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Well, that's substantial. /s I can imagine all kinds of wonderful things that would be awesome. My ability to do that doesn't actually produce results. It's a figure of speech. Companionship means sharing your life in a substantial and meaningful way. Finding a friend/friends with whom that's possible is no easier than finding a romantic partner with whom that is possible. One is really not any easier than the other, so I'm not sure why this is considered a viable alternative. That's a fair poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 05:14 PM
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Well, that's your choice. But the fact that you're boiling it down to two options seems pretty similar to the mindset a lot of RPers around here would have. You're allowed to feel the way you feel, but maybe looking beyond the pill will help you in the long run. Anyways, shifting one's mindset in not needing sex to be happy would cure your issue with celibacy, I'd imagine. As for loneliness, I mean, you can always look for friends or whatnot if you want companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:28 PM
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So, the thought of not being desired causes a man to lose self-respect, and this causes mental suffering (rumination?), which then births sadness/depression/anxiety/what-have-you. Fair enough. That's not necessarily a need though, at least not in the purely physical sense. My contention isn't that there are negative effects. What I'm saying is that the negative effects are the result of a expectation of desires not being satisfied. Sure, there are then physical manifestations of feeling bad, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 12:50 AM
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The difference between hunger/thirst/breathe and sex is that those urges are needed for an individual to keep physically sustained. To survive on an individual basis. Sex is needed to make babies, obviously, and to keep your lineage going. And obviously the urge to have sex is there and can't easily be suppressed barring medical issues. Where things start to get muddy is where my argument comes in: the mental narrative around sexual urges not being satiated. From a physical standpoint, the sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 09:00 PM
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A requirement sounds right. The question is, can that requirement change to a mere preference? I guess that would require (haha) a shift in one's mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:59 PM
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In some ways, yeah. For example, apparently a lot of guys here believe sex is a male need. I'm still not quite sure what they mean by a "need", but to me it seems to just be a strong desire. Does it mean it's wrong? No, not at all. But I think some of these dudes are causing themselves a lot of grief in believing it's a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:50 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:52 AM
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Humans can override instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 02:15 AM
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The fact that virgins are automatically assumed to have a defect or are defective themselves for not having sex by an arbitrary age smells of some deep-seated cultural programming by these assumers. It's the "guilty 'til proven innocent" mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 01:31 AM
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Yeah, I don't doubt most guys want sex. But, to what level will any particular guy go to to fulfill that desire? Funny, it always seems to boil down to being a problem (no sex) that needs to be fixed, rather than a desire like any desire. Damn, I can't relate to that mindset at all, even when I was younger and 'hard up'. Maybe it's a cultural thing: peer pressure to rack up the notches on thine bedpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 11:19 PM
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Something could have went wrong somewhere, or not. Maybe he had bad luck. Maybe he didn't prioritize sex. Maybe he wasn't in many circumstances that lent themselves to opportunities for sex. There can be "good" or neutral reasons. I think it's best not to go in with preconceived notions until something really alarming crops up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:34 PM
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That's a clusterbang of batshit cray-cray right there, if true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:20 PM
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I think what he's saying is that once a woman finds out a guy's a kissless virgin, she can conclude, true or not, that he's never been 'selected' by other women in the past. In lieu of that, she'll ideally lose all her attraction to him. I'm guessing the line of thinking is, 'what's wrong with the guy that NO OTHER woman's decided to kiss/sleep with him?'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:59 PM
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Sure it is. Any big idea/ethos linking to many people's identities will help foster the mob mentality. And once a big idea/ethos starts being questioned, the mob gets angry, because now you're questioning a part of their identity. Dangerous territory to tread. Addendum: unity works well when things are going well, but when things aren't going well - ho boy. Shit gets real real fast. It's like watching an inexplicably agitated flock of sheep scatter at the crackle of a fence gate opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:09 PM
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Sounds like the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:04 PM
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That's a fair point. I was intending to say that thinking that women are wonderful by default is silly. Mine wasn't intended as a criticism of the phenomenon, but rather the thought that women are wonderful in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:03 PM
