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It's okay for women to do it. That's empowering. It's bad when men look at it. That fuels rape.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 08:32 PM
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Please confine your trolling to a context where it makes sense.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 08:20 PM
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Isn't October domestic violence awareness month? Why is this the thing we're focusing on? There are dozens of subreddits for lbgt issues, one for mr. The on-topic discussion is being diluted.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 08:09 PM
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diminishing returns I don't think that term means what you think it means...
/r/MensRights04/10/11 07:28 PM
1

Did you then stop and think about how everyone outside of (traditional) feels about this? I'm absolutely not going to sit around and try to conceive of every possible mentality, then empathize with each one before I do or say anything. I'm going to proceed with my life without malevolent intent, and trust that no one gets their panties in a twist over some contrived bullshit. If they do, I attribute it to their unwarranted interpretations stemming from their projected insecurities.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 07:26 PM
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Ooh, hyperbole came out to play. So there was no reality in his observation that the news media uses fear to get ratings, and this has had a negative effect on the American psyche? You were totally okay with insurance companies denying coverage based on preexisting conditions? Oh wait, you said it wasn't based in reality, so that's never happened. I guess jobs moving overseas isn't a problem either. I bet I could come up with more examples if I were to spend another second thinking. Long story s…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 07:07 PM
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If you're going by the perspective of the country that goes to war, there's never been a battle fought for anything but defense. You're chasing a premise, sir or madam.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 06:54 PM
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Holy talking out of your ass. Did you do an analysis of variance between 'patriarchy' and 'warfare'? How did you contrive to measure these constructs such to make them interval variables? And I'm supposed to look at pot shards to corroborate this data? Please delete your comment. It's the most absurd idiocy.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 06:45 PM
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Better than dying.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 11:03 PM
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Haha, these guys want equal protection by law.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 10:57 PM
1

So put links in the sidebar and make statements supporting those groups. You don't do their job for them. There's work here to do.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 09:15 PM
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3/26000 And you're right. I forgot about the false flag feminists. Guess they finally pulled it off.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 09:14 PM
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...In /geek, /lgbt, /programming, the front page, /TIL, or any of the other subreddits on the subject of homosexual rights, computers and technology, government oppression and history. There's tons of places for this stuff elsewhere on reddit, but there's only been one subreddit designated for the discussion of how society treats men as a whole. Now apparently there's one half of one subreddit dedicated to it, because now /MR is about men's rights AND lbgt rights. When we had this discussion abo…
/r/MensRights29/09/11 02:29 AM
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WE SAW IT
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:34 PM
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It sickens me that someone can just say stupid, hateful shit like you just did, and actually receive 2 upvotes. FIND ME ONE FUCKING MRA THAT WANTS TO TAKE THE VOTE AWAY FROM WOMEN. You dishonest, rhetorically misleading fucking slime. Let's make everything safe for kids, otherwise the 'omg srsly misogynist' imaginary mra's will be too powerful! You invent a problem with the movement that can only be solved by hitting the breaks. I hate you.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:30 PM
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You know what else sucks? Hunger in Sudan. They're staring down droughts that have the potential to force 3/4 of a million people to starve. This is absolutely a topic that should be talked and cared about everywhere SO LET'S FUCKING SPEND ALL OF OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT INSTEAD OF WHAT WE CAME HERE TO DISCUSS AND POSSIBLY CHANGE. I suppose if we don't, we're a hate group? Fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:25 PM
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I feel like I had just noticed that for the last few months, no one's said anything about 'shaming language' which was a running theme for the subreddit for a while. Apparently we stopped talking about it because we started listening to it.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 10:14 PM
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Even when you hold the majority opinion, such as in the case with the 'march on wall street' people, you're still considered a joke for protesting.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 03:54 AM
1

Wow, there have been a couple of antagonists like you sniping the /new section looking for reasons to marginalize anything that doesn't seek to privilege women above all other things. Find what you were looking for, toots? Getting past the stupid title you're comfortable generalizing and the vote ratio you're comfortable ignoring... do you not see how disgusting it is to make a national TV event out of the homelessness problem, and choose the single least impacted demographic as the sole recipie…
/r/MensRights26/09/11 03:46 AM
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Hey look, the trolls pretending to be mra's and the trolls pretending to be egalitarian are making friends! Such a coincidence they found each other on this baiting thread.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 03:20 AM
2

How did feminism cause the sexualization of children?
/r/MensRights25/09/11 10:51 PM
2

Attracting*
/r/MensRights25/09/11 09:37 PM
2

Shill.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 12:00 AM
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Isn't your analogy begging the question?
/r/MensRights23/09/11 11:28 PM
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Evidence that women in general are hyper-paranoid about danger coming from the male gender is completely irrelevant. Or it's the engine that fuels misandry. Either or.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 09:07 PM
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I think the thing that really bugs me is that in 40 years, they'll talk in somber tones about how they took part in something that was larger than themselves.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 03:36 AM
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What's the point of you?
/r/MensRights21/09/11 07:05 PM
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I don't think it's productive to pretend that seeking equality would benefit women.
/r/MensRights21/09/11 07:04 PM
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I bet you could solve a lot of violence on the US southern border by not allowing any brown people in, if you were going to base your morality only on results.
/r/MensRights21/09/11 02:43 AM
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Penis
/r/MensRights21/09/11 02:29 AM
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Amazing that you can come to a forum for people trying to achieve equal rights, accuse them of being a hate movement, then have a post joking about how they might dislike the accusation be so highly upvoted. Is there nothing but misandrist trolls here now?
/r/MensRights18/09/11 03:28 AM
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This casual accusation of rape needs to be downvoted more.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 03:22 AM
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Source? And if what you're saying is true... how do you conflate the readers of a message board upvoting a link that seems relevant to an organized conspiracy against the truth? Fucking antagonists and your veiled intentions.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 03:07 AM
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The portion of feminists who feel that way is ~= to the portion of MRAs that feel that way Right, and one group can point to discrimination written in law, while the other defends those inequalities. Totally equivalent.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 02:59 AM
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Thank goodness we have level headed people like you making sure no one thinks the wrong thing.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 02:55 AM
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I'm starting to really like Obama for how he can make both sides of any issue absolutely hate him for not going far enough their way.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 02:53 AM
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The cultural expectations of each gender and balance of power between them in the dating world has nothing to do with mens rights. -Paraphrased ironically
/r/MensRights16/09/11 11:27 PM
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The rape culture that actually exists is the militant 'take back the night', 'slut walk' and fear mongering that convinces people like you that rape continues to be an epidemic, despite being at a historical low (along with all other violent crime). Rape culture is what demonizes male sexuality and makes women afraid to exist in a world that has men in it. Rape culture = shark attack coverage.
/r/MensRights16/09/11 05:25 AM
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No one cares about your personal story. We care that you're perpetuating rape culture with propaganda.
/r/MensRights16/09/11 02:43 AM
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I like that term. I hope it, or something with it's meaning catches on.
/r/MensRights16/09/11 02:35 AM
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People used to be able to have an iota of fun when they were working before human resources.
/r/MensRights16/09/11 01:48 AM
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Different things can't have different boxes?
/r/MensRights14/09/11 02:37 AM
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I don't even understand what they are saying.
/r/MensRights14/09/11 02:01 AM
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You're so proud of your schoolyard shit that you're going to follow me around and remind me of it? You know back then I was talking about having different rights for different genders being against the idea of /mr, right?
/r/MensRights13/09/11 09:36 AM
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I imagined your caps lock to be a 5 year old screaming, eventually being too high pitched to understand. That's when I stopped reading.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 11:31 PM
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Evolution is disprovable. You can find one fossil where it's not supposed to be and tear down the whole thing. You trannies don't have a single thing that can disprove what you believe. That means your beliefs are not rational. I can take a female to male transsexual's DNA and see two X chromosomes. Fuck you and your bigotry, along with your false analogies to evolution. You're just like all the other slimy piece of shit trannies (and only the ones who do this qualify as such) that feel like the…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:42 PM
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These are not our opinions. This is backed up by the neurological, genetic, and psychological communities. No you're not. Those communities (except genetic) acknoledge there are people who psychologically identify as something other than their biological sex. The key phrase there is 'something other than their biological sex'. You're insisting on retroactively changing peoples definitions of biological fact solely because of your feelings and political correctness. But you insist on it to the po…
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:33 PM
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Fuck you and your false appeals to authority. You have no right to bully others' into your worldview. How dare you try to shame anyone who disagrees with you as a bigot. Shame on you.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:24 PM
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and that they should be provided the same rights as somebody born as the corresponding sex. I think this sentence goes against the entire concept of mens rights.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:12 AM
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it is only deception if you believe that a trans woman isn't a woman A trans woman is a man. Who are you to enforce your opinions on sexuality onto others?
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:07 AM
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Keep trying to stir shit, troll.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:05 AM
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You're both children. One stubborn, the other with vellum skin. Frankly, I respect the stubborn one more.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 12:01 AM
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But thanks for replying with something thoughtful instead of something retarded like "good riddence". Go fuck yourself, expecting a more civilized tone than you opened with.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 04:16 AM
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The double standards are a topic of interest, not the story. It's the reactions and framing of the topic you're talking about that is the topic being discussed here. That thread is about the story of the [victim card] having personal drama. This thread is about the reaction to that story, and the social support people of a certain gender receive for committing acts of violence on another gender.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 04:15 AM
1

Now on another subject, I'll go off on the prison-industrial/congressional complex and the ratcheting effect of 'tough on crime' politicians. But is the sentencing severity of convicted rapists really the battle to fight here? Btw, SexyPerson is a days old account with negative karma. This sub is becoming nothing but trolls trying to farm negative quotes for SRS.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 11:07 PM
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I'm almost certain you're a troll now. "I'm not even going to acknowledge your point about arbitrary sexual harassment policies in many workplaces until you provide me with documented proof"
/r/MensRights09/09/11 10:22 PM
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MR is the only reddit that has to defend EVERYTHING that anyone posts on it. MR is the only reddit that isn't allowed to have humor or irony on it's front page. People get so 'concerned' whenever that happens. Ever think these 'rules', set in place by our troll overseers, are active just so no one here develops a sense of community?
/r/MensRights09/09/11 10:10 PM
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He's illustrating your false analogy and introducing a point of his own: that someone accused of a crime should be afforded a fair trial.
/r/MensRights08/09/11 12:37 PM
2

The comments. It's great to see something being done for women that will benefit them in the long run. Too many times it's a case of 'jobs for the boys'. Grab the advantage while you can.
/r/MensRights08/09/11 08:52 AM
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Option one: Read it. Option two: Don't post. Troll.
/r/MensRights08/09/11 08:46 AM
1

On the front page of SRS there are 25 submissions. In the top 10, there are only two linking to r/mensrights posts Last I checked, it was 10/25 And by the "same problems" I mean bitter, misogynistic nerds who use MR as a platform for their bigotry and perpetually miss the point. The people who rage about FEMINAZISM without even a rudimentary understanding of feminism's history, theory, or literature. From where, I wonder, would people develop a persecution complex...
/r/MensRights06/09/11 09:09 PM
1

This commercial makes the man out to be savvy while it makes the woman out to be a reactionary bitch.
/r/MensRights06/09/11 09:06 PM
2

A hundred comments about how we shouldn't be trying to excuse this guy over what the girl did a while ago (as if that's what this is about). Not a single post about the double standard. Are there any MRAs left here, or is it all feminists shaming an empty room?
/r/MensRights04/09/11 08:28 PM
1

Christians believe in botany.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 09:33 PM
1

Obama lost my vote well before this with his cowardice. I'm always amused by people grandstanding about what earned or lost their vote over a year before an election, but 'cowardice' is so vague it's hard not to wonder what you're talking about. this blatant attempt to push more men out of higher education by making it a hostile education environment for young men is outrageous. I'm not saying it won't have the effect you're predicting... but do you honestly think this was his motivation? What c…
/r/MensRights03/09/11 09:32 PM
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I'm thirteen weeks and craving starburst. And I just saved a life.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 02:06 AM
1

I was going to say the same thing as that guy, but I was going to use a winky face. Now I just feel like you should relax a bit.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 01:59 AM
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I thought I was a misogynist for wanting to have sex with women.
/r/MensRights02/09/11 10:46 PM
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Hmm... a troll account called 'what mra believes' has a survey for MR. Get fucked.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 10:29 PM
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What the fuck is with the flipping things.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 09:08 PM
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If mens organizations were allowed to exist, they might have organized a protest.
/r/MensRights30/08/11 09:32 PM
2

It's stupid and self destructive to have a relationship with someone you meet at work. Fine. I'll be robotic and polite around women at work and never explicitly try to talk to any of them like people behind the suit. Safe. Now it's stupid and self destructive to have a relationship with someone you meet at school...
/r/MensRights30/08/11 09:27 PM
1

You should have fallen down in front of her and started crying despite yourself.
/r/MensRights26/08/11 10:15 PM
1

Overpopulation is a problem because people in poor countries keep popping out half a dozen babies, expecting most of them to die. Fix their childhood mortality problem, you fix the population problem.
/r/MensRights26/08/11 08:03 PM
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I like the cut of your jib.
/r/MensRights26/08/11 08:00 PM
2

While I agree with you, there's a niche that's not being filled. There's really nowhere men can go and talk about women without feeling monitored and policed. You're suggesting we police ourselves, lest they police us. One of the issues on MR's periphery has been the destruction of male-safe places. This is something we can solve without even getting out of our internet chairs.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 11:30 PM
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This also works for people who grew up with extremely busy parents and were basically raised by popular culture.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 09:52 PM
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I don't want to drink recycled pee anymore...
/r/MensRights25/08/11 09:50 PM
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CRIMINAL CHARGES?? I have to say the kid is incredibly naive to think "school is a safe place where you can express yourself" But then again... Due to Bivens's discipline history and being insubordinate to administrators and faculty, he was arrested and charged. This reminds me exactly how fucked up high school officials were. Drunk on such a small amount of power...
/r/MensRights25/08/11 09:37 PM
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This creeps me right the fuck out. Not that it's towards men... but to think people are secretly taking pictures of you so thousands can judge you anonymously. Hello agoraphobia.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 08:34 PM
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Nope.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 07:41 PM
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It's just harmless community building. At least it's not another /amr post or concerned feminist asking where we lost our way.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 11:00 AM
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Or it could be in the spam filter.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 10:53 AM
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Build roads in Africa. You'll open up supply lines and make it possible for police forces to patrol. Water and medicine shipments will arrive faster and safer. Travel will improve as will trade. Trade brings peace and unity.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 10:48 AM
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Why don't you guys just admit that the majority of you dislike women You have one now.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 05:57 AM
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I would hazard a guess that since there's always more than one circumcision post per day, the voting has been somewhat diluted. Plus ADL peoples.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 05:56 AM
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"If they're honest with you from the beginning and give you a chance to make a choice in accordance with your views, you needn't be an asshole to them if they were not an asshole to you". This has never happened. My only interaction is having people demand that I change my opinion to suit them, for no reason. Your aggression does not validate you. I bet you could hear my eyes roll through the internet. I'm as far left of center as anyone who faced a McCarthy hearing... and you're the biggest lib…
/r/MensRights25/08/11 05:22 AM
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Thanks for the downvote. Have two. Your bullcunt reply basically boils down to "you're not allowed to say what you think". Fuck you. If saying what I think is disrespecting someone else's definition... they're disrespecting mine by saying what they think. It works both ways.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 04:54 AM
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hurr
/r/MensRights24/08/11 07:36 PM
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While I agree with you, here's my thoughts. If someone is going to angrily and forcefully demand that I change my personal definitions of sex and gender, I'm going to smack them in the face with my refusal to do so. And I'm going to get a sick pleasure out of their undeserved outrage.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 06:51 PM
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Ah the old classics. Haven't seen a feminist troll reference a dictionary definition in a while.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 06:44 PM
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I know as a female, you're not really exposed to sexism that much, but this is the kind of shit you really have to deal with, when interacting with your gender. Don't come in here with your privilege and tell us what is and isn't sexist towards us. You have no idea how common this shit is, since you're not bombarded with it all the time.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 06:34 PM
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Remember that cop that said you should stop dressing like sluts to prevent getting raped? Yeah, he was being satirical. And you feminists are so stupid and inept, you'd think The Onion was being genuine if us intelligent men weren't around to inform you otherwise. Sexist, apologist piece of shit. This comment should be taken entirely at face value. No sarcasm at all.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 06:29 PM
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We do if we're on the dance floor! Ho-ho!
/r/MensRights23/08/11 09:11 PM
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Please don't use "um" to start a thought. It's a verbal tick used to delay while you think of what you're going to say next... but in type there's no reasonable use of it. It's just a deliberate attempt to sound like a teenage girl being passive aggressive. Please stop, it drives me crazy.
/r/MensRights23/08/11 09:01 PM
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Serving up blatant but under-reported stories of sexism may be the best form of activism for the MRM at this stage. We just need more 'smoking guns' like this.
/r/MensRights23/08/11 08:55 PM
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In terms of putting the matter to rest, I really would have preferred to see the case be thrown out based on it's own evidence, rather than a history of being deceitful. I was under the impression there were more directly relevant inconsistencies. Now the matter will forever be left to speculation, and the lesson of 'slow, deliberate prosecution is best' will be lost to both sides.
/r/MensRights23/08/11 08:49 PM
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TIL about metareddit.
/r/MensRights23/08/11 12:12 PM
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Gay today works how black did in 1901. "Single drop" theory. Not how it actually works... or that there's anything wrong with that... I just don't know how to talk about these things...
/r/MensRights23/08/11 11:53 AM
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Must be blind enough to think I'm gorgeous. Oh-ho! This one's got a sense of humor! I guess that's what she's offering in exchange for her laundry list of requirements. So... Why is this here?
/r/MensRights23/08/11 11:13 AM
1

I see. Reddit is not a fan of Douglas Adams...
/r/MensRights23/08/11 04:11 AM
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Relevance?
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:37 PM
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TOGTFO gave you a perspective from inside the trenches of a flame war. Let me give you a broader view of the field, and you can decide if it's children fighting. This subreddit was formed and grew because of legitimate concerns people have for the state of gender equality in the world. Culturally, there's a predisposition to view men as strong and invulnerable, women as weak and victimized. So when a study comes out showing that domestic violence is pretty much evenly split between the genders, …
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:26 PM
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The vast majority of people just read. Everyone here is on a small stage in a big theater.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 09:03 PM
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I think the fashion world is more about the designers trying to express themselves than the models.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 08:24 PM
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Hey, the troll without a soul is back. I hope you eat each other.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 11:41 PM
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Am I paranoid to think that 'mra102' is a AMR false flag, used just so they could have that link?
/r/MensRights21/08/11 11:40 PM
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no one takes that as license to treat them as sexual objects that owe them a show In crazy feminist world, men circle around women and demand dances.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 10:33 PM
0

Great. So your solution to feeling like a pervert for looking at women is to feel like I'm committing a crime by looking at women. I hate you.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 10:24 PM
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Already, women feel that they are of a high social standing simply for having a vagina. This is worth a submission all it's own. We should do a fundamental cultural reality series.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 10:09 PM
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Women wouldn't possibly want to buy clothes that they themselves find flattering to their figures, that make them feel beautiful independent of male attraction. Male attraction, culturally, defines what 'beautiful' is. Same the other way. But it's disingenuous to think that people try to look sexually appealing (and that's what all this visual beauty is) independent of the target sex. Then again, you could be taking that into consideration. "I'm dressing like this so men are attracted to me so I…
/r/MensRights21/08/11 10:06 PM
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Only if they come to my table and offer different cuts of themselves.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 09:56 PM
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Your words don't carry as much weight as watching city streets filled with women demonizing all men as potential rapists. They just don't. Or watching tv and movies my entire life growing up and watching how popular culture depicts the relation between the sexes.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 09:53 PM
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I can only half agree with you. It may be a biological thing, but it's definitely a cultural thing that only men get called on.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 09:47 PM
1

Oh, for fuck's sake. NO U
/r/MensRights21/08/11 09:18 PM
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You're funny. You keep repeating yourself as if the people around you don't understand what you're saying. We do. We all do. No one is missing your meaning, you're the one missing everyone elses. You're wrong because of your definition of consent. And you're a really shitty person for what you're arguing for... and how you've conducted yourself since you started arguing. Far more because of the latter than the former. Really. You're a bad person. Deeply. That's why everyone is so angry at you.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 08:21 AM
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The fifth is actually totally accurate. Perfect example of someone with food poisoning squatting down and spraying a big puddle of barbadosslim. Nothing but the declarative statement "I'm right, you're wrong". And when someone calls you on pulling a barbad- "I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG! THAT'S ALL I EVER HAVE TO SAY! RAPIST!!". You're repetitive, but so is a dog fetching. It's fun being an intellectual bully. Why point out anything else, when you have such a perfect example? :) And don't ever cal…
/r/MensRights21/08/11 08:11 AM
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Should I add this reply to the gag reel? You're begging the question again. Plus you're ignoring every actual point that... fuck it. I'm just going to call your entire M.O. 'pulling a barbadosslim'. You pulled a stinking pile of barbadosslim just now.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 07:57 AM
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if you think misogynist shit is true then you're a fucking misogynist, you fucking misogynist you're a piece of shit, and fuck you Trolling. If a dude is drunk and has sex with a drunk girl, did they rape each other? No. The one who raped the other one is a rapist, and the rape victim is not a rapist. The rape victim is the one who feels like they got raped. The rapist is the one who fucked the other one even though they couldn't consent. Usually in a man-woman situation that's the man, but it d…
/r/MensRights21/08/11 07:49 AM
5

You wouldn't believe. I just had someone flaunt 24 hours of trolling under the name disposable-human (note the dash) at me, before deleting the account. Sick son of a bitch was attacking a female service member doing an AMA with sexist shit.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 06:33 AM
1

No shit, 'bees with vinegar' man.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 06:11 AM
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Oh, hell no.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 04:56 AM
3

I'm going to let you know how I've amended my impression of you. I didn't say that at all. No, you didn't. And she didn't say you did. That's you doing what you accused someone of doing, who was in fact innocent of it. Kind of poetic in a discussion thread of a girl raping a guy and accusing him of rape (I don't think he'd consent to sex if he knew she was going to accuse him of rape, and if a girl can withdraw consent after the fact...) What girlwriteswhat did was give you a conditional. Either…
/r/MensRights21/08/11 04:09 AM
2

Don't even rely on your family. I've heard of parents disowning children on the accusation.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 04:02 AM
6

Dude, you're like five months behind on the organization level of theirs. Must go deeper.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 03:52 AM
8

The feminists that downvoted you know they're going to hell. Who do you think sent them?
/r/MensRights21/08/11 03:48 AM
15

I've never seen you make an argument that wasn't an orphaned declarative.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 03:46 AM
2

Nothing about that says you're sub, or not human. Just of dubious moral compass and intelligence. I reaffirm this.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 03:34 AM
1

I don't call people subhuman filth. That's your racket. Stop projecting your way of disagreeing with people onto me.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 03:30 AM
1

No... I explained myself ONCE. And that's all you deserve.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 03:27 AM
1

Would you believe the mistake I fixed with spellcheck was actually closer to the right word? Yeah, me either.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 03:26 AM
1

go fuck yourself You're already past the point where I'd try reason. Piece of shit detriment to the cause. Go cut your nose and blame me.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 12:39 AM
1

I just linked this to a feminist I'm arguing in another thread, but it applies equally to you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance#Other_related_phenomena
/r/MensRights21/08/11 12:13 AM
1

No shit, you don't.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 12:08 AM
1

If you wanted me to quote it, you could have scrolled up to see where I quoted it before you asked me. Enjoy your new troll tag, guy who hasn't read any of my dozens of highly upvoted MRA related posts. Fucking idiots... on my side and ruining it.
/r/MensRights21/08/11 12:02 AM
1

I have you tagged as a troll to this subreddit specifically. I'm not fond of you and your dishonest, hateful attempts to disparage equal rights and men in general. The rub is, I believe you think you're on the right side of this, and that you can be as dishonest and uneven-handed as you want to be because of it. Afterthought edit: I put you into the same category as evangelical christians who think it's righteous to re-train gay people.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:53 PM
1

I guess you just aren't gonna get it, you feckless ideologue.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:43 PM
1

Well you're just a rapist then.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:42 PM
4

They said 'you're moving with your antie and uncle in bel-aire.'
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:36 PM
3

You should probably avoid sex yourself, so you don't feel raped and accuse someone innocent of it.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:31 PM
2

