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/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:24 PM
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Even if I pay I got nothing. This is the same for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:31 PM
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They don't care if you aren't attractive to women, my guess is my mother feels nothing but shame when she thinks of me and probably wishes she aborted me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:21 PM
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Even then they don't care. I've told my mother she should have aborted me, she doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:13 PM
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I don't hate women at all, I just wish I was never born personally. I think women should think long and hard before they have a male child, they should listen to how miserable and worthless most men feel and really think if they wanna bring another man into this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:48 PM
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The implication is that by doing that, you will get laid. But of course most guys never will no matter what we do, we aren't attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:11 PM
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I mean you can google "hot guys" they look like that. Naturally muscular (most guys can't build a ton of muscle no matter how much we work out), good facial structure, naturally low hairline, prominent cheekbones, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:24 PM
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I've approached countless women, what is an "amazing instagram profile" exactly? A couple of photos of you enjoying steak with a mercedes key in frame placed tastefully to the side works wonder That sounds really dumb dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:17 PM
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I know plenty of guys who get approached by women all the time, they have good genetics and I don't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:04 PM
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I would say that all things considered, my face is probably slightly above average for men my age. If we're looking at all men, it's average as men younger than me have more attractive faces on average. If you wanna see what I look like you're welcome to DM me So you’re a 30 year old man, who’s 6 feet+, with an above average face, and who’s low body fat (no clue if you’re slight or broader athletic build)… and you get no play. Not just zero play, I don't even get dates. I get zero interest entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:35 PM
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Right I've done plenty more than average men, I'm over 6 foot, workout all the time, high income, nothing changes, I still get zero interest if you’re “behind” other men. I don't think you get what's going on to be honest, MOST men are unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:30 PM
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Which means that most these girls that are dating around or happy being alone and will eventually pair up with one guy You're assuming this new trend doesn't continue though. Like in the PAST men in their 30s would get paired up, but personally i don't think that's going to continue to happen. I think women will just stay in situationships, in nonmonogamous relationships with men even as they get older. For example, I recently turned 30. There were no women interested in me in my 20s and now in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:30 PM
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Most men end up finding someone eventually What are you basing this on? I don't think this is true anymore. I think it USED to be true but it hasn't been for the past decade and never will be again
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:22 PM
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They worked at it. Most guys who lift never look good. Chads had the genetics to gain visible muscle quickly and in great amounts. Genetics matter more than anything else by far. if you’re doing everything to your face to and hair to present better to present as cute and you’re still average, than your immutable face was likely below average imo. My face is probably above average for my age, but my age alone is so high (30) that there's no market for me at all. I might by a 6/10 just from my hei…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:20 PM
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In the short term, once everyone dies human suffering ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:17 PM
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Yup, this is most men. No matter how much effort we put in, we get nothing. So really I think abortion is the only solution for guys like us. Just prevent it from the beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:15 PM
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Most chads are immutable 5s/6s/7s who optimized every immutable trait to be an “overall chad.” Nah, I think they're just naturally very good looking. Saying you have an average face with no follow up as to how you optimize to present as best as possible as above average is telling. Expensive haircuts, well groomed facial hair (I researched what types women like), tretinoin, keeping my bodyfat low. There's nothing else you can do that I don't already do. Having an average personality ain’t gonna …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:15 PM
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They're not "rigged". Dude, they WANT average men paying for it and using them, we don't anymore because even if we pay for them, we still get zero interest. They're losing money and they're trying to make more and they can't because no matter what they do, women do not want average men like myself These two reasons are why you hear a lot of OLD success stories from people who found their partners through OKCupid 10ish years ago, before it started to remove/paywall features and manipulate its al…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:11 PM
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Right, they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:50 PM
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The dating apps aren't rigged, women just have very high standards. The apps DONT want that, they're losing money and doing everything they can to get women to give normal guys a shot and they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:49 PM
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I socialize as much as an average man. There's not much else I could be doing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:45 PM
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Right, we need MORE abortion. We need to encourage it, make it free, offer financial incentives to women for doing it. It's perfectly ethical, guys like myself would rather be aborted. How are 'unwanted men' supposed to be determined when they are not even born yet? How are the abortions going to be enforced without sparking widespread violence against state employees? We don't enforce it, we encourage it with financial incentives. How is a modern society supposed to depend on an infrastructure …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:45 PM
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Average face, above average height (over 6 foot), average personality. Still zero interest from women like most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:43 PM
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What? I'm saying it's a viable solution to unwanted men like myself and most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:25 PM
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I'm fairly rich, but I'm not attractive. I don't think it's an unreasonable solution to just abort most male babies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:13 PM
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lifting, taking care of themselves, developing socially, taking their work/money seriously, and not throwing their freedom and power away for the first girl who gives them a blowjob. Right but a lot of us do all this and still get zero interest from women, so it doesn't actually work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:51 PM
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It's from the well known Pew survey. I just think money doesn't make any difference at all anymore. Women make enough they can support themselves, physical attractiveness is the main factor they want in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:56 AM
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But average-looking men dating average-looking women is still pretty much the norm The vast majority of men my age are not dating any women dude. the resentment only becomes an issue when the richer person isn't cool about it, in some way. I think I'm just uncool. I try not to tell people about my money, but people figure it out when they know what neighborhood I live in, it's one of the most expensive in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:33 AM
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No offense, but lots of average-looking guys attract at least a few women with a quarter of your salary. Maybe in college I guess, not really afterwards Dating isn't really about money I agree, I haven't found money to make a difference. I'm not attractive regardless, just average you'd get out of a major US city or start hanging around some broke 25-year-old hipsters or something Poor people usually resent me for how much I make.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:10 AM
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I'm average looking, I live in a major US city. I made over 200k last year. How much more money do I need to make before average women are interested in me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:44 AM
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A rich enough guy will have some women. How rich is rich enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:22 AM
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Seems like it's mostly just genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:20 AM
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Not all men can put on muscle, muscle growth is a bell curve, we don't all have the androgen sensitivity, many guys have health and diet issues that basically make it impossible. I would argue you can't change personality either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:19 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:21 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:33 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:32 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:32 PM
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Because attraction is emotional and you should just get on steroids bro. Put that nerd brain to work
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 01:21 PM
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I've personally accepted I'm never gonna get women, but I've honestly lost interest in living at all. I'm looking into euthanasia
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 04:02 PM
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It's mostly just genetics women are filtering for and they know it. So I don't think they perceive men as having agency at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 04:01 PM
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Why is this seen as a bad thing? Because women do not care about men who are not physically attractive. That's just it, it's evolution. They want men who can't get women to die and not be part of the gene pool. They have wanted this for millions of years, it's the basis of our genetic history. Most women will pass their genes on, most men will not
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 04:01 PM
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30 is not young at all. The vast majority of women are not single at 30, they're usually getting married and having kids. you're ending even the whatever small chance of a better, happier life you could possibly have Right but there isn't any chance and no most men do not "hit their prime" in their 30s. That makes zero sense. By dying for such reasons as women not accepting you, you're validating their ego as though men are nothing without a woman, we know that's far from true. Personally I do n…
/r/MensRights02/09/24 03:54 PM
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The best revenge is living well. This makes no sense. For one, no woman cares if I'm alive or dead, like most men I'm invisible to them. Why the fuck would I even wanna be alive knowing I'm just gonna spend decades alone? shouldn't make you want to stop living if it's lacking in life. It's not in my control though, evolution wires your brain to stop wanting to live when you realize you're never getting any women. I'm 30
/r/MensRights02/09/24 03:42 PM
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Yeah I've been thinking of getting euthanized personally.
