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deliberatemistake/r/MGTOW15/11/17 07:24 AM
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Islam is just another tool of control, and a poorly constructed and calibrated one, at that. Anybody who's willing to give up their autonomy for some perceived advantage in the dating pool is an idiot and not worth your time or energy.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 03:57 AM
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Alright, I went back and looked at these previous submissions of yours, and I think I can tell you why you're being downvoted (which I didn't do, btw): "Why Atheism is a Belief System": a) Is extremely lengthy - nobody got time to read all that b) Has absolutely NOTHING to do with MGTOW. It's a meandering essay about the philosophy of beliefs and why people tend to influenced in those beliefs by the social circles they're in. It doesn't address any of the issues between men and women today, it d…
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 10:27 PM
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I like how, at about 4/5 of the way through the article, Heather (the writer) drops all pretense of the article being a thoughtful dissemination of the possible consequences of the #METOO movement and just straight starts lecturing men about what they're doing wrong by all the wymminz and how much they need to get it right because "the future of the human race is at stake". This is EXACTLY what you guys are always talking about with the shame tactics. They couldn't give two shits about the male …
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 09:59 PM
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You talk about 'the decline of my culture' and to that I say: WHAT culture? I HAVE no culture. I'm 34 I've spent my entire life being told that white males are the root of all evil - do you really think that I have ANY idea who my ancestors are or what their beliefs and values or traditions were? Society has done it's damnedest to make sure I didn't. My own specific heritage is German / English... I may as well be Satan himself, as far as most mainstream media is concerned. You said it yourself …
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 11:51 PM
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I feel like Krusty the Clown after he watches that 'Worker and Parasite' cartoon from Eastern Europe. "...The Hell was that?!"
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 10:14 PM
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My mother was never a violent woman - my year 2 teacher, Mrs Fagan, on the other hand, was a totally different story. Bitch beat me up for a regular basis for about 9 months straight. Keep in mind, I was a seven year old child in a public Queensland School (the years would have been 1989/1990; the school was New Farm State School. You can check all of this if you want). I remember vividly getting the crap kicked out of me because I couldn't figure out how to carry the one in Math. Punching me, s…
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 12:07 AM
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Movements don't necessarily need leaders to form or continue to exist. They usually start with a 'patient zero' of sorts, but at the end of the day even THAT person becomes irrelevant. If anything, they become stronger by not having a leader or figurehead since it allows each member to have their own parameters regarding their participation (hence why Feminism and Christianity both have been so successful). As for idealogical requirements, well, we've already established that: it's to prioritize…
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 12:32 AM
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It's definitely okay to be white; kind of having a chuckle to myself over here at how many commenters think I'm trying to insinuate that it's NOT okay to be white (to whit: I don't think the signs are stupid because it's NOT okay to be white, I think the signs are stupid because it's a complete and utter non-issue and nobody should be getting upset over such an innocent statement).
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:19 PM
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Ah, now we get down to the nitty-gritty of it, don't we? ...At what point does philosophy BECOME a movement? I would argue that it does so once that idea has built a certain degree of momentum within the sphere of public consciousness; in other words, when enough people in society accept something as a societal norm. Has this MGTOW subreddit NOT seen a massive spike in followers since the beginning of this year? Have we NOT seen others like WGTOW popping up, too? Have we NOT seen more and more d…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:11 PM
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And that would be the same reason people hate Feminists / SJWs too, I presume? Because they spend most of their time on subreddits like 2XC and SRS bitching about how horrible teh menz are, right? Well, at least society is consistent. ;)
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:58 PM
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I think you've got that mixed up - the general expression is: "(Here's what I want you to hear) BUT (here's what I really mean)." ...Everything BEFORE the 'but' is usually a lie, not the other way around.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:33 PM
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Can I concede that MGTOW might actually have some valid points WITHOUT being part of the movement? And if the answer to that is 'no', do you EVER hope for MGTOW to become accepted as part of mainstream society? Because it kind of sounds like you don't want that. And that's confusing to me, not gonna lie. I don't think the answer is for MGTOW to grow as an underground movement (although I think you guys should definitely keep doing that); I think the answer is for the positive qualities of MGTOW …
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:23 PM
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The 'end game' is to justify behavior that would otherwise not be justifiable in Western society. That's seriously all it is. "Nobody is allowed to tell me that I'm wrong or out of line for doing this because I FEEL like I'm under attack and when I FEEL like I'm under attack, I'm justified to take action to defend myself." Without bringing race into it too much, this is a mentality that I've encountered in people of color more than white people. That's all I will say about that.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:11 PM
