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The men aren't bad people. But the woman wanting a relationship qnd rejecting men she's not attracted to is also valid. I'm a guy who wants a girlfriend and I get attention from women that are twice my age or morbidly obese. Doesn't mean I'm wrong for wanting a woman I find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:47 PM
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I swear when lever I go outside and see couples around my age, usually the man is shorter than me and I'm about average height. Could be because I'm white in a very Latino city.. anyway,, The man could be considered attractive but not in the male model way incels think of, but I also see plenty of men with women where the men aren't attractive whatsoever but the girls are. I seriously question if incels even go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:59 AM
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It 1000% does. The more partners a woman has had, the more likely divorce will happen. There are numerous studies on this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:50 AM
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https://datingzest.com/tinder-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:47 AM
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Alrighty then
/r/seduction24/10/21 01:40 AM
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I'm about to be 28, if that's considered young. Admittingly the tinder pics are from 2017.
/r/seduction24/10/21 01:33 AM
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But no women approaching means no woman is into me 😉
/r/seduction24/10/21 01:02 AM
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Well, that's probably not me. I can pull, but it's never served to me on a silver platter, in that sense.
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:56 AM
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Hey I can admit I look like a bridge troll bro
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:52 AM
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Whatever the vibe is doing. The steps I gave are not hard rules to follow. Anything could happen. Just take it easy, and if she likes you, everything should be fine.
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:48 AM
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Go with the flow and just have fun dancing with her. If you see she's reciprocating more and more, try placing your hand on her shoulder. From there it should lead to a makeout. Once that's taken care of dance a little more and then lead her somewhere you can talk to each other. You should be set from there.
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:42 AM
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It's upsetting for them to think they're hot shit only to realize girls don't really notice them like they were thinking they would. Then they find out there are guys out there who girls are approaching every time they go out. It makes them feel like they're a nobody and will never get the experiences the guy's women notice do. It's disheartening so they choose to believe it's something that just never happens ever and they could get plenty of women if they wanted to. They excuse it by claiming …
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:35 AM
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Admittingly, when I was with my ex at a club, girls that were doped as fuck would be putting their hands all over me. First, I and my ex were just sitting down together and this random girl sits next to me and starts touching me and resting her hand on my arm. You could tell she was also blasted on something. I resisted it and leaned closer to my ex but then when I told her I was high on acid, she starts sensually taping me in various parts of my body with her fingers I guess because it gives yo…
/r/seduction24/10/21 12:09 AM
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I think the more accurate term is drunk vibe 🥴
/r/seduction23/10/21 10:04 PM
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Wasn't me 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction23/10/21 08:50 PM
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Ah. first honest person I've seen on reddit. I've been working out since. I wonder if having muscles could make a difference. I wasn't going to the gym at all in those pics so I had no build whatsoever. Maybe now girls would notice me. I've only been at it a few months though
/r/seduction23/10/21 08:25 PM
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That makes sense, but still getting 30 matches is still fairly significant. Especially when you boost regularly and you're consistently getting the same results. Most guys don't get shit on tinder. Who knows though but I'm just in denial and I'm not really all that hot shit.
/r/seduction23/10/21 06:37 PM
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As a 5'11 I don't know how to feel about this
/r/seduction23/10/21 05:44 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/xBgMZ9A this is the profile. I go out with maybe 1-2 of those girls. I'd say slightly less than half of the matches are girls I'm interested in. I use autoswipers and blind swipe until the boost is up. I gained a bit of muscle since then so those pics aren't wholly accurate
/r/seduction23/10/21 05:42 PM
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Very insightful. What kind of guys do you approach if you don't mind me asking?
/r/seduction23/10/21 04:33 PM
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Don't lead her on and make her feel like anything's a guarantee. Have the presence that you like her but leave it kind of ambiguous at the same time. Go ahead and fuck her a few times and just take it easy. If she wants something serious be honest with her and if she doesn't want to continue it's all good
/r/seduction23/10/21 03:38 AM
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Muscles
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:31 PM
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7 lays and 3 LTRs in 3 years ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:25 PM
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That phenomenon started around the time agriculture took form. The men that would get women were men that grew crops and controlled the food supply. Because of that, they were often very powerful. Men who couldn't grow food had virtually nothing to offer. Nowadays, in a developed society, the average man has far more to offer than he did 8000 years ago, hence there's a lot more men dating women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:14 PM
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Id like to read it if you happen to find it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:12 PM
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Whats his height?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:59 PM
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I love when they shut up after they're confronted for having a lack of proof
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:58 PM
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Hey that's not fair to women. It usually takes me 2 dates to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:51 PM
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They're not though. PUA content has seriously declined from its peak in 2012-2013
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:40 PM
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A Woman. A. Singular example. Go have a brain blast jimmy and realize what you're saying is completely stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:52 PM
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None of the guys I see with women are male models. What the hell are talking about? Do you never go outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:50 PM
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This is probably true. It's reported that 50 percent of gay men cheat on their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:48 PM
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Plumbers make great money. Especially if they own the business
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:04 PM
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It's just around the corner. It's been that way for the last 10 years
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:00 AM
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Cumming inside feels really godo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:59 AM
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Im lead to believe big sugar has a hand in this
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:30 PM
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Havent you ever found your girlfriend to be the prettiest girl in the world? Kinda like that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:29 PM
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I'm not hot and I get a lot of matches. I can DM you for proof
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:53 PM
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Women don't have ridiculous standards. you're either just ugly or terrible at talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:37 PM
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The one and only
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 08:54 PM
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There's actually this yt channel where this buff good looking dude records himself hitting on girls and they're immediately creeped tf out. Granted he does still find success because he's gl but he goes through a lot of rejection and only gets drunk girls that last one night. Look up Jay Rockefeller.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:35 PM
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Credit card processing companies are opting out of subscriber based porn websites. That's why OF is taking these drastic measures. These alts probably arent going to work out very well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:47 PM
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Open discussion is healthy. No matter what your viewpoint is, it's important to have multiple perspectives. Nothing is black and white. Conforming to your beliefs without ever being willing to listen to the other side is ignorant. Shame on those subreddits
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 11:10 AM
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Because girls don't think so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:14 AM
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You're not good looking then. I'm definitely no model but I can get use out of tinder. I think you're overestimating your appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:26 PM
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How tall was your last boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:10 PM
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You assume that women have tons of men under their belt. Most women I've known have had less sexual partners than I have and I haven't even pushed 10. There are definitely women that would fuck an attractive guy at the drop of the hat but you assume all women are promiscuous like that. It doesnt make sense to assume that based off of a few women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:56 PM
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Funny how they wouldn't keep them under their belt though
/r/seduction17/07/21 11:42 PM
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It was originally going to be a quick drink at a bar but the bar was at a popular restaurant on a friday night all the seats were taken. Had to settle for a table in a noisy restauraunt.
/r/seduction06/07/21 01:40 AM
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Truth be told I never felt particularly strong feelings. Even when we were talking on the phone and she was enjoying the interaction. I liked her I was looking forward to seeing where things would go but she wasnt really grabbing me like some other girls I've went out with did. She was definitely attractive. One of the more attractive girls I met up with. On the date though the interaction felt kind of stiff. She didnt seem excited or "patient". She judged a lot of things I said and did, like sh…
/r/seduction05/07/21 04:02 PM
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This one date I didn't escalate at all and I got the whole "we should just be friends" text. Admittingly we were talking to each other for months since she broke her ankle and it would be hard to go out when she's recovering. We talked on the phone too. Sometimes our conversations would get sexually implicit. It would never be direct sexual conversation besides maybe making out, but she would definitely hint at sleeping with each other; ie she would want the date to be on a Friday instead of a w…
/r/seduction05/07/21 06:48 AM
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I'm guessing the lack of attraction wasn't because I wasn't escalating
/r/seduction05/07/21 05:20 AM
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Especially one they willingly participated in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:43 AM
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Its just the pandemic. Things will rebound as vaccinations roll out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:39 AM
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But enjoy the hell out of it anyway
/r/TheRedPill30/05/21 09:03 PM
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What are good examples?
/r/askTRP27/05/21 04:39 AM
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Can you recommend a more succinct bio that still gets the point across?
/r/askTRP27/05/21 03:56 AM
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5 times
/r/askTRP27/05/21 03:44 AM
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They're compressed since I cropped them off the desktop site. Normally they're decently high res.
/r/askTRP27/05/21 03:44 AM
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I've brought girls home before
/r/askTRP27/05/21 03:31 AM
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Pictures are actually much better irl. I cropped the photos from the desktop app so they were highly compressed as a result. I'm 5'11 if that's worth mentioning.