/r/MensRights02/09/24 03:37 PM
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Realizing the true nature of women isn't going to help most men, considering most women want good genetics which most men just don't have, including myself
/r/MensRights02/09/24 02:18 AM
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Yup, nothing helps
/r/MensRights29/08/24 03:26 PM
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I've done all that, it doesn't do shit. I've been to Asia, I did not get laid
/r/MensRights29/08/24 02:06 PM
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/r/MensRights29/08/24 05:51 AM
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I did very well in school, I have a high paying job, lots of savings, I live on my own. But I've never had a girlfriend, I have zero dating prospects, so I mostly just wish i was dead. Not sure what the answer is. Maybe fewer people should have kids? I wish my parents didn't have any
/r/MensRights29/08/24 05:50 AM
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I didnt choose to be alive and I dont WANT them to suffer. But why should I have to suffer? How the fuck is THAT fair? I'm gonna choose ending my own suffering
/r/MensRights29/08/24 01:06 AM
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I don't care. I didn't choose to be alive and I can't take being unwanted anymore
/r/MensRights28/08/24 09:53 PM
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Sorry, I've looked at this every possible way, there's none
/r/MensRights28/08/24 05:01 PM
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I"m not good looking, I'm average looking.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 01:40 PM
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They've already won, nothing is going to change for the better. It's just going to get worse
/r/MensRights28/08/24 01:40 PM
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Why would I want to prevent it? I hate being alive
/r/MensRights28/08/24 01:37 PM
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Personally I've lost interest in living.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 03:35 AM
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Working on myself accomplished nothing.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 03:03 AM
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I'm 6'2" and make over 200k and I have zero interest from women.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 03:02 AM
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Yeah I'm going through some shit, no one cares. I'm probably gonna euthanize myself
/r/MensRights28/08/24 03:02 AM
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Men swipe right on 50-60% of women on average, women swipe right around 5% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:19 AM
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Women as a gender are only attracted to a tiny percent of the most attractive men? Not true. Why is this constantly being repeated? Because it's true. As men, we know because most of us never experience any attraction from women. I personally go for average-looking guys (yes, AVERAGE) who are funny, sciencey and have the same religious and political beliefs. Women tend to drastically underrate men, they may well be well above average, you would never know because women don't rate men honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:36 AM
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Women do experience spontaneous desire when they see a very attractive man. It's just 95% of men aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:33 AM
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Women are happily with men that aren't models everywhere. Sure but they aren't actually attracted to them, hence r/deadbedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:32 AM
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The vast majority of men will never do anything gay in prison, look at the actual studies. Women enjoy sex. Just only with around 5% of men, the most attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:29 AM
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It's literally just testosterone levels. That's literally it, it's not any more complicated. Look at studies on women with elevated testosterone levels, their standards for attractiveness in men go down and their sexual impulsivity go up Men are visual creatures. Women are more intuitive and respond to overall behaviors, social interactions, and connection. This is bullshit. Most men are attracted to most women. Women are only attracted to the tiny percentage of the most physically attractive me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:28 AM
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No, this also isn't true. Most men aren't attracted to EVERY woman, just a little over half. Men aren't attracted to other men generally either. Men don't just "want a hole", men just have a much lower standard for attractive than women, due to have testosterone in higher amounts and a higher sex drive. Women have VERY, VERY high standards for attractive, only being attracted to around 5% of men, almost entirely due to unchangeable genetic qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:26 AM
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Women don't want sex the way men do, women want sex from a tiny percentage of attractive men, men would have sex with most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:24 AM
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Everything I've said is completely correct. Like most men, I don't get women because I lack attractive genetic qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:22 AM
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Women have around 1/20th of the testosterone that men have. And I guess I’ll never know as I have not met 90% of the world’s age appropriate men, so I have no way of testing of your claim as to whether I’d only like to have sex with 10% of them. Ok what percentage of men on a dating app do you swipe right on? What percentage of women does the average man swipe right on?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:22 AM
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Right women only want sex with the small percentage of physically attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:20 AM
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It's desire that's responsive to men having incredibly hot genetic qualities, which 90% of men lack. Ironically tho us women are just wishing for guys that had our libido and stamina so a sexual encounter could last longer than 8 minutes Of course, that isn't "all" you're wishing for, you only want that from an absurdly attractive man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:18 AM
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Women like sex, but not with 90% of men, only hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:16 AM
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I mean I literally summed up the subject in two sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:55 AM
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Women have a much lower level of sexual interest in the average men because you lack testosterone. Thus, only very attractive men excite women, so most men are worthless (myself included)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:48 AM
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The qualities women desire in men are genetic and unchangeable. No amount of "working on appearance" will make most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:47 AM
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Totally agree, I am a worthless person who does not have genetics any women want. I should have just been aborted. I encourage women to abort any male child they have. Maybe men shouldn’t place their value and self worth on the ability to attract women. It's not something we choose to do, it's something evolution forces us to do. Why shouldn't I hate life? I'm 30 and never had a girlfriend and never will. I should not exist, like literally
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:28 PM
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Right they don't want most men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:19 PM
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Most guys without luck in dating just give up on life in general
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:01 PM
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I mean you're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:50 PM
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None of that matters, women just care about your appearance. You can act however you want, won't make any difference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:45 PM
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Women do care about who the man is, they want good genetics. And generally women fall LESS in love over time, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:04 PM
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I online dating for a few years and then stopped. I approached maybe 10-15 women a week for a while, never got anything from it. Got numbers once in a while, never got texted back, eventually gave up that too.
