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Why? Why on earth would you even begin to defend the OP and argue against your own gender? One thing I do admire about women is how they circle the wagons when it comes to this kind of thing I disagree, I am individualistic and I don't care about male strangers more than I care about female strangers, it isn't like I have to identify with a male collective or a collective that represents my race, I hate that tribal behavior and I don't respect women who engage with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:54 PM
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If women like you were men, you'd be incels, you're not better than incels and you're not necessarily less toxic than them, you're just privileged and don't want to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:51 PM
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Men have to work harder than women in dating, which is unacceptable, both sexes should have it equally hard, therefore we can say women do in fact have standards that are too high. Women can have the standards they want but we can also judge those standards with our free speech, and I accurately judge their standards as shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:43 AM
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Darwinism is the elimination of the genetical inferiority, for example if a bird is born with a beak that has big flaws the bird will be less likely to survive and reproduce. Last time I checked humans can't choose their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:31 AM
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The only solution is to genetically modify humans so that they can't have sexual desire, reproduce human beings by using banks of sperm and then illegalizing sex. The only way to eliminate sexual inequality is to eliminate human sexuality and natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:27 AM
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A woman who can't support me in my weak moments is not a potential girlfriend, not even a potential friend, a woman like that is only useful to fuck and then forget about her simple as, the only value a woman like that has is her pussy. People who can't support me in my weak moments are not friends, they don't deserve to be treated like friends because they are disgusting people, they're just tools, means to an end, I show them my unauthentic strong self, and that's how I get them to do things f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:32 PM
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Why exactly do you call them weak? Is it weak to be interested in someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:05 PM
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I'm a 21M virgin and things like that really make me lose hope, but that's how the sexual market works, I have talked to women and even befriended some, but when you're not attractive, it's the end of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:32 AM
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It never happened to me, must be cool to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:15 PM
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Women have a right to have the superficial prefferences they want but we also have a right to judge them for that (we can judge freely because we have freedom of speech), and we can accurately reffer to their prefferences as utterly superficial. My sexless life experience also taught me that looks are the most important thing for women nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:06 PM
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If I become fit and as a result I attract women, I will only use them for sex, but I will never love people who have the audacity of being that shallow, such shallowness offends me and hurts my sensibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:59 PM
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If doesn't matter if it's misogynistic, if only matters whether it's true or not, let's be objective and brutally honest here. Women aren't trophies, but if you constantly crave sex and can't get it, and on the other hand you see the stereotypical bad boys achieving your DREAMS, getting all the sex you've always dreamt of, of course you're going to think "if treating women that way will give me sex as a result, maybe I should start doing exactly that".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:21 PM
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Glad to see someone seriously trying to prove that, once again, contrary to popular belief, women are wayyy more superficial than men (especially when they are young), that's why it's statistically harder to find a fat virgin woman than a fat virgin man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:52 PM
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You know what's even wronger? Accepting what bluepillers say without testing it scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:43 PM
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In other words, average women don't want to be with average men (although that's what they technically "deserve" if we get meritocratic here), which is the very definition of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:57 AM
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It must be soooo easy to judge virgin men for not being able to go through something you will never have to face yourself but still have the audacity to tell others to go through it in the best way possible. It must be incredibly fun to judge virgin men from your position of privilege. Here's the thing: it's pretty normal to judge others for their prefferences if their prefferences, women judge men for preffering younger women even if those women are already adults, so we are going to judge wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:39 AM
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No it’s not 🤣 if that were the case, then we wouldn’t see so many men crying online about being virgins 😬 Yeah, it must be amazing to not have to do anything as a woman to have sex, and from that position of privilege, judge virgin men. You wouldn't do much better in our position, you only have it better than us because of luck and not because of merit, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:35 AM
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If you have to go to the gym to get a girlfriend, that also counts as paying, because you're paying a price, and not a little one. Sex is never free and it's a capitalistic market, the love of a woman has to be BOUGHT.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:31 AM
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Men want a confident, stable, kind, interesting women who has great self-respect and takes relationships seriously. Talk for yourself lol, many men actually are toxic themselves and are attracted to toxicity in women, in fact the vast majority of men think X, say Y and then do Z, and the same with women, that's why you don't hear what people say, you observe what they do. OP is based, all people are liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:43 AM
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Because women get pregnant and men don't, so men are confortable even if an ugly woman stares at them thinking about dirty things, because that woman isn't going to get them pregnant, men don't have to live with this constant fear of getting pregnant from the wrong person all the time and they will never understand how it is like for women to live with this constant fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:27 PM
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There is a big difference between loving a person with the condition of that person not commiting an atrocious crime, and loving a person with the condition of being richer than you and physically attractive. You don't have to be a genius to see it. Men are also uncapable of loving unconditionally, but the love men give is waaayyy more unconditional than the love women give, that's why it's statistically harder to find a fat virgin woman than a fat virgin man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:57 PM
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What kind of parents do you have? Parents are supposed to love their children even if their children don't give anything, you have to be a very bad child for your parents to stop loving you, but you don't have to be a bad person for women to not desire you, you just have to have a low price as a product in the sexual market and that's how you'll be involuntary sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:02 PM
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Another evidence that women are uncapable of giving romantic love without expecting something in return, they will only love us if they find a way to use us, their love always has conditions, it's never real authentic love, I don't know why many men give their unconditional love to women, imagine giving unconditional love to a creature that isn't going to reciprocate with the same unconditional love. Unconditional love is something everyone wants to receive but noone wants to give, we are a self…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:00 AM
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The difference is that we recognize the unfairness of world hunger while recognizing that it's not ok and we should do something to eliminate that problem, which is a completely different attitude than what you're promoting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:09 PM
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You, as a woman, can get sex for free, so why shouldn't a man have the same possibility? It must be incredibly easy to judge virgin men from your position of privilege where you don't have to change to get a man who is changing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:38 PM
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What it seems like men truly want is to live their regular life & still be able to attract women in the way that women attract men, without any effort. Lol why does it seem like you think the fact women can get sex for free and men can't is ok and we should just shut up and accept it? Your idea of justice looks horrible. I'm not gonna accept such inequality of life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:35 PM
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You don't hate men because you're sexually privileged and don't have to face sexual scarcity, but I bet you wouldn't do much better than us if you were in our position. It's very easy to judge us from your position of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:30 PM
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You’ll find quickly there are just as many unattractive men with partners as attractive. When I do that observation excercise, I find out only attractive men (or at least men who are more attractive than me) get girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:23 PM
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Ok, got it, women won't care about men's problems, but then, why does society condemn me if I don't give a shit about women's problems? Problems like beauty standards that affect women, stereotypes, etc. why should I care about them at all? I will care about women's problems only if, as an exchange, women also put an effort into caring about our problems. This has to be reciprocal!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:17 PM
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Yeah, I'm one of those universally undesirable men, and women will never understand how much it sucks. The ugly truth is that women are uncapable of giving romantic love without receiving something in return. When it comes to dating, people are selfish and only care about what you have to offer, which means that sex is a capitalistic market in which people are products with a price, and the more you have to offer (physical appearance, status, lifestyle, fun, etc.) the higher your price. Free sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:12 PM
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True, women are horrible, but not because they are women, they are horrible because they are humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:06 PM
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I think men do this kind of selection sometimes, but less often than women. Men also use the opposite sex to get these social points almost as much as women, it's instictive, the difference is that women get social points through their relationship history, but men earn social points though their sexual history, which explains this difference that you observe. Other than that, good observation, and all people should be aware of this phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:53 AM
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Yeah, of course it's easy to not be needy when you can get laid all the time, the same way it's very easy to not feel desperate for food when you can eat three times a day. The only reason you can judge us needy men is because you are in a position of unearned priviledge just for being a woman, but I don't think you would do much better than us if you had to be in our place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:01 PM
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The only men who are going to do that, are men who are sexually frustrated and can't reject a girl in the first place, because no girl considers them an option. For example me, I'm a 21yo virgin and I think I'm going to die a virgin, and me refusing to sleep with women wouldn't change anything. Maybe we should start giving less respect to men who can have sex with many women, that could change something because it will give them less power, although it wouldn't be enough. Women have an unfair se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:59 PM
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Cool, but the fact you liked it doesn't mean everyone would like it, many men either would dislike it a little bit or just wouldn't care at all. That attention is still not the same as attention from women, unless you're gay or bi.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:52 PM
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If you received attention from gay men, it wouldn't count, because that's not the attention you want, the same happens when women receive attention from non-chads, it doesn't count, their brain doesn't even consider those people "men".
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:54 AM
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I mention abortion because it isan example of a ""right"" that men are expected to be taxed for, even though it's not men's problem, so it shows how women use the "it's not my problem" argument only when it's convenient for their selfish interests. Also, men aren't entitled to sex, but maybe you would be an incel if you were a man, getting laid as a man can be harder than getting an engineering degree and I bet you would lose your mind if you had to spend at least 5 years as an unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:46 AM
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Commiting homicide inside your own womb is not a human right, because a human right can't be based on the elimination of the rights of another person, and the fact that an authority figure calls it a "right" doesn't change that, at best it would be a misnomer. Why do I have to pay taxes for that? It's not my problem, I wasn't the one who got pregnant because of my own irresponsibility, it's just not my responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:17 AM
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But it's undeniable that culture has an influence on our prefferences, that's kind of why many men who are considered inferior and sexually undesirable in America have success dating overseas, different culture means different prefferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:07 AM
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You are assuming that men can't get girlfriends because they aren't "vulnerable" enough, or because they are sexist, but you fail to realize that plenty of sexist men have success dating and getting laid and, in the other hand, plenty of nice men are universally rejected and considered unkissable by women. Don't you realize that if you were a man, you could be an incel? The only reason you have it so easy in dating is because you are a woman and women have it waayyy easier when it comes to havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:04 AM
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You can say this about absolutely everything, about any character trait, spark, anything... And that is precisely why it doesn't make sense to say that you don't care about what the other person provides or has to offer, at some point you care, unconditional love doesn't exist, there are conditions like don't be too ugly, too fat, too boring, too short, too inferior, etc. Sex is a market, a transaction, it has to be bought either with money or months at the gym and improving your social skills, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:53 PM
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Good joke, you're pretty original (this is a joke isn't it?).