/r/askTRP27/05/21 02:45 AM
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Her parents were from chile and Cuban if that means anything but she was born in Miami
/r/askTRP24/05/21 02:05 PM
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Florida
/r/askTRP24/05/21 01:27 PM
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Right on the money. My dad thought she was borderline too and he's a psychologist. I dated a BPD once before. Total nightmare.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 05:11 AM
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My dad thought the exact same thing and he's a psychologist
/r/askTRP24/05/21 03:59 AM
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Cool I'm not a chump who has bad game then. We just didnt connect physically
/r/askTRP24/05/21 03:43 AM
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If you dont mind me asking, what's the key to being a good kisser
/r/seduction24/05/21 02:37 AM
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Cool beans. Thanks. I'll look out for girls that really enjoy my vibe
/r/seduction24/05/21 02:36 AM
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She seemed great honestly. She was good at keeping her problematic side hidden. Sucessful and seemed like she cared for others. That's probably true but too much shit for me to deal with otherwise
/r/askTRP24/05/21 02:27 AM
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Ah so it's a different strokes for different folks kind of thing and I should look for someone I really connect with then
/r/seduction24/05/21 01:52 AM
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I had already kind of given up on her when she admitted she had strong feelings for her ex. I didnt really care that much what happened after
/r/askTRP24/05/21 01:21 AM
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This is the way
/r/askTRP24/05/21 01:11 AM
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I didnt tell the whole story. Shes been through years of therapy and got really offended and blew up at me when I told her she should talk to a professional about getting over heavy feelings for her ex
/r/askTRP24/05/21 01:02 AM
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She seemed really comfortable cuddling with me and was all over me when we met. It was until we kissed and tried escalating that it started to go downhill
/r/seduction24/05/21 12:59 AM
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Good to know. I'll keep looking for that
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:49 AM
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Gotta love em
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:43 AM
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I took my time. At first I was more aggressive she said I was going to fast then I let her take control since and set the pace since she told me she likes to be dom when we talked in the phone.
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:25 AM
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Most likely. I'll probably be on top of another girl by then
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:23 AM
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More like bpd but yeah
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:20 AM
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Yeah I figured. Oh well
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:19 AM
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I told her she should seek professional help about her problems. She got mad and stormed out. Lmao oh well. Onto the next
/r/askTRP24/05/21 12:17 AM
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Also know someone who can get you juiced up
/r/TheRedPill20/05/21 08:52 PM
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27, 6 lays (If you include 1 oral), 2 LTRs
/r/askTRP19/05/21 06:14 PM
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Honestly, I don't really see the point. I have other options so I don't really feel that invested or torn up anymore. I think it was just the initial shock of waking up to that text this morning. I feel like it's passed
/r/askTRP19/05/21 06:09 PM
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I let her go. If she wants me she'll reach out to me.
/r/askTRP19/05/21 05:59 PM
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I let her go
/r/askTRP19/05/21 05:27 PM
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Honestly really insightful advice. I've decided to let it go.
/r/askTRP19/05/21 04:58 PM
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That's fair
/r/askTRP19/05/21 04:47 PM
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I replied with "k". She responded like she was upset and said she thought I would be more understanding. At this point, I'm probably not going to respond. Unless she sends me more texts showing she's really invested, I'm just going to focus my attention elsewhere.
/r/askTRP19/05/21 04:44 PM
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Well see how she responds after I say that. I'm going to wait though
/r/askTRP19/05/21 03:10 PM
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The idea is to make her chase me. I wouldn't be looking like I'm trying to win her back. I know better. But I would still be taking action that makes her want to pursue. Probably by being distant and uninvested
/r/askTRP19/05/21 03:09 PM
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Love it. It makes sense to disqualify her like that and give her the impression that she completely disrespected me by investing in me while she was talking to another guy.
/r/askTRP19/05/21 03:05 PM
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Because I want to guarantee theres no chance by doing whatever I can first
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:56 PM
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We talked on the phone about sex.
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:47 PM
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Not many. That's high investment. She opened up about what turns her on too and what she wants me to do to her.
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:37 PM
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Okay. I like it
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:31 PM
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We talked about having sex and she sent pics of her butt
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:30 PM
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Im ready for that possibility. I'd rather at least to exhaust all attempts than simply give up. Either way, giving in guarentees nothing will happen. May as well do something
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:28 PM
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I have other options but I'm not that interested in them
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:25 PM
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Assuming she tries to get my attention again, what's my next course?
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:18 PM
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Theres months of dating random girls that leads to frustration and disappointment. Its frustrating to find a girl I feel really connected to. Most girls I dont. I take it really seriously when I do.
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:16 PM
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Got it
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:14 PM
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So in other words dont even reply to her text then?
/r/askTRP19/05/21 02:02 PM
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Absolutely. Withdrawing. And not seeming available anymore is powerful
/r/askTRP19/05/21 01:59 PM
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I'm actually pretty good-looking myself and don't really struggle with women. I know most men are basically invisible to women despite me being fairly successful. The only men who seem to get laid regularly are good-looking. I don't think a man who is largely unnoticed by girls is going to benefit from any of this. Especially if he's really unattractive. OP gets laid really easily. Most guys struggle to find girls who are even attracted to them
/r/TheRedPill17/05/21 06:17 PM
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So you're saying unless you're naturally really good looking, don't bother
/r/TheRedPill17/05/21 05:43 PM
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None of this matters if we dont know what your face looks like. You could be a male model telling average dudes they could get laid as much as you do, when typically it doesn't really work like that. Prove to us you're an average joe. Either show us your face, your tinder matches, or your rating on photofeeler
/r/TheRedPill17/05/21 02:23 PM
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Where's the proof that people will lie in anonymous surveys they choose to participate in?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 06:43 PM
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Well it matters that you're a douche because it shows that you dont give a shit about anyone. I'm not surprised you never felt love in your relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:19 PM
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You sound like a giant douche
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:11 PM
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Have you ever been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 08:01 PM
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You act as though love doesn't exist in any relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:52 PM
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Yeah this place became an incel hellscape. There is no more nuance or moderate feelings. Any subreddit that allows unpopular or typically censored philosophies will end up having that philosophy become dominant, even if it's a sub meant to have a focus on both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 07:23 AM
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Lmao downvoted for calling out unsubstantiated speculation
/r/BlackPillScience31/03/21 06:15 PM
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Which also isnt science
/r/BlackPillScience31/03/21 06:14 PM
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Hopefully an open source alternative will gain traction and kill all this paid dating app bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 07:54 PM
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sportsball 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 07:19 PM
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That's definitely not true. Met plenty of girls on tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 06:33 AM
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Why not just say "women"? Obviously, you're trying to make a statement if you're going out of your way like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 04:30 PM
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I've never seen the word males used in that context unless explicitly by someone using it offensively
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 04:13 PM
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Lol imagine going out of your way to explicitly call women females and then defending that stance by name calling and insulting someone's masculinity all because someone called out your sexist garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:53 PM
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Yeah, this sub has long abandoned the purple aspect. it's typical though. Any sub that allows free communication from two sides eventually has the more controversial and socially unacceptable side taking over since those that believe in the status quo are less passionate than those who defy it. It's just like what happened to PCM.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:32 PM
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females
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:19 PM
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Women have substantially higher standards for what they find attractive. Even with the attention, most of the guys are boring and unattractive to her. The guys she wants are often highly attractive, to begin with, and have plenty of options as it is. He doesn't need her. It's a struggle for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:17 PM
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Stop making it a dick measuring contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 05:00 PM
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I met them both through online dating and they were both under 21
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 02:48 AM
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27
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 02:15 AM
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Um I'm not a model and have been in two happy relationships within the last three years
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 01:52 AM
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Honestly, this sub has been overrun by incels and LVM's. Every time I go to the mall or I'm on campus, I'm shocked at how many unexceptional looking guys are with decent looking girls and these guys are often shorter than me where I'm 5'11. I'm seriously convinced these users don't bother going out and stay in cherrypicked echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 01:49 AM
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You're not a good example. You're probably someone who's had little to no partners or sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 10:20 PM
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"Keeping the peace" with the wrong man is just going to escalate. People already aren't thrilled about rejection but ghosting someone and not giving them closure? That's going to make the scary men snap
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:31 PM
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"73.1% of the participants reported that one of their male friends had used Tinder while in a relationship and 56.1% reported that one of their female friends had used Tinder while in a relationship"
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/21 08:45 AM
2

