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You didn't justify the claim it was reasonable, please do. Why is it reasonable?
/r/MensRights09/05/24 02:44 AM
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Why would it be reasonable? Legal is another issue.
/r/MensRights08/05/24 04:46 PM
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Take gender and size out of the equation. Does a human have a right to defend themselves? If the answer is yes, even a qualified yes that limits self defense to only situations where the person being attacked feels like they could be harmed, you have your justification. Why should a man, whether same size, bit smaller or a lot larger, have to accept an attack (abuse) just because the person attacking him does less damage? Whatever answer you give, does it apply if the woman is larger?
/r/MensRights10/04/24 02:41 PM
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I had assumed your post was initially about the random NYC punching thing. But do want to share what two years working as a bouncer (I was considered a smaller bouncer, only 5’11” but weighing in at 240lb) taught me. In a polite conversation you are correct that most men simply punching a woman would be unfair. In most situations without drugs or alcohol, and with less entitlement and laws supporting women, sure. But if you add alcohol or drugs and entitlements the picture changes. I suspect you…
/r/MensRights10/04/24 02:38 PM
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In principle, sure. In practice it doesn't work because (a) there is real world impact from groups like this before any effort to determine what is true vs false and (b) men on a lot of platforms cannot have a group like this, and (c) these groups have been demonstrated maligning men and doing nothing to sort fact from fiction. Which is where the principle gives way to the practical. These groups should be banned unless they undertake to demonstrate truth of the claims.
/r/MensRights08/04/24 09:42 PM
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I would add that men and women tend to be physically violent at about the same average rates but men have a broader range (both more and less violent) and are more effective in their violence. Take a 100 of the most violent people in a prison system and the majority will be men and will have more extreme violence on their records. Women on the other hand take the crown on emotional violence which simply isn’t as noticed or cared about in our society. If people really paid attention they might wa…
/r/MensRights03/04/24 09:05 PM
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Many therapists say that the scares part with their male patients is that when they go through the analysis their patient has done to arrive at self deletion being a way out, the reasoning is good. The men don’t have a way out, and things will either remain the same or get worse. For someone living in intolerable situations then self deleting makes sense. Which indicates our society is failing to help men, not that men are weak.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 08:55 PM
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The damage feminism and its associated ideologies and the laws that have come from it isn’t really debatable. Men suffer more under the gynocentric laws we currently have in the west. Everything from being charged for crimes at a much higher rate and punished for them more to having almost no social support, no men only spaces, more boys being raised in single mother homes by women who also didn’t have fathers in the home, and biased divorce and child courts. It all stacks up, which leads to inc…
/r/MensRights03/04/24 08:52 PM
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Until we can get actual stats showing a real data set, we'll never know how big an issue it is. But just one case should suffice to make us require more than a claim.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/03/24 04:24 AM
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Egalitarianism is equal rights for men and women. Feminism has always been a misandrist philosophy. Many feminists today aren’t even aware of important history of feminism or how it’s influenced modern society in terrible ways. I’m not talking about equal pay for equal education and experience, that’s good and been the law since 1965. I'm talking about things like divorce courts, men removed from schools which has left boys with no male role models given how many of them are being raised in sing…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 04:22 AM
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The "men do X" as a meme followed by the "not all men" reply meme followed by the thought stopping rebuttal of "misogyny" or "incel" or "toxic masculinity".
/r/MensRights15/03/24 04:03 PM
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>Who do men protect wimen amd children from? Men. And other things, fire, flood, starvation, cold, etc. Additionally, women are the worst abusers and murderers of children. Does that make all women suspect? Does that at all reduce the value of MOST women being protectors of children? It doesn't because the percentage of women doing those things is tiny compared to the total population. So your feminist complaint that men protect against other men (as if that's the only thing) is such a generaliz…
/r/MensRights15/03/24 02:17 PM
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take responsibility This is where they always lose me. If the woman can say, "my body, my choice" that means its also "her responsibility", not the man's. If she feels she's not ready to be a mother, she can abort or carry to term and let it be adopted, he has no choice. If she decides to carry to term, he has no choice. So why does everyone always assume he has shared responsibility? I liken it to riding in a car. That you ride in a car doesn't mean you consent to be paralyzed. It's a possibili…
/r/EverydayMisandry11/03/24 03:13 PM
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You sound like a feminist. Know who is also the most likely people to protect and ensure assaults don't happen? Men. By far. Men are most of the police, law enforcement, security guards, protectors in the home, military, fire, EMS, Coast Guard, and so on. More men give up their lives protecting than women. By far. There's nothing wrong with promoting a day to celebrate men since western society seems to have forgotten just how much it relies on the sacrifices of men. The points you made are also…
/r/MensRights11/03/24 02:57 PM
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This is a feminist talking point that men are the biggest threat... to men or anything else. They always forget the other half of the coin, that men are also the biggest protection... to men, women, children. Used for good that aggressiveness and strength protects, used for bad, it's the threat. Guess which one is far more common? Feminism would have you believe it's the threat by a long way. In reality it's the other, the threat part is a tiny fraction comparatively.
/r/MensRights11/03/24 02:54 PM
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Don't forget r/deadbedrooms where it's always the man's fault because all men are cheaters, porn addicted, or lazy slobs who force their wives to do all the cleaning, childcare, and emotional stress of the family.
/r/Divorce_Men08/03/24 07:41 PM
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specific to women taken away by men They weren't taken away by men so much as taken away by SCOTUS which included at least one woman. It's also a very, very tiny portion of people in the U.S., 9 out of 350 million to be exact. So why are you blaming 'men' as a group? Most people wanted to retain abortion rights, of that number, approximately half were men. So many of the people shafted by the decision of 9 justices are also men. I agree that having healthcare options specific to women taken away…
/r/MensRights06/03/24 05:20 PM
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Except for giving the bulk of the credit for settling the west to pioneer women. I'm from Utah, my family migrated west from the earliest frontiersmen to cattle drives, the Mormon pioneers and more. Excluding the great grandfather who was an Apache. Women had more rights, but let’s be honest that men came decades before and the women came along only after the trails had been developed and some forts built. They were certainly part of the big population push but ten thousand men preceded them. An…
/r/MensRights28/02/24 12:56 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 04:29 AM
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Don’t think of yourself as damaged, but rather forged. Iron becomes steel by having impurities p, heat and beating (which removes some impurities and creates crystalline structure giving strength snd flexibility when done well). Doesn't that sound like you right now, you've been heated and beaten and because of it you,re now both stronger and more flexible. And more wary.
/r/Divorce_Men27/02/24 04:05 AM
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Where are those happening more often? Not in the west which is where most people are saying there is no patriarchy. In certain countries tries it certainly exists. But not in western countries. They are far more gynocentric than patriarchal.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 03:50 AM
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Let's be a little more realistic about this. Approximately 50% of marriages fail. That doesn't mean the other 50% are successful (meaning the couple stays in love, are good partners for each other, and such). Latest study I’ve seen says about 30-40% for longer term marriages are dead bedrooms and many of those the husband would leave if he could without being financially ruined. Call it 25%. Given how many men won't tell anyone they are unhappy, you could bet on double that number. Which to me s…
/r/Divorce_Men27/02/24 03:36 AM
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Ladies, measure your ass. If it takes up more room than the guy, you're woman spreading.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/02/24 07:41 AM
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In the traditional marital vows the phrase “to have and to hold” means to share sex and intimacy so perhaps the take of “you don't owe anyone sex” will result in fewer people being married. I wonder if there are numbers that would show such a thing…
/r/EverydayMisandry24/02/24 05:51 AM
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If it’s going long term they deserve to know because statistics show higher body counts lead to marriage breakup far more often than not. Then there is the STI situation too. If you aren’t honest on past partners how can a partner trust you're being honest about any STI that might be an issue?
/r/MensRights20/02/24 06:37 AM
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Many feminists do say that but once you start looking at the claim you realize it’s a case of “heads I win, tails you lose.” Meaning it’s always men's fault. Fewer women leaders in the past? Blame the patriarchy, despite there being plenty of wealthy and powerful women, even queens, who disprove that claim. For almost all the Kings there was a Queen and she raised the next generation which meant if she preserved power for her sons and helped arrange marriages for her daughters which was also a w…
/r/MensRights19/02/24 10:45 PM
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This happens all the time in certain states. It’s called the presumption of paternity. If a woman gives birth in those states the husband is simply presumed to be the father unless the wife and her love both sign a document saying the child is her affair partners. Men have sued, demanded paternity. Which is when judge roulette happens. Some accept the test and let husband off if it’s not his, some won’t accept it until he sues hos wife's love, which is problematic if she’s been doing one night s…
/r/MensRights19/02/24 01:10 AM
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I agree we should do better with sec ed, condoms, birth control yo prevent unwanted pregnancy. But I think you overestimate just how many people use birth control (for medical reasons, they've been advised not to have kids) or use it because they know they cannot raise a child, and it fails anyway. As for the general case of unwanted pregnancy, why should a fetus without a mind have more right to live than the person hosting it has a right to decide if they want to be a parent?
/r/MensRights23/01/24 05:29 PM
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So you would be fine denying abortions to women except under medical necessity?
/r/MensRights23/01/24 02:12 AM
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Its not a pay gap, it's an earnings gap. There's a difference. A pay gap is people being paid different amounts for the same job. An earnings gap is when different jobs are compensated at different rates. The earnings gap has little to do with gender discrimination and everything to do with personal choices of the applicant. I agree it should be studied. And that your questions are worth asking. But lets call it by it's correct name, an earnings gap, not a pay gap.
/r/MensRights19/01/24 07:19 PM
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Yet every car owner should understand some basics about maintaining their car. This is one of those things you learn "because you'll need it someday."
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/24 06:40 PM
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It would be nice if the emotional intelligence claimed was translated into fact. When a man shares to his women, his expectation is that she will listen and validate his feelings (just like she expects him to do), and adapt. Sadly this type of sharing often turns into her hurt feelings, him apologizing, and her remembering it to use it against him later in an argument. Been married a long damn time to a very good woman yet I've only heard her sincerely apologize a few times. I've apologized hund…
/r/MensRights19/01/24 06:34 PM
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Men have two options when asked to do something or change something. Agree and do the thing or make the change. Or disagree and not do the thing or make the change. Nagging comes about when either (a) the man disagrees and is tired of telling her so, or (b) he has made those changes and refuses to make more until she reciprocates (odds are he's shared his feelings about that and gotten punished for it so he keeps silent after so many failures for her to listen and change). Women nag, men keep si…
/r/MensRights19/01/24 06:31 PM
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I'm just guessing here, but it seems the Trump team might have argued that removing these tax deductions would somehow reduce the number of divorces. But that doesn't make much sense since fact women initiate divorce far more often. Or maybe it was just a way to earn more tax and screw the men who wind up paying it (greed, seems a strong candidate).
/r/MensRights12/01/24 10:16 PM
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There are also studies showing men are now doing 3x more child rearing than in the 40-60s. Yet so often men are framed as being babysitters, or dead beat Dads.
/r/MensRights12/01/24 09:58 PM
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The thing I've noticed over almost 60 years of living is that women tend to work at multiple tasks at the same time, often starting one thing, getting diverted and doing seven other things then coming back to the original thing. Like this: She starts to clean the bathroom. Then has to take something to the kitchen where she stops and texts four people, reads 3 emails, flits through social media, starts eating breakfast, then adds clothes to the laundry. And throws out some bad food from the frid…
/r/MensRights12/01/24 09:55 PM
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Agreed. I like to frame it that men are more successful at being violent. This is true in both dv and suicide. Women initiate it more, stoke it more, manipulate to have another man do it far more often than men farm it out. But when a man is pushed to it, he's far more likely to be successful. The thing so often missed in many of these conversations is to bring in emotional violence (reputation destruction, self worth destruction, verbal and mental abuse) where women are heavily in the lead. The…
/r/MensRights12/01/24 09:44 PM
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Shouldn't the response be, "What happened to being a strong independent woman?" There are plenty of ways a woman can protect herself if she really is strong and independent. Weapons that compensate for lack of size and strength, just like elderly or invalid men have to.
/r/MensRights12/01/24 09:16 PM
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Yeah, and the lie in the quote you shared is the 'remain unsure'. What they really mean is "can't be honest about the cause because we'll get fired and it won't be published".
/r/MensRights12/01/24 09:05 PM
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about people being economically productive, useful members of society. How do you define 'useful'? If the young men pay for their own lives and survive, is that sufficient? Are women held to whatever the standard is for being 'useful'? Yes, there's more than getting laid. There's offspring, romantic life partner, and family, none of which seem like viable options to many young men today. Those, in the past, were great motivators for men's hard work and sacrifice. There are other motivations of c…
/r/MensRights12/01/24 08:53 PM
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Ignore the genders (and the sizes, and relative lethality). Is person B responding to an attack from person A? If so, self defense. If not, it's an assault. All of which doesn't mean you won't wind up arrested, and have to fight a charge of assault. Morals don't always align to legal realities.
/r/MensRights08/01/24 07:30 PM
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They blame it on men because we are ever the perpetrator of all that's wrong with the world. They don't want to admit that they compete with other women for social dominance because it removes the 'i'm always a victim' claim.
/r/MensRights08/01/24 07:11 PM
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Women are making requests he change himself to make him more attractive to them. Not really what you claimed. Would a women not be offended by a man who told her she should wear longer skirts, or less makeup, or cut her hair differently? Damn straight she would. His wife's opinions matter but shouldn't be the deciding factor, his opinions should. Just like him liking no makeup shouldn't decide her to never wear makeup.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 05:30 PM
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I can see the argument. But I’m just pessimistic enough to doubt the term 'mother' will be removed from all family laws and divorce laws. Father might, but mother won't. This isn't a needed change by the majority of people having babies but does impact them as it tries to remove their traditional roles. Why not simply make a form that allows for a label option, so mother, father still work, birthing parent, non also does, birthing parent or mother alone works for single mothers. I get accommodat…
/r/MensRights03/01/24 09:43 AM
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Is the non birthing parent (regardless of gender) going to be treated by their laws as a full parent with full and equal responsibilities, not just financial shit-canning as so often happens only to men? So lesbian or trans couple, does that mean the birthing parent has total say over the child from birth if they are not married? Does the non birthing parent get immediately stuck with 18 years child support if they are not married? Will they carry this naming into all legal areas so in divorces …
/r/MensRights03/01/24 09:36 AM
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Pitcher, catcher. Inserted, incubator?
/r/MensRights03/01/24 09:31 AM
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From men, which gets mostly ignored. Needs to come from women who demand less man hate and start focusing on bad behavior regardless of gender. That is if they want to be treats well in 50 years. Social upheavals can be brutal, especially if combined with economic collapse or war, who knows what the next cycle will be.
/r/MensRights03/01/24 09:25 AM
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Exit in a way that leaves them confused if they were insulted. “I just realized I’m not in your league.” Framing it that way encourages the idea that her 'league' is better, rather than it being a euphemism for ‘I don't date trash'.
/r/MensRights03/01/24 09:19 AM
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My response as well.
/r/MensRights03/01/24 09:17 AM
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Then they ought to say it more clearly because if a man say “women are gold diggers” even if he only means some of them, he's judged as a bigot and misogynist. Pointing out the double standard helps.
/r/MensRights01/01/24 10:56 PM
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Notice how their overly broad sayings such as “kill all men” and “we don’t need men” are acceptable despite being very bigoted and when pushed on they always claim it's not meant literally. But when men say “women are gold diggers” or “304s” it is literal and misogynistic?
/r/MensRights01/01/24 10:53 PM
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Please demonstrate. Anything in the past 100 years will do.
/r/MensRights31/12/23 06:35 AM
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That’s an unwarranted assumption once you add generations into the mix which is what that level of wealth and influence requires. Husbands,any run the company (may, not always) but wife typically sways husbands decision making significantly. And she’s responsible for training the next generation. So don’t assume it’s not anal hands on deck endeavor.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 05:50 PM
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Because she was 'afraid'. I didn’t say it was rational.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 05:41 PM
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Not anymore. I'm 57, married 35+ years. Used to stop and help ladies with flat tires, engine issues, and such. Wife watched me help and the women complained to the cop. He knew me so ignored her. Wife told me it was time to limit who I helped to family and close friends. I agree and have.
/r/MensRights29/12/23 10:17 PM
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Question. Why the focus on feeling unfairly treated rather than being objectively unfairly treated? Isn’t ’feelings' too subjective a measure to be useful? Women can 'feel' threatened walking a street in broad daylight with no dangerous people around them. They can also 'feel safe' in the arms of a total douche who will abuse her and mistreat her. I agree extreme feminists won’t be worth the conversation but I do think we need to focus on objective differences rather than feelings.
/r/MensRights29/12/23 09:35 PM
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Call her “NPC”, you'll know what it means.
/r/Divorce_Men29/12/23 06:57 PM
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I'll give you some. The group of people who use birth control because they've been told not to have babies for health reasons but still get pregnant. If you're going to argue a 'future life' matters than 'future health issues' should too. Which is why it should be between pregnant woman and her doc, not the state.
/r/MensRights29/12/23 06:50 PM
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Great, so you're going to sign up to be a garbage man, a street sweeper, plumber, miner, bricklayer, or other heavy infrastructure jobs nearly all performed by men? Or is it only high paying, high status, cushy jobs that should be equal? You are engaging in the Apex fallacy, where you focus on a tiny fraction of the men at the tip top and miss out on all the heavy inequality in the much bigger levels below where women actually have it much better than men. Read up on it, and than look at things …
/r/MensRights29/12/23 06:33 PM
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https://www.acf.hhs.gov/css/policy-guidance/modernizing-child-support-enforcement-fees Maybe I’m reading this incorrectly but everywhere I look I see child support payments with notes as to what fees the state can assess as part of collecting child support. What am I missing here?
/r/MensRights24/12/23 05:32 PM
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Honestly, my response would be, “So you don't know history well, then? There's a reason children got the surname of the father. It may not apply any longer, but be carful what you wish for because the reason for the surname is also part of why child support is assessed to the father. You should read up a bit and try to understand the whole perspective. If you disagree at that point, fair enough, but then you will also understand why men who have been almost completely cut out of their kids lives…
/r/MensRights24/12/23 09:10 AM
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Where is the 'here' that you reference? Because my understanding is from the U.S., several states operate this way.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 08:47 AM
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My understanding is if the man pays $400 to the government, they pass on a big portion, say $360 to the mother but retains that $40 for “administration cost”. If the mother gets assistance beyond that (some do, some don’t), it is a different program entirely and has nothing to do with child support.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 05:40 AM
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My generation was latch+key kids but our parents were still pushing strongly the “be a man” and the state of divorce courts wasn’t as bad, and more importantly, the information about how bad they are wasn’t shared. Internet changed that.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 05:21 AM
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Good for them. It’s a very bad deal the way it currently stands.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 05:18 AM
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Add in the chance of divorce being increased with the typical single mother situation. She gets half, and takes the kids who you may have developed a relationship with but have no legal rights to. But you will get stuck with child support. All of the major issues, none of the benefits.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 05:17 AM
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Make it so they must register for selective service before they can vote, own a loan, or any of that stuff. Just get it equalized, no special treatment.
