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I mean I didn’t expect it to live up to ads or anything but just walking down the strip at night so many people seemed “ugly”. I just figured it would be a place that attracts people who like to take care of themselves and go out and party and have top notch hygiene and workout a lot. Maybe it would be different at EDC or any big music festival out there
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 04:59 PM
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My friends and I have been planning Nashville and Montreal trips. I’m so excited for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 04:23 PM
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My boss literally brought up the exact same time to go for people watching when I told him I was taking time off to visit Vegas. He is an older engineer about 3ish times my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 04:10 PM
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I’m from Boston and went out to Las Vegas for the long weekend. I was really surprised by the lack of attractive people I saw there. Maybe it was the time of year or something but I always pictured Vegas would be full of wealthy and attractive people. I stayed in one of the nicer casinos on the strip and everyone was pretty below average to average looking. I feel like I see better looking people in nicer areas of Downtown Boston, or when I go to NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 03:55 PM
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I think there is a difference in the “guy being the taller than the girl” expectation. And the “guy being objectively tall for a guy” expectation. I’m also 5’6 so right here with u bro 💪🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:06 PM
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Ya that’s my point. Cooking for a family shouldn’t be a primary role. It should be manageable on top of a career with things like slow cookers and meal prep
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 01:35 PM
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Just used to being the assumed smartest or most professionally high achieving one in any social interaction maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:14 PM
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Ya idk maybe also how young I am (23) but I don’t see being a homemaker to be attractive at all. I’d be way more attracted to someone confident in their career and high achieving and setting professional goals. I’d rather we both make enough to just hire someone to do the cooking and caring for kids for the most part. Or honestly even one of our parents watch the kids after school while we both have careers. And not to sound snobbish but in terms of cleaning: maids are pretty affordable if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:08 PM
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If I’m being really introspective I think part of the turnoff is it makes me think they are using it as compensation for SMV and it makes me think they will get fat once in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 05:17 PM
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I’ve had girls hint at how much they like to cook and other shit they call “wifey material”. To me it’s a huge turnoff and reeks of “pick-me”ish. I’d way rather date a girl who is focused on their career than someone who plans to be a housewife. Yesterday at work had a meeting with a younger women with her PhD in chemical engineering. She was also fairly attractive and tbh it was initially somewhat intimidating. I’d see stuff like that as waaaaay more of a boost than knowing how to use a crock p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 01:10 PM
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When i started reading this I totally assumed a guy and 98lbs 20%bf thought “jesus christ” but for a women ya that’s actually really fit. And as a guy i feel like people push you to eat more. My grandmother is a first gen American and always is pushing food on me. There is the gendered stuff when it comes to drinking: sometimes I get looks for ordering tequilla sodas, and even bartenders have made jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 02:35 PM
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I mean ya. I think like margot robbie is very attractive but I’m not rejecting every girl in the hopes of one day having my moment for margot robbie. From the other end of the perspective I’ve slept with girls and had FWBs that I knew that I probably could be doing better than (in a SMV sense) but still enjoyed my time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:56 PM
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I have a thick neck, very broad shoulders and big natural frame in upper body, but my wrists are actually not that thick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 12:45 AM
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I'm proud of the work I put in and if someone is generally curious will go into it. I just think it's tacky to get into it with most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 07:59 PM
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I remember learning about how Hugh Jackman prepared and dehydrated himself for shirtless scenes in Wolverine, wild stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 07:29 PM
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I bulk/cut. Eat a super strict schedule (timing and content). I don't juice but got genetically lucky in terms of muscularity genetics and can naturally keep a lot. My close friends and family are aware of the strict dieting and 2+ hours spent daily in the gym 6 times a week and various supplements. But outside of them (acquaintances, coworkers, ect.), I do totally play down the work needed and that I put into it. I'll act surprised when someone notices muscularity and if I feel like a comment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 07:23 PM
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Height thing is BS. Some girls buy into but most don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 11:18 PM
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What is it about not paying attention or being tolerant that makes guys more attractive. I’ve always noticed that ignoring a FWB for a few days had them dying to hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:43 PM
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I had success with tinder in college. I once got a threesome (two girls and me) by seeing if two different matches would be into it. Since I graduated it’s pretty meh and I’ve stopped using it. I think im fairly average looking, maybe a little extra masculine face. I’m 5’6”. I was jacked and shredded in college (gym 2+hours/day 6 days a week, and no carbs that don’t contain alcohol). But never had shirtless photos on dating apps (seemed tacky)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:30 PM
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I work in an engineering group and the floor of my office used to just be my group of 3 guys. We never decorated. A few weeks ago another group of like 3 moved next to us, 2 girls one guy (not sure the type of work they do tbh). When I came into work today the office all around was covered in halloween decorations, like this was clearly hours of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 12:55 PM
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So imagine being the one fiending for a fix of heroin, addicted and whose entire world is built around it. Everything they’ve done to this point was to score the best fix they could, and it consumes most of their thought. They never are able to get that fix yet obsessively crave nonetheless. And they are watching someone who enjoys doing the occasional hit, but is by no means controlled by it, be able to shoot up whenever they want. It’s not a healthy dynamic and I mean it’s easy to see how it b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:09 PM
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I generally agree with this. Wanted to add: If you saw the world through the eyes of someone with 600+ng/dL of testosterone pumping through them at all times things would be very different. Oscar Wilde was onto something when he said “Everything (at least for cis-heterosexual men) is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 06:59 PM
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Nah why would I? I like doing occasionally fasts though for when I’m trying to cut weight and find that clears my head
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 05:16 PM
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I feel like in general we have a “lower floor” and can end up way worse off than an unsuccessful women and not get as much help. But i also think we have a “higher ceiling” and can do more if we get a little lucky and do things right. I feel like guys have better friends. We don’t have periods, we don’t have to carry babies, we don’t have a “wall”, we feel safer in public spaces, when I go to bars And clubs im not worried about being drugged, I was always encouraged to pursue a high paying caree…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 01:16 PM
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If I was a women I would 100% ride the cc then settle down around late 20s-early 30s. I think overall being a man is the better life but that is one area they have it better and I’d be damned if I wasn’t gonna take advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 12:58 PM
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What is your idea of a “really built guy”? I personally don’t think anyone is going to hit the gym and accidentally get “too big” and go beyond what women find attractive. To get to that level takes it being a full time job and more than most can afford in extraneous hormones
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 12:51 PM
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She is that much older than him? Kinda its own topic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 12:46 PM
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Well for one I never interacted with them. Secondly I was pretty heavily pushed in education and went to private schools and from a young age saw anything manual labor as someone who didn’t succeed academically. I had one uncle that was blue collar and tbh he always seemed a little thick skulled to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 12:34 PM
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You seem to be referring to the problems of “toxic masculinity”. Check out r/MensLib
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 12:22 PM