Then that just seems to suggest you're good looking and women want to talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:23 AM
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I don't really do day game. My hustle was on OLD before I met my girlfriend. Did a few years ago before the OLD boom with pretty poor results regardless. I'll admit I haven't approached a lot of girls, about 10, so I know I don't really have the experience to prove my point, but I hear so many stories of men approaching thousands of women with little to no success. There's also the fact that cold approaching is really dying out and pick up artists are basically a thing of the past. The money is …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:08 AM
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You're better looking than you think. There are many guys who do well when it comes to approaches but the majority of men don't get anywhere. You are not the average man and you should really think about how good you actually have it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:33 AM
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I guess I should just forget about the 6 women I slept with then including my current girlfriend. Only one girl out of all of them was overtly promiscuous. The rest had a lower body count than me. I'm sorry. I'm going to have believed my own personal experiences more than men that are biased and constantly try to sell a certain narrative. Humor me though. What have the girls you slept with been like?
/r/BlackPillScience04/07/20 05:20 AM
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Women desire for sex is significantly different than a man's. Having sex at the ready isn't as appealing for women as you would think. Women would rather find a guy to absolutely love and sleep with him monogamously rather than go out and fuck a bunch of guys for the hell of it. That is not most women and most of the women I've gone out with have had sex with maybe 2 or 3 guys before me. Compare that to me who is already at 6 girls. It is anecdotal but knowing so many women and knowing their low…
/r/BlackPillScience26/06/20 04:46 AM
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Is every chick that eager to fuck on a whim like men are? That is the question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:18 PM
2