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 07:37 AM
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Yeah but women are always expected to be loved as they are. That's just what you FEEL from the man's POV, but women usually feel the opposite. The truth is that both perspectives are wrong, everybody has a "price" in the sexual market, nobody is loved unconditionaly, women aren't loved completely unconditionally, but they are loved in a more "unconditional" way than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:10 AM
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His looks and fitness are also part of what he provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:07 AM
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Lol yes, women are so priviledged (sexually) that if you think about it, it's pretty easy to become a model as a woman, compared to how hard it is to become a male model. Men's standards of beauty are way heavier but society keeps ignoring it, as though we couldn't see the obvious, this society is insane.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 10:36 PM
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Many women are as toxic as incels and are not particularly attractive or fit, and they are not discipline, yet they can get laid easily, women just don't face any conditions or requirements in order to get their instincts satisfied, when it comes down to sex women play life on easy mode, and many of them would be resentful incels if they were men of course, in fact I wish some of them were punished by having to spend at least 5 years as a poor unattractive man so they can learn a life lesson, so…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 10:25 PM
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Incels are not toxic Lol go look what they post on websites like .is and tell me they aren't toxic, they are toxic they are just playing the victim. This doesn't mean that they would get laid if they weren't toxic, plenty of toxic assholes get laid anyways so it isn't only a personality problem.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 03:10 AM
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She would be an incel if she was a man lol, she's lucky to be a woman, the only reason she can get laid even though even I mog her physically is because she's a woman and all women are sexually priviledged, but she is toxic and ugly just like incels.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 09:34 PM
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It's called ALL pill debate, so even bluepillers are invited here, if you don't like it then this isn't the sub for you, it seems like you don't want to debate ideas you just want your opinions to be validated unconditionally, an echo chamber is what you're searching for.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 08:05 PM
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It happens, but not as much, the fact that it's s statistically easier to find fat virgin men than fat virgin women shows that when it comes to sex women discriminate on physical appearance way more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:59 AM
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Many fat women only want to sleep with fit men, that's an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:29 PM
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Yes, I am jealous of women because they are sexually priviledged, and I do hate being a man and I think being a man is something so hard and unfair that noone should have to go through such a horrible thing. That said, it's not fair to ignore the fact that men have it objectively harder than women when it comes to sex and romance just because admiting it is "unattractive", because even if saying it makes you unattractive, it's still the truth and deserves to be told. Women judge lonely virgin me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:00 AM
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The fact this inequality is "evolutionarily necessary" doesn't eliminate the fact it's unfair, and also women nowadays want to receive without being willing to give in return, which feeds their narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:35 AM
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You're completely right, why do men give any attention to bullies? The popular kids are only popular because we make them popular with OUR ATTENTION, we have the power to give power to other people, so why do we give so much attention and power to douchebags, instead of ostracizing them and forcing them to live without any form of human contact? Imagine if all men agreed on showing disgust towards these inferior human beings and ostracizing them, the world would be much better. As a man I someti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:27 AM
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Do NOT speak with him again, ignore him, each time he starts with his bullshit look at him with eyes of deep disgust and leave, never help him, never treat him like a human being, ignore he exists, he doesn't deserve to be popular among men and each man who gives him basic human attention is betraying our gender by giving attention to someone who treats us like shit, he deserves to suffer isolation as much as possible, being treated like the trash he is, he has to feel the indifference and the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:23 AM
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Sometimes we do have to defend ourselves from dangerous generalizations, and there comes the "not all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:06 AM
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I don't think what you're saying makes sense. First of all, men and women want to be loved unconditionaly, but unconditional romantic love doesn't exist because romance always has conditions, people are uncapable of giving romantic love without expecting something in return, romance is a transaction, sex is a capitalistic market, the sexual market, and people are products with a price, and if you want success in romance you will have to rise your price by improving yourself. You should never giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:01 AM
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That's the nonsensical culture we live nowadays, criticizing him as though they didn't have prefferences too, most women's prefferences are high and would be even higher if they were rich just like this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:03 AM
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That's the nonsensical culture we live nowadays, criticizing him as though they didn't have prefferences too, most women's prefferences are high and would be even higher if they were rich just like this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:47 PM
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You're right, it seems they are giving an opinion based on stereotypes about inc-ls than about the reality. I bet most men who have to live a sexless life against their will normally shower just like normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:43 AM
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Women don't have to pay a price as high, for them sex and affection are practically free, they are sexually priviledged, if I was a woman my sexual frustration would be immediately solved. It is true that men aren't able to give unconditional love either, that's why I stopped believing in "true love" and accepted a more dark and nihilistic paradigm of sexual market, however, men have less of a shallow checklist than women, the love men give isn't completely unconditional, but it's way more uncon…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:37 AM
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One sex costs either paying for escorts or: A strong muscular body Social skills and charisma that are gotten with years of experience and trying conversations and friendships with men and women Economical independence and good income Status Seeming above her level or league (hypergamy) Alpha male character. Masculine character. Seeming strong enough to win a fight Experience trying and failing, facing rejection and learning through all the painful process Did I forget something? Women don't hav…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:31 AM
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Women want to receive unconditional love without having to give it, because they think they deserve it just for existing, you can hear them screaming "I know what I deserve, I know my worth"... I fucking hate the fact that our culture encourages those narcissistic tendencies.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 07:01 PM
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Agree. At least when it comes to raw sexual desire, looks are the #1 factor, but you have some control over your looks, you just have to improve your price and understand that if you don't hit the gym no girl will love you.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:57 PM
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Althoughhhhh having a man who has some aspects of aggression isn’t entirely bad lol. Female nature at it's purest. You love badboys just admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:16 PM
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Inc-ls aren't going to improve themselves because of bullying, I've never seen any story of an inc-l improving himself because of that, bullying almost always only makes the situation worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:15 PM
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My point is that being shy, fat or ugly doesn't necesarily imply you're not a decent person, a virgin can be a decent person but still end up in involuntary virginity all his life. Fat: if we're not talking about obesity here, again, not a reason big enough to be a virgin at this age. Nahhh, you don't need to be obese to be involuntary sexless all your life, you just need to lack a six pack, women truly underestimate how perfect a man has to be to not end up being involuntary sexless, since wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:44 PM
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Either because if it was a decent person, he/she would have had a relationship by now. Incredibly wrong assumption. A decent man who is short, fat, ugly or shy is still going to have zero opportunities dating and not because he lacks decency, and in the other hand, plenty of rude undecent people get laid all the time, decency has nothing to do with attractiveness. It is dangerous to assume that old virgins necesarily lack decency, it is dangerous to assume things out of people you don't know wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:56 PM
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No. They can have sex with better looking men, even they have better options, so why would I even try?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:28 PM
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Videos like these show that if you don't have looks, you don't have anything to attract women, personality only starts to matter after having the looks. It doesn't make sense that women call us men superficial, when we have to suffer having less sexual opportunities specifically for our looks, ugly women get laid all the time, but ugly men have it harder.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:12 PM
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To remind people that women have more abundance of sexual opportunities because of luck and priviledge, not because of merit or because they are better people than men somehow.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:05 PM
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Plenty of women don't do casual sex, but plenty of women have a life with abundance of casual sex, which means that if NO woman wants to have casual sex with you, then you are universally repulsive sexually speaking. That's how I realize I'm repulsive and undesirable and I have to accept my inferiority.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 11:29 PM
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I have to admit that's a good point actually. This makes me remember that sex is just a capitalistic market, we all are products with a price in that market, the higher your price the more quality people are going to desire you, I don't know why people even talk about unconditional romantic love, romantic love can't be unconditional, you always have to give something in return, what we call "romantic love" is just a capitalistic market of mutual exchange based on selfish interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:38 PM
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Who told men that being nice will get them laid Movies, fairytales, culture, stupid moralists out there who say that looks don't matter and improving them isn't necesary, grandmothers, females friends and, especially, women in general. Redpillers say the opposite, they say that women like assholes and are turned off by niceness, but that isn't true either, niceness isn't necesarily a turn on and it isn't necesarily a turn off either, at best, niceness can be a little plus because some women (not…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:03 PM
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It is still easier to find a fat woman with a serious relationship than a fat man in a serious relationship, unless the man has a lot of money, but in my college that's what I see everyday, fat men aren't an option for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:11 AM
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There are wayyyy more fat women not willing to date fat men than fat men not willing to date fat women. Contrary to popular believe, women are way more shallow than men, men are shallow but not to the point of making sex impossible for fat women, even fat women have opportunities to have sex but fat men are usually forced to live a sexless life against their will, it's statistically easier to find a fat virgin man than a fat virgin woman. What you're saying makes zero sense, women are the first …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:26 AM
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Don’t just look around at all the shorter, balding, chinless, acne ridden, lazy eyed, pudgy, fashionless, squeaky voiced, dumb, boring, poor, unemployed, remarkably ordinary guys in relationships Those guys are rare, most guys who can have sex with a non-zero amount of women are attractive, at least way more attractive than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:30 AM
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In order to have sex, you have to have something to offer. This I agree with. And that means that some men will have more to offer than others, which means those men will have a higher value in the sexual market, so that's why it doesn't make sense to pretend that there isn't a sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:27 AM
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Who wrote this? A woman? I ask because women often don't know how it feels like to be sexually undesirable by all the people in the universe at the same time without even one single exception. There are men who literally have zero options and that's because they don't have enough value, which proves that there is a market in which you have to have enough value or enough "price" as a product to be desired by a non-zero amount of women. These men know that there is a capitalistic sexual market bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:58 AM
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That's not true, men desire a variety of women and that's why it's easier to find fat men who are virgins than fat women who are virgins, a woman always has options because of how easy it is for them to be sexually desired no matter how much they don't improve themselves or even their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:48 AM
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Because you've invented persecution of sex that doesn't really exist, at least not in the way you're describing it. He didn't invent that, some families just suck at sex ed that much, he is a result of his family and environment 🤷🏽‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:22 PM
