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so men created washers and dryers Correct So men created dish washers Actually, a woman invented the dishwasher. So men created automated roomba vacuum cleaners Much of the work that went into iRobot was done by Helen Greiner, a woman with a Bachelor of Mech engineering who fiddled around with machinery a lot. So men created services that allow groceries or prepared meals to be delivered straight to your house I don't know if there was one 'creator' for this phenomenon. It might have been a rand…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:30 PM
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I think her comment had its desired effect. It highlights the unreasonableness of broad generalisations. When you saw ' Women are insanely lazy. If she’s unwilling to do chores, then dump her,' you were fine with sweeping generalisations; but when the same sweeping generalisation was made with men as the subject, only then did you point out how unreasonable and inaccurate generalisations can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:15 PM
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That's what girlfriends are for. Emotional support. Dudes don't really need give emotional support, so they'd just tell their buddy to either leave or stop fuckin bitching. This makes more sense if you change 'need' to 'give'. Men in relationships tend to become dependent on female partners for emotional support, because other men are unlikely to give it - but that doesn't mean emotional support isn't needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:09 PM
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Okay so by your logic, if a man is doing hard labour and the woman is doing a cushy office job, it's fine then for the household chores to be split 50/50 right? Both are members of the household, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 03:39 PM
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The same thing happened to me when I worked in hospitality! As soon as I took up an office job I returned to a normal weight but it can actually be pretty hard to maintain one when you're on your feet all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 03:37 PM
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"Just be your usual self" should be accompanied with what is her supposed "usual self" is so she has a chance to be married. I think in general "just be your usual self" is the best advice. If someone is changing their "usual self" to attract a partner, then their partner is falling for someone that isn't real. They're not marrying the girl they think they are, but someone else, and once they're married and the honeymoon phase is over, the girl will stop trying to impress him and start to be her…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:15 AM
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I think maybe the question's a bit confusing. It can be interpreted as "What would you tell a friend, who only began a relationship yesterday, but who has already been proposed to?" when the question is really "What would you advise a friend that likes her new boyfriend so much she wants to get him to marry her?" The first question, for women especially, might set off alarm bells. Some people might interpret that short time frame as a warning sign; why would a man propose so early into the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:09 AM
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What I find interesting is that there are 59 people who prefer traditional relationship arrangements, despite there being 62 red pillers and plenty more leaning red. I would've thought that number, the 59, would be higher, seeing as the majority of survey takers are either red or leaning red.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 02:58 AM
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Agreed, but it's surprisingly (or maybe not so surprisingly) common online. If you ask a heap of random people on discord what their type is, if they know it at all, quite a few of them will answer INTP. And if you, for the hell of it, decide to visit a forum the polls usually show a pretty high concentration of INTPs and INTJs. I think it's because INTP types are just inherently more introspective, so if someone knows at all what MBTI is and hangs around on the internet a lot it wouldn't be sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 02:51 AM
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Yes but what if the pizza vendor has a long ass line? Just because someone prefers pizza doesn't mean they won't eat a sandwich. They might even like sandwiches, they just like pizzas more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 02:46 PM
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Never used it so wasn't sure, but the comment seemed to offer a good explanation. Thanks for clarifying :) Maybe OkC's rating system has changed since it conducted its study? Or has it been like that the entire time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 02:40 AM
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All I'm saying is that both genders clearly have preferences and it seems hypocritical for one sex, whether it's male or female, to call the other out for having those preferences. I'm not saying men are the only hypocritical ones. Men call women shallow all the time; but women also constantly say they're being objectified. Neither sex likes being reduced to his or her superficial, surface features, but unfortunately that's just how humans are. All I'm saying is that it's harsh for someone who p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:30 AM
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I don't think the word 'patriarchy' is meaningless, though it might be an inaccurate descriptor for much of the anglosphere. There are many cultures where patriarchy is definitely still an issue, and I'm not just talking about Middle Eastern or Asian countries, I'm talking Europe as well. In terms of gender equality women living in the US/UK/CA/AU/NZ are incredibly fortunate, because they have opportunities thrown their way. Just because patriarchy doesn't accurately describe the situation we're…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:50 PM