/r/MensRights22/12/23 08:24 AM
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Now go measure how many in the twoxchromosomes sub do exactly the same thing. I'll grant you your claim initially even if I think you're wrong just to see how honestly you can analyze that sub.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 09:27 PM
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Given that marriage is a legal fiction designed to create protections, most of which are no longer equally applied, it may be a good thing to have marriage rates historic lows in order to reset some of the injustices in the current system.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 04:49 PM
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Sometimes to break the propoganda in a person's mind requires a hard bump into reality that disproves what they've been conditioned to believe. It's not a 'win' so much as it is a natural consequence that may someday cause feminists to rethink their beliefs.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 04:48 PM
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Please don't make this sweeping generalization. I'm not a feminist but do stand up for LGBT rights. My son is gay and I supported him and his husband when they were married. You're assuming that men's rights advocates are all conservatives when MRA covers the field from liberal to conservative.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 04:46 PM
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Men also do not live their lives on emotion which makes their decision making less prone to easy influence. There's a reason why the majority of ads are targeted to women.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 04:43 PM
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Men should respect women, and women should respect men, it’s not a one way street. I'm going to disagree with you on principle. Respect is learning to trust someone based on their behaviors. Women, collectively, haven't earned respect any more than men have. Common courtesy on the other hand, everyone deserves, meaning to be treated fairly, to be spoken to as adults, to be able to listen to their point of view. That's not respect, it's courtesy. It is being co-opted as is the 'believe women'. It…
/r/MensRights08/12/23 10:50 PM
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Why would it matter which gender are the perpetrators when the focus is on helping the victims but the current process is sexist in that it focuses only on female victims?
/r/MensRights08/12/23 10:34 PM
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OP would have been better off contrasting egalitarian vs feminist to showcase the misandrist results of a feminist city. There are no cities that run under purely feminist rules or egalitarian rules. But we could model the outcome given current feminist policies that do exist in a lot of western cultures. And the more egalitarian policies that exist in some.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 06:04 PM
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Yeah, my preference for OP would be change it from feminist city vs MRA city to feminist city to egalitarian city (which would by definition include concerns equally for both genders). Makes a much better distinction because it still highlights the misandrist nature of the feminist city while not triggering those who feel MRA is anti-women. Just focus on both genders being treated well.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 06:01 PM
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Take a look at how many women, children, and men, are treated in homeless centers each year in your country. If it's a western country, odds are the number of women is multiple times the number of men. That there may not be enough overall is one problem, but in any given city, if women are 20 times more likely to have a shelter as an option, or to be allowed in the shelter and men not, it's a different problem.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 05:59 PM
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Why would they being mothers change the punishment? It doesn’t if they are fathers.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 02:16 AM
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Has she apologized for the things she's done wrong in the marriage and shown you how she plans to fix those if you get back together? Has she explained why she initiated the separation and why that was a mistake? Has she demonstrated that she wasn't monkey branching to what appeared a better life and changed her mind? If she hasn't done any of those things then why are you taking any of it as a real change? Watch the actions, not the words. Adults who seek to reconcile start up front with admitt…
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 05:07 PM
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It’s that it’s over representing “sexual harassment” by redefining what it means to “talk to a woman”. Which is ludicrous. Women are humans beings and social beings as well. They are part of a community, not special snowflakes who need to be treated like royalty.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 05:01 PM
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Rubbish. It can range from a polite short conversation to maybe harassment, no need to paint with such a broad brush from the get go. It just encourages a victim mindset.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 04:28 PM
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It’s a common tactic I’ve noticed. From what I can tell you being up an issue, her first response is emotional and responding as if you are attacking her. Then the conversation shifts from 'how can we solve a problem I’m experiencing' to 'how can he make me feel better' and now in her mind it’s you who caused the issue, and you who needs to make her feel better.
/r/Divorce_Men29/11/23 03:31 PM
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But also more soft snd effeminate collectively. You're focused on race, OP is focused on the typical masculine traits being no longer shown or less shown in the leading men.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:17 PM
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I was just explaining, not sure I agree. What I do see is the way numbers are presented blows the ratios out of proportion on the bad side. The stupid stat of 1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted in their life. But when you look into how they define SA and see how broadly they define it, it’s an issue. How they framed domestic violence blaming men while working hard to ensure it's not possible in many places to even report if a woman was domestically violent. Newer studies that compensate for…
/r/MensRights28/11/23 05:25 PM
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He's talking about the tendency in social discussions where some men do terrible things, all men are lumped together in the criticism. Concepts like, “but all men could do this” are bandied about to suggest that all men are inherently dangerous (we are, but not necessarily in the way implied). But when the vast majority of protectors, military, law enforcement are men, in those same social discussions the gender is ignored, the service is ignored except in exceptional cases where the individual …
/r/MensRights28/11/23 04:57 PM
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Gotta love how mother can abort it, abandon it, put it up for adoption, or keep it (but get support that is forcibly obtained rather than accepting full responsibility for the decision). And father options are pay for it or got to jail.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 06:22 PM
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No disagreement there. I've been out of it for more than 35 years but can see such a shift in what's going on vs what used to.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 05:50 PM
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It's hard to 'prioritize' long term commitments when women see 80% of dateable men as unattractive. Most of those 80% will not be given a choice to have a long term commitment.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 05:26 PM
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And those who also say they struggle to find 'economically viable' men.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 05:23 PM
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How long do you think that state of affairs obtained, and in which countries during which millennia? For much of human history the law was whatever the ruler said, and it was mostly men, but not all. And most men were no more rulers than most women. Bank accounts are recent. Personhood is likewise recent, as is bodily autonomy (do men have bodily autonomy if we have to sign up for selective service to be considered full citizens?) Voting… women trialed men in most jurisdictions by less than 40 y…
/r/MensRights23/11/23 04:00 AM
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If you ask most of them what their attractiveness is the answer you'll get is that nearly all of them are 10s. Which suggests no, they do not live in reality.
/r/MensRights23/11/23 03:55 AM
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Women, sure. Feminists won’t help unless they let go of that toxic ideology and adapt instead a more egalitarian one.
/r/MensRights22/11/23 02:29 PM
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Ask them to demonstrate how men are favored. Not just a tiny fraction of ultra successful rich men, all men.
/r/MensRights22/11/23 07:42 AM
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Great. Go convince feminists and report back once you have succeeded.
/r/MensRights22/11/23 04:42 AM
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Is the principle of the thing. Feminists are great at standing to protect women in any case. But laugh at anything negative about men. Why would anyone who is the victim of their prejudice work with them?
/r/MensRights22/11/23 04:41 AM
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Domestic murder = agreed Domestic violence = disagree, latest stats show women are almost exactly as violent to a partner as men, most relationships both partners are violent to each other. Additionally this doesn't take into account the emotional abuse in those relationships where women are several times more likely than men to engage in it. Sexual abuse = not necessarily, there may be more male victims than women it’s just not reported Genital mutilation = hell no, men are far more likely to b…
/r/MensRights21/11/23 05:49 PM
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Totally agree.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 01:37 AM
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You can have plenty of respect for women as individuals while recognizing a failure of DEI as an approach.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 02:30 PM
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Experience? Performance? Either one suffices to support a belief that anyone hired specifically for DEI likely isn’t the best candidate. And it shows on the performance end. And working with them can make it clear as well. It’s not just that ‘she’s a woman’ but rather that ‘she became CEO for DEI, not experience, education, or stellar performance’.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 02:27 PM
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35+ years and still going. It can be done, but it is so much harder than when I was dating so I get why the numbers are what they are. I don’t blame the young men today, in fact I would advise not to marry because if it doesn't last it’s so much worse for him.
/r/MensRights19/11/23 11:23 PM
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Hiring quotas do effectively that. If you had a quota that said no women get hired for manager and above until jobs at all levels were 50% women, the path to management becomes clear.
/r/MensRights19/11/23 10:40 PM
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I've been married 35+ years to the same woman, trusted her with our kids but if the test had been available I would add it to the dozen other ones they put newborns through just for the medical part of it. Women feeling they are distrusted if hubby insists on the test seems a catch 22. He can believe her, not have the test, and run risks with their child's health because she is insecure. Or he can have the test, not take risks with their child and risk offending her. I don’t have much patience w…
/r/MensRights19/11/23 10:11 PM
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Why is it justified? If she’s not been lying it’s still a good thing because it not only determines paternity but also can identify genetic issues. The only time it should be a problem is if she’s a cheater. You frame it as destroying a relationship due to lack of trust. I'll grant that the 29% number is likely too large overall, but there are genetic studies showing over multiple generations the number of children not genetically related to both parents which are no adopted is like 10-15%, whic…
/r/MensRights19/11/23 08:21 AM
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It's just another form of SIGN language.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 08:55 PM
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What if? I didn't address that at all. My only comment was about wives essentially breaking their vows, abandoning their husbands, and moving on. Single women are free to do what they want, but the real question for them is, why didn't Ukraine retain them for war as well?
/r/MensRights17/11/23 08:35 PM
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I didn't say what ratio where wives. I said the specific situation where she is a wife when she leaves. Sure, a dead husband means if she remarries she's not dishonoring her vows.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 08:34 PM
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Do you call out misandry? Publicly?
/r/MensRights17/11/23 08:30 PM
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I think you would also need to factor in how many of those women are in homes that once were part of a married couple and got the home in the divorce while the man got stuck with the big support costs and can no longer afford a home. I'll bet the difference is marginal after that's factored in.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 08:23 PM
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I would love to see data supporting this claim as it's not been my experience at all. I take a skeptical view of the claim that women are better communicators when so often what is meant is they communicate MORE on feelings than men do. That doesn't make them better communicators all over, just having increased propensity to share emotional connections. If they can't make a concise, direct, and clear statement to communicate a goal, they are NOT good communicators. I've been working in corporate…
/r/MensRights17/11/23 08:20 PM
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When a wife leaves the country to keep her and kids safe, I have no issue with that. But when she then cheats on her husband, abandons him, and starts being a promiscuous woman and posting about it, yeah, she's not worth much after that. It's disgusting and shallow behavior. I get why they do it, doesn't make it any better than the man who goes to a new country, can't get a job, can't find money, so takes up thieving. Same approach to their problem.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 07:50 PM
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Because their supposed goal is gender equality, right? So shouldn't men's expendability be fixed or at least made equal?
/r/MensRights17/11/23 06:11 PM
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The irony in the title DEI where "Inclusion" is supposedly a prime goal.
/r/MensRights16/11/23 08:05 PM
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"Women failed the M She U, not men." I like it, short, pithy, to the point. Add in "62% of movie tickets the first week were men. So where are all the feminists who should be supporting this?"
/r/MensRights15/11/23 03:55 PM
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Bullshit. Women control access to sex. Women choose their partners. Ready birth control and feminism (including its influence on promiscuity, divorce, unrealistic standards and anti-male rhetoric);is what's caused the incredible rise of single mothers. Look at any other period in history. 80% of women mated and had children while only 40% of men did, yet single mothers made up single digits of the population and that includes widows. Today no fault divorce,the focus on female empowerment (to the…
/r/MensRights11/11/23 10:40 AM
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Why is SA the only crime where we drastically lower the epistemic standard? I'm sticking with presumed innocent until she can convince a jury and think any losses due to her character smear campaign should come from her finances.
/r/MensRights11/11/23 10:09 AM
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They are referring to studies which have shown that women become less attractive to men as they age. The studies show that men, from teens to their 70s pick women from 18-24 as the hottest age and it drops off rapidly after 30. There are other studies showing it’s not a matter of conditioning, just showing men images and paying attention to eye dilation, breathing, etc. support these ideas. It’s tied to men's mating strategy, look for young, pure, fit, fertile, feminine, and submissive (able to …
/r/MensRights09/11/23 08:40 AM
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It’s not private discrimination for state run universities. Nor when the private institutions take requirements for diversity and inclusion to mean exclude men. Yet they do. As for the state differences, don’t think you can dismiss the issue so easily. In most states, except those who have a required 50/50 split, which are few, the woman is assumed to make less and be the primary caregiver, which means the man is discriminated against from the start. Add in that as far as reproductive rights, wo…
/r/MensRights09/11/23 05:15 AM
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Because most of the divorce laws favor women. Men have to be signed up for selective service (draft). There are many places with quotas for women and none for men such as college entrances, jobs, conferences. It's not as bad as the UK or Australia but it's not good.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 10:08 PM
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Will second engaging in hobbies. Heck, even certain types of charity work are great for making male friends. For example, the ones where you build homes for the poor, good way to learn basic skills and make a difference while finding male friends. The gun community is also good. Heck, I was part of it since I was maybe 12 (1978). My wife never really got into it until about 5 years ago, but now she and I both enjoy. So for a while it was me and guy friends, and sons. Now she and I do stuff. But …
/r/MensRights08/11/23 10:01 PM
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Glad to hear you had a good relationship. We need more of those. Daughters need Dads just as much as Dads need daughters. My daughter had a little girl who is just like her, so I get to enjoy some of the same stuff second time around.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:56 PM
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Should we just point out that if men cannot 'expect' women to smile, talk to us, be polite, or agree to sex, then they cannot expect men to walk on the outside, protect them, or put their safety on a higher rung than the man's?
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:41 PM
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You also have to question how they determine what constitutes 'domestic labor'. Do they count the time a woman spends on the phone, grabbing a snack, talking to the neighbor all while 'cleaning the bathroom'? Do they count the amount of time the machines take to do a load of laundry or dishes? Then there's the reality that most women make more mess than men. I spent a year and a half cleaning public restrooms at a mall and a high rise office and women are messier than men, despite the 'can't pis…
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:35 PM
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I do think men will generally work faster. A couple of reasons. When its a scrubbing, lifting, or moving things job the additional strength and arm reach can make the task go faster. Men may be willing to adapt more readily to a more effective cleaning process. Men are also far less likely to do multiple tasks at the same time. I've noticed my wife will 'clean her bathroom' and wind up on two calls, several texts, roll through some social media, make a snack, and change laundry, to the point she…
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:32 PM
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From the 4-5 studies or worse, surveys, that I have seen, no home maintenance and renovation are not typically considered. But women's domestic chores will often include the time machines spent doing the chore.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:24 PM
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Exactly. Most of the survey's I've seen discount any home maintenance yet include time for laundry which includes the time the machine spent doing the cleaning.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:21 PM
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Guy has the wrong connection between choice and responsibility. As long as women can choose whether to take birth control, abortion, abandonment, adoption or keeping the child, she should also have full responsibility to provide for that child.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:13 PM
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They are still far safer than at any time in history despite the complaints.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:06 PM
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This is it. Where men get physically violent when confronted or denied, women turn to reputation destruction and self image destruction.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 05:57 PM
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I prefer the direct attack when someone says you or anyone is mansplaining. “Excuse me, but I really don't appreciate the sexist remark. I’m explaining because we have several people in the audience and I’m ensuring we are all on the same page to start off with, which is one step to effective communication. Now if you want to take over with the broad explanation for everyone I’m happy to let you. But no more sexist remarks, okay?”
/r/MensRights07/11/23 05:43 PM
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That’s because it's really easy to argue against a vilified strawman, a technique of creating a strawman but using language about it which puts in obviously villainous to begin with. Like the question, “When did you stop beating your wife?” This is a vilified strawman setup. Any answer to the question is wrong, so the only good answer is to attack them for asking the question, which sets them up as the victim.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 05:38 PM
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I think what needs to happen to give incentive to those trying to use the insanity defense is to require a full check by 3 mental health professionals. If found sufficiently unwell enough to not be responsible, they Immediately go into full care treatment and remain there without ability to check out, until evaluated as being fully functioning adult, responsible for all future actions. But if found well enough to stand trial there should be some addition for the mental health attempt. Either the…
/r/MensRights07/11/23 05:31 PM
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Buy the book, “No More Mr. Nice Guy” by Dr. Robert Glover. Seriously, read it and use the approaches it documents to claw back some control over your life. Had a friend express this sentiment years ago to another guy we met in a situation similar to yours. His advice to that men was both funny and impactful. “Go get your wife's purse. Dig down inside, all the way to the bottom. When you find two small hairy, dusty things, pull them out, wash them off, and put your balls back where they belong. I…
/r/MensRights07/11/23 05:25 PM
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No I don¡t. I think you need yo learn more about the roots of feminism and just how anti-men its proponents have been politically and legally over the decades. Start here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s-3WgAo-Gk
/r/MensRights07/11/23 05:20 PM
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Just to point out the voting rights thing isn't as telling as the feminist narrative assumes. Women got the right to vote generally only a few decades after the average men got that right. Prior to that it was the realm of royalty or the rich to make any decisions regarding rule. So humans exist for 200,000 years, and the average man got the ability to vote only in the past 100-200 years. And whenever men got the vote, it generally came with the responsibility to be drafted too. Many men caught …
/r/MensRights07/11/23 04:57 PM
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Rubbish. The U.S. has handguns in si liar ratios to people for over 100 years but it’s only in the last 30 where mass shootings have grown (helped by redefining what constitutes a mass shooting). And not helped by people focusing on what looks scary in guns rather than why people use a gun.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 06:49 AM
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Men in Queensland are going on a sex strike, right? Husbands telling their wives that since they can now withdrawn consent retroactively it’s no longer safe to allow sex with her. Hookers now unemployed because of it? What about strippers, OF 'models' can they also withdraw consent, thus enabling a transfer of wealth which causes jail time for the man who’s been fleeced? Heck, what about porn stars, can they now get the directors, producers, male stars arrested! How long after can consent be wit…
/r/MensRights05/11/23 05:14 PM
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Yes, you are responsible for who you choose to marry unless you were forced. But that dosn't make you responsible for the decisions they made, how they changed, what friends they had, what media they consumed (and thus what narratives they entertained). Or whether they had integrity or kept to high moral standards. People change. They lie. They get convinced of a lot of BS by their friends, co-workers, time alone, stressors, and untreated mental illnesses or childhood issues. All of it comes int…
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/23 06:40 PM
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Most recent stats on domestic violence show that its about equally balanced in terms of physical violence. And mostly jointly violent to each other. So yeah, there are some situations where women are abused more or even killed, but that number has been blown out of proportion. Know what isn't talked about hardly at all is that women are far more likely to engage in emotional violence to men, reputation or self worth destruction (which often precedes the physical violence between the two).
/r/MensRights03/11/23 06:08 PM
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I disagree. Why should the gender of the law maker matter unless you can prove sexism in favor of one gender? Keep in mind that soon it will be more women than men in power, so what then?
/r/MensRights03/11/23 05:33 PM
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Which is a tiny fraction of men. Yet the 'not all men' is typically offered in response to sweeping generalizations about men. Until feminists start to actually demonstrate they have a sense of proportion we might be better off using inverse exaggerations just like they do. I¡m not in favor of it because I prefer finding the truth. But the Big Lie technique has been shown to work. As has gaslighting and generalizing.
