djbuss Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	The overwhelming are women are painstakingly disingenuous about gender roles. They want gender roles not because "it's sexy" and more because a laziness and convenience To your point about “not following my principles”, I’ll forgive you on this point because I know you don’t understand how research works so my explanation flew over your head. There is decades of research across different fields studying many of the issues people talk about on this sub, but it’s not exhaustive. There are still gaps in the research, which is why it would be foolish for anyone to say that every single question has already been answered. The difference is I’m willing to read before…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/26 10:37 AM
2	The overwhelming are women are painstakingly disingenuous about gender roles. They want gender roles not because "it's sexy" and more because a laziness and convenience I was going to provide links and respond in depth, but she decided to delete her comments because she knew as well as I did that her claims were incorrect. Do you agree with the claims she was making? I have yet to see you make a single comment on this sub that references ANY evidence. If you genuinely believe I don’t have the receipts to back it up then link your sources and I’ll link mine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/26 10:28 AM
–	The overwhelming are women are painstakingly disingenuous about gender roles. They want gender roles not because "it's sexy" and more because a laziness and convenience If you’re asking if ALL of my beliefs are based on research the answer is no. Research can’t construct our world view for us, that’s why it’s important to read as much of it as we can and be willing to challenge our beliefs based on new evidence. You seem skeptical of me specifically though so I’d invite you to point out anything I’ve said that is contradicted by current research. I’m not bothered when evidence challenges my beliefs because I’m willing to change my worldview. The same can’t be s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/26 09:46 AM
0	Preference to not date or marry victims of abuse I have mixed feelings on this. I think it’s okay for men and women to have spaces they can go to vent about their struggles, particularly with people they know can relate and be empathetic. The big caveat is that these spaces will inevitably have different standards for moderation, and there is a lot of grey area between “I go here because I know these people understand me and can help me process the harshness of life” versus “I go here because I hate x group and these people will help me double…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/26 01:00 AM
1	There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test. You didn’t mention flings or short-term relationships specifically, but I can see how it could be inferred from your post. My point in starting with flings is to highlight that what constitutes an acceptable/non-offensive paternity test is very context dependent. If we grant that short-term or unexpected circumstances are admissible here then all we’re really left with is a scenario where a man decides to get a paternity test for no other reason than that he has a deep-seated ideological convict…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 11:56 PM
2	I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get women It’s probably a bit reductionist but personally I think relationships are largely just friendships with an added layer of physical attraction and all of the emotions that come with that. If you meet someone that is romantically interested in you but is super dry I think one of two scenarios is most likely the case: 1. They are boring in general, even within their own established friend circle (or their understanding of humor doesn’t make sense to you in a subjective way) 2. They don’t desire a r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 11:32 PM
–	The overwhelming are women are painstakingly disingenuous about gender roles. They want gender roles not because "it's sexy" and more because a laziness and convenience Are your beliefs on this based on peer-reviewed research or just based on what best serves the conclusion you already decided on? I already know the answer but curious if you are self-aware.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 11:17 PM
1	I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get women Btw, please don’t take this post as a personal offense. Rhetorically, it is somewhat accusatory, but I understand sometimes people just need a place to vent their least charitable takes, even if it’s only a small component of their competing personal beliefs and they are much more agreeable in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 10:47 PM
1	I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get women Have you considered that you may have biases that cloud your ability to judge funniness? This study tested differences in ratings of “funniness” for audio clips vs videos vs photos and found an attractiveness halo effect for the video/photo test condition. You seem to have already categorized these example men as not in your league. Which came first? This chicken or the egg scenario is an important distinction because even if you ignore evidence on the attractiveness halo effect, there are still…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 10:38 PM
2	There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test. These are bad faith arguments, and it sounds like you care more about venting than examining your own beliefs, but I’ll humor you anyways. A paternity test is a financial abortion. The fact that a fetus isn’t being terminated doesn’t change the parallel of men/women exercising their agency in the only way that is biologically/legally available to them. I also don’t agree that a woman’s “right to get pissed” hinges on the % of women that are faithful. It implies that there is a magical number of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 10:02 AM