The hell you aren't. You're saying that coercion completely eliminates the possibility of consent. You're saying that things a person willingly does to themselves completely removes their ability to consent. You can be pressured and still say no. You can drink and still be held liable for your actions if you run someone over.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:30 PM
3

Ah, so you can redefine 'consent' to be whatever you want it to be, but when I take an extreme interpretation of your argument, I'm being unreasonable. Sometimes I like to illustrate my points by being meta argumentative. Thanks for walking right into it. edit: lol 'obey'
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:24 PM
7

Your lack of character is illustrated by your eagerness to re-frame situations to paint those who disagree with you as evil. Just like this very comment.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:22 PM
3

There's not an intelligent synapse in your cerebrum, or a shred of honesty in your character.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:16 PM
3

"Be afraid of ever having any kind of contact with women. You were born a rapist"
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:14 PM
3

I refer you to my previous comment, where I point out your intellectual dishonesty by making self-serving definitions (that are actually quite ignorant of reality and destructive if implemented... but you're not here to listen, only to preech)
/r/MensRights20/08/11 11:01 PM
4

Ahhh, so you just came in to tell us evil men what's what. Very progressive.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 10:58 PM
1

...eight, nine, ten, eleven... twelve! Twelve deleted dissenting opinions! Ah ah ah ah...
/r/MensRights20/08/11 10:30 PM
5

...Are you a false flag MRA pointing out the false flag feminist, and in the process trying to make feminists look like batshit crazy, evil people? This is getting confusing.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 10:19 PM
3

Hah. You're not willing to have the conversation, you're just going to quote where you started it. Speaks to the intellectual honesty of your movement.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 10:14 PM
-5

That's an interesting take. Really illustrates what kind of can of worms the feminists (and yes I blame them) opened up when they managed to change the definition of rape from "forced" to "coerced sex".
/r/MensRights20/08/11 10:09 PM
5

It means you're framing the conversation based on your own definition of consent, which isn't a reasonable one.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 10:07 PM
1

Not central enough, IMO
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:28 PM
1

I don't know why you used ` as your apostrophe, I'm just glad I learned another way to format my text!
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:26 PM
8

Take a walk.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:09 PM
2

I know you're playing yourself off as a crazy feminist, but are you actually a crazy puritanical christian trying to prevent sex in the first place?
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:08 PM
6

What??? An unreasonable standard that goes BOTH ways??
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:07 PM
1

Haha, yeah. It's just like a religion.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:05 PM
6

If the person you want to have sex with is sober and enthusiastically agrees to sex, then go for it. Otherwise, don't. In her example, you don't even have to accuse the person of rape. He's just a rapist by definition.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:04 PM
1

Cognitive dissidence.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:02 PM
-1

Soviet Russia
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:59 PM
7

Oh hey, someone I've had tagged as a troll for a while now posts with a simplistic yet narrow definition of consent that puts one person's responsibilities completely on another person. And to top it off, she suggests any disagreement means you're a potential rapist.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:58 PM
0

The female gender has been branded better than the male one. Probably a product of consumer spending demographics. Seems so anyway.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 08:09 PM
1

The false flag trolls.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 09:11 PM
1

You don't strike...
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:59 PM
1

...me as...
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:58 PM
1

...the thoughtful patient type.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:57 PM
1

Oh, and to reply to the other thing: proof of a tactic failing is evidence of a tactic succeeding.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:30 PM
2

That illistrates a theme I'm starting to notice in reasonable debate on all kinds of issues. I can't say if it's a developing trend and I don't know exactly how to articulate my impression of it... other to say it feels like people are thinking less in depth these days. As soon as someone finds an explanation that's intuitive on some level, they seem to stop looking for more information. And they get extremely defensive about these things they've made their minds up about. I'm not just talking a…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:27 PM
1

You're stupid enough to think that feeling doesn't go both ways. I bet my reading comprehension is better than yours. I promise you.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:11 PM
1

Meow!
/r/MensRights19/08/11 08:10 AM
2

Asking to be in an abusive relationship...
/r/MensRights19/08/11 04:30 AM
5

1) Download Reddit Enhancement Suite 2) Start tagging people with "troll?", "troll" and "[subreddit] specific troll". 3) Never be surprised by comments again
/r/MensRights19/08/11 03:47 AM
1

I no longer count you among the reasonable minds in this subreddit. I used to.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 02:53 AM
1

This is speculation: I genuinely believe that the element of angry folks that try to discredit this subreddit actually upvote posts of people who are the most hateful and ignorant. I bet some of them actually create those comments. Then they link in their subreddits their proof that this is a hate movement that wants to take voting rights away from non-land owners.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 01:02 AM
2

Good morning, troll that could only hold the 'concern' veneer for a little over a day!
/r/MensRights18/08/11 10:22 PM
1

Dude... I agree with you on the content of your argument. I took offense at your behavior towards someone who had already capitulated, admitted they were wrong, and amended their position to reflect the equality in the argument posed to her/him. People like you provide the raw power to drive the movement, but left to yourselves, your blind, sputtering rage will drive us over a cliff. PICK YOUR BATTLES. And understand that when your opponent cedes even a fraction of an inch, IT'S TIME TO SOFTEN U…
/r/MensRights18/08/11 10:06 PM
2

You should have seen the karma hit I took from saying we should protest the Voice/Sharon Osbourne thing and not go after advertisers because of the ripple effect that kind of reactionary censorship has on the rest of media. There's an element of the subreddit that is extremely insular, and believes the line you should toe is vanishingly thin. This subreddit is almost worth coming to regardless of it's content and intent just because of the people here. You have the tunnel vision MRA's who will c…
/r/MensRights18/08/11 09:57 PM
2

Oooh, bold. Had to blur my eyes for that one.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 11:47 AM
1

I'm gonna go back to not reading and downvoting for a while
/r/MensRights18/08/11 10:23 AM
1

Don't read into my emotional state. You don't have to be angry to wish death on someone. I just genuinely think the world would be a better place without you, and I bear you enough ill will from our interactions that I would rather it be excruciating. I settle for watching you spin your wheels. And downvoting. In case you're curious, my RES tag for you is "soulless".
/r/MensRights18/08/11 10:17 AM
1

Yeah, I knew you'd come back with that. Your whole post was two very short words and word recognition got the best of me. Top-down neural processing is a bitch. I'd still like you to be hung upside down and sawed in half in front of your family though. If I had a time machine, I could probably track you down and make that happen. Now I've turned the otherwise negative experience of knowing about you, and I've turned it into making a list of things I'd do if I had a time machine. That's my anti-t…
/r/MensRights18/08/11 09:55 AM
1

Holy shit. You honestly think that your opinion is absolute and that to disagree with you is to disagree with the concept of men's rights. You even put it in bold. How can you be a megalomaniac on an internet discussion forum?
/r/MensRights18/08/11 09:52 AM
1

Now you're getting it!
/r/MensRights18/08/11 09:15 AM
0

I read your name, and without reading I downvoted. Just like last time, just like the next time.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 08:35 AM
0

I saw your name, I downvoted and I typed this. Nothing else happened.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 07:29 AM
2

In my opinion, these women ought to be paying support for their children. No, s/he took the other possible 'equality' position: women who were raped and had their childrens custody taken away should have to pay child support just like the inverse. You clearly didn't read it carefully before starting your angry trolling. A good idea for you would be to calm the fuck down. Being heated like you seem to be (all the time) makes you dumb and sloppy.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 05:15 AM
0

Depends on how many sides you think there are and on what issues. I'm not a fan of either side when they're dishonest in the way they debate. That includes quoting out of context.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 01:44 AM
1

60 years ago.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 12:55 AM
1

It does bother me that there are blind ideologues like yourself on my side, but that doesn't mean I'm ready to jump the fence yet.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 12:53 AM
-1

I'd rather he be here than you, this interaction considered.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 12:43 AM
2

I tip my hat to you for your patience and ambivalence towards karma. You're defending someone who's doing something wrong for the right reasons against people who are attacking her for the wrong reasons. I don't think I'd have the patience. Upvotes for all your posts.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 12:25 AM
2

Someone staring divorce court in the face.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 11:36 PM
2

Yeah! The real crime here was infidelity! ...ಠ_ಠ I suppose you'd consider it 'benevolent sexism' to excuse women for their crimes based on their emotional state, or the actions of the victim. The actions of the victim. Blaming the victim. BLAMING THE VICTIM.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 11:29 PM
1

But in the court of ideas, common knowledge is true until proven false. It's how science works and it's how presumption of innocence works in court. Why do you feel that you can dismiss 'common knowledge' offhand, and ask for proof when you're the one trying to argue against it?
/r/MensRights17/08/11 11:18 PM
7

Yup. It's got nothing to do with how women run businesses are given preference when awarding government contracts. It's about cartoons.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:40 PM
10

Actually most are. It's a pretty commonly known fact. Find one, please. Instead of just saying shit because no one can look you in the face and call you a liar.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:26 PM
7

patriarchy lol, troll.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:23 PM
3

This picture makes me wish I had a teleporter and a sledgehammer.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:22 PM
0

Kill yourself.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:21 PM
-1

Kill yourself.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:21 PM
1

Works for me. I don't see much of a difference between /malestudies and /againstmensrights. Both are the extreme wings of the two arguing sides... both ban people preemptively for having differing opinions.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:15 PM
0

More flinging shit, more content-less attacks and hostility. What have you done productive on this earth to counteract your behavior in just the last 48 hours? Consider suicide.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 11:29 AM
1

Hey look, someone who just gave up the fact that they're not here to discuss, they're here to 'inform and educate'. Die.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 11:27 AM
2

It's my impression that 9/10 of the trolls that test this subreddit genuinely believe in what they're saying. If not more.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 11:21 AM
3

In the spirit of policing your own... what the fuck is wrong with you? You have to continue attacking after someone admits they were wrong and changes their mind? What. The. Fuck??? Is 'winning' internet arguments actually more important to you than advancing equal rights and changing minds??
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:48 AM
6

So... what do you want this subreddit to do about it?
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:38 AM
0

Feckless trolls run out of steam quickly. Weren't you were vaunting your creativity and intelligence earlier? All you did was double down on libel after being accused of malicious characterizations. And you haven't killed yourself yet.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:34 AM
2

You've maligned an entire group of people trying to organize for such causes. You're busy trolling an entire subreddit. You're not doing it to /pics or /programming... you're doing it to a group of people who see a wrong and want to fix it. You've ignored the actual intent and decided to represent them as a hate group. You don't have a fucking soul.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:16 AM
1

Holy fuck, you're a condescending, closed minded piece of shit. This is what I will link anyone who asks about you.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 10:04 AM
2

who's quite apt in the arts of mockery and insults. You're a hack. And as a troll, you're insecure enough to seek approval from others Looking through your comment history, it seems like you got tired of commenting in a thoughtful, intelligent way and just decided to start trolling. I genuinely hope you die. Constantly I see you deliberately misrepresenting the people you disagree with, just so you can use your own cartoonish interpretation of their thoughts to disparage them and anything connec…
/r/MensRights17/08/11 09:58 AM
1

Bullshit, you ugly, undesirable cunt. You came here to stir shit. So far all I can ascertain is that you don't want to pay any child support and you think that women sit around buying shoes with child support money while the children starve
/r/MensRights17/08/11 09:28 AM
1

"Resort"? When we're talking specific issues, it's serious time. When it's feminist invasion time, I like to loosen up and make fun of sputtering rage.
/r/MensRights17/08/11 07:58 AM
1

Strong predictive correlation. r = .623
/r/MensRights16/08/11 10:44 PM
2

You have the patience of a saint.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 10:35 PM
1

Fun watching feminists spin their wheels, bluffing they have traction. Nice strawman while complaining about strawmen, dummy.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 10:31 PM
3

This is how you troll. Plausible deniability. Touch briefly on the important issues, just before you completely misrepresent them: There are many aspects of society in which males get the short end of the stick... However... the dominant rally call is "women can have abortions so we shouldn't have to be fathers against our will" Now you can finally get to be insulting! Don't forget to use the Fox News rhetorical device "people are saying".... people tend to think you're all a bunch of selfish ma…
/r/MensRights16/08/11 10:22 PM
3

I worked briefly for a staffing company. When a company would call asking for a person, they'd tell us what they wanted. Usually women from 18-34, white or hispanic. We'd have to go through all our files by hand, because we didn't save anything to computer. I had to sign a NDA.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 09:46 PM
2

Sweden is one of the last places on earth that is mostly white, and therefore its known to still have some politeness in their culture -ABsynth808 It's an unfortunate truth we're all too ready to ignore. This subreddit gets some crazies in it.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 12:25 PM
3

No. You asked why we would care. You asked why 25,000 would care what I had to say. Hmmm. Gee, let me ask all 25,000 people and Ill get back to you. You just corrected me on what I said, despite quoting me yourself and getting a more detailed explanation of my meaning? Then you go on to mock what you're telling me I said? The only benefit I'm getting out of this interaction is practicing the ability to articulate exactly why someone is full of shit. I may or may not swing at your next pitch; let…
/r/MensRights16/08/11 12:07 PM
4

The question was "why do you think [supporting clause]". I was asking you to describe your thoughts behind something. In this case it's the foregone conclusion that the gender of a message board mod would matter to the board's audience. Sure in asking I implied that they wouldn't, but I guess I just assume the best in people. You should really try to have a better attitude if you're going to call people trolls. Lil pro tip for ya.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 11:56 AM
1

I never said anything about what anyone else thinks but you. I asked you why you thought that would matter.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 11:38 AM
5

Why do you think we'd care if kloo was a woman?
/r/MensRights16/08/11 02:47 AM
1

The novelty has worn off
/r/MensRights15/08/11 08:39 PM
7

How did gasoline find its way into the bedroom, if this wasn't premeditated?
/r/MensRights15/08/11 09:26 AM
1

Exactly what I was expecting, a link to a website that cites 'climate change fraud' as being a related update to a story about fracking. Basically a website that gives you just enough information to justify your point of view. Not many of those out there, right? Nothing that actually absolves the practice of hydrofracking of the environmental damage it's been seen to cause. Just something that suggests something might be going on with one of the several points against the practice. So... documen…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 11:22 PM
1

Okay, bluffing as informed. What facts? While you're searching, understand that whatever you come up with has to override the fact that fracking has been made exempt to the clean air, land and water acts, while no one outside of the industry knows what chemicals they use. And if you can do that, understand that I won't take you very seriously because we're talking about a procedure that by definition, can't be done in a controlled way. So basically, I'll grant you a small victory and acknowledge…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 10:04 PM
3

Nope. No silent downvote squads in this subreddit.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 09:50 PM
1

environmentalists were huge supporters of fracking all the way up until Bush and Cheney got involved We should definitely poison the New York City aquifer just because you believe at one point an environmentalist changed his mind once. Typical republican. "Don't consider the actual problem. Those people are jerks, that means we're right!".
/r/MensRights14/08/11 09:40 PM
-1

Thank god you're stupid. I was worried you'd be one of those tenacious, intelligent trolls. Good to see that's just what you're trying for. Here's how you just tipped your hand: the science fiction part is where men have their reproductive rights elevated to the point of equality to that of women. A good MR troll, a smart one, wouldn't even tacitly acknowledge any MR issue as having merit whatsoever. Just wanted to laugh at you on your first day, watching you trip and land in mud. Edit: By the w…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 01:21 AM
1

That's fine. You can just say shit without context and people will believe you and come to the same conclusions as you. That's why you have your own subreddits.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 01:15 AM
10

all the sexist and racist shit that gets widely praised here How hypocritical of you to say shit like this and demand proof of your own personal misandry. You've been extremely active in your one day of having the account, and I've never seen a post of yours that wasn't insulting. So fuck your proof, asshole. I'm inviting anyone who might believe you're being genuine to go to your hit-squad subreddit themselves, and see what /mr relevent posts they find, and how the discussion is framed. Just se…
/r/MensRights14/08/11 01:14 AM
-1

Both people don't want it: abortion/adoption Both people want it: keep it. Those are the easy ones. Woman wants it, man doesn't: 'financial abortion' Woman doesn't want it, man does: In vitro surrogate swap. You take the embryo out of the pregnant woman, put it into a surrogate and then you glue it in with science. I made an equality. Make me congress.
/r/MensRights13/08/11 11:43 PM
3

Stereotypes like 'the hysterical woman'?? Spend a lot of time watching silent movies, do ya?
/r/MensRights13/08/11 11:35 PM
-2

I don't see anything people could argue for in feminism that hasn't already happened yet. All that's left are things like 'slut walks' and getting upset at the idea of people cat-calling on the street. The only things I see from feminism are expanding on previous victories and defending the gains they've made. When defending the gains they've made involves maintaining the status quo in family courts... now we have a problem. You can't be for equality and feminism, because of this. Feminists want…
/r/MensRights13/08/11 11:22 PM
1

Because I don't want to see my country in a smoldering crater, soaked with hydrofracking chemicals and surrounded by homeless.
/r/MensRights13/08/11 11:16 PM
7

Right, because there are no black people here. ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights13/08/11 11:11 PM
14

Hey, look. It's one of the brand new troll accounts from the very subreddit we're talking about. you pathetic MRA asshats Thanks for backing me up on your trolling, but now I need to make a point. You can just ignore me, since you already know these things. This is for everyone else reading this, you can have your turn to scream your sexist shit later. This subreddit is judged by the upvotes and downvotes in the comments section, for the most part. Yours is currently the highest voted comment in…
/r/MensRights13/08/11 11:06 PM
0

Person A: explains a mechanism by which you could be treated fairly and think you're being treated unfairly. Person B: Shut up! I'm being treated unfairly!
/r/MensRights13/08/11 10:51 PM
1

How did your parents raise you, such that you're comfortable calling people (who all have minds, fyi) mindless? Does a world filled with rational creatures frighten you as being too complicated? I understand that it's a bit of mental work, trying to consider that different people have different motivations and reactions. Much easier to ascribe to all of them the simplest, easiest to categorize motivations. That way you can invalidate the individuality of scores of people, all while condemning th…
/r/MensRights12/08/11 11:35 PM
2

You understand the difference between 'women have the government pay for their birth control' and 'me and my boyfriend split the cost of his condoms', right?
/r/MensRights12/08/11 10:28 PM
0

Yes. Yesterday is too long ago for me to remember silly shit like this.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 03:01 AM
0

You're stupid because you think, regardless of the casualness of the conversation, everyone should be immediately able to defend everything they say. You're lazy because when you're curious about something, you don't try to find it yourself. You're disgusting because you feel you can demand someone elses time and effort to satisfy your curiosity. Now I add to that: you're deliberately dishonest. You're dishonest because you tried to frame the above condemnations as being "for asking a question",…
/r/MensRights11/08/11 12:00 AM
0

There is no burden of proof because it's a conversation and not a legal proceeding. You're a fuck. A dumb one.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 10:56 PM
0

The fuck? Show me the logical fallacy, aspie.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 09:54 PM
0

A creationist trying to make fun of a scientist over a conversation about baseball. No, I'm not going to 'address any of the actual points in' your argument. The fact that you're putting it in those terms makes me want to hold you upside down in a toilet. People are talking here. You're trying to enforce rules on how people are talking.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 09:30 PM
-1

I was mocking you. "Fry" Go back to your aspergers clinic.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 08:30 PM
0

I'm donkey stupid enough to think this is not a court of law
/r/MensRights10/08/11 09:05 AM
1

"your work" like you assigned him a research topic and fully expected him to find it for you. You disgust me.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 12:54 AM
5

Seeing these things over and over defines the attitudes of our culture. It has to be said.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 12:34 AM
7

Women: That man on the street looked at me! I thought I was going to get raped! Thank you officer, for questioning him. Men: I was attacked by my wife with a broken bottle, may I please come into your shelter? I have my children with me. Oh, you're calling the police? No officer, I did not abduct these children. Actually, Exhibit A is preferential treatment to businesses run by women. It's the kind of structural sexism that's been written into law that douchebags like you want to compare to cat-…
/r/MensRights09/08/11 09:23 PM
6

Sorry, but I think "men and women both have it equally bad, let's get along!" is a silly sentiment. Even if you could make the case, measuring item by item, that it's equivalent... the sad truth at the end of it will always mean women are better off. For all the problems and injustices men and women face, society will protect and support women. No one ever gives a shit about men.
/r/MensRights09/08/11 08:56 PM
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Just pick one thing at a time to be upset about
/r/MensRights09/08/11 10:50 AM
5

1878: Research and evidence suggests that light bulbs won't work.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 05:10 PM
4

That means... Oh :(
/r/MensRights07/08/11 02:00 AM
5

The rape rate is the lowest of all violent crimes, and has gone down steadily over the last couple of decades, just like all the other violent crimes. We live in a golden age of peace and safety.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 12:31 AM
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You're forgetting that men are intrinsically offensive, and that any interaction with a woman that she does not initiate is an imposition. That's what I learned, anyway.
/r/MensRights07/08/11 12:25 AM
2

The double standard that's bugging me right now is the one about sentencing disparity. I'm desperate to feel like I'm on the winning side for once, but it doesn't mean I'm going to pick a fight with the retarded kid at school.
/r/MensRights06/08/11 07:34 AM
2

Those things were atrocities because human beings at their core deserve a certain measure of respect and integrity. People have a worth that is independent to how they've decided to best spend their lives. Sorry to hear about your history; it seems like you've been profoundly damaged on a spiritual level. And thank you for accepting that cost in the name of service. It's the reason I never joined.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 10:38 PM
3

I see. You don't view people as having intrinsic worth, so you're measuring them purely according to market value. That's probably the worst thing I've ever heard anyone ever say.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 10:01 PM
3

...Are you trolling me?
/r/MensRights04/08/11 09:42 PM
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Joe (looking away for a moment): well the ones that are smart-- are never funny... Woman (interrupting): --Look in my eyes when you're talking to me. Joe: Oh, I always do that when I'm thinking-- about stuff... Woman (interrupting): --I don't think so, Joe! The only thing that irritates me more than this moment was how that bully cunt kept trying to laugh off every honest reaction to her being over-the-top offensive. Rolling her head, refusing to look him in the eye, using a baby-talk voice when…
/r/MensRights04/08/11 09:17 PM
3

People's efforts can be worth different things, depending on training and expertise. It's not unfair to buy a higher value labor for more money. People should be considered equal as human beings and should reasonably expect a minimum level of respect. Not insanity.
/r/MensRights04/08/11 08:58 PM
2

the political left is owned by radical feminists I reconcile my liberal politics with this the same way a conservative would reconcile his with the christian orthodox wing of his party. If I had a party to vote for that had my views AND didn't have that stuff, I'd be thrilled.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 05:42 AM
1

I mean about the astroturfing
/r/MensRights02/08/11 05:55 AM
0

Well... this was an uplifting visit to MR. What a karma slaughter that thread is... enough to convince you the world is against you.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 05:01 AM
2

That's really sad, and probably true...
/r/MensRights02/08/11 04:42 AM
4

Amazing. In her own words, she said 'it was only a joke', which implies intent. Then she gets off the hook because it's an 'accident'.
/r/MensRights01/08/11 02:56 AM
2

I would ask why you left your book and tea club without putting on your crybaby diapers.
/r/MensRights30/07/11 12:07 AM
2

That whole conversation was surprisingly positive, considering the title of this submission.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 07:12 AM
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It means the prosecution was not able to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 01:18 AM
2

ALL OPINIONS BUT MINE REQUIRE CITATION
/r/MensRights29/07/11 01:14 AM
3

Male sexuality, anyway
/r/MensRights29/07/11 01:10 AM
1

This post will in no way delay or prevent the next .self post asking why we're women haters.
/r/MensRights28/07/11 05:00 PM
4

No one looks for things to prove themselves wrong.
/r/MensRights28/07/11 05:59 AM
1

Batman involves his children in his life by dressing them in leotards and tights (and cute little vests) and making the rounds in bad neighborhoods.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 11:59 PM
2

The original batman carried a gun.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 11:57 PM
2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preponderance_of_evidence#Preponderance_of_the_evidence
/r/MensRights27/07/11 11:46 PM
16

Using the insurance model for health care turned out to be such a great idea.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 08:03 PM
1

Are you suggesting that concern trolls are a problem?
/r/MensRights27/07/11 04:44 AM
1

Would it have killed you to use the search function for the last time someone like you came to condemn the subreddit as sexist and ask it to justify it's existence? It happens once a week, at the very least.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 04:28 AM
1

Glad you had fun picking fights and discrediting your cause.
/r/MensRights26/07/11 07:45 AM
1

Do you know what irony is?
/r/MensRights26/07/11 07:44 AM
1

And it's funny how you're trying to goad me by telling me you didn't read what I wrote. As if you ever did.
/r/MensRights26/07/11 02:31 AM
1