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I wish I could have a hoe phase. Sadly, I'm a virgin against my will.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 10:18 PM
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I feel good for you, I wish I could be satisfied just with escorts and money, but I'm not sure if I could. I hate myself.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 07:17 AM
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No woman is going to be horny for somebody like me, you have to have an acceptable level of attractiveness if you want any woman to be horny for you, so the principles of the capitalistic sexual market still apply in that case.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 07:11 AM
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Yeah, women only care about what they can get as an exchange, they are biologically unable to give romantic love without receiving in return something that satisfies their selfish interests, but men shouldn't hate women for that because men are the fucking same, romantic love doesn't fucking exist, all of this is just a transaction, an exchange of benefits.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:44 PM
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People are going to judge you for everything, especially women, their favorite sport is to judge men for everything they can, they literally wake up thinking "today I feel like criticizing men out of nowhere" and then search for things on the internet that make them angry at men, like feminist content or something like that. You should be the best version of yourself, work on being better each day and let people who want to judge you judge you and let people who like you like you, don't try to c…
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:38 PM
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So how did you even get a partner if your partner wasn't allowed to show his sexual interest at any point of his life? You can't condemn people for trying, unless they are disrespectful and can't take rejection of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:33 PM
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It makes sense to admire men who are promiscuous, because getting laid if you're a man is very hard, and doing hard things repeatedly is admirable, at the same time, getting laid as a woman is not hard at all and that's why it shouldn't be admired. I'm not saying we should admire promiscuity on men, I'm just saying it makes sense why people admire those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:24 PM
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Men should still complain, because the fact that you have to be fit, put too much effort and become practically perfect in order to have the possibility to be with a fat woman who didn't put that same effort is unfair. Also, we are all products with a price, the only way to become attractive to women is to improve your price as a product, as an object in the capitalistic sexual market, you have to pay something in order to get romantic love, this means that it's not only false that true romantic…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:37 PM
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The thing is that, if you ever have a partner, AT SOME POINT you will have to show sexual interest, it's either that or remain single forever, there can't exist any method of getting a girlfriend that doesn't imply showing sexual interest AT SOME POINT.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:38 AM
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So, according to this, women are dating the guys they truly want more easily than men are dating the women they truly want, and that's why there is a diversity of women who can date but not a diversity of men who can, and that means that women have a priviledge in the sexual market that men don't. This still means that, when it comes to dating, women are playing on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:18 PM
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There is another good hypothesis: Women have made it extremely clear that they DO NOT want to get approached by a man they don't want, approaching a women in a slightly wrong way can end up having legal consequences that could put any men in jail easily. Women have the power of putting a man in jail just because he ACCIDENTALLY made her uncomfortable. That's a better answer, it's not always men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:57 PM
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Sadly, dating is a selfish game, that means that women are not going to have empathy to men's sexual scarcity, because they are playing the selfish game and they only care about their own interest. You shouldn't even be surprised about the response you got. I wish all those people who are indifferent to the pain of those good men who don't have any other option had to be in their shoes and live sexual scarcity themselves, because for these sexually priviledged people, it's very easy to judge tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:36 PM
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Why are you assuming that those men who are struggling to get romantic interest are necesarily "horrible" people? You don't know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:28 PM
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I wish people with low empathy like yourself had to be in the position of those men who don't have other options, because the main reason you have a better situation than them is pure luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:25 PM
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Why should we be scared of artificial wombs? They are an amazing idea. I think people are just afraid of things that are too different, humans are sooo simple. I wish, in the future, people were sterilized, and the only way to have a child was through an artificial womb, but in order to have a child you would have to have a license that guarantees that you are mentally and economically stable and have the capacity to have a child, no more accidental pregnancies, no more toxic families, no more p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:23 PM
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I want to live in the same reality people who have access to sex and don't have it hard to get a kiss once a year live.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:01 AM
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Women complain about men's shallowness all the time, and it would make sense if they weren't shallow themselves, but the truth is that women are more shallow than men, because men are shallow but not to the point of making sex impossible for fat women, fat women can still get laid, but a man can't have any access to any sexual experience whatsoever if he isn't attractive enough. Very hipocritical from women to complain about shallowness when they are the most shallow gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:27 AM
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YOU CANNOT BE FAT! BEING A FAT MAN IS A DEATH SENTENCE FOR YOUR DATING LIFE. Absolutely, that's what men have to face and I wish women had to face the same pressure just so they could comprehend us. Women face some pressure for being fat, but they still can have sex, so it's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:11 AM
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This comment perfectly demonstrates how women want us to have empathy for their struggles while not making an effort for being reciprocal and having empathy for our struggles and pain too. If women don't care about this SERIOUS problem, then why should we care about things like how beauty standards affect women psychologically?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:49 AM
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Yeah, it's very easy to judge those men from your position of priviledge and sexual abundance, it's very easy to judge how others handle their struggles when you aren't the one facing those struggles, but I don't think you would do much better if you were in their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:46 AM
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Exactly, it's women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:36 AM
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Lmao well sounds like your life just sucks🤷🏼‍♀️ That doesn't necesarily mean I'm wrong. And I don't have a defeatist mindset, I'm not the one saying there's something wrong with me for being an adult virgin and I should give up because of that, it was you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:32 PM
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I don’t know why you keep using the word “patriarchy.” I have not once used that term I wanted to point out the hipocrisy of women blaming the patriarchy for expectations for men, when those expectations come from women,not from men. Honestly bro you have a defeatist victim mindset, and that is why you can’t get laid. Another thing that keeps people like me from getting sex is people assuming there's something wrong with us because we were late bloomers. There is a deadline, you have to lose you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:35 AM
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young girls don’t care. You were the one who said that you cared. Yes, men put pressure to other men, but men don't cut the access to sex and relationships to virgin men, its women like you the ones who do it, women can have the standards they want but those standards have sociological consequences on men, and the pressure men have to not be virgins and follow a certain predetermined timeline before they are 25yo or something, is a consequence of women, not of the patriarchy, because saying it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:51 AM
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I'll just say that what you see is completely different than what I see, going outside makes me feel ugly people can't have access to sex, I only see attractive men with girls, it's almost always what I see. Maybe we focuse on different things, but I can't see any other different than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:46 AM
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I complain about not getting sex and being an adult virgin, but I don't think women owe me sex and I don't want to sleep with a woman who sleeps with me because she feels forced to instead of because she wants me, I want to feel wanted, if I wanted to sleep with someone who doesn't desire me, I'd pay a prostitute. But the point is, that I wasn't even talking about that, I wasn't talking about entitlement, about women owing me sex, about my virginity, that completely misses the point, I was just …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:38 AM
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How old are you? Seriously? When did I say women OWE sex to anyone? What I'm saying is that many women who believe they deserve a good man just for existing don't think men deserve a good woman just for existing, these women think men have to work to get their worth but women don't, they think this unconsciously but it shows when they talk about the men they don't find attractive, and that's what I find very stupid, hipocritical, illogical and contradictorial, that's where the double standard is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:09 AM
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Then we can say those men don't have worth in the sexual market. And the thing is that many women who believe they deserve a good man just for existing don't think men deserve a good woman just for existing, these women think men have to work to get their worth but women don't, they think this unconsciously but it shows when they talk about the men they don't find attractive, and that's what I find very stupid, hipocritical, illogical and contradictorial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:07 AM
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But that's the point you're missing - they DO have self-worth and value just by existing. And when it comes to taking on a male partner, he DOESN'T have value to her just by existing. You seem to say that women have value just for existing and men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:59 AM
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So, you put an effort into your attractiveness to like yourself and be liked by whoever might be compatible with you and therefore a possibly good option to get to know? What about the people who don't work on themselves? if they don't like themselves, then compatible people who like the same things, aren't going to be interested precisely because they like the same things and dislike the same things and therefore they dislike what the first ones dislike about themselves? Or how do you interpret…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:47 AM
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I love feminists saying that men suffer too much pressure with their virginity because of a non-existent "patriarchy", while comments like this show that said pressure only comes from women themselves and their strict prefferences and severe judgements about men, but it seems women can't admit it's not always men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:53 AM
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I don't know but I wish women had to suffer the same pressure and severe judgement than us, they deserve it. Disgusting to see women judging men who aren't even bad people as losers from their position of sexual priviledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:49 AM
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Many women think they deserve a high quality man without themselves being high quality women, they think they deserve it just for existing, but that "I deserve it just for existing" principle only applies to women, because when men want to be loved just for existing without being willing to give anything in return, they call those men immature and manchilds even though those women want exactly the same. So, if you want to be loved unconditionaly, but you think you are the one who can put conditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:17 PM
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Maybe you have a point on saying that different men can offer different forms of worth and rejection doesn't necesarily invalidate that worth, but you're talking as if attractiveness was entirely subjective and it was only a matter of compatibility to get a partner, and maybe that's how it works for attractive women since they always have options, but there are men who are universally undesirable and are forced to live a sexually inactive life against their will, and they don't have to be bad pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:47 AM
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You're talking as if attractiveness was entirely subjective and it was only a matter of compatibility to get a partner. Maybe that's how reality works for attractive women since they always have options, but any good observer can realize attractiveness is only subjective to some extent, not entirely, there are men who are universally undesirable and are forced to live a sexually inactive life against their will, and they don't have to be bad persons to get to that level, some men are just not ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:10 AM
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No one ever said this ? Wtf A lot of women want a 10/10 without putting any work, because they think they deserve it, even though they are not willing to earn it through work, and a lot of women encourage themselves to have high standards this way, it's something that you can observe quite frequently on social media. It's about attraction, you said it yourself, not attracted. You're the one seeing a value judgment Well, good point, however, I see some women actually dare to make said value judge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:45 AM
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And furthermore, nobody is owed any “worth” in dating. I didn't say the opposite. Any person determining their own self worth and dating preferences is perfectly fine, regardless of how it may affect the chances of their potential partners. But if you're a woman and you say that your "innate" value is enough to get the man you want, and at the same time you consider those unattractive men who are attracted to you as men who don't have enough value for you, then you are applying the "I deserve it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:44 AM