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Private school and/or college dealers make bank. One kid at my high school got busted when he went and bought himself a mustang in all cash. In college most dealers smoked you up if you were friendly with them because they made so much. Then things like acid had huge markups and huge demand in a college
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 12:16 PM
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i would
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:05 PM
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I’m a male here and would rather no draft and no wars. Who is drafted into wars however serves as a historical example of something shitty men got stuck with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:06 PM
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Then what’s an “incel”? I always thought it was “involuntary celibate” who was sexually frustrated to the point of hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:41 PM
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Rag on black women and/or indian men. The epitome of PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:17 PM
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Im a 23M process engineer at a large biotech company. I go to the gym most days after work and spend weekends out with my friends. Most of my older male coworkers were normal and married. I’ve met very few incels outside of college
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 12:53 PM
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I guess im usually in niche parts of reddit cause the past week or so here has been most racist content i’ve come across
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:55 PM
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This sub seems to have gotten exponentially more racist past week or so
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:54 PM
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Ya this sub is super racist, kinda gross at times
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:51 PM
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Beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:50 PM
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“Deplorable” Im not upperclass by income technically (i make much less than $400,000/yr and am my own household which I believe would be the cutoff). But I’ve gone to private school all my life, make a lot for a 23M who lives on his own, most of my friends are upperclass (golf tournaments, tennis leagues, sailing, vacation homes, one friend’s dad hosts a tennis league out of his private court at their house). So I grew up working class but was always surrounded by a lot of really wealthy people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:16 PM
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That would be interesting. Instead of a number scale ratings would be “brad, beta buxs, chad, stacey, becky, ect”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:26 PM
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There are a few subreddits for it. r/truerateme & r/rateme & r/amiugly that is them in order of how harsh. Trurate me follows model standards and is anglo centeic. Amiugly is a confidence boost
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:10 PM
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As a 23 white man with a lot of white male friends: i’ve heard peers say pretty openly they find black women less attractive. If I could analyze my tinder swipe data I wouldn’t be surprised if I swiped left more frequently on black women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:11 PM
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“Scientifically neutral” This is pure red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:57 PM
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This question really invites some open racism... I think race certainly influences our perception and imo people have different preferences for different races/ethnicities. Asian/Indian men are frequently put down on this subreddit. I think studies also show black women struggle more than women of other races on dating apps. I’d bet that the difference in SMV vs RMV is that people are much more willing to step outside of their “preferences” for SMV than for RMV
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:50 PM
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I’ve come across this debate various places online and have never seen hispanic ranked 1 for men. For women black was always ranked last. And for men asian then specifically indian always last
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:47 PM
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we do it with a lot of schools
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:54 PM
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Ya. Not gorgeous but we all would have if we were not with the others and a lil drunker
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 02:26 PM
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Went out with a couple of my guy friends (2 23M bros) last night. An old friend (23M) wanted to reconnect so he came with us and brought his roommates. One was a girl and made it clear she was into me pretty early into the night. At the end of the night we all went back to my apartment and she was heavily hinting at staying and started even talking about getting laid. I was on the fence on her and ended up just ignoring it all. Eventually my old friend called them all an uber and they left. My 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 12:44 PM
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I went to school with a guy who was the like exact definition of Twink. Pretty sure he even had some plastic surgery to optimize the look.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 10:04 PM
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I don't mean to disparage the variations at all just trying to understand. So is it like different sexualities almost more so than a specific fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 07:22 PM
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are those not a specific fetish? Or do gay men typically have very different ideas of an attractive man? As a straight man, I feel like all straight guys kinda have a very similar idea of an attractive woman and variations are just fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 07:11 PM
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What are two good examples then of like the archetypal of what the average gay man finds attractive and the archetype of what women find attractive. ignoring everything but physical looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:55 PM
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Like I’m kinda thinking the Rock vs. Ryan Reynolds as examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:52 PM
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Again glad you got out of what sounds like an incredibly toxic situation. Not to make light of it but I did smirk when you had the girl’s rating out to thousandths decimal place. Will do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:47 PM
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What is the difference between what gay men find attractive in a man and what straight women find attractive? I have seen on various places on reddit mentioning that the giant muscles and very lean type is way better at attracting gay men than it is heterosexual women. Any idea about that and if true why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:35 PM
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If a women takes testosterone (to approach healthy male levels) her clit will grow as the body wants to start making a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:33 PM
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Glad you got out of that toxic relationship. And glad it ended up making things exponentially better. Sometimes no one else is looking out for you so you gotta make sure you do it yourself. It’s not our responsibility to self-sacrifice to the point of self-harm for the sake of others. You can only help others if you are in a good place yourself. I’m 23 and have a good friend from college that we graduated together and hang out a lot. He has two “friends” from his hometown that are super toxic. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:16 PM
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I mean your proposed solution to me sounds more like addressing problems of unchecked capitalism and “free” markets. I agree with that. I don’t take issue until a regulatory body has direct influence on what is portrayed in media. That is exactly the controversy right now with China and NBA/Blizzard/Disney. And totally I want to help share what I know with people who want to learn and try to challenge people when appropriate while also learning more myself and continually challenging my own beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:54 PM
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I’m not selfish I just can’t control other people and don’t think it’s my responsibility or right to regulate what media they can consume as adults. I’m american and that’s part of our free speech here. I think eventually human curiosity and quest for truth prevails. Especially with ever increasing access to information. Ya I see people brainwashed by sophistry all the time. I have a grandmother who was mentally held captive by Roger Ails. But then what’s the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:43 PM
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It influences children and uneducated adults. I think once you are an adult you are responsible for being a critically thinking individual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:38 PM
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While the dudes who played Fortnite had no problem with women. Kids who set up SuperSmashbros in the common areas were effectively setting up a pussy forcefield. But I feel like they didn’t care, didn’t obsess over it, and were happy as they were. And in general I disagree a bit with your point. Its a classic redpill argument that pop culture pushes the “bluepill”. Movies aren’t meant to depict reality and people should know that. There are also movies that promote the “red pill” lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:20 PM
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Within these classifications: Why would a self-aware omega not become a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:00 PM
