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Would you describe my build as a sleeper build, an average build, or neither, out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:44 PM
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I'd say I look roughly like Penn Badgely in You Season 5, plus ~10lb extra bulk and a baby face. If you spliced Penn Badgely and Adam Driver, I'm somewhere in that camp. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:28 AM
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That tends to be super lean men with baggy clothing. Only way I could have a sleeper build at 20% bodyfat at 5'10" 180lb and a 300lb x 5 deadlift is if I took compound V. Many women's standards are just warped. They'll say they want a guy whose "lightly toned" and then send a pic of a guy who benches 2 plates for reps at 16% bodyfat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:22 AM
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True, but even then many people's perception is distorted. I have enough strength to deadlift 300lb for a set of 5 while also being at 20% bodyfat. The average guy you see on a typical day out cannot do that and likely has more bodyfat too, yet I get described as having an "average build".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:07 AM
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But they can't, there's only so many of those men and most people are monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:04 AM
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This cuts both ways though. I've seen many threads where the OP expresses frustration that he's healthy, fit, owns his home, has a good job, hobbies and friends and he gets a bunch of comments calling him bare minimum. I deadlifting 300 for a set of 5 a few weeks ago, yet men with my physique are described as average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:01 AM
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Honestly, I feel less hope when it feels like I'm chucking message in a bottles into the ocean. Currently, I'm coping by saying that maybe my profile is simply buried under the Penn Badgelys, Adonises, and Henry Cavils of the world. But I can never actually be sure unless I saw the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:40 PM
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Honestly, if we're going to have online dating algorithms that drastically increase the visibility of the most popular profiles, it genuinely might be better to show everyone their profile's swipe right/left percentage. At least then they wouldn't feel unattractive if their profile is effectively shadowbanned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:33 PM
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How do you know that, did you know these particular women 10 years ago? I can understand being bitter toward a particular woman who rejected you previously yet now wants you. I'm not sure why you're putting yourself in this box. If a woman isn't attracted to you, you stay single. If a woman is attracted to you, you claim she wouldn't want to be with you 10 years ago, reject her, and still stay single. And of course, there's many women that had glowups themselves that you wouldn't have looked at …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:36 PM
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OP feels like the type who uses LinkedIn every day and "rise and grinds".
/r/seduction26/03/26 09:38 PM
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I'm body dysmorphic as fuck so I can't judge if I have this. But what are your lifts and measurements? I guess what I'm asking is if I'm 5'10" and have enough strength to do 295lb x 5 deadlifts at 20% bodyfat, do I have enough underlying muscle for what you describe?
/r/seduction20/03/26 07:41 PM
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Actually, a lot of blue pillers say not to go to the gym because "women don't like big muscles", "women like dadbods", or "muscles are for attracting men, not women". Meanwhile, the covers for romance novels look like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:57 PM
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The title is dumb. I think a better statement is that if a woman finds 95% of her dating pool unattractive, it's not because those 95% are ugly or don't put enough effort in. When men have this behavior, we tell them to lay off the porn if they're struggling to be attracted to real women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:25 AM
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Probably not a virgin, but he does take meth and a boatload of PED's. Apparently he's looking into limb lengthing surgery so he can be 6'5" instead of 6'2" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:36 PM
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It's his screen name, not his real name.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:33 PM
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Their argument seems to be similar to what people say about men who are addicted to porn and struggle to be attracted to real women's bodies. Eg. She sees her body as having average fitness but her idea of an average man's body is a guy with significantly more muscle than actual average men. And that anyone without that amount of muscle is below the bare minimum. It's kind of like when men say they prefer women without makeup, but the example they provide of a "natural look" is a woman who is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:29 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:57 PM
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He wasn't bringing up money to imply sex is transactional, but to point out that some have an easier time than others because of luck or circumstances. Frame size, bodyfat distribution, height, BMR, facial structure, male pattern baldness, skin type, protein synthesis relative to training (some people genuinely do build muscle faster than others even if everything else is equal), etc all play a role in attractiveness. Doesn't mean one can't glow up, but some will have an easier time than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:51 PM
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He means getting down to 12% bodyfat to appeal to women. 12% for women is similar to like 4% for me, it's dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:18 PM
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I have a theory that the emphasis on beauty standards that have been placed on women cause them to have empathy for other women (especially when she is putting in effort), and thus rate them more favorably. Bisexual women are often the voice of reason in these discussions since they're looking at both sexes through a relatively similar range.
/r/BlackPillScience28/12/25 07:11 PM
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Hemsworth is on a boatload of steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:27 AM
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Professional and olympic athletes often take PED's. Not everyone who takes then looks like The Rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:21 AM
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Or when women single out men for things that women equally struggle with, namely physical fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:16 AM
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High standards are fine, just make sure your physical standards haven't been warped by social media, porn, or dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:14 AM
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Imo, the traditionally high expectations placed on women's bodies, grooming, and fashion gives them a huge amount of empathy for other women. Many see insulting other women as carrying water for the patriarchy or just being a huge asshole in general. But when looking at men, they're more likely to specifically evaluate physical attraction. Bisexual women often end up being the source of reason in these discussions, as they're looking at each gender with relatively similar lenses. To some extent,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:13 AM
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Personally, I think women's bodies tend to distribute fat more elegantly than men, which gives them some leeway that men don't really have (unless muscular enough to be a "dadbod"). A man with 22% bodyfat often has a muffin top, a woman with 32% (rough equivalent as women have higher levels of essential fat) often does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:09 AM
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Yep, it's the same thing with gym bros. People ask why every dude in their swipe stack lifts weights and say women don't like muscle and/or prefer dadbods, but the reason you're seeing these men is because other people like them.
/r/seduction04/12/25 03:40 AM
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I can believe this, not even just for nefarious reasons (he's looking to cheat). Men are less accustomed to wearing jewelry in general and wearing a ring while lifting weights is a great way to break a finger (or the ring).
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 06:17 PM
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I actually agree with you on point 2, but that mainly only applies if slightly overweight. A man at 22% bodyfat is often rocking a muffin top, while many women at 32% (women have more essential fat) often will not have one. But 313 pounds is far from that. If you were a woman and the same height/weight, a theoretically better bodyfat distribution will not be much, if any, help.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 05:46 PM
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My feet are very prone to developing extra skin that gets dry and cracked (especially in the crease between my big toe and the balls of my feet) maybe an adaptation from swimming and running barefoot on the pool decks as a kid, the best gift I ever received was an electric filer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:02 PM
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They really thought she was ~Norman~ Morgan Bates
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:31 PM
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I'm of the opinion that women tend to carry weight better than men because the weight is spread over a larger area or goes to places like the hips, thighs, breasts and butt. Women also have much more fashion options to dress to their body type. While for men, our extra weight goes straight to the stomach, love handles, and low back. Many women at 30% bodyfat can look relatively lean and/or curvy while men at 22% bodyfat (equivalent on the charts) almost always have a muffin top.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:51 PM
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There's roughly equal amounts of overweight men and women across all age groups. I do think that men's bodyfat distribution favoring the stomach/love handles does affect them disproportionately though. If you're really seeing a lot more overweight men than women, either you live in a Russian oligarchs neighborhood or your perception is warped.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:29 PM
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If I could have anyone's voice, it would be his.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:26 PM
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Also, a lot of people who actually did/do take PED's will lie and say it was all TRT.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/25 06:08 PM
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Even among those men, many have narrow shoulders, large hips, and may store even more of their fat there than typical. High muscle mass can offset this and cause the waist to appear slimmer, but very few have high muscle mass.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/25 02:41 PM
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Part of it is because men's bodyfat distribution tends to heavily favor the stomach and love handles, so a crop top would look less flattering.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 01:32 AM
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Yes, but the standards (the amount of muscle mass in combination of leanness) are tougher to reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:55 PM
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The problem is that the algorithms that dating apps have heavily shifted over the years. In the past, the apps would show people that I felt like I'd see day to day or week to week. But in more recent years, the apps seem to drastically overrepresent insta models.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:29 PM
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I agree that catering to everyone is pointless, but if there's overlap and it's healthier regardless, then they should still do it. I've made a similar transformation as the guy in the link (I went from 214lbs to 194lbs, although not with Chipotle, lmao). I sleep better, breathe better, move better, have less back pain, sweat less, and no longer snore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:15 PM
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What if the weight was the reason you weren't attracted to him? Let me put it this way. Would you say that a man who loses 20lbs would be considered more attractive or less attractive by women as a whole? Not you specifically. If you were to show women this and ask them if he looks better before (at an obese 30%) or after (at a healthy but slightly overweight 22%), which do you think will win out? Unless the answer is a tie, then there is at least some overlap in their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:56 PM
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There is always at least some overlap in traits, even if not the men themselves. For example, if a man loses 20lbs and goes from 25% to 15% bodyfat, a larger % of women will find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:41 PM
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Yeah, if you extend the age range to 35, things even out considerably, even further than that if you go to 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:45 PM
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You had all of these economic rights 20+ years ago. Hell, it was arguably easier back then due to lower cost of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:52 PM
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Agreed, arguably it was easier for women to be independent 20 years ago than today due to lower cost of living, yet these trends have become drastically worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:49 PM
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Men and women are more or less equally overweight/obese, but otherwise, you are correct.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/25 09:29 PM
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I have a girlfriend now, but back when I was on the apps (I left them in September/October), I picked liberal for political affiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:29 PM
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I'm progressive, and getting dates on the apps was still like pulling teeth. I wager there were other progressive men that women preferred to me. Red pilled men would not be "getting laid tomorrow" if they were progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:06 PM
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~44% of women who voted picked Trump. Hell, the majority of white women who voted voted for Trump. Women are liberal relative to men, but honestly, not by much overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:48 PM
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Maybe they did, but they didn't know how to ask or initiate one. Or they were worried that you'd feel as though they forced you into a kiss or that they were one of those "where's my hug" type of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:33 PM
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I saw that episode, and that man was a train wreck in general. She made the right call breaking up with him regardless of whether he's straight or bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:18 AM
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If you don't want to listen to moral arguments, listen to this one: a huge chunk of Forensic Files episodes are about love triangles.
/r/seduction06/06/25 06:56 PM
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You're describing narcissistic women, not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:34 PM
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Men with "athletic bodies" also lift weights at the gym. They just tend to place less emphasis on lifting heavier and heavier weights after they have enough functional strength and more on cardio, conditioning, and calisthenics. But you're not looking like those guys with just bodyweight exercises and cardio unless you have a LOT of time.
/r/seduction21/05/25 07:49 PM
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Don't get tats just to attract women, get them if you want them. Do hit the gym though, there's a lot of benefits even outside dating and attraction.
/r/seduction21/05/25 07:45 PM
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True, but it definitely depends on fit and tailoring. Still though, the guy on the right is pretty much always going to look better in clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:38 PM
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Depends on the fit of the shirt. A shirt that's trimmer on the stomach will show off his V taper
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:34 PM
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I believe parents tend to get more worked up over their daughters' dating due to risks of them being harmed, manipulated and/or becoming pregnant. It has little to do with perceptions of having sex with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:09 PM
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Alcohol withdrawal can kill too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:10 PM
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That's not kosher, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:26 PM
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Yeah, it honestly reminds me of how many forms of a media will have a character's virtues inversely proportional to net worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:15 PM
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Either that or OP was in a relationship with a woman who did exactly what he described in the post and he's projecting that to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:31 PM
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From what you're describing, "nice guy syndrome" seems more like a manifestation of anxious attachment in many men.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/25 03:25 AM
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From my understanding, it's analogous to when women get upset at (some) men for liking exclusively porn-star or "instagram-reality" bodies. They're not telling women to settle, but that their standards are unrealistic and based on warped perceptions of what real people's bodies look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:11 PM
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When I was on dating apps, I definitely felt this worldview creeping in, although arguably, it's more true on dating apps than real life since men outnumber women by 2:1 or more. But something I had to drill into my head was this: "If dating apps were really so wonderful for women, why are they 70+% men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:03 PM
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The swamp/desert thing was from women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:47 PM
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Regarding your last point, this can be explained by a minority of men doing the vast majority of sexual assaults. Women have never argued that all men commit SA, but that some men do and that there's no way to know if a stranger is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 02:24 PM
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Are the studies broken down by age group and use of dating apps? Because there's plenty of evidence that dating apps negatively impact men's self-esteem more than women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:28 AM