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There is a significant amount of men who are forced to live a sexually inactive life against their will because they can't find even one woman who could be their girlfriend, and not all of these men are bad people, some are decent people but they are just not enough for women. No man is attractive for all women at the same time, some men are attractive for some compatible women, and some other men are attractive for nobody. If attractiveness is subjective then, tell me, what do you think about "…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:18 AM
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I didn't say their worth was determined by the men they fuck, I just explained how flawed the concept of self-worth women use is, it's so flawed that they believe they have worth just by existing, but that same sense of self-worth makes them believe the unattractive men that want them don't have that same worth just by existing. Yes, because you are a male existing in the Animal Kingdom. Take it up with mother nature - it's important that females get pregnant but it's not important that every ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:29 AM
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You're talking as if attractiveness was entirely subjective and it was only a matter of compatibility to get a partner. Maybe that's how reality works for attractive women since they always have options, but any good observer can realize attractiveness is only subjective to some extent, not entirely, there are men who are universally undesirable and they don't have to be bad persons to get to that level, some men are just not physically attractive enough, masculine enough or have enough status. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:35 AM
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I'm just explaining how women don't realize that, by considering themselves good enough, they end up saying things like "I won't date ugly guys because I know my worth and they are not enough for me", which means that, by believing in their worth, they end up believing those unattractive men can't have that same worth, by believing they are enough, these women believe those men are not enough, by believing they deserve a man they are attracted to, these women believe these men don't deserve to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:57 PM
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I never talked about entitlement in this post, I'm just explaining how women don't realize that, by considering themselves good enough, they end up saying things like "I won't date ugly guys because I know my worth and they are not enough for me", which means that, by believing in their worth, they end up believing those unattractive men can't have that same worth, by believing they are enough, these women believe those men are not enough, by believing they deserve a man they are attracted to, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:45 PM
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Well, you can modify your perceived worth (which is different than your "real" worth) by showing that you trust in that worth, but it's still true that a woman has to judge whether or not you have enough worth as a man for her before giving you a chance. I've seen women saying things like "I don't date ugly broke men because I know my worth and I know what I deserve", which means that, in the process of believing in their worth, they also contradict the worth of those ugly broke men who are "not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:22 PM
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The thing is that, if you believe in your worth and you have standards, that means that the people that don't meet those standards are going to be not good enough for you, which means that your sense of self worth contradicts other people's sense of self worth. This maybe makes sense if you have to work for your worth, but many women believe their "innate" worth, the worth they have just for existing, is enough to get the kind of men they want, and in the process they end up indirectly saying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:03 PM
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If you say something like "I'm not going to date an ugly person because I have self-esteem and deserve better", when your self-esteem contradicts the self-esteem of the person you consider not good enough, because by believing in your worth, you're also saying that person doesn't have that worth. That's an example of how your self-esteem can contradict other person's self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:53 PM
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Being a betabuxx is humiliating, if I wanted to have sex with someone who doesn't desire me, I would become rich and pay as many prostitutes as I can, I would love to earn enough money to pay a prostitute each day and have regular animalistic sex, it wouldn't be better than actually being attractive and good enough for women, but it's way better than being a humiliated, inferior cucked betabuxx.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 07:19 PM
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Depends on how well she can respond to people who think differently, most feminists in those situations respond very immaturely and with a huge hostility, which is insufferable for me, I wouldn't ever date someone like that.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 07:16 PM
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I mean, she INICIATES blowjobs with you, I think she's actually attracted to you and she really desires you, I think it's better to ignore what happened but at the same time be careful and attentive to avoid being actually used or cheated on in the future. But for now, it seems she really desires you and she wants to wait for sex because she doesn't want to commit another mistake or because she thinks you're going to judge her more than the previous man so she has to act like she isn't a slut. B…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 10:50 PM
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People (not just men) are incapable of giving romantic love without expecting something in return. For example, women are not going to love you if you're not attractive, strong, have good social skills and have good status, women have to perceive they get something in return. Dating is a fucking market, and we all are products with a price, and the higher your price, the better your opportunities will be in dating, this isn't just men's fault, it's human nature. Sorry for being so nihilistic, bu…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 10:12 PM
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Blackpilled incels are allergic to debate lol, they don't like it when their ideas are challenged.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 06:58 AM
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One of the main reasons of this disaster is that many men are nowadays rised by single mothers, and a woman can't teach a man how to be a man, she can teach him how to be a good person in general, but not how to be a good man, because she never was a man herself and therefore she lacks the experience necesary to teach a young man how to adapt to a man's life and man's problems. The other reason is that we now expect too much equality, we don't like the idea of men doing all the effort to attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:41 AM
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Because it indirectly means you probably want to have sex with other people and that's why you wear in that way, that's why you put clothes specifically made to catch sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:17 AM
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Good point. It's not bad to approach, but you shouldn't depend on her reacting a specific way, because her reaction is going to be very random, maybe she might react differently, because she doesn't owe you her interest, but that shouldn't stop you from at least trying in a non-needy way, and accepting rejection if it happens. But no matter how good you try to do it, sometimes things don't end up well, and sometimes you are going to make her accidentally uncomfortable, but if you really have emp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:51 PM
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What do you think is the reason you had opportunities to date while other men have to accept living a sexually inactive life against their will? What made you attractive as a person enough to have access to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:36 PM
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If all women, experienced AND inexperienced women, at the same time, universally agree on preffering experienced men, that means that any woman would possibly sleep with an inexperienced man only if that was her only option, but since all of them have the potential to be desired by an experienced man who wants to fuck them, that means that an inexperienced man doesn't have any option. You can have whatever prefference you want, but people's prefferences have consequences over other people's opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:59 PM
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Inexperienced women want experience men too, and they can get those men, it's not like they don't have the opportunity of sleeping with an experience men who wants to fuck them, men who are repulsed by inexperience in women are actually rare, most men don't care or even fetishize it, but women care a lot. Inexperienced women have more reasons to want to be with an experienced men who can guide them, so that's it, there aren't many alternatives for virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:48 PM
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And yes, flirting, reading signals, being smith etc. takes practice but what’s stopping you? What's stopping us?? Well, people like you who are sexually repulsed by virgins, I need experience to get girls but I need girls to get experience, and this is a mathematical paradox that doesn't have any solution, the only solution is giving up, accepting that I'm not good enough for women because I'm inexperienced and paradoxically I can't get more experienced until I stop being inexperienced before (?…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:00 AM
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Sometimes when you know you're ugly, poor or just not good enough to have a girlfriend, you know that if you approach any woman you will receive at best indifferent rejection and at worst being called creepy or even harasser. Approaching doesn't seem to be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:40 PM
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But almost all women here in this post say they would never be attracted to an obese man, that's how important looks are, and that contradicts what the bluepill says about "personality", so yeah, the bluepill is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:20 PM
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How can you admit looks are THIS important and still be bluepill? When it comes to sexless men, their personality isn't always the problem...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:15 AM
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This is NOT a redpill subreddit, it's "purplepill", which means it's a subreddit meant to have both bluepillers and redpillers participating in healthy debate. If you're a feminist, you can participate here too. Maybe not for blackpillers though, mods just don't tolerate them. And he's saying that he preffers chubbier women, that's his prefference, that's what turns him on, but of course, going to the gym is good not exactly because it changes your looks but also because it makes you healthier a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:47 PM
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You must be a very attractive man, because I'm sure that if I applied your advice on getting laid I'd still be hopeless no matter how much patience I had or how much I lowered my standards.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:39 AM
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Throughout all my dissapointing life I have learned things that have changed me and have improved my life and perspective, things that I'm sure I should have been taught before having to figure them out by myself, the fact I figured them out is sometimes luck and I think it's unfair to depend on luck in order to have a decent life. I'm sure one of the reasons why there are so many men lost is because of single moms, a woman can't teach a man how to be a man because she doesn't have the experienc…
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 03:24 AM
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We, men, should support each other much more, because noone else will. At least feminists try to support each other with "sorority", but I don't see men supporting each other that way, even though society absolutely fails us. Society failed us, but society is nothing more than an abstract concept, society is just another way to reffer to the other people, including the other men, so we could start supporting each other more because otherwise I don't see any solution to this problem.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 03:06 AM
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Nahhh, I have seen plenty of incels talking about wanting to murder and rape, and saying racist things, and if you're one of those incels, I want you to understand that you actually deserved the hate, those violent incels EARNED the hate they get with their actions. It is true that our society bullies virgin men, I can feel it as a 21-year-old virgin, but there's nothing wrong in strongly disliking people who voluntarily choose to be pieces of shit like many incels do.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 04:11 AM
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In Neanderthal times there was no Monogamy WE DIDN'T EVEN COME FROM NEANDERTHALS WTF. Humans and neanderthals existed at the same time and were two completely separate species of humans, there is evidence that some humans and some neanderthals decided to procreate and create human hybrids, and that's why most humans have a little bit of neanderthal genes, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that neanderthals were still a complete separate species and they DID NOT evolve into humans, they just we…
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 08:50 PM
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They do all of that because they want to be with Chad, but they want to be with Chad for selfish reasons, not for Chad. Look, if you think women are going to have sex with men they don't like just because Chad tells them to, then, go outside, seriously, you pretend to study women behind a screen, it's better to study women by leaving your cave and interacting with them irl. Chad also gets rejected sometimes, believe it or not.
/r/AllPillDebate27/07/23 06:06 PM
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Literally nobody says that attractiveness isn't an important factor in life. False. Look at the simpsons, they want to convince you that being a low quality obese man like homer, you can get a pretty wife like marge. Look at steven universe, they want to convince you that being a fat childish beta kid is enough to attract a beautiful intelligent tall girlfriend, look at the body positive movement, which only applies for fat women but never for fat or short men, look at the Hollywood movies, the …
/r/AllPillDebate27/07/23 06:00 PM
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Nobody can take bluepillers seriously when they deny that physical attractiveness is one of the most important factors to get a partner or sex, that single belief bluepillers have denies ALL my lifetime experience being rejected by the women I liked, because they preffered men who were more attractive, what a coincidence! all those men were more attractive than me. I am tired of assuming this has to be "a coincidence".