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When I was in college most guys liked video games. I feel like the “Chads” played tons of FIFA and fortnite and probably more hours/week playing video games than the nerds. I lived in the athlete housing at a D1 school and all the dudes gamed a bunch. I was a chemical engineer major and my nerdy classmates swore off video games. I got into weightlifting and bodybuilding by college so was at the university gym a lot. The dudes who played pickup basketball there all the time were def not having as…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 01:51 PM
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Its like a class signal. And being educated affects worldview and would like someone with an equally informed worldview.’ I agree not a dealbreaker but it is a big plus. You sound like you have a boomer’s view of college
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 02:31 PM
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Both parents were born here and there parents (my grandparents) as well. Great greadparents on all sides were the immigrants. I’m from Boston idk if u’ve seen any movies featuring boston white trash. My fav potrayl is Bojack Horseman’s when Diane comes home even tho its animated
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:52 PM
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Parents were working class: worked 2 jobs 60+ hour weeks. But for HS I got academic scholarship to go to a private school. Then for college I was first to go away for 4 years. Now I work as an engineer in a tech heavy industry and make more than my parents ever did. But my siblings went community college while working route I was thinking of the bubble as like all my friends and peers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:46 PM
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How much of a bubble am I in as a 23M where everyone I interact with has at least a 4 year degree and like half my friends are in grad school? And i’m a guy but would expect my partner to have a bachelors degree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:18 PM
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23M and very much. I find intelligence to be better for both LTR and STR/ONS. I could have a ONS with someone I thought was really dumb but couldn't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:06 PM
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23M and I speak for myself and my male friends with a resounding confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 01:28 PM
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It fades. I don’t remember a time when I saw my parents and thought they loved each other until the very end when my dad was dying. They only stayed married because it was convenient, thought it would be better for siblings and I, and would have been expensive to divorce (need new apartment for one, another health insurance plan, new set of bills ect). My parents slept in separate rooms for as long as I could remember. We (siblings and I) spent time with them separately; even vacations we usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 06:49 PM
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Do you think white heterosexual men of Philadelphia find that their height matters in the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:28 PM
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So are you saying that the discussion of height preference/requirements in dating is really about women not wanting to date Indians and not an obstacle for short men of other races?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:05 PM
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I see this often on dating apps like tinder. A lot of women I see list an absurd height and follow it with “if that even matters” as a way to essentially signal they don’t care (or if we want to be cynical: are willing to look past) It’s slowly becoming more prevalent than female profiles around me listing: “5’11 and we’re friends”, “shorties need not apply” ect
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:01 PM
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Because height is so commnly regarded as a dating requirement some women do. I have seen profiles where women list a ridiculous height and follow it with “if that even matters”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 04:59 PM
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Idk. Maybe they are approached less frequently as a result of their height and so more likely to use an app?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 04:58 PM
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I agree but to be fair to OP: height is among the more talked about attributes in dating preferences/requirements. It is common place to list on tinder, suggested on bumble, and required on hinge
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 04:57 PM
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5 in 20s. Im a 23M and to me that seems harsh. For me it depends on the circumstances tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 04:53 PM
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Anyone seen this tweet: https://twitter.com/sarahgraceemily/status/1180679202858819584?s=12 ? She seems to be getting tons of hate. What do you think? IMO I respect that she put herself out there a bit and tried to kinda (but asked ppl on the internet to do it for her) initiate to get what wanted. Race seems to be big at play in the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 02:33 PM
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Male and absolutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 01:04 PM
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Im a 23M educated (BS, plan MS/MBA in 5ish years) , upper income, american. I feel like 25 is still very young. Tbh I don’t think I want to plan on really even starting to seriously settle down until like 27, and at that age a 25-27F would seem ideal. I feel like you should be fine and are overthinking it. Just join clubs and social groups where you will get a chance to interact with people of similar interests
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 01:01 PM
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What is the correct response when a girl asks “So what are you looking for” after a date? Like I genuinely wouldn’t know if I wanted a relationship after a single date. I’m not trying to “dangle the carrot” of a potential relationship so I can have sex in the interim. I just genuinely don’t know what I want out of “this” yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:11 PM
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I feel like I’ve heard that before. Anyone have ideas where that comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 12:42 PM
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In men 17% isn’t low bf%. Sub 10 is when you get low as a guy. A pro bodybuilder will be 2ish on stage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 12:39 PM
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This is first i’ve heard of veins in arms. I always assumed us guys just liked that for ourselves as a sign of muscular forearms and low bf% and showing off to other dudes who lift
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 12:38 PM
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23M. I find that women 1-2 years younger than me (so 21-22) are generally easier especially if I’m higher SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:17 PM
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I’m a 23M and when I’ve heard it it’s felt like not an insult but not a compliment either. Kinda just meant a guy who could get laid and get around but said in a way that wasn’t complimenting this behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:31 PM
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Then no one will “try”. 90% of people who go to the gym stop. 90% of cosmetic sales go away. Marketing industry would be completely uprooted. The economy slows as men are longer as motivated to acquire material wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:17 PM
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That’s my understanding as well. What in my previous post says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:56 PM
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and my dumb ass did engineering. Im telling my younger bro he should really study nursing and not just for that like it actually fits him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 12:23 AM
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made me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 12:22 AM
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Wyd when you’re casually talking to someone and have just lost all physical attraction since starting taking. My instinct says ghost but I’d feel a little bad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 02:15 PM
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What I feel for in women: I feel bad that for women their outcome in life and life satisfaction seems a lot more tied to their physical appearance and the “bar” for how much effort and money should be spent on things to maximize it seems a lot higher Dressing seems more complicated for women. Way more to figure out it seems with an outfit and more expensive Being physically weaker/smaller and more vulnerable in public places would be scary (I would be way to scared to meet someone off of OLD as …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:32 PM
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It takes a lot of skill to overcome weight/strength gaps. Sure a black belt BJJ would probably have no problem with an untrained person twice as strong. But if the skill gap isn’t as wide then strength and weight matter a lot which is why the sports separate for weight
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:27 PM
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...so you think all girls should have a type that is specific to one race?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:40 AM
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I had to reread that part too. I was nodding along and then got there and thought I misread something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:39 AM
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ya that a pretty reasonable view but attraction isnt rational or fair
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:31 AM
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Depends on if you read “male attraction” as what men find or attractive or what women find attractive in men. I obvi meant the later
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:53 PM
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Knowing you sleeping with someone who gets around or dudes who do steroids
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:59 PM
