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Did the mods close the sub?
/r/seduction03/11/22 11:26 PM
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I always assume interest and ask the girl out. My problem is that’s it’s not 50% as you say but it’s 0%. I have yet to win one of those scenarios
/r/seduction30/10/22 09:38 AM
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I’ve never lifted weights. I’m a rock climber and the girls I’m interested in date other rock climbing guys who are lanky like me. Not all girls want hulk like you say
/r/seduction30/10/22 06:34 AM
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I have asked girl friends if they know of anyone who was interested in me. And each time they couldn’t think of anyone
/r/seduction30/10/22 06:33 AM
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Can I consider a win to be a girl not avoiding me?
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:50 AM
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How can I get to the point of getting a match or texting a girl in the first place?
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:50 AM
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Because some of us have been rejected hundreds of times with not a single yes
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:47 AM
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What if you have no positive experiences with girls to loop back to?
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:45 AM
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I’m like op. I’m 6’2” have a strong jaw and am in amazing shape.
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:45 AM
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But at what point do you step back and say that something isn’t right? 100 rejections, 1000 rejections, 10,000 rejections? I’m personally at around 600 rejections
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:43 AM
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Not op but 45 this month so far. 45 rejections and no yes
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:40 AM
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Sample statistics. If 1 in 10 girls find you attractive then you can be relatively sure that 10% of girls in the world find you attractive. If no girl out of hundreds find you attractive then you can be relatively sure very very few girls like you
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:40 AM
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I go after low quality girls and they still constantly reject me
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:36 AM
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I can do one arm pull ups off Of 2 fingers. Being fit doesn’t mean instant girls
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:36 AM
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Ok. I am in amazing shape. I live a life worth living. I will never make 6 digits but I don’t care about money. I live one hell of a life. I’m obviously going places. Yet girls are only drawn to me as a friend, or not at all.
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:35 AM
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I’ve done all this. I have self love. I would totally date myself Still not an option to girls
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:32 AM
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I’ve built it. How do I distribute maps so that others know of its existence?
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:31 AM
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And if they can’t help?
/r/seduction29/10/22 11:07 PM
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I think it’s just good communication about things. My parents married at 20 and are still together after 25 years. Grandparents married at 18 and are still together at 50 years. My sister married at 19 and she has two kids now at 22 and she and her husband are doing just fine.
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:48 PM
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And then they only see me as a friend
/r/seduction28/10/22 08:25 PM
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In that case my photographer ripped me off
/r/seduction28/10/22 08:16 PM
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How? I have a complete profile with a thoughtful bio and good pics, and I have never gotten a like, even with paying for boosts
/r/seduction28/10/22 06:19 PM
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You get likes?
/r/seduction28/10/22 05:14 PM
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Idk. I did the whole “just be social” thing in college and never met a girl who didn’t reject me
/r/seduction27/10/22 08:55 PM
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Good point. The unfortunate fact is that in smaller towns everyone in their mid 20s is married or has kids. So I have likely missed my chance in a small town. That’s why I’m dealing with a bad job and unhappy living, maybe I’ll meet someone in the city. But I agree. I am always looking for a new job and I would love to be in northern Washington. Like forks or something.
/r/seduction27/10/22 02:42 PM
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I’m not the guy your responding to but he sounds like me. I’m pretty outdoorsy and work in forestry. I’m lucky to live in a city of 250k people. I literally can’t move to a bigger city because there would be no work for me. The only reason I’m able to be here is because the city is a hub for the industry. I hate it in a city. I’m doing everything I can to move back to a small town.
/r/seduction27/10/22 02:17 PM
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Are these girls that say you are super cute, strangers? Or are they all acquainted with you ?
/r/seduction27/10/22 12:44 AM
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If they really thought you were that attractive, wouldn’t they want to date you ?
/r/seduction27/10/22 12:16 AM
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news bro, but if you were attractive enough to succeed on tinder. You wouldn’t need tinder.
/r/seduction26/10/22 11:45 PM
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As someone who is always told I should model and who has good pics. I’ve never gotten a like or match on tinder.
/r/seduction26/10/22 01:48 PM
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I don’t think you fully understand what demisexual means. I actually have a fairly high sex drive but I just usually need a deep emotional connection to feel anything towards a girl
/r/seduction26/10/22 01:33 PM
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How?
/r/seduction25/10/22 11:27 PM
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What if I am waiting for marriage? Or demisexual?
/r/seduction25/10/22 10:08 PM
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I’m passionate about lots of things. Climbing, outdoor recreation, my career field, cars, model building, and so on. I’ve met lots of people who are equally passionate with those things, they just only see me as a friend
/r/seduction24/10/22 08:51 PM
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True, but how can I get rid of my basic human desire of wanting a companion
/r/seduction24/10/22 07:16 PM
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What if you have done all that and still fail?
/r/seduction24/10/22 07:15 PM
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I’m like op. Just unlucky. Lots of approaches and no success. I can be flirty with a girl but no matter what I try I have always just been that friend or “they don’t see me that way”. I’m tall, clean, in shape, and social. Girls constantly tell me that any girl would be happy to be with me, yet, constant rejection.
/r/seduction24/10/22 07:14 PM
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I don’t have high standards like that. My list for what I want is just to be a nice person who I get along with. That is all.
/r/seduction23/10/22 10:55 PM
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Ok, what if there’s no patter to what I like or what turns me on? Like I said it’s random. Sometimes it takes months for a girl to turn me on. Sometimes it takes years for her to turn me on? How can I learn what I want ?
/r/seduction23/10/22 05:53 PM
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So I wouldn’t say it’s the same thing. I’ve never had a girl make advances or show interest so it’s not like I’m playing a game and waiting them out. You could put the most attractive girl in the world next to me and I wouldn’t feel anything. We could be great friends for years and I still feel nothing. Then one day I wake up and I’m attracted to her
/r/seduction23/10/22 05:12 PM
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Is it? None of my family and friends are huggers and it seems that most people aren’t. Which is fine because hugging people your not close to is weird to me. There’s like germs and stuff and it’s just way too close to someone.
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:56 PM
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I don’t see that. Show me a girl and you say you know if you want to sleep with her. I don’t know her, so I don’t know if I would even want to date her. Sure I can say she is cute but I have no attraction at that point. I need to build attraction over time. Am I just broken?
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:54 PM
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I want to say thanks for the suggestion and I realize that tinder may work for some guys. But it has never worked for me. I’ve posted my profile in the help thread and had good feedback. I have good pics and a descriptive bio. I’m not only swiping on models. And I feel that I’m an interesting person. I’ve never had a match. I don’t even get likes. I have paid to see the likes (have none so that was useless). I have paid for boosts.
/r/seduction23/10/22 04:38 AM
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True. I do put forward effort to meet girls and show interest but so far it hasn’t been reciprocated yet
/r/seduction22/10/22 11:06 PM
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I’ve never been in a situation where a girl wanted to hug or kiss me after just a few minutes of interaction. I honestly can’t say how I would react or what I would feel.
/r/seduction22/10/22 10:57 PM
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Maybe. I generally take hugs as something special. I’ve only been hugged a couple of times in my adult life. It’s rare that a girl wants to hug me so Im just not a hugger.
/r/seduction22/10/22 10:56 PM
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No? I’m still here to try to learn how to attract girls so I can get a date.
/r/seduction22/10/22 09:50 PM
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What if your waiting for marriage?
/r/seduction22/10/22 09:48 PM
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Because it takes me a while to even know if I like a girl.
/r/seduction22/10/22 09:47 PM
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I can’t even imagine hugging a girl after 3 dates. I barely know her. It usually takes me months or longer to even be attracted to someone.
/r/seduction22/10/22 09:45 PM
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Ok then what?
/r/seduction22/10/22 09:44 PM
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I’m a tall white dude and girls are not interested in me
/r/seduction22/10/22 03:13 PM
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Yep. None
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:11 PM
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M25. Combined I probably have several hundred rejections. I don’t count but over the years of putting myself out there adds up. I have never been on a date
/r/seduction20/10/22 06:00 PM
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I’ll let you know if it happens
/r/seduction18/10/22 07:06 PM
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If it was as easy as you say, I would be married by now
/r/seduction18/10/22 06:24 PM
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Yes. I’ve pretty much been everywhere in the western us and Canada. I am tempted to go on another long thru hike next summer on the Appalachian trail
/r/seduction13/10/22 10:34 PM
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I’m not seen as an option. I am sexually invisible. I can flirt with a girl and have her be receptive only to reject me saying she doesn’t see me that way. All my cold approaches fail. And I have had hundreds of rejections with no ounce of success. I have never hugged a girl. Last time I tried to hug a friend I was turned down because she had a boyfriend and she saw hugs as cheating even though she hugs all the other guys in the group
/r/seduction13/10/22 08:20 PM
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White, 6’ 2” 170 pounds. Lean but in shape. I’m only of the better climbers at my gym and I am working to run a sub 3 hour marathon. I’ve been told that I give off hozier, heath ledger or spencer Reid (criminal minds) vibes.
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:57 PM
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I’m a forester. Hobbies are things like rock/mountain climbing, mountain biking, back country skiing, model building, gardening, working on cars
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:20 PM
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Well traveled, lots of friends, interesting hobbies, and so on
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:37 PM
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I’m constantly changing things up and trying different approach styles
/r/seduction13/10/22 02:30 PM
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Keep at it but don’t expect success when your in college. I’m a late bloomer (have yet to sprout) and I regret not getting any experience in college but at the same time I did everything I could
/r/seduction13/10/22 02:27 PM
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I don’t think I’m awkward or nervous. I am well likes and can shoot the shit with anyone easily. I’m not going to pay for my first time. Not really my thing. Don’t think I could sleep with someone who I didn’t love. I’m not desperate. I live my life. Whenever my first kiss happens it will happen. Though I’d like for it to be sooner than later I’ve approached long enough that obviously something is wrong. I just wish my friends were honest with me about what it is.
/r/seduction12/10/22 11:55 PM
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What do you mean by that? Edit. Not lying I truly believe that I am a great guy who is a good catch. I believe that I live my best life. However, I am sexually invisible to girls.
/r/seduction12/10/22 11:32 PM
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I go to those places. I’m 25 so I’m still in the age where places around colleges are acceptable. I’m always improving myself. I have personal goals I’m always striving for. I’ve never kissed. I very rarely hug a girl. I legit have never met a girl who has been interested in me. I’ve even asked my friends if they could think of anyone who might be interested and they can’t think of anyone. And honestly I have no idea how to find or what to look for in a dating coach
/r/seduction12/10/22 08:48 PM
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What do you mean by foundation? I am 6’2” and 170 pounds. I dress nice and am clean. I look normal and am decently attractive. On my social days I certainly hit the 3-5 conversations. I’m not afraid to compliment her. I just almost never have positive responses. The few times I do, she isn’t attracted to me (or is in a relationship) but I make a new friend.
/r/seduction12/10/22 08:18 PM
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You would be surprised since i am that guy.
/r/seduction12/10/22 07:47 PM
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Friends just say I must be unlucky because any girl would love to have me. This is said by girls. Guys just say idk you seem like a catch to me.
/r/seduction12/10/22 07:46 PM
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Ok, I’m none of that and I still struggle. No excuses and I am not a victim. Why do I still have no luck with girls?
/r/seduction12/10/22 06:46 PM
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What if people always tell you how great of a guy you are and girls would be lucky to have you, but you still only experience rejection?
/r/seduction12/10/22 06:45 PM
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What if your an attractive guy who lives one hell of a life, and is the best version of Himself? And still don’t have luck with girls?
/r/seduction12/10/22 06:44 PM
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Ok but what if you do try? I go out and make approaches. I take car in my dating apps. I live my best life etc…. I just must have bad luck or something
/r/seduction12/10/22 06:41 PM
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Uh no. I am introverted and am social. I just have a very limited social battery.
/r/seduction11/10/22 04:25 AM
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I’m super outdoorsy. Think of going on a few several month long wilderness trips. I climb, camp, hunt or ski nearly every weekend. I tend to connect with people like this fairly well, but not really since I don’t come across as hippie as them. I don’t smoke or drink and I’m not a typical can life instagram influencer. I’m also religious and very few people who enjoy the same things I do are religious since those girls tend to settle down before their mid 20s Essentially I’m stuck between two typ…
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:21 PM
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I must have bad luck then. I do this and I’ve had girls start the conversation 0/10 times
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:23 PM
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It must be 6’3” because I’m 6’2” and invisible to girls
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:19 PM
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Ok. I will live a lie to get girls and then be rejected because they will find out I am faking everything to get them
/r/seduction09/10/22 02:53 PM
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Typical outdoorsy hipster
/r/seduction09/10/22 02:53 PM
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If this is the case, why am I told that I need to darasticly change my lifestyle in order to attract girls?
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:47 AM
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As in? Do you have proof that all the people who are like me do not actually have girls? Or proof that my friends who are like me and married are lying?
/r/seduction08/10/22 11:19 PM
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That’s because I like who I am and confident in myself. Why should I fake who I am and live a lie to attract the interest of girls? I clearly don’t need to considering other people like me have no problems with girls.
/r/seduction08/10/22 03:34 PM
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Any tips on how to find that niche group of people? Not necessarily the same as his group but you get that. I’m a niche person myself and can never really connect to most people due to this.
/r/seduction08/10/22 03:27 PM
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I’m the dude it PM in the comment. He pretty much said I am dorky and a guy like me will never find a girl unless I go through a complete lifestyle change and change everything about myself. Despite me knowing lots of guys like me who have no issues with girls….
/r/seduction08/10/22 04:44 AM
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It’s likely number three. I have no reason to lie about 1 and 2, but It’s hard to evaluate 3 by yourself, and without knowing me, you couldn’t possibly know what I’m doing that’s putting people off.
/r/seduction08/10/22 04:42 AM
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What makes you think I’m making excuses and lying? I’ll check out your coment
/r/seduction08/10/22 04:35 AM
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I couldn’t tell you a number from the last 30 days but I’ve approached 4 this week.
/r/seduction07/10/22 05:29 AM
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I agree. I think for me, I’ve had so much romantic rejection with no success or positive feedback that somehow there have been some invisible walls built up.
/r/seduction07/10/22 12:30 AM
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Thanks I’ll keep trying that. In the past when I have tried something similar, the girl would find a way to leave the situation. Something like getting some water and then sit across from me. A few times when I would do that to someone I knew and thought she liked me back, she said “what are you doing”
/r/seduction06/10/22 09:52 PM
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I do yoga a few times a week. Just helps me stay calm and works with my flexibility. Generally that sort of thing just calms me down and as a result I’m even more cool and collected. Doesn’t really “loosen me up”. Hell, I don’t even really know what “loosen up” means.
/r/seduction06/10/22 07:53 PM
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Pretty much it seems. Apparently girls are a collective group who only like a very specific type of guy. /s
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:41 PM
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Like OP all that first section is true. I’ve been rejected hundreds of times and yet I have never been on a date. Like never. I’ve never had a match or a like on dating apps. Am I just not approaching enough? According to you, I should have seen some success.
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:41 PM
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That’s likely another issue. I’ve never been playful. Even as a kid I was serious. Now my friends know me as that stoic guy. Always calm cool and collected. I guess I just don’t know how to be playful.
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:38 PM
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I understand all that logically. I don’t care about others feelings (to an extent). My problem is executing it. I can have eye contact, give visual signs and even flirt a bit. But as I said it comes across as an artificial intelligence learning how to communicate. I have no problems with girls platonically. At all. It’s only when I try to be sexual, things break down. Also what does EQ mean?
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:46 PM
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Not op but in a safe boat. I don’t k ow what’s going on. Things can be going super well when I meet a girl only for her to say she doesn’t see me that way. I guess I struggle with creating tension. My girl friends say I do fine with flirting but they are as unsure as I am as to why I’m always turned down.
/r/seduction06/10/22 04:48 PM
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How can you come across with sexual energy? I try to but it looks like a robot learning to be sexual. Aka super forced and awkward.
/r/seduction06/10/22 04:44 PM
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Cold approaches are the best way to find that one girl who may find you attractive? No?
/r/seduction06/10/22 01:37 PM
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Thanks. I approach as much as I can but I will try out what you said.
/r/seduction06/10/22 12:56 AM
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I’m the same height
/r/seduction05/10/22 09:33 PM
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I’m a very independent person so I know how to value myself and put myself first. But this has just resulted in being known as that respectful guy. I dress nice, take care of my hair and work out daily. I try to flirt and girls say I’m good at it. When I try to get physical I get shunned or turned down. I have tried to learn which girls are a waste of time but it’s hard when every girl turns you down. No positive feedback or reinforcement. I’ll never be rich but I live comfortably and strive to …
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:14 PM
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How do I become an asshole
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:58 PM
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I’m an attractive guy who has never had a match
/r/seduction05/10/22 01:18 PM
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I understand but I just dont get along with alcohol. First I’m allergic to it. Then there’s a history of bad family problems with alcohol. Finally it’s just expensive.
/r/seduction04/10/22 11:26 PM
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So where did I go wrong. I didn’t drink in college but I went to every event and party. I made tons of friends. I did everything right but never did meet a girl who was interested
/r/seduction04/10/22 11:17 PM
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What if every girl pulls away when you try to break the touch barrier?
/r/seduction04/10/22 01:31 AM
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Thanks. I keep myself busy and social. I try to live a passionate life that isn’t boring. Is social media useful or needed to be attractive? I’ve never used it for personal stuff. I do have a photography instagram though.
/r/seduction01/10/22 11:20 PM
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I have friends and when I ask them it’s the same thing “your a great guy and if you just give it some time, you will be having to push away all the girls that are into you”. I’ve been told that since middle school and I am not in my mid 20s. I’m in a midsized city in the Pacific Northwest. I live by myself in a small house I rent. I have a car. I don’t drink or smoke. (Never have and never will)
/r/seduction01/10/22 10:35 PM
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So I am competent in climbing. Not a pro but I am better than the majority of people at my gym. Same with skiing. Not Olympic level but I raced in college and practically live on the slopes in the winter.
/r/seduction01/10/22 10:32 PM
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I’m 6’2”….
/r/seduction01/10/22 08:23 PM
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I’m tall and tend to be quiet. I disagree with you on that it’s a plus.
/r/seduction01/10/22 08:21 PM
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That’s why I made this post. To learn how to increase looks?
/r/seduction01/10/22 07:37 PM
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I honestly have never been on a date. I’d love to go on 10 dates a month
/r/seduction01/10/22 07:36 PM
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What makes you think that I don’t put effort into this?
/r/seduction01/10/22 07:36 PM
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Thanks. I’m 24 so I am early in my career but I am in forestry so I will never be rich per say. I have interesting hobbies and have a good social life. But my clothing style could always be improved. Thanks.
/r/seduction01/10/22 07:05 PM
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Thanks. This post was aimed at the things you can do easily. Such as the latter part of your response. The first few paragraphs have been done. I’m just looking for little additions I can do to be more attractive I will continue to work on your last few paragraphs.
/r/seduction01/10/22 07:02 PM
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What’s the difference between being good looking and attractive? For me, girls will reject me saying that they just aren’t attracted to me. And that other girls would be lucky to have me.
/r/seduction01/10/22 06:09 PM
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So for me, at least. I’ve put in work for years on being in shape. This post is mainly to catch the small simple things that we can do to attract girls. Things we can do to compliment the long term changes.
/r/seduction01/10/22 06:09 PM
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So for me. I am a positive person. I can hold conversations with anyone on just about any topic. I can make friends easily. Of all your list. I feel I can fit those quite well. My problem is that girls are simply not attracted to me.
/r/seduction30/09/22 07:32 PM
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I don’t even know what surgery I would need to get. Or how to afford it
/r/seduction30/09/22 04:35 PM
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Eh, it just likely means that I’m not as attractive as I think I am
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:08 PM
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What can you do if you have done everything possible to increase your looks (short of surgery) and girls still aren’t attracted to you. Not even girls who are in your looks range.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:35 PM
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I don’t really agree with this. I’m maybe a solid 4.5 on a good day. I feel amazing about myself. Yet girls who are in my looks range constantly reject me.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:34 PM
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I’m the the Pacific Northwest and I am a bit below average. Maybe a 4.5. I’m 6’2” and in really good shape but I have a bad face.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:31 PM
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I meet girls all the time. That was back in college. I rarely get those crushes anymore now that I’m in my mid 20s. I’ve never actually pulled. I liked her after getting to know her over a few weeks, asked her out, was turned down and just couldn’t get over her. I blame the late teen years.
/r/seduction29/09/22 05:38 PM
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I know that logically. I can rationalize that. But I still have had times in my past where it took me years to get over a crush who rejected me.
/r/seduction29/09/22 05:11 PM
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And if it doesn’t? It’s not like it’s super easy to date other girls.
/r/seduction29/09/22 04:55 PM
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I’ve struggled with this in the past. I went no contact for years and tried to find other girls but I still was unable to get her out of my head. It took 3 years before I no longer thought of her daily
/r/seduction29/09/22 04:54 PM
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What if it doesn’t get better?
/r/seduction29/09/22 03:10 AM
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What if your a 3 who is both not attracted to 3s as well as rejected by 3s?
/r/seduction29/09/22 03:06 AM
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How do you even learn your type?
/r/seduction29/09/22 03:04 AM
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Interesting. I may be confusing the two. But if you ask anyone to describe my identity they would say outdoorsy. I understand that I shouldn’t share all interests with a girl. But also, I work in the woods. I ski or climb every weekend. I have spent several summers backpacking thousands of miles. It’s kind of my identity at this point. I’m wanting someone who I can share all this with but those girls aren’t interested in me. I don’t think I could be in a relationship with someone who doesn’t und…
/r/seduction29/09/22 12:38 AM
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Interesting. I’m an outdoorsy guy looking to attract an outdoorsy type girl. I feel that I market myself. So it looks like I need to accept that the girls I’m interested in won’t be attracted to me. The thing is, I’m really not sure what girls are even interested in me in the first place.
/r/seduction28/09/22 10:50 PM
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What can you do if your marketing yourself to attract X type and you still only attract Y type?
/r/seduction28/09/22 01:58 PM
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I’ve been doing that for a while and have had nothing come from it
/r/seduction27/09/22 04:11 PM
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If I do all that then why don’t girls find me attractive?
/r/seduction27/09/22 02:58 AM
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I take feedback from friends as well as pay attention to what other guys do. So I am trying. But to be fair, I’m shooting in the dark. I’ve never had any positive feedback or positive experiences so nothing I have tried has stuck yet. So being blind trying to find a path? Yep, you could say that.
/r/seduction27/09/22 01:57 AM
1

