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Which part? The fact that Miles Groth and Roy Den Hollander have both written for AVFM? The fact that the SPLC named AVFM as a "hate site"? The fact that AVFM uses the words "bitch" and "whore" often? A quick Googling confirmed all those things, so what is it that's been debunked? The characterization of AVFM as a hate site could be arguable I suppose. But none of those statements you quoted are wrong.
/r/MensRights14/01/14 06:24 AM
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Dont you find it ironic that it is ok when black people call other black people "nigger" while it is not ok for white people to call black people "nigger"? Feel free to skip this because it might make you mad. Just saw this; can't sit in silence. NO, definitely NOT. It is absolutely NOT acceptable for white people to use the N word, ever, under any circumstances. It's hypocritical of WHITE PEOPLE to think we have the right to use whatever language and be welcomed in whatever communities we want,…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 07:24 AM
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Another article from the same author: A Statistics Primer Very instructive so far; haven't finished it yet.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 09:09 PM
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Our evolutionary history does not override social pressures. At this point in the history of Homo sapiens, we're rational creatures--at least insofar as we can think and make decisions. We may have primeval urges--for sex, food, pleasure--but we can decide to act on them or not. The opposite of evolutionary psychology is certainly not young-earth creationism. Watch your artificial binaries.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 07:19 PM

Hey hentaipolice, I was going through your comment history like a creep, and I gotta say this before calling it a night. Sociology is a field of study that tries to quantify the qualitative. It assumes that there are patterns to social behavior, that people aren't making decisions in a vacuum. If you're going to measure something like why murders happen, you can't take a soil sample or a gas chromatograph or an equation and find a concrete answer. In order to test a hypothesis, you have to contr…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 07:58 AM
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exhaling whatever rancid stench of myth you absorbed during your childhood when you grew up surrounded by layers upon layers of mysticism, misconceptions, deceit and manipulation. I think your metaphor got away from you. Sorry if I offended you by saying something you disagree with! :) I'm imagining if the legal age of consent were done away with, and how much injustice that would permit, and I see no way of eliminating it if I care about human rights. Yes, it's as arbitrary as any legislation. …
/r/MensRights03/12/12 07:31 AM

Not at all; dressing sexy doesn't mean being constantly in a state of consent! Yikes.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 07:27 AM
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Gross, dude.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 07:26 AM

Have you met the majority of women? This is why it's bad to apply a negative opinion about one person or several people to the whole group. It's a logical fallacy to take a little bit of information and stretch it that far. In this case, where your negative opinion of some people is applied to everyone who belongs to a particular sex, this is called "sexism."
/r/MensRights03/12/12 07:02 AM
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You can't even sympathize with a victim solely because he's a male. Are you saying I can't or don't sympathize with the male student in the case? I'm pretty sure I mentioned my personal history, and that was meant to illustrate my main point: I am deeply sympathetic. I insist on taking victims seriously and hearing them out. Where there's a power differential, it's reasonable to look first at the person who stands "uphill." One result of the patriarchy is that a man's word is often taken over a …
/r/MensRights03/12/12 07:00 AM
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Bullseye. While the case is more complicated than "this person abused this other person and deserves punishment," it is still a crime for a an adult to have sex with a minor. There must be a dividing line for legal adulthood, and that line is necessarily somewhat arbitrary.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 01:30 AM
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if he had gotten as far as going on a date with her This troubles me. I think it's unfair to ignore the huge POWER differential between a teacher and a student. Here, you're framing it like the student was trying to seduce the teacher, which reinforces the idea that women are passive recipients of sexual attention. Obviously you don't think that's the case, because it's clear that this woman had power over her student and abused it. I'm not disagreeing with your thoughts so much as the wording. …
/r/MensRights03/12/12 01:20 AM

statistically by all available statistics Link some statistics. I'm not gonna take your word for it! more hours and for longer years Oh my god, are men getting extra days per year!? Discrimination! I demand 366-day years! Or maybe you just mean that those pesky women are always breaking their uteruses and getting knocked up.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 08:05 PM