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I had a FWB in college that made it clear I was the most muscular guy she had ever been with and it made me feel pretty good. I think I was a “gateway” for her though because she went on to also get with the school’s biggest roid moster (he ended up getting expelled for roid rage). Dude looked totally nonhuman. I thought it was somewhat cool to be his eskimo Bro. She told me tho that seeing all injection marks on his ass was a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:51 PM
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Prob a better example than the niche bodybuilders I used
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:07 PM
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That would suggest male attraction is more social and female pure physical relative to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:07 PM
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by “rumor trade”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 07:06 PM
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Admire work done on one’s body and aspire to achieve a certain look. It def becomes unhealthy and body-dysmorphic but 🤷🏻‍♂️. The bodybuilding subreddit daily discussion is always full of jokes about how being into bodybuilding means we are at least somewhat gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:36 PM
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Wow interesting idea with a male AF/BB equivalent. I’ve noticed I like to hook up with the girls that have the tattoo, piercings, non-natural hair look. But I would never have a relationship with that kind of girl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:32 PM
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Does it apply the same way to women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:07 PM
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Gotcha I see the distinction now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:05 PM
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Chris Bumstead is currently the reigning men’s classic physique champ at the Olympia. Steve Cook is a gymshark model and big name it the fitness community. He will be more of a household name probably now that he has signed on to be a coach on the biggest loser
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:04 PM
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Refusing to date women who have dated losers makes me think you do factor in their previous partner’s SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:02 PM
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This girl I’ve been talking to mentioned finding post malone attractive. I assumed it was like a “meme”, but she insisted she found him attractive. What the hell is going on with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 04:45 PM
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As a guy I don’t care which women find more attractive I know which side of that work structure I want to be on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 02:01 PM
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What kind of bf% is shredded. A shredded natural guy who loves to lift and a shredded guy on the Olympia stage look like different species
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 06:36 PM
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People outside of athletes and dudes who have been seriously lifting for at least a year are oblivious to natural limits. I’ve heard people ask about IFBB pros and if they were natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 06:35 PM
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5’6 guy here and ya I spend 2 hours a day in the gym and practice intermittent fasting and track every calorie for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 06:28 PM
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I’d assume more women are overweight than men given that if you stop taking care of yourself women will gain more weight in fat more quickly. But I see the study breaks down different groups of bf% for defining overweight/obese/ect in men vs women which is obviously needed as women naturally will have higher fat %s but how do they decide on those thresholds?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:55 PM
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Is suicide on the rise?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:51 PM
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Nah but I thought a good build in pec would support the boobs more tightly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:02 AM
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OPP?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 07:17 PM
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I mean I personally don’t see group fitness classes as effective for much of anything other than peer accountability to incentivize going and a money maker for the gym that charges extra for these classes. Maybe like spin is good cardio but a lot of thoose classes seem to be swinging kettle bells and doing steps while holding dumbbells
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 06:02 PM
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The girls ik who defined “too big” were usually referencing pictures of girls on anavar. Im 23 and wonder if girls my age also want more muscle than other generations. Or maybe because I like to lift also know women with skewed goals from the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:49 PM
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I have never been abroad long enough to say. But I have two friends who experienced this. One basically a really average looking dude who saved a bunch on hotels by using tinder as girls found him “exotic”. The other is Vietnamese but 6ft 2in. When he goes to see his family there he towers over everyone for miles
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:38 PM
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What do you think has changed in the bodies of men targeted to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:26 PM
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This would a whole different discussion but kinda curious: Do you think what is in style for one gender affects what the other gender finds attractive in them? In other words would the influence Jenner has make young men also more interested in partners with bigger booties
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:15 PM
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Even if some women enjoyed it I would imagine that a gym with constant leering would make many women uncomfortable in thoose areas. Also the power dynamic makes it different when a guy is leering a girl to vice-versa
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:12 PM
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I’ve never been into it so don’t know much about it. My association with yoga was always improved flexibility but I can see core strength and endurance too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:09 PM
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I assume men and women share the goal of wanting to loose excess body fat. This is really more about diet than the gym. Once at a healthy body fat percentage I think women would want to develop a curvy figure and men would Want to develop a V taper and big arms. This should put both groups in the weight room.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:08 PM
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Ok that makes sense. I’m 23 and I think girls my age are more interested in a larger bootie than older women probably are. But does yoga really do anything to affect the way your body looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:05 PM
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I don’t think the segregation I see in the gym aligns with the difference in fitness goals
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:04 PM
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I don’t think it is an organized “conspiracy”, but I think there are underlying forces pushing men and women to different areas that we have been socialized for and self perpetuate
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:57 PM
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If the goal is purely to lower total body fat that is a terrible plan. But I would assume most women not only want to lose body fat but also develop a curvy figure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:55 PM
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Im going to disagree that squat and deadlifts can be effectively replaced in terms of glute and quad hypertrophy with a high rep cardio type exercise. Then beyond that keeping fat low (lean) will come from like 95% diet and a little cardio, but for just the energy balance the type of cardio doesn’t really matter
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:49 PM
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Do men and women seem to use the equipment similarly at your gym? And if your goal is to maintain a toned curvy figure I would think deadlifts and squats would be the cornerstone of a workout regiment. Ik some girls who did train this way but in general the use of that equipment does not seem to coincide with the amount of women and men in the gym at a given time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:47 PM
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You convinced me to look into it further and stronger pec muscles won’t lift the breast as much as I assumed. But I still would think deadlift and squats would help develop a curvy figure no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:39 PM
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A manager at my gym is a fairly short women and she can squat more than me I think. There are def exceptions I just mean in general
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:33 PM
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I don’t mean absolute “segregation”, i mean more the underlying force that pushes men and women to different areas of the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:14 PM
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I think squats and deadlifts can’t be replaced if the fitness goal is to develop a curvy figure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:13 PM
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What do you think women’s fitness goals generally are when going to a gym? My assumption to this point has been to loose weight if heavy and then to tone up and develop a curvy figure beyond that. Similarly for men I would sum up the average goals as loose weight to a healthy BMI. Then begin growing the upper body.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:12 PM
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Do you regularly go to a gym? If so do you not feel some pressure that pushes men versus women to different areas of the gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:10 PM