There are numerous studies that show less than 1% of obese people will ever reach a healthy weight in their lifetimes. Obesity is a serious problem and treating it is so much harder than you think. You have to be someone with insane willpower. It's almost like a talent. All those success stories are anecdotal and do not represent what the average person has to go through at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:43 AM
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40% of women are obese. Not that fucking easy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:45 AM
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You sound like you're bottom percentage and projecting hard right now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:16 AM
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The fact that your only argument is based solely on his terminology shows how much of a dumbass you are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:45 AM
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Expect chads on dating apps are pretty damn rare to begin with and the ones that are on have plenty highly attractive women that already want them. I would know. The pretty girls I've met that consider me attractive tell me most of the guys on the apps are ugly. Becky isn't getting in chads pants no where near as much as you think she is, much less commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:32 PM
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Lmao all these triggered baldos
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:19 PM
2

Yeah no doubt about it. I think incels problems are very real and most people don't realize how bad ugly men have it. If you're genetically disadvantaged, it's going to be a rough life no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 04:48 PM
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Okay. That's a reasonable perspective. I will admit that some men are definitely in a bad position and can't do much to change their situation. However, I think plenty of men can become more attractive with just a couple more pounds of muscle, or shedding some fat. Not every guy will get the same results though, especially if he's short. But I think the average guy would benefit noticeably.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 04:26 PM
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I see things claiming that looks matter when it comes to initial attractiveness. Nothing disproves not being good looking makes it impossible to date women overall though. Trust me, I've known about that subreddit for years
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:06 AM
1

I was just asking for the studies you were challenging us to. No need to put me down. Also, all incel spaces are banned on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:39 AM
1

Why don't you post some of these statistics so we can argue with them in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:37 PM
-1

Specifically low value, unsuccessful men. Boyfriend's mom died? That's different
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:27 PM
1

