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dogenes09/r/TheRedPill17/04/19 03:03 AM
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Congrats. You’re doing one of the hardest things a man can do, emotionally. Most of us would risk physical injury before we risk rejection. The fact that you tried five times put you above everyone who didn’t try once. And yes, the more you practice the better you’ll get. Do you know what your sticking point was?
/r/seduction16/05/26 11:31 PM
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Yet to be seen.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/26 04:00 AM
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You could have done it better, but it's less about "desperate and jealous" and more about "you called her out on a lie as your opening salvo." Yeah she coulda loled and said, "Busted!" And thats probably what you were hoping. But it was too early to take the chance. Esp over text where subtext and body language and tonality is removed. Edit: And when you start justifying with the "Just didnt..." kiss of death. Sorry bro.
/r/seduction21/10/25 03:36 AM
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Venusian Arts Handbook/Mystery Method. More than anything it taught me how to just comfortable socially. People laugh at it, but it's still the most incredibly concise synthesis on how to pick up women the way they want to be picked up that has ever been written. I've never really seen a criticism of it that wasn't just based on the person not reading the whole thing or understanding the specific context. Later versions started to focus too much on "living a rockstar life" and same-night-lays an…
/r/seduction25/09/25 06:22 PM
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Steak restaurants and hotel bars.
/r/seduction28/07/25 09:57 AM
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There are repercussions, they are just too blitzed to realize them being 42 and single is one of them.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/25 08:23 PM
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My bad- tonality is hard to catch online :)
/r/TheRedPill24/07/25 08:22 PM
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That’s just your excuse. Plenty of short guys out here putting up numbers. Going south of 5’5 makes difficulty go up, for sure, but not even close to impossible if you develop and learn game.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/25 03:39 PM
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You’re right. If a girl screams fuck off at you, the problem WASNT you. It was your approach.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/25 03:37 PM
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I know short, physically unattractive and quasi-neurodivergent guys who get laid just fine. I know tall, handsome guys who are black pilled af. You’re oversimplifying.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/25 03:36 PM
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"...it’s a lot of emotional wandering dressed up as growth." -Underrated Observation One of the better posts ever put here. Well done Benji.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/25 04:45 PM
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Yes. And it's a perishable skill. Work on it and youll be able to talk to anyone. Stop working on it and a few months later approach anxiety will be back to normal levels. But the nice thing is when you return to practice you'll get back to your former level fast.
/r/seduction18/02/25 04:40 AM
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Drink a glass of water with a lime, it will look like a gin and tonic. Don't approach drunk girls. If one approaches you, make her a friend and use her as a pivot.
/r/seduction17/02/25 05:12 PM
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It’s an important life skill that goes well beyond pickup. Can you adapt to be appropriate to the situation in less than a second? You’re walking down the street angry, but a kid comes up and asks for something to eat- can you adjust the be the compassionate person they need in under a second? You’re walking with your girl after a date, laughing, flirting and having a good time- suddenly 3 guys jump out of the shadows with obvious ill-intent… can you go from entertainer to fighter in less than o…
/r/seduction17/02/25 04:57 PM
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Women dont approach. General fact of life. If you want women, even if you ARE a woman, you will need to learn to approach. Good news: you can, and it will help tremendously. Also- just being real, short-hair, overweight, and not very feminine, is a tough trio. Change just one of those and you'll have better results. But the main thing is learning to approach. Having some game is non-negotiable.
/r/seduction15/02/25 04:56 PM
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My man trying to be Captain Save-A-Hoe.
/r/seduction06/02/25 04:20 PM
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Single parent support groups
/r/seduction29/01/25 10:37 PM
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Directness, calibration, and perspective. The chief technical difference obviously is that in one you are complimenting the dress (and by association, her and her style choices) and in the other you are complimenting HER more directly, using the dress. But the implications are many. In both cases the communication is similar, but depending on the situation they can have very different impacts. For instance, in some cases it might be a bit to forward to just compliment HER ("You look great in tha…
/r/seduction18/01/25 01:15 AM
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One of the worst parts of modern dating is how often you will go on a date that seems to go very well, and then they ghost you. Dates with no chemistry suck, but at least you know; but when the date seemed to go well and she seemed into you, then ghosts, that messes with your sense of reality.
/r/seduction06/01/25 08:28 PM
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Neither is better. It’s all about the context and variables. Complimenting the dress is a bit more impersonal. Probably better for a girl you just met. Complimenting how she looks in the dress is more direct and addressing her and her appearance.
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:47 PM
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Looks beautiful on my floor. :)
/r/seduction06/01/25 04:49 AM
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Over the shoulder- always over the shoulder lol
/r/seduction04/01/25 11:13 PM
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Compliments work fine, just have to understand the essence. You can't compliment her looks- because they dont really say anything about HER. You have to give a compliment that says something about HER. "I like your style," "those boots are rad," etc. The goal is to make her feel like you saw something in her that other don't- or at least that she was telegraphing with the hope people will notice. Also- contemplate the difference between these two: "You look great in that dress." "That dress look…
/r/seduction04/01/25 11:11 PM
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I always liked “How do you both know each other?” Easy, non-telegraphing, and if the guy isn’t her bf she’ll either tell you immediately, or his body language will. 😆
/r/seduction30/12/24 07:15 PM
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“How do you all know each other…”
/r/seduction24/12/24 08:07 AM
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Same. It’s unnecessary. Don’t sweat it.
/r/seduction10/11/24 03:20 PM
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You’re literally arguing with yourself while demonstrating you didn’t understand the original point. Your lack of situational awareness is kinda cute. Good for you.
/r/seduction08/11/24 08:34 PM
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It’s a real moment from a documentary. So yes. It is real. And it was shared between men because we feel comfortable sharing vulnerability with other men at times. We don’t feel comfortable sharing it with women because it usually has a negative effect. That was the point- not that men DONT have other vulnerabilities than those which involve the more masculine sides No way I’m reading that wall of nonsense and confusion you just posted. above. Peace.