/r/MensRights03/11/23 04:59 PM
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But there is in the U.S. which I suspect is where the poster you replied to is from. Women are legally not required to have the same responsibilities as men for voting. In fact there are a ton of things at both federal and state levels which are available to women just for existing but only available to men if they've signed up for selective service.
/r/MensRights03/11/23 04:46 PM
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Which is a rare state of affairs for most couples today. But you still didn't address the question. Just to make it clear, I've been married 35 years to the same woman. During that time she's been full time worker while I held down part time and did full time college. She's been SAHM while I worked full time. I've worked full time while she went back to school after kids grew up enough not to need Mom at home all the time. And we both work full time today. During those years there have been time…
/r/MensRights01/11/23 07:58 PM
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You believe children should have a lesser quality of life when parents get divorced? Generally, yes, because that's just the reality of it. Think about it. In cases where only the man works, his funds now have to go to supporting two households. So unless he's a multimillionaire, quality of life must go down somewhat. If both parents work, still the same problem. The question shouldn't revolve around quality of life going down, but what's the acceptable quality of life for the kids without ruini…
/r/MensRights01/11/23 07:44 PM
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Given how few women now do put their career on hold, the laws need to be updated to take into account the situation. Current laws assumed wife would be full time housewife and homemaker, with no job skills and unable to adequately support herself and children without ex-husband's help. And couldn't if also continuing to be full time mother and home maker. That's not the normal situation today. Most women work full time. Many even make more than their husbands. And with a 50/50 split why should e…
/r/MensRights01/11/23 07:33 PM
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If you are going to be that strict with it and not admit that the whole "til death do us part" isn't enforced, then she should owe him sex and intimacy forever as well since that's literally what "to have and to hold" means.
/r/MensRights01/11/23 07:29 PM
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The social programs to support needs like this, I get. My big concern though is how easy it is for women to make terrible decisions and gaming the system. There should be some consequences to being lazy, irresponsible, or promiscuous though I agree it shouldn't be the children who pay these consequences.
/r/MensRights01/11/23 07:22 PM
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How do you evaluate that? The studies claiming women do more unpaid work in the home were flawed as they excluded things like home maintenance, yard work, and didn't account for women's tendency to claim the full time a job took while ignoring that half the time was spent on the phone. Second, why should unpaid work be the standard here rather than just setting a minimum required quality of life and then only for a certain period of time in terms of alimony?
/r/MensRights01/11/23 07:16 PM
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https://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/appellate-division-second-department/2018/2015-01796.html Only requires one example to prove you're wrong. Pernups, even written by an attorney and early enough before the wedding can and have been invalidated. Prenups can help, I never said otherwise. But a judge can invalidate a prenup for several reasons that have nothing to do with it being written on a napkin. So it's not a guarantee.
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/23 08:56 PM
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Consider that the most recent studies in domestic violence (ones striving to be non biased) show an almost equal distribution of domestic physical violence between men and women. But also indicate that women are far more likely to be emotionally abusive and more often the instigator who turned the situation physical. Then ask who is really the violent ones?
/r/MensRights30/10/23 08:22 PM
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Can images like this not be sent to the application owners and used to shut down these users and the posts? When they include death threats they are illegal even if the platform doesn't want to address hate speech against men.
/r/MensRights30/10/23 08:10 PM
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Avoid marriage Vote for men's right activists and if no other option, non feminists Tell your attorney to help by using statistics from non biased sources and not just roll over and play dead (helps when you have evidence you can point to showing that the judges assumptions are not valid) Seek to have judge's decisions reviewed when they ignore important aspects of the case
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/23 07:59 PM
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Do a quick google search. You'll find a number of legal resources (law firms) that answer the question whether a prenup can be invalidated and under what conditions. Which should be enough to know that some do get invalidated. You can do that research yourself, it's not hard. I'll give you one link to start off. https://www.divorcelawnj.com/are-all-prenuptial-agreements-upheld/
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/23 07:56 PM
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And that men are to blame for everything.
/r/MensRights30/10/23 07:40 PM
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There are safety nets for almost every bad decision they make, unless it’s immediately lethal.
/r/MensRights29/10/23 08:27 AM
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They might actually start with admitting it’s just toxic behavior they should worry about since both genders are capable of it.
/r/MensRights29/10/23 07:23 AM
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Wait until it's finalized. Then if it comes up, you don't have to tell them, but you can honestly say that you won't speak badly about her so you won't go into details. Just that, nothing more. Leave it to them to follow up if they wonder. If she complains just ask if she was expecting you to lie for her?
/r/Divorce_Men27/10/23 05:24 PM
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You explained well what I've experienced. Child number 5 of 6 born as a Gen-Xer. I've compiled all the old family photos (in part as a send-off when my mother died) so I'm well aware of exactly how few photos exist of myself and my younger brother alone or together versus the older siblings, especially the girls. Mother's Day vs Father's Day (even in my own household) is the same. I've pointed out the difference, she considered it, agrees with it, and by the next year had forgotten it. So simply…
/r/MensRights27/10/23 04:49 PM
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Makes you consider the whole 'fragile male ego' thing as mostly projection, doesn't it?
/r/MensRights27/10/23 04:38 PM
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I’ve noticed it and chosen not to let it affect how I behave. I'm an old Gen-Xer and have seen how feminism and women have changed over nearly 60 years. From what I’ve seen of civilizations on the edge of collapse, rudeness is one of the tale tell signs. So I’m polite unless physically pushed. Even if insulted I’m polite because what they think of me matters little, what I think of myself and of them, matters much more. You should see their reactions, I open the door, they get offended, I smile …
/r/MensRights27/10/23 04:01 AM
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Do you speak out against alimony laws that have been out of date and hurting men for 50 years?
/r/MensRights27/10/23 03:51 AM
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Feel free to reach out if you just need someone to talk to. There are plenty of men in this sub who would be a willing ear to talk with and could provide additional resources if you need more direct help.
/r/MensRights23/10/23 01:34 PM
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I think we all need validation. As kids we need Mom's validation on how we feel, are we loved, does she care what I feel. Mom's tend to nurture by nature so they give those emotional reassurances when they are little. Dad tends to be less nurturing but more goal oriented, which comes later in the kids life. Dad pushes, tells them ‘keep going even if you fail’. Dad helps them grow confidence and a thick skin which are necessary once the soft corners of childhood are removed.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 04:43 PM
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Try flipping it in your head. Man works hard to protect and provide for his wife and kids. Is it because he wants to dominate and manipulate her? Or is it because he cares for her and his kids and is willing to sacrifice and give for them? Been married 35 years to a traditional wife. During that time she's worked full time while I did school and part time job. I've worked full time while she was SAHM. These are conscious decisions we made together, I lost a job during the tech crash and ended up…
/r/MensRights22/10/23 04:59 AM
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Some have said it’s because a toxic relationship or treatment gives a bigger dopamine hit and women who are, by nature, attention seekers, become like addicts, needing more and more often. It’s also why they dress like they do and post like they do, some of it is likely due to lack of father in the home who would both validate and check them, plus provide a male role model.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 04:40 AM
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That absolutely IS true. Check out income vs cost of living expense (which is the 'living worse' part, meaning less disposable income, greater portion of income required for home, food, healthcare, transport) across the categories (ultra wealthy to poor) from 1920 to today. The earning rate vs cost of living for most groups today is a little worse than it was in the depression era and has held relatively flat over the past 100 years. It's only the top 1-1.5% that have seen high growth. This desp…
/r/MensRights10/10/23 04:30 PM
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Is what she did considered fraud? If she forged your signature it should be.
/r/Divorce_Men06/10/23 05:57 PM
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She did what any wealthy person should do in terms of her trust funds. The only thing I think she did wrong is not support his kids in terms of horses like she supports hers. If they are marrying, supposedly they are all 'her' kids too. Which has nothing at all to do with trust funds. Of course a prenup of what he gets if she cheats and vice versa isn't worth much. Given her wealth against his not, he's screwed if 10 years down the line she cheats. If she were smart she would alleviate some of h…
/r/MensRights06/10/23 04:42 PM
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Restrooms = it's an increasing trend for women to simply walk into men's rooms because they have to wait for their restroom. That's a form of taking advantage. They walk in and all the men at the urinals are now exposed, yes? Clubs (sorry, should have said clubs not bars!) = women in many get in free while men have to pay which is the club taking advantage of men on behalf of women. Yes? Gyms = There were men only gyms, now there are not because women invaded those spaces. Now they film in gyms …
/r/MensRights05/10/23 09:51 PM
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I don't see a problem if it's to combat SA on the train due to crowding. But if they are going to do that, what about places where women routinely take advantage of men? Like at restrooms, bars, gyms? Are they going to put any effort into protecting men in those spaces?
/r/MensRights05/10/23 07:16 PM
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Any woman telling you they wear makeup for themselves isn't either isn't honest or isn't self aware. At minimal they do it because it helps alleviate some insecurity. On average it's to compete with other women. At specific times they may do it for men.
/r/MensRights03/10/23 05:06 PM
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If anything they are good for more people to see because it will encourage some to look through your stuff and hopefully a light bulb goes on. They may not agree with all of it, but being evaluated for what you did say is usually a better read on who you are than evaluated for what you haven't said.
/r/MensRights03/10/23 04:58 PM
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It won't happen fast enough to be 2024. But by 2030 things may start to turn around. It will take a long time to shift the momentum of the fat bitch called social acceptance but the shift seems to have started.
/r/MensRights03/10/23 04:50 PM
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Why gender them then? Why not just call them toxic behavior? I'll tell you why, and it has nothing to do with masculine behaviors taken to the extreme. It's because being able to blame an entire gender for all social issues makes a permanent victim mentality which makes easy political points. Have you ever heard feminists talking about the damage done by toxic femininity? No, because they don't. If they claim anything women do is bad, it's always blamed on internalized misogyny, which is just a …
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:45 PM
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The issue is that only masculinity is deemed toxic and used as a blanket statement to cover anything man can be blamed for. Toxic behavior exists in equal part for both genders. No one denies that. Toxic masculinity isn't just that, it's a term used for political disparagement of men.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:39 PM
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Please demonstrate where it exists. And be sure you're not really talking about oligarchy instead (the rich and powerful running a country for example).
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:36 PM
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Try oligarchy. It's the correct way to describe a small group of people who have control of a country. Essentially, the wealthy and powerful use that to ensure they and their kids keep being wealthy and powerful. Feminism blames it on men, but reality is most men didn't have, and still don't have, power and wealth enough to matter.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:29 PM
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So get out as fast as you can now. Start over, this time taking time to figure out what you want out of life and then focusing on that.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:22 PM
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Should have followed up her claim on men paying and her being a traditionalist by asking, “So you're a virgin then?”
/r/MensRights17/09/23 08:15 AM
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Which is why we wait for evidence to substantiate the claims. In today's social media justice warrior system, women can make accusations with little to no repercussions while men are ‘convicted’ and punished before the evidence has even been presented. Given there are studies showing approximately 15% of rape allegations are lies or after-the-fact regrets, why should we believe women until we see the evidence?
/r/MensRights17/09/23 07:53 AM
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Do you have data to back up this claim?
/r/MensRights17/09/23 07:17 AM
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I used to have empathy far more than I do today. I've learned sometimes empathy is better for the victims (the children) than the ones who caused the harm (her and her choice of men to breed with). It is a shitty situation, but one of her own making. Her body, her choice, her responsibility. Sorry, but it does make her a shitty person to marry a man (and in the process, make all the marital commitments and lie about them) just to solve a problem she caused. He will wind up paying for her mistake…
/r/MensRights15/09/23 05:45 PM
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Men are always to blame. Even for women's choices.
/r/MensRights15/09/23 05:38 PM
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Yeah, I noticed how she focused it on young men's feelings, rather than being a good journalist and looking for objective data to see if it was rather young men's experiences.
/r/MensRights15/09/23 05:37 PM
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None of which changes to morality of the situation. It's still wrong to marry someone just for their money while telling them you love them and will commit to them for life. It won't end well because it doesn't start well. Also, that it's a very difficult life she's created for herself doesn't justify putting those burdens on anyone else.
/r/MensRights15/09/23 03:55 PM
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Response, "Exactly what part of 'strong, independent, woman' leads to this conclusion?"
/r/MensRights15/09/23 03:49 PM
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You used the wrong phrasing, “Society is literally built by men, for their families”. Men on the other hand, in our western culture, are less g respected, less cared for, while at the same time blamed for all of societies ills. Just look at how many male suicides there are vs female. Look at statements like men dying in war, women most affected. Women have tons of special help in education and the workplace, yet we're told men have privledge and so need this type of exclusion.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 03:02 PM
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While being snarky and thinking you've given a real zinger with your “protect us from what exactly”, you ought to consider just who it has been through most of human history that has contended with the wild animals, the forest fires, the invader and raiders. Who it is that has built modern civilization such that you, in the safest time in history, and with more privilege that most humans (any gender) have experienced in the last 20,000 years. Who has guarded the home, defended the vastly, define…
/r/MensRights14/09/23 07:07 AM
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They all care about the issues that I'd face just as much as what they face It's easy to claim shit. Much more difficult to demonstrate it. Can you demonstrate where feminism as a movement, has actually cared about men's issues enough to work on them, march on them, protest them, push for changes? If not, it's doesn't really matter how you subjectively feel about things your friends say they care about.
/r/MensRights12/09/23 04:16 PM
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I'm going to disagree on women being better at team building. They are better at following to be in alignment. Men tend to build better teams because they have well defined roles and hierarchy. Women want agreement for the emotional feeling of being in the group. Men need less consensus so long as everyone pulls together. Look at sports, military, business, survival, building, policing, manufacturing. Also look at which gender workers would rather have as a boss, it’s men for both genders.
/r/MensRights10/09/23 09:50 PM
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Never underestimate human stupidity. People, especially in crowds and groups, tend to exhibit group think. So if a movement can be labelled negatively by the crowd they are part of, most people won't bother thinking about it, they just accept the judgment and reinforce it by selection and confirmation bias.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 06:49 PM
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Name some.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 06:47 PM
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Gender may be the catalyst, but it's not where things go wrong. It's the extremism of behavior where it becomes toxic. And that's equally true for both genders, hence it's not really an issue with gender, it's an issue with taking things too far.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 06:36 PM
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I like it a different way. Red Pill - the dating game is rigged, here's how to win MGTOW - the marriage game is rigged, the only way to win is not to play MRA - We need to fix laws that are rigged against men
/r/MensRights01/09/23 06:27 PM
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Fair enough. Wasn't sure how they count being 'out of the workforce'. However they do, it's a shame and I don't blame the men at all. I do think our society is going to regret this. Women today may not, but the next generation, or the one after that? It's going to get ugly.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 03:15 PM
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Are they truly leaving the labor force, or have they simply turned to the gig economy where pay vs work can be more personally managed?
/r/MensRights31/08/23 03:49 PM
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Always keep in mind when statements like this are made that they are generally simplifications taken from a study or poll. Which can be problematic. The other piece to remember is the study was focused primarily on when the physical process starts, not that it results in overall more maturity in women. Bottom line is that women start earlier on average by a small margin, boys on average start a little later. But then women have a consistent physical maturation while boys maturation comes in jump…
/r/MensRights31/08/23 03:18 PM
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Who do feminists always bring up the idea of walking alone at night? Statistically men are still more likely to be attacked than women. Also, isn’t choosing to walk alone, in a darkened area, risky and thus a greater danger?
/r/MensRights31/08/23 03:34 AM
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Hope you've gotten an attorney now and are protecting yourself. If she's gotten one, you need to as well.
/r/Divorce_Men30/08/23 04:44 PM
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Glad to hear you listened and understood. We can share some of life’s challenge’s as we should, men and women talking together.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 04:07 AM
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And same when a man does it? So long as you answer 'yes' you're consistent. Not a good excuse still.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 01:18 AM
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From the top down: Oh, what did you do wrong to get stuck shopping with the kids? Why isn't Mom here? Is this man your father? Does he have permission to be with you? This is a choice each group makes, why does it make a woman a victim? Why is this creep taking photos of kids in the park, I'm calling the cops. Again, how barbers interact vs stylists has nothing to do with women being victims.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 03:51 PM
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Document all of it. On camera if possible. Don't assume you'll be destroyed financially, find out. If she's a terrible mother it's possible you could get custody. If she has a mental illness that threatens the kids even more so.
/r/Divorce_Men28/08/23 03:24 PM
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Just start a men only religion whose only activity is to provide men a place to meet other male friends, to share how to be better men, and to provide counsel and support for men's issues. Can't let any of it become anti-women or pro-cheating or anything like that. Just men's religion specifically to support healthy masculinity (anything that isn't toxic whether done by male or female).
/r/MensRights28/08/23 03:17 PM
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Agreed. Two things wrong with it. First, sharing intimate details like that is disrespectful. Which is a big no. Second, it's a partners job to try and make sex good. Long term each person is responsible for their own orgasms (because what works, when it works, how long it takes, whether they need it are all personal issues). So framing it "he can't make me cum" is not taking responsibility for her sexuality. Same thing true in reverse if a man frames it that way. An unwilling partner is one thi…
/r/MensRights28/08/23 02:41 PM
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When it comes down to it, a willing partner who can be trusted to listed and try to discover and help is probably the single best way for anyone to learn about their sexuality. And adapt to it as time, age, kids, work, stress, and sickness takes their toll.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 02:33 PM
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Or she was hoping to get this response. A feminist actively trying to intimidate because she knows the man is always accused.
/r/MensRights27/08/23 12:11 AM
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Take a look at all the reasons women give to get divorced. She got bored You weren't meeting her needs She feel in love with someone else You couldn't finance the lifestyle she wanted Those are just some. But you check them when any of this starts to happen. Like one rule I set in place when we married, long time ago, was no time spent alone with someone of opposite sex. This was way before the politician. It's hard to get that close to someone when you aren't alone with them. As for a check in …
/r/MensRights25/08/23 08:04 PM
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Romantically - date her every week, but talk about it and make it clear you'll both take turns planning dates and both be responsible for romancing the other. Put the shoes clearly on everyone equally. You also need to talk through what works for you. There are several quizes on love language that some find helpful, but what I think is most helpful is creating a space where you can each be brutally honest. Take the lead on this, but one way is to show her that as the man, you don't just need sex…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 07:53 PM
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majority stake in positions of power by certain men Instead of dancing around the idea trying to pin it on something male, why not use a much more accurate term, oligarchy. Has little to do with gender and everything to do with managing wealth and power.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 06:16 PM
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What say we add up over the past 3-5 centuries how genders were represented in the following activities: Building (anything, from homes to buildings to subways, railways, airports) Repairing / Maintaining (homes, roads, power and water, and more) Inventing / Creating Policing / Securing Warfare / Soldiering Growing / Expanding (economics) Discovering Cleaning (not just in the home, everywhere) Gathering (from food to basic materials like coal, silver, tungsten) Manufacturing (from smelting to as…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 06:06 PM
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We need laws like this, but I would just as much rather see mandatory DNA testing, fathership not assigned without a match (it can be accepted like with adoption, not assigned). And for their to be a set of paternity laws that deal with (a) getting the man out of child support if he's not the biological father, (b) father being able to opt out of being a parent (give him a choice just like the woman does), and (c) prosecution for lying about paternity (harder to prove but should be a crime).