/r/seduction27/08/24 05:46 PM
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Probably not. First off, I'm not Indian. Second, the only people I know personally who had those ended up divorced later on. So doesnt seem like a smart idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:26 PM
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I don't do it anymore, I used to do it for years. It actually worked a few times in college but that was like ten years ago. I don't bother with online dating anymore, I tried a lot of different pictures, bios, etc. Nothing worked. Yes I had it reviewed, did not help
/r/seduction27/08/24 05:02 PM
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My interpretation of the data is not cynical at all. My life is shit because women don't want me or anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:55 PM
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The stats are from Pew research, one of the most reliable pollsters. Most men are not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:54 PM
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Yeah they're just getting with the hottest guy within a reasonable distance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:53 PM
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Everything, online dating, cold approaching, warm approaching, hobbies, sports groups, etc. Nothing works
/r/seduction27/08/24 04:42 PM
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Because he was incredibly rich and famous?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:09 PM
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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/ Most women aren't single, most women are. The ratios of men to women on dating apps perfectly match the ratios of single men to single women Dude dating INHERENTLY is a shallow thing. Like how the fuck can you even argue this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:09 PM
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By the very definition of the word we are the vast majority of men. And for many of us, things never improve no matter how much we try. I am one such example but I know many others
/r/seduction27/08/24 03:47 PM
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ou should have a pipeline of women available to you so that's when this happens you can easily switch to another. Vast majority of men will never have anything like this
/r/seduction27/08/24 03:21 PM
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I don't watch Star Trek so I have no clue what you're talking about. Personally I wish I had been aborted
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:52 PM
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Most women literally do not use dating apps. Sure but that's just because most women aren't single. Your reliance on the most shallow medium for dating Dating by its very nature is shallow. Women are selecting for the most shallow qualities in men, genetics. The women that date differently left the apps a long time ago for exactly that reason Literally all single women looking to date are on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:49 PM
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It has everything to do with genetics, women want men with better genetics. Having better genetics grants you status. Even men with material wealth get zero interest from women. I mean I make well over 200k, still get zero interest myself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:48 PM
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Right so you do all the right things and then you still get nothing. So then what should we do? I think euthanasia is probably the most efficient option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:43 PM
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What is going to help me exactly? I've tried therapy, it does nothing. I've lost interest in life, I wish I was aborted you can find happiness in yourself without the validation of the female gender I actually don't think this is possible at all. Evolution wired our brains to need romantic relationships with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:07 PM
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Most men aren't getting the ability to have casual sex no matter where they live. Above average looking guys can usually get below average looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:07 PM
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I know for a fact that attractive men are sleeping with unattractive women because we can look at fat-fishing experiments, where people use photos of fat, unattractive women and see all the attractive men swiping right on them. It could be NYC is different, probably less fatties, but we know attractive men are hooking up with average and unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:00 PM
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A woman almost certainly invented the term situationship. I happen to know countless men who sleep around. Right, because you're a woman and you know the small sampling of men who sleep with a lot of women. That is a TINY percentage of men who can do that though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:57 PM
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I'm average looking and I live in a big city and I get zero interest off apps, like most guys I know. I think you're probably a lot more attractive than most men. Or you're just lying, I mean what percentage of men can get 1-2 women a week to immediately hook up? Almost none. none of them are close to average looking. Meaning what? They're ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:55 PM
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It’s crazy that you think the average woman is going around sleeping with tons of guys It's not, I know countless women like that. More men want to do this than women. Men can't do it, women can. Either way, it’s theoretical. Not really. I can tell you that most men under 30 are not getting "situationships". We know for a fact it's a small percentage of men getting women at all, that's WHY women invented situationships, so they could justify having these harem type relatioinships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:49 PM
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Because the average man and woman are both lying, overstating and understating respectively. Why does the average man have a relationship? He doesn't. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/ the average woman gets with an average man in her same socio economic class. Sure but he's a lot hotter than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:36 PM
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The thing women want to be with is defined by genetic qualities or having generational wealth (like being born a multi millionaire). These are not things you can word towards obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:16 PM
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Because sex workers don't actually desire them at all and in fact feel extreme contempt for their clients?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:15 PM
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hey make up issues about women and blame things like female hypergamy, "unrealistic standards," and feminism Those are all real though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:12 PM
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Yes, women are rightfully demanding more out of men these days...but they're still pretty dishonest about what they're demanding more of. I mean from the average man women are demanding absolutely nothing. They want nothing to do with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:11 PM
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there aren't good women out there, not single ones anyway. I've worked on myself plenty, it does nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:04 PM
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Well and I think women just do want hot guys over normal guys
/r/MensRights27/08/24 01:02 PM
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He doesn’t need to sleep with average or even above average women. They actually do this all the time. The reason being, a hot guy can sleep with a hot woman, sure. But it's gonna be a lot more effort, he's gonna have to date her, take her to a bar at the minimum. With an average woman he can just tell them to come over and hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:00 PM
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No that was dating apps
/r/MensRights27/08/24 03:53 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:28 AM
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No, there's really not. Therapy does not help guys like me. The answer is women need to stop having male children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:27 AM
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I think women should just start aborting all male babies. I wish every day my mother had
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:21 AM
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It's not, she's upset you pointed out how women actually behave is all
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They probably aren't even 2-3 hours away, they're just the hottest guy in a 50 mile radius. I agree it's likely always been like this. Nothing normal can do.
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It really doesn't, it's just men in general right now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:00 PM
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Ok but it's every guy I've met.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:55 PM
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They do it because the only other option is being single, my point is there aren't decent women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:52 PM
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It's honestly wild how basically every guy I know in a relationship is hardly fucking at all, like basically never. All that time and effort and money they put in is just for social status, people look down on you when you don't/can't get a girlfriend or wife but none of that seems worth the close to zero sex every guy I know in one is having. Like they ADMIT this shit, it's insane. And not to mention I could never get an attractive girl anyway because I'm not attractive enough. But even if I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:34 AM
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I'm not a woman or a gay man but I know how women's brains work
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:26 AM
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I literally do not know a man that is in a relationship that isn't deadbedroom, insane woman, toxic behavior, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:08 AM
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think since they weren't as 6'4 white chads they'll never actually be lusted after I mean this is true. any girl that wants them will only care about them because "her clock is ticking" and think he'd make a good atm and lifestyle provider. This is also true. Being single is 10x better than being with someone who doesn't make you happy I mean eventually you lose the will to live
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:27 AM
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Do you understand the concept of a representative sample? Do you understand how polling and statistics work? Or what a confidence interval is? Do you know WHY Pew is considered so credible?
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The article is about a poll from Pew which is basically the most reputable pollster in existnece
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No, most women are not single https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:31 PM
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Statistically, most men are single. I talk to women plenty.
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I'm not even offended, I'm just showing you're being really illogical and you clearly DO need it explained. Maybe I need to use flashcards. Do you like those?
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:47 PM
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Most men don't interact with women at all. You are generalizing men based on a small percentage of males, the vast majority of us do not hit on any women, let alone hit one women well after we've been rejected. " I don’t need to be told not all men because a logical person knows it’s not all men but you wanted to pick apart that argument." Actually you DO seem to need to be told it because you aren't very logical! I wonder how you would feel if I said based on my sample size (you) women aren't l…
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I don't disagree that many women have had this experience with at least ONE man. But does that imply MOST men act like this? Do you understand the logical leap you're making?
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Nothing wrong with that, my issue is with the post title "Why are you mad when women accept your no?" "You' implies all men are doing this, it's a very small minority of men acting this way. Is it fair to generalize that to all men?
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:17 PM
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The problem with red pill advice is that it also doesn't work because women don't actually care how you act, just how attractive your genetics are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:03 PM
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Most men don't do this. Most men don't talk to women at all, we've been rejected countless times and don't bother. I have no idea why that guy did what he did, but he probably just has mental problems. Try not to generalize, considering most men don't do this
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I've approached countless women, it doesn't work.