What if you do try to adapt and change how you do things and still get rejected every time?
/r/seduction26/09/22 05:30 AM
19

How is it hard to believe? Some people can just be super unlucky
/r/seduction24/09/22 09:16 PM
6

So I have never said it was girls fault. It’s mine. I am skinny. I’m 6’2” and only 175 pounds. I’m eating myself broke to fix that. Other than that I’m pretty complete. I have a decent job but I’m looking to improve. I have social hobbies and a good friend circle. I work out several hours a day.
/r/seduction23/09/22 01:42 AM
8

Oh obviously. I just have practically no standards and will give many people a chance but even they turn me down.
/r/seduction23/09/22 01:24 AM
11

And what if those girls regularly reject you as well?
/r/seduction23/09/22 01:19 AM
2

What if your constantly rejected by 2s and 3s? I know for a fact I am not approaching girls out of my league yet I have hundreds of rejections and I have never had an ounce of success.
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:48 PM
2

I’ve been looking at this sub for 3 years or so now. I haven’t really improved with girls. Though I wouldn’t say this sub has had an effect on that
/r/seduction22/09/22 05:30 PM
1

No, I look like a normal guy
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:28 PM
1

Social life is good. Money is meh. I’m 24 no one expects me to be rich at my age. Looks are either good or bad. Some girls say I’m an 8, some say I’m a 2
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:43 PM
6

Really? I’ve never had it happen, my friends have never had it happen, and I’ve never seen it happen
/r/seduction18/09/22 04:21 PM
4

What? Girls don’t approach
/r/seduction18/09/22 04:00 PM
2

True. I’m just a guy on the internet. You don’t know who I am and you have no reason to believe anything I write. I have faults. I’m not perfect. I’m still working on improving myself. Though I will say that my friends are often confused about my singleness. It seems like everyone else from all walks of life manage to attract girls. Hell, even people in prison have girls in their life. There’s no logical reason as to why girls don’t find value in me beyond a friendship. But here I am. I am still…
/r/seduction18/09/22 06:27 AM
2

And if I’m not delusional by chance? Why do you doubt it? I have friends, I live a comfortable life. I am social and approach people first.
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:36 AM
1

Really skinny? I look normal. Think of a runner/swimmer or climber build. I know longer hair is less common but a lot of guys have long hair now so I don’t think I stick out like a sore thumb.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:44 AM
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I’m 6’2 170 pounds. Super lean. Rock climber. Single digit body fat. Full head of just below shoulder length hair. Dress is typical northwest hipster. Nice clothes with an outdoorsy vibe.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:07 AM
1

I’m a well put together confident guy who has no real social problems. I’m well liked and make friends easily. Girls say I’m a great catch but they say they just aren’t attracted to me.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:01 AM
2

Super unattractive and overweight girls reject me all the time.
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:55 AM
2

What can you do when increasing your attractiveness doesn’t increase reciprocal attention?
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:01 AM
1

What makes you think I’m desperate. I live my own life and ask girls out if I see fit. I occasionally do the cold approaches a few times a month. But mostly I live my life, enjoy my hobbies and don’t worry about going out of my way to try to meet girls. I meet enough as it is with my life.
/r/seduction17/09/22 06:27 PM
1

I’m actively trying to meet a girl. I am an slightly above average guy and I go for plain and average even below average girls. I have no standards for looks. I offer the whole package. Girls always tell me that I would make a perfect husband.
/r/seduction17/09/22 06:02 PM
1

