doggiedoc2004 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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–	Immediate disqualifying factors are viewed as something negative by the person disqualifying Bisexual men are not part of my dating pool to begin with. Just like women are not a part of my dating pool. This is not a good argument. Just like straight men can say that single mothers are not a part of their dating pool. Where there is moral judgement is if someone says “I find bisexuality and single motherhood disgusting and immoral”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 06:19 PM
–	Immediate disqualifying factors are viewed as something negative by the person disqualifying This is silly and reductive. Just because an individual may not like something or find it off putting say like sushi, does not mean sushi is bad. The item(sushi)or person doesn’t gain or loose moral or positive weight just because an outside individual doesn’t care for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 06:15 PM
2	Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with it It’s telling that you say “an opportunity at a beautiful woman” vs a woman who I mesh with and have shared interests and goals and also who I find attractive. Many people are fine with highly transactional relationships and unequal relationships and if that’s you… fine. (And yes all relationships have a degree of transaction) Personally, I find it odd that people (gold diggers included) are ok being paired up even if they find the other person hideous, uninteresting, just a meal ticket or just b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 09:36 PM
3	How do you explain the "Dark Romance" Boom? How do you explain the dark porn boom in which choking, anal, degradation, “teen” appearance and misogyny are front and center?? The same way. A lot of folks get off to “dark” and aggressive fantasy situations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 05:39 PM
2	If the woman is successful and makes more money than the man, he can be a stay at home dad while the woman provides There are absolutely families that do this. Especially working professionals. Sure it’s not a common set up because on average men make more than women. My husband stayed home at various times during our kids early years because either I earned more or he had more flexibility to work from home. Also you have to take into consideration that due to cultural norms (aka patriarchal norms) men who are primary care givers are often stigmatized and looked down on. Even amongst women! I’ve seen plenty o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 05:44 PM
22	If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more. Da fuq you talking about? That women only want universal heath care for themselves? Not their sons? Not their fathers or their partners? That women only want union jobs with pensions for themselves? This is laughable Sooooo women just become nurses, therapists, elder care givers, teachers, social workers, and volunteer at higher rates because they ::checks notes:: only care about women and women’s issues? Mmkay There are all kinds of shitty people out there. But there are people of all genders w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 09:26 PM
32	If there is no obligations and nobody owes anyone anything. We should go fully, not picking and choosing. Men particularly, Need to simply be selfish and self serving, alot more. Women are huge supporters of liberal ideals of universal health care, access to mental health services, unions and living wage policies, labor laws, medical leave, reevaluating over policing, identifying problems with the carceral state, all of which help men immensely. Just because we don’t offer up our affections and vaginas as part of our care toward society does not mean we do not care about men and people in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 06:54 PM
2	When it comes to chores, it's not that men won't help out/pull their weight. Women just hate to see men relaxing. Hahahaha. This is hilarious. If there is work to be done it should get done in an equitable manner and THEN both parties can relax. PS if one partner wants to live in a pigsty and the other prefers cleanliness then the couple is mismatched and needs extensive communication or to separate	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 08:32 PM
4	Would you change your views and behaviour? A basic level of care does NOT equal giving men our bodies. A basic level of care is helping men get access to mental healthcare and better economic opportunities BOTH of which are policies many many women advocate for	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 10:47 PM
12	Would you change your views and behaviour? Sex will NEVER be the same as getting a coffee with someone. Holy cow what a wild take. Coffee can’t get you pregnant, killed, assaulted or STDed. Obviously based on your own weird ass hypothetical, sex is morally, physically and emotionally MUCH more than a damn coffee. You are definitely winning in troll points!	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 10:44 PM
14	Would you change your views and behaviour? Appalled that a woman would not give up her body autonomy to someone with severe mental illness? Lol that’s wild. And let’s say in this hypothetical how many times does a woman have to give up her body to save this man? Once? 10 times? Bc I some how doubt this mentally ill individual will be cured by one 3 minute fuck session. And I can promise there are vanishingly few males who would give their asshole virginity to a mentally ill individual	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 10:36 PM
22	Would you change your views and behaviour? How about volunteer to donate your asshole to some unattractive gay guys to make them feel better. It doesn’t matter if lives are on the line. This is not a war time scenario and frankly if a guy is so mentally ill he would off himself he is probably not someone who should be partnering or mating with anyone until he gets his shit together. And if he can ONLY get his shit together by fucking someone who doesn’t want him then I absolutely do NOT want that man reproducing or inflicting his mental …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 09:01 PM
26	Would you change your views and behaviour? Our bodies are not for sympathy fucks. Women donate time and money to help promote mental health, volunteer at shelters etc. wtf would we donate our vaginas? This is so ridiculous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 08:28 PM
5	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. What “women only” spaces truly exist in America? Almost none legally in most states. With the exception of fire safety, WHO is that “baseline male infrastructure” protecting women from?? And the nebulous threat of what happens if there isn’t this structure…. what manner of people would mostly be taking advantage of anarchy? Hmmm Pointing out generally true things is not misandry. I don’t disagree that misandrist attitude can exist especially on an individual basis. But as you rightfully point ou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 05:10 PM
–	Why do many men find a clumsy, socially awkward, maladjusted woman acceptable for casual sex, but women don’t? Come on are you serious with this?? 1000% rooted in biology with a nice helping of culture on the side. Sex is evolutionarily VERY expensive for women - risk of pregnancy, violence, STDs not to mention most casual encounters with dudes do not include an orgasm or two. And for women attraction is often a must. Sperm is cheap. Male attention is cheap and abundant. Men are wired by nature/testosterone to spread their seed by any means (monogamy, rape, polygyny, dump and run). And any sex almost alw…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/26 12:57 AM
2	Woman of Reddit. What is your usual response or reaction when you hear guys say "Women are too much work"? That’s cool. I think people (men or women) appreciate when low effort folks select themselves out of the dating market. It’s probably a good thing for the men who want to put in some effort as a % of men have taken themselves out of the dating pool. Less competition!	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 08:30 PM
-1	Women, that defend feminists as not hateful/misandrist/biassed, have you asked them any questions on reddit? Don’t take anything “feminist” on Reddit seriously. Many are larpers. Who knows what % are fake. I’ve been banned from most fem subs for the audacity of believing no males can ever be female or experience what it is to be a woman. This is like the most feminist thing someone can believe but these subs (and even this one) are so captured by crazies that the simple belief that sex is real and both sexes should have some limited sex only based rights. Queue the downvotes here for being a TERF a mis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 08:16 PM
1	Many women want a man who is "generous" without being generous themselves. That’s cool. That is your preference and your on perception of the issue. Just let the gal know ahead of time. It’s simple. Her perception of the action of being invited on a date and then being expected to pay may elicit different feelings. Don’t waste peoples time. There are plenty of women that want to split bills on dates so there is no perceived obligation. There are also a lot of women who do use things like offering to pay for dinner as a proxy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 03:42 PM
1	Many women want a man who is "generous" without being generous themselves. OP provides an excellent example of why observing if a man offers to pay for a date or gets offended at the idea of paying for the first few dates can be a great screening tool to weed out males who actively dislike women, who think having kids is no big deal and generally just give off a vibe of hatred and disdain for the opposite sex. And OP your disdain for women bleeds through every response. This works both ways because obviously OP does not want any women who might be digging his gold. So …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 05:34 PM
2	If there was a button flipping the dating dynamics for Men and Woman would you press it? Does this mean they have to deal with periods and unwanted pregnancies and higher STD risks too? And by default will have to care for any kids they produce? Do we women get a 50% boost in strength and aggression too??	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 11:02 PM
1	Mainstream is acknowledging hypergamy, sexlessness, and hoeflation: We're at a tipping point Right now a problem is that the negative effects of improper hypergamy do not occur because in our society we do not allow (or try not to allow) children to suffer. So women and men who probably wouldn’t not have faired well from a reproductive fitness standpoint 15k years ago don’t suffer the consequences to the same extent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 04:30 PM
1	Mainstream is acknowledging hypergamy, sexlessness, and hoeflation: We're at a tipping point How about just “women (or men) with unrealistic standards” Good point on the shit genetics although that applies to anyone and isn’t sex specific. Women with shit genetics probably have a higher probability of passing those shit genetics to their offspring if they mate but those offspring also now have shit genetics and historically probably wouldn’t have survived.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 04:27 PM
19	Mainstream is acknowledging hypergamy, sexlessness, and hoeflation: We're at a tipping point Tipping toward what? What are you hoping to happen. I studied evo bio and of course hypergamy has always been a thing. It’s how we have evolved as a species. If women chose losers w shit genetics she was less likely to have offspring that make it to adulthood. (I will give you the point that there are many who do not understand this or that men from an evo bio standpoint are more fit the more genes they get into the next gen by whatever means possible) I think everyone knows about sexlessness an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 08:30 PM
–	Maybe one way to reduce red-pill misogyny is letting “average” guys have their own hoe phase later…..? lol you make it seem like once a guy gets older there are going to be a plethora of sexual opportunities. This might occur for a select few who actually work to improve themselves in all ways. But most guys will still just be average and blah later in life just maybe with a bit more resources. You can have a hoe phase whenever you want (as long as it’s ethical and not cheating on someone) I just don’t think you are magically gonna have waaaay more opportunities when you are older	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 04:46 PM
–	People need to blame women more Dating and mating are not something that can be equalized as women and men are not the same. Women risk MUCH more in terms of pregnancy and violence. We also have thousands of years of evolution that dictate that sperm is cheap and eggs and rearing young are expensive. As such, may women will use behaviors men don’t like, consciously or subconsciously to vet men. Showing extra attention (time, resources, confidence etc) are proxies for good mates. Obviously this doesn’t always work and there are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 08:13 PM
1	Women need to embrace, modernity all the way. No women on the whole or individually do not need to do anything you want in the name of fairness or whatever Dating and mating can never EVER be an equal proposition until women have the same muscle mass as men and babies can be grown in an artificial womb and we have 100% repro health care access. We are free in the west to have whatever standards we want. Just like you are. Doesn’t matter if it’s hypocritical. And yes that includes men wanting whatever they want in a partner. If our desires a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 09:28 PM
0	Age gap posts regarding “power imbalances” ignore that young women have (by lightyears) the most sexual power of any group Having “sexual power” has zero to do with sexual maturity or mental maturity and that power is only imbued because MEN give it to her. Dont be gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 07:49 PM
1	There's absolutely no point in marriage, for both genders. Not everyone has to conform to social norms and traditions. We live in a free society so you can have whatever type of relationship you want. Serial monogamy is the general norm for western folks. However, if this is the path you choose, you may miss out on some fabulous people and miss out on the possible stability a good marriage can have. And yes, it is possible to have a good marriage. And having a good marriage can be amazingly helpful for raising kids. Not always, but often enough. Our per…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 05:42 PM
9	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Hard disagree. I finally met my unicorn husband once I learned how to improve myself FIRST and then never compromise on what I wanted in a man. Still happily married after 18 years. I would have rather had no one then settle on someone who didn’t check all my boxes (and after my husbands first failed marriage he was looking for someone who met all his criteria) Neither of us compromised.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 10:57 PM
3	Can you explain why you want more dates/vacations? A lot of us highly value new experiences. A new restaurant. A cool hike. A theme park visit. A new country. We only live once. Having a partner in life to experience things with only makes the experience sweeter! Not all people feel the need for new experiences. Introverts are a thing. But even introverts like to share experiences. A new recipe. A new garden. A new TV show. These are not gendered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 09:19 PM
2	Would women’s dating problems change if they had fewer suitors? A suitor is someone trying to pursue a romantic relationship with a woman. A suitor is NOT the same as dudes looking to get casual sex. So no, most women do not have many, if any, suitors in the traditional sense. I think a lot of women would love to have more real suitors who are out to court and get rid of the guys just looking to get their dicks wet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/26 02:24 AM
3	When is a woman too picky or superficial? Individuals can be as picky as they want. If said individual asks you specifically about why they can’t find a match then sure, you can point out what your personal opinion is on the matter. And you are free to be as judgmental as you want. But I’d advise to keep it to yourself. If someone wants to be a dumb ass looking for a mythical hot virgin or wants 6’5 blue eyes that’s on them. No need to opine	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 09:04 PM
17	Men wouldn't complain about "modern women" or feminism if both sexes were equally attracted to each other Women didnt “distribute sex to men” at a higher rate in the past?? wtf is your proof of that? Women got married off, often against their will for most of the last several thousand years. Often women were beaten or killed or ostracized for any sort of sexual behavior outside of marriage. But go on king, keep pining after the halcyon days of yore	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/25 08:35 PM
1	Women and pick and choose when the universal appropriate places are appropriate for men to approach them. Man you are exhausting and clearly are waaay overthinking how most people communicate. And I don’t know what observing a cute chick has to do with feminism. Also where did I say I’m a feminist? Observing attractive people is like uhh being a normal human. And yes, if you are playing the “catching each others eye game” across a gym floor and she is looking away and purposefully avoiding eye contact or moves farther from you and is not smiling don’t fucking go talk to her. Instant no. It makes def…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/25 01:40 AM
0	Women and pick and choose when the universal appropriate places are appropriate for men to approach them. Holy hell what a diatribe to say you and men like you lack social skills. It’s very simple - 1. Observe cute chick in the wild 2. Catch her eyes and smile. If she smiles back go ahead and wander over and say hey what’s up? 3. This is the hard part for poorly socialized men. Carry on a conversation. If the conversation is going well - ie the woman is actively participating this is a good sign. Make a tasteful joke, try to show interest in HER as a person NOT her looks. Ex you look great I love yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/25 12:39 AM
1	What’s the common preference in modern dating for women , traditional roles or equal partnership? Your framing is all wrong. An equal partnership is a relationship with mutually agreed upon upon duties and responsibilities. Your framing makes it sound like being a SAHP is less than equal. Or that “traditional roles” are less than equal. This is bullshit. Being a SAHP is as necessary and equal to working outside the home. It is misogyny and misanthropy to suggest otherwise. It is misandry if anyone looks down on a man doing these roles. Equality and egalitarianism means mutual respect and com…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/25 09:20 PM
–	The societal expectation for men to be the protectors should be removed 100%	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 10:13 PM
–	The societal expectation for men to be the protectors should be removed Heh I’m curious how we would go about “removing a societal expectation” Also, most western men are not violent. However, all of our personal experience and experiences of our close friends and families show us that the perpetrators of violence and sexual violence against us are almost always men. So there is no contradiction that I see in being cautious around men. 100% we should all acknowledge, feminists included, that first responders and folks who will put their lives on the line in an emerg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 10:12 PM
8	Hypergamy supporters who think it's just a preference Nah. A few women have unreasonable standards. Experience will adjust most of these standards until an individual meets someone that fits most of them. Men do this too. Date/hook up with the hot crazy chick above their looks league and then will adjust down when the relationship falls apart Evolutionary biology is at play here and that is ok. Women (and men) should have as high of standards as they can get. This is how the species evolves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 04:31 PM
2	(Radical) Individualism is the root of our immoral/terrible sex-culture and Gender Conflict. Not anything inherently related men or women. Ok Karl. Bro. This is America. I’m not interested in a social credit score or having any sort of top down local, state or federal legal or mandated or even somewhat coerced control that would change our shared American culture. WTF does empowering communities to make decisions about social norms even mean? What if live in Dearborn and the local community decides to promote sharia law or some fundamentalist Mormon sect gets control of a town and wants to make everyone wear the special undergarmen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 01:15 AM
1	Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalf Still wouldn’t matter. The whole idea would still result in an overall chilling effect. Again - look at the current drop in birth rates. People can gaslight all they want on the birth rates. But it is 90% that women have decided not to mate and reproduce as often or at all. Any further changes to our reproductive rights (which includes having men pay for their offspring) will only further cause women to opt out and/or lead to further abortions. This would absolutely increase the current gender d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/25 07:49 PM
1	Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalf I do not think there is a perfectly fair choice here bc of inherent differences in reproduction but I do know it is even MORE NOT fair to the taxpayers to not have both bio parents contributing to the costs of their offspring. I already don’t particularly want to pay for single parents to raise their kids. I absolutely do not want to pay for dead beat dads	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/25 07:36 PM
0	Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalf How would this force more women to marry? Lol it would have a chilling effect on all relationships. Already women are opting out of relationships. This would result in even more pressure to stay away from men. Or even to get sterilized. We are going to witness a drastic population decline over the next 100 years because women are opting out or having fewer children. This would be a wonderful way to keep that downward trajectory Edit to add. My flair is not a lie. You are absolutely welcome and f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/25 08:50 PM
7	women normalize touching on other women without consent and not holding that woman accountable. lol are you serious??? Omg I’ve seen straight guys slap each others asses in jest and the “hey come look is this bubble gum on my leg” seems to be a favorite. My husband got me with that one real good once and said that was peek entertainment for the dudes he knew when he was younger. I’ve also seen the poking a finger up the butt crack (clothed) a few times also.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/25 06:43 PM
1	Why do women dislike the bottom 50% of men? I would say most women do not even think about the bottom 50% let alone comment regularly about them. I do think this is an actual problem because the bottom 50% are really struggling in school and employment. This should be an issue for everyone. If we can help the bottom 50 in life, education and career we could help shape better partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/25 05:04 PM
-6	Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalf No one is forcing you to be a parent. You can abandon any kids you create. But the mom and the government will come after you so that there are resources to take care of the individual YOU helped create. No one is even forcing the mother to be a parent. She can abandon the kid too and would also be subjected to financial support. Edit to add I am pro choice but not to the extent many liberal feminists. I would love to go back to the safe legal and rare mindset because I also believe there is a H…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/25 09:41 PM
-2	Feminist opposition to legal paternal surrender/paper abortion is clearly not actually about the best interests of the child, since it disappears the moment that a woman is exercising paternal surrender on the man's behalf This will never become law nor should it. As a tax payer I do not want to pay even MORE for the kids that get financially abandoned by their fathers. I already have to pay in to support many single mothers. Imagine the number of men that would do this and how much more tax payers are on the hook for. Get a vasectomy, wrap your dick up and/or keep it in your pants if you don’t ever want to be financially responsible for humans you create.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/25 09:36 PM
1	Does the 80/20 or 90/10 rule exist or does it not? Most women find most men neutral to unattractive. Keep in mind this includes all men. Sooo like already probably 70% are a no go immediately for age reasons (too old or too young) of the remaining 30 % of men, sure! We will only find a few of those men immediately attractive because many of those 30% don’t present themselves well or have undesirable characteristics (fat, ungroomed, underemployed, NEETS, too short). The 90% rule is a reasonable assumption based on the above numbers alone and is p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/25 10:27 PM
1	I think all women would be happier single lol this is just silly. I adore my hubby. He’s my best friend. If you have been in a 13 year relationship how would you even be the arbiter of happiness in hetero relationships? Unless you were cheating you wouldn’t even have the general experience. This comes across as fake	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/25 01:12 AM
–	Why so many men suddenly became undesirable? Men didn’t become more undesirable. Women realized that we expect A LOT more from our partners than what used to be expected or what we experienced growing up. We expect a man to do housework proportionally. We expect me to act like fathers. We expect men to have good grooming and hygiene. We expect men to treat us like we are real people. We expect men not to control us. We expect men to stand up for our reproductive rights. We (mostly) don’t want our men watching excessive porn, paying for OF …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/25 10:12 PM
3	"Does he like you or does he just wanna sleep with you?" - The false dichotomy lol “he will freely treasure the experience and respect the woman”. Ahahahahahaha maybe if it was a super hot girl once in a life time bang but I would hazard a guess that many if not most guys have LOW respect for chicks that hook up with them quickly. These chicks will often be not the best looking, not the best rep, and get seen as “easy” and not LTR or wife material.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/25 08:16 PM
2	Women tend to be all about mental health awareness, yet practice a zero tolerance policy for socially awkward men I never said otherwise. Of course it’s harder for autistic men. A LOT harder. Because women will just be alone rather than date someone they are not interested in or attracted to. A lot of men will tolerate weird behavior, psychotic behavior, unattractiveness in women just to get their dicks wet or even for relationships because they cannot tolerate being alone It is not misandry to not want to date men we are not attracted for any reason, including neurodivergence	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/25 09:59 PM
3	Women tend to be all about mental health awareness, yet practice a zero tolerance policy for socially awkward men I don’t know how you get that from my post. All men should know if they act creepy or make unwanted advances they are not going to get very far. If autistic men make women feel this way more frequently then NT men that is still not our problem. Neither women nor men need to react positively to unwanted advances from anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/25 07:24 PM
3	Women tend to be all about mental health awareness, yet practice a zero tolerance policy for socially awkward men Women will absolutely be tolerant it disabilities including autism. That does NOT mean they want to be hit on or have romantic interests in these individuals. And yes, most humans have a low tolerance for socially awkward behavior when considering an individual as a dating partner. Duh I realize this makes it nearly impossible for autistic men to get into relationships. I’ve watched love on the spectrum. The men on this show are all nice quirky individuals but holy hell I could not imagine them …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/25 05:17 PM
-1	Performative males are more attractive to women, at the expense of their own dignity lol not really. My 17 year old girl and her friends think performative males are hilarious and actually walk around, point them out and laugh. There are enough memes and reels that get shared with gen z and alpha that being performative is mostly going to get you laughed at Hah the only reason I know what a performative male is is because my kid pointed one out and had to explain to me why she was laughing. She says the worst have labubu’s affixed to their person or backpack	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/25 01:19 AM
19	How exactly is the average Basic Bob supposed to "choose better" in terms of MARRIAGE? Basic Bob sounds like someone I’d counsel my daughter and female friends to stay the fuck away from. Very immature if he spends his time worried about red pill shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/25 07:54 PM
–	Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrifice Wow. A lot of generalizations here. There are many many decent looking men out there. While I agree, there are few 9s and 10s, most men have at least some attractive or ok features that can be emphasized with the right style and grooming. And holy hell your friend group is not the arbitrator of all that is good looking. Silver foxes are a thing. Big burly men are a thing. Women liking beards and a more hirsute man are a thing. Women liking the ratty thin Timothy chalamet dudes are a thing. I agr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/25 06:53 PM
3	Women: If you believe your ability to easily get casual sex with hot guys is NOT important/advantageous, why do you get offended when men use phrases like "Its easy to get pumped & dumped and be Chads cum dumpster"? two things can actually be true at once. no, getting sex easily is not a measure of gender inequality. It is a measure of natural selection and evolutionary biology. sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive. sex is very risky for women, especially pre Industrial Revolution. The majority of women do not participate in hook up culture or prefer or even like casual hook ups. some do. most don't. some women have one or two and realize its not for them. it is ALSO true that many hot, masculine men or me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/25 11:58 PM
–	The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face. My friend I studied evolutionary biology. Genetic mutations that might confer an advantage can arise spontaneously. But mate selection by females (mammals and birds) in most cases is NOT random. This is why many male species either mate after dominating the other males or by displaying certain behaviors/adornments/rituals to entice the females to mate with them. These behaviors, including provisioning and helping care for young are proxies to help women select for good genes which hopefully resu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 08:16 PM
–	The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face. We are in central California. The demographics here result in a majority of men being under 5’10. Everywhere we look here all the short men are with women who are generally also short. So I’m not worried for my son as he’s most likely going to go dental school and he will be pretty good looking once’s he’s an adult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 08:07 PM
–	The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face. We are in central California. The demographics here result in a majority of men being under 5’10. Everywhere we look here all the short men are with women who are generally also short. So I’m not worried for my son as he’s most likely going to go dental school.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 08:03 PM
–	The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face. It is assortative mating. It is not eugenics. It is natural selection. Nature is a bitch but the evolution of any species is dependent on selecting mates that will hopefully result in improved fitness of the offspring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 08:00 PM
–	The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face. Yes. This is true. Height is definitely a factor in mate selection for many women. And too many women use this as their only criteria ignoring other more important factors that would make a good father who also has good genetics. Your comment made me laugh because I was lucky enough to find a unicorn man after a big glow up in my twenties. I’m 5’1 and he’s 5’11. I was hoping my kids would get his hight but alas my little short latina genes won out. Daughter is also 5’1 and my son will be lucky t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 02:27 AM
–	The Dating Issues Men Face Will Be The Same Issues The Women On Here's Future Son's Will Face. By pairing with the best man possible with the highest standards we can demand, we actually decrease the chance our boys will have dating issues. By picking masculine men who are decent looking,and decent human beings (and yes, there are many men that fit this category) we end up with fathers who are there for their sons and can help teach them proper social skills, grooming, and set them on a good career path. There are plenty of women who choose poorly. But by having exacting standards we are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 01:05 AM
–	Dating, marriage and children are not worth it for family-oriented men. It would not be impossible to find but very unlikely. Shit is expensive. KIDS are super expensive. Most families are duel income with the women making the lesser salary and lesser hours. However, there are definitely scenarios where a man takes a step back to parent after a high earning professional woman is ready to get back to work. This has been the case with me and my hubs several times throughout our 18 year relationship. I’m a dvm and at various times he’s been the primary parent and house…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/25 02:09 AM
2	Not trying to be misogynistic or incelly but why do women get into relationships if at all? Because husbands can be best friends, amazing lovers, great dads, and great partners in life. The right one makes life better. This is not gender specific either. The right person just makes life better!	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/25 11:00 PM
–	Expecting autistic men to mask and upgrade their entire lives, especially dating, while not even giving them a chance or ever trying to approach them is hypocritical and illiberal. In general, in polite society, as long as an individual is respectful, he or she should be treated politely. People who are rude to individuals with neurodiversity without cause are assholes. However, no woman is required to give their time, attention, lust, attraction to anyone else. We do not have to give anyone a shot. We do not have to cater to a male we don’t know or are not interested in. End of story.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 08:16 PM
1	Cheating is equally immoral no matter who does it, BUT men stand to suffer more when cheated on Most likely those cases were not US cases. They have some strange laws in Europe that do force non bio men to pay. OR the cases you are seeing have not fully worked their way through the legal system. A quick chat search will confirm this info. In the US if you are not the bio parent and go thru proper channels you will not have to pay. This of course may take a while but ultimately would be judged in favor of the man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/25 11:44 PM
1	Cheating is equally immoral no matter who does it, BUT men stand to suffer more when cheated on If the wife chooses to stay with the dude and the dude has has a support order - yes she will be paying because joint income will be going to the affair baby If a man is cheated on he has every right to demand a paternity test (even if he isn’t sure, he can secretly test). Once paternity is established he can divorce and not pay. Most courts would not make him pay once paternity is established.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/25 08:01 PM
6	Cheating is equally immoral no matter who does it, BUT men stand to suffer more when cheated on pretty sure if a man cheats, a baby can result and also the affair partner can lie about paternity if she is fucking other people. Women who cheat are absolutely vilified as much as a man. Ever heard of the Scarlet Letter? So dumb to play this game. Cheating is devastating no matter the gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/25 07:04 PM
0	Going dutch on dates is the best way to weed out women with a parasitic mentality. The funny thing is that I bet almost no dudes would hold this line if a very attractive, above their league woman who is giving signals of interest accepted a date with them. Lol imagine Joe blow on a date (which he initiated)with a 9/10 on all metrics, good job, obviously flirty, intelligent, funny. Date is going well. Check comes Joe blow - ok let’s split the bill! Great chick is like huh I thought he was into me…he asked ME on the date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 05:30 PM
–	Sex is a need, and men are losing today because they are not needed, which is a result of the Industrial Revolution. The same laws that protect and shield women also protect and shield men. Men are still valued and scrutinized for what they bring to the table. It’s just that now that women can be fully fledged humans independently, men have to step up on all areas if they want to find a good high quality relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/25 08:24 PM
2	Women over exaggerate their concerns of their safety. F 5’1, 125 lbs Almost any man could hold me or my 16 year old down, knock us out w one punch or rape us w just their bare hands. Most men don’t live w the fear that female individuals could kill, rape or maim them w nothing but their bare hands.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/25 08:23 PM
1	Women over exaggerate their concerns of their safety. Heh. Women should simultaneously choose and vet better (because it’s our fault if we end up w abusers) while also having a nonchalant attitude about all men and our safety. Yes men are more often victimized, often violently, by other MEN. Because men are vastly more likely to be perpetrators of severe violent crime. Which means us women, who on average, weigh 50+ pounds less then men need to be exceptionally cautious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/25 08:18 PM
6	The lie regarding nice guys lol. Declining an advance is not kicking someone in the balls. It’s…. Declining an advance vs leading someone on whom you are not interested in. Stupid analogy. Don’t hit on women if you think a polite rejection is akin to being assaulted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/25 08:33 PM
1	Sexual Shame in Women Women in the west are free to pursue their own sexual interests. I think it’s important to realize that the sexual revolution, the legalization of all porn, the whole sex positive movement, the media obsession with sexualizing women and the women themselves who use sex to sell music, a stream, an item are often actually working in service to the male gaze and sex drive. Most men love that casual sex has been more or less accepted. Sex is so risky for women and often a net negative. This will not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 08:28 PM
2	Women's self centeredness doesn't allow them to see things beyond themselves and what they can get from men. It’s called solipsism. Both sexes have their own solipsistic views. Both sexes have folks that have intolerant opinions or misguided views of the other. These views exist on a bell curve. Some folks are extremes some are in the center and some are just one or two standard deviations from the norm. You trying to label as women as having some sort of trait or behavior shows a very skewed world view.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/25 04:59 PM
2	Men being thirsty is the reason women have so much leverage in the dating game Wow my man just wow. If you think women as a class of humans are a net drain on society and resources I don’t know what to tell you. Children are societies biggest asset. Money is a social construct. A way to account for a unit of labor. You should think of this in units of labor. Women birth and raise children without which there is no society. And let’s not forget that the childcare, elder care, and household care is unpaid labor of which would cost 10s of thousands of dollars to pay someone e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 01:11 AM
1	Men being thirsty is the reason women have so much leverage in the dating game Bro women who are not in shared financial relationships generally have to work just like everyone else. And a lot of the women who are opting out are HIGH income earners, highly educated who have high standards. These gals pay a lot of taxes and provide the community with human capital especially in the education and medical fields.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 11:06 PM
5	Men being thirsty is the reason women have so much leverage in the dating game Testosterone levels are going down dramatically and with such easy access to shitty food, video games and porn what you want will happen naturally for the segment of men that are average. Dudes with high T and high drive will still be playing the game because testosterone drives much of male behavior from an evolutionary standpoint. Opportunism is a very human trait and will not be extinguished or altered because when one exploits an opportunity to good effect, the reward is self reinforcing. Wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 07:57 PM