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There's nothing left here I wanna do, you can do whatever you want
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:55 AM
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Oh I have hobbies. But if you go 30 years without any romantic interest from the opposite sex, yeah you're probably gonna not really wanna live anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:10 AM
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Source? There's tons of sources, dating app studies, survey data, self reporting. Very easy to verify what percentage of men women find attractive, there's literally a post on this subreddit within the last few hours and every woman in it admits this Are you just saying that the women who aren't married are just in situationships or something? Yes a large portion seem to be, that seems to explain the massive difference in singledom between men and women. The data disagrees with you, however Whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:44 AM
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"Explain to me how women have magnitudes more options now but men don't?" Women have lower sex drive due to lacking testosterone, men find around half or more of women attractive, women find less than 1/10 men attractive. Women are completely willing to share attractive men, rather than go for average men, much like the harems of the past or we see in many animal species "The median age of marriage for both genders has gone up at the same rate." Right, women are now more likely to be in relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:05 AM
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"So did men?" Not really. Like in the past, women are picking from their best options, and if women have magnitudes more options, they became magnitudes more picky. And they usually pick the same small percentage of guys. "Women have historically dated/married older men." Like a year older, not 10-20 year solder dude lol. "The median age of marriage has risen" The odds of getting married at all, especially for men, have drastically dropped. "The gap of median age for first marriage has remained …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:25 AM
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I do not think poor genetics USED to disqualify us, I think dating has drastically changed in the past 10 years due to apps. Look at your own source, the data is from 2014 and the fertility rate has been drastically dropping since then. Not only that, the vast majority of men 30 and below aren't fathers, even in your own outdated source. And I would posit that the vast majority of us will NEVER be fathers now. Women's dating went from a few men they met in high school and college and maybe work …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:54 AM
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" I thought I was ugly until some middle class friends took me shopping , then girls started finding me attractive." Yeah I've bought nice clothes, it doesn't help. I'm not deformed, women just have very, very high standards in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:50 AM
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Not having money doesn't destroy your chances the way not being born attractive does though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:20 AM
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"go cold approach women in public religiously without shame or doing everything you can to find dates online" Yeah a lot of us have tried that for years and it doesn't work. What else did you want us to try?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:06 AM
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Free markets are never free. Notice people with the most money have rich parents. Guys who do the best at dating, by far, have the best genetics. Everything is predetermined, everything is a scam to see like your failures are on you, when really it was over before you were even born. Thus, the solution is abortion. If we just make abortion free and encourage enough women to do it, we can wipe out the unwanted men, like myself and never have anymore generations of miserable men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:05 AM
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It really doesn't, women do not care as long as you're attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:02 AM
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Why is that good?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:16 PM
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Yeah I mean I only know the US but I know plenty of guys with tons of girls despite being completely broke and living with their parents. On the contrary I know tons of high earning guys with zero interest from women, due to just not being attractive, myself included
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:54 PM
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Being poor doesn't disqualify men, the only disqualifier is poor genetics, which unfortunately most men have
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:44 PM
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I would rather have just been aborted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:07 PM
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Plenty of people agree with me, hence record level deaths of despair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:07 PM
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Life under our current system is already not worth living.
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I dont see too many guys getting laid all the time hanging themselves
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:50 PM
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Yeah I agree. I worked hard to get money and I'm not happy. But I think attractive men who get laid a lot are probably happy. They seem happy
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"Only the women who are interested in casual sex. Not the rest of us." That's almost all women these days. In particular single women. "If the only 2 choices possible are a virgin or a slut, the majority of women would choose the virgin." Complete disagree. "While that is indeed unfortunate for you (not saying this in a mean way), most men in their 30s and 40s are in relationships of some kind." Most men in their 20s arent and I just turned 30. My guess is before I'm 40, most men in their 30s wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:25 AM
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"you should move to NY and stay near the cities." I live in a liberal city, zero interest from women. I'm not attractive enough. "We absolutely do. Most men simply aren't sluts though." The men women want are lol. "the overwhelming majority would choose the virgin." This is just not true lol "Perhaps with the youngest adults who are in their late teens/very early 20s. It doesn't seem to be the case with the older population." Well I'm 30 and exactly 0 women are interested in me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:52 AM
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"You haven't met many liberal men, I see. ;)" Well personally I'm a VERY liberal man. But I've never had a girlfriend, women don't tend to like liberal guys. "Sounds like something that mostly conservative men want." It's something basically all guys want. "Men being sluts is disgusting." That's a perfectly valid perspective. But most women don't seem to care. "My comment there wasn't about what women care about. It was about the man himself not valuing his sexuality, and treating it as no more …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:24 AM
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"He's wanting a woman who has decided to only share her body with a very select few men, whereas he is out there renting his dick out to numerous women" Men and women are not the same. We want different things in each other. For example, women often say they want a man who "protects" them and makes them feel safe. Do men say that about women? Pretty much never! Likewise, in general men want a woman who is demure and modest, and maybe sexually inhibited in private but only with them. Do women ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:06 AM
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Because most people are still homophobic, they're not openly homophobic like in the past, but they do find a lot of stuff gross and just don't tell anyone. I will admit there's a lot I find gross as well, but I'm not openly bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:44 PM
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If you have enough dating options in women to only date women with an n count of 3 or below, more power to you. Most men can't get any dates at all, myself included, so that's quite the accomplishment. I agree that low n account is massively important. Unfortunately the only way most guys will get that is if they lock a girl down in high school or college, which I was too stupid to. "it’s not hypocritical for me to romantically prefer women who have lower n counts while having a higher n count m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:43 PM
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I mean I'm 6'2" and also get zero interest on dating apps
/r/seduction17/08/24 02:46 PM
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If it makes you feel better I'm 6'2" and get zero interest from women
/r/seduction17/08/24 02:46 PM
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Motivation is worthless without good genetics
/r/seduction17/08/24 01:16 PM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:53 AM
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"Listen, you have worth" If I had worth I wouldn't be 30 and never had a girlfriend. "whether or not someone is giving you romantic attention" You don't know what it's like to be completely unwanted so really, you can't say. I would urge you to appreciate how lucky you are. "out of this existence again" Right which is why it's worthless and women need to get more abortions. "PPD is not going to do you any favors in your outlook," It's motivating me to move to a country with voluntary euthanasia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:36 AM
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I'm not whining to anyone, I'm saying what I feel and clearly other guys agree which is why I'm getting upvoted. Of course women mock me, I'm not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:33 AM
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I am one and I wish I had never been forced into existence. I hate being alive and I think most men do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:22 AM
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I never said that, I said I should have not been born. I should have been aborted. I think all men should. I'm well aware of the fact that no woman is going to ever want me, I don't blame them, I'm worthless. I just think it's unfair I was force to exist, I didn't consent to that. Had I known what my life was going to be like I never would have, but I was of course never given the choice. Much like rape and assault, being forced into existence is a nonconsensual act.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:18 AM
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Women just need to stop having male children, that's my solution. I sure as fuck wish I wasn't born.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:11 AM
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If something is a larger social trend then no it’s not really our fault. Is it poor people’s fault they commit more crime? Not really, it’s the result of systemic conditions and oppression. I’m not just describing myself because most men my age don’t have friends they see regularly. Most men with social lives got lucky, they were on the right path early in life and either went into a very social career or stayed in the same area. If you move after college like I did you’re pretty much fucked, es…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:40 PM
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What do you mean? Of course I'm talking about myself. I'm also talking about most men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:15 PM
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There are evolutionary and genetic reasons why women are more prone to make social connections. It's fundementally easier for women to be accepted as vulnerable, women are far less likely to see each other as a threat, women are more likely to WANT friends and maintain those relationships with each other. Men don't. "Also, it’s normal to have friends as a man after college. Most men have friends" Not ones they see regularly, I mean look it up. Most guys my age are basically alcoholics too, so if…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:05 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:43 PM
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They can get relationships, not just hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:43 PM
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Personally I think all babies should be aborted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:22 PM
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I'm looking into euthanasia. All that "game" shit doesnt actually work.