Every guy will get rejected countless of times before he finds someone who is interested in him. That is implying that a guy will find someone who is interested in him. This is not guaranteed by any means. Some guys will go their entire lives without ever having a girl be interested in him.
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:37 PM
1

Yes. But most guys will eventually have a girl thing they are attractive
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:20 PM
1

Good job. For me, I consider success to be a rejection. So many girls straight up laugh at me or ignore my existence. So a rejection is actually the best outcome I occasionally get.
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:30 PM
1

Very true. But you have had some success? Have you? Willingness to get rejected gets old when you have no success.
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:26 PM
1

What does it take to be attractive to girls. Girls often tell me that while I’m attractive, they aren’t attracted to me
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:54 PM
1

What do you do then?
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:53 PM
1

What are you supposed to do when your at the age where it is no longer acceptable to have no experience?
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:53 PM
1

Ok but what if you have been rejected hundreds of times? I certainly can’t be missing the willingness to be rejected
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:52 PM
0

How many numbers? 300? Because I’ve played the numbers game
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:43 PM
1

If a girl is not attracted to you, there’s nothing you can do to change that.
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:34 PM
2

That requires a girl to be interested in you
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:24 PM
1

Looks. Despite all my efforts, I am still a pretty ugly guy myself. And girls don’t want ugly
/r/seduction15/09/22 01:38 PM
2

Ok then what? In college I led clubs and taught classes about things with my passion. Climbing. Now at work I am a director of a department managing 12 people. I’m confident and comfortable as you say it will help. But I am still alone and girls don’t see the same value in me that I do.
/r/seduction14/09/22 10:35 PM
1

Well that means I’d have to go back to college and get another degree. Which would me that I would be wasting a masters degree. Honestly if I go through life with having never going on a date. I can live with that I think.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:26 PM
1

Well not really. I’m trying to get a girls number or a date and failing.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:24 PM
1

I tried to find a Christian college with my program but couldn’t find any. Instead I was active in the Christian groups. Made lots of friends but girls as usual were not interested in me that way
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:24 PM
1

And if you missed your chance at marrying young?
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:01 PM
1

How do others know I’m waiting for marriage? It’s not like I tell them
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:00 PM
5

So I ask this sincerely. I am M24 also waiting for marriage. I live in the PNW. Obviously not the most religious area. This has caused problems that the few Christian girls are already married. You say to move but that seems like a huge struggle to me. I work in forestry so my industry is where I live. I just seem to be between a rock and a hard place.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:46 PM
1

My goal is to have the girl engaged in a short conversation and not ignore me. Small goal for many of you, to to me, even this goal seems impossible
/r/seduction11/09/22 02:50 AM
4

Do you have a job? If I try really hard I’ll only meet and chat with 5 girls a day due to lack of time.
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:33 PM
1

Non existent
/r/seduction01/09/22 01:14 AM
2

In college I was a climbing instructor at the local climbing gym on campus. I taught most of the climbing classes as well as other outdoor hobby classes.
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:01 PM
1

Yeah no one has any idea. Just a normal approach, walk up and say hi and stuff. Places like parks, farmers markets, shopping plazas etc
/r/seduction17/08/22 01:20 PM
1

No. I’m 6’2” and decentish looking. I’m not brad pit but I take care of myself and am in shape. Body is like your typical rock climber or swimmer build. I do have longer hair though. It’s shoulder length and slightly curly, think of heath ledger, ish.
/r/seduction17/08/22 06:03 AM
1

Pacific Northwest of the United States Going by your counting method, I’d only have 10 to 15 approaches where a conversation was held. Of those the flirting felt forced. The few times girls flirt back with me they rejected me because they didn’t see me that way
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:45 AM
1

Another reply I posted said that nearly all the girls either ignored me or said “sorry not interested” Like I approach a girl and say “hey how’s your day going” or “what booth did you pick up those tomatoes at” General friendly openings and nearly all girls instantly shut me down.
/r/seduction17/08/22 04:29 AM
1

Outdoor public spaces. Parks, farmers markets, nice shopping plazas etc. Usually say something like “hey, how’s it going” or more personalized like “I saw that you picked up some nice tomatoes, what booth are they at?” Most of the time it’s either no response or “sorry not interested “
/r/seduction16/08/22 11:48 PM
1

This year. 163 approaches 7 flirting 6 asked on a date 0 dates
/r/seduction16/08/22 10:49 PM
8

Get rejected more. It’s a numbers game. I have several hundred rejections and it doesn’t phase me anymore.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:49 PM
3

Oh yay another stereotypical advice post
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:07 AM
3

What if every cologn smell gives me extreme headaches. Is the pain worth it?
/r/seduction14/08/22 12:45 AM
2

If I have to do all this to even have a chance a getting a girl. I should just give up. I’m tall, in shape, dress clean and sharp. I work outside so while I have a tan, I work in the woods meaning my skin isn’t a baby’s butt. Looks like if I buy a watch all the girls will swarm around me
/r/seduction14/08/22 12:44 AM
1

Sure. Generally walk up to a girl say hi and ask how her day is going. Nice and friendly. That is usually responded with a not interested. There are places like parks, on the street, in shopping/farmers markets etc. Or I meet a girl doing a hobby strike up a conversation and chat a bit. When I try to make advances I’m usually met with a “sorry but I don’t see you that way” despite having her give me the typical signs of interest like playing with hair, laughing at my bad jokes and eye contact.
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:34 PM
2

Not yet
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:26 PM
2

I’ll ask friends again for an honest assessment. I know I need to approach more and I am working on it despite my busy life. So far in August I have about 50 approaches.
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:17 PM
2

One
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:53 PM
1

Not op but I’m almost 25 and have never hugged a girl and have always been rejected. Career is forestry. Fitness is really good. Hobbies are most things outdoorsy. Climbing, skiing, hunting, etc. I also build models. Finances are solid, not perfect but I’m comfortable.
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:42 PM
1

I just moved here to get out of the small town I lived in after college.
/r/seduction11/08/22 03:10 AM
8

Hi, how is it going. It has yet to work
/r/seduction10/08/22 09:37 PM
1

August? So far 55 I’d do more, but I literally am out of time in a day
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:29 PM
2

My goal is to meet a lifelong friend and spouse. Pretending isn’t a way to start a relationship
/r/seduction10/08/22 02:50 AM
5

I agree. I’m 24 and I’ve been rejected 250 times or so, I don’t keep track. Not a single number. I keep tweaking my approach and lines hoping something will stick. Approaches have slowed down due to how busy my life is. Where I’m at? I’m starting a career in forestry with a job that jumped started my career by 10 years or so. I’m not rich but I’m comfortable. I live an exciting life. I’m in amazing shape. I’m active in social and church groups. I’m looking for dates and marriage someday. I have …
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:52 PM
3

How can I figure out what I’m doing wrong?
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:11 PM
3

Bingo. There’s obviously a problem with me but not a single person has been able to figure it out
/r/seduction09/08/22 03:05 PM
11

I’m near a college and despite being 24, I don’t mesh with them at all
/r/seduction09/08/22 02:58 PM
1

Thanks. I’m still approaching and learning. My goal is to get a number or contact by the end of the year. I feel it’s doable since I have never gotten that before and my current rejection rate is 100%
/r/seduction05/08/22 03:39 PM
1

It’s not the bulky muscle girls want. I can do a one arm pull up off of 2 fingers, but my bicep is like 10 inches and my bench is barely over my body weight
/r/seduction05/08/22 12:26 AM
1

For me yes. Since I have decided that I need to change, I’ve done a lot. I gave up hobbies that limit muscle growth (running climbing) and started to lift weights. I dumped my introverted and married friends and started drinking so I’d fit in in bars. I have started to approach much more girls than I did in the past. It’s only been 2 months and I am still adapting to the extreme change but I will get there and my hard work will pay off.
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:34 PM
3

Haven’t read it so I can’t say anything about it
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:31 PM
70

I’ve been doing this for years and haven’t met a girl
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:24 PM
14

Honestly it’s not that useful for most guys. Sure if your a depressed neckbeard then you can use it to improve but if your a well functioning guy it won’t help you.
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:24 PM
1

I mean I’m only 25 but I’m well on my way to being 40. I’ve never been on a date or even kissed a girl. I have hugged a girl once though. I am regularly rejected by 2/10s
/r/seduction02/08/22 03:39 PM
1

But sometimes those guys have faced rejection for years and never did get any success
/r/seduction02/08/22 03:23 PM
1

You would be surprised. I often host parties where no one invited shows up
/r/seduction02/08/22 01:21 AM
2

I have done that. Have had lots of rejections
/r/seduction02/08/22 01:12 AM
27

I also have a hard time with abundance mentality. For me it’s hard to have abundance with many girls when I struggle to just get one girl
/r/seduction01/08/22 05:01 PM
1

Ok my expectations are for a girl. Be in shape Be interested in me and my life Share m some of my hobbies. Specifically hiking and camping. That’s it. I do t think that’s unrealistic but I should probably lower them Again. The dick wants what the dick wants. I don’t know if I can change that
/r/seduction01/08/22 01:27 PM
1

I’m just being honest. I know I’m a catch but despite all my hard work I’m still not an attractive guy. I do t know what else I can do to be at least average
/r/seduction01/08/22 01:15 PM
1

How though?
/r/seduction01/08/22 01:14 PM
1

I don’t do that anyways
/r/seduction01/08/22 01:12 PM
3

What if your a 3 who is attracted to 8s? How do I become attracted to more girls?
/r/seduction01/08/22 06:36 AM
8

Personally I’m not attracted to either of them in the slightest
/r/seduction01/08/22 06:34 AM
1

I refuse to calibrate certain angles or go through 50 hoops just to get a number. Not worth it. If a girl likes me she will be open to what ever approach I take.
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:40 PM
1

Again, if a girl is interested, it doesn’t matter if you have an optimized angle. If a girl is not interested, there’s nothing you can do to get a number.
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:10 PM
2

That’s 2% which is a good number
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:41 PM
1

So now you have to approach girls from a specific angle to just have a chance? If a girl likes you there’s nothing you can do wrong. If she doesn’t like you there’s nothing you can do right.
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:40 PM
1

That’s a bit over 2% which is a good time percentage.
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:39 PM
2

Odd. I never once stepped foot in the library at my college but I learned a lot. I did the whole college experience and never found a girl. Somehow I did it backwards
/r/seduction30/07/22 10:58 PM
1

I’m 24 so I’m between millennial and gen z. The thing is I’m not dating anyone. In my experience girls who are younger than my are more high maintenance than girls who are older than me.
/r/seduction30/07/22 02:50 AM
1

All that makes sense and I tend to do all of it. I’ve done some pretty impressive things and have the ability to connect that confidence into other areas of life. I’ve been told that I am my best and most attractive where I feel most comfortable and at home. Which unfortunately tends to be in the middle of a blizzard in the mountains with no one around.
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:35 PM
1

If I knew I wouldn’t be here. I have asked my friends (guys and gals) and they just say that girls think am attractive and good on paper yet they don’t feel anything for me despite them wanting to. How do I fix that? Being good on paper but not good enough to feel anything for?
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:20 PM
1

I’m social but that is likely my weak spot. I’m tall and in phenomenal shape so my looks are above average. I can flirt and I try to but still talking to girls is like talking to a brick wall. I can only do so much if girls just aren’t interested
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:09 PM
1

Thanks. I’m still experimenting and developing my clothing style. I can’t do any cologne due to headaches from the smell so I’ll have to carry weight from style. I feel I have a good hair style and I can’t grow any facial hair so unfortunately no beard for me.
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:53 PM
1

I’m in shape. Adventurous, outgoing, funny, solid life foundations (I’m 24 so no McMansion yet or millions in the bank), social, personable, interesting hobbies and experiences.
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:19 PM
1

Yeah that’s where I must fall short. Other than a hose I’m not sure if I make a girl wet. I try to flirt and create tension but it never works
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:18 PM
1

Every other climber and runner attracts girls. So your point is invalid. Every other guy who wears button down shirts from time to time attracts girls.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:39 PM
1

How? What do you mean by sex appeal?
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:12 PM
1

You say I need to look like the hulk so I’m out of luck since I don’t want to look like that
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:30 PM
1

Whenever I ask friends they just say that I’d be a perfect husband and I haven’t met the right girl
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:28 PM
2

As in height? I’m already tall. Face? Perhaps a nose surgery or jaw surgery but idk how I can justify the cost
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:23 PM
1

I’m 6’2” so that must be the reason
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:22 PM
1

I do all that
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:21 PM
1

I know the signals. It’s quite obvious to me. Playing with hair, eyes, touch, wanting to know about you etc. most of my friends are married because of me telling them that a girl is into them.
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:20 PM
9

I’m a young adult in the states. Maybe I’ll have enough money to afford to travel when I’m older then I’ll try that
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:19 PM
1

True. I live in a city of 250k people. I work in forestry so I’m not sure if I can go any bigger though
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:17 PM
1