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I was thinking of 2 in particular. One was a friend of a friend and I knew he was openly gay. The other was dating my friend’s cousin. In general though it was flamboyant men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:09 PM
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If the popular notion on weight lifting’s affect on women us updated would you expect a change in gyms
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:08 PM
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Ok not absolute “segregation” but some underlying force that pushes groups in different places based on this trait
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:07 PM
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In college would walk by the fitness classes and it was always women. The only guys I ever know who signed up were openly gay. I had some female friends insist a few times I do spin with them but I always felt that pressure that it was a “no straight guy zone”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:05 PM
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I think the way men and women use the gym isn’t tied to fitness goals as much as this self-policing we do about where we go by gender. If I was a women I think I would bench for perky breasts, and squat and deadlift for a curvy bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:02 PM
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Thats my question. Why do we self-police where we go in gyms this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:00 PM
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Do you mean gym rat? And that is fair if I break down men into those groups I see that at my gym
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:56 PM
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I think men do like bonding at the gym. I have conservations with the other regulars at my gym. We’ll share things we’ve learned ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:55 PM
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For women to get really muscular to the level of like women on fitness magazines they would need anavar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:54 PM
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What does this mean
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:51 PM
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Im sure the leering happens at some gyms but mine seems fairly polite but we still have that segregation And why wouldn’t men want to bond and get to know other people at their gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:51 PM
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I’m a man who goes to the gym and I don’t think I intimidate women who try to come use free weights. If anything I’ll position myself so they don’t feel like I’m checking them out in the mirror or judging form. I think most guys at my gym do the same and the gym still has this clear divide
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:39 PM
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Imo most men want to get larger upperbodies and women want to be trim and tone. Thats going to be more about hormonal profile than exercise routine. Women who deadlift and squat are going to really tone their glutes. Men might enjoy group classes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:34 PM
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Ya why is the rack “man land”? Why are group classes “women land”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:32 PM
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if they wanted a hookup maybe a femcell has it easier but i think once you factor in relationship they are at the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 01:13 AM
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a trufemcel is only getting attention from super desperate guys who just really need to get off, and they will never hear from a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 12:57 AM
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i dont think anyone lives up to their absolute ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 12:49 AM
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it is way more than 50% about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 12:45 AM
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I think men might go off physical looks more than women but I don't think we all are 100% about physical and nothing else matters to us. If a girl is dancing and having fun at a bar she is more attractive. If she is confident and talks like it I find that more attractive. too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 12:43 AM
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if you lean forward while doing rear delts it will target them more and if you sit forward in it will target traps more. To grow you need the calories, protein, sleep, the hormonal profile, and the training volume. Make sure you get sufficient volume in with your workouts. I'd try not to drink or smoke too much. Take a men's multivitamin that has zinc in it. creatine is a good supplement too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 12:38 AM
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I don’t know what a pick me looks like in a man but I remember talking to girl once and started to feel like she was doing it and it was off putting: she was bragging about like being able to cook and how “most girls now can’t”. Like cool but I’m 23 so I’m not looking for a wife just someone to stick my dick in. So maybe bragging about being well-positioned to support a family is the male “pick me”? Is it selling LTR qualities and trying to cover up for lacking STR attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 07:36 PM
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Sexual strategy for one long term relationship will be a whole different marketplace than the casual sex realm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 01:41 AM
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If you’re saving sex for marriage then TRP or any sexual strategy makes no sense. But that aside guys are fine getting off with hoes so aren’t as concerned with how less sexually promiscuous women view them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 10:40 PM
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Im going to stick with heterosexual cisgendered boys/men. I think first is the mixed messages young men get about sex and consent. Across the board having sex is told to them to be positive but only differs as to whether its just portrayed as a more neutral “healthy growing up” or a more toxic “conquest needed to be a man”, but regardless they are told it is important and then their body starts craving it and it becomes what drives them. (“Everything is about sex. Except for sex, sex is about po…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 06:37 PM
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Yes I would love too but he never approaches me no matter how obvious I make things
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 05:21 PM
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Like any office work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 01:33 PM
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Any other professions come to mind you associate as unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 01:30 PM
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Does someone’s profession play a large role in your attraction to them generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 01:27 PM
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A bad experience with an engineer? Or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 01:23 PM
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Water weight fluctuations. That isn’t 3kg of body fat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 12:47 PM
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If its full of tons of other fit people ya i will def be self conscious and constantly compare myself but I’m going. I don’t work out just for my health
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 01:13 PM
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For dating the 1/2my age + 7 rule seems pretty accurate of a model. For oldest I cant think of any accurate model like lowest but roughly 4 years older than me right now (im 23) and that will widen as I get older The range for “would bang” is a lot more open than “would date”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 01:07 PM
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1/2 your age + 7
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 01:03 PM
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Never heard this term before but to me it just reads like a guy good looking or charismatic enough to be a successful “nice guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 12:57 PM
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Have been for like a decade now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:40 AM
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The one buy me actually enforces the rules. I used to go sometimes in HS when they still had the barbell equipment but they would warn us for deadlifts, and I saw them use the “lunk alarm”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:26 AM
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The height related genes in the articles u link are “height related” only because they are “sex related”. Anti-aromatization means preventing the creation of estrogen from testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 06:43 PM
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Your original conclusion that men wouldn’t select for tall women because women don’t have the influence on the height of their sons is the problem. Yes the height of the children will be most determined by the sex of the children which is from the father’s half of the genetic material. But the height of his sons is no more determined by his height than his partner’s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 06:38 PM
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The influence of the father being stronger is that the father determines sex. Sex is then what plays a massive role on height and is why most brothers are taller than their sisters. Beyond that there is no complete map of which genes are linked to height, they are spread all over. Here is a summary of some
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 06:25 PM
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Its not just an “oversimplification” it’s fundamentally flawed. The articles you link are both about height difference in men vs women. Not about whether the trait is from father or mother beyond the fact that the father’s 23rd is what determines sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 06:18 PM
