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Guys 1 and 4 could get laid pretty often if they wanted to. Im gonna say guy 1 because the doc might be too busy to go out all the time. But they could both clean up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:50 AM
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In what ways do you think its different? I'm curious because Ive never been to the US. I feel like there's a lot of casual sex in the UK but thats probably because I hang around with young, single, well off, sociable type people so its biased. There is defiantly a culture of slut shaming though at least where I am from. I agree with some aspects of TRP but really disagree with others which is why I'm purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 08:11 PM
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I think I do fit into that demographic although some of the guys Ive slept with didnt fit into that demographic. All my college hookups were drunk and with athletes though - but Im from the UK so don't know if that makes a diff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 05:14 PM
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Have you ever had a one night stand before? Yes Have you ever had a fuckbuddy, friends with benefits, or purely sexual relationship? Yes, longest was about 2 years on and off. In college, did you belong to a social sorority? Don't have them in the UK, but I would have if I was in the US. Have you ever hooked up with someone at a party in college before? Yes Have you ever had sex while drunk? God yes Have you ever dated or had sex with a gym bro, or fairly muscular guy? Yes Have you ever dated a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 05:12 PM
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1.Purple 2.When I'm single, yes. 3. Yeah maybe 7 or so 4. yes i go regularly 5. yes 6. once or twice but not my thing 7. Maybe two hours 8. Sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 10:41 AM
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Absolutely. Its taken me a while to realise that I need to fancy the pants off the guy for a relationship to work. In the past I though it was shallow to base a whole relationship on that 'chemistry' rather than going for guys who were ideal on paper. I've promised myself not to go there again though - the sex was bad, conversations didnt go anywhere and it overall wasn't worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 11:14 PM
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They're not religious, never got round to it, I think they'd both consider it a waste of money seeing as they are so clearly committed in other ways. I don't think it's unusual to wan to put off having kids for a few years when you're 22. There are things I want to do like establish my career, own a property, live abroad etc before I have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 10:29 PM
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I didn't mean to be glib about it, but in the past thats kind of how its been with me and my exes. It's never been a case of me cheating on them or breaking up with them in a horrible way. Once I moved out of the country, another time the guy did (neither of us wanted a long term relationship in both instances), one guy cheated on me (we both got over it, but he did a lot faster obviously) etc. So in my experience the guys had a similar attitude to relationships as I did, which probably comes do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 10:15 PM
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I realise that, but the question was about about what my worst trait was in relationships, not about it's effect on other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:59 PM
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I'm just not ready to have children, emotionally, financially, practically etc. For me it would be irresponsible to have children unless I knew i could give them a comfortable and stable upbringing, which I think I can do better in my late twenties/early thirties. In terms of marriage, my parents aren't married although they've been together 30 years, have 3 kids and live together. So the whole big white wedding thing hasn't been ingrained into me. I would probably accept if the love of my life …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:58 PM
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Im in a relationship actually but no idea if it'll be long term - it's been about 7 months so far :) but in the past I was never looking for a LTR. (I'm 22 btw). I always thought settling down with your high school sweetheart was bit lame, although as I get older i guess i see some of the benefits. Anyway that's beside the point. Marriage isn't that important to me, but I definitely want children and a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:11 PM
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Um I think I have a lot of options, and a handful of guys at a time who I'm sure i could have a good relationship with, but i'm not that motivated to be in a LTR most of the time. That lack of motivation comes from the fact I can get a lot of the same benefits (companionship, validation, emotional support, sex) without having to be in a LTR. Thats what I mean by saying its easy to break up due to small incompatibilities if the relationship isn't changing your life in any fundamental way anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 08:25 PM
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I think I grew up thinking it was health to have friendships and interests and a life beyond your romantic relationships which of course it is. However this way of thinking can make it easy to break up over small incompatibilities. I don't really know what you mean in terms of easy to find men I want to date. I'm quite picky when it comes to who I say yes to (for a relationship), but at the same time i don't believe in 'the one'. So I'm never that cut up over a break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 07:44 PM
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Not caring enough about the guy. I can pretty much always take them or leave them, and I know we'll both get over it if we never see each other again. Guess its a type of apathy, but it leads to never working through problems and issues in relationships: instead its all too easy to just call it a day at the first argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 07:08 PM
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I wouldn't over think it, because there's a good chance he's nervous or there hasn't been an opportunity for it, so as long as the conversation was easy and I was attracted to the guy I would go on seeing him. However in the past Ive found that not kissing in the first few dates at least has been a marker of us not being sexually compatible. In the future I'm looking for a relationship with that near instant sexual spark
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 01:51 PM
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ditto
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 10:57 PM
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I know one male virgin my age, and I'm 22. In terms of incel if you just mean single guys who can't get laid very often then yeah I know loads. I think this is one of those thing which is utterly dependant on your social circle and it would be a mistake to extrapolate the experiences of your aquaintances to society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 11:03 PM
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No guy I've slept with has ever asked me my 'number' , the only thing they've asked is if I've had anal which I guess is testing the waters to see if Im up for it. Platonic guy friends have asked how many guys Ive slept with, but the actual guys Ive been with have never brought it up for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 11:18 PM
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Because being in an abusive relationship with someone you love or think you love messes with your head. I think this is a separate topic really. Hardly anyone would keep seeing someone who beat them up on the first date but if you've got strong feelings for them then it gets complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:42 PM
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I guess I don't see poking fun at others as part of being cocky although I guess it can be. Cocky to me is more being focused on yourself compared to others. And again I say this as someone ho like cocky guys! The Chris Brown thing to me is kind of like when thirst guys comment on Beyonce videos saying they'd crawl through broken glass to sniff her farts or whatever. Its not serious and I dont think its a big deal although it is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:14 PM
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I see being cocky as just having a high opinion of yourself, not necessarily having a low opinion of me. But I definitely lim guys who are cocky in the sense that they're loud, sociable, confident, talk themselves up etc (within reason). I like to think I wouldnt stay with anyone who was violent to you but thats what being in an abusive relationship can do unfortunately. Thats kind of a separate issue though - physical violence in an established relationship versus being rude and mean when you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:34 PM
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Most importnat to me is sexual attraction ( which isn't always who's the most objectively good looking, more just chemistry) and easy conversation. Physically I like tall built fat guys, beards, chest hair, dark hair. Someone who's interested in lots of different things, but doesn't lecture me. Someone with goals and drive, someone kind, sociable, confident
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:13 PM
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Its nothing to do with if the sex is casual or not - its just no one really wants to have shitty sex where the other person dissent care about your pleasure, whether from a prostitute or a ' any hole is a goal' type guy. Actually men are more likely to have pleasurable sex with a prostitute "(at least she will know what she's doing2) than women are with some random low SMV hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 11:59 PM
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If I asked every guy I know it would take about a month… seriously who could be arced with this. In college I lived with four guys for a year. The three single guys, one got laid about twice a month, one got laid three times in the year and one never got laid. The one who got laid the most was the least attractive, to me maybe a 5 or a 6 /10
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:50 PM
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Same! I hate hate hate veins, they make me feel queasy. i couldn't touch a popping vein like that - i feel like they're going to burst or something. What a weird phobia we have haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 03:17 PM
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Not even the cuddliest, just looks the most masculine to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 07:56 PM
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My type would be the third from the left
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 06:07 PM
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I can't believe you don't see that the girl in the picture probably works very hard on her appearance. Smooth toned thighs like that don't just appear
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 10:13 PM
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This correlates with what Ive seen in my own experience of 18 - 22 year old guys. A few guys get laid with dozens of different women a year, n count >50. This is down to above average ( but not gorgeous) looks and most importantly the amount tot time and effort they put into pulling. Vast majority of single guys have one or two ONS a year. Are frustrated with this number Very few have no sex, ever. I only know one virigin over 20, but obviously this is skewed towards guys who are already relativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 07:52 PM
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I don't think talking about sex makes it more likely I'd consider him as boyfriend/hookup material. I have conversations about sex generally with platonic guy friends, and it doesn't change the way I feel about them. I think it depends how the conversation comes about; if the guy can be mature and normal talking about sex or whether he is creepy, overexcited and pushes the boundaries of what I feel comfortable with ( i.e. gets too personal) the other examples like being physically forward, makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:36 AM
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personally i prefer guys with chest hair than without ,but I'm sure loads of women are the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:09 PM
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I prefer body hair on men, especially chest because I find it masculine, i like touching it etc. The thought of a guy waxing or shaving his body is a turnoff to me - it kind of seems girly and vain. Trimming etc is fine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 09:00 PM
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Id prefer a guy be taller than me but i don't find 6ft more attractive than 5'9 for example. I dated a guy my height (about 5'7) and have never been attracted to anyone shorter
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:55 PM
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he's really hot...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 12:34 PM
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Haha just give me your number and validate my attractiveness ;) Also sometimes it isn't directed at anyone in particular, its just generally thrown out there
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 08:51 PM
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Yes definitely. I do stuff like play with my hair, stretch, bite my lip, catch his eye etc if I want a guy to come over and talk to me. Just try and look good basically. But I'm one of those girls you hate who would never ask a guy out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 08:21 PM
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I think its just been a part of life for so long you forget its there. Its like asking how does it feel that there are cars on the road, its not something I ever think about really
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 09:53 PM
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Yeah, but only whilst bar tending so they handed me their number with a little note. One guy wrote me a whole side of A4 though. I think I only responded to 1, we texted for a while then fizzled out. But I didnt reject them because of the note, I wouldnt have been into them however they asked me out. Edit: also just remembered a random guy sending me notes in the library when i was trying to write my dissertation. That was seriously annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 12:10 AM
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because clubs are fun despite those little annoyances. Its really not that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:55 PM
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are you ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:53 PM
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You know theres a lot between the two extremes of only having sex in serious relationships and unprotected threesomes right? The one night stands I've had were just two people, using protection, some conversation, some orgasms, some breakfast, perfectly nice. I didn't give anything of myself away, neither did they. It doesn't have to be as dramatic as you make out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:44 PM
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Are you single? Yes What do you look for in a man? Interesting, outgoing, good conversation, kind, sociable, physically attractive (usually for me - dark hair, on the bigger side, beard) Do you think men should pay for the Check when out on a date with you? No I always offer, but actually a guy has never let me pay on the first couple of dates. Do you like chivalrous men? Do you believe in chivalry? Would you like it if a man opened the door for you, lent you his jacket? Don't know if I would ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:52 AM
