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Red Pill Theorydeepsouthscoundrel/r/TheRedPill05/09/14 05:13 PM
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I remember 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 10:40 PM
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Imagine telling on your man like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 08:33 AM
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Women in their twenties: "Be a man and walk away." Women in their thirties: "Where have all the men gone?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 08:15 AM
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Walking away is literally what TRP philosophy advocates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 07:59 AM
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Vet a guy before dating, ie as his friend/acquaintance. Aka avoid online dating Only have sex after an established relationship, bf/gf labels These are good ideals to have in theory, but context is key. If the woman establishing these boundaries is doing so while still young and attractive, it will come across as far more genuine, and will appeal IMO to both types of men. Women have the most options when they're young and this attitude reflects that she is weighing those very carefully, signalli…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 04:41 PM
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Contraception is cheap and pervasive; women decide to become mothers independent of who they sleep with. We're not talking about casual flings or FWB, we're talking about the father of your children. You seem to believe vetting is impossible without ESP, but in reality you don't want the responsibility of trying. You seem to believe you're just owed a man who will respect you, but you don't seem to want to respect yourself enough to follow your own rules. Yes, your own rules. Your own sub would …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:19 PM
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Most single mothers don't want to be doing it alone, its just the fathers usually turn out to be tragic and immature, usually disrespectful cheaters and selfish types refusing to grow up. Women choose the men they sleep with. Choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:44 PM
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:21 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 12:02 PM
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Personal experience. Though some women banter among women as well, it's not as prolific as it is with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 05:36 PM
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Just tag the straight woman who rejected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:40 PM
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When you're attractive and eloquent it quite literally does not matter what your beliefs are; women will adapt to you. When I started dating my wife she was left-leaning libertarian. Now she believes (accurately) that democracy was a mistake, the world is run by blackmailed pedophiles, and divine monarchy is the only government that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:32 PM
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Banter is typically something men do with other men. It's verbal roughhousing, a way to establish social boundaries among friends the way physical roughhousing establishes violent boundaries. When it gets to be too much, everyone backs off, or else it stops being fun. Banter is absolutely essential to the process of flirting, because why would I continue to see or date a woman with whom I can't be friends? My wife is my very best friend, and she can absolutely keep up, so hanging out with her is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:11 PM
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That's when I discovered TRP and started to really internalize its concepts. My outlook on dating and relationships has improved dramatically because of that. re: u/Eastuss: And what a touch it was! I'm still confused as to why she insisted on using her elbow, but whatever, I still finished.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 03:22 PM
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Perhaps the advice is immoral, repugnant or strange, but nonetheless they are rejecting feminism and this is how it could look and I suspect if a lot of women did actually reject feminism they would come to the conclusion. There is nothing strange or even novel about FDS; it's just The Rules rehashed in abrasive meme format. It is not not enough just to reject feminism to make the men who are upset at reading the subreddit okay, but you must also reject it in a way they want you to do it. Speaki…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 03:10 PM
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This has lead to oppression of minorities by the majority. But in something anyone of us is in the minority. Yes. This is by design. To yield to the minority means the inverse: the oppression of the majority by that minority. How utterly un-democratic! You're disagreeing with FDS now. The point of the sub, as I understand it, is to rather ruthlessly select out lesser men. Part of this will inevitably lead to women becoming frustrated at the lack of good men; if good men were abundant they wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 09:03 PM
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John Mulaney sums it up perfectly: Why buy the cow? Because you love her. You really do. And, yeah, yeah… Sure, she’s a bossy little Jew, but… … she takes care of you. And you don’t wanna be some old man stumbling around, like, “Hey, you seen any loose milk?”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:46 PM
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My logic doesn't need to apply to everyone as long as it applies to most. Most women don't want to be pushing 50 and still single, even if they've internalized what feminism wants for them. They'll just be miserable and genuinely confused as to why there are no more good men left. (They're here, just dating younger women who want families.) What a parasitic ideology; they help feminism to live long and prosper, but feminism doesn't exactly return the favor. Besides, the women who do not want fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:44 PM
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Being able to pick up on non-verbal social and conversational cues is a signal of social-intelligence, and social-intelligence is a signal of fitness of genes. Anti-social types were hard-ostracized 10,000 years ago, and we haven't evolved that much since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:35 PM
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By that same logic it would be empowering for me to quit my job and play video games all day. Oh how liberating that would be! I can do what I want; that does not absolve me from the consequences that choice has upon my own happiness and fulfillment. At some point we begin to value long-term happiness and stability over short-term pleasure-chasing, even if that means abstaining from behaviors that are objectively destructive and toxic. I see FDS as a cultural reaction against the omnipresent not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:08 PM
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This. MRP is playing for keeps. "Can I hold frame indefinitely?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:52 PM
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Speaking as a man who has long since internalized TRP concepts, I'm not uncomfortable in the slightest. Women's approach to the sexual marketplace stopped being a mystery to me in 2012. The only baffling part was why women seemed to deny its existence for so long. Reading FDS is, if anything, a refreshingly honest take from women about how to play the game for the purpose of getting commitment from men instead of just casual sex. Ironically this is what the politically-incorrect anti-feminist pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:36 PM
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This, exactly. Women are finally realizing that third-wave feminism was wrong about casual sex being empowering, that commitment from a quality man feels 10,000% better. Good for them. Great for them, in fact! Of course the men who read TRP have known this for a while. I've been TRP for seven-ish years, and happily married for five. One of the first things I learned was "men want sex, women want commitment, and both will compromise depending on who is perceived to be more valuable to whom". It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:00 PM
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I perused the first few dozen posts. Lots of memes happening here, looks like the bulk of the advice is in the sidebar. Down a ways are some field-report style threads by women who have used FDS to improve their relationships or end their bad ones. A common theme: women being too available is bad and reduces respect men have for them. ...Oh snap is it finally happening? Are women finally realizing that third-wave feminism was wrong about casual sex being empowering, that commitment from a qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:50 PM
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Of course not, but they blame it on patriarchy, to which the solution is obviously more feminism. At no point does the feminist admit fault for perpetuating sexism, and she refuses responsibility for her behaviors when presented with them. Her sexist actions are all the fault of some men, somewhere. You see, feminists actually believe themselves to be powerless. That's why they enlist the help of men to achieve their goals.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 06:12 AM
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You thi…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 05:37 PM
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It's certainly possible, but that's up to every man individually. I can't tell you how many men I've seen settle down with a woman and then stop lifting, stop purusing hobbies, stop doing the things that made her attracted to him in the first place. A long-term relationship is not an excuse to be complacent. She needs to understand that if she makes the mistake of leaving you in the morning, you will have someone else in your bed that night.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 04:47 PM
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There is a small holdout of traditional gender roles in the American South (among white women at least), but even that is quickly evaporating. I understand your frustration, believe me. Even before finding TRP my standards were very high, and there weren't many women I'd consider dating. TRP reduced that number further, into the single-digit percentages I'd wager. This isn't a bad thing, however. I'd rather be alone than lower my standards. If I can't find someone in that "happy medium" then I'l…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 01:37 PM
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Holy shit. This advice is about the exact opposite of what actually works. The guys that will follow this will only end up confused, frustrated, and alone. One of them may actually take out this frustration by shooting up a school. No, really. Remember, Eliot Rodger was the "supreme gentlemen". He followed advice just like this (to the exclusion of all other methods) and when he finally realized none it actually worked he finally snapped.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/14 08:05 PM
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This is a great way of looking at it. There's always going to be someone else better than you in some way, in some context, at all times, but that doesn't matter so long as you know you are improving. Guys will do well to remember that male SMV appreciates over time. You should never feel like your best years are behind you because they're right fucking now!