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Height is not a single chromosome on 23rd pair trait
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 06:10 PM
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I’ve seen these and find them very funny. If you like that humor check out Casually Explained
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 03:02 PM
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I understand planet fitness’ buisness model of catering to people who are otherwise intimidated of the gym but when it would be the closest cheapest gym otherwise its kinda infuriating. The PF near me removed all of their olympic barbell equipment, banned tank tops and gallon water jugs and kick people out for deadlifts. Also they have pizza days which is counterproductive when you target audience is people who are just their for weight loss and think 20 mins on an elliptical 3 times a week will…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 02:52 PM
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Thinking a consensual BJ is predatory is something unusual you internalized. That is far from the cultural norm
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 02:47 PM
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Imo it makes the women a no-go for a LTR but I’d still try to smash
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 02:12 PM
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Art school sounds like a whole different beast. How do you really grade in art school? Like I'd imagine you want to get the technical abilities down but like how do you gauge creativity beyond that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 01:13 PM
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I think people are too quick to write off the the humanities as "easy", but I think you are in a minority if you found an engineering program to be relatively easier. On the topic of exams. I usually found that past freshman year most engineering exams in my program were essentially 2-3 hours and just 3-5 problems that would take forever to solve. Once we got into Junior year and things like seperations and the second part of thermo I had a few exams were no one in the class finished in time. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 12:47 PM
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I love going to the gym. When I cut for the summer my mom or sister will sometimes tell me I’m overdoing it but I think that stems partly from them not wanting to lose weight themselves. I had a female friend/classmate in college whose boyfriend started lifting and it worried her. She was right and he left her soon after. I think its fine but I think there comes legitimate concern when people get to the point of using SARMs and gear that will have real damage later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 10:50 AM
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I think the 20% depends on the woman. Some know they need to settle
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 10:40 AM
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I had a conversation about this one day with a professor my senior year. Its kinda like the sort of people that a program like that attracts are overwhelmingly people who are not only intelligent but also people who pride themselves on that trait and use it as a major piece of what defines them. They see the program as a challenge that helps prove that about them. This motivation being so tied to your identity and ego pushes you through some of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 03:07 AM
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Depends a lot on what type and the industry. I went to a top chemical engineering program and did a minor in biochemistry. I would say college was very stressful and most people from the freshman class didn’t make it to senior year. By our senior year I would say I was surrounded by some of the most intelligent people I have ever interacted with (my best friend in the major was on the fringe of being professional chessplayer at 20 just as a hobby, he was actually at the point of making good mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 12:17 AM
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23M. I work as an engineer. I would love to have a rich significant other (wife in my case). No matter how much my wife makes I would still want to work. I would get bored otherwise. That said I’d consider doing something more rewarding but for less pay like teaching HS science if I married rich enough to the point of money not mattering. Or if I stayed in industry I wouldn’t be as able to tolerate a 5 day - 40 hour work week
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 05:49 PM
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I was with a very hot girl at a concert once and the “challenging” got to the point of me being physically threatened/ drunk dudes trying to fight me. Like wtf? Also the girl seemed to enjoy that, and I got the vibe she wanted me to like get in a fight over her (her friend basically said this afterwards to me too)- so never talked to her again
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 01:40 PM
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Depending on how the breakup was that puts you at like 7.5-9 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 01:38 PM
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Your girlfriend called you a “7-8”. If you’re dating the answer needs to be “11/10” and if the beg for honesty you say “9/10” regardless of how they look
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 01:14 PM
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Lol ik. I’ve heard this from a handful of my asian male friends (I’m an engineer so have made a few).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 06:01 PM
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White man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 06:00 PM
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I’ve heard it as trends across the American population. Obviously doesn’t apply in every case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 05:50 PM
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What is the deal with race in online dating? I often have heard it’s harder for black women and asian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 05:34 PM
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Good luck on the exam. And ya I def agree that high intelligence prob delays the age at which sex starts. But i’d be curious to see the affect on sexual partners past that. The first part also coincides with what I saw in college and among college friends
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 06:37 PM
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These seem to be about teenage and unprotected sex. I’ll agree that the far intelligent end of the spectrum explores their sexuality later than the middle of the spectrum (as mentioned in the 3rd article). But that doesn’t necessarily mean less sexual activity in adulthood. And I agree with you assumptions is the last comment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 06:24 PM
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I haven’t before but will next bulk. It only works if you have a strong appetite to begin with as IF will lower appetite on top of eating window. I prefer to just have a smallish window for carbs/fats but anything like 80+% protein i’ll have outside the window when I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:29 PM
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I would say I’ve also never seen someone there. What is the standard deviation supposed to be on that distribution/is it supposed to be a normal distribution?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:25 PM
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Where does stereotypical “Chad” fall on the intelligence spectrum? I’m seeing a range
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:19 PM
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Do you have any evidence or links discussing this? Is it not just stereotyping men who do well academically?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:16 PM
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Just wanted to emphasize the tense of the “be”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:01 PM
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“Become” someone else. It takes work and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 12:59 PM
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I (23M) have had my ass grabbed a handful of times at bars. I had an older women who was in a senior position hit on me at work. These are things I would consider sexual “harass-y” if the gender was reversed. I think its not as bad though because of the power dynamic makes it less threatening when its a women doing it to man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 12:53 PM
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When you say “intelligent enough to find guys with a good mix of alpha and beta qualities” it reads to me like you are implying they are aware or pseudo-aware of the AF/BB strategy and are trying to maximize their LTR knowing what they know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 12:45 PM
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No one would be thats stupid or the stupidity was there but not the smart phone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 11:08 AM
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Can you elaborate on the various stereotypes you see?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 06:45 PM
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Havent been on the site since MeToo so makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:48 PM
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In that case ya I can’t imagine a romantic interest for a female teacher, just sexual. Do they have to come in a certain order-I feel like sexual always happens first and then and only then romantic can develop
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:38 PM
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I dont understand what you mean with the “bundles” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:32 PM
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Rate my professor.com has a spot for the hotness of the professor
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:28 PM