9	What complaint COULD a man state about being a man, that you would FULLY agree, and sympathize with? And you your first thought IS NOT: "But it's because of other men and the patriarchy..." The lack of high paying, good benefit manufacturing and other hands on jobs that used to allow a man middle class life on a single income without having to go to collage or do extensive training Addictions (gambling, substances, porn), homelessness, mental health The widespread male genital mutilation as “normal” The generally disdain for men, especially heterosexual, stereotypical men in media, academia and polite society (often lefty progressive spheres)	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 02:11 AM
1	Women aversion to dating bisexual men is mostly due to traditional masculinity and rigid male gender norms. I have no contempt for gay or bi men but the idea of gay sex is the opposite of a turn on for me and most of the women i know. I support gay marriage and enjoy having gay male friends and even one bi friend. But thinking about the sex they have or watching two dudes kiss in person or on screen for example is an immediate no/skip.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/25 03:56 PM
2	Is a man acting "masculine" a prerequisite for you getting turned on by him? And, would you still be able to find someone who didn't act masculine arousing, so long as he looks hot? For me personally, absolutely. What we culturally refer to as masculine traits like being a lot bigger than me, fit/muscular are a huge turn on. Especially when coupled with being good in bed. Effeminate men are not a turn on at all for me. But that’s not the case for all women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/25 10:53 PM
8	Women aversion to dating bisexual men is mostly due to traditional masculinity and rigid male gender norms. You are correct. It’s wrong for women to try to counter condition men against what they find attractive or what they want in a partner. Conversely it’s also wrong for men to shame women for what they want - tall men, productive masculine men, men who don’t take dick up the ass. There is hypocrisy on both sides.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/25 03:53 PM
9	Women aversion to dating bisexual men is mostly due to traditional masculinity and rigid male gender norms. Just like men have every right to not feel comfortable dating sex workers or promiscuous women, women have every right to feel the way they do about dating men who fuck other men. We should not force reconditioning on either category of folks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/25 12:27 PM
39	Why do women hate guys who use OnlyFans when it’s pro feminist? A lot of women, if not most, do NOT think sex work of any sort is feminist profession . Perhaps a flavor of LibFems do. But us more traditional feminists dont hate or disavow the women who do it, but we support their escape from it if they choose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/25 09:07 PM
-1	Dating is garbage today due to the rise of Asymmetric Courtship Good for you my friend. So why aren’t you getting more LTRs lol sure some are ok with that but most really high quality women are not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 07:27 PM
12	Dating is garbage today due to the rise of Asymmetric Courtship Bro admits he uses escorts and drugs. Unsurprisingly, high quality women would find that repulsive	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 07:51 PM
0	Dating is garbage today due to the rise of Asymmetric Courtship lol. Deep in the comments OP cops to using drugs and escorts. And wonders why women are not interested beyond a date or two.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 07:50 PM
8	Why are modern woman so keen on "vetting" a man? Wrong. According to online data 1% of men have violent convictions and if you add in accusations (of which some are true and some are false) you get to 5-10% “Combining both, a conservative estimate might be 5-10% of men facing accusations or convictions for violent behavior, with convictions being a smaller subset (1-2%). This varies widely by region, socioeconomic factors, and definitions of “violent behavior.” Even at 1/100 that’s a lot higher than your 0000000001% That doesn’t even account f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 07:43 PM
–	Women’s bodies are respected and protected more than men’s For the boomer parents (including my RN mother) all thought it was better medically because of the gaslighting by the medical establishment. I had to pull up wiki on the origins of circumcision for my husband and the boomers too. Sadly both of my brothers are cut and they cut their boys (three more mutilated kids) The sister in law I talked to about it after the fact (once she realized my son wasn’t cut) thought it was weird at first and then I educated her and she has regrets she did it. I want…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/25 09:03 PM
–	Women’s bodies are respected and protected more than men’s I think you have some valid stand alone points that don’t need to be made in relation to women’s issues or how women’s bodies are perceived. You will make more headway with women if you leave us out of it and push for change on these issues with your fellow men and women who want to help. The best example is circumcision. This is absolutely genital mutilation and should be banned. But soooo many men are just used to it and want their sons to look the same. I had to make a a big stand against wha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/25 04:31 PM
2	Monogamy Is the Only Logical Sexual Pairing Model Evolutionarily speaking, humans are very interesting and in many ways different than other species as because both sexes can employ multiple mating strategies. Which strategy works best depends on individual and social factors. It all comes down to getting your genes in the next generation. Polygamy works in some situations, especially where dominate males at the top horde more resources and provide for multiple women + more communal raising of kids Spreading seed without commitment is a common …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/25 11:41 PM
2	Why do women usually judge women and men sexually more harshly than guys do ? I’m a woman. It’s because stripping porn sleeping around and selling sex is morally dubious at best and mentally and physically harmful at worst. And a lot of men have the same moral framework as I do. So I don’t think women are over represented in the judging	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 11:53 PM
1	Female Sexuality: The Power Nobody Wants to Admit Exists (Until It Stops Working) You are correct. I am just pointing out that the “power” OP is complaining that women have is derived from men desiring us. As is biologically necessary for the continuation of the species. women’s actual sexuality tends to be more passive. Our sexuality is only a currency because of men’s aggressive need to fuck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/25 12:23 AM
2	Female Sexuality: The Power Nobody Wants to Admit Exists (Until It Stops Working) It’s male thirst and the male sex drive that gives value to female sexuality. In general, female sexuality is often more passive with or without a component of displaying appearance for the male gaze. So turn your complaints toward that unruly high testosterone based sex drive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 08:01 PM
1	What are the effects of women increasingly attending college more than men and them being on the path to start earning more in the future? It’s a problem for many reasons. Not that women want to attend higher ed. the problem is men enrolling less. I would say, that if the percentage decrease in male attendance gets redirected to high paying trade schools and jobs, it’s less of an issue. Linemen, electrician etc. or entrepreneurship. If the % drop out end up as NEETs or low paying jobs then the problem is much worse. Yes many of these women w higher level degrees would not date very far down, in my experience about 60-70% marry men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/25 12:21 AM
5	It's not mysogynist for guys to tell their gf not to wear revealing clothes or not being comfortable with her going to clubs with her girlfriends. Sure. You can voice your objections and feelings. Just like she can choose to break up with you for being controlling. There are degrees of control. Who decides what is too revealing? Discuss your boundaries in the dating phase and it won’t be a problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/25 07:25 PM
2	Women love romance but men do romance. Yes. This is a byproduct of evolutionary biology. Sperm and male attention is cheap. Eggs and childrearing are NOT. Male mammals and birds must compete and present themselves in their best light and in some cases, provide material support if they want to mate. It’s life bro. Modern society has watered it down some but sperm is still cheap and male attention is cheap, low quality and often indiscriminate in service of male reproductive biology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/25 04:54 PM
17	How come women dont realize how hard is it for men to get laid ? Um… I don’t think many women think this or even care that much if men can or can’t get laid. No shit it’s harder to get laid for men. Anybody who doesn’t know this has no understanding of biology. A lot of men will take any opportunity to fuck. Most women will NOT. And if we do want to fuck, there is no shortage of all quality dick available because many men will take any opportunity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 05:41 PM
1	If society would become less hierarchical and more connected, that would actually benefit "losers", probably even in dating, and that's not a bad thing. We are just smart apes. Hierarchies are hard wired into our social species. Perhaps some are less hierarchical but with even a few who are driven to be at the top of the chain, they will impose their will on those who are more passive. This is why socialism and communism will never work. There are just too many who will exploit the weak and are driven to be the top and impose their will on others. Women often choose or are compelled to mate with those at the top. Which ends up genetically reinfo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 05:28 PM
1	Men need to be aware that they are easily replaceable I mean men do this too. HUMANs do this in the dating/courtship/relationship sphere. We all look to maximize happiness and maximize what we can get in a relationship. Perhaps women have a bit more leeway but higher value men do this shit all the time too. Ultimately, being picky and going with the best person you can possibly find is pretty normal and also drives human evolution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 08:17 PM
–	A violent felon has a greater chance of having a girlfriend while incarcerated, than a autistic man who never hurt a fly Take heart in knowing that you REALLY don’t want to be with the type of women who would date and fuck a felon. This goes for all the psycho chicks who think luigi is great for the unmanly cowardly act of shooting someone in the back. There are a lot of trash female humans and they end up with other trash humans.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/25 04:48 PM
0	Women's standards scale with their QoL, while men's standards adapt to our dating experience This is so silly. Of course as a woman improves herself and her situation in life, she will have access and the desire to be with better quality men. The EXACT same thing is true for men who have a glow up. Duh. It’s probably the one of primary reasons and motivation for dressing better, getting a better job, working out, gaining confidence. Of course these things make you feel better about yourself as well but that also makes you a more attractive person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 08:18 PM
2	Size doesn't matter to women until it's their own partner who's small. I just don’t understand why this silly perception keeps coming up time and again. Men are sooo freakin obsessed w dick size. Are there a few size queens out there? Sure!! Just like there are some men that only date chicks with big asses. There are many many gals who prefer smaller size because bigger dicks hurt! Look up vaginismus. The vast majority of women are cool with average dicks especially if a dude is an attentive lover. Start worrying about getting girls off. The dick is often the least…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/25 09:06 PM
3	How often do you find yourself initiating intimacy with your partner? And when either of you isn’t feeling it, how do you handle that? 48F, married almost 18 years. 2 teens. Pretty even. Generally go at it 3 times a week (hubs has about a 36 hour refractory period) He’s a fit silver fox, very generous in bed, so if he hasn’t given the signals for over 48 hours, I’m usually pouncing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/25 06:12 PM
2	Single mothers symbolize something deeply painful to a lot of men holy cow. if this is how some men really think, I do not blame women for avoiding men entirely and checking out or having super high standards. This is such crazy projection and a lack of just basic understanding of human biology and psychology. ffs, people fuck. people like to fuck a lot. when people fuck, even with protection, sometimes pregnancy occurs. how about thinking of the basic human decency of NOT aborting a child and instead choosing to raise him/her despite hardships, despite things…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/25 05:54 PM
1	Fit women, what body type are you most attracted to in a man? Fit gal. Married a skinny guy (was a marathoner) who became more toned natty body builder physique. I joke that I like anything from Timothee chalamet to a thicc fluffy style body builder. Dad bod is ok too as long as an overall healthy and active mentality is core. Dislike skinny fat and fat fat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/25 11:23 PM
5	Do you think a lot of your fears about men, might be purpetuated by the entertainment industry? Most of our fears come from personal experiences or the experiences of our friends and family. Sure watching serial killer shows don’t help. But we are primed to fear by real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/25 11:13 PM
1	Nerdy men who want a partner who shares their specific interests are more delusional than women who want a partner who makes 300k a year in his 20s I mean I'm female and decently attractive (after a glow up in my twenties) and LOVE all things sci fi, fantasy, some graphic novels, and gaming. My all time favorite movie is Aliens and right now im playing Stalker 2. I have over 200 hours and beat Elden ring (a glorious achievement.) I've been married to a guy who is less nerdy than me and have 2 kids and still get my geek on. I also have a graduate degree. I'm nerdier than most male nerds! I LOVE sharing my nerd shit with my husband. Edit to a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/25 12:16 AM
–	Part of the growing divide between men and women comes from the idea that men should silently accept misandry as justified payback for patriarchy Huh? What positions of power do any women hold even now?? How many female oligarchs or country leaders or Fortune 500 CEOs can you name? Yes poor men have always been used as fodder. By other men. Yes there has never been much upper mobility for anyone but even less for women Please name me some female oligarchs w power. I’ll “name” the only four I know off the top of my head without googling. Steve Jobs widow, Jeff bazos’ wife and Marianne? Adelson. And some of those kardasian chicks. Your turn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/25 09:49 PM
6	Part of the growing divide between men and women comes from the idea that men should silently accept misandry as justified payback for patriarchy Bro what? Oligarchy sure but still a patriarchy. Because each individual woman was still under the control of her father, husband, clergy, local, and state rules baring ownership, banking, allowing marital rape etc. all poor people had it bad but that doesn’t mean women still were not controlled by men. Ffs Also edit to add almost every position of power EVER historically and even now was/is occupied by a man. How is that not patriarchy? Esp since women were disallowed in such positions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/25 02:18 PM
12	How often do you encounter a man you're attracted to? Every day. I go to the gym a lot and have a public facing job so I see lots of people every day. There is always at least one fellow I think is attractive. I’m happily married and only ever look. Since I’m older now I find a wider age range attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/25 05:13 AM
1	Women’s reliance on passive dating is self-sabotage and they know it Untrue. There are spontaneous abortions/ miscarriages when resources are scarce. There is evidence of midwifery and abortifacients have been documented since 2000 BCE. Also, many male species in nature do, in fact, directly support their young with food and protection. Not all for sure - there are many reproductive strategies inn nature but a good portion of bird, fish and mammal species do have male parental care	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/25 04:26 PM
1	Women’s reliance on passive dating is self-sabotage and they know it You keep forgetting this is a free country. You are free to keep complaining about women complaining just like the gal is free to pull out of the market and keep complaining if she wants. We are human we like to complain. We like to blame. Agree that the individuals who do less complaining and more working on themselves and reflecting probably get better results in the end By the way, YOU are free to stop listening to women complaining	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/25 04:05 PM
6	Women’s reliance on passive dating is self-sabotage and they know it choosing comfort or choosing to disengage IS agency. as its a choice to drop out of the market if one doesn't find what the market is selling compelling. its a free country. we are free to complain about whatever we want. just as you are. ad nauseam	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/25 04:04 PM
3	Women’s reliance on passive dating is self-sabotage and they know it a big "quality" most women want is a man that is INTERESTED in her and PROACTIVE. These are masculine traits that are desirable to most of us. This is how most mate selection works in nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/25 03:59 PM
5	Women’s reliance on passive dating is self-sabotage and they know it She's Just Not Into You, bro. Women who are attracted and interested in a man let it be known. It may not be in exactly the same manner of communication you are used to, women have different communication and body language styles than men. There is not a lot of benefit for most women to chase after men who do not express their interest first.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/25 03:51 PM
4	Seeing sex as a cold and objectifying thing is wrong. Sex is, in reality, the exact opposite of that. Excellent thought process. Now let’s take it one step further and ban pornography that depicts degrading sex acts, violence, racism, loli. Imagine a world where sex is thought of as a loving act and not an act of dominance, choking, and degradation. So glad to see a man understand how horrible porn and modern day depictions of sex are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/25 07:50 PM
1	Feminism, as an ideological framework, is not enough So that’s the point, I don’t think most of us really view life through the lens of feminism. Few of us are part of a movement, almost no women I’ve ever met has even read ONE book written by a feminist author and most women themselves do not know the different types of feminism. All humans look through the lens of their personal experiences. Very few individuals actually fully ascribe to red pill, manoswphere, true feminism or whatever. We look through the lens of our experiences and might loose…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/25 06:02 PM
1	Feminism, as an ideological framework, is not enough There are multiple flavors of feminism. Do you know the difference between a rad fem and a lib fem? Secondly, there is no truly organized feminist movement or leaders anymore. There are a few "feminist" orgs but their purposes are vastly different. Eg WoLF vs planned parenthood. Everything you discuss falls under some nebulous cultural ideal of feminism. You have sex work positive fems and you have fems that get labeled TERFS. Again, there is NO broad movement. You have rad fems who want to get …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 10:31 PM
2	Has anyone else found that Right Wing Man/Left Wing Woman pairings seem more common than the reverse? I believe it was Andrew Shultz who made this joke/observation recently “there are no real men over 5’9” who support democrats/waltz/harris to paraphrase Honestly I find this take surprisingly accurate and I live in central California. If a woman wants to date a tall, masculine man, I bet the odds are very skewed toward that man being conservative or at least a bar stool republican	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 04:53 PM
2	Paternity tests should a standard part of the birthing process. Bro no one is blocking your or your kid from doing genetic testing ffs. NO ONE is stopping you. It’s requiring other people to pay for it or requiring a medical procedure. Or requiring through government enforcement and/or keeping DNA data bases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 07:16 PM
4	Paternity tests should a standard part of the birthing process. Have you had a kid? Literally every test or vaccine ever I had to sign consent. And I absolutely opted out of some things like vaccinating for Hep B immediately at birth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 07:10 PM
4	Paternity tests should a standard part of the birthing process. I’m anti the goverment forcing me to do any medical procedure INCLUDING vaccines.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 07:08 PM
3	Paternity tests should a standard part of the birthing process. So dumb. We have this argument over and over. The government doesn’t need to pay for this. I don’t want to pay for this. YOU can pay for it yourself. YOU can accept the fall out from this choice OR you can be mature and lay it out that you want a test before you have a kid with someone. In the event of legal issues, a paternity test can be forced by the state. This is never going to happen anyways so this is all in the realm of imagination.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 07:02 PM
10	Why raising men’s standards could change dating for everyone For a large church of me men, the drive to get ones pp wet and chase his own pleasure will far outstrip any genuine effort to change his personal behavior for the good of all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 12:06 AM
–	The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies. I’m so confused. What’s the difference between betabux here and going abroad to find someone who (checks notes) will also just be interested in you for what you can provide, and doubly so since it’s likely that gal is also looking for US citizenship lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/25 06:34 PM
2	When a conventionally unattractive woman low-key brags about her hedonistic sex life, how to rationalize it? Your thought should be “good for them if that’s what they want, especially if they are open and honest with their partners. That’s not something I’m into but it’s a free country!”	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/25 09:13 PM
1	It's sad that women have been conditioned to be self serving and overly interested in men's money and resources. <sigh> you must be very young and not understand evolution. Every single behavior we have from aggression, to showing empathy, to how we nurture our kids is based on past evolutionary pressures. This is why rape still exists. Because it’s a (horrid) reproductive strategy but it can result in offspring. And if you really want to understand things, CULTURE also runs in tandem with evolution. Ie - cultures are a group wide manifestation of our behaviors we find most advantageous and those behaviors…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/25 04:37 PM
1	It's sad that women have been conditioned to be self serving and overly interested in men's money and resources. My friend you should read a book or two. Evolutionary biology colors all that we do. Do you not prefer young, attractive fecund women? I suggest reading The Red Queen by Matt Ridley if you are not a troll and actually interested in why as individuals and on aggregate certain behaviors are common and stand the test of time. Lol bad in us for wanting a mate that will help provide time, energy and resources in rearing his young. Hmm do you not understand that selecting for top tier mates (or cuckho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/25 08:56 PM
3	It's sad that women have been conditioned to be self serving and overly interested in men's money and resources. Bro it’s evolutionary biology. It’s literally how the sexually dimorphic human species evolved. Love can now come into play but historically, resources and attention have been a proxy for a good mate which in turn leads to (hopefully) offspring. Which results in better evo fitness. This little piece of red pill is true on a base level. Again, that doesn’t mean we are not human and are not capable of love. We have to consider ourselves and our future children when we evaluate mates. Or at least w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 05:12 PM
2	How turned off would you be if before sex, he pulled out a consent form? As others have said this is a meaningless thought exercise as consent can be withdrawn at any time during an encounter for any reason. This form would not be enforceable for either party.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/25 08:20 PM
1	Do attractive men make worse partners ? Very true. Objectively my guy is a 9/10 looks very fit, 6 pack, 5’11, a professional that makes good money (like me) and a 10/10 on all other general metrics. He could definitely get a lot of hot young side pieces if he wanted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 07:28 PM
1	Do attractive men make worse partners ? I married the most attractive and awesome man I ever dated. How I was treated by other men didn’t seem to have anything to do with looks. The less attractive ones could be just as awful as attractive. It seemed to be more on how they were raised and their general relationships with their female friends and relatives. A decent portion of the really good looking, socially and financially well off, college educated men I know seem to be serial monogamists with women of similar background. Most are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 07:10 PM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market I dunno about that. I think most women just find it gross just like many men think women who are promiscuous are gross. Many people just find either of those things gross. I really doubt most women are pining over the type of dude who is interested in being a passport bro and the kind of dynamic that dude is after in a relationship. Remember - there are a good deal of women who will be happy single with their wine and cats. Even if 25% of eligible dudes went abroad I’m betting they were the invi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 03:26 AM
1	Dating advice cliches are also ruining modern dating. All of these things will make you a more interesting person and often just a better human being. Will they get you a gf or a wife? No guarantees. Men are not main characters in video games where if you unlock achievements you get a reward.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/25 09:47 PM
–	Its very rare for a man to find a woman who genuinely likes him for who he is as a human being, instead of what he provides. Even when you are friends with someone, you still have to bring something to the table - conversation, empathy, company and good conversation, a helping hand, paying for dinner out now at then. Why would a woman date, marry and mate with someone who didn’t provide: empathy, good communication, generous sexual skills, a solid work ethic and a willingness to be generous with time and resources (an important proxy for being a good partner and father), someone who prioritizes their significant other…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:17 PM
1	Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually? I married the guy with whom I had the best sex of my life. Still married 17 years later and we still have great sex. Definitely helps to marry someone who is good at sex and centers their parters pleasure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 01:18 AM
2	A relationship should last a minimum of four years before marriage and preferably seven Way too long. Especially for women who are dating after 25. If you are over 25-27 and unsure about marriage after 1-2 years of being with someone then an individual should move on if marriage/children are important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/25 10:25 PM
2	A relationship should last a minimum of four years before marriage and preferably seven Way too long. Especially for women who are dating after 25. If you are over 25-27 and unsure about marriage after 1-2 years of being with someone then an individual should move on if marriage/children are important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/25 10:25 PM
–	The Trans Debate, Physical Differences, and the Contradictions in Feminist Theory on Dating and Safety This is third wave vs fourth wave. Most Fourth wave feminists do not believe that male born individuals can fully assume female identity in all situations (sports, prisons, shelters) Not all feminists believe the same things. Keep in mind most 4th wave subs and groups that point out have been banned on Reddit and until recently banned on Twitter. Check out ovarit.com if you want to see where a subset of feminists and lesbians have been forced to migrate to. I might even get banned for bringing i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/25 07:26 PM
4	Feminism has made men weak lol your first sentence is incorrect in so many ways I can’t even read the rest of your screed. There have been multiple waves of feminism with different ideas. Just look into lib fem third wave vs 4th wave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/25 06:57 PM
1	Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The Statistics The great thing about a free country is you don’t have to get married! You can opine on this sure, but plenty of men and women still value marriage and 50% work out. There are no guarantees in life. For most people that shot at happiness and family outweighs the risks. Heh and I bet any of these ladies you fantasize about bringing to the states are looking for marriage. And also a good portion are just looking for marriage as a means to get into the USA so good luck with that plan lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/25 06:37 PM
4	There are lots of women who will counterintuitively RAISE their standards in the face of nonsuccess in dating Raising my (47f) standards significantly after working on myself (weight loss, career, better communication) was the best thing I ever did. Met my husband who checked all my standards after 10 years of dating dudes who had a lot of flaws because I didn’t love myself enough to only accept excellence. Married 17 years now. This doesn’t work for everyone and yes, one risks ending up alone. But for many women, alone is better than being w a guy who doesn’t check all the boxes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 09:23 PM
1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification lol lets fix that. SOME women want to be seen and treated as trophies. And it's a minority of women at that. Love how you and some other men frame women as "a reward." gross	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 09:29 PM
1	Modern feminism has caused damage to the healthy romantic dynamic between men and women. Has there ever been a “healthy romantic dynamic?” Defined by who? During what time period? What you yearn for is likely some socially constructed fiction that if ever was true, was only true for a small minority of people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 06:26 PM
10	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence Title nine has to do with education and sports sir, not employment. Title 9 refers to Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, a landmark U.S. federal law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance. Its main purpose is to ensure gender equity in education. The legal system has nothing to do with gender imbalances in certain work places. Ffs teaching is mostly women and computer engineering is mostly men. Wher…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 10:28 PM
–	Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to women Easy solution. The natural consequence of ejaculating inside a women is pregnancy. If you do not want to risk everything that goes along with ejaculating inside a women, then make the choice to not do that. Life is not fair. Pregnancy is absolutely not fair. It’s not fair I have had to suffer through periods my whole life. It’s not fair that I had two rough pregnancies. It’s not fair that pregnancy alters my body. It just is. Many women do not even have the choice of abortion anymore. When there…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 10:08 PM
1	Feminists fearing and resenting men they never met is called sexism (II) Ok. I will switch genders because I have a son as well and you better be sure I’m also teaching him a lot of bitches be crazy. I’m absolutely sure now you do not have children. Because all fathers teach their daughters to be cautious of men. Huh. This must make the fathers sexist too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:25 PM
0	Feminists fearing and resenting men they never met is called sexism (II) I don’t think it’s sexism to understand and internalize (or have experienced) that the vast majority of crimes committed against us are perpetrated by men. The natural result of this in some cases is that we might have a general fear or caution around men. If you have a daughter, is it sexist to teach her to be wary of men??? What kind of father would NOT instill a hefty caution of male individuals in their daughters?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 07:14 PM
4	Online dating for men is really now not much worse than in person - you can be a desirable guy and still only match with hèffers When you characterize overweight women as “heifers” it’s unsurprising that the disdain you have for women gets reflected a fewer number of dates and matches. The obesity problem is just as prevalent in men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 09:10 PM
1	The only real form of love is unconditional love. This is such naive take. Of COURSE love is conditional lol. One falls in love with another human based on a set of past, current and future personal characteristics, conditions and actions. You just contradicted yourself in your own statement. Unconditional is unconditional. Then you give the conditions of abuse or being used. These are conditions. Here are some others: partner changes religion or politics and is no longer on the same social/cultural or emotional path as you. Partner decides the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 05:45 PM
4	Mandatory paternity/DNA testing You are perfectly free to feel offended if a girl brings a friend or pepper spray with her on a date. You are free to surreptitiously test your children. You are free to let the women you are dating and in LTRs know that you will want a paternity test and that it would be a deal breaker for you if that person doesn't agree. Women are entitled to feel however they feel about their significant other demanding a paternity test out of the blue. And it absolutely can be a proxy for trust. And no, I d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 10:58 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Unfortunately to remove abusers from positions of power a few eggs had to be broken. The dam had to break wide open for the abuse to be taken seriously. Some men were falsely accused. I acknowledge that. I have not heard of any convictions that were later proven innocent. Mostly repetitional harm. Sucks but even with all then metoo stuff we still have men like Diddy who spent a life time abusing men and women. And the civil rights movement was absolutely much more of an organized movement than a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 09:07 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Dumb take. There is no organized “feminist” movement. There are a few organizations like planned parenthood and the like but there isn’t even a womanisphere of ideologues. Sure there are some algorithms based creators that man hate but the idea of a Movement is laughable. The me too movement was a direct result of fuckers like weinestien and Cosby and all the non famous men that harass us and worse. Did some men get accused unfairly, sure. But I’ll take a few misses to get the real predators out…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 05:42 PM
1	“Can you cook?” is a valid and important question for any prospective partner Depends how you ask it. Totally agree basic cooking is a minimum requirement for both genders. If you ask it in a way that makes it sound like you expect her to cook for you… red flag. If you say something like “I love cooking! I make a mean lasagna. Do you enjoy cooking? Do you have a go to dish?” No problem!	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 09:42 PM
18	Women with at least one son: Did having a son make you more sympathetic to men's issues and more disturbed by the prevalence of mainstream open misandry? I have a 13 year old son. Absolutely sympathetic to men’s issues like mental health, boys and men falling behind in education, addiction, homelessness. Absolutely do not think there is or teach victimhood mentality of believing there is prevalent “misandry”. This is NOT a healthy way of tackling problems that affect the male sex. I also have a teen daughter and I also do not teach a victimhood mentality of everything is sexist for her either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 09:06 PM
4	Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life? Some women feel that way some don’t. Use your context clues. It’s not that hard. Make eye contact and smile. If she smiles back and holds eye contact say hi. In many situations, friendly chat is welcome in American society. Chatting in lines in grocery stores, complimenting someone on a nice lift in gym etc. practice this kind of stuff with people of all ages, including women until it becomes natural. Unless one is neurodivergent, it is quite easy to tell if someone wants to engage with you. You…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 11:06 PM
3	Why do women dress provocatively if they don't like most men? Sure. I used to be 249lbs. No one ever looked at me. I changed my life around. I feel good about it. I like showing off my hard work. I like looking good. I guess that’s vain. Acknowledgment by others who share my hobby (lifting) or notice my hard work is probably a big reason why myself lots of people who lift dress showy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 04:45 AM
6	Why do women dress provocatively if they don't like most men? I’ve work hard in the gym to be very fit. look damn good for my age. I dress in a way that makes it easy to see my hard work. Love bear shoulders and arms, cute dresses. Certainly not super provocative but generally tight fitting. Because of course I’m aware people look. I don’t mind people looking and enjoy respectful compliments from all people. It’s validation for the 6+ hours a week I spend lifting. It’s validation for the no makeup I sport. Most importantly, I feel great in what I wear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 04:47 PM
2	Many women and men on this sub are willfully ignorant about male genital mutilation Proud female intactivist with 4th wave feminist leanings. ALL genital mutilation before 18 years of age should be illegal. It’s immoral. This includes chopping off healthy breasts in underage transmen. This includes FGM. And this absolutely includes chopping off healthy penile tissue. All humans deserve and intact body until they are adults. Minors cannot consent!! (*obviously this excludes truly medically necessary surgeries) I put my foot down with my husband and both sides of the family when …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 08:27 PM
-2	4B isn’t a movement: it’s a group therapy session Don’t even give this any head space. A vanishingly small minority of women are indicating interest in the 4B ideology. This subset of women are probably not the type of women any of y’all would want to date anyways. After a month or two all the histrionics will die down (provided trump keeps his promise to take no further action) Women who are DTF will still be DTF. The crazies libs will still be crazy libs but most won’t be able to keep away from dick. The smart gals will just vet more and excl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 10:31 PM
–	Feminist hate and lies helped Trump to win I voted for a republican for the first time ever for president this cycle. The democrat machine needed to be punished for 10 million illegals, endless wars, deception with senile Biden, no primary anointing of a terrible candidate, censorship, failing to protect women’s abortion rights at the same time they let dudes in women’s prisons and sports. I’m a mixed race (mex/white) woman with a graduate level degree in CA. It’s low key people like me who said enough despite all the propaganda.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/24 05:12 PM
4	Q4W: Do you think it's understandable if a guy is celibate simply because he doesn't like his gender role in dating? Cool cool. Men are allowed to make dating choices based on personal experience and preferences. Probably will not get many dates. Most gals want a dude to pursue and act interested.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 10:04 PM
3	What role does IQ play in a man's attractiveness? It's IQ + charisma/social skills + good looking = better success. unfortunately, high IQ is often paired with poor social skills/low EQ which is very very unattractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 09:27 PM
2	Women should be taught that they too can find joy in providing for their partner. Heh. Almost we are in agreement. In a free country we all DO have the right to complain and complain as loudly and vociferously as want. In fact, it seems these days complaining and grievance dialog is about as American as apple pie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/24 05:57 PM