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 04:15 PM
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No, there's no reason to make it more complicated than simply walking away and breaking contact. You have to understand that once you're in the "friendzone" you've already fucked up. You fucked up by not making your intentions clear enough either through speech or body language. Once she sees you as a "friend" there's very little hope to get her to change her mind. The "friendzone" is not a postponement of rejection, because it is a rejection.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 04:13 PM
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This is very true. Good catch.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 01:22 PM
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Of course. Simply put, there's no reason to stay in a one-sided relationship. That's all the "friendzone" is: a one-sided relationship. If a woman is trying to keep you in a one-sided relationship (after you've made your intentions clear) the best thing to do is to end the relationship.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/14 01:21 PM
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This is a perfect example of why men shouldn't take dating advice from women - women can only give you their experience of dating. In the example of Megan Fox, a 10 who would never need to actually initiate any sort of dating situation, she can only advise is just waiting around for things to happen to you. And here's the thing, this might actually work for the guys in her social circle (just picture the types of guys Megan Fox would hang around and date) but this advice does nothing for the vas…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/14 07:59 PM
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I can't tell anyone else how to feel. What I can say is that when I discovered TRP/PUA years ago I was far more excited for future success than I was angry at past failure. Take that as you will.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/14 09:06 PM
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We're still talking about the scenario I laid out before, right? You said it yourself, if women select sexual partners based on genetics alone it leaves a lot of men without available women. Without available women the term "man" loses all context. Are you going to be the one to tell those men that all the work they did, all the self-improvement was basically for nothing?
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 08:29 PM
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It would be, if the only option is an exponential amount of effort for little to no reward.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 08:23 PM
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You'll find that many men are perfectly capable of resepcting and admiring themselves without self-improving to the top 20%.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 08:16 PM
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Not 6'4"? Out of luck. Not handsome? Out of luck. etc Once men realize the situation they're in I'd bet my life that not all of them would continue having their shit together. The driving force behind men having their shit together is the attraction of women, so if deciding factor in attractiveness is solely genetics then men won't work so hard. Many more men will go their own way, the number of "available attractive" men will reduce, and balance will once again be achieved. Only this time the s…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 07:36 PM
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Mother nature imposes biological limits on us all. It would be foolish to fret over genetic realities that we can't change. The short answer is yes, it would be hard mode, but there's no reason to suspect this is a plausible scenario. There will always be men who deny TRP entirely, there will always be men who decide to go their own way, and there will always be men who remain completely 100% clueless about the nature of women. Even if the entireity of reddit's userbase embraced TRP, that's stil…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 07:20 PM
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Well, then it's on him to recognize the trend of men generally getting their shit together and step up his game. Again, basing one's strategy from the relative poor performance of competitors is a losing strategy. People who compete fiercely do so with the knowledge that their competition could suprass them at any time, so there's no reason not to be at the top of their game.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 06:10 PM
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Someone helped me out when I was an average frustrated chump. The least I can do is pay it forward. Besides, if I'm planning my sexual strategy around the relative poor performance of my competitors, then I don't deserve to win anyway. Also, women will always find the top 20% of men most attractive, even if all men become inherently attractive. If we follow your premises to their logical conclusion nothing actually changes in TRP sexual strategy, because even if all men are attractive, women wil…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 05:22 PM
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That's called leveling the playing field. Women instinctively know how to play the game, while men have to learn.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 04:26 PM
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Redpill women, while commendable for accepting truth, are still women. And that's not to think of women as lesser creatures - women are great! But there's nothing mystic about them. They, as women, still respond best to dominance, confidence, self-control, and stability. The only difference is that they are aware of this response.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 08:57 PM
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I made sure to mention that it's completely possible that we didn't come up with the precept that horses are unicorns on our own, that it may have been put there by external forces. In fact, I'd wager that this is the case the vast majority of the time in our liberalized, feminized society. The point I was trying to get across is that once you realize what horses are and what they are not, it's up to you to make the rational choice of amending your behavior. Yes it's important to realize that yo…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 08:54 PM
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No, and it's not a conundrum. The litmus test of if a woman is LTR-worthy isn't how soon they hop into bed with a man, but how much they desire commitment from that man once they do. The promiscuity of women is based on two factors: the first is the perceived alpha traits of the man in question, and the second is the social conditioning of the woman (or, just how much she can get away with sexually while still being socially validated). If women have zero social pressure to suppress hypergamy, t…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 07:57 PM
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I would agree. Cows are to be ignored, and nobody wants a worn-out horse.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/14 05:37 PM
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Have you given any thought to moving back to where you came from? If you're an adult there's no reason why you couldn't move back. That would be my first thought. Is that not an option for you?
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 06:22 PM
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The terms "alpha" and "beta" can help us identify attributes to emulate in order to achieve a preferred goal. They're not meant to define people in this context, only the personality traits of people. It doesn't do anyone any good just to "be more alpha" because "alpha" is not the best way to be at all times and in all contexts - it's very heavily situational. At least this is how I've always understood it.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 06:04 PM
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It's not that big of a deal. As you said, qualities that make men "alpha" are mostly innate not conducive to modern society. I don't feel a strong urge to become "alpha" as many put it, because even alphas have to live in modern society with the rest of us. I don't lament who I am not, because A) there's nothing I can do about it, and B) even those men have their problems. The good news is that you don't have to be "alpha" to reap the benefits that alphas do. Pick up artistry is what people use …
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 04:19 PM
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So, to clarify, you still live in this country? Do you feel as though you're culturally isolated due to no assimilating?