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Both AWALT and WAW are complete hogwash. Where's the nuance, babe? The nuance! It all sounds like...brainwashing-by-initialisms, or BBI. See, I can do it too! Cute little expedients like AWALT, WAW, etc. become cultist ritualism very quickly. If you don't adhere to these initialisms...to the stakes!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 06:08 AM
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Where does it lead? At the individual level, it should lead to the dissolution of clinging to any particular mental framework/belief system, and should be replaced by the bare reality of one's own experience. No more glorified safety nets in tidy black 'n white 'pills', just dealing with life experiences head-on. But anyways, everybody's going off their own experience(s) regardless. Assuming they're not lying and not misinterpreting their experiences, this should hold as true. And if it's true, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 05:39 AM
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Maybe BPers do spend time doing enjoyable things and helping others as well. Why couldn't they be able to question the RP ethos and do those things? Not a great argument, there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:00 PM
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What a crock of shit. You won't be bending any matrix, but life will eventually bend you over, apply the lube, and bob your uncle, regardless of the pill. RP sees reality with as much bias as any other of these pills. Bend the matrix.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 03:05 AM
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Alright. Have a nice day. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 12:12 AM
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Are you Jimi Hendrix?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 09:21 PM
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There is no true dating guide except experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 03:44 PM
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actually it does, because there is a measured difference between men and women. It doesn't matter because regardless of what chemical is the main chemical in producing the urge, we're talking about men's urge and the mental state of the urge not being satisfied. Reiterating, you're not physically in danger if you don't satisfy that urge, you won't die, you won't become psychotic, etc. This narrative of a man NEEDING sex is purely in the mind. That's my argument. lol. They do not "attribute it," …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 08:52 PM
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Let's start there then, for the sake of argument, true or not. What does higher SMV mean in general? How do we know 80% of college/online/etc. girls are after this higher SMV? How does she gauge higher SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 04:00 PM
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...it is the MAIN factor. It being the main factor doesn't matter to our discussion here. Ask any fTM trans person... And just because trans people attribute their extra horniness to testosterone doesn't prove that testosterone is or isn't the main factor. Taking their word for it doesn't prove anything by default. This mental AND physical anguish... Physical anguish? Is it painful to not ejaculate for a long period of time? What other possibilities are there for physical anguish if one goes wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:46 PM
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You're making stats up. What pool of women are we talking about when you say "most women"? All women who exist? All women who online date? Who go to clubs? College? A combination thereof? We need a baseline, dagnabbit!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:29 PM
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Yeah, subversive wasn't the right word. Clandestine is better. So, the whole manner of secretly attempting to guide the relationship(s) - short or long term - in a certain way raises a lot of red flags. Whether parties are hurt or not, knowledgeable or not, etc. of the RP theatrics doesn't discount it's subtle manner of trying to sway things in ones favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 02:51 PM
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Smart and empowered doesn't necessarily stretch across all circumstances. It's more nuanced than this. They could have self-esteem issues as well. They might be insecure as well. They might be drunk as well. Or none. Or other possibilities I haven't mentioned. Just because some women are willing doesn't mean RP is anything to write home about. It's still subversive in intent. And those women might have been willing to have sex regardless. Are you trying to pardon the RP spiel using the "because …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:56 PM
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Can't say. Doesn't really matter, because testosterone is not the sole chemical that creates sexual arousal. That said, the question is, even if testosterone was the main deal, how much of the 'woe is me' spiel is caused by the biological urge itself vs. the story ones tell himself if the desire is not satiated? I mean, if you don't have sex for a long enough period of time, eventually you'd just wet dream, so the sexual urge is placated in that sense. And, there is masturbation, as I said. So, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 09:05 PM
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Abstinence-only education doesn't work. Horniness, puberty plus peer pressure is a powerful three-headed hydra of desire. Ultimately, the work of elucidating teens about sex should fall on the laps of parents. Also, maybe more importantly, to teach the kid(s) to think independently and critically so that they can handle the desires properly if they can't be satiated. Prostitution is what it is. I wouldn't do it, no matter how hard up I was. I don't think it's worth the effort for myself. As for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:39 PM
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yeah, that is called being careful. You could easily apply this same reasoning to the outcome of gun usage. It's good reasoning for gun usage. It's flimsy reasoning when conflating women with guns, because the assumption is, well, I don't have to go further on that. nope, RP helps to manage the women one is already approaching. Shit tests are a great example of providing excitement and fun. RP is used for both approaching and after the approach, from what I've gathered. And playful teasing in-th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:14 PM