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:59 PM
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You're not gonna make friend as a man after college. You're just unaware of what being a man is like, I mean you should be thankful lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:58 PM
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I mean life sucks what are you gonna do?
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:46 PM
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Right and I would guess most "dating" is those guys buying women free food and getting zero sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:45 PM
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Because you're probably not gonna get any women at all
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:42 PM
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It's realistic though
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:40 PM
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There's no way he's average looking. Or he's lying about all this and you're a dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:34 PM
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Yeah none of this sounds true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:32 PM
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Yeah most men don't have friends they see regularly statistically and the number is growing https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/29/health/men-friendships-wellness/index.html Even if you do have friends no woman is gonna want you unless you're hot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:31 PM
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She was making fun of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:30 PM
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I'm still right
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:15 PM
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Nah I'm right
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:14 PM
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Every woman that is there and having sex with guys is drunk, end of story
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:13 PM
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I mean at your age it's pretty much over
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If she's at a bar or a club and hooking up with guys, she's insanely drunk and possibly even on drugs
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:11 PM
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I'm 30 and 6'2" and I haven't gotten laid in over a decade. Maybe just give up?
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:10 PM
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Having sex with a drunk woman you just met at a bar or a club sounds nonconsensual
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:09 PM
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Because you aren't attractive enough
/r/seduction16/08/24 06:09 PM
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"escape room" Ok so guys are like both pretty fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:56 PM
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Are you talking about ugly middle aged guys? Yeah I mean it's a different generation. Younger guys aren't getting anything "Plus I'm short and married." How old are you? How old is your wife? Where did you meet? You're definitely an outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:50 PM
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Being attractive is the only thing that ever actually matters. "Being social and meeting new people gives them a chance to actually see your other qualities." Right but it still won't work if you aren't hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:38 PM
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I mean yeah for 90% of men they're gonna get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:23 PM
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"No most men are not single. The majority of YOUNG men are single" Right but that trend is growing as men get older. "If men didn't pursue young women and instead went for older women, those stats would change" Not true, older women aren't interested and are very rarely even single. "the ratio of men on Tinder is much higher than women. So of course any woman will get more likes." Women don't get 2-3x as many likes, women get more like 200-300x as many times, you do realize this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:19 PM
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I mean it doesn't work unless you're attractive anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:18 PM
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It means you're attractive (assuming those dates are actually leading to hookups or relationships and not just women trying to get free food). For the vast majority of men, nothing is gonna work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:17 PM
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"However, some guys have zero fucks to give and that may include having low standard but they end up having sex and relationships" Right due to low standards. Example: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/plapjak-wojak-giving-fat-girl-backshots "which creates a positive momentum, at least getting some experience is better than nothing." Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:17 PM
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This doesn't happen for 99% of men post-college
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:11 PM
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"This creates a scenario where men who are self conscious about making women uncomfortable never try, so they are never even in the game to give themselves a chance" They never had a chance to begin with "While, men who are not so self conscious and not put off by the idea of being considered toxic or problematic end up doing well because they give themselves a chance." Unless they're hot or have zero standards, they never had a chance to begin with either "Everything about modern dating creates…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:10 PM
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I don't see any point in men cold approaching, considering women will approach men if they're hot enough, I've seen it. If a woman hasn't approached you, it means you aren't hot enough so there's zero point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:08 PM
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The ratio of men to women on tinder is the same as the ratio of single men to single women. Most men are single, most women arent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:03 PM
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The ratios of men to women on dating apps is basically the same as the ratio of single men to single women. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/ " likes do not equal hook ups and relationships" Right but there's obviously a casual relationship between the two. You can't get a date or a hookup or a relationship if you don't get a like first and most men are getting zero likes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:26 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XHdO4uMD2Us
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:21 PM
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That was 2019, after covid the figure jumped. And if 30% of guys are admitting it, it's obviously 70% are more, most guys would never admit they aren't having sex. But logically, how could they be? Most men have no dating avenues besides apps and most guys can't get any girls off of them. So most guys aren't having sex or dating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:19 PM
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Yes, far, far more. It's most men. It's almost every guy I talk to. I'm completely average and I haven't had sex in over a decade https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:11 PM
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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:11 PM
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That might be changing, considering most men under 30 aren't having any sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:50 PM
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"Women don't really face pressure to be a particular temperament, but they do face pressure to look a certain way." Not really, it's not like obese women can't easily get hookups or relationships, which most completely average men can't do at all. I don't think women face any social pressure whatsoever anymore, anything they do is considered good simply due to them being women. The one exception is women in states with abortion restrictions, which aren't good obviously, but most can just get abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:27 PM
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This is basically most men these days
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:19 PM
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Again this literally happens
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:02 PM
1

Nah it's just about being hot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:00 PM
1

1000 calorie deficits are perfectl safe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:59 PM
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Women have higher BMIs that women, just objectively. Women are more obese than men are in the US and probably most countries. Most men are fat and gross, I agree, but somehow women are even fatter and grosser
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:29 AM
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So if your'e overweight, you need to starve yourself. Exercise doesn't burn THAT many calories, even running for 2 hours only burns like 1000 calories, which is like one milkshake or double cheeseburger. So you need to starve yourself. Stimulants let you do that, you can get on ADHD meds pretty easily, like adderall or vyvanse, lots of ways to get scripts, online docs, etc. Then just consume that and coffee, maybe have some small meals here and there but you're not gonna want to. Starve yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:28 AM
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Men pay significantly more and collect significantly less entitlements
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:36 PM
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Acting like misogyny is a factor at all is ridiculous, hot men who get tons of women are typically wildly misogynistic, it does not affect their outcomes whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:36 PM
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Of course I do, I've been friends with attractive guys, I've seen random women walk up to them before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:34 PM
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"the vast majority of women will never approach men." This is not true. Most women do approach hot guys, you just aren't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:08 PM