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 01:27 PM
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As feminism is codified into law, it becomes almost impossible to avoid completely. Let us be clear: our society is a feminized one. That being said, if a woman grows up in a conservative environment it's far easier for her look at liberalism (and feminism) critically and see the double-standards of feminism as they really are. This forces the woman into a dichotomy: she can either accept the advantages given to her by a feminist state and accept that she supports this, or she can maintain her c…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/14 03:19 PM
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Can you be more specific? Are we talking about careers, or hobbies, or what? Regardless, limitations will always exist, and there's little I can do about that. That doesn't stop me from enjoying what I enjoy to the best of my ability.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/14 03:09 PM
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I'm not sure I follow, but I'll try my best to respond. I don't think I've ever decided that I like to do something. If I enjoy it, if I have fun doing it, if I like myself more for doing it, then I like it. But none of that is a conscious decision, it's just feeling happy.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/14 03:03 PM
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I've only ever seen it in the very southernmost areas of the US, and I've heard of it in some Native American cultures as well. As a young adult I've lived in southern Louisiana all my life, and the vast majority of women I've known from here want to be married ASAP, and end up engaged/married by 25. The ones that don't want to be married are outed pretty quickly as CC riders. New Orleans is a pretty liberal city all around, but the suburbs within 15-45 miles of the city are very conservative. E…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 07:25 PM
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There's no reason for women to go back to the way things were, not with feminist social conditioning telling them that they can have it all. My favorite quote from that article: With marriage 1.0—the kind you couldn’t end by clicking your heels three times—the woman secured the commitment of a man for life. She sacrificed being able to bang the bad boy with the motorcycle at age 22 for being able to be seen in public with a man instead of a shopping cart full of cat food at age 52. It was a good…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 03:17 PM
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I wish I could upvote this more than once. This, right here, is the crux of the issue: if your only redeeming attribute is "niceness" then no woman will be attracted to you.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 01:56 PM
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Good god, what a nightmare. You don't have to put up with that nonsense. End the relationship. If she's emotionally unstable or suicidal then she needs professional help, not a whipping-boy for a boyfriend.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/14 06:40 PM
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If I didn't know what the weather would be like tomorrow, the best thing I could do is to research what the weather was like on tomorrow's date in past years. If I wanted to know how an employee will perform at a job, the best thing I could do is to talk to past employers about his or her performance. Do you see where I'm going with this? The best way to predict future events is to study relevant past events. Now, if I know a woman has had sexual partners in the double digits by age 23, assuming…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/14 12:36 AM
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There's no need to do anything. It's far easier just to let them be wrong.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/14 12:55 PM
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I want a woman who will love me for me, who will keep loving me if were to lose everything, if I stopped making her feel secure, if I stopped giving her the tinglies, if I lost frame. When you think about it this makes no sense. Why would she continue to feel that you're special when you're actively demonstrating to her that you aren't? Sure, it sounds nice in concept, but in order for this to be reality it would take women acting in opposition to their own interests. Never going to happen. The …
/r/TheRedPill21/08/14 06:13 PM
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Feminism has eliminated any incentive to settle down and raise a family, and single men can survive very frugally. Men who would have otherwise worked and studied hard to provide security to a wife and kids are now instead choosing to invest only in themselves and their hobbies. Marriage punishes men for being successful. Therefore, men should either avoid marriage or avoid success.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/14 08:39 PM
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Just a few more laws, don't you see? Just a few more laws and then we'll have freedom.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/14 04:04 AM
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It doesn't have to make logical sense, because attraction is a feeling, not a choice. If attraction were based logically on who would make the best long-term partner the roles would be reversed. Unfortunately that's not the world we live in.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/14 06:17 PM
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This is why I cohabitate. By splitting rent with my gf I'm saving $500 more every month than I would be living on my own. Also I have access to her seven days a week, where if we weren't cohabitating we'd only see each other on weekends. I have about 25 orgasms per month so my CPO is actually in the negative. In other words, I'm actually gaining roughly $20 per orgasm.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/14 12:42 PM
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I remember reading a study somewhere that found that more than 50% of women interviewed would cheat if they knew they could get away with it, but 90% of women wouldn't forgive their boyfriends/husbands if he were caught cheating.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/14 03:59 PM
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I'm not sure how you got that from what I said, but no, that's not the case. I'm very committed to my girl, and for the first time in my life I'm not afraid of being rejected, because my self-worth doesn't come from my relationship.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/14 12:53 PM
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No. I make no overt effort to tell my girl that I could leave her and be perfectly happy. All I do is ensure that if I ever needed to make that known, that she would implicitly know that I could actually make good on the threat. She would know this implicitly because I'm fit, handsome, financially sound, well-dressed, and socially apt. That is the vigilance I'm referring to. All of these things take time and effort to maintain, but the payoff is insurance that A) she probably won't leave me, and…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/14 09:40 PM
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Maintaining the vigilance of being "ready to walk" at all times is what makes my current relationship simultaneously the most difficult I've ever had and the most rewarding. Way to stick the dismount, brother.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/14 06:34 PM
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First I saw the title, "My wife wants me to act like her ex-bf in bed..." Then I thought to myself, "You know, I bet this requested shift in personality won't be towards being more caring, attentive, loving, or compassionate. I bet she wants to be treated far more aggressively and with less respect than this guy is treating her." Then I clicked the link and read this: They dated while she was in grad school and the relationship lasted about three years. It broke off because he started to become …
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 11:34 PM
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I see. You don't have to necessarily dump the friendship, but should you wish for it to continue you may want to explain to your friend why you won't visit him at his home anymore. At the very least the two of you could remain professional acquaintances in lieu of a friendship, no?
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 07:42 PM
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What's more important to you - maintaining this friendship or not being disrespected? I'm from the south too, and yes, you respect someone in their own home. If it were me I'd just stop visiting that person's home. When asked why, tell them the truth. "Your wife has disrespected me too many times. We can spend time together without her, or not at all." There's a chance he'll react negatively when faced with the reality of his SO driving away his friends. He may call you a bad friend or worse, an…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:58 PM
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If women are equal to men why should I go out of my way to make a woman feel comfortable when I wouldn't do the same for a man?
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 04:12 PM
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above all else, dont discus how to do any of these things in clear, concise terminology that makes the transfer of these ideas easier for men, especially if that language makes anyone feel uncomfortable.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 01:58 PM
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Regardless of why it's the case, TRP will continue to progress through the Overton degrees of acceptance. My personal guess is that it will reach the Sensible stage at 120,000 subscriptions and the Popular at 180,000. Finally, as outlined in The Misandry Bubble, the observable realities that TRP describes will have to be taken into account when making policy sometime before the year 2030. I'd say that is yet to be determined. Once TRP tenets are picked up by the political realm, movement through…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 05:32 PM
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We can't have a dialogue if you won't define your terms. At no point in your thought experiment is this "other component" demonstrated to be a part of rape culture, as you've defined it. If you wish to include this other component in your definition you must actually include it in your definition, Edit: then demonstrate (not just assert, demonstrate) this to be true. Also if you're going to amend your definition during an argument I'd suggest refraining from doing that without making it known. I…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 04:12 PM
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First of all, no, you're not allowed to express your worldview so long as it clashes with the feminine imperative. You will be met with shaming, emotional arguments, and accusations of being sexist. "Think as you like but behave like others," as the saying goes. If you wish to respond further, I would point out that this is not an argument that all women should change in these ways, but simply the rational observation that if a woman values being more attractive to men, she should change in thes…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 02:17 PM
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So you are amending the definition? To include actions recommended in our sidebar?
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 10:28 PM
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I was assaulted and have subsequently learned that is a good idea to be able to hear well when walking down a dark street. That is my participation in rape culture. You're the one who defined rape culture as changes one makes to prevent a crime (in this case sexual assault). If you'd like to amend that definition you're more than welcome to do so, but by the definition you set forth the rest of your response doesn't make sense.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 08:58 PM
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But when we talk about "rape culture" we talk about what changes a person would need to make in order to prevent a crime. Fair enough. I was wearing headphones at the time and blasting music to myself, which was almost certainly a factor in this assault (I did not hear him coming.) I have never, ever worn headphones while walking at night alone since and have cautioned others (male and female) from doing so. Precaution. I'm not blaming myself, I'm saying, hey, let's be more careful! So, by your …
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 08:40 PM
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I just think it should be okay to speak out if you think you've been drugged without feeling responsible for your potential drug-administrator's reputation. I can't agree with this line of thinking. Getting medical help when you feel like you've been drugged doesn't need to be synonymous with calling anyone out for drugging you. If you don't feel well, and you don't trust the people you're with, the responsible thing to do is just leave and seek help from someone you do trust. You don't need to …
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 07:12 PM
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Casual sex isn't to be celebrated, so long as you're male.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 09:13 PM
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So here's what all the fuss is about: this article is about a research report by Elizabeth McClintock of Stanford University challenging the notion that women can trade their beauty for a man's economic security. She does this by citing data of the preferences of students aged 20-24 who participated in extensive surveys. Keep in mind that all of this data is self-reported, and no data on the sexual/romantic partners of the participants could be collected. At best this report demonstrates that ha…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 08:26 PM
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See, when you're married, she has access to all of your income. Is it not possible to keep finances separated within a marriage?