/r/seduction08/11/24 07:33 PM
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You're speaking without experience, and everyone here can tell. You're also confused about what we are saying. It's not a 1 dimensional view of men, its addressing the reality that WOMEN do not want to see their man vulnerable and will NOT become more attracted to him because he shows vulnerability. No one is arguing this is the way it SHOULD be. Only that it is the way it IS. Countless men have made the mistake of showing vulnerability too early, in the wrong way, or at all, and suffered the co…
/r/seduction08/11/24 04:02 PM
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No. It’s a realistic view of women and their reaction to men being vulnerable. There’s a reason so many men are reluctant, and can tell stories of when they were pressured into showing vulnerability, only for it to backfire.
/r/seduction08/11/24 01:15 PM
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It’s like the vulnerability has to be sincere, and it has to reflect primal urges or fears that reinforce the image that women WANT to believe about you.
/r/seduction08/11/24 01:49 AM
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In the show Long Way Round, Ewan McGregor and his friend Charley Boorman are preparing to ride their motorcycles around the world. As part of their prep they attend a first-aid/emergency med class. At one point they are discussing different ways to check breathing and the teacher says, "You can put a mirror underneath their nose and see if it fogs up." Charlie then says, "I used to do that with my daughter when she was a baby. I'd get worried/up in my head that something had happened and so I'd …
/r/seduction07/11/24 10:44 PM
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There are many women who may truly want you but would never do any of this. Many women lack the courage to approach a man they like. Most in fact. No different than men. In some respects, harder (mentally.)
/r/seduction05/11/24 07:49 PM
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This girl trying to get you shot.
/r/seduction04/11/24 06:42 PM
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If you are going to define writing the Declaration of Independence, or being influential via writing as "charisma," then I agree with you. We are only a cross on how we are defining charisma. Most people use it to refer to that interpersonal skill of looking someone direct in the eye and making them feel like they are the center of attention. Thus the paradox of charisma- it's about putting the focus on them, not pulling it to you. Many leaders lack interpersonal skills and are not good in perso…
/r/seduction31/10/24 12:14 AM
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You don't live in the USA obviously. And in fact, Thomas Jefferson was said to be a poor public speaker and generally not charismatic. But he was an incredible leader and beyond influential. And was reputed to get a lot of attention from women, but in the US, England, and France.
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:35 PM
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Disagree. Women will go for a leader or man with influence who isnt charismatic. Likewise, charisma will open doors but it has as short half-life. It's a learnable trait, vs leader/influence is more "earned" and has outside validation.
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:06 PM
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I think you're on the right track, but we need to distinguish between "Leadership" and "Influence." Rock stars and teeny movie stars aren't necessarily "leaders" but have influence. It's not one or the other, but a more nuanced understanding of what women are attracted to. Good work.
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:49 PM
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Mid-30s is pretty normal to "find your voice" and start feeling comfortable in your own skin as a guy.
/r/seduction30/10/24 02:09 PM
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Not if you do it confidently and without expectations. I know most of the advice you are getting here is garbage. "Just go talk to her" is like "Just be cool." If you could do that you'd probably not be asking on reddit. Here is some high-level useful advice: 1) If she doesn't know you exist you may want to unfollow her on instagram first. 2) You have to go talk to her, but it's ok to be nervous- only remember: It's all just practice. 3) Dont be afraid to tell her you aren't good at flirting- es…
/r/seduction30/10/24 01:56 PM
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The Venusian Arts Handbook, available online, is really the apex of the method. Before that it was still a bit undercooked. After that they over-engineered and removed key ingredients.
/r/seduction22/10/24 10:06 PM
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The point is telling a nerdy awkward dude to "just go talk to women" is bad advice because it does nothing to acknowledge or resolve the natural fear and conflict they feel about doing it. Also, without at least some idea of what they are doing they are very likely to have at least a few bad experiences to start with, which in some cases can be sufficient to slow progress dramatically. Courage comes from knowledge and training. That's the point of learning.
/r/seduction22/10/24 04:38 AM
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Honestly, I think easing in and warming up are essential in learning, but you can get lost in the shallows. The goal should always be to progress as quickly as possibly to opening the girls you WANT to open, or even those who intimidate you to open. It's easy to open when you don't really care, but when you see the right girl and your brain goes, "Whoa- that one," there's no way around feeling a bit of pressure.
/r/seduction22/10/24 01:37 AM
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Who is telling young men they need to build rapport with Jamal before they talk to a girl? I think you may be projecting and mad about a problem that doesn't exist. Most game assumes that if you can just go up to women and talk to them you're already ahead of most guys learning. I suppose "if you're a nerdy, awkward dude and wanna learn to talk to women, just go talk to them," sounds like good advice in your head- but it's really not. It really just shows you don't understand the problem.
/r/seduction22/10/24 01:34 AM
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You SHOULD say you are waiting for friends, or something similar- aka the "false time constraint." When you are a lone guy and you start talking to girls, even if they like you, a part of their mind is saying, "How long is he gonna be here? Sure He's cool now, but what if he start to suck and wont go away." Especially for a group of girls one of the worst things that can happen on a night out is a guy starts hanging around your group trying to bang you and just wont go away, short of you having …
/r/seduction13/10/24 06:24 PM
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Next time you see her walk right up and introduce yourself. Apologize for not approaching last time. If you can smile, make eye contact, and come off confident you can even straight tell her, "I wanted to come say hi but you made me kinda nervous, [wink] and I was regretting it the rest of the day." Just make sure it comes out strong and sincere, and not weak and scared.
/r/seduction07/10/24 03:06 PM
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Can confirm. Mexican women are largely similar. This is the reason for all those Latina memes you’ve been reading OP.
/r/seduction05/10/24 02:09 AM
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Role-playing. Nuff said.
/r/seduction04/10/24 08:20 AM
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But this is the definition of self-limiting belief. Nowadays many beautiful women are NOT approached directly in a bar because they have their friends, they seem unapproachable, and there just aren't a lot of men anymore who know how to do it- at least without coming off badly. Indirect may be the safest, but if you know how to just walk up, smile, make eye contact, and be confident, it isn't a bad approach at all (variables and situational awareness notwithstanding.)
/r/seduction04/10/24 12:50 AM