Ugly masculine is a very real thing. You can have ugly features, but if you're tall and have a huge frame, the ugly features only make you intimidating which signals dominance and strength
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:08 AM
1

Ah so you typically win girls over by "gaming" them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:03 PM
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6 out of ten is considered light model on that subreddit. It's not handed out easily. Many times people who give 6's are heavily downvoted just because most users don't believe a poster deserves that rating. Are girls often initially attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:38 PM
1

When it comes to online dating sure. If you haven't noticed though, there are plenty of average looking guys in relationships and many times the girl is hotter than the guy. And this isn't just a beta bucks situation, you see this all the time in university too where everyone is broke as shit. Maybe the average guy can't pull girls home whenever he wants, but to say no girls would date him sounds so far removed from reality and I'm astonished that mindset is so prevalent here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 02:08 PM
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It's funny I get a lot of dates and matches on OLD but I'm not particularly a male model. I rarely go home with them though. Are you saying you have more success offline just doing pickups?
/r/seduction31/03/20 07:59 AM
3

Personality overrides looks though. Only reddit believes dating is impossible unless you're good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 07:42 AM
2

What were your truerateme ratings, if you don't mind sharing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 07:04 AM
1

It's true. John Williams, one of the most renown composers in the world, considers himself mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:51 PM
2

You think you're cool and "above it all" but you actually sound like a piece of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:32 AM
1

That's assuming the Woman enjoys casual sex in the first place though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:22 PM
1

This is a specific question that has not been asked before. I'm not asking if muscles will help me. I'm asking if the reason I'm failing is because I don't have musculature. I want to know if muscles will solve my issues because I'm failing dramatically. I was hoping for the community's guidance so I can figure out what I'm really doing wrong here. As a subreddit that serves to help men that are struggling in dating, I really don't think removing this was fair at all
/r/seduction16/03/20 04:36 AM
1

In the body pics I'm wearing baggy clothes or they're old photos from when I was less skinny
/r/seduction16/03/20 04:00 AM
1

5'11 150
/r/seduction16/03/20 03:57 AM
9

The rhetoric is only 20% of men stand a chance these days while the rest get little to no attraction from females. As for below average men, I think the bottom 10 are basically screwed. I don't think you have to be a male model to be attractive to women, but I do believe there is a minimum attractiveness threshold and unattractive men will find it incredibly difficult to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:34 AM
8

Jesus Christ. Was this sub taken over by incels? Have you never seen average looking men with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:15 AM
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I'm glad this isn't the misogynist community Reddit wants everyone to think it is.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 08:36 PM
0

I haven't met one woman like this. It's easy to judge people who when you lack real world experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 08:54 PM
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They don't. You need to hang around blackpill spaces more and away from the real world. Spaces like that know better than any of us and you're just coping if you think men without real world experience are ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:56 PM
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Girls in their 20s in a relationship with average looking guys isn't uncommon at all. Hell, I almost never see male models when I see couples. I don't know what kind of world you live in but it sounds like this is simply speculation without any real world experience
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:47 PM
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The key is to tease her and playfully disagree with her sometimes in addition to understanding her. That way you can keep it exciting and not seem like a pushover
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:03 PM
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Honestly I think it's because most self identified incels are so unattractive they can't lock down a single woman. There will always be a subset of the population doomed to fail
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 01:27 AM
1

Have you been leaning out and losing bodyfat?
/r/seduction12/02/20 08:08 PM
1

What do you think allowed for that?
/r/seduction12/02/20 06:28 PM
1

For sure. I feel like I've got a handle on all of that. I feel calm and collected on most dates I go on. I'm wondering if it's just my appearance
/r/seduction06/02/20 05:01 AM
1

Live with my mom in a very expensive city ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/seduction05/02/20 07:38 AM
2

Personal experience is sort of a figure of speech. I just meant I'll make a statement that relates to what she said. The balance should definitely be 20/80-10/90. Sometimes the girl doesn't elaborate much so im forced to ask more questions and it's a little interviewey and dry. That's when I try to to make a statement to relate to what she said. Seems to make things more flowing in instances like that. I figure I should make the first contact. not too much and not to fast of course. I rarely get…
/r/seduction05/02/20 05:23 AM
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I guess I struggle having those in depth questions sometimes. I just don't try enough I guess. Maybe I should try this approach. For example, let's say a girl plays volleyball. I ask her when she started. Shell tell me in highschool. I say what made her start. She says her friends told her to join. I'll say what is it that made it so enjoyable. She'll say the feeling of power and adrenaline of spiking a goal and scoring a point. Then I would say I relate to that. I love that feeling of scoring a…
/r/seduction05/02/20 05:14 AM
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So I make sure to ask lots of questions about themselves, but interject my own personal experience and relate to them. Sometimes it's difficult to ask questions though. Especially when they don't really have passions besides going out and "hanging with friends". I've just started making it a point to physically escalate little by little. Last date, I startes with lightly touching forearms when I made her laugh, then I moved onto shoulders and back and that was it. I guess I should also move onto…
/r/seduction05/02/20 04:58 AM
1