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That's a pretty small gap between the sexes. Using your numbers, 73.3% of men and 68.8% of women are at least overweight. I'm not sure why you're implying weight management is something women excel at relative to men since both genders struggle about equally with it. Also, if these numbers are from BMI, additional muscle mass from weight lifting can shift many men from healthy to overweight by BMI. I'm a healthy weight by bodyfat % but overweight by BMI for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:49 PM
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True, muscle dysmorphia is incredibly common in weightlifters. If you tell someone with that not to date until they self-improved enough, they're never going to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:25 PM
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Also, the men in romance novels are almost always depicted as tall, fit, muscular, and fairly lean. Albeit, not massive like Hemsworth or The Rock, more like Sam Witwer in Bloodline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:07 PM
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Not sure about "sex eyes". I feel like men that lack socialization/struggle with eye contact would look like Dexter trying to make himself cry by staring unblinking with wide eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:03 PM
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Do you have thick enamel on your teeth? My teeth are fairly soft so brushing more than twice a day isn't really an option for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:31 PM
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What you say isn't even true for all men. I crushed pretty hard on women with similar builds to Jennifer Carpenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:20 PM
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Yeah, it's similar to a women saying "men need to lower their porn-induced physical standards" and also "I don't want to be settled for".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:10 PM
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Ah, I got you. In my case, my high school and middle school were fairly close together while my elementary school was further away. I was special assigned into both middle/high school Because of that, when I started middle school, most people in my grade had known each other since kindergarten while I went to a different elementary school. I was also pretty shy and had also stuck up for a kid that was bullied, so I was more or less an outcast for my first year of middle school before making frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:55 PM
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Yeah, high schoolers are often WAY MORE ruthless than people in their mid-20's. Middle schoolers are definitely a lot worse, though. Every teacher I've asked said they prefer to either teach elementary since they're all adorable kids or high school since they're (closer to adults). But middle school is that awkward edgy phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:47 PM
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If you're dissatisfied with your partner but stay with them for convenience while you shop for someone better, that is a conscious "they'll do for now" strategy. If you're dissatisfied, either communicate or breakup if you already have. Doesn't give you an excuse to essentially cheat in every way except physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:03 AM
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Percent wise, both genders are equally overweight in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:22 AM
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I don't since I don't know the person is this hypothetical. Eventually, the person into the hypothetical realizes whether she truly wants to be with her partner. When someone isn't even safe, safety/comfort becomes priority. When they're safe settled down with the new partner, then their actual emotional/physical/sexual needs come out. It's maslow's hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:38 PM
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I'd say it comes down to whether she finds him attractive and genuinely wants to be with him, not just because he's safe. If it's the latter, then he's being used (unintentionally) as a placeholder. She should have stayed single and healed first. I've been the placeholder before, and she ended it after 2.5 years (as well as secretly "talked" to a coworker for months) because of this. She said, "There's wanting, and then there's needing. I'm not sure I would've ended up falling in love with you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:16 PM
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Wait, what? "All men struggling with dating are either actual abusers, or 100% would be abusers if they had the opportunity to do so, even though I have no possible way of knowing that without a time machine" That's what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:18 PM
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I was raised similar to you yet struggled most of my life thus far. I eventually got a girlfriend where I paid all the house bills and half utilities/groceries, did the vast majority of the cooking, cleaning, laundry, and quite literally catered to her. She still said that she felt like mom, cheated, and left. She later said that "she wasn't sure she would've fallen in love if she didn't need me at the time." Hitting the gym and working on self-esteem made dating a bit easier, but I still strugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:51 PM
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Nah I was just being sarcastic
/r/seduction29/11/24 02:51 PM
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Maybe he brings his Gamecube controllers?
/r/seduction29/11/24 01:54 PM
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Unfortunately, almost all of the apps are primarily photo based. OkCupid used to have thousands of questions that users could answer, and it would rate their compatibility based on that, but they got rid of it soon after MatchGroup bought it. Bumble is more or less Tinder but yellow instead of orange these days. I didn't use Hinge much before I started dating my girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:49 AM
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Just make sure that you're not carrying any pre-conceived notions if he does have a mom like that. I paid the house bills, cooked, did almost all the laundry, and the sweeping/mopping as well as my fair share of almost everything else. I even made/cooked/cleaned/catered dinner in bed after her 13+ hour nursing shifts. But the few things I didn't do 50% of or wasnt as good at (cleaning bathrooms), it felt like my ex used against me and said she felt like my mom. She may have been talking mostly a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:24 PM
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I enjoy it too. Unfortunately, my ex did not. Paid the bills, did most of the chores, made her dinner after every one of her shifts, literally catered to her when she was tired after work, etc. I did gain some weight (185->210), but definitely not from being lazy and putting my feet up. Honestly, I was anxious trying to meet her needs, and it led to some stress snacking and cooking her favorites, and she didn't eat the healthiest herself. And if she had an issue with my body, she never, not once…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:57 AM
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When men/women say "Where are all the good men/women", they're not asking for a location or environment, they're expressing frustration about the quality of the men/women (if any) who are interested in them. The connotation is, "These people aren't good enough for me, I deserve better." Some people may ask where and when good men/women hang out or run errands, that's totally different to "Where are all the good X"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:14 PM
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I suppose but those are pretty obvious and eventually you're gonna be around her wearing different shoes, flip flips or bare foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:07 PM
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It wasn't equal with the implication men refuse to do their half of the chores. I did far more than my half in my last relationship in addition to paying most of the house bills. She still said she felt like my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:00 PM
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Regarding the first paragraph, a particular common yet understated reason for breakups is people letting themselves go physically. OP was giving a rebuttal to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:03 PM
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I approached my ex girlfriend and treated her well and she cheated on me. Guess I should wait for women to approach me then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:37 AM
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Isn't this assuming the men were turned off specifically because you approached them? Couldn't they have not been romantucally interested in you regardless? That being said, the men that deceive women into sex because the women approached them are dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:13 AM
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I do agree on the cheating portion as one of the major drivers of cheating is insecurity, but someone holding that level of resentment in is extremely unlikely to be able to hide that for very long. I wager a lot of shy nice men with insecurities are neurodivergent and struggle hiding their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:02 AM
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What happens if the guy gets laid off? Does he become physically unattractive to her if he's not able to provide that security to her? Because if that's true I'd rather lead with my looks. If I take care of myself and don't get hit with an act of God, I'll keep the looks. For the record I was one of those guys dating someone more attractive than himself. She cheated on and left me (I didn't get laid off or lose my job), and told me that she wasn't sure she would've fallen in love with me if she …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:41 PM
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If I had to guess, a mixture of fixing posture and fashion (clothes/patterns that create the illusion of an elongated silhouette). Beyond that the only options to get taller are becoming an astronaut or limb lengthening surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:07 PM
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He means practice, not repeatedly trying to charm someone who already turned you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:30 PM
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It's moreso the hormonal changes from taking BC than psychological.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 07:47 PM
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Most people on dating apps, both men and women, choose pictures that are from their social media accounts since they're likely the best ones they have of themselves. So she wouldn't necessarily need to be on the apps to evaluate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:52 PM
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How many guys with bad bodies put shirtless gym pics on dating apps, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:41 PM
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It's also more accepted for women to be into traditionally men's hobbies vs men being into traditionally women's. Women who play video games or listen to metal are accepted. Men who listen to Taylor Swift are assumed to be gay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:37 PM
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Especially formal wear. I've never been so jealous of women as when I was at an outdoor wedding in Florida. I felt like a sweaty lasagna.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:19 PM
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That only works if she's bisexual or lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:00 AM
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Yeah, from my experience, every time dating felt difficult, it was because she wasn't into me.
/r/seduction14/10/24 02:52 AM
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At a singles event though? I feel like a guy who goes to an event where he'd be talking to dozens of women would have to he pretty confident.
/r/seduction17/09/24 01:49 AM
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My comment got removed, but it basically said similar (I'm a man). Women factor the effort women put into their appearance when evaluating women. Similarly, men factor in the effort men put into their appearance when evaluating men. There's a reason that the phrase "weightlifting helps you attract men more than attracting women" is so popular. And also why gay men are far more likely than straight men to lift. Gay men are also more likely to be more effeminate and pay attention to similar detail…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:26 PM
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As a man, it's a mix of insecurity, ugly duckling syndrome, low self-esteem, struggles with self-validation/assurance, and getting cheated on and dumped. I guess I just miss being wanted, or more accurately, feeling like I am.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 06:47 PM
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Read that in Billy Butcher's voice.
/r/seduction23/08/24 07:43 PM
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How about this? /s
/r/seduction19/08/24 07:52 PM
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Pretty sure it's about 3:1 men vs women, not 10.
/r/seduction14/08/24 08:52 PM
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Yeah, men don't want to feel like the product of a Billy Mays infomercial. "Oh he's not attractive enough. But wait there's more! He's also good with kids. Oh you're still not interested. But wait there's more! He also has a good job..."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:59 AM
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True, but it's not really the case that women and men don't need each other to own property. Sure, it's not a legal requirement, but practically speaking, very few people can afford to buy a house all on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:25 PM
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Meh, that's a very middle and upper class viewpoint. Most young people today cannot afford to live completely alone and need roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:54 PM
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Simultaneously, men are encouraged a lot more to lift weights and go to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:03 PM
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What paper has a record of someone not being married? Tax return?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:01 PM
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Fair enough, one of the challenges I'm facing in therapy is to figure out how to protect myself emotionally while also not generalizing other women. This was my first relationship, so I have no baseline, and it's been under a year since it ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:15 PM
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I agree with that strategy and don't mind waiting, but it's also much easier to make a guy wait for sex if you don't find him attractive enough to have sex with (yet). The concern among men is that our partner/potential partner isn't truly sexually attracted to us. That we don't turn them on a primal level and their desire for us is dependent on emotional connection/butterflies in the stomach. And that someday butterflies will fade and, especially if there's a conflict, that the connection will …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:40 PM
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He's saying that a man wants his wife to find him sexy enough that if they were both single and strangers, she'd want to hook up with him. As in, his looks alone are enough for his wife to be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:28 PM
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You guys are getting 10-20 matches a day?
/r/seduction29/07/24 06:00 PM
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Needless to say, don't say this to someone doing glute kickbacks lol
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:16 AM
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True true, I also like to do cardio when I feeling burned out from weight lifting. Long walks, elliptical, and treadmill. I'd run outside, but FL July is murder.
/r/seduction21/07/24 08:48 PM
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Fair enough and lifting definitely helps with that. Just feeling demoralized since my progress slowed down a lot. So if my motivation was purely being healthy, it'd peater out since I already am strong enough to be healthy.
/r/seduction21/07/24 07:38 PM
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It's still his best bet. Ugly but confident is much more attractive than ugly and insecure.
/r/seduction21/07/24 07:14 PM
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The problem is that you don't need to be that muscular to be healthy, hence why our bodies are always working against us. So entering into it with that motivation makes it harder to progress further once the nooby gains wear off.
/r/seduction21/07/24 06:53 PM
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At least in the US, a similar % of both sexes are overweight/obese. Most gyms are majority men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:15 AM
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Are they really kicking you out, though? And isn't it a good thing that nerdom isn't something that's as frowned upon? And smash has been the party game for 20 years at this point. It's not really cultural appropriation when the game was designed/conceived as a party game that could be played competitively. It's very similar to Halo in that respect, but Halo fell off unfortunately. Also, nerds come in all shapes and sizes. I'm getting pretty jacked yet own a damn Wii U lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:41 PM
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Imo male dominated hobbies are more popular with women than vice versa. An average woman is more likely to have a hobby that's male-dominated, whereas men more likely have to branch out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:21 PM
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Gen Z is more accepting overall of nerd/nerd culture than prior generations, and the gender divide among nerds is closer to 50:50 than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:17 PM
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Yeah, when Skill of Attraction said my ex cheated because I lost my way as a man, I wanted to strangle him through the screen.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/24 11:13 PM
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I think there's more of a divergence. The people who are into fitness are a lot more into it than in past generations, while those who aren't are less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:00 AM
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If your shirts aren't showing your leaness then you're buying the wrong ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:59 AM
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In high school, most people in relationships are dating their classmates who are the same age. After high school, women tend to date men that are ~3 years older than them, and men tend to date women that are 3 years under them on average. So men between 19 and 22 are restricted from both sides, the women their age are dating men that are older than them, the women 3 years younger than them are in high school (they'd be competing with their classmates the women see everyday and there's also a cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:57 PM
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Fair enough
/r/ExRedPill12/06/24 07:01 PM
2