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Why would they? not like it does anything for them
/r/askTRP25/03/16 04:23 PM
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Neither of them are hot. Both maybe 5/10 imo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 08:11 PM
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Only if they're significant outliers one way or another. Usually its just like 'was it good', 'yeah' or 'nah a bit boring', unless he did something weird/funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 07:32 PM
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1 would be the worst, closely followed by 2 and 3 I wouldn't care about at all. A guy being a virgin at 24 would probably be a deal breaker for me, because I don't want to be anyones first, and it would probably symbolise us having very different lifestyles and personalities. Im usually attracted to social, extroverted 'laddish' guys, which I don't think a 24 year old virgin would fit into.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:26 PM
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Thats what I mean. So you can't judge ugly women for doing exactly what you would do in their situation, despite the fact you feel this harms your acting prospects in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:43 PM
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Seriously, if a hot model came up to you at a bar and was like 'i really want to fuck you right now, come lets leave I'll pay for a cab' you'd turn her down in order to stay in your league? You'd think nah Ill wait around for the fat ugly girl in the corner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:24 PM
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Within that range (basically 1-a lot) it doesn't make any difference at all to me. Ive never known how many girls any of my exes had slept with, beyond knowing they weren't virgins. Maybe its a girl thing but I truly don't care within that range
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 11:16 PM
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Im 22, wouldn't date a virgin and there probably is an upper limit too although Im not quite sure what that would be. So anything from 1-maybe 100? would be fine by me, also I wouldn't want to know the exact number
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 10:43 PM
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I did i because I assumed he was gay as we were out with girls and other gay guys. That was the misunderstanding
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 07:50 PM
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Don't think Ive ever flirted with someone who was oblivious, but I get accused of flirting a llll the time - apparently I make guys feel like Im their girlfriend because I care about them (which I feel is bullshit). Never by my close guy friends though, thats more customers and acquaintances. I think some of it is me being naturally flirtatious and outgoing, and some is wishful thinking on their part. Ive been oblivious to guys liking me, but don't know if they were actually flirting. Once I rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:36 PM
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no i see no appeal to fucking a virgin guy. I associate viriginity with awkward bad sex so don't want to repeat that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:21 AM
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The most beautiful girl I know - she is honestly otherworldly - dated an ugly criminal who broke her arm. i have no idea what she was doing, now she's dating a rich semi ex sportsman who also has criminal ties. But she is an outlier, and I agree that most attractive people go for other attractive, ambitious people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 04:04 PM
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probably depends where you are. Ive noticed that older guys buy drinks more - probably more old fashioned and more money - and also that its kind of a working class thing. And yeah my friends and I definatley fished for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 10:43 PM
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Nah Im from the UK, its pretty common for guys to buy drinks for girls as a way to start chatting them up. When I was younger i really used to take advantage of it, and Id go out a couple of times a week and only have to pay for one or two drinks (to be fair to me I was single, but Im still kind of embarrassed looking back).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 09:51 PM
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I think the way men and women fantasise is a major gender difference. For example in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/2oxg76/ladies_do_you_ever_masturbate_to_any_of_your_male/? women are saying they masturbate either thinking of nothing or just a faceless generic guy. Its a very different fantasy from the reality of having sex most of the time. So a lot of women don't have to fantasise in the male sense to masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 11:18 PM
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I think its whatever you personally define as sex. Im a straight woman and considered myself a virgin until I had PiV, so oral doesn't count as sex to me (Although I didnt give or receive oral until about a year later). I consider homosexual sex to be 'sex', although the same acts between a man and woman (oral, fingering etc), wouldn't count as 'sex' to me. Which I realise is paradoxical. But basically sex is whatever you consider it to be, and you'll probably feel like a virgin until you experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 03:49 PM
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I mean guys will pretty much always offer but then I decide if I want to accept depending on whether Id rather talk to my friends or the guy in question, and whether he seems fun or annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 07:45 AM
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I mean, I dont have to buy drinks on a night out, but is that really such a big deal? No ones ever offered to pay my RENT or anything that actually matters. The benefits of being an attractive woman in my experience are quite superficial e.g. getting casual work, free drinks, free entry into nightclubs etc. Nothing life changing, although id love to know how Im meant to find guys to pay my bills every month
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 12:05 AM
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Idk that does sound a lot like how I behave with my clossetst friends (late night texting, making plans for trips, deep conversations, touching etc), and I wouldn't necessarily consider it flirting if we were already friends. However i understand how it would be confusing if you had feelings for her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 09:01 AM
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Ive said something along those lines to loads of my friends and acquaintances, male and female. Saying 'you'll make someone very happy one day', 'you'll be a great husband' even jokingly 'I'd marry!', is just a way of saying they're a great person in my eyes. Its just a compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 08:57 AM
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Fine, but every girl at the party who wearing revealing clothing wasn't making out with you, which is the point. Anyway what are you meant to wear to party if it snot revealing some part of your body? As a girl who would probably wear something revealing on a night out - depending on what you define as revealing - some of the reasons could be: I like this top, couldn't find the skirt I wanted to wear so wore this one, havent done laundry in a while so it'll have to be this outfit, want to fit in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 03:52 PM
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What makes her less likely to get divorced (=/= successful marriage ) is that she's more likely to be a religious conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 11:10 PM
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Probably because most women who marry as virgins in this day and age are very religious, and so aren't supporters of divorce. Which is fine if thats what your into, but its not the fact she's a virgin that makes her marriage successful, its the reason why she's a virgin which decrease the likelihood of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:46 PM
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Nah I wouldn't say so, unless you keep pushing after I've said no. Maybe Id be frightened if we were on a dark street and you grabbed me and tried to kiss me against a wall or something, but still wouldn't consider it assault whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:15 PM
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I don't think its that complicated. Guys hollering from cars or grabbing my arse at work = bad, harassment. Chat to a guy at a party or wherever, he asks me on a date = good, not harassment, he gets a date if Im into him. Just don't be a douche about it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:00 PM
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How exhausting is going to dinner, even if you feel like you have to pick the restaurant or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 04:41 PM
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bitter much?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 10:22 AM
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Most of them and none. Doubt many of them remember because its not really shocking enough to be interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:56 AM
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Casual - No , Yes, Yes, Depends on crime and how much I feel it endangers me LTR - No, No, No, Probably not unless very minor crime
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:18 PM
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Ive never been asked how many guys I've slept with, and none of my friends have ever mentioned it, except my best friends ex asked her for a written list (first names and surnames lol) But if a guy asked me and seemed really serious about it Id be honest - but I think it would point at us being incompatible if he's religious or very conservative or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 01:31 AM
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Both these scenarios are ridiculously implausible
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 09:39 PM
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I doubt my exes were sneaking around messaging my best friends about my sex life. But yeah maybe. So is it important for you to know a girls N count in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 08:27 PM
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Oh yeah I've talked about it with friends (male and female), and I probably know how many people most of them have slept with. Just no guy Ive ever been with has asked or even hinted at the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 08:18 PM
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Actually Ive never been asked by a boyfriend either - Id find that a bizarre question. My exes and I would talk about past relationships because they're important in figuring out what you want romantically/sexually, but actual N count never came up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:57 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 02:58 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2pi13t/get_to_the_top_20_lurkers_and_new_rp_men_your/? https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/22j0q8/do_we_women_hold_men_to_impossible_standards_that/? https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3w5fwd/the_cycle/? https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2xlt5y/promiscuous_women_and_narcissism/? https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2yap1x/want_better_women_stop_feeding_the_beast_of/? https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 12:18 AM
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Attraction isn't negotiable for women either, yet there are countless complaints about female standards being "too high"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 11:59 PM
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The guys I livd with in college were always like 'get over yourself, you're such a crybaby' etc when I had cramps. It wasn't malicious and it didnt really bother me, but people do say this kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 10:55 PM
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Just getting sex doesn't mean anything to a woman in this scenario - its demeaning, not validating and quite likely to make her feel worse than she did before. You can be lonely after a ONS, especially if they treat you like a bag of meat and leave straight after they cum
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 10:48 PM
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I don't think he's that hot. Id say they're both a 6/10, but she has loads of hair and makeup so naturally she's probably lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:18 AM
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its two sides of the same coin: a lot of men have no standards or very low standards, a lot of women have much higher ones. neither is better or healthier than the other, but they are incompatible
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:17 AM
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Thats the point, life isn't a lab where you can avoid all risks and get the outcome you want every time. Sometimes we wish it was more scientific so we knew exactly what to do to get the results we want. But it doesn't work like that, especially relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:47 PM
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How would I know, the best type of woman he can get is the best woman who'll agree to fuck him, date him whatever. Hit on some fat women hit on some skinny women, see what happens and report back
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:43 PM
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Sure the first guy is hotter so she's more likely to fuck him (if we take it as a given they both want to fuck her). So she has the choice which guy to fuck depending on their looks. But you;re asking what kind of women will want to fuck you , and we don't know what you look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:33 PM
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I didn't make the first claim. I was just explaining why womens healthy body fat levels are higher than mens - to feed a fetus, and as reserves during famine . For example, thats why male bodybuilders can go down to 3% body fat for competitions, whilst women can't healthily go below 10% or so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:28 PM
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Seriously though, how are we meant to know if skinny or fat women are more likely to fuck this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:17 PM
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Fat in normal healthy women represents between 18% and 20% of body weight, whereas in men it represents only 10% to 15%. The reason for this difference is that women at some point in their lives may nourish a fetus and then a baby from their own reserves, so women have to stock energy in the form of fat in anticipation of future pregnancies. To this end female hormones make it easier to convert fat into food, as fat reserves can aid the survival of the woman and her children during times of scar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:14 PM
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I have no idea how you'd do that because most women get those kind of compliments from puberty onwards, so it would be difficult to find a control group of women who don't get complimented ever I think compliments mean much more when you're not used to them - in this case I'm sure they do boost confidence etc But yes, this is just personal experience, i advent got any evidence apart from what i see around me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 08:15 PM