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Yeah I don't disagree with you there, younger women's tastes probably are more adaptable. Despite that it's still a bit strage to me if someone thinks it's fine to have a 'type' of girl he likes and then turn around and criticise women for preferring taller men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:29 PM
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I don't think anyone would ever call that wrong, not even your most radical feminists. Do you have a chance with her? We'll never know, because you didn't approach her. As other commenters have noted, everyone has different preferences and some women prefer an average height guy with a good sense of humour over a tall guy with none. Not every tall woman goes for guys shorter than her (and you're a perfectly good height by the way, she's just a very, very tall woman) but I really can't think of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 02:13 PM
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I think it's more the "if she turns you down for your height, you've dodged a bullet" comment. Men don't turn women down if they're short, but men have preferences as well. It's not unfair for women to have preferences. So as concacanca said, it can be pretty myopic to think someone's a waste of time just because they know their preferences and stick to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 02:08 PM
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Is the 'highest level of education' the highest you've completed, or the highest you're completing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 04:14 AM
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It's a subjective question though. Some optimistic people probably don't realise they're optimistic, because they're used to the world being a positive place. Likewise I'd say quite a few pessimistic people view themselves as realistic. They're so used to the pessimism they think that the worst case scenario is a realistic and probable scenario. If what you and Krispy are saying is right and optimistic people live in a bubble, they probably wouldn't realise they're optimistic and just say they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 04:13 AM
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You might have a point but the actual rating system of Okcupid should be taken into account, too. This commenter theorises that men are only getting such low average ratings because the study counts 'skips' as 0s. You need to understand how OkC gathers their data for things like this. For their attractiveness scale, they use what they get from the "quick match" section of the site. What users see is a picture of the guy and a small portion of his profile. They have the option to rate him 1-5 sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 03:48 AM
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Overall, men rated themselves higher in self-perceived attractiveness (M = 3.35) than did women (M = 2.56;* t(157) = 3.48, *p = .0007). It is notable that whereas only 2 males gave themselves the lowest self-perceived attractiveness rating on the scale, 14 females rated themselves that low (see Figures 2 and 3). These findings are consistent with past studies that report that men tend to overestimate their attractiveness I think it's a combination of men overestimating their attractiveness and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 02:36 PM
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There's no rape or killing or violence to defend against. Law enforcement isn't going to bust down the door of an American Herbivore man and charge him with not chasing women. Firstly, yes, there are many herbivore men in Japan. That doesn't mean it doesn't have an issue with sexual predators. Japan has this phenomenon called 'chikan', where men grope women on crowded trains, often without consequences, not because the men are herbivores, but because the women don't want to be called liars. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 01:04 PM
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haha I have nothing to contribute but thank you for putting in words something that's been nagging at the back of my head since I first read this post. Can't be AWALT and nAWALT at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 04:03 AM
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I'm happy to hear you didn't have to give up your education for your freedom, and also happy to hear you've reconciled with your parents. Hopefully they've changed a little bit and realised you're an adult now and have the autonomy to make your own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 03:59 AM
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What will happen is that she will grow to resent you and move out as soon as possible. She might even forego her education to do so; instead of getting an expensive, high interest student loan she might start working as a cashier just to make enough money to rent a shady apartment, as long as she's not living with a parent that gives her absolutely no privacy and no personal freedom. And once she's out of your house, you'll no longer have control over her. Policing your daughter like that might …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:47 AM
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Yep completely agree. It's also better to have an advisory relationship with children rather than authoritarian because it fosters a closer household in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:43 AM
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Yeah I'm not contesting that, it's more the 'allow' thing. It's just not possible to completely control your kids, and even if you somehow manage to do so through her teen years, once your daughter grows up, into her own woman, she won't listen to you anymore. She'll be out of your house, out of your sight, and it'll be harder to keep tabs on her. If she's been raised in a way that sex has always been this mysterious, tantalising thing out of her reach she'll probably go full crazy for it once s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:40 AM