2	Women should be taught that they too can find joy in providing for their partner. Individuals should take responsibility informed choices they make in any situation. Provided their choices are based truthful data, no lies or deception. How much responsibility an individual bear for a given situation would be dependent on the issue. Does a man take full responsibility for picking a women who cheats on him behind his back and commits paternity fraud? He should have chose better. He shouldn’t have chose a trash woman. Does a man take responsibility for walking in a shady area an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/24 03:09 PM
2	Women should be taught that they too can find joy in providing for their partner. Umm, you sound like a full blown misogynist when you question if giving women full agency is a good thing. Is it a good thing to give poor people full agency? Is it a good thing to give gay people full agency? Is it a good thing to give black full agency? If you believe all adult humans are equal, then definitionally, all humans, including women, deserve full agency. All the rest of your statement has to do with individual choices that a person with full agency is allowed to make. Mistakes and a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/24 09:47 PM
1	To women, how would you feel if your partner spent a lot of money on his past partners but is relatively frugal with you? Not a problem at all. My husband wasted a lot of money on his ex wife. She took advantage of his income to spend it on frivolous shit. After he dumped her he learned from his mistake of prioritizing HOT over stable/decent looking/makes good money. We are both better off for him having learned that. Just like women can change what they want in a partner as they get older/more experienced. We created such a stable, two income partnership that we are now in a financial position that either of us ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/24 08:25 PM
1	Women should be taught that they too can find joy in providing for their partner. First -hypergamy is not a “concept.” It is a fundamental, biologically based reproductive strategy that has been honed over millennia. This has to do with the biologic fact that sperm is cheap and birthing/rearing young is expensive and can be life threatening/altering. What is amazing about humans is that each gender has multiple mating strategies. Western countries have taken the lead in allowing women full agency. Women can now employ whichever strategy they choose. Which men have always done…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 06:12 PM
3	Men being stay at home dads My husband took on that role for 6-12 months twice so far during our journey together. It made the most sense for use financially. Hes suuuch an amazing father and when he was a house husband, doing it right, no short cuts…damn it made him hotter than ever in my eyes. Ultimately, he doesn’t/didn’t want that role full time. However, he has always managed about 60% of the house/kid stuff because his career is far more flexible than mine is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 08:11 PM
3	Most men are what Esther Vilar called 'The Manipulated Man'. OP I think it’s valid to think your way if you have a very superficial/ surface level understanding of human behavior based on just the male side of the reproductive equation that you observe on the day to day. Reproduction and mating strategies are vastly different for the two sexes because we are very sexually dimorphic. From all your answers, you are very biased toward what you see as an imbalance. Since you do not experience life as female and likely have done no reading on real evolution bi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/24 07:26 PM
2	"Most men are bad/selfish in bed" As a general rule, if you want to be thought of as "good in bed" by most women, it's simple -- there is a whole book on it. "she cums first." This should be the motto of every male lover. Often if she cums first, maybe she can cum again! Most of us consider THE WHOLE experience as "sex" while you, I believe, are just thinking of PIV. This is a big disconnect. b/c a lot of us cum from foreplay or with PIV PLUS stimulation of our clit/nipples etc. A lot of women cannot orgasm from PIV alone and if…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/24 07:19 PM
4	For Every 16 IQ Points Above 100, a Woman Is 40% Less Likely to Get Married High IQ post right here. My friend. You spelled you’re wrong. Also, high IQ people do not site reddit as a source or a nebulous Jordan Peterson link. The structure and punctuation/spacing of this post is low IQ. 138 LMAO	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/24 04:42 PM
0	Women who are against and mad at paternity test. Just....why? I don’t believe you are a woman and if you are, being a childless kid hater (per ur responses here) disqualifies you from this discourse. You will never understand being pregnant, what that puts one through emotionally and physically. Women’s lives are in jeopardy in abortion banned states. All the women on here are telling you how we feel about this. There are exceptions to the general rule but being accused of cheating (and yes, asking for a paternity test is a light accusation) is a deal brea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/24 08:16 PM
1	Sam Bankman-Fried's girlfriend Caroline. Um, what? Disagree. Average. Esp if say Jason mamoa GoT era =10 Also, remember women find most men mid at best	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/24 09:39 PM
40	Sam Bankman-Fried's girlfriend Caroline. Um, what? Zucks wife is a fucking pediatrician. They met in college. Perhaps he actually loves her and loves that she was with him prior to being rich and famous. And is the mother of his three kids. FFS. you all harp on on how shallow you perceive women to be. Zuck is not a handsome dude. SBF is an autistic homely weirdo and surrounded himself with weirdos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/24 06:12 PM
1	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman <hold my beer> I'm still here because im laid up from surgery and I aint got shit to do. I feel like your knowledge of debate is not great. You keep throwing around "straw man" as a deflection to actual criticism of your defined? ..argument or lack there of Steelmanning your original post: rhetorical point? (or do you really believe this ugh) - women are analogous to capitalism, landlords and companies and are all copies of each other Endless options are ruining society hypergamy and personality…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 10:13 PM
5	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman Huh? I’m genuinely confused or guess you are just a troll. We are all human and daydream about winning the lottery or fucking Sidney Sweeney. (Guilty and I’m married to a dude). You were the one claiming that if guys had 2000 female options different choices would be made… which I deduce to mean they would be out acting like “chad” if you prefer to dog. That gives dogs a bad name anyways. Lol I’m done with this thread. Bro you are either a troll or lack the understanding of debate and argument. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 09:34 PM
6	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman Strawman to what point of yours? That women don’t actually have choice? Paraphrasing your argument: women have the illusion of choice. It’s not real. It’s fake. They are average like the 30K worker. We are a unit of society and as such we owe society …..what exactly? Besides the above stated - labor, taxes	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 09:28 PM
6	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman Wow I’m having a hard time following your point. My guess is you are a pretty young guy. Do you disagree that a decent % of men just want to be with one woman who loves them? Probably more than 50%? George Clooney and Amal? Keanu and his lady love? These are not even good examples because they are 0.0001%. Are you telling me you have no men in your life who wouldn’t leave his wife if he had the choice of many many hot other women? Edit: to clarify - I believe we are mostly serial monogamists and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 09:23 PM
4	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman Do you really believe this? Some men would. But many men actually just want the best gal they can who loves him and one who loves him back. I will admit a lot of women on the sub make broad claims about men. Men make a lot of broad claims about each other. But I bet a greater than 50% of men would choose to build a life w the best one of those 2000 (provided it’s a representative sample)	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 08:51 PM
11	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman Uhhh we work, pay taxes, own businesses just like men now. Are you going to oblige us to reproduce for you too? Not only do we do the above work, when partnered, mothers or caregivers for parents, we are providing VAST unpaid labor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 08:47 PM
5	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman Got some real Einstein’s here lol. Women didn’t much choice but to be married in those decades. And guess what. It’s not an illusion of choice when we actually have a new choice. We don’t have to partner with men we don’t love or are not attracted to. That’s actually one of the biggest choices we were ever allowed to have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 08:43 PM
3	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman Yikes. If most men settled, No wonder women initiate most of the divorces! Lol also, I thought it was women betabuxxing and settling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 08:40 PM
0	The whole Pill Debates are the wrong focus point. Its a societal issue. And culture is the problem, neither man nor woman Wow. As a woman I love being compared to landlords and companies 😆 Plus the lived reality for thousands of years has been the subjugation of (at minimum) half the human population. There is not an illusion of choice. There IS choice depending on the individual or circumstances. To use your silly comparison- landlords in highly valued markets have all the choice in the world vs landlords in shithole Kentucky Men with good looks and resources have lots of choice as do women! Companies are at the m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 08:32 PM
–	The fight for Equality has become a weapon to sideline most men correction "resources and opportunities have been redistributed" --- NO resources and opportunities that were denied to women based on sex have been opened up for women who wish to pursue whatever. You lose all credibility when you and other men say this shit. We were not allowed to have bank accounts, we were only minimally allowed in college. we were excluded from most job opportunities. NOW, lets look at credible arguments: there is no need for affirmative action for women anymore. agree we s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/24 09:41 PM
2	Most Women are too trendy to trust their dating advice, so asking them is pointless Good sir, I am a woman. Everything is about me. <curtsy> To give a counter narrative using personal and witnessed examples. Vs fictional. Don’t really have a lotta study driven data on this one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/24 12:46 AM
0	Would you prefer to date in the West or Asia as a Man lol tell me you don’t know anything about Japanese culture without telling me you know nothing. Hope the dater is good looking, excellent job and lots of income.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/24 09:27 PM
9	Most Women are too trendy to trust their dating advice, so asking them is pointless Lots and lots of generalizations here. Women are not a monolith even if we share a lot of traits. Ultimately a majority follow evolutionary bio precepts. Mate up or across the social hierarchy. Masculine good looking men are prized. Men follow their evo bio precepts too. Young and fertile. Spread seeds or mate monogamously and rear young. Women are more sociable than men. Yes, a lot, especially women at the top of the desirability hierarchy do a lot of stupid shit. So stop looking at those low I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/24 08:08 PM
2	What is the appropriate response for a gamer bf/husband to his woman that protests his hobby? I’m a gamer. F47 married w 2 kids to a non gamer (unless a new COD is out) It is really simple. I don’t know why this is a paragraphs long discussion or why non gamer women need to be so extreme/hyperbolic in hating gaming men. All dopamine hitting activity that is individualistic in nature should be done in moderation and in proportion to household responsibilities relationship maintenance child and pet care needs. This includes women isolating to read erotic fantasy novels to the exclusion of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/24 03:05 AM
2	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? We are human. Emotions trump logic ALL the time. And your logic as an individual or man is not the same logic a woman or other individual will have. As we are emotional beings (we are not Vulcans last time I checked) emotions always factor into decisions ESPECIALLY when joining two households and creating new life together. Also remember we all view the world through a solipsistic lens. I absolutely know you can find like minded women who would be happy to listen to ur calmly reasoned arguments.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 06:45 PM
2	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? 1-4 perfectly fine. 5 - most women would not blow up a relationship if the man’s desire for testing was discussed and agreed upon prior to getting pregnant. She has then choice then to honor his request/insecurity. Frame the question this way and I bet you would get 80% or above agreement. BUT most of these requests or scenarios are out of the blue, undiscussed, and as presented, unwarranted (suspicious behavior it’s warranted!) So yes, our fragile, womanly egos will react to an an unwarranted r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:40 PM
4	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? See here is the thing. Thankfully us women are free now and we do not have to “get over our ego”. I’m sure there are a lot of other shit you would like to say about and enforce about women. You can think this garbage all you want and please please continue to talk and be like this overtly so all us birthers risking our lives and make sure us and our fragile egos can find decent dudes who are NOT YOU. Ones who don’t have fragile egos themselves wouldn’t accuse of us on the birthing bed or after o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:32 PM
1	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? Bruv, my guy, my dude - I’m sure there are ways to get paternity tests shipped in secret to your country. You know what a VPN is right? Buy a bit of bit coin. It will almost be what a woman in an anti abortion state has to go thru!! And a hair on what women in fundamentalist Muslim countries go thru. Maybe you will gain some reproductive empathy as to what women sometimes have to go thru to access care. It’s not banned to self test here in ‘Merica where most of us are. Sure it might not be legal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:24 PM
10	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? Ummm also… when the fuck to medical professionals routinely ask questions about DA??? I’m 47 and have never been asked this? They ask because the woman shows up in the ER with a black eye you fuck wad. They don’t ask you if you underwent DA if you show up with a serious UTI. They ask under a set of circumstances that could be the result of DA. Soooo if your chick has been covering up messages or is staying out late without reason or you catch her in a lie - sure! Ask for a test! The relationship…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 01:07 AM
16	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? It is absolutely an accusation of possibly cheating. Are you daft? And let me tell you the qualifier of “possibly” means shit to hormonal woman who might die or be maimed in the birthing bed. Edit to add if you spring a question like this on someone unexpectedly while or after they are pregnant in absence of existing domestic issues , you sir are the idiot and deserve the fallout. So you better plan that shit ahead of time because rational or not, we feel how we feel about this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 12:57 AM
26	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? Bruv. You are free to get ur kid tested. You are not free to tell the woman how she should feel being accused of cheating. If this is something important to you let it be known before you stick your dick in someone. It may give YOU piece of mind but you may have destroyed the foundation of your relationship. Also, if it’s such an issue just do it in secret. But also be prepared if she finds out. FAFO works both ways. Edit to add: if the relationship is rocky and there is suspicion of cheating th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 12:09 AM
3	Why did so many Modern women decide they don't want kids? I have two and that was super hard has both my husband and I had professional jobs in our 30s and we lived in high COL areas requiring that we both worked. If there had been more and cheaper support, I would have had more. In my 40s now and wish my reproductive window was larger. We even looked into IVF but it seemed to risky so no more babies for us. I’m sad that the opportunity for a large family has passed now. I didn’t want that in my twenties or thirties but now that we have stable careers …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/24 06:00 PM
1	Q4W: Do you find your male partner attractive? “Tried” is the key word here. Most of the gals I know that “tried” old deleted it within a few weeks to months after being inundated with dudes that send dick pics or escalate too quickly to wanting sex. So again, OLD is not a measure of real life. Sure it can be a popularity contest because of how it was designed (designed by men to try to make money off of YOU) keep in mind not many women are on it. The types of women who are on OLD consistently are probably mostly not the type of women who yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 05:36 PM
2	Balancing Reproductive Rights: Sentience, Emotional Connection, and Equality I appreciate that you are probably not a troll and yes. I did not engage in your other arguments because in you immediately and ignorantly dismissed pregnancy as something a burden of limited time and that medical care has basically made pregnancy something that is easy and I infer that means it should not be used as an argument for abortion (edit to add: you also have a whole paragraph on morality and late term abortions.) I hate to use the word triggering but as someone who had difficulty preg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 05:29 PM
2	Balancing Reproductive Rights: Sentience, Emotional Connection, and Equality My friend I do not think about “paper abortions” because it’s a fringe idea that will never be mainstream or actually become law. Again, what you are trying to debate me on is a thought experiment. Not reality. You have the right to walk away from a child you created. As does the mother once it’s born. However the state and taxpayers have an interest in making sure the child is reasonably cared for. Which means once the baby is born BOTH parents are on the hook. My response to your paper abortio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 05:15 PM
2	Balancing Reproductive Rights: Sentience, Emotional Connection, and Equality I stated above the only compromise I’ll ever go for. And that is more of a compromise than most women. The country is marching further and further blue. Even if trump wins this election the demographics long term favor blue because of all the liberal women voting and all the unfettered immigration. Also, paper abortions will never ever be on the table anywhere in this country. So that is a theoretical/ thought experiment and a gotcha question not a legit real policy. Actual abortion policy and w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 03:41 AM
2	Balancing Reproductive Rights: Sentience, Emotional Connection, and Equality Yes. That is how I would describe your post. It’s like if I stated womansplaing your prostate or dick problems and issues. You stated a lot of stuff you think about pregnancy. Here is another pregnancy fact - the leading cause of death in pregnancy next to suicide is HOMICIDE by their intimate partner. 20%. You can google it. Some pregnancies go well. But there is almost no other time in a woman’s life where she will have a higher risk of death, injury, long lasting medical issues such as incont…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 03:34 AM
0	Q4W: Do you find your male partner attractive? There are not that many women on OLD and it’s an algorithm. You should not use OLD as an actual metric for real life. I	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 03:20 AM
4	Q4W: Do you find your male partner attractive? Your confusion is that we are not all attracted to the same exact 10-20% of men. While yes, there are archetypes that garner a lot of consensus on hotness (ie jason mamoa in his GoT years) the swath of men that are found attractive by at least some women is quite a bit wider than 10-20% but probably much narrower than what women men would consider attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 03:19 AM
2	Q4W: Do you find your male partner attractive? Yes. 17 years married today. Hes a snack. He was lean and good looking when I met him (he was a marathoner) now he lifts weights and is a silver fox. We have a great regular sex life. I stay fit too and also look good for my age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 03:14 AM
1	Balancing Reproductive Rights: Sentience, Emotional Connection, and Equality Abortion should be allowed until fetal viability period. The baby is a life form, but a potential life form incapable of living on its own. You can whinge on for paragraphs and wax poetic about how pregnancy isn’t a big deal now days. Fuck off with that. I’ve been pregnant and so have most of my cohorts. It is the most dangerous thing a woman can go through physically and emotionally. There is no male equivalent that even comes close. The only argument I’m willing to compromise on is the age we …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 03:57 PM
1	Difference Between Stated And Revealed Preference First off, the writing in fifty shades was shit. I quit after about 50 pages. Second, women read romance and erotica as escapist fantasy. Just like men watch mostly hot young vapid women in porn Most of the men in these books do adhere to a masculine stereotype. Doesn’t mean that’s who you exclusively want/need to date/fuck/marry. It’s fantasy. And I’d say reading fantasy has a lot less actual real world harms than exploitative porn industry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 04:46 PM
1	Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friends And how, pray tell, are you privy to the “locker room talk” of women? Do you set up recording devices? Are you trans? I’m so confused how you would so expertly know this for fact. I can say without hesitation that never in my life on this planet have I had friends, acquaintances, or family talk about their sexual history like this. Have had a few salty coworkers that might throw out an off color joke or say a dude wasn’t all that or what some of their preferences are. My dude, you need to get of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 10:45 PM
2	I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desires You need to know that women are individuals. Some make bad decisions and keep making bad decisions because they don’t know better. Often unstable family situation growing up or BPD. There are many many women who do not make bad decisions or learn from their mistakes. The next step in your realization that you shouldn’t infantilize or that you don’t automatically need to empathize with an individual is that all women are human beings. There is a lot of behavior in both sexes that centers around b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 06:35 PM
2	I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desires Thank you! I’m very glad you do not infantilize women. Hopefully that means you understand we have agency, we have disparate wants and desires as we get older. We make mistakes. Some of us grow and change after mistakes and some don’t. We are individual humans that don’t want your infantilization.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 03:58 PM
1	I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desires Of course you are. You are responsible at 18. I don’t know how old you are but an individual generally undergoes a lot of growth and development in their twenties. One learns about what they want to do for a career, what their priorities are in life, what they really want in a mate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 03:56 PM
2	I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desires Uhhh you do not know many women then. Most women are NOT attracted to violent men. You missed the whole point. Women’s behaviors and desires exist on a spectrum. Just like men’s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 03:43 PM
-1	I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desires All human behaviors exist on a bell curve. The majority of women in the middle of the bell are drawn to confidence, looks, sociability, and ambition. There are evolutionary bio reasons for this. A subset of women, probably a standard deviation or to away from average, will like hypermasculine men who have those traits plus the dark triad stuff. These women also often have BPD or other mental issues/back backgrounds A subset of women in the other end of the bell curve will really be drawn to more…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 07:05 PM
3	I think the number 1 cause of the loneliness epidemic in America is obesity or the health/fitness crisis Absolutely agree. When I weighed 249lbs as a 5’1f, i have very little luck with men. I was an introvert. I never ever got approached by men in a nice way. Only to be used for sex. Never relationship material with the exception of one guy and even tho he treated me well and I think I was his side chick. He never brought me around to his house or family. Once I realized I had to do something to better myself besides just school (I was in grad school at the time), I dedicated myself to losing weigh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 05:18 PM
0	In democracies, there are no laws that discriminate against women, only laws that discriminate against men Uhhhh abortion just got banned in a lot of states. I’d say that trumps anything you have to say. In some places we do not have the right to reproductive autonomy	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 07:34 PM
0	Women resent men by default, so they shouldn't act so shocked about men having negative views on them too. lol sure, the majority of men will not hurt us. But most of the rapes, serious physical abuse, and murder against women are perpetrated by men. THAT is a statistical fact. So of course we are going to be cautious around men. That is basic safety and if you had/have a daughter you will or should teach her to be wary of men. To be mindful of her environment, to carry pepper spray or CC. Most males can easily overpower us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 05:45 PM
3	Women resent men by default, so they shouldn't act so shocked about men having negative views on them too. Bro historically women had no choice in life! It’s laughable when you say we use you as human shields. What were we being shielded from? Other fucking men that start rapey wars! For all of recorded history except the last 50 years, women have been utterly controlled by men and in a lot of places still are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 05:39 PM
–	Dating is hardest for straight men Pregnancy, birthing, and rearing children is expensive. To our bodies, our mental health etc. living with someone who does not add value (man or woman) to one’s life is not in an individuals best interest. Yes women have equal opportunity now. But reproduction, childcare, home care is still not equal and likely will never be equal. We (women) are hard wired to look for a mate that will be a help, not a hindrance or another child we have to take care of. So yes, men need to bring enough to the ta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 05:14 PM
3	Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor. You are living under a rock. There is a huge percentage of women, especially professionals that are the “breadwinners” or make more than their spouse. The ick doesn’t come from men who make less than us. The ick comes from hobosexuals, men who insist on “traditional roles” while they themselves fail to provide, from men who prefer video games to house chores and child care, and men with no career ambition. Talk about ick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 04:22 PM
6	Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor. Agree that the family structure with two parents is best. Disagree that there has to be any sort of “traditional” gender roles. Ask all the female drs, lawyers, and veterinarians like me who are breadwinners or at least similar income to our spouse. The answer is not to shove women back into the kitchen. Fuck that shit. The answer is to bring back excellent working class jobs, have awesome child care and education options, heath care, great parental leave and advocate for men (and women) to step…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 01:57 AM
–	Do you at least recognize being told you're dangerous just because you're a man is wrong? What the hell does being egalitarian in terms of relationships have to do with teaching my daughter that any male could be a risk?? I’m not teaching her that all males ARE a risk. Just that any could be. My daughter is 5’1, 110 lbs. ALL MALES could be a risk to her. The good ones will understand that women need to be cautious. And she knows what a real egalitarian man is because her father is one. Edit to add: she absolutely knows there are good men and is surrounded by examples of them. Includi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 12:18 AM
–	Do you at least recognize being told you're dangerous just because you're a man is wrong? You can whinge on about all this but myself and my husband are still teaching our 16 year old charismatic daughter to be absolutely vigilant of all men. I did self defense training with her (yes I know, limited value) and next month we start gun training. When she goes off to college it will be armed with the knowledge that any male, especially in certain circumstances (often involving alcohol or being alone) is a potential risk. Once she is off campus she will also be physically armed with what…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/24 04:46 PM
–	CMV: A man isn't obligated to step in and save a woman from being mugged or assaulted. Yup. Exactly. This guy is making up scenarios in his head as a way to punish women. If and when he ever needs the help of a stranger maybe he will realize that helping others is human and social. If he wants to be anti social that’s his choice. How people perceive him and his attitude is OUR choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/24 04:42 PM
–	CMV: A man isn't obligated to step in and save a woman from being mugged or assaulted. No one is obligated to step in in a dangerous situation. Like others said, it’s common decency to at least call the police. Some folks, yes, often or mostly men, have an innate instinct to protect those smaller than them - children, women, animals. If you don’t have that instinct that’s fine. I am so thankful for all the men (and women) who are first responders or just have that drive to help others. These are the folks that can make excellent spouses and parents. Edit to add: we as a society re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/24 03:56 PM
4	If women are allowed to divorce their husbands for wanting paternity test, then this guy is justified in leaving his wife for wanting to look at his phone Both cases are justified in leaving especially if there was no hint of infidelity. Especially if there was no prior communication/agreement about accessing each others phones or paternity testing. It comes down to trust. Once someone violates the trust boundary without just cause the relationship is cooked	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/24 04:05 PM
–	Millenial/GenX advice on dating can be completely disregarded by the new generation bro...college is 54% women on average and at some campuses approaches 60%. You only experience a small microcosm and you are self defeating with that mindset. If you think college has been cute couples holding hands all paired up for the past 40 years...uh sorry, college has always had hot girls with hot guys, hook ups, nerdy folks introverts eschewing the social scene, parties etc. The main thing that has changed is everyones access to social media....you see your woes amplified. And even if ga…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 10:37 PM
4	The false idea that your spouse has to be your "best friend" makes many people prioritize finding an "interesting" spouse over other potentially good qualities and this likely leads to many broken marriages I disagree. I think for long term compatibility, one should be very close to their SO, their SO should be Their Person. Their closest ally and confidant. You could label this a best friend or whatever. This does NOT mean you necessarily have similar interests or similar personality. Generally the similarities are in ideas of household management, financial goals, child rearing goals, religious and political compatibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 03:59 PM
1	CMV: (long) You'd see less guys flocking to the ''manosphere'' if people were honest about the unfairness of dating. This is a lot of whinging and broad generalization of what “people think” without any evidence. The majority of people are not stupid. The majority of people understand that we are very sexually dimorphic and as such, have different mating strategies, desires etc at the population and the individual level. The majority of people understand that we live under capitalism and a free society that has winners and losers and that when women are actually free individuals, we make choices that may not b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 03:35 PM
–	In your opinion how do we bring the sexes back together? Heh every plumber, tradesman, lawyer etc I know is doing just fine with women. The ones that are really getting weeded out are the NEETs. If a dude makes over 60-70k and is a decent human being, he can get a woman. She may not be his top choice, maybe she’s an immigrant, maybe she’s homely… but he could still get one. And if a dude will not put in the basic effort to succeed in life and love … his genes should not move forward. I would also say, that the way the safety net is now, it incentivize…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/24 06:31 PM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD lol. You want a vacant doll not a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 08:42 PM
5	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? Hes not playing with the kids, he's not helping get the laundry done, he's not taking some time to interact with me to maintain a great relationship...he's not doing anything productive if he's playing more than an hour a day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 08:08 PM
1	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? Im a woman. LOVE video games, played a lot as a teen and even play as an adult in my 40s. (average 2-10 hours a week. I even beat Elden ring) I don't mind a guy who enjoys a bit of gaming. BUT life, kids, house, work, social interaction must take priority. If a guy (or gal) is playing hours a day all week long...thats just stupid and a waste of time. If we are talking 5-10 hours a week that is fine. Real gamers that stream and spend all day on games are losers for the most part. Life, partnershi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 08:06 PM
11	How come introverted men seem less attractive to women than extroverted men? Introverted males generally lack the qualities that are initially associated with instant attraction by women. They are probably also not generally noticed by other men, their bosses etc. because beige is bland and boring. The more introverted and apparently antisocial a dude is, the less likely the majority of women or other humans will be interested in engaging him. The good news is that introverts CAN learn social skills that can make them more interesting. It can be changed unlike other immu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 02:17 AM
12	The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material women Right on. My husband of nearly 18 years vastly prefers a spicy, intelligent woman on his level. We are a power team.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/24 06:52 AM
28	The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material women I literally know zero submissive/super agreeable married women. Even my friends that are SAHMs are NOT submissive or agreeable. And I know plenty of married women. The other factors you state are pretty universal for desirable traits in a male or female.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/24 06:45 AM
1	The overwhelming majority of people bitching about or even paying attention to “age gap” relationships are undesirable women and virtue signaling men Yea, they don’t say that in real life. They just think in their head - “ew gross” if it’s a huge gap, esp an old person with a really young g person. Or they think “she/he is just with them for the money”	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 11:20 AM
1	Redditors really live in a bubble, that's why I would take people's takes here with a grain of salt 100%. Also, those of us with views contrary to Reddit mods get instantly banned for espousing skepticism of certain things. I know a lot of mens subs have been banned and men get banned unfairly for saying things against the narrative. But believe me, it happens to GCs like me. For example, try saying something logical about the Olympic boxing controversy is most subs (including 2X!) and you are done for. Even just posting this would will prob get me banned from some places if they look at my po…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/24 11:08 AM
0	There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effort Yup. Totally agree. I was fat as a kid and got up to 250 lbs in my twenties. I was a nerdy introvert. Never had interest from men for a relationship, only a very few would be friends. My sexual experiences were mostly negative. Only one or two guys would be kinda FWB but never saw me as more. I had only one actual boyfriend and I’m pretty sure he had a baby mamma that he was still with and I was the side chick. Once I put work into myself and dropped weight, got fit, finished school, learned how…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/24 07:50 AM
0	There will aways be a battle between the sexes Where did I ever say men and women are exactly equal?? Due to biology, we can never truly be equal in a few metrics. That doesn’t mean we don’t deserve equality under the law with regard to the vas vast majority of situations. Men will always, on average, be taller and stronger than us Men will always have different reproductive organs and hormones. Men will never carry young. Men and women, on average, have different interests. Men on average are more aggressive than women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/24 08:14 PM
4	There will aways be a battle between the sexes There will always be a battle between sexes because we are a highly sexually dimorphic species with reproductive prerogatives that are organized along two vastly different principles that have been reproduced over time, across species and is fundamental to sexual reproduction: male attention and sperm is cheap and abundant. Ova, bearing young and caring for young is hugely costly. Evolution is driven by this “red Queen” competition between the sexes. Women attempt to mate with the best male poss…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 05:03 PM
2	Men need to normalize makeup and cosmetics to better compete like women do Sure. A little cover up of blemishes or for accents are fine and enhancing. I work in a field where it’s fine to be make up free. I grew up in a make up free household and myself and my daughter are 95% make up free. People are free to appear how they want, but they cannot control how others perceive them. For example, I’m not a fan of heavy make up and every time I see a woman heavily made up esp w lip injections, eye lashes etc I think what a waste of time and money and it doesn’t look good. A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 12:17 AM
2	What Educational Reforms Would You Advocate for to Address Any Pill-Related Concerns/Problems? You want solutions to the current state of gender affairs and low birth rates and men falling behind…or we can keep going on how we are going. Let big tech and elites keep on keeping on with shit food, porn, video games, sending good jobs overseas, forever wars, schools/colleges that now strongly favor females. It’s all good to people like me (top 10% income earner) who knows how to get my kids, including my boy ahead in this system.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 12:12 AM
4	What Educational Reforms Would You Advocate for to Address Any Pill-Related Concerns/Problems? 1) red shirt most boys (hold them back a year early in their education to allow more emotional and social development). Make school more fun/active and engaging for kids. More hands on. These are pointed out by Richard reeves 2) a nationwide year of mandatory service for all 18/19 year olds. Joining the military would count. Could maybe be done concurrently with college. Service should be wide ranging from community programs to wild fire fighting. Should be mixed sex 3) lock down all porn. As cl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/24 08:41 PM
–	Men's addiction and dependence on porn is because of women Bruv. You can yank it with your hand and ur imagination. No man NEEDs porn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/24 06:46 PM
5	Do you believe circumcision is harming males? It should be banned unless medically necessary. All humans deserve the right to an intact body free of unnecessary surgery (and hormones) While probably not as harmful as FGM, it is still genital mutilation. I had to put my foot down to my husband and extended family to say my son gets to be intact until he is 18. At which point if he wants to be cut, I’ll pay for the best urologist he can find.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 04:30 PM