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I went to an all male High school. I promise you that every student had a teacher they had a crush on. One kid in my class was expelled for taking an up skirt of a teacher, and anyone who had been texted the photo was suspended. The same incident happened with a different class, different teacher two years after I graduated. I went to a Co-Ed middle school but I remember that most of the guys in my class crushed hard on two female teachers at the school and would talk about it to each other open…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:24 PM
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In some I can think of the shyness maybe like a dominant trait and in other’s maybe some social awkwardness. But what does that have to do with being in STEM? And ya when I think back to college and seeing female classmates at the bar they never did much eye contact flirting, definitely more verbal than other girls, but while maybe not “inviting” as much approach they often could have better conversations when you did
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:03 PM
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Thats v similar imo with guys and taking home a heavy girl when around their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:29 PM
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"intermittent fasting". Usually means a 16 hour fast window and 8 hour eating window in a given day when all calories are consumed in a smaller window. (Some do days of fasting too). I do it when cutting. It also has other reported health benefits but I'm not here to spread diet activism. But I recommend looking into it!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 06:45 PM
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intermittingly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 06:43 PM
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I think I personally find it to be a plus too but the women I work/studied with don’t seem to have that experience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 05:45 PM
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Does being in STEM make women less attractive to most guys? I (23M) am in STEM and am aware it is male dominated. In college I was a chemical engineering major and while that is engineering we had more women in it than other engineering majors. I had a handful of female classmates that were fairly attractive by conventional physical standards. A few ended up dating but it seemed like they all dated well below their league. I see coworkers now and feel like my female coworkers do the same. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 04:00 PM
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You got this!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 03:50 PM
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Depends how heavy on top of other things. I dont have like a BMI or body fat% hardline cutoff it just starts to become a negative past a certain point to me. There are “heavy” girls that I find attractive, there are heavy girls I don’t find attractive that maybe I would if they lost weight, and there are heavy girls that I probably wouldn’t find attractive regardless. Depending on how “horny” and/or drunk I am then ya my threshold for overall attractiveness goes down. I’d also say there are mult…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 03:14 PM
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Learned something new today! (Looking into this more now)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:51 PM
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Caffeine is the world’s favorite appetite suppressant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:47 PM
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When you cut carbs you will crave them quickly but that craving will fade. Things start to taste naturally sweeter and your hunger levels become more stable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:43 PM
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“A man over 6’” or a man who seems “tall”? Do we really have anything to do with the 6’ or is that just a round number close to splitting 80/20% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:56 PM
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My height is never guessed accurately expect occasionally by other short guys. I’m 5’6” but most people start the guess at 5’8”. I usually assumed ppl were being nice but I think people aren’t actually good at gauging pure height and use cues like arms and shoulders too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:53 PM
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Honestly maybe it’s because I like going to the gym so much but I find that low anavar levels make fit girls often a little hotter (“varbies”)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:40 PM
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I’ve found that unless someone is like a professional bodybuilder women are oblivious to how many men are on extra hormones for their aesthetic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:39 PM
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I think race plays a role and could be a whole discussion on its own. But I’m not sure if I think height becomes a negative in black men. I think a 5’6” black guy probably would have a tougher time with most women than a 5’6” white guy. I think black men are fetishized but they are usually the taller ones that are also more muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:35 PM
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I don’t think he is suggesting they are, but showing that muscularity is independent of height
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:31 PM
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your build is influenced by genetics and that includes muscularity. I think muscle is more correlated to testosterone levels than height. Also gym time demonstrates work ethic and a pride in appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:53 AM
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This is going to sound really shitty: I'm not super picky with weight on dating apps if I was just looking for casual and trying to get head. But if out then my friends are with me and see who I'm talking to and I feel pressured away from approaching a heavier girl because of the look.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:51 AM
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That would be the case if the following was true: Height matters only in the hardline rule of the man must be a few inches taller Height plays no role on the attractiveness of an individual so long as rule 1 is met. I disagree with those assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 08:04 PM
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Height isn’t a part of female’s attractiveness score in the same way it is men’s by conventional standards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 08:01 PM
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Im surprised race didn’t come up, was it controlled for? Also does using pictures do justice to height differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:58 PM
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This is the answer I’d have guessed. It’d be cool if you had the study or a link
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:40 PM
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My senior year of college I was in the best shape of my life and had a handful of underclassmen girls I was seeing. So my guess is slightly older men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:40 PM
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220 could be a very well built 6’3”. But ya prob not “thin”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:32 PM
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I’d agree that imo it seems to matter less IRL. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:31 PM
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I had a friend in college who was 6’9”. I think the dude had marphans or something. Girls that found him attractive had like a fetish for height and were well beyond the norm. I agree its not a linear relationship with attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:28 PM
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I agree bone structure or being out of shape (id also say race) are probably larger contributions than height. But that doesnt mean it doesn’t have an impact and im just curious if that impact comes from something like perceived physical strength or from something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:26 PM
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Ok thanks for sharing your experience. In general I’m talking more about general trends. I think height and muscularity/perceived physical strength are both correlated with male attractiveness to heterosexual women. Im looking more for if height is a derivative of the perceived physical strength or if it contributes independently
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:22 PM
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I dont think the traits (facial symmetry, height, muscularity, ect) are evaluated individually. I think they sum to a score. But so long as height is a variable in that sum then it will have a correlation with outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:19 PM
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When do you think height becomes a negative in the eyes of most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:14 PM
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No I disagree given the info we have. I think the # of sexual partners wasn’t affected but quality may have been. Like I see the sexual market place as a a supply and demand where most guys add up a girls value based on what they find attractive and females vice-versa. You then go for the best you can get. If height contributes to the overall attractiveness for most heterosexual women then shorter men have less demand in the sexual market place (regardless of their other factors on an individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:13 PM
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Wym “without muscle” like just indifferent to muscularity or actually a preference to guys who look like they don’t weight train? And a repulsion to guys who do? (I mean within the naturally achievable realm not guys who look subhuman and juiced out). And for feeling “smaller” do you mean small or weak? If it is just “small” would that make very overweight men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:09 PM
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Its doesnt need to be a hard-line cutoff to affect dating pools and trends. If it is part of overall attraction then it shrinks the selection pool
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:04 PM