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But why would he tell? If he feels like the bond is close enough he can share, that's completely fair, but it seems like a random thing to tell someone. "oh honey look at that bed head!" "yeah, by the way I have hair transplants". It's something that probably wouldn't matter to most people unless you yourself act like it's something that should matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:34 AM
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Honestly though the more you forbid someone from doing something the more they'll want to do it. Like the Catholic schoolgirl phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:32 AM
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Fair point but you're generalising there, not all Chinese women are from poor families. Even if they are, they can make good wives. My mother probably married by father partly for Australian citizenship but she's the most dedicated wife in the world, and they've been in a loving relationship for about 30 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:19 AM
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So are you opposed to dating mainland Chinese women or are you also opposed to dating American born Chinese women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 02:40 AM
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I think the issue you'll find is that a woman who's treated like crap is very happy to drop the man for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:51 PM
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The validity of the first quote is challenged because if you're basing your understanding of American culture off purple or red pill subs, or any other similar forums on the internet, you're being misled. These subs are filled with men who've had bad experiences with women and bond through those experiences. RP can be good in that it encourages men to improve themselves, and it can be good in that it offers them some kind of support when they're feeling crap. Other than that though I think much …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:48 PM
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There's a study on the effect of FGM on female sexuality. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1016/S0968-8080(10)36535-9 Though the women frequently mentioned that they “felt cold during sexual relations”, “had no satisfaction out of sex” or “had pain during sex” both in the interviews and focus groups, they did not indicate that this distressed them. Rather, they said they bore with this as a marital duty and fulfilment of religious obligations. Some also said their husbands had said they m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:37 PM
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A woman who takes care of all household duties does so because she relies solely on her husband for finances. If she also contributes to the household finances, then the husband should help take care of the household duties. A woman who needs to tell her partner to help is like a husband needing to tell his wife to work. But working mothers and working wives go to work on their own, like adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:20 PM
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I don't think anyone wants to close any doors at 18, so don't be too hard on yourself. It sounds like you're doing great now, and I hope you do even better in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 10:01 AM
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When I was 18 I was working under minimum wage at a Chinese restaurant because I wanted to move out. My boss had a sharp tongue and I had to listen to her yell every night. Looking back, that seems kind of a silly thing to be stressed about, but it was pretty stressful all the same. Likewise, to an 18 year old, failing a maths exam might seem like the end of the world. Some might have this kind of thought process: Don't understand homework --> Fail exam --> Bad marks --> Don't get into good coll…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 09:47 AM
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You're right of course, being a mother is an exceptionally important role and has an immeasurable impact on someone's life. But a lot of it involves cooking and cleaning. There's obviously a lot more to it than that, but there are different types of tedious; there's sitting at your desk all day and staring at a screen, and then there's cleaning up after everyone all day. Different people prefer different types of tedious. Personally I'd rather sit in front of a computer all day than cook and cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 09:39 AM
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Is that possible though? Correct me if I'm wrong, I just thought the AF/BB dynamic was limited to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:36 AM
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There are different types of prestige though, and you've said it yourself, women love social validation. (Men do too though.) They can get it at home from their husbands, sure, but an appreciative husband is pretty rare, and even appreciative husbands can't compliment much other than his wife's cooking and cleaning skills. So a wife is limited, mostly, to those two things: cooking and cleaning. A woman out in the public sphere can garner so much more admiration and respect than a woman confined …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:26 AM
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I don't think it's just semantics. Electra_Cute might be struggling with something at work at the moment, as well as some things in his/her personal life, but who doesn't struggle with those things? The last time many of us were truly, blissfully happy was when we were children, and even then we probably had worries. It's possible to have moments of immense pride and satisfaction even when you're stressed or unhappy. It might be due to the very fact that you're powering through a tough situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:01 AM
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If most men aren't "accomplishing much", then by which standard are they "useless to society"? If someone's unemployed and living off welfare, they're a drain on society. What society? Society as a whole. Men and women. Nobody ever said society was just comprised of women, where are you even getting that? Sum_fries_wit_dat's first point was that being a productive member of society is a good thing, and that these days women are, on average, more consistently becoming productive members of societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 05:21 AM