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 08:07 PM
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I'm not trying to fault people for wanting the best for their children - I'm faulting women who falsely conflate living comfortably with the happiness and success of their children, then using that false conflation as an excuse for their greed under the guise of "I want the best for my kids." Saving for your children's college fund isn't greedy. Paying for a tutor for your children when they're having a rough time in Algebra isn't greedy. A husband and wife together making the informed, logical …
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 09:18 PM
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Money can be a factor in determining opportunities available to children, but it's not the only factor. Just as well, if the mother is that concerned about education opportunities (for example) then she's certainly free to contribute to a college tuition fund.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 05:56 PM
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Their motivation doesn't matter because their premise is flawed. Money doesn't determine the quality of life for children, quality of parenting does. More money does not equal better parenting. A good mother would understand that.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 05:43 PM
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I disagree with the notion of a man's income determining the quality of life for his children. IMO, the best thing a woman can do to ensure the best life for her children is to marry a man who would make the best father. A man who is a strong leader, a wise decision-maker, and a consistent disciplinarian fits this bill, and this is true regardless of that man's income. In other words, I've known plenty of lower-class men whose children are doing great for themselves, and plenty of wealthy men wh…
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 05:34 PM
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If the first thing he reads isn't from the sidebar then we didn't need him anyway.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 04:50 AM
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Honestly I think listing by highest paying wouldn't be a good indicator of women getting "more desirable" jobs over men, because of women's tendency to choose lower salaries in exchange for fewer hours. Again, men and women tend to desire different criteria, so at the very least you'd have to separate the lists into jobs men want and jobs women want. Besides, in my opinion the only way to truly know if a woman is a diversity hire is to compare her resume with those of every other applicant inter…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 03:58 AM
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Yes, the vast majority of people would agree that the former is more desirable, but all that demonstrates is that most people subjectively value the same things (more money compared to less, less work compared to more). However, this is still an example of subjective value and doesn't bridge the gap from subjectivity to objectivity. There can't be a list of jobs ranked "objectively by desirability," because desirability is inherently subjective. The closest you could get would be to make a list …
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 03:13 AM
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First of all, the OP specified jobs within a certain field, and I sincerely doubt that the work a manger does at Microsoft is the same that a manager does at McDonalds. Second of all, you have to think of the level of education and training required to get each job too. I mean, obviously managing a development team for Microsoft will pay more than managing a fast food crew at McDonalds, but the former requires a significant education investment. This may cause some to value it less due to the ed…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 02:16 AM
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They all want to believe that some beautiful woman is going to come along and love them for who they are. A beautiful woman can love you for who you are - so long as who you are is a strong, confident, attractive, successful man. The catch is, "love" does not imply eternal, unconditional effort on her part toward monogamy. If another man comes along who is stronger, more confident, and more attractive than you, she may very well choose him over you. Her actions are outside of your control, but t…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 10:47 PM
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There's no established "time" where you need to be ready to start dating, but in your case I'd say the sooner the better. But there's a catch: you can't settle down with the first woman you date. Allow me to explain. Here's what I don't want to happen to you: You start approaching women and have little to moderate success. Slowly you start getting the hang of how to maintain frame in a conversation and integrating Game concepts into your lifestyle. Your confidence grows and before you know it yo…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 10:13 PM
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Of course a hierarchy of jobs can exist based on objective criteria, but that doesn't imply that everyone will desire the same jobs. A lot of people (I'd even say that most people) may subjectively value the same criteria in a job, but that doesn't make subjective value the standard by which jobs are ranked.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 09:22 PM
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I have to point out: the concept that "Jobs can be ranked objectively in terms desirability" isn't logically sound. The desirability of a job is inherently subjective, as we all may desire different things in a job.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 08:43 PM
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Happy, spiritually enlightened people don’t play the “rank” game. They resist their ape-like urges (it’s difficult) to make themselves “better” or “worse” than others, and they just treat everybody equally, with respect and dignity. They realize their true value comes from their character and accomplishments, not from other people’s approval. They take legitimate criticism from others, but don’t become affected emotionally. If somebody disrespects them, they don’t fight to get their rank back; t…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 07:16 PM
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4/20, 20 percent. Still better than Cosmo. Haha. There are a few useable pieces of info, but nothing that your typical TRP subscriber wouldn't already have known.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 07:23 PM
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5) It’s not your job to change or fix her… your job is to love her as she is with no expectation of her ever changing. And if she changes, love what she becomes, whether it’s what you wanted or not. (emphasis mine) Oh, of course! It's so simple! I'll just change my standards to fit what she becomes! If she becomes a 200lb landwhale: love her for it! If she becomes an abusive alcoholic/druggie: love her for it! If she becomes a cheating whore: love her for it! If she refuses to work ever again an…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 04:01 PM
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There's nothing worth responding to. The points the author makes are all strawmen and ad hominem. At no point does he actually attempt to argue against our principles. What he does instead is try to use his "expert" to validate his shaming tactics. Remember, cracked is a comedy website. The content they produce is meant to entertain, and they know their target demographic (thebluepill, SRS, etc).
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 02:22 AM
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Reported for click-baiting. Screencap or pastebin next time.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 02:18 AM
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Reported for click-baiting. Screencap or pastebin next time.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/14 02:14 PM
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It's funny to watch them attempt to vilify our principles by invoking our principles.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 01:51 PM
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I'm not saying it's not possible or shouldn't be discussed, I'm saying that it's not worth the effort. If some men want to find ways to climb out of the friendzone then they're more than welcome to discuss how to do that. This is a sub about sexual strategy, after all. That being said, in my experience the fastest and most efficient strategy to escape the friendzone is to abandon the friendship. As others have pointed out, it takes an order of magnitude more effort to shift a woman's classificat…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 02:26 PM
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Now now, you can't explain these concepts in concise, direct language that men can understand. That would be sexist... somehow.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 01:04 PM
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No thanks. That seems like a lot of effort to invest in a girl with very little guarantee of success. I find the fastest and easiest way to escape the friendzone is to just stop being friends with her. She's already rejected you, and that's okay. Just take the loss and start again with someone new.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 12:45 PM
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This is a sub about sexual strategy, specifically for heterosexual men interested in women. There won't be a consensus about gays here because gays don't factor into our conversation. There's no hatred here, only apathy.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/14 07:33 PM
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There wasn't one specific moment, no. I was first exposed to this way of thinking when I was sixteen. There was an initial shift in my thought processes at that time, and over the years I've been shown over and over again that these tenets are true. Your opinion will solidify one way or another in time and in exposure to the real world.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/14 07:24 PM
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Big time. He's about as bluepill as it gets. Have you seen his wife? http://i.imgur.com/ZHz7R.jpg
/r/TheRedPill18/05/14 03:09 AM
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I pity this girl. She's a victim of her own solipsism. He wasn't supposed to fall in love with anyone else, just date and have fun. She assumes that 1) he even wants to just "date around" (get laid) instead of having a committed relationship (because it's what she wanted and has no concept of him wanting something different due to her solipsistic nature), and 2) that it's just as easy for young men (18-22) to get laid as it is for young women (newsflash: it isn't, but again she has no concept of…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 07:36 PM
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There has been more political correctness in the military in the last few years. I'm not saying it hasn't had an adverse effect on the military, I'm just saying that I, personally, have an easy time seeing through the bullshit (thanks to TRP). Also, I should note that my experience comes from the USMC, so I can't speak for the armed forces as a whole.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 01:18 PM
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Haha. Truth. ♂
/r/TheRedPill15/05/14 03:37 PM
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I've sat through those briefs, and I agree it's pretty bad. However, once you've taken TRP, you can see right through the bullshit. A lot of my peers take the information they present at face-value, but I always ask for a source. They rarely provide one (or cite the CDC, lol), at which point I dismiss it as propaganda and carry on as I was before.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/14 03:00 PM
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When I took the pill I was already five years into my first enlistment, so I can't credit my time in the service towards TRP. What I can tell you is that once I took the pill, my appreciation for my military career has increased tenfold. Pre-TRP I doubted my decision to enlist, thinking college to be the superior alternative. Now I can see universities for what they truly are (feminist indoctrination centers) and I'm so, so thankful for not having spent thousands upon thousands of dollars "follo…
/r/TheRedPill15/05/14 02:57 PM
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Yeah, not too bad for someone posting in foreveralone. It's redpill without the terminology.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 11:25 PM
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Not at all. I'm saying there are plenty of alternatives, but mainstream feminist society tends to shame men for pursuing them.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 06:13 PM
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The alternatives are frowned upon by politically correct society. Good thing we tend not to give a fuck.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 06:01 PM
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The foreveralones have yet to discover that women have dual mating strategies. From their perspective, they can only see the first (acquire sperm from the most-alpha males) considering their views of women stem from early teen/young adult interactions. They see the "alpha fucks" strategy as the feminine default. Thus, when women inevitably shift to "beta bucks" as they approach the wall, the foreveralones view it as women lowering their standards, not switching strategies. Edit: in a way you cou…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 05:44 PM
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Sure, you could fuck about with online courses but nobody takes those seriously unless they're accredited and are given out by actual universities Well obviously I'd only take courses from a school that's accredited. The point of doing so would keep me off of campus and out of what's becoming an increasingly hostile environment toward men.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/14 11:14 PM
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Very true. Where do you live/work, if you don't mind me asking?