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:57 PM
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Intent is relevant to some laws, not all. I've no idea how the court will go about it.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:53 PM
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Then don't use sexist labels for what isn't a sexist result. Call it elitism, or power mongering or oligarchy. There are a lot of other terms. This isn't the case of men systemically oppressing women, which is what the term patriarchy is supposed to mean. It is a case of the wealthy and powerful using that wealth and power to ensure they retain and grow them. Has little to do with gender or race.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:48 PM
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Don't use the word incel. Ever. It's nothing but shaming language, no matter who uses it. There are better, less shaming words to use. To some extent all subs are circle jerks. It's not necessarily a bad thing either, just means your expectations aren't meeting your reality. This sub can have members that stand for men's rights while simultaneously recognizing and complaining about the combination of female nature + misandry. Both can happen here. And do. Stop trying to be the tone police. It wi…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:44 PM
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Don't feel too alone. Historically only 40% of men procreated. It's even fewer today. Given the modern reality in western countries I wouldn't recommend getting married to anyone. Having kids is a different thing, you could adopt or go for surrogacy if it's possible in your area.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:31 PM
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I'm 57, married for over 35 years to the same conservative traditional woman. If I were your age, I honestly wouldn't even think of marrying, at least not in a western country. It's stacked against you. Most modern women aren't submissive to her man. But even if she is, once she's secure her opinion of her man can only go in three directions. Down because she wears him down and he gives in because he doesn't want what goes with divorce, men sacrifice for a lot of things, some of which aren't wor…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:26 PM
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In a good marriage women need to get checked. The man has to do it otherwise he ends up losing her respect. She wants and needs him to be strong enough to tell her 'no' at times. Yes, women are more attracted to men who give them less attention and who tell them no. Not in a rude way, just set the boundary and explain why it's there and not going to change.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:21 PM
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Try this. Instead of focusing on the gender (sexism) or the race (racism), focus on the real distinguishin characteristics. It's not being male or white because there are as many female and non white rich and powerful people. The key difference is hyper successful and able to retain (horde) the wealth and power. It's also familial, tying long lines of families together. Elite (any race, color, religion, gender) vs everyone else, rather than white men vs women. You'll have a much more compelling …
/r/MensRights25/08/23 04:57 PM
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Exactly right. Define the system. Define what results would demonstrate that misogyny is systemic. Now show the predictions and results.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 04:50 PM
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I can stand alone and doing so makes me stronger. I am the rock in my family, the protection, the provider and ultimately the leader (I'm an older man, 57). I taught our kids how to play hard, to think creatively and skeptically. How to work hard and become self reliant. That something being difficult means it can be rewarding to do. When our kids failed or hurt themselves, my wife consoled them and I pushed them to get up and learn from it and do it again until they get it right. To not let fea…
/r/MensRights22/08/23 08:01 PM
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Gender Traits aren't being swapped. Maybe gender roles? Maybe gender identities becoming fluid? Also, watch this. You'll see some similarities, especially the gender issues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ReBJfxHjFU
/r/MensRights22/08/23 07:33 PM
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Unless one spouse is totally lazy I doubt women are doing more than their fair share. It's more likely that they overestimate their labor while underestimating the men's. There are several studies that show men are more likely to underestimate the hours they spend cleaning, home maintenance and projects while women overestimate the same. There are also studies showing that when men are asked to evaluate their sexual market value they guess over a bell curve with 5-5.5 being the most common numbe…
/r/MensRights22/08/23 07:25 PM
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Unless there is a completely lazy spouse in the picture (either gender) I strongly suspect there isn't a work gender gap, there is instead a visibility gap. Meaning that one spouse (often the women) complains about all the emotional labor and the types of labor she performs that are routine and repetitive while downplaying the stuff her husband does which may be less routine and receptive while also being more dangerous, time consuming, and require a greater degree of skill to succeed. Let's be …
/r/MensRights22/08/23 07:05 PM
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If you're thinking like an evil asshole you could argue that 'girls need even more help since boys won't grow up to be protectors and providers'. So their solution to the problem they created will be to double down.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 06:37 PM
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Which takes time, raising awareness, and repeatedly demonstration all the gynocentrism. It's working so far, it's just very slow.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 08:29 PM
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White, 57, born in the U.S. but have lived in 17 countries. Paid my way through undergrad and grad (no financial aid available). Worked in visual design, graphic arts, UI and UX design. Married 35+ years to same woman. With 4 kids. Six figure income range. I have seen how feminism has changed, how women have changed. And the shift to support women and push men down. Raised three boys so I'm familiar with their dating and marriage challenges. I'm here because I see the issues.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 08:27 PM
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This! I've been an EMT and can speak from personal experience. Most women reporting suicide had no intention of following through. They call for help then take some pills hoping to get the attention and be saved. Most men you only find out about their attempt by their success. People say men choose more violent ways. I say men choose ways more intended to succeed at their goal of self elimination. Women choose ways more intended to fail to achieve their goal of getting attention. Men choose guns…
/r/MensRights21/08/23 08:14 PM
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Make them work a laborious, dangerous, outside job for basic money Be invisible the opposite sex Told everywhere and all the time that they are worthless or predators and all of society's ails are their fault.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 10:20 PM
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Why do you assume men don't feel the same?
/r/MensRights20/08/23 10:18 PM
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Yes, Congress can’t establish a religion or prevent people from practicing it. How do you get from there to a parents right to practice a religion means they get to mutilation their children who cannot give consent and do yet believe in that religion, nor practice it. The jump isn’t whether or not Congress can stop an adult practicing their religion. The jump is why the adult's religious beliefs allow them to harm their child **who doesn’t yet share, or even understand those beliefs”? If the adu…
/r/MensRights20/08/23 09:47 PM
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Women are not the vast majority of domestic abuse victims by the way at least that's true when reporting isn’t under a Duluth model where men are always the perpetrators and women always the victim. Turns out domestic abuse happens at roughly equal proportions. It's simply that many jurisdictions report any dv situation as male violence on female because that's their assumption. Do you want to know what types of couples have the least and the most cases of domestic violence? Gay male couples hav…
/r/MensRights20/08/23 08:15 AM
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If I’ve never done anything heinous to a woman (and most men haven't) then why am I being held responsible for those actions? I would be sexist to hold all women accountable for the heinous things a small percentage of women do to anyone, male or not. Right? Which means it's sexist the way you frame it. Or more accurately, the feminist narrative that all men are responsible for the behavior of a tiny fraction is sexist. Please list out what advantages you think men have over women in western soc…
/r/MensRights20/08/23 08:10 AM
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I'm struggling to see how the first amendment obtains when we're talking about the religious beliefs of a parent mutilating an infant who is too young to consent. It's not a needed medical procedure for a religious belief. It’s a mutilation imposed on one person by another because of the other person's beliefs. Shouldn’t such be limited to just their own body?
/r/MensRights20/08/23 07:17 AM
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Reputation destruction is the female version of physically lashing out for men. We have tons of rules in place to hold men accountable for assault in all its varieties. It’s time to recognize that there are other ways of hurting a person and putting rules for those too.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 04:13 AM
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Statistically in western countries women get far more lenient sentences for the same crime. Men are at both extremes when it comes to violence, more victims and more perpetrators. But courts often suffer the “women are wonderful” bias and judge accordingly. What’s being shown here is that a man accused of 7 months riders of babies while a nurse would typically be up for much worse sentencing.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 12:38 AM
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Feminists. Don’t tell me that’s not what feminism is, I’ve been around since the 60s and have seen it change. That’s exactly how the general populace of feminists think.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 12:24 AM
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Until you solve the issue where most women simply cannot empathize with a man, even their man, there's not much to do.
/r/MensRights19/08/23 09:41 AM
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Go back to requiring sufficient evidence yo establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. For both types of accused, false accusers or sexual predators. Make the punishment gender neutral, so men and women get the same treatment, the same wording, the same requirements. I know many women will say then that those who’ve been raped won't come forward. Maybe. But we know that men and women do domestic violence in about equal numbers. And there have been plenty of women committing rape, especially in a…
/r/MensRights19/08/23 09:18 AM
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Have been doing it for a while. Any identity politics movie gets ignored.
/r/MensRights19/08/23 09:07 AM
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You also ought to consider the narrative that women suffered at the hands of men a bit. Truth is that for most of history women have generally been more protected than men. Yes, they suffered, everyone did. But more than men of their time and economic status? I question feminisms narrative on this. Prior to peasants having rights that the wealthy and powerful (royalty) had to acknowledge, was life as a peasant woman that much more filled with suffering than that of the peasant man? Maybe instead…
/r/MensRights19/08/23 09:01 AM
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You have to look at behavior to truly see if what they want is equality, or only equality where they benefit, not when it costs them. Notice how feminists so often talk about it being mostly men who have all the capital, or C-suite jobs which is where they want equality. But not to be drafted, not to have to pay alimony when they are the higher earner, not to have to take a dirty manual labor job. Women and children first is still their motto. Men pay on the first date, too. They only want equal…
/r/MensRights19/08/23 08:17 AM
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saying men control access to relationships. The saying refers to marriage, not hookups, dating, or situationships. Men currently do control it as they are generally the ones deciding whether to ask for marriage. Chad isn't getting a relationship, he's getting a hookup, or several. I agree that the average guy is invisible, so he may not get a chance to offer a relationship. But it doesn't change that women generally still want to get married but they need a man to ask before they can.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 06:11 PM
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The feminist side of the house has a much larger issue with this, they even mock men for saying “not all men” when they should know, if they actually look at the stats, that it is most men who are not rapists or committing domestic violence. Yet they have no trouble demanding safe women space, special help to get hired and promoted, and so on. Which means they really do, as a group, push against all men. Backlash to that type of over generalization is as inevitable as it is uncomfortable.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 06:52 AM
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Yes, very. Women marry up, men marry sideways or down. We also evaluate what type of partner has the peak sexual marketplace value very differently from women. Women want things that indicate an ability to protect and provide, six foot tall, six figure income, in good shape, sexually talented, commanding, and a leader. Some of those attributes as a collection, are found only n the top 10% of men. Women control access to sex, men control access to relationships. So women claiming to stay single t…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 06:37 AM
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Shouldn’t it be 15 years for each murder? As it sits it’s only 7.5.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:46 AM
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Just reframe it. Is it really men dominating women's lives? If so hey do men suffer in even greater numbers in so many metrics? Perhaps it’s because it’s not men v women but rather elites vs everyone else but the elites have framed the narrative to make it men v women?
/r/MensRights13/08/23 10:48 PM
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Not just likely, virtually guaranteed.
/r/MensRights13/08/23 10:25 PM
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Boundaries are where behavior steps outside what is acceptable, whether it’s for yourself or a spouse, family member or friend. That doesn’t mean they have to change or care about your boundary. But the relationship certainly can hinge on staying inside those boundaries. Cheating is such a boundary. So would be financial irresponsibility. This is an example of another boundary. The wife can certainly disregard her husbands boundaries and make herself the ex if it bothers him enough. There’s noth…
/r/MensRights13/08/23 09:38 PM
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Every single thing that is pointed out as a toxic trait of masculinity has it's good side and generally a great explanation from our full history as a species as to why men tend to have that trait. Competitiveness - this has both good and bad sides. Good in that it helps men be motivated to achieve more, to sacrifice more, to push the boundaries of what is possible, whether we are talking a physical or mental or both situation, from sports to science to math to art. Competition moves the boundar…
/r/MensRights13/08/23 08:08 AM
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5000 people in a venue, on average a few more females than males. So what's the best strategy to serve all equally well? That women take longer than men is generally accepted by everyone. But why does women taking longer mean men should have fewer spaces? Make 'em all equally unisex, first come first served and everyone gets treated equally. 40 bathrooms, 20 for women, 20 unisex, means men now get on average less than 10, call it 9 equivalent. So 30-31 for women, 9-10 for men. Why is that equal …
/r/MensRights13/08/23 07:44 AM
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Next time do as Jack Nicholson and just turn in place hosing them down. Give them an evil grin, zip, wash and saunter out of there. If they complain simply smile and say, “It's a men's bathroom, you don't belong here.”
/r/MensRights13/08/23 07:37 AM
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MGTOW suffices. Jesus for those who feel the need to believe that stuff.
/r/MensRights13/08/23 07:33 AM
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Victim mentality.
/r/MensRights12/08/23 05:38 PM
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Yes they do. If they actually included the humanity and who was doing the forcing it would be "She forced him to have non consensual sex". But that sounds too much like rape and puts her in the power and decision position. She made him have sex despite lack of consent. Why is it a woman's consent is so critical but they can't even report it when a man's consent is ignored as a case of it being non consensual?
/r/MensRights10/08/23 05:00 PM
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"Forced to Penetrate" Have to love how that removes the agency and humanity from the situation. Why not instead call it "Had non consensual sex forced on him"? Because then it sounds just like what it is, rape. Forced to Penetrate.... just once? And who forced him, some mystical power, or was it the woman who forced him, over and over until she was happy?
/r/MensRights10/08/23 04:57 PM
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You need to update your understanding of history. Questions very much could wield power in many civilizations. A key point you seem to have missed, how is it possible for Queens to start more wars if they didn't wield the power? It is strong evidence that your assumptions are wrong. Men wielded power, sure, and somewhat more often than women. But it wasn't on the scale of 90/10 as you seem to think. If Queens lacked power as you say, how did they go to war and prosecute it? How did they exercise…
/r/MensRights10/08/23 02:55 PM
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One of the great philosophers once said, “Every great truth begins as blasphemy.” I think he was right.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 03:54 AM
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So she sexually objectified herself to further her career and blames it on men? Sorry Megan you have to objectify yourself before anyone else can.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 03:46 AM
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The sad thing is if the early feminists could have taken their analysis one step further they might have started something truly useful. Instead of “the patriarchy” (which I still haven’t seen a feminist actually demonstrate), they should have gone one step further and focused on the Elite vs everyone else. That's where the true effort to secure and keep power is at, in the body of the Elite. Not in men, in the Elite, the top 1% of rich and powerful.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 03:37 AM
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Yeah, but it's not as one sided as you seem to believe. There have been matriarchal societies before. And most Kings have had Queens, most Barons have had Baronesses. The power from the throne as often through her lineage as his. There have been several papers studying whether men or women have more often held power. You can look them up and read them for yourself. But don't carry on with the assumption that because a Kong existed it didn't mean the Queen lacked power. There are many examples of…
/r/MensRights10/08/23 03:35 AM
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If you study anthropology there's are reasons men and women are so different n terms of sharing emotions. And what each does with it when the other shares. As a simple starting place, consider hunter gatherer society. Generally men out hunting, alone or in small groups, having to keep quiet, alert, using hand signs to communicate more than words. Then when they came home their instinct is to provide and protect. They had family and tribe to look after, which also meant “be strong” for. Thus the …
/r/MensRights10/08/23 03:27 AM
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Feminists love being able to be simultaneously both strong/independent and weak/dependent. She's old enough to make adult decisions when it comes to her body and any pregnancy, sex, OF account behavior. But she's not old enough to be treated like an adult for her actions harming a man.
/r/MensRights09/08/23 04:14 PM
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As a white middle class man in his late 50s who was raised to be a gentleman, I remain such to the women in my family. I've learned not to even try helping other women. Equality is a bitch when it’s not in your favor, but that’s what you all want.
/r/MensRights09/08/23 05:36 AM
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“You wanted to be equal? A strong, independent woman? Then shut the hell up with the whining and work at solving your problems like men do. That's how you demonstrate strength and independence. Hard work until you achieve your goals, including becoming self reliant and protective.”
/r/MensRights09/08/23 05:19 AM
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And that justifies taking away the presumption of innocence and adding debtor's jail, how?
/r/MensRights09/08/23 05:12 AM
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I just throw it back in their face, “Okay, you don't want to hear my explanation. Fine. Then you womansplain exactly the issue we've been discussing and cover the points I was going to make.” If she says anything about womansplaining hit it back as her starting the gendered terminology and creating a hostile workplace.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 01:35 AM
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Please share a list of these supposed privileges.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 01:15 AM
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Feminism isn't a person or singular entity. Your arguments here sound inane because you keep trying to treat it like that. It's a sociopolitical movement, not an individual. Feminism is essentially the collection of what feminists say and do which sticks, either in public consciousness or in laws and regulations. Just like how our supposed democratic republic in the U.S. operates in ways which bear little resemblance to the dictionary definition of “Democratic republic”.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 01:11 AM
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No, what we’re saying is that male privilege doesn’t exist. Elite privilege certainly does but it’s often mislabeled as male privilege.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 12:56 AM
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I’ve lived with feminism since the 1960s. It’s not a warped view of what feminism has become. It is a warped view of what early feminist leaders said their goals were.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 04:36 AM
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Given that in 1970 only about 6% of homes had a credit card that was a problem almost quality shared by men and women and has nothing to do with women not being paid enough.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 07:46 AM
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I agree with the take that says you can't be objectified without doing it to yourself first. Seems to be true. Yes, weird.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 08:59 PM
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Because it's always men's fault. If a man cheats it's because he can't keep it zipped. If a woman cheats it's because he wasn't caring for her needs. If there's an abusive relationship, men are always seen as the aggressor even though statistically the odds are both are abusive equally to each other. But it's always men to blame.
/r/Divorce_Men04/08/23 08:14 PM
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It also seems to be true that generally women objectify themselves first, before anyone else does it. Which makes it interesting to claim to be a victim when it happens due to their own actions.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 07:08 PM
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Which tends to lead to vigilantism in the end.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 06:52 PM
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And yet they are still crying oppression and patriarchy.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 06:19 PM
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Or a feminine job, like teaching, nursing, and such.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:48 PM
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A few rules I've developed that might help you, especially with toxic people, even if they are family. Never invest in someone who doesn't reciprocate the investment. This means your MEAT, money, emotion, attention, and time. Invest only in equal amounts to what they invest in you. Focus on your needs and physical and mental health. This requires time working out, eating as well as you can, time in nature, working hard at goals and job. That is all critical until you've established yourself well…
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:50 PM
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That type of illustration does tend to change minds. I know in my martial arts training and practice over 40 years I was taught many ways to kill with various types of sticks from plain short sticks to staffs to a police style P41 night stick. Anyone who thinks sticks are non-lethal doesn't know how to fight with a stick.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 05:10 PM
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They also aren't familiar with history or history of weapons. Other than a rock, a stick is probably the oldest weapon around. It's been used in various forms for at least the last 30K years. Many people have been killed with nothing more than a stick. Hell, any competent martial art weapon program trains its adherents how to kill with a stick, often multiple types.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 04:18 PM
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No, it's not. At least not the current court. It's been fairly corrupt. Several of the justices wouldn't be sitting in any earlier court due to failing some critical ethics reviews.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 04:12 PM
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Simultaneously "strong and independent" and "weak and out of control".