"it's not that I don't like women; I just find them annoying!"
/r/MensRights02/12/12 07:38 PM

Yes, Besides apparently being agreed-upon in advance, it is damn sexy for the (assumed male) viewer and the male protag. The game shows his disembodied (white) hands groping her naked, painted breasts. Cuz it's part of some sexy mystical black tribal thing. Racist bullshit right there.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 08:07 AM
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Citra's character is there for straight-man pleasure. She's a black "warrior priestess" in a miniskirt and crop top. She also happens to be conventionally attractive, thin, and made up like a "savage." That's not much of a challenge to the status quo. In the scene in question, your player character is shown groping her naked, war-painted breasts as she grinds on you. She's an aggressive "tribal" black woman, lascivious and super hot, and she wants you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xQkSN_c5D0
/r/MensRights02/12/12 07:55 AM

No; it is to propose that all prospective employees have equal rights to be considered for a job. If two candidates are equally qualified, but one is black, or female, that's not a legitimate reason to refuse to hire that candidate. There should be laws in place to punish folks who make hiring decisions based on prejudice against oppressed groups. Absolutely! How senseless to say, "Well, you're infringing on my 'right' to be a racist fuck!"
/r/MensRights02/12/12 07:39 AM

Ooh, pseudoscience AND bad grammar!? Marry me.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 07:24 AM

Socialized, not biological differences. Differences don't "seep into" social life, they come FROM social life. Our existence as social creatures. This seems patently obvious to me but perhaps there's more doubt than I realized...?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 01:37 AM

Here's the thing. You say Men's Rights isn't about hating women. Why, then, is it impossible to believe that a women's rights movement is not about hating men?
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:14 AM

Where do you folks get these ideas!?
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:46 AM

Thanks, I truly appreciate the apology, if not the ad hominem parting shot. :) I'm previliged because I live in a country where this kind of behavior is not the norm? Yes, exactly. it doens't correspond to my personal experience. Well it wouldn't, would it. An American woman has experiences a Scandinavian man does not. This is why I am trying to share my experiences. It's hard to engage in these discussions in good faith when I get this response. I'm not going to stop trying, and I'm not blaming…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:21 AM
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But it comes down to, "it squicks me out to have someone with the same junk touch my junk." Or, in your case, "I only want my junk touched for the purposes of sexytimes." That discomfort comes from the sexual connotations, no? And the comfort with your gf's hand comes from sexual connotations as well, no? I just don't get it. They're trained medical professionals; it's nothing new for them and it's not a sex act. What's to be insecure about?
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:11 AM
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How do obnoxious comments amount to censorship? Doesn't censorship require authoritarian intervention, like from the government? And laws? And penalties for disobedience? The great thing about free speech is that everyone gets to benefit from it. Disagreement and comment-sharing is the essence of free speech. Speech plus speech cannot possibly equal censorship, and as far as I can tell, Shit Reddit Says has passed no laws; what they do is repeat what other people say and comment on it. On the ot…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:01 AM
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How does someone making obnoxious comments amount to censorship? Doesn't censorship require authoritarian intervention, like from the government? And laws? And penalties for disobedience? Speech on top of speech does not equal censorship, and as far as I can tell, all Shit Reddit Says has passed no laws; what they seem to do is repeat what other people say and comment on it. On the other hand, maybe you meant "censure," in which case, disregard the above; opine away!
/r/MensRights28/11/12 01:48 AM

You say that like it'a bad thing. Are we supposed to wait for men to realize that there are problems, validate our concerns, and legitimize the campaign for women's rights?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 11:42 PM

Do you think I don't know this? The vast majority of people are not who I'm watching out for. It's the one creep on the train that ruins my day. The one date who won't let me leave. The one stranger blocking the exit. I'm trying to make the point that we women have to watch our backs constantly. Crossing streets, taking the bus, riding the subway; harassment happens all the time, and there's always the thought in the back of your mind, "this could get worse." And add to that the knowledge that m…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 10:25 PM