/r/TheRedPill02/05/14 11:11 PM
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Coincidentally, I work in IT as well. I know several people from high school who got IT degrees from local universities who are having trouble finding work. Whereas people I've known who went to school online while acquiring some IT certs on the side have graduated to go on making damn-near six figures. Edit: I know anecdotal evidence does not a convincing argument make. I'm just trying to get a feel for the job climate.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/14 07:40 PM
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Interesting. Out of curiosity, where do you work, and in what field?
/r/TheRedPill02/05/14 07:10 PM
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Why on earth would I go to a university in the United States when I have the alternative of getting the same education online (possibly a better education for my particular field) for one-tenth the cost? Why would I pay to insert myself into this liberal witch hunt? No way, man. Getting an education is important, but going to a university here in the states should be the absolute last resort.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/14 06:56 PM
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I really believe most of it still comes down to how attracted they are to you. Sometimes it seems effortless with certain girls.. like I could do no wrong. In fact, they've done some of the work for me (initiating contact, offering up their schedule, etc). Agreed. If a woman is attracted enough to you she'll be the one tripping all over herself to get with you (and stay with you). Little to no effort required, as long as you maintain frame.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/14 12:55 PM
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Thank you for stating so eloquently stating what I've been contemplating for a long time. I can't thank this community enough for helping me understand women better than I ever have, which has in turn helped me love and appreciate women for who they are.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 03:23 AM
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I enjoy a subtle dig at a feminist every now and then. Then again, I don't talk to any feminists.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/14 04:48 PM
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My relationships only improved once I realized that she needs me far more than I need her. Like other responders to this thread have mentioned, "You are the prize" mentality is something that you have to genuinely believe to be true in order for it to work for you. Ask yourself: are you valuable to women? To people? (Be as honest with yourself as you can...) If the answer is no, then, my friend, you have some work to do. If the answer is yes, then you have nothing to worry about. Because hey, ev…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/14 04:24 AM
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Then stop posting. kthx. I will now sit back and watch you continue to make a fool of yourself. :)
/r/TheRedPill24/04/14 07:45 PM
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Textbook shaming tactic. That's how I know you're a troll. On the off-chance you aren't, you should read the sidebar before posting again.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/14 07:25 PM
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I can't agree with this post. It's based on a premise of being in a LTR with a girl without cohabitating, or only staying together for a few days of the week. In my experience, all of the perks that come with an LTR are because of cohabitation, not in spite of it. Premise D1: The only thing women do offer in LTRs (and hence the only advantage of LTRs for men) is stable childbearing/caretaker of your children. That's rather blatantly false. Women can also contribute financially to a household, if…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 12:50 PM
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Overall good post, although I'd probably still call next in that scenario. For one reason in particular: I value my time above almost everything else. In some markets where you're in high demand, you can call the shots the first day you meet her. In some markets responding to the on-hold scenario with the advice above would cost you the opportunity. It absolutely would, but that shouldn't matter to you if you're operating under a mindset of outcome independence and of abundance mentality. Some g…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 03:37 PM
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Third-Wave Feminism has two premises that logically contradict each other. The first is that women are completely equal to men, and the second is that society should help women become "more equal" by offering financial and social help to women (and not men). If women are truly equal to men (and always have been so), why would they need help in the first place?
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 03:35 PM
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The author tries to make a few points but doesn't actually demonstrate that any of them are true. He just sort of asserts them based on his own experience and hopes that to be good enough. Even if what he's saying is right, he's done nothing to convince the audience of that.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/14 07:17 PM
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"You're such a nice guy!" " (Incredulous look, rolls eyes) Heh, whatever you say, darlin'."
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 07:48 PM
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I thank you for your concession. So it would be safe to assume you're a deist? What kind of effect do your beliefs about creation have on your every day life?
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 07:39 PM
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Man, if you're gonna copy+paste directly from the christian apologist handbook, at least have the decency to format it first.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 07:12 PM
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Assuming the universe itself and the objects in the universe came into existence as one ("the singularity") then they would be one and the same, in terms of existential origin. What do you mean by "the universe itself"? What do you mean when you call the universe a "being" as opposed to an "object"? When I used science, I was refuting your claim that the physical energy of the entire universe could have always existed. I didn't make that claim. My claim was that we've never seen matter nor energ…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 07:11 PM
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As I said before, the only necessary existence is God because that is the definition of God. A Being that has to exist because It defines existence. This is nothing but circular reasoning. You haven't provided anything close to a coherent argument. You might as well have just said, "God exists because God exists."
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 06:53 PM
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I did, when I mentioned the second law of thermodynamics. Then you, when you continued that thread of the conversation. But if you want to continue the conversation in a purely logical frame, I'd be more than happy to oblige. To summarize your viewpoint: P1) A finite object cannot be the source of its own existence. P2) The universe is finite. C) The universe requires a source outside of itself. I take issue with premise two. In particular, the universe is not a finite object, because the univer…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 06:34 PM
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Science can't prove nor disprove god, nor any other hypothesis that relies on faith as one of it's premises. They're inherently unfalsifiable. So, it's equally silly to use science to try to prove a god exists as well.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 04:39 PM
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Science shows us the physical universe has an origin. Science shows us the physical universe as we know it has an origin. We can only speculate what happened before the big bang.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 04:16 PM
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You skipped the step where you demonstrated that a god exists.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 03:30 PM
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if atoms only exist because they came into existence after the big bang, how did atoms come to exist at all if there is no power that transcends the universe, but the physical universe is all there is. Science has shown us the universe did not exist forever. But the universe did not create itself when it didn't exist. What do you mean science has shown us the universe did not exist forever? We don't know what existed before the big bang (or if "before the big bang" is even a coherent concept), b…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 12:48 PM
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I think Alpha and Beta are perfectly fine terms to describe behavior, so long as they have coherent definitions. All too often I see multiple, contradictory points of view of what constitutes Alpha behavior (and Beta behavior, to a lesser extent). This leads to the broadening of definitions, and subsequent loss of meaning (if everything is Alpha, nothing is, etc).