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Thats my point. Because most men aren't used to that level of sexual attention, they imagine how they would feel in that situation - confident, sexy, validated, attractive. But thats not actually how most women feel about compliments from strangers or online matches. Personally its irritating more than anything, but other women can feel threatened, objectified etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:40 PM
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Your counterpart is whoever wants to fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:15 PM
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No because women are used to that level of attention form a very young age, and realise that it doesn't make them special nor does it usually translate into anything meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:05 PM
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I was replying to this part of the OP : So even if girls are in it just to fuck, it doesn't sound like they're enjoying or even orgasming from all that fucking and all the attention/validation that goes with it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 09:39 PM
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I don't know, I've read a lot of articles about amazing hook up sex so guess there are two sides. And anyway Id trust real life experiences over online articles. Personally Ive never had a terrible or an incredible ONS. There have been lots of occasions where I havent had an orgasm, but for me thats the same in a relationship (just my experience, not every womans) Hook ups aren't meant to give you long lasting fulfilment , its just a casual thing where you're single but still fancy getting laid …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:36 PM
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Um im a woman and when I had ONS they were mostly enjoyable and orgasmic (some not but thats the same as sex in a relationship), plus I didnt want a relationship with any of the guys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:24 PM
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Straight woman maybe 20% Honestly about 0.5%, I've never asked a guy out 5-10% depending on personality , chemistry etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:43 PM
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But the visceral raw attraction can't last for fifty years, not even close. So you also need the affection, the comfort etc in a marriage. I wouldn't feel that raw, visceral, have to have sex with you right now feeling 24 hours a day with ANY guy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 06:18 PM
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What gender and pill are you? woman, don't know Relative to your age and marital/LTR status, do you have a lower than average number of friends, average, or higher than average? Average to high (sociable job, sociable person) Do you consider yourself an introvert or an extrovert? Extrovert What percentage of your friends are of your own gender? Friends are defined as people you want to spend time with in a social setting that aren't your family, but can include co-workers/classmates you relate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 04:33 PM
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No ones saying women deserve more sympathy than men who can't find a sexual partner, BUT the orgasm gap between men and women can explain why women aren't as enthused by the opportunities for casual sex available to them as the average man would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:47 PM
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Yeah like I said you can choose to sleep with whoever. If you take 'beta losers' to mean guys who aren't sexually attractive to a particular woman, then there's no reason for her to sleep with them apart from altruism. Whereas getting money, drugs or whatever for sleeping with someone is potentially worth the unpleasantness of fucking someone you're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:36 PM
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Who women sleep with is in their control, but who they're attracted to isn't really. Are you saying women should choose to sleep with men they're not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:22 PM
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Try and look as good as possible, flirty body language, either wait for him to approach me or find some reason to speak to him. If he doesn't seem keen to extend the conversation, Id leave it. Once were talking keep using flirty body language, make him feel good about himself, tease him a bit, try and be funny and chatty etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:00 PM
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No.. If you like the look of someone, you smile at each other, you can go over and chat - if you can't even have a conversation obviously it wasn't meant to be, otherwise see what happens. Its really not so hard
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:56 PM
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No one fucks anyone just because they're 'nice' Also going up to a girl and making a convo just get her number isn't a horrible thing to do, it doesn't make a guy not a nice person. Whereas being friends with someone for months/ years then showing sexual interest can sometimes be interpreted as deceptive, manipulative or dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 12:33 AM
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As in we've only been dating a few months, but he's always paid for everything, buys me flowers etc. I don't care at all what pill he is, I was just answering the question in that I guess Id describe him as purple pill. No idea how he'd describe himself though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 12:28 AM
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Ive dated two guys whose parents were multi millionaires, and they were no better or worse than anyone else. From my experience I think being born into money gives you more confidence but I odnt see it having an effect on whether or not you're a good person
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:21 AM
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Whichever is hotter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:18 AM
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Been together about 6 months He has really good 'game', but I wouldnt say he's red pill because he treats me really well, I think he agrees with feminism etc. So Id say we're both purple although we've never discussed it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 01:06 AM
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How long did you date before clarifying exclusive commitment? 2 months ish Did you have sex first? Yes Was it you who pushed for commitment or was it him? He brought it up, but I had been dropping hints and wanted us to be exclusive Is he significantly more or less attractive than you, or approximately the same? I think I'm more attractive How old are both of you? Im 22 and he's 25
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 12:51 AM
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All the guys Ive been with were conventionally attractive, sociable etc so they had a lot of women around them/after them, but I was never aware of any individual woman in particular. And Im not a very jealous person so it didnt bother me - I figure if they like someone else more than me they can leave
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 12:48 AM
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Bit of both, but wouldn't call SATC art, its solely light entertainment. Entertainment doesn't always shape or influence culture, at least not as directly as SATC = slutty women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:20 PM
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SATC is just entertainment, its not meant as a primer on how to live life. Its escapism, just like watching Game of Thrones or House of Cards or whatever. I loved SATC, but Im not going out and trying to emulate them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:34 PM
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You can do whatever you want - catcall, approach in a nightclub etc, just people are telling you that this is unlikely to be successful in many cases. In my experience the best way to get casual sex is from nightlubs, bars etc, and relationships through mutual friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 01:15 AM
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What about guys who catcall from cars or vans? They;re obviously never going to see you again and have no way of contacting you, so Id call that a zero percent chance of reciprocated interest. Thats the most common catcall I get too, just wolf-whistling or vulgar comments from a moving vehicle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 01:12 AM
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men who catcall me? God late teens to late fifties? Like working age I guess but no age group in particular. Men who approach probably more around my age like 20s and 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 10:22 PM
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Dunno I feel like most of the ones I get just like seeing women jump, its kind of a machismo thing in front of their friends. I don't see how anyone could believe shouting ' Id fuck you up the arse' or 'nice tits' or whatever would be welcomed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 10:11 PM
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Id say the main difference between a genuine approach and a catcall is the intention. For example if you shout things out of a moving vehicle, you obviously aren't going to see the woman again, havent got any means of contacting her. So your only intention in catcalling is to make yourself feel good or showing off in front of other
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:37 PM
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The majority of them I wouldn't want to date if we were strangers either, so being friends with me hasn't cockblocked them in that sense. But there are a couple who if I had met at the right point in my life I might have slept with before we became friends. I think for women, having sex isn't worth risking a friendship or multiple friendships, whereas maybe it is for some guys. I don't actually know what my guy friends would do if I came on to them - I think they would say ye, but maybe they wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:04 PM
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I don't see catcalling as symbolic of a wider 'rape culture', i just find it irritating being shouted at whilst Im walking around. The logic I follow is that i hate being catcalled, I don't want it to happen to my daughters, and something should be done to stop it. Most women aren't hysterical about the issue, just irritated. If its a vocal minority of men who catcall, its also a vocal minority of feminist women who think all men are pigs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:58 PM
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I think I have a higher threshold for what I would consider flirting coming from a male friend compared to a male stranger or acquaintance. Like if a friend complimented me, put his arms around me, bought me drinks, I wouldn't necessarily think he was flirting whereas I would interpret those actions differently from a stranger. But I don't know if thats a female quality Overall though I agree - I have a lot of guy friends, and wouldn't sleep with any of them. Not because they're unattractive, mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:00 PM
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hahah yeah id assume so, unless he was on his way over to talk to me from a distance or something. I kind of see a catcall as something that has no real purpose, just a passing comment. And I'm not going to scream my phone number across a crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:51 PM
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Catcalling is usually from a distance, it's just shouting a comment about your appearance. Its not asking you anything about yourself or trying to set up a date. Catcalling is 'nice tits', approaching is coming over and saying 'you have nice tits, can i get your number and ill take you for a drink sometime'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 06:13 PM
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I agree that 'teaching men not to catcall' is patently ridiculous, because the vast majority of men don't catcall and the minority who do aren't reading articles on jezebel or wherever. However thats not really the point, its more what percentage of women have been catcalled; which would probably be above 80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 05:00 PM
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1 agree 2 disagree 3 depends if you want casual sex or a marriage 4 sometimes 5 true 6 true 7 true 8 true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 04:52 PM
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1) Yes 2) Yes, but not justified in taking it out on the girl 3) Yes 4) Upset but not offended
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:10 PM
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Do you think paying for a lap dance is in itself immoral or only when you're in a relationship? I think its immoral to lie to your partner, or do something you know they're uncomfortable with, but seeing as I don't care about my SO going to strip clubs occasionally whats the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:26 PM
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That has nothing to do with what I wrote, but if we use the same logic…. If she enjoyed sex shed want to do it again, if she hates sex full stop then you have a major problem and aren't compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 05:00 PM
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Because being homeless is harder than being unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 03:37 PM
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Sleeping with attractive men doesn't mean they don't respect her. I like to think Ive never slept with anyone who hasn't respected me (which btw isn't a very high standard to have). Ive said yes to ten guys, but I've said no to thousands probably. If by high standards you mean a woman who hasn't had sex outside LTRs, just say that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 02:53 PM
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Off topic but thats my absolute favourite chat up line
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:48 PM
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How does she have low standards if she's sleeping with people more attractive than she is? Id call that a high standard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:45 PM
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God no, Id rather stay at my current level until I was good enough to be promoted and be left in peace. Its awkward as fuck being asked out by your boss. These were jobs I didn't particularly care about (bartending at a club), it would be awful at a job I really needed or wanted though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:29 AM
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Think that depends on the relationship. Personally I wouldnt care if my guy did it occasionally, like on a stag weekend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:20 AM
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I think having a boss hit on someone who works for them is harrassment, even if its not explicitly made clear that you wont advance in your career if you decline. The implication is that you would advance a lot faster if you slept with them Ive had this happen to me, but not in 'career' type jobs, only when i was waitressing or bartending
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 11:52 PM
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Yeah I know, just saying thats where I found the picture. Id still rate them all about 4 or 5 /10 accounting for age