Here's the relevant part. I started calling you names after you put words into my mouth, deliberately distorted what I said and completely ignored what arguments I made in favor of repeating the things I was replying to. I've never spoken to anyone as willfully ignorant as you. You earned every name I called you.
/r/MensRights26/07/11 02:29 AM
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I'm completely fucking dumbfounded. You must have some rudimentary understanding of language and grammar or else you wouldn't be able to put sentences together. But if you're able to write, how are you not able to read? Maybe you're just jealous because we accomplished something that you weren't a contributing factor of. All you've done is argue against the words you've put in my mouth yourself. Are my words even going through the internet? Is an administrator having some fun with me and changin…
/r/MensRights26/07/11 02:05 AM
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Unrelated to the topic at hand... Do you realize that FGM is unrelated to the topic at hand? This "we're bigger victims" argument has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. And statistics aren't an argument. They're something you use to support an argument, or what you call a "meta-argument" as if taking a broader perspective is something to deride. Here's the broader perspective: it's wrong both ways. You can cherry-pick the types all you'd like, but FGM in any form is banned and condemned…
/r/MensRights26/07/11 01:20 AM
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Working for men's rights is what I've been punctuating by calling you an idiot. I continue to do so because you're choosing to ignore the substance and bitch about anything else you can. I don't do that to people I respect, and you've earned that disrespect.
/r/MensRights25/07/11 10:51 PM
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This is what I was talking about when I said you were ignoring the points I was making in favor of copypasta. I repeat myself: Even if women had it worse than men, would that make male genital mutilation okay? I could go back and forth with you, posting "proof" of our opinions. I could post one that discredits your 'circumcision prevents std's', or I just just say that the existence of condoms makes the difference moot. Doesn't sewing up baby vaginae also reduce stds? Seems like a red herring wh…
/r/MensRights25/07/11 10:47 PM
1

Wow. Calling me a feminist troll. You're a fucking idiot.
/r/MensRights25/07/11 10:34 PM
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Repeating bad puns is easier than having an honest conversation. Less headaches, right? Just for the sake of making you feel foolish, what does I dispose of you disposable human. actually mean? (Also: you missed a comma)
/r/MensRights25/07/11 09:37 PM
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How slanted. Usefully you omit the vast majority of the negative consequences men have physically, and completely discount the possibility that they might, as well, have psychological problems. (Oh, and you completely ignored all of the things I said, which is extremely disrespectful and concedes the points I was trying to make) Care to have a conversation that doesn't consist of me saying things and you thoughtlessly copy/pasting things?
/r/MensRights25/07/11 09:30 PM
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If you could read, we would have had a much more enlightened conversation, troll. (See how little that word means now?) The key point is that I understand your argument, and you've refused to even realize I'm making one. And honestly, calling me a troll? Do you know how long I've been in this subreddit arguing for equal treatment of men in culture and law? Of course you don't. You don't read.
/r/MensRights25/07/11 09:28 PM
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Right. Key in your comment is the percentage. You've allowed for different kinds of FGM and used a 1/10 example to show how horrible it is. Do you allow for different kinds of MGM? There are extreme variations of that as well. What is it called on your feminists boards when you try to compete for how terrible your gender has it? Productive to the conversation? (Do I win by bringing up how common MGM is compared to FGM?) Allowing for IF females actually did have it worse than men, would it make M…
/r/MensRights25/07/11 09:11 PM
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Obviously, our success at getting Osbourne off The Talk offends you. I get it...you were on Sharon's side when she was mocking the pain and suffering of a mutilated man and probably thought it was harmless joking. You wouldn't have thought the same had it been a bunch of men laughing and joking about a female rape victim or female genital mutilation. If such a thing were to happen those men would have been fired immediately and rightfully so. Yet when it's your fellow women who do the same, you …
/r/MensRights25/07/11 08:56 PM
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but it's pretty clearly nowhere close to being as severe as female circumcision You've been misinformed
/r/MensRights25/07/11 08:13 PM
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Willfully stupid. Way to fight your battles.
/r/MensRights25/07/11 08:02 PM
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"What we did wasn't a witch hunt!" "A witch hunt would be [female example of what 'we' did, just for a more trivial 'offense']!" "See!? When they do it, they're successful, but when we do it, it takes much more effort! We should be able to do the same thing!" (Just so the intent doesn't sail past you like every point I've made thus far, I'm lampooning what you said because you made the argument this wasn't a witch hunt, then seemed to complain about how your witch hunts don't go as well as the f…
/r/MensRights25/07/11 07:59 PM
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Good job. Pithy cliches as a response to concerned perspective. These colors don't run. Yes I can certainly see how holding one responsible for their actions ca Have you always been so willfully ignorant and dishonest about re-framing the topic you're talking about? Do you honestly not see the distinction between "responsiblity for one's actions" and "turning into a media watchdog, knee jerk witch hunt"? Please tell me, is it dishonesty or stupidity that inspires your belligerent double-talk?
/r/MensRights25/07/11 06:40 PM
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No, I think you're a dummy who can't read.
/r/MensRights25/07/11 06:33 PM
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I just called the jerk store. They said they had just run out of you.
/r/MensRights25/07/11 06:50 AM
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We either have to be able to make fun of women's pain and suffering without repercussion as well This is my position. To follow through with the rest of your thought is despicable for either side to do. I would be a hypocrite to condemn the other side for something my side does, without condemning my side. To answer your other reply, we're fighting a war of public opinion. The only way to win is to make it clear we're the ones fighting clean. That's how MLK won. If we're right, we don't have to …
/r/MensRights25/07/11 06:49 AM
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If you have to ask that, you didn't read what I wrote.
/r/MensRights25/07/11 12:54 AM
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So you're entitled to me writing out another three page position paper specifically for you because you're too lazy to read the one I put on this very discussion page? Or find the other half dozen I've written to people equally antagonistic and dense as yourself. Or are you playing dumb, because to acknowledge what I've already said would take the wind out of your sails? Blowhard.
/r/MensRights25/07/11 12:41 AM
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Morally the same. You'll both do the same fucked up things to push your agenda, oblivious and ambivalent to the consequences.
/r/MensRights24/07/11 11:23 PM
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Self-interested at the cost of equality and society as a whole. My point was that the feminists have these reactionary lynch mobs, I never thought I'd see one come from MR... but I just did. You're the same now.
/r/MensRights24/07/11 07:58 PM
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I was the one who was originally saying that Sharon Osbourne should be made to understand what she did was wrong, rather than simply leave the show. Your flock is running away from you. I was responding to the witch hunt, not your post. Silencing and getting them thrown out of their jobs was the exact goal I was reading over and over. I got yelled at pretty good by people with some surprisingly stupid and repetitious arguments for calling out this extortion angle. None-the-less, it is clear that…
/r/MensRights24/07/11 07:44 PM
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I'll be glad to be rid of you self interested types. If it's female superiority to punish someone whenever they speak badly of women... ...do you follow my point? I'm going to try out one of the egalitarian subreddits coopted by the feminists. The only reason I didn't before was that you guys were supposedly 'better' than them. You just use the same underhanded tactics for a different reason.
/r/MensRights24/07/11 07:19 PM
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Yes. This. Engage in discussion. This is what we should be doing.
/r/MensRights23/07/11 09:12 PM
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Great. Now we're a lynch mob that harasses people instead of an advocacy group that tries to change people's minds. We're measuring success not by how we can lower the demand for misandric entertainment, but how effectively we can deprive people of it. We just did (if you accept credit) the exact same thing feminists do when someone in the media upsets them. Silence them. Go after their jobs. And for what? Misdirected anger. I'm ashamed I was ever a part of this place.
/r/MensRights23/07/11 09:11 PM
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And yet a large portion of the subreddit emulates it anyway.
/r/MensRights23/07/11 04:49 AM
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It's the teenage girl with the period and space bar again. I've acknowledged that fact in my own arguments, guy who argues by repeating himself and not considering the other person's side. In fact, I've made the argument that it's an underhanded attack and the fact that it would work so well to get them off the air was one of my points! Oh shit, I forgot I said I wouldn't reply unless you actually had something to say to one of my arguments. You just proved you never read them in the first place…
/r/MensRights22/07/11 10:41 PM
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I feel a kind of mix between feeling ill and laughing at the distances someone will chase a premise, having been spanked by a better argument. Keep repeating your affirmative statements. You don't need to support your arguments like I have. Just repeat yourself. You can outlast any opponent if you don't have to put thought into your replies or take the care to respond to them directly. I don't even feel like you deserve another reply. Why should I go line by line explaining to you where your rea…
/r/MensRights22/07/11 08:12 PM
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Every single comment you've left in the other thread has been ripe with a personal insult for no apparent reason, suggesting that your argument is too weak to rely on anything else. They aren't needed. Self serving idiot. You've ignored every point I've made and simply repeated yourself ad nauseum. I joyfully insult anyone who argues dishonestly and without hearing the other side. By the end, I learned you weren't deserving of respect. Better yourself or stop bitching about it.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 07:53 PM
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You act as if we can't react for being offended. False dichotomy. By saying you shouldn't react in a particular way, you've taken it to mean you can't react at all. Such a willful mis-characterization. I have to say, between this and our other conversation, I have absolutely no respect for your ability to carry out a reasonable conversation, argument or debate.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 04:10 AM
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How can you quote what I said without having read it? It amazes me. ... Let's talk about extortion. I guess this has devolved into me having to explain to you the meaning of words in the english language, since you're playing a semantics game based on the first sentence of wikipedia. If you had taken the time to understand a concept instead of just trying to find a way to discredit someone, you'd have realized that the first paragraph was dealing with the legal definition of the word extortion (…
/r/MensRights22/07/11 04:05 AM
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Its ok for consumers to express themselves. Again, you're not the consumer. The consumers were eating that shit up. That's the problem your efforts should be directed towards. A show should reflect the values of a product. Incredible naivety towards how advertising works. Products don't give a shit about the shows they advertise on. That's why these boycotts actually work. The only thing they care about is product exposure. Does the show have an audience? Is that audience demographically incline…
/r/MensRights21/07/11 09:25 PM
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the same shit programming will continue. Good. People shouldn't be able to bitch shows they don't watch off the air at the cost of the people who like the show. That's what shitty groups like feminists and all the others do. Does that make you more sensitive to the issues of feminism? No, it pisses you off because a bunch of self-important wet towels butted in and decided they knew better for everyone else. It galvanizes uninterested people against them, and rightfully so. That's your self inter…
/r/MensRights21/07/11 08:39 PM
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You began repeating yourself, justifying extortion under the guise of activism. Go behind people's backs and make your arguments to disinterested money men. You're a fucking coward. I say that because you're ambivalent or ignorant of how this will only fail or fly back in your face.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 07:45 PM
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These are the only effective tactics. Lazy. Stupid.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 07:24 PM
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When someone disagrees with something I didn't say, yes... this hypothetical person who is you is stupid.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 07:22 PM
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woosh
/r/MensRights21/07/11 06:29 AM
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I invite you to challenge it. This is what someone says when trying to start an argument. Which was what I was originally giving you shit for. I take the liberty to give you shit because you were already surprised by the reasonable response. Yes, I lead you to a subject that I'd requested be considered. What you call antagonistic I call challenging My point went completely over your head. I wasn't giving you shit for what you did. I gave you shit for the way you did it. Then I gave you a specifi…
/r/MensRights21/07/11 05:20 AM
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Do you think it's appropriate to invent malicious charges and rhetorically condemn thousands of people you've never met with them? Of course not. The first half of the sentence is set up in a way that naturally leads someone to disagree with the statement. The second half takes great liberty of interpretation that may not necessarily be agreed with, but is taken as a given by the one asking the question. In short, go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 04:33 AM
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Oh, fuck them. The political buzzword of 2007 was "man up".
/r/MensRights21/07/11 04:30 AM
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Well you sound like a delightful dinner date, filled with your leading, antagonistic questions and hostile attitude. I don't see anything earnest about you.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 04:17 AM
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So do you think we should encourage someone to sponsor a show based on kicking blacks in the balls and call it "Kick Darky" Do you see how phony you're being? We're not talking about the 'sexual mutilation and torture show'. There's no such thing. (And by the way, I think it's funny that you had to add in the racial element, because a show that consists of nothing but nutshots would be hilarious and wildly successful and you know it.) That would be like saying the Don Imus show was specifically …
/r/MensRights21/07/11 03:54 AM
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I've heard her on several interviews where she was sweet, articulate and polite. You're making the mistake of generalizing the entirety of a person based on one or two things. Fuck her for what she said, not just 'fuck her'.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 02:08 AM
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What interaction or impression did you have with Sharon Osbourne before this, that you had such a strong impression?
/r/MensRights20/07/11 11:33 PM
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I don't see a problem with limiting people's ability to express themselves as long as it's only limited by what I find offensive. You're one of the half a dozen sober voices on this subreddit. The fact that even you lack the perspective to see what harm this does to the movement and the world at large is a sign the movement is doomed to failure. You can't even learn from your enemies' mistakes after calling them out for them. I've misjudged you.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 10:51 PM
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This is a very moderate position That's the second time you've misused the word 'moderate'. It implies that the action you're taking is between two extremes. What more can you do beyond attacking the funding of an entire media network and calling for the firings of people involved? It's the definition of an extreme response. No, you don't want to make it technically, strictly illegal in a court of law to offend you. That's very generous of you, considering how that runs counter to constitutional…
/r/MensRights20/07/11 08:18 PM
1

You can't fear someone you pity.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 08:09 PM
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"I don't think its okay to joke about..." You've lost every ounce of respect. I feel like your post makes my point. You can't have it both ways.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 08:01 PM
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That is moderate. I'm talking about people petitioning and threatening advertisers with boycotts as well as trying to start campaigns to get people fired. People and opinions that can be/are offensive or controversial shouldn't be shielded from us in media. Dumb special interest shitstorms like this only serve to castrate our culture. No one with a job in talk tv or radio will be allowed to speak comfortably and without worrying about how it might be possible to offend one of the infinite niche …
/r/MensRights20/07/11 07:40 PM
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I'm in that club. What's funny is that the only activity I've had here in the last couple of weeks has been to argue against the tide of people calling for extreme measures with The Voice incident. They banned a moderate. I bet they have more people not allowed to post there than have ever posted.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 07:14 PM
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You're no better than the feminists. You're going to make the world a worse place because that's a better option than not having your way. It's not about turning the other cheek, it's about not cutting your nose to spite your face. I better not see another post from you complaining about the destructive, immoral tactics feminists use to push their agenda. If you breathe a word of complaint about the results of those tactics, expect a downvote and an argument. Because you're the exact same fuckin…
/r/MensRights20/07/11 06:18 PM
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"I don't think it would be okay to laugh at..." You are an unfunny person and shouldn't be allowed to make the rules for funny people.
/r/MensRights20/07/11 02:41 AM
1

An idiot drops into a conversation simply to tell someone else they're wrong... and can't articulate a single reason why. (I just described what you did)
/r/MensRights19/07/11 11:40 PM
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You're suggesting that the best way to change this isn't to argue the point... it's to bully and punish people who think otherwise. Embittering conscious adults who find they're not allowed to watch their favorite show because some interest group made a stink about it. All you'd do is add Men's Rights to the mob shouting "it's okay to be offensive, just not to me!". You're making yourself a politically correct hen, who combined with everyone like you, ruins everything for everyone. Adults living…
/r/MensRights19/07/11 11:38 PM
2

"If this happened... you would do this! You suck!"
/r/MensRights19/07/11 10:33 PM
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When you try to punish someone on a talk show for saying whatever comes to mind... we prevent ourselves from having media where people feel safe to talk honestly. None of us watch that shitty 'View' ripoff. The only reason we're offended is because we heard it third-hand. Feel free to complain about it and make it a rallying point for your issues... but demanding people get fired? Suggesting people go after their advertisers? You're resorting to extortion and bully tactics for what you should be…
/r/MensRights19/07/11 10:22 PM
1

I think it all just boils down to how tasteful you think humor ought to be, and how sensitive we ought to be to the people who the jokes are about. Not at all. I'm fucking disgusted with this subreddit right now. Rail against Sharon Osbourne saying with absolute sincerity that 'it's not the same [when it happens to a man]' but acting like butthurt little sissies over jokes?? Just another hypocritical special interest group that wants special rules for themselves. Disgusting.
/r/MensRights19/07/11 10:12 PM
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First, let me express to you how little I respect someone who pawns their thoughts off on links instead of speaking their mind in their own words. I did not click on your links: asking me to spend fifteen minutes reading something so you can save five minutes making a point is a revelation of character. I would love to get dragged into a point-for-point comparison of our gender's relative 'oppression'. Nothing would prove my point better. Forgive my cynicism, but I've had this conversation at le…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 11:10 PM
0

A: don't understand that a transwoman is a woman This is the reason I don't like you. The implication that someone who disagrees with the statement "a man who has undergone gender reassignment surgery is a woman" could do so only from a lack of understanding of the topic or moral ignorance is arrogant and dogmatic. "If someone disagrees with me, they're stupid or a bigot" This is not an intelligent or an adult argument to make. Especially to a disagreement on definitions. Your definition of 'wom…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:45 PM
1

My only interaction with trans people is from these polite conversations you've mentioned. While I have nothing against them on principle, I have genuinely disliked every individual I've ever met. What they feel like they're owed and the way they've presented themselves was disgusting.
/r/MensRights18/07/11 10:28 PM
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That person sickens me. ALMOST reasonable. Acknowledges a specific, systemic legal way men are oppressed... then says women have it worse. Then she says that it's not about saying who has it worse, and that she won't give one reason. They're oppressed because they sometimes deal with cat calls. We're oppressed because if we feel offended by cat calls or groping, we're publicly shamed as gay. They're oppressed because rape happens to women overseas. They know because of the dozens of internationa…
/r/MensRights18/07/11 09:55 PM
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The people you're talking about wouldn't be convinced by anything. It doesn't matter if the other side's conduct and rhetoric is bad unless your audience is specifically that other side. We're not just talking to that other side. Speaking reasonably about your issues is the only way for reasonable, otherwise disinterested people to listen to them. It's these reasonable, more moderate people you're going to rely on to spread the word further and make the cultural changes you'd like to see.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 02:43 AM
0

Cuckolding and paternity fraud aren't the same thing. Cuckolding is a fetish where a man has another man have sex with his wife while he watches. For fun googling, look up related terms such as "prepping the bull" and "cream pie". Enjoy that knowledge as I have.
/r/MensRights15/07/11 12:10 AM
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What about a mission statement that doesn't explicitly mention feminism at all?
/r/MensRights15/07/11 12:05 AM
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You're not talking to 'society' though. This subreddit is kind of an ongoing argument about the subject of men's rights between a bunch of people who don't make the rules in society. A significant portion of this audience self-identifies as feminist or hold a favorable views of feminism. None of them have the same definition of the word 'feminist' as you do, and you're immediately turning them off to your overall cause when you blame a fucked up situation on feminism. What happens is a brand new…
/r/MensRights14/07/11 11:48 PM
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A trend I've noticed lately is that this subreddit has started using the word 'feminism' where it used to use 'misandry'. The difference makes it read deliberately confrontational.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 07:16 PM
3

As a literary device, rape has a steep climb back into relevance.
/r/MensRights06/07/11 09:43 AM
2

Not by anyone of substance.
/r/MensRights26/06/11 06:16 PM
5

Can it be said that in light of the last 50 years of it's history, making a Jewish state was a fucking disaster for the exact reasons people are objecting to a white-only state?
/r/MensRights26/06/11 05:42 PM
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Those who are saying 'projection'... you're right. But it's perfectly reasonable projection. People flake.
/r/MensRights26/06/11 05:30 PM
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and me for debunking the "Rule of Thumb" nonsense Could you elaborate, please?
/r/MensRights26/06/11 05:23 PM
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...Oops, sorry.
/r/MensRights26/06/11 07:13 AM
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Stay classy, guy who wants to make sure children never get the choice to live life as a fully intact human being. Keep compensating by trying to push body shame onto others. I bet this is what your problem has been from the beginning. You don't want to feel like something was taken away from you, that you're not normal. Well fuck it, if you're going to take it there, I'll kindly oblige. Your scarred, mutilated and deformed penis is disgusting. I'm glad the opposite sex enjoys your cosmetically a…
/r/MensRights25/06/11 07:22 PM
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taking the choice away from people Like the choice on whether or not a child wants to live with an intact body? Exactly why is a foreskin such an immediate medical crisis that the procedure can't be left until the child comes of age? You're disgusting, projecting your ignorance of the subject onto people with a shred of humanity. What arrogance to suggest that a group of people who've taken the topic to heart and become activists on it don't educate themselves at all. And to do that after displa…
/r/MensRights25/06/11 07:17 PM
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First, I was not the one who turned this into a mudslinging match. The internet is good at catching liars. Wow, you sure are concerned about other people's bodies and what they (and their parents) choose to do with them. You must be a republican? You even admit as much yourself. Damn, you dodged that troll pretty well, congrats. I hope you slip in a puddle of AIDS and die.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 07:04 PM
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Just like it's not my business if parents want to close-fist punch their children for discipline. Or use a knife on their genitals.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 07:03 PM
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I can do rational and I can do mud slinging. Depends on the audience. And I'm really going to take my strategic cues from someone who wants to silence the debate, or have it only on his terms using his rhetoric. Craven idiot.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 07:34 AM
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Really. Taking a knife to baby's genitals before they have the ability to say no. I'm the one with no argument. You're pretty fucking delusional, baby cutter.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 07:03 AM
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Have fun sucking blood from baby dicks, savage.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 07:01 AM
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Oh yeah, you really "got" me. Female genital cutting = mutilation, but doing it to a boy is a heartwarming family bonding experience. Go live in a jungle, savage.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 06:46 AM
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Because it's an innitialism. FGM:Girls::MGM:Boys.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 06:13 AM
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Downvoted for sexist double standard.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 06:12 AM
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I'm against unnecessary and consent-less surgery being performed on infants. I must be a radical Nazi. Fuck you.
/r/MensRights25/06/11 06:09 AM
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But... the NAZI party was a nationalist movement. Male genital cutting is as much mutilation as female genital cutting is. Why are you so intent on defending this barbarism?
/r/MensRights25/06/11 06:06 AM
3

What year?
/r/MensRights25/06/11 06:02 AM
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And you totally don't come off as a whiny bitch. FYI, the actual bullies in this equation are the people mutilating defenseless children. That's the debate you're trying to stifle and scorn.
/r/MensRights24/06/11 07:01 PM
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Waah, my meaningless number goes down when I accuse people of bullying.
/r/MensRights24/06/11 06:52 PM
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Stop debasing the debate by painting people who disagree with you as bullies.
/r/MensRights24/06/11 06:43 PM
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Pics or it didn't happen.
/r/MensRights24/06/11 12:15 PM
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I think you're playing off of a comment someone else made 3 hours before yours that was more realistic and equally irrelevant.
/r/MensRights24/06/11 12:08 PM
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I think this is the best thing I've ever read on your site.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 11:11 PM
1

What is happening when you see a post with a deleted name? Is the account deleted?
/r/MensRights23/06/11 10:58 PM
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No, none of it does. If it did it would effect both genders equally, wouldn't it?
/r/MensRights23/06/11 10:48 PM
1

Again, you and your childish notions of 'winning' and 'losing' internet arguments.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 08:57 PM
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Scumbag world: Rape against women is bad! Men can't be raped at all! -story about boys getting raped We should be against all rape!
/r/MensRights23/06/11 08:16 PM
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Idiot. The words of the post I just made. The words of the article you're so smugly pretending to know the content of. Go on and conveniently omit the actual reason I became upset. 'Win' with dishonesty. Go on.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 08:03 PM
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Troll. Read the words.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 07:57 PM
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Reread the edit, stupid.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 07:51 PM
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It's amazing how fucking stupid you make yourself out to be telling me I was proved wrong when the conversation turned away from the actual point I was trying to make. You're one of those brats who genuinely think the internet is somewhere you win or lose. I'm sure that's why you jump into conversations that are already over to try and score points with the peanut gallery. You're a presumptuous (and at the risk of repeating myself, stupid) asshole to think either one of us was proved 'right' or …
/r/MensRights23/06/11 07:39 PM
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Bullshit. I had a very specific and directed problem with the douche. You're a more nuanced stain on humanity. You're swooping in long after the fact simply to engage in a game of moral superiority. It's a similar douche move, but even less productive than Tweedledee above. The funny thing is, illiterate fuck, the link I posted actually did support the claims I made. Looking back, I realize I just forgot to add a second link that showed the flipped income gap, thinking the first did both. Did yo…
/r/MensRights23/06/11 11:21 AM
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Your first sentence should be separated by a semicolon. Also: get a life.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 11:04 AM
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I'm going to ask what you're trying to accomplish.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 10:41 AM
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Fuck off, troll
/r/MensRights23/06/11 10:34 AM
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I guess I'll have to settle for that in leu of equal rights.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 06:52 AM
1