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Yeah, that hasn't been my experience. If a woman isn't shit testing, she's probably low value, or isn't interested. Usually it is the high value women doing strong shit tests as filters, but definitely insecure women shit-testing cause they are scared. But all high value women shit test- except those so high value there ARE NO low value men around them, ever. lol.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/24 09:02 PM
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"Shit tests aren’t the problem. You are the problem." You need a mirror. Most quality woman will shit-test. It's a natural reaction of being high-value as a woman. Women who don't shit-test tend to be low quality women. Some would even use the S word.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/24 03:13 PM
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“Loss of inhibition is crucial to your success here tonight. Alcohol has been an important social lubricant for thousands of years. You thought you were just going to walk in here tonight and reinvent the wheel? Please.” -Roger Dodger But in reality, you should take such that alcohol isn’t a factor.
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:32 AM
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Because intelligence increases your survivability, and the survivability of those around you.
/r/seduction19/08/24 04:53 AM
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The key to flirting without being too obvious (in case she has a husband or someone watching) is to always point your feet and hips in another direction. It’s like approaching indirectly. If you’re talking to her slightly over your shoulder, or turned- just not full on facing and locked in with her- it appears much more innocent and non-flirty.
/r/seduction11/08/24 03:30 PM
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Man's peak decade isnt his 30s. Not in the context to which women are most attracted. It's closer to mid 40s.
/r/seduction09/08/24 08:16 PM
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Well FTC isn’t something you “outgrow” when you understand it. No matter how cool you are and how good your game there are sets that require an FTC to set everyone at ease enough to open more fully. It’s a form of social awareness that is way more powerful than people give credit for. Like asking, “How do you all know each other,” or otherwise establishing the social connections before you dog too deep. Also, one of the main reasons not to peck is because no matter how cool or non-fidgety you do…
/r/seduction02/08/24 12:07 AM
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Totally understood. I'd just recommend you are also training to prevent separation anxiety. Same way we dont wanna be mama's boys, you don't want your dog to suffer when you're not around.
/r/seduction31/07/24 08:33 PM
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Dog means Team.
/r/seduction31/07/24 08:21 PM
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Not only is it not wrong, it’s a part of a healthy human-canine relationship. Your dog WANTS you to get a lot of girls. Think about it.
/r/seduction31/07/24 08:09 PM
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Ah its an issue of definition. The definition of pecking I know is "leaning in to talk or listen to her." It's what most normal people do just to be polite- or to hear.
/r/seduction31/07/24 06:45 PM
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Fair. Looks exactly the same tho and will have the same effect. Looks like you bowed at some point. Just saying. Good job either way.
/r/seduction31/07/24 06:27 PM
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Nicely done. Watch the pecking (leaning in to hear her). I do it too if Im not careful- dangers of being polite ;)
/r/seduction31/07/24 05:56 PM
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I've seen many guys open conversations doing literally that. It's all how you work it.
/r/seduction27/06/24 05:51 PM
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Smile, open your body language, and make eye contact. And DONT open with "Ma'am." Makes you sound like a homeless person about to ask for money.
/r/seduction27/06/24 04:15 PM
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My experience, dates with foreign language speakers tends to go well so long as both sides are making an effort. The obstacles in communication become a shared challenge you work through together. Remember- she doesn’t understand English either, so she feels the same way as you. Protip: keep you ears open for any type of jokes or puns you can make in translation- it shows that even if you don’t have a command of Spanish, you’re clearly smart and pick things up quickly.
/r/seduction27/05/24 05:50 PM
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Women don’t like arrogance- they like the self-assuredness, setting of boundaries, and willingness to walk away that tend to come with being arrogant. But all of those can come with confidence too- and better to be confident as the above response discusses.
/r/seduction26/05/24 07:35 PM
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False-time constraints are critical at night. Until they feel safe they have an out/you’re about to leave, most girls can’t relax enough to invest or desire you to stay. Remember: we pursue that which runs from us.
/r/seduction26/05/24 12:20 AM
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Also it is generally easier to flirt in a second language.
/r/seduction14/05/24 10:59 PM
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I know, right? The “magic” of Hank Moody is simply scripts saying “girls love him so hard he can’t even go to the grocery store without hot chicks trying to bang him!” It’s not really a good case study or model to learn from.
/r/seduction19/02/24 03:52 PM
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A few of the scenarios are, agreed. But overall it was classic "this girl wants to bang this shlubby, disinterested dude, who really didnt do anything to 'dhv', because that's what the script calls for." If you wanted to draw lessons, I'd say this: To the degree that he had a very relaxed masculine body language, it's because he has professionals blocking him (positioning) in the production, rehearsals and read-throughs beforehand, and ultimately, as an actor he KNOWS this girl is "going to be i…
/r/seduction19/02/24 03:25 PM
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Californication is honestly a horrible model. It’s the epitome of “it works cause the writers say so.” Try acting like him in most situations and you won’t get squat.
/r/seduction19/02/24 02:25 PM
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Life is hard enough without You... talking shit ABOUT You... TO YOU.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/20 10:39 PM
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Power rests where men believe it does.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/19 08:56 PM
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Run. But not so fast it triggers her prey-drive or you may be next.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/19 05:14 PM
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The best thing you can do is start going out and looking for plates to spin. Even if you aren't actually trying. The act of reinvigorating your sexuality will not only bring back the old you she liked, it will put you in a better position to decide if YOU want to keep HER- or maybe it's time to find someone new.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/19 08:29 PM
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Moby Dick.
/r/seduction18/02/19 04:41 PM
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Yes. A lot of lives will have to be destroyed before things get better.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/19 05:03 PM
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Im glad neither of them are alive to see this. They both knew it was coming. That's enough pain for them to endure.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/19 02:19 PM
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Everything. That’s the point. There is no saving anything. It has to implode to create context for relearning the importance of stoicism and assertive/aggressive action, competition, et all. Hopefully it won’t be too Mad Max of a society in the post-matriarchy.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/19 09:49 PM