I'd love to grow my hair put more, but I sweat easy and live in America's swamp (FL) while also very active. It's a huge pain to take care of when I try it.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/24 06:52 PM
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I think it's mainly that it's a nice round number. Outside the US, the standard is 180cm, which is 5'10.75. Also, posture, fitness, style and shoes can easily make a 5'10" stand taller or at least appear taller than many 6' men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:13 PM
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This goes for fitness as well. Society as a whole severely underestimates the amount of time/effort it takes to get a lean muscular physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:10 PM
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Yeah, a lot of their tactics are framed around creating a dynamic where she loves him more than he loves her. That, in theory, gives him the power in the relationship.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/24 09:08 PM
1

Yeah, self confidence issues can really affect people. I have a habit of physically shrinking away or trying to get out of people's way, especially women.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/24 10:08 PM
1

Imo, this is more about attachment behavior than gender. Men just happen to (on average) lean avoidant and women anxious. Avoidants unhealthily cope/compartmentalize and can take distance, while anxious people often repress everything and struggle to communicate until it explodes and/or are addicted to the honeymoon phase. Neither are healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:15 PM
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It may, although a big part of it is that, in general, women care more about their appearance, even after death. So they're more likely to commit suicide in ways that don't disfigure them, which happen to be less lethal. If it was only for attention, women who live alone would be just as likely to pick a violent method of suicide as men who live alone (since with poisoning no one would find them in time).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:12 PM
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Ah OK. To me, faces are like height in that some people will have their adult features quickly, whereas others will gradually grow. Men that are in the latter camp often get mistaken as younger than they are until they're 30 or so. For example, I went from 5'6" -> 5'9" during freshmen year of school, then to 5'10" in a year, and stopped growing. Then, through the rest of high school, kids that I was taller started catching up or passing me. But I had a baby face, and I didn't even get the slight…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:36 PM
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Also, we tend to feel more mature than we really are. You ever look through old yearbooks and think, "Oh my god, we were babies!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:21 PM
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Mate poaching requires at least emotionally cheating. There's usually a lot of flirting, going on dates, swapping dirty pics, etc before people get physical. Infatuation doesn't cause cheating, but it can cause someone to cheat down instead of up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:18 PM
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Tbh the odds of a prostitute having a spontaneous libido and being sex positive overall are higher than the general population. But yeah, I'm not naive and have never been with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:17 PM
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I agree with you on the first point, but how many women both know that consciously and aren't affected subconsciously by it? Porn has pretty well-known effects on decreasing men's attraction for most women and sex due to dulling dopamine receptors. Wouldn't women constantly seeing juicy bodies have a similar effect? Basically, "instagram reality" for men. I'm on the leaner side and 5'10". I have an ok frame (my chest is pretty big relative to my other measurements and my shoulders are pretty wid…
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 04:52 AM
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Eh, there's a lot of jacked 27 year old successful young men. But I've been working on all fronts.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 01:28 AM
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How can one do #4? Like I'm 5'10" but getting to that level of attractiveness ain't easy. I've been busting my ass at the gym for nearly a year straight and have been lifting on and off over the years.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 01:25 AM
1