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 07:51 PM
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This is a perfect illustration of why learning Game is necessary for young men. I guarantee you, this guy wouldn't take a cheating single mom back if he had any other options.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 04:33 PM
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I stayed the fuck inside. It's too damn cold for all of that nonsense.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 03:03 PM
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Downvoted for linking directly to Jezebel. Screencap or pastebin that shit next time.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 05:33 PM
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Here's a few gems from the actual article, in regards to allowing men to opt-out of child support who are victims of sexual assault or rape: Edit: first of all, the author simply states, "a similar exception is likewise necessary to guard against fatherhood by conscription." He compares it to laws regarding sperm doners, but he doesn't actually go into any detail at all in regards to how that paternity exception might be achieved or how it may work. No no, his focus is on limiting that exception…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 08:33 PM
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The most recent is, "Well, I'm pretty." Pffft, haha. That's pathetic. Not only is she boring, but she believes that being boring is okay. And for the better part of her 20's, it will be, because guys will validate her anyway. I don't know, maybe it's my fault for expecting too much of women, but I just can't spend my time with someone who only brings beauty to the table. These women don't do anything. No, being pretty is not a hobby. No, browsing reddit (not posting, not discussing anything) is …
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 03:19 PM
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What answers do you get?
/r/TheRedPill26/02/14 04:10 PM
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She thought she could have her cake and eat it too. Well? Happy birthday to the ground!!! Welcome to the real world, jackass!
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 05:37 PM
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Can you define "originally intended"? Where do make the distinction between an original intention and a non-original intention? Additionally, can one be sure that original intentions are objectively better, or even possible, given that society has programmed young men to value beta traits over alpha traits?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 09:58 PM
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So, in your opinion, it's impossible for a man to look at society and make a calculated decision to not settle down and have kids, and any man who makes that claim does so due to "cognitive dissonance"?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 09:28 PM
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My favorite part: OP's point: "I'm 28 years old; how much older should I get? Hormones have long come and gone. Again, you're still arguing from a place of logical fallacy. Motives are irrelevant to the strength of an argument made, regardless of who makes it." The response: "Well some people never grow up, I guess. Enjoy Neverland, you Peter Pan." When the opposition resorts to petty shaming tactics, I take it as an admission of defeat. Charge of Puerility (Code Green) – The Peter Pan Charge Di…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 02:51 AM
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Don't point this out on askmen - you'll get downvoted.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/14 05:08 PM
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It's not a perfect system, but it's the only one we have. I wish things were different too, but the necessary biological changes would need to take place over thousands of years. The alternative you suggested (cultural shift) would require the cooperation of the vast majority of men in western civilization. You may end up getting your wish though - MGTOW grows more and more every day. In addition, the system may be irrational, but it is only harmful to those that don't understand it fully. Once …
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 07:51 PM
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The second speaker assumes that the first speaker has no logical reason to say what he was about to say. Speaker 2 assumes this because he believes that Speaker 1 was rejected by a woman and is speaking out of the emotion of bitterness from that rejection. The problem is that no rejection is actually shown, only implied. This makes Speaker 2's assumption of rejection and subsequent outright dismissal of Speaker 1's argument intellectually dishonest at best and an example of willfully employing a…
/r/TheRedPill03/02/14 04:54 PM
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Classic shaming tactic. From the sidebar: Charge of Rationalization (Code Purple) – The Sour Grapes Charge Discussion: The target is accused of explaining away his own failures and/or dissatisfaction by blaming women for his problems. Example: •“You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.” Response: In this case, it must be asked if it really matters how one arrives at the truth. In other words, one may submit to the accuser, “What if the grapes really are sour?” At any rate, the Code Purple…
/r/TheRedPill03/02/14 04:27 PM
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I think it would be better of the entire species vanished than this... Wow. If that's what you really think then I'm not the right person for you to be talking to. I'd strongly suggest that you seek professional help. Best of luck.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/14 02:55 PM
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It's not just about the harm it does to me. It does harm to many others. And it can change quickly if men were willing to not give in. You seem to be under the impression that the nature of women is something that women do consciously and intentionally. It isn't. It's the product of an evolutionary process spanning millions of years. Even if all men everywhere stopped accepting hypergamy tomorrow, it would still be women's imperative because that's how women are programmed. And remember natural …
/r/TheRedPill21/01/14 04:54 PM
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You are appealing to what happens to exist now in society. There is no real thought, judgment or analysis in that. And you seem to be indulging in some sort of fantasy where women should do ABC instead of XYZ because doing XYZ is giving you this emotional crisis. What happens to exist now in society (reality) is a product of millions of years of evolution, and it's not going to change anytime soon. You are saying, basically, "I understand them better and can get them to treat me better so I like…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/14 02:41 PM
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Why is mgtow different from TRP? Doesn't TRP advocate being a confident individualistic man? Of course, but MGTOW takes it a few steps further by advocating the complete abandonment of sex and relationships, at least in the higher levels. TRP is a sub about sexual strategy - rather useless to someone who's sworn off women. Does everyone have a free pass? Do murders, rapists, pedophiles, thieves all have a free pass because there is evidence that they have a unique nature or psychological profile…
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 02:36 PM
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That depends on the woman. Edit: additionally, you'd have to maintain that frame anyway if you're going out and getting laid. Granted in a marriage the stakes are much higher, but for some men it still may be worth the risk for a woman who is valuable enough.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 12:59 AM
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There's still no real evidence that women can't help being the way they are described here because of something biological. There are anecdotes, philosophical statements and ideas about evolutionary psychology, but nothing really definitive. This is all the evidence we have to go on. Women can start proving us wrong at any time. Does your experience differ? And besides whether it is their fault or not is some what irrelevant; It's the thing itself and its consequences that I am objecting to. It …
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 05:49 PM
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When you see as RP old man who has kept a faithful sexy wife for 30, 40+ years and basically had a dream marriage, you need to understand he earned that shit every single day. Every day he beat down her hamster, he stimulated her, he developed her, he introduced her to new ideas, he ruthlessly improved himself, etc. Marriage: I'll bet you half my stuff that I can maintain my frame for the rest of my life. If that's not a challenge I don't know what is.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 02:24 PM
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I don't feel any resentment toward women because women can't help who they are. They didn't choose to be born female, so the hangups that come with that aren't their fault. (Edit: Just like the hangups that come with being men aren't our fault.) To answer your question, it's very possible to have positive feelings for women given the TRP mindset, because learning and living the TRP mindset has dramatically increased the respect and admiration women have for me. I understand women better now than…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 02:14 PM
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Thank you. Knowledge is power, but goddamn does it hurt.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/14 03:57 PM
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In that statement, I'm saying men and women are equal - we're all just trying to get by in this world, and don't, as a man who's trying to learn a little game, don't put a woman on a pedestal and think she's untouchable. Everyone has their own hangups. I think a lot of mens' insecurity is that they elevate the woman so much they have fear of approach. MALE EGOS OUT OF CONTROL I guess recognizing that women are human beings not worthy of pedestalization makes your ego out of control. Fuck it then…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/14 12:31 PM
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This reaffirms my theory that feminism is for women who are bad at being feminine (and for men who are bad at attracting women who are feminine). You don't hear a lot of resistance from women who meet these criteria, do you?
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 12:33 PM
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TRP is about sexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 02:00 AM
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That is a fantastic idea!