1	Most heterosexual women are homoromantic. just like heterosexual men will never understand what heterosexual women have to deal with when dating and marrying men. you may feel this way and I will not discount your personal feelings but most women put equal if not more effort into LTRs and marriage. It is probably inverse: men have to do a lot of work up front to secure a relationship and then slack off often, but women on the back end do a lot of work, probably the majority, to maintain the relationship, care for the children and house.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 07:59 PM
2	Most heterosexual women are homoromantic. Since apparently in your world women are just receivers, me thinks you should give dick a try since men are paragons of romance, support and intimacy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 04:52 PM
1	How I see this all playing out if sexuality isn’t suppressed. Ok? And? Who cares if a few men have few extra women?? Is that our problem? Sounds like something you should take up with those guys who have the audacity to date/fuck/plate multiple women. Most normie women and men are not going though life like this	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 02:29 AM
0	How I see this all playing out if sexuality isn’t suppressed. OMG you are hilarious. I’d love to know how many men you think actually have even TWO girlfriends, let alone 20. You hella hella made me bust out laughing right now. There are vanishingly few men that have a stable of girlfriends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 09:24 PM
2	Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable. You miss the point. These types of guys make it seem they are interested in you. They make vague promises. If they do not act on those promises in a manner that leads to committed marriage then you can see they really are not into you. Ie - asking to meet the family, engaging in deep emotional conversations, planning and executing a future together, proposing and setting a date. ACTIONS. All the other mouth noises these men make are just enough to string the gal along.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 09:22 PM
2	Men who were undesirable in their youth but managed to become succesful and confident and desirable later on in their life are absolutely entitled to go through a "hoe phase" We live in a free country. Of course he can do that as long as he has willing partners and isn’t a lying douche bag. That’s the great thing about freedom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 06:29 PM
5	How I see this all playing out if sexuality isn’t suppressed. Bro harems are not common. Men cheating on the women is not a harem. It’s men being shitty. Most men are probably not cheaters and most men are not desirable enough to have multiple women in a harem. Sure a few top tier will be like Elon Musk or Nick Cannon. And no it’s not my idea to kill a bunch of men in war. Women don’t dictate wars. I say it as a historical fact. And I absolutely know that if shit hits the fan in an apocalyptic sense, women are back to being a resource and chattel. Because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 06:25 PM
6	How I see this all playing out if sexuality isn’t suppressed. lol. Do you really see a lot of harems around in western countries? Most women are in relationships with men of similar looks and socioeconomic background. You need to go to a public beach, Walmart, anywhere. Perhaps we will get more undesirable men at the bottom Just like any social mammalian group. But big corps fixed that problem with porn, shitty food and video games. Maybe the elites will throw in a good war the young men have to fight in to cull the herd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 05:30 PM
6	Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable. Men who do this are pieces of shit. Our reproductive window is narrow. BUT women should know the game by now and live by the “He’s Just Not Into You” rule. If the relationships doesn’t progress AT HIS insistence, within a 12-24 month period we just need to move the fuck on and realize he’s never going to be ready. Actions>>>words	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 05:00 PM
0	Do you think that men actually want to have children? Totally not true. A decent portion of men want kids and enjoy having them. That % is probably less than women but every single male I know that has kids loves them dearly and are pretty involved in their lives esp compared to 30-40 years ago. My husband at various times in our lives has been the primary care giver. He has a very deep relationship with our kids (now teens)	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 08:22 PM
–	Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men? Ummm. Because we don’t CARE. Unless we are interested in you specifically. We. Do. Not. Care. Be single and happy. Be in an LTR and be happy. Be in a situationship. If you want make male singleness to be a thing that’s for your side to promote.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 03:29 PM
1	Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices? Thanks! And no - my industry has shifted to majority female about the time I finished grad school. But prior to the mid 90s it was very sexist. I encountered a few old doctors in my field that said and did some pretty fucked up sexist shit - but they were dinosaurs at the time and now they are gone from my industry. A lot of medical fields are shifting majority female. It’s gendered so much because given free choice, many many women choose care giving and medical fields. Some of which are lucrat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 03:20 PM
2	Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices? I’m a professional woman. I would agree that statistics like this are useless if you do not control for hours worked, comparing like fields to like fields. I do not think there is much of a real wage gap. Some of that is by choice and some of that is kinda forced upon us because we are the ones that have to bear young and do the majority of child care, esp when the kids are young. I find it interesting how a lot of MRAs and manosphere folks harp on the low birth rate. Fuck yes the birth rate is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 01:27 AM
1	What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"? One last thought for you- most cultures over time lean currently towards monogamy which gives lower and mid status men the best chance at finding a mate. This is about as equal as we can get. Anything else would be 1) expecting women to reprogram themselves like 1984 style to desire mates that on a fundamental level, they are not interested in or 2) having a communist or fundamentalist society that distributes women as a resource so that all males have an “equal” value woman	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 11:21 PM
3	What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"? You are missing the point. The reproductive strategies are pretty set in stone. It will take 10s of thousands of years to change them. It would be exceptionally unlikely that the fundamental strategies would change. IE unless forced, female animals will generally mate with the best they can get. Male animals will do whatever they can to get their genes into the next gen. I can see no near future in which female animals or humans lust for low status or in some cases, even equal status males. I CA…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 10:53 PM
2	What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"? I could make an argument that culture is a form of evolution and culture evolves. Culture is an outward display of evolution of social species. Everything about our culture supports the biologic underpinnings of reproductive strategy. different cultures support/encourage different reproductive strategies. Think Afghanistan (forced marriage, marital rape etc), polygamist cultures in Utah and Africa, or culturally enforced monogamist societies. Culture adapted around strategies that have been pres…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 10:21 PM
5	Why don't women with low-esteem ever go for unattractive men? If she is an interesting person, she treats you well and she allows you to stick your dick in her and even makes you a baby… absolutely not! If she helps to get your genes into the next generation that’s the biggest, purest (from an evolutionary standpoint) value any woman could provide a male regardless of her outward appearance. It’s a somewhat sexist trope (but with an evolutionary underpinning) but there is a reason for the “women and children first” mentality. It’s because of the inherent v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 10:04 PM
2	What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"? The statement about sperm and male attention being cheap is a distillation of evolutionary biology and why there are large differences, on average, between male and female people and animals, esp mammals and birds. This is fundamental reproductive strategy. What is interesting about humans is that both male and female people can deploy several mating strategies to maximize reproductive benefit. Those strategies that result in better, more fit offspring are conserved over time. It is theorized th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 09:39 PM
22	Why don't women with low-esteem ever go for unattractive men? Reverse your example. Why do incels and “low value” men still want women above their level? Humans covet and desire pretty things. Also, no women want “low value” men. It’s not how we are wired evolutionarily. Generally, no women is truly “low value” to men because she can provide sex and potentially bear your offspring. This is inherently valuable. (This is a very general statement because a man can be ugly and still bring value depending on what they can bring to the table)	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 05:32 PM
1	What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"? Silly response. Human beings are strongly sexually dimorphic. We will never be exactly equal in some metrics. It’s not biologically possible. Men will never bear children. Women will never, on average, be stronger than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 05:21 PM
7	What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"? Correction. Men like to fuck women, lots of women, a wide variety of women while most women do not want to fuck the vast vast majority of men. We operate on different systems that are often antagonistic due to the principal “sperm and male attention is very cheap, eggs and bearing young are not”	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 07:26 PM
2	What are PPD’s thoughts on Richard Reeves’ comment that childless and wifeless men comparatively “do terribly”? Listened to him on several podcasts. Haven’t read the book. I agree strongly with all the points I’ve heard him talk about. Especially re boys and men falling behind in an education system that works better for girls and women. I love his reasonable approach to the problems of men. He doesn’t blame women. He is happy for women’s success. His policy ideas are thoughtful. I feel like, unfortunately, no one is listening.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 03:09 AM
2	What are PPD’s thoughts on Richard Reeves’ comment that childless and wifeless men comparatively “do terribly”? Listened to him on several podcasts. Haven’t read the book. I agree strongly with all the points I’ve heard him talk about. Especially re boys and men falling behind in an education system that works better for girls and women. I love his reasonable approach to the problems of men. He doesn’t blame women. He is happy for women’s success. His policy ideas are thoughtful. I feel like, unfortunately, no one is listening.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 03:09 AM
9	Women of PPD. If you are in a happy LTR, did your "fall in love at first sight" or did you fall in love over time? If so, what made that happen? Also, did any of you initially dislike / hate your husband / BF only to fall enough with him later? If so, how did it happen? Absolutely infatuation within minutes. Head over heels in love within two weeks. Both of us were 29 at thw time we met. Married almost 18 years now. He was and is the best dude in all measurable metrics. I’m glad I held out for “the One” and didn’t settle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/24 02:45 AM
–	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. 64% of women support abortion rights. All feminists support abortion rights. If feminists have the power attributed to them, we would have controlled the levers of power and this decision would have never happened. Of course there are women who believe differently than the majority of us. Because indoctrination with religion and conservative ideology is absolutely a thing. My point is that feminists as outlined in the OP have very little true power.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/24 06:46 PM
3	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. I use academia as a proxy for all of education. I would say that women hold a lot of power now in most levels of education. The actual deans and department heads of various colleges may still lean male, but I would say as a whole, the education industrial complex favors women now. Esp k-12. Males are falling behind in a lot of educational areas to the detriment of all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 06:06 PM
-1	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. And ummm who started this (or any) war? It was not women. It’s men who throw each others lives away	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:27 PM
2	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Examples please? Especially of “revenge” There isn’t really a cohesive feminist movement anymore. Tik tok vids and bad apples do not constitute a movement. Men still hold all the levers of power with the exception of academia. More men in leadership positions in government, media, corporations, tech/media, and financial institutions… so where exactly are the women exerting their vengeful feminism? Ffs, we just had roe v wade overturned. If women really had power that would have never happened.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 05:02 PM
2	Question For Women, Which Of These Men Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With? lol. I choose none of those and will live my life with pets if that’s what’s on offer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/24 08:22 PM
2	The most toxic form of femininity is women’s refusal to acknowledge or call out poor behavior from their own gender What do you actually base this on? Your own personal observations? Because I can tell you that literally none of that is true in the vast majority of cases. Women give each other tons of feedback on the mate choices of their friends. Lol it’s often the friends and family that help a gal see reason to ditch a loser. Men are just as emotional and influenced by their peers. Ffs look at all the dudes on this sub emoting their feels about women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 01:42 AM
–	Vanity Fair, Far From The Madding Crowd, Emma & Little Women, 4 novels written by women nonetheless, where the 'Beta Billy got the girl' What does this imply? You do realize that women consume a vast amount of erotica and romance novels. I partake in this genera about 20% of my reading. And I can certainly tell you that in every single one, the chick ends up with a hottie. A bad boy she ends up taming down. I don’t think I’ve ever read a romance/erotica written in the last 30 years where the woman ended up with the low key “beta”. That’s so not hot. How about we make some judgements off of Fifty Shades of Grey (total garbage), Twilight (garbage), and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 06:04 PM
1	The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all. You do realize that if Joe is at a liberal arts college, it will be 60% women? If he is upper middle class and on a decent career path and average looks he’s is absolutely not overall average. Of course Joe can have whatever preferences he wants. Most college guys don’t want a gf with kids or is obese. This is a bad example to use in your hypothetical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 08:36 PM
8	Women making the first move would solve a lot of the issues with modern dating. If by programming you mean millions of years of evolution that direct us to be choosy then you are correct. This is how most mammalian reproduction occurs. The males pursue the females.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 06:25 PM
8	Women making the first move would solve a lot of the issues with modern dating. Honestly I think a woman acting in this more masculine role you propose is going to be a turn off to a lot of men. Especially men who have had a bit of success in dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 06:22 PM
4	Women making the first move would solve a lot of the issues with modern dating. This	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/24 06:19 PM
1	It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful. I wish I knew the answers. I’d love to see more social cohesion and support around family creation and better working class jobs so that men can be providers if they choose. I also think the education system is profoundly failing men and boys right now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/24 10:49 PM
6	It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful. It’s not individual men’s fault dating is awful however I would point out 1) men created social media and dating apps as a way to make money off of other men primarily 2) “feminism” is a direct response to a millennia of male oppression of female people. Feminism isn’t really even a coherent movement anymore. Sure there are some “feminists” organizations. But they are not even that powerful. 3) atomization is absolutely a thing and I believe caused in big ways by capitalism and elite exploitatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/24 08:55 PM
2	What US women want is a fantasy That sounds like communist/socialist propaganda. Brain washing. You will do this for your family and love it. You do not value half the population as individuals free to make their own choices. Women are human beings who deserve as much autonomy as you do. I thank my lucky stars I’m in this country and not others populated by men like you who would force me to marry and reproduce after being subjected to brainwashing my whole life. Fucking disgusting man. Somehow I manage to love my family, my h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/24 04:28 AM
3	What US women want is a fantasy Oh yea… Being coerced into a relationship with someone you don’t actually want is soooo great. Women are no longer communal property, their fathers property or their husbands property. The “reason” this was and is done is to control women’s sexuality and labor and, historically, to confirm paternity. I just cannot even fathom being put into a marriage where I was expected to fuck a guy and bear kids against my will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 06:05 PM
11	Question for attractive women; What could an average or below average looking man do for you to genuinely desire him? For some women who are interested in a sugar baby/ transactional relationship you can have money. That’s about it. Most regular attractive women (and men) who make a middle class life or less are going to mate within their social class and similar looks. I do on occasion see some attractive women w mid (in appearance) men. Once I meet these men they inevitably are either very funny/social or are professionals like dentists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 04:50 PM
1	95% women will not do anything for you, and why austistic men fail. Redpill and Bluepill are wrong But wait- you just said woman offer nothing?? Sex, companionship and validation are like amazingly huge advantages of being romantically with another person. Add to that the ability to bear a man’s young and I really have no idea what the fuck you are going on about. I’m so confused by your post lol the mental gymnastics are 10/10. Either women offer nothing in which case men are absolute morons for being with a leech for the off chance of bad sex or women offer enough benefits that men willingl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 04:37 PM
7	Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as default When I asked my then boyfriend (now husband of almost 17 years) where he learned how to dress and have such hygiene/grooming he said from queer eye for the straight guy. I have thanked those dudes every day of my life lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 04:35 AM
4	95% women will not do anything for you, and why austistic men fail. Redpill and Bluepill are wrong I’d hazard a guess that if you polled all the men in current relationships - which is most men, they would say their significant other does stuff for them. Why would they be in a relationship at all if the women literally did nothing for them?? Are 80% of men that stupid? seriously? For what reason would someone be in a relationship with anyone if that person didn’t reciprocate on some level?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 08:16 PM
1	Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him. Yes. Absolutely. I did exactly that. Lost over 100lbs. Became a gym rat. Learned to dress and communicate better. Got some hobbies besides reading and gaming. Leveled myself up massively and really improved my dating pool until I met the best ever guy by all metrics and we have been together 18 years. Married almost 17. It’s literally the reason I’m on this sub. I have a background in sociobiology and was fascinated by my own dating behavior esp once I improved myself and the quality men I dated…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 08:08 PM
9	95% women will not do anything for you, and why austistic men fail. Redpill and Bluepill are wrong I’m sorry that you and your cohort have trouble finding the type of women you think are your due/match. When you view women as a monolith it will be harder for you to form real relationships. I promise you that there are many many women who value their relationships and do just as much for their partner if not more: emotional work, managing social relationships, providing a dual income, often taking more of the house work and childcare, risking her life and health to bear children etc. I get the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 05:54 PM
-1	Women will defend women no matter what We close the ranks because often we relate either with personal stories or because we know others in similar situations. Women generally feel connected to each other through shared experiences. Men do this as well..dont get me started on all the dudes on here and in general who support d bags like Tate or other manosphere guys. Men also often really around their friends when a dude is dumped/dates a crazy chick or whatever. This is just normal group/social behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 10:20 PM
2	Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago. Correct. And this is mostly a policy issue. Policy is controlled at the state and federal level. Both parties shipped good middle class jobs over seas in the 90s. We don’t have universal health or childcare. There are not enough policies that support marriage and family. Men can’t be providers if they are stuck in low wage jobs. Men pull most of the levers of power in government, in social media, in corporations. It’s not just women’s increased access to more suitors. It’s the absolute breakdown…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 10:33 PM
1	Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago. On this piece you and I agree. The strongest unit for community and country is the family unit. The family unit built of both partners enthusiastic free will. Not coerced, arranged or as a consolation just because. This means that women and men need to be ultra selective in who they choose to build a life with. If that means fewer low status men end up with women, so be it. There is plenty of porn, video games and shitty food to sate this cohort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 06:41 PM
3	Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago. This is a bad thing? Please please all women be more selective. No more baby daddies. No red pillers. No forced birthers. Select ONLY men who bring enough to the table to spend your life with and read children with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 02:55 PM
1	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married Average women (average by your metric) are generally not looking for average men. Evolutionary Biology underpins most behavior. A hundred thousand years of evolution advises our brains to look for above average. Mating with men with better genes, better resources, better EQ, better status would be evolutionarily conserved over time because that behavior would result in the most viable offspring making it to the next gen. So no, most women are not looking for average Joe. Just like a lot of men w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 09:42 PM
1	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married False. On both counts. I have a 13 year old son. The topic at hand was about women. You better believe I am working just as hard with my son to help him become the kind of man a woman would want to be with. I will also be teaching him to stay away from crazy bitches and affirmative consent. He also has no phone or unsupervised internet. I am keeping him as far from RP ideology as possible for as long as possible. Perhaps rather than making assumptions and showing how ignorant you are, you should…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 07:39 PM
1	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married How do you figure? Single women my age date and are part of the culture. I have a few friends and coworkers swimming in the dating pond. Also my daughter is 15. I like to keep tabs on the red pill bullshit so I can give her the skills to keep away from men who belittle women’s experiences, center themselves and their sex drive. She has no cell phone or unsupervised internet access so she has yet to experience the cesspool that is modern datingand red pill culture where choking, spinning plates a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 09:13 PM
0	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married I had the biggest laugh right now. Because as I stated, you sir, are a douche bag and an idiot. A douche bag that doesn’t read my post history or look at what groups I’m subed to. This is so rich. I’m on PPD because of my own leveling up and behavior re men as I matured. How I went from d bags like you to a totally amazing man in every metric. We have been married 16 years, together 18. He’s hot AF, a silver fox now. And my friend, of course some people were raised “right” and entered serial mon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 03:56 PM
1	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married Make sure she knows how to avoid trash men like you who would make such a comment. You, sir, are a douche bag. People of all ages and genders can get into situations where they are taken advantage of in all manner of ways. It’s the growth and learning from experience that can create more mature, stable person in the end. I pray for any women you inflict yourself upon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 09:39 PM
2	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married This is the most fair assessment for your side so far and I think that can apply in a lot of situations. I know a lot of girls who immediately chilled out right after college. Joined the work force and basically stopped going out, got dog or cat, mostly picked better dudes of similar social class in a serial monogamy manner until they married. A good solid 50% had some wild high school and college days.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 03:15 AM
3	Are women "witholding affection from men"? What the fuck are you smoking? Free lunch? You mean all the birthing (with risk of death and long term maiming) raising children, tending home/farm/gathering, attending the man and often his parents, providing healing and passing on knowledge, building community through social networking.. if you think these things are not equally important to the success of the humans species as the labor, warfare, protection etc males provided(ed) you are are woefully ignorant	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 03:04 AM
3	Are women "witholding affection from men"? While I am profoundly thankful that western men a few generations ago finally had the decency to allow women full agency starting about 50 years ago or so, that’s about it for western men in a sweeping broad sense. I am as thankful for the mostly men who do the majority of the building shit and equally as I am thankful to the majority of women who are nurses, teachers, caregivers, social workers etc. I am very thankful on an individual level to so many men I know. So no, I don’t think we owe the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 11:46 PM
0	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married Or perhaps that young man just needed that 10-15 years to mature himself to be the kind of person a woman would want to be with. A man at 30 years of age should not be the same as he was at 15 or 21. Just like a woman would be different over time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 08:35 PM
2	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married Most people mature over time as they experience life. If you think what a person wants at 20 is the same as what they want at 30 or 40 you are a moron. Dudes who want to call having a different taste and needs in a relationship vs what a woman was interested in at 20 “settling” are morons. Is a dude who decides to go for a more low key, motherly, less attractive woman “settling” when his early years he thought he wanted hot and wild?? No, his tastes and needs have matured! Everyone is different.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 08:30 PM
1	Men are simpler to please than women, BUT... Correction. Women do not need to care about what men they are not interested in want. When a woman (or any person) likes and is attracted to another person and wants to be with them, we absolutely care about what they want and put in a ton of effort. And if the effort is reciprocated, especially long term, you will have a great relationship. If at any point there an unbalanced effort in the relationship, it will fall apart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 11:14 PM
6	Men are simpler to please than women, BUT... Very well said!! This is the exact right answer and shows you actually have some experience with real live human beings	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 11:07 PM
1	Men are simpler to please than women, BUT... Can we universally agree to that? I do not agree with that statement. There are very very few absolutes in life. And yes, most relationships, except between parent and child and other direct familial relationships have an element of tit for tat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/24 11:03 PM
2	Elon Musk and Talulah Riley: a case study on female hypergamy lol in other news, water is wet. What rule is broken when a woman marries for security? That’s literally happened for millennia	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/24 03:31 PM
1	Do you think that women are partly responsible for men's insecurities? lol this is so silly. Of course women (and men!) can influence men’s insecurities just like <gasp> men (and other women!) can influence women’s insecurities. Jeezus what an inane question. And re penis size insecurities. YOU all cause this particular insecurity with your porn consumption where every dick is large. (And porn causes genital insecurity in women too!! With all the microlabias)	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 06:24 PM
3	What is emotional labor and how do women do more of it? Probably because emotional labor for men as in your comparison is much more passive - ie not being overly emotional. Women are expected to provide active emotional labor, checking in, listening, providing physical touch, parsing other people’s feelings and then displaying the culturally appropriate empathy women are expected to provide.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 07:42 PM
2	CMV Dating only becomes easier for men in their 30s because women at that age become more desperate. love how you judge half the human population to be of declining value as they age over 30. that is just gross. as HUMANS age, they gain life experience, knowledge, confidence, and economic stability. and btw, the number of saggy, obese, single fathers (who don't don't take care of their kids), tatted up and wrinkled is just as plentiful. and btw, its the women providing most of the "taking care of" lol even financially, women work and provide economic stability, they often bear the brunt of "tak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/24 08:20 PM
–	It isn't immoral to have kids before marriage. It is not immoral to use the benefits that she and her partner have paid into the system for. Supporting parents raising children is absolutely one of the BEST uses of our taxpayer dollars. Much better than shipping it off to Ukraine and Israel Edit to add - supporting children getting healthcare and supporting a parent to stay home during the kids formative years is EXACTLY what I want my taxpayer money to go for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/24 08:10 PM
–	It isn't immoral to have kids before marriage. It’s not a moral argument. Or at least it shouldn’t be. It’s a statistical one. Children in married households do better across the board (as long as there is no abuse). It is sooo stupid that the government penalizes marriage in terms of child care benefits etc. you are making the right choice for your situation. Childcare expenses and costs of raising kids are the reason we stopped at two kids. I wish I could have had one more at least.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/24 08:08 PM
–	Women's attraction based on career and income is weird. As a women who studied evo bio, yes, many women, when possible, use social status markers and ambition and resources as a metric for mating. This is how evolutionary biology has functioned throughout human history. (Except when men rape and force unions against women’s will and best interests) Bearing young is “expensive.” When women choose mates that do not help with the “expense” of bearing and rearing young, historically those children would not make it, being cut from the gene pool. Mating b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 05:01 PM
–	Women's attraction based on career and income is weird. It’s not weird. Womens desire to mate across and up social hierarchies is rooted in evolutionary biology. Bearing and raising young is “expensive” health wise and resource wise. Those women historically that had an opportunity choose well were more evolutionarily fit because their genes made it into the next gen, thus the behavior gets conserved over time. Culture absolutely comes into play but a few hundred years of women having more social agency after being at the whims of male dominance for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 04:47 PM
3	Is it true that if she doesn’t like you, it’s just because you don’t have enough looks, money and/or status? Wow. What a broad misogynistic brush you are using when you state “women aren’t critical thinkers.” I can literally feel the women repelling vibes rolling off you and I’m sure anyone who actually dates you for a while would figure out what contempt you hold. Considering how many women are becoming doctors, lawyers, teachers, nurses and entrepreneurs I hardly think that statement holds true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/24 02:02 AM
2	Is it true that if she doesn’t like you, it’s just because you don’t have enough looks, money and/or status? Those three things might carry a lot of weight in the “plus/ green flag” category but all it takes is one or two deal breakers in the minus category or in the “ick” factor category to overwhelm the 3 things you mentioned. Chemistry and desire are real things. I experienced this first hand in the guy I dated before my husband. On paper and looks wise he was ideal but the conversation didn’t flow, he seemed kinda needy and I didn’t feel the instant chemistry I felt when I met my husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 09:25 PM
1	South Korea is officially taking steps to address its low birth rate. Do you think they’ll be successful? Men will do anything except the thing that would possibly make a difference which is to take care of your fucking kids and house. Esp in Korea where women are expected to work, take care of the kids, take care of the house AND take care of the in laws. Addressing work culture and making childcare and education affordable is a piece. But that means nothing unless the culture at home changes so that women are not expected to do all the caregiving, house care and bring home a paycheck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 09:00 PM
1	Its impossible to be high status and not completely dominate in terms off women. It beats looks, money, and status by a mile. No shit Sherlock. These sorts of folks from either gender have always had the best options. You are talking about such a small segment of the human population. Who cares what these folks do? They end up fucking and marrying eachother. Why worry about the top 0.01% of the population? And who cares if there are some delusional men or women who think they can get with the hottest of hot people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/24 06:41 PM
–	Would you date a broke man? The expectations are much different for a 24 year old vs a 34 year old. You are well positioned to date someone in your age group and social class. If you were 34 it would be totally different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 10:27 PM
2	FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women Easy, my husband deserves the effort. And the effort and his reaction to my effort gives me joy and vice versa.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 07:27 PM
2	FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women Sure that can work for the folks that are interested in being alone most of the time and don’t want kids. Probably a majority of people would like kids and would like having a family to share life with as they age. A lot of marriages don’t work out but many do. Humans have a biologic tendency toward serial monogamy so it’s not weird from an evolutionary standpoint that a lot of couples don’t end up together for 50 years. I know my life is wonderfully enriched by my two kids, my husband and my in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 07:06 PM
3	We often talk here about how successful, high-performing women want educated and successful men, but do most educated and successful men want ambitious women? As someone who has a professional degree, a social circle that mostly includes professionals, and a majority of acquaintances who also have a 4 year degree +, the majority of the males are married to women with similar attainment or at least a 4 year degree. I can think of only two men who married women with no degrees/minimal career goals. And one of those men has gone through 3 women with no career goals and he's saddled with alimony and child support. These power couples are all high income, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 09:51 PM
–	The fact that women well into their late 30s and 40s maintain their inflated egos and high standards, even as their value decreases shows how delusional they truly are Nailed it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/24 05:22 AM
–	The fact that women well into their late 30s and 40s maintain their inflated egos and high standards, even as their value decreases shows how delusional they truly are The question is why are you so triggered by older women doing their own thing when they don’t find a guy that fits with what they want?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/24 05:20 AM
9	Why does society treat women with kid gloves, especially when it comes to relationships? lol. You are not a woman. Brock Turner. And every other sex offending male who gets a slap on the wrist. And men can show their tits in public. Boobs are not the same and penises.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/24 05:07 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. Uhhh…men do this and feel this way too? This is not a gendered issue. I bet there are an equal number of men, if not more, that had mind blowing sex with that crazy ex but end up marrying a more mellow women who would be a better long term partner and mother. Should that women he settles down with leave him if she finds out from one of his friends that he used to wild sex with his ex?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 03:33 PM
1	Do you prefer liberal men versus conservative men? Do you prefer liberal women vs conservative women? Heterodox views are best. Both liberals and conservatives have good and bad ideas. Both parties suck. The hard line is being pro choice/pro reproductive freedom and not too crazy religious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 08:32 PM
4	30 yr old, single women in mediocre jobs, shouldn't expect more than average. Yes. Absolutely above average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 03:47 AM
6	30 yr old, single women in mediocre jobs, shouldn't expect more than average. Gen X here and not true. My gen was the first to have much higher expectations in men and to understand that we could be fully independent w/o them if needed. And I got into a relationship at my expiration date of 29 with an absolute unicorn of a man and we are still married 17 years later. He was and still is a 9/10 in a lot of areas and a 10/10 in the rest! I did better improving myself and having higher standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 03:45 AM
1	Why are people still so hesitant to admit that two-parent households are best for kids and that fathers are important? Of course having a two parent household is best when both parents are happy with each other and engaged in parenting equally (or with a mutually agreed upon distribution of labor.) Studies are clear on this. What is not good for kids is an abusive or absent parent(s). This is one reason women are, rightly, demanding higher standards in their partners. Women do not want an additional man child. Men also vet women for good mothering ability when they are able to. Some women, who by choice become s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 10:52 PM
4	There's just as many low quality Women as Men Agreed. I was a bit bitter as a fat young woman with poor style and communication. Most dudes would ignore me and a few just use me for sex. But I glowed up. Channeled my bitterness into losing weight and improving myself. This helped me tremendously and could work for some (not all) lower quality males.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:51 PM