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the biggest reason for divorce is money Do you have a source for that? I'm not attacking, I'm genuinely curious because I'd like to read about it. I agree that men put up with women letting their looks go; but women also put up with men letting their looks go. The main thing men and women bring to marriage is not their looks. That's not what marriage is about. Marriage is about family, stability and comfort. No matter how much you or I dislike it, money is a big part of stability, and it's natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 03:51 AM
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Women initiate divorce more often over money Is this anecdotal? I can't find a good source. Either way, if this is true, I don't think it proves that women only love men for 'what they can do for them'. After marriage, and after having children, women's focus shifts to their children. If a husband is squandering money, through some kind of gambling or drinking addiction, a woman might feel that it's necessary to remove herself and her children from that kind of environment. I don't think she sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 04:45 AM
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And just to add onto your point - though tanned skin is regarded as 'healthy' and 'attractive' in Western societies today, it's the opposite in most East Asian countries. So while no sane person would be using lead powder anymore, there are still many people who use skin lightening creams in other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 08:45 AM
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Well, a woman isn't going to go looking for emotional support when she's had a good experience, only when she's had a negative experience, so I've only ever heard negative experiences. I can't really give an unbiased answer. Maybe it's pretty common? My impression is that it's pretty rare, especially when the man is in his early to mid 20's. He's overflowing with testosterone and doesn't want to settle down just yet. Chances are he's more focused on his own pleasure than his partner's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 02:21 AM
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No, women really do want to fix broken men. It's not faked. I'm sure many have ulterior motives for doing so - they want the undying love and affection, and gratitude, that comes with it. To a woman, the rationale is that if a man feels indebted to you he'll be loyal. But I wouldn't say all, or even most, women are looking for drama. Drama and adventure are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 12:01 AM
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I don't think women ever get into proper relationships wanting them to end. What they want is gratitude. They get into relationships with damaged men hoping to become their salvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 11:58 PM
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and that fits so well into what he's saying - the best way to attract women is to work on improving your life.
/r/seduction27/03/18 10:18 AM
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If you're talking about overweight people, that's a different story, but what's wrong with using more realistic portrayals of men and women's bodies in the media?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 01:27 AM
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You could apply those descriptors equally to attractive, masculine men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 01:25 PM
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Maybe. I think the main thing that scares some women off is that many RPers are men who have had bad experiences with, and harbour resentment towards, women. Not all, but many, and it's resulted in TRP having a bit of a misogynistic slant to it. It's logical for a woman to be deterred in that kind of situation. Asking a woman to accept TRP is like asking a black person to accept Darwinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:08 PM
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It's a lose-lose situation when meeting someone with that perspective though. If a woman reacts badly to essentially being called 'inferior', then that reinforces the RP view that she's immature and inferior. If she accepts being called inferior, then she probably has self esteem issues and shouldn't be dating someone who's likely to, whether deliberately or not, exacerbate that. TRP is fine as a means of self improvement. I've met a few men who have admitted to being RPers - it's a supportive c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:49 PM
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I dunno I think most girls can be quite sensitive about their music tastes. Don't tease them unless you already know them pretty well. It's likely to make them clam up more than anything, because opening up about music tastes can really make people feel vulnerable - even the slightest bit of teasing could hurt.
/r/seduction08/10/17 08:47 AM
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In that situation she's passive, though. Maybe she wants to be proactive - instead of a random guy, maybe she wants to seduce/attract a guy she likes. Maybe she wants to score a goal instead of being the goal.
/r/seduction20/09/17 12:16 PM
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I guess it really depends on the crowd you hang with. I'm the opposite, most of the people I know tend to be the types who geek out over things together and go out together for food. They rarely, if ever, go out clubbing - it just doesn't interest them. If the only girls you're finding are party girls, it's probably not you so much as your environment. There must be some kind of gaming club at your college, or some kind of running club or tech club. (Is there? Not sure how it works in the US. In…
/r/seduction20/09/17 12:11 PM
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