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 10:48 PM
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Obviously a sub about sexual strategy it not going to jive with men who have completely given up on sex and relationships, but I'm not entirely sure that everyone who identifies as MGTOW has done that. Apparently there are four levels of MGTOW, and I'm sure many people on TRP qualify for the first two.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 07:21 PM
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Why do you assume that I'm mad? You didn't think I took your post personally, did you? Haha, that's cute. You came into a sub about self-improvement and basically said, "Hey guys, bad habits are bad for you!" The overwhelming response was, "yeah, I know" or, "yeah, I know, and I don't care". Essentially this thread is pointless. So, congrats on that.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 10:00 PM
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Their "standards of happiness" mean nothing to me. And your "standards of happiness" mean nothing to them. People are going to do what they want to do, no matter how much you kick and scream about it. This sub is largely based on self improvement, and wasting 5+ hours a day gaming and milking yourself isnt conducive to that. Take it or leave it. I'm not disagreeing with you about this, but you're preaching to the wrong choir. The people who want to improve their habits (the people around here) w…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 09:33 PM
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Its completely normal for most men to feel "happy" playing video games, jacking off, and watching sports all day. But that's not a path that is good for men. It's a path that's good enough for most men. But please, enlighten us what the true path is, oh messiah. Or you could pull your head out of your ass long enough to realize that other people are allowed to have their own standards of happiness. They're not above judgment, but they aren't required to give a fuck what you think.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 09:07 PM
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TIL: Single men are responsible for the relationships of women they've never met.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/13 07:34 PM
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Nobody's kicking you out for having different opinions. If you want to leave because your opinions are unpopular, that's on you.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 04:20 PM
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Very well said. I'd vote for this post to be an addendum to the current introduction.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 07:04 PM
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Wow, didn't quite expect this long of a response! Thank you for your insight. I've enjoyed the discussion so far. A larger number of smart guys have made a rational decision to never have a family...But I also think that a lot of guys live in denial. They want families, but they recognize how much of a challenge it is, and rather than try to rise to that challenge, they protect their egos by lashing out at anyone who suggests healthy marriage is even possible today. I see. So it's the difference…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/13 10:00 PM
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You're the author then? Cool, thanks for the reponse. I don't judge men who truly don't want children. But I also think that a lot of men who claim to not want children are just afraid of the challenge of building a family in the modern era. So, if I'm interpreting your position correctly, it's a matter of motive. If that's the case, is there any funtional difference between a man weighing the pros and cons of settling down and having children and choosing not to do it and a man too afraid of th…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/13 08:09 PM
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Okay, fuck the haters then. I still think that we owe newcomers who want to understand what TRP is all about a clear and concise overview of what our thesis is, and the current introduction does a poor job of that.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/13 05:15 PM
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There's a lot here that I agree with, mainly that even the "good" girls (if they exist) will still be more attracted to men who know game than men who don't. I also agree that if you want to have children one day then you ought to find a wife that will focus on bearing them young and raising them well. What I don't agree with is the presumption that all men ought to want children, and that those that don't are lying to themselves. I'm a man who has no problem getting sex with easy women or commi…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/13 04:51 PM
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First of all, can you provide a few examples of this Inoculation Theory in action in TRP, or is this just an assertion? Second of all, can you prove there is a "true purpose" behind TRP, or is this just an assertion as well? Third of all, we completely understand that our viewpoints aren't going to be understood by outsiders; we just don't care.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/13 07:05 PM
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I absolutely agree. There needs to be more concensus on what values are actually held here to avoid confusion. It's one thing for someone to understand what TRP is and reject it, but something else altogether for someone to misunderstand TRP values and reject (edit: or accept!) them out of ignorance. We owe it to newcomers and haters alike to lay it all on the line, black and white, clear as crystal, and the current introduction does a poor job of accomplishing that. Edit2: I'd like to take this…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/13 06:34 PM
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Welcome! I'd wager that most of the people posting here don't disagree with what you've been doing. I maintain that it's important for men to be as proactive as possible when it comes to birth control and unwanted pregnancy. This includes accounting for sperm around women who you don't fully trust. However, I can't help but notice that you're accomplishing this goal with all the subtlety of a flying hammer. Even though men taking account of their sperm should be the norm, this behavior certainly…
/r/TheRedPill03/12/13 07:33 PM
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Ignorance is bliss, but knowledge is power.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/13 06:29 PM
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Maybe, but at least I go to bed knowing I haven't just fucked up his day. While your intentions are honorable, I can't go around trying to be responsible for other people's happiness (especially people I don't even know). I refuse to let her have the best of both. She gets to choose, me or him. No, see, you don't really get to make that choice. I mean yeah, you can take your ball and go home, but at the end of the day she's either going to get "the best of both" from you or she's going to get it…
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 10:45 AM
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Agreed. From the sidebar, "Sexual Strategy is Amoral": Sexual strategy is amoral. There are those who have sex, and there are those who do not. What contract will you sign up for? The one that results in you having sex? Or the ones that you're told are moral to uphold but do not bring you sex?
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 10:34 AM
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Indeed. Ironically, once you stop requiring validation from women you start acquiring it.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/13 05:22 PM
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Acquiring validation from women is very much RP. Requiring validation from women is not.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/13 05:03 PM
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Yes! This exactly! I'm not interested in being anyone's meal ticket.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/13 07:18 PM
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From the comments: dude. Dude. DUDE! This is not a personal judgment, but this article comes off tonally as sexist and whiny. Do you have female friends? Did you discuss this with them? Because they could tell you that they have different desires and personalities and don't all behave in the same way because they happen to be female. Chivalry is dead? GOOD. Stop treating women like delicate flowers who fart rainbows and aren't as interested in sex as men are, and start treating them like people
/r/TheRedPill22/10/13 08:28 PM
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How I meet a woman is irrelevant - I use game on all of my prospective love interests. Using game does not specifically mean picking up women in clubs. Game is about utilizing what you know about human behavior and sexuality to maximize your own success with women, no matter what you define that success to be. Personally, I don't feel the need to go out and pick up women for one-night stands, though I could if I thought it was worth my time. Instead I prefer to find women that are likely to shar…
/r/TheRedPill22/10/13 06:09 AM
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I was interested to hear other TRP members’ take on control in the relationship and whether it really is as she says. I don't necessarily agree with the "control" dichotomy that's being set up, as real life is rarely ever that black and white. My relationship with my girlfriend is very much a partnership. We're a team. Even though she makes me decide on a lot of the day-to-day things that come up (she's very indecisive) I'd just as easily defer to her judgment if the situation called for it. In …
/r/TheRedPill22/10/13 05:37 AM
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I'd like to start off by saying: Rape is bad, mmkay? The definition of rape has been significantly broadened over the last decade or so. Now, if any party in the sexual interaction "feels" raped then it's technically rape. I don't necessarily disagree with this - if anyone feels violated they should have a right to go to the authorities. However, by using an open-ended definition of "rape" the system runs the risk of being abused by malicious people. It happens a lot more often than most people …
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 04:33 PM
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It sounds to me that he didn't like the options given to him by society, and so he chose none of them. I can agree that maybe he's gone a little too far the other direction (I can't advocate not working toward one's own future), but if he's happy I won't tell him otherwise. I certainly won't judge anyone's manhood based on my criteria.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 04:04 PM
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I agree that there's no reason to put anyone on a pedestal. We're all human, after all. I can see how you would see him as a bum, but after what he's been through I'd say bumhood looks pretty damn appealing. He's doing what he loves to do while living his live with as little responsibility as possible. It doesn't sound all that bad, frankly.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 03:17 PM
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It seems that you have a problem with him living his life differently than you. I have to say, If I ever go through a divorce I doubt I'd do things differently. I mean, of course I'd get my bills paid on time, but so long as I can get laid whenever I like I don't see the incentive to make a lot of money.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 02:53 PM
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You can be a nice, happy, positive person without being a doormat and letting the world walk all over you. Respect yourself, and the world will have no choice but to respect you as well.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/13 07:10 AM
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You're doing fine, kid. You'll learn all you need to in time. The best advice I can give you is to never, ever put anyone on a pedestal, especially women. They're only human, just like you. The sooner you understand that the sooner you'll be successful with people.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/13 06:18 AM
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In most states, yes. You'll only need consent from one of the parties being recorded, and so long as you are being recorded as well, your consent counts. Make sure that your state has the same law. Even if it didn't, I'd take a charge for "unlawful recording" over rape any day of the week.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/13 05:52 AM
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You can download an app for most smartphones that lets you record audio. Make sure that verbal consent to sex is clearly given, and you're good to go. Safe, fast, and discreet.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/13 02:10 AM
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How these guys think, are they on the right track? I know the answer from this audience will be "No", and my logical mind knows that is the right answer, but my emotions are leaving me with an overwhelming desire to connect with women and never feel the sense of isolation I do now. Loneliness is not the worst thing in the world, so long as you enjoy who you are. Being stuck in a relationship with a woman who isn't right for you is pretty much terrible.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/13 01:43 PM
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What situation are you referring to? The fact that young people don't always make the wisest choices when it comes to dating? Live and let live, man.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/13 06:35 PM
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Did it ever occur to you that such a woman is not worth getting angry over?