Eh as a somewhat above average guy, trying to hook up through any of the apps is like crawling through broken glass.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 01:24 AM
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I'm not too knowledgeable on women's sizing, but isn't 2-4 considered XSmall?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:45 PM
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It's the dimensions, specifically the width, of your skeleton. For example, men with larger frames have longer collar bones, so their shoulders appear more broad regardless of how much muscle they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:44 PM
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Studies have shown that people cheat down more often than they cheat up. Infatuation is a powerful thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:26 PM
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Tbh, I'd insist on going facebook official with my partner and making the status public, so anyone who googles her knows she has a partner. I've been cheated on myself, and I have no clue if the other guy knew, although I have no idea how he wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:24 PM
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Yeah, that's not what I consider as a backup plan, that's full on emotional cheating. Her ex becomes the backup plan after she branches over to the new guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:22 PM
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That's true, but usually, when women go out to socialize, it's in a group for friendship and safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:39 PM
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Sometimes, friends can be shitty. One of my exes' best friends didn't like me from the start and would actively exclude me whenever they'd spend time together, but her other best friend, family, and pets LOVED me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:20 PM
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True, although some people, both men and women, suck at communicating and quietly build up resentment over time before ending things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:11 PM
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I'm single since I was cheated on and dumped, so I suppose it's a sore spot for me (shrugs). Maybe sexual abuse is too far, but cheating absolutely is knowingly exposing your partner to STI's. I guess it's more like negligence? Popular opinion is that cheating is considered emotional abuse at the very least. What if one partner cheated, got HIV and tested positive, didn't inform their partner, and then infected their partner? That's definitely in the sexual abuse camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:04 PM
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There is a possible argument for the cheating scenario (exposing the betrayed partner to STI's) that could put it in the sexual abuse camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 08:49 PM
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Out of curiosity, how do women feel about wife wide hips? God gave me a women's pelvis lmao so I've got love handles Edit: typo lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:20 PM
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In fact, I heard many women prefer a guy with just a little chub in relationships, so he's comfier to cuddle. I imagine cuddling with The Rock would be like cuddling with a rock. My ex liked to fall asleep on my chest. It was nice. For one night stands, "cuddleability" doesn't matter as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:00 PM
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Tbh, a lot of people underdiscuss the importance of facial attraction because one has such limited control over it and is so subjective. You can take care of your skin and lose weight to narrow your face, but you can't slam a door to become handsome Squidward (lol). Height/weight preferences are a lot more universal than preferred faces, and also easier to quantify. So they get discussed more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:56 PM
2

I feel like they lack 3, 6, and 8 the most, especially if neurodivergent.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 08:34 PM
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That's fair. It just kind of sucks as a guy whose qualities are suited for relationships but isn't emotionally ready for one (got cheated on and dumped last year) and would like to be desired.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 08:33 PM
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It works in the same way as a brute force algorithm does. It takes a lot more time and effort to find people (outside dating apps) but less time spent courting each person. A nice person who also has confidence, attractiveness, charisma, and who knows when not to approach will have the highest success rate.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 08:25 PM
2

How is Protein powder a lie? It's literally just powdered food, it's nothing like steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:21 PM
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A lean physique with a V taper makes someone look visibly taller. Better posture also makes someone stand at their full height more often. A 5'10" guy with shit posture is going to look 5'8" most times for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:31 PM
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I make a protein smoothie for breakfast most days with frozen fruit/berries, Greek yogurt, 1.5 scoops of protein, ice, and milk. ~300-400 calories and like 50g of protein. Then I try to base my dinners off some kind of meat, usually chicken, pork, or lean ground beef. With veggies on the side. My Achilles heal is my sweet tooth and snacking. I switched from ice cream to frozen yogurt and that helps a bit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:25 PM
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I WISH it did lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:22 PM
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My chin kind of sucks so while I have the cute chubby cheeks, I get a double chin unless I'm like 10-15% bodyfat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:22 PM
1

For me it's the cheese and crackers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:21 PM
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I feel like she's talking more about frame size than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:18 PM
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Imo, for most women, leanness beats out having huge muscles. Leanness and the clothes that emphasize it as well as good posture makes you look taller as well. I've been 5'10" since I was 16, but many have asked if I've gotten taller because my posture was horrible back in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:17 PM
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I was scrawny as hell for years, and I managed to put it on. Game changers were daily protein shakes, getting more sleep, and training 4x a week every week. As well as getting enough food.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:14 PM
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I'm just hurt since my ex cheated on and left me, and from what she said, she saw me as someone she needed for a time but didn't truly want. I'm kind of afraid to date anyone with financial/emotional baggage now.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/24 03:27 AM
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Objectively, I'd rather be single than be cheated on, but I can't help but miss her. But I can't be the one reaching out, that would be pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:37 PM
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I wish I asked myself that before she cheated and left.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:40 PM
2

What if the man is already paying almost all the bills and doing more than half the chores? Should he still be expected to both plan and pay for the dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:36 PM
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Yeah, like I get it, I elevated her from one part of Maslow's Hierarchy to another so her needs changed, but yeah it definitely hurts. Specially since she cheated on her way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:05 PM
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I believe men's generally active vs women's generally reactive libido is how the current dynamic was established.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:18 PM
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She wasn't in the best place in life. Was drinking too much, had student loans, credit card debt from caring for her mother, living with her toxic friend, and was deeply unhappy/jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:06 PM
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My ex told me that looking back, she wasn't sure she would have fallen in love with me if she didn't need me at the time. Essentially telling me that she stopped wanting me when she stopped needing me. It's been 8 months since the breakup, but the thought of a partner that needs me is still terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:52 PM
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Lol, I never thought of FL like that, but you're absolutely right. Flying cockroaches, chungus winged carpenter ants, scorpions, black bears, hugeass banana spiders, black widows, sharks, jellyfish, shit tons of mosquitos, oh and then there's giant alligators. Sterling Archer's rant comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:55 PM
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Oh shit, guess I've been misled. I should've been a bit more skeptical. I thought they could play with the acoustics of the rattle to make it sound like the rattle was coming from to your left instead of in front of you for example. Kind of how surround sound on headphones works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:54 PM
2

I'm in Florida USA
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:01 PM
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Ah, I got you, I was a boy scout growing up, so I enjoy the woods. It's really just snakes for me. With spiders, there's only like 2-3 that are poisonous to people, but with snakes, a lot more. Plus, rattlesnakes being able to make it sound like the rattle is coming from a different direction while hunting you is pretty damn scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:52 PM
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One of those bastards got in my shirt once as a kid. I thought my brother was tickling me until I realized he was 6 feet away. Admittedly I am afraid of snakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:42 PM
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It can definitely be a challenge to deal with, I should have gone to therapy earlier for it. I don't think I put that much strain on the relationship compared to a lack of communication (neither of us were great at expressing ourselves). What frustrated me is that my brain would be running at a million miles a minute, so if I missed a line she'd make this logical leap from "He didn't listen to this single line" -> "He doesn't care what I have to say" -> "He doesn't love me" and she'd say the las…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:59 PM
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Depends on the woman, see my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:26 PM
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Because oftentimes, the chase is exhausting and unsustainable. I treated my ex well. I paid all the bills, more than my fair share of chores, provided for her so she could drop to part-time work to focus on school. Once she graduated and started working, I made dinner for her every night after her nursing shifts and literally catered to her in bed (I brought it on a bamboo tray). I ran a tight ship chore/cleaning wise because she had high expectations, told her I loved her every day, hugged/kiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:09 PM
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Lol (long term) testosterone levels aren't influenced by social factors. It's more your genetics, bodyfat %, and to some extent level of fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:49 PM
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Not the other commenters, but knowing that you have the option casual sex in your back pocket is a source of comfort, even if someone doesn't indulge in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:38 PM
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Lol, I'm a software engineer, and my job certainly doesn't require a mensa candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:29 AM
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I think it depends on age. Younger women grew up during the great recession, and middle class crisis are more understanding. Someone who's in their 40's may view it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:45 PM
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There's a bit of a power dynamic at play, too. It's a lot tougher for men to get a first date than women, so there's this feeling of "do I really want to risk blowing this by asking to split?" That's why the argument of "if you don't want to pay then ask to split" falls flat. It's like saying "why did you take the job if you knew you wouldn't be paid enough" in this economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:43 PM
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It's depressing to read this as a guy that did everyone for someone who cheated and left.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 12:15 AM
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Women are more likely to initiate the breakup. Makes sense that the person who didn't want the relationship to end would have fonder memories.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:34 PM
1

Yeah... no that's not it works
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:33 PM
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Women are more likely to initiate breakups, and if the person dumped isn't giving chase or stops, the dumper know the ball is in their court. So, if the dumper has unresolved feelings, they might suppress them and gaslight themselves against their ex to resist being tempted to come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:24 PM
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That's fair, just meant that he's not really crawling back if you're the one who left him. Some women have an expectation of their ex chasing her after she broke up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:09 PM
1

This is assuming the guy did the breaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:05 PM
1

The same way parents have sex after their kids are born?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:24 PM
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There are limits, though. I'm not sure if I could date someone with a drastically different diet than me (vegan/vegetarian, for example). If I'm in a long term relationship and they switch to that diet, I'd work on figuring it out and compromising. But someone I just met? I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:15 PM
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You really don't need to get all the way down to 14%. If you have a good amount of muscle, you can be all the way up at 23%
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:05 PM
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Imo, it's not the mere act of sex that men (myself included) crave. I'm not sure if it's the norm (I'm a giver) but I enjoy sex not just for the act, but for the feeling of being wanted, desired, truly arousing someone else, etc. If my sexual partner would not be having sex with me if she wasn't being paid, then it eliminates almost all of the point, at least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:24 PM
1

Who taught you that was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:16 PM
2

This thread is specifically about casual sex though?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:54 PM
1

Isn't this thread about casual sex specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:46 PM
5

I believe he meant the women would say they were looking for long-term commitment when they actually weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:58 PM
5