/r/MensRights02/08/23 04:11 PM
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Given how many of those male children are raised in single mother homes, on average, feminist single mother homes, are they going to take responsibility for this misaligned socialization? I crack myself up….
/r/MensRights01/08/23 02:23 AM
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Their value as a person may increase, but their value as a mate does not due to the significant decrease is fertility. It’s been polled and tested so many times in so many ways there’s not much debate about what’s men want.
/r/MensRights01/08/23 01:31 AM
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Their sexual marketplace value absolutely does go down with age reaching a sharp decline about 30. This is primarily due to men seeing fertility as a big factor in attractiveness and most women over 30 will be in a geriatric pregnancy with increased risk for birth defects.
/r/MensRights01/08/23 01:30 AM
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You missed the context. It’s not that women need to be strong and independent. It’s that they claim that’s what they are yet they initiate the divorce most of the time yet they somehow also need permanent alimony. What other contract let’s you be thee one who breaks it and you get paid until you die for doing that?
/r/MensRights01/08/23 01:16 AM
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It’s a mandated cost imposed by the government that if you don’t pay you go to prison. That is a form of indentured slavery resulting in debtors prison. I agree it’s not owning a persons body. But it is financial slavery ending in prison if you don’t work and pay it off.
/r/MensRights01/08/23 01:11 AM
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Bullshit. Has happened any number of times. Men have also lost careers, their children and homes because of a woman lying her ass off.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:32 AM
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I'm stronger than most guys I know. If you were to hit me do you expect me to just take it? Or do you recognize that I hade a right to defend myself from attack even by a weaker man? If that’s the case, why is it different for a woman? It’s not. She’s an adult, right? Capable of moderating her emotions and controlling her actions. So if she hits me and I’ve not touched her to that point, she's starting a fight and deserves getting hit back.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:31 AM
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So what? If a smaller man hits a larger man we don’t expect the larger to just take it. We expect him not to hit. Same applies to a woman. Don’t start it unless you're willing to take the hits.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:28 AM
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Which is why the suit of the state, judge, and accuser needs to include that shit.
/r/MensRights29/07/23 10:49 PM
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This is the way. It works even if you're the only person in your home.
/r/MensRights28/07/23 08:08 PM
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Have to love how withdrawing consent when it's sex is considered an absolute but withdrawing consent on IVF is not.
/r/MensRights28/07/23 07:56 PM
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No idea. I give everyone an upvote unless they are really trolling.
/r/MensRights28/07/23 01:56 PM
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Not in the U.S. there was one, feminist group shut it down and the guy who ran it recently died.
/r/MensRights26/07/23 02:53 AM
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So the quote says “moving from an entirely male to an entirely female occupation…” which is where the confusion comes in. The study doesn’t show that say grade school teachers being all male and then more females taking over has resulted in a drop in pay. It says changing from a supposed male occupation yo a supposed female one results in loss of wages. Which is another way of saying what I said. If you have women who were in a male dominated field like engineering and they move yo a female domi…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 09:27 PM
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This speaks to part of what I referred to as the wage gap myth. Men tend to prefer jobs about things, and which more often are outside, arduous, or in some of the STEM fields. Women dominate in others, but the ones they chose of their own free will because it’s easier or more flexible or requires fewer hours aren’t a gender pay gap issue. Those reflect choices. Women becoming nurses and counselors rather than surgeons for example. Had nothing to do with gender inequality and everything to do wit…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 08:23 PM
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Can you demonstrate this? I agree women statistically don’t ask for raises as much, but they also don’t stay in the career as much. So as an average wouldn’t it somewhat cancel out?
/r/MensRights25/07/23 05:51 PM
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If you’re referring to the supposed wage gap it’s been shown many times to be false, a disparity that comes from how generic the stat, not compensating for different fields paying different amounts, the danger or physical effort involved, and how many hours, even ears worked.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 05:20 PM
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Yes, I agree. But is that a good thing for men to do? As a group men don’t get the social acceptance for our emotions, good or bad, that women do. Men do open up in safe spaces but right now they tend to be limited to beat hut friends or men only sharing groups. Perhaps instead of complaining that men need to open up, feminists need to consider that their behavior is part of why men don’t open up. If you look at male suicide the feminist taking point that “men should open up or seek therapy@ tur…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 05:06 PM
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Beyond rights there is also social support. For most major life altering decisions women have a social net to catch them if they make a choice with negative results. For pregnancy there’s multiple birth control, plan B, drop boxes for infants, abortion and adoption: men have condoms which can still break. For money problems there’s financial aid, WIC (women’s, infants and children, note the distinct lack for men), and such. For DV or homelessness there’s thousands of shelters, for men there are …
/r/MensRights25/07/23 05:01 PM
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They’re following what a lot of religious groups do, hence the fallacy No True Scotsman.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 04:52 PM
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Good on you for being able to reach a decision. I always hope it can be worked out, but if it can’t it’s best to put your kids needs first, yours second and hers behind work and immediate family. Once she's leaving all you can do is make it as peaceful and painless as possible. I'm not going to tell you not to feel sad, shame, or anything else you feel. But do let those feeling come. Alone or with your guy friends. Process them, workout, get outside, hobbies, and heal. You'll get there. Good luc…
/r/MensRights22/07/23 09:22 PM
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She may not realize it but she's thinking along the lines of "then let them eat cake" and not realizing what happened due to the ruling class having that attitude.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 06:57 PM
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Even if they aren't being played, let her go to law enforcement, report it and go through the process. No more accusation = guilt.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 06:29 PM
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Agreed. But why is it that people who took those steps 100 or even 60 years ago didn't make anything like the profit they do now, and they paid far more taxes as a percentage of it than they do now? Second, why is it other successful countries can have people doing the same thing while still paying more in corporate tax? There's a ton of subtle carve out just for that group to pay less tax than they have in the past. I'm suggesting we should eliminate those carve outs and go back to the ratio th…
/r/MensRights21/07/23 06:24 PM
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If it were me, I would give her shit about it like you used to do as kids. “Sis, I love you, and I want to hear about your life and be part of it, but only with respect on both sides. Complain all you want about specific guys you date. But when you start generalizing to all men and ratchet up the man hate it just sounds stupid. You're basically hating all men. It's hate speech. I don't want to hear it. I'll bet the men in your work don't want to hear it either but they may be too polite to say i…
/r/MensRights21/07/23 03:56 AM
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https://inequality.org/great-divide/a-perfect-storm-has-elon-musk-paying-11-billion-in-tax/ Touting this number is an easy claim. But look at why he paid that much that year (sales of stock paid at a 10% rate, if you had income of . Better yet, dig into the taxes he paid over the previous decade compared to his earnings. https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3894233-how-america-actually-taxes-the-affluent/ You also might want to consider beyond a single year for evaluation of what the 1% pay in re…
/r/MensRights21/07/23 03:42 AM
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All great points. And I¡m an older guy, long time married to a traditional conservative wife. In today's market I wouldn’t be dating, just getting fit, maximize my income, invest, and then move and work remote.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 03:11 AM
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Add in reduced corporate taxes, removal of most of the unions, and easier corporate bankruptcies. It’s all aimed at one thing, maximizing profit at the expense of the average worker, male or female.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 03:09 AM
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Does that top 10% number include the 1% wealthiest who don’t usually get paid much income but earn money other ways?
/r/MensRights20/07/23 06:01 PM
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I point out what they are really talking about is not a patriarchy (systematic oppression of women) but systemic oppression where those elite in power use that power to remain in power and get wealthier from the labor of everyone else. Not a gender issue, a power issue.
/r/MensRights20/07/23 05:41 PM
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If the democratic party would drop the gun control issue by flipping it more to the 'increasing healthcare, education and economic opportunity to reduce gun crime' it would solve some of their issues. Second, stop demonizing men, especially white or black men for different reasons. Third, let go the support for feminism, instead focus on equal opportunity regardless of race, religion, or gender. In other words, treat all people to ensure they have the opportunity for education and success.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 05:30 PM
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Look at her bio at the end of the article, she's a modern feminist.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 05:24 PM
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Read the author's bio at the bottom of the article. A feminist spending much of her time trying to promote what she calls gender equality. Take a grain of salt with that claim.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 05:24 PM
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There's a saying, "Women control access to sex, men control access to relationships." Seems true in general, but as u/BoomTheBear86 said, there's a ton of social pressure, familial pressure, and what not to coerce men into marriage. Which ultimately is a bad contract for men to get into at this stage.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 05:19 PM
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Before you get married, if you have assets worth protecting, talk to a trust attorney and have them setup a trust. Depending on the assets it could be more than one. Do the due diligence to learn what works best for you. For example in the U.S. some states are better than others with trusts protecting you by not having the asset considered personal property. And therefore accessible by an ex via divorce.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 05:13 PM
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Not the last 10-15 years. Mostly identity politics, especially if it's women in all the power slots, executive directors, directors, etc.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 03:44 PM
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Very little money? WNBA brings in 180-200 million and still runs at a loss. That "10 million" was actually 12 million reported from 2005. Today the number is 15-20 million. Or approximately 10% of their income. I think that's significant. Their being 'friends' with WNBA players has nothing to do with it. Are there any women's sports teams (or hell, any women's organized competitive anything) which subsidizes their male counterparts?
/r/MensRights19/07/23 03:42 PM
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The easiest way to tell if the woman you're talking to is a quality of woman is to simply let her talk. She'll out herself for what she is soon enough. Focus on what topics she hits and how she talks about them. For example, if her family gets little mention and when she does it's mostly complaints that's a potential warning. If her exes get the same or worse treatment, it's a red flag. The family one is because some families are shitty. But when both families and all her exes get painted ugly, …
/r/MensRights19/07/23 03:32 PM
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Pretty is with her costume on (makeup, outfit) and 'nice' is her acting to ensure you pay. She might also actually be a nice person but if she were truly interested in you she wouldn't be asking you to pay. So you decide which means more to her, you or the money.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 03:26 PM
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Those places where it's legally defined that only men can rape and where evidence isn't required to convict are truly problematic. Many other places still have problems but less so. >even if the court thing is anonymized, how do you prevent the accuser from making the public claim ? One of the provisions under U.S. law is that the accused is assumed to be innocent until proven guilty and that the accused deserves an unbiased jury which is difficult to achieve when the story has already socially …
/r/MensRights19/07/23 03:06 PM
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It’s worse than that and time to move into the acceptance phase and get your ducks in a row.
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/23 03:55 AM
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First, how about we go back to innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? Start there, because anything less and you're automatically predicting one side. Yes, it’s difficult to prove rape. I get that. So what? Why should our standard of evidence change just because it’s hard to prove? Shouldn’t it be hard to prove? Given that men’s lives (should be rapists lives but until both sexes are treated equally under the law, it’s men's lives) get destroyed under a rape claim. Even before i…
/r/MensRights18/07/23 03:28 AM
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Yes, it's difficult to prove guilt because it should be. The problem is we know women have had voluntary sex and regretted it afterwards and claimed rape. We know women have claimed rape when they were the ones doing the instigating and only days later regretted it. We've gone too far in the "assume she's telling the truth and he must therefore be guilty". Yes, rape is hard to prove. Should it be easy? Right now, no proof at all is required to destroy someone's life. Even the innocent suffer and…
/r/MensRights14/07/23 08:32 PM
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So the question I think you should consider, "Is it just that an innocent man could lose his career and contracts worth multiple millions of dollars before he's been shown to be guilty?" >Only real solution would be a gag order on there types of cases where everything is kept confidential between parties and those present. Which I think goes hand in hand with the innocent until proven guilty approach. >The rest is he said she said Which is why the public accusation with no consequences is danger…
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:36 PM
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I don't. Never claimed he was. But did you notice how they claim, he suffers consequences even before his guilt is established? Then when his guilt couldn't be established (even if he is innocent) there's no restitution of his job or his contracts. There's no punishment if he is innocent for the women lying. I don't assume innocence, but I think a claim isn't enough to get these types of consequences when there's no punishment for lying. That makes it way too easy to destroy a man at no cost. Ou…
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:28 PM
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Sure, I'm not claiming he's innocent. But right now, if he's innocent there's nothing done to them for lying and nothing done to make restoration. If he's guilty and it just wasn't able to be demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt, maybe those consequences are earned. But the issue to me is that the consequences come at the claim, rather than a proving guilt. Which to my mind means we need some harsh punishments if it can be proved that the rape claim was a lie. Right now there's nothing.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:24 PM
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So actions shouldn't have consequences? There's a reason defamation exists and can be used to sue. There are real world consequences to claiming someone did something damaging to you. And there are plenty of cases where women have admitted doing it just to hurt someone who rejected them, or because they knew they could get a lot of money out of it. He may not be innocent. But they were unable to establish his guilt. >sue for damage after if he can prove they were lying Other men have sued, even …
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:22 PM
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Correct from the strictly legal perspective. But their accusations still had real world costs. So from that perspective, is anything going to be done to restore the damage? Not bloody likely.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 05:18 PM
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Not just this but they refuse to look at the studies supporting the opposite of what they claim, then the mods delete the post so it's no longer uncomfortable for them.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 04:50 PM
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We've had a Fathers & Sons trip in my family annually every spring for longer than I've been alive (57 years). My father and a few of his brothers set out the principles: Men only Camping, fishing, hunting, hiking, adventure sports We've had cousins want to bring girlfriends, wives, daughters. All have been told it's a men only trip. Women can organize one if they want one. They never do, instead meeting and enjoying things like going to a play or concert while the F&S trip is on. Just stand fir…
/r/MensRights14/07/23 04:26 PM
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It's not about justifying not caring. It's not caring because I recognize the flaw in their narrative due to the selection bias they've used when creating their narrative. Which means their conclusion is wrong. So why care too much about it? >Is it too simple to say that you're angry Both too simple and wrong. I'm not angry, I'm tired of an incorrect, or at least heavily biased narrative. And the appeal that I should offer my support. I am happy to support equal rights and equal opportunities. W…
/r/MensRights12/07/23 07:27 PM
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Mine too. Been around since 1966, have seen multiple waves of feminism. It's gotten much worse. To the point I'm looking at the next 20 years and wondering which is coming first, the wealthy vs everyone else or the gender fight. Either way I suspect it's going to be abrupt, violent, and shocking. Get enough people disenfranchised and feeling brutalized enough and it gets bloody fast.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 05:37 PM
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Shift from viewing yourself as the provider and protector so "you must sacrifice your goals, dreams and happiness" mind set to one where your goals and dreams and happiness are prominent, then you choose who to provide and protect (yourself first).
/r/MensRights12/07/23 05:28 PM
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Odd too how men are forced to pay as if they are fathers (and generally husbands too) while often simultaneously stopped from actually being fathers (and not being husbands). So twisted.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 04:52 PM
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OP, don't take any of it to heart. It's just emotive noise intended to get you feeling bad. It's S.I.G.N language (shame, insult, guilt, and the need to be right) intended to hurt your feelings and make you back off. Its what happens when someone knows their argument is weak. They shift from arguing the point to attacking the person. Soon as you notice that start thinking to yourself, "I've won, time to let them show the world their true nature." Take none of it to heart. There's a great quote b…
/r/MensRights12/07/23 04:48 PM
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Love where Bill shows that when she resorts to calling you names and bringing up shit you're insecure about, you've won. Take a knee. It's true not just in man and woman discussions, almost anywhere. When they shift from debating the point to attacking your character, you've won and need to let them show their who they really are.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 04:44 PM
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Don't you love how they disguise misandry indoctrination under the label "Women's Studies"? I was forced to take this class clear back in the early 1990s. The teacher hated men, especially white conservative looking men. To the point where my string of A's for papers abruptly became a string of D- (because I was white, married, conservative looking) which the Dean later corrected and gave her a letter or reprimand. Today I doubt that correction would happen. Forced to take a class with a teacher…
/r/MensRights12/07/23 03:45 PM
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Feminists seem to forget the end result if you push such a power move too far. It turns violent, fast. Usually with brutal suppression of the losing side. Which leads to significantly increased suffering no matter which side wins.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 03:41 PM
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I was required to take a Women's Studies course back in the early 1990s. Same deal then, teacher hated men, especially white men who were conservative. Makes me wonder what she was doing teaching at the University of Utah. It was bad enough, even then, being white male who she thought was conservative based on my appearance, that I had to take my final essay to the Dean of the Department to get my grades corrected to what I earned rather than all she was willing to grant me.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 03:37 PM
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I don't care as much as they wish because I've learned that their selection bias52752 isn't as balanced as it should be when looking historically. They tend to focus on women's suffering, then look at the top 1% overachievers in men, the wealthy and powerful and compare. In other words, it's somewhat exaggerated outrage. Like blaming all white men for blacks having been slaves in the U.S. It completely ignores the reality that blacks enslaving blacks was happening much earlier, and was how those…
/r/MensRights12/07/23 03:22 PM
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Heard of, sure. I've heard that claim. Please share where any actually fought for sex-positive outcomes. I'm an old man whose seen feminism through multiple stages. Forgive me for being highly skeptical but I've seen enough bullshit promoted by feminists (I mean studies that are highly flawed, see the Duluth model for one) to question their claims.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 08:45 PM
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For most of them I doubt it's an active hatred. But the effect isn't that far off for many. I've lived through almost 60 years of feminism so I've seen it change. These last 30 years it's become pretty anti-male rather than gender equality.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 08:39 PM
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If you disagree you could certainly share where leading feminists are for sex positive outcomes.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 08:37 PM
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I know much of what you said but disagree on several important points. And didn't see any other examples of systemic patriarchy than voting (which doesn't really support your argument as much as you may think it does). >Saying we live in a patriarchal society But it is saying the society systematically benefits men. I'm asking for evidence of that. Because I'm not seeing it in what I know of history. It's not just that 'not all men are privileged equally' but rather that the 'wealthy ruling clas…
/r/MensRights07/07/23 08:28 PM
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You can be accused of weaponized incompetence while understanding exactly what it is, and that what you're being accused of isn't that. Doesn't mean he's not being accused of it. Just means she's also applying the wrong label.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 07:59 PM
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What patriarchy? This is biggest issue. We're told there's this systematic privilege for men that's existed and been promoted for centuries. Yet if we look at the societies, often it wasn't men, it was rulers. That most of the rulers were men doesn't mean their privilege extended to all men, or even most men. Can you give examples?