/r/TheRedPill17/10/13 06:14 PM
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With only a few exceptions, fat people have no more lasting control over their fat levels than they do their height or race. That is what these studies show. Did you read the part about exercise? It only got a few paragraphs in that report. I believe this is a disservice, as regular exercise plays a huge part in maintaining both weight loss and a healthy lifestyle. From the report you linked: According to the National Weight Control Registry, a longitudinal study of individuals who maintained a …
/r/TheRedPill05/10/13 06:28 PM
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I can't blame you there. It's certainly not the easiest thing to do! I don't stay away from relationships either, but the understanding that I can carve out a perfectly happy life without female companionship is reassuring to say the least. I spend time with women because I want to, and I reserve the right to fold and go home at any time.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/13 08:50 PM
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Right, and if any of those men had chosen not to take the risk of being a pioneer I wouldn't have blamed them either.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 01:58 PM
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Men like Tesla come along every blue moon and change the game. He was a genius, but even he ended up getting screwed in the end. I wouldn't have blamed him one bit if he chose to give the world the finger and just read all day. His gifts changed the world but he didn't owe anyone anything. Nor do any of us.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 11:12 AM
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Very true. Thanks for pointing that out. It's a very turbulent time right now, indeed.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 11:00 AM
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Why is this happening to so many men? I can only speak from experience, but here's my best crack at it: Young men (I assume you're a young man too) have taken a look at what western civilization has to offer and they've realized that that the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore. Our technology allows us to live lives of comfort and security where resources are plentiful. Men evolved to be best at gathering resources and protecting our families, so a lot of us feel like we aren't needed. Thus, …
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 05:48 AM
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from what I've seen, seduction doesn't have anything or much on self improving. False. Read the sidebar.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/13 08:20 PM
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But i can't find a lot of posts here about guys who've gone from women-less to getting women, which is kindof my goal with the whole thing. You're looking for /r/seduction. Read their sidebar.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/13 06:57 PM
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I'm sure attractive guys get their fair share of negative feedback also just because they are heterosexual men. I would agree, in the sense that they share a sex and preference with less-than-attractive men.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 08:36 PM
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Yet when you decide to do so and show interest in a woman, it is often met with negative consequences, harsh rejection, insults to your person. This isn't necessarily true for the more attractive men. Their sexual interest will most always be welcome. Most men experience the negative consequences because, for whatever reason, most women view most men as "below average" attractiveness. Source. Edit: How in the hell do we fix this? Be more attractive. Or you could stop giving a shit about people w…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 07:39 PM
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While I'm always completely honest, such that they know I just want sex, I still can't detach them from feelings. I don't need approval, but hopefully someone will understand what I mean. You can't hold yourself responsible for anyone else's feelings. So long as you're being honest about what you want (which seems to be the case) you're golden.
/r/seduction07/08/13 01:11 AM
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People have had the conclusion to this experiment for ages. The hypothesis is more than supported. You might as well be testing the theory of gravity at this point. In fact, I'd wager that gravity is less constant than human beings' tendency to prefer aesthetic of presentation over content when it comes to relationships. Gravity changes depends on the planet you're on, but shallow humans will be shallow anywhere in the universe.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/13 07:57 PM
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First of all, it's not much of an experiement if you already have your conclusion. Second of all, this: The content is irrelevant, but rather the way it's conveyed into the target audience. is already common knowledge. Seems like a waste of time to me. Edit: Third of all, this piece of knowledge effects both sexes. It's not a male-exclusive phenomenon. Granted, men have to do most of the approaching (even online) so it may seem that way. I'll level with you: I have zero reason to read a gal's pr…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/13 05:32 PM
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Knock knock.
/r/becomeaman31/07/13 03:26 PM
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And the gender of the politician matters because..? In theory it shouldn't, but some people (not me) believe that it does. Something along the lines of men not being able to understand women and therefore not being able to understand women's issues. Of course that doesn't hold water, considering what you said: They represent (ideally, but that's another argument for another day) those who vote for them. The majority of those who vote are Women.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:40 PM
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So where do people get the idea that women are 'underrepresented' in politics? From the fact that the politicians themselves are usually male, not female. Some people believe that there's no way a male politician could ever have the best interest of a woman at heart, even though he's supposed to have the interests of the public at heart (in theory).
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:29 PM
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The less interested a guy is, the more I want him. The more he wants me, the less I'm interested. Thinking to myself, "$20 on daddy issues." Very end of the original post, after a long edit: Oh, christ, I have daddy issues. Booyah.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/13 02:08 PM
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It really lets you know where her mind his.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 04:35 PM
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If a prenup let’s him keep all his money, then I’d rather not continue staying with someone like that. I'm sorry, in what way are you entitled to the money that he works very hard for? Did you help him earn it? Not that I’m marrying for money, but I want a marriage to be one where we take care of each other in various ways, including sharing resources. Right, and if you ever end the marriage you stop sharing resources. You're not entitled to one red cent of money that you didn't earn the minute …
/r/MensRights10/07/13 02:36 PM
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Truth. Most smartphones will let you download a free app for audio recording, and are discreet enough to run without anyone knowing. Be advised, however, that some states require all parties being recorded consent to it, otherwise it's against the law. Be smart, know your local laws, and remember when it comes to evidence that it's best to err on the side of too much than not enough.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:24 PM
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I distinctly remember reading in a feminist article that MRAs don't need to exist because Feminism covers all of mens issues as well. I remember that when something like Lulu comes along and you hear crickets from the feminists. I remember that and I laugh to myself. I don't listen to feminists when they tell me what they do and don't support anymore. They can only demonstrate what they support through their actions, and their actions pretty much demonstrate that the vast majority of them really…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:54 PM
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By that definition I've been raped countless times. I can't tell you how many times a woman has tricked me into thinking she has some sort of personality only to find out after sex that she's dull as dirt. RAPE! MISANDRY! MATRIARCHY!
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:45 PM
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