0	There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test. I agree with this framing. People SHOULD discuss things like abortion or paternity testing before having sex. The issue is that it isn’t normalized and shoehorning these kinds of things in before sex feels unnatural for many people. No man or woman should be demonized for not discussing these things beforehand. They are reactionary measures that are good for society and protect our right to exercise our own agency.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 07:54 AM
1	There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test. You claim to care about agency but it only matters to you when it’s convenient for your personal beliefs. If you were intellectually consistent, taking this stance on paternity testing would mean that if a woman doesn’t discuss abortion before having sex then it is immoral to have an abortion. If you disagree with that idea then you should reflect on why your principles seem to disappear when your own interests aren’t at stake.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 07:37 AM
0	There is no excuse for a man to wait until after a woman is pregnant to tell her that he wants a paternity test. No man who gets laid on the regular is throwing out paternity test disclaimers to every single fling or situationship. This is a fantasy for Reddit weirdos that think every opportunity for sex should be treated like a feminist legal contract. By the way, this is the same logic conservatives use to argue against abortion: Oh you don’t want a child? Maybe you should have used a condom. Oh well can’t do anything now abortion is immoral. Oh you don’t know if the child is yours? Too bad, everyone kno…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 07:25 AM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? So refreshing to see this after reading the rest of this thread. It really does seem like it’s just lonely and angry men and women on this sub seeing how far they can radicalize themselves in the opposite direction of whoever they hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 03:19 AM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? “it is hard to see men as human when” This is the type of thing only someone who is clinically online would type. You followed it up with a cherry-picked laundry list of examples from other clinically online people who (just like you) have self-selected into weird gender war echo chamber communities. That’s why I only come back to this sub occasionally. If I started to believe you all were normal rather than radicalized shut-ins I would also have some pretty unsavory beliefs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 03:11 AM
2	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date I view this 50/50 stuff the same way I view politics. If you’re willing to drain your mental energy and handicap your outcomes in life just to prove a point or because you believe you’re moving the societal needle in some way, go right ahead. I’d caution any other guy against splitting hairs over “principles” like this. Outside of fringe online echo chambers, the majority of people are open-minded and willing to accommodate a wide variety of quirks/beliefs if you’re fun to be around. That said, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 10:45 PM
15	Why do men think there are so many good men When you add finances to your definition of a good man you are by default removing the average man from your equation. The average man’s salary is not suitable for raising a family comfortably. At that point you might as well ask, why is capitalism the way it is? In a broader sense, I don’t think it’s useful to focus on a question like “are most men moral?” Men and women of similar dispositions will find each other. If the men available to you aren’t desirable, maybe reflect on why that’s the on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/25 01:51 AM
4	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. The contradiction is that you are giving the same “be nice” advice just with more words. It’s still useless. Women DO hide the truth about sexual desires mattering. That’s the exact thing I’ve been saying in my comments that you’ve conveniently ignored. You copy/pasting your post is a function of intellectual laziness, don’t put that on me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 09:59 AM
4	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. First you argue that men are lying to themselves if they don’t develop past “be nice” dating advice. Now you say that being an unlikable asshole is a hindrance to dating, so we’ve come full circle. You just gave the exact advice that doesn’t work for men, judged them for being lied to, and you don’t even see the irony of it. Being unlikable and an asshole are two different things. Plenty of male assholes have no issues with dating. The stuff that I can get away with saying on Tinder and still ge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 09:25 AM
12	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. The advice you get as a boy from your mother is the same advice women will give you later as a man. It doesn’t stop based on age. The only thing that changes is men that don’t get laid eventually figure out that they can’t rely on women for dating advice. Not sure what your second sentence has to do with the argument. This isn’t a me issue, I figured out how to get laid a long time ago. I’m just saying that it should be easy to empathize with men that struggle with this. Modern dating is confusi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 09:10 AM
