djbuss Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
15	Why do men think there are so many good men When you add finances to your definition of a good man you are by default removing the average man from your equation. The average man’s salary is not suitable for raising a family comfortably. At that point you might as well ask, why is capitalism the way it is? In a broader sense, I don’t think it’s useful to focus on a question like “are most men moral?” Men and women of similar dispositions will find each other. If the men available to you aren’t desirable, maybe reflect on why that’s the on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/25 01:51 AM
12	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. The advice you get as a boy from your mother is the same advice women will give you later as a man. It doesn’t stop based on age. The only thing that changes is men that don’t get laid eventually figure out that they can’t rely on women for dating advice. Not sure what your second sentence has to do with the argument. This isn’t a me issue, I figured out how to get laid a long time ago. I’m just saying that it should be easy to empathize with men that struggle with this. Modern dating is confusi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 09:10 AM
10	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. If you grow up hearing bad advice/lies about dating, and you internalize that advice, were you lying to yourself, or did you get lied to? Any rational person would say you were lied to but that you have an opportunity to overcome those lies by putting in extra effort to find the truth. Again, I understand your post, you’re just framing things in a very weird and incorrect way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:45 AM
11	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. Typically discussions work by responding to arguments, not by passive aggressively copy/pasting your original argument. The section you copied isn’t confusing, it’s just wrong. Men’s understanding of dating is heavily influenced by societal norms and beliefs. The red pill exists exactly because traditional dating advice is extremely misleading for boys and men of all ages.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:36 AM
13	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. Look I’m not usually one to engage in popularity contests but a quick look through your post history shows that you get many comments on your posts and no upvotes. Nobody can understand your verbal diarrhea. If you can’t communicate clearly that is exactly what happens. There are plenty of posters on here with varied viewpoints that can write clear posts and engage in meaningful discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:32 AM
8	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. After re-reading your post it sounds like we are probably in agreement that sexual attraction is important, but I definitely don’t agree with your sentiment that men are to blame if they didn’t pick up on it. Blue pill isn’t really a pill, it’s the default mindset of society. If boys grow up hearing generic feel good dating advice, they are going to believe it and get frustrated when actions don’t match words. While I can’t relate to incels, I can empathize with how they’ve been lead astray by t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:28 AM
14	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. I read your post, quite thoroughly actually. The issue is that your argument is incoherent. Can you restate what your actual argument is if it’s not consistent with the post title?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:21 AM
34	No one told men that good manners and good morals translated to sexual desire within most women. This is a strange hill to die on because “be nice to women” is actually the blue pill holy grail of dating advice. Men aren’t confused about this, they’ve heard it loud and clear growing up. The frustrations with dating come not from “being mean” but with the unspoken part of sexual attraction which is that no amount of being nice will make up for a lack of physical attraction/mental stimulation. If being nice was all it took incels wouldn’t even exist. Most of them started out as awkward “nice …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 08:14 AM
–	Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anything Good point, and I think that’s a big part of why we see the difference. White collar job supply is controlled by economics and new-grads are increasingly finding that those jobs are over saturated at the entry level. Men are generally more willing and more able to sacrifice their physical health to get more pay. The bigger issue in this post though is the pointless moralizing of gender & capitalism. Nobody should be assigning altruistic intentions to women for providing or making money. Just lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/25 06:12 AM
–	Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anything This comment is pretty ironic because the OP’s entire premise is that women are expanding their gender roles by taking a more “provider”-focused path in life. Men are willing to take those roles at the expense of their own health because money is very important in dating and to society. That is directly due to gender roles. If it’s not noble for men to chop a few digits off their hand for money then it’s also not noble for women to girlboss their way into a fat paycheck. Both are competing for m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/25 02:49 AM
0	Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ? Yep it is absolutely related, and likely by design as well. The gender war is how the working class stays distracted from the real issue of class warfare. Personally I think that improving economic disparity in the US would make a lot of the central themes of the gender war a non-issue, and would be self-resolved as people figure out what they truly want out of their relationships, traditional or non-traditional. On the flip-side, we don’t know how many women might genuinely desire traditional r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/25 01:17 AM