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:16 PM
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This is some thing about how the same weight looks different on differnet women, but Id rate all these as average http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e3/f6/86/e3f6864fb14ddf2b86bff352265380ab.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:29 PM
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Most of these women are above average for their age
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:23 PM
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Wouldnt care about them going clubbing, wouldnt care if they smelt like womens perfume. If he had womens underwear in his poclets i would be suspicious, especially because if he had been raped he would have told me before I had to ask. So that would be a red flag for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:22 PM
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Yeah maybe. Thinking back to my highschool class, if you lined all the guys up in order of attractiveness, hed probably be in the top 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:43 PM
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Average means an average amount of people will be attracted to you imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:42 PM
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I totally agree with these. They're average, not ugly, not hot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:01 PM
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I mean obviously he's not proposing to her, he just wants a kiss, nothing wrong with that. Douchey would be saying "heyyyy baby, tight ass, I'm going to fuck you whether you want it or not' or something like that. But do whatever you want
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:20 PM
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Just going up to a stranger, smiling, dancing, and kissing isnt douchey. Thats how it works in some environemnts, nightclubs, festivals or whatever. Try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:58 AM
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I think guys tend to see it as an issue if a girlfriend had anal (for example) with one guy, but wont try it with them. Whereas for me ,if my boyfriend had given oral to <5 women but didn't want to go down on me, i wouldnt be hugely bothered. If I knew he'd been down on dozens of women though, Id start to wonder if something was wrong with me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:21 AM
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If she enjoyed anal, she'd want to do it again, if she hated it then clearly she wouldnt. I dont see the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 12:17 AM
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I dress most revealingly when I feel hot and confident, like I've been firkin out s lot or having a good makeup day. If i feel insecure Im more likely to wear loose clothes or not go out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 01:02 AM
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But neither of these two guys got laid so it didnt really work. Personally Ive hooked up with guys who approached me in douchey and non douchey ways , depending on my mood at the time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 10:53 PM
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I think the issue is that you shouldn't need in depth sources or loads of research just to be able to talk to people, to live a normal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 05:07 PM
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I mean thats the kind of guy my mum would consider 'bad' - like has a motorbike or whatever -and thats the kind of vibe I get form Sandberg. Why would you advise anyone date sociopaths and sadists, thats such shitty advice for anyone, let alone young career orientated women. And I don't think she's saying that bad boys are sexy because they're bad, she's saying to date the sexy portion of the bad boys. But thats semantics I guess. I think aha she's doing is telling young women they don't have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:11 AM
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Yes exactly, so just being sexy isn't enough for a long term relationship, but its fine for a short term fling. So for short term a guy can be sexy and rebellious, sexy and smart, sexy and stupid, sexy and whatever. But for long term the standards are a lot higher. Thats how I read it anyway Also I doubt she means criminals and sociopaths by bad boys. Just your standard high school or college 'bad boy' who bunks off school and parties a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:57 AM
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Ok, but Im still not giving him access to my womb if there's a coil in the way, so what does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:37 AM
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Well yeah if you're having sex for procreation which is a different issue. I have an IUD so no ones getting access to my womb haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:31 AM
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I think the first is fabricated The second definitely could be true. I guess the guy would be entertaining enough to talk to for a night - but he didnt get laid which was his aim so don't see how it was a success. Some of the techniques like kino work in some scenarios, but if some random guy was making me play stupid games all night (more than one), Id find it exasperating and try hard Having said that, I definitely think being a bit mean to a girl can get her more interested if its done in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:19 AM
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I really really doubt that. What do I 'give' a guy by fucking him, what does he 'give' me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:10 AM
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theres a difference between have respect for someone as a human, and the kind of respect you need for a successful long term relationship. I wouldn't fuck a guy who was rude or degraded me; anyone I've slept with has been basically decent, hasn't abused me etc etc. But not to the level where you'd trust them to share your home, your finances, raise children together. Thats the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:08 AM
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I think what she's saying is just being sexy isn't enough for a long term partnership ; you need sexy and a lot more. Whereas when you're young, dont have responsibilities etc, its fine to just go for sexual attraction without considering other factors, if thats what you want to do whilst you're focusing on other parts of your life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:05 AM
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Having sex with someone isnt a gift you give them,you havent 'lost' anything afterwards, its a mutual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 12:03 AM
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Its like i could find my boyfriend attractive and want to fuck him 6//7, but one day a week i dint want to have sex with him. I still find him attractive but if he forces himself on me its rape, even if i find him objectively attractive at all times
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 02:25 AM
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Is that really such an issue though. Yeah some men will fuck anything that moves so most women can get laid a lot easier than most men. But having people want to fuck you isn't a human right or an entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 05:38 PM
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So every guy Ive been in a relationship pith, and some casual partners has asked for anal at least once. Only one boyfriend was persistent, kept asking a few times a month although I always said no, tried to convince me etc. He was also after a threesome. Theres nothing wring with asking to find out what your partners into, but if they say no you have to take it. Obviously thats just my anecdotal evidence of about 10 guys, but I think wanting to have anal sex is common amongst guys my age (early…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 01:02 AM
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I never thought I was hideous, but its just weird when your bodes changing I think. I grew up assuming guys liked the way I looked, and my friends and I knew we could flirt our way into clubs underage etc, but it didnt really give me much self confidence in my teens. Plus loads of my friends were and are absolute 10/10 - models, dancers etc - so I usually thought guys preferred them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 11:40 AM
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Nah I agree. For me oral is 4/10 if good sex is 9/10. Only one guy Ive been with was good at it though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 12:56 AM
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Live and let live, I don't care. The only time I would say anything is if i thought a family member was doing something detrimental to their long term health and happiness, lie a drug addiction or a gambling problem. Even then Id tread very carefully
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 02:49 PM
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I don't think anyone is that comfortable with themselves/the way they look during puberty, but looking back I can see that I was attractive. I had a few boyfriends from 12-17. I think a lot of it was to do with impressing other girls though - I was friends with the pretty, popular crowd, and it was definitely a case of the more popular you were with boys the more popular you were with the girls. I don't think I realised the way guys looked at me until I was about 14/15, when I started getting hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 02:35 AM
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This is an example of men having no idea how much effort women put into their appearance. Hair for example: Cuts and highlights are about £100 a month, hair masks, hair oils, blow-dry, straighteners, hot rollers, overnight treatments etc etc. Yeah its not difficult to be 'bangle', but actually looking good takes effort
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 12:50 AM
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Is this for a boyfriend or a hookup? Boyfriend: Personality, Looks, Stabiity, Sexual Skills, Values Hookup: Looks, Sexual Skills, Personality, Values, Stability
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:30 PM
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For women: Do you find men with tattoos attractive? If so why? Yes, if they're good tattoos on a good body i think they're interesting Do you find men who engage in dangerous activities, such as stunt boy/dare devils attractive? If so why? No, they scare me Do you find men who are trained in martial arts or street fighting to be attractive? No Do you find men who drive above the speed limit, or break petty laws attractive? Not attractive or unattractive - neutral Do you find men who are aggressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:26 PM
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I don't see anything wrong in going out, getting dresses up and having a few drinks, a dance and a bit of a flirt. If you trust your partner theres nothing wrong with it at all. Ive never ever cared about boyfriends going on a guys night out, and Id be worried about our relationship if he asked me to stop going out with my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 12:53 AM
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Its your prerogative if you want to consider cunnilingus as sex, but if you're using penetration as the rule of thumb that doesnt make sense. Penetration isn't part of cunnilingus unless you mean her clit in his mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 07:09 PM
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Fair enough. I wouldn't assume oral or fingering counted as sex so I guess its a good idea to clarify what you mean when asking someone. Do you think a guy going down on a girl counts? I think everyone knows it still counts if you're on holiday or whatever, claiming otherwise is clearly lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:50 PM
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So you count fingering as 'sex' right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:44 PM
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Id say two because I wouldnt count BJS, but personally I think the most important fact is that she's had sex with both men and women. So if I were her Id say, two - a guy and a girl. The level of detail in 6 seems unnecessary , although its the kind of thing that would comoe out in conversation later
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:42 PM
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So are guys according to that graph
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:33 PM
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TRP overestimates how quickly women age and underestimates how thirsty guys are. I know two women in their 50s who hook up with guys in their late twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 12:11 PM
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Yeah I work with a bartender who's 33 and she always goes home with younger guys. She's like a 7/10 but she's got a really sexy vibe and I don't think the guys care about her age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 12:01 PM
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Have you never ever seen an old, ugly, poor guy with a girlfriend? seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:05 AM
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I can only speak of what Ive seen in my peer group (21 ish) , and Id say womens RV is usually lower than their SMV, whilst mens is about the same AT THIS AGE. The majority of both genders would fuck someone they wouldn't be in a relationship with, barring those who don't have any casual sex of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 01:58 AM
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Do you think you really are in charge, or does your wife just let you think that for an easy life? ( I only ask because Ive seen this dynamic a lot in my personal life!)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 10:53 PM
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What sort of issues are you debating over? Things like where to live, how to spend joint money etc? I can't imagine letting someone else decide those kind of things for me. But if its trivial stuff like which restaurant to go to tonight, which colour to paint a wall, Id let my partner decide to avoid an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 10:46 PM
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it sounds like it works well for you and you're both happy with the dynamic, which is great I think what I would have an issue with is being with someone who felt that they were better or more intelligent than me in some way when it comes to making big decisions. Id find that patronising, and wouldn't want to cede control of my life to my partner. Is there something about your wife you feel makes her incapable of being a Captain?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 08:06 PM
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I think its because in a company your boss is your boss for a reason - they're more experienced, more qualified, do a harder job etc. Whereas in a romantic relationship between two people, what gives the man the right to lead? I mean, if this is what both parties want to do thats absolutely fine, but thats why I personally have an issue with the Captain/First Mate dynamic as a concept
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 07:38 PM
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I mean its not her fault the guy wants to fuck her, and its a pop song anyways, I wouldn't read too much into it. But yeah in college a lot of the time guys will be out trying desperately to get laid girls will just be having fun ( actually some of them probably are on the pull, just a lot more subtle about it). You want to look like getting with girls isn't the main purpose of your night, just having fun with your friends. Join a sports team or something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 01:42 PM