/r/MensRights07/07/23 07:42 PM
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I think there was more male privilege in the past Can you give examples where it was "male privilege" and not instead "wealthy privilege"? I think many people only have vague ideas of what life was like 300, 500, 1,000 years ago and for some reason lump the privileges of the tiny fraction of the population called "the ruling class" as somehow being "all men" rather than a tiny fraction of men at the time.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 07:40 PM
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Exactly. It's not as if the children couldn't live with their father if that was an issue. Her lifestyle expectations don't matter. I think you would have a hard time arguing objectively that a middle class lifestyle would be detrimental to the children compared to a luxury lifestyle.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 06:38 PM
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The kids could still have that lifestyle, just live with Dad. She doesn't deserve or need it.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 06:36 PM
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give them the life they are accustomed to Why should that ever be the consideration? There are tons of other life changing events which would make this impossible to, yet the courts don't jump in to sort it out then. Think if he made a huge failure of an investment, or got crippled on a set. Same issue, but their lifestyle would change due to his difference in earning. So why is this the standard rather than just enough to ensure the kids live in a safe, healthy environment with enough food, hea…
/r/MensRights07/07/23 06:35 PM
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>even more unhinged than the current system No, it really isn't. Child support is supposed to be sufficient to ensure the child has a safe, healthy environment. Not to live a rich lifestyle. Lose the genders of the spouses that way you're not stuck in biased thought. Doesn't matter if its the woman or the man (or use a gay couple where gender doesn't play a role) is the wealthy one. First question, why should the state force the wealthy parent to continue funding a particular wealthy lifestyle? …
/r/MensRights07/07/23 06:31 PM
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I think the argument should be made. And include the idea that the wealthier parent should be able to decide IF they want to fund their children to continue to go to those private schools. If so, they could pay the school direct. No need for spouse to be involved in that.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 06:24 PM
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Agreed, but it shouldn't be any more common than SAHM Mom's are. And then, only until she can get a job that let's her survive.
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/23 06:08 PM
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Agree with you it doesn't take 30 years to raise kids. We agreed to have my wife be SAHM (after two years of me being college student with primary care role for our two kids). She was able to go back to part time once the youngest was in Elementary school and full time once he hit Junior High. Took about 14 years for 4 kids averaging 1.5 years apart where she was full time SAHM.
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/23 06:07 PM
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Same with my family. Father-son's trips have been to places to 4x4, fish, scuba dive, climb, hike, hunt and more. As yours, going on 60+ years, no women, for 12 and up boys and men. We've had guests and neighbors, always men.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 09:11 PM
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Statistics disprove this claim. Many dating apps have exposed their group data which shows that men find at least 50% of women attractive, and it's across the board, not just barbie doll types. Women on the other hand only found 5-15% of men attractive and they all shared similar attributes physically, over 6', fit, good looking. Another source that disproves this is women's fashion models, porn, and more.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 08:51 PM
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Let's get rid of this thought stopping claim. It's not only not true, it wasn't true when it was the original "A man never hits a lady" version either. We should, as a society, be seeking concepts which help limit the amount of mental, emotional, and physical abuse going on. Not just trying to wall off one gender as if it's never part of the problem (which stats show is roughly 50% of the time). How about instead, "Abuse is never acceptable in a relationship."
/r/MensRights27/06/23 10:18 PM
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What do you think the ratio of men hitting women without any accountability is to women hitting men without any accountability? I see a lot more women hitting men than the reverse. I'm sure the scales balance to some extent behind closed doors but most domestic violence data shows that men and women are equally likely to abuse their partner. And that a significant portion of DV is back and forth between partners. Also that lesbian couples have even worse rates than straight couples but gay coupl…
/r/MensRights27/06/23 10:12 PM
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Whenever someone blames "the patriarchy" or "male privilege" I know they have accepted feminist narrative without some critical thought.
/r/MensRights27/06/23 08:34 PM
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My number one recommendation is, avoid social media sites where denigrating men is popular. Second would be to start demanding that laws change to equally apply to men and women. Take a look at family law, the woman is almost always given benefits the man supply, not the other way around, even if he's the better parent. Domestic violence laws, hell criminal laws, almost always favor women. How many articles do we see where a woman teacher rapes her student but it gets reported as "having an illi…
/r/MensRights27/06/23 08:30 PM
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There are dating stats that suggest 80% of women are sleeping with 20% of men in the dating ages. If that's the case then it supports those numbers. Women would rather a "successful" man they share than one the consider unsuccessful to be theirs alone apparently.
/r/MensRights27/06/23 08:22 PM
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But it's to benefit rich men & their families. Then shouldn't it be labelled as such, rather than tied to gender? I agree that what most feminists mean by "the patriarchy" is really just the wealthy protecting their own interests which have changed over time. But it's not the wealthy who have been harmed and disadvantaged by feminism over the past 50 years, it's more the non wealthy men and boys. Shows up in many statistics, from suicide rates to educational rates to marital rates. And more.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 05:54 PM
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It may not work directly. Like religion, feminism is often a core value and only becomes stronger when they feel they are being attacked. What can work is demonstrating hypocrisy via questions and humor (sometimes mockery). It's slow and not as effective because it has to 'sneak in' so to speak and avoid the mental defenses.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 05:50 PM
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For all the men and young men out there who feel unappreciated on a day meant to celebrate them, remember that you positively affect the lives of those around you. A man’s strength is as much measured by the burdens he bears and the choices he makes to better the world than in the strength of his arms. In the end being a man of character, caring for your family and loved ones and working for tomorrow are essential for us. Keep strong, brothers.
/r/MensRights18/06/23 08:58 PM
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Please list out what is the patriarchy, but be specific. I'm not asking for a dictionary definition, but real world examples. For example, what rights do western women lack that men have?
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/23 04:15 AM
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Victimhood has high capital value.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 07:22 PM
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>Violence isn't necessary. Men simply engaging in passive resistance en masse would do the trick. I'm aware and agree. The problem is I'm mature enough to see it. But young men (18-28) aren't necessarily so. They are the group most likely to be members of violent protests. Because they have youth, vitality, too much aggression and not enough maturity. I'm not worried about violence being a necessity, rather the push becoming so much young men decide they've had enough and react to it violently, …
/r/MensRights14/06/23 04:43 PM
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It's playing the victim in a women's competition forum.
/r/MensRights14/06/23 04:26 PM
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99.9% of women on dating apps are completely normal From a risk perspective this has nothing to do with the threat analysis. So called 'normal' doesn't mean they can't ruin a man's life easily with legal support already in place.
/r/MensRights14/06/23 04:24 PM
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MGTOW is the non violent protest. If the anti-male social hate goes too far is anyone leading the groups pushing that agenda prepared for the violent protest that will come from it?
/r/MensRights14/06/23 04:22 PM
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die before receiving a lifesaving abortion You do realize that most men supported women having abortions, right? Don't look at men for that loss of right but to evangelicals who are not just men. I think abortions should be a right. Most men seem to agree. So this doesn't get you anywhere. I'm just as pissed RvW was killed. >You get some skin snipped which, again I don’t believe in but it barely affects you Don't do that. Don't downplay an infant mutilation. That a cut man doesn't truly know wha…
/r/MensRights14/06/23 04:02 PM
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You've been told wrong. Look it up. The suggestion to circumcise due to hygiene issues only really applies in areas where cleanliness is very difficult to achieve. Which means there's almost no where on earth where it's needed or has any benefit medically. Go read up on the AMA's statement on circumcision. They basically call it a pointless mutilation with potentially harmful effects (when things go wrong).
/r/MensRights14/06/23 03:47 PM
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Had a women's studies professor pull this crap all semester during my college days (early 90s). I was white, looked conservative (wasn't really), married at what she considered a young age (22, and yes, it was too young), and I was male. All negatives to her world view, we were shared that on day one, warned that she didn't take it easy on white men (in a required class). She graded me shitty, like C minus. I accepted it for the first two assignments. Then took it to department dean and asked if…
/r/MensRights14/06/23 03:31 PM
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Just be strong men. Stoicism is a good approach.
/r/MensRights13/06/23 03:59 AM
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wars have always been started by men For those who might think this troll has a point, here's a list to consider, most of which argue that Queens get into more wars than Kings. https://www.google.com/search?q=did+queens+start+more+wars&client=safari&hl=en-us&ei=geCHZJWpLNHEkPIP4N6w8AM&oq=do+queens+start%C2%A0&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQARgAMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46FQgAEAMQjwEQ6gIQtAIQjAMQ5QIYAToVCC4QAxCPARDqAhC0Ah…
/r/MensRights13/06/23 03:59 AM
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Using the label “incel” is a fairly strong indication of feminist toxicity. One of the SIGN language options, shaming men.
/r/MensRights13/06/23 03:50 AM
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True, good catch.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 06:31 PM
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Assumptions are usually the first fuck up. They should be trained to control first the situation, second deescalate if needed, third secure any weapons, forth secure anyone who is wielding a weapon and then objectively assessing the situation before deciding on an outcome. They should also know defenders don’t typically run after their attackers. And that woman can be just as violent and dangerous as men. Her reaction exhibits little awareness of any of this.
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:52 PM
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Her decision-making included being sexist and profiling, assuming a woman is not a threat, not securing the person with the weapon, and not properly assessing the situation before making a judgment. If I were the judge I would be asking her supervisor what retraining programs she can attend.
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:49 PM
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Mine as well for those who need an ear. I'm older so may have a different take on life.
/r/MensRights09/06/23 04:48 PM
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I don't bring that up because its not as meaningful as that the infrastructure we live on was and still is, built and maintained almost entirely by men. Women have been able to be in these types of jobs for a long time and choose not to be. Seems a good enough point.
/r/MensRights09/06/23 04:45 PM
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Either that or they are idealists who have no awareness of the actual history of feminism or it's impact in society, politics, or law. Either way there's no point working with them.
/r/MensRights09/06/23 04:37 PM
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I've heard it framed that men have more range in terms of things like wealth (poverty), education, and work success while women tend to group more tightly together due to self selection, group and social supports.
/r/MensRights09/06/23 04:18 PM
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I really do like women, but I’m old enough to have been around through multiple phases of feminism. The last ten years it’s gotten ugly. Have you ever heard of Experiment 25 or Mouse Utopia? They tested this idea many times with the same result. Put a group of mice (proper breeding population) into a place with no predators and an abundance of food and water. As you might expect they breed. But unlike predictions by Malthus they didn’t breed to starvation then die. Instead the females became mor…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 02:36 AM
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The problem is that many people, especially as they age, are tired or stressed, or have inadequate ability to read social queues, will 'stare' without intending anything. In some cases, what they are staring at isn't even what's at the top of their mind. Their eyes just halt while their brain processes something else. > Imagine if you are being stared at by another man. I might do those things, but honestly I probably wouldn't because I recognize that people 'space out' (which seems like staring…
/r/MensRights07/06/23 05:54 PM
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In simple form, women make choices on jobs: Not laborious Not unsafe In Comfortable environment (not outside) Respectable (makes 'em look good, not trash collector, sewer maintenance) Focus on their preferred skills (tend to be softer people focused) Men make choices: Do what pays most Do what I like doing (work with hands, work on problems) Do it where it's at (inside, outside, underground, at sea, in space) Get paid more so work hard and ask for more money
/r/MensRights07/06/23 05:07 PM
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Let's also at least credit men with the desire to protect and provide for their families. And that drive having resulted in a push for a softer, safer, more egalitarian society. Feminists can only say they 'need no man' in a world created by men whose infrastructure largely survives on men's labors. If men quite for one week they would get a sharp lesson in reality. If they thought COVID was bad, imagine if no trash moved, no food was delivered, electricity and water and gas all shut off because…
/r/MensRights07/06/23 04:59 PM
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If things are rocky where do you want it to end? If you stay together then you need to fix this but she has to be willing. Otherwise it's only going to get worse. You've already been a floor mat so she's used to walking all over you. No offense intended, just need you to see clearly that you've let her walk all over what should have been firm and important boundaries (like you both deciding summer events, that children are both yours equally, and so on). If on the other hand you don't think it's…
/r/MensRights07/06/23 04:55 PM
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Rebut with, "Your insecurities are caused by the social media you consume."
/r/MensRights07/06/23 04:45 PM
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It seems a conditioned mindset in young feminists that I've noticed. They've been taught to treat every opportunity as one to be the victim. They call themselves strong an independent then complain how it's men's fault for everything. Any media pointing out a group is being harmed feminists always try to spin it so 'women most affected'.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 03:21 PM
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I think that's the minimum approach. Keep in mind that many courts have the idea of punitive damages. So they can lose and have to pay the damages to a victim which is their direct costs and pain recovered by whatever formula they use. They tack on punitive as a way to punish the group causing the issue so they avoid it (and as a warning to others) in the future. Same thing here. Rape is terrible, proven should carry a similar punishment. But false accusation is just as terrible and much easier …
/r/MensRights07/06/23 02:58 PM
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Check out marinere profile. Troll.
/r/MensRights07/06/23 04:50 AM
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It actually is VERY needed because socially not many people care about men’s issues. Certainly not at the government level where such systemic problems can best be identified and addressed. Don’t pull the “all lives matter” type of equivocation. Society is aware suicide is bad. This is pointing out that media and even government sources regularly focus much more attention on female attention seeking and calling it an attempt, than men attempting to end their lives and often succeeding. Some try …
/r/MensRights07/06/23 03:56 AM
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It actually is VERY needed because socially not many people care about men’s issues. Certainly not at the government level where such systemic problems can best be identified and addressed. Don’t pull the “all lives matter” type of equivocation. Society is aware suicide is bad. This is pointing out that media and even government sources regularly focus much more attention on female attention seeking and calling it an attempt, than men attempting to end their lives and often succeeding. Some try …
/r/MensRights07/06/23 03:56 AM
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I can't understand why people would be so pissed off that you're said screw it I'm doing my own thing My post was in response to this comment because this comment suggests you don't already agree or even understand. Maybe I misunderstood what you're saying here?
/r/MensRights30/05/23 10:10 PM
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So your experience is indicative of the objective reality for certain? I suggest you look for objective ways to determine this. It's not hard, there are several approaches you can take, and a lot of ways to get raw data to look at.
/r/MensRights30/05/23 10:08 PM
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You've had a paternity test to establish it actually is your kid?
/r/Divorce_Men30/05/23 09:59 PM
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It's generally not a matter of being pissed off, but more often having been hurt and seen how domestic laws, family laws and divorce laws treat men so unfairly, OR its a logical conclusion based on learning these issues. Take an example of a man married 10 years, 3 kids, stay at home wife has several lovers, an only fans porn site and offers sex to highest bidder, addicted to drugs and sex and has been risking given him an STD since they got married. He seeks divorce and due to her calling cops …
/r/MensRights30/05/23 09:54 PM
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Gotta read deeper than that, my friend. I went there once expecting just what the sub says it's about. Didn't take long to learn its essentially a misandrist confirmation chamber. I saw a post where a woman was complaining because she had cheated on her husband. She was getting 'you go girl' and 'get what you need' comments from most, and some 'her husband must suck in bed' or 'he's not meeting her needs'. Saw several people get banned for pointing out that cheating is always wrong in a monogamo…
/r/MensRights30/05/23 09:42 PM
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Have you ever seen the Chris Rock sketch where he points out that only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally? It's a rather pointed bit of humor showing exactly the difference in nature. Here's two questions he asks: Q: Gentleman, when you meet a new girl, what is the first thing your friends ask about her? A: What does she look like. Q: Ladies, when you meet a new guy, what do your friends ask? A: What does he do? He points out that it's because men are expected to provide (materia…
/r/MensRights30/05/23 09:34 PM
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I've never really seen any of them being materialistic or care too much about mone Really? Ask them about requirements for a man. Do they have a height requirement? An earnings requirement? A type of job requirement? Would they be happy with a man who is 5'9" tall, makes 70-130k, who works in sanitation engineering but is a good solid man. Ask them about if they think men should pay on the first date or if they feel it should be split 50-50. I suspect you just haven't noticed how materialistic w…
/r/MensRights30/05/23 09:30 PM
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I agree with what you said. I would add that why it happens is that narcissists get triggered when ignored, especially when their ability to control is removed (as it is with MGTOW).
/r/MensRights30/05/23 09:23 PM
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>Femenism by defenition is being against womens oppression That is not the definition generally claimed by feminists. Usually its, "feminism is about all genders having equal rights and opportunities. It's about respecting diverse women's experiences, identities, knowledge and strengths, and striving to empower all women to realize their full rights." In other words, its supposed to be about equality of the sexes. It isn't, it's actually far more about supporting women in all cases and often at …
/r/MensRights30/05/23 04:34 PM
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>So there is a lot of takes out there that can be miscontruded and im here to abolish any confusion. Let's start here. Why are you assuming things are being misconstrued rather than pointing out actual issues with modern feminism? I'm old enough to have lived through several 'waves' of feminism (born mid 60s). So let's talk the biggest issues with current feminism so you can show where anything is being misconstrued. Feminism was supposed to be about equality. Take some examples that demonstrate…
/r/MensRights30/05/23 04:23 PM
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It's been tried and was taken down quickly for being misogynistic.
/r/MensRights30/05/23 03:15 PM
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Hence the mandatory testing at birth. Solve those multiple problems across the board for all births.
/r/MensRights30/05/23 02:21 PM
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Again, it's often a case of her having cheated after the marriage and not being willing to admit to it. After the baby is born he starts to get suspicious because something doesn't add up. Numbers show that in that situation, nearly 1 in 3 are not the father. Tests should be mandatory for several reasons. To enable parents to know if there is any genetic issue that may present itself later. To enable the child to know what their genetic ancestry is To ensure paternity. There are plenty of jurisd…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 09:24 PM
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Paternity tests should be required. Not just to establish paternity but also to ensure that the DNA and ancestry of the child is known. This is important for medical reasons even if Mom cheated.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 08:38 PM
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That you trust her when you marry doesn't have anything to do with whether she's remained trustworthy. She KNOWs who the mother is, why should he have to guess? And be defrauded?
/r/MensRights17/05/23 08:37 PM
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>I don't even want the sex anymore, i just want my peace. Another MGTOWer is born.
/r/Divorce_Men09/05/23 09:09 PM
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Most of the wave 1 and 2 feminists are now old, retired, dead, or close to it, and many want nothing to do with modern feminism because it is exactly as described... now. In the 50s-80s maybe it was a movement striving for equality, today it's a movement striving for not only superiority but vilification of men.
/r/MensRights09/05/23 09:04 PM
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I was born the year before and consider Stage 3 feminism to have kicked off in 1967. So my entire life I've seen feminism shift from stage 2 to stage 3 where the rhetoric went from "just this next inequality" to "men are trash and we need more".
/r/MensRights08/05/23 09:46 PM
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Continue to work on yourself. Be your best self physically, mentally, emotionally. Succeed at work. All of those are good ways to keep her interested because you're getting better.
/r/MensRights05/05/23 05:31 PM
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Love the "my body, my choice" thing that still misses the key part of that, "my responsibility".
/r/MensRights05/05/23 05:13 PM
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Isn't it oppression to have all the educational supports like grants and quotas aimed at women and none at men? Or is it only oppression if women perceive it as such?