0	Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ? I think bringing up religion here only makes sense under the assumption that keeping traditional gender roles necessitates a complete regression of culture back to those times. Plenty of traditions like religion were significant culturally but only tangential to traditional gender roles. The primary purpose of gender roles is division of labor and economic responsibility. The fact is that the working class and the middle class have been priced out of following a single-earner household model. Ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/25 12:52 AM
2	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg Already listed some options: appearance, personality traits, lifestyle, and socioeconomic status. Do you believe any of these factors influence human behavior in dating?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/25 11:34 PM
0	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg I already told you I agree with you. There is no objective equation for mate attractiveness. Just like there is no equation for customer favorability of a product. An equation is not needed, subjective constructs can still be measured and those measurements are useful even when not exact. I’m trying to dig deeper and find the exact boundaries of your beliefs so we can have a civil discussion. Is that okay with you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/25 11:28 PM
2	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg I’m not asking if you believe there is a rigid equation that can be used to calculate human value. I don’t personally believe that exists and won’t bother answering questions about it. I’m asking you if you think these factors influence attractiveness at all, regardless of how specific the influence can be quantified. For example, in market research companies will use surveys and focus groups to gauge subjective customer favorability of certain features of their product. It’s not exact like calc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/25 11:07 PM
0	If you lack options for ltr as a male you aren't avg Do you agree or disagree that differences in appearance, personality traits, lifestyle, and socioeconomic status heavily influence how attractive an individual would be rated by the population (on average)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/25 10:37 PM
3	The red pill ideology does not hold true for most high status individuals This is just cope for stem majors that don’t have the social IQ to advance their career through relationship-building and soft skills. The more your career advances from the individual contributor level, the less your performance relies on technical problem-solving. It’s a different kind of intelligence. If you want to keep your definition of intelligence narrow be my guest, but being “smart” as a stem major doesn’t mean you would be “smart” as a lawyer because it requires a very different skill…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/25 07:56 AM
2	There is no dating app data I definitely agree that online dating behavior is different from real life. Here’s an interesting quote I saw in one of the studies (Tyson et al. (2016)): “Perhaps most profound is the tendency towards homophily for users of online dating services, i.e., the propensity to pursue partners who are similar to themselves [21]. Interestingly, however, Hitsch et al. noted that in online settings, users tend to break away from traditional models of homophily measured by attractiveness; instead, users p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 12:20 AM
7	There is no dating app data If women agree on who is most attractive and only swipe on the 7% they find most attractive, that would be a small proportion of men getting all the matches. Are you slow or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 10:06 PM
8	There is no dating app data Why did you tag this thread as a debate if you didn’t intend on looking at any data that’s provided? I gave examples of multiple studies with data showing exactly what you just quoted. You can look for yourself at the studies to see their methodology and data/results. Were you looking for someone to spoon-feed you the numbers and calculations used in the study?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 09:39 PM
8	There is no dating app data If women swipe right on 7% of men and have a high degree of inter-rater reliability when rating attractiveness, then yes, the data would suggest that even accounting for differences in preference that 7% would still only account for a much smaller proportion of men. Whether the actual number is 20%, 30%, or 40% is up for debate but I’d like you to show me any evidence indicating there would be little overlap among the 7%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 07:01 PM
6	There is no dating app data I just gave you a bunch of data. If you want to engage with the most extreme version of their argument that’s your prerogative, but a more good-faith interpretation is that there is convincing evidence that a smaller population of men receive a disproportionate amount of the matches/attention from women in OLD, based on what research suggests about the consistency of male attractiveness indicators. Do you have evidence suggesting otherwise? I would be curious to see what research you used to inf…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 06:47 PM
12	There is no dating app data You won’t find data that specific because the companies that run these dating apps have a financial incentive to covet their data and analysis of dating trends. As you said, It’s clear that women are pickier in OLD. If you agree that women swipe right on the 7% of men they find most attractive, then the sticking point is to what degree do we expect that women’s ratings of male attractiveness are uniform. Generally research shows that women have fairly consistent ratings of male attractiveness ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 05:48 PM