Eh, men absolutely feel body insecurity, especially when it's being criticized by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:38 PM
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Nah it's true, I've been too anxious to approach myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:10 PM
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Many really attractive women (9-10) actually get approached less often than 7-8's because most men figure they'll get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:11 PM
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Speaking for myself, but that's pretty abnormal. With online dating people of both genders may be going on dates with multiple people at once, but they're ultimately looking to commit to one of them within a few weeks/months.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:15 PM
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Tbh, women can absolutely do this too, it's more dependent on individuals than gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:25 PM
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That's fair, but my ex would get upset at me for masturbating when she rejected me almost every time I tried to initiate sex. She would only initiate sex once every few weeks or month. And I wasn't throwing it in her face that I was masturbating, I would do it in secret. Like it or not, sex is an important component of a relationship. And psychological needs are a real thing, don't be obtuse. In a monogamous committed relationship, the only options to meet one's sexual needs are masturbation and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:46 PM
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In your opinion, how would a guy who is looking for friends with benefits find it? Because dating apps simply do not work for me in seeking that. And just befriending a number of women on the hopes that one of them is sexually attracted to me feels manipulative. And AskWoman and 2X are vehemently against entering friendships with that in mind. I know that that shouldn't be the goal, but practically speaking, I only have so much time. I was rejected almost every time I tried to initiate sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:16 AM
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The difference is that it feels that way because the mind is hyperfocusing on relationships. It's like when a couple is thinking about having kids and suddenly babies are everywhere. I do try, I'm actually about to go out right now and go out regularly with friends. I still struggle with approach anxiety and some self-confidence issues, especially after getting cheated on. I also have ADHD so eye contact is a constant challenge. I see a therapist weekly, a psych monthly, have a variety of friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:28 AM
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Fair, I have a decent amount of friends/family and am pretty well adjusted, but I have ADHD and (possibly) borderline autism, so social cues and especially eye contact are challenging for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:48 PM
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Yeah, honestly, the odds of winning on a $1 scratcher are greater than the odds of going out to a bar and meeting someone where there's mutual attraction. Yet, no one is saying you should keep buying scratchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:40 PM
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It's more that when we're already feeling alone, it stings a bit going out, and everyone else is paired up or not interested. It's like going out to dinner on Valentines Day after being dumped, but less extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:38 PM
1

How long has it been since you were single? Bars are kind of dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:36 PM
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I'm talking about someone constantly talking shit about your partner for no reason. Eventually, you internalize some of that negativity, and it puts distance between you and your partner. It's manipulation. And yeah, often times it causes a breakup and the best friend swoops in when she's vulnerable and the two end up together. There's a lot of stories about women ending up with "the guy she told me not to worry about". My ex was bi and spent a lot of time alone with her bi best friend (both wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:30 PM
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So if your partner was friends with someone who had unrequited feelings for them and refused to reject them, you wouldn't feel concerned? It takes two to cheat, emotionally or physically. Basic psychology is that people eventually internalize what they are surrounded by. If my partner is friends with someone with feelings for them who is negative about me for no reason whatsoever, and she doesn't speak up about it, that's a red flag. If my partner who gets horny when drunk is getting drunk alone…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:19 PM
1