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I feel like this isn't really about Daft Punk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 03:06 AM
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See my ideal there would be built fat - but we both agree A9 isn't the most attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 10:25 PM
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haha why not? Havent exactly got a reason to lie on an anonymous online forum. 6F is just more my body type - Im into the rugby player look Looking again I also like E5
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 08:54 PM
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I don't find A9 attractive, so if it was on body alone then yes I would. But obviously theres a lot more to it if we actually met in person. I like 6F best
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 06:06 PM
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Im the same as you, I think 6F is my favourite - but form this we seem to be unusual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 06:05 PM
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6F
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 06:04 PM
3

Didn't adults also tell you Santa was real?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 12:53 AM
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I'm not being facetious, but I truly don't understand how people reach adulthood believing looks don't matter. I mean my parents told me personality and intelligence and kindness were the most important traits, friends always told be to be myself . But it's so obvious from the world around you that looks are important it wasn't even something I conciously thought about. The mesage is everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 12:51 AM
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So long as you don't do it too often, or too soon, its really nice to feel like someone finds you attractive. It gives me confidence and makes me like them more provided Im already attracted to them. Not too much though, sounds sycophantic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 01:58 PM
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Forcing people to stay in unhappy relationships sounds like there would be far more bitter and lonely poeple out there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 12:48 PM
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Cry me a river man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:35 AM
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Statistically its likely youve slept with a handful of fakers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 12:03 AM
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I dont doubt there is a neurochemical explosion during orgasm, however I dont necessarily belive this leads to pair bonding. If so wouldnt I be hung up on the guy I had the best/most orgasms with? (if orgasming by myself doesnt count of course) The anatomy and evolutionary purpose of the female orgasm is still largely a scientific mystery, so all we have here is speculation. Im just sharing my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 12:02 AM
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Im not sure if results of prairie vole pair bonding are particularly relevant. I do think having frequent good sex with someone increases the bond between you, and I've definately experienced this myself - finding partners more physically attractive after months sleeping together. However I dont think orgasms necessarily lead to pair bonding. And as I said having an orgasm with a guy requires a certain bond and comfort with him. So its not orgasm leading to pair bonding, but a bond can lead to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 11:58 PM
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Ok so if repeated orgasms = pair bonding, why am I not bonded to my right hand? Also for me at least, having an orgasm with a guy requires a certain bond and comfort with him. So its not orgasm leading to pair bonding, but a bond can lead to an orgasm Edit: The stimulus of another human being is necessary for pair-bonding. - pretty sure you just made that one up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 05:34 PM
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So why not go after the women who aren't into casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 03:50 PM
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Then most women would be bonded to their vibrator or their hand! Having sex a lot of times with the same guy, and spending the night together definitely strengthens my feelings for someone, but it wouldn't make me fall in love
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 01:32 PM
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Who cares? I mean really, it just sounds like bitching because some hot girls are having a better time than you. Also Im pissed off I paid for three years worth of rent, bills and groceries; no one told me I could get everything paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 09:08 AM
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Anyone googling 'how to get laid' isn't getting laid anytime soon. Seriously though, the internet isn't a way for teens to learn about life, some things you need to experience for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 12:47 AM
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I have no idea if thats true or not. All i know is personally Im never going to continue to date someone without being sure I'm physically attracted because it sucked
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 12:42 AM
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No pill, F, probably 2-3 times a week? I think thats relatively low compared to my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:59 PM
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I dont understand anyone being with someone they find unattractive; thats bizarre to me unless you're just a gold digger. I went on a few dates with a guy I wasn't hugely physically attracted to, and decided Im never going to do that again because it was unfair to him and uncomfortable for me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:56 PM
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Of course I found my boyfriends attractive, why else would I be with them. I think this insecurity is quite a teenage thing though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:44 PM
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I guess in some cases, but I know that when i was younger i was always worried the guy would get bored of me, that they expected women to always look perfect and be nice and sweet, but also be exciting in bed etc. I think insecurity is pretty gender neutral, especially at a younger age. I never felt 'unfulfilled' in relationships, but maybe thats because I'm in my early twenties and haven't 'settled down'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:35 PM
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I definitely agree that the majoriyt of women don't find the majority of men sexually attractive in the same way that most men would fuck most women. I can't say whether this makes it harder for men to hold a relationship; don't know if there are any stats on which gender usually initiates a break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:16 PM
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I find people of both genders more attractive once i get to know and like them. I guess its like a halo effect of their personality. In LTRs Ive always found the guy more attractive as time goes on compared to the first time I met him, because I feel closer to him. It goes the other way to; if I fall out with someone or break up with a guy I find them physically uglier
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:06 PM
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Ok fair enough. What I meant by trust was feeling like the guy wouldn't physically hurt you or turn out to be a crazy stalker. I don't think the drug dealer part is particularly relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 11:04 PM
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I think there is still a fundamental trust that they're not going to hurt YOU, however they behave generally. Which may be misguided. But feeling physically safe with a guy is a baseline for wanting to sleep with him, even for a ONS. Risk isn't sexually attractive, but a dgaf, anti establishment attitude can be. Maybe some very sheltered girls who go to college and think the local weed dealer is a thrilling lothario might fuck him as a rebellion; but i don't think thats terribly common
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:32 PM
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I know some dealers who do really well with girls and others who do terribly. Being a dealer =/= automatically fuck loads of girls So is your argument that women fuck drug dealers despite not trusting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:06 PM
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Im not BP and neither did I say anyone using recreational drugs is an addict. Just in my own life I havent seen any evidence women fuck drug dealers disproportionately. And Ive only ever been to one mediocre party at a dealers house, but that might just be where I'm from. Like most people, some dealers are hot others aren't. The point I was making is that a few women (mainly addicts) fucking dealers doesn't disprove the argument that 'If you want a woman to sleep with you, she needs first to tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 08:59 PM
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By that metric you could say women always fuck zoo keepers or scaffolders or men with mustaches The majority of women who fuck drug dealers are drug addicts, and I don't see how that fact is really relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 05:00 PM
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I don't think ONSs ahem much to do with trust or not trusting - its more not thinking about it, a spur of the moment decision. Having said that, I doubt many women would bring home a guy they consider actively dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:08 PM
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What percentage of women actually fuck drug dealers though? I think trust and feeling safe with a guy isn't necessary to have sex with him, but it makes the sex a lot lot better for the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 03:33 PM
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Thats a really interesting question. Personally Ive never used sex toys, but a few of my friends had their first and only orgasms using vibrators. But that hasn't seemed to put them off men! I feel like its a positive thing that women are more aware of their potential for sexual pleasure ; but then again Im a product of my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:55 AM
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Agree, i think its kind of weird for him to tease me as the first exchange we have. If we've been talking for a bit then its fine, but as an opener Id just think he was being mean
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 10:28 PM
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Actually a recent study concluded that women are either bisexual or gay but never straight. Straight identifying women were aroused by images of both genders, whilst straight men were only aroused by images of women http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11977121/Women-are-either-bisexual-or-gay-but-never-straight.html not really relevant to the OP but interesting nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 10:20 PM
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I can't tell if you're being serious…. Could you elaborate on how desperate housewives brainwashed your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:45 PM
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Women have never been sexually attracted to the majority of men, however its only relatively recently that sexual attraction towards their partner became a deal breaker for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:42 PM
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Plus i think both genders do this - build up an imaginary perfect partner in their heads and then be disappointed when flawed reality doesnt live up to your ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 07:11 PM
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Id see it as women have never been sexually attracted to the majority of men , however in the past lack of sexual attraction wasn't seen as a reason not to get married / form a relationship. Whereas today the majority women still aren't sexually attracted to the majority of men - however they also don't want to be in a relationship without mutual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 06:57 PM
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I agree women have always talk to each other, however I don't think sexual incompatibility was seen as a major issue in the same way it is today. Also people in general knew less about sex and their bodies - I mean the G Spot was only recognised in the 80s - so the discussion would have been different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:37 PM
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brainwashed by Desperate Housewives?!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:33 PM
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Most women aren't sexually attracted to most men in the same way most men are sexually attracted to most women. I think this has always been the case. Womens sexuality hasn't changed, but society has changed so that women know more about their bodies and sexual compatibility, plus aren't required to marry their first partner, or marry at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:31 PM
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Most women aren't sexually attracted to most men in the same way most men are sexually attracted to most women. I think this has always been the case
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:04 PM
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Bad sex wouldn't have been the reason for all their relationship issues. How would they both have known their sex life was lacklustre anyway? Whereas today there is so much easily accessible information out there about how to make sex pleasurable for both parties, about various kinks etc. Today sexual incompatibility is a factor in many breakups, whereas I doubt this was the case historically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 05:03 PM
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No, you can have awful sex with a really hot guy. But I don't think I could fully enjoy sex with someone I found unattractive physically - I wouldn't be turned on, wouldn't orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:44 PM
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I agree. I think "good sex" is much more important to women today than it was in the past, maybe because they often didnt know what they were missing. Not just because they may have had fewer sexual experiences before marriage, but also no porn, less open discussion about sex and especially the female orgasm etc. I still wouldn't say its the number one priority for most women in relationships, but there's more of an understanding that sex isn't just 'for' the guy, its a mutual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:38 PM
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Id have liked him at the party, and been attracted to him but I wouldn't have gone over for Netflix because thats a terrible first date. Id assume he wasn't into me if he invited me over for Netflix
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:24 PM
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Id have liked him at the party, and been attracted to him but I wouldn't have gone over for Netflix because thats a terrible first date. Id assume he wasn't into me if he invited me over for netflix
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 04:07 PM
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wrong….