/r/AllPillDebate26/07/23 09:19 PM
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Women have sex with chads to please themselves NOT to please chads, they don't actually care about those chads, chads are just means to an end, when we have sex, we choose selfishly, that's how humans are, a woman isn't going to follow a chads command because she is also "using" that chad to get what she wants, sex consists on people using each other, it's that simple, you have to have something to offer otherwise you'll never satisfy women's selfish sexual interests. When you buy a smartphone, …
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 09:15 PM
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Bluepills always throw the "it's not cockiness, it's confidence that works" card in this cases. The thing is, even if it was true, then why do women care so much about confidence? there has to be an explanation to their obsession with confident men, because if I liked a girl, I wouldn't stop liking her just because she has insecurities. Maybe their obsession with confidence is related to hypergamy. The word "hypergamy" comes from the Greek word "hyper" which means "up", "hypergamy" means being a…
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 11:37 PM
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Why do women have to be so obsessed over confidence, why is confidence even so important for all of you? If I liked a woman, I wouldn't care whether or not she was insecure, as long as she's interesting 🤨
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 11:27 PM
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Yes, but only if I was single, I don't think I would do it with a girlfriend.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 11:12 PM
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It's honestly tiring to not have the possibility of showing any kind of insecurity of vulnerability as a man without being called a loser, even feminists who want to "challenge gender stereotypes" use these stereotypes to shame insecure men, calling men with toxic masculinity "insecure", using it as an insult, so, insecurity is shameful and it's an insult according to these feminists, they don't even realize they are contributing to men hiding their vulnerability and acting as a tough macho man …
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 10:48 AM
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Sir have you ever been to a trailer park? Ugly people hook up all the time. I have never seen such a thing, I bet that isn't even real and you're exagerating what you saw, maybe it can happen once in a thousand years but it's not very usual in my experience. If you're ugly the best thing you can do to improve your dating life is accept you have low worth, you have a low price as a man and that noone will love you unless you workout, become fit, change your looks and improve yourself in general, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:46 PM
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I am 34 male loser. I don't have nothing to offer HOWEVER I was able to attract women out of my league Lol tell me your secret, I'm tired of being a 20year old virgin. Maybe, at fist, you made them believe you had more to offer... I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:03 PM
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People break up over a number of reasons, "you're not hot enough" doesn't even make the top 100. Of course people don't break up with ugly people, because ugly people don't even have a chance to get in a relationship to begin with lol. That being said nothing you just commented has anything to do with unconditional love. Of course it does, my comment shows how you don't have to do anything bad in order to lose your chance to get romantic love, you just have to be a "low price" man or "low price"…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:00 PM
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Love is supposed to be something unconditional and selfless, so it's not that I'm not looking for it, it's that the love I'm looking for doesn't exist. It's very strange that you know that your partner would leave you if you became too fat or ugly, and the same you would do if he became too ugly, but somehow you are comfortable with that, I wouldn't want people like that in my life, people that would stop loving me if I became ugly and poor, that's just too cold and unkind for me, but somehow th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:56 PM
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I mean yeah ? If I suddenly got ugly now I don’t see why my partner would stay ? We have barely built a life together. I’m am only in my 20s. If my partner got suddenly ugly now I would also probably leave him. Exactly, that's my point, the only difference is that I don't see a reason to call that "love" The story changes once you’ve built a life together and have an actual connection worth giving your life towards. Maybe, but divorces still exist, so attrction is always necesary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:31 PM
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Ok, I'll have to repeat this again: the BIG difference here is that you don't have to be a shitty person in order to be dumped by your girlfriend, you don't need to do something bad like having illegal porn: But it's not necessary to be a shitty boyfriend to be ruled out from the sexual market, if you're a good boyfriend who treats his girlfriend right but your looks don't have enough price for her to buy, then she'll reject you, that's how women are and that's how men are. On the other hand, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:08 PM
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But if you got uglier your partner would leave you in the blink of an eye, but if you want to call that "love", okay, I don't, that's why I don't want to "love" a woman romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:57 PM
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If I become fit, masculine and economically independent and I start to attract women, I'm just going to have casual sex, but I wouldn't be able to love them, because the fact that I had to pay a price to get that love offends me. If you want to call that love, okay, but I see it as a lie, more like a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:32 PM
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A girlfriend is not a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:30 PM
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Yes, it's obvious, but when searching for dating advice, nobody tells you this obvious fact, they either start saying things like "be yourself, be confident, be nice" or they start going full redpill, but none of the two make enough emphasis on looks and on the fact that you have to pay a price, it's not like Disney movies where nobody pays a price and love is free. Sorry, but noone warned me about that, not even my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:24 PM
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Ok, look, you're saying that relationships are an exchange and that not having a job is a dealbreaker for you, but you still complain I say that you have to pay a price to be in a relationship? I don't understand this!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:42 PM
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And when did “society” tell you not being “alpha” was the way to go? Is this a joke? Are you trying to deny that society is going against the "alpha stereotype"? A lot of feminists fight against that "patriarchal" idea! Maybe you're the one who wasn't paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:29 PM
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You don’t think most people understood they couldn’t just sit at home playing video games all day living if thier parents and still get sex? I don't know why you assume that That’s some sort of revelation? That a man has to BE a man in order be looked at as a fuckable adult? Really? No, it's not a revelation that women like alpha males (aka "real men"), but society keeps insisting that's not true and thats a misogynistic belief, so it's true that society denies what this post is trying to commun…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:44 PM
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Understanding that romantic love has a price helps you being more adult and mature in order to adapt to become sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:36 PM
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Emmm, that doesn't have anything to do with my post but, ok...?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:06 PM
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Lol, I'm saying that you have to pay in order to be romantically loved, and many people here are upset I said that, so it's true that society wants to hide that truth from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:43 AM
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It doesn't matter how much an ugly poor insecure man wants to be reciprocal and treat their partner well, it's not going to work because that man has a low price. There is a selfish nature in romance society insists on denying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:36 AM
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You say you hate posts like this, but your comment literally proves my point. I will fall out of love with someone if they don’t have a job Damn Unconditional love exists, as in, caring for someone forever—but it doesn’t always remain in that same context of a relationship. I still love some people I would never touch with a ten foot pole romantically again. Yes, unconditional love exists, but unconditional ROMANTIC love doesn't, that's my point and what you're saying is an example of that. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:23 AM
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An Esmeralda / Quasimodo style relationship wouldn't disprove anything, I need more than just one random exception, I need many exceptions, I need to see it being systematically false even as a generalization. A random exception means nothing, you're not going to stop believing cats have four legs because you just found one cat that lost one leg because of an accident and now has just three legs. A scenario that would disprove my theory is, for example, stop seeing my crushes preffer other men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:58 AM
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I imagine you're not running towards some fat, old, ugly woman you saw at the supermarket today, that's because you too want a person to have qualities other than ''exists, is nice''. I didn't deny that, men are as shallow and selfish as women when it comes to sex and romance. Maybe there is a middle ground, but society insists in denying that this selfishness exists in romantic relationships. Also, you're talking as if looks were subjective, looks aren't completely subjective, because if they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:50 AM
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Maybe it's true that it's something in the middle, but it's also true that our society often ignores the transactional and selfish aspect of relationships, and because of that, many people end up being naïve and unable to date due to not being well adapted with cold harsh truths. I'm going to copy and paste because I have already talked about that: Well, maybe it's not entirely transactional, but if you can't add value to the other person's life, then you're going to be ruled out from sex and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:30 AM
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If that works for you,good for you, but I'm not sure that can work for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:02 AM
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Because women lie about their own prefferences in order to not seem shallow (and so do men)so the opposite gender can help better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:45 AM
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The fact he/she is jealous wouldn't disprove his/her point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:43 AM
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The ONLY viable cure is realistic sex robots infused with AI. They can be physical, or for those who can’t afford them, virtual via VR/AR, one day we will get to the point that either will provide a realistic enough sexual experience such that men will feel sexually satisfied as if they had had sex with a woman. That won't work for me. I DO NOT want a sex robot, I DO NOT want to have sex by paying, I want NOTHING OTHER THAN having the possibility of having free consensual sex with a woman that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:36 AM
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The only alternative is….what? Coercing women into giving these men sex and companionship? Because “instincts” The other alternative would be admitting that the blackpill theory is 100% true, admitting that incels were right all this time, admitting they are very intelligent for formulating the blackpill and validating all their pain, except when it comes to their criminal and violent opinions, and we should apologize for making fun of them. I don't think the blackpill is right, but if what you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:13 AM
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It’s impossible to “rectify” the dating market if by fixing it you mean somehow making women date and sleep with men they simply don’t want to. That era is done. Of course, women should choose the men they want, because their needs are important, not like the needs of unattractive men, they are not important and it's just because of genetic luck lol. You sound like a psychopath talking with so few empathy about us, it's unbelievable, I'm perplexed. Of course, it's easy to say those things when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:05 AM
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Wow, you guys are seriously unable to have empathy towards us, even if you admit the blackpill is true, instead of having BASIC empathy, you end up saying it's not a bad thing. Why is it a bad thing that a larger portion of men will miss out than in the future if it’s in line with how we actually work on a natural level "Why is it bad that some people don't have the opportunity of experiencing one of the most important aspects of life?". Excuse me, are you serious???!!! Yes sexual discrimination…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:01 AM
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How should I make a woman feel in order for that to happen, according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:59 AM
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Love exists, for example the love of a mother or love for your friends, but ROMANTIC love is a lie, evolution says that animals don't breed because they love each other but because they want to satisfy their selfish instincts of reproducing their genes with the best candidate through competition. Romantic love is an anti-natural social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:07 AM
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Are you actually nice though? From reading your post, I'm getting a sense that you're upset that women aren't just jumping at your dick by the mere fact of your existence. The fact that I use reddit to talk about my sexual frustration doesn't make me a bad person, I'm incapable of attracting women and I vent about it here, that doesn't mean I hate women, I hate bluepill lies about how looks are not important and you just need to go out and be yourself... And maybe it's true that friendship is ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:03 AM