And hot take, I don't think men should be judged for that. If a guy is looking for sex, doesn't have a partner, she doesn't have a partner, and he finds her attractive, I don't see why anyone should judge him for wanting that if she asks him. Most people would rather have sex with someone they have an emotional connection with of some kind than a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:16 PM
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The issue to me is that women are more likely than men to discuss intimate details of their relationship with their friends for therapeutic reasons, venting, advice, etc. When one of those friends has feelings for her, he/she can end up manipulating her against her partner. There's a bias on a subconscious level. Also, has she directly turned that man down, or is he still holding out hope? This situation can often evolve into emotional/physical cheating, especially when alcohol is involved. If o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:58 PM
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ADHD (and possible undiagnosed autism) sucks :/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:06 AM
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We all need human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:40 AM
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Approaching for men is a numbers game in a similar way as the lottery. Many people don't play the lottery despite the high prize because they assume the chance to win is miniscule (in this case, it actually is). So they don't buy a ticket because they forsee it being a waste. Imo, online dating has led to a drastic rise in insecurity and rejection hypersensitivity in men. So they fear approaching the 9-10 because they figure that they're going to get turned down, which never feels good. So why d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:35 PM
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That's actually rooted in abandonment trauma and/or insecurity or paranoia about betrayal due to prior experiences (fearful avoidant attachment). A lot of it is subconscious, and they may end up being attached to the safety/comfort more than him as a person. And it's not all roses for the guy in question, believe me. I got accused of not caring about her or even not loving her a lot during my last relationship due to her own betrayal trauma/insecurity. And I was figuratively and literally cateri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:02 PM
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After reading your comment, it kind of reminds me of how higher education was pushed on us as the pathway to success, and then the great recession happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:14 PM
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In this market, even a Honda Accord is 50k if you include interest lol. But tbh I could see 100k getting tight if you're planning vacations, saving for a home, saving for retirement, and paying toward a college fund.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:47 PM
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Because wearing their insecurity and anxiety on their sleeves is how they get rejected. Oftentimes the best way to heal that is to "fake it till you make it". A guy can lose weight, gain muscle, make more money, but approach anxiety can only be lost by doing it a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:59 PM
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Yeah, the whole "don't look at the opposite gender" thing can also be crippling to someone's social skills and give this anxiety/guilt for even the smallest dopamine hit from someone's appearance. It has this energy of shaming someone's sexuality. Granted, don't oggle, but a look is perfectly ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:06 PM
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Imo, it's anytime you do/say something with/to someone you have the potential to be sexually attracted to that you wouldn't do in front of your partner. This is assuming your partner is reasonably secure and not jealous/controlling, and what you're doing goes beyond asking for counsel/friendly advice. That can be flirting, sex, texting/calling, going out to lunch, or even seeking out a friendship. If you feel the need to hide it from your partner and especially if you feel the need to lie, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:53 PM
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Imo, men are less likely to bring something up unprompted, especially if it's about their feelings or relationships. Men also aren't as good at giving relationship advice to men as women are, for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:39 AM
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We care because it's part of her life, but we don't factor it in as much when it comes to picking partners as women do. There's exceptions (sex work, stripping, etc) that are dealbreakers to some men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:36 AM
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To be fair, talking about the positives of an ex on a date is considered a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:08 AM
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Ah, I got you. Sorry, I misread your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:51 PM
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I understand what you're saying and mostly agree, but it's a bit tiring when people act like women derive zero pleasure from casual sex and think there can't be emotional intimacy beforehand. That sex for women is purely a sacrifice and a means to get someone to commit and to appease them later. That's a really jaded view that is just not true. Even most hookups (especially where they initially meet offline) will have emotional intimacy first. The conventional bar scenario, for example, involves…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:39 PM
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Correlation not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:55 PM
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I agree overall, but did you mean to say neurodivergency?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:51 PM
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Aren't most married couples within 4 years in age?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:46 PM
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Yep, since their limbs are shorter, there's less rotational force when lifting, so their muscles have to make up for it. The muscle is also stretched over a smaller distance, so it appears larger. A 5'5" guy who can squat 200lb's looks a lot more muscular than a 6'2" guy who can squat 200lb. The 6'2" guy has a higher weight ceiling and may be initially stronger, though, so there's tradeoffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:34 PM
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China's issues are less about population decline and more about a severely unbalanced gender ratio. A slow population decay from the average number of children falling below replacement level will still have a balanced gender ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:22 PM
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Also, human population exponentially increased in the past 70 years. There are 3 times as many people on earth now than there were when my father was born. It would take quite a while for human population to decrease by even 1 billion from falling birthrates, and that would leave us with the same amount of people as what, a decade ago? Dooming about this is like when people doom about a stock doing a 5% pullback from all-time highs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:19 PM
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That's not feminists fault. The economy is why people are choosing not to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:05 PM
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Average and Mean are synonyms or close to it. The latter is a mathematical way to calculate the former. Regardless, for a relative scale like attractiveness, it's always gonna be centered around the mean. I guess it technically would be 5.5 (used to 0 based in computers lol) with the bell curve centered between 5 and 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:04 PM
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And what happens when your lack of sexual experience results in you being unable to judge sexual compatibility or even one of you has a kink that the other lacks? I'm coming at this from another angle, I get anxious if someone hasn't slept with many people or anyone because it means that they have no idea what many of their preferences or kinks are, which means it's a lot more likely for us to be sexually incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:00 PM
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To the last point, there's a bit of an overlap between this sub and "going their own way" which is where that comes from. Tbh, I think for most people, a relationship or the feeling that are making themselves into someone who will get into one is needed for most to be happy. But it's not always the relationship itself, but what comes with it. The feeling that you're loved, that someone cares about you, and that someone wants to be with you exclusively. It makes you feel seen, not invisible. Frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:54 PM
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For sure. David Prowse, for example, was an absolute unit and played Darth Vader (he was in the suit). He had a huge V taper (there's a Vader pun here somewhere). Yet he looks chubby relative to the many Marvel shirtless scenes where the actors have like 6% body fat, are dehydrated, and lifted immediately before the shoot for the max pump.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:07 PM
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True, I gained some weight from a happy relationship and lessened my gym time. But then I got dumped last Saturday and I've been there 5 times since then lmao. I've got ADHD, so I cannot calorie count. I would literally get anxious before meals from it when I tried it. For me, most of the weight loss in the past was from different choices and substations. I'd get giantass monster apples like Gala or Fuji from the store since they have very few calories relative to how much they filled me up. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:57 PM
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A decade is a little short, so I'll go 20-30 years from now. Over time, more or more people will grow up post-sexual revolution, and with more films that are less focused on winning a perfect prince/princess or saving a damsel in distress. Frozen, for example, conveys that the guy who looks perfect may be a monster and that an imperfect "fixer upper" (movie's words) may be a better partner. Now that I think of it, Shrek (especially Shrek 2) did this as well. Disney stories weren't really like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:39 PM
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Average = whatever the typical person looks like; the "1-10" scale moves around such that a typical person is a 5. Basically, an average looking person is better looking than about 50% of the population and worse looking than about 50%. Some people, like yourself, disagree with this and use a static scale, so if the typical American gains 20 lbs, that means they're a 4 instead of a 5. Maybe it's because I'm an American, but the average person here is overweight to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:21 PM
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Most of the time, TikTok trends are just rage bait, and the creator doesn't actually believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:09 PM
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That doesn't mean he's average either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:07 PM
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Lumping in Adam Driver with Sandler and Black is a bit confusing to me, lol. Driver's facial features may not be attractive in the conventional way, but he absolutely turns a lot of heads. I saw The Force Awakens on opening night, and when he removed his helmet, you could hear the air being sucked out of the room. One lady was even like "daaaammmmmmmnnnnn" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:05 PM
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Are you in a college or beach town? Outside of those, most people are overweight to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:03 PM
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Honestly, the main reason people are overweight is overeating. "You can't outrain a bad diet" is a popular saying in fitness communities. Someone could go to the gym 5 times a week and still be chubby if they eat too many calories. And tbh, I always considered the food industry to be a little messed up. They hire scientists to specifically make their unhealthy food as addicting as possible, and shower us with commercials for it at all times, even when we're most vulnerable to it, with no option …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:00 PM
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In a lot of ways, Hollywood really has warped what's considered average attractiveness, especially in men's fitness. If you look at photos of popular fit actors over the years, you can really see their bodies become more and more shredded/distorted. Most people, even self-described "gym rats", do not look like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:53 PM
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Technically, yes, but people typically, but not always, date within their own race. So if you're a white man and 5'9", you'd probably be considered as below-average height by white woman. But asian woman would consider a 5'9" asian man exceptionally tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:46 PM
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This is the way. My GF loves my legs and butt
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:02 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:04 PM
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I'm gonna have to disagree, some people (the Rock and JerryRigEverything on YouTube look better bald).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:45 PM
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Most celebrities swooned over by women are in the top 1% where everything else is perfect too. By that logic you'd say you're screwed because you don't want to do steroids to get their bodies faster than several years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:43 PM
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Average age difference in relationships is only 3 years, with men being older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:40 PM
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What about a simple goatee (basically the Heisenburg look)?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:34 PM
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Zack from JerryRigEverything can get it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:34 PM
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Ectomorphic people can have larger shoulder to waist ratios, and the slim waists let the glutes and legs stand out which women love. You just need to lift and find clothes that highlight it, which is admittedly not easy (I'm also one) Also the stuff you read online about fat/muscle gain varying per body type is nonsense. Body types are frame sizes, you're gonna lose fat at the same rate as any other body type if you both eat in the same calorie deficit. 5'9" is short on Tinder, but in real life …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 03:33 PM
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This is correct, but at least in America, most aren't predestined to failure. 70+ percent of the population is overweight and 30 percent are obese. If you're born with a weak chin or whatever you can still beat 70% of the population by lifting and losing weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:26 PM
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"Doesn't require the money." How expensive is alcohol again? Because your OP talks about the environment and the substances doing the heavy lifting. Last I checked bar drinks are not cheap. Mind you, the median income in the US is like 15 an hour, and most on this sub are between 20 and 30 and are earning more like 10 an hour and/or have student loans I'm entering into a relationship now and browse this sub out of interest, I have no dog in this fight. But with the way the economy is, I can't fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:16 PM
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Also the term "pickmeisha" is often used on there and is a portmanteau of Keisha and pick me. It's pretty damn racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:52 PM
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Personal space (their own room) is required by CPS once the kid hits a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 12:17 PM
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Lol fuck that. My county posts mugshots of arrests online and I have an extremely unique last name. One arrest would literally ruin my life. Like I'd have to move states.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:01 AM
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I've thought abput the beard stuff since I can't grow one, but I think in my case it's just low follicle density in my face. Plus I heard messing with DHT to grow more facial hair can cause male pattern baldness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 05:21 AM
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It does a bit, if you ever see a guy "manspread" and then put his legs back together there's an 85% chance it was from discomfort related to that. Or take a large step with one leg but not the other. But male and female genitalia aren't in the same spot, it doesn't get as much in the way as you would think. Also being able to aim when going number 1 is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:57 PM
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Some people can brute force it yet through force of will in the same way some can beat back the depression that keeps them from progressing. But it something goes wrong they can backslide hard. But that's not something everyone can do, it could require a lot of therapy and re-examining thought processes than just ignoring it. You can grow to be more attracted to someone specific over time, but someone with extremely ingrained standards from porn/media is going to have an uncontrollable first imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:47 PM
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Yeah, if testosterone from birth/genes had declined by 40% we'd have definitely noticed by now. I'm part of the fitness subreddit here, and saying "my T is too low to gain muscle" would get you laughed out of the room because it's not an issue for the overwhelming majority of people. OP also isn't specific about subtypes of testosterone. Less DHT reduces facial hair growth, but it also decreases balding and hair in places many women don't like hair in. Your facial hair density is determined by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:58 PM
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Except off the rack dress shirts lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 04:44 AM
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Except dress shirts. If your body isn't shaped like this, off the rack is horrible. And if you have muscle, even a little bit, they look dreadful and muffin top around the waist. I could rant about this for ages, but I'd rather just buy from cheaper stores (Ross, TJMax) and use the savings to get them tailored.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 04:44 AM
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50k is 60% higher than the median wage in america and about equal to the median household income. It depends on where you are of course, but 50k/year at 20 is a lot of money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 11:09 PM
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Nah dude. As an example, two people meet in college and don't know if they want kids. Then 4 years later get married and 4 years after that, one decides they want to have kids and the other doesn't. I personally have different life goals now at 24 (investing, paying a mortgage, career) than when I was 18 (idk, getting into college and being the best Halo player), and they'll probably evolve again when I hit 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 11:06 PM
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I think it's more like by playing it safe you miss out of life experience and the good things that can happen. As an analogy, late blooming/not dating at all because you want to reap the rewards or whatever is like putting all your cash in bonds at 22, while the exact opposite is putting your life's worth into a single penny stock. There's a middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 10:56 PM
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Either works really. I think the main use case of ranked is it avoids the spoiler effect and you're not relying on two different parties to caucus. That being said, rather than two parties you usually get a big tent party that's a lot more vulnerable to what it's population says. That sounds like something america as a whole would prefer. Idk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 10:50 PM
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Plus we (as in first world countries) made this mess to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:17 PM
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Lol I love how this theory was initially called white genocide (even though the white people were still there and weren't be slaughtered). Then they're like "Let's call it The Great Replacement" and we correctly shot that shitty argument down. Now they're too chicken shit to even say the name but will happily repeat weaker versions of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:15 PM