1	There's just as many low quality Women as Men Agreed. It’s like this all through the animal kingdom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:44 PM
2	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Victim blaming. Lovely. This is exactly why we teach our kids to be fearful of men. Because even what we wear can be triggering to rapists. And we never know who the rapists are until it’s too late. Do we all live in fear of new interactions w men?? No. It depends on the context. It will depend on if we have experienced harassment and assault in the past. How do you get to know a new women w/o her being fearful? Easy. Don’t creep on her. Talk to her like a normal human being. Don’t be pushy. Let…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:40 PM
2	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Huh? Were do you get that? I literally agreed with you that it would be sexual harassment or assault. There should never be unwanted touching. And absolutely men can be sexually harassed and assaulted. I also agree it’s hard to report because of our culture. Also nobody cares about all the rapes that happen in men’s prisons. I am teaching BOTH my kids (male and female) about affirmative consent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:35 PM
1	There's just as many low quality Women as Men That’s a lot of young folks regardless of gender. Especially in our twenties. It’s what young people rarely start planing for retirement or kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:20 PM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Yes. Or harassment at least. No one should be touching anyone unless clear consent is given. And you prove my point exactly. Women are cautious and generally wary of men because we like to be prepared for any eventuality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:18 PM
2	Would you date/marry a man with no job but with income? Sure. As long as he has ambition to do something. Volunteer, create a new business, projects, etc. my husband and I have spent the last 15 years getting into a position to live off our assets and we achieved that about two years ago after selling a business and going into real estate. We both still work tho! Because to not work is boring. And we have kids in jr high and high school so it’s hard to travel. But once they are out of the house we will start traveling more. But probably keep working,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:04 PM
13	There's just as many low quality Women as Men Correct. Lots and lots women are low quality. But because women are women, they will not hurt for sex. They will, however, have trouble finding a high quality man to commit to an LTR	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 12:51 AM
6	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? lol. In the comments OP says he owns and carries guns. Why would he do that if men are not predators capable of violence and crime? Maybe he’s worried about roving gangs of criminal women breaking into his home. He also states groping is not assault. Fucking hell. And he wonders why women don’t trust men. Reading OPs responses confirms my caution around men and all the caution I’m teaching my teenage daughter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 09:46 PM
5	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? No women I have ever met thinks all men are predators. But most violence and sexual violence, coercion and harassment against women is perpetuated by men. Most of us have either experienced directly at least once or have a friend or family member that has experienced this. So smart women are aware and are cautious. Love how on one hand men spout off like OP and on the other hand when a woman is assaulted, it’s “what was she wearing, what was she doing, why did she put herself in that situation, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 09:29 PM
2	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Going out with friends and/or family is different than dating. Totally different dynamics. That being said, once I became a professional at 27 and was making really good money, more than friends/family, I absolutely paid (and still do) when I ask them to dinner or events! It feels great to have a good conversation/meal/movie etc , they start getting their wallets out and I’m like “nah I got this!” I’m taking my mom to Hawaii next week and am paying for everything except her flight. I always pay …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 06:38 PM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Cool. You can roll like that. That’s a strategy that works for you and you feel is fair. It can work for women who never want to feel obligated to the person who paid for the food. For a lot of us, it is a huge fucking turn off and red flag if someone asks us out and then once we get to the date is line oh let’s split the bill. The asker should always offer to pay. Remember that individuals will employ different strategies based on personal experience and cultural norms. But there are generaliti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 05:50 PM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. lol. Just reread my other comments. And some of my past comments. I was making 6 figures when I started dating my husband. I was not trying to extract resources. I was trying to find someone actually interested in me and someone who would be a good father and someone who I would enjoy being with my whole life. And if you think a woman using various vetting strategies makes us selfish or undesirable that’s great. Dont try date us. I actually made about 20% more than my hubs the first 5 years of o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 05:41 PM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. It’s a natural assumption that would be correct based on odds most of the time. And women are absolutely free to use this strategy too. The low commitment, test the waters, make sure he doesn’t think I owe him anything because he paid approach. I think you fail to realize mating and dating are dynamic and will vary on an individual basis based on personal experience. But when you look broadly at sexual dynamics and mating in any species and especially social humans, there will be general pattern…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 05:28 PM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Sure. You can roll that way. If it works for you great! That’s a valid vetting strategy you can employ as a male. Some women prefer that on a first date. But many don’t and many, will view being asked out and then asked to split the bill as a huge turn off, because that is part of HER vetting strategy. I would suggest this should be decided before the date if YOU ask her out. Because it’s a fairly common tradition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 01:28 AM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. That’s great. It saves us time too. If you are not willing to show investment from the get go there will likely be no get go. Now if she up front says she wants her own bill or offers to split then go with the flow but if you asked HER out and then are like yea I want a separate check…lol Personally I think the person that does the asking should be offering to pay, even if the date is a bust. What you call a shit test is a great filter for investment. Women are biologically wired to look for inv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 11:50 PM
1	50/50 relationship are one sided benefiting only men Ok. So PPD gal. My points still stand	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 12:10 AM
1	50/50 relationship are one sided benefiting only men Soooo you are saying every woman that is with an unattractive man doesn’t get her sexual or romantic needs met? I see unattractive dudes with chicks all the time. Go to Walmart. Go to the beach. Go to Las Vegas. Sooo many unattractive people. All these gals are what? Just with the dude for no reasons? Just for financial support? (If they are in Walmart, bro ain’t rich) You PPD guys are really good at making sweeping generalizations that can easily be disproven by just observing humans out in the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/24 09:58 PM
0	"Every woman is unique in their taste in men" no they aren't lol. My point is that my hubs is on the very upper bound of what I like. Any hight more than 4-5 inches was totally acceptable when I was in the dating game.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/24 12:26 AM
2	Women constantly use how “dangerous” and high risk dating is for them as an excuse for their pickiness but then consistently select and return to abusive low lifes No. Reread my comment. Some of us expected MORE after being burned vs settling/lowering expectations. I did NOT lower expectations. I leveled myself up substantially by losing weight and becoming a better person and dialed up my expectations and requirements until I got a very very high quality dude that I am still happily married to after almost 17 years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/24 11:34 PM
7	Women constantly use how “dangerous” and high risk dating is for them as an excuse for their pickiness but then consistently select and return to abusive low lifes Perhaps to you, lying and coercion do not count as abuse. But to us, that is a low key form of emotional abuse. Not quite the same as physical abuse but it is nasty and also ends up messing with us emotionally which leads some of us to drop out of the dating marking and/or results in a lot of us being way more picky. It did for me. Sure some women are gluttons for punishment and never learn how to weed out the assholes. But the majority of women ultimately do not end up in abusive relationships.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/24 12:53 AM
22	Women constantly use how “dangerous” and high risk dating is for them as an excuse for their pickiness but then consistently select and return to abusive low lifes None taken. You are absolutely correct. The answer as a parent is to make sure our daughters are very picky in multiple parameters. It’s also our jobs as mothers to do our best to get into relationships with the kind of men that model egalitarian principles. 100% the gals that get into abusive relationships either had a shitty upbringing or started a relationship with a sociopathic dude who is good at masking for the honeymoon phase of the relationship Edit to add: also coming from a low socioec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/24 12:41 AM
3	"Every woman is unique in their taste in men" no they aren't This screed gave me a big chuckle on my way to poison the well at my next orgy in my consequence free life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/24 10:07 PM
7	"Every woman is unique in their taste in men" no they aren't Bud I’m 5’1. Guys over 6 feet are way too tall for me. I do like men taller than me by at least 4-5 inches but as NOT ALL WOMEN are the same, I married a guy who is 5’10 1/2. And he’s even on the taller side for me. Missionary is not as enjoyable as I am forever stuck looking at his chest. So I absolutely prefer about 5’7 to no more than my husbands hight. Also, not all women share the same interests lol. I’m sure there are some things that a lot of women like. For example, taylor swift and make…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/24 09:13 PM
10	Marraige is a net loss move for men. Can we stop pointing to DB sub as representative of the general population? Only 38% or Reddit users are female. DB DOES have many women posting as well as men. You see more men because, duh, Reddit has more male users. You would need to do a statistical analysis taking that into account before you declare men suffer more than women in DBs based off your eyeballing of the number of male posts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 07:37 PM
–	Why is it easier for women than men to get laid? These differences are rooted in evolutionary biology. Sperm is cheap and abundant. Eggs and bearing and caring for children is a huge huge cost. So women by nature must be more selective. Because being cautious in selecting the right mate (or cuckholding a mid mate with a someone perceived to have better genetics - think strongest in the tribe) would result in more viable offspring and thus be evolutionarily preserved over time. Men are more reproductively fit the more sperm they get out in the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 08:51 PM
2	Most men are struggling to find their equivalent, which is why TRP has not only spilled over into the mainstream but become common sense Wut? The starvation of elderly women? In the US? Women work and get social security. They also have social and familial networks. Could being single ones whole life, regardless of gender, result in poverty in the future? Sure. Probably less likely for women as we are now getting most of the college degrees and can easily get jobs in the health care industry with decent pay and benefits with 2 years or less college. Also, women with bullshit degrees in the social sciences etc will continue to get…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 12:48 AM
2	Most men are struggling to find their equivalent, which is why TRP has not only spilled over into the mainstream but become common sense Your equivalent based on what metric? Who determined these metrics? If the majority of these red pilled men are attractive suitors by WOMENS metrics then they would be in relationships. You all just don’t like that the metrics women judge men by are different than how you judge yourself. And as WE have something a lot of you desperately want, it is us that decide what we want. Have our metrics changed?? Absolutely, now that we are full human beings with our own human rights, we choose differentl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 12:24 AM
3	Woman really don't like most men sexually Can confirm. Based on physical presentation, there are very very few men I find immediately sexually/physically arousing. I wouldn’t put much stock in porn viewership for all the reasons others have stated. The guys are absolutely hideous in porn. I love looking at a beautiful male form. Love thinking about it. This is why erotica is what the majority of us consume. Hot men who are dominant but center our pleasure. Now that’s hot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 11:44 PM
1	Differences between casual and married sex Married sex much better for me! I’m still very attracted in all ways to my hubs after 16 years. He is a very attentive partner in all things, including sex. Frequency is good and now more dependent on his refractory time. We both always get off consistently. The few casual hook ups I had sucked. Didn’t get off. Guys were dismissive and uninterested in my pleasure or getting to know me at all. Stopped doing that pretty quickly once I learned how a lot of guys are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 05:52 PM
1	Women, what do you bring to the table? Hubs and I both found eachother and married around 30’years. I had a huge glow up around 27, losing a lot of weight and gaining a profession and confidence. What I brought to the table, especially after I got my shit together: 1.) a stable career where I make over 100k easily and even own a business 2) a fanatical love of fitness and exercise and a devotion to center fitness in our lives. 3) a desire to have kids relatively quickly 4) stable home background growing up. Excellent family relations…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 04:21 PM
–	I feel like people underestimate womens physical strength. Wow. I lift heavy and am strong for my size and strength for a woman. But my husband and pretty much any dude over 140lbs can easily take me down or restrain me at 5’1 and petite. I’ve taken self defense for women and might be able to surprise a guy who wasn’t expecting a fight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 06:27 AM
5	Is porn addiction a factor in how negatively women see the average man? Not true. We read erotica. Men watch 4x more porn. At minimum! https://ifstudies.org/blog/how-prevalent-is-pornography#:~:text=But%20there%20are%20massive%20gender,most%20frequent%20use%20of%20pornography.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 12:58 AM
2	Is porn addiction a factor in how negatively women see the average man? Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 12:56 AM
2	Part 1: The future is female lol I don’t have to read farther than the first few sentences. There was never a time in the last 2k years where women were not socialized, coerced, or had to conform to culturally enforced marriages. We literally had no other options! Or well we could be prostitutes or nuns. So no. There was not some idealistic time in the past were women yearned for the yoke of marriages they often had no choice in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 08:26 PM
8	Are women planning their lives backwards? Or is society just in an economic death spiral? I don’t think most women want to give up their twenties to be running around after kids. A few do and we as a society should absolutely support child birth and nuclear families at all ages above about 20. I know for me, it was very important to finish my education and get my career going. I wanted fo be a responsible parent and also find a mate with similar goals. Most MEN are not ready to settle down until their later twenties or thirties so it’s not just our fertility that is an issue I think …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 04:22 PM
2	Are there any women here who don't like dominance and being rough in the bedroom? I won’t lie or dissemble here. Yes, it can absolutely make a difference if one’s partner is very good looking and fit. I imagine that to be the case for both genders. I’ve stayed in pretty good shape and look about 10 years younger than my age and my husband is an absolute silver fox. Fit. Muscular. Masculine and dominant in the bedroom (mostly because I want him to be dominant) (My hubs may be a masculine guy but our relationship is 100% egalitarian we both work and both care for the house and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 02:21 AM
3	Are there any women here who don't like dominance and being rough in the bedroom? Women are varied and like different things. Sometimes multiple things. So sometimes I want a more slow build up and more tender slow love making. But a lot of times, I want to feel anomalistically desired. At those times I prefer more aggressive, dominant sex from my husband. Nothing too crazy, but I want to feel so desired by him he almost can’t control himself. The key is “almost.” My hubs stops immediately at even the smallest indication of real discomfort or if I say stop/need to change posi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 10:59 PM
1	What's your opinion on men who want to date long term by don't want to get married or have kids? Just be honest. There are women who want that as well. The problem is acting like you want more and wasting a woman’s prime reproductive years with bullshit gaslighting about marriage and kids at some nebulous point in the future	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 12:42 AM
1	Are most men "low quality"? If so, why? When one is in an equitable, egalitarian relationship it is felt in the bones. One doesn’t need to keep score in a measurable way to feel that things are balanced. Because balance is felt. Balance is communication. Balance is deciding together how chores and finances are split. At times it worked best for my husband to be a stay at home dad. He does most of the cooking because he loves it. I do most of the laundry. It’s possible to be in an egalitarian relationship with one person working and on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 12:38 AM
5	Are most men "low quality"? If so, why? Wow. I’m impressed with your comment here. Both with your agreement with the commenter and also your assessment of the role our current economy and lack of social mobility being a factor. It is a HUGE factor when a large portion of the population are stuck in shitty jobs with no stability/ benefits or ability to progress. If men can’t find provider level jobs, they can’t be providers and their social worth and their desirability as mates is dramatically less than in the past.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 12:28 AM
1	Are most men "low quality"? If so, why? Agree with others. Most men are mids. (Most women are also but a lot of men accept mid in exchange for regular sex) A lot of women, especially desirable, above average IQ, high EQ, social, confident women, just will not accept mid because it’s not value added and can be a net negative. We do not need mid sex. We do not need mid emotional intelligence. We do not need mid effort in household chores and childcare. We do not need mid career goals/ambition. My best and longest lasting (16 years marri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 12:21 AM
0	What will be the longterm implications of the erosion of the "Women's are wonderful" effect in dating and relationships? Aah. Yes. I agree with your point as well. At the bottom of the intelligence and social hierarchy we have more births. Part of that is due to our heavy social safety net. This skews nature. Without the social safety net, if we were truly back before civilization, women who choose poorly end up with dead children. Or they themselves end up dead, possibly from male aggression or lack of resources. Culture absolutely alters (sometimes in good ways) our more individualistic, non altruistic nature an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 06:59 PM
-1	What will be the longterm implications of the erosion of the "Women's are wonderful" effect in dating and relationships? Women are human beings. The idea that women are some mythical empathic wonderful beings is mostly cultural. Because we are and historically have been care givers, it’s assumed that we embody those ideals when in reality we are human and have individual traits that may or may not skew toward a particular average for that trait. Bell curves and all that. Now that we are culturally catching up to what real unfettered gender dynamics entail and now that women can be full human beings, some long held…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 11:40 PM
1	Which is easier, being a man or being a woman? I think both men and women born into upper middle class to wealthy both have it equally good and could face some minor challenges based on gender but for the most part in the west they are equal. I think lower class males probably have it the hardest with the most difficulty in upward mobility, dead end jobs, poor diet, least mate desirability, and a school system that is not designed to help boys and men. Lower class women, especially single mothers also have it hard very hard compared to group…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 10:57 PM
2	Switching around "Commitment" for "Sex" may allow more empathy between the sexes? One of the better posts I’ve seen on here. Great way to look at both sides.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 02:59 AM
8	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Bingo. Married f w/ a background in sociobio and a history of a glow up. I find sexual dynamics fascinating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 08:23 PM
8	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men Men on reddit do not represent the normal man either. And you don't get to decide if our problems "pale in comparison" to yours, just like we do not get to decide what YOU feel is the biggest issue. And there are few, if any, well adjusted people in general who regularly lurk and post on reddit. lol All the well adjusted people are off having well adjusted lives, so take ANYTHING said on here with a grain of salt	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 08:22 PM
4	You're not forced to be with women who don't want you. So for example, you would leave a girl if she had anal sex w a LTR and absolutely hated it. First time - She bled. It hurt. She did it again twice more because the lover said it would get better. She really wanted to give it an effort for the sake of her partner but each time it was the same if not worse. She determines after the third time of shitting blood that she never wants to experience that again. You would leave her if she didn’t want to do that act with you? Fucking jeezus bro. I hope y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 12:27 AM
3	Ladies (non-exclusively), what are your thoughts on population collapse? Women in western societies and even some of the Asian societies are “free” but we are not treated equally when it comes to child care home care and elder care. This is a post about reproduction so let’s not get into whataboutism (I agree w with some RP points about how men are treated in society, esp in education) When the burdens of child care, home care and often elder care are expected to be mostly on the women we are not equal. We cannot experience work and life in the manner that most men c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 07:56 PM
3	Why do Western Women believe in casual relationships the most? Uhhhhh because most of the non western world is highly patriarchal including areas that practice FGM, marital rape, and forced birth, and feel that regulating women’s bodies is a priority. Are you really trying to compare western women to places like Afghanistan/ Muslim countries or African countries?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 07:00 PM
2	Ladies (non-exclusively), what are your thoughts on population collapse? A woman’s feelings and experiences with pregnancy and childbirth are NOT black and white bro. Preg/birth are unlike any other human experience. As such, for those that want to be mothers, I would say all the pain and suffering can be worth it in the end. There were aspects of my preg/births that I loved (feeling a tiny human move inside you for the first time, holding my babies after they were born) There were aspects of preg/birth I hated. I had the worst stabbing nerve pain of my life, constan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 06:38 PM
2	Ladies (non-exclusively), what are your thoughts on population collapse? Bro they continue to reproduce because they don’t have access to reproductive healthcare and they live in highly patriarchal societies in which women have very limited options and in some cases like in Afghanistan, are still sold and abused like chattle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 06:28 PM
3	Ladies (non-exclusively), what are your thoughts on population collapse? As stated above, western men HAVE stepped up compared to their past roles, but in a majority of households women are still expected to be primary caregivers regardless of how many hours they work. I am so thankful for the overall shift in the culture in the west that at least makes it permissible for men to be 100% parents and household care takers. HOWEVER, the true egalitarian man is still a minority. It was my father, a first gen Mexican American that showed me what a true father is. He model…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 06:18 PM
21	Ladies (non-exclusively), what are your thoughts on population collapse? Yes. I am content seeing birth rates collapse. Because then maybe men and governments will step up and help with childrearing in a way that allows women to be free and equal members of society. One of the main reasons rates are collapsing in china and South Korea is because they allow women to be free, but men also expect those free women to still be primary care givers of children and parents AND take care of the house. In western societies were there is slightly more balance in terms of men be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 02:20 AM
3	Sex Robots will fix the dating market So where in your equation do you factor in the women getting male, good looking, sex bots? Hell if the bot can clean as well… lol I do not think this turns out the way you think it turns out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 09:52 PM
1	Many people talk about toxic masculinity, but we rarely hear about toxic femininity. How is it toxic to be passive? It is unlikely women's passivity has commonly oppressed men nor caused physical harm. Women being the more passive gender is not an excuse for men to act in an aggressive manner toward their fellow human beings. I would posit that aggressiveness shows as much, if not more, lack of control over emotions than crying. For someone who says they do not like the terms toxic masculinity or femininity you are sure spouting some "toxic" generalization such as women "do not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 09:30 PM
15	Is it biologically easier for guys to lower their standards compared to women? Biologically, men are wired to get their genes into the next generation by any means necessary. Only those that get their genes into the next generation are reproductively fit in evolutionary terms. This means that any fertile woman who produces a viable offspring is a good choice Ie- sperm and male attention are cheap. Mating strategies in men reflect this. Monogamy could work well for a male individual with the right mate, polygyny could even get more offspring into the next gen but would be h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/24 10:06 PM
2	Do BP Women actually believe you can be truly egalitarian and 50-50 with children? This one is a hard one for me in my social context. I am a professional the vast majority all my family, friends and acquaintances are in households that make over 100-150k. A few have stay a stay at home parent and most have working career women who at least work part time and often make as much and in some occasions more than their spouse. All the men I know in these relationships are actual real men. For the most part they are enlightened, love spending time with their kids and split househol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 05:52 PM
7	Do BP Women actually believe you can be truly egalitarian and 50-50 with children? I’m a woman and am in a very egalitarian relationship. Stuff is never 50/50 exactly because in dual income houses there will be different tasks and chores that make more sense for one person to do than the other. At times my husband stayed home w the kids. He doesn’t anymore but he still does most of the cooking because he loves cooking. And yes I bore the brunt of two childbirths and maternity leave. But because my hubs is an egalitarian and loves that I’m a professional w a career, and does hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/24 05:17 AM
1	Avoiding the Coming Demographic Collapse Do you notice who DIDNT have a choice in all this? Women. Brides. We were and, in some cases, still are, chattle. Do you think the majority of these women wanted to have sex with their enslaver? How many do you think actually wanted to bear the children of their enslaver. And I will be nuanced here and say there were absolutely different levels of enslavement and force. To be a black woman in the slavery era is unimaginable. I would bet that the majority of women would have preferred to choose t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/24 12:24 AM
0	Do you that marriage is largely obsolete today now that social norms have been largely relaxed? In a free society you are free to skip out on this tradition/legal institution. Isn’t that awesome about living in America? Everyone can do what is best for themselves including taking the risk in the legal contract of marriage or living together without a contract. Marriage in the past was absolutely different especially for women who were forced sexual slaves. Marriage today has lost some of its luster for both sexes because of perceived and real inequalities. Governments have a vested interes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/23 11:21 PM
9	Would many men still remain anti marriage if new laws were created by getting a divorce harder and abolishing alimony except in truly legitimate cases? You realize that can go both ways right? What if your wife makes more than you (a lot of us do.) what if she just sours on you but wants to stay in the marriage. She does minimal helping out around the house, she does the minimum with the kids, she doesn’t cheat and sometimes has sex with you but she is obviously not into it. Do you want to be stuck in this relationship?? You actually want a judge to say No. those are not good enough reasons for a divorce?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 08:54 PM
13	Avoiding the Coming Demographic Collapse Bro the reason women have so many kids “in the past” or in current modern times in poverty stricken countries is because women DID NOT or DO not have reproductive freedom or access to birth control. Hell we didn’t even have control of who we were made to marry. And in many countries this is still the case. Kids are rarely source of security in poverty stricken areas unless the girls are sold off like chattel. Sure they can provide some help around the farm when they are older but this is not the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/23 10:27 PM
-2	Should guys take it personally if they have to wait till their 30s to have success with women? You should not take it personally. You were not ready yet to be what the type of woman YOU want, wants. I am sure you were able to score a woman who is a better fit for you once you matured as a human being. I (46f) was fat and nerdy my whole life until I decided to become the best version of myself I could be around age 27. I harbor no ill will to the males that either wouldn't look twice at me, or would use me for sex but would NEVER be caught dead with me as a significant other. I harbor no i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/23 12:11 AM
–	How do average looking guys get 10/10 Western women? Why is there less dating inflation abroad? Become Elon musk, Jeff bezos or Pete Davidson. You have zero chance of attracting 10/10 woman. And even if you attain the status needed to attract the kind of woman you are seeking… she would be just with you for the status. She wouldn’t actually want to fuck you. She likely wouldn’t actually desire you. Maybe she would care for you and even love you a little. But most likely you would be her job that she performs in order to live the lifestyle she wants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/23 05:30 PM
3	this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to be Agreed. Im not sure that this is an actual woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 06:32 PM
1	this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to be No. It’s not every woman’s dating trajectory. Lol. I improved on myself vastly after losing an ton of weight, focusing on my career and my confidence. I went from being used by asshole mids (no 8+ would even look at me) who mostly just used me and would never actually commit or even want to go out in public with me to dating absolute amazing high value men and ultimately marrying a 9+. Married 16 years. Also I did meet him online although they didn’t have apps back then. Edit to add would also a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 06:19 PM
1	this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to be I don’t think most women are holding out or even looking for the type of dude you describe. As others said, that is more of a 1 out of a 100 type of guy. It’s true most gals want a good looking guy with a good career. This is just normal behavior based on evolutionary biology. Women should absolutely not lower their individual standards or desires. The standards and desires will change over time as the woman matures and gets more experience to know what she wants. Just like you matured.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/23 05:58 PM
3	Women generally don't consider a mans potential, and this is causing unhealthy imbalances in the dating market Bro I didn't read any of your screed past "why ignoring a man's potential is bad over all" Everyone has potential. I could potentially hit the lotto. I could potentially become a hedge fund manager. I could potentially become a famous YouTube or movie star. The only time when women should consider potential is when they are dating young men. It's easy to assess potential then: is he in college or trade school with a good stable career choice? Is he a business minded entrepreneur? Does he manage …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 08:53 PM
–	Why should men enter relationships when any woman has to power to legally easily ruin you life forever? Sounds like you should never enter a relationship with a woman. Perhaps you should see if men are more up your ally. And just for rhetorical purposes, why should a woman ever enter a relationship or have sex with a man? The vast majority of female homicides are committed by men. Men are often vastly stronger than us and can hold us down and force us easily if they want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 08:40 PM
2	Single men are bitter. I wonder why? Empathy is is understanding and sharing the feelings of the other individual. As men and women have vastly different experiences it is very difficult to really, truthfully empathize on most of the issues this post talks about. You all are right that most women don’t know what it’s like to never get attention of the opposite sex. We cannot empathize with that. We also have an easier time being alone and making friends so it’s hard to empathize with loneliness. It’s hard to empathize with men who …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 06:29 PM
2	Single men are bitter. I wonder why? I’m not a man so I do not understand the social pressures you face but that expected sympathy is also socially constructed. It does not mean that most men actually feel sympathy or empathy for women as a whole. Just as with us, I believe most men have the ability to empathize with women they know and probably some issues that women as a category face. But on the whole, just like most women don’t give a shit about most men, most men don’t give a shit about most women. The social expectation of em…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 06:18 PM
0	Single men are bitter. I wonder why? So I’m confused then? I agree with you. The vast majority of us don’t give a shit about men we don’t know. The vast majority of us don’t give a shit about women we don’t know. And often if we say we do it’s because we are socialized to smile and say the words. Why do you think we are supposed to have empathy and sympathy for men we don’t know? Serious question. Cuz I’m confused. Do we owe you/men we don’t know genuine empathy and sympathy? Note I say men we don’t know. It also goes for men we ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 11:00 PM
-1	Single men are bitter. I wonder why? Because it absolutely IS ok to not show empathy or sympathy for men I don’t know. As others mention, the minute we show that we care, certain men will take this the wrong way. So we learn to NOT show theses attributes to men we do not know. Empathy and sympathy CANNOT BE FORCED. You cannot force us to have these feelings. And it is especially ok to not show it to men who do not reciprocate these attributes. I doubt you feel any empathy or sympathy toward the plight of single mothers? Or ugly wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 09:56 PM
8	Single men are bitter. I wonder why? Correction PEOPLE in general and strangers in specific, do not have sympathy nor understand male loneliness. The only ppl that likely care are your direct relatives and friends. It is not for random women or women in the very initial phases of dating to give you the emotional support you need. Where I do agree is that women do not need to comment so much because of course we do no fully understand - we are not men. The idea that women have to be empathic is in part socially constructed. You have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 05:50 PM
2	Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate men Lol. I have huge doubts you are a medical doctor. If you were a real doc you would lay out actual scenarios that you personally have witnessed or experienced. Instead you use a fictional TV show to make whatever arguments you are trying to make. Greys anatomy is sooooo far from real medicine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/23 07:12 PM
1	Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynists Agreed. There have been so many cultural constraints on both sexes it’s hard to know what this modern shift will result in. Personally I absolutely think a monogamous pair who cares for each other gives children the best outcomes in modern society. I think on a civilizational level, culturally enforced monogamy is most beneficial. Large populations of unmated unmoored males is not a good thing. But neither is enslaving women. I think most of mens issues are the economic issues perpetuated by eli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 08:29 PM
4	Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynists Yes, polygyny is one of several mating strategies employed by both sexes. It some cases it may result in better reproductive success for poor or low social status women and it certainly is a good strategy in terms of evolutionary fitness for males. This is just a statement of sociobiologic observation and has nothing to do with the moral or cultural aspects. One of the reasons humans have done so well is that we are not limited to one reproductive strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 05:06 AM
0	Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynists Ummm. No. That was not the promise of feminism lol. Feminism was and is about taking our place as fully equal humans to men. There is little about “love” in feminism. Feminism is about having power (political, economic and cultural) equal to men and rights equal to men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 10:04 PM
0	Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynists Bruv- I don’t know what women you are exposed to. Perhaps you have a warped view from social media…but most women are not on only fans and have not slept with more than a few men. Most of us just exist as normal human beings wanting to maximize our own benefit and those of our direct kin. Some of us have more ability to do this than others because of our own genetic gifts. We are all out for ourselves (and by default, or genes) I would suggest reading a book called the “red Queen” by Matt Ridley…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 08:45 PM
5	Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynists Why would you have the impressions that, when free, women would create a dating market full of “love and pure intentions?” While women are different then men, humans all have their own sexual and reproductive imperative, imposed by millennia of evolution. Of COURSE we are going to select for the best we can get (metrics of best will very on an individual level but has a lot of cross over) This is the natural order. Not the sexual enslavement we have suffered at the hands of men since we started …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 06:02 PM
