dirty_cheeser Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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2	Infuriating article by Vice: “Mankeeping Is Why Women Are Done With Dating” It feels rewarding when my wife comes home stressed and I help her get relaxed and happy. She's been super supportive when I've needed it too. Who gets into relationships without wanting to emotionally support their partner?	/r/MensRights	17/11/25 01:02 AM
1	UK: City trader husband who was left with just £325,000 of his heiress ex's £61.5MILLION fortune wins divorce appeal after 'gender bias' claim She only lost because she lied on the prenup which is incredibly stupid and isn't precedent for anything.	/r/MensRights	03/08/25 09:16 PM
10	Did you call yourself a feminist in the past before learning the corrupt truth about feminism? I did. Always been for equality and helping men and women and I thought feminism was an equality movement instead of a woman's advocacy movement. I fell for that motte and bailey badly.	/r/MensRights	12/03/25 05:54 AM
1	Q4M: Why aren't men as into Consensual Non-consent or raep fantasies as much as women? Interesting, it does follow the model then. But some kinks and motivations may not. I'm into public stuff more for the casualness, doing mischievous stuff as a couple and excitement of risking getting caught. I guess some may be into it due to being desired so much that they have to be had in public but that's not me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 09:37 PM
1	Q4M: Why aren't men as into Consensual Non-consent or raep fantasies as much as women? Having your partner surrender autonomy is what I meant by vulnerability. And yes, vore probably has a lot to do with that vulnerability. Though consensual vore for the sub might be more about giving away their autonomy then about being uncontrollably desired so I don't think my model works for all kinks and fetishes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/25 10:52 PM
17	Q4M: Why aren't men as into Consensual Non-consent or raep fantasies as much as women? Being forced to have sex implies someone irresistibly desires you so many who want cnc actually want that being uncontrollably desired dynamic and cnc is just the way to show it. Being desired is universally wanted. While i don't fully understand the dom role, I presume someone would want the dom role as their partner would show vulnerability meaning a lot of trust and wanting to be trusted by your partner is also universally wanted. It is less socially acceptable or seen as manly and attractive…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/25 12:23 AM
1	Even as a woman, I don't understand why anyone would want to get married. It's triggering that people think marriage is a wedding. It's a legal and social contract. There can be situations where this works for you and situations where you don't need one. It's fine to celebrate it with a wedding, people tend to enjoy celebrating, but the celebration is about something, not about itself. The idea of conflating weddings and marriage is probably why the divorce rate is so high. Imagine spending more time thinking about and planning the wedding than the prenup... One defin…	/r/MensRights	14/02/25 10:48 AM
1	Misandry annoys misogyny kills is a lie Is there something more recent? I have no reason to believe human nature changed but environment and gender dynamics might have.	/r/MensRights	18/12/24 08:49 AM
15	Are you 'mankeeping'? How women are bearing the brunt of the male loneliness epidemic New research finds women are under pressure to support the increasingly isolated men in their lives, risking emotional burnout The article only makes sense to me for mother's or sisters trying to support their sons/brothers, which wasn't mentioned in the article. Failure to get people to care enough to support you is a critical part of the problem that leads to the loneliness.	/r/MensRights	13/11/24 06:56 PM
2	What? So just because she had ADHD, that gives her an excuse to stab her brother? She should be charged as an adult I agree there's a double standard, a 12 year old boy murderer wouldn't be able to point to mental health for sympathy. However charging a 12 year old as an adult is psychotic. The reason to charge minors as adults in some cases is that minors or people around them know they'll have more lenient sentences and abuse the system. The classic case is gangs using minors to do their crimes as it's no big deal if they get caught. This is not the case here.	/r/MensRights	27/09/24 06:26 PM
2	Why is it that when a man doesn't want to be with a girl that has a high body count he is "insecure", but when a woman doesn't like a man because he's short, it's her "preference" You are right, that is even better as its less tied to identity which is relevant to dates. Although, when I said bi i meant bi colloquially. A guy who experimented with guys once 10 years ago and doesn't find guys attractive is close enough to straight imo, but will be talked of as bi or even gay depending on the social group.	/r/MensRights	31/08/24 10:40 PM
59	Why is it that when a man doesn't want to be with a girl that has a high body count he is "insecure", but when a woman doesn't like a man because he's short, it's her "preference" Height is more obvious at the point of initial attraction. A better double standard is that most women wouldn't date a bi guy. Sexual past matters in some situations apparently.	/r/MensRights	31/08/24 06:17 AM
0	If women are allowed to divorce their husbands for wanting paternity test, then this guy is justified in leaving his wife for wanting to look at his phone Leaving the wife was an ah move. The wife leaving over being asked for a paternity test is an ah move. Demanding a paternity test or phone access itself is an ah move though not on the same level as the other 2.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/24 05:48 PM
2	Got a few questions as a feminist I have no issues with feminism in Saudi Arabia but it should probably learn lessons from how it's losing traction in the West. Imo whatever movement stands up for women should be more honest as I don't believe a movement can be very dishonest long term and not create backlash. I felt abandoned 10-15 years ago. Now I'm fine but I'm afraid for my future kids. It makes me afraid of maybe having a boy when I have kids in a couple years. There's no group to try and address the men's side of inequalit…	/r/MensRights	27/08/24 02:57 PM
2	Article: Why young men are turning against feminism? Agreed but It was sold as equality. Yes it focused only on women's advocacy but it could credibly claim equality until social media and the rise of mrm exposed their dishonesty like the classic pay gap lies and people like me realized by equality they meant advocate for women's interests. Now it doesn't really pretend much anymore. So public view has changed. The video doesn't really address what I meant. I'm in favor of social equality and the very big picture stated goals of 1960s + feminism a…	/r/MensRights	27/08/24 12:19 AM
8	Article: Why young men are turning against feminism? So it questioned why millennial men are feminists but not Gen z. That's easy, feminism changed. The millennial view of feminism I grew up with and was taught was about equality that just happened to usually focus on women but could help men too. The version now is explicit women's advocacy and as a result seeing men's advocacy as a net loss in their 0 sum game gender war worldview. Id be a feminist again if it meant what I was taught as a kid.	/r/MensRights	26/08/24 05:50 PM
–	Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter. Agreed, but it's on the same level as other social fulfillment. Technically you can be in solitary confinement for 20 years and you won't die so it's not like food, water and shelter but it's not really a good way to live. A society that reduces the number of isolated people lacking some types of social connections including friendships, sexual relationships, romantic relationships is just a better society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 05:17 AM
2	Is lying about your career in hopes of getting a ONS wrong or immoral? Not bad faith. Determining what part of lying is wrong and applying it back is why analogies are useful. Lying in general probably isn't wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 04:57 PM
1	Is lying about your career in hopes of getting a ONS wrong or immoral? Is lying to the gestapo about wether there are Jews in your attic wrong or immoral? If not, then something about intent and/or consequence matters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/24 05:27 AM
–	Moral character has no bearing on sexual success There's no one way to look at morality. One way to look at morality is performing behavior compatible with societal expectations, an example of this is that many consider killing a dog is more wrong to many people than killing a pig. These are very similar acts but one goes against our expectations and gets seen as less moral. Under that definition, morality correlates with social skills and social skills has a bearing on sexual success and probably should if we want to continue to be a social s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 12:37 AM
3	How Much of Guys Being Sex Obsessed is Socially Constructed? Sure, having a promiscuous past is one of the ways to signal abundance of options with the costs you mentioned. It's not the only way but it will often work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 09:05 AM
1	Who would you say are more despairing. Single Mid 30's Men or single mid 30's women? The estimates I saw were 5% per month at 40 vs 25% at 25 for pregnancy. This doesn't include higher miscarriages though. A 40 year old consistently trying will more likely than not get pregnant at least once within 2 years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 05:59 AM
7	Who would you say are more despairing. Single Mid 30's Men or single mid 30's women? Women if they want kids. Having a kid at 40 works quite often today. But 35 is at the point where you can't waste time on any relationship that isn't leading to family. So each date should be higher stakes. Men will have less pressure the age cuttoff is a bit higher and less absolute.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 01:02 AM
4	Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for you It does, but if this is how you fix your problems, it makes you dependent on your partner. Maybe getting a relationship will fix your emotional and mental problems fast but the risks should be discussed as well so the advice is valid to some extent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/24 09:43 PM
1	Why Men "leave their sick spouses" My Experience. This is an interesting perspective. However I would be really interested in studies of these gendered patient, caretaker dynamics you described to move past anecdotes.	/r/MensRights	11/04/24 09:22 PM
–	"More women should make the first move" yeah, and it would still be like Tinder Because normalizing isn't enough. Men have to make the first move in most cases or they simply won't date, Women don't usually especially if they use dating apps or hang out in balanced or male dominated environments . Approaching sucks so I would never have learned it if I occasionally got approached.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 07:16 PM
30	Inside the disturbing world of Femcels: British women reveal why they've joined dark online forums where they share fears about being alone forever. The comparison of hateful male incels to victim femcels is sexist and disturbing. There are so many groups of self hating low confidence male incels who think they are broken or genetically doomed to be alone. They get ignored. The way they don't get ignored is to do something hateful to get journalists interested. I'm glad femcels can get their problems talked about without needing an Eliot Rodger but it would be nice if the same consideration was given to male incels someday.	/r/MensRights	27/03/24 03:29 AM
4	How come so many guys do not want to go to clubs to get women, even though that is the easiest option? I have a quiet voice and tend to be shy in crowded places. I get girls interested in me with good conversations. The few times I talked to girls in clubs, we couldn't hear each other and nothing happened. Just not my scene.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 03:21 AM
1	Curious about the average views of my fellow MRA people. (Since a lot of people have referred to this group as conservative) The politiscales.party test you linked did link well in the post. You have to create a hyperlink. politiscales.party results: link Still left wing: 98% progressive, only 10% essentialism... People often assume I am right-wing if I criticize feminism or bring up men's issues, but it has never been true. Mra is seen as right wing more for its context in the culture wars than it's actual values imo.	/r/MensRights	26/03/24 06:18 PM
1	I think love and romance is not very important and can be dangerous. Men happiness depend on how pretty the women he knocked up irrelevant of the motives of those women. Men want women's "body," not her soul. If everything is transactional, do you see others as essentially computers? If so, do you feel equally alone as if you only had chatgpt versions for company?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 08:15 AM
2	If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage this I'm a bit more red than blue. I think a man being generous with sharing resources and showing ability to lead and take control works way better for getting your pick of dates, sex and partners than the more wholesome bluepill attributes of honesty, kindness, opening up about emotions... I think this is due to personal experience, not because I want this to be true or because it matches my values. Despite the traditional dating viewpoint, I'm left leaning, vote democrat more often than not and do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:29 AM
3	I think love and romance is not very important and can be dangerous. Men happiness depend on how pretty the women he knocked up irrelevant of the motives of those women. Men want women's "body," not her soul. No, maybe. Not everything has to be reciprocal. A better example is parents for their kids. Many parents would die for their kids. The other way around is probably much less common. But the parents probably get meaning and fulfillment from their kids having a good life making that inequality worth it. Looking at a relationship as a partially unconditional non transactional commitment is a lot more meaningful than looking at the relationship as a transactional tit for tat setup. The latter just s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 12:21 AM
5	I think love and romance is not very important and can be dangerous. Men happiness depend on how pretty the women he knocked up irrelevant of the motives of those women. Men want women's "body," not her soul. No. We all know we are selfish. But most of us want to get a few close friends and family we would value as much as or over ourselves. There's sometimes an assumption of it being reciprocal but not always. I can acknowledge my selfishness and still rather die than let my gf or little sister die. The difference is not in acknowledging selfishness but in the desire to make exceptions for a few people. Your experiences or genetics made you unwilling to do that which is fine but your advice only wor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 07:49 PM
5	I know others have said it, but the word "incel" has lost all meaning. Incel is supposed to be a description of a person who is struggling and needs support, community and/or help. Now it's for shame and political insults... Imagine turning labels for other unfortunate groups into insults as vitriolic as incel. I would never change the term of depression to attack depressed people like that for example. Forever alone might now be a better term for the same thing even though it is a bit different.	/r/MensRights	29/02/24 09:22 PM
16	Late bloomer men should absolutely not date younger women My advice is the opposite. If you lack relationship skills, I would recommend younger for anything serious, same age or older is fine if it's casual. As a late bloomer who eventually had my pick of older, same age and younger women, older women were more complicated than you think. Several of them were very clear they were on a timeline for kids quickly sometimes before the first date and many were jaded and cynical from past relationships. I was told that I reminded them what it was like to dat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 07:21 PM
3	Late bloomer men should absolutely not date younger women Late bloomers exist. A classic example would be someone working their way up the corporate ladder in their 20s with little time to date and landing a more chill prestigious job around 30 giving them the time, money and clout they never had before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 06:51 PM
3	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you I chose those ages because if someone hasn't had a relationship by then they likely never will. I wanted to look at the chance someone had a relationship over their lifetime. Fair but this does not relate to bluepill beliefs. Let's say we measure people who never dated who say yes to "is being kind important to you" then measuring the percentage who get in a relationship over the next 5 years with controlling for attractiveness and age, would answer whether it is an efficient mindset. I would be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 02:13 AM
3	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you Your stats are at age 40 and 45. They also don't differentiate between people following bluepill mindsets and those not doing so. So they don't show whether these are efficient ways to date. Defining blue and red pill is hard but the emphasis of blue pill is often about being nice, kind, considerate of others... These are great attributes in a relationship but they will rarely get you dates as they are hard to demonstrate to a stranger. No dates means you may have to wait longer to get a relatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 01:29 AM
2	Telling men their standards are high because they don't want to date or pursue single moms for a LTR is absurd It is obviously a downside to most people and its absurd to say that it is not. There is also nothing wrong with considering the downsides of the body count, financial obligations... even if you don't personally consider them downsides.. But it is not absurd if you bring nothing to the table. A perpetually sick, poor, ugly 40 yo virgin man cannot expect to be able to filter the dating pool on every attribute they want. Disagreements: Point 3: In modern societies, the average age of death is 80 a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 01:02 AM
–	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Correct, it's an oversimplified model. There are latent variables like intelligence that partially explain all 4 of these traits. But it isn't really feasible to model this out taking colinear factors into account without a good dataset and lots of effort. So it's a fair intuitive base model imo.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 02:31 PM
–	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Conditional probabilities come by multiplying the probabilities assuming no colinearity. So being in the top 50% to be at or above the average of the height, fitness, career, and social categories is .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 or 6.25%. Then your assumption of average is way off: The median salary at age 30 in the USA is 50k, good luck taking regular trips to Ibiza with that. I just spent ~2k on a snow trip for this coming weekend with my gf, i could not do that if I only made 50k. I live in the suburbs,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 11:17 PM
15	"Women's pain is always downplayed, misdiagnosed, and women receive less healthcare treatment than men." That's different. There is medical discrimination against men in prioritizing some issues as society does seem to value women's lives and comfort more. However it can also be true that if a man goes to the doctor complaining about x and a women does, the man is taken more seriously. These are separate issues. My hypothesis is that men are more likely to put off doctors visits until they really have a problem. So from the doctor's perspective when men complain it's more likely to be a serious pro…	/r/MensRights	22/01/24 08:39 AM
1	Are women the primary motivator in most men's lives? As an initial push, I think so. However if you work on career, attractiveness, social skills, respectable hobbies... for a few years it can become a habit. If a person were to become hideously disfigured and lose all opportunities with women at 35 after spending 20 years grinding career, they probably would fall back into career grinding habits rather than regress 20 years into a NEET	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 09:22 PM
7	CMV: Women must feel like they are going crazy when most men are willing to sleep with them, but only a handful would be interested in a committed relationship A lot of guys went through phases where they could not get a relationship no matter how low their standards were. I was in a major with ~90% men and my workplaces were similarly unbalanced. It seemed to be most of my classmates and coworkers were in that boat of being single wanting to find a gf. This has changed we got older, richer and got life more figured out. It is hard to sympathize with women saying they can't find relationships when you realize there is a lot unsaid in that statement abo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/23 06:32 AM