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 02:36 AM
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Because in terms of dating, being passive is enough for a lot of women because men are approaching them. They may not be as successful as if they took a more aggressive approach, but its good enough a lot of the time. Basically I think humans are naturally lazy, so if theirs no incentive not to be passive, why wouldn't they be?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 01:37 AM
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How does anyone meet anyone? Friends of friends. Go out, join stuff, do stuff, travel. Put himself out there. In terms of self improvement the above should build confidence and widen his social circle, then physical improvement. Thats if he's not happy with the type of woman he's already attracting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 01:01 AM
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If he wants to be in a relationship, I would tell him to work on self improvement and meeting more women because the current situation isn't going to do much. Then filter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 12:49 AM
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Where are you even going with this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 12:23 AM
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Yeah borderline deformed is mean. But it does seem that a lot of guys in this thread can't see that he's significantly less attractive than her - which made me wonder how well guys judge other mens SMV. Maybe its something to do with women having a more fluid sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:42 PM
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For me it would be someone like Michael Cera , or http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/cache/com_zoo/images/guy%20miscampbell%20static%20showcase_b44e8ee1654b24c92f2f8a0d7f26a0b3.jpg or https://tribzap2it.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/matt-hoffman-average-joe-320.jpg?w=320&h=180
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:18 PM
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I would give him a 3-4 : he has an asymmetric face, its not classically handsome especially his eyes and mouth. And yes I would say 60-70% of men in his age range are better looking than him She's probably a 6: above average but not that pretty Do you think women have an easier time judging the SMV of other women, than men do judging how good looking other men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:07 PM
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I would give him a 3-4 : he has an asymmetric face, its not classically handsome especially his eyes and mouth. And yes I would say 60-70% of men in his age range are better looking than him She's probably a 6: above average but not that pretty Do you think women have an easier time judging the SMV of other women, than men do judging how good looking other men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 09:04 PM
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I definitely find people more physically attractive (both genders) after I get to know them. It goes the other way to; if I fall out with someone or break up with a guy I find them physically uglier
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 08:58 PM
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I find people of both genders more attractive once i get to know and like them. I guess its like a halo effect of their personality. In LTRs Ive always found the guy more attractive as time goes on compared to the first time I met him, because I feel closer to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 08:56 PM
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So you'd be happy to only have sex once every two years?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 07:19 PM
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So... Do you think sex should be strictly for procreation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 06:22 PM
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Im form the Uk, and Ive experienced a lot of this too. Expectations to look a certain way for work (which probably took at least an hour longer than any of the guys), being called a bitch for not constantly smiling ands being pleasant in stressful situations. The tone of the article seems a bit hysterical but i do see where she's coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 06:44 PM
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Keep lifting, eat well, take care of your skin, get a good haircut, dress well, maybe tan or grow a beard if it suits you.. You'll probably never get as much attention as men give women (or just not the same kind of attention) but that should help
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 01:45 AM
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Yeah just the potential of an awkward, delicate situation. That can be annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 01:16 AM
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I wouldn't have very strong feelings about it, but Id be flattered i guess, more so the more i fancied him in return. If it was a boss, or a friends bf or whatever id feel anxious or worried
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 05:40 PM
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Wouldn't you say an ugly 60 year old billionaire is delusional if he thinks the 21 year old model is really attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 01:59 PM
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No he's not obligated to tell me. Ive never asked or been asked about partner count and i think it just creates problems unnecessarily. The only reason I would want to know it curiosity and nosiness, and thats never driven me to ask a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 01:49 PM
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No not at all Ive never asked or been asked about past partners. U think it just creates problems
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 01:40 PM
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Yeah. i don't know if its rational, but I think its a natural feeling. Id think a guy who has slept with that many women would be really into women and sex, and so maybe sleeping with just me wouldn't be enough for him. Personally I wouldn't be concerned unless it was a really high number like 300 though -him having a n count of 50 wouldn't bother me. But thats just me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 01:39 PM
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Wouldnt be a dealbreaker, i might be more wary pof him cheating though. It would make me insecure but if i really liked the guy it wouldnt change anything Wouldnt care, makes no diffeerence
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:17 AM
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Its just that women are told so often that men have no standard, will fuck anything - so to be turned down by a man for a date/sex is like being told you're the worst of the worst. Whereas women are generally thought of as more picky, so being turned down as a man doesn't have the same connotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:49 PM
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In my experience of promiscuous women (friends, and probably being one myself accriding to some), the guys they sleep with are very varied. Mainly they hook up with 7/10ish guys, with some 10/10 and 2/10 outliers in a random night. Most promiscuous women have a story about a disaster sleeping with a guy thy wouldn't be seen dead with otherwise. It's not just "Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:46 AM
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If I found a pick up folder, I would freak the fuck out and leave
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:49 AM
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yeah exactly. So it's not virginity itself tahrs unattractive just the reasons behind involuntary celibacy - like your looks or personality. Women aren't turned off by virgins, just by guys who for underlying reasons can't get laid. So the underlying reasons are the key
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 10:06 PM
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No it's the reasons behind being a lossless virgin ie being ugly or weird that women care about (after a certain age obviously). You would have no reason to ask if they were q virgin otherwise. I mean look at Tim tebow - he's a virgin out of choice but women love him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 11:51 PM
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For me , about 20
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 11:35 PM
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So that's a plus one for me haha. If only someone could have told me to go for anal instead and save myself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 12:07 AM
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Taller than me, chest hair, stubble, nice chest, not skinny
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:56 PM
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I honestly don't know anyone over 18 who'd be able to hazard a guess So when you ask a friend or an SO their partner count do you mean how many people have you kissed? What about slept in the same bed as, held hands with? Like if I had a boyfriend I probably wouldn't sit on another guys lap, but does that increase my partner count too?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:41 PM
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You know those guys who just flirt with every woman - your mum, your sister, your friends, strangers- these guys are so fun and easy to be around. Flirting with them isn't some big deal, it's just lighthearted. I lived with a guy like this last year, and he got girls like crazy, and is average looking. Being too intense is definately a turnoff, being charming to everyone is a turn on. Women love men who appreciate women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:37 PM
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What about if he goes down on me but I don't touch his genitals? Does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:56 PM
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Depending on how you looks and how you keep fit, but any older than 45 is vey unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:48 PM
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So kissing someone raises your count? That's seems ridiculous. Who can remember everyone they've ever snogged for gods sake
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:46 PM
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Im 5'7. Been with guys from 5'7 - 6'2. MOst were about 5'10 which is average here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:25 AM
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7 is the only one I would go for. He's 7 or 8 /10 The others are all too old, but you can see that maybe Bush and no. 3 would have been hot when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 02:26 PM
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Im a girl, but thats exactly how id rate them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 02:08 AM
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Agree. I feee=l like a ONS is a time to experiment. I f it gres wrong - so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 01:58 AM
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I only know two virgins my age (21) - a man and a woman. Not in my experience Definitely, minus settling down Not applicable in the UK… No idea Basically depends who you hang out with
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 11:39 PM
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This has happened to me a lot too. I know it comes from a good place, but its irritating to feel like you're being ignored as the expert on your own body. I think this is what the article was trying to express albeit reaalllyyy inelegantly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 11:15 PM
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haha yeah I like my height now. Just saying there are loads of women shorter than you if thats an issue for you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:58 PM
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Nah. Im in Europe too and apparently where i am the average woman is 5'4. Growing up I hated being taller than average but I don't care now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:31 PM
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So do I, but not all women. But I guess if I were you Id go for women your height or shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:13 PM
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5'7 so quite tall for a woman. I think a lot of women like men taller than themselves (not all)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:09 PM
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It wasn't me who dates short guys sorry … Ive never dated anyone shorter than me, the shortest one guy was about 5'8
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:05 PM
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Havent had surgery if thats what you mean … But m going to totally unscientifically give myself 75% natural looks, 25% waxing, tanning, exfoliating, makeup, blowdrying, eyelash extensions etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:58 PM
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If my friends was asking me how to have more ONS (a few have), I would be excited to help, not at all threatened. Id be weirded out if a random stranger asked me But Id try to be honest about why I think he's not getting laid, and tell him to approach a lot more women. Its easier to give advice in a specific situation. I guess Id think about what has worked with guys chatting up me or my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:56 PM
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yeah, i think I'm pretty hot when i put the effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:45 PM
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I think you're right there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:16 PM
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ahah yup probably, but guess we'll never know. In his younger days though he has the whole weird looking male model thing going on
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 07:16 PM
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Tbh i think Mick Jaggers genuinely hot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:39 PM
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The men other women are attracted to must have some other attractive feature like being hot, funny, rich or whatever. So I don't think we're attracted just because other women are too, thats just a side effect of his attractiveness generally
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:14 PM
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One of the most promiscuous guys I know is facially a 2 /10. But he is tall and fit, and very very confident so probably explains it, and also he has absolutely no standards haha. he's slept with over 50 women and he's about 23. So i think some "ugly" guys do well with women, but they're an exception to the rule and have other features which make up for their looks (for him i think its mainly height and attitude)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 06:11 PM
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Ok what do you want to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:58 AM
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Its one of those things which is a huge deal before you do it, but once you have sex you realise nothing fundamental changes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:21 AM
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I dunno, average looking, nothing awful, bit socially awkward, quiet, bearded, funny haha its hard to describe a group of guys in one sentence… can do them one by one of you prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 02:44 AM
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yes they do. Do you seriously think the only guys who have casual sex are the ones who look like henry cavil?!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:22 AM
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I think that an "incel' woman not forcing herself to have sex with men she isn't attracted to is comparable to incel men who decide not to sleep with prostitutes. A lot of incel guys say the fact they're paying for sex makes them feel so bad they don't want to do it, although this technically means they're voluntarily celibate. I make this comparison because of how awful sex can be for women when they're not into it - painful, definitely no orgasm, traumatic etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:18 AM
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Ive seen this happen a few times. I work in a bar, and a lot of times younger guys (18-28) are openly cruel to ugly women. Not in a begging way, in a fuck off you fat troll way. It doesn't happen often but it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:07 PM