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Like most things, it's a lie men are told so that we work more and pay more taxes. It benefits society to believe that hard work will lead us somewhere, that there's som reward for paying in. But if that was true birthrates wouldn't be abysmal and we wouldnt need to import all these migrants just too offset our growing population collapse. The reality is no one cares about you and life is meaningless. It's probably a GOOD thing that people aren't having kids because in the end it means less men …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:41 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:12 PM
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I'm not sure how relevant what men want is, considering most men aren't getting any women and the ones who are are taking whatever they can get. They aren't actively choosing the worst, hottest ones the way women do. If men HAD options, maybe they would do the same as women, who knows. But 90% of men don't so it's not relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:11 PM
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It's more than obvious women WANT horrible men, so long as they're hot. Women crave volatility, it makes their boring lives feel interesting, it causes their friends to feel sympathy for them, and it increases their own sexual satisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:54 PM
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"Particularly young men trying to find a woman." I mean most young men aren't going to find any women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:36 PM
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"It’s just a fact, and there isn’t anything which needs to be done about it." I mean people can stop having kids for one. I personally would much rather have just not been born. "Those people don’t need to be brought down a notch, or criticized or hated because they aren’t going away." All inequality is bad. Many people wish to tear down the existing social structures because of the way they institutionally enable inequality. Personally I just think people should stop having kids. Lets end human…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:35 PM
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Women rarely get rejected when they do this, at least the average and above ones. You're coping because you're trying to say it literally doesnt happen when we both know it does
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:45 PM
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Ok go hang out with an attractive guy, I've seen it before. "Women DO NOT court men the SAME WAY men do. Women don't offer to take guys out on dates and to ask for their numbers from dudes who are complete strangers" I've literally seen it happen. You're coping
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:38 PM
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It's just never happened to you because you're unattractive but I've seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:26 PM
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A woman will walk up and start hitting on a guy if he is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:26 PM
1

Women literally walk up and approach if a guy is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:59 PM
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I've been around women plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:25 PM
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"It’s either that or they make it painfully obvious by staring you down then looking away until you approach" Hot guys don't bother approaching, why bother when average to hot women will walk right up to them and try to hook up quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:07 AM
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Women don't get rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:05 AM
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Nope they will go right up and talk to them and often just ask if they wanna hook up immediately. Normal men will never experience this of course
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:04 AM
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"Women are much more likely to face manipulations" Eh, at this point I would rather be manipulated by a woman than just have another decade of endless rejections to be honest. At least it would change things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:32 AM
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"I never get attention from young attractive girls" Why would you? Women want a guy around their age. Sure most women like an older guy, but like a year older, not 10 years older, look at the average relationship gap, it's like 1-2 years. "My hair was also thinning in my late 20s so I decided to go for the shaved head + beard look" You could have stopped your hair loss, it's too late now though. Losing your hair definitely makes you a lot less attractive to women. "And whenever I find someone ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:27 AM
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"I think you're underestimating how many women are terrified of rejection" I'm not. "Like my sister would never approach" You might think that, but it's probably not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:25 AM
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Right, only a small percentage of men are attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:24 AM
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"they don't have to because men assume all risk in today's dating market" Women approach hot guys all the time. You don't realize this because you aren't hot. I'm not either but I know guys who are, that's the only reason I've seen it happen countless times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:34 AM
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"women by and large don't approach" Nonsense, women love approaching hot guys. You just aren't hot. "women don't have to risk approaching when guys will approach them" Women take zero risk when approaching and again, if they don't approach you, it's because you aren't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:27 AM
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Right and the vast majority of the time, the guy isn't gonna reject her, men are much less likely to be in a relationship than women are. "Even those women who claim to not approach online or in real life, still have a few guys around they fuck," Right, single women don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:27 AM
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I can guarantee you most 30+ women are not single in Europe either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:19 AM
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I didn't really have any other options. I found some girls in college, willing to hook up with me. When I tried to hang out with them more and try to move that into a relationship, they lost interest. Eventually they dated other guys, I think they just didn't like me. After college I didn't have any women interested in me, even for hookups anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:18 AM
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If a woman was actually attracted to a man, she would approach him. I have seen actually good looking guys I know get approached in public countless times. Yes, this doesn't happen to most men, it's never happened to me. But it's why approaching women is completely pointless, because the fact that she didn't approach you tells you everything you need to know. If you were good looking, she would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:15 AM
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Not really "if you want it THAT bad you can use that as motivation to put in way more effort then the average older guy," To get what? A woman who is single at 30 has had literally thousands of potential men she could have dated, something is seriously wrong with her if she is single at my age. "Most guys in their 30s just give up or settle for the first sub par women that takes them" I mean I can't even get that dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:08 AM
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Yeah I know i have no options. Honestly the voluntary euthanasia shit they have in Canada looks pretty dope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:54 AM
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You can't get more fit in your 30s, your testosterone is dropping. Having more money also doesn't seem to make you any more desirable to women, the guys I know who get the most women are completely broke but very good looking. All that really matters is how many single women are there your age and how high are their standards? At 20, most women your age are single and their standards are pretty low. At 30, it's exactly the opposite. It doesn't matter what you do as a man, you're just fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:43 AM
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I mean "the wall" is usually fertility, no? That's a pretty hard limit. But in general, women get way less attractive as they age, they peak quite young in terms of their desirability but instead of finding the best possible guy to marry, they usually waste that short period and take whoever they can get when they're older and less desirable. The misconception is that men get MORE desirable as we get older, but personally I've never found that to be the case. I'm 30 and make far more money than …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:23 AM
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Yeah I mean I have no idea what the rest of the world is like, but for most men in the US, dating isn't really possible after college anymore. It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:20 AM
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Dating moving to dating apps opened up the average woman's dating options from a few men she knew in her life to literally every man within a 50 mile radius of her. Thus, average men like myself can't really compete anymore. "Meeting through work or family is a tried and tested method." You can get fired trying to date someone you work with and meeting a woman through family isn't really something that happens at least in America, maybe it does in other countries. My family just makes fun of me …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:11 AM
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Because 30 year old women are far less attractive on average than 20 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:56 PM
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Dating as a man seems completely different for me. At 20, I was in college. I was around women my age who were thin, healthy, single, open to meeting new guys, etc. It was not that difficult to sleep with average or even somewhat above average women as a normal guy, like I was. Now I'm 30. The vast majority of women my age are not single. The average woman at 30 is far more likely to be overweight, unhealthy, less attractive, then when she was 20. The minority of 30 year old women who are still …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:55 PM
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I mean most men aren't dating at all, so yeah the ones who are can be disproportionately good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:12 AM
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Alpha fucks, beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:46 AM
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Ok
/r/seduction08/08/24 09:26 PM
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Why can't I express my views and experiences?