So for the 100 women you've made out with, do you kiss them soon after meeting them?
/r/seduction05/02/20 04:10 AM
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Q. Did those girls that felt like you weren't into them reject you in the end? I've been in situations where I didn't escalate and the girl claimed she couldn't feel a "spark"
/r/seduction05/02/20 04:05 AM
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Much better. Setting up dates is a cinch honestly. Get her attention with a catchy, funny opener, ask her a little about herself, relate with your own experience, ask her out. Been getting dates pretty consistently. I saw the one girl I thought I blew it with too. Didn't quite work out. She looked different from her profile let's just say. I will say though my dates honestly haven't been a smash hit. They usually ghost me and I don't get a lot of 2nd dates.
/r/seduction05/02/20 12:47 AM
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Do girls tell you you're attractive and do they approach you on the street? Honestly your failure, as in 100s of makeouts, doesn't really sound like you've ever struggled with attracting women. Most guys don't get to have anything close to that kind of experience
/r/seduction05/02/20 12:27 AM
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Never been approached by girls I didn't know. I guess I'm just not very good looking then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/seduction04/02/20 07:56 PM
1

Gotcha. Looks like I'm renewing my membership 😎
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:16 PM
1

Here's a shitty mirror selfie http://imgur.com/QqaNJcs I do have one pic when I was "jacked" long ago: https://i.imgur.com/qKjH3u7.png
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:11 PM
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Here's my mug if you're curious: http://imgur.com/a/uY7NKa4 I put in some pics that aren't in my profile
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:51 PM
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Sounds like he's just physically attractive
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:36 PM
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Noted. Thanks
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:44 PM
1

Well I'll admit I'm 150 at 5'11. Maybe it is my lack of muscles
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:31 PM
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I don't know. I didn't get sexual off the bat and I got more physical the more we were teasing eachother and laughing. I started slow and after a little while, escalated. But maybe it was still the wrong approach
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:41 AM
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Yeah today I tried to kiss this girl as we were saying bye since it was hard to kiss in the bar we were at. She rejected it and turned her face. I made sure to be physical by touching her back arms, shoulders, and getting lightly sexual in the conversation beforehand. I don't know
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:16 AM
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Question though, did you start slow with little success then get dramatically better as you learned?
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:11 AM
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Yep that's me to a tee. Definitely an experienced dater who teases and is playful. I try to make a fun atmosphere and avoid playing it safe and having dry convos. Even then it doesn't lead to much
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:02 AM
1

Youre good. I've had over 40 dates and only 4 lays
/r/seduction02/02/20 05:26 AM
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Yeah she seemed really classy and had this, mature, intelligent vibe to her. I think that's sort of just human behavior these days. It's not necessarily shitty of them or makes them bad people. It doesn't mean I did anything wrong either. It just is what it is. I guess girls just block a dude they're not into to avoid confrontation or message spamming. It's basically just another form of ghosting. In a way, I prefer getting blocked cause at least I'm not left guessing and wondering how she feels
/r/seduction02/02/20 04:54 AM
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Thank you. That's pretty flattering of you to say
/r/seduction01/02/20 10:44 PM
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Christ this is exactly me. I've been on 40 dates throughout my life. Maybe about 5 of them did I feel a real connection. I definitely learned to frame it like you really want to know them and would ask lots of questions. It has helped quite a bit but today it still felt really stiff and awkward. We did have decent conversation though, but maybe it was just her personality
/r/seduction01/02/20 10:28 PM
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That's a good perspective. Unfortunately many hate speech subreddits ironically censor any differing views themselves making it so they're unable to be challenged. Groups like that should be forced to lift those restrictions. Discussion is healthy.
/r/askTRP31/01/20 08:23 PM
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Well people do say those awful things as it turns out. Reddit used to be full of users who were openly racist like that. Coontown is a proud example of that. Sounds like you're admitting it's hate speech but are trying to discredit me by saying it doesn't happen, when it actually does.
/r/askTRP31/01/20 06:24 PM
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Cool strawman, where is that going on and why not separate yourself from it? That's not the point. I was giving an example for something that is considered hate speech, without a doubt. I don't agree with censoring opposition and censorship based on politics but there's a definitely a difference between that and putting others down for their race and background
/r/askTRP31/01/20 05:38 PM
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So joking about lynching niggers and pushing black people out of your community is friendly banter? There's definitely a line between distasteful banter and outright hate filled bigotry
/r/askTRP31/01/20 05:01 PM
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They can freely make find another platform. Reddit just doesn't have to adhere to them
/r/MensRights31/01/20 04:54 PM
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Yep. Echochambers are absolutely toxic and should be crushed into a fine paste. No sub should silence people for disagreeing with their ideologies. This includes Reddit itself and their ban-happy behavior
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 04:50 PM
1