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No, but that wasnt the argument And what about my non chad ONS and FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:26 AM
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I think the guy has to make it explicit before the women can turn him down Personally if i prememptively turned a guy down , id feel very vain and presumptuous - what if he didnt fancy me at all? how embrrassing. So I think its the responsibility of the party who wants to take the friendship to the next level
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:25 AM
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duh, But most average guys can get casual sex if they want it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:22 AM
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I was with them " just for sex" , they were just fuck buddies i guess, just non chads… I think TRP likes to think women only fuck chads as an explanation for their own incelibacy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:18 AM
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Ahaha Ill be sure to let him know …. I thin you're overestimating what an 'alpha" is Also i don't mean to to my friend a disservice ; he is a lovely guy, and has a v handsome face
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:12 AM
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what about women who've have sex with non chads? ( Like me)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:07 AM
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I understand But i think theres still something the woman stands to lose by being honest, be it a job, a friendship, social standing, financial benefits, her reputation etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:04 AM
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Ahah ok. Hes 5'6 ish, Indian, STEM major, nice face, nice gu (not a NICE GUY)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:02 AM
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It would be socially weird, but would also put you out of line for a promotion, set you back in your career etc For example, I worked at a bar this summer where the owner hit on me a lot, and kept messing me to the point i had to block him. I need to contact him for details to do with my tax return in th enew year, bu rim debating whether its worth it I agree that turning guys down dy to day isn't a big deal, but when your job is on the line it is very different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:48 AM
2

So whats your opinion on my guy friend using tinder then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:44 AM
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Depends how you define alpha, but a guy friend I would consider beta regularly uses tinder to get ONS. I know thats anecdotal but thats all I got Generally though id say real life is better for finding hookups than online
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:40 AM
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Not true. non alphas have casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:26 AM
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Also reddit isn't life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:19 AM
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I assume pretty much every man who talks to me is attracted to me ( not something I would ever admit in real life). I modify my behaviour as a result BUt hats different to rejecting every guy I engage with before he EXPLICITLY states he's attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:12 AM
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I guess some peoples life circumstances mean they can't be adventureous and fit But for most people there's no excuse. And its a good goal to have. It's certainly mine
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:04 AM
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Body off baywatch, face off crimewatch
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:59 AM
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Im 21, and most of my friends would go for an older guy, but no older than about 28/30
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:58 AM
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No. Some people are just friendly, polite, flirty without being sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:56 AM
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Exactly! There's a massive grey area between " no i hate you, never speak to me again", and ' yes i want to fuck you" Which isn't being acknowledged Its slightly shitty. but i dont want to get fired so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:51 AM
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Yeah they weren't your friends The activities i do with my guy friends are exactly the same as with my girl friends: and we pay for ourselves unless we feel particularly generous / drunk I don't think you can tar all female friends with the same brush
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:48 AM
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ahahaa Like that has anything to with it, but about 9st
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:31 AM
1

Nah average guys definately get some attention. Depneds on your definition of average
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:21 AM
2

I'v had sex with non alphas? ama !?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:17 AM
2

Id be exhausted, and break up with him in now of his prick phases
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:11 AM
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Because hot people get more attention from the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:02 AM
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Why wouldn't you work out and be adventurous? Surely they're realistic goals for most poeple? Just working out and being adventurous (to some degree) doesn't put you in the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:00 AM
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Why would younger women want to settle down with an old man though? Depends how old were talking though, like late 20s versus 40
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:54 AM
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I mean, I never give out my number or accept a date or anything like that. But if we were rude and turned down every guy who vaguely flirted with a bartender, the place would be empt in a week. I don't think its that much of a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:40 AM
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I reject that premise completely. There are a million other things the guy could want, least of all being friendly to a coworker
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:37 AM
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Thats absolutely ridiculous. I assume the guy at work isn't sexually interested in Jed, Greg, o keith either, but he still says hi. Turning down every guy who talks to you would make you look incredibly vain and stuck up. Saying good morning is nowhere near to expressing a sexual interest : which anyway would be highly inappropriate in a workplace
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:36 AM
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I would never assume that a man talking to me fancies me. I feel like that would be unbelievably arrogant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:31 AM
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Street harassment implies an interaction between strangers, not friends. Otherwise it would be car harassment or lounge harassment or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:29 AM
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I just go with be friendly until he gives me an explicit reason to believe he's in to me. I don't want to risk just looking vain and assuming every guy friend / colleague / acquaintance is into me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:26 AM
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In many cases this is right, but sometimes its not practical I work at a bar, and I've been told never to explicitly turn down a guy because they'll never come in again and well lose business. So i have to be a bit coy A lot of time (like if you work together, or are mutual friends) its not in your best interest to turn the guy down and have him hate you. So I think thats a big reason women play dumb and try to retain plausible deniability
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:24 AM
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Men are attracted to young, pretty women Women are attracted to confidence Women have higher standards / are pickier than men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 02:13 PM
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it depends if you define it as women who've slept with guys they didnt intend to marry : probably 85% or ' The girl who fucks dozens of athletes and frat guys in college, then eventually goes off and marries some nerdy computer programmer for his money' , which would be more like 1-5% They're very very different things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 01:22 PM
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Secret sex with a celeb One 10 over two 7s Great at oral but not that bothered on this one 11/10 kiss Catcalled daily
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:34 PM
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Ive never asked or been asked either
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 11:37 PM
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When i was in college, most of my friends (both genders) were either still with their high school sweethearts or had slept with 10-20 people. So yeah depends who you hang around with
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:15 PM
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Attractive people getting more romantic/sexual interest isn't unjust though. Its like cleverer people getting top jobs, or fit people being the best athletes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 11:49 PM
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All my close friends whoa re in relationships, are objectively hotter than the guys they're with. We're 21 btw
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 11:47 PM
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Wouldn't a lot of guys rather have casual sex with a 9 than a committed relationship with a 7 too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 11:44 PM
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Id say you remember average experiences less so than extreme ones, so the memories that stick out are the best and worst. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention haha, but I can't remember the details of any specific sexual encounter really. So even if I wanted to compare it would be hard to remember how i felt in that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:30 PM
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The most attractive ones for me are bear and built fat. The otter guy is took skinny for me, Im not really into muscle definition. But hats the body type my guy friends aim for, because they think thats what girls like
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:16 PM
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A bit 90s guy, but I would. Don't really like blondes though No, looks annoying and don't like his body Fave, although its not the best pic of Tom Hardy. I prefer him tidied up a bit in a suit. But he's very manly 4.Head too big for his body, looks young Cant really tell but looks too young for me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 10:56 AM
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So why do so many men approach random women every day?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:55 AM
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Yeah, like tripping over or having my skirt tucked into my knickers or something. But its not a scarring experience, those people won't remember or care
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:42 AM
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I mean I find them attractive, but not sexy? Like I'm not turned on by a picture
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:26 AM
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If I was a guy, yeah Id hot on loads of girls. Quantity over quality haha And its hardly a public humiliation, its just between you and the woman you approached. I doubt shed shout it out to the crowd at the bus stop or wherever. I always just say "sorry I have a boyfriend" and walk off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:24 AM
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Im the same! I find it quite awkward getting pictures because I don't know how to respond. Just seeing his naked or semi clothes body isn't inherently sexy to me, whereas the opposite is true for him. As well I owuldnt really care if my guy friends got changed in front of me, I wouldn't find it arousing or distracting or even interesting to be honest. I hadn't thought about how much this differs between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:20 AM
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Ive never given my number to a guy on the street, but thats because of safety concerns not anything to do with how hot or nice the guy is. Sometimes I say no automatically and later on regret it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:05 AM
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I mean men approach women on the street all the time too, its just I see it more in a bar because I can stand around and watch
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:44 PM
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I assume it must work sometimes though, otherwise guys wouldn't do it so often. Like I work in a bar, and I see the same guys night after night who will hit on pretty much every woman in the place. They get rejected like 30 times for each one who says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:35 PM
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Just because I wouldn't give my number to a guy on the street, doesn't mean every woman is the same. And maybe I just havent met the right guy yet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:16 PM
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I don't think its as much of a social faux pas as its often made out to be online. Being approached by guys out and about is a common occurrence for me , my friends and family. Perosnally I would never give my number to a stranger on the street - however IF I WAS A GUY, I would approach girls all the time. I don't see anything wrong with it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:17 PM
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Im 21 In the last week Ive been approached maybe 5 times whilst not at work No idea, probably 15-20, or maybe more because I didnt go out at night at all this week. So maybe 25-30 Couldn't say, 150??? Very vague. Earlier this year I lived in a bigger city, and it was more often there, I guess cos there are just more people Single I guess less, but I don't really care No Never given my number or dated anyone from the street, Id be too scared I met him on holiday, and kept in contact after we got …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:22 PM
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From my experience of my promiscuous girlfriends, they do have a physical type they usually gravitate towards and hookup with. Like one girl likes tall, skinny, cool blonde guys, another like muscly, bearded dark haired pretty boys. Maybe 60-70% of the guys they hook up are their "type" the rest are a bit random, like who happened to be around at a party or whatever Its really interesting hearing ozymandias experience of polygamous relationships though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:39 PM
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First of all theres nothing at all wrong with being insecure about a girls past, I get that its a big deal for a lot of men and I'm not trying to undermine that. However, for me, I know that my idea of what good sex is hasn't really changed from when I was a virgin. Good sex is feeling comfortable and confident with the other person, me reaching orgasm, passion etc. So having more sexual partners hasn't changed my standard of what good sex is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 01:35 AM
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Also not all women go to college…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:30 AM
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I went to a British uni too, and this was far from my experience. I agree that the top 20-25% of guys were the most promiscuous, but to say 'half the male population are basically eunuchs' seems ridiculous. The percentage of guys not getting any at all was much lower, maybe like 10- 15%?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:37 PM
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Slightly hyperbolic but ok. Its very unfortunate you grew up not thinking women are attracted to hot guys, and by the other comments, unusual
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:40 PM