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Yeah, but the problem is that same distance also make it very easy for me to forget that I'm not that much better than any of the people who I'm studying from afar. I admit, I'm guilty of that. I can be far too judgemental of others, especially if I don't really understand their motives or intent. It's something I try not to do, especially when it comes to Lefties, but I still struggle with it.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:04 PM
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Yeah, see, that one doesn't add up, either. Incels tried brigading this place recently and MGTOWs told them to fuck right off. They weren't even semi-polite about it. And what's more, there were news articles ABOUT MGTOWs rejecting Incels from this subreddit. So people are AWARE that MGTOWs don't get along with Incels... they just choose to conflate the two groups because it's easier to hate on them that way. It just pisses me off when we have clear evidence that violates the narrative here... a…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 09:54 PM
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Yes, it's particularly ludicrous because there is an actual 4Chan thread that we can point to which started this all, and that thread unequivocally states: "We did this because we wanted to see how much the Left would get their panties in a bunch over it. It has nothing to with hate. At all." And what was the reaction from the Left? Left: "OMG, the hidden context of these signs is white supremacy!" Everyone else: "Uh... no, actually it was just a prank, we have an actual confession and ever-" Le…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 09:50 PM
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Nothing personal but I really don't understand what it is you're even griping about here, dude. It SOUNDS like you're another one of these 'we gotta protect the white race' idiots, and if that's the case, I got some bad news for you, brother: white people have been under threat of being out-bred by everyone else since well before you were even born. No, I don't hate myself because I'm white, but I also don't see any reason to be proud of being white either. It's not like I had any choice in the …
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 09:44 PM
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I'll agree with you on one thing: generally, imo, men are expected to put more effort into contributing to society before they're given the entitlements that would be afforded women whereas women tend to be given those entitlements in advance (which, given that they're physically weaker than men most of the time, doesn't seem completely unrealistic to me). I guess I'm just not bitter or resentful toward women because I never really invested in society. Like, at all. I pretty much gave up contrib…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 09:31 PM
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I think it's really a question of balance, isn't it? There's absolutely nothing wrong with men and women having standards of their own - provided that it's not at the expense of ALL other qualities that the person might have, right? I mean, nobody, man or woman, likes feeling like they're being used and not valued for who they really are. And yes, I tend to agree that society has far too many expectations of men while having far too few of women these days. I tend to think it's reasonable for me…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 12:59 PM
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You make an excellent point about people not wanting to feel wrong about their own decisions. I think another reason people find MGTOW so threatening is the 'silence factor' - it was something that really freaked ME out about MGTOW, I admit. Basically, the fact that MGTOWs were so quiet while being criticized by every other outlet of the media/Internet made me suspicious of them and I'm sure it does for a lot of other people, too. They see a community being accused of horrible things like misogy…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 12:38 PM
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That's a theory that someone else posited to me on Steam - the argument was that men have always been somewhat beholden to women in terms of providing both resources and security. Since women have more or less abandoned men and adopted the government as their primary source of resources and security in the last few generations, the theory goes that women have become neurotic and unable to cope with life in general without the sense that they have the physical strength of a man by their side to k…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 12:25 PM
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I get the feeling like you didn't really comprehend my comment - I was giving more of a 'Devil's Advocate' perspective on why people feel the need to obsess over the words and actions of others on the Internet. I don't personally feel that way myself. ...I actually don't have any accounts on Facebook or any other social media. I didn't even have a Reddit account until a few months ago.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 12:02 PM
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*lose
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:51 AM
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No, quite the contrary - I think it's PERFECTLY okay to be white, and I have no idea how anybody would possibly interpret it as otherwise. I've never seen a more innocuous statement in my life - and that's my point: why would anyone become upset about a statement so trivial? The answer: Because the implication that white people might actually face some sort of adversity in ANY fashion challenges the narrative that people of color are the ULTIMATE victims. Absolutely ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:42 AM
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Ugh, fuck TRP. I have no time or tolerance for that old-world caveman bullshit. Just because I don't fall in line with the Feminists/SJWs, does NOT mean I'm okay with the idea that women are some commodity to be used up when men need a sexual release. TRP is a lifestyle based on ego and hedonism which opens the subject up to untold liabilities. MGTOW is a pragmatic decision driven by logic and reason, made specifically to LIMIT liabilities. I know which one I'd choose.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:38 AM
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Ah yes, that New Zealand financial study of tax deficit by gender over lifetime? Yes, I read all about that one also. Like I said - I have A LOT of spare time on my hands. I was SUPER pissed about that one, LOL. It's ironic that I would have considered myself to be something of a Feminist advocate once upon a time... but the more I read of all these studies and reports, the more I'm convinced that I was the subject of indoctrination. Seriously, I was being told about the 'Wage Gap' when I was in…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:29 AM