Not necessarily. Privilege is more complicated than "everybody wins some, everybody loses some." Being female is not a privilege. The things that may look like privilege to a man are not without complications, to put it mildly. Being socially "allowed" to wear men's or women's clothes while men are not afforded this freedom, for example, isn't evidence of women having MORE freedom; it's evidence that masculinity is valued more highly than femininity. Likewise, women win custody in American divor…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 10:15 PM
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Thanks! You can say the same of the MRM. If you call yourself part of a group, it's hard to take criticism of the group, or of other members of the group painted to look like the whole group, as anything but a personal attack. And sometimes it is. People are stupid.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 10:03 PM

False? No... Women continue to be subjected to violence for being women. How is it misandrist to observe this!? The only offensive way to hear that is if you think it's an accusation against ALL men, or against some immutable and essential masculinity.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:13 AM

That's not what privilege means. Privilege means unearned advantages. It does not mean preferring your group to any other. The word has a specific and well-defined meaning in sociological contexts (like a Men's Rights forum). You cannot redefine it to mean whatever supports your point.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:03 AM

That's not what that line is saying. "Sympathetic to or engaged in feminist politics" =/= female.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 03:49 AM

I honestly don't think it is a homophobia thing. ...I am heterosexual, and it reflects in who is allowed to handle my genitals You prefer to have a female touch your junk because you're straight. But it's got nothing to do with sexuality? It's not the same for women. Aside from the trite sexy-lesbian trope, there is a ton of encouragement for a woman to adopt "masculine" dress, postures, traits. No such rewards await men who dabble in female-identified clothes, speech patterns, or habits. Again,…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 03:39 AM

So legislation that protects all women's bodily autonomy is violating someone's right to be bigoted? Excuse me for not giving a shit. And legislation that outlaws hiring discrimination is bad because it limits employers' freedom to be racist and sexist? No thanks, I'm not buying it.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 03:28 AM

Women are violently discriminated against. Men are also killing and attacking each other in greater numbers. These are not mutually exclusive. Read what lastflowers wrote, not what you wish they wrote.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 03:14 AM
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we also shouldn't engage in this idea that "women should be better because men were for so long." If you don't want feminists to misrepresent the MRM, stop misrepresenting feminism. Apparently, your feeling that feminism is all about making women superior is a common one in this subreddit; there is no rational basis for making this claim. I personally have no problem with criticizing feminism. But I also understand that women face unique challenges that men have never had to worry about, and tha…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 03:03 AM
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Up there, women in general not being taken seriously is detrimental to their success, but down at the levels where most people work, it's a privilege. Tell it to a working mom. Tell it to any woman who has to support herself or her family. Perhaps the women you work with are unreliable, but that does not mean that all, or anywhere close to all women are getting a good deal out of being disregarded.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 03:00 AM
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Those are legitimate examples of discrimination at work. Teaching became associated with women in the mid twentieth century, and the decline in male teachers has been pronounced since then. It's not necessarily a causative relationship, but it's a strong correlation, and the same strong correlation pops up in other areas where women are prevalent. This is because "women's work" is a pejorative. This condition is limiting for both men and women; men cannot enter female-dominated professions witho…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:54 AM
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What does SRS stand for? Why do you find it objectionable? Shouldn't you welcome the dissemination of your own opinions and voices?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:47 AM

The choice to ignore that demonstrates an intent to imply by association that masculinity is toxic. In what way does that imply that masculinity is toxic? By your own definition of toxic masculinity, it is a specific kind of masculine-coded, dominating behavior. The need for the modifier "toxic" means that "toxic" isn't part of the word's definition.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:45 AM