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I think the “6ft” thing could be a shit test or could be them having internalized the way we talk about male height and think they need a 6ft as like the cutoff to be able to brag or showoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:52 PM
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Still a difference that would change your dating pool? The size of dating pool would affect potential matches
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:50 PM
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Is the biological attraction to the power (and then by height through extension) or directly to height?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:47 PM
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So you’re calling a “shit test” essentially? (A socially acceptable one as if race was used it would make the girl famous for the wrong reasons) Height is generally correlated with male attractiveness though no?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:45 PM
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What about attractiveness of said partners? Also was interesting to see the weight one too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:43 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:40 PM
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Is it possible testosterone or HgH levels are selected for and the height is a corresponding outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:36 PM
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I think its the young thing cause i meant this variable on its own. But what is “Kibbe types”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:33 PM
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Your answer is both but your explanation reads to me like just the correlation part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:25 PM
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I’m a pretty hairly guy and always thought that was regarded as masculine but not in a sexually attractive way and when I get into summer shape have always like trimmed chest hair a bit? Also I can’t picture back hair as attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:24 PM
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Wouldn’t that make other secondary sex characteristics like body hair, or baldness, or other male things typically regarded as unattractive part of sexual dimorphism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:17 PM
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Never heard this phrase just googled it: Wouldn’t that make things like body hair attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:09 PM
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r/truerateme
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 05:43 PM
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He is funny and charismatic to us; but a liability when out. He usually just gets shit faced or high when we go out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 07:24 PM
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Im a 23M. I go out with various friends to bars and clubs on weekends. All but one of us takes pride in how we look, watch what we eat, go to gym ect. The exception is one kid who comes along, always dressed goofy and is super overweight. I like him when we are just chillin or something but when we go out it totally has a huge effect on the group’s perception were we go. Are we assholes to stop bringing him? The nights he hasnt come we do a lot better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 07:07 PM
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Lmao saving this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 07:03 PM
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Thanks dude ya in college i was into bodybuilding and got jacked. Used to bench 250 and weighed in the 130s sub 10% bf. (170 now and prob > 15%) Also always been afraid of heavy deads and squats tho cause of lower back pain. I don’t really go past 225 on squat and 315 on deadlift. I want at least a 135 OHP tho. I might starting wearing a belt for OHP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 07:09 PM
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They are getting turned into industrial spaces and warehouses but that also sounds cool, but would take more renovation probably
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 04:27 PM
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My bench is fine with a 1RM over 250 (im 5’6), but I need my deadlift, squat, and OHP to catch up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:37 PM
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“Varbie”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:35 PM
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Welp that would make more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 04:02 PM
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Isnt that super underweight? Especially if they are even remotely muscular
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:18 PM
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Uh in kg that seems super heavy and in lbs thats pretty light
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 01:29 PM
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Would not have unprotected sex with someone I found unattractive. Even if attractive I always wear a condom the first few times
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 01:27 PM
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Sounds like you’d be a great bouncer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 11:36 AM
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Usually can’t cum. Often after drinking. If I finish myself i get post nut clarity and feel kinda gross. Tell myself I made her day/night then try to put it behind me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:37 PM
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People want to put others below them. Social class is a big one so if you are poor but can feel superior for race then you will cling to that. UC whites have plenty of racists but there is less motivation and less ego on the line for them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:32 PM
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When you start lifting the body can recomp (especially for guys). Once you’re in deeper you will have to go through “cutting/bulking” to keep seeing improvements
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:30 PM
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I kinda don’t like the idea of a sah parent. It feels like one parent using the other. I want to provide for my kids one day but have no desire to support someone else for the sake of it, and would rather parent children with someone else who also wants to support them. Neither of my parents stayed at home once we (my siblings and I) started school, and they both worked 2 jobs. Also to me someone wanting to be a sah parent and not having career goals is kinda offputting and unattractive in a rom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:14 PM
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Can you explain what you mean by “SAHM”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:09 PM
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I thought the idea was to be alpha bucks? Maybe i misinterpreted
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:04 PM
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What i read about red pill seems like men are supposed to be the “bucks” so like financial providers. I’ve always thought about trying to put myself in a good financial position (primary driver in college major decision for example) to support a family but would also expect my wife to have the same personal goal. Honestly my ideal scenario is we are both working professionals and neither is a stay at home parent Like I guess is it bluepill to expect both a “looksmatch” and “goalsmatch”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 05:56 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:40 AM
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Not super well versed in this kind of stuff: As a straight 23M is it blue pill to expect my wife to also contribute to the financial well-being of our future family?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 01:26 AM
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Nice. I was a design engineer directly out of college and drew up a lot of P&IDs so remember adding in controllers. Moved into different work now but that stuff was fun. i never tuned them more like reviewed specifications and made sure it worked for system we were designing ect
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:37 PM
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Tune some PID controllers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:28 PM
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Really just lurking here but wanted to add: Testosterone does get turned into estrogen by the body so high levels in people taking extra will lead to more estrogen (common for bodybuilders to get gyno). But most guys on gear who know what they are doing will also take things (like nolvadex) to help prevent the aromatization of test to estrogen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:14 PM
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In college tinder was a lot of girls who loved The Office and Travel. Like kind of a running joke. The male equivalent to holding a fish maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:07 PM
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Body language, inviting to dance
/r/seduction15/07/19 06:20 PM
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He didnt just get numbers. He was there holding his own for some time and by everyone’s body language it was going well. I didn’t go follow up with the guy and see what happened next, im just giving an anecdote from two days ago that reinforces to me that height is overblown
/r/seduction01/07/19 05:07 PM
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This weekend I saw a guy who was probably 5’5 approach a group of 6 girls by himself (many of them were stunningly gorgeous). He stayed with them for at least 10-15 mins and had them laughing ect. He left with the hottest girl’s #. This guy was shorter than all 6 girls but didnt let that stop him. Don’t let it stop you. That’s shallow bullshit that you’re better off just pushing out of you’re head
/r/seduction01/07/19 03:51 PM
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This sounds like narcissistic personality disorder
/r/TheRedPill16/08/17 03:32 AM
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I love those videos, I feel like he knows me better than most people who actually know me.
/r/seduction30/07/17 01:34 AM
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