10	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. If you grow up hearing bad advice/lies about dating, and you internalize that advice, were you lying to yourself, or did you get lied to? Any rational person would say you were lied to but that you have an opportunity to overcome those lies by putting in extra effort to find the truth. Again, I understand your post, you’re just framing things in a very weird and incorrect way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:45 AM
11	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. Typically discussions work by responding to arguments, not by passive aggressively copy/pasting your original argument. The section you copied isn’t confusing, it’s just wrong. Men’s understanding of dating is heavily influenced by societal norms and beliefs. The red pill exists exactly because traditional dating advice is extremely misleading for boys and men of all ages.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:36 AM
13	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. Look I’m not usually one to engage in popularity contests but a quick look through your post history shows that you get many comments on your posts and no upvotes. Nobody can understand your verbal diarrhea. If you can’t communicate clearly that is exactly what happens. There are plenty of posters on here with varied viewpoints that can write clear posts and engage in meaningful discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:32 AM
8	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. After re-reading your post it sounds like we are probably in agreement that sexual attraction is important, but I definitely don’t agree with your sentiment that men are to blame if they didn’t pick up on it. Blue pill isn’t really a pill, it’s the default mindset of society. If boys grow up hearing generic feel good dating advice, they are going to believe it and get frustrated when actions don’t match words. While I can’t relate to incels, I can empathize with how they’ve been lead astray by t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:28 AM
14	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. I read your post, quite thoroughly actually. The issue is that your argument is incoherent. Can you restate what your actual argument is if it’s not consistent with the post title?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:21 AM
34	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. This is a strange hill to die on because “be nice to women” is actually the blue pill holy grail of dating advice. Men aren’t confused about this, they’ve heard it loud and clear growing up. The frustrations with dating come not from “being mean” but with the unspoken part of sexual attraction which is that no amount of being nice will make up for a lack of physical attraction/mental stimulation. If being nice was all it took incels wouldn’t even exist. Most of them started out as awkward “nice …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:14 AM
–	Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anything Good point, and I think that’s a big part of why we see the difference. White collar job supply is controlled by economics and new-grads are increasingly finding that those jobs are over saturated at the entry level. Men are generally more willing and more able to sacrifice their physical health to get more pay. The bigger issue in this post though is the pointless moralizing of gender & capitalism. Nobody should be assigning altruistic intentions to women for providing or making money. Just lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/25 06:12 AM
–	Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anything This comment is pretty ironic because the OP’s entire premise is that women are expanding their gender roles by taking a more “provider”-focused path in life. Men are willing to take those roles at the expense of their own health because money is very important in dating and to society. That is directly due to gender roles. If it’s not noble for men to chop a few digits off their hand for money then it’s also not noble for women to girlboss their way into a fat paycheck. Both are competing for m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/25 02:49 AM
0	Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ? Yep it is absolutely related, and likely by design as well. The gender war is how the working class stays distracted from the real issue of class warfare. Personally I think that improving economic disparity in the US would make a lot of the central themes of the gender war a non-issue, and would be self-resolved as people figure out what they truly want out of their relationships, traditional or non-traditional. On the flip-side, we don’t know how many women might genuinely desire traditional r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/25 01:17 AM
0	Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ? I think bringing up religion here only makes sense under the assumption that keeping traditional gender roles necessitates a complete regression of culture back to those times. Plenty of traditions like religion were significant culturally but only tangential to traditional gender roles. The primary purpose of gender roles is division of labor and economic responsibility. The fact is that the working class and the middle class have been priced out of following a single-earner household model. Ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/25 12:52 AM
1	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg Your tone is dripping with anger, but I’m sure you know that. It’s fine though, if you enjoy spending time fighting the culture war then do your thing. I just think it’s an unfulfilling and self-agitating way to live.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 01:53 AM