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Well, maybe it's not entirely transactional, but if you can't add value to the other person's life, then you're going to be ruled out from sex and relationships, and it doesn't matter if you're a good person or if you are willing to treat your partner right, if your value/price as a manis so low that you can't satisfy the expectatives of the girl you like, you're not gonna have luck in dating. We all have selfish and shallow interests in dating and if the other person doesn't satisfy them, we du…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:55 AM
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Yes but physical attractiveness is not as important in friendship, and that's just one example, dating standards are ruthless. Compatibility is important but never enough by itself when it comes to relationships, if there isn't physical attraction, there isn't going to be any sex or relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:45 AM
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You can love anything simply because you want to. "Simply because you want to" but if that man is unattractive to you then you won't want to love him romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:31 AM
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Don't you think that, in order to have friends, you just need to be nice, be yourself and bot be unbearable? Sooner or later you'll find people who are compatible with you, but in order to have a relationship you need wayyy more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:28 AM
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Friendships end all the time, even strong and genuine ones, when one party does something against the other. You don't need to do anything against women in order for women to not date you, it's enough with being ugly and a low price product of a man. THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE. I, as a man, can get some friends, despite being ugly, insecure economically dependent and femminine, I'm not very good at it but I can sometimes even get female friends, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that I have low…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:10 AM
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“I have to pay” with going to the gym and improve if social skills?! Are we sure about that? Well, if you want a fullfilling sexual life, yes. There are a whole bunch of dudes here refusing to “pay” on PPD. And let’s be real: those out of shape and lonely dudes seem pretty damn miserable. And they won't have luck in dating, which proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:54 PM
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, romantic love has a selfish and shallow element in it, and if our partner doesn't satisfy those selfish interests, we dump them. As simple as that. Some people are worth more than others in the sexual market, others have low price and end up being old virgins involuntarily because of their low price.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:44 PM
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Well, that's true, that's a better description of the situation. But let's never forget this: If your partner stops loving you, stops adding some kind of value to your life, then the relationship would probably end Even if you believe in love, you have to accept that there is a selfish element to it, we want relationships to satisfy our own interests and if our partner doesn't satisfy them, we dump them. There are people who are willing to give love and treat their partner right, but they are ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:37 PM
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If that girl wasn't as attractive you wouldn't love her, you can't give romantic love without something in return, nobody can, because romantic love is a lie, in the animal kingdom animals don't breed because they love each other, they breed for the selfish interest of reproducing their genes with the best candidate through competition, the same happens with humans, we are primates, romantic love is an anti-natural social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:19 PM
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But you had to pay a price to become that person, so it's still true that you have to pay a price to get sex in any way, shape or form. It makes more sense to me to describe these things in these "nihilistic" vocabulary, the middle point seems ambiguous, unclear and makes me confused, I preffer to think about things in black and white. The bluepill wants to convince you that, in order to have sex, it's not enough with being yourself and being nice, you have to change yourself and adapt to other …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:10 PM
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Well, that's true, but this is not about Not being selfless or being a shitty boyfriend: It's not necessary to be a shitty boyfriend to be ruled out from the sexual market, if you're a good boyfriend who treats his girlfriend right but your looks don't have enough price for her to buy, then she'll reject you, that's how women are and that's how men are. On the other hand, if you're a shitty boyfriend who treats his girlfriend badly but your looks have good price, you have status, other men respe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:03 PM
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Good for you, you did what I could only dream of, and I don't know what's your secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:58 PM
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Did you never hear the phrase "Tall, dark, and handsome," to describe the ideal man? Did you miss all the Disney stories where the girl gets a handsome prince - someone with good looks and status? Did you miss that rom-come love interests are typically quite good looking? Did you miss that being attractive is a requirement to sell clothes? Did you never hear girls irl or in TVs and movies gushing about cute boys? Was girls being attractive not an important part of why you were interested in them…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:57 PM
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I was told I could get a girlfriend by being myself and being nice, it's not my fault THE SYSTEM taught me that. I see the lies of society didn't affect you as much, but they affected me, and that's why I need to be hostile towards these lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:47 PM
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Friendships are not as deep as relationships, but they are easier to obtain precisely because they are more UNCONDITIONAL than relationships, so you can get friends even if you're ugly, weak, kinda introvert or you're just not a top tier alpha male. Relationships are different, if you don't met certain criteria, you basically have zero value as a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:44 PM
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I mean, maybe it's true, but that depends on the kind of friendships you have, not all friendships have to be as machiavellian as that, at least in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:03 PM
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Look, if women care about physical attraction and you have to offer something to be romantically loved, that means that there are going to be men who have more to offer than other men, men who are more physically attractive, rich, high status, charismatic, etc., that means that it's a lie that we are worth the same, there are people who are above other people and therefore we can analyze this situation as a market where people have a price or a value depending on how demanded what they have to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:01 PM
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Good for you, my experiences were completely different, I'm a 20yo virgin with zero sexual experience, it's not too hard for me to make female friends but they would never date me or have sex with me, d I have had bad experiences seeing my crushes preffer men who were COINCIDENTIALLY more attractive and I'm tired of believing it must be a coincidence, I came to the conclusion that they don't preffer me because I'm not enough as a man, I'm low price, and I'm tired of bluepill lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:51 PM
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Casual sex is an earned thing, its reflective of your value. You are not paying anything when it comes to casual sex. Saying that casual sex is "earned" and "reflective of your value" but at the same time "You are not paying anything when it comes to casual sex" sounds like a heavy contradiction to me. It seems you are interpreting what "unconditional" means in a completely different way, and I don't trust that, just compare relationships with friendships, your friends aren't going to reject you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:45 PM
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That's just a recepie for disaster and abuse. Imagine "I love you even if you make my life worse over all". Nope. Nightmare. True, but it's not necessary to be a shitty boyfriend to be ruled out from the sexual market, if you're a good boyfriend who treats his girlfriend right but your looks don't have enough price for her to buy, then she'll reject you, that's how women are and that's also how men are. On the other hand, if you're a shitty boyfriend who treats his girlfriend badly but your look…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:37 PM
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My hypothesis is that your father fell in love with your mother when she was attractive (to him) so there was a condition at the moment of getting to know each other, and now those conditions don't matter because they lived a great amount of experiences together, they know each other very well and they reached a point of complimenting each other and being kind of unseparable. Sorry, but I have had horrible experiences with crushes that preffered men who were wayy more attractive than me, I'm tir…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:30 PM
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True, but compare friendships with romantic relationships, friends can kind of love you unconditionally, but a romantic partner can't, because you have to improve yourself to get a relationship and that means that you have to sell yourself well. Friendships are also transactional but not as much, they are not going to reject you for being ugly, poor, femminine or neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:23 PM
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They probably were attractive from the start, grew up in a good stable family that didn't ignore they existed, were extrovert, had friends in school so they could improve their social skills as they grew up and/or they just had a lot of luck, but I'm not sure to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:15 PM
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Almost noone chooses their partner that way lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:10 PM
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But it's not necessary to be a shitty boyfriend to be ruled out from the sexual market, if you're a good boyfriend who treats his girlfriend right but your looks don't have enough price for her to buy, then she'll reject you, that's how women are and that's how men are. On the other hand, if you're a shitty boyfriend who treats his girlfriend badly but your looks have good price, you have status, other men respect you, you earn much money, you are neurotypical and you have strong masculine behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:07 PM
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In reality though there is no reason to want a love that is one sided. That’s ridiculous. Why would you want a partner who doesn’t help you, and you only ever help them? And you also want someone that is as attractive as you, or more, so that's when you can see the materialistic transaction in romance. If you are willing to give love, but you're fat, poor and boring, you're not going to get romantic love, whereas if you are attractive, fit, neurotypical, strong and rich, it's going to be easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:00 PM
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I disagree. If you are willing to give love, but you're fat, poor and boring, you're not going to get romantic love, whereas if you are attractive, fit, neurotypical, strong and rich, it's going to be easier for you to get romantic love even if you're not as willing to give romantic love as the fat friendzoned guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:57 PM
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What a nice distinction, it helps me understand the problem even better. I believe that women still need to do things to be loved romantically, but maybe we men don't realize it since those are femminine problems we're just not familiar with, they are also affected by not taking care of their weight, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:54 PM
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Most relationships are not transactional though. They are reciprocal, which is different. I would like if you explained the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:50 PM
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Well, your grandparents still chose each other based on what they could get from each other (probably). Everything in life has a price, but compare friendships with romantic relationships, friends can kind of love you unconditionally, but a romantic partner can't, because you have to improve yourself to get a relationship and that means that you have to sell yourself well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:48 PM
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True, and I'm tired of songs and movies talking about unconditional love as if it was real. Society doesn't want to stop lying. Although friends can love you almost unconditionally (although there's a limit), but a romantic partner can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:41 PM
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Romantic love doesn't exist, or if it exists, it is an exchange of services.
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 10:14 PM
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If a girl really likes you, then she will reciprocate & offer to buy you things, & treat you. Nahhh, I disagree, you have to pay a price as a man, and yes, it kinda feels like prostitution, that's a very good analogy, but that's the only kind of romantic love that exists I think. Girls who are worth dating exist, but maybe you have to search in certain places and with more effort, so I kinda understand if you don't see it's worth to try, but again, in order to be with a great woman, you have to …
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 01:47 AM
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Harder doesn't mean impossible. Yes, it's hard to attract women if you're asian of if you're short, but the fact that asian short men EVEN exist means that their ancestors managed to get laid and have offspring, even if they were asian short men too, because again, harder doesn't mean impossible. It's harder to play basketball if you're short, but that doesn't mean it's impossible, and the same happens with dating. You have to overcome the obstacles. I have seen men shorter than me get girlfrien…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 01:32 AM
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I'm not pretty because I haven't paid the price, I'm going to go to the gym and looksmaxx, and become more of a masculine protector, and all of that. I don't personally buy the blackpill belief that I'm predetermined by my genes to be in the same situation. I need to accept that nobody is going to love me if I don't go to the gym and pay the price.