In theory, racism is a hatred for that particular race. I break it down to myself as: you can be racial without being racist.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 03:36 AM
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I find your paternalistic, smug attitude in this anonymous online forum totally unwarranted and infuriating. No, I feel like you got off easy having to deal only with text. With the patent disrespect you showed, I would feel completely justified socking you in the mouth. How dare you.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 02:55 AM
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I'm referring to your arrogance in saying 'shame on you'. Who. The. Fuck. Do. You. Think. You. Are? Piece of shit. I don't the words to describe how much of a scumbag you are. In truth, I accidentally linked the wrong article. The one I intended specifically excluded all cases except individuals unmarried between the ages of 18 and 29. It also showed statistics on management roles between men and women. It was an honest mistake you jumped down my throat for. Shame on you, faux elitist smug slime…
/r/MensRights23/06/11 02:41 AM
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Shame on you. Who the fuck do you think you are?
/r/MensRights23/06/11 02:22 AM
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Racial humor != racism. That misconception makes me really sad.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 02:21 AM
3

We all miss ancient Rome :/
/r/MensRights23/06/11 02:06 AM
1

I just don't see the difference between people having sex on a public beach and people having sex on a public bus. Where the law is concerned anyway...
/r/MensRights23/06/11 01:57 AM
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I just don't see the difference between people having sex on a public beach and people having sex on a public bus. Where the law is concerned anyway...
/r/MensRights23/06/11 01:57 AM
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Because it's in public?
/r/MensRights23/06/11 01:44 AM
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It's a sad day when reddit forgets about Chappelle show.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 01:42 AM
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Sex is the act of reproduction, which women are given the privilege of ignoring. Equality would be either would-be parent having the ability to abort. It's very important for feminists to know that financial abortion is a compromise. One I'm not thrilled with.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 01:33 AM
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I figure it's implied if you're replying to someone.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 01:29 AM
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I dare you to find someone who cares.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 12:48 AM
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I'm not sure. What does that mean?
/r/MensRights23/06/11 12:46 AM
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I missed that, actually. I'm still disappointed you're alive though. At least banana guy was being a sarcastic douche trying to argue against mutilating babies.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 12:23 AM
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My reproduction is not my choice. If someone accidentally or maliciously becomes pregnant with my sperm, I have no choice to reproduce or not. It's entirely in their hands.
/r/MensRights23/06/11 12:16 AM
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Ass. I read the article. I was trying to have an opinion. Can I have an opinion?
/r/MensRights23/06/11 12:13 AM
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It creeps me out a little when people refer to each other as their usernames. The point I would like to add is that she was talking as if violence against women were rampant and socially accepted. That THIS generation was going to be the one that really went against it. wtf?
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:50 PM
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I wasn't strictly talking about what the author thinks. I was saying what I thought. I honestly don't care what she thinks.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:46 PM
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I disagree. I don't want another person to have absolute power over my reproduction.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:43 PM
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Quotations because it's silly to think a man could be sexually harassed.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:38 PM
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I think it's RES that adds a 'save' button at the bottom of posts you'd like to come back to. I thought you made (and referenced) a lot of good points I'd like to do the same to. I was kind of half complimenting you, half fishing for an understanding of what I was doing with the button.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:28 PM
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But... why? Do you wish that of all police officers?
/r/MensRights22/06/11 10:22 PM
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Sounds like it's just a high conflict relationship that won't be lasting much longer anyway.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 10:20 PM
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As per your request, I'm the second person to downvote you. I downvoted you because you bitched about a single person downvoting you. Regarding your point, I think the reason sexual harassment isn't seen as a problem for men is... circular. No one thinks women cat-calling or groping men is a problem. When someone has a problem with it, they're usually publicly shamed. The interpretation being that if they're made uncomfortable by it, they're gay. edit: I ended up not downvoting you. Meh.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 10:14 PM
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Posts like this make me wonder what happens when I click "save" at the bottom.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 10:08 PM
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No, I mean I should have the same right to reproduce or not reproduce that a woman does. I meant exactly what I said. That's what it would take for there to be actual equality. The right to an abortion, I feel, was won by dishonest and litigious means. You wanted reproductive rights. The reason you have them isn't because you have a right to determine your reproduction, but in respect to your right to bodily integrity. This right was balanced against the right of the child to live. I look forwar…
/r/MensRights22/06/11 10:01 PM
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The best I had to say was "everyone in the thread is being downvoted". I don't like you because you ignore what people actually say and attribute the easiest thing possible for you to disprove or ridicule. Example: When I say I don't like you because of your dishonest, feckless style of argument... you claim I don't like you because you're mean. In truth, I like how mean you are. It makes you seem more foolish.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 09:47 PM
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You take for granted that there are any.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 09:44 PM
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...I gave you the additional information. "AND" was a hypertext link. Smells like context to me.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 09:38 PM
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I know exactly what it means and I used it as I intended to. Perhaps you should read more. You might be able to debate without blindly parroting the words of your superiors.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 09:36 PM
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turned the clock back This is a loaded bit of rhetoric that I hadn't considered until now. Notice how it emotionally conjures up the idea of taking away women's rights?
/r/MensRights22/06/11 09:19 PM
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Well I personally downvoted you because you argue in a feckless manner, after which you go drooling retard. As a product, I just dislike you. I dislike you even more now that you've cried about a single downvote. Pansy. That said, everyone is getting downvoted in this thread.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 09:15 PM
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Both rape and false rape accusations are extremely rare. No one can say with certainty which is more common though. Both are a blight.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 09:11 PM
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Are they? They're outnumbering men in management positions AND earning more than men, controlling for marital status and age.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 09:07 PM
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Grow up. Pass that along to stk1 as well.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 08:57 PM
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It's pretty clear he's speculating. You don't have to cite your own opinion.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 08:55 PM
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Maybe in the morning I'll be able to flesh it out into something more digestible, but it should be comprehensible with another read through. The question mark at the end of your statement is very meta-humorous. My overall point is that gender issues in the west have been a one way street for twice as long as I've been alive. It's insulting to suggest that at this point, sacrifices should be made equally on both sides.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 12:16 PM
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"feewings." I genuinely hope you're dead at the time I'm writing this, and these are your last words. Let douchey sarcasm be your legacy.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 12:09 PM
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And no one should be required to sign up for the draft, but I'd rather have irrational equality than irrational inequality. I say we should have highly publicized marches calling for all women to end infanticide. Because women are the ones that do it, after all.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 12:00 PM
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Anyone who raises the flag of feminism is my enemy. Having accomplished all of their reasonable goals decades ago, they do nothing but harm now.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:55 AM
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Common law marriages would go right out the window after college roommates sue each other for alimony.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:52 AM
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I agree with your bullet points. I should have stopped reading there... we can move towards equality without taking things away from each other. In order to reach equality, these are the things we need to take away from women: Default custody of children in divorce. Title 9, along with all 'quota' type legislation and incentives in all facets of life (A great deal of) Government funding for women-only social programs, diverting them in an equitable way. The monopoly over reproductive rights (You…
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:30 AM
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I agree totally. It's your turn to change and be demonized for the next 40 years.
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:22 AM
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The premier sanctimonious mangina female supremacist wat
/r/MensRights22/06/11 11:17 AM
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Cue the torrent of self-assured circular logic.
/r/MensRights21/06/11 08:19 PM
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You're taking your entire point of view from the news articles. You're of the opinion that the man is guilty of child abuse. The people who do know the details to the story i.e. the jury, found him not guilty. Why are you pushing the idea that there's more to the story, completely slanting that statement to the opinion you took from the headlines? Don't type in bold like you're talking to idiots, idiot.
/r/MensRights20/06/11 10:37 PM
2

So you're asking for people to give an emotional reason they're MRs rather than just press the issues? No.
/r/MensRights20/06/11 10:27 PM
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An off beat humor store would get firebombed for having the opposite shirts as well.
/r/MensRights20/06/11 08:46 PM
2

Penises look more like flowers than vaginae. Flowers have stems. (Doctors cut the petals off)
/r/MensRights20/06/11 08:34 PM
10

Use words
/r/MensRights19/06/11 08:46 PM
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Only on the internet though. In the world under the sky, we're halfway between 1 and 2.
/r/MensRights19/06/11 08:40 PM
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Reddit Enhancement Suite. It just has a button.
/r/MensRights18/06/11 11:17 PM
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You've been around reddit long enough that you should know what the tone of comment sections in each sub are like. You wouldn't throw out one-liners in /truereddit, would you?
/r/MensRights18/06/11 10:23 PM
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So the guy who set himself on fire had been driven a little crazy? I refuse to believe this.
/r/MensRights18/06/11 09:38 PM
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up until recently women got the shit kicked out of them on a regular basis. I love how the internet allows people to just say stupid shit and walk away.
/r/MensRights18/06/11 09:23 PM
1

You're not going to punish a police officer a thousand miles away by breaking windows at your local 7-11.
/r/MensRights18/06/11 01:07 AM
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Now you're talking past me. I show, with a department of labor study, that women have a distinct and measurable advantage that is independent of their lifestyle choices... you say we need more work fixing the disadvantages they take on themselves by choosing to not prioritize their careers above all other things. You are arguing for increasing privilege at the cost of discriminating against others. I'm satisfied but disappointed with my answer, thank you. Please don't vote.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 09:34 PM
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In this case, I'm sure the feminist is using the word 'sex' in only it's most literal sense. Keep a close eye on her. The moment she makes the claim, safe and surrounded by her agreeing peers, that sex is used as a means of oppression against women... fuck her. They don't just want to control the definitions of words, they want to do so dynamically with whatever situation they're in at that moment.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 09:24 PM
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I don't grant you that one thing. You're using the word 'oppression' not 'inconvenience'. You cannot be oppressed by your own decisions. Not when you're educated to the effects your decision will have, not when you aren't coerced into making the decision in the first place. This is the attitude that causes the reaction that is interpreted as misogyny. It seems you don't want to be held responsible for your actions, as a movement, as a gender. I don't bring up mens disadvantages because I want to…
/r/MensRights17/06/11 09:21 PM
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Don't reply "citation" to someone's opinion, fucko. There's very few things more disrespectful.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 08:59 PM
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that or they don't want to risk the rape charge FTFM
/r/MensRights17/06/11 08:48 PM
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You know what? I like civil obedience when it comes to not destroying other citizen's property. People trying to make a living for themselves don't need their store's inventory stolen and their windows smashed because you decided to go wilding.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 08:46 PM
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So... women are oppressed because the choices they make might have consequences? I'll match my experiences with yours. When I worked for a staffing company, a daily task would be to search through stacks of applications to sift out unqualified candidates. Things that would disqualify you: being black. Being over the age of 35. Being a male. I quit in disgust before too long. I'm not going to say women aren't discriminated against in the workplace (even though it's tempting to, considering how mu…
/r/MensRights17/06/11 08:42 PM
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So it's not a valid example of oppression. It's based on the assumption that one of the two parents gives up their careers in the first place. Women have the privilege of being afforded the choice of contributing a second income, or staying home to do the rewarding work of raising their child. Doubly inequitable, it's considered the mans duty to provide in either case. You just presented the cultural oppression against men that scorns this freedom as oppression against women. You alluded to othe…
/r/MensRights17/06/11 08:22 PM
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*jaw drops* WOMEN ARE THE ONLY GENDER THAT'S EMPOWERED TO MAKE THAT CHOICE IN THE FIRST PLACE
/r/MensRights17/06/11 08:09 PM
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If you see someone being blatantly misogynist without expanding on their ideas, check the user page. 99% of the time, it's a brand new account or has massive negative karma. False flags seem to work, you've evidenced.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 07:57 PM
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I don't mind the trolls, and I don't mind the people who want to have a reasonable conversation. The thing I can't stand are the ones in between. The ones who won't go as far as to openly troll, but completely discount any opinion you might have (or supporting evidence of) and proceed to inform you, with their first line, you're wrong. And then they preach at you for seven to twelve paragraphs. I feel compelled to respond just because I know others are reading and it's important to at least show…
/r/MensRights17/06/11 07:54 PM
0

I wish I could direct my sisters in 2X to this thread because I think they could really use the information but I fear I'd get downvoted into oblivion and accused of "x-posting to start drama." FFS don't. I just finished dealing with the last 2xc invasion thread where they shout down ideas and preach. I swear to god, you believe you're the chosen people and you speak god's truth with your every opinion. edit: Does the MR movement recognize the parallel oppression that women are faced with as wel…
/r/MensRights17/06/11 07:14 PM
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Your arrogant assertions and complete disrespect for someone elses point of view is the reason I didn't read past your first line. Learn to communicate.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 07:05 PM
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I know you are, but what am I?
/r/MensRights17/06/11 11:43 AM
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Weak troll
/r/MensRights17/06/11 11:20 AM
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It's called an opinion, fucknut.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 08:21 AM
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How is shutting down planned parenthood discrimination against women? Are they actually trying to shut it down, or are they just trying to remove state funding? Why do you feel entitled to government money to facilitate the privilege only women may have? Is getting rid of this not moving towards gender equality? Don't think it slip past me that when asked for a way you're discriminated against, you brought up someone trying to roll back the victories (for unequal privilege in this case) you've a…
/r/MensRights17/06/11 12:35 AM
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There certainly is inequality that's left to address. Why do you think this sub exists? Inequality against women? Surprise me by coming up with something, knowing I'm going to come back at you with discrimination written into law. Where is that emotion coming from though? Indoctrination of popular culture and 'health' classes in school.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 12:01 AM
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That's why I went through the trouble of typing out the words "emotional level". And I, personally, was very much fucked up in this manner. I don't understand what your other questions are asking. My point was that as soon as you try to cure an illness that's not there, you become destructive. This is my description of feminism.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 11:25 PM
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Internal affairs, maybe prosecutors. I doubt it would get to a DA's desk though.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 10:52 PM
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In a perfect world, advocacy groups would dismantle themselves once they achieve their goals. Now that women are protected equally by law, over represented in higher education and management positions in business, and celebrated in our culture in almost an idolatrous way... I think it's time. It's gotten to the point now that you've made one of your main issues, rape, as rare a problem as it's ever going to be. But you wouldn't know it from all of the wake up calls from feminism saying the sky i…
/r/MensRights16/06/11 10:44 PM
1

I have an honest, one word answer. Misanthropy.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 10:04 PM
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I only bring it up as a reason he would hesitate. In that situation, hesitating is the same as allowing it to happen. Now that it's over, it'll be the reason he can sleep at night and the reason he's never held to blame.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 09:54 PM
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Don't already agree with us? WE DON'T WANT TO CONVINCE YOU! Something like that?
/r/MensRights16/06/11 09:49 PM
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I'm not sure why people expect feminism to fight every battle that can be considered a part of equality. Because feminism has stubbornly refused to accept the mens rights movement on the grounds that "feminism is for men too", despite not doing a damn thing but to exacerbate the harm they've done to them.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 09:46 PM
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I've had numerous female friends who I would call feminists, and would call themselves feminists. What you're referring to, I call a 'de facto' feminist. A self identified feminist who is ignorant of what feminism is pushing today, who only describes themselves as such because (by a product of feminism being the defining movement of our culture) to say you're not a feminist is to say you don't want to allow women to vote. These are the reasonable people who just go about living their lives who's…
/r/MensRights16/06/11 09:37 PM
1

Because cops dehumanize people after a while and develop incredibly close bonds to their 'brothers'.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 09:32 PM
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I feel like most of the men around here have this idea that a small fraction of women who try and call themselves feminists are what the movement's all about. 95% of feminists are women (and self destructive men like yourself) who idly call themselves that because they've been socialized to. 4% are devoted to the promotion of women and indifferent to the harm they may cause men and society. 1% are the ones who genuinely hate men and use feminism (and the 95%) as a shield against criticism. Born …
/r/MensRights16/06/11 09:19 PM
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We don't have any eunuchs to be impartial, and as you can see from "a woman never lies about rape" what's good for one movement can send the other gender to hell. There needs to be two opposing movements. Power corrupts.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 08:40 PM
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The game is the acquisition of resources, and you're burying your head in the sand. Quoting me high school microeconomics is about as productive as using populist rhetoric. You've just made the point that because things are bad and not the children's fault, they bear no responsibility to overcome those disadvantages and have no responsibility for their futures. Teaching them they don't have to compete is going to guarantee they don't do better. Yes, poverty is the first among a hundred reasons w…
/r/MensRights16/06/11 08:37 PM
2

Oh boy, are there conversations I could link you to.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 04:24 AM
1

I wasn't trying to contradict you, I was just suggesting a mechanism to explain what you were talking about. Here's a wiki on the experiment I was talking about. I don't think it's useful to think of it in terms of privilege; everyone has more influence over their in-group than someone outside does.
/r/MensRights16/06/11 01:55 AM
1

There's a lot of psychology that goes behind the perceptions of one person saying something and a group of people saying it. I'm not going searching, but it may be common enough knowledge that you'll know what I'm talking about... There was a study, repeated and reaffirmed, that people will defer to the group's consensus even at the cost of ignoring their own senses. If you're asked to say which piece of string, out of three is the longest, you'll most likely lie and doubt your own eyes if the r…
/r/MensRights15/06/11 11:12 PM
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That's a reply by society to the perception of femininity. I'm asking more on the individual level where a comparison could be made against maleness. Eg. Men are violent, boxing is an outlet.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 11:06 PM
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I wouldn't even go as far as to say Anthony Weiner is unsuitable for public office. Beyond his trite behavior on the AMA that dismissed the issues of reasonable adults as childish.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 11:04 PM
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Competition is painful and unhealthy to those that participate in it. I see no value in giving school children the impression they're not competing with every other living being on the planet. 23rd and 21st in science and math. Out of 30 developed countries. They have nothing to learn from how we do things and we're far from straddling the happy medium. It's time to emulate success.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 11:01 PM
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I think 'white knight' has become generalized enough.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 10:52 PM
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When hospitals sell foreskins to cosmetic companies, circumcision is an issue of interstate commerce. Fuck lawyers. They make it impossible to have good laws.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 10:50 PM
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All too routine. This might find a better home in bad_cop_no_doughnut though.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 10:47 PM
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Men also get stoned to death. I'd wager they'd be stoned for being rape victims as well, but they'd just stone you for homosexuality first. The whole lovely culture is a Bob Dylan song.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 10:42 PM
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Interesting and very polarizing examples. I don't know what inferences to make with law school's practices and the prevalence of males going into that field. Asia is genuinely kicking our asses with math and science though. I say the risk of failure is an influence sorely absent from the culture of our children (my mother is a teacher and can attest to the practice of moving horrible, disruptive students to the next grade just to get rid of them). It sure as hell smashed me in the face coming ou…
/r/MensRights15/06/11 10:28 PM
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You're a fool to entrust me with your sanity. It's a complicated, nuanced issue with as many variables confounding it as there are jobs multiplied by lifestyles. The diversity is lost in the 'global aggregate' statistics that are branded about (notably and recently by the White House) I make a point to mention lifestyles, because it's been found that once you correct for them, there is no wage gap (another interesting finding in the same study is that women now outnumber men in management positi…
/r/MensRights15/06/11 10:15 PM
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Two things strike me: Why the 'send the check' quip in the title? Why 'moms.today.com'? ಠ_ಠ Otherwise it seems like a pretty milk toast perspective on how fathers and mothers, in this case, take different roles in parenting. Almost heartwarming.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 09:46 PM
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What's an example of an unhealthy expression of femaleness, and what's the productive outlet it could go to? It's very easy to think in these terms for men, since society has made it very clear what's negative about us, but I don't have the perspective to do the same for women.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 09:38 PM
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it's not like I just made this up, it's a fact regardless of whether this subreddit has heartily disproven this myth time and time again. I'm not impressed with your single point measurement absent any context. I'm not inclined to respect the authority of someone who uses unsupported and debate stifling arguments like "that's just the way it is". You entered a forum where people take this topic very seriously, and you presumed to know more about it than anyone else. What does that make you?
/r/MensRights15/06/11 09:34 PM
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Whenever I see a post here dripping with blatant, genuine (not the kind we're accused of because we're pushing against feminism) misogyny, I always look at the poster's user page. Never have I seen an account that's older than a couple days. Usually they have negative net karma. Gronliz is an agent provocateur.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 09:22 PM
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Exactly. If you look for sexism everywhere you go, you'll find it.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 09:11 PM
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I make the distinction between society and the world because the world will remain unchanged when society leaves. Our perceptions are the only thing that changed. I believe you're guilty of hubris.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 09:02 PM
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Does it matter what newspaper carries an opinion piece?
/r/MensRights15/06/11 08:56 PM
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The point being raised makes me more curious than skeptical. I don't have any expertise.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 08:56 PM
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The world hasn't changed, society has. Even you're painting maleness as a destructive force that has to be 'channeled' into something useful.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 08:36 PM
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Why are people giving you the deference of attention? You've clearly poisoned the well before you came here, and you can't listen to a difference of opinion without branding the word misogynist.
/r/MensRights15/06/11 08:29 PM
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I CAN NEVER FORGIVE YOU
/r/MensRights15/06/11 08:21 PM
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golf clap
/r/MensRights14/06/11 10:12 PM
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I like loud, angry people who can argue coherently and keep their thoughts organized. That's why I was so disappointed with the Anthony Wiener scandal. I like this guy's vitriol.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 10:01 PM
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More than 80 percent of Americans have herpes virus 1, and somewhere between 20 percent to 60 percent of Americans have herpes virus 2 Ugh. The world is a fucking petri dish.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 09:48 PM
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More insulting than the stereotype is the expectation. And the attitude that a woman having sex with a man is affording him a privilege. And the shaming for not being immediately available to any member of the opposite sex for those reasons.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 09:41 PM
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I like how the female lead researcher's interpretation could have just as easily been "Women are less emotionally stable, and will cast blame more easily, while men will let things go without causing conflict" rather than "Women are so much better at communicating. Men just repress things". Fucking pseudoscience. Self reinforcing your personal beliefs with ambiguous survey results. I can't believe I spent good money getting a degree in this shit.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 09:32 PM
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We must conclude that women are possessed of something rare among men. It is called a “brain.” What gets me is that... people will come here... and shame us for being angry.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 09:22 PM
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Before you even talk to a lawyer, run to the bank and empty all your accounts. Leave half if you feel like being fair, but understand it's a race now, and she'll take exactly what she feels like she deserves.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 09:20 PM
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Hah, try telling that to a cop busting you for 'disorderly conduct' when they order you to do something that violates your rights.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 09:16 PM
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I'd love to see a sub with this as a mission statement. Kind of like oneY should have been.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 09:01 PM
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It's hard to get herpes from stabbing.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 08:58 PM
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There being no minimum sentence means she could never see the inside of a jail cell. Did you mean 'maximum sentence' or did you confuse the meaning?
/r/MensRights14/06/11 08:57 PM
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Women, on the other hand, do almost everything better. We’ve known this intuitively for a long time. If you didn’t, just ask your wife or your mother. Market watch's research department.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 07:55 PM
1