0	Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse" Every human being ever is solipsistic. Every human being ever has their own point of view. However there are events and words and actions that are real and measurable and recordable. Your own solipsism is not allowing you to engage with what I said in a manner that takes my experiences at face value or with empathy and understanding. Instead you are dismissive. Just like the women who dismiss male loneliness and suffering. I shared those experiences here of being judged for my appearance and dis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 12:31 AM
0	Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse" My friend the “literally” happened for me is a reference to it LITERALLY was a fact that I had low self esteem and it was LITERALLY a fact that some men “exploited my willingness to have sex with them for validation” as outlined by the OPs post. Like that actually happened in real life and yes by assholes who by actions and words said that was the only reason I ever saw them. And also an actual therapist pointed out my self esteem issues esp in relation to men and to my disordered eating. And I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 08:49 PM
0	Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse" Ok so why is this victimization? YOU framed it as that. I just stated how it made me feel and how those feelings provided the impetus to change myself for the better. Victimization would indicate that I harbor resentment and feelings of being a victim. I do not. I was my own worse enemy. I own my past - my failures, my poor choices and also my hard fought glow up. Do I sound like I victimize myself to you?? I love to point out my story on here because it IS possible to self actualize and own you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 08:35 PM
5	Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse" I was number 3. And I didn’t re frame or frame my past experiences as a fat woman who then put the work in to improve myself. It’s literally what happened to me. It’s literally how I felt at the time and I feel the same looking back. What you call framing is, for me, just DESCRIBING what happened and how I felt/feel about it and how I used to feelings in a positive way to change my life for the better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 04:22 PM
7	The only reason women have such an extreme upper hand in dating is for one simple reason - men are way hornier Bro - sure there are some people that deny biology but most people understand that male attention and sperm are cheap, abundant and mostly low quality. Nearly 100% of violence, stalking and harassment toward women is caused by men and most of us have experienced something in this realm at least once. The male drive is high by design to ensure or at least attempt to get genes into the next gen. Also, most casual sex and a lot of sex in general does not lead to orgasm for women so why would we wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 08:56 PM
0	CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually want Teehee. I do have a cat. And also a loving husband who is absolutely a catch in every metric. I did far far better for myself the more I focused on self improvement and increased vastly the standards I had. I’m on this sub because I found my behavior and my outcome fascinating as someone who studied a little sociobiology and is interested in sexual dynamics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 04:31 AM
–	CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually want You are correct. Your low bar definition of “good man” is not what most of us would consider a good enough man for LTR/marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 11:16 PM
–	Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsense The free market sets the value. Other men are not the “buyers” in this market so what value they would place on you or other men is irrelevant. There has never been a feee market in the relationship world for women until the last 40ish years. Market values are not something that is static. If women become desperate enough or the market becomes saturated with what WE perceive as high value, then the qualities needed to entice a sale will go down. Unless you are for a return to enslavement of wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 09:24 PM
2	I don't want to judge but do we now have proof of girls' poor choices? Uuhhh Jonny depp/amber herd? Bro I know so many dudes who go for red flag crazy women and the reason why is the same. BECAUSE SHE WAS HOT.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 11:27 PM
3	CMV Men that date Single Moms, will always be seen as Cucks/suckers by other Men, and Women need to understand this. Wow. What planet are you living on? I’m 46 and have never encountered this type of thinking. I know and have met many men with blended families or come into the relationship w no kids. Often the men dating single moms also have kids and they are looking for a partner who is understanding and who will love his kids as well. Most dudes who self select out of dating single moms because of this type of thinking are absolutely not the type of men to date or have around ones kid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 07:56 PM
2	Men’s loneliness epidemic is not women’s problem. I use the term gift mainly in the biologic and sociologic sense in this context. Children and human beings ARE given a gift by their mothers who gestate them and birth them and raise them often at the expense of our bodies and sometimes our mental health. Often without a lot of help (unless we are very picky and select a really good mate who is invested and interested in his offspring). Without this genetic gift to human kind, ourselves and to the man we CHOOSE to reproduce, humanity ceases to e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 05:24 PM
15	men's dating experience is unfair and feminism has failed to address it Umm your dating issues and women’s biologic imperative to be choosy (because male attention and sperm are abundant and cheap) are not the fault of feminism. Life is unfair. It was unfair to women for all of human history.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 03:49 PM
6	Men’s loneliness epidemic is not women’s problem. While I agree that this is a small part of the problem, it is not the whole piece. I don't necessarily want men to be very vulnerable and emotional. Nor do I think most women want this. I think we want a man who CAN be these things under certain circumstances but who is also a man in the masculine sense as well...outgoing, driven, strong EQ, strong work ethic, centers his life around his family and not useless hobbies like gaming. I also think that a HUGE factor is economics. Lets put aside the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 11:15 PM
–	Is it unfair that hinge has a height preference but doesn’t have a weight/body type preference? Men designed these apps. They designed them to make money and to keep users interested.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/23 08:40 PM
6	Everything In Relationships Ultimately Comes Down To Power For Men Love this reply and this fits me and my hubs to a T. We share childcare. We both work hard and both make over 6 figures. Our responsibilities around the house and kids are split equitably so that each of us does what we are best at. We bought, built up and sold a business for $$$$$. Neither of us independently could have achieved the success we have. And in our 40s we still get freaky regularly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 02:35 AM
2	Are men more romantic? This behavioral observation is rooted in nature and also socially conditioned/reinforced. Look at most mammalian and avian species. Male attention and sperm is cheap. Sex and reproduction for females is biologically “expensive” and risky. Females of many species vet males often by their investment in providing resources and/or by perceived genetic value. So yes, of course, we are not, as a whole, interested in wooing men. Especially men we are just getting to know. Many women who are in LTRs pro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 07:27 PM
–	The wall does exist but there are misconceptions Because by late twenties you have BOTH had your fun and both had good and bad experiences and are mature. Both, in middle and upper class, often have decent jobs and have the life goal of settling down with someone w similar goals and life experience and are ready for kids. This is how it went for me and my hubs. He even had the mistake at 27 of marrying someone “because she was hot” who then proceeded to milk him and show her crazy side. We met, both of us professionals, both with similar life …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 07:11 PM
–	What do you think about the moms who refuse DNA paternity testing? Would you refuse one yourself and if so what would be your reason or reasons? A man is free to ask and even demand a test. And the woman is free to give him his walking papers especially if there has never been a hint of infidelity. So if a guy wants to risk blowing up his relationship sure go for it. It would probably be a good idea if she’s been having an emotional affair or weird secretive behavior. But accept the consequences. And if a woman is so unethical that she would hide the paternity of her children SHE deserves all the consequences and repercussions of such ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/23 07:37 PM
2	The reason men outperform women is to become attractive ? Um. This is all evolutionary bio in action. Women bear all the costs of sex. To be evolutionarily fit, we must by biologic imperative, look for a partner that will be a net benefit via support for ourselves and offspring and/or via higher perceived quality in genetics (tall, athletic, charismatic, but not necessarily monogamous) Of course we are looking across and up the mating hierarchy. Duh. And now that we are free of sexual subjugation in the west, we frequently choose NONE as an option when…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/23 06:54 PM
–	There is a active push to limit the scope of socially acceptable venues to approach a woman Have you worked on yourself in terms of your appearance and physical presentation? Check in with the girls you do know to see if there is stuff you can do better. There are a lot of mannerisms that are off putting as well as poor overall presentation. I do have empathy for you. I was ignored and at several points made fun of by boys/men because I was 100 pounds over weight, had a bit of facial hairs, and horrible style and was a nerd/awkward. I was used by several men sexually who would have nev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/23 09:13 PM
6	There is a active push to limit the scope of socially acceptable venues to approach a woman In all these places you mention and many others…. It’s totally ok if you smile at a gal and she gives you good eye contact and a smile … sure! Strike up a conversation. Ya’ll need to learn how to read social queues. If the convo goes well offer her your number and and say I’d love to chat more if you are interested and walk away. Easy. If a woman doesn’t give you good eye contact, good smile and easy convo don’t continue to hit on her! She’s not into you/not interested. It’s not rocket science. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/23 07:36 PM
6	I asked the women at my work what they think of the rise of AI girlfriends and they’re all supportive of it Lol. Dictators and religious fundamentalists are also on our long exclusionary list along with excessive gamers and porn addicts and the list goes on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/23 02:14 PM
21	I asked the women at my work what they think of the rise of AI girlfriends and they’re all supportive of it Umm. Good. I agree. And so would all the women I work with. The types of guys who would use an AI girlfriend are not the types of men we are interested in. We definitely don’t want dudes who want/expect an idealized woman with idealized responses and no agency of her own. We don’t need to reflect. Nature is harsh. We in the western cultures have full agency in who we love, fuck, date and reproduce with. As nature intended, we can be picky now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/23 10:19 PM
4	Studies show the higher the IQ a man has the less attractive he is to women It’s because many very high IQ dudes have zero social skills and are off putting in their behavior/mannerisms and conversations. I love smart guys but that has to be paired with normal/good social and emotional skills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/23 07:54 PM
1	Ladies would you date a man who makes less money than you or who is unemployed? I’ve made over 6 figures since I graduated. Before I married a guy who made nearly as much as me, I did date a few guys who made less but had good careers with good benefits. The key was they had actual careers. One was a senior mechanic at a factory. I would never have dated someone unemployed or who had a bullshit go nowhere working class job. I like a man who hustles as hard as I do. Edit: I see some posts about house husbands. The awesome dude I married (who at the time was making 110 to my …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 04:50 PM
1	Given the status of the dating market it is completely acceptable for men to lie/use immoral means when it comes to dating Hah. And ya’ll boys on here wonder why so many women are happy being single rather than deal with lying d bags like OP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 09:56 PM
–	Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells you Right. You have to be more than just average and nice. That is not enough for many women, especially educated women who want family and a career. There is nothing surprising about this. You need to bring to the table: humor, passion about life/career/hobbies/spouse, a cooperative/egalitarian spirit, and similar social/cultural/spiritual values… the list will be different for every woman. If you don’t bring more to the table than average and nice … we’ll that’s tepid and a big portion of women wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 08:09 PM
7	Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense. As harsh as it is, if one is finding trouble finding a true pair bond, that individual is low quality or at least of lower quality than what the woman in question can get. High quality/high value individuals can always find people to date and marry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 12:56 AM
9	Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense. No. Nature and biology is not fair. You are not entitled to or owed a woman of any stature. Women are not socialist offerings. Nature is harsh. Low quality males of many species often fail to find mates and reproduce. This is how evolution works. If you do not bring enough to the table (resources, good genes, ability to care for your young) you are cut out of genetic pool. As it should be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 08:10 PM
2	CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careers Can absolutely confirm. I’m a professional woman and have many colleagues and acquaintances in professional fields. The vast majority of men and women I know with a bachelors or better married in their social class and are doing quite well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 09:52 PM
2	Men should just refuse to get married Divorce rates are much lower for dual college educated couples who marry a bit later in life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 07:42 PM
3	It is hard for wealthy and successful men to find good women for love and marriage A rich educated dude should have no trouble finding an educated professional women. They are graduating in droves and only want to marry in their social class. I say this as an educated professional woman. All my male and female peers (doctors, lawyers and such) are married in their social class but one. If a rich dude wants the hottest gal available but doesn’t care about her class he has to take his chances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 07:37 PM
3	Men should just refuse to get married Simple. Don’t get married. All your red and black pill information is out there. A segment of women is choosing to remain single rather than tie themselves to men to do not bring enough to the table. By all means. Stay out of the marriage pool. Some of us will continue enjoy the benefits of marriage. It doesn’t work out for many people but there is a large segment for whom marriage is great…. Especially when you don’t settle for anything less then your equal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 03:34 PM
2	CMV : Most women don’t think they’re deserving of a top men. But almost none would admit to themselves they deserve average or below…. Spot on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 01:57 AM
1	CMV : Most women don’t think they’re deserving of a top men. But almost none would admit to themselves they deserve average or below…. It is not unreasonable. It’s evolutionary biology at work. It’s how we evolve as a species. Men stick their dick In everything and sperm is cheap. They are only evolutionarily fit if they manage to reproduce. Women have a limited capacity to reproduce by nature and we will almost always go for the best we can attain because evolutionary fitness demands it. If women keep mating with mids we end up with a stupider, uglier, shorter, less ambitious population going forward.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 01:42 AM
1	How do you feel about society making men "obligated" to lead a relationship (asking a girl out, initiating the first kiss, proposing, etc)? It’s biology and social conditioning bro. It’s evolution and reproductive strategy in action. This is how we evolved. Sperm is cheep and abundant. You have to show us that your sperm is worth it. It’s fundamental.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 05:11 AM
1	If a woman has difficulty coming to orgasm, that's not my problem She doesn’t necessarily “need” a vibrator but it can make it happen way faster especially if the dude is not much for oral or long foreplay. Calling someone defective for using a vibrator for fun during sex is pretty fucked up. I’ll be sure to label every guy who shoots his shot too fast or likes porn to cum defective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 11:18 PM
2	If a woman has difficulty coming to orgasm, that's not my problem It is your problem if you are consistently not getting laid or your partners leave you from being unsatisfied. And I have a feeling if you ever had a girl saying she came in 5 minutes that it’s even odds she was faking it. Vast majority of women need a good solid 10-20 min of good foreplay OR a good vibrator to get there Also, 5 minutes really? Good sex with foreplay should be at least a 30 minute affair unless it’s an agreed upon quickie Edit to add: I would never look elsewhere for dick becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 09:42 PM
1	If women are happier when single. Why do they push for commitment? I’m sure there are many low effort women just like there are many many low effort men. However a majority of women who really like and respect their partners put in as much or more effort into the relationship. Successful relationships that are long lasting most likely have equal investment and care in each other. When one partner lags in investment and respect this is when the relationship fails. Women just DONT have to put up with low investment and low respect anymore. Neither do men. We can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/23 05:30 PM
1	If women are happier when single. Why do they push for commitment? Women are not necessarily happier single. They are just happier being single if their previous relationship and interactions with men have been WORSE than being single. BIG difference. And of course there are complaints if a majority of men they are dating are just after hook ups and not LTRs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/23 02:18 AM
2	If the average men of today live much easier lives than those in the past, why are women not satisfied? Hard agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 08:29 PM
2	If the average men of today live much easier lives than those in the past, why are women not satisfied? Not a hot pile of garbage at all. Women have very rarely in recorded human history had any choice in who we reproduce with. There are still many places like this currently. Prior to civilization there may have been more choice in small Hunter gatherer groups but we can only guess. My suspicion is that there was a variety of mating strategies in Hunter gatherers but men were likely still dominant in determining the mating arrangements. Without males and family members forcing us into relationship…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 07:56 PM
1	If the average men of today live much easier lives than those in the past, why are women not satisfied? Average Joe probably doesn’t do much cooking, cleaning and caregiving. Average Joe probably has a porn and video game habit. Average Joe probably has a lowish paying job that would not support a family. Average Joe probably doesn’t know how to really center a woman’s pleasure during sex. Average Joe is probably uneducated. Average Joe may have social conservative leanings and/or follow redpill/Tate. Average women often can maintain a house. Care for kids and aging parents. Often has a higher edu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 07:46 PM
4	If the average men of today live much easier lives than those in the past, why are women not satisfied? Because we do not HAVE to depend on men anymore. We can be selective with who has access to our bodies and who we reproduce with. We have full agency as humans now. A percentage of us will find the type of relationship we want (generally egalitarian) and a percentage will not find that type of egalitarian, mutually beneficial relationship and will opt out and still be just fine. We will not opt to be mommy bang maids for men who do not bring enough to the table.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 07:36 PM
0	If sex was saved until marriage, do you think it would stop most of dating issues? Nope nope nope. Sexual compatibility is a must know for most people before committing to a life time together.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 12:43 AM
1	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? Lol able bodied women are NOT generally looking for little boys or even men to do this. But it is an nice gesture when they do. Especially if we are carrying something or if we are older. It’s just something cultural that is done in polite society. No one says you have to do it. It’s kinda like the nice cashier or someone who walks by you that smiles and says hello how are you? I have absolutely opened doors for a guy who is carrying stuff, has kids with him or is older/ disabled. If an older pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 07:45 PM
1	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? Uhh the question was about our sons. Not about everyone. Don’t get your feathers in a bunch. And I’m pretty sure most able bodied dudes are not looking for kids or women to open doors for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/23 11:45 PM
2	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? Currently preparing my 12 year old by modeling egalitarian behavior with my husband. We are equal partners. We treat each other with respect. Secondary: - absolutely no social media. No smart phones. No access to the internet unless through a parental control app - discuss womens issues and puberty and age appropriate sexuality (for example when his sis got her period we’ve had several discussions on that) - we teach and model good hygiene, participation in house hold chores (he does his own lau…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 07:55 PM
8	If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flags Yes. A small segment of women will. Just like men will do the same for a really hot crazy woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 02:19 PM
-1	Sex is extremely important to people and when they say it's not, they're lying. You are not going to die from lack of sex. This is not a good comparison	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/23 08:03 PM
1	Sex is extremely important to people and when they say it's not, they're lying. It’s shaming ugly men (inside and out) who persist in pursuing even after rejection (polite or not) and who spout the worst most degrading aspects of the red pill ie calling women foids toilets, low intelligence, spinning plates, negging. There was a post a few days ago staining as fact that women are mentally less than men. Of course sex is an innate desire and it’s not wrong to want it. It’s HOW you peruse it and how you speak about and to women when you are unsuccessful. It’s an unfortunate p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/23 08:00 PM
1	Women have total control of the dating market I don’t need to conceptualize bro. I literally said it in my post just with different words. There is a large and growing pool of men at the bottom of the chain with no or negative SMV. This is probably due in part to the destruction of the middle class. But it’s also a function of our mammalian reproductive strategies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/23 04:53 PM
–	At this point in time women already have complete psychological control over men. I did not edit my list of professions and I did not read any of your comments before typing my reply. My reply was my initial gut reaction to your very infantile post. It’s clear you do not interact much with society at large. I am a professional and my social and professional circle is filled with women who do very important work both domestically at home and in their careers. You may be able to deduce from my handle that I am a vet. If you like animals you will have to get over your disdain of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/23 04:45 PM
9	At this point in time women already have complete psychological control over men. Lol. This is hella funny. If you don’t want to be involved with women “controlling” you leave us alone. Asking for the minimum of steady good employment, equitable distribution of emotional, financial and household labor, decent to good looks is not controlling. If you think most women have nothing to offer besides sex you will never end up with a gf. Women are doctors, layers, teachers, caregivers, child raisers, therapists etc. we are unique and most of us bring more to the table than just sex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 08:05 PM
1	Men want a woman who is as into him as possible, women want a man who ticks as many checkboxes as possible Welcome to evolutionary biology where the costs of reproduction are unequal and the mating strategies are vastly different. Of course women are going to have a much higher bar in every aspect of what we want in a dude. It’s hard wired because we bare all the health costs of pregnancy and 18 years of caring for offspring. The scenario for B you present for women is rather silly because that’s not what most women are holding out for. If you had said B = 80 + k a year, good looking, at least 5-6 in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 04:14 PM
1	Women have total control of the dating market If he can’t get a date he is not a desirable match or is over reaching on who he is hitting on. Your “looks match” is not necessarily your dating pool. We will weed out everyone who does not fit what we are looking for at the time. If WE as women over reach in who we allow to date and fuck us, we will not end up in a monogamous LTR or marriage. Ultimately this is the balance. In mammalian courting and mating there often ends up an excess of undesirable males at the bottom who fail to reproduce. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 04:00 PM
1	Women have total control of the dating market Perhaps control of the dating market but not control of the LTR or marriage proposal department	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/23 08:23 PM
7	Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the world Please site your sources for women being the weaker sex mentally. According to my quick search there is no statistically significant difference between the sexes in IQ. Women do score higher on EQ. Men and women are different. We may shine in different aspects of intelligence but we are just as smart as men on average. Everything exists on a bell curve. If anything women are being the smarter sex in rejecting most men who do not bring enough to the table to make it worth our while when we can li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/23 01:26 AM
1	Women let men work for them, think for them and take on their responsibilities, and they call this "masculinity". A real man is a husband and partner that helps with our kids and household with an mutually agreed upon equitable distribution of labor/ finances/ emotional support. I literally know not one women who fits what you stated above.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/23 07:54 PM
1	As a woman, you can afford to be lazy and uninteresting and you'll still find someone to provide and take care of you. Why are you hating on the scant few women that do this and not the males who enable this behavior? The majority of women work AND also take care of the majority of household work/child rearing. You must know very few people to think this is a common scenario. Edit to add: Are you mad at all the 20 and 30 something males sitting at home, under/unemployed farting around on reddit and playing video games, leaching off their parents (MOM and dad's) labor?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 06:39 PM
1	The whole “wOmEn dOn’T oWe yOu sEx” narrative is bullshit, the vast majority of men do not think this at all. Most men just rightfully expect to be able to get women at or below their level of attractiveness. You assume value is only based on looks. If you want to get right down to it, women are biologically/reproductively more valuable than men. Lets just say that being being the sex that has to undergo 9 months of pregnancy and at least 15 years of solid parenting where our lives are secondary to our children...that gives us a +3 on the value scale. Looks are but one metric of "value"	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/23 02:44 AM
3	If men and women had the same sexuality, the dating market would be very different This is a silly scenario to imagine. Of course we do not have the same sexuality. Biologic imperatives trump current cultural sociologic fads. As long as women bear the brunt of childbirth and child rearing the cost of sex is MUCH greater for us then for men. This leads to different sexual strategies out of necessity. We can revisit this question when sex is entirely divorced from birthing. Ie artificial wombs and complete reproductive freedom for women. Edit to add: agree with the others to say…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/23 08:41 PM
0	How many relationships are initiated by women in modern dating? It says that women don’t put up with bullshit in a marriage anymore. Men will want to stay with their mommy bang maid even if they are cheating or not in love because it’s convenient. Women are not going to start proposing any time soon. Women will push their boyfriends with hints, timelines, and discussions I don’t think many men including those in LTRs like the the idea of the gf proposing. Women make it abundantly clear if we want marriage. Asking the dude straight up or actually proposing is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/23 07:39 PM
1	Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundance The difference is that the aggressive violent man actually physically violates another human being. This is against the law. As long as he doesn’t violate any laws he is free to spout his bullshit and be a woman hater. The tendency to rape and dominate in some men has been evolutionarily conserved because it some cases it results in offspring. The women following her nature may emotionally harm someone else but she is not sexually violating him or physically hurting him. This women will likely g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/23 12:54 AM
5	Q4W: Have you personally, or do you know any women who were only able to find success with men after lowering their standards? How do you feel in general about men or women lowering their standards to find success? I had way better success improving myself and increasing my standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/23 02:02 AM
3	Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to be I agree with this. As someone who was a decent face morbidly obese gal up until 27 I never got the type of attention I wanted from men. I wanted a guy to like me for me and want me for a gf. It was never hard to find sex. But it was with low quality men who just wanted to use me and had no interest in getting to know me even tho I love video games, sci fi, action movies, comedy etc. this was a huge hit on my self esteem. It wasn’t until I lost weight, graduated a professional and learned how to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/23 01:48 AM
1	CMV: The fire that's burning dating down started with women unrealistically raising their standards. And men are fanning those flames with pumping and dumping. My friend this is natural evolutionary biology. Women should always try to marry up if they are are not already in the upper class. When an mammal is given an opportunity to achieve better evolutionary fitness, those that exploit that advantage have a better shot at reproducing. Men created the dating apps and both sexes will naturally use them to benefit their own goals to the max. Women who do not at the very least marry across are at a reproductive disadvantage. I don’t think the fire will bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/23 04:36 PM
1	"Working on yourself" is a two-way street where men can only learn and improve if they can, well... actually get to date women first I will give you that point. It’s easy to throw around neurodivergent and autism in an condescending and mean spirited manner. I used the term because a lot of men self describe as that on here and in the incel world. It was an easy short cut for my point. I should most rightly say “men with off-putting social skills and poor emotional intelligence” Edit: Also please note I referred to neurodivergent women as well and did not infer either men or women with autism are “retarded”	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 06:44 PM
–	People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average man Sure it would suck if they really wanted sex and intimacy and could never get it. There are a lot of wants that people do not achieve but that is life. They are not going to die. They could even thrive if they chose to focus their energy elsewhere just like in the limited diet scenario. Just like a man who gets a bilateral permanent testicular injury or early prostate cancer and could never reach orgasm again. It would suck. Deeply. but he could chose to live or he could choose to be miserable t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 06:40 PM
4	"Working on yourself" is a two-way street where men can only learn and improve if they can, well... actually get to date women first If you haven’t “worked on yourself” don’t expect to date anything but low self esteem hot mess women. Men who have not actively worked on themselves since their teen years are not worth most of our time. Most of us are a bit more mature then same age men. We do not want man babies. We do not want men who are not confident and self assured and working on bettering their place in life. What’s the point? I spent YEARS working on myself. See previous posts. I expect no less from my partner. You can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 06:30 PM
–	People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average man Would I do it purposefully? For short periods yes. Just like most probably wouldn’t be celibate on purpose for their whole life if they had a good alternative. But if they had no alternative they could live just fine. Just like if I had no alternative to eating a limited diet (that met required nutrients to not die) I would be fine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 06:22 PM
-1	Why married women are you on this sub? Lol. No. My kids are both very smart. Top of their honors classes. Both will be attractive adults. Both are being aimed to college and the professional class. Neither have cell phones or are allowed on social media to be poisoned by porn, tik tok and misogynistic or misandrist content. My son will inherit my short hight unfortunately but he will have every other point going for him. My hubs and I spend a lot of time weight lifting and we are teaching both kids to be fit. We are very egalitarian …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 06:18 PM
–	People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average man Yes. Absolutely. If you add in enough micronutrients that’s probably a healthier diet than 90% of people in the west eat. Would it be enjoyable. No. But I’d probably be in hella awesome shape which would make me very happy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 06:09 PM
–	People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average man “Healthier if they engaged in forced sex”. Are you serious? A man would healthier if he rapes or gets raped by someone? If he psychologically and physically abuses or gets abused? That is not health that is psychopathy and should be bred out of humanity as fast as we can.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 04:25 PM
–	People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average man Exactly. It’s a “want.” A strong want in most men but want none the less.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 04:22 PM
24	Why married women are you on this sub? Three reasons 1) I leveled up massively in my late twenties and maxed my looks and career and got successively better and better dating options until I met my hubs. See my previous posts (lost about 125 pounds and became a professional) 2) I studied evolutionary and sociobiology in school and sexual dynamics fascinate me, especially in relation to my own personal life and behavior as I was able to date much better quality men. 3) I have a 14 year old daughter and a 12 year old son. I like to kee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 12:09 AM
2	Why do women really live in constant fear of men? I Don’t live in fear but live with the constant knowledge that the vast majority of men are much stronger and bigger than me (I’m 5’1). And for all of human history penises and large body size have been used to traumatize and abuse us. Men rarely experience this unless they get imprisoned. Most of us modify our behavior and interactions based on this knowledge Many of us have experienced this first hand. Most of us have friends or family that have experienced violence and manipulation/coercion b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/23 10:05 PM
4	Onlyfans should be illegal. Onlyfans is leveraging your sexuality to take advantage/gain financial benefits from another party, NC is leveraging your physicality to...you can fill in the rest Im assuming you are down for banning porn too? It’s just direct to consumer porn	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:04 AM
4	Do you care about a women's income when it comes to dating? I know my hubby was very happy to meet me (professional graduate degree and career oriented) after a string of gf and one wife of a year who did not contribute financially and were not career minded. Our values aligned - we are both gunners. Both interested in building wealth and a life together. Both wanted kids and he accepted and welcomed an equal partnership in child rearing and household management. At times he was a stay at home parent and at other times I’ve been primary parent. I think t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 11:06 PM
1	Women you have 5 points to create your ideal man. What are you picking, Ummm. You really need to add intelligence/education level. +/- emotional intelligence. Also professional career. These would be my top plus 11/ top tier humor. And then looks at a 7/10 or above.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/23 12:20 AM
1	The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enough I would just say two important things about the statistics you use: 1.) You (and all the others who tout the 80/20 rule) assume that women want the exact same 20%. This is not true at all. There may be a few men at the very top that most women would go for and there will be some general overlap with the 20% but it is not a 100% match. It is NOT the exact same 20% we are all pining over. 2.) Men may date and want to fuck 80% of women in their general age bracket, but the % of women that a guy wou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 07:13 PM
3	CMV: It is sad that it has become so normalized to not settle down until you're 30+ I was not mature enough or ready to settle down until I was 29. I also took my twenties to focus on my career and leveling up myself (I was always very overweight e low self esteem) At 29 I met my amazing husband and true egalitarian partner who is my equal in all ways. Without looking it up, I would bet that marriages later in life, especially among professionals/highly educated have a lower divorce rate than those that marry at a young age	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 05:39 PM
1	When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you. Please link to a study that you are using to justify this assertion. Your personal opinion, online chatter and incel propaganda are not real world facts. Women are human beings and love is a complex emotion and relationships are even more complex. If either partner in a relationship stops providing emotional and real world support (ie equal or proportional financial, house care, sex/physical intimacy ,child care etc) of course the relationship is going to fall apart. A relationship is a multi fa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 01:47 AM
5	Looks will get your foot in the door, but these days the door is on the top floor Correct. Because a lot of men will bang anything female with 2 legs and a heartbeat. This is not our fault. This is your nature. To spread your seed far and wide. Womens biologic sexual strategy is different. Your goal is often just to nut. A woman's goal broadly is to find a partner to share in life and childrearing. Both sexes will exploit all available tools in our toolkit. Of course women will go for the best looking and highest value male they can get. Of course men will generally only comm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/23 11:41 PM
1	What are women even expected to do during the courting phase? this! finally someone else that understands evolutionary bio.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/23 12:26 AM