I completely agree. I became a changed man when I finally got my first relationship. That validation and being intimate with someone is crucial for your wellbeing. People who say other wise truly don't know how bad it is for those who've never been loved
/r/seduction31/01/20 03:37 AM
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The point is, this thread isn't about you. You came in here just to put someone down and tell them their problems don't matter. Like I said, your struggles don't invalidate someone else's struggles. I acknowledge women have it easier. But that doesn't mean they don't experience heartbreak and rejection either, even if it's less than you
/r/seduction30/01/20 11:56 PM
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Like I said, it's still a struggle and girls don't just get boyfriends out of thin air. It takes a while to find a man they have strong feelings for to begin with. Why else are you rejected so much if girls would get into a relationship like nothing? Girls don't just fall for any guy. The guys they like also have a lot of women wanting them as well. These men have a ton of options. A lot of girls can go months without a relationship. It's hard for them to find what they want. What you're saying …
/r/seduction30/01/20 09:30 PM
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Actually no. Desirable guys are highly sought after. There's a lot of competition for girls. And to catch feelings for a guy who doesn't like you back still hurts like hell regardless of how many other guys you can attract. You may say she could still easily have sex with him. But if he really did just want her for sex, what girl would want to be seen as just his fuck toy? Girls probably have it easier than guys but they still struggle and their problems are valid. Sure the least attractive guys…
/r/seduction30/01/20 06:40 PM
1

No you're just assholes. You trivialize other peoples struggles based on their gender. Find another place where you can be as toxic as you want. You're not welcome here
/r/seduction30/01/20 05:44 PM
1

Question: What do you do leading up to the date?
/r/seduction30/01/20 05:31 PM
2

Aight
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 12:33 AM
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If it were an anonymous survey, the surveyor wouldn't know who the responses belong to. Most researchers know conducting social research where the surveyor knows the individuals responses are inaccurate and ineffective. It's likely it was a survey where the participant simply hit checkboxes in privacy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:49 PM
1

Ever so slightly more. Not enough to support the reasoning that guys should expect their women to cheat on them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:32 PM
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Also here's a study listing preferences. It shows that women have a much lower thresh hold for what they consider cheating than men, such as more women considering an online relationship cheating than men. That seems to at least support that cheating is much more taboo to women: https://web.archive.org/web/20190216103711/https://www.trustify.info/blog/infidelity-statistics-2018
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:30 PM
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It depends on how the survery was conducted of course, but why would people willingly participate in a survey just to lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:16 PM
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It still tells you that there are more men that cheat than women. The common belief here is that for males, only high value men cheat, and for women, the majority of them do. This data contradicts that and shows the average man can worry less about being cheated on than the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:47 PM
0

An anonymous survey
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:28 PM
1

Brad Pitt is still very attractive and still gets casted in major roles
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:59 PM
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They get matches mostly from low value men who are desperate. They are not the majority of men. The desirable men they match with have other options and don't need to settle for them aside from shallow hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:55 PM
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Actually men are significantly more likely to cheat than women and the rate increases with age https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:20 PM
1

Christ these are some cynical dudes. Millions of men have had a great relationship with women they loved with all their heart. The world has it's problems, of course, but it's not as bleak as you think. Seems like this place has been overrun with blackpillers ever since their subreddits were banned
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:17 PM
2

Also I managed to hear back from the dud convo girl and we have a date this saturday
/r/seduction08/01/20 03:54 AM
2

I do wanna say though I really appreciate the feedback. You've honestly given me the answer I was looking for and I feel a lot more confident messaging girls
/r/seduction08/01/20 02:36 AM
1

I try that but they usually scream at the top of their lungs for help. I don't want drama like that in my relationship
/r/seduction08/01/20 12:07 AM
2

I see what you're saying. So you wanna target her emotionally rather than just asking her a question where she gives a basic one word answer
/r/seduction07/01/20 06:43 PM
1

Thanks for the feedback. I have one question: When you say questions about her, do you mean specifically about who she is? Instead of just asking generic things like what's your major, where are you from, what do you do for fun etc. For example she has a photo of her in a dessert Arizona, would I say something along the lines of "I love that picture of arizona seems like you're a very outdoorsy person. What other cool trips have you been on?"
/r/seduction07/01/20 06:07 PM
3

How would you open on insta?
/r/seduction07/01/20 06:16 AM
2

Just because your dating life is shit doesn't mean you know anything about dating
/r/seduction05/01/20 05:58 AM
1

Very good advice. Small question though. Do i ask questions about what is going on in their profile and how they feel about that? Eg. "I see you like to go hiking. do you prefer easygoing, peaceful hikes through the woods, or do you like the more intensive hikes up mountains?"
/r/seduction03/01/20 06:55 PM
1

Okay I live in miami
/r/seduction03/01/20 06:01 AM
1

So light kino is off limits too? Like hand holding, touching her arm after a joke or emphasizing a point, guiding her
/r/seduction03/01/20 04:42 AM
2

I'm 26. Admittingly I live in a very expensive city so many people my age still live at home. I wouldn't have a problem going to their place though. Although I admit I've never done that.
/r/seduction03/01/20 04:01 AM
2

Fuck it. Shoot your shot bro
/r/seduction03/01/20 03:04 AM
1

We touch, hold hands, I'll have my arm over their shoulder. Things like that. Sometimes we'll make out too
/r/seduction03/01/20 02:49 AM
1

It's possible I'm not as good looking irl compared to profile pics
/r/seduction03/01/20 01:27 AM
4