Do you often do the work of a clinical psychologist from your armchair?
/r/MensRights14/06/11 07:47 PM
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No, where you say he has narcissistic personality disorder. I don't think there's anything wrong with the guy but a lack of foresight and impulse control.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 07:35 PM
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Our interactions are more sophisticated than other mammals, but we evolved in commonality with them. We have the same brain structures and exhibit the same general behaviors. Humans do non-rational things all the time. There's nothing so special about us that we can't be viewed and analyzed through an anthropological lens. Your 'rational thought' is an evolutionary feature you've developed to help you satisfy your baser instincts. And they run the show, not your conscious thoughts. Rationalizati…
/r/MensRights14/06/11 10:35 AM
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when I expect people not to pee on things to establish their territory? Can we talk reasonably? Not peeing on things falls into the category of not destroying each other's property and indecent exposure... bits of morality we already enforce with our rule of law. All mammals mate and court each other, but we're talking about humans. Try to keep your head. edit: I accidentally forgot a
/r/MensRights14/06/11 06:42 AM
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Well she sounds like she's trying to enforce her own morality on the rest of the world and like she has very little consideration towards how mammals interact.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 06:30 AM
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Right, but you're also right that there's no direct way to directly compare the experiences of someone circumcised as an infant and someone who's not. The next best thing, I would argue a better thing, is a rational adult with the power of language that can tell us the before and after. Here's a guy who did it and is now against it. Here's another guy who had to have it done for medial reasons. There are more, but these seemed to have the most discussion to them. I'm totally against the stuff. I…
/r/MensRights14/06/11 06:27 AM
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No one has a frame of reference to understand the difference. People who were circumcised as adults.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 06:04 AM
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That's a pretty weighty accusation to make about someone you don't personally know.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 06:00 AM
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The alpha male isn't the one that leads the pack, the alpha is the one that gets to mate with the females.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 05:57 AM
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Just make the point you wanted to make. Leading questions are insulting.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 05:56 AM
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It's insulting to point out that you have no frame of reference to understand the difference?
/r/MensRights14/06/11 05:54 AM
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I know! How did youtube let that one get by the 'protect everyone's feelings' filter?
/r/MensRights14/06/11 05:51 AM
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Very cute story. Very lucky man. Sounds like he hooked himself a winner.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 05:50 AM
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You should debate them in any public situation where the topic comes up though. As long as you keep your head, your thinking may resonate with people around you.
/r/MensRights14/06/11 12:05 AM
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It happened once and freaked everybody out.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 08:09 PM
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You should either play nicely or be less easy to offend. Perfect timing, picking up your ball in a sniveling huff and going home. I only just managed to turn the conversation back to your loaded question (some might say finally getting back to the point), which you asked me to go over for you. Once I did, baby butthurt doesn't want to play anymore. Too much substance? Edit: A thought just struck me as I was looking over the cheap shots that inspired the 'good boy' line. Did you ask me to answer …
/r/MensRights13/06/11 11:50 AM
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True. And you're always so reasonable when allowed to speak first, at first.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 11:43 AM
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How sad that you'd spend so much time on something you're not enjoying. Good boy, bringing back a relevent tidbit of on-topic conversation. As promised, I'll explain to you how it's a loaded question. And for what reason could you assume that an anarchist supports state oppression over men (or women, as it may possibly be) through the family court? You take for granted that I assume that 'an anarchist would support state oppression over men'. I most certainly don't make that assumption. Your sta…
/r/MensRights13/06/11 11:39 AM
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There's not a news organization on the planet that hasn't been at the center of a credibility scandal. Not an established one anyway. People speaking like you are about newspapers tend to do so for political reasons. I could be wrong, since you do so much black and white thinking in general, or at least you exhibit it. What is it about the Daily Mail that makes you act like such an idiot? Please, pick a single thing in my comment to reply to, then completely ignore the rest of it. Then go off on…
/r/MensRights13/06/11 11:29 AM
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Sorry, not angrily. Smugly self assured and ignorant. Way to mix up the verbiage, Twain. Say the word delusional again.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 10:31 AM
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Oh, here we go. No, I've had plenty of conversations with people who disagreed with me that didn't turn into the petty bickering that I expect in this thread. I've never had an argument with anyone who completely ignored everything I said, just to talk past me. I've not seen a single one of you that's yet to even acknowledge any point I've made. You, the collective you, simply say I haven't made any points, arrogantly proclaim I'm not following 'logic', and proceed to attack me for whatever reas…
/r/MensRights13/06/11 10:23 AM
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Lovely how you didn't quote the loaded question itself. I could have very slowly explained how it was loaded, and you might have learned the meaning to one of your 'logic 101' words. But no, predictably you made it about your butthurt and showing how well you can internet fight. I'm glad you're insulted, though I would prefer you felt shamed. Have a good rage, inadequate little boy. The moment you apologize, act like an adult and go back to the beginning, we can have a real conversation. Until t…
/r/MensRights13/06/11 10:15 AM
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I'm fighting with people who seem to be coming here just to pick a fight. I don't need accusatory language from the very first person to recognize that I said something. Go talk to a mirror, the lot of ya.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 10:07 AM
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So... you're just doing this to spout off angrily at people. I think I covered that before. If it wasn't the fact that I dared to talk about the article the topic is based off of, it would have been some other reason to completely ignore my point of view. Keep talking past people. See how your opinion never changes throughout your life. Must mean you're right.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 09:56 AM
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You wanted more after "Eat the fattest dick, you flaming faggot scumbag"? You can tell a lot about someone by the way they curse someone else. Seems you like dick and have a small vocabulary. Keep using your vocabulary words from your 'logic' class. I don't think you know what any of them mean. All you've done this whole time is throw shit. I mean you come close to responding to what I say and making arguments of your own... I don't know what stops you. Humility, I hope. I thought anarchists liv…
/r/MensRights13/06/11 07:20 AM
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You expect your petty, vitriolic argument style to change someone's mind? You're pretty fucking stupid, I have to say.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 07:09 AM
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yawn
/r/MensRights13/06/11 07:07 AM
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Yeah, repeat the incoherent sentence without context. That'll really move this conversation along. That was the one I would have quoted to go hostile with you, btw. Feign ignorance and blame you for responding to the meaning of what I was saying? Rather than the content? The meaning you took that supposedly I knew you would take? Secret messages are a symptom of schizophrenia.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 05:45 AM
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Find me the Daily Mail headline that says women are a problem. I'll be here.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 05:34 AM
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Two ways to make an anarchist stop listening: Say something they disagree with; call them out on their antisocial behavior. Hahahaha
/r/MensRights13/06/11 05:30 AM
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Okay, so nothing from the daily mail could possibly be good for anything and I don't share your universal condemnation for a news outlet because I'm chasing my premise. Is that why you're talking past me without addressing anything I said? Nothing in this most recent post of yours has anything, even slightly to do with the topic we were talking about. You're trolling. You may not think of it that way, but you're not allowing a conversation to happen. Rather, you're just trying to start a fight. …
/r/MensRights13/06/11 05:25 AM
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Of course. Make a post slinging mud? Fifty downvotes, Fifty replies. Make some points? Fifty downvotes, no replies. This has been a fun sideshow, anarchists.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 05:20 AM
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Do I have to accept the premise that the Daily Mail attacks and generalizes women and muslims to respond to your question? Is it more or less possible to frame the conversation in a fair way now that you've already called a newspaper extremist? I don't think it's "outrageous" to talk about any group in a general sense. That's what you're doing every time you talk about a group. I think negative and, much more importantly, false stereotypes could be considered outrageous, but you didn't say that.…
/r/MensRights13/06/11 05:14 AM
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This is where you excel. Once the conversation is broken down, and you get to revel in your assholery. It's not about the fair exchange of ideas; if it ever were, you wouldn't ask loaded questions and the like. It was about having a dirty street fight, and proving that you can be the bigger dick. What comes next?
/r/MensRights13/06/11 04:52 AM
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Oh, you're from /anarchism. No wonder.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 01:43 AM
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I live on a planet where people think it's impossible for a male to be raped, or a female to be a rapist. On this planet, women are given preferential treatment in law, government, business and our social reality. In law, there's the sentencing gap between men and women. In government, there's the torrent of money going to women's health issues and women's shelters that men can see none of. In business, compitent women are prized by recruiters, who are given incentives to hire in certian proport…
/r/MensRights13/06/11 01:41 AM
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Hollow words. Plus, I was speaking much more generally than you took me for.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 12:53 AM
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The fact that you're very interested in poisoning the well didn't need to be spelled out to me.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 12:44 AM
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on the other hand, here on /r/mr, there is some lukewarm support for that idea. So we're not rape appologists, we're just indifferent to rape victims. I'm so glad an army of people are so eager to tell me exactly how I think.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 12:29 AM
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The problem is with the 60(?) years of PR that has every boy and girl indoctrinated to believe feminism = equality, good. It's hard to find a female that doesn't identify as a feminist. That's why to be anti-feminist in the slightest, you have to start all the way at the beginning with "if you don't support feminism, you must want to take away voting rights".
/r/MensRights13/06/11 12:27 AM
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So sick of people missing the point, then telling us how we think to shame us for it.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 12:19 AM
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Hmm.. someone with the word 'drama' in their username causing drama by trolling. Hmmmm....
/r/MensRights13/06/11 12:05 AM
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I think short, humorous messages are a good thing. Most people aren't going to read the drawn out posts and arguments that happen here. Bringing light to issues, if just to make people aware, through humor is a great way to spread the message. It's just a shame that none of us are very funny. But that's a problem all advocacy groups have. They (and we) take themselves too seriously.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 11:45 PM
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This is false. Men fight and die in foreign countries seemingly for the fuck of it. I can't see it having done anything to bring gas prices down.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 11:43 PM
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My problem is more getting my head around recursion right now. Do you have any tips for bug checking? I tend to not only get errors, but infinite errors. Print statements help, but it's tough to know where to put them.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 11:38 PM
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Not to be that guy, but I think her problem with men has more to do with how she was only able to get half of her chin in the photo.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 11:35 PM
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I don't know, so I'll speculate. Females and muslims are something of sacred cows to media. For different reasons, you can never speak badly of them, but the Daily Mail apparently does anyway. I think it's a shame that they're bad journalists in both the traditional sense and by not respecting the sacred cows.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 11:28 PM
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Rape is between individuals. I thought rape was an entire culture of men making jokes about women and empowering and encouraging each other to rape as much as they can. Tee-hee
/r/MensRights12/06/11 11:11 PM
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Wow. It began as a joke, but you retards seriously can't make a point without characterizing your opponents viewpoints in the most flimsy, self serving way you can. Have fun talking to only people who agree with you, baby boy.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 10:36 PM
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Find it.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 10:35 PM
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It's not matriarchy, it's gynocentrism. We don't live in a society ruled by women. The power difference isn't black and white, which makes anarchism a clumsy player in all of this. We live in a society that values women above all other people, and will bend over backwards for them. At the chance I don't have to write up a seven paragraph post about this, try looking at the frontpage with that perspective. I'm kinda busy dealing with your rabid cohorts as they loudly explain why nothing important…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 09:48 PM
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Two days ago, when I said I wouldn't take part in a carousel of a conversation, after you blatantly ignored every word I said in favor of talking past me with your own points. THAT was when I tried to punch out. At this point, you're just being a bitch.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 09:36 PM
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You can never expect an anarchist to read the second half of a sentence. Must be something about power structures. No, you don't have a leg to stand on when you say other people are painting with a heavy brush. Not when you come into a forum for the discussion of mens rights filled with prejudice and firmly entrenched notions of what we care about and how we think. Shame on you, stupid little child. Then calling our definition of feminism a straw man after insisting on your own. As if you had th…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 09:34 PM
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"patriarchy is real and alive because 60 years ago, we had evolutionarily reached gender roles that were incongruent with modern society, and I'm incapable of viewing any social dynamic through any but the lens of oppression, and even then there must be a clear oppressor and victim" I'm trying on your anarchist tactic of characterizing your opponent's point of view in your own terms. Is it working?
/r/MensRights12/06/11 09:29 PM
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I almost overlooked you in this feeding frenzy of anarchists trying to speak with my voice against me and using mischaracterizations. I'm going to try to snap out of 'beating away trolls with a wooden stick' mode. (It's possible to have a reasonable conversation with one or two people on a topic, but coming back to reddit with 9 screaming orangereds?) I'm interested in exanging ideas with people who oppose the state, but because I'm opposed to the state in it's current form, not because I want t…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 09:23 PM
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I didn't read your comment. It's time to fuck off.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 09:15 PM
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Hey, I have another issue for you beady eyed anarchists who are sniveling about us only having family court and a lack of due process for rape accused. This fuckwit is parroting the idea of 'patriarchy' as if it had any value as a model for society. It's a catch-all, stupid. It's like intelligent design, it can't be dis-proven because the definition is too broad: if it's bad for women, it's men's fault! If it's bad for men, it's the consequence of men doing bad things to women! Whatever. You and…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 09:05 PM
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Lol, dummy thinks we've never heard this first-off-the-bench argument a million times. Should I reply to that, or the arrogant and stupid characterization of only having one or two issues that are important here? There's nothing civil or reasonable about the people storming into this sub, let's have a flame war!
/r/MensRights12/06/11 09:00 PM
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Fuck you. You have no legs to stand on and say anyone else is painting with a wide brush. (Not 'large a brush' dummy)
/r/MensRights12/06/11 08:59 PM
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Lol. Why do I have to? If there's even one issue where men are discriminated against in law, the movement has traction. Keep shaking your little fists in anger, stupid anarchist.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 08:57 PM
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And for what reason could you assume that an anarchist supports state oppression over men (or women, as it may possibly be) through the family court? Hey look. A piece of shit anarchist expects me to answer his loaded question. I assume this is how they argue in their circlejerk sub. What a douche.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 08:56 PM
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There's a whole subreddit for you to circlejerk your ideas, which only in hypothetical discussion wouldn't destroy any and every society larger than 150 people. For all the good your lazy, broad strokes statement did, you could have been taking about statist and non-statist hamsters.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 08:54 PM
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Your outrage against anarchists is built on your faulty assumption regarding what anarchists believe. Hey look. A stupid fucking anarachist is acting all reasonable about MR's misconceptions about the anarchist movement while simultaneously making completely parallel bigoted assumptions about MR. Let's enjoy this moment.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 08:51 PM
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Hey, look. An anarchist is calling us insane for noticing legal double standards in family court. I hope his yurt made out of garbage bags doesn't catch on fire. He'll have to go hunter/gatherer.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 10:45 AM
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Buzzwords drawn from my ideology that haven't been introduced to the conversation until this point. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Are you one of the gatekeepers?
/r/MensRights12/06/11 10:35 AM
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This is what I get for feeding him.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 05:59 AM
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You're starting to lose steam. Try attacking my sexuality.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 03:48 AM
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They would never, ever do that joke though.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 03:43 AM
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I get it. You dislike me enough to reopen an argument 24 hours after it happened; you dislike me enough to go juvenile. Can we break for a second so you can explain wtf that gym line was supposed to mean?
/r/MensRights12/06/11 03:31 AM
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BitchPuppet is falling back into 'gotcha' semantics, then accuses me of just trying to 'win' on the internet. Get a life.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 03:11 AM
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Enough of this. Go to your room.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 03:10 AM
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everything i said was perfectly reasonable and non-inflammatory You asked that an issue that's clearly important to more than a few people be dropped because you don't want to talk about it anymore,then you made a glib joke about penis size. I'm glad I get to downvote your whining twice.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 02:48 AM
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I want veto power over a woman's pregnancy. If it's my genes, I should have as much of a say as her. And I'm serious about this.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 02:33 AM
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TIL people have twitter arguments
/r/MensRights12/06/11 02:24 AM
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For cutting up baby's genitals, yes. You're savages. It's barbaric.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 02:17 AM
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When has anything you see when you look around you ever had anything to do with 'should'?
/r/MensRights11/06/11 10:24 PM
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I don't think there is any comparison between male and female genital mutilation, which seems to be the crux of the argument here. You don't get to say what the crux of the argument is. To me, it's the fact that you're cutting up baby's private parts before they have the ability to consent. You don't see a comparison? IN BOTH CASES, YOU TAKE A KNIFE TO A PERSONS GENITALS. What delusion do you suffer from that you find no comparison?? If the folks who were supporting these laws would exempt jews,…
/r/MensRights11/06/11 07:55 PM
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Yours was the first post on this thread, you made a point and refused to... well, you know the story, cunt. Glad you're fucked in the head enough that you think I'm the one trolling in this conversation. It'd be a shame for anyone or anything to affect your self perception. Hope you die!
/r/MensRights11/06/11 01:37 AM
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Ah, but I'm abusing you and calling you names because you're a wormy piece of shit coward who feels like she can shit her opinion on a table, and expect no one to say a word about it. Not because you're a feminist. Not unless you equate those two things.
/r/MensRights11/06/11 01:29 AM
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Why must this conversation be captive to your absolutes? Uh-oh! Someone doesn't want to argue on equal footing! Hypocrite.
/r/MensRights11/06/11 01:22 AM
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So, the belief that bad air caused disease, different-weighted objects fell at different speeds, and that the earth had only existed for 6000 years were all true until proved false? I like how you said something completely true like it couldn't have possibly happened. Read a history book. We believed all that stuff until someone could prove it wrong. You're acting like I'm asking you to prove a negative. I'm asking you to prove your worldview to be more reasonable than mine. If the idea that wom…
/r/MensRights11/06/11 01:19 AM
1

Love the passive aggressiveness of your characterization. I challenge you to find anyone who actually took part in a genuine back and forth being called 'a stupid feminist cunt' by anyone. You're a coward because you're unwilling to engage in conversation at all. I take that to show you're afraid to even risk having your perspective change. You've internalized your devotion to this vague cause of yours to the point it's become a pillar of your self identity. To engage in a reasonable conversatio…
/r/MensRights11/06/11 01:02 AM
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That's not where the burden of proof falls. It falls on whoever is trying to argue against the established assumptions. I assume rape has a sexual component to it (gasp). I assume that if a woman is to be a rape victim, a man would most likely be the perpetrator. I assume a woman's appearance, especially if designed to draw a sexual response from men, would cause her to be sexually desired, or noticed, before females that don't dress in that way. These statements stand on their own. They natural…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 11:19 PM
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On the second part, I think she was saying rapists would be encouraged to rape by clothing. I don't equate my maleness to rapistness, so I'm not really offended by that implication. I can't speak for rapists motivations better than you (I hope). On the first, I took it more as flirting meaning sexual availability, but there's no accounting for interpretation.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 11:11 PM
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You made me smile, backpedaling from what you actually said and instead making it a cultural argument. Don't worry, I won't hold you to your words. The degree to which male genital mutilation is damaging, painful and dangerous is a secondary issue anyway. That it is in the slightest is enough. This is the point: Look, if you don't want to get circumcised, then don't do it You don't get that decision when your parents do it for you, or the hospital does it as routine. Babies have their bodies mut…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 10:48 PM
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For someone trying to defend an assumption, you're pretty quick on the trigger to demand other people come up with proof. Further, my post was specifically made to stick my finger in your chest and shame you for the douchebag move of your snide [citation needed] post, which you may still go fuck yourself for. I defended my point of view. I used inductive reasoning. If you insist on the conversation revolving around appeal to authority, why not just find a quick study and shut me up? So far I hav…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 10:20 PM
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You're trying to bait me into a big pro/anti feminist argument so you can beat up on a feminist. I wonder if you could have a conversation without speaking for the other person. It's disgustingly dishonest, and quite illuminating towards your character. You've done it three times now. Small wonder you keep your opinions so close to your chest. You can't even have a conversation about refusing to converse without attributing self-confirming meaning to whatever is said. Gee, what group does that r…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 10:09 PM
1

If your objection to the so-called 'slut shaming' of bringing up the woman's attire in regards to preparatory rape prevention is that it's being given too much weight, I would agree with you. I would argue though, that extra weight is applied to in response to the feminist refusal to acknowledge it as a factor in the first place. My problem, and the thing that motivates me to argue, is the underlying assumption that women are moral objects and men are moral actors. I don't want to parrot girlwri…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:57 PM
2

Since most active feminists are from the category you and your grandmother hate and seek to disavow, I find it easier to just not think of you and your grandmother as modern feminists. You're just good people who believe in equality, which should be the norm. The fact that at some point feminism = "good people who believe in equality" seemed to give the 'real' feminists ammunition of the 'you're either with us or you're against morality' sort. I could get into a lot of screaming, reputation and …
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:46 PM
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Someone asks for reading material from an actual authority, you pester him with your opinion, and I'm the one being a douche? The conversation would have been better served by your silence.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:40 PM
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Does leaving the face plate of an expensive car radio cause car theft? Do you believe the OP was making that suggestion? Of course not. No reasonable person would make that kind of leap, unless they had a pet cause they were trying to promote. And a lot of internally inconsistent beliefs. I can understand why you wouldn't want to expose yourself to discussion.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:37 PM
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I don't think you need a citation to question the first part. Would the would-be rapist be a man? Yes/no. Does dressing provocatively attract men? Yes/no. If you answered yes to both questions, you shouldn't feel self assured in your beliefs enough to drop a snarky 'citation needed'.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:34 PM
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Can you see the difference? Can you discuss anything with a person with the slightest disagreement without being condescending? Except then you're saying "don't make it easy to steal" I'll thank you not to speak for me, condescending asshole. I'm saying don't put an attractive theft item into an extremely risky situation. It's doubling up risks. Why don't we just dispose of analogies? It provides too enticing an opportunity to stack the circumstances towards whatever you're trying to prove. Why …
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:28 PM
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I'm not sure if you really want to hear my point of view. Your post seems dripping with hostility and sarcasm. You didn't even wait for my reply before you arrogantly suggested I couldn't explain myself. You just kept going as if I'm a completely irrational creature, cementing your insistence that this comic does nothing but bash women. Well? Do you want to hear my point of view? Do you want to know the reason this fits in with mens rights? Can you be civil?
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:18 PM
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It wasn't cited at all. I'm not going to believe the results of a survey I can't see the questions to. Especially if the conclusion drawn from the survey is that men are naturally rapists and would do it all the time if they could just get away with it. Talking about a study != citing a study. And not all studies are sound, or relevant. that's why you cite them when you try to invoke them in an argument.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:12 PM
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I wanted to politely point out that the 'clothes = rape' argument was wrong Right. You misrepresented the point the OP was trying to make, disproved your strawman, then tried to happily skip away from the conversation you seemed to want to start. There's nothing polite about what you did.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:10 PM
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You replied to a comment asking specifically for a citation he could read for himself, you replied with an opinion drawn from something you read once somewhere.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:08 PM
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I don't know what you did to earn the 'troll' RES tag I gave you, but you'd have earned a second one here. I don't know whether to call you intellectually lazy or cowardly. For what it's worth, the person you're replying to has a reputation for being insightful and well reasoned. You'd do well to take the five minutes it would take to read.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 09:01 PM
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A popular opinion couldn't possibly be misinformed.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:57 PM
3

Is it?
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:44 PM
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What a shitty example. I wouldn't be so blunt if the expensive car parallel hadn't already been introduced in the comic itself. Try "don't leave that BMW parked in a bad neighborhood under that broken street lamp".
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:43 PM
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I don't understand what you're doing here then. To deposit your opinion and leave before you risk discussion? It seems like you only wanted to politely inform us that we're wrong, you're right and conversation wouldn't be worth anything. You're a coward and an idiot.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:40 PM
2

Do we have to go through the discussion to dispel argument 'rape has nothing to do with sexuality, only power'?
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:34 PM
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Good. It looks like the sub has touched on something we're not allowed to talk about. If your worldview isn't offended by coming here, we're failing in our goals.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:31 PM
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Logic is only absolute in mathematics. In real life, Tim, there's no objective truth. You have to weigh opinions and values. You can argue logically, but you can't claim ownership of logic.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:28 PM
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So far, there's one piece of hypothetical evidence from a single study you've only suggested exists. Now you're acting high and mighty. Check yourself. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, or isn't true. I'm saying it's intellectually cowardly (and illegal) for a prosecutor in a courtroom to hide evidence from the defense. Do you see what I'm saying? Granting you the deference you don't deserve, is it possible the most common thing for a rape victim to be wearing is jeans because women dressing slut…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:16 PM
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OH MY GOD
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:11 PM
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Short answer: no. I'm just going to say what I want and expect you to believe me, even after you showed skepticism.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:09 PM
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When you tell a woman that she should dress differently because she might be raped, you are making her a victim of rape. Advice is rape.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:07 PM
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Everyone here already knows what's said behind our backs, because they say it to our faces whenever we try to bring up our issues. I'm glad they're all going to be dead in 100 years.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 08:01 PM
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For what reason do you believe these false things?
/r/MensRights10/06/11 06:24 PM
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No, it's not a real argument. It's a dismissal based on your preconcieved notions and what you consider to be self-evident, and my having dealt with similar arguments and assumptions for the several weeks this has been the 'hot' topic. You described one specific kind of female genital mutilation to compare one specific kind of male genital mutilation. There are analogous types of female circumcision where only the clitoral hood is removed. There's no distinction based on severity there. Cutting …
/r/MensRights10/06/11 04:45 AM
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You've misread my sentence, causing you to come to the conclusion you have. "Gay guy" is the indirect object of my verb phrase "pin a false rape charge". I was indirectly referring to the double standard in society that believes that a man can never be a victim, and a woman would never lie about being one.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 03:06 AM
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Then go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 03:00 AM
5

Why do we stop muslims from circumcising their daughters?
/r/MensRights09/06/11 11:47 PM
2

But again, the amount of women who lie about rape in the general population are majority. I can just talk out of my ass too.
/r/MensRights09/06/11 09:25 PM
2