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That’s ok. Communism always eventually fails and so will this. The price of success is eventually you have to lose it all in order to start again and relearn lessons. I just hope I’m still alive when the world remembers that you don’t have to build civilization on lies.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/19 09:42 PM
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For just a moment I started to get angry. Then I started laughing as I realized: they can say whatever they want, but it’s irrelevant. You can’t change hundreds of thousands of years of biological evolution and natural selection with poorly conceived lies. I’m not taking about the nature of man. I’m talking about the nature of women. Men are aggressive and dominant and stoic because that’s what women select. And women select for it because that’s what works and has worked all the time, everywher…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/19 03:53 AM
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Don’t get defensive bro. The question was about women. It’s easy to talk to guys in the gym. And sure, if a chick starts working out next to you, giving you proximity and eye contact, then talk to her. But that’s not an approach. You shouldn’t really approach women working out because it is inherently try hard and just not the most apropos time.
/r/seduction19/12/18 07:14 PM
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When they are coming in or leaving. Don’t interrupt a workout. No matter how organic you try to make it seem it will feel forced and make you look try-hard.
/r/seduction18/12/18 10:33 PM
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Also, as the reasoning goes, just because you are nice to her, doesn’t meant she owes you sex. But just because you are having sex with her, doesn’t mean you owe her a relationship...
/r/TheRedPill15/11/18 12:19 AM
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Don’t be a slave to your libido. The essence of the alpha male is that he is motivated by something more than sex. He can say no.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/18 12:13 AM
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Sorry man but “don’t think about morality much because women don’t too” is awful advice. I get where you are coming from but this isn’t supposed to be about fucking women at all costs. Have dignity. Have integrity. Have morals.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/18 11:50 PM
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Apparently something about your physique is transmitting an almost repulsive level of weakness and lack of fitness. It's not fair, but if women are telling you this, you should listen. You don't need to get swole, but apparently you need a little size, or presence, or testosterone. Who knows. Either way you should workout just because life is relatively unhealthy these days and you need to make up for all the sitting and bad eating.
/r/seduction31/10/18 08:13 PM
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You can smile and say "alright you're losing me" and playfully roll away a little, she will reengage on your behalf.
/r/seduction25/10/18 10:26 PM
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You may have just inspired me to write a post. But in case I’m too lazy here is the jist: When a woman says “I like honesty,” she’s not saying she likes honesty, or that she is attracted to guys who are honest. Or that honesty arouses her. She is saying “I like it when a man gives me as much information, without resistance, about any potential weakness or unacceptability as a mate he has, so I can filter him out earlier rather than later.” Remember, women’s brains are highly developed SCREENING …
/r/seduction25/10/18 10:07 PM
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You may not believe this but your game improved dramatically from having this experience. Don’t chases success. It isn’t running from you. It’s here and now. You could go out tonight and get a girl- and one day/night soon you will. Go watch Roger Dodger. It has some pretty good insights and is just a fun ass movie- especially when you feel the way you do now.
/r/seduction25/10/18 09:51 PM
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One day you’ll be experiencing so much success you’ll have trouble convincing girls you weren’t always cool. Don’t open up too much to a girl too early. Don’t be a book she can open at will and close when she wants. She wants a guy who will deal with her emotional instability with grace and power- not a male friend who she feels she has to emotionally support. This was a great experience. Even if it hurts. I’m proud of you.
/r/seduction25/10/18 09:38 PM
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Glad to helped. I think you definitely did the right things. It’s all practice.
/r/seduction19/10/18 06:28 PM
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30 minutes late, taking your hand off her, not wanting to go someplace private with you, and "Keep in touch" are all bad signs. Probably not gonna see her again. But in general the date sounds like it went well and was a great learning experience. Would have been awesome if she had walked in late and seen you talking to those two girls... And remember- kino is a reward. You want her to associate it with good feelings and bonding with you. If the vibe isn't going well ("You work in healthcare? I …
/r/seduction19/10/18 02:15 PM
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So this is just internet tough guy- you aren't actually like this, right?
/r/TheRedPill17/10/18 03:37 PM
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? Truly this is the power of European intellectualism. That’s ok. Intellectual pursuits just aren’t your game. Maybe shoots and ladders is more your speed? 😂
/r/TheRedPill17/10/18 01:49 PM
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This is the saddest attempt to AMOG ever. I feel bad for you. This feels like arguing with a little girl.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/18 01:41 PM
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Holy crap. You really can’t read can you? Please stop talking. This forum is for 18+.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/18 01:13 PM
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Not everyone needs google to know things like you do. You're embarrassing yourself, just put your tail between your legs and go whimper somewhere else "Rex."
/r/TheRedPill17/10/18 12:58 PM
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Lol. You didn’t just write it incorrectly. You used it incorrectly. Latin and bad Shakespeare don’t make you educated or smart. “I’m not projecting- YOU’RE projecting.” :). Seriously babycakes.....shhhhhhhh.....
/r/TheRedPill17/10/18 12:28 PM
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Yes- no one knows what the Rex of T Rex is except you. You are like a god king amongst us mortals.... There surely is nothing i can teach a super adept like Chaddeus Rex about psychology. "Methinks you doth protest too much." Lol- you aren't even using that right. Just stop replying and I will too. This is embarrassing.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/18 01:42 AM
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Ugh. So defensive. You are the “Chad King.” That’s the screename you chose. Congrats. You understand nothing about basic psychology and are projecting so hard you are standing beside yourself.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/18 09:13 PM
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Europeans are some of the most feminized, harangued, and generally beaten down people there are. Lol. “Chaddeus_rex”. Seriously, next time you hear grown folks talks shut the mouth and open the ears “Rex”.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/18 08:50 PM
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That's a smart move. If a guy is rich even, it doesnt matter if he is so stingy it's like being with poor guy. Women are engineered to look for a man who will be a good provider. I'm from Atlanta, raised in the South, so if I have to pay, otherwise I fear my mom will suddenly pop up from somewhere and smack me on the back of the head. :) When I've dated girls in the north or out west it always cracks me up when I go to pull out their chair at dinner and they go walk to the other chair. They thin…
/r/seduction13/10/18 11:23 PM
0