1	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg Why do you engage on this sub if it gets you so angry? Red pill and blue pill have their own echo chambers. If you don’t like one “side” you could simply not engage with them here or anywhere else. I thought the purpose of this sub is to bridge the gap between the two and promote healthy discussion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 01:43 AM
1	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg The vast majority of the time when someone uses market value in relation to dating they are just talking about attraction. You seem familiar with attraction already so the only reason to argue in the way you have in these comments is if you’re specifically looking for a red-piller to fight with so you can put them in the box you already decided they were in. Like it or not, regular people with a wide variety of beliefs are now using the term to refer to attraction. Additional assumptions are you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 01:31 AM
1	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg It only makes sense to you because you’re not seeking to understand or debate. You have a bone to pick with red pillers and it’s easier to vent your anger by burying them in questions and bad faith debate tactics than to explain your own beliefs and open up a genuine dialogue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 01:09 AM
1	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg Mate value is just a loaded term used by the manosphere to reframe attraction as transactional. Focusing on that specific term instead of the underlying concepts of attraction is a distraction unless you’re interested in culture war arguments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 12:02 AM
2	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg Already listed some options: appearance, personality traits, lifestyle, and socioeconomic status. Do you believe any of these factors influence human behavior in dating?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/25 11:34 PM
0	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg I already told you I agree with you. There is no objective equation for mate attractiveness. Just like there is no equation for customer favorability of a product. An equation is not needed, subjective constructs can still be measured and those measurements are useful even when not exact. I’m trying to dig deeper and find the exact boundaries of your beliefs so we can have a civil discussion. Is that okay with you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/25 11:28 PM
2	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg I’m not asking if you believe there is a rigid equation that can be used to calculate human value. I don’t personally believe that exists and won’t bother answering questions about it. I’m asking you if you think these factors influence attractiveness at all, regardless of how specific the influence can be quantified. For example, in market research companies will use surveys and focus groups to gauge subjective customer favorability of certain features of their product. It’s not exact like calc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/25 11:07 PM
0	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg Do you agree or disagree that differences in appearance, personality traits, lifestyle, and socioeconomic status heavily influence how attractive an individual would be rated by the population (on average)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/25 10:37 PM
6	Men think they are more attractive than they really are This is hilarious because it once again highlights what women think about average men. They are so invisible to you that you genuinely believe Timothee or Pedro are a good barometer for the potential of an average man. Giving Billy no-chin a skin care routine, wardrobe, and set of weights isn’t going to change his bone structure. The Timothee example is particularly egregious because his face and bone structure is just miles different from the average man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/25 04:25 AM
3	The red pill ideology does not hold true for most high status individuals This is just cope for stem majors that don’t have the social IQ to advance their career through relationship-building and soft skills. The more your career advances from the individual contributor level, the less your performance relies on technical problem-solving. It’s a different kind of intelligence. If you want to keep your definition of intelligence narrow be my guest, but being “smart” as a stem major doesn’t mean you would be “smart” as a lawyer because it requires a very different skill…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/25 07:56 AM
3	There is no dating app data The source is accurate you just don’t have basic reading comprehension. Anyways good luck fighting your culture war on Reddit I’m done doing charity work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 04:15 AM
2	There is no dating app data I already explained why you “applying it both ways” was incorrect. Men swiping right on the most attractive women does not preclude them from also swiping right on less attractive users. The issue is that men are less picky and will swipe on a broader range of attractiveness INCLUDING the most attractive women. Did you even read the study? You seem to be pretty happy letting me spoon feed it to you and taking it at face value. If you don’t comprehend it at this point it’s because you don’t have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 03:55 AM
2	There is no dating app data Attractiveness/appearance are interchangeable in this context. Take your L you dweeb.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 03:47 AM