Women can get their tubes tied. What are you jealous about?
/r/MensRights09/06/11 09:21 PM
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Having only skimmed his wall of unformatted text, I'm guessing he's talking about the difference between equality of opportunity and results.
/r/MensRights09/06/11 09:14 PM
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A gay guy wouldn't be able to pin a false rape charge on you and be believed by default.
/r/MensRights09/06/11 09:05 PM
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I can see from the fast and universal downvotes I've earned, it would be time well spent.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 10:35 PM
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Important distinction: they don't just believe that men don't, they believe by definition, men can't be the victims of sexism. It's simply not possible.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 10:16 PM
2

I don't believe I've ever encountered that word before. Could you illuminate me to the meaning of 'updawg', sir?
/r/MensRights08/06/11 09:51 PM
1

The 100k figure is reached not by initial sale value, but the value of the culture of football field-sized foreskin they use to test "cruelty-free" products on.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 09:44 PM
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You're doing it wrong. We want people who disagree with us in a reasonable way to come here. When we engage them, both sides of the argument are presented to the larger public, and informs their opinions. If you believe you're right, you should jump at the chance to debate different views. Your correctness will be apparent to the gallery.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 09:32 PM
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Some bitch got a hair across her cunt. It's no reason to start treating adults like tit sucking children. Where's your reverence for the English fucking language? It's so cunt-swellingly diverse and filled with words, for every feeling and subtle meaning you can find a word to suit you. Like a fucking painter's palette. Language doesn't have to defend itself from you, bitch. There's a place for 'bitch' and 'cunt' as long as there are thoughts and feelings that correspond to them.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 09:14 PM
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If someone made a subreddit trying to fight the influence of political correctness, I might spend all of my time there every day.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 08:59 PM
2

Strictly speaking, is 'they' singular?
/r/MensRights08/06/11 10:18 AM
1

To agree as a child is to give 'assent'. Saying 'yes' can either be giving assent or consent, depending on who says it. To say 'yes' and 'consent' are the same things would be like saying paper bags and bags are the same thing. One is a category within the other.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 10:12 AM
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It's pretty bad. It depends on what district and what state, sure. But there are some federal policies that make the average pretty bad.
/r/MensRights07/06/11 02:58 AM
1

You? Fuck your sensibilities, troll.
/r/MensRights06/06/11 10:36 PM
1

More like "why would the author even throw in a complaint about periods in the first place?"
/r/MensRights06/06/11 10:10 PM
1

During one of the six weeks, the men will have to endure severe abdominal cramps, back aches, and have extreme, unexplained mood swings but never once complain or slow down from other duties. Why?
/r/MensRights06/06/11 10:00 PM
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In defense of homeschooling (or rather the impulse to try), public schools. If you've got a teacher in the family, especially one who likes to externalize problems, you'd never let your own child go to one of those places, given options.
/r/MensRights06/06/11 09:56 PM
2

No other subreddit has assholes like this come and complain about the 'anecdotal' nature of news stories. No other subreddit is expected to defend, as a community, every single post on it's front page. Only this subreddit (and topic) is prohibited from giving examples of what they're talking about, for the above reasons. This is a /wtf article that illustrates one of the main narratives of this sub. Men are villains and women are victims. This woman spied on this man having sex through his windo…
/r/MensRights06/06/11 09:46 PM
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1/10 = 0.1 < 0.5 Yes.
/r/MensRights05/06/11 08:43 PM
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This dumb bitch thinks demanding polite language from adults talking among themselves is a matter of equality. What an imposing cunt!
/r/MensRights05/06/11 08:40 PM
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A lot of what we take as gospel here goes contrary to how we were raised as children. It fosters kind of a red pill/blue pill dynamic which makes you either look like a crazy eyed fundamentalist or a glossy eyed sheep.
/r/MensRights03/06/11 11:11 AM
1

On the topic of downvotes: The best post I could imagine would have a million downvotes and a million upvotes, and not a single person passing it by without reaction. In other words, if you say something no one could disagree with, it wasn't worth being said.
/r/MensRights02/06/11 03:35 AM
1

The answer will come as we continue to develop technologically. As it stands, women have a right to control their reproduction tangentially through their rights to their own body. These only trump the unborn child's right to life (as contentious as that difference has been) because the child could not have life without the woman's body. Once we can take children from the womb in the first months of pregnancy and ensure they're none the worse for it, the equilibrium will change. The trauma of car…
/r/MensRights02/06/11 03:34 AM
0

What if I just don't want another person to have control over my reproduction? I want control over my genes. We've heard stories of women impregnating themselves against the will of the man by stealing semen (by various means). Taking the parental support angle out of it, and having no responsibilities as a father I would still feel violated. I don't feel like your right to body integrity trumps that violation against my rights over my life. The child is as much my body as it is yours. I should …
/r/MensRights01/06/11 10:42 PM
6

I'd invite some female friends, too, but not to launch a feminist assault on these guys. (And certainly not to date them; not only do I respect my friends more than that, I don't want this to be reduced to a pickup opportunity.) Just to talk about our lives, to joke around, and to interact with each other and the guys the way people interact on a casual night out. Can you imagine how lovely an evening it would be, being cobbled together as a group of accused woman-haters on one side, seething fe…
/r/MensRights01/06/11 10:14 PM
1

There are so many shitty 'counselors' out there with a master's degree. Such an overwhelming, self selected female majority and undisciplined bias.
/r/MensRights01/06/11 09:52 PM
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People are afraid that if we prosecute false rape accusers, real rape victims would be less likely to come forward. They would fear prosecution if they couldn't prove their claim. People say. I think it's more that we're supposed to believe every rape claim as soon as it's made, so if some man is found not guilty, it just means a rapist walked free. Why punish the girl again?
/r/MensRights01/06/11 08:55 PM
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A fun thing to do is go to the FAQ and check all of the threads it's linked to. You won't find a single post arguing the side of MR that has a positive vote ratio. This reddit has a gentle snow of downvotes that cover everything left behind.
/r/MensRights01/06/11 08:51 PM
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There are quite a few self posts on this subreddit, as well as /wtf. Search 'rape' and you'll have your examples.
/r/MensRights01/06/11 08:43 PM
2

You'll find that every year there are elections. Every four and two years is just for the federal government. Most of the actual governing happens at the state and local levels. It's a smaller pond, and a smaller percentage of the fish are even paying attention. Your vote is much more powerful there.
/r/MensRights01/06/11 04:42 AM
0

If religion helped, we wouldn't have to fight against it.
/r/MensRights31/05/11 11:08 PM
2

Was I the only freshman in high school to think To Kill a Mockingbird was a crappy, plodding book? Pretty much all of the books I was required to read in high school were shit. Catcher in the Rye? I'm already an angsty little shit. Why do I need to read an uninteresting account of another one? 1984 was pretty decent though. Despite how Orwell couldn't decide between preaching and telling a story, so he quit one halfway to do the other. He should have had two main characters, one captured and one…
/r/MensRights31/05/11 10:51 PM
1

You should be able to answer your own question.
/r/MensRights31/05/11 10:37 PM
2

I wasn't speaking to you.
/r/MensRights31/05/11 10:27 PM
2

See how dishonestly this person argues, simply by the way he frames the statement. So many unspoken assumptions. So many concessions assumed and not argued for. Why would anyone in their right mind engage this childish Sean Hannity?
/r/MensRights31/05/11 10:08 PM
0

The short answer is no. The long answer is an allegory to religion.
/r/MensRights31/05/11 09:57 PM
2

Liberty is not having the course of your life chosen for you by another person.
/r/MensRights31/05/11 09:43 PM
1

I think you might have accidentally
/r/MensRights30/05/11 03:56 AM
2

All I've been doing for the last five minutes has been trying to pronounce that. Mangshus?
/r/MensRights29/05/11 10:13 PM
0

Hey, I'm glad you're offended and all, but I think you missed my point. You certainly missed ExpendableOne's. He wasn't comparing sexism to racism. Although I understand being confused; he did lapse into a Jesse Jackson style string of adjectives at the end. You made the argument that, given uneven levels of demand, it was permissible to have a women-only residency while not providing a male-only one. Name-stealer was using racism to illustrate your double standard. You let his point go complete…
/r/MensRights29/05/11 03:10 AM
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Don't be so arrogant to assume that the rest of the world, or even a majority are as 'enlightened' as you.
/r/MensRights28/05/11 08:39 PM
1

Fishing/reaching for inconsistencies by trying to change the subject. I see this all the time right after someone just gets their argument shut down. All you're doing is showing that it's more about your ego than trying to come to a thoughtful conclusion.
/r/MensRights28/05/11 08:34 PM
1

Yeah! Boo fat people! What sub am I on?
/r/MensRights28/05/11 02:54 AM
1

men don't bear all the risks. i mean, you do know what pregnancy is, right? The risks involved with pregnancy are completely irrelevant to the conversation of reproductive rights. There's not a single risk or responsibility that a woman can't opt out of. Anything that happens, or has the possibility to happen, happens out of her choice.
/r/MensRights26/05/11 04:11 AM
1

You're doing it wrong
/r/MensRights25/05/11 08:24 PM
1

should have been done away with Chinese pinching shoes. I don't condone chasing away doctors and rabbis by hitting them with shoes.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 08:22 PM
2

This post, Worthless.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 07:04 AM
5

At one-minute-to-midnight at the end of my 30s, I swapped hooking up for tidying up, and bragging about drinking for being on the receiving end of nagging about drinking." That sounds wonderful.
/r/MensRights25/05/11 06:02 AM
1

I googled ROKS and a flamethrower came up. What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights23/05/11 07:07 PM
9

It's never a conversation about rape though. It's invariably a conversation about rape allegations.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 07:05 PM
4

Proportional representation by party. For the house of representatives only, I propose that we vote only for a political party. Seats would be assigned proportionally to each party depending on how many votes they receive. Each party's primaries would determine the order in which their individual candidates receive those seats they win. This immediately puts an end to gerrymandering, since there will no longer be districts to redraw. There will also be no incentive for politicians to scratch eac…
/r/MensRights23/05/11 06:18 PM
2

I'm going on the gamble that someone speaking plainly and without fear of offending with honesty would be received by the political world like a shout from heaven. Basically, I'm deluded.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 06:03 PM
3

Well I'm running like a motherfucker at some point. I can't leave this world without at least trying to put an end to the flawed concept of district based representation.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 05:12 PM
0

My objection was not to the validity of the use of the 'date rape drug' in actual rape. (You can get an erection out of a cadaver by the way). It was just the double standard.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 05:09 PM
1

I'll limit myself, in your company, to using words with two... sound noises.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 05:07 PM
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I don't care if you've been here longer than kloo. You're trying to say generalizing all women as evil isn't misogyny. You're a provocateur without subtlety. Come back with a better attempt. And another brand new user name.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 05:02 PM
3

I think it'd be relatively safe (in terms of political capital) to have extreme focus on specific men's issues. Prostate cancer, domestic violence (Conceivably, for a master of the dance...) There's good work that can be done while we wait for the tide to rise a bit more. We need someone on stage though. Someone needs to step up into the political realm in a viable way.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 09:19 AM
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I never trust the words of someone posting here on their first day as a redditor. You're much more subtle than the others I've noticed. Seems you're learning how to blend in better. You'll have to do better still, to give examples you can point out to your feminists friends of misogyny. Someone just called bullshit.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 08:30 AM
1

Omg! Literal interpretation of what you said!
/r/MensRights23/05/11 08:16 AM
1

For fuck's sake... I'm not even going to try editing it again to spell it out more. Bring on the downvotes, illiterates.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 05:17 AM
1

Absolutely. But that's only the perception of danger. The real danger has to be solved by getting rid of the drug war and doing something about this disparity of wealth. Only then will work against the perception be fruitful.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 04:30 AM
5

you agree with women's rights but not with feminism. Spot on. Everyone should have the same rights to the same opportunities to the same sense of personal fulfillment. I regret the initial behavior of my peers here. There's a very real knee-jerk tendency to focus first on the rhetoric used rather than the meaning intended. On different days, we're all guilty of it.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 03:33 AM
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I have a different take on the general public perception: The woman spiking the man's drink isn't such a big deal, because the worst that could happen is he gets robbed. The man spiking the woman's drink is a rape in progress. Edit: sigh downvotes Edit again: I think I might have just gone from misogynist to misanthrope.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 03:04 AM
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What struck me immediately is that even in this expose showing gender double standards... She's spiking his drink so she can rob him?
/r/MensRights23/05/11 02:56 AM
6

You're under the impression that we're here for exact equality where gender no longer matters. I don't think anyone is trying to make that point. What we want more than anything is equality of opportunity, and under the eyes of the law. The concept that gender is a completely cultural construction is very much a feminist pillar of thought. It's one that we rail against. It's the root cause of one of the biggest problems facing our children, in the arena of gender discussions: the feminization of…
/r/MensRights23/05/11 02:49 AM
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Your comment made me think of the irony in Hillary Clinton's mantra "it takes a village to raise a child". If she meant it as anything other than social programs, she'd run into conflict with the 'stranger danger' 'rape culture' narratives, and lose her feminist credentials. It's not just that we don't have healthy communities that don't accept gays, it's that we don't have healthy communities in general. That's a much broader problem than gender issues.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 01:40 AM
3

That is exactly the opposite of what I was raised to believe. This is what I refer to in my longer comment downthread as "cobwebs from the 'old ways'" and why I brashly told you to reevaluate your beliefs.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 01:28 AM
5

My name is a play off of two things: The permanence of the internet and the fleetingness of life. The human is disposable, the account is permanent. It's also a nod to the attitude that this subreddit tries to shine a light on and fight against. It's one of those ways 'the old way' (I refuse to call it patriarchy, it wasn't) was exploitative of men. Society was willing to sacrifice the lives of men to further itself, and nothing's changed. It's not just acceptable that we, as men, sacrifice ours…
/r/MensRights23/05/11 01:22 AM
1

Stop disguising impositions as rights.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 12:54 AM
7

Yesterday I read a post that put a knot in my stomach about how a man can be brutally abused by his spouse, forced to stay out of fear of this inequitable justice system destroying his life and preventing him from seeing his kids again... then having exactly that happen, becoming so emotionally distraught that he openly said he planned to commit suicide and wanting to thank our open discussions about all of this (with only occasional people coming in and shaming us for speaking of it in the firs…
/r/MensRights22/05/11 09:08 PM
3

A barricaded room with protesters outside of it.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 08:56 PM
2

Good therapy is a course of treatment. Getting a pyschology degree as I was trying to find councelors was what dissolusioned me with the whole feild. What you experienced is called "Rogerian mirroring" (I can't find a wiki on it for some reason... basically it's a way to keep the patient talking and going deeper "It sounds like this caused you a lot of anxiety" "YES! I was...") and it's a way to make someone feel better in the short term. With a good therapist, it's a tool to break down emotiona…
/r/MensRights22/05/11 08:37 PM
1

Picture your grandmother naked. Now fuck yourself in the ass with a steak knife.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 10:20 AM
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You should be dead, baby boy.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 10:09 AM
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Oh no, baby boy can't even troll well. Trying to take the high road, fucknut? Too late. You failed at civil conversation, failed at debate and now you proved you can't even succeed at being an ass. Kill yourself.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 09:49 AM
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Baww. Someone called you on your horseshit. What's the matter baby boy? Getting all angry and frustrated that someone disagreed with you, and had proof of what they said? Losing arguments makes you feel stupid doesn't it? Better hide that with anger. Poor baby boy.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 08:42 AM
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That doesn't align with the legal definition of consent. Do you have any examples, or specifics of a case that someone could look up?
/r/MensRights22/05/11 07:38 AM
1

He's just linking to the discussion. The guy in question used a throwaway account.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 07:31 AM
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Oh, yeah... I suppose those are some pretty strong cultural narratives that we've had drilled to us. There's definitely something to it, as it's been so many's experience, but there are probably scores of nuanced reasons both general and specific for that. In any case, forgive me for my knee-jerkyness.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 07:21 AM
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My heart goes out to you. There's always a next day, and each time there is, there's an opportunity to make something of it. Anxiety disorders are a bitch, I know from experience. I know what a panic attack feels like and I know what abuse feels like too (though it's not the same for me. Mine was only emotional as a child). I also contemplated suicide on more than one occasion, and the stress of therapy almost pushed me to it. Know your support structure and rely on it. Tell your story to friend…
/r/MensRights22/05/11 07:11 AM
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Can we avoid discussing ways that this man ending his own life could in any way be considered a positive? I'd like to be able to sleep tonight.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 07:00 AM
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You mean the one where the hypothetical is raised: Your SO explicitly says they have no intention of having any intimate contact with you for half a year... and the poster's indicating that would lead to infidelity? I'm not seeing that as being an example of what you're claiming here. I'm not even sure what you mean. Could you be a little more descriptive?
/r/MensRights22/05/11 06:54 AM
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It was the clear implication. If men found sex to be an emotional thing, you wouldn't have to inform us that women did. It could have gone as an unspoken understanding. You have this condescending way of explaining things to us brutes. Women love sex too? You don't just forget about sex? I thought all of God's creatures were mindless sex organs like us!
/r/MensRights22/05/11 06:45 AM
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Yeah, usually I try to be more coherent. I got a little wargarbly.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 04:20 AM
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No... That's alright. I think I'm done with the whole topic for a while. It wasn't even really the subject matter that bugs me, it's the guy's blatant intellectual dishonesty.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 04:13 AM
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Wear a bright red hat for me.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 03:58 AM
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Are you here trying to push a day celebrating the band Slayer? Wtf?
/r/MensRights22/05/11 03:45 AM
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Whatever, fucknut. I clearly stated what my problem was about you, and you know I didn't even state my opinion. Now you're covering your fragile, stupid person ego by convincing yourself it's because I disagree with you. You wrote a long opinion piece and, confronted with a heavily cited rebuttal, started acting like a butthurt bitch. Cry, sissy.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 03:39 AM
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Why would I debate? You've proven you don't respond to reason or appeals to scientific authority. I just want to add to the chorus of people in your life that will inform you that you're a shit human being.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 03:29 AM
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Dude. 'Come at me bro' is sacred. You can't just throw that out and not throw bombs. So what if Dr Choppy copped out with a link to a... holy shit. HOLY SHIT this guy's a douche. Nevermind, sir. Holy shit. Someone who replied to what he linked you... gave him exactly what he asked for, thinking it didn't exist, and... holy shit. Read for yourself. Holy shit.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 03:22 AM
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Lazy intellectually dishonest fuck. Holy shit. HOLY SHIT. I can't believe what a fuck you are. Fuck fuck fuck. "I don't believe the sources you put in front of my eyes! They must be lies because you know I'm too lazy and attached to my point of view to even allow the possibility that I might have my mind changed, even when I explicitly stated the circumstances in which I would, AND THEY WERE MET" I don't even have words. Fuck. Seriously reconsider waking up in the morning tomorrow. The world doe…
/r/MensRights22/05/11 03:18 AM
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Redditor for 0 days Comment Karma: -136 A good rule of thumb is: if you see someone around here being genuinely misogynistic in an over the top way... best bet troll, possibly feminist provocateur. I think this one's the latter.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 02:46 AM
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He looks like he absorbed Donald Trump in the womb, but his head is still sticking out of this guy's chin.
/r/MensRights21/05/11 07:21 AM
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It took them a while, but they finally found a man to blame in Andy Dick (although I later heard the story behind that was a false)
/r/MensRights21/05/11 06:59 AM
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I guess you've swayed me. I didn't disagree with the medical history thing being a argument for paternity testing, I just have other reasons I support that long before I considered this one. You and aetheralloy are right. It's a good reason to support both.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 11:53 PM
1

I'm not sure I'd link the two, but that's not to say I disagree.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 09:24 PM
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I feel no obligation to make excuses for other people. And absolutely, spot on. I downvote people who disagree with me in specific ways. Namely, those ways that show patent disrespect to me (or whomever they're arguing with) as a person. Quick edit: I've never seen the 'downvoted to hell' scenario that you lovely supporters of equality keep repeating across the rest of reddit. Not unless the person was being a gigantic ass. Or are you going to set the 'hell' threshold so low that a -5 is enough …
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:47 PM
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I agree. I like having the interesting and thought provoking posts on the top and bottom of every comment page. I know where to look. It should also be noted that you can set your preferences to hide comments at whatever threshold you wish.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:32 PM
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OP, this is your answer.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:28 PM
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I've never downvoted anyone just because I disagreed with them. I've downvoted because they make presumptions about me, or anyone who believes as I do. I downvote if they use underhanded argument tactics. I downvote people who push the concept of "rape culture" as if the fact that it exists (as anything but a feminist creation to demonize men) is a foregone conclusion. Also when people type out "umm.." at the beginning of a post just to broadcast how dismissive and patronizing they're trying to …
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:25 PM
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Medical history. The child should have the same opportunity to live a healthy life as one raised by it's biological parents.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:16 PM
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"Pushed into the arms of another man" is something I've heard too often to not disagree with you.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:01 PM
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it is an emotional thing for women Double standard, much?
/r/MensRights20/05/11 07:57 PM
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Is it a wonder I grew up with the mistaken belief that women hate sex, and only use it as leverage to get what they want from you? That once they have their marriage contract and children, they feel they have nothing left to gain from it and naturally stop altogether? That sexual attention and intimacy are privileges that can be revoked as easily as a driver's license, and that every man who finds a woman charitable enough to have these things, and clears her gauntlet proving himself worthy of t…
/r/MensRights20/05/11 07:50 PM
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Or the lesbian couple that wants to raise it without a father. Or the infertile couple that wants to raise it with a father. Or yeah, fuck it. The single mother that wants to raise it without a father. Do you think anyone among these examples wouldn't view a donation of sperm as a simple generosity? I hesitate to make the accusation that your objections are coming from a personal place.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 07:41 PM
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I think it's a terrible shame stemming from this two party catastrophie our country as become, that it's unreasonable for someone to align themselves ideologically without having to ascribe to every group under the political party's umbrella. I don't make the assumption that all Republicans are lock-step with their party's disgusting tendency to morally police private behavior, or any of the other examples I could pull. Yet somehow, I'm expected to answer for the dumb Democrat's disgusting crusa…
/r/MensRights20/05/11 07:34 PM
1

What a stupid analogy. You should feel bad.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 01:00 PM
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Your position implies a collossal disregard for the child's interest More abuse, explotation and inequity is passed off for this reason than anything else. I'm going to put this in bold for you. Fuck the child. If knowing the biological father was an issue, the mother should never have accepted the sperm donation in the first place and the child should never have existed. a denial of biological realities Twisted fuck. You're talking about legal ramifications, not biological realities. The biolog…
/r/MensRights20/05/11 12:41 PM
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You're not creating a child when you donate sperm. You're giving someone without the means the ability to create one. You're not the parent. It's clear that neither one of us is going to convince the other. I'd just as soon not be frustrated by trying.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 09:21 AM
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The created party has a right to know its parent. There's no such thing as a right that obligates someone else to do something for you. That's extortion on the part of the government. Then there's the practical ramifications on men's willingness to donate, if they can expect a stranger to show up at your door 20 years later to unload abandonment issues. I'd be willing to concede anonymous medial histories, but this "rights" rhetoric is misplaced.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:54 AM
2

I like me :-(
/r/MensRights20/05/11 06:05 AM
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A hero is a disposable human male, most often put in harms way to dispose of other human males. I see what you did there.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 11:49 PM
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A donation is something you give without expecting anything in return. Now you can expect child support.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 11:44 PM
0

Is that the rustle of taffeta I hear as the suffragettes turn in their graves? Possibly. I'm such a writing snob. I can't stand this self-indulgent prose.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 11:08 PM
2