You are so right. I've noted that probably the most repellent quality a man can have, with regards to women, is not cruelty or an abusive streak, or even the dreaded commitment-phobia. It is cheapness. Guys who beat women almost always have women. Guys who cheat on women are rolling in it. Guys who are cheap can't get or keep a woman.
/r/seduction13/10/18 11:13 PM
2

Plenty, but those are mine. :) You need to come up with your own. I'll give you this: anytime she (and she will) brings up her age or gets shy and acts like she's disqualifying herself ("why arent you with a girl your age/im too old for you/you realize im a mom right?/etc") just smile and make a joke and then say, "I'll wait while you get over it," or some such. The point is: acknowledge and ignore. She wants to feel comfortable and see that you understand.
/r/seduction13/10/18 10:56 PM
2

Be polite and respectful, but don't be afraid to poke fun at her insecurity over being older (note: the insecurity is what you are making fun of- not the actual age.) She doesn't want to admit it but part of the draw is that she feels sexy that a younger man is interested in her and see her as a sexual being. Make only quasi-veiled attempts to hide that you are very attracted to her. You don't need to qualify older milfs as hard as some 20-something club girl.
/r/seduction13/10/18 10:36 PM
1

Please just make sure you are a gentleman and pay 0_0 I agree totally, but it cracks me up that I knew right away you were a female, before seeing your screenname, because this was the first piece of advice you gave... lol
/r/seduction13/10/18 10:34 PM
-2