3	There is no dating app data The research shows that women pursue the most attractive users, regardless of their own attractiveness. Men will swipe right on the attractive profiles AND the less attractive profiles. The women swipe on the most attractive profiles. You are the living embodiment of Dunning-Kruger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 03:41 AM
3	There is no dating app data No, because women only swipe right on 7%. You can’t just admit you were wrong?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 03:30 AM
1	There is no dating app data They don’t ONLY pursue the most attractive women, they pursue a large % of the women. It’s different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 03:01 AM
2	There is no dating app data The data shows otherwise. Now that you have data you just don’t like the answers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 02:59 AM
2	There is no dating app data No because men are willing to be less selective and swipe right on a large % of profiles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 02:41 AM
3	There is no dating app data (Tyson et al. (2016)): “Perhaps most profound is the tendency towards homophily for users of online dating services, i.e., the propensity to pursue partners who are similar to themselves [21]. Interestingly, however, Hitsch et al. noted that in online settings, users tend to break away from traditional models of homophily measured by attractiveness; instead, users pursue attractive users regardless of their own appearance.” Because the research shows that this is the case. Users swipe right on t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 02:14 AM
3	There is no dating app data If you had a sample population of 100 men rated on attractiveness by women, and those ratings were highly consistent, then you had the women swipe right on the 7 they find most attractive, the 7 picks would also be highly consistent among the women. Do you agree?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 01:11 AM
4	There is no dating app data Help me understand what issue you see with that statement. Do you believe that the 7% of profiles they swipe right on are not the profiles they find most attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 12:29 AM
2	There is no dating app data I definitely agree that online dating behavior is different from real life. Here’s an interesting quote I saw in one of the studies (Tyson et al. (2016)): “Perhaps most profound is the tendency towards homophily for users of online dating services, i.e., the propensity to pursue partners who are similar to themselves [21]. Interestingly, however, Hitsch et al. noted that in online settings, users tend to break away from traditional models of homophily measured by attractiveness; instead, users p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 12:20 AM
7	There is no dating app data If women swipe right on 7% of profiles (the 7% they find most attractive) and research shows women are consistent in rating who is most attractive, then it logically follows that the 7% would have a high degree of overlap (the same men). Can you articulate where the issue is here? I’m genuinely trying to understand why this doesn’t make sense to you. You’re giving me one sentence responses instead of explaining yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 11:46 PM
3	There is no dating app data It’s literally the example you used in your post. Is your argument here that women don’t swipe right on the profiles they find most attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 11:24 PM
7	There is no dating app data If women agree on who is most attractive and only swipe on the 7% they find most attractive, that would be a small proportion of men getting all the matches. Are you slow or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 10:06 PM
8	There is no dating app data Why did you tag this thread as a debate if you didn’t intend on looking at any data that’s provided? I gave examples of multiple studies with data showing exactly what you just quoted. You can look for yourself at the studies to see their methodology and data/results. Were you looking for someone to spoon-feed you the numbers and calculations used in the study?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 09:39 PM
8	There is no dating app data If women swipe right on 7% of men and have a high degree of inter-rater reliability when rating attractiveness, then yes, the data would suggest that even accounting for differences in preference that 7% would still only account for a much smaller proportion of men. Whether the actual number is 20%, 30%, or 40% is up for debate but I’d like you to show me any evidence indicating there would be little overlap among the 7%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 07:01 PM
6	There is no dating app data I just gave you a bunch of data. If you want to engage with the most extreme version of their argument that’s your prerogative, but a more good-faith interpretation is that there is convincing evidence that a smaller population of men receive a disproportionate amount of the matches/attention from women in OLD, based on what research suggests about the consistency of male attractiveness indicators. Do you have evidence suggesting otherwise? I would be curious to see what research you used to inf…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 06:47 PM
12	There is no dating app data You won’t find data that specific because the companies that run these dating apps have a financial incentive to covet their data and analysis of dating trends. As you said, It’s clear that women are pickier in OLD. If you agree that women swipe right on the 7% of men they find most attractive, then the sticking point is to what degree do we expect that women’s ratings of male attractiveness are uniform. Generally research shows that women have fairly consistent ratings of male attractiveness ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 05:48 PM