/r/seduction08/08/24 07:51 PM
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Its rooted in your religious upbringing, whether you wanna acknowledge that or not is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:50 PM
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ok
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:33 AM
1

which forums
/r/seduction08/08/24 07:39 AM
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I did not. I'm not bluepilled at all. Read my comments
/r/seduction08/08/24 03:56 AM
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She said I was right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:05 AM
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You don't feel sexual guilt because you've never had sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:05 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:47 AM
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"There's just no way you're 25 and a virgin woman and dont have some religious involvement." I mean, I was right. She was raised Catholic, even if you stop being religious, you still feel guilty about stuff. I was raised Catholic too, I don't go to church, but I still feel guilty for having had sex in the past. I don't anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:46 AM
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Yeah a lot of people have never had a relationship, I've never had one and I'm older than you. Fortunately you're a woman and there's plenty of guys who are interested in you just for that alone, you just need to filter out the guys who won't stick around. So use HInge and make it clear you don't wanna have sex quickly. There are guys that are willing to wait. You can say you've never had a relationship, just don't say you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:44 AM
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Yup, bingo. Just use Hinga and make it clear to guys you aren't looking for anything casual, no hookups, take it slow. Probably don't tell them you're a virgin, just keep that private for now. There are guys you can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:39 AM
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I'm not projecting anything, if women won't sleep with you unless they're so drunk they can't consent, that's rape
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:35 AM
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Yes, you're literally a rapist.
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:35 AM
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Were you raised religious? There's just no way you're 25 and a virgin woman and dont have some religious involvement. I'm not religious either and I think you're smart to be honest. But the men who are going to be willing to wait are usually religious. I would not mention that you're a virgin if you're pursuing non-religious men, they're just going to assume things about you that might not be true (especially if you aren't religious). Just say you want something serious, you aren't looking for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:33 AM
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Yes, I think you literally are a rapist. "Do you even know even being tipsy and out at night could make you throw up." Yes.
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:30 AM
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"I've only been ghosted on dating apps when I admit to it." Men on dating apps are looking for hookups. You should not be on them if that's not what you're looking for, trying meeting a man through your religious community, assuming you're a part of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:29 AM
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I had sex back in college a few times, never once was the girl drunk or unable to consent. YOU on the other hand can't get sex unless a woman is too drunk to consent, because you're a loser lol. Hopefully you end up in jail.
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:27 AM
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I put in a lot of effort a while back during my mid 20s, I never saw any success. Eventually I gave up, I'm now 30 and I see zero point in anything
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:26 AM
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Going to bars to wait for some drunk woman who can't even tell what you look like to have sex with you that she regrets is some really fucking pathetic shit dude. I'd rather just not have sex.
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:14 AM
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Why not just not have sex? "no “what’s your name again?” after sex," That sounds non-consensual
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:07 AM
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I do not think you are meeting up with attractive women and sleeping with them. Feel free to DM me proof if you want, but I dont believe you one bit
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:03 AM
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"It’s like to you an average looking dude and a hideous incel are in the same doomed “unattractive” bin" I think that, yeah. "And the meathead chiseled Chad who can’t hold a conversation is just totally set for life and smashing every girl from tinder. That’s not how it works." That's exactly what's going on right now. "If you’re getting any hot matches at all from apps as a guy you are above average looking." Nah, those are fake profiles/women swiping when they're bored. They aren't real. I del…
/r/seduction08/08/24 01:51 AM
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I have absolutely met guys like that, who can just message come over. I don't think you actually get lots of hot women lol
/r/seduction08/08/24 01:26 AM
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How old are you? i'm 30, I don't drink or go to bars. I know you're unattractive because if you weren't, you would just get women off dating apps. Like hot guys can just say "come over" and women do.
/r/seduction08/08/24 01:18 AM
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This is not the case, many people are born on third base. I know guys who are just genetically very attractive and get tons of girls without even trying, they've NEVER had to try in fact. Whereas for me, I can't no matter how much I try.
/r/seduction08/08/24 12:57 AM
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"in my experience that’s pretty much the best place to rapidly get dates and even one night stands with top tier women" What are "top tier women"? Seems like you're just going after alcoholic chicks "Hobby groups are better for HOBBIES than for cynically milking for dates in my experience," Agreed. "dating apps are just kind of soul sucking, expensive, and distracting from the moment" They don't work if you're not attractive (I'm not either) "I stay out until 2:30 AM just because she “isn’t read…
/r/seduction08/08/24 12:55 AM
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I don't know I've never been in one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:45 PM
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Yeah I used dating apps for years and I never got any girls off them. I think most men don't (unless they have literally zero standards)
/r/seduction07/08/24 11:36 PM
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I personally don't think this works. I think success builds on success and if you don't have any, there's nothing to build on.
/r/seduction07/08/24 11:34 PM
1

Because I know I'm different and it hurts. I make good money too but I have no idea what its for or what I'm working towards. My life feels worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:58 PM
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Thanks
/r/seduction07/08/24 06:41 PM
2

I'm 30 and I've never had a girlfriend and my own family mocks me for it. It's fucking brutal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:41 PM
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I think high value women are loyal, first and foremost, so unfortunately yes they do stay with bad men sometimes. But a good woman knows how to pick a good man, even at a young age
/r/seduction07/08/24 06:36 PM
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I don't know, I mean I don't use the apps so I don't really think about it. "And if you want a gf the really high value women are not on dating apps." High value women get paired up in like high school and college and are long off the market by like 25 at the latest. So I don't know if you're gonna be able to get those, how old are you?
/r/seduction07/08/24 05:27 PM
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I don't see how having success on dating apps is a problem? Why do you feel it's a problem? What's your goal?