I’m no longer on apps. Never got matches so I gave up to improve my self esteem. I’ll send a link to an album of my last hinge.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:48 AM
2

Yeah. I have a good friend group who says I’m normal so I will chalk it up to looks.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:47 AM
14

I’m not saying I’m perfect. I have my faults. But I see other guys who have a life of problems with girls all the time. I shouldn’t have to be perfect to attract girls if other guys can do it when they aren’t perfect.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:46 AM
7

True. I’m not interested in being the hulk. Me best friend is the strongest guy I know and can’t even bench 400. Personally I’m currently training for a 50 mile ultra marathon. Where can I meet these wealthy people? I am in the wrong career path to ever be rich and all my friends are working class folk.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:44 AM
31

I’d rather not be taller. Finding clothes is hard enough as it is
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:31 AM
1

I’m open to ideas
/r/seduction24/07/22 02:27 AM
14

I think I would. I find that it’s obvious when girls like someone. I’ve had to let my friends know when girls have liked them because they didn’t notice. Though I could only be blind to signals sent my way?
/r/seduction24/07/22 01:48 AM
44

I have goals. This year I want to run 50 miles or do a sub 3 hour marathon. Also want to climb a 5.13. Also looking at changing jobs and moving so I’m looking forward to what companies offer me.
/r/seduction24/07/22 01:14 AM
7

My hobbies are mostly outdoorsy and things. I spend a lot of time at the climbing gym. Social circle is solid. Regular exposure is harder to do since I’m no longer in school. Most of my social group is married so I have to seek out single girls which is very hard. I have zero intention of looking like Thor. I work out but it’s rock climbing, running and swimming. My goal for the year is to complete a 50 mile ultra or a sub 3 hour marathon (if my legs allow it) or climb at 5.13
/r/seduction24/07/22 01:12 AM
16

I’m 24 so I’m still early in my career and figuring out what I want to specialize in. But I’m healthy, active, social and well balanced. But still not attracting girls.
/r/seduction24/07/22 12:14 AM
85

I honestly don’t know what more I could improve on
/r/seduction23/07/22 11:50 PM
3

Nope, I’ve never been targeted by a girl
/r/seduction23/07/22 11:44 PM
5

Ah I see. The thing is, I have no idea what I can do to improve myself. I feel that I am pretty optimized right now in my life
/r/seduction23/07/22 11:28 PM
6

As in? Get better is kind of vague
/r/seduction23/07/22 11:19 PM
300

I would agree with you, but I have a question. What if women don’t ever choose you?
/r/seduction23/07/22 10:54 PM
0

My sister is a solid 8, she often sends me her tinder asking for tips as she gets no likes or matches.
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:54 AM
0

Fake being extroverted
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:53 AM
-2

Yes. If you want to attract girls you need to be in the top 5%. Otherwise you will only get a girl when your 40 and they are desperate enough to go for average to above average guys
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:47 AM
5

What if your in your mid 20 living alone in the suburbs?
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:53 PM
2

Forester. I’m overworked and looking for new companies.
/r/seduction17/07/22 10:56 PM
2

Obviously something is off but no one can pin point it. My girl friends say that I am a perfect husband and great catch but they say that girls simply aren’t attracted to me that way. I’ll dm my hinge and see if you notice anything off about me
/r/seduction17/07/22 10:33 PM
3

Ok I work from 6 am to 5 pm and then work out from 6 to 8 pm. Weekends I have been camping. This year I have maybe 200 rejections. When do you expect me to find 5 extra hours in a day do approach girls?
/r/seduction17/07/22 10:22 PM
2

It’s been a busy month at work and a few weekend camping trips means only 10 to 15 approaches so far in july
/r/seduction17/07/22 10:12 PM
6

Why would you say that. I’m just explaining my situation. A well put together adult who struggles at attracting women.
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:26 PM
6

I rent a duplex by myself. I talk to girls every day. Flirt with some. And am not afraid of being rejected.
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:18 PM
4

People have said that same thing since I was 15. One would think that I would have met someone who was interested in me and vice Vera’s by now. But it hasn’t happened yet. Will people tell me this when I am 30, 40, 50 and in the same boat as I am in now?
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:18 PM
3

I’m 24 and single because no girl is interested in anything beyond a platonic friendship with me
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:14 PM
3

Why do people always assume guys like OP and I are overweight antisocial and can’t be a functioning adult? I know I am worthy of a girlfriend and a relationship. Girls don’t know I’m worthy for them it seems.
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:12 PM
11

I am 24 i can afford a house but choose not to due to life situation. I have a nice haircut I work out 3 hours a day I drive a newer top of the line pickup. I have an amazing social life I am invisible to girls. What do I do next?
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:11 PM
2

I have gained three pounds in the last month! Which is a record for me. I am now 6’2” and 153 pounds. Last night I did a 50 pound weighted pull up which is a new best for me as well.
/r/seduction13/07/22 05:30 PM
2

Just noticed we have chatted in dms. Yeah I know that you don’t need to be in a relationship to have kids. That works for some people but I want to be married before I think about kids. I have never been able to attract people so I am not able to compare with you on that one lol
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:30 PM
1

Almost 25
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:03 PM
2

My mental health is fine. As I said dating is only a portion of one’s life. Since I have never dated I don’t need a girl to make me happy and fulfilled. And besides, look through Reddit. There’s hundreds of posts about people being unhappy in a relationship. Relationships aren’t a must for happiness
/r/seduction13/07/22 01:53 PM
22

Oof. Not me. I’m the youngest guy at the office by 40 years. There’s no girls either.
/r/seduction11/07/22 02:04 AM
2

Girls never give signals
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:39 PM
5

Instructions unclear. Ended up backpacking from Mexico to canada
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:24 AM
2

I mean I fish, but that’s not really that social to start with. But I am patient and I keep telling myself that if the universe wants me married, I will meet someone. I try the whole approach thing and focus on dating but it has only led me to constant rejection and I can only take so much of it. I don’t know how much more I can take.
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:15 PM
1

What if you don’t meet people doing this? I am also 24 and I have an active social life with friends and their friends. But everyone is married it seems.
/r/seduction04/07/22 04:47 PM
41

I am 24 and have never been on a date. I hate to compare myself to my friends but at the same time I feel like I am missing out since everyone I know around my age is married and starting families. There’s nothing I want more than to have a family and it sucks when everyone else is able to do so and your the one single guy everywhere you go.
/r/seduction04/07/22 04:45 PM
3

I am extremely fit. Think long distance runner body type mixed with rock climber. Lanky and lean but still strong. I am 6’2”. I make 54k a year about. Enough to have my own place. I can sort of flirt. Not perfect but who is?
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:14 AM
1

I mean, I have a good social life so I am not an outcast and have a good personality. I also live an exciting life, or so I think. I have hobbies, have traveled a lot, and am able to enjoy doing all sorts of things.
/r/seduction30/06/22 11:30 PM
1

Explain how the attraction works? I dont know. I wake up one day and suddenly feel very attracted to someone I have never thought of that way before. It becomes a massive crush and when they turn me down its like I am torn apart. I obviously dont want to hug every girl. Those experiences are when I have tried to hug close friends. Story time. I met this girl at the climbing gym in college winter 2020 and chatted a bit. Nothing much. We ended up by chance having the same internship that summer an…
/r/seduction30/06/22 11:27 PM
2

How? I am 24 and live on my own in my own place. I am still undesirable. It hasn’t helped me at all.
/r/seduction30/06/22 10:24 PM
5

Backwards for me actually. I moved out aft high school but I was in college and had roommates with my apartment. I approached all the time. Now that I am a year out of school and have a house by myself I find myself approaching less. Not because I don’t want to but because I no longer have as much time as I used to. Between work and chores I don’t have much time.
/r/seduction30/06/22 10:23 PM
1

So I am attracted to people. It’s just that by the time I’m attracted to them they only see me as a friend. What am I supposed to do other than try to fake it early on ? I know I can hug others but every time I have tried I have been turned away. That just kills confidence and I try to fake it but some things you can’t fake. Truth is, I need to find a girls who is also slow to the romance thing and is willing to take the lead. However I’m not sure they exist.
/r/seduction29/06/22 01:21 PM
1

I don’t know the exact therapy but Originally went in for depression and stress with college. Therapists just told me when I went into my romantic struggles, that some people never do find anyone and I’m not broken, I just need to accept a bachelor life. My motivation to flirt and make advances is because I feel I have to if I am ever to find anyone. Yes it’s a gamble if I feel anything but at that point it would still be early in any sort of relationship. I know I shouldn’t have to fake being s…
/r/seduction29/06/22 05:44 AM
1

I don’t know the exact therapy but Originally went in for depression and stress with college. Therapists just told me when I went into my romantic struggles, that some people never do find anyone and I’m not broken, I just need to accept a bachelor life. My motivation to flirt and make advances is because I feel I have to if I am ever to find anyone. Yes it’s a gamble if I feel anything but at that point it would still be early in any sort of relationship. I know I shouldn’t have to fake being s…
/r/seduction29/06/22 05:43 AM
2

So first things first the reason why it’s sometimes a few months is because I am broken. I rarely am attracted to a girl right off the bat like I should be. I have tried therapy for years with no results. Because of this any flirting I do comes across as scripted or more friendly than sexual. Because of my inability and lack of experience to be sexual I can’t really fake it that well. It’s like programming a computer how to flirt. Fake it till you make it doesn’t work when you have never hugged.…
/r/seduction29/06/22 04:51 AM
2

Sure. Met at all sorts of places, football games, parties, climbing gyms, trivia bar nights, clubs etc. What I say heavily depends on where I’m at. At the gym I’ll chat about a climbing route for example. Say I chat and flirt with a girl at a football game, I’d ask “I’m going to x for food after, want to join?” Rejections are usually “sorry not interested”, “I’m not really in a place to go on dates now”, “not attracted to you” or “I don’t see you that way”. I also get breadcrumbs often. Exchange…
/r/seduction27/06/22 07:55 PM
1

Body fat if I had to guess would be under 10%. Lean and lanky but not bulky so the picture guides are harder to visualize. I do have visible abs
/r/seduction27/06/22 02:51 PM
1

6,2” 170
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:32 PM
1

The girls I am attracted to want a clean look. The girls I am attracted to don’t want the hulk they want someone who can keep up with them on a run. Girls I am attracted to want someone who is genuine and respectful.
/r/seduction26/06/22 11:21 PM
1

I dress clean, I work out 3 to 4 hours a day, I am emotionally mature and I have strong social skills. If you think I’m dorky, your the first.
/r/seduction26/06/22 05:31 PM
9

I asked out 100 girls for a test once. I had one hundred rejections. How big of a number do guys like me need?
/r/seduction26/06/22 07:15 AM
13

For me having female friends only has made me come across as a player and others just assume that I’m dating the girl I am with.
/r/seduction24/06/22 08:27 PM
2

So are you saying 90% of guys don’t shower or brush their teeth?
/r/seduction23/06/22 05:26 AM
2

I don’t know why people have such a hard time believing that some guys have no luck. True, I wouldn’t believe me either if I was in your shoes. I guess it’s a just world fallacy. Anyways, I have no excuse as I also know people who fit your average south Asian type who have no problems with girls. I’m 6’2” and 170 pounds. Single digit body fat. Very typical long distance runner and rock climber look. I am active in the climbing community as well as getting into the mountain biking scene. I am a f…
/r/seduction21/06/22 08:31 PM
1

On good weeks. Like last week I started chatting with a new girl that showed up to trivia, hit it off and thought she was flirting with me. So asked her to coffee and was told she doesn’t like me that way.
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:43 PM
1

Not as many in the last year after college but still several a week. These are girls I make a real connection with since I’m not attractive enough for cold approaches
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:53 PM
1

Ok what if none of those girls I am attracted to and meet my standards are attracted to me or like me? And I don’t have unrealistic standards since I personally meet all of them myself.
/r/seduction21/06/22 01:52 AM
10

And even this isn’t 100% guaranteed. I am extremely in shape and was as social as one could be, yet I never met a girl who was receptive to me or liked me back.
/r/seduction21/06/22 01:51 AM
1

What’s that?
/r/seduction20/06/22 01:12 PM
1

Yeah it sucks that I will never be enough for the girls I am attracted to
/r/seduction20/06/22 04:58 AM
1

Probably a 4. True rate me put me below average
/r/seduction20/06/22 04:03 AM
1

I do and often. No matter what I do or try it’s the same continual rejection
/r/seduction20/06/22 03:23 AM
2

My first year of college I grew 3 inches and my face thinned out. I also learned style. Honestly nothing changed with my non existent dating life.
/r/seduction19/06/22 11:47 PM
3

I wish. I have all that and I am still unable to find a girl who is interested in me
/r/seduction15/06/22 02:38 PM
2

Not that I’m aware of. Obviously shower daily, wear deodorant and brush my teeth. I stay groomed and in good shape. It’s gotten to the point that my friends are confused.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:58 AM
2

It may be socially acceptable for others, but whenever I have tried it’s the same thing. The girl shys away or says no thanks
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:33 AM
2

I’m almost 25. None of my girl friends are huggers/won’t hug other guys since they are married. And I have been rejected by every girl I have been interested in.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:21 AM
0

Granted I’ve only been trying for 9 years or so since I’ve turned 15/16
/r/seduction13/06/22 08:44 PM
4

3 months? That’s nothing. Try me, I’m going on 25 years
/r/seduction13/06/22 08:34 PM
16

You can’t miss what you’ve never had. I’ve never even hugged a girl so when I get rejected it’s just like oh well no big deal.
/r/seduction13/06/22 01:41 PM
0

And then your a creep
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:28 AM
1

The few times I’ve been asked I reply with a joke answer. “How about you ask again in the morning (wink)”, or “never, but it’s up for auction” I honestly don’t know why girls ask me this. It seems private and it always awkward if I tell them the truth that I have no experience whatsoever.
/r/seduction13/06/22 02:25 AM
0

My meaning is friends, family, my hobbies and work. I won’t give up until I complete my goal of hugging a girl. Then I will be set for life.
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:36 AM
1

I’m 24, almost 25
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:17 AM
1

So I get what your saying about projecting needinesses. I try not to but as you say it’s hard to find that balance. I’ll ask a friend to watch me sometime and help. True rateme said I was a 3.5-4 (on an alt account). My lack of any likes on tinder confirms this. Even average guys get an occasional like or two. I am in amazing physical shape. More endurance and lean over brute strength and size, since I’m a long distance runner and climber. Hair is stylish I think. Mix between surfer and long hai…
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:06 AM
2

I’m a below average guy on the looks scale. No denying it. I have a solid life for myself at 24. I do everything I can to meet and get to know girls but none of them are ever interested in me at all. I’ve even had a few girls pretend to flirt and be attracted to me just to laugh at me when they break the news that they were faking because they wanted to see how I would react with my hopes up.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:55 AM
2

Attracting anyone
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:42 AM
1

Such as?
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:41 AM
-1

So should I lie to a girl and pretend to find her attractive? Plus girls in my league don’t find me attractive.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:40 AM
0

No you won’t. If you don’t have luck or have any experience in high school or college (if you went) you won’t have any luck when you have a successful life.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:39 AM
0

Even they aren’t attracted to me. Plus I could never date anyone I wasn’t attracted to. If she found out I didn’t find her attractive that’s terrible.
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:38 AM
2

What if your quality of life is already amazing?
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:37 AM
1

What are your options if no girls are into you and you can’t make girls like you?
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:37 AM
1

Yeah?
/r/seduction10/06/22 04:47 PM
1

As a solid 3-4 who’s only attracted to attractive girls, what are my realistic options if I’ve done everything to increase my smv?
/r/seduction10/06/22 01:03 PM
1

What if the girls your attracted to, aren’t attracted to you back?
/r/seduction10/06/22 01:01 PM
2

I have 6 pics. First is the photo shoot 2. Candid beach pic (cold beach not shirtless) 3. Sitting next to a fire 4. This one changes, currently a pic of me “firefighting”, wildfire mop up. 5. Me with friends at outdoor bar 6. Meh pic of me climbing. Trying to get a better one. I think I have enough “action” shots. Though all but one were taken with a phone. Granted it was a good phone.
/r/seduction10/06/22 02:44 AM
2

It’s the rejection I hear about half the time. I’d say a couple times a week.
/r/seduction09/06/22 09:55 PM
12

I did a professional shoot for my college graduation and use the best pic from that as my dating app opener. It has yielded zero matches
/r/seduction09/06/22 07:42 PM
1

Eye contact and chatting is just fine. Light flirting is ignored. Physical contact is brushed off and unwelcome. The few times I’ve asked for a dance (not much of a club or dance person) was turned down or straight up ignored.
/r/seduction06/06/22 03:19 AM
1

Literally no matches. I get a like every few months from a robot or a guy trying to sell drugs. But other than that, nothing.
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:47 PM
1

Honestly it’s like talking to a brick wall, girls are friendly and acknowledge my existence but that’s about it. There’s always room for improvement. My friends do say that I’m doing a decent enough job at flirting and they are confused at my struggles.
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:46 PM
1

I am 6’2” lean build at 165 pounds (runner and climber). Not balding, have long surfer dude hair. Absolute huge nose (saving money for a nose job) I make 54k a year. Plenty enough to live comfortably and am saving for a house within a couple years. I’ve never even had a like sent to me on tinder. Never had a match ever on any app even though I pay for the premium versions from time to time.
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:17 PM
1

True rate me has put me in the 3 to 4 range (alt account) so I am not good looking. I generally have assured confident vibes and make girls comfortable since I can form friendships easily.
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:12 PM
1

I’m 24, in the best physical shape of my life, super social and outgoing, have interesting hobbies and interests, and have a solid career building.
/r/seduction05/06/22 09:43 PM
1

Ok what can you do to increase your value if you have done just about everything that can be suggested and are still low value?
/r/seduction05/06/22 09:37 PM
5

Yeah, I’m my experience it’s 9 guys to 1 girl
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:04 PM
1

Personally I put myself and my desires first. I don’t care about what others think. I fully believe that I am the best person I can be. Still, I don’t fully agree with you since I have yet to meet anyone who was interested in me because I am who I am.
/r/seduction05/06/22 04:17 PM
4

Maybe it’s because being yourself isn’t a ticket to get success? I may not attract people out who I am therefore I should change myself to get interest.
/r/seduction05/06/22 05:09 AM
3

Ok I am 100% myself and girls aren’t interested, what’s next?
/r/seduction04/06/22 08:39 PM
1

What if you’ve done all those steps and still fail?
/r/seduction03/06/22 03:23 AM
2

Imitate others? Done. I went to a concert last week and I looked like most other guys who had girls with them. What works for others isn’t a guarantee that it will work for you. I just am still trying to figure out what does work for me. I’ll dm some pics of me.
/r/seduction02/06/22 09:15 PM
3

Romantic happiness is only a small part of my satisfaction in life. There’s things like family, friends, career, personal goals and so much more that goes into overall happiness. Just because I’m not happy with my lack of dating life doesn’t mean I’m not unhappy with my life.
/r/seduction02/06/22 09:12 PM
2

like 10 or so
/r/seduction02/06/22 12:56 PM
1

Move on. There’s plenty of other girls.
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:12 AM
10

Didn’t work
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:11 AM
1

Yeah, never. Not even in high school. As far as I’m aware, not a single girl I have met would have given me the chance.
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:11 AM
23

Ok then what? I’m completely satisfied with myself and feel amazing. Still doesn’t make girls interested in me.
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:10 AM
1

Yeah, my city has 250k people in the metes area, second largest in the state. I work in forestry so this is about as large of a city I can be in.
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:12 PM
3

I’m a year out of college in a midsized city who decided to get platinum. I have a feeling that tinder randomly selects people who pay for platinum to get the boost and the rest of us don’t get anything. This means people like you spread positive things about it to guys like me who tinder will never allow platinum to turn on for.
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:30 PM
1

Interesting. I do have some great stories. Being stuck in a blizzard at donner pass, rooftop 4th of July party in San Francisco, hitchhiking in the Southern California desert, and so on. I try to share these and other stories in conversation when the opportunity arises when it would fit in. I just normally get an “well ok” response. I’m not a bad story teller either since my friends love to ask me out stuff. But I will try to be more engaging in the future
/r/seduction26/05/22 07:44 PM
1

Proximity, touch, laughing at bad jokes, playing with hair, eye contact etc. Conversations flow naturally if I connect with her, but that’s why she sees me as a friend I think. Since she never shows typical interest. I want to meet girls to get to know them. If a date comes, then yay. For this reason I don’t think I am too outcome dependent. Girls want to hang around me and be my friends.
/r/seduction26/05/22 06:30 PM
1

I’m just trying to get one girl, a date. For now. When that happens then I can adjust my goals for more. And in my area of the world I have the basic style like everyone else who does well with girls.
/r/seduction26/05/22 06:03 PM
1

I’ve dm you in the past. Since then I have upped my work out to 3 hours a day and started to lean into the outdoorsy hipster look.
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:46 PM
1

Possibly, what could I do? I’m tall, have healthy skin and hair, work out daily, and wear nice clothes.
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:55 PM
1

Ahhh. Don’t know the term. Yeah I do that, but like everything else it’s just a cold response as if she doesn’t know I’m doing anything and ignoring it
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:42 PM
139

Oof, the only ones I have ever received is 6 and 12. But in seriousness, a girl can do all these and still not be interested in you.
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:30 PM
1

What’s kinoing? I am asking for numbers yes, but only if they seem at least decently receptive. But mainly I am trying to get to know them as a person since I was told i need to do that.
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:28 PM
1

Nope. I get these all the time from girls, but they aren’t interested in me
/r/seduction25/05/22 05:58 PM
1

Bio pretty much says that I am active and outdoorsy with pros and cons for humor.
/r/seduction25/05/22 01:10 PM
1

How do you improve your looks? I wear nice clothes, I have nice hair, I work out daily.
/r/seduction25/05/22 04:06 AM
5

Ok then what. My pics get 8 plus on photofeeler. I have followed the picture guides that are given and I still don’t get matches.
/r/seduction25/05/22 04:05 AM
3

Yeah it makes sense that a girl would pretend to like me before rejecting me. Like how a cat plays with a mouse before killing it.
/r/seduction24/05/22 02:45 PM
3

Then why is it that people compliment me on my looks all the time? Are people just pretending to be nice to me?
/r/seduction24/05/22 01:56 PM
1

Sure, I’ll dm you my hinge
/r/seduction24/05/22 02:29 AM
5

M 24, Pacific Northwest, I’m stereotypical outdoorsy guy number 534
/r/seduction24/05/22 02:08 AM
2

Yep, I’m an attractive guy and I have never gotten a match on any app
/r/seduction24/05/22 01:51 AM
1

Yeah I’ve tried 3 therapists. All have told me that I need to accept that I may be a person who never finds someone and that my life wasn’t dealt those cards. It is an insecurity with me. So many girls have laughed when I’ve asked them out saying what makes you think I’d date someone like (or looks like) you. I’ve been teased my whole life for being that goofy looking kid/fellow. Friends try to say things like “dude you look awesome in that picture” but I know that they are only trying to make m…
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:34 AM
2

I mean, I have had dating coaches and wingmen give up with me because they don’t know what I’m doing wrong. And filming is really creepy. I get to know people because I have no problems making friends and many girls tell me they wish their boyfriends and husbands were like me and that they are surprised how a guy like me is single. My friends will compliment me on my style and looks often so I am just confused at my constant failures. Honestly there is nothing you can say that I haven’t heard be…
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:03 AM
2

Yeah, I try to do all that. My problem is that I am not really attracted to people I just meet. Sure they are cute but that’s all. So any being forward I do doesn’t come off as sincere. The few times I have tried to touch a girl I get called a creep. Despite doing everything the same way other guys do. I can flirt and get them to engage with me but as soon as I try to be playful they reject me. It comes down to attractiveness. I am simply not attractive enough for girls to want to have anything …
/r/seduction22/05/22 11:14 PM
3

I often try to. But I have found that if a girl gets to know me better before I ask her out she will only see me as a friend
/r/seduction22/05/22 10:48 PM
2

What if you want girls in the 4-6 range?
/r/seduction20/05/22 03:06 PM
2

Hell even in person as well
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:18 PM
1

I can’t even get a date with less attractive girls
/r/seduction19/05/22 12:36 PM
4

A date
/r/seduction19/05/22 12:35 PM
1

Yeah pretty much. My college roommate was 5’5” and slightly overweight. Yet he had a new tinder hookup every week. I know I must be doing something wrong. Yet none of my friends will tell me. No one knows what it is. I’ve even had a dating coach m, who helped turn my roommates life around, say he couldn’t pin what I was doing wrong.
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:38 AM
1

I’m social and friendly. Do everything “right” (or not with my record). as well as have my life together. I’m decently attractive and go for completely average girls that all my friends say I’m too good for. Yet always rejected and ignored
/r/seduction19/05/22 12:01 AM
-3

In my case it goes like this “he has girl friends? That means I will also only see him as a friend”
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:29 PM
1

So I don’t have any self esteem, good or bad. Even my friends say that they have never seen girls show any signs of interest in me. Hell, girls make it so obvious when they flirt with other guys. Even in high school when everyone’s hormones were raging I was left out. I’ve been to parties when I was in college were there were three times as many girls as guys and was completely ignored, when every other guy had someone.
/r/seduction16/05/22 11:03 PM
0

What if your normal weight and in shape but still don’t attract anyone, and if I do, it’s someone who is severely overweight
/r/seduction16/05/22 01:21 PM
4

Well I must not exist since I attract no one
/r/seduction16/05/22 01:19 PM
2

How do you figure out what needs to change?
/r/seduction15/05/22 11:18 PM
1

Lol doesn’t work
/r/seduction15/05/22 12:42 AM
2

And if you do all that and still are no ones type
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:48 PM
0

What if your waiting for marriage?
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:48 PM
1

What about when you have done that and still don’t have success
/r/seduction13/05/22 03:17 AM
1

Or more likely the girl tells all her friends to avoid you
/r/seduction13/05/22 03:16 AM
1

Thanks, I’ll check him out. Honestly a 4 or 5 is where I probably am considering these results and my no matches on any app or site. Hopefully I will have enough money next year saved up for looksmaxxing surgery
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:07 PM
1

I know I’m doing something wrong. I just wish I could figure out what it is. All I can do is keep my head up and keep trying.
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:44 PM
1

I’ve read everything you could suggest. Dating coaches have told me I’m doing nothing wrong. I flirt with a girl and she is receptive and flirty back up to the point I ask her out. I don’t ask a girl out if she is just chatting with me.
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:27 PM
2

I’m dead serious I have asked out close to if not around 200 girls in the 6 years so far of my adulthood. 0 successes. Never gotten a number, never gotten a date. The best I ever get is “sorry I’m just not attracted to you that way” The worst I ever get is “lol I was pretending to like you just to see what you do” The most common I get is “I have a boyfriend”
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:57 PM
0

Even they reject me
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:09 PM
1

Sooner or later? How long should it take. I’ve been rejected hundreds of times
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:07 PM
2

Lol. I have no issues with rejection and I have no dating success
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:03 PM
1

Yeah, even with professional pics and being in extremely good shape, I’m still too ugly to date
/r/seduction11/05/22 02:22 PM
1

That would be a yes
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:26 PM
3

Yeah, understand about negativity. I can muster up a pretty good fake it until you make it for an evening. Good enough to flirt with girls until they reject me. Beyond that, my friends say that I come across as stoic to those who know me super well. It’s as if there’s a mask I put on in public
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:30 AM
1

Yeah, I can make friends with guys and girls platonically quite easily. I’m 6’2” and 170 pounds with a body fat under 10%. Good online pics (several taken by a professional), and paid for platinum or premium on several apps, and got nothing.
/r/seduction11/05/22 05:27 AM
9

I’m very social so I do think that’s the issue. I had a dating coach try to help me last year in my final year of college. I watched him get many guys to help themselves and helped them get a girl. He gave up with me after 4 months. I’ve had 4 therapists tell me this. At this point I need to wait until my desire for love decreases with age.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:51 AM
3

And I do all that. Almost no single girls, if there is one, I get rejected.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:39 AM
8

Therapy has been a joke. I’m just told that some people are meant to be alone. I am happy on my own. Hell, I love my life, I have no real regrets. It’s just that sometimes I’d like to hug a girl. I say I am undesirable because I’ve never had a date, never even had a match, and have been rejected hundreds of times by now.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:39 AM
-1

I’m on the same path as OP with the exception that I have experienced most of that. Raging parties, traveling with friends, all that stuff. Yet the experience of girls has eluded me.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:24 AM
0

No it’s not
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:18 AM
4

What if you’ve done all that and are still on the same path as OP. I’m the best version of myself I can be, but yet I am still unwanted and undesirable with a week until I turn 25.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:17 AM
13

Lol, every time I’ve tried therapy I’ve been told “sucks but some people are meant to be alone”
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:14 AM
1

I’m in a midsized city in the PNW. Can’t really go bigger due to my field of work. Work in forestry so there isn’t much jobs in Chicago or LA
/r/seduction09/05/22 04:53 PM
1

In that case, my good friend. He says I look fine and do everything right, but is confused why I struggle.
/r/seduction09/05/22 03:19 PM
1

Where do you even go to figure out how to max your looks, and attractiveness? True rate me said J was a solid 7 (on alt account) which is super high for them. Photofeeler says my pics are all above 8, with a few above 9. Sure I could save for height surgery to get me to 6’4” , nose reduction (I have a sharp nose), and take steroids so I could actually build muscle instead of being a lean mean fighting machine which I currently am.
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:49 PM
15

Just know that even if you do all this, you can still get no likes or matches. I have followed all of this and still fail
/r/seduction09/05/22 12:05 AM
1

Thanks. I’m 24 and have been rejected hundreds of times without a single date or number. I’ll look at the book in case it has something I have somehow missed. I will also keep pushing my friends to be honest with me and why I struggle
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:25 AM
1

What if you have done everything you possibly can and still get rejected every time?
/r/seduction07/05/22 11:33 PM
1

Some of us have to be a part of the 0.3%. You can do everything right and still never find anyone.
/r/seduction07/05/22 11:31 PM
2

Even if you put your self out there and live life, it is possible you will never meet a girl that is attracted to you
/r/seduction07/05/22 11:30 PM
1

It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness that is life. Bald space guy
/r/seduction07/05/22 11:27 PM
1

Yeah, again none of that really fits. People say I dress nice so my style isn’t preventing me. Especially since other guys who look like me have no problems. Sending my tinder via dm.
/r/seduction07/05/22 04:47 PM
1

True. I’m 24. I just wish I or someone else could figure out the cause
/r/seduction07/05/22 05:41 AM
2

These same people tell me in my face when I have a problem. I trust them. Why do people have a hard time believing that someone can have problems dating with no obvious cause?
/r/seduction07/05/22 03:19 AM
1

I live my own life for what it is and love it. I don’t come across as desperate according to my friends. Both guys and girls say this. They say I’m doing just fine.
/r/seduction07/05/22 03:03 AM
2

Trust me I’ve tried all sorts of approaches and styles. Fast slow funny formal laid back serious etc. haven’t worked yet
/r/seduction07/05/22 12:04 AM
5

Oh I have easily hit the 200 mark. I made a goal in college to ask out one girl a week that I was seriously into and approach at least one other who I didn’t know at all.
/r/seduction06/05/22 11:46 PM
1

Yeah I read through there and chatted with OP he had no idea and didn’t believe that I have issues.
/r/seduction06/05/22 11:44 PM
8

I have a few times. I get once feel good answers like “you didn’t do anything wrong, I’m just not ready for anything right now” The times I told my girl friends to be extremely blunt I got 2 answers. I’m 24 for reference You are a very attractive guy but girls don’t and won’t ever see you that way. You just aren’t attractive to them. You appear too good. Your life is in order. You have a good head on your shoulders. You know what you want and are driven to achieve. It’s as almost you are a diffe…
/r/seduction06/05/22 07:46 PM
9

I know your trying to help and I appreciate that. However this is the same advice that people always give regardless of their situation. For me, I have made myself appealing as I can and I truly believe that I am near my peak for who I am. I haven’t done any of this to get a girl. I’ve done it for my own goals and ambitions. I do try to date down. I have no standards for looks and low standards for personality. All I have experienced is constant rejection my whole life. No matter what I do.
/r/seduction06/05/22 02:55 PM
14

What if no girl has ever made it “easy” or am I miss representing what easy is?
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:06 PM
1

I don’t know why you call it fictional when it’s my reality. Girls truly don’t see me that way. I’m glad that you have better experiences but some guys really do have a hard time despite appearing as a whole package.
/r/seduction05/05/22 10:26 PM
0

Photo feeler is worthless. I get 8.5 plus on all the metrics and I am still not considered attractive to girls
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:39 PM
1

My last approach went like this. Walked up to a girl sitting at a bar alone. Started to say Hello but she cut me off and said “your not attractive enough, don’t even try”. I can be flirting with a girl and she can be giving me signs of wanting more but when I try to escalate it’s either one of two things. “Sorry I just don’t see you that way, you will make the next girl very happy though” “Did you really think I was into you, I was just pretending. Just to see what you would do”
/r/seduction05/05/22 03:24 AM
1

Yeah pretty much. Your far from the first to wonder why things aren’t adding up. No one can figure it out. I’ve even had a dating coach refund me.
/r/seduction05/05/22 12:23 AM
1

Well let me but the first for you.
/r/seduction04/05/22 11:36 PM
1

I am 24 and I see what your saying. I really do. However at my age and getting older it is and will only become more concerning for girls that I have always been rejected and have never been on a date. As for outdoorsy girls. Most of my friends fit that. My best friend will gladly poop behind a tree on a month long backpacking trip. Though she is married.
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:53 PM
1

What if you get rejected by ugly girls?
/r/seduction04/05/22 01:41 PM
1

What if you have all that and still fail?
/r/seduction04/05/22 12:17 AM
3

No, this only leads to the friendzone or whatever you want to call it when one party likes the other but the other only sees you as a friend
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:29 PM
1

Unfortunately
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:34 PM
2

That’s good and all, your your super attractive considering you have a girlfriend. What do us ugly people have to do?
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:58 AM
1

Biological drive to have kids
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:53 PM
1

Yeah I am on hinge. That my main profile that I put the most effort into. Though it seems like a waste since I have gone through all the girls within 100 miles without a response or match.
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:11 PM
2

How is online more effective than in person? This is coming from someone who doesn’t even get likes when paying for tinder platinum and who has a perfect profile according to swipehelper
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:06 PM
5

Dang those are some solid results. I tried a 250 approach run and got 0 results
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:05 PM
15

Never. Even when I show interest, girls dont show it back
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:03 PM
1

Well unfortunately they are the only type of girls so end up meeting
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:29 PM
2

Yeah, I’m pretty ugly. Trying to save for surgery though
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:42 PM
2

Oh so see the signs. Girls will practically beg for me and stuff until I ask them out then they will laugh and tell me that they are only pretending to like me
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:01 PM
1

Yeah. I am currently looking into acceptable hobbies.
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:20 PM
1

Your right. I’m only 6’2” and 170 pounds. Too skinny and I have weak face features. Too ugly to ever get a date
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:34 PM
1

So guys who like to mountain bike and rock climb can’t get girls?
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:12 PM
14

Girls can sense if your popular with other girls. If you are that means girls will be more open to you
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:52 PM
1

Only perfect fades are considered attractive
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:45 PM
1

Gym and self improvement. Read models Abundance. Get rejected hundreds of times
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:44 PM
12

Social proof
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:44 PM
1

I work in the woods. What is business casual
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:44 PM
0

Girls don’t give fuck me eyes. She was not attracted to you
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:43 PM
1

Because you will always be the second or 50th option
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:43 PM
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Guy here. 6’4” 250 pounds of muscle, perfect chiseled fade and 150k salary. Nothing less will be considered attractive
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:42 PM
16

I’m interested down to earth outdoorsy girls and I am a down to earth outdoorsy guy. Yet I attract no one. Where am I going wrong?
/r/seduction30/04/22 03:41 PM
1

Are you saying that no long distance runner or other athletic guy who isn’t the hulk has never gotten a girlfriend?
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:32 PM
1

He is a good looking guy where does he need to improve?
/r/seduction29/04/22 01:09 PM
1

Genetic fitness? About 95% there if so had to guess Employed? Yes Free of issues? Yes Putting myself out there? Yes
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:48 PM
1

What if you have increased your value as much as you can but still can’t get anything
/r/seduction28/04/22 01:31 PM
4

If only that worked. I get out, have hobbies, meet lots of people. Either I get rejected, or no single girls within 30 years of my age exist
/r/seduction26/04/22 02:15 AM
1

I haven’t been yet
/r/seduction25/04/22 02:25 AM
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Or just be attractive None of this list will help if you don’t meet the critical attraction girls now require. If anything it will get you a restraining order for being a creep
/r/seduction25/04/22 12:03 AM
2

Thanks. The first paragraph, I try my best to live that type of life. The second. I speak all sorts of ways. If I’m excited about something I tend to speak faster. I’ll record myself and see how I compare to your description. Get more experience? I’ve never hugged a girl. Trust me, I’m here because I want to get experience. I embrace rejection and it doesn’t bother me. Me more masculine? I work out daily and while I am thin I am in better shape than nearly everyone. I rock climb so I can do a on…
/r/seduction22/04/22 10:09 PM
3

How do you do that? I live my own life for how I want to live it. I am confident in myself from knowing that I am a solid guy.
/r/seduction22/04/22 08:02 PM
1

Yeah he isn’t even attractive
/r/seduction22/04/22 03:23 PM
2

Yep
/r/seduction22/04/22 03:22 PM
-1

See, I can flirt and girls will flirt back with me only to laugh at me when I try to arrange a date or escalate. Saying “what makes you think I like you” or “I was only pretending”
/r/seduction22/04/22 03:22 PM
1

So thanks for the reply. Since I won’t dox this profile, your right, you have no reason to believe me. But let’s say you do for a second. I’m glad that your selfies worked out for you. I don’t think I am shadow banned since my friend saw me last week on the app. I am one month into this profile after taking 3 months off or so. New phone, new email, half new pics. The old pics I have tilted a degree and added a few pixels to trick any ai picture program. I am currently sitting at 23 likes, all of…
/r/seduction21/04/22 01:56 PM
4

What is it? Some other folk say 8 is enough. You say 9.5 and I’m sure someone will bounce in and say that even a 10 isn’t enough. For the record I have two pics 1st and 2nd with a 9.5 and use platinum plus boost and have never gotten a match.
/r/seduction21/04/22 01:52 AM
1

I have on an alt account. Other than nitpicking there wasn’t much. Stuff like, “your head angle isn’t at the right location”. But most people were just super confused
/r/seduction21/04/22 01:28 AM
1

I get one or two when I make an account. I go 4 months on, 4 months off for sanity. I am 2 months into my profile and I am not shadow banned since my friend told me she saw me just a few days ago.
/r/seduction20/04/22 11:35 PM
3

I have regularly gotten 8+ in all catagories and I still have never had a match
/r/seduction20/04/22 10:58 PM
3

I’ve done this. All pics got 8 or higher and half got 9+ I still have yet to get a match, not even a bot with paying for platinum
/r/seduction20/04/22 10:57 PM
2

I live in a medium city in the Pacific Northwest. I have tried cold approaches and making friends first. It has only led me to hundreds of rejections and some really good friendships, but nothing more. Online has resulted in zero matches over 4 years. I have tried everything. You name advice? I have likely tried it. Not once has a girl been interested in me. Not even in high school or college when people were desperate or thirsty for affection.
/r/seduction17/04/22 10:38 PM
1

I agree with all of them, but how do you start to get number 4?
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:58 PM
2

I keep trying to adjust my approaches. One of these days I will hit the right combo with the right girl.
/r/seduction16/04/22 09:54 PM
2

All the time. Nothing was ever receptive and I have been rejected hundreds of times.
/r/seduction16/04/22 09:03 PM
2

Because at least for me, I lived a very social and outgoing life in college despite having half of it be Covid. I never once had a girl interested in me the slightest.
/r/seduction16/04/22 08:19 PM
2

You’ll inevitably meet some who like you— yeah right. That doesn’t happen
/r/seduction16/04/22 07:12 PM
1

“Did you know that Russia is so large that you can fit the entire state of Rhode Island in it more than 3 times?”
/r/seduction15/04/22 07:44 PM
2

Both. Being rejected is normal and it will increase your confidence by you getting used to it. But…. If you never experience any success, constant rejection will slowly kill your confidence
/r/seduction15/04/22 01:26 AM
1

Dating apps don’t work for guys
/r/seduction15/04/22 01:20 AM
1

Yeah pretty much
/r/seduction13/04/22 11:00 PM
1

And if no one is receptive to you, you are below any league?
/r/seduction13/04/22 06:14 PM
1

Many of us hate it because it’s no hope for us. I’ve been on and off of tinder for almost 5 years and have never gotten a match. Hinge and bumble are the same way.
/r/seduction13/04/22 01:57 PM
1

Thanks. Half the pics are taken with a real camera, other half with a newer Samsung phone. Between tinder to screen shot to Imgur, some quality loss is expected. Granted, I know nothing about lighting or body modeling to make a pic look good, but thanks for the link posted. I will take a look. I know clothes are harder for me. I’m 6.2” and 155 pounds. I wear 32 36 jeans with a tight belt. Large shirts are too baggy and medium is way too tight in the shoulders and much too short in the arms. Gain…
/r/seduction12/04/22 10:08 PM
1

Reddit chats aren’t working so I sent a message because I don’t want to dox this account
/r/seduction12/04/22 09:44 PM
1

I have nothing to show as I have never had any results
/r/seduction12/04/22 07:52 PM
2

Ok, then what? I’ve done all that and my smv is nonexistent judging from my results.
/r/seduction12/04/22 06:51 PM
1

For you it might be, but for me it’s a life of constant rejection. The really doesn’t feel freeing to me.
/r/seduction11/04/22 04:47 PM
3

Idk, this seems like a lot of work for someone who has no Social media.
/r/seduction08/04/22 03:01 PM
2

I’ve posted my profile in the past (alt account)about 6 months ago and people were surprised that I don’t get any matches. Since then I took 4 months off and got some new pics and altered my prompts based off of the feedback I got. I’ll post it again on that alt though and see what gets mentioned this time.
/r/seduction05/04/22 07:06 PM
1

I’m not getting matches. On hinge she needs to reply for it to be a match. I don’t get likes sent to me and I have never heard back from a message or like I have sent. So I’m that regard I have never had a girl interested in me. I understand what your saying about language but that seems foreign to me. I can make friends and chat with anyone but I am unable to sound sexy over text.
/r/seduction05/04/22 06:36 PM
1

I do that as well, I was just trying to give an example. There was a girl with a ski racing pic so I said that I like to ski race a bit myself and asked where she liked to race at. Honestly I am just probably too ugly to ever have any luck.
/r/seduction05/04/22 05:38 PM
3

I’ll send an opener and she will never respond or match. I try to tailor it to her profile or prompt whenever I can. Example. I responded to “tell me where your favorite view is” So yeah, I do my best but I have been on hinge on and off for years now with not a single match.
/r/seduction05/04/22 04:46 PM
11

Thanks. How do you get between steps 4 and 5? That’s where I am stuck.
/r/seduction05/04/22 02:48 PM
3

Rock climbing
/r/seduction04/04/22 02:14 AM
4

We must be doing different hiking. I did a 50 mile loop yesterday/this morning and saw 2 people. An older couple.
/r/seduction04/04/22 02:13 AM
1

I am. Everyone says they are surprised when they learn that I am single. It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life. -Captain Kirk
/r/seduction31/03/22 03:00 PM
1

What if you have done all that and still fail
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:30 PM
1

I’m like op at 24. I’m 6’2” and I’d rate myself an 8. Girls will give me interest but they are always doing so to lead me on or play tricks with me.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:29 PM
1

I’m 24 and haven’t been hugged. I’ve flirted with and asked out 3 girls this week, all were receptive to my flirting until I asked them for their number or a coffee date
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:27 PM
1

But what if it doesn’t happen. I’m 24 and have never been hugged. I have done everything right. Got out in college went to parties, met lots of girls, etc Always rejected
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:26 PM
2

Not always. Sometimes you will wake up at 24 and be in the same situation
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:22 PM
1

I am 6’2” white, not autistic or weird. Frankly and normal guy. Normal testosterone I believe.
/r/seduction27/03/22 03:24 PM
1

I wish that was the case. Unless your talking about beer…
/r/seduction27/03/22 02:38 AM
1

I’m in the western PNW. I pick up several large cities and live in a city myself (well outskirts). Oddly enough, while not vegabond, I have traveled extensively in college. I actually got likes sent my way when I was in “small outdoorsy towns” (Tahoe is still massive compared to where I grew up) like Tahoe, Jacksonhole, and aspen, to name a few.
/r/seduction27/03/22 01:58 AM
2

I have done that for years and have seen no results. Hence why my friends told me to try online. I have been told girls would flock to me for years and it hasn’t happened yet.
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:39 AM
3

Thanks. I tried online after having nothing but rejections IRL and all of my girlfriends told me that I would slay online. I have the confidence IRL. Girls just tell me that they don’t see me sexually even after being flirty with me.
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:37 AM
1

I have both tinder and hinge and have the same (zero likes or matches) results. I see what your saying with the second pic. It was a photo shoot for college graduation. When I dress nice that’s what I look like. Jeans, boots, wrangler pearl snap shirt. I don’t know how to be more provocative in text really. I’m not the best flirt irl either.
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:32 AM
1

Yeah. I can easily go to Portland if I want to be an expensive hipster for the weekend.
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:30 AM
1

I just don’t know what I would do for work. I work in forestry so I would have to go back to college and change fields. Also would have to give up hobbies. Thanks for the suggestion I will start to look into options to get out of the northwest.
/r/seduction26/03/22 11:50 PM
4

I’m not really attracted to non white girls. How can I change that? Also I live in the PNW and work in forestry so I am sort of stuck here for work unless I change my entire career and go back to college. I mean there is the south, I’d have work there but I would have to give up my skiing and mountain climbing hobbies.
/r/seduction26/03/22 11:41 PM
3

Thanks for being brutally honest. How can I change myself to not be a nerd? All my pics got a 9+ on photofeeler so that’s on me for believing I was attractive. Day game has only led to hundreds of rejections, hence why I tried online. Moving isn’t really an option. Work is here and Moving would result in me losing my decent salary. I also don’t know where I could move to. Where would I have any value?
/r/seduction26/03/22 11:39 PM
1

Good points. I have a solid social circle but none of them know anyone who is both single and would even be interested in me. Moving? Not really an option. I work in forestry so the PNW is kinda where the industry is. Sure I could move to another state but I would sacrifice getting to live alone and having money.
/r/seduction26/03/22 09:28 PM
3

You can’t miss what you have never experienced. I see people say they are touch starved and I can’t even relate to that. Sure I can imagine what a hug is like but because I’ve never experienced one, I can’t miss it.
/r/seduction26/03/22 09:14 PM
2

How do I make myself be attracted to more girls then?
/r/seduction26/03/22 09:06 PM
5

Lol. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not a big guy. Tall and lanky. But looks can be deceiving.
/r/seduction25/03/22 04:28 AM
28

Working out more. I managed to do a one arm pull up off of a 20mm ledge with 3 fingers yesterday.
/r/seduction25/03/22 01:10 AM
1

Everyone says I’m an attractive guy. I have yet to notice any perks of it.
/r/seduction24/03/22 01:45 PM
3

And if no one is interested?
/r/seduction22/03/22 02:51 PM
1

I don’t know what to tell you then
/r/seduction21/03/22 03:59 PM
2

Same here, several years on apps and have never gotten a match
/r/seduction21/03/22 03:04 PM
1

None
/r/seduction20/03/22 02:02 AM
0

The thing is, I am in amazing shape but I don’t want to get massive. I run a lot, why is getting big required?
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:30 AM
2

Nope
/r/seduction17/03/22 12:47 AM
1

How am I supposed to get a single girl to give me the time of day
/r/seduction17/03/22 12:09 AM
2

The key is to not let rejections bother you. I’ve been rejected hundreds of times without any success and at this point who cares? Use it to build confidence and better yourself if you do ever get lucky
/r/seduction15/03/22 11:23 PM
3

Do girls actually respond in instagram? I’ve dm,d a few girls and I just felt like a creep for doing so?
/r/seduction15/03/22 01:43 PM
1

Nothing. In real life I’ve only been rejected, even after girls approached and flirted with me. Online? Never even had a like. I’ve never even hugged a girl before
/r/seduction13/03/22 01:35 PM
0

Yeah, how is it easy. I have a mortgage, a start of a career, friends, and in a large enough city. Moving would mean moving to a small town (required for my industry) where I would have even less of a chance.
/r/seduction13/03/22 02:01 AM
1

I’ve been rejected hundreds of times
/r/seduction13/03/22 01:58 AM
2

Unfortunately I won’t ever be rich. My field (forestry) maxes out at 80 to 100k salary. I work out daily. And am in phenomenal shape. I just don’t know what sort of surgery I would even need to get.
/r/seduction12/03/22 11:51 PM
2

Good point. Any ideas on how I can start to compete with every other guy both on and off of apps?
/r/seduction12/03/22 11:37 PM
2

I have 2 professional pics, some nature/activity pics, and a social pic. I also have a light hearted describing profile/prompts I’ve had Reddit as well as lots of friends (guys and gals) tell me that it’s good enough to at least get something. I’ll do it to you
/r/seduction12/03/22 08:37 PM
5

I’m 6’2” athletic, have a good social life, own a home at 24, have a good career starting, and have interesting hobbies. Don’t know what else I can do
/r/seduction12/03/22 08:20 PM
6

I’m an attractive and high value guy. We don’t get matches
/r/seduction12/03/22 08:13 PM
2

There’s nothing that they could help me with. No amount of money can fix my ugly. Even with professional pics and dating coaches, I am still not enough.
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:53 PM
4

Avoid all apps. They are all scams and guys will never get matches
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:40 PM
4

I’ve done that (minus a suit) and still have never gotten a match. All apps are scams
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:39 PM
15

I’m similar to op. 24 never even hugged. You say that I am young and I should get out and see the world. How? I have a career, a house, obligations, and adult life. How do people just pack up and do whatever they feel like?
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:05 PM
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You must be very attractive. I’ve tried that and all I got was weird looks and “who are you”
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:02 PM
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I’ll keep trying. I’m always changing things up, so maybe I’ll hit the right combination with the right girl.
/r/seduction10/03/22 03:09 AM
1

Honestly I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. None of my friends (guys and girls) can think of anything I’m doing wrong. I’ve even had a dating coach refund me because he couldn’t pin anything. Everyone says I must be doing something wrong but no one can pin point anything. As for your questions of what I’m doing. I believe I am, and people say that I am.
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:59 AM
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Hard to say an average. Some weeks things go well and I meet several girls that I have connections with. Other times, I can go a week or two without any meaningful connections. I’ve played the numbers game. I’d say somewhere in the range of 150 rejections with no success. Keep in mind I am only counting rejections that I had a connection with. I don’t count cold approaches. I don’t do those often anymore and other than shotgunning for numbers, I feel cold approaches don’t work. That being said, …
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:50 AM
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It’s the same thing every time. I meet a girl, she seems interested in me, she is proactive and flirty, I am as well, we click. I ask her out. One of 3 responses. I don’t see you that way Lol did you really think I was into you? I have a boyfriend/husband.
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:17 AM
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It’s the same thing every time. I meet a girl, she seems interested in me, she is proactive and flirty, I am as well, we click. I ask her out. One of 3 responses. I don’t see you that way Lol did you really think I was into you? I have a boyfriend/husband.
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:17 AM
1

True any experience is good. But I can’t even get experience
/r/seduction10/03/22 02:01 AM
2

I’ll try that. But to understand, I have hundreds of rejections under me. I can go up to any girls and flirt with them, try to make moves and have them be receptive. Only for them to laugh at me when I ask their number or contact. Or to simply reject me. I have never gotten a phone number, contact, match, or anything.
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:37 PM
2

I have all that and still don’t have that social approval
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:31 PM
3

Yeah that makes sense. The question is, how can a normal guy get that initial social approval?
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:38 PM
0

Just quit being poor Have you tried being happy This doesn’t really help
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:18 PM
2

Good point
/r/seduction09/03/22 02:41 PM
1

Good point, yeah it’s hard to give advice off of a small comment. But yeah, I’ve had friends and other guys who have zero problems with girls say that they are flat out baffled at my failures.
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:45 PM
1

It’s hard to describe how I flirt, it just comes naturally. I do know that my girl friends say that I come across as flirty. And when I mean receptive, girls often time are super close, super sexual in their comments and are obviously “into me” yet when I try to advance, they laugh and say “did you really think I was into you” or “I just don’t see you that way”
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:30 PM
3

Get more experience. Ok, what if you have been rejected hundreds of times and have more experience with it than most people?
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:17 PM
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Other than zodiac sign, those are serious questions. I am like op. 24 and always rejected. I have no problems making girls laugh or flirting with them and making a real connection. Yet I am always turned down. Girls can be giving me all sorts of signs and be receptive in my flirting, yet say they don’t see me that way.
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:16 PM
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I also have this problem. Most people assume I get around and have no problems with girls. Everyone is surprised when they find out I am continually rejected
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:07 PM
1

With me it’s friends. Girls will reject me, and then invite me to parties or other things to do together.
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:06 PM
3

What if you don’t watch porn and have this problem?
/r/seduction07/03/22 04:25 PM
1

I would have joined if it wasn’t so expensive
/r/seduction05/03/22 07:15 AM
1

Odd, I know more introverted girls than extroverted girls.
/r/seduction05/03/22 07:14 AM
1

In college I wasn’t in a frat but was friends with people who were and thus was involved in their social lives. Nothing. Always invisible to girls. Post college. Now I have friends who are very successful and have a good social life. I’m not as successful yet but fit in well. I’m talking about private helicopters and rooftop parties in LA. Still nothing. Invisible to girls. I get what your saying but having successful friends isn’t a key with 100% success.
/r/seduction05/03/22 07:10 AM
1

Most of that list is a hard no for me. So If I would always assume that, I would never even approach with a relationship intent.
/r/seduction03/03/22 02:12 AM
1

Sort of. I’m happy as a bachelor but some times I feel it would be nice to be able to commentate a bad movie with a girl leaning on my shoulder
/r/seduction17/02/22 02:07 AM
1

Even those girls reject me
/r/seduction16/02/22 08:55 PM
1

Well, I’ll never be a doctor because I barely managed 5 years of undergrad college. I am working on hopefully getting land and thus rental properties. But I am only 24 so I can’t be expected to own several houses at this age.
/r/seduction13/02/22 06:19 PM
1

And to answer your question on how many girls I like. Between 40 and 60 percent. I’ll swipe right for most girls if they have more than one pic and a bio that isn’t a snapchat
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:32 PM
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If you see this, the mods removed the post as usual. It’s probably me being broken. I have had years of constant social and romantic rejection.
/r/seduction11/02/22 10:12 PM
1

I’m 24, I’m a forester. (I find properties or forests to buy to feed our mill and a bunch of other things). Bio. I’m a recent grad of —— working as a forester so I’ll definitely nerd out on trees while hiking. I spend my free time skiing or exploring. I’m working on getting back into climbing so hit me up if you want to send any local crags. 6’2” Christian Looking for something serious Yeah, I know I’m probably way too outdoorsy to even consider dating.
/r/seduction11/02/22 08:54 PM
1

In your scale I’m probably a 7. I’m above average looking. I have NEVER gotten a match on tinder. I don’t know why everyone says to go on there and get matches to talk to girls to get experience.
/r/seduction11/02/22 08:03 PM
3

They are? Single moms turn me down faster and harder than average.
/r/seduction11/02/22 06:38 PM
1

Yeah, I am 100% straight edge. If relaxing helps, then a very intense work out usually does the trick for me.
/r/seduction11/02/22 03:19 AM
1

Your right about a slump. I’m kinda in a long one. Unfortunately I don’t drink so the alcohol filter isn’t my best option
/r/seduction10/02/22 08:21 PM
1

How do you convey sexual interest in girls your not attracted to. I’ve lowered my standards to almost nothing since girls I am attracted to don’t find me attractive. It’s just hard to flirt with girls I’m not interested in.
/r/seduction10/02/22 07:20 PM
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Besides those three, I haven’t found any with enough user base to be worth it. Okcupid is for people who are traveling to the Philippines, POF is for people who want to match with bots, and Facebook dating is for people who are older than the average age of this sub.
/r/seduction10/02/22 07:12 PM
1

Thanks. Generally your second paragraph is my goal. Go out, have fun and meet people. I have only gotten IOI once in my entire life.
/r/seduction06/02/22 12:16 AM
3

I worked with a personal trainer for a bit in college and despite getting stronger (I was flirting with a 400 pound deadlift) I could not put on weight.
/r/seduction06/02/22 12:14 AM
2

Thanks. I’ll give that a try since I haven’t read that one yet.
/r/seduction06/02/22 12:12 AM
2

Thanks, I learned real quick that at least having social media and a Snapchat is a bonus as you said numbers are more personal in today’s world. Don’t worry about being out of ideas. Personally I loved the idea of online dating until I tried it out for a few years and never got any matches.
/r/seduction06/02/22 12:12 AM
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Outside of surgery I’m not sure what a I can do. Im 6’2” in amazing shape, have good clothes, and take care of myself. I am thin (165)but that’s genetic and I have been unsuccessful at any attempt at weight gain.
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:58 PM
1

I am trying to figure out what I’m doing wrong. I have gone out with friends who are successful with girls and they can’t pin point anything I’m doing wrong. They have even set me up on dates with girls several times, only for me to get stood up.
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:55 PM
2

So I actually don’t cold approach much any more. Didn’t have luck there, mainly did it to build some resemblance of confidence and get over my fear of rejection. These rejections mostly were from people I had a connection with. Friends of a friend who I was told liked me…, girl I saw at parties several times, and that sort of stuff. Things that everyone else does to fall into relationships. Since I’m out of college and don’t drink, I don’t go to bars anymore, but I’ll take your advice and go to …
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:54 PM
2

One example. I was at a football game a few years ago and started chatting to the girl next to me. Both of us were kinda flirty the entire game. I though she was giving me signals and stuff so I offered her my number and she laughed and said “did you really think I was into you” before walking off.
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:47 PM
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I do all that. I am still working on trying to convey myself as a sexual person instead of a friendly person. Other than that, the rest of the list is golden.
/r/seduction05/02/22 07:00 AM
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I work out. I dress nice, and I have an interesting life. I’m meeting these girls everywhere, from climbing gyms, to bars, to college (when I was in college). I’m approaching all sorts of girls. I have no idea what I like or want in a girl. I mean, I have an idea but I’m not certain since I’ve got no experience. I’ve tried adjusting my approach strategy to just about every combination to see if something else works.
/r/seduction05/02/22 06:27 AM
3

I’ve never had the option to reject a girl from my end.
/r/seduction05/02/22 06:24 AM
3

Common advice is to fake it until you make it. Aka, when you start to see some success, however small it may be, you have a solid foundation for confidence that isn’t faked. I don’t want to have to fake confidence, I want to be able to draw my confidence from internally. Aka. Having a reason to be confident because I will know that I have don’t it in the past. If that makes sense.
/r/seduction04/02/22 11:17 PM
7

Correct
/r/seduction04/02/22 09:45 PM
2

Sent you my profile, I’m open to suggestions on how to improve it.
/r/seduction03/02/22 09:48 PM
2

I’m white, 6’2” and am told that I’m attractive. I have never gotten a match. I only swipe on average or below average girls. I don’t even get likes.
/r/seduction03/02/22 09:37 PM
3

Just get rejected more often. I’ve been rejected hundreds of times now and each rejection doesn’t even phase me anymore.
/r/seduction03/02/22 09:33 PM
1

She hasn’t hugged me in over 10 years. People in my life circle generally don’t hug or show affection.
/r/seduction02/02/22 04:27 PM
1

For me the first 10 to 20 times I got rejected I let it get to me more than it should have. After 20 or so rejections each one got easier and easier. Now having hundreds of rejections under my belt, they don’t even phase me anymore.
/r/seduction02/02/22 04:24 PM
1

So I’ve never been hugged since my parents quit hugging me at 13 because real men don’t need hugs… my girl friends won’t hug guys they aren’t dating, and so on. I get the abundance mentality and I have no problems attempting to escalate and asking girls out. I’ve just been rejected every time so far.
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:31 AM
1

Seriously, go for it. Honestly people aren’t mean to me.
/r/seduction02/02/22 02:18 AM
1

How am I delusional? I have tried the 100 approaches and I got 100 rejections. Thanks for the offer but I’m on the other side of the world from you.
/r/seduction02/02/22 01:30 AM
2

Why is that sad? People pay for experiences all the time. How is paying to hug someone any different than paying to see a movie?
/r/seduction02/02/22 01:29 AM
0

Have fun with 100 rejections
/r/seduction01/02/22 10:01 PM
5

Are there escorts who accept money for hugs or even a kiss? I’m not ready for sex but I am willing to pay to get my hugging virginity out of the way.
/r/seduction01/02/22 10:01 PM
3

If he is like me, he doesn’t even get likes
/r/seduction01/02/22 09:59 PM
3

I always go for 3 or 4/10 girls because I’m not worth average girls
/r/seduction01/02/22 09:45 PM
5

I don’t even get attention from unattractive girls. On dating apps, I rarely get likes and those I do get are from single mothers who’s husbands in jail and are drug addicts.
/r/seduction28/01/22 03:29 AM
1

None for me
/r/seduction27/01/22 04:25 AM
1

No, I get 8+ on photo feeler, yet I get no likes or matches on any app.
/r/seduction27/01/22 04:25 AM
3

Honestly no. I’ve always been in good shape but I took things to the next level over the past 6 years. Started running and now am training for a 50 mile hike/run with a goal of under 24 hours. Been climbing more and now can regularly climb 5.12s Despite being in better shape than most people and being as confident about my body as ever, I am still invisible to girls
/r/seduction27/01/22 04:22 AM
1

Yeah, I have messaged first on hinge, no luck. and bumble and Twitter are swipe apps so no message without matches.
/r/seduction05/01/22 04:38 AM
1

I never got likes or matches on any apps.
/r/seduction05/01/22 01:39 AM
1

Other than being super outdoorsy, I build models. Currently working on a wooden ship as well as planning an HO train layout. But the target audience for that is usually 3 times my age. But seriously, I spend most of my time in the woods hunting, camping, skiing, climbing etc. Meet people through hobbies? I was very active in the outdoors adventure group in college but the one single girl who was also in it wasn’t interested and people at my climbing gym aren’t friendly or single. Talk to multipl…
/r/seduction05/01/22 01:18 AM
1

I went to 4 weddings last year. Each couple had know each other since 1st grade and were life long friends. They had only recently started dating. People can and often develop relationships after being friends for years.
/r/seduction03/01/22 09:45 PM
2

I try to, I’m not the best at flirting but I can hold my own. It always goes well until I ask for a number or a date. That’s when I get hit with the I don’t see you that way.
/r/seduction22/12/21 11:41 PM
1

I’m confident, I flirt, I’m not shy etc. yet all I get is rejected m
/r/seduction22/12/21 02:51 PM
2

https://imgur.com/a/eVsnhGB That was my hinge before I deleted it. As for the number of rejections. I had a goal of talking to one girl a week in hopes to get her number when I was in college. Doing that for a few years plus day game, parties etc. adds up really fast
/r/seduction22/12/21 02:50 PM
1

I am 6’2 in amazing shape, good social life, interesting hobbies, good job etc. I am told that I am a perfect husband on paper. Yet I don’t even get dates and am definitely not doing anywhere close to as good as you.
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:29 AM
1

Just like op here. I have been rejected hundreds of times. Am I not trying hard enough?
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:09 AM
2

Just like op here. I take care of myself and do all that. Yet at almost 24 I have been rejected hundreds of times.
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:08 AM
1

Just like op here. Yes to your questions. I don’t even want sex. I’d be happy with a phone number in a non platonic manner or even a hug
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:07 AM
1

Same
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:06 AM
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