1	What are women even expected to do during the courting phase? Evolutionarily, women have the most to lose from choosing the wrong partner. We carry 100% of the burden of pregnancy and child rearing and health consequences should something go wrong and if the male leaves. This means that mammalian females must be choosy. Males reproductive efforts are cheap and abundant. Most mammalian (and avian) males must make displays (fighting, showing special adornment/dances/vocalizations) to show their fitness either as a gene donor or potential parent depending on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/23 12:19 AM
1	Western Women, how much of a turn on is it for you if a guy is rich? Being rich isn't what is attractive to many women (maybe to some gold diggers but is that what you really want?) What is attractive is some of the attitudes and characteristics that may result in a man (or woman) being able to build wealth: career goals, type A personality, driven, forward thinking, attitude toward their gf/wife (ie just arm candy or a true egalitarian partner) financial acumen, ability to delay current gratification for the long term big picture. Essentially, being put together…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/23 12:06 AM
1	Q4W: Do you believe/know/think that your grandmothers have never loved your grandfathers? One my others side my grandparents truly loved each other. They were like the couple in UP and were married for like 50 years. On my dads side my grandma ended up bitter and resentful of my grandfather. They tolerated each other but stayed in separate bedrooms for as long as I remember. It was palpable enough that even us as little kids could feel it. Divorce wasn’t really a thing. They were Catholic Mexican Americans.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 02:13 AM
1	How are short man supposed to date? I agree it's harder to date as a short dude. You have to bring a lot more to the table. That being said, all but one short man I know is happily married. My dad is 5'3, my brothers are about 5'5, and I know several professional men in the 5'3-5'8 category that are all married to very attractive, also professional women. One key is that all the short married men I know are successful and outgoing. Even though I married a 5'11 guy (I'm 5'1) I think my son is going to end up being 5'5 to 5'8 so I a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 06:36 PM
6	For men dating is basically a series of job interviews. Sure, finding out what a potential mates job is and how they feel about it is VERY important and says a lot about the person you are talking to. A second great "interview" question is what that persons relationships with their family members are. These types of questions quickly weed out incompatibility. For example, I have a professional degree and value my career. When I was dating, it was important to know that the man also was passionate about career and was not just working at GameStop or b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 05:50 PM
21	CMV: The female expectation of looking physically attractive is way, WAY more easier than the male expectation of being a provider. The female expectation of being attractive AND being able to cook, clean, care for the kids, also now bring an income, being emotionally supportive, empathetic, sexually available, fit, stable, mentally healthy..... Both sexes need to bring certain things to the table, sometimes the same things and sometimes complimentary things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 07:20 PM
5	Could it be that women just do not like men that much? Love good men. Married to one. Father and brothers and male cousins are good men. My son is being raised to be a good man. I don’t like man babies, entitled men, men who think women are an accessory and not fully fledged human beings. Don’t like men who would fuck with my reproductive rights. Don’t like men who don’t bring shit to the table in a relationship and expect a mommy bang maid. Fortunately there are still some good men out there. They will reproduce and a lot of the rest of the men wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/23 08:32 PM
2	CMV: In today's age, men are expected to take on both the feminine AND the masculine roles in a relationship, while women are only expected to take on the feminine roles. Um this is not true at all. First of all these “gender” roles can be socially constructed. For example, There is no reason fixing shit around the house doing the household finances has to be gendered. Just like caring for one’s offspring shouldn’t be gendered Believe me, almost all women I know are taking on “masculine roles.” They are buying houses on their own, getting professional degrees/working full time, fixing shit, managing their own finances etc. There may be some women especially at th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 12:48 AM
1	Do you think a man wanting his woman to remain physically fit in a relationship is a reasonable thing to want? It’s reasonable as long as the same applies to the man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/23 05:15 PM
1	It's exhausting to make female friends I think having sisters, female cousins, and female coworkers that you get on well with, speak well of and interact with on a social level counts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/23 06:03 PM
3	Q4W: Do you ever purposely wipe a smile off your face upon making eye contact with a man? Fuck yes. The mental calculation is that I don’t want this dude to think I’m interested in him. I don’t want to be approached by him. Most of us have had experiences where men seem to think a natural polite smile or basic polite conversation is an invitation to hit on us. This is not necessarily all the time in every situation. Often it’s just when we don’t want to deal with bullshit or maybe in a vulnerable position like on public transportation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/23 05:32 PM
1	Do you like the opposite gender? I love most men. My dad is amazing and have amazing brothers and male cousins. Had a a really close guy friend when I was an uggo in high school and college (he was way better looking than me and not my friend to get in my pants) Some of the men I dated were users and jerks or just not that interested in me. My husband is really a top notch fella. My social circles and dating past mostly involve upper middle class dudes who seem to be way better socialized than the typical men most gals in their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 11:54 PM
1	What should young men in their 20s who don't do hookups do to (eventually) find a likeminded partner? 1.) Be a part of a religious community in which members share these types of values 2.) Go to college, avoid the shut in STEM fields and focus on professional fields that result in some clout and good financial gain (medicine, law, criminal justice, finance etc). The goal is to aim for the Professional Managerial Class (PMC.) College is 60% female. Interact with women in these fields, especially after graduation. Don't worry so much about what these women did in college as women with bachelor's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/23 10:42 PM
0	if dating is so dangerous for women why do they do it at all? Most women enjoy good sex where pleasure for BOTH parties is a goal. However the cost for sex for us is high: risk of coercion/abuse, pregnancy, STDs, social stigma of being perceived as a high N count slut etc It’s not that we don’t love sex it’s that we have to choose our sex partners very wisely. Especially if we actually want to have an orgasm or two.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/23 08:07 PM
2	[Q4W] Which of these two fine gentlemen would you prefer being in a relationship with? Lol. Neither. I choose my pets.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/23 05:53 PM
–	Societal contribution and reproductive access. I lost 125 pounds. I was borderline anti social. Terrible dresser. Had binge eating disorder. I took some unhealthy meds initially during my transformation which could have fucked up my heat (phen phen) Sure there are some dudes that genetically have it worse. I at least have high intelligence and a high drive to succeed and once I lost weight had a good 8/10 face. But I was also left with pancake boobs and a shit ton of sagging skin. So no. I don’t think I had it easier then the majority of men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/23 05:42 PM
7	Societal contribution and reproductive access. I looksmaxxed and personality maxed while finishing graduate school and then with a full time busy career. It took me two years. It was hard work but absolutely worth it as I was able to date better and better men the more weight I lost and more confidence I gained. It wasn’t fucking rocket science. Became a gym girl, learned how to be confident and learned how to present myself better. If someone can’t better themselves over a couple of years, with only work/school as their obligations then the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/23 09:42 PM
3	Circumcision is unfair. Mother here. I had to do a lot of convincing and fight against family norms to keep my son intact. While perhaps physically not as damaging as FGM, circumcision is still genital mutilation on someone who cannot consent. My flawless logic won out and if my son wants it done at some point when he’s 18 or older I’ll pay for the best surgeon we can find. I hope someday the practice will be banned (along with puberty blockers and trans surgeries on minors)	/r/MensRights	08/01/23 12:28 AM
1	If there is one thing that Purge Week has taught me Lol the memes and shit posts this week do not get engagement because they are boring and lame. I come here to debate reasonable people with different viewpoint. I just pass all these dumb posts by this week and hope purge is over soon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 05:42 AM
1	Silicon human size dolls are now made really realistically, and better looking than biological women, imagine when they are integrated with AI into cute fembot girlfriends, KO for women That’s awesome. The losers that buy these dolls will never have their genes passed on. A win for society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/23 04:34 PM
1	What’s the most disheartening thing you’ve seen in your local dating market You are very consumed with looks. People, even a model, are entire human beings. It could be true that she is superficial and went for looks but it could also be true that they both actually just really like each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 09:55 PM
5	What’s the most disheartening thing you’ve seen in your local dating market She probably felt your “meh” vibes about her and moved on with life. She may or may not be a good fit with her new guy but thankfully she ditched you, the person who just thought she was plain and average. You should look at women holistically. You describe mostly her looks and not anything else she brings to the table.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/22 09:02 PM
2	Does anyone else feel like feminism has ruined a generation of women for dating? Well said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 09:37 PM
1	Do women have their own version of “self improvement”? Absolutely. I was very overweight my teen and young adult life. 249 at my heaviest (5’1) I was awkward, nerdy and let myself be taken advantage of by low quality men who just wanted to use me because my self esteem was so low. Well after finishing graduate school, losing weight over the course of two years, and becoming a more confident person, dressing better, being forced in my career to become personable, I dated higher and higher quality men until I met my husband at 29, be best looking, bes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 06:19 PM
2	Women who are married or in a LTR; were you "keeping your options open" when dating your now-partner? Nope. When I met my hubby he was hands down the best guy in all parameters I had ever dated (after a long journey of losing weight and leveling up.) We were inseparable from day one of meeting. And 17 total years together we are still super happy. Still have lots of great sex and through our partnership we have become wealthy and produced two great kids. I’m on this sub because it interests me after my own leveling up process in which I was able to date higher and higher quality men. PS - he nev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 08:50 PM
0	This is the worst time in human history to be dating. Lol. Try the vast majority of human history as being the worst time to “date” for women. Oh wait. We didn’t really get to date who we wanted. We got sold, bartered and coerced into being with men we didn’t want. Still happens in many places on this planet. Women get a modicum of real dating and mating power where we actually get to be the choosers as nature intended and the bottom quartile of males with poor prospects and poor genes have a melt down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/22 09:22 PM
1	Are chubby girls more forgiving when it comes to a mans LOOKS? I was very overweight (249 as 5’1 female) and absolutely my standards for looks and just general quality were far less at the time. I had poor self esteem and any sort of attention from any male made me interested in them. I was definitely used and taken advantage of in my willingness to please and accept low quality. This was at the beginning of social media and getting to know people online but before Tinder. Once I began losing weight and maximizing my personality and career, my standards wen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/22 08:33 PM
9	What does a modern woman bring to a relationship? Companionship, partnership, parenting, financial stability (duel income), someone to grow old with, someone to be there when you are sick. Someone to share some of your hobbies with. Someone to go to concerts and movies with. Someone to travel with. Not every relationship works out long term and some end up in emotional or financial trauma. But most relationships have some of the above good parts. It’s sad that you must not have anyone in your life that models a good relationship. And as a “mode…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 01:15 AM
3	why are most feminists so against sex work? In the vast many of cases, sex work is a net negative for women. Exposure to STDs, violence, trafficking, rape, pregnancy, and limits their future prospects in a different career. Sex work is often a career of last resort. These women do not enjoy being penetrated by strangers. Would you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/22 05:01 PM
1	The decline in quality relationships is just a reflection of an increase in human freedom. Not necessarily a negative. I think you may be misinterpreting quality relationships. Relationships were not quality when women were forced into marriages because they had no other options. Women have been (and still are on third world countries) chattel, a resource to be traded, sold, and won. So I would redefine your premise to the decline in forced/coerced relationships is a result of womens freedom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/22 01:55 AM
3	The average man have no represantation in romance movie that target women When Harry Met Sally and Long Shot with Seth rogan and Charlize Theron. Steve Carrell 40 year old virgin. The men in those movies are a average at best. I don’t remember the movie names but also Tom hanks, John causak, Paul Rudd, Adam Sandler… And dude nearly all the women in all movies are super hot and even if they start out as the “ugly duckling” they end up transforming to hot popular chicks. Movies are not real life. And for the most part I don’t want to see an average Joe schlub in my ente…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/22 12:19 AM
1	Nevermind red flags, what's your biggest yellow flag? Bad relationships with their parents/siblings and/or overbearing potential in laws	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/22 10:38 PM
0	CMV: The Empathizing-Systemizing theory explains why women here are so dismissive of empirical research on sex, dating, and relationships. Some of us may also be better at reading and understanding the poor quality studies posted to this site. Here are some problems with some of the studies and how they are interpreted 1.) too small of sample size 2.) biased sample (ie - college students invited to participate in surveys/tests for credit or money) - not representative of the general population of women 3.) "studies" based on survey data, especially survey data collected from people on the internet 4.) studies not being truly random…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/22 10:52 PM
2	How many of you or your friends would be open to a sugar relationship? No one I know, friends, family, or acquaintances would be in that sort of relationship. My husband had a few high level white collar management coworkers who married very hot, non college educated 10 year younger working class women. Even those women continued to work after getting married though. One was a hair dresser and started her own business and the other helped her husband start his own business after he left his management position. I don't think most women want sugar relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/22 06:50 PM
1	CMV: It’s a sign of extreme inequality that women facilitating sex work is seen as more and more publicly acceptable, but men using the services of a sex worker is just as taboo for men as its always been Perhaps in certain liberal social circles but that is not the majority of the country. Women are shamed for sex work. They loose their jobs over only fans accounts (there was a nurse in NY and several teachers.) sex work follows women forever especially if there is a digital record. In person sex work opens them up to STDs, violence and pregnancy. You may see some vocal retarded lib fems on Reddit or twitter saying sex work is work and you will see real feminists supporting women who are in the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/22 12:00 AM
1	Women who sexually like men, are you personally not that visually stimulated by our bodies? Very visually attracted to my husband and to males with a fit, well manscaped body. Some hair is fine. Just no jungle. I find lean to moderate musculature enticing. A key point to physical, visual desire in women: be well groomed with good hygiene. Ideally somewhat fit although a lot of us are ok with "dad bods"	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 08:39 PM
7	Even women well into their 30s and 40s think they can afford to be insanely selective, often even more so than younger far more attractive girls ok and? By that age, women know what they want. They are confident enough not to accept less and confident enough to know if they do not get what they want, living alone is fine. Why settle for man babies that think they are "run through?" lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 08:32 PM
5	Why is porn hated by so many women? I agree. I do not like any exploitation of males or females in so called “sex work.” Only fans is a farce used to exploit males and the girls who post stuff making almost no money while it all goes to some corporate bro. Meanwhile that can girl who made a few hundred bucks at 19 will now have that video possibly follow her for the rest of her life if she tries to have a regular or professional job. And loser dude who spent his money to fap to her is now poorer and probably doesn’t feel good abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 07:38 PM
6	Why is porn hated by so many women? It’s misogynistic, explorative and an unrealistic portrayal of sex and bodies that has no net benefit to women and likely none to men (hello ED.) It elicits an intense dopamine response that when used in excess dulls over time to require higher levels of unnatural stimulation to achieve the same response. Just like some people can use substances in moderation, some men can use porn in moderation but many don’t. There are countless threads on the harmful effect of porn overuse in a relationship. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 05:43 PM
1	According to a 2020 study, the rate of 18- to 24 year old men who had no sex in the past year jumped from 18.9% in 2002 to 30.9% in 2018, while women's respective rate only went from 15.1% to 19.1%. This confirms the recent trend that women are having more sex with the same men. Churches. Service groups. Hiking groups. Various hobby groups. Take some community college classes and find social events there. Hobby lobby classes. Mixed sex martial arts classes. (Jujitsu is a popular one around here and the classes are mixed sex and age)	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/22 09:37 PM
7	According to a 2020 study, the rate of 18- to 24 year old men who had no sex in the past year jumped from 18.9% in 2002 to 30.9% in 2018, while women's respective rate only went from 15.1% to 19.1%. This confirms the recent trend that women are having more sex with the same men. Socioeconomic disadvantaged and unsocialized men in this age range have easy access to porn and video games which are dominating their free time. I would bet the majority of men who are getting no sex in this age range are also not going out to socialize, not engaging in hobbies or interests that will bring them in contact with females, and may not have jobs or be in college with a lot of women. This is not womens fault. This is a failure of society. Society which is controlled at all levels of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/22 11:51 PM
5	Q4W: What would you change to improve things for men? 1.) A required 1 year national service program that mixes genders and social classes. This service program would offer collage and trade credit and be in a variety of areas of service such as forestry, mentoring youth, interacting with and creating programs for elderly, construction projects, helping with environmental and scientific studies, military options etc. 2.) Healthcare for all. Decouple healthcare from work so people do not feel tied into shitty jobs just for healthcare. Increase avail…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/22 06:32 PM
7	How does dating survive if more women are so picky? Have you been outside? To Walmart? To the beach? I see fugly ass dudes and chubby/fat dudes with women of varying attractiveness every place I go. This is not to say all incel concerns are invalid. There is a huge segment of the young male population that is checked out for a lot of reasons having more to do with the stratification of the economy, the ready availability of porn, video games and cheap shitty food. There are limited opportunities for young uneducated men to gain the economic stabi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/22 10:51 PM
5	Why do some women want an equal relationship but a dominating man in bed? Surprisingly accurate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/22 11:36 PM
2	Are men capable of raising kids by themselves? Single parents of either gender can make it work, especially with a large kin support network. A two parent household with half way decent adults on average is most optimal. However if you are committed to being a parent, that your kid is first and foremost in your life it is absolutely possible. I love the idea of men being adoptive parents for kids who would be left in the foster care system which is the worst place for kids. Especially men adopting boys. This is true altruism. I am less thril…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/22 01:52 AM
13	Do some women don't mind being a single mother? It depends more on the MAN involved my friend. Women would rather be single mothers than be attached to a man baby, cheater, abuser, minimal income, non helpful drag. It’s hard enough being a mom. We want and deserve partners. There is no mother I know who would rather be single when there is a good man (or woman) to partner with	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/22 10:07 PM
9	Women's standards are giving men body dysmorphia Welcome to the club men. I’ve had body dysmorphia my whole life due to weight issues. Most women I know have had or have body dysmorphia due to incessant commercialization and commodification of the female form for all of human history.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/22 08:28 PM
6	Q4W: Would you be mad if a man you liked a lot made you wait for sex? Probably wouldn’t wait until marriage. I’d be worried he’s hiding ED, gay, mismatched libidos, or micropeen. However I’d have been ok waiting for 6-12 months. As long as I could check out his skills in the sack a few months before the final commitment that would be cool. And even if he did have some size/performance issues if he met all my other high criteria AND he made a concerted effort to address his bedroom issues/provided excellent orgasms through other means it might not be a deal breaker…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/22 02:13 AM
8	Small/Big Dick Energy: what personality traits do women associate with penis size? Great point. This is junk science. Sample size too small and it isn’t randomized. It was a sample of volunteers who got college credit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/22 10:06 PM
1	Small/Big Dick Energy: what personality traits do women associate with penis size? Small sample size AND selection bias toward collage women who voluntarily took participated for college credit. I don’t think one can infer much from this at all. Folks need to get better at looking at how studies are performed, who they are the subjects and what are the sample sizes. This is not even a randomized study of college girls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/22 10:02 PM
7	What is a "high value" male? Lol. No. A HVM is one that has his shit together. Good job. Good social skills. Someone who will be equally invested in the relationship and fair division of household chores and child rearing. This does not necessarily mean 50/50 - it means fairly agreed upon. Some gals may think the hot fuckboi is HV. It’s often not until we are older that we understand what true HV is. Same for men. Some Men may view the super hot, young (but emotionally unstable/selfish/gold digger) as desirable. With maturi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/22 08:08 PM
1	Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman. Look to his family background. Are his parents together and how does his father treat his mother and his daughters. Also socioeconomic and educational status. How he treats and interacts service people, friends. How he speaks about previous relationships (This is In addition to obvious red flags like controlling behavior, abusive language, dismissal of womens rights, reproductive and career rights)	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/22 06:08 PM
3	Why are married people on here? What do you get out of this? Ya’ll are endlessly fascinating. I have a background and interest in sociobiology and sexually evolutionary bio. I also had my own leveling up journey. I have a happy 15 year marriage and sometimes like to share my wisdom or scorn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/22 04:12 AM
3	Why shouldn't men be the catch in relationships? I agree. To achieve maximum fitness and survival in offspring, having a two parent household is optimum. This is why females need to be very selective because men have less evolutionary pressure to remain in a monogamous relationship to help rear those children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/22 03:49 PM
3	“Women make their own money now” The point when we say this is that historically we were not even allowed to have our own bank accounts and careers and independent lives. Of course it’s much more beneficial to have a two parent and at least a 1.5 income household. It’s arguable if a two income 40hour x2 work week is the best for early child rearing. Many women are out earning men. 60% of college graduates now are women and will be drastically out earning many working class men. Generally us collage graduates start making bank a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/22 03:43 PM
3	Why shouldn't men be the catch in relationships? This is not how mammalian sexual selection works. Fundamentally, biologically, sex is expensive for females and cheap for males. This is a driver of our evolution for 100k + years. Females need to be choosy. Those that are the best at choosing have the best chance at getting their genes in the next generation. We are wired to mate/pair bond with those males that either provide the best chance at helping with child rearing and/or those that seem to have the optimum genetics. Men are wired to spre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/22 02:42 AM
1	Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men? Unsure who your social circle encompasses. Of course many men from shit backgrounds do get sex and have relationships. Statistically men and women from "shit" backgrounds (eg lower class, broken homes, substance abuse, violence) have more long term problems forming and keeping LTRs. This doesn't mean it cant happen. But it also means that these folks, on average, will fair poorly in the marriage department. I would have you perform an exercise - look up photos on your MDs, dentists, lawyers, acc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/22 07:54 PM
4	Opinion: Andrew Tate was a net positive overall I hope you realize you are getting a very biased sample. Vast majority of users on here are men. So how could you ever know if his advice is a net positive? I have not gone down the rabbit hole. I have seen some out of context quotes about beating and abusing women and keeping them in check. Thats enough for me to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Anyone who can say such things is no deserving of my respect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/22 07:41 PM
5	Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men? I think women often have closer family and friendship ties. When the proposition is marry/LTR someone who is not value added to their lives (for example: is not egalitarian, doesn’t split house work/child care in an equal manner, makes less money, is less emotionally available, doesn’t care about her sexual pleasure, is a porn/video game addict) - why tie yourself down with that? For the time being we can have a career, home, pets, even kids if we want. No man babies need apply. I say this as a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/22 07:30 PM
1	Treating your partner different Perhaps in some cases. In my case my so called SMV went up as I got towed 30. I glowed up. Lost 125 pounds. Became much more selective in my dating pool. Gained a career and social skills and pulled me a 9 that I’m married to after 15 years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/22 09:47 PM
0	What is something you genuinely find 'weird' and don't understand in modern dating/relationship/gender world? Yes. Unfortunately (for women on a personal level) male mating strategy resulting in natural selection includes rape and polygamy. I believe there was a bottle neck in genetics after genghis khans reign at the expense of more diverse genetics because he and his progeny dominated the region and era. Eugenics is defined as a scientific process of manipulating reproduction for a specific end goal. Natural selection is based gender specific mating strategies which enhance the chance of one’s genes g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/22 09:42 PM
1	Treating your partner different Or, hear me out, - one was in the mood/head space for a quick fuck, no strings attached and wasn't interested in a relationship at that time. When we (humans) are young, this scenario can happen! <shocked pikachu face> Then perhaps, when we are older, we want to vet someone for long term material before jumping in the sack.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/22 07:44 PM
1	What is something you genuinely find 'weird' and don't understand in modern dating/relationship/gender world? The consequences of mate selection bias toward specific traits (attractiveness, intelligence, dominant personalities, resource acquiring skills, social position) is literally evolution of an advanced, intelligent species, dominant species. If anything, women are not being choosy enough these days because there are resources and less social pressure to mate in the best interest of their offspring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/22 05:13 PM
0	What is something you genuinely find 'weird' and don't understand in modern dating/relationship/gender world? Wait- I thought women all ended up “settling” for betas? So isn’t that exactly what you want? For us to figure out at some point that we don’t have to strive for perfection instead of good enough?? For the record evolutionarily female reproductive strategy dictates that women should mate with the best available partner (what characteristics individual decides is best may vary)	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/22 04:11 PM
2	Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzone If you are friends with this girls, you should ask them honestly what you can do to be of more interest to women in general. Don’t act weird like you are trying to get in their pants…. Just something along the lines of “hey can I ask you something honestly? I’m having trouble with women in general. Do you think there is something I can improve on?” Some girls will demur and some may be truthful. Most high value guys I know (and as a professional I know a lot) are excellent communicators AND they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/22 10:23 PM
2	What percentage of people within your dating age range do you find attractive enough to sleep with? What percentage do you find attractive enough to have a relationship with? F 45. Married. In good physical and financial and emotional shape for my age group. For sex in my AGE 3% or less. (If we are talking 25-50 I’d say 5-8%) For LTR 1% or less. I’m married to my 1% I was able to get pretty picky after I lost 125 lbs, glowed up and got a career.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/22 05:02 PM
5	what do men get wrong about women have so many optionn and can sleep with a lot of different men? I think what men get wrong is that you think that the goal of the majority of single women is to sleep with lots of different men. Most single women I know are NOT looking for this at all. Most have stopped using OLD because of horrible experiences. I know several that are good looking and have just stopped putting themselves out there. It is true that their standards are pretty high. But they would rather just stay home with their friends, families and pets then be with a guy who doesn’t meet t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/22 06:53 PM
1	To men who want biological children: It might be better to pay a surrogate than to have children with a woman. What do you think? I strongly agree that it’s not, on average, in the best interest of the child to have a single parent. Just a mother or just a father. I think a lot of research supports stable two parent homes. For stable gay couples I would say the benefits are probably similar to a heterosexual couple but that is gut feeling. I’d need to see some research. I question the judgment of a single person having a kid without a very very strong financial, kin and support network to offset the disadvantages. I think …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/22 09:49 PM
2	To men who want biological children: It might be better to pay a surrogate than to have children with a woman. What do you think? I think you underestimate the amount of work and commitment and cost it takes to raise a well adjusted child. Especially as a single parent. Surrogacy is not very common and it is not common that women want to rent their uteruses out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/22 07:28 PM
5	Is it hard to admit that you weren’t dateable when you were younger? I was a fat undatable introvert gaming nerd up until graduate school. 5’1f 249 lb. I never got any attention from guys. Felt terrible about my body. Managed to at least get one boyfriend in under grad. Never resented the disinterest or friend zoning. I Internalized since I was a kid that I was a gross fatty cuz I ate too much. Not anyone else’s fault. The most of the infrequent interest I got was from guys who just wanted hook ups but would never consider me dating material. I finally got my shi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/22 03:49 AM
1	Women always want something new with one man; men always want the same thing with someone new Pithy sayings do not equal reality. This may be your individual experience but I doubt this equals a truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/22 02:30 AM
1	CMV, Sex is an essential part of a long term relationship, without it relationships lose their love and end badly. He gets it. I meant from a purely anatomical/ physical proposition it takes him a min 48 hours and usually 72 hours between busting a nut for him to be able to cum again. It would prob be 24 hours if we didn’t have such hectic lifestyles. In practice this means sex about 2x per week. I could go every other day to every 3 days even with our currently lifestyle. Daily if I had no responsibilities and great sleep! My hubs is a hottie and a generous lover who lives by “she comes first.” I love sex w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/22 12:09 AM
1	CMV, Sex is an essential part of a long term relationship, without it relationships lose their love and end badly. I’m in a 15 year marriage. Yes sex and intimacy is important to most LTRs. Often if you are matched age wise, libido decreases for both as you age. The old trope of the woman being the problem most of the time is probably not true. Deadbedrooms/Reddit is heavily skewed male so that’s not a good sample. A lot of things can get in the way of regular sex tho: work, poor health, relationship issues, poor diet, childcare, one partner doing most of the childcare/home care, one partner not taking the t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/22 10:10 PM
7	Women here, what advice would you give to your sons going into dating? I don’t think an 11 year old can consent to HGH. Or puberty blockers or circumcision. It not my decision or choice to alter his body.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 01:54 AM
13	Women here, what advice would you give to your sons going into dating? My son is 11. He will be very good looking but short. Prob 5’6 or so. I lift weights. Already teaching him. Stressing school and a professional career. He is pretty normal in terms is how he acts socially. He’s in honors and should breeze through school. College is 60% female now and may even be higher when he goes. Not too worried he won’t find a good girl because we are aiming him straight into the professional managerial class. I don’t know any professional men, short, bald, average looking e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/22 09:33 PM
3	What do successful and educated men (lawyers, doctors, men in finance) look for in a partner I my hubs (he worked in upper level management at a Fortune 500 co at the time) went for me after marrying and divorcing a gold digging unstable super hot chick. He almost fits the 6-6-6 thing red pullers talk about. Prob a 8-9/10 looks wise. We have been married for 15 years. He specifically went for me because I had my own professional career, I’m huge into fitness after loosing a bunch of weight. I’m pretty cute but don’t have a perfect body after 125 pound weight loss. We shared common caree…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 09:32 PM
1	The other sex really is the opposition. Yes. Both things can be true at once my friend. most people throughout time have been subjected to the whims of others. I would argue as a woman that our subjugation has been worse and more persistent with less opportunities to overcome our circumstances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 08:30 PM
1	The other sex really is the opposition. I agree. All genital mutilation of minors is wrong. My son is not circumcised and I had to do major convincing of my husband to allow this. Also a lot of my family thinks it’s weird I didn’t chop my kids foreskin off. Wrong is wrong. Non consensual non medical alteration of a minors body is wrong. There are a growing number of people to understand this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 08:28 PM
0	Women of PPD, if you had a son... Why is there no in between?? People’s personalities and behavior are on a spectrum. I have a 11 year old son. He will be very good looking but short. I’m 5’1. My hubby is 5’11. Unfortunately my boy is in the 30th percentile for hight. My daughter has capped out at my hight. My guess is he will be 5’6 ish. I would never want my son to be a fuck boi. Even if he was as tall as hubby. Being a fuck boi will not lead to a happy stable life usually. I am teaching him some of the core TRP stuff that is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 02:07 AM
9	The other sex really is the opposition. Lol. It’s not a theory. Look at Afghanistan, counties in Africa with FGM. Look at the historical records of husbands selling their wives in Europe. Look at our laws in America that didn’t allow us to vote or own property or a bank account. How many women historically have ever been in political or religious positions of power and decision making. How is this a feminist perspective? This is history. How long have women been able to actually choose the path they want? Most women have been relegate…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 10:08 PM
12	The other sex really is the opposition. Pre sexual revolution was a ceasefire? You mean for all of agrarian and industrial history where we were and still are (in many places) treated as chattel with no or limited autonomy? Where we were/are sold off to men we didn’t have a choice in? Forced to have sex we didn’t want with men we were forced to marry? Where we couldn’t own shit and were just there to reproduce? That ceasefire? Hardly I do agree that the rules of the game changed drastically for those of us lucky enough to live in soci…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 07:41 PM
1	(The elephant in the room) Why a fun sex life and a stable long term monogamous relationship can't occur together. The madonna-whore complex applied to IRL Married 15 years and our sex life is as good as ever if just slightly less frequent due to HIS refractory time at 46. If anything, it’s better because we know what each other likes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/22 05:09 AM
1	Do BJs and the frequency of sex decline after marriage? I’m sure it’s very couple dependent, age dependent and health status dependent. I’m 45 f and have always had a slightly higher drive then hubby if 15 years. Frequency has gone down to 1-2x per week in our 40s mostly due to him having a longer refractory time and us running a business and having tween kids. I think for men and women libido and frequently drops with age. There are plenty of women in dead bedrooms too. My thoughts on oral : probably those guys were not reciprocating head. If we are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 05:07 AM