The reason feminism is so quick to dismiss men's issues One cannot claim to know what "feminism" believes. If your issue is with specific women or men who have espoused these ideas, then say so. By identifying viewpoints you don't like with the entirety of the feminist movement, as though it were a mono-mind, you're begging the question of whether feminism has merit. Keep in mind that feminism, like the MRM, is a diverse political movement composed of many sub-groups and many individuals with di…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:41 AM
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"Scumbag MRA"?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:35 AM
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Isn't our perception of someone different from how we treat them? Perception determines treatment. So yes, they're different, but they are not separable. Is it really an attainable goal to attempt to change the way the human brain functions by telling us all not to categorize? The way the human brain functions does not excuse prejudice. The tendency to take shortcuts by forming mental categories neither explains nor excuses prejudice. "force" a society to think a certain way using solely laws No…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:34 AM

Health issues differ between sexes, yes. What "emotional and social requirements" are you referring to?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:16 AM

That's right. I'm a woman and I deal with these things every day. One issue you forgot is one of the biggest: the threat of sexual violence. You've named unwelcome sexual attention as a problem for women, which is absolutely accurate, but it goes deeper. If I walk alone at night, I'm holding my keys or pepper spray or a pocket knife, just in case. If I'm at a party, I'm watching my drink and I'm not taking rides from anyone I don't know. I take a buddy to the bathroom when I can (and then some g…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:15 AM
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I'm a feminist, and I believe in equality. Am I wrong about what I believe, or am I being disingenuous?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:05 AM

OK, I'm a female feminist and I say it's fine. Because if we're determining one man's right to call himself a feminist, then one woman's opinion is certainly relevant.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:04 AM

Islam = terrorism religion? Where's a RacismSniffingDog when you need one?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 01:53 AM
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The title? As far as I can see, that's the only thing you identified as being sexist. What other things?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 01:45 AM
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Yeah, I'm hard pressed to think of a society that modern anthropology considers to have been "ruled by women" in the way that modern society is ruled by men. Here's the thing: that's not the goal. Equality doesn't mean "taking our turn to oppress, harass, and punish the other sex/race/class." It means egalitarianism. It means you could swap places (and bodies) with any other member of society and not be any less happy. You're setting up a false binary when you say that the alternative to patriar…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:17 PM

Kind of hard to justify helping women. Hard to justify helping women. Oh dear...
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:59 PM

Well, it seems pretty obvious to me that removing traditional gender roles would be good for everyone. Ending domestic violence would be good for everyone. Ending rape culture would make fewer rape victims of both sexes. Getting people to think traditionally feminine stuff is ok would benefit a lot of gays, trans* folks, and all the straight men who don't really want to play football or who would rather raise kids than focus on work or who would rather have custody in a divorce. Is it bad for me…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:47 PM

I'm hearing this logic a lot: supporting men's rights means opposing the political movement called feminism. Am I hearing that correctly?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:34 PM
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I'm a woman... And you are totally right. We need to change the definition of masculinity so "manly" isn't synonymous with "violent."
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:23 PM

"The wrong message"? The message that women are abused disproportionately? I think you mean "the accurate but uncomfortable message."
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:20 AM
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Assuming we're talking about violent crime: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/2004-19429-001 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2376897/ you will like this one because it talks about female-to-male violence (but, spoilers, it concludes it's not a public health risk like the converse is) http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/gender.cfm http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/glance/tables/vsxtab.cfm http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:16 AM

Most victims of violence are male; most perpetrators of violence are male. Most violence against men is done by men, is what that means. Does that make sense? Seems like you are being rude but maybe I was not clear.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:04 AM