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Testosterone has a variable effect on libido: it's different from man to man. Testosterone is also produced by women, but in much smaller amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 02:07 PM
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And what about testosterone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:44 PM
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The interest in sex isn't the problem, but the manner of procuring it is both machiavellian and a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 02:37 PM
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This "all guns are loaded" thing seems a flimsy way to try to control the outcome of inherently uncertain things like relationships. You have no control over the outcome, but this RP stuff seems to think you can. A few success cases here and there only proves it's just a numbers game approach. The caveat is that relationships have always been a numbers game, regardless of what you do, redpill, blue pill, no pill. RP won't net you better or more numbers, just different ones. Plus, best case scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 02:27 PM
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You can't prevent someone from cheating. That's beyond you're control, no matter who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 12:52 AM
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RP can be generalized to be a "guilty until proven innocent" approach to gender relations: any relationship will fail unless it succeeds. Will operating from this mindset lead to results? Yes, in some cases, depending on the persons they deal with. It sounds like an ideology in who's ardent practitioners are terrified (hyperbole) of being deceived, or of being vulnerable. So, in becoming tactical, one can 'avoid' being deceived or at the very least ease the pain if one gets deceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:14 PM
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It's an uncertainty about who's being genuine and using the "guilty until proven innocent" mindset as the fallback.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:05 PM
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So you're letting a psychological framework decide what your 'needs' are? What does sex provide that you absolutely can't do without? Oxytocin? Dopamine? Endorphins? If it's those, you can get them in other ways if you want them that bad. No one inherently needs sex. I mean, if you want to have it, go ahead, bobs your uncle. But you won't die if you don't get it, you won't go crazy, you won't become unhealthier if you don't. Worst case scenario, you may not reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:52 PM
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Ditch the concept of SMV. Act like a human being, damnit. This shit is turning some of you guys into undersexed little machiavellis. There's enough bullshit in this world, and this what RPers are worrying about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:46 PM
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Minimizing what? You're conflating getting your rocks off with some fabricated need. Don't you see the problem here? It's a narrative: fabricated need is a narrative. You desire sex, you don't inherently need it. It's needed for making babies, true; but beyond that, it's a desire for the good feelings or intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:31 PM
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Just my experience. I didn't intend to imply that it never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 02:27 PM
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"Men are so thirsty?" Come on, Jim. More credit, please. This urge is not like being hungry nor thirsty. You'll disintegrate if you don't eat or drink. With sex, given enough time you'd just wet dream. Plus, you can tug on your johnson and get it out that way if it's really a problem. Everything else sounds like a narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:34 PM
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I don't play by made up either/ors. Plus, it sounds like you're trying to make up excuses: because of testosterone? You make seem like you have no control over your reaction to urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:07 PM
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Yes. If you treat attractive girls as individuals, as anyone else, you can be friends with them. The sexual urges are just urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:42 PM
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I've never heard a woman mock a nice guy in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 03:32 PM
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Sculpting, building, call it what you will. Was being alittle cheeky with that wording. My point was that it seems a lot of time and money is invested into the pursuit of getting one's jollies off. Is it wrong? No. Personally, I think it's overkill, and one's resources could be better spent elsewhere. But, it's not my decision what one does with their time/money. Just my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:34 PM
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"Alpha" male, "beta" male haha. I'll just be a male, thanks. I'd rather just kick around, work and play guitar and read. Stuff I enjoy doing. And imagining all those RPs working themselves up about SMVs and RMVs just so they can get laid. Pouring money into body sculpting and fancy cars, and time into fancy patter and charisma and all that. Haha! The lunacy. The fuckin' lunacy. And all just to get some feel-goods below the trousers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 08:02 PM
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Do you know how all guys act? Some guys might, you know, not just stick his johnson in and bust. Some guys are not completely slaves to orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 07:54 PM
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