Did I say I was a democrat? I don't want to get into the whole "taxes bad!" argument over this, but I'll refer you to point one in terms of redistributing it to women. I feel it's more progressive than the democrats to suggest domestic violence shelters for men. In this way, I feel feminism is pulling them to the right. It's disingenuous to say that anyone was thrilled with Libya, and an egregious mischaracterization that we went in for oil, or that "we" (I assume you mean the U.S) were the ones…
/r/MensRights19/05/11 10:51 PM
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Martin Luther King was a martyr. I know it's not something anyone can ever ask of someone else, but to use those as your reasons is naked cowardice.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 10:34 PM
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I proudly consider myself a progressive and absolutely despise feminism. Come at me, bro.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:43 PM
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You, more than anyone else here, have the opportunity to lead by example. I'm kind of disappointed you feel this way.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:37 PM
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Remember when feminists said that being falsely convicted of rape was a positive experience for the man, because it would give him perspective on how horrible our rape culture was? I do.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:23 PM
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Yesterday, I made a comment about how I wished sexuality were a choice because I prefer the company of gay men over straight women. That made me irrationally uncomfortable. I feel like I'm being silently judged by the "man court" for repeating it now. I fear for my "man card".
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:17 PM
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Feminist MRA's.. uh huh. That will be amusing to watch.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:14 PM
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Oh... uh... my bad, guys. Edit: The more they fight, the more we win.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:58 PM
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Right, as it is now. If it were more fair and temporary, it would have the intended effect of solving the opposite problem: stay at home parents not leaving their spouses out of an inability to provide for themselves.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:56 PM
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That sounds like you want to punish someone for having an easy life during marriage. If it was the arrangement that one person isn't out in the workforce, and all of a sudden the arrangement is dissolved, that person is going to be twisting in the wind. I'm not arguing for lifetime alimony here, I'm saying you shouldn't have to decide between living with a shitty person and living on the street.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:54 PM
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As I upvote you, I'm going to disagree. It should be on a sliding scale determined by the proportion that spouse contributed financially to the marriage and how long the marriage lasted. If one or the other spouse sacrificed their ability to be self-reliant for the sake of the spousal unit as a whole, there should be enough time for him or her to retool.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:33 AM
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I've noticed the posts around here becoming more optimistic. It gives me hope that mainstream culture is starting to shift.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:30 AM
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You're right that there are huge cunt characters out there, but they're invariably explained and vindicated by some deep emotional trauma inflicted upon her in the past by a...
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:27 AM
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They still have some sharp material, but you can tell it's getting watered down (musical numbers/stringing along a gag until they get the 'okay, it's funny again' laugh). I think a lot of the talent moved on to other projects like American Dad.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 09:14 AM
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Shit. Elmo is a champion of rape culture. Teaching children to touch inappropriately and be rewarded with giggles. My god.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:57 AM
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Did someone say damaged goods?
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:54 AM
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Don't hope. It'll make it happen. ;) Activism!
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:46 AM
1

A good real-world parallel, although not quite as 1:1 as baby rape are those snake handling churches.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:42 AM
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I don't like that someone downvoted you for trying to explain the perspective of another, so here's your karma back. The mistake that FG_SF made was to think that there's only one kind of female genital mutilation. It's an honest one, because one of the MSM's weaknesses is nuance and detail. An analogous procedure, removing the clitoral hood, is also illegal and viewed universally as barbaric. It's a difficult double standard to defend.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:37 AM
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Welcome to the troll list. woman-hating morons that post here. Look in the mirror, bigot.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 11:11 PM
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Let's keep lowering taxes on the top 1%, keep capital gains at half the rate of normal income and remove the social safety net!
/r/MensRights18/05/11 11:08 PM
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I'm becoming a huge fan of concealed carry. The solution to fighting off a mob is to take away their feeling of safety in numbers.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 10:50 PM
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Redditor for 2 months and 14 days Comment Karma -104
/r/MensRights18/05/11 10:48 PM
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It's a weird thing to say, and probably stranger to hear, but I wish it were a choice. I enjoy the company of gay men more than I do straight women. I've also met a lot of really cool lesbians. Straight women are... just unsavory characters, more often than not.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 10:34 PM
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50% of the world's countries are not at war.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 10:32 PM
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What reaction was I intended to have to the picture? I didn't really have any.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 08:40 PM
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Sigh. women.timesonline.co.uk Wherein 'Women' = 'Anything to do with gender issues'
/r/MensRights18/05/11 08:23 PM
2

if you're not always positive all the time, you get in trouble. So true, and in so many facets of life.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 08:21 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't live where this will effect you. I've become cynical enough that I don't care what you say you'd do, if you had to choose between your own self-interest and your philosophy.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 08:11 PM
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I'll repeat what I said hypothetically on another thread, but with an actual person as the subject. Alessa should be raped, repeatedly, and never believed by anyone. On top of that, she should have 10 years of her life spent in prison.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 12:11 PM
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possibly more than two genders these days How far do you think nuclear energy has caught on, anyway?
/r/MensRights18/05/11 08:45 AM
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IOnlyLurk ಠ_ಠ Comment Karma:1083
/r/MensRights18/05/11 08:43 AM
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I thought that was a feminist, and therefore a liberal thing. I guess neither side of our great divide wants to own baby killing.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 03:12 AM
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On behalf of liberal MRA's everywhere, fuck that guy.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 02:25 AM
1

I think his comment was more along the lines of "the sky is falling. It collapsed under the weight of the Chinese trade deficit"
/r/MensRights18/05/11 02:23 AM
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Silent downvotes arouse me sexually.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 02:03 AM
1

Hey, look. Women are scorning the epitome of what they created in the last 40 years.
/r/MensRights18/05/11 01:58 AM
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Control over what? They're just flexing the muscles they already have.
/r/MensRights17/05/11 11:22 PM
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Emotionally? I'd like her to be raped and never believed. Legally? 5-10 no parole.
/r/MensRights17/05/11 08:08 PM
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I think he made the right PR move, actually. No one would have cared that she committed assault with a deadly weapon. He slept around. He deserved it. You can't ask anyone besides yourself to be a martyr.
/r/MensRights17/05/11 08:00 PM
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She noted that students could choose to attend universities that do not accept federal funds and are therefore exempt from complying with the bill. Want to learn chemistry without being force-fed feminist propaganda about how all men are rapists, or rape supporters? You better be rich enough to go to a private school, you fucking male.
/r/MensRights17/05/11 07:08 PM
1

For men.
/r/MensRights17/05/11 06:08 PM
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Lighten up? I wasn't really that invested emotionally... Can't I pass judgment on someone still trying to twist the knife on someone a year later?
/r/MensRights17/05/11 06:07 PM
1

a little levity
/r/MensRights17/05/11 08:42 AM
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Yeah. Every relationship should end with an actively pursued vendetta ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights17/05/11 08:31 AM
2

Yeah. I bought in. A lot of it is ingrained. Our causes are always personal, aren't they?
/r/MensRights17/05/11 06:56 AM
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Stop letting modern feminism and the media convince us there's a 'rape culture'. Stop demonizing men, masculinity and male sexuality. Stop raising up women as pure, virtuous victims that can do no wrong and must be protected, always, at any cost.
/r/MensRights17/05/11 06:53 AM
1

The thing that frustrates me, at least, about the MRM/feminism debate is that I don't feel like feel like feminists are even willing to have an honest discussion. You reinforced this.
/r/MensRights17/05/11 06:30 AM
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Don't forget us manboys.
/r/MensRights16/05/11 08:18 PM
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Why risk it...
/r/MensRights16/05/11 08:12 PM
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I'll tell you exactly what the response would be. You could tell him that no doesn't always mean no. Rape.
/r/MensRights16/05/11 07:46 PM
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Dull if fake, hilarious if true.
/r/MensRights16/05/11 08:42 AM
1

Really?
/r/MensRights16/05/11 03:05 AM
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Then you tell us you can’t help it. It’s your nature. It’s how you love. It’s how you desire. It’s how you prove yourselves. WE DON'T SAY THAT. YOU SAY THAT ABOUT US. Couldn't finish the whole thing. Don't think I'm alone. Love the concept. Do a hundred of them.
/r/MensRights16/05/11 02:57 AM
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If you look closely, at the bottom of each comment there are buttons permalink report save source reply If you click on 'reply', it sends a notification to the person you'd like to address, as well as organize your reply into a neat tree format for easy browsing. I see your account says you're a new member. Welcome to reddit! This is one of the hotly contested parts.
/r/MensRights16/05/11 02:28 AM
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Okay. Honest question here. Women's Health is NOT percieved by women has having a homoerotic subtext? The cover photos are not, um, lesbian? I've got no objection to lesbians, but honest-to-God, I thought the lesbianism of Women's Health was a deliberate phenomenon, designed to increase market share. Straight girls buy it for the articles, lesbians buy it for the boobies, YKWIM? I don't know if you're even doing it consciously (I doubt you were, but I'm going to use you to make a point anyway), …
/r/MensRights15/05/11 09:56 PM
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Cue second, longer and more spittle-heavy rant.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 09:01 PM
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Nice, a reasonable post on 2xc. Try to ignore the massively upvoted replies that paint us as misogynistic rapists who keep arguing that some women deserve rape. Or that we just want to silence our opposition to become either dead or zombies only there to provide their sexual fantasies I'm trying to keep this boiling hatred from becoming generalized towards all women. I find I have to put this effort in, now. Thank god for girlwriteswhat. It's not the gender, it's the ideology.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 08:53 PM
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Downvoted for bitching about downvoting after a single downvote.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 08:22 PM
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We seem to be going back and forth between speaking in generalities and speaking about you specifically. It seems like you're deciding when this happens.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 07:16 AM
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I'm somewhat demoralized that 85k/year is your example of a 'compromised' wage...
/r/MensRights15/05/11 05:21 AM
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I don't know. It might be nice to have some fresh ones come around just to make white belt attempts at shaming or converting us. The ones that are still around have progressed though arguing with us to black belt level. Their effortless double standards hidden well under layers of sarcasm and obscurity can render all but the most tempered among us speechless. We have newer MRAs that need sparring practice. Plus it's fun to watch them sputter as they're asked to go further in supporting their cau…
/r/MensRights15/05/11 05:18 AM
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This would only be true if your entire team was held to the same standard regardless of gender. Like the expectation to take forward combat roles? Oh snap, you just undercut your entire argument.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 05:03 AM
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You had me up until 'educate yourself and get some morals'. It sounded suspiciously like "You're a bad person if you disagree with me".
/r/MensRights15/05/11 04:59 AM
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In these past seven years I've quite often overheard my female superiors saying they'd want to f**k my brains out and what they would do with me, if we were alone. I can't imagine how uncomfortable I would be, if I could even convince myself to keep showing up. I've been wanting to get out of the 'be your own boss' commission only world I seem to be stuck in... but as shitty as it is, the other side of the fence seems even worse.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 04:58 AM
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What's funny is that it won't be the end of ladies night. The law will be selectively enforced.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 04:48 AM
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He talked back and she had authority. Nothing more need be said.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 04:12 AM
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I think this is a wonderful opportunity to make the point that local news crews ARE ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. Douche-chilly puns (disGRUNTled!) and that attempt at improv at the end. Thank goodness there's an internet.
/r/MensRights15/05/11 04:06 AM
1

A lot of feminists encourage men to start speaking up for themselves wat... ...and report when they have been raped. Oh. Right, right. Either way, I do think at least the new wave feminist realizes intoxication=lack of consent. This is one of the many reasons to openly hate third wave feminism. The guy in the story was conscious and resisting, wanting it to end the entire time. Alcohol's part to play was to weaken his ability to prevent the rape from occurring, not to cloud his judgment into giv…
/r/MensRights15/05/11 03:39 AM
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I couldn't disagree more. Men AND women should be allowed places where they can socialize without the influence of the opposite gender. Especially if, in mixed company, there are going to be restrictive rules on how people are allowed to express themselves. Edit: your point is well taken in terms of the military.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 10:51 PM
1

To an extent, I believe my tax dollars going to fund something called "The Department of Justice" means I shouldn't have a responsibility to protect myself from injustice. It should be a given that no powerful institution is going to fuck me over.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 10:24 PM
2

It seems it's really hard for humans to envision two overlapping bell curves and the real world consequences of them.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 10:20 PM
2

I find myself reexamining my views on drunk-rape after reading that. I think the salient details in my mind were that 1) he remembered everything 2) he made repeated moves to stop it, and 3) as it was happening, he wanted it to stop. If ever I hear these things from the mouth of a female rape victim and don't feel for her, I'll acknowledge being a hypocrite.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 10:18 PM
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there are men (feminist or not) that share the idea that women are victims and men are villains when it comes to mutual intoxication. That shouldn't be surprising at all. Men are indoctrinated in school and culture the exact same way women are towards feminism and gender relations. That's why there's such a 'blue pill' vibe to the movement. ...I hope I just made the correct Matrix reference instead of a boner pill one...
/r/MensRights14/05/11 10:04 PM
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I've heard of girls on campuses going into situations with the premeditated objective of intoxicating [my friend] in order to sleep with him, where he normally wouldn't. That's conspiracy to commit rape. His, my and the rest of the world's response: 'meh'.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 10:01 PM
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You came to /MR looking for an unreasonable discussion? Color me surprised... Maybe start by cutting the misogynist propaganda? Once again, I am stunned by how tightly you keep to the topic at hand. Focus like a laser. Misogyny is a cultural taboo. Misandry is encouraged or ignored. You're reaching and it's pathetic. I'm sorry you weren't born in the 1950's when you could have been pushing in the right direction for equality.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 09:58 PM
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The GOP is the party of 'sentencing is always too lax' and 'punishment, not rehabilitation'. They're the party of prison rape, basically. One of the main problems with the MRM is that none of our issues have really been adopted by anyone with political power. The fear being that they would lose that power.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 09:52 PM
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As women, we demand to be included in these male only spaces and be treated like equals. As women, now that we're in your previously-male only spaces, we demand that you no longer act as if you're still in a male only space. the language does create an uncomfortable environment even if the woman is a good sport and puts up with it. I remember when minding your own business and not demanding people act the way you'd like them to, just for the sake of your own personal taste, was valued in society…
/r/MensRights14/05/11 09:35 PM
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Lastly, the "pussy pass"? Do you honestly thing crude slang like that is going to help the cause? Feminism. We care more about controlling language and thoughtcrime than actual inequalities or victimization. Go screw. your comment seems to imply that criminal "male behavior" is natural. It is most certainly NOT. Attitudes like that are dehumanizing to men. How nice of you to think about the mens. My rebuttal: You've made natural male behavior criminal. Failed attempts at courting are now (if the…
/r/MensRights14/05/11 09:28 PM
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Nothing can make us look worse in the eyes of feminists. First and most egregious, we're male. And then we have the audacity in this subreddit...
/r/MensRights14/05/11 09:16 PM
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So rape in prison is as bad a problem as feminists claim rape in college to be. I suppose because it's because they sent all the frat boys to prison.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 09:12 PM
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Not even a slight one. You tried to make the point that men can intentionally [fuck] up a woman's life that... has no negative consequences by claiming you can make her fall in love with you and then break her heart (Awww!!!) I just made the clarification that women can do all of this, in addition to claiming rape and abuse, getting you thrown in prison for said abuse... where you'll be subject to things that weren't just made up for a court docket. These are the relative abilities of our gender…
/r/MensRights14/05/11 09:10 PM
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Redditor for 4 months, comment karma -22.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 09:04 PM
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The elephant in the room, twat who's not even attempting a reasonable conversation from the outset, is that men are percieved as dangers around children, and women are perceived as the only thing they're safe around. How are you going to disrupt damaging cultural assumptions about your gender if you don't give counter examples?
/r/MensRights14/05/11 08:56 PM
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liztuu4 has been a redditor for about as long as THIS post... playing with puppets to cause drama between subreddits?
/r/MensRights14/05/11 08:54 PM
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Did you have a CCTV camera in my house during childhood?
/r/MensRights14/05/11 08:49 PM
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Her bun in the oven wasn't quite done.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 08:47 PM
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(see: the recent MRA attack on trans privacy rights for another example) You mean the one where people from /tfp came and solicited our opinions? I suppose you equate 'trans privacy rights' to 'having no obligation to disclose to your sexual partners'. I'll thank you to be more explicit next time, because I think you might have accidentally oversimplified the beliefs of someone you disagree with. You'd never do that, would you?
/r/MensRights14/05/11 08:46 PM
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What value do you believe your opinion has? You, who always interprets something ambiguous to the most simplistic confirmation of your own beliefs. How was I to tell the difference between a sarcastic MR troll saying what an intellectually lazy feminist would say, or the actual intellectually lazy feminist troll? I'll answer. If the idiot feminist troll had fleshed out her beliefs or explained her position (instead of dropping a snarky line like the turd it was), I would have been able to tell. …
/r/MensRights14/05/11 08:16 PM
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And who populated the city of repressed virgins? Who are the characters that are sexually powerful? I hate to defend an example like this, as I was hoping it could just be an example rather than singular proof of the phenomenon. The other alternative would to write out a self post with a few paragraphs of ranty observation. I guess we can just go back to talking about family courts again.
/r/MensRights14/05/11 12:02 AM
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Nothing like a knee-jerk reaction to let me know I'm dealing with a child. My original comment was to illuminate that it's impossible to tell what your point was underneath your caustic, useless sarcasm. Please stop posting. You add nothing.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 09:55 PM
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That link just confuses me. Do you understand what the artist/writer is going for?
/r/MensRights13/05/11 09:50 PM
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It's not as easy to post a box set of Frasier. Your point is well taken; this is just the thing that caused the thought. Plus, if I went with something that was subtle, we would argue about the specifics in the example instead of the point I'm trying to make.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 09:29 PM
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You have to pick little flecks of moist toilet paper from your vagina after you pee, women. You're not better than me because you have one. With the messages I received since the womb from culture and society, it took me over 20 years to reach this epiphany. I feel like our gynocentric culture deserves more of a discussion here.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 08:43 PM
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Better lurk, and occasionally make detracting, contentless comments
/r/MensRights13/05/11 07:45 PM
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I can't tell if you're a double sarcastic MR troll, or simply a monosarcastic feminist troll.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 07:28 PM
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It's not implicit. They've explicitly said that rape happens because 'normal' guys perpetuate a 'rape culture'. We don't feel ashamed enough for being men and we don't shame each other enough for being masculine.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 07:26 PM
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Trigger Warning: ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights13/05/11 06:58 PM
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That's the difference between crying in bed over a weekend and getting raped by a guard in prison because you couldn't keep up on child support after losing your job.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 06:51 PM
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I thought this subreddit was about mens-rights, not a universal social reform. It seems that one would follow the other. It also explains why we get so many detractors.
/r/MensRights12/05/11 07:44 PM
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Since it seems you're new here, I'll be the first to inform you that "/s" denotes sarcasm. Fuckwit.
/r/MensRights12/05/11 07:52 AM
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Why do old fashioned words for sexually indiscriminate women make them sound like delicious pastries?
/r/MensRights12/05/11 07:49 AM
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This wasn't even a particularly good argument, either in ferocity or reasoned insight. It just ended in an M. Night. Shamawhatever moment where I realized you were trolling her by trolling me by tricking me into reading that drivel.
/r/MensRights12/05/11 07:36 AM
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These threads are usually good for a few lunatic feminist posts
/r/MensRights12/05/11 07:22 AM
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Ah, but you're forgetting: the boy wanted it. /s
/r/MensRights12/05/11 07:06 AM
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Tucker Max is a fictional character in a series of short stories by an author of the same name.
/r/MensRights12/05/11 03:34 AM
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I like the 'butthurt' response. It's a step in the right direction. You're tacitly agreeing that all these things are true, you're just saying 'man up and don't complain about it'. One mental step away from not being disposable.
/r/MensRights11/05/11 07:59 PM
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Downvoted for arguing against something I did not say. I don't have the patience to correct you AND repeat myself. Read it again.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 07:15 PM
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I guarantee you that information isn't saved in police reports.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 07:09 PM
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Not condescending, editorializing. How could men ever be discriminated against?
/r/MensRights10/05/11 07:02 PM
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I genuinely feel that, at least in race relations, we have a sense of paternalism... towards the black community especially. I wish I could get onto that mental gear right now, but essentially I believe as you do, just with the perception that 'superior' came before 'obligated'. We care because we're better.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 06:56 PM
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-Brings up the old holding the door open observation-
/r/MensRights10/05/11 06:52 PM
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I wouldn't but the news themselves would. They would absolutely not mention it, even if they were giving a description of the fleeing fugitives. Blacks' skin color is only mentioned if they're the victims, and only then if the assailant was white. There's already a problem along the lines you're pointing out, it's just on the opposite end. The part of liberalism that still feels superior to some people, and is compelled to protect 'the incapable, inferior women and minorities'.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 06:48 PM
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The problem I have with this isn't that it's sexist or violent towards either gender. I'd hate to see that kind of humor become taboo. My problem is that it's not even in the context of an attempt at humor. It's just a list of things women would like to inflict on men.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 06:38 PM
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I see a difference. Your joke was a play on how male genitles look like the things you might make an omellette out of, and thus you're bakin' babies. Completely harmless and dull. The above joke is basically "bashing men in the head and burying them in shallow graves is hilarious! It has no cleverness or angle to it. Pointing out shit like this has a place here, since our rape culture has forbidden us from having similar bits of humor about girls. They however, can do it to us without even the p…
/r/MensRights10/05/11 06:36 PM
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I just don't feel it can be defined as "mistakenly having sex with a man thinking it's a woman." ... How about "mistakenly having sex with a post-operative transwoman thinking she was born biologically female"? Because "man" has one syllable and "post-operative transwoman" has seven. The latter is an unnecessary specification of the thing I have a problem with. I don't give the courtesy because it was never asked of me. It was never presented as "Hey, I was born a man identifying as a woman, so …
/r/MensRights10/05/11 01:16 AM
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p.s. downvoting this doesn't change the fact that the statement is true. Women do not vote in a 'women's issues' block. The trends are much more drawn along party lines.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 09:23 PM
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I figure it helps the camp of refugees more that way
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:54 PM
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I suppose a married spouse has no right not to be cheated on and divorced. People can do things that are morally repugnant but do not violate anyone's rights. The problem I have is with the entitled arrogance that says you owe them nothing. The idea that a trans woman is really a man, or that a trans man is really a woman is not one that we accept as true You don't get to decide that for anyone but yourself. Such disgusting arrogance.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:51 PM
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But male sexuality is pretty fucking repressed. I'm not going to disagree, but I'm getting pretty sick of hearing this because people have sexual orientations, and this is inconvenient for transsexuals. It seems like the case is being made that I'm bigoted for having 'an issue' with the idea of mistakenly having sex with a man thinking it's a woman.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:36 PM
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Which rights & privileges do men have today in the US which women don't? According to our fairer subreddits, being able to reach high things is a male privilege that should be weighed against selective service in finding true equality.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:15 PM
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More valuable than the other... that you can afford to put in front of flying bullets.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:08 PM
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Is there one that switches them with a fish on the bottom of the ocean?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 08:04 PM
1