European media functions at an objectively higher intellectual level than American. lol, keep telling yourself that, maybe it will make up for your war-shame. Europeans are moving away from globalism while Americans don't understand what globalism is. Trump was before Brexit, and the fact that the EU was always a sham destined for failure is dogma. Go vent about your hatred of Americans somewhere else, we are trying to have a convo here about how to breed losers like you out.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/18 10:13 PM
2

Probably verrrry few had only one kid. If you could reproduce, you'd do it multiple times with at least one woman, if not more. The vast majority of men who ever lived had no kids. A small minority had only one or two, a major minority had 3-10000khanstatus.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/18 10:07 PM
2

Your ego is showing. North Americans are the ones who literally developed the red pill. Let's focus on the issue at hand.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/18 10:04 PM
5

Almost...
/r/seduction12/10/18 09:59 PM
1

Two of four. They aren't bots. I can establish that pretty quickly.
/r/seduction12/10/18 09:59 PM
23

Some women probably look at it as too much interest. That's the problem with women: consistently inconsistent.
/r/seduction12/10/18 08:36 PM
42

Note: I've had a few times where I hit the "extend match" button (sometimes almost immediately after matching) and had the girl message me. I always ask, "Do you just wait to see if the guy will extend you, so you know he's actually interested?" They usually reply yes.
/r/seduction12/10/18 07:28 PM
2

When they come to you, use them to have a good time and qualify them. I say "use them" because the frame is "I'm going to have a good time and since you are here, so will you." Not "I wanna make sure you have fun!" If you still like her after vibing for a while and qualifying her and getting some comfort, make plans to see each other again. Kino so it doesn't get weird and formal.
/r/seduction11/10/18 09:23 PM
9

No. This is either an IOD or a shit test. Don't do it. There is no advantage to having her friends there. Just tell her you aren't interested in a group thing, and smile when you say it.
/r/seduction11/10/18 08:20 PM
124

That's actually the best outcome in every respect. People are drawn to the forbidden, especially when it is still accessible.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/18 07:54 PM
3

Sounds like you've got the attraction part down- now you need them to invest enough that they don't want to just end it and not see you again.
/r/seduction11/10/18 07:42 PM
3

You didn't "play it cool." You were cool. You weren't focused on the girls and they could sense it, so they came to you. That's awesome! That's what you want. However, after that either: A) You didn't strike and lost the chance, changing their view of you, OR B) They came for attention, got it easily, then bailed. Did you feed them too much and give them too much attention too easily? Make the interaction about them? Or did you just stay very disinterested and left them feeling like you qualifie…
/r/seduction11/10/18 06:12 PM
8

If she gives you an opening and you don't take it, she either has to feel a little insulted, embarrassed and/or fooled, OR she has to lower her view of you, aka DLV. Playing it cool doesn't mean not striking when the iron is hot/buying temperature is up.
/r/seduction11/10/18 05:42 PM
2

Alphas are alphas because they protect their territory. Contrary to popular belief, male lions don't spend most of the day sitting around- they patrol their territory and look for dangers. That's a behavior women are wired to respond to. Basic life tip: Keep your head on a swivel; awareness will make or break you. Focus on keeping your head up and observing what is around you in a dominant way. Stay on it for 30 seconds at a time and then allow yourself to go back to head drooped. Then try a min…
/r/seduction11/10/18 05:29 PM
3

"It's just as if a man were wounded with an arrow thickly smeared with poison. His friends & companions, kinsmen & relatives would provide him with a surgeon, and the man would say, 'I won't have this arrow removed until I know whether the man who wounded me was a noble warrior, a priest, a merchant, or a worker.' He would say, 'I won't have this arrow removed until I know the given name & clan name of the man who wounded me... until I know whether he was tall, medium, or short... until I know w…
/r/seduction11/10/18 05:24 PM
-2

That sucks. My buddy has the same issue. Dick too big. Makes me happy to be a size that I can get the whole thing in, and then some, when I thrust. According to him some girls just aren’t compatible. Not really much you can do. :( Apropos to nothing...do you like black girls?
/r/seduction11/10/18 02:24 PM
3

That said, it is a very good post. Thank you!
/r/seduction11/10/18 02:09 PM
8

I don't feel like those are underrated secret weapons- I feel like those are the fundamentals. Everything else is just technique, but these are the things that make you truly competent.
/r/seduction11/10/18 02:04 PM
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The very concept of a professional implies a level of attention to detail and perfection of technique that seems somewhat antithetical to not only misspelling a word, but having no editorial controls to catch it.
/r/seduction11/10/18 01:01 PM
1

Bookstores.
/r/seduction11/10/18 02:37 AM
1

Honestly, if you do the best you can at the Yoga and the Meditation, the natural result will be here becoming very attracted to you. This is one of the few times where less game is best. Focus on what you are doing and she will come to you. It's the nature of things and she is already in the waves. Do not be the guy who opens one eye during meditation to see if she is checking you out. Be the guy SHE opens an eye to check out because he's so focused on the meditation.
/r/seduction10/10/18 04:47 PM
-4

Patting the seat next to her.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/18 02:48 PM
10