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Kind of wish they waited until he wasn't president to ban him. I don't like the idea of him stewing in rage in the oval with no ability to vent when he has the nuclear football. Plus he's 74 with every risk factor of a stroke and will either be jailed or dead soon, so he has nothing left to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:07 PM
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Ranked choice voting solves this. Every ballot marks who they prefer in order. The votes are all tallied according to everyone's first choice. The worst performing candidate is eliminated if there's no majority winner, and their votes are given to the others by their second choice. Then, if still no majority, do it again. Eventually you'll only have 2 candidates left in the pool, with one having a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:04 PM
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Damn, didn't realize compound interest was that dramatic. I have just enough to do that but I've mostly been using the extra to pay down the mortgage. But it definitely makes the decision between starting an IRA or just using Robinhood much harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:33 PM
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Oh god, is this the gay frogs bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 06:30 AM
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We did finally raise our minimum wage so that's something. It'll just take 6 years to get to where it needs to be now :(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 06:09 AM
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The average american (not median) makes 54k a year. 27k*20 = 540k In what world is 540k enough to retire on at 40? Life expectancy goes 40 years beyond that, so that's only 13.5k a year to live on. And I'm not even talking about the inflation of any of that time. Unless you're talking investments, except you can't use a 401k or roth IRA for that since those have minimum age distribution requirements, so get ready to pay a lot of taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 06:07 AM
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Assuming that's true, why would N count matter at all if it's really only about penatration? Someone who has sex every week for a year with their boyfriend would have the same amount of "damage" as someone who had sex with a different person every week. Assuming her boyfriend in the first scenario is average and a normal distribution for the second scenario. Yet her N count is 1 vs 52. So why would N count matter at all for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 07:07 PM
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TTDMA There's too damn many acronyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:40 PM
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That was clearly a joke lmao. But as someone who commented in the live threads/discussions for each episode, a LOT of people found it kind of sexy. Cross dressing is totally a thing some women are into. Just feel lucky I didn't link the "Squat Cobbler" video from Better Call Saul. "The world is a diverse tapestry" - Jimmy McGill Edit: couldn't help myself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:36 PM
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Right, I was assuming for guys that are average. "Lean" isn't really genetic aside from thyroid. "Lean" just means a high muscle:fat ratio which anyone can theoretically attain. Taller people have wider (skeletal) frames, but not in a 1:1 ratio with their height so they look narrower from the front. They also have longer limbs, which means said limbs end up skinnier than someone shorter pushing the same weight because there's more muscle mass. That's good because once they add all the muscle the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:21 PM
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Should the state ban onlyfans, cam sites, porn, etc for the same reason? We already have prostitution (money for sex), but for some reason the requirement is to videotape it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 05:19 PM
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Please, we can't even get them to do anything if it doesn't involve a tax cut or bailout for rich people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 04:44 PM
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Black pill is named like that because it's basically a poison pill that can lead to a downward spiral and possibly death. It's a feeling that nothing you do will ever matter because you're just fundamentally unattractive enough in things that cannot be changed, and feeling that the only two "solutions" are embracing the loneliness that you're always gonna feel or killing yourself. It's basically just giving up on love entirely. It's what incels calls "sui-fuel" (suicide fuel)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 04:11 PM
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We're talking social behavior. Don't use the same shitty argument people use to claim racism is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 04:00 PM
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Slightly asymmetric Assymetric Symmetric It's the same guy in all 3 btw (Antony Starr)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:45 PM
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Fair enough, maybe I should have found one without the skintight catsuit lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:39 PM
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My mom married her high school sweet heart at 18 and divorced a few years later. At the end of the day, things happen in relationships and some people just grow apart/split. I'd be fine dating a divorcee as long as the divorce wasn't because she cheated, stole from him, abused him, or something else like that. My concern is kids, I'm only 24 and am still adapting to being an adult. I'm just not ready for a father role nor am I ready to spar with the kids biological dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:26 PM
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Feel like all these pics are too dramatic/skewed. I'm a guy, but swimmers generally have really disproportionate upper and lower bodies. Aaron Paul has a rectangular frame, Kevin James, has a lot of fat, and that heavyweight wrestler/body builder is way too extreme on the muscular end for a lot of women. I feel like light/midweight wrestlers like this guy (with maybe a touch more fat and a different haircut are what most prefer. It's a very balanced physique with muscle on all areas that isn't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:04 PM
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Dudes got a cute smile lol. I notice that it's pretty symmetrical. I heard that people find assymetric smiles (like Antony Starr from The Boys) to be untrustworthy. Is that true? Sidenote, everyone should watch The Boys, it's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:54 PM
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Man, and I'm sitting here with my Ben Swolo hips because somehow I ended up with a women's pelvis lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:48 PM
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I feel like the colder the climate/the more layers, the greater advantage a little husk gets you since it increases your overall frame size and makes you seem more powerful. But where I am in hot and humid Florida, slimness is more important. It's probably why they had Adam Driver husky for the Star Wars sequels yet also looked odd when he took his shirt off and became Ben Swolo in The Last Jedi. Obviously more muscle is usually better than adding fat for frame size, but one is a lot easier to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:43 PM
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Apparently steroids can cause that issue weirdly enough. Some of them cause the traps to grow far faster than the rest and lead to the trapezoid neck
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:31 PM
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Only odd thing with Phelps (or swimmer bodies in general) is that his upper body and legs are out of proportion since swimming doesn't use the legs very much. You might like light/midweight wrestlers more since they need their whole body to be muscular (arms for grappling, legs for having a base to resist movement) Lightweight for example
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:30 PM
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That's not a dad bod, that's a fit dude with 30lbs of fat on him
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:12 AM
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OP really does sound like a high schooler pining for his crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 05:46 AM
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Maybe this sub should stop voting Republican/Libertarian and whining about the nanny state then. When they sandbagged american wages and women had to join the workforce or starve with their husbands, they gained a bit more independence and social acceptability for working on their careers. Mom having to work means it's harder to take of the kids and puts strain on families too, leading to divorce and them looking for a provider for their kids because wages are trash and barely livable at best. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:12 PM
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That sounds like a good plan. Gyms where I am are open, but these dummies won't wear masks. I'm doing PHUL right now, but I swapped Skullcrushers with something that doesn't destroy elbow joints. Also now lean on something with the one handed dumbbell rows because if not supported they twist my back (herniated disc from a car accident last year). Gotta fix my squat form and up my grip strength though, my numbers are incredibly weird due to those two things. Bench: 185 for 5x4 Squat: 165-170 with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:25 PM
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True yeah, but unfortunately if you have wide hips like me you need more than that and/or get down to 10% bodyfat to get a convincing V-Taper. I didn't mean Arnold, but your college athlete is beyond noob gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:49 PM
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I make nearly 70k and this is a concern of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 01:58 AM
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In today's economy, that's a near impossible standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 01:55 AM
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Same here. I was mostly referring to the sub as whole, since I hear a lot about the "evils" of welfare and the government, yet they throw their lot in with glorious US capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 01:54 AM
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Btw, those body types are complete BS as far as muscular development goes. Physically they exist (skinny frame vs bigger one), but one doesn't gain/lose muscle or fat any faster than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 01:18 AM
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I gotta ask, if this sub knows that raw uncut capitalism is the problem, why do y'all vote Republican?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 12:57 AM
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Granted, it still takes a while to visibly see results, and there's heavy diminishing returns once you get your bench to 1x bodyweight (I'm experiencing that now). But most men can't bench their bodyweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 12:55 AM
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Daniel Radcliffe is pretty widely considered attractive/above average. No idea why you used that as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:46 PM
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For the most part, I think most of the price difference is quality. Men-targeted shampoo/conditioner/body wash is garbage and makes my hair incredibly dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 10:39 PM
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Most if not all of the people buying kids off black market are sick and twisted people. I'd say the kid is gonna be better off if almost anyone from this sub buys it vs those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 05:38 AM
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Mostly agree with this, but wealth inequality has skyrocketed. Despite two working members now vs one in the past, it's even harder to get by. If anything the economic pressure on everyone has increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 05:28 AM
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Some colleges have 50k+ students. It's 100% possible considering how many people are moving between classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:38 AM
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I mostly meant that women have came out pretty explicitly on askwomen, TwoXChromosomes, and FDS saying that they don't want men to approach them in their daily activities. Not at the gym, the grocery store, coffee shop, at work, etc. The people who switched die to awkwardness were the women being appraoch, NOT the guys approaching them. Which leaves people with bars/clubs, friends of friends, and online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:24 PM
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And the obvious counterpoint is that we've been in a pandemic for upwards of a year with a current explosion of cases in many parts of the world, especially in the US and Europe. Most social events are pretty strongly discouraged if not prohibited. My birthday is in 2 weeks and I'd love to throw a party for it and meet some new people, but I know that'd be hugely irresponsible. The point is that signing up for swing dancing or improv could land them in the 5-6 figure medical debt if they contrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:00 AM
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Good thing I'm autistic...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 05:25 AM
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Lot of people work jobs they hate or are uncomfortable with and don't even end up rich. Having sex for work doesnt hurt anybody, unlike a lot of corporations. Vanguard's S&P (VOO) has been 15% for like 5 years at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:43 AM
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Kate Mara and Chris Hemsworth are 10's to me. Don't forget Steve Mnuchin, "I must have the Mnuchies because he's looking like an absolute snack" - John Oliver
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:27 PM
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What do you mean by actual capacity to work? You realize most people in the US live paycheck to paycheck and work in service industries right? Most are not getting promoted and building generational wealth, most don't even have 1k in savings. You don't need extensive resume experience for that. You're also assuming they only do sex work with no other job, which isn't always the case. Service sector employers are notorious for calling everyone at part time to avoid paying benefits, so most people…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:04 PM
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If the market puts a price on her labor it's productive by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:41 PM
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Only if she doesn't report the tip at the end of her shift. I imagine servers who have an abnormally low % of tips in cash get questioned eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 05:06 AM
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I think the word he's looking for is assertive. Less passive, communicates what he wants rather than hiding it and being shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 03:22 PM
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From elsewhere in the thread: Looked further into it. Apparently, despite the majority of men being willing to continue, the side effects were signficantly worse than the female version, with a decent portion of men becoming temporarily sterile, and a smaller, yet still significant portion of men becoming permanently sterile. Along with the vast majority of men suffering mood disorders (depression).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 02:26 AM
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My problem is the condoms are the only form of birth control for men that won't kill their fertility. Men don't have an equivalent of an IUD or birth control. If I don't have condoms on me or if they get damaged from heat or if they expire, I need to hunt down more. I can't just pop a pill every day and be shooting blanks, I wish I could lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 02:18 AM
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I don't disagree, but there isn't really a constant male birth control option that doesn't hurt your reproductive chances after reversal. Women have this. Men have condoms, but if you don't have them on you or they've been exposed to heat, you have to get some. With an IUD, amr injection, etc you don't have those concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 01:56 AM
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It's actually not that strict. It's about the total amount of heat absorbed by the food. So at the "safe temperature" the bacteria is killed basically instantly but you can heat it to below that and hold it there for a certain amount of time instead. Like I can't get my chicken to 165 on my stove top, but I fried some last night that didn't hit that but we're still white inside. No food poisoning. I overcooked a lot of chicken back in college cause I was worried about that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 01:11 AM
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I think the vast vast majority of people have sex at least once in their lives, thus if the average age of virginity loss is in high school, about 50% have had sex in by the end of high school (granted, outliers could pull the mean up or down from the median). But there's no reason to think that 90% of people graduated as virgins. If you have a source that says that, please share it. That's correct I supoose, but usually lying isn't responsible for a massive change in percentage. Penis sizes was…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 03:15 AM
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What are you talking about? This thread is literally about what to do for things that can't be fixed?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 02:19 AM
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The average age of virginity loss is actually 17-18 for both sexes in America. So the majority have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 01:30 AM
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Nah dude, it's more like being constantly showered with examples of genetic/physical perfection on an app dominated by pictures with twice as many men than women makes it an uphill climb. I never said appearance is irrelevant, it matters a fucking lot, BUT it's weighted far higher in OLD than real life. Frankly, my concern is that this culture will bleed into real life and cause the inequality of OLD to bleed into real life more than it already has.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:27 PM
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Ted Mosby is obsessive, fairly high maintenance, and overbearing to a lot of people though. It's been a while, but I don't remember him getting cheated on much? I know he tried to cheat on Victoria (I think) with Rhobin though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:24 PM
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Really, I find his cheesy grins to be super memorable. Feel like a lot of women would love that. That being said, I sort of see what you mean,he looks kind of like Josh Peck actually. 5'7.5 isn't that short of you're going for 5'2" people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:03 AM
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Ted has like a billion other issues that make him off-putting to a lot of people than his looks. I think a lot of girls would find him cute (I'm a dude) But "I think I'm in love with you" ON DATE ONE is off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 03:59 AM
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Covid poses a problem them. Women don't want to be approached at a grocery store, gym, or anywhere else she goes in her daily life. So that leaves bars, clubs, parties, and online dating. The first 3 are mostly shut down and/or too risky. It's been 15 months for me, but I was injured and living with my parents. I got promoted and started making enough for my own place.... In early March when everything shut down. Had a few dates, matches, and messages here and there, but they all ghosted or unma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 03:49 AM
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Aside from the fact that that ain't consentual sex, appearance matters less in real life than in online dating's infinite supply market.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 03:43 AM
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In general, the more of a genetic match, the worse they smell. My psych teacher back in high school used the example that after he husband came back from the gym, she didn't smell anything, but his sister thought he reeked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 01:53 AM
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I mean, in some ways you're right but women absolutely do try to one up eachother with stuff like dresses and heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 11:35 PM
1