Well that's kinda fucked up!
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:59 AM
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Crappy analogy. A long term relationship doesn't destroy you. At least, a dedicated relationship has the potential to fulfill and uplift you, to make you feel secure and comforted, to enrich your life in unexpected ways. A fifth of vodka can't drive you to the hospital or surprise you with tickets or make you feel as good when you wake up as when you went to bed (although a fat blunt comes closer).
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:44 AM
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Yes. This premarital agreement discussion is more for those of us who can't trust as deeply and innocently as some. Perhaps we're suspicious assholes; perhaps we're just used to expecting the worst; maybe we've been burned before by someone we loved. Or maybe we're just not romantic. I married someone I trust, but this was still a huge issue because of our current income difference. Honestly, the prenup only matters if one of you has huge assets to protect; my honey and I did not. Still, it made…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:39 AM
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"Undocumented money" = grounds for a judge to throw out a premarital agreement. Undeclared assets of any kind will invalidate the contract.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:35 AM

Racist.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:34 AM
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Not just if the woman was pressured into signing. Either party can be pressured. One of the best ways to avoid looking coercive is to write and review the agreement (with each party's separate lawyer) several months before the wedding date. Six months would be overkill, perhaps--I've heard three to four months is plenty--but it certainly can't hurt.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:31 AM
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This is fairly accurate as far as the legal validity of premarital agreements. I got one before my marriage (in CA) and thus read a good chunk of the California Family Code. A divorce, along with its concomitant awards, is a judge's ruling, not an "undo" button. The judge gets to decide how the couple's assets will be split in the event of dissolution of marriage. Many judges are aware that women still earn less than men, on average, and that women are disproportionately victims of abuse and coe…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:23 AM
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Oh my god, I'm so sorry! That is so sad. She obviously had a lot of issues. Are you doing better? What did you do to recover? To help yourself? I was raped and my dad told me the same thing when I finally opened up. You didn't fight back, so you must have wanted it. Never mind that we are often socialized to be gentle, to be passive, to suffer like it's a virtue. I am so sorry. I offer you hugs, if you are into that. Edit: I know I'm not really answering your question, but my heart goes out to y…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:09 AM
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Do MRAs ever claim to fight for women's rights, as feminists do for men's rights?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:59 AM

First point: to reiterate, there have been matriarchies. The "incredible degree of equivocation" only applies to the distinction between patriarchies in which men hold all the power, and patriarchies in which men hold the majority of power. Second point: see first point. Also, false equivalence. Also, just because a non-patriarchy does not currently exists does not mean that it's impossible to make statements about such a social structure or to evaluate its properties. There are valid criticisms…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:47 AM
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This is misogynist.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 12:43 AM

That's because most perpetrators of violence are male.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 12:39 AM
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Yeah. Women get everything handed to them. We men are expected to work for what we have. The whole system is stacked against men. Sexism.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 12:37 AM

Yes! I'm with you except for the sexism part. (Sexism relies on a power gradient; men have more cultural capital and power; thus you can be prejudiced against men but not sexist. A minor semantic quibble but important nonetheless, because we all wear shackles with our gender on them, and the key to unlocking them is to face the reality that women are at the bottom of the pile.)
/r/MensRights26/11/12 12:19 AM

YES. Thank you for saying this. Both are awful; reputable research shows that FGM is "worse" for the women who've endured it. That's in health terms alone, entirely aside from issues of sexism.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 12:16 AM

Agreed. As a woman, I usually get my hackles up when people talk about how awful circumcision is, because FGM actually IS worse than circumciscion and is also a symptom of sexism in the world. The reason I assume many folks point this out is that much of the time, you hear stuff like, "well they're equally bad." Yeah, it is horrible. To alter the body of a non-consenting person is wrong in any context.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:44 PM
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Female does not equal woman-loving. Growing up, I believed a lot of religious dogma about how women should be subordinate to their husbands, how abortions should be illegal because women should suffer the consequences of extramarital sex, etc. Just my thoughts. In a culture with such rigidly enforced gender roles, it's hard NOT to think less of women in certain ways, even if it feels like concern or respect. For example, the belief that women are more nurturing sounds, on its surface, like prais…
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:30 PM
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What would it look like to have a men's center that is a safe space for men? What does that mean to you, /MR?
/r/MensRights23/11/12 10:04 PM
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