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 01:23 AM
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So the idea of sexual market value can come across as too cold and calculating as well as objectifying to many women. It is actually pretty cold and objectifying, but it seems to be true. In order to have a great girlfriend, you have to be a great man, that sounds fair, but that also means that there is a price to pay, that means that romantic love isn't unconditional, because there is a price, a condition, so maybe romantic love isn't actually true love, maybe it's just an exchange, maybe roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:00 PM
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Because society insist on telling us that it's misogynistic to say that women are shallow, but it's not true, IF looks have ANY effect on attraction, that means that there is shallowness in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:55 PM
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Confidence has tobe a consequence of competence, it's pointless to say that his results changed just because of confidence, when his confidence was clearly a consequence of getting in shape and getting a job. Confidence before competence is not even real confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:52 PM
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I dissagree, there are a lot of entitled men and women out there, it's good that they are being called out, but of course it's also true that not all male virgins who identify as involuntary celibates are entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:17 PM
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Best question ever.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 08:12 PM
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I never said all women, now you're just changing what I said No sir, you're the one changing what you yourself previously said, you said: Women will tell men to kill themselves for being under 6ft You didn't say "some women" or "many women", you implied women IN GENERAL, this is the word structure of a generalization. Of course you didn't say "all women", but you certainly wrote it in such a way that counts as a generalization about women in general All you're doing is walking back your statemen…
/r/AllPillDebate11/06/23 05:16 PM
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Your argument would make sense if I had denied that women like that existed, I didn't, I said that it's ridiculous to say that ALL women IN GENERAL are like that (which is what you said). Here's the thing, you made a very serious accusation on all women in general, without giving any proof whatsoever, in this case the weight of the proof lies on you, because you are the one making a very wild accusation in the first place. Normal people interact with women in a daily basis, and they know that it…
/r/AllPillDebate11/06/23 04:19 PM
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All men in relationships I see in my university are waaaay more attractive than me, they have muscles, beard, look masculine, and I feel inferior to all of them. I have only seen ONE exception among all the examples of this rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 09:34 AM
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Women will tell men to kill themselves for being under 6ft I have never seen such a thing, maybe it can happen sometimes because there are some women who are horrible people,but saying that this is generally what women do is ridiculous to me tbh.
/r/AllPillDebate11/06/23 09:27 AM
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Still doesn't make sense to me, seems dishonest, and if something doesn't make sense to me I don't apply it even if it works, I hate things that don't follow a logical pattern, maybe that's why I'm a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:00 PM
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Who knows, the discussion about confidence is incredibly confusing anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:53 PM
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Because people with low self esteem don't need to be discriminated this much because they don't have confidence, and because to be honest confidence itself is kind of cringe and dishonest, you see people often saying that you should fake it till you make it, which is dishonest and kind of inmoral in my opinion, I find it extremely weird how women just like that so much, they seem to put confidence over competence. I hate confidence, I would actually preffer if they were just attracted to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:50 PM
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But the thing is that you're admitting that, when you choose the quite nerd, you're not sexually attracted to him, maybe mentally attracted because he treats you nice, but not sexually attracted. So that doesn't confirm the redpill as a whole, but it does confirm that "looks are not that important" is radioactive bullshit. I don't know about you, but not feeling sexually desired by my partner is something I would hate. It would be extremely nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:20 PM
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Women preffering men who are attractive is not redpill, is just common sense. Physical attractiveness is important, our ancestors knew this and they didn't need any of these stupid pills to know that. Physical attractiveness is less important than personality and lifestyle, sure, but it's still extremely important. Would you want to be with a girl you considered ugly, OP? I bet the answer is no. That's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:17 PM
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Many of them are probably liked by men, but not THAT kind of men, not the alpha/chad kind. The other men do not count as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:19 PM
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This doesn't seem like preselection, like, seriously, a woman friendzoned you and then other women get turned on because of that? what kind of preselection is that? This seems more like you being in a more social mood when you talk to your female friend, and other people picking up on that and trusting you more just because of that social mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:04 PM
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Having zero people attracted to you is absolutely devastating, maybe it's not necessary to have too many people attracted to you, maybe with a few people attracted to you is ok, but knowing you are so unattractive that zero people are interested in you can destroy your self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:34 AM
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The suffering of being an undesirable and unvalidated sexless old virgin is real, of course is not as bad as cancer though, I didn't say anything if that, you are the one who is comparing 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 10:34 AM
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Let's make stupid assumptions about people we don't know, in order to invalidate their suffering
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 10:22 AM
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Your friend was one of those women who want to discriminate, but not be discriminated. If you discriminate in the sexual market, you have to accept you can be discriminated too as an exchange. The was shallow, and she didn't see any problem in her own shallowness, she only saw a problem when the opposite gender was as shallow as she was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:46 AM
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If what they said matched what they did, I would take what they say seriously. Sadly, I can't trust what they say, because what I see they actually choose contradicts it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:28 AM
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Rape and harrashment are phenomena where the MAJORITY of women are affected by a MINORITY of men. Believe it or not, men who rape are a statistical minority, most men don't have anything to do with harrashment, let alone rape, and it's pretty unfair to acuse all those innocent men who didn't do anything to deserve all that judgement and condemnation just because of that minority.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 05:59 AM
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What's funny is that if this horrible and deppressing sexual scarcity happened to her, she would be complaining all day long about how men are shallow and how the patriarchy rules dating. She just wants an excuse to hate men. I personally wouldn't base my opinion about women on one specific women who just happens to be a toxic person full of hatred, but what is true is that, when talking about sex, women generally talk from their position of priviledge, for example this woman talked about how un…
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 09:20 PM
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Some of us really cross a limit in unattractiveness and passiveness that makes us just unacceptable options.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 04:08 AM
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They don't like misogyny, they just consider it less of a problem than uglyness, boring personality and lack of capacity to be alpha, according to what I've observe at least. And not only women, men too would rather bang a hot chick who hates them than an ugly chick who treats them well. Humans suck in general.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 04:05 AM
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Ignore the men who don't see you as a human being. I personally want intimacy and fun, and sex would be a big part of that intimacy and fun but not all of it.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 03:51 AM
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Kind of make sense, but many women still explicitly say they wouldn't want to teach anybody. Maybe not telling that girl you're a virgin and having a "I don't need to be taught because I'll try my best by myself" attitude would work in this case, Idk 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:15 AM
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Incels and blackpillers use that word a lot to reffer to losing your virginity, which I see as a wrong way to see things. I hate the concept of confidence, I want to puke every time I see that annoying stupid word written. I even hate the fact women preffer "confident" men, as though there was any purpose in that.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 03:51 PM
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Because they know it's a hard truth and it makes them look bad. We are fucked and nobody cares. It's over for me.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:18 AM
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Women get pregnant, so they evolved instincts to adapt to pregnancy, which men didn't. They evolved with instincts that prevent them to sleep with a man they don't want. They are physically incapable of doing such a thing, to the point of presenting serious symptoms in their mind and body if they try to. To a woman, a man they don't want touching them IS a very big deal.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:05 AM
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No, women also choose men with a high price in the market, that's why I'm a virgin. Women who deny this market exist but also adapt to this market and only choose men with a high value in this market are the height of hypocrisy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:09 PM
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You say that men who hate women who get dick easily, hate them because they can't get sex because of their low physical attractiveness. Well, that only prooves that sex is a market, and the only thing that determines our success are things like our looks, money, status, big dick and other superficial and materialistic things, according to this same comment of yours, according to you the redpill is right about this. You're admitting that the redpill is true about the "market" idea, which says tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:00 PM
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Your sense of average seems absolutely subjective. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:05 PM
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If you go to the gym you're above average
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:03 PM
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Well, that's true, sex is just a market, we are just products with a price, and unattractive people are "low price" people. That's the materialistic reality of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:55 PM
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Completely true, you're spitting facts here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:51 PM
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Saying that virgins are not worth the time and effort sounds very judgemental for me, and it hurts my virgin feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:48 PM
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It's still society's fault, society teaches us that looks don't matter and therefore we are not supposed to improve them, just to accept them because we are all beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:46 PM
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Maybe you think you're average but you're not. Maybe you have a wrong sense of self-perception
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:43 PM
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MANY women reject guys just because they are inexperience, which is not the same than judging, yes, but it DOES mean that women are the ones making it hard for us virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:42 PM
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They don't care about this things, they don't care if some people die without achieving a sexual life, they just go for what they like and don't care about anything else, because they can, they are desirable. That's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:39 PM
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Ahhhggg, I hate when sexually satisfied people criticize us about being sexually stressed, you're talking from your position of priviledge, you will never face how is it like to be a virgin knowing that makes you undesirable, and you still dare to judge us?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:35 PM
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Tell me how
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 10:10 PM
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I love how many incels makes stupid theories that obviously don't make any fucking sense and then defend them with such a confidence. Like, what on earth makes them think they know that much about women? because if that was the case they would already have been able to convince at least one woman to sleep with them... I'm a virgin but at least I admit my ignorance about women and sex, and I don't act as though I knew how seduction worked.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 09:17 PM
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No insecurities Becoming attractive is easier than this. Like, I can't show any vulnerability or emotion to the person that suposedly loves me. But yeah, it seems that's what works for men.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 05:50 AM
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Nah, I gotta admit I wish I had sex for once in my life (I'm a virgin), but I also like to have friends. What's the difference between having male friends and female friends? If you're interesting to me, I'll probably want to be your friend, regardless of your gender. I have male friends, and I don't want to fuck them, the same goes for women, there's no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:41 AM