Ah, so basically Charlie from Two and a Half Men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:52 AM
1

Education, not on carbs vs fat or macros or some shit, just pure portion control and calories. That's the only way that worked for me to lose weight, and it's usually not healthy to put kids on a diet besides portion control and exercise since they're still growing. When I was a kid we had the food pyramid that had grains as 40% of a person's diet. That alone probably caused a lot of problems because grains have WAY more calories than most think. That whole thing needs reworking,you should not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:30 AM
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No thanks, I'm satisfied with my PP size.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:15 AM
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And how exactly is the government running healthcare that but the police and firefighters are not? Franky, I've seen WAY more people advocating for capitalism with a social safety net than "hippitu hippitu abolish private property." Btw, if you (general you) think Biden of all people is going to seize the means of production, you're just wrong. No shame in voting Biden than having a deranged moron drag the conservative party down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 03:58 AM
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People have been and we're voting for them. I'm still waiting for Trump's amazing healthcare plan that would keep everyone covered and cut costs that he talked about over a year ago and said he'd unveil a few weeks from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:45 AM
1

What is socialist to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:40 AM
1

I found a job in my major, make good money, and am thankful for it. I'm just not happy. But I don't have the 20k for a 4 year degree and I sure as hell am not getting on student loans. That's part of the problem with higher education being a requirement, it's way harder to switch careers than before. Back then if you could graduate high school and get a job as a secretary. If you didn't like it, you could get an apprenticeship somewhere else and learn from there. Now though? You need a 4 year de…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 05:02 PM
5

Being a gifted as a kid really does suck later on. It gives me this pervasive fear of failure or constant desire to quit something I'm not immediately good at. I aced college but found that while the degree interested me (computer engineering), the available entry level jobs (mostly programmers), just don't. So I'm constantly anxious about work and am far too broken and broke to head back to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:00 PM
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With the economy the way it is, a lot of people just don't have time for hobbies beyond maybe watching an episode on Netflix.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 08:55 PM
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I personally agree with him on the warped scale but thinks he's exaggerating. Not sure why he's doubling down 20 times though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 12:38 AM
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Guess I have an ugly face lol. Not saying my body is at a body builder level, but my bench, squat, and deadlift total to around 560lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 11:54 PM
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Using cardio solely to burn calories is extremely inefficient. Far easier to eat smaller portion or swap some snacks over to apples than run for an hour a day. Plus some cardio like running is really bad for your knees if you're obese. Also, heavy weightlifting burns more calories per minute than steady state cardio.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 11:52 PM
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I'm not sure if I do. That's equivalent to a 2000 calorie/day deficit. Meaning he was nearly starving himself to death and likely lost a boatload of muscle too unless he was like 400pbs before. 100lbs in 10 months is really good, a 1000 calorie deficit is the most people recommend as safe. 100lbs in 5 months is a deathwish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 11:48 PM
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Women really don't like guys who pick up their hobbies just to get laid. There's a stereotype about the lone guy in the yoga class.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 03:22 PM
1

Gen Z is only ~24 years old, the average gen z man is in middle school. More to the point, stagnating wages and skyrocketing costs of living play a role in this. It's way harder to get to a middle class income now than it was 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 01:17 PM
1

Agreed, within my dad's lifetime we've gone from 2.5 billion to 7.5 billion people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:48 PM
1

My state is humid as shit (Florida). I've yet to find a daily sunscreen that doesn't set off my exema or run into my eyes. Kind of worried I'm going to age prematurely as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:14 PM
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I saw my allergist and found out I have a deviated septum. Explains why I can breathe out of one nostril at a time most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:12 PM
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Tbh, I think there is more middle than you're making out, but it is true that online dating (especially due to the imbalanced ratio of men/women) is closer to the extreme case. The interesting thing is that many dating app subreddits here have some of the same opinions but less extreme as incels and red pillers ("Follow rules 1 and 2") despite the small sizes of the groups. It's not because incels plotted a take over, but because the users of those apps are having experiences closer to incels th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:49 PM
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Averages are notoriously distorted by just a few outliers, making them a poor measurement of a sample with high inequality if you're not doing a trimmed mean. Hence the "curve-destroyers" in schools. The median income of the US is actually only 32k a year, or a little over 16 an hour. It's just not accurate to use the average income to extrapolate trends when it's nearly what many software engineers start at while 42% of your population makes 15 an hour or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:43 PM
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I think the point their making is the order of things. If she was in a long term relationship first and experimented with something and didn't like it, she wouldn't try it in a hookup after. It's like if you got awful food poisoning from something you were allergic to, you're less likely to eat it again even if it's prepared by Gordon Ramsey. It's the order of events that matters, not what types of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:52 PM
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I'm just salty tbh, always wanted to be 6'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:41 PM
2

Nah 10% is pretty extremely low, maybe that's closer to 14. But if you don't have muscle you look plumper at every % since there's no Vtaper. I have been lifting since I was 15, and I only bench 170 and squat even less. My fucking retarded ass didn't eat enough in high school and was stressed for all of college, then got hit by a minivan before graduating, then languished during quarantine. I just don't want to have to wait years to be worth a passing glance. Maybe I would've gotten taller since…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:40 AM
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It's not that simple. For example this guy is probably around 17%, but doesn't have much muscle. I don't think women are after this look. Putting on muscle is way harder than losing fat. You can lose 1lb a week of pure fat (actually more than this depending on some other factors) by eating a calorie defecit and with enough protein. At best, men can really only add 2lbs of muscle a month naturally. So to add 10lbs of muscle, a guy has to bulk for 5 months (2lbs a month). That doesn't seem hard un…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:28 AM
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I'd say Covid making online dating the standard has given rise to this thinking. Online dating is far more harsh than in real life dating, men out number women 2 to 1 and swipe right often, causing women to be very picky. It really is a whole different beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 12:59 AM
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Idk, the concept of someone losing attractiveness as early as 30 is really weird to me. Like look at Jennifer Aniston for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 12:46 AM
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I'm not quite heavyweight yet unfortunately, but I'm progressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:46 PM
1

If only clothing companies didn't use marble blocks for sizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:09 PM
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How does this factor into online dating though? Men outnumber women heavily on dating apps and are much more likely to swipe right, and Tinder/Bumble are almost entirely picture based.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:49 PM
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Granted, I am fairly attractive, albeit slightly overweight when these conversations took place in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 12:51 AM
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Seriously, I just bought a house in my early 20's. Guess what I had to do? Bust my ass all the way through school, then go into college another 4 years for a stem degree. Then get hit by a minivan shortly before graduating (the settlement helped me with the down payment). Oh yeah, I also had a mix of scholarships and parental help to pay for it, no way I'd be able to have a house right now without that. Guess what Boomers had to do for the same result? Finish high school and get a job pretty muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 09:12 PM
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I agree with this. From what I've read on both, it seems to be a bunch of people who were hurt/used/abused by someone in the past who are trying to form defense mechanisms (arguably, overcorrective ones) for how to prevent it from ever happening again instead of getting help. Some people out there are total pieces of shit that you won't see coming no matter what you read. Either of these strats may block some assholes out, but also everyone else. Just browsing each subreddit, they both are just …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 08:54 PM
2

As a guy with not a lot of experience, how does one be a "good kisser."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 07:08 PM
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I'm convinced they either use a block of marble or a pencil as a fitting model
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 04:29 PM
2

Not tight necessarily but the current shirts look more like a tent. Standard shirts are too loose on my waist and make it look like I don't have an ass because they completely hide my lower back. It also applies to shirts you tuck in. Finding dress shirts that fit my upper torso that don't look like the left picture on my waist is a huge pain in the ass I need to get a tailor....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 02:46 PM
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Main problem is dress shirts stretching at the chest if I move my arms back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 02:33 PM
2

Prostitution is illegal dude. It's also quite expensive. Most people at the end of the day (yes even men) don't just want to have sex, but to have sex with someone they have an emotional connection with. Most won't be happy in a sexless relationship even if they could get sex for free from somewhere else and their partner consented with it. I look at it logically, 3 hours of fun that doesn't last or another 300-600 bucks on the mortgage or a bunch of new things that will bring me joy/entertainme…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 01:59 PM
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I didn't lose mine until I turned 22. In my experience, most tinder girls either didn't really care or were more attracted to me when I told them. I didn't necessarily volunteer this info, only told them when they asked. Like yeah, there were some who were like "this job needs 3 years of experience" but most weren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 12:53 PM
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I wish american clothing companies made clothes for my body type. Normal shirts are way too big around my waist while "slim fit" ones are too small on my chest and upper back/shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 12:37 PM
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Idk man, I get significantly more attention from gay men than straight women, even though I'm straight. Maybe it's because I'm momma's boy cute rather than Chris Hemsworth, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 10:05 PM
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*Cries in Ben Swolo hips. Like do I have to get to sub 10% body fat for my torso to not look like a fucking hour glass.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 10:03 PM
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Uh, where can you make that kind of cash driving for Uber?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:51 PM
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