1	Would you rather have a loving husband? Or guaranted 2,000 USD a month for the next 18 years? A loving husband. I make my own money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 02:51 AM
3	Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive? I’m in the professional class. 100% this. All successful professional men I know fit the majority of these characteristics. Some of them are short and average looking but all have good looking and mostly professional wives/ significant others and generally stable relationships. It’s a tall order but this is the gold standard male.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 01:15 AM
3	What’s the solution? Wow. One of the best answers I’ve seen on here. I can attest that class is a HUGE factor in the current dating market. I am firmly PMC (professional managerial class) born, raised and now practiced. People in the PMC and elite classes rarely struggle to find mates and generally have lower divorce rates. How many average looking male dentists or MDs do you know who DONT have a decent if not hot wife? How many female doctors or lawyers do you know that have kids out of wedlock and are on social me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/22 08:29 PM
4	Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why? Dating is not now nor ever has been “fair” for anyone. Evolution is not fair. Hypergamy is the natural state for mammalian females who have large, expensive gametes and bear the brunt of rearing offspring. We have evolved over millennia to try to choose men based on characteristics that increase offspring survivability to pass on our genes. (I say try because for all of human history men have controlled our bodies to insure paternity.) These are are natural evolutionary pressures. Heaven forbid …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/22 11:48 PM
5	Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect? Hmm. Not really. I hold some radical feminist views. Especially when it comes to sex based safe spaces (I’m a TERF) for women and absolute reproductive control of our bodies and true agency for women. I also believe that the newer liberal feminist movement has harmed women with their “sex positive” views and support of sex work and porn and that they kinda look down on traditional/biological females roles and desires. I am feminist I suppose, in my understanding of historical patriarchy that has…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/22 07:50 PM
3	Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect? Would not date. He has different priorities that are not compatible with what I would seek in a mate (confident, successful, egalitarian, educated, similar political and life philosophies) Men already have most of the rights. We do and have lived all time in a patriarchy. Now if he advocates for self improvement and being the best person he can be (and that all PEOPLE should be their best selves) that is a different story. You can be that that dude without being the whiny, woe is me, women are o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/22 07:41 PM
1	Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of men Lol you purple pill boys are an endless source of amusement for me. Downvoted for stating the truth. She may or may not be a catch. That is not the point. Even the shittiest person, male or female can make their own choices and change their minds and behavior at any time. This is the point of a free society. There are also consequences for our choices. So dude is free to move on if he doesn’t accept the girls past history. That would be a consequence of her past behavior. She could also be a won…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/22 07:24 PM
-4	Dating spaces gaslight the absolutely living shit out of men Her body her choice. All the comments left you mention could be true. We are allowed to have agency. We are allowed to have different standards for men we want to have fun with vs men we might want to be with long term. You all should stop your bitching. You and that dude have agency also. If she’s not that into you if you don’t like her different standards. Find.a.new.partner. Many on here dislike (but want to fuck) promiscuous women and also hate it when a gal decides not to be promiscuous or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/22 07:26 PM
12	Would you wait to have sex until a relationship is formed? This chick should ditch you ASAP. Having two side pieces is a HUGE red flag. Good for her for setting boundaries. Hopefully you will not lie. She should move on to someone who reciprocates her caring and thoughtful behavior. All I can hope for is that you are trolling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/22 05:30 AM
1	What is it about erotica that makes you gravitate towards it vs other kinds of porn? Slow burn. Lots of tension and work up before any acts even take place. Also always the male is intelligent, macho, super hot, usually alpha, loving, and often becomes emotionally available. Visual porn is so rapid and doesn’t really tickle all the parts in the mind that most women need to become aroused. Also most of the dudes are hideous looking in porn. It’s almost always written from female perspective so we can also understand that everything happening is consensual even with the BDSM stuff	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/22 08:59 PM
6	Giving woman your own age a chance why? Uhhh… most of the successful professional men I know (a lot) or have known at that age prefer a woman close to their age with similar career aspirations and financial goals. About 25% prefer younger trad wife. So far the marriage and financial success rate of all similar age professional couples I know become very well off. Statistically these are the marriages that are likely to succeed. Also most professionals are working toward their goals through their twenties and are not looking for seriou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 01:50 AM
2	How big of a deal breaker is sharing your man? Nope. 100% deal breaker.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/22 07:45 PM
2	Question for the women on here & I want you to genuinely think about it rather than impulsively answering. I empathize with the fact that it is nearly impossible to get a middle or upper middle class job without a collage degree anymore thanks to our political class, corporations and globalization. Men who have access to a high(ish) paying job have more stability and ability to provide for a family and are more desirable partners. Big tech, big Pharma, big food our political leadership and elites are all conspiring to keep low wage work the primary option and to sate mens appetites with shitty food, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/22 11:47 PM
3	No "issues" presented by TRP are solvable without also compromising the idea that women deserve equal rights to men. First off, I do not agree with your statement that it’s is a problem that women given agency are the sexual selectors. This is biology and hypergamy. So no. I do not acknowledge that it is a problem lower and mid “value” men are having trouble in the dating market or that it is our fault. We are using the new tools available to us to follow our biological imperative to mate with the highest value partner we can find. Females are the choosers in most species. If anything, our ability to choose ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/22 11:43 PM
2	Are men really worthless? Men and women ideally should complement each-other in a monogamous relationship. This provides the most stability for rearing offspring. There are other mating strategies of course but this provides the most benefit to the most individuals and society most of the time. Egalitarian relationships in modern western society would be the gold standard morally and reproductively. Egalitarian is a mutually agreed upon division of labor including finances, emotional, child rearing and home care. This do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/22 08:11 PM
2	Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for men I think you misinterpret getting dates and sex on OLD with what most women want - a stable LTR, generally egalitarian, with a high quality male in most parameters we care about - this is hard to come by. Especially for those of us women in the upper middle class and upper class w degrees and careers. Any one of us can get shitty low quality sex and dates. Getting beyond that can be very tricky. This is not to downplay your concerns. Because it can be hard for a lower quality male to get their fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/22 07:49 PM
1	Question for woman: Who is the "highest value man" who has pursued you? My husband. A local 9. Probably an 8 if you put him up against pro athletes and models. Fit and athletic (was running marathons when I met him) College educated. 90k a year job when we met. Egalitarian. Had a home and a nice car. 5’11. Great lover. You can look at previous posts for my stats but let’s just say I leveled myself up to be a match for someone like him. Still married 15 years later.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/22 07:47 PM
3	Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman? Of course women will have higher standards than men on average. This is evolutionary bio 101. We have large expensive gametes and pregnancy and then bear the brunt of raising offspring. Most mammalian and avian females are the choosers because of this. It is in our evolutionary best interest to be picky. Females that choose poorly have a lower chance of getting their genes into the next gen. Hence there is selective pressure for this behavior. In males, gametes are cheap and their commitment to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/22 05:15 AM
1	Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"? I think that the widening divide of the PMC (professional managerial class) and elites vs the working class will get worse. Those in power have zero incentive to lift the lower class up or enforce laws/social programs and redistribution in a fair manner. They were too busy shipping middle class manufacturing jobs overseas and tanking our economy with covid restrictions. Working class men and women marry less. Have unstable lifestyles and often have kids out of wedlock who will never have the opp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/22 01:47 AM
1	Q4W: We always hear about 50/50 vs men paying 100% but what about 80/20? Initially the man should pay for the majority of most dates to signal interest. After that, most women want a egalitarian relationship. This does not mean equal in every minute detail, it means splitting time, resources, emotional labor, careers, child and home care in a manner that is mutually agreed upon in a way that works the best for that couple. Could be tradition SAH mom, could be dad stays home, could be finances exactly equal or proportional to income and overall work load. Over my marr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/22 07:18 PM
3	How were you treated differently when you got fit? (men and women) I was treated the same in general after losing 100 pounds. But the interest level and quality of men I was able to date (and eventually marry) drastically improved the more weight I lost. A smaller factor was that I also gained confidence and started a well paying career. Another side effect - I personally became much more selective in my preferences the better I became as an overall package. One of the reasons I’m on this sub and studied more evolutionary bio is because I was fascinated in my o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/22 07:06 PM
1	Are men naturally polygamous? All men naturally have the strategy of being polygamous as an option. Over our evolutionary history, the reason we are so successful as a species is our high adaptability. Men have essentially 3 strategies for getting there genes into the next generation: monogamy (+ - cheating), polygyny, or rape. Which they choose depends on cultural, environmental settings, their history/experiences/upbringing and their own social status. Monogamy is often the preferred strategy for most men and for societies…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/22 01:58 AM
1	Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negated Bro I got a life so I’m not gonna sit here and argue point my point. But you are so off base. A women literally brings the most valuable asset of humanity to the table. The ability to bare your children. And the ability to nurse and raise those children. Perhaps you should read or watch Children of Men. Your devaluation of the life giving half of the human race is sad. The fact that we have this gift AND we are intelligent and can be fruitful humans beyond our wombs appears lost on you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/22 06:07 PM
7	CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control over Dude this is literally how mating in humans works. Men have cheap sperm and do not have to invest in their offspring and need to cast their nets wide to ensure getting their genes in the next gen. Also they didn’t know historically if children were even theirs. In a majority of cases, ultimately monogamy will give the best chance of average men to succeed reproductively. However even many monogamous men (and women) will cheat if there is the right opportunity. Men at the top of the ladder have t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/22 02:44 AM
3	Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negated Sorry man- I don’t mean the dudes writing code. I mean the top of the chain dude like Zuck, sundar, and other tech leaders that manipulate social media, search engines, twitter etc to control the masses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/22 02:29 AM
7	Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negated Disagree with your number two. Women have not “stolen” mens high paying jobs. We tend to stick to care giving lower paying jobs by nature. Even us females in the PMC tend to gravitate toward care given people focused jobs. Nursing, teaching, doctoring. This also assumes that the way we have divided labor after we developed agriculture is the natural state of being for humans. I don’t know that the industrialized nations could have grown as rapidly as we have without the contributions of women in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/22 02:21 AM
1	Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with? Perfect response.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/22 11:14 PM
37	Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negated You are missing big one… middle class high wage jobs that allow men (and women) without a collage degree to support a family of four on one salary. The middle class was hollowed out by BOTH parties when they focused on free trade and shipped all the good manufacturing jobs overseas. The class of males I interact are doing great (the PMC - professional managerial class.) I believe THIS is the biggest problem non-PMC men have. Self worth is tied to one’s ability to care for themselves and, especia…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/22 10:53 PM
6	Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex? I was a fat kid and young adult. I got up to 249 lbs at my highest at the age of 25, 5’1 female in grad school. I finally hit rock bottom. Joined my college gym and finally got a better handle on eating (lower carb high protein lower calorie). Over my fat life, I had terribly low bodily self esteem and had some hook ups were I was used. A few decent boyfriends of lower socioeconomic status, lower career goals and looks in low to average range. Once I began my weight loss journey and started my c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/22 06:14 PM
3	Do you give a flying fuck about anxiety over paternity uncertainty? Don’t care because there are paternity tests readily available in western countries. I do understand that from an evolutionary prospective that mate guarding/ jealously and control/dominance and subjugation of women comes from the need of the male to ensure parentage. Western countries, lead mostly by men, have thankfully gone against this imperative largely to allow women to have freedom. However there is always an undercurrent and at times resurgence of this imperative to control our bodies fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/22 04:03 PM
4	the real reason why modern dating/marriage is crap You are widely inaccurate in that most women do not "hoe" around. The average number of partners is 4.3 (2019)- this statistic is readily available and may be even lower for the every day woman as a few outliers with many many partners skew the average. Perhaps with age stratification you might get a higher number for younger women but even if its double, that's not a lot of partners say over 10 years. While there are some women who take to the casual sex scene, most are serial monogamists until…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/22 11:06 PM
14	Who was your best sex? Your spouse? Your ex? Your FWB? Your ONS? And, if you had a one time opportunity, would you have sex with that person again? Do you sometimes fantasize about them? My best sex was and is with my hubby. Hands down the best. Definitely knew he was a keeper once we became intimate. Dominant but also very much focused on my pleasure in addition to his. Almost 15 years married and we still very much enjoy each other. If anything, I could go more often but unfortunately, boys, when you get in your forties your refractory time lengthens.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/22 03:13 AM
1	Are most modern women's standards for men too high? Why or why not? A woman's standards should be as high as she can make them while finding a mate and/or selecting for someone to father her kids (perhaps even if the fathers parental investment isn't the best.) The human race literally depends on female selectivity to progress as a species. If anything, women should be mating less and with higher quality males. There are FAR too many women with baby daddies who were poorly selected leading to dumber, unhealthy, fatherless kids who do not contribute to society an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/22 02:50 AM
5	Men and Women BOTH hate being equal I’m in the professional class. I can speak to the upper class college educated. Most of my female peers seek equal partners or those males slightly more educated/slightly higher income. Most of my male peers also strongly prefer women with education and careers on their same level or very slightly lower. The educated men I know who dipped into the lower socioeconomic class for their partners mostly ended up with failed relationships with one exception. Most docs, vets, teachers, nurses, CPAs, la…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/22 01:03 AM
1	What were you told about attracting the opposite sex as you were growing up? My parents put a lot of pressure on me to loose weight. For health reasons mainly. I wasn’t really given any dating advice. Lo and behold, when I lost 125 pounds over about 3 years (down from 249 at 5’1) the quality of men I dated and had LTRs with drastically improved. Doesn’t work for everyone if you have an asymmetrical/unattractive face. But weight loss made a huuge difference for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/22 01:40 AM
1	How many women here are actually in shape? Used to be 249 pounds at 5’2. Finally got tired of that shit in my twenties. Had low self esteem especially when it came to dating/sex and being used/dismissed. So I took measures to level up and started changing my diet and started working out. I did this while in graduate school. I became interested in evolutionary bio as a result of my own behavior and that of the males around me as I dropped to 128 pounds over the course of about 3 years. I consistently was able to date better quality and be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 05:14 PM
1	Men's sexual desirability almost entirely attached to "the important stuff", aka how awesome you are is not always fun. OP you should do a little reading on Evolutionary Biology. All of your generalized feelings and observations have their root in EB. Sex is “expensive” for women, especially before we had birth control. Evolutionarily women on average select for traits in a male that signal he will be a provider/carer for her and her offspring. To do otherwise would result in less of her genetic material making it to the next generation. Evolution, Males select for youth/fertility markers and are wired to go for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 01:13 AM
1	Why are single women more likely to be happy being single then single men? When women look for a mate we are looking for someone that adds value and meaning to our lives. And I don’t mean a sugar daddy. Women can make just as much if not more than men. We are graduating with more degrees than men. We can keep house without a man. We can exist without men who do not bring something to the table. We often have extended friends and family networks. If we want sexual companionship we can get it. What we do not need is a dude that doesn’t bring much to the table. Many singl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 11:54 PM
1	High earners of PPD. Yes. My husband and I are both high earners. We split child rearing and household chores relatively evenly depending on who has more available/flexible hours. For example I was able to work 2/3 time for the first 8 years of our marriage so I did about 60-70% of kid/house stuff. For the past three years I’ve had to work full time on site with no schedule flexibility so now the hubs does 60-70% of kids/house. We value egalitarianism and it has worked very well for us financially to maximize earnin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/22 06:56 PM
3	Men are constantly reminded that “women are not a hive mind” yet they consistently demonstrate the exact opposite when it comes to mate selection - they are heavily influenced by their peers and base their opinions of men on what their friends and other women think Reddit is not a good sample of average women. Firstly the majority of users are males. Secondly, the gals who do use this forum are not representative of the average woman on the street. Thirdly, the vast majority of people in general have no knowledge of sociobiology or evolutionary biology to understand their behavior or “average” behavior in context of reproductive biology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/22 08:04 PM
1	Men are constantly reminded that “women are not a hive mind” yet they consistently demonstrate the exact opposite when it comes to mate selection - they are heavily influenced by their peers and base their opinions of men on what their friends and other women think None of these behaviors are shocking or really that far from the general truth. Remember that all behavior (and attributes) exists on a bell curve with the majority falling one or two standard deviations from midpoint. cold approaches superficially offer the most risk and unknown for a woman. Being introduced or even being in the same social circle where we might have a chance to get some background opinions is very desirable. Just like a man would take heed if he hears some gal is a psycho or a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/22 04:40 PM
2	Is controlling behavior always a bad thing? Why? If so, what are the alternatives? Sounds like you are not compatible. If either person in a relationship is out partying with friends on a regular basis, that person is not really that serious about a LTR. This includes dudes doing stuff with their friends on time that could be spent together if mutually desirable. People in committed LTRs and marriages are just not out as individuals with their friends much. That's the way it goes. Your LTR should be your best bud. Happy couples tend to migrate away from their single friends an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/22 03:02 AM
0	New study on dates shows that men paid for the majority of male-initiated dates (68%), but women or both paid only 33% of the female-initiated dates. wow I really feel sorry for you. I am unsurprised if you do not do well in either the getting laid or getting a meaningful relationship department. There are two options here...one yes he just wants to fuck you or two and/or he is really into you, thinks you are interesting and really wants to spend more time with you. He is a man and knows that indicating his interest in multiple ways is the best way to either (or both) get in your pants or get in your heart. You must have missed the biology re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/22 08:42 PM
0	New study on dates shows that men paid for the majority of male-initiated dates (68%), but women or both paid only 33% of the female-initiated dates. My friend it’s a vetting strategy. I own a business and have hired and fired about 30 ppl over the years. I use many vetting strategies both during the hiring process and in the first three months of employment to weed out people who are not serious/bad workers/don’t fit my business culture. The above method to vet men is a good one for us females (and honestly we don’t care if it bothers you just like as an employer I don’t care if my vetting methods bother a possible employee- if it bothers th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/22 12:19 AM
0	would you be in a relationship with someone if sex is off the table Nope. Sex is an important part of a relationship for me. Someone who is not interested in sex should find an LTR with someone else who is asexual. Edit to say I agree that if I my spouse ended up with a severe medical issue like cancer or paralysis I would stay in the relationship. I would possibly need to consider having slightly open arrangement and I would allow the same for my spouse if I became medically incapable of sex. Now general ED or untreated low libido does not count. We are talkin …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/22 11:21 PM
-1	New study on dates shows that men paid for the majority of male-initiated dates (68%), but women or both paid only 33% of the female-initiated dates. The man should pay for the date when he asks the girl out. Gal should offer to cover tips/drinks. If a woman initiates, she should offer to pay first but the man should immediately offer to pay or at least pay most of the bill if he is interested in pursuing additional dates. This is an outstanding signal that you (the man) are interested in pursuit/courtship. It shows interest and a willingness to invest. Gals going for egalitarian relationships who are in good financial shape should pay for dr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/22 10:56 PM
1	Women don’t want men to even the playing field by actively cultivating back up options since it ruins their leverage I feel sorry for you. You are making a big mistake assuming a women (or even a man) wants to jump right back into sex immediately after a break up. A quality woman (or man) in a heart felt relationship will not be worrying or even thinking about back ups. If you approach your relationships like this it will be hard for you to ever have a meaningful relationship. Sure most relationships fail. But some are long lasting and fulfilling. Best for you to follow the men going your own way (or female eq…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/22 07:23 PM
1	Is not wanting to get married always a red flag? What if we’re both childfree? I agree that it’s generally a possible red flag especially if the folks involved are over 27-30 and the relationship is over 1-2 years with no proposal followed by marriage within a year. If the person(s) really want to be married it happens fairly quickly. For a lot of dudes, indefinite partnership (like a forever boyfriend or fiancé) without marriage commitment really has no down sides. Perhaps for some women who do not want children as well. If you want marriage, be open and communicative of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/22 05:55 PM
-1	Most men don't have trouble dating and "betabucks" is mostly fantasy Women may sleep with some hot dudes or “bad boys” especially when we are younger. You define learning from experience as “settling” when in fact it is learning over time what is best for us and our potential future children. A 25 year old of either gender doesn’t know this yet. And young men do the exact same thing. I know so may guys who have fucked the crazy hot girl only to realize as they mature that a stable, less hot by visual standards is a much better match. Because humans of both sexes …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/22 05:05 PM
7	Most men don't have trouble dating and "betabucks" is mostly fantasy Lol. We (women) all want Jason mamoa. And most men would probably love to have a hot successful model. This is not reality. We know it’s not reality. It’s stupid to wish for it or spend hours on Reddit being jealous of “chads” who are an extreme minority. Get out bro. Us women just want a decent guy we are attracted to and who will treat us as partners in a relationship, especially if we want kids. Like seriously- you must live a sad life. Most people I know are in decent relationships with a pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/22 01:21 AM
4	Why sugar mommas are pretty rare but sugar daddies are quite popular? Why would a wealthy woman want to fund a dudes lifestyle just for arm candy or a fuck mate? She can get all the dick she wants without expending much financially? Wealthy high class educated women mostly what a peer or would rather not have a partner at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/22 08:24 PM
1	Terrified about this, want to discuss, CC woman are a nightmare for the future. I’m sure the number is debatable and location/culture dependent. And a relationship should absolutely be resolved if either party is not getting benefits. Why be in a relationship at all if it is not mutually beneficial?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/22 08:21 PM
5	Terrified about this, want to discuss, CC woman are a nightmare for the future. Best to take yourself and any of the friends you have that slut shame women out of the dating market. Go your own way please. 95% of women are nuanced human beings who deserved to be assessed by their current state of being.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/22 06:03 PM
1	What exactly forms a man into a "natural" ignoring uncontrollable genetics and circumstances? I have an 11 year old son now he looks like he will be very handsome and is very smart but probably short (I’m 5’1 dad is 5’11) be the best version of yourself possible. I’m into fitness and weightlifting and am already starting him on the fundamentals minimizing computer/online focus no social media or smart phones until 16 teaching to cook and help out around the house. My husband and i display what at egalitarian relationship looks like cultivate good social skills and an interesting, humorou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/22 05:39 PM
2	What age do you think Men and Woman are at their most sexually attractive? I like a seasoned fit man 28-45ish. There are some really great looking men in their ‘mid thirties. 40s. Brad pit fight club. He was 37. Danial Craig casino royal 38 Christian Guzman fitness influencer 29. These dudes make me feel something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/22 02:15 AM
4	Do women find Fighters (UFC, Boxing, Grappling,...) attractive? Depends on if he is a psycho with a history of abuse like Tyson or a chill lovable dude like Rogan. The masculinity makes you more noticeable but ultimately it’s the personality and how he treats you that would make him LTR material.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/22 03:33 AM
10	Which scenario would you pick? Why is there no scenarios where we end up with the HV or even moderate value man? This is silly. Most HV and moderately HV men end up in relationships. 1 or 3 are better options than a LV man who brings nothing to the table.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/22 10:30 PM
1	A man who is above average looking, say 7-9 should have no problem landing a woman of equal attractiveness. The fact that they are forced to work for it and still often struggle to even get their attention perfectly epitomizes women’s inflated self images due to abundance. Lol. Do you really think looks are the only thing we go for in a mate?? Most women are looking for relationships that at value to their lives. Sure we can bang a few hotties but really what woman wants you if you are a 7/8 if you live with mom, have a shitty job, do not hold egalitarian views, do not enjoy similar interests…. Most of us, especially when ready to have a meaningful LTR evaluate the whole package as it relates to stability and bringing something to the table.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/22 09:53 PM
1	Dating, Marriage, and life is full of Female Privelege Tee hee! Sometimes it’s fun to spar with upset guys like you. I was overweight and in college during my twenties. I had low self esteem and did have some casual hook ups amidst some LTRs that were not overall value added to my life. I choose to improve myself. Dropped 125 pounds. Finished my degree and after some serial LTRs with increasingly higher value men, married my Chad at 29 (a Chad to you boys. Not a Chad in attitude. 5’11 high income career goals that matched mine 9/10 looks, egalitaria…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/22 04:12 PM
9	Dating, Marriage, and life is full of Female Privelege I’m not sad women in western countries have gained our reproductive freedom. We can employ our Darwinian right to select for the fitness of our mates. This means providing resources (emotional, financial, and labor) in equal measure to what we bring to the table (which is now the same as men PLUS we bear children.) Why should we spend our reproductive, emotional and financial capital on people who think like this who would not be a net gain for us and our offspring?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/22 04:47 AM
1	Q4W: If you discovered a man wore a hair piece after having sex with him, how would you feel? I could easily say the same about the red pill dudes BUT some of the core tenets of red pill like bettering yourself to optimize your mating opportunities are very true. Both philosophies at their core have some evolutionary bio principles that are very beneficial for optimizing reproductive/mating strategies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/22 03:52 AM
1	Q4W: If you discovered a man wore a hair piece after having sex with him, how would you feel? Scroll through it almost as much as this sub. Maybe I just pick up more on the leveling up and cutting out LVM. I’ve read most of their handbook. Core philosophy is leaning into hypergamy, leveling up, being LESS promiscuous. All very beneficial to women. Sure there is femcel content on there. Far less than the crazy stuff guys say on here about women. I find all the dynamics interesting and support the beneficial aspects of both red pill and FDS. I’ve studied and have an interest in evolutionar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/22 01:32 AM
1	Q4W: If you discovered a man wore a hair piece after having sex with him, how would you feel? I’ve read a lot of FDS stuff and even listen to their podcast and believe a lot of their principles are spot on for women. I used a lot of the leveling up philosophy myself before FDS was a thing. I have never seen a serious post about this topic specifically so I don’t know or think that most women who follow FDS would consider this a serious offense (now lying about your job, finances, kids/baby mommas, criminality, credit history, education are muuuch worse)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/22 01:21 AM
1	Q4W: If you discovered a man wore a hair piece after having sex with him, how would you feel? Good hair piece or shaved head is totally acceptable especially if all other metrics are good. Even if I found out about it after sex. Shitty hair piece or weird shaped head would probably not fly. I’ve dated a guy who shaved his head periodically and I found it very attractive especially with his dress style and persona (drove a Harley, lots of tats, high level mechanic at an industrial plant)	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/22 11:38 PM
2	We would save a lot of heartache and mental distress for men if we were simply honest about women to them when they were young boys Are we though? Most moms I know including myself teach their boys about some of common issues that especially unstable or women from a bad socioeconomic can bring. My son is about 11 and in an age appropriate what I will help him steer clear from/ navigate - women with excessive drama - women who are working class with no plan to improve other than get a man - women who want a baby daddy - taking extreme caution with anyone he is intimate with, especially in collage where false accusations, esp …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/22 09:47 PM
0	Do you support a publicly accessible domestic violence offender registry, similar to the sex offender registry? Absolutely after conviction. Remove name if conviction is overturned. This should be for both men and women who abuse a partner or child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/22 09:37 PM
1	Are you guys actually asking your partners N counts? Married 14 years with a HVM, fits in the Chad zone by statistical methods RP guys use but never had the Chad personality to go with it. We never discussed numbers and only loosely talked about our previous relationships. He seemed to be a serial monogamist but I never cared to ask about hook ups and he never really asked anything about my sexual past. It didn’t matter to either of us once we found each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/22 09:28 PM
1	Q4M: does it bother you when you see a 30+ women settle down with a HVM? I’m am a professional. Most of my peers and family members are in professional fields. (Veterinarians, mds, dentists, teachers, chiro, and upper management.) of all of the professional men I know, only one had/has a large age gap (and has had several age gap unstable relationships) and only one married below his class. The vast majority of professional men I know prefer women intelligent women with their own professional careers even though they could get younger, vapid women who are seeking sug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/22 01:46 AM
1	What would you teach your children about the opposite sex? Egalitarian in this context refers to a fair, mutually agreed upon and balanced distribution of labor, resources, emotional involvement within a relationship. Not necessarily equal in every metric. For example, a dentist can be married to a stay at home mom/ dad and still have an egalitarian relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/22 02:32 PM
2	What would you teach your children about the opposite sex? Female, married 45 background in biology with an interest evolutionary bio The best of FDS tactics for my daughter in an age appropriate manner (she is 13 and will grow into an intelligent nerdy beauty.) Vetting, limit sexual and emotional availability until after commitment, be the best version of yourself possible. Marry across or up in the social hierarchy. Have a professional career but don’t be afraid to step back and be a mom if you want. Have LTRs only with men who will be egalitarian. Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/22 04:53 AM
0	Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it? Yes. Hypergamy is biological in nature. It is a term used by biologist to describe observable behavior in animal species. It is innate and logical from an evolutionary stand point. Our behaviors are influenced socially. But if you take a wide view, our cultural and social behaviors follow our biological behaviors. You could say that culture is the manifestation of our evolutionarily adaptive behaviors and culture in and of it self is a biologic adaptation. A great recent book on this topic is A …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/22 05:50 PM
1	Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it? Good question. I do not think reasonable, intelligent people who take time to understand evolutionary biology are upset about behaviors and reproductive strategies that are observable amongst most mammalian species. Women have to invest heavily in reproduction. We have no choice. We can maximize our genetic success only by being hypergamous. I wish more of the females I know selected better mates. I work with quite a few working class gals that either mated at or below their social status. They …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/22 04:53 PM
1	How common is it for women to stop having sex with their husbands after marriage? Perhaps I should have phrased this better. Once a week is the minimum optimal sex/oral based on what I read. Less can lead to problems on both sides. Of course more can be great too! As long as it is not unwanted pity sex. The books actually stressed that it’s important for women, even if we are not in the mood, to try to set up conditions so we can have that intimate connection at least once a week. Many women may not start in the mood but end up really enjoying an intimate connections if we ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/22 07:13 PM
13	It makes sense that women’s standards are “high”, and they are avoiding the majority of men, when men are basically saying that being with a man lowers a woman’s value This is just silly. I just googled average yearly full time wage woman 2019 47k, man 57k. That’s not a huge difference. With a little effort and 2-4 year education we can out earn a man. 60% of collage students are currently female. Literally no one except conservative creeps and weird incels place value on virginity and even body count. Google says the average number of intimate partners is 4-6. That less than one a year if a gal gets married at 27.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/22 05:34 AM
17	How common is it for women to stop having sex with their husbands after marriage? Before I answer your question (as a 14 year happily married female) some points to make. If you think dead bedrooms are only one sided just go look at the db subreddit. Many many women on there have husbands who won’t fuck them. Often porn and weight gain. Unscientifically prob 30% of the posts are from women Second, many men just stop trying after they settle down. Stop flirting stop lengthy foreplay stop giving oral and don’t focus on their partners orgasm. Most of us don’t talk that much abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/22 02:10 AM
4	Women can't value self confidence and expect men to be honest about their feelings Huh. The confident men I know are also confident in their feelings. They do not tend to be irrational with the feels. They also tend to be more