Already be asleep.
/r/seduction10/10/18 12:47 PM
2

If you try to eliminate that you will be amazed how it will change your entire way of interacting with people. You won’t believe how different things will come out of your mouth when you know you can’t couch it or devalue it (you) by undercutting your own expressions with a self-deprecating/apologetic/dismissive laugh.
/r/seduction10/10/18 03:32 AM
6

One of the things that makes a "Creep" as far as girls are concerned is incongruity of behavior. It smacks of either "trying too hard or trying to hide." A perfect example is the title of this post. "Scared of being a creep lol." Why the lol? You literally added a "nervous laugh" at the end of a typed sentence? It's because you are trying to cover- to give yourself an out- to apologize for your question or the insecurity you feel asking it. Dont. Be authentic. "Scared of being a creep" isn't cre…
/r/seduction10/10/18 12:22 AM
3

she's actually someone I'm intrigued by physically, and socially And that's why you will make mistakes and then overthink and show insecurity which drives her away. That's the catch 22 of the game- it's at its most difficult when it really counts.
/r/seduction05/10/18 04:14 AM
4

The worst thing you can do is text more- it makes you look insecure. A fully congruent man wouldn't care that he sent a long text, or worry that she will care. Whatever you try to do to "fix" this will only make it worse. Just totally ignore that it happened and wait for her to text back. If not, move on. This didn't singularly kill anything.
/r/seduction05/10/18 02:12 AM
113

Ah yes, Monkhood: that time-honored tradition of retiring from worldly life to get swole so you can eventually nail hotter chicks.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/18 10:37 PM
1

“Me too.... I’m about to [dhv subtext] but...” Of course she does it. Women are masters at this. We pursue that which runs from us. Also, FTCs make the interaction more comfortable by letting her know there is an end coming. She won’t be stuck in an uncomfortable convo. With that fear removed they are way more open to being games.
/r/seduction03/10/18 08:09 PM
1

FTC. False Time Constraints. “I have to go meet my buddy, but...” “I have to go, but...” “Before I get out of here, have you...” These are so epically powerful and so underused.
/r/seduction03/10/18 06:49 PM
3

No. Shoot for the moon every time. You’ll get better faster, and have more success than you think. Plus it will highlight sticking points earlier.
/r/seduction03/10/18 06:48 PM
6

Yeah. It’s done. If she can’t make it but wants to see you again she will propose a counter-offer. She said no and left no window open. Sorry, but it happens to best of us. Move on.
/r/seduction03/10/18 06:46 PM
6

"I own this place." Act the way you would if it were your party, your club, your whatever. But Gatsby style. You aren't bragging about it (cause you don't really own it) but you behave like you do. If it's your party you are as interested in making sure everyone else is having a good time as you are. You being social is your role, nothing weird about it. "Hey- are you enjoying yourselves?"
/r/seduction03/10/18 04:31 PM
13

Majored in philosophy. As he said- not so-guarded secret except amongst the blue pills. I had two pretty red-pilled philosophy teachers who both voted against making feminist studies a real major at the uni.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/18 04:13 PM
3

It's touchy. You need to work on the one you don't like so she is friendly and doesn't cockblock, but you cant go so hard that the girl you are interested in goes , "well fine, I won't compete," or where the roadblock gets angry when you switch attention, "guys always end up flirting with her over me!" Don't kino too hard with the one you aren't interested in. See if there is a chance one will want to watch you with the other. That's more common amongst female friends than you may think, dependi…
/r/seduction01/10/18 12:06 PM
2

If you go out with her again, never mention it, never talk about it, never bring it up. It's over. That reality is gone. She will forget it as soon as you start giving solid game.
/r/seduction01/10/18 02:13 AM
3

Your wingman is an asshat who was trying to use you to make himself look alpha. Don’t game with him again. The most important rule of wingmaning is that your partner is more important than any girl. If you prioritize the girl over the guy, she will see that and both your value will be lowered. This is why when your partner approaches you ALWAYS break rapport/lock-in with the girl, and instead focus on the guy. Turn your body to him, smile, pump your energy. This lets the woman know she is second…
/r/seduction30/09/18 12:16 PM
1

Honestly, I'd call and ask. It changes and I haven't been there in a year or so. If you tell the person who answers what you are looking for in terms of girls and how packed, etc. they can help you out.
/r/seduction28/09/18 11:42 PM
1

Yes. It’s worth it. The pony has JV time like ever club, but in general it’s great and the girls are cool. Check it out.
/r/seduction28/09/18 10:36 PM
1

That is nice, but an entirely different scenario than trying to pick up the super hot bartender who is pouring shots and fending off every drunk guy at the happening spot. THAT is the girl who Im saying almost always requires the social proof of having girls with you. "You guys who read books just make things hard on yourselves imo. " Jesu man, you are projecting so bad.
/r/seduction28/09/18 03:30 AM
1

I generally agree with this, but my experience has actually contradicted my expectaion: strippers are not just like other hired guns but moreso. I have found the rule that "opening a bartender requires you to have two girls/massive social proof" to be true, but strippers don't necessarily. The social proof game is absolutely unique in a strip club. I tried to get my philosophy class in college to all go for a field trip- only the 72 year old professor thought it was a good idea. Sissies.
/r/seduction28/09/18 01:42 AM
0