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Yeah, that one REALLY didn't sit well with me when I first started looking into this a little while back. If you sit down and compare like-industry with like-industry, what happens? Suddenly the 'Wage Gap' virtually disappears. Hell, it doesn't just virtually disappear - there are figures that show single women in their 20s are out-earning single-men in their 20s in the same profession. And I didn't know any of this until I actually sat down and read through the stats. Keep in mind, this 'Wage G…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:01 AM
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Yeah, yeah, I know it's patronizing but it's not so much that I feel bad for MGTOWs; it's more the fact that I've been lied to about MGTOW so much by the media and the Internet in general. That's what really pisses me off more than anything. Like, I was a completely neutral party - was it really necessary to run a campaign of misinformation against ME when I probably would have been more than willing to buy most of the bad shit they were saying about MGTOW to begin with? Like, I'm not a genius b…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:40 AM
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To be fair, I'm not an island - I rely on my mother to help out with the bills sometimes and I also receive a little bit of wage assistance from the government each fortnight. So for me to act like I'm some big bad MGTOW and completely in charge of my own destiny would be just flat-out untruthful. I AM a loser but like I said, I have my health problems to worry about so I honestly wouldn't be in the running for the whole dating game anyway.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:30 AM
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I believe there's an old expression in legal/law enforcement circles: "Cui Bono?" ("Who benefits?") Yes, that's EXACTLY the mentality that made me think something was fishy to begin with. The motivations and reasons for the complaints against MRAs / MGTOWs just didn't make any sense when you actually sat down and analyzed them (eg. "MGTOWs just hate women" - well, if that's the case then why did r/MGTOW recently reject the influx of Incels? That's not the behavior of a group of people who active…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:20 AM
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I guess that's kind of a symptom of the modern age, though, isn't it? We've got the Internet in our face 24/7, we have social media and Youtube making it impossible to NOT see what everyone else is doing at all times. Even if you are the sort of person who tends to not cast judgement, it's difficult to not feel compelled to make some sort of commentary simply because being heard by so many people is so alluring. I honestly think that's got a lot with the political climate atm - I think a lot of …
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 10:07 AM
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Because I'm the modern-day equivalent of that angry hermit who wants nothing to do with society and basically just wants to be left alone to die in his cave. By most of society's standards, that makes me a loser and I'm perfectly okay with that. With no power comes no responsibility. I have very few possessions, no real friends, no partner or children, I don't have a 'real' job and I live with my mother to save money. I'm pretty much EXACTLY what Feminists are talking about when they describe th…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 09:51 AM
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I personally don't have a problem with women being attracted to a man's wealth. I think that's a natural instinct that they've developed over millions of years of evolution in order to ensure their children are well-catered-to. That's a good reason why most MGTOWs probably wouldn't accept me as one of their own. But at the same time, I do think we've gone a little too far as a society when it comes to rewarding those 'hypergamous' instincts (as you call them) and it's gotten to the point where g…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 08:51 AM
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I confess that I'm something of a loser so I have a lot of time to sit and read numbers and statistics and reports, so I guess it's a lot easier for me to see there's a discrepancy in the attitudes and the actual statistics. But I was still genuinely surprised and disappointed by those interviews with Cassie here in Australia. All politics aside, it was just shameful that she wasn't being given a fair go. I thought we were above that crap here. We gave fucking Chopper Read a fairer and more impa…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 08:37 AM
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Yes, that's something I recently learned too. According to some of the reports I read, that final 3-5% can be accounted for (they think) by men asking for raises more often than women do. Though I'm sure there are those who would tell me those sources can be discounted for various reasons as well. And if major media outlets can run with a false narrative like that one for as long as they did, what else could they be lying about? I'm not alone in thinking this, apparently about 65 percent of Amer…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 08:28 AM
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See, the funny part is that I don't necessarily agree with you. I've never taken an IQ test but I'm pretty certain I wouldn't sit any higher than average intelligence - that's why it's so baffling to me that people are willing to buy all this crapola about MGTOW. If someone as average as me can see very plainly that there's misinformation going on here, I'm inclined to think that there's probably a good percentage of the population that's in the same boat but isn't saying anything for fear of th…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 08:10 AM
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Yeah, I guess you're right but... most of these women willingly admit they would never have anything to do with MGTOWs to begin with... so why do they even care in the first place? I mean, take this latest nonsense, right: there have been all these articles about 'where have all the good men gone' in the Guardian and HuffPo and all that. Well, the main quality women judge men by is their FINANCES and how much money they make, right? Well, aren't we also hearing all about the WAGE GAP all the tim…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 07:40 AM
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