It's sort of just the lingo here. it's short for kinesthetic approach. I guess we just use kino because it's more simple to say
/r/seduction02/01/20 08:11 PM
2

physical contact
/r/seduction02/01/20 07:46 PM
6

Okay here's a rundown of the last date i had: Met a girl a tea shop who I had been talking on the phone with. She seemed very interested leading up to the date. Would ask me to call her. Then on the date she still seemed invested and would ask if I wanted to paint with her. I would tease her, listen to her, ask questions all that good stuff. I got a little physical here in there but not too far. She said she was a Christian girl who likes to take it slow and explicitly told me she doesn't want t…
/r/seduction02/01/20 07:35 PM
6

I guess I could try hooking up. A little difficult for me though since i live with my mom and haven't graduated yet
/r/seduction02/01/20 07:20 PM
8

That's not a bad idea actually. How would you open them?
/r/seduction02/01/20 07:09 PM
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I'm not needy at all and I always try to tease and be fun in texting. I always make sure to have a present mindset where I'm not trying to make something happen and I'm simply living in the moment. I escalate physically and sometimes makeout but I don't try to force it or have it on my mind. I ask a lot of questions but I also chip in with my own thoughts and try not to make it seem like an interview. Maybe I don't look as good in real life as I do in my profile pictures. Granted, I'm not really…
/r/seduction02/01/20 06:44 PM
1

Okay. Small question though: how do I kiss her when were out in public? She says she doesn't like PDA. Do I say fuck it and kiss her anyway, or take her somewhere private? I also don't really know somewhere private I can take her when were out in public like that
/r/seduction31/12/19 04:30 PM
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Okay I'll give you a rundown of the last date I had. Met a girl a tea shop who I had been talking on the phone with. She seemed very interested leading up to the date. Would ask me to call her. Then on the date she still seemed invested and would ask if I wanted to paint with her. I would tease her, listen to her, ask questions all that good stuff. I got a little physical here in there but not too far. She said she was a Christian girl who likes to take it slow and explicitly told me she doesn't…
/r/seduction31/12/19 02:20 AM
1

So join clubs and things like that?
/r/seduction31/12/19 02:01 AM
1

So how would you recommend I meet girls outside of online dating?
/r/seduction31/12/19 01:53 AM
1

They send it to me. They would initiate a lot
/r/seduction31/12/19 12:28 AM
1

Problem is I meet the girl in a public place and it's hard to find somewhere private to make out
/r/seduction31/12/19 12:25 AM
1

I always physically escalate to some degree, and I do attempt to makeout when the emotions are high. sometimes we kiss, sometimes we don't
/r/seduction31/12/19 12:25 AM
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Not even. The golden timespan is two days after suggesting the date. This way you give her little time to prep for it, but there isn't enough for the excitement you gave her to cool down. Waiting even a week for a date is a pain in the ass. You have to babysit and text her to keep her interested, but not too much. It wasn't uncommon for a date to flake if I was seeing her much later in the week. The little texts you send aren't enough for her to invest you in the long term, in many cases
/r/seduction23/12/19 06:28 AM
3

You have no relationship experience to begin with. How can you possibly feel like you know more about dating than us?
/r/seduction23/12/19 06:21 AM
4

Bang on. I think that's what OP meant. Not simply interest
/r/seduction20/12/19 06:54 AM
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/r/seduction18/12/19 03:45 PM
2

Good advice. I'll try it
/r/seduction11/12/19 02:59 AM
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What if it was something fairly minor like leaving a date earlier to catch up with school deadlines assigned at the last minute and she still felt terrible about and apologized profusely for?
/r/seduction11/12/19 02:42 AM
1

Gotta build attraction to see her in person first my dude
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:48 AM
1

So keep the pressure and don't back pedal basically
/r/seduction30/11/19 12:00 AM
1

At the heart of it, yeah, you should be yourself. I know push/pull is a powerful technique that helps create attraction though. But I guess there's ways to do that are more congruent with your personality instead of a suave dickface that's nothing like you
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:21 PM
1

Possibly. I guess it's a numbers game and some girls just won't get it no matter how many shit eating grin emojis you use
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:17 PM
1

So when I do this I should tease AND flirt so it's more obvious that I'm not serious
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:12 PM
2

How do you get a conversation sexual like that?
/r/seduction29/11/19 09:29 AM
1

So it's matter of using witty, well thought out lines? What if you can't think on your feet like that for shit?
/r/seduction29/11/19 08:35 AM
1

What about the escalation ladder? Should I actively get physical or just let things play out naturally?
/r/seduction23/11/19 04:00 PM
1

So the environment doesn't matter and I should just go for it?
/r/seduction16/10/19 04:13 AM
6

A lot of girls don't like kissing publicly. How do I go about getting her somewhere private?
/r/seduction16/10/19 01:25 AM
2

The whole talking to other girls thing
/r/seduction15/10/19 08:51 PM
14

You'd be more of a man to deal with the loneliness when you're single than do shit behind her back like that
/r/seduction15/10/19 08:46 PM
1

That's really good advice actually. I do seem to have those natural and flowing messages when I start writing as soon as I see the message. I think I'll do that more. Of course I won't reply straight away
/r/seduction28/09/19 05:22 PM
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r/wowthanksimcured
/r/seduction10/09/19 04:51 AM
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