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Men can't get pregnant, that's why they didn't evolve with an instint that protects them from getting pregnant by the wrong person. But women are different and you should empathise, women DO get pregnant, that's why evolution had to put an instinct to prevent them from sleeping with the wrong person, because sleeping with the wrong person represents a major risk for women. And of course, sex with men is not the same as sex with women, but to homosexual men, the desire of having sex with a man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:32 PM
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Imagine you want to study in university, and your friends don't help you to register to the university and reading and signing all the documents. It would not be valid to stop being friends with them because of that, because yes, education is a need, but it's YOUR responsibility, not your friends' responsibility. If you want a job, it's not your mother's responsibility to help you search for the job, it's yours, and if you want to kick out your mother from your life because of that, you're a hor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:24 PM
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I don't assume things out of people inmediately. There are virgins who have a very good reason to be virgins, like having "nice guys" vibes, being creepy and so on, but if someone is a virgin and you inmediately correlate his virginity to having a horrible personality, that's prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:16 PM
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I have found many Maslow's pyramids that don't include it in Google images, I've even just searched for it right now. I gotta say the one in Wikipedia does include sex at the bottom of the pyramid, but in that same article you can see a section full of criticisms about that pyramid made by diverse psychologists intelectuals, and they generally say the pyramid is right about the fact that there are needs that have to be covered first in order to cover "higher needs", but they disagree with what s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:55 PM
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Well, sex and food are on the same level of the Maslow's hierarchy of needs They are not, you can google it and you'll realize they're not in the same level on the Maslow's hierarchy. If you don't eat food you LITERALLY DIE, if the same thing happened with sex, monks wouldn't exist (seriously, come on...). Also, if you want just sex, pay for it, don't act as though there wasn't a solution, paying is a solution. BUT of course, paying for it will not give you the validation and the intimacy, she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:01 PM
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So you're implying that, for men, casual sex is harder than having long term relationships , and for women it's the opposite? One of the bad things about being a man is that, for women, sex represents a risk (risk of being pregnant, risk of slut-shaming, risk of sexual abuse...), so even to just have casual sex with someone, a man has to demonstrate he's worth that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:50 AM
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I seriously doubt most women don't want casual sex, I think most of them preffer relationships over casual sex, but still practice casual sex sometimes through partying and tindering. For example, some women, when they get their heart broken, have tons of casual sex as a form of "therapy". Also, according to you, what are some common reasons guys end up having it impossible to have something sexual or romantic with the opposite sex? ("nice guy" vibes, low self esteem, boring, no female friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:05 AM
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Nobody OWES us neither sex nor relationships, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that we can get frustrated if we are so undesirable that nobody wants to have sex with us. Seriously, why do some people compare having CONSENSUAL casual sex with using people, there's nothing wrong in wanting to have sex with someone, to me that just sounds like conservative bullshit that doesn't make sense. I would preffer to have a girlfriend than having casual empty sex, but that doesn't mean I think men who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:44 AM
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You're assuming things about people you don't know. It's cruel to say someone MUST suck as a human being only based on his dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:26 AM
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Consensually getting laid with women ≠ using women 🙄 It would be ridiculous to say that women who likes casual sex are USING men and therefore they should be SHAMED for that lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:51 PM
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They probably don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:30 AM
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Maybe society makes a great job at making many men confused and guilty of their masculinity and some men fall for it? When movies told me looks didn't matter at all, I believed them, and I believed them for years, so that's why many men end up exagerating about how looks are everything, it's a reactionary strategy. "Looks don't matter", "masculinity is toxic", "women generally preffer femminine men who act like girls", "women don't like sex, only men do because they are pigs", "women preffer men…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:26 AM
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The blue pill is not saying the redpill is truth, the pill that shall not be mentioned (bl---plick) also denies the redpill, so they would be bluepill by your definition. The bluepill is, basically, the set of all the things society tell us since we are kids through movies, romance novels, songs, moralist facebook posts. "Looks don't matter", "women want sensitive men", "masculinity is inherently toxic, and women don't like men like that", "women want femminine men who act like girls", "women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:11 AM
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Nahh, every single man I know in my college that has a girlfriend is clearly more attractive than me, not even a single exception, so I can't see how looks don't matter in this game, personality matters but looks are still one of the most important factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:03 AM
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I literally want someone to provide alternatives that produce real results! Me too lol, TRP is literally the only solution you find on the internet, no one else cares enough about lonely men to create that kind of content for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:59 AM
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Not sure why dudes needed a “pill” for what everyone else calls “common sense” but whatevs. Maybe society makes a great job at making many men confused and guilty of their masculinity and some men fall for it? When movies told me looks didn't matter at all, I believed them, and I believed them for years, so that's why many men end up exagerating about how looks are everything, it's a reactionary strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:54 AM
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If someone gets offended or uncomfortable with something I say, that sometimes has more to do with that other person than with me, like, that's their fault, not mine, as long as I am kind, honest and don't intentionally offend people, other people are also responsible of how they receive what I say and how they interpretate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:51 AM
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So it's a conspiracy created by evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:47 AM
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It really depend on what kind of vegan you are, the reason people hate radical vega is exactly the same reason people hate religious fanatics: they try to pressure you to adopt their morality, they try to manipulate you with guilt, they get angry if you don't think like them, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:47 PM
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Believe it or not, some men aren't desired even by 0/10 girls. There are men who are rejected by the exact 100% of female population, because women seem to all choose the same kind of man, and that kind of man is not willing to date all those women, but he IS willing to fuck them, so women are sexually satisfied, even though they are 0/10, and they don't want to have anything to do with the below average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:09 PM
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Nahh, I can't have a hoe phase, nobody likes me, that's why I like when hoes are shamed >:) Jealousy is based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:35 PM
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I call him a top %10 man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:31 PM
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He's not shaming men, he just says those standards HAVE CONSEQUENCES over the dating market. Too much DEMAND makes economy go crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:50 PM
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I didn't say majority of women, I just say your generalization is not completely true. And even if they were plentiful, they would be sluts and sleep over everyday, but not with everyone, just with a select group of men who have specific characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:47 PM
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Yes, of course nobody can walk alone at night, but I gotta admit I haven't ever in my life be harrassed on a bus, but if I was a woman, I would probably have been harassed in this week already. So yes, men and women have different priviledges, women don't have it easier in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:00 PM
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Because we are jealous of that, especially the unsuccessful ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:52 PM
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That is because men don't get pregnant, so they haven't evolved to be afraid of becoming pregnant for the wrong person. For men, sex represents no risk, but for women, it's like falling with parachute, like one of those very pleasurable and desirable activities but at the same time incredibly risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:50 PM
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Speak for you! There are lots of women who like casual sex and cringe with the concept of longterm relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:47 PM
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Because women can produce new human beings, and the reality is that, even though that sounds sexist and objectifying, that also gives too much power to women, they select the genes that are going to be passed on, which makes them more demanded in the market. It's true that women face problems with dating too, there are women who have problems finding a partner too, but more often than not those are first world problems compared to men's problems and men's scarcity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:09 AM
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From a Marxist point of view, women own the means of production, that's why they have so much power in the sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:30 PM
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There is something that is true, some people do bussiness with the fear and resentment of others, many redpillers do exactly that, they sell books, private classes, Andrew Tate even offered his hustlers academia bullshit, which was pretty expensive and didn't actually contain anything useful for life. That's why people should be more critical with the redpill, and with the bluepill too of course (because it's true that there are things our society teaches us about sex and relationships that are …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:44 AM
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Because I don't have confidence and I don't even try to have. Confidence just doesn't make sense to me, because it requires having certain faith, the faith about "you're enough" and all that stuff. I'm not a big fan of just having faith of things, we believe the earth is round because it can be demonstrated with a scientific method, not because we just have faith in eath's roundness. Even if confidence works to get women, I don't want it, if something doesn't make logical sense to me I never app…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:18 AM
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A purity culture patriarchy would be bad, because no man or woman should be forced to live their sex lifes a predetermined way, there should be freedom, even if we don't completely like the consequence of that freedom. However, that doesn't mean that average men can't be frustrated about the situation. I understand some men who are bitter against hookup culture, I am too. I'm a 20yo virgin, and having sex for me is like a dream, like one of those dreams you know you'll never achieve, like being …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:10 AM
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That's why we have to develop better contraceptives, they give safe sex without abortion, but they are not very effective yet, that's why we have to invest in science.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:58 AM
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That's not true, feminism doesn't judge promiscuity in men, it just doesn't care about the fact that many men can't get that promiscuity and have to remain involuntary sexless lol. Some men go their own way, others are forced to go their way alone all their lives, because they were expulsed from the sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:54 AM
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What OP is saying is that the average man can't get laid in hookup culture, even if he tried 100 times with 0 to 10 out of 10 girls, because all girls are chasing the same group of top men, and that not only makes him miss out on all the experience, but it also makes him seem more pathetic, like he couldn't get a girl even in hookup culture, that makes him feel as a loser. Purity culture doesn't give the average Billy a fun sex life, but it at least improve the chances of getting a wife who does…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:50 AM
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What OP is saying is that the average man can't get laid in hookup culture, even if he tried 100 times with 0 to 10 out of 10 girls, because all girls are chasing the same group of top men, and that not only makes him miss out on all the experience, but it also makes him seem more pathetic, like he couldn't get a girl even in hookup culture, that makes him feel as a loser. Purity culture doesn't give the average Billy a fun sex life, but it at least improve the chances of getting a wife who does…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:37 AM
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I mean, it's not like the majority of women are offering very much either... (Although it's true that the fact women don't have to marry in order to survive has changed the situation and forced men to adapt).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:24 PM
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You say "timid" and "boring" as though they both mean the same lol, maybe it's the same for you, idk. I think being boring is subjective, if she's boring to me, of course I wouldn't date her, why would I have a girlfriend I don't have fun with? The maximum I could have with a boring person is casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:22 AM
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Many young men are so lost... They definetly need a father figure better than those redpill and misogynists who are just trying to sell them shit. I would be skeptical about seeing Destiny like a father figure, I don't dislike him, but it's also true that much of his success is thanks to his fame and status, but he doesn't take that into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:23 AM
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