/r/seduction07/08/24 05:11 PM
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Yeah I used to download dating apps every few years for a few weeks, get basically zero matches, and then delete them all. I eventually just stopped downloading them
/r/seduction07/08/24 05:05 PM
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Rollo got married like 30 years ago back when it was stupid easy to get women, even 10 years ago it was far easier as dating apps and social media wasn't a thing. I haven't read anything he's written but I know he has no advice that would be useful to someone like me. It's been over 10 years since I've even had sex, at this point I realize it's not gonna happen again and I've honestly gotten more ok with it. I have no idea who Rian is but I assume he's some grifter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:04 PM
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I dont think what I said was blackpilled at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:43 PM
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TRP doesn't give you a long term relationship with a good woman, so it just doesn't appeal to me. You can do whatever you want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:37 PM
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Of course I did, I worked out, I cold approached, I got a better paying job, it doesn't work. I mean it really does just come down to looks. "Sucks, but relationships are temporary." Not really, plenty of guys get good women and stay with them for life. That's just not available to average men anymore. The idea that all relationships are temporary is a cope that redpill guys push because despite all their effort, they can't actually get a lifelong relationship, while other, better looking men ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:58 PM
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I don't think any of the solutions work because again, if they did, Myron or Tate would have been able to find a long term relationship which they obviously can't because no matter what they do, they're still just both ugly guys TRP is just about making money from loser guys like myself. I mean they did that, good for them, but they're selling a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:51 PM
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"If it wasn’t social circles or work (dangerous HR territory) then where?" Women worth dating basically always meet a guy in high school, college, or post grad. "And people approached cause that’s was the process And everyone gets rejected. Even good looking people." Hot guys do not need to approach, women approach them. "The defeatist attitude will always keep those with it defeated because while the guys aren’t bothering to try: millions more are." Again, in my case it's too late. I don't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:20 PM
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"going out where single women like to actually be approached" Plenty of women never go to bars or clubs, I knew some in high school and college, pretty sure they're all married by now. "And don’t have the confidence to approach anyways." I mean I have no idea why any guy would approach a woman, if you were good looking she would approach you. "but we all did it because that’s the process." Good looking guys don't approach and don't get rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:11 PM
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Guys like Myron and Tate don't appeal to me at all because they still can't get a long term relationship with a faithful woman. They are the way they are because they're not good looking guys, even despite working out and probably doing steroids they're both just ugly (I am too) which is why they're so resentful of women (I'm not, but I do hate that I'm ugly)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:09 PM
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I've never been interested in bars and clubs, I don't even drink and there's way, way better looking guys in them than me. 30 is a death sentence for men because any woman worth dating is long off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:05 PM
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It's really painful now that I'm 30 and the entirety of my 20s was wasted with nothing to show for it dating wise (career wise I'm doing OK) because I wasn't good looking enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:57 PM
1

Alpha fucks, beta bucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:26 PM
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If a man is attractive a woman wouldn't care about either though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:20 PM
1

I'm on vyvanse, 30mg. I still have zero appetite, I'm not making excuses, I'm just old dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:40 PM
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"Possibility 1: They don't believe you. If they knew for sure that you didn't "put out for Chad/Tyrone" in the past, they'd be happy to wait, but they can't know that in today's times." I mean it's literally the number 1 thing women lie about and women actively encourage other women to lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:36 PM
1

I'm 30, I used to try to gain muscle when I was younger but I don't really bother anymore, I would mostly just get fat when I tried anyway. I don't really like eating either, especially since I'm on ADHD meds, I just have zero desire for food these days
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:31 PM
1

I'm tall and skinny and I have a big head, not stuff plastic surgery can fix lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:25 PM
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I have been taking dutasteride for around 3-4 months, it's a hair loss drug but it also can significantly lower your sex drive. In some men it causes erectile dysfunction, I haven't noticed that myself, everything still works fine, morning wood, etc. But I have noticed I don't have any desire to even try and date (and even when I was trying it wasn't going well). It's definitely interesting that you can lower your sex drive so much with medication. Personally I like it, I'm not sure what percent…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:18 PM
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It does
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:54 PM
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I'm 30, nothing is gonna change in my life, it's already passed me by
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:45 PM
1

It's not at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:42 PM
1

I've looked into it, but it wouldnt make me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:41 PM
2

yeah this doesnt work
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:40 PM
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I'm rich and it doesn't change anything. It's literally just about looks, specifically genetic qualities you can't ever change.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:19 AM
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No, a man who has casual sex is someone who has average male impulse control. That being said, women probably SHOULD avoid high n count men because that means they have far more options and probably are less willing to settle. Most men don't have casual sex simply because they aren't attractive enough to get it. If women want to avoid men who have had casual sex, I have no problem with that. Generally though, women would be less attracted to a man who has had less sexual partners than her, as it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:40 PM
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Men and women aren't the same, men have a much stronger desire for sex and are more impulsive due to testosterone. And because women have such a high bar for attraction to men, men who don't have casual sex usually only don't because there aren't women who want to have sex with them. "Should women avoid high n cont men or men who have ever had casual sex" It would probably be smarter, I would imagine low n count men are similarly much more loyal. But often women do the exact opposite, women find…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:01 PM
0

At least once a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:20 PM
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I would argue casual sex, even once, is the worst thing a potential female partner could do. It means she has low impulse control, she's willing to lower herself for male validation and she is not worth committing to at all for any man. She's all risk, no reward. Of course you're going to disagree because you're likely done it, probably many times. But my interest in protecting men and their interests, I would never recommend a man commit to a woman with a high bodycount or even one with a low b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:13 PM
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I don't watch any
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:10 PM
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There's plenty of survey data supporting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:56 PM
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I don't think this is true at all, I think almost all women these days have had casual sex at least once, most do it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:23 PM
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Those are inherently feminine things lol. Women need to stop having male children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:04 PM
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Maybe not, I don't really think support groups really help men at all to be honest, they seem designed for women. I think the best thing women can do for men is stop having male children
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:48 PM
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Most men are not attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:47 PM
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Women DON'T find most men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:46 PM
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I doubt these groups are ever going to start. I'm not sure support groups in general help much. I think men just need to focus on other things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:45 PM
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Oh ok cool so you have no response or examples, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:23 PM
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I said that earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:21 PM
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I see plenty of non-fat men with very fat women all the time dude. That's the basis of the whole Plapjack meme that's blowing up right now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:20 PM
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I just searched it myself, the issue they have is with women not admitting to being shallow, not the shallowness in it of itself. Feel free to DM me an example of men complaining about women being shallow itself, I did not see any.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:17 PM
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I think there are still options among very obese and high N women for average men, but I agree it's becoming fewer and fewer and will eventually be none.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:16 PM
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Could you link me a specific example from a redpill guy complaining about women being shallow? The examples that I saw were men upset that women will not ADMIT to being shallow, not the fact that they're shallow itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:15 PM
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This is not true, many men just are unwanted by women. It's not anyone's fault, life isn't fair. Focusing on it is what causes pain and suffering and should be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:14 PM
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What makes you think I am underestimating this? I don't think I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:10 PM
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I do not understand this comment you need to be more descriptive and specific
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:03 PM
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Fat and high N count women are the only options for most men and for a lot of us, we would rather just be alone. There's nothing wrong with picking either option, but men who pick being alone do get shit tons of social shame from family, workplace discrimination. I mean people who have kids get to take 3-4 months off at a lot of places, single people without kids never get any. It's absurd this is still legal, it needs challenged in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:02 PM
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I don't think my attitude is "completely defeatist" at all. I literally said avoid internalizing failure so you can try and find success in other aspects of life. There's support groups for many things, like losing spouses or family members, dealing with terminal disease. What EXACTLY are they discussing there? Is accepting the very real fact that your loved one is dead or that you will die very soon "defeatist"? I mean maybe on some level, but it's also reality. It's stuff we need to process an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:00 PM
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I'm not really sure how this applies to men who have never had a relationship and never will? There's already support groups for divorced guys, like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:57 PM
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I mean literally I'm not low T, I got it measured a few months back, I'm over 800ng/dL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:56 PM
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I've never seen redpill guys resent women for being shallow or insutling. They're upset that women lie to men (I can understand why women do that for the sake of their own safety for example) but that's really the only thing I see them say. Also, women don't just lie to men individually, they lie about men IN GENERAL. Women aren't attracted to most men and most their attraction to guys is involuntary and due to genetic characteristics. Women also string men along they aren't actually attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:53 PM
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"Where do you go from there?" You stop trying to date. You avoid internalizing failure as much as you can so you can still try and find success in other areas of life, career, family (obviously not your own family but extended family can play a role). Many of us would like women to stop making absurd claims that "the bar is on the floor", which is very insulting and hurtful, we know that's not the case and only applies to a small subset of men. Eventually most of us stop thinking of the subject …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:46 PM
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I've tried it, it definitely doesn't work lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:55 AM
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