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But a few comments versus the whole social reality you see in front of you? Im sorry if I'm being obtuse, but I truly can't understand how you wouldn't get that women like attractive men. There are whole industries built around the concept. I know its not the same thing, but from my own experience a lot of my guy friends and my family say girls wearing makeup is unattractive, but I see so much evidence to the contrary every day of my life , so Im not going to stop wearing makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:35 PM
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But didnt you ever notice all the male teen heartthrobs were cute guys? The guys who all the girls liked in high school were hot? Women talking about the hot teacher, or the hot builder or the hot whoever? That film stars were hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:27 PM
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I feel like its so obvious that good looking people are attractive, it doesnt even need to be said. Like people make whole careers out of being hot, the popular crowd in high school are hot, the celebrities all the girl like are hot. Even if i was told "guys hate pretty girls with big boobs", everything else in society would suggest otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:24 PM
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Well I took that to mean women don't like hot guys who are also assholes and douchbags. Not they dislike hot guys just because they're hot - that wouldn't make sense. If someone told me "oh guys hate pretty girls with big boobs, no one likes those girls", I wouldn't take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:20 PM
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I still don't see anyone explicitly saying women don't like attractive guys. Women don't like attractive guys who are also horrible people, good looks aren't the most important factor in attraction, yes. But obviously attractive people are… attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:11 PM
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So did I, about 18 of us shared a communal bathroom but there were only about 4 or 5 guys. It wasn't an issue. So I guess thats a small sign of less gender segregation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:00 PM
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EVERYONE fancies attractive people, surely thats obvious? What women find attractive generally might be confusing, and there are different messages out there, but being attracted to attractive people is a no brainer
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 05:55 PM
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I was casually sleeping with a guy for about 2 years - his SMV wasn't really low, but it was lower than mine, and lower than the guys I usually date. I thought he was quite attractive, but friends rated him a 4/10, he was shy and very socially awkward, and had a low status job. But the sex was good, and he was always very respectful, never talked about me behind my back, very forgiving, considerate and kind. I wouldn't say I fell for him ,and id never date him because conversation was awkward, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 01:29 AM
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Well yeah, would anyone be attracted to a physically unattractive person?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 12:11 AM
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why would anyone be attracted to someone unattractive?Its a contradiction in terms
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:37 PM
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Yeah I freely admit I have ni experience approaching or asking guys out. So what am I misunderstanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:43 PM
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Well when I've used the "nice guy" line, I mean that you're a good person, not creepy or horrible, but Im not sexually attracted to you. Its a kinder way of saying it. It is quite meaningless, but rejecting someone is an awkward situation anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:43 PM
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Join social groups at uni to meet people - I don't know what your hobbies and interests are but there are clubs and societies for pretty much anything. Meet friends of friends and grow your circle of aqua instances. Keep approaching women- I think it's kind of a numbers game so even though rejection hurts it's good to keep going. Try to look good, dress well, have good hygiene etc. Maybe at a part time job?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:47 PM
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Isn't it the being rejected by someone you like part that's hurtful, as opposed to them saying you're a nice guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:37 PM
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It may have been what she meant, that's not what I think when I call someone nice. Nice means kind, friendly, whatever but has nothing to do with attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:31 PM
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Most people find it hard to accept romantic rejection, heir we I don't think there's anything malicious in telling someone there a nice guy but you're not attracted. Whenever I've said this I honestly mean that they are a nice person
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:13 PM
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I know loads of guys who openly say they're disgusted by fat, ugly, old, hairy whatever women. Its not socially unacceptable. Either gender who goes on about this kind of thing loudly in Public will sound like a shallow douche bag, but you can have whatever standards you like in private
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:42 PM
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You're a nice guy, just means you are an averagely nice human that I don't want to date. It's nothing to get so worked up about unless you have underlying issues
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:37 PM
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I've never known a guy be actually angry at a "nice guy" rejection, more just upset/frustrated. Reckon it's an Internet trope
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:35 PM
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I've never met anyone who lost their virginity later than 20 - I would personally find that very strange , especially for women, and it would suggests that person had other issues going on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:32 PM
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Im not making a case for anything, just trying to explain why I don't really approach guys What I mean is, I don't know if I want to hookup with someone unless I talk to the, but Im not going to approach every average or above looking guy. I'd be at it all day, and end up with a bunch of guys thinking I want to sleep with them. But basically the reason most women don't approach guys is that its nerve-wracking, and they don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 02:42 PM
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Exactly right, I think it's the flip side of the fact a lot of men want a women who's sexually inexperienced but opens up and is a "slut" just for them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 01:04 AM
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I'm not at all saying these guys were cave trolls! They were nice looking guys for sure, just I Wouldn't have noticed them just scanning the room if that makes sense. Like a 7/10 not a 10/10, but I'm really glad they approached me. But obviously they far exceeded my "minimum fuck ability standard" (great phrase btw) I guess my pont is that I wouldn't know if I was "fuck yeah" or "meh" about a guy without speaking to him. But I totally acknowledge the unfair dynamic in that men are required to ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 01:00 AM
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I think it's a bit different, because for women attraction isn't just a about looks. Like I've been approached by guys who, looks wise I would t have picked out of a crowd, but who turned out to be cool, funny, interesting or whatever, and have gone on to date or hookup with them. But if it was down to me I never would have approached them . Whereas for guys attraction is a lot more visual (correct me if I'm wrong). So approaching just based on looks makes more sense for men. Sometimes when I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 04:43 PM
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Er by yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 04:03 PM
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Approaching is hard. Thats why I don't understand when guys ask why women don't approach more : you wouldn't do it if you didnt need to either, its scary. Honestly, I don't think Ill ever ask a guy out in my life, just cos I'm a coward
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:33 AM
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Its not fair at all, and Id definitely be pissed off about it if I was a guy, but as it is I just feel grateful - I know I'd be SO bad at approaching!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 12:10 AM
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This is spot on. I know it sounds arrogant, but the reason Ive never asked a guy out is because I havent needed to. I figure that if Im a bit flirty with a guy and he doesn't ask me out, its because he doesn't want to - so I wouldnt put myself forward and risk being rejected. I wouldn't say this in real life for fear of sounding vain, but it is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 11:58 PM
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Obviously 200 is a very high numher of sexual partners which most people are unlikely to reach But compare someone who's slept with 3 guys in LTRs to someone who's had 20 ONSs - they could both have experienced horrible sex, great sex, or more likely some good and some bad. Also what counts as good or bad sex is individual and subjective, but I don't see it as a bad thing to have high standards for what you expect sexually from a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:33 PM
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Thats like saying if you sleep 8 hours a night, eventually that won't be enough to satisfy you and you'll end up sleeping twenty hours a day! You can't just make up random scenarios to support your point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 01:30 AM
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Depends who she's been sleeping with. She could have slept with two guys who were really experiences, well endowed, passionate, whatever, or 200 who were rubbish. I guess the more people you sleep with the higher the chance of having experienced good sex, but I don't really see your point here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 12:56 AM
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Exactly, just cos they demand it doesn't mean you have to do it. I demand a million dollars
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 11:10 PM
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Its a standup routine, clearly she's exaggerating/ inventing for comedic effect Its my experience that a lot of people lie in social situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 05:57 PM
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It depends on why they were sleeping with people though. Personally o think it's more of a red flag if a guy has a high number from a lot of short term relationship shops which he left because he couldn't work through issues. That suggests he can't cope with adult monogamous relationships However if he has a high number from multiple ONS which he wasn't trying to have a relationship with - that is he's not just "walking away from a problem" - it wouldn't bother me as much. If he wasn't looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 02:45 PM
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I think the more people youve been in a relationship with / slept with, the higher your standards for settling down will be, no? Because you'll want to settle down with someone at least as good as the best youve previously experienced. So if you have 2 previous partners you're more likely to find osmaeone you're willing to settle down with than if youve slept with 200…. of course you could have slept with two 10/10's so the rule doesn't always apply But I've seen no evidence in my own life, nor …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:31 AM
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lol definatly not, especially not with a new partner
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 12:28 AM
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SMP and SMV : Definitely exist, there are different levels of objective attractiveness for both genders, and generally hot girls hook up with hot guys, average gets with average etc. Although of course individuals have preferences for different looks so its not entirely objective AF/BB: Sort of agree it exists, but think TRP is overly obsessed with it. Yes there are hot guys who aren't nice (AF) and nice guys who aren't hot (BB), but the dichotomy isn't as sharp IRL CC:Attitudes to casual sex va…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 01:18 AM
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Most guys are neither 6'4 alpha jock player whatever types NOR socially awkward weirdos, they're just normal people. And a lot of normal, average looking men and women sleep around in their twenties before settling down to start a family later on. Its not some massive conspiracy And ugly, fat, socially awkward women aren't getting laid all the time either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 01:11 AM
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Im not red pill, and whilst I wouldn't be chill I wouldn't dump the guy - it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 09:57 PM
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Id be really shocked, and slightly disbelieving because that would be a really high number for a guy in the age range I'd be dating I wouldn't break up with him but id be concerned that he would get bored of monogamy and break up with me, so Id have to have a serious talk about where we both saw the relationship going. But it wouldn't affect his attracted I was to him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 08:08 PM
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I agree, the guys i grew up with and was friends with in college all seemed to hookup relatively easily (obviously i don't know all the details), mainly because they were confident and popular So a lot of the anger and desperation I see from guys on reddit towards the dating scene was new to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 05:49 PM
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This is completely true, and I do it a lot although i never thought about in this way until I read your comment. Playing dumb means you don't have to explicitly turn guys down and risk them getting angry or being labelled a bitch But inside I think most girls are quite astute at reading when guys are sexually interested, although they would never admit this for fear of seeming conceited
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 12:54 PM
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Yes Yes No No 21
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 01:56 AM
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1) Manipulation 2) Neither. Not getting what you want (hot sex) isn't abuse, its just a bit shit 3)Abuse, manipulation, obviously reprehensible 4) A healthy way to have sex? No one should have sex when they don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 01:11 AM
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how did you get all your own drinks, two of hers, a ticket to a comedy show and half a home cooked meal for under twenty dollars?! Im british but that seems insanely cheap ...
/r/askTRP19/11/15 12:09 AM
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Just be like "hope you had a good time the other night! Want To go for a drink later this week"
/r/seduction13/11/15 08:57 PM
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I had a boyfriend for about eight months whilst I was bar tending, and it didnt make his SMV erode for me at all Instead I felt like I saw the worst side of men in a lot of cases - creepy, rude, cheating on girlfriends, drunk etc - which actually made me feel lucky to have a guy who wasn't like that However it did make it very easy to move on after the relationship ended because I had my pick of dates anytime I went in to work, much more so than in my day to day life so for that reason I probabl…
/r/askTRP17/08/15 02:56 PM
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I bartender for about 2/3 years on and off in bars and nightclus known for having "hot bartenders" or whatever, and honestly your description of the SMP on steroids is totally true. I got hit on so much more as a bartender than i ever did as a customer - some nights 90% of customers would try to chat you up, and an average weekend night i got about 6-10+ numbers, date offers etc. It definitely does raise your perception of your own SMV to be hit on in this way regularly which is a consideration …
/r/askTRP17/08/15 11:44 AM
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