"And then the hooker gave ME the money back!" Cool story. Don't fuck a porn star, it's not worth the herpes to throw a hot dog down a hallway.
/r/seduction27/09/18 11:18 PM
1

Used to. My buddy got with bella bellz in a hotel for money a few months before she showed up in bangbros porn. I got with her cousin a few years before that- no money. Didnt know jada stevens was from atl. edit: jada is from snellville...
/r/seduction27/09/18 10:18 PM
10

"you have no fucking mission besides women" ​ I've always found the best way to attract and KEEP women was to have something in your life more important than women. Can't get bored with what you can't catch. And women love to chase.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 03:02 AM
0

It's your job to make her fun to converse with. Either step up and put in the work, or find yourself a new girlfriend with whom you'll have the same problem eventually. If you leave it to the woman to keep convos entertaining, they will get dull and repetitive and not only will you be bored- SHE WILL BE BORED and SHE WILL BLAME YOU! This is what separates real long term and short term. This is what commitment really means to a man. Are you willing to put in the effort to make her what you need h…
/r/seduction27/09/18 02:58 AM
1

Yeah- “cliquish” is debatable and shouldn’t matter anyway. Opening sets is opening sets. Edgewood Ave, right next to the King Center, has some good spots. Sound Table. Sister Louisa’s. Joystick Game bar. You will have a good time. Or head over to Krog St Market (it’s close- walkable; but don’t walk there from King Center too late at night) it’s usually packed with options :) Throw up a field report after if you feel like it.
/r/seduction26/09/18 11:37 AM
0

The Mystery Method and The Art of Seduction by Greene
/r/seduction26/09/18 04:47 AM
5

You are going to hear a lot of BS. Here's the real skinny: 1) Southern girls and girls who pretend to be- If you are a polite without being servile, charming and relaxed, you are way ahead of most guys. 2) You want to go to Little Trouble. Trust me. 3) Ornsbys is good too 4) Go to the pink pony.... before it's too late 5) Black girls are your friend. They like confident guys, go sexual in convo fast and comfortable, and aren't standoffish like some are. Plus, they make great wingwomen. 6) The ne…
/r/seduction26/09/18 03:10 AM
1

That makes more sense. Im guessing your profile makes you seem like a guy who would say "You, me, tacos, motorcycle." Whatever OP is saying isnt grooving with his profile so the girls falter. Anyway- same to you man, stay safe- youre totally right about the leggings.
/r/seduction24/09/18 02:23 AM
6

Whoa now. We can throw insults all day, but I didnt accuse you of riding a Honda ;p Let's keep this decent. But for real, you're venturing into parody with "who gives a shit about making her comfortable." Acting/expecting compliance with your rush-risk behavior will work- I don't deny that, but it's different than actually making her comfortable. And since the original poster is having a problem with girls saying they want to get to know him better, that's an issue of congruence. This "dont care…
/r/seduction24/09/18 02:03 AM
0

How to efficiently get dates in tinder. How to get girls to meet up with you. But you don't know. I'm not in the business of wasting my time to make women feel comfortable with me. Oh yeah. That's obvious Romeo. Shit, my first date proposal to girls on tinder is a motorcycle ride. THAT is crazy I will admit. Get on a motorcycle with a stranger you just met? But they do it! I've easily taken over 50 women from tinder on a motorcycle ride. I don't believe you. I actually do ride a motorcycle, and …
/r/seduction24/09/18 01:32 AM
1

Short answer: it means you aren't making them comfortable enough. This is probably a result of showing incongruencey. One way or another your profile says a lot about it. If she was willing to swipe right, then needs to know you better for a while, it means the following interaction did something to make her spidey-senses tingle. That said, some women just need more comfort before they meet up- especially, if like MissBehaved57 says- they've had experiences that freaked them a bit. Focus on show…
/r/seduction24/09/18 01:02 AM
15

Bulls Im not trying to white knight here, but the level of disbelief you are showing says more about you than her. Think about it- I'm sure you can come up with plenty of reasons a woman might feel in danger in a public place. He COULD BE nuts enough to punch her in a public place. The place could quickly go from public to semi-public to barely public pretty fast, especially at night. It could be that the meeting in person really gets him fixated and obsessive quick. It could be that he's able t…
/r/seduction24/09/18 12:56 AM
4

That is literally exactly what I was thinking. That and Sir Hiss from Disney's Robin Hood. The fact that the original story of a woman being convinced to do something she has been told by God himself is very wrong involved a snake.... noted....
/r/TheRedPill21/09/18 03:29 PM
101

tl;dr - Speak and interact with her like a cartoon snake. There is a reason they have that sssssimply calming effect....
/r/TheRedPill21/09/18 04:19 AM
28

The thing to remember is that with women, there is no "good" track record. If you do the right thing 1000 days in a row, then screw up on 1001, for the next 10 years that screw up will be the standard of your performance in her mind. She will not remember or understand that this was the exception. She will not remember all the good, nor will it ever become the standard. Protip: Don't ever let women know your financial situation isn't going well. It's a primal turn off and basically lets them kno…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/18 01:35 PM
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