/r/MensRights05/05/23 05:07 PM
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It's a specific form of cognitive dissonance, which is why they adopted the term 'hamster'. "There are five primary types of cognitive dissonance: post-decisional dissonance, dissonance from wanting something we can't have, dissonance due to inconsistency between attitude and behavior, dissonance due to inadequate justification, and dissonance due to inconsistency between commitment and information." https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hvcc-psychology-1/chapter/cognitive-dissonance/#:\~:text=…
/r/MensRights05/05/23 05:03 PM
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That always confuses me. She's 22 with seven years of dating experience, four of it as an adult. She is able and mature enough to consent. He's older by 7-20 years, similar dating experience, is able and mature enough to consent. Where's the issue? If they bring up grooming I have to ask, who is more the groomer, the older man looking for a younger woman who finds a younger woman looking for an older man and both are adults capable of consenting. Or that most women are raised in single mother ho…
/r/MensRights05/05/23 04:54 PM
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Call 'em parasites. It's the best description.
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/23 06:17 PM
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I'm a GenXer whose been married 35+ years. If I were a young man now, I wouldn't even consider marriage. My marriage has been hard work but my wife is a very old fashioned and traditional woman. She was a virgin on her wedding night and her strongest desire was to be a Mother and homemaker. I don't see many of those types of women today. Blaming porn and video games isn't blaming the right thing, it's blaming the second option for the problems of the first.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 04:29 PM
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"States that still have common law marriages are Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Utah and the District of Columbia. However, there are nuances for many of the states."
/r/MensRights04/05/23 04:18 PM
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Being cynical I'm guessing it's because so many government officials know if they allowed it they would have a huge increase in the number of women seeking government assistance. But I don't know so take it with a huge grain of salt.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 04:16 PM
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I haven't read either one. I wasn't the one suggesting these as reading. Just giving you the synopsis you asked for.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 07:17 PM
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When people rest the argument on "but men are stronger" I have to ask if they find it acceptable for a smaller man to hit a larger, or a younger sibling to hit an older. If not, then it shouldn't when a woman hits a man.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/05/23 07:01 PM
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Record 1 hour of television in prime time from 5 different channels. Then mark up a chart with the show content vs ads in terms of men are stupid women are wonderful. See how it plays out. It's ugly from what I've seen.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 04:29 PM
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Why are you focused on conviction rates rather than convictions of those proven guilty? All 'conviction rate' means is what ratio of cases end in a conviction, not how many cases end in the guilty being convicted. Which is especially problematic when little evidence is required for a conviction.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 04:18 PM
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Talk to a divorce attorney before you respond. Her arguments may not have any real teeth. Never let your opponent choose your strategy, even if she's still your wife.
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/23 04:01 PM
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Funny how men will date across and down and work all their lives and support their less educated wife who stays at home being wife and homemaker and both can be happy. But if the woman has to support the man he isn't worth it.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:30 PM
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War Against Boys "In a newly updated and revised version of “The War Against Boys,” Christina Hoff Sommers takes a fresh look at the plight of boys in America. She offers concrete proof that America’s culture is rigged against boys, demonstrating that boys have fallen behind girls in nearly every academic and social measure, and the gap is widening, resulting in staggering social and economic costs. Sommers delves into, among other topics, how the war against boys is harming America’s economic f…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:25 PM
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I'm not OP but can suggest a few. Rates of suicide and homelessness, paternity fraud, child custody and child support (especially those jurisdictions with presumption of paternity laws).
/r/MensRights02/05/23 07:02 PM
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Remind yourself you have a spine and no one gets to dictate what you want out of a relationship. Then do yourself a favor and don't share your preferences, just use them to exclude women who don't meet them. If any challenge you, just say you have 'standards' too.
/r/MensRights09/04/23 08:11 PM
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It's called a perpetual victim mindset. Everything is viewed as if men are the problem and women the victims no matter the situation. Allows for some amazing goal shifting in real time.
/r/MensRights09/04/23 08:00 PM
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Look at the sizes of the voting base, who spends money, and who educated the children. Those are reasons why so much catering to women. But it's short-sighted as it's mostly men who do the things which keep civilization going. And ultimately if you short-change and mistreat those who keep the infrastructure going, they'll stop doing it, which will lead to collapse if sustained long enough. I hope they are not stupid enough to think a collapsed civilization will benefit women.
/r/MensRights08/04/23 06:08 PM
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Just remind her, "If it was a monogamous relationship that means no sex with anyone other than a spouse. Gender doesn't change that. If it did, hubby could have sex with another man and it's not cheating, right?"
/r/MensRights28/03/23 11:11 PM
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She's show you her true nature and how little regard she has for your physical and mental health. I agree with u/Int-Merc805, get your ducks in a row and let her go back to the streets. It's where she prefers to be.
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/23 07:31 PM
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The harsh reality is you need a divorce attorney now. Focus yourself. You're now in enemy territory, she's already cheating on you which means she's already decided what you think doesn't matter enough, and she's willing to risk your health, sanity and safety for whatever he's giving her (think diseases, fights, etc. she's willing to risk them all harming you for her pleasure). So talk to a divorce attorney now and start protecting your assets in any way legal. It's going to suck. I've helped se…
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/23 07:30 PM
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Imagine how much more people would question if the headlines and story had to be gender neutral. "A 32 year old teacher sex four times in the back seat of a car with their student who was suffering from the trauma of a friend's suicide." Would anyone think it was just to simply let the teacher go?
/r/MensRights24/03/23 03:26 PM
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If he's too young to give consent legally in that place then it's statutory rape. He was a month shy of the minimum age of consent. Think about if a man did it, would he be granted such leniency, or would he be labelled "a predator who took advantage of an emotionally distraught underage girl and raped her without her consent"? Did the way it's framed change how you feel about it?
/r/MensRights24/03/23 03:21 PM
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So you don’t want any police, fire, military to do their jobs? The suggestion was cutting men off from sex, great, do it and see which gender suffers worse.
/r/MensRights22/03/23 03:47 AM
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Great. Go on a sex strike. When your men then stop all provisioning and protecting while it's on, what then?
/r/MensRights20/03/23 01:32 AM
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>older more mature person specifically targeting a much younger inexperienced person Now try stating that without the inflammatory language which very much influences your thinking about it. It's only 'targeting' if there is a specific intent to control. You assume that, but can you demonstrate your assumption is correct? Isn't it a little presumptuous to assume all the older members of such couples 'targeted' the younger. And even more so not to consider that some of the younger might also be p…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 09:54 PM
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Just tell her next time when you don't try to walk her to the car, "I thought about what you said about walking you to the car being misogynistic. I wouldn't want to be misogynistic so I won't do that anymore. It's weird because I always saw it as a good trait of masculinity to protect those we care about, but apparently it's misogynistic. I walk myself to my car alone all the time with no one protecting me so I guess that makes sense."
/r/MensRights17/03/23 03:59 PM
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My response, "So what's the reason the women in those relationship want men so old? Are they being creepy as well? You've assumed older men want young women so they can treat them poorly. Now explain the other side of it since there are two adults making this relationship. Are you saying the young women want poor treatment? Or is it perhaps they see a man who is successful, has more resources, and can take care of her better? Also how have you rejected all the other possible explanations, such a…
/r/MensRights17/03/23 02:39 PM
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Now flip those age ranges around. If it's creepy for a 30+ male to find women from 18-20 the most attractive then what do we call it when 18-20 year old women find 30+ year old men the most attractive? Because the numbers do support that idea. Is it also creepy?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 02:33 PM
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Some of the most damage is done by simps, male feminists and 'white knights'.
/r/MensRights17/03/23 02:31 PM
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Stay where you are. Change how you see yourself fitting into that place. That's ultimately the key to managing any hurdle, change yourself to be a better man, with a better outlook, better goals, more time spent caring for your physical and mental health, expanding your knowledge and skills. Put your time and effort into being your best version of yourself. I wouldn't even date for a while. Just focus on that until you're modestly happy on your own.
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/23 02:07 PM
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strong, independent woman?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 03:17 AM
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But if you mention an unhealthy weight for a woman you're a misogynist.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/03/23 04:32 PM
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And often themselves too.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/03/23 04:29 PM
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changed meaning not make it hateful anymore? Flip the gender or flip the races. Does it still sound fine? That's the way to judge it. Get those using it to do the same thing.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/03/23 04:27 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Divorce_Men/comments/11qmtps/comment/jc4hxq7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 >It’s always the man that has a huge mental block There's a reason for that if you have the desire to learn. Men and women have very different mating strategies. Which also means very different sets of characteristics and behaviors which work for them. Past behavior is still the best predictor of future behavior.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 03:45 PM
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>It’s insecurity. Is it insecurity? Maybe. On the other hand, there's plenty of evidence that show a higher body count means an increased likelihood of divorce. An increased likelihood of dissatisfaction. If it were only about insecurity the data wouldn't show that correlation, especially when it's 70-90% of time divorce is being initiated by women.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 03:43 PM
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can be tainted by having a high body count but that’s a ridiculous and outdated concept. Look at the comment from u/BlindMaestro. He provided sources. It's more than just an 'outdated concept'. There are studies and analysis that show a higher body count leads to greater dissatisfaction with a partner over time and an increased likelihood of divorce. With 70-90% of divorces being initiated by women (educated women are the higher rates) and more than 50% of all marriages failing. Plus it's 90+% o…
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 03:38 PM
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You're also operating with the assumption that more experience is better. What if it isn't because women are hypergamous (always looking for better) which then means all that experience, besides teaching her what she wants, also means she will not be satisfied by any new man who can't hit ALL the high points her previous lovers did? So each new guy has more high points to hit? BTW, stats show this is the case, the more bodies a woman has, the more likely she is to initiate divorce within 10 year…
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 03:30 PM
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Couldn't you say the same thing about the kings, that they waged war or not was dependent on the culture and tradition of the monarchy? If their foremothers waged war and conquests most likely kings would wage war too.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:59 PM
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Are they? How? Have you critically examined that claim?
/r/MensRights08/03/23 04:21 PM
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Health used to be part of STEM but once STEM numbers started showing more women than men in STEM it had to be adjusted so it looks one sided.
/r/MensRights07/03/23 05:17 AM
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I"m 56 and have lived in the U.S. and at least 15 other countries. Can say that during my life the word "feminist" has almost completely changed meaning. Used to be someone who wanted equal opportunity. Now it's someone who wants unequal outcomes in her favor.
/r/MensRights07/03/23 03:50 AM
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I have a wife of 35 years who I love and who loves me. Doesn't mean I can't see that in current western society being a man and masculinity in general is under attack. And that if it keeps up the system will backlash at some point. Which is what the OP is asking. What happens if it turns to armed conflict? An outright fight?
/r/AntiFeminists03/03/23 06:40 PM
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You're not staying to the hypothetical. War is armed conflict between two or more groups. The question was, who would win if the two groups were the genders, not what alternatives to such a conflict could look like. Saying, "There would be no war." Isn't an answer to the question, "Which gender would win if there was a war."
/r/AntiFeminists03/03/23 06:37 PM
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We just don’t need them anymore You still do, you just don't realize how much. Men have built the infrastructure of the world and do most of the maintenance. And almost all of the most dangerous and difficult and unrewarding jobs out there. Yes, women could do all of the dirty jobs men do today IF they wanted to and you had time to get up to speed on it. But in the most egalitarian societies that exist today the divide between the jobs women choose and those men choose is even bigger. So ability…
/r/AntiFeminists03/03/23 06:29 PM
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Same approach I use. Shows off the hypocrisy right away. But doesn't stop the irrational attacks.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 06:07 PM
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Have you seen what happens to people who were assaulted? Yes. And as I explained they are NOT connected in any way. We're talking about false accusations, not someone who was actually assaulted. Bringing up actual assaults as some type of whataboutism doesn't help the discussion about false accusers and what should be done about them. Why the shift? Do you think there should be compensation for being assaulted? As always it very much depends on how it's done. How do you establish assault actuall…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 07:05 PM
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It's part of the 'woman scorned' thing even if they ditched you.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/23 04:29 PM
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Body count always matters even when they claim it shouldn't.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/23 04:28 PM
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I second the recommend not to get married in the west now. It's simply not worth it any longer.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/23 04:25 PM
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Have you seen what happens to men who've been accused of assault? There are cases where a man was chosen by proximity and accused of assualt because the woman wanted her boyfriend to be jealous. He lost his current relationship (fiance if I recall correctly), his job, his family, kicked out of his apartment, and the legal fees broke him. She didn't get punished at all, and in fact when she apologized for it she got a multimillion dollar book deal. The question isn't whether it's worse to be assa…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 03:11 PM
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I would call myself a centrist but with the screwy U.S. politics that makes me left. I am an odd ball though. I support gun rights but think gun control is necessary. I support LGBTQ. I really dislike organized religions. I supports human rights (and men’s rights and women's rights depending on what rights). I a, fiscally conservative, but not like Republicans claim to be, actual balanced budget type, socially liberal. And I’m in my mid 50s and have been a Republican, Democrat and a Libertarian …
/r/MensRights28/02/23 01:35 AM
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Encoded into law to hide the infidelity so rampant in France?
/r/MensRights27/02/23 12:06 AM
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systemic rules are that only males are allowed to sit in the places of power If you're talking the United States, or even most of Western Europe, this isn't the case. What 'places of power' are limited to only men? >and that society is built to cater for the necessities of men only I look forward to seeing you try to defend this claim.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 10:10 PM
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Good. So long as you want actual equality I'm fine with that. So many say they want equality until the check comes or the loss of a home or having to sacrifice themselves for someone else. Then suddenly it's, "but I'm a woman!" and they expect special treatment.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 10:08 PM
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Also problematic when so many women say they don't want to be hit on at those places. Young men can't win socially.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 06:25 PM
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Unnecessary genital mutilation... covers both genders and focuses the conversation on it being an unnecessary procedure.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:53 PM
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What systemic rules support a patriarchy?
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:51 PM
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Really? You want to be required to sign up for selective service? Want to be required to pay child support for a child which you can demonstrate is NOT biologically yours? And in the case of divorce for a spouse who cheated you still have to pay them alimony? You want to pay for most dates and do most of the asking? You want to let men and children leave in an emergency while you get stuck trying to save lives?
/r/MensRights24/02/23 05:26 PM
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It's actually lower according to the studies someone else linked. The 40% may have been in the last 200 years. But if we look at from 500 to 8,000 years ago, it's closer to 26%. As for the baby boom you might be right for that one wave. But not for the long term it's not.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 07:39 PM
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>It is practically 100% effective when used correctly. No, it's not. Last I saw it was 97.8% effective when used correctly (in lab testing). But that's single use. Now try the numbers when a couple has sex 3 times a week for 5 years. Those small odds start adding up. Additionally, the rate once real usage is factored in is less than 90%. >Look after your condoms then? Yes, of course. Hence the NBA push. But is that any reason to not want men to have an effective birth control method that doesn't…
/r/MensRights15/02/23 05:27 PM
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male birth control Okay. So a few things to consider as the man in this relationship. First, are condoms 100% effective? No, in real world it's something under 90%. If you're going to be sexually active with a partner on a regular basis (what most men would prefer) then that missing 10% (even if it's only 3% with proper use) will someday bite you and you'll have an unwanted, unplanned pregnancy. Second, sperm jacking is a thing. Meaning women have retrieved condoms from the trash when they've ha…
/r/MensRights15/02/23 04:05 PM
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Even worse.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 03:13 PM
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No, that's just the most recent one I've heard. So I'm not certain. Oh, I'm certain it's less today than it has been historically. I'm talking from 50 years ago and back.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 08:23 PM
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Rape is hard to prove but feminists today are just fine having the accusation be enough. While at the same time giving a 'good job' to women who make false accusations. You say it's 'not common' but I'm not talking about just those who counter claim it's a false accusation. I'm talking about those who've admitted they accused falsely or have had their claims disproven. It's not as uncommon as you seem to think it is. What is sad it's that there doesn't seem to be any punishment for ruining a man…
/r/MensRights13/02/23 04:47 PM
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Given that historically only something like 40% of men reproduced it's not just an odds game, it's a stacked game to some extent.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 04:38 PM
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Exactly. What would happen to our society if all of the single men who are effectively invisible to women dating were to simply stop work. And find something else to do with their time?
/r/MensRights13/02/23 04:38 PM
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Historically only about 40% of men have reproduced. Which means the majority just live most of their lives alone.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 04:37 PM
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Until you can demonstrate a methodology that clearly establishes guilt you can't make any claim it's not a doxing or that it's only about dangerous men. It's far too easy to be abused by women who are pissed at a man, or dislike him. Look at the false rape accusations to see just how common it is.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 04:02 PM
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>some men have been getting away with bad behavior for years What efforts are being made to ensure it's only "those men"? None, right? Just anyone with a grudge or hurt feelings can post and destroy, at minimum, the dating opportunities for the man a woman has decided she dislikes. Flip the gender and make it about abuse and gold digging. You don't see any harm in that? No potential for misuse to have judgment without effort to determine guilt?
/r/MensRights13/02/23 03:56 PM
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Many partners will also later use this against you. Or find it unattractive which reduces desire.
/r/MensRights10/02/23 06:11 PM
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Fair enough. You got a chuckle.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 03:25 PM
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I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I'm arguing that the pay gap isn’t systemic and sexist but rather due to production. To answer my own question, it’s because the pay gap isn’t real. If it were companies would actively seek to hire more women.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 01:49 AM
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Same thing happens with the men unwilling to work the extra hours for promotion. Yeah, it’s actually often fair because companies in general promote of performance. Ask this question, if the pay gap were real, meaning women are legally paid less for the same job, why aren’t they hiring more women and why aren’t more lawsuits being leveled at corporations.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 06:49 PM
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The league should threaten that if they truly want to be treated equally it will dissolve the women's league entirely and let it be a gender neutral sport where all players have to make their team rosters on talent and skill. And get paid accordingly.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 11:25 PM
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Married nearly 35 years with 4 kids and 3 grand kids so you're wrong on many levels over a long time. Stop using the term 'incel' like it has any purpose other than shaming. Address the argument like a mature adult or continue to insult childishly. Your choice.
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/23 11:11 PM
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I love how, rather than addressing the argument, you turn immediately to sexual insults without knowing my situation at all. Shows you're just here pushing an agenda.
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/23 11:09 PM
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Less than those he's shooting for.
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/23 11:06 PM
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I would be more direct, "Do you want me asking you that about your female friends? If not, then allow me my friendships as I allow you yours."
/r/MensRights31/01/23 05:47 PM
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It's authoritarian control certainly, but we can't deny the possibility it's centered on a gender ideology in this case.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 04:59 PM
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Ask them this. Is it grooming if a 35 year old adult companion invites a 20 year old adult companion to lay money on the table at Vegas? Why or why not? Reverse the ages, same question. Then add gender and ask the question. At the end ask, "Isn't the definition of adult someone society considers mature enough to make decisions regarding their life?"
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/23 04:49 PM
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Valid questions but also hiding a couple of assumptions. First the STD applies to everyone. But typically women's body counts are higher than men's by a significant fact. Which means adding a decade to a woman's age vs men's age will often mean a huge difference in STD and trauma risk. It's not equivalent generally. A woman, aged 30 with 45 body count has a lot more likelihood of relationship trauma from multiple relationships (especially since they are often dating the top 1% of guys who won't …
/r/MensRights27/01/23 06:36 PM
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Worry about it? No. Worry is often wasted emotional stress for no reason. Have a mind set that likely won't lead to bitterness by re-evaluating my beliefs and how I feel about them regularly, sure. If someone tells me it's "all in your head" I prefer to respond with data. It's much harder to sound reasonable when arguing agains factual data.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/23 06:24 PM
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Good for you. Nothing wrong with going your own way.
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/23 01:16 AM
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Have you never seen the movie Wargames? Sometimes the only way to win is not to play. Which is always true if the game is rigged.
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/23 01:16 AM
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Makes me want to reply, "This is Sparta!" just for the absurdity of it.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:34 PM
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>"have audio recording" Funny how that isn't the first step for rape allegations, requiring the woman to produce audio recordings of the rape. If men are supposed to have it to avoid allegations, why aren't women required to provide it in order to support their allegations?
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:24 PM
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And it's one of the most insidious behaviors because of it. Not competence, not capability, not knowledge, not effort. Just equal outcome for no reason other than gender. Wait, how is that not incredibly sexist?
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:09 PM
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More likely the female fire fighters will become office staff and not spend much time in the field, or if they do, it'll be as traffic control or something not related to fighting the fire.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:08 PM
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Sure as hell hope not.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:06 PM
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No, someone's grandma gets to die because an entitled firefighter woman would get their feelings hurt otherwise.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 08:05 PM
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But why what? Why do women control access to sex? Because other than sexual assault it's their choice whose advances they accept, who they allow to have sex with them. Sure, that's one of the gateways to a relationship. If you want to picture it, imagine a path over a hill and around a lake. They control who gets through the front gate. The path is long, with lots of branches and exits. At the far end hidden away on one or many of those branches is marriage. Men control that gate because we're t…
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 05:32 PM
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Good points. Yeah, you're right it's probably about the over confidence.
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 05:27 PM
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It's almost a given that after having a child a woman will have significantly reduced sex drive. One of the common problems is when neither wife nor husband understands this and cares for it, but they instead jump back into sex too early and it creates some trauma that pushes her into a little sexual avoidance. Rinse and repeat with several children and when they stop having kids the collective trauma can be so high that her desire no longer justifies crossing that bar. So it starts dying off. I…
/r/MensRights20/01/23 05:25 PM
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I'm a man so have no personal knowledge other than my own marriage. I have been working with a few dozen sex and marital therapists on a project. During some of our discovery phase almost all of them reference data showing that women, in general, need sex less than men over time. Meaning, once they have the children they desire the need for sex significantly decreases while their partner's doesn't. I don't have the studies to show, that's just the responses I get collectively from them. I think …
/r/MensRights18/01/23 07:37 PM
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He didn't ask if they know how to change a tire. He asked when was the last time you say a woman change a flat tire. Knowledge is one thing, willingness to get your hands dirty and having the strength to do the job are very different.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 07:27 PM
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>I know what women went through What is it you think women 'went through' that was so terrible? Through history the suffering of men and women aren't that terribly different collectively. Yes, there are some specific places where men had more freedoms with not much more responsibility. But in much of history where feminists point to "women didn't have human rights" the same was true for most of the men at that time. So what specifically do you think they went through which didn't have a similar …
/r/MensRights18/01/23 07:25 PM
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I certainly didn't consent to mine 56 years ago. And my parents consented to it because their church beliefs, nothing to do with the supposed (and negligible) health benefits.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 07:01 PM
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Women control access to sex, even if they are delusional about their own sexual marketplace value. Watch the youtube videos where every woman interviewed thinks they are a 10 no matter what anyone else rates them and it shows they don't understand the difference between 'self worth' (how you see yourself and it being important to your mental health to value yourself highly) and 'marketplace value' (what price buyers are willing to pay for something, in this case the sexual marketplace value wher…
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/23 04:35 PM
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Which goes to show they don't understand value at all. Value is determined by what the buyer is willing to give to get it, not by what the seller wants, but what they can get.
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/23 04:31 PM
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They still like sex just as much as men In general perhaps. But there are a lot of women who like sex a lot less than men, especially once they approach or pass menopause. Which is why there are so many dead bedrooms. People love to assume it's because the guy is lazy, fat, makes no effort. But if you talk to sex therapists often it's a case where sex was important when she had a drive to get pregnant and keep her man close while during early child rearing years. But once kids start to leave the…
/r/MensRights18/01/23 04:01 PM
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It is if the spouse allows it. Not feeling desirous due to conflict is one thing. Consciously withholding due to a desired thing not being provided is manipulative and shouldn't be a part of a healthy relationship.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 03:58 PM
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>punishes you as well, ya know One thing often missed is that for the partner for whom sex is less important (especially if it's a lot less important), they aren't punishing themselves much to withhold sex. They just stop making the effort. ​ >they’re fighting with or upset with at the moment Key phrase is "at the moment". If withholding sex is a temporary thing lasting a few days, no issue I think every relationship has that. If there's a serious ongoing issue like drugs, alcoholism, or being t…
/r/MensRights18/01/23 03:56 PM
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As I understand it, the phrase 'to have and to hold' traditionally meant sex from her for protection from him. So if we have changed the meaning so there's no sexual expectation from either partner what is the woman offering in place of it since the man is still expected to offer protection?
/r/MensRights18/01/23 03:47 PM
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I got banned for asking someone there to remind me of the common marital vows. They were touting that sex was never part of the vows. I was intending to give them a history lesson on what the phrase "to have and to hold" meant back when it first became a vow. Instead of an answer I got a ban. It became permanent when I asked the mods why the ban when it's a reasonable question to ask given assumptions being made. Gotta love someone whose world view is so fragile it can't withstand even a hint of…
/r/MensRights18/01/23 03:21 PM
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In the U.S. the mother can decide to abort the fetus at any time up to 24 weeks without discussion (at least in states where abortion is still considered a right). From there until delivery it's still her option with the support of a physician, some will only agree in medical cases others won't require such. Even after birth the mother can put the child up for adoption. Or, there are statues where she can deliver the baby to a set of designated locations, like a police station, and just drop it …
/r/MensRights18/01/23 03:19 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 03:14 PM
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>cannot get much far without cooperating other people Tell that to all the men in dead bedroom marriages. Co-operation requires both partners to want the end result. If one decides it's no longer important arbitrarily the other partner is left with staying for less, or leaving. So a woman who wants all the provision and protection without having to be feminine, sexual, or loving sure can end the sex side of things and force her loving partner to choose which of two bad outcomes he'll accept. It'…
/r/MensRights17/01/23 10:50 PM
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Did the same in r/deadbedrooms and found similar issues. Posted the same story with genders reversed and the difference in how the female spouse was treated vs the male spouse as poster was like night and day. Apparently its always a man's fault, no matter what.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 10:45 PM
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The often said phrase, "His money is OUR money and her money is HER money" is a good example. If you ask a five hundred men and women if they would be willing to get married and be the sole provider, most of the men would say yes (at least in previous generations, this current one I don't blame for stepping out) while most women would say no. Men have to take responsibility to be the provider, women get to choose where and when to spend their money.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 10:32 PM
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Except the goals aren’t specific That was a problem I'm pointing out, so... you're agreeing with me? We already have 'common sense' gun laws and they have helped some. Not enough, I agree. But then again I know that we could impact criminal use of guns a lot more by making mental healthcare more readily available, decreasing the rate of poverty and isolation, and ensuring educational improvements than anything proposed gun controls (including an outright ban which so often seems the real goal).
/r/MensRights17/01/23 10:28 PM
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Once has to wonder if it's very subjectivity is the point, since it can so easily be abused by anyone with an agenda. If it required objective measures to ensure harassment occurred and was intentional it wouldn't be nearly so useful politically.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 10:01 PM
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Guns are still being used in school shootings. This isn't because we don't have common sense, or even reasonable gun laws. it's due to a lot of other factors. Most proposed gun laws will have little to no impact on any of the criminal uses of guns. Not even typically on the use of guns for suicide. They are really only for political capital. If we wanted effective gun controls we would need to do a couple of things: require law makers to identify a single type of gun related deaths (say suicide …
/r/MensRights17/01/23 09:48 PM
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I like, "Her body, her choice, means it's also her responsibility."
/r/MensRights17/01/23 09:05 PM
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Where did you get that abortion in the first 12 weeks from? I thought it was 24 weeks (at least before Roe was overturned). Looks like 24 weeks in the article linked. But... why should there be a time limit on the man's decision? He may not even know she's pregnant until months after birth. So why restrict him to the 24 week timeline when she is not legally required to inform him until she wants child care? https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/ask-experts/how-far-along-can-you-be-to-get-an-ab…
/r/MensRights17/01/23 08:41 PM
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We pay a price for that in how fast our hearts and skeletal structure develops problems later in life.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 08:18 PM
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I see it as the "many friends who are casual friends and won't really support you" vs the "few friends but they stick during thick and thin" models. Women make friends easier in general, but those friendships tend to be shallower and more competitive destructively (meaning they put each other down and even offer horrible relationship advice to compete) where male friendships tend to be fewer but deeper and competition is for fun and improvement.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 08:17 PM
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>literally waiting for an opportunity to attack women Flip the genders in this script lady and see how it reads.
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/23 08:00 PM
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Well stated. Also not feeling like a Dad having to deal with anything she feels is 'icky' or 'dangerous'.
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/23 06:08 PM
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If you're told all your life that you're special, a princess, and deserve the best, and that being a "10" is what every woman should see themselves as, there's not much there promoting a realistic evaluation. Men on the other hand are continually degraded and told how horrible we are, so we should be asking if our evaluations of ourselves are accurate? We know from dating app data that we tend to rate ourselves more accurately, but does that mean we're actually accurate, or we just equally under…
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/23 05:56 PM
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It's not an issue of hygiene but one of styling, a personal choice. It's fine for her to do that. She doesn't want to attract men so one of the reasons women say they do shave doesn't apply to her.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 08:17 PM
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The 'not real feminism' thing won't fly at this point. In the 70s-90s feminism might have been applied that way. Today though, there's more misandrists labelling themselves feminists than their are egalitarianists labelling themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights04/01/23 08:04 PM
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Don't put up with that shit. Soon as someone says that, ask, "Okay then, you explain it to me. Also, don't use sexist terms like that to me unless you want it returned." Plant that boundary firm and don't let them move it.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 05:59 PM
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Just as a clarification, having different standards (men going out to earn vs women being home makers) isn't the same as having double standards (it's not okay to objectify women but it's fine to do so to men).
/r/MensRights22/12/22 06:06 PM
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I do the fancy cooking, my wife hates cooking so does the simple stuff.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 05:05 PM
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Trust is a hard one, communication too. But don't accept all the blame for failing in the communication game. It takes both partners trying and willing to make changes to make it work. For a bit of humor. https://youtube.com/shorts/5l-li2PoWPA?feature=share
/r/Divorce_Men21/12/22 04:33 PM
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Why do you think it backfired? I'm not sure the impacts are finalized yet.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 06:24 PM
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If I ever am single again, this would be my approach as well.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 05:34 PM
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Not much of a business model but take your risk and make your play like other adults do.
/r/AntiFeminists20/12/22 04:35 PM
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This kind of crap does help me appreciate my wife. 34+ years together, we listened to her grand parents on how to setup a financial marriage from day one and haven't been disappointed. We've had lots of different situations, from me in school full time, primary carer for kids and working poorly paid part time to me full time work and her full time homemaker to both of us professionals with well paid careers. It's worked through all of it.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 07:13 PM
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Brave man who called it like it is and even got salty when his listeners tried to take over his show by volume when they couldn't do it by argument. He wasn't cruel, just brutally honest about things.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 07:02 PM
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Thing is, it's a mistake on their part to assumpe that nothing will happen. If pushed too hard there's always the criminal and violent option. That women have gotten away with it doesn't mean their victim won't decide it's worth it to hit back that hard. This is one of those fuck around and find out situations where the lesson can be terminal.
/r/AntiFeminists16/12/22 04:24 PM
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>accuser soon to be prosecuted Seems like one way to curtail these false allegations would be to automatically add the length of time served by their victim to the time they do for false accusation, and the addition cannot be reduced by 'good behavior'. So if false accusation is 5-10 years possible, add the year this guy actually served (as the minimum) she can get. So she has to actually serve 6-11 years, but with even good behavior cannot get in less than 1 year plus whatever the minimum is fo…
/r/MensRights15/12/22 05:09 PM
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Do you think the team owners and league managers don't understand the value of advertising and marketing? Because they would all need to be incompetent for that to be the explanation. They have experts to manage their advertising. If you don't hear about it then it's because their advertising experts tell them it's not worth spending the money for the viewership. Having done those calculations before it's not just a matter of pumping more money in and getting more revenues. There are limits to a…
/r/MensRights15/12/22 04:13 PM
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Search for "misogynist" or "misogyny" on these articles. If you find it, great, you've identified a pro-feminist article. And the bias will be high. I looked at a couple of the linked article. Seems to work just fine.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 03:47 PM
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Yes, but that's not what the protest is about, at least not solely. It's like arguing that the war for Independence in the U.S. was about religious freedom. That was a small part of it, but not the primary driver, nor were religious people the only ones being impacted.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 05:35 PM
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From a feminist perspective it's a great way to weed out the men who are logical and care about truth and select only those who are easily deluded. Winning strategy if you want to either (a) be alone or (b) be with someone easily controlled (simp).
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 04:55 PM
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It's hardly the smoking gun in the inequality argument. Seems to work both ways, yes? Yet the article is clearly a woman blaming men for not doing their fair share. Which I disagree with entirely because in my home (34+ years married) and in the home and family I was raised in, all the holidays, work, meals, etc. were shared. I don't have any examples in my personal life of wife cooks and cleans and does all the shopping and hubby just goes to work, comes home, and rests.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 04:39 PM
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It's not a problem discussing it. It's a problem translating your experience to a generalized one and assuming men therefore carry less holiday burden. In my home, married 34+ years, it's not all like your experience. Neither was my childhood home. I cook all the meats (turkey, ham), eggs (quiches, omelets, etc.), soups, and do things like peel vegetables, or cook them (mashed-potatoes), etc. My wife prefers to do salads, jello and breads (cookies). She makes way more mess than I do. Guess who d…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 04:34 PM
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Been married 34+ years. I cook all the meats, soups, and do things like carrots, mashed-potatoes, etc. My wife prefers to do salads and breads. She makes way more mess than I do. Guess who does the dishes generally? We put the tree up, put up decorations and take them down. I put up the outside lights and decorations. My parents set this division up when I was a kid. So not sure where the assumption that the woman cooks all the holiday food comes from.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 04:27 PM
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So the regime has imposed this clothing code. Everyone lived with it for a while. Now its being protested. A few women killed. More men killed and jailed. Yet somehow for you it's all about the women rather than being about the oppressive regime and it's being protested by both men and women. Whose the sexist here?
/r/MensRights14/12/22 04:13 PM
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OP, do this!!
/r/Divorce_Men14/12/22 03:42 PM
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A general warning, not just to you.
/r/MensRights07/12/22 03:12 PM
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she laughed in my face and told me she was just looking for an excuse to get me out of the room If it helps you feel any better she can't be that smart. If she was she wouldn't have been so cruel and smug when telling you because it's possible that could have resulted in you attacking her and hurting her badly. That you didn't speaks well for your self control. She took advantage of your good nature, mate.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/22 05:18 PM
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Don't feed the trolls, mate. Look at his profile.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:49 PM
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This!!!
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/22 06:33 PM
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Mine was 17%, and 11 of the news sources would be only local. Because I'm white, male, 56.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:58 PM
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There's also a thing which rarely seems to get mentioned. That when you blame a gender for everything it sets up the "feel uncomfortable" for almost any interaction. The man can be doing nothing and the woman can still 'feel uncomfortable' but it's not a justified feeling. The man isn't just accused, he's convicted on nothing more than a feeling that's been pre-programmed.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:44 PM
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its highly likely the girl did something that others would perceive as unsafe Flip it around. If it feels unjust then the opposite is too. Equality means treating people equally, not assuming that one gender is always doing something to dangers. BTW, the "making her feel uncomfortable" is too far because it's so subjective it enables misandrists to label anything a man does, even just glancing in her direction" as threatening.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:39 PM
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When you find yourself thinking about her which then leads to feelings (whether feeling bad or feeling nothing) pay attention to that and consciously divert your thoughts to something you actually should be caring about, your kid or you. Things like health, gym, dinner, what to do on the weekend and so on. Consciously make changes in how your brain responds to thoughts of her by redirecting it to more useful thoughts. It will take time but it's a method from therapy to help refocus attention. Ev…
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/22 05:21 PM
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Don't know about you but working out with a heavy bag is great for getting rid of anger. Gives you a safe outlet and is a good workout. Just beat the crap out of it, then entire time reminding yourself that you need to get in better shape, you need to get control of your life, you need to be in charge of where you go from here. And that someday the pain will be gone but the lessons learned and the growth you gained will remain.
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/22 03:45 PM
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Can you demonstrate any feminist orgs fighting for men's issues? Seriously interested.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 06:34 PM
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You're right, the definition of feminism doesn't hate on men. And the earlier feminists didn't either. But in the past 25 years or so a lot of feminists do hate on men. Blanket hatred. You can hear it in comments like, "Men are trash" or the constant claim in feminist boards that any disagreement with their stated or actual ideology (rather than the textbook definition) is 'misogynist'.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 06:33 PM
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You're heading for being depressed and in a dead bedroom. Can either get her to work with you to fix the issues, or get out. Only you can say which one you think more likely. Sounds like exit to me but you need to decide.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/22 04:22 PM
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If we want to hold men to the standard of being up front and honest that marriage isn't on the table, we should also hold women to the standard of being up front and honest that sex / relationship isn't on the table.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 04:11 PM
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man leads a woman on through years of dating Why do you phrase it this way? Reality is it is just as likely her leading him on. Or both not sure if they are long term. If you don't want to get married, you need to be open about that with the person you are dating Agreed. If marriage isn't a possibility this should be shared. But so too should be shared that sex isn't a possibility. Turn about is fair.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 04:01 PM
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So when a guy asks a girl out and all she wants is dinner and a night out, and has no real desire to spend time with him, she should tell him that? Okay, I think it would be great to see that level of honesty.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 03:59 PM
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A woman cannot become pregnant on her own Depends how you mean. There are cases where the man uses a condom and she grabs it and makes herself pregnant from what's inside. So yeah, it is possible for a woman to become pregnant on her own, it's just rare.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 03:40 PM
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