I'm wondering if you understood that I made that comment to describe the spirit your previous comment would be received.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 12:15 AM
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We're starting to blur the line between me perhaps not being able to explain my point of view adequately and you intentionally misrepresenting me. The comment you quoted wasn't popular culture speaking, it's me. The context I was making it in was the reaction of a purely heterosexual man discovering he has unwittingly had sex with another man made up to look like a woman. Do you disagree with the comment? Does the range of reaction not go from 'mild discomfort' to 'pleading temporary insanity'?
/r/MensRights09/05/11 12:03 AM
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Popular culture and the media are a mirror to how people think, not to how things are. This was a discussion about how people think.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:45 PM
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Downvoted for balls. I don't like balls.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:24 PM
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I didn't downvote it, but the thought I immediately had was "Didn't we just have one of these a week ago?"
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:23 PM
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Do you go to a party and loudly announce to everyone in the room "You're all going to dislike me, and that makes you jerks!"?
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:22 PM
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Sexually? I'm going to assume we're talking about post-op, as the alternative, I think, can be taken on faith. I would say the vast majority of men self identify as purely heterosexual. I would go further to say that the majority of them are correct. Of those, a vanishing minority would be comfortable with the thought of having sex with someone they knew to be born a man. The rest are going to be on a range between 'uncomfortable secret' to 'violent vomiting and revenge slaying'. It is what it i…
/r/MensRights08/05/11 11:19 PM
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To interact with as an equal person? You're right, absolutely. To have as a sexual partner? You're daft. edit: I may be confused, because I thought your statement was regarding the latter.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 10:38 PM
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Nope - the "vast majority" of men are not that shallow when it comes to their partners. Step out of yourself and what you want to be true. It's not. You're a fetish. You're making the exact same argument morbidly obese women make. They are as well a fetish. Sorry.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 10:26 PM
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I came off an assembly line.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:57 PM
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My insecurities have nothing to do with the overwhelming hate for my gender that is often expressed in this subreddit. A reddit where nearly every post will have at least one person claiming that all women are just terrible and stupid creatures that were born to trick men out of their hard earned money. I'm glad you feel comfortable enough to misrepresent an entire subreddit full of people with the most banal, tired stereotype that's ever floated around about it. There's no one who won't roll th…
/r/MensRights08/05/11 08:05 PM
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You're too incensed to use your brain when talking to people about this subject. if I just said transpeople were wicked, deceitful, mentally ill self-mutilators who jump through complicated and expensive... Now you're acting like a child.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 07:55 PM
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This is just bickering. The title is misleading: The guy is nice. He just really liked a scene in a movie where a guy slaps a woman, and for some reason in that context, they immediately start having sex. The awful sexual bores over in 2xc naturally went apeshit over the slapping > sex > violence against women angle. Those hens, as anyone else would, had no doubt this made him a rape-minded future wife-beater that should be publicly shamed and beaten. It's what they do. The mere thought that in …
/r/MensRights08/05/11 06:34 AM
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That's just your tendency to look for fresh, exciting ways you're being victimized by the patriarchy. That, or you're just projecting onto me your own insecurities about being able to express your points of view. I hate for the idiosyncratic reasons listed above as well as the previous making political hay over the death of Osama Bin Laden. It was just a good day for anyone who's not fond of suicide bombings.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 06:11 AM
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To impose my will I define what gender is mean0dean0 on reddit.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 06:02 AM
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Noun-verb agreement is not taboo in this art. Learn what OP means
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:56 AM
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Dummy plays along. Throws out cliche from joke book. What else ya got, sport?
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:50 AM
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Meathead zealot rants. Cannot comprehend others. Hears own opinion.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:47 AM
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Comma error found. To be polite, I ignore. Jerk can fuck off, though.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:43 AM
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Blunt object swings hard. Without opening ones eyes, you throw out your back.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:41 AM
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Oh no you don't. You can't just casually toss out the idea that I'm perpetuating some cause, then run away when I ask what conspiracy I'm taking part in. Explain to me what organized movement I'm involved in that's oppressing you, testicle-twat.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:40 AM
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I like you. You're smart enough to write up long posts with lots of words, but you're too dumb to catch the meanings those words are used for. The point about the homicide was to bring your attention to the emotional damage these confused gentlemen cause with their deception by omission.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:36 AM
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Chef microwaves eggs. Then asks where I learned to cook. Eggs are sarcasm.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:33 AM
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You're never going to be able to socratically turn a man into a woman, just as you're never going to be able to surgically. It's a tragedy that a minute proportion of men (and even smaller minority of women) are born with minds that cannot reconcile with their natural gender. There's no reason to deny them the freedom of self-identifying as whatever they want, or having surgery to look more like a whatever. That's where it ends. I have no reason, and you have no influence over me, to call a conf…
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:23 AM
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What moderators? What cause? Daft loon.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:11 AM
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And this is the first time I've actually looked at reddit in about 2 or 3 weeks. Nice to meet you. Instead of letting me go along thinking it was a topic you merely had an interest in, you feel the need to inform me that you actually ended a near-month long reddit fast to engage in this discussion. Wow, you sure showed me. those that outwardly discriminate people based on their gender identity. Depending on how you qualify that, you and I will never have a problem with each other.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:08 AM
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Hah. This conversation can't go two rounds without you trying to turn it around into an attack on the masculinity of the people who disagree with you. I wonder where else I've seen such dishonest, underhanded tactics...
/r/MensRights08/05/11 05:04 AM
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Your quoted text is my mocking your point of view. edit: lampooning, really. much like revealing oneself to be gay was and still is in some backwa... In the moments before sex, the sexual partner of this closeted homosexual is reasonably likely to already know he's of the same gender. False analogy. especially when there is no upside to having the knowledge--either you're fucking the same person as you were before, or you can't accept that you're fucking the same person as you were before. This …
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:48 AM
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Don't reply to my comments if you have nothing to say in reply to them. Make a new thread if you're going to start a new thought.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:46 AM
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Exhibit A: "Most guys... <this is what I want most guys to think, because if they do, I'm not doing anything wrong by deceiving them>" Exhibit B: Spending your time on message boards shaming and bemoaning how guys don't actually think like that.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:44 AM
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You should become the president of a non-profit. Even when you know someone is making an exaggeration to absurdity to make a point, you're still self-righteous enough to say they should go to therapy.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:38 AM
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It's called inference. It comes from knowing what verbal ticks represent in actual conversation. In typography, they're snobbish, passive aggressive cues one would use if they were incapable of expressing these feelings with words as an intelligent adult would. I know I can't reduce the scope of human intelligence into a single word. However, I'm dealing with a dullard who used the phrase 'scope of human intelligence' as if she were the oracle that possessed it. You're just not an intelligent en…
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:35 AM
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I have made this room full of mustard gas APPEAR like a poolside cabana with an open bar. You clearly are not exclusively attracted to breathable air because my trickery has made you attracted to what you thought was poison.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:20 AM
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Such entitlement over other people's emotions. I'm not saying there can't be morally good trans people... but if what you've described is the norm, they truly are deplorable, selfish sociopaths.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:18 AM
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quit being so uptight about sex Adopt my sexuality. You are not entitled to your own range of comfort. Your sexual self-image is not as important as the risk of rejection I might take by telling you what my actual gender is.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:10 AM
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Grow the fuck up and realize sex is not all about you, you nincompoop. Naturally. It's about the liar who gets to go around challenging people's sexual identities, blissfully ignorant of the emotions of these people (if not overtly scornful [bitter] that they have such well defined sexualities). try being a pre-op transman, going out to pick up chicks when you don't even have a dick. Imagine being a woman... trying to pick up... women? Why wouldn't I just ask a lesbian? who think people don't ha…
/r/MensRights08/05/11 04:06 AM
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The person who needed to have surgery to make themselves look like the opposite gender they were born certainly has zero issues relative to unwitting fellow with an overly rigid sexuality.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 03:55 AM
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A woman is a woman I love how platitudes like this can find their way into a discussion about gender swapping.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 03:53 AM
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Black grandparent = 1/4 black Post op tranny = 1/1 male. Also, your example would be to say that people can have a natural, healthy dislike for a race as one would a sexual orientation.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 03:52 AM
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calling trans people unreal and refusing to recognise their own gender is nasty and needlessly cruel The act of not indulging someone in their delusions is neutral. Shaming people into calling a man with surgery and hormones a woman is not.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 03:41 AM
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MR is bad when it comes to that, but not as bad as feminism by a long shot. The gender dysmorphia community, called so out of irritation with them, is in another league altogether.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 03:33 AM
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you should seek out a professional psychotherapist, even if you're just kidding. Grow up.
/r/MensRights08/05/11 03:27 AM
2

So it's not 1/4 women? It's 1/3000 people!?
/r/MensRights07/05/11 09:14 PM
1

This point should be more prominent, as it's why the case is so relevant.
/r/MensRights07/05/11 09:11 PM
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I'm always comforted by the knowledge that the day I and every other man in the world start acting like a female, I'll be equal.
/r/MensRights07/05/11 09:07 PM
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Your RES tag identifies you as someone who types "umm" as if it were a word. This lets me know you'll never have anything approaching intelligent to say.
/r/MensRights07/05/11 07:36 PM
1

rape is a subjective term, one that women must use to draw attention to other, nonviolent, even nonsexual forms of oppression. Well that's crazy, but it's only a 16 year old girl who was raped. She won't be taken seriously by anyone (at least until she ranks up in the movement). Catherine Comins, assistant dean of student life at Vassar, also sees some value in this loose use of "rape." Time sure flies...
/r/MensRights05/05/11 09:46 PM
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whos life has been used to divide people politically It's okay because people did it before you. I should have expected this considering feminism's views on sexism.
/r/MensRights05/05/11 07:33 PM
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I think this is the best point I've seen made here in quite a while.
/r/MensRights05/05/11 03:10 AM
1

Once again, the wars != the manhunt.
/r/MensRights04/05/11 09:03 PM
0

Fuck you trying to make a left vs. right issue out of this.
/r/MensRights04/05/11 08:40 PM
1

The more we find out about his activities and involvement in Al Queda up until the day he died, the less Osama's death is shown to be a hollow victory. Fuck. Even if they had to storm a Tibetan monastery to find a repentant and peaceful Osama Bin Laden, killing him dead on the spot would be the furthest thing from 'hollow'. Hollow describes the souls of the survivors that have been waiting for this to happen for 10 years. Hollow because his actions took it from them with an ice cream scoop.
/r/MensRights04/05/11 08:40 PM
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I consider marriage to be a religious thing. If there's a church that has a good attitude about gays and will marry them, I'm all for it. If either gays or straight want to get into that kind of contract, that's fine too. I'd just like the two to be separate.
/r/MensRights04/05/11 01:48 AM
1

Have your ceremony and make your promises. Do they need to be enforced by the state to be sincere?
/r/MensRights03/05/11 10:28 PM
2

There's a difference between incorporating it and having nothing else to show. One of your main points was pointing out a grammar error. You discarded the only detail in the story as irrelevant. You're either a troll or you're chasing a premise. Either way you're intellectually lazy and not worth the effort of a serious response. You're flagged.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:59 PM
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What's the difference between marriage and living happily together with the person you love for the rest of your life, having children and retiring together? A financial contract.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:54 PM
1

Itemized receipts are incredibly reasonable. You'd go through the trouble to deduct what you can from taxes, wouldn't you? Just keeping the receipts from things you spent on the child is an effortless exercise. For a system that forces men into indentured servitude under the guise of providing for the child, to allow a woman to take that money and use them on comforts for herself isn't just a crime, it's a sin. Save your time arguing this point, you won't get anywhere. Don't care about 2. If som…
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:49 PM
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the most "enlightened," radical progressive I wish I could self identify as 'progressive' or 'liberal' without taking on all of this extra crap I don't believe in. Stupid racial/gender quotas and PC censorship. I suppose it's still better than the morally baptist 'starve the beast' right.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:33 PM
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"Spinster" is the guy at the discotheque who plays the phonograph records.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:29 PM
1

Spoiled self indulgence and a sense of self worth so elevated that they can easily dehumanize anyone they don't feel is 'equal' to them.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:27 PM
1

Your caustic, sarcastic tone was what gave you away, troll. I don't have the need for your kind of aggravation in my life right now.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:24 PM
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Wanting assurance != making an accusation. MR has always been against paternity fraud, and is very familiar with the arguments "it doesn't happen enough to justify it" and "zomg you hate women so you don't trust me". The prevalence of paternity fraud has been quantified and discussed on these boards. Take a look around. It's not "the extreme minority". Women get pretty good proof they were the biological mother after all. Seems like denying men that would be protecting a female privilege. (oh, r…
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:18 PM
1

Anyone ever have a jilted ex wife... with a NAVY?
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:09 PM
1

Rolls eyes, starves troll
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:07 PM
5

This is now my canned response
/r/MensRights03/05/11 07:05 PM
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I was privileged to attend one of the few American universities with a proactive attitude towards assault. Wow, I didn't know a college campus that took a serious interest in rape existed! Finally!
/r/MensRights03/05/11 06:57 PM
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Not all of us have the superhuman ability to objectively know what happened in a story told second hand. By someone married to the idea of universal female victimization. The detail that has me disagree with you (I actually have a reason, instead of scornful assurance) was that her clothes were neatly folded. Did her attacker politely fold them so she wouldn't wear wrinkled clothes? Did her attacker pause his violent assault long enough to let her fold them herself? It's silly to be so assured o…
/r/MensRights03/05/11 06:52 PM
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Calling her on her reputation is one of those things people will catch us on as victim blaming. What's more telling to me is that she woke up next to this 'attacker' who neatly folded her clothes for her (or paused in his violent rape long enough for her to do it herself). It's not even a 50/50 split in my mind that this was drunken blackout sex. The word 'rape' is further watered down today. Feminists are rape homeopaths. I can't express just how much that idea amuses me. Water down the idea of…
/r/MensRights03/05/11 06:46 PM
4

Losing!
/r/MensRights03/05/11 06:35 PM
1

it is not possible to argue against logic. To put it another way, you cannot reason against reasoning, because the very attempt to do so involves the (attempted) use of reason. This man does not believe intelligent people can disagree intelligently. I have a big problem with that.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 04:05 AM
1

And don't any of you dare try to tie this in with feminism in any way!
/r/MensRights03/05/11 04:02 AM
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I love silly trolls.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 03:55 AM
1

All six of the movies were for kids. You liked the first (IV-VI) three because you were probably a kid when you saw them. Kids that grew up with I-III feel the exact opposite way. I believe that was his argument. He's a reasonable, smart guy. Especially with film.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 03:53 AM
0

Love the false dichotomy there, sport.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 03:50 AM
1

Here of all places? Once again, gentlemen. The Osama manhunt != the wars. They have very little to do with each other, barring the bullshit justification our lying leadership at the time used.
/r/MensRights03/05/11 03:47 AM
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To clarify, I was speaking of the entire worldwide movement of feminism. They are ideologically opposed to giving us an inch while we have miles ahead of us. As far as the subreddit goes, I'm just going to ignore it like everyone else always has. Let it rot and dwindle.
/r/MensRights30/04/11 08:03 PM
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The feminists were correct in pretty much everything they were saying against kloo being a mod. It's just a shame none of them could open their ears and minds to any other side than their own. The subreddit could have been something we've never seen before.
/r/MensRights30/04/11 07:50 PM
2

I'm quick to give up on civil conversation and fall to my own frustration. I err more towards conversation than debate, and while I will take time to skim through someone's arguments, I will only rarely take the time (usually nearly an hour) to reply in kind. I am by no means a role model to follow. I'm just a follower of this among other causes, and divide my time between it and trying to make something of my life. That's not to say I don't want my opinion to be as respected as anyone else will…
/r/MensRights30/04/11 07:48 PM
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Surprise, surprise. You finally succeed. You finally get me to waste my time talking into the wall you call yourself and put effort into making a point. Of course you don't reply, you FUCKING TROLL. I can't believe I gave you the deference to actually engage you. Back and forth we went, you stubbornly being a cunt, and me making a compromise with myself between the satisfaction of not letting you be an influential idiot, and actually spending my time usefully. Well I guess I'm the idiot now. Tro…
/r/MensRights30/04/11 03:44 AM
1

It's kind of my outlet of expression over the whole "Kloo2yoo is a feminist moderator for a day" saga. I'm surprised that didn't get down modded for being overly trite.
/r/MensRights30/04/11 03:26 AM
0

Hey look, it's the bigotry apologist who's raising the biggest stink over kloo being a mod of /feminism. I wonder what the high-minded, egalitarian motivation was the rationale for this post?
/r/MensRights30/04/11 12:56 AM
2

Feminism is a movement where you can: Claim every single person in the world is one of you (All women are feminists! All men are feminists because they benefit from feminism too!) Claim anyone who makes you look bad is not one of you (REAL feminists say/don't say... nafalt) Claim all good things good and disavow all things bad (feminism IS equality! Gays) Claim any group not supportive of yours must be against all of the good things you've already claimed (You can't be for equality because femin…
/r/MensRights29/04/11 11:07 PM
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Idiot that doesn't understand words, stop lecturing me as if you have knowledge or perspective that I don't. Your claims aren't supported by your evidence, and shouting doesn't translate over text. You can be dismissive and ambivalent towards truth as you'd like. I'm still going to rub your nose in the shit you pass off. It pains me to even return to the argument we're having. All I want to do is shame you for your pomposity: If you're too dumb to see that these are simple sentences that clearly…
/r/MensRights29/04/11 10:38 PM
-1

There were four sentences, none of which had a 'simple' noun-verb structure. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised you hadn't read your own quoted link. You didn't know what it said, after all.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 09:47 PM
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Your link said something. I said what the link said. You reply by saying 'No, it didn't say that. It said what I told you it said before you had a chance to read it. How can someone be justified saying the words I put into their mouth?' I pity your family for carrying your blood.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 09:31 PM
1

As it was, so it will be.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 09:16 PM
1

That comment describes a range from "actively man-hating" to "indifferent towards mens problems in the face of womens advantages" He didn't say they were "all" on one side of the spectrum.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 09:12 PM
0

I don't understand how people can do it around here. Last week I made a three sentence reply to a single point from one of those college essay-style posts... it seemed like ten minutes later, I had a FRESH essay to read and argue about, beginning with the claim 90% of DV is man on woman.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 09:05 PM
0

I like watching feminists argue their core principles against someone that doesn't take it as gospel. It's like the last scene in The Wizard of Oz.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 08:59 PM
1

Exactly. All affermative action is doing is trying to hide systemic problems by making it so they don't matter. Ignore the community being ravaged by drugs, gangs and poverty. They have a proportionally equal number of college admissions. Problem solved!
/r/MensRights29/04/11 08:31 PM
2

People that don't know things offhand like this are signs the movement's growing.There's no need to make them feel foolish.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 08:14 PM
2

I guess it's not traumatic for a child to be molested by someone named Rockytriton?
/r/MensRights29/04/11 08:10 PM
1

Upvote for 'Zot'
/r/MensRights29/04/11 06:33 AM
3

Is it unintuitive that an attractive man can be a rapist? Of course not. That's who Lifetime casts to BE the rapist! Attractive male: woman rapist. Ugly male: child rapist That's why men don't wear makeup. We want to look 'decent'.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 07:36 PM
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evolutionary psychology... the best weapons we have Oh dear lord, save us.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 07:18 PM
1

Yes, as unintuitive as the thought may be, attractive women can be rapists.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:57 PM
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I'm glad I could help! The word itself is actually what brought me here. I heard someone on the radio use it while talking about how men are portrayed negatively in media (since we're the last group that you get away with doing it to...). I got frusterated when I searched google for 'misandry' and received results for 'misogyny'. Eventually the search took me to /mensrights and reddit.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:52 PM
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Misogyny is to women as misandry is to men. Don't be thrown by how spell-check and the world around you tell you one doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:43 PM
1

I think they're smart enough to know they're not going to change women's attitudes overnight just by requiring equality of outcome. I cynically believe that this is just an attempt to find a wedge issue, something to show women are getting a short end of a stick somewhere. They want a rallying cause for their bloated, uncoordinated movement.
/r/MensRights27/04/11 06:17 PM
3

I'm willing to allow it just to add the word 'semengate' to my vocabulary. OPEN THE SEMENGATE
/r/MensRights26/04/11 08:46 PM
3

You took the wrong lesson from the Milgram experiment. It didn't show innate violence. Most of the subjects that went as far as to use the highest shock values were in conflicted agony over the act. They did it despite their better nature. The experiment showed people could be made to do horrific things if put in the right situation. If you make someone feel they're required to follow instruction, they will mentally cede control of the situation and defer their own responsibility. The Stanford e…
/r/MensRights26/04/11 08:02 PM
0

This is the funniest thing I've seen all day. Cliffor takes the throne.
/r/MensRights25/04/11 07:23 PM
1

EDIT: I've started reading the username before I even think to post here.
/r/MensRights25/04/11 07:05 PM
1

Remember, it's sexual assault to touch a woman with anything but the back of your hand anywhere above the elbow. Looking at them is still a gray area, but we're fighting hard for YOU.
/r/MensRights25/04/11 06:58 PM
0

I hope this isn't a picture of one of my posts... ... Oh... meh.
/r/MensRights25/04/11 06:41 PM
2

What is this supposed to be? Something you can link later from another account to prove MR is all just grown boys with mommy issues?
/r/MensRights24/04/11 10:31 PM
2

I want more than even that. A woman has the right to say if her genes are passed on to the next generation. In your 'financial abortion' I'm still being forced against my will to reproduce.
/r/MensRights24/04/11 09:22 PM
1

those doing the forcing should justly remunerate the women for their lost productivity. Womb rent! ...Mom?
/r/MensRights23/04/11 05:48 AM
1

Simply as a matter of fact, quite nearly 100% of the victims of domestic violence are women. The fact that you think this, and the smugness with which you pass it off as fact... I stopped reading because I have a feeling all you had after that were similar false talking points.
/r/MensRights23/04/11 12:31 AM
2

I didn't mean it that way. I meant to say it was odd that it be posted here first, or exclusively.
/r/MensRights20/04/11 08:45 PM
2

If we had an all female society, female mortality would skyrocket. I dare say they would make up at least 55% of the deaths!
/r/MensRights20/04/11 07:24 PM
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Why did you post this to the MR sub rather than a TBGL one?
/r/MensRights20/04/11 07:06 PM
1

Women only got reproductive rights by virtue of arguing personal body integrity. I can't wait until we can grow an embryo in a test tube from a zygote. At that point, it won't be the woman's body; it'll be the child's body... and if they want to have reproductive rights, they'll have to come up with a separate justification that won't be able to exclude men.
/r/MensRights20/04/11 06:40 PM
3

The non-word 'um' is a verbal tick people generally use because they haven't developed the sentence they want to say in their mind yet. If anyone uses it in typed language, they are irredeemably an idiot. No excuses, no exceptions. They use it because of the 'cunt attitude' that's become associated with the tick. They want you to know they're speaking to you with a cunty attitude.
/r/MensRights20/04/11 06:23 PM
1

Stopped reading after 100% of domestic violence victims are women. You're an idiot. Conversation over.
/r/MensRights20/04/11 06:16 PM
1

Well after all, language itself is being used against us. That's how entrenched radical feminism is.
/r/MensRights20/04/11 05:51 AM
1

They didn't ratify the equal rights amendment because it would do what it said on the label: give men and women equality in written law. That means women would have to register for the draft. The backlash was from the feminists. It's my experience that feminists would generally much rather lobby congress for money going to womens shelters, then deny their use to anyone who is male. I don't have to show they're a politically cohesive unit. All I have to show is that they all identify as feminist,…
/r/MensRights19/04/11 09:37 PM
3

look beyond the crime for the root causes Surprisingly, you'll always find your pet cause was the problem.
/r/MensRights19/04/11 07:44 PM
1

The point being that, if I were to make any stab at you, it would be that I think you are attacking your own personal conception of feminism, which is not particularly representative of the actual state thereof. Similarly, you are defending your own personal conception of feminism. I could argue that you couldn't tell what a bulldozer does from the inside of the cabin, but be very aware if you're on the rain-forest floor. I'll go back to using republicans as an example. The 2001-2008 vintage. Th…
/r/MensRights19/04/11 07:27 PM
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Remember, folks. Feminists like this don't exist and have no influence on laws or culture, because the feminists that will come in here aren't like that.
/r/MensRights19/04/11 06:55 PM
3

In soviet gender, feet walk on you!
/r/MensRights19/04/11 06:53 PM
4

women will talk trash about their men to anyone Without regard to if he's standing right next to her...
/r/MensRights19/04/11 06:43 PM
1

That's the case of mistaken identity one. They're all really confusing. It doesn't seem like a second draft to me.
/r/MensRights18/04/11 08:56 PM
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502 it went through 504 try once more
/r/MensRights18/04/11 08:48 PM
1

Discussion and compromise is the only way to go, I agree completely. I was only referring to feminists as a united political front in terms of their impact on social policy. Even with a multi-party system, there's still a 50%+1 bar that you have to make coalitions to get over. My observation is that the many shades of feminists create a coalition when needed, and segment to their various facets throughout society when not. sorry if this is a worn out conversation. I'm a bit new to this sub It ce…
/r/MensRights18/04/11 08:42 PM
0

This article seemed to go along the lines of this: James T. Kirk - played by Crazy Feminist Montgomery Scott - played by moderate feminist Kirk: "We need to push the gender balance further!" Scott: "You're mad! They jus' can' 'ake anymore! There's gonna be a backlash" And scene.
/r/MensRights18/04/11 08:12 PM
1

For trying, by force of will, to make people not immediately think of racism the moment someone makes the comparison because you want it? Absolutely, you are.
/r/MensRights18/04/11 07:53 PM
3

There are reasonable republicans, but that doesn't mean they don't all vote the same way when quorum is called.
/r/MensRights18/04/11 07:49 PM
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Anyone who tries to 'logic' away the racist history linking the concept of 'monkey' to 'black guy' is a fool.
/r/MensRights18/04/11 07:44 PM
5

I don't like how the female victim only cowered while the male victim made aggressive motions and defended himself more.
/r/MensRights18/04/11 12:39 AM
1

Good drunken comment: it caused me to think. Do male or female prostitutes earn more, on average?
/r/MensRights17/04/11 09:52 PM
2

If... I don't do house chores... I'm a child sex pimp? Do they not mention buying boys because we already do in Afghanistan with our tax dollars? Too many angles to be irritated at. I stand by the marketing thing as being the worst though. Stupid Sean Penn.
/r/MensRights17/04/11 09:50 PM
1

What??? I hate this avant garde marketing horseshit. And now I hate Sean Penn.
/r/MensRights17/04/11 09:46 PM
1

No need to worry; I speak crazy. I believe the gentleman was proposing a registry for perpetrators of paternity fraud.
/r/MensRights17/04/11 09:42 PM
1

True, but it's even more true to say that anyone who's not in that upper 25% has been the real nigger all along. Edit: women are the house niggers.
/r/MensRights17/04/11 09:24 PM
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Just think of the 90% of women that are smarter than her, and succeeded in the lie.
/r/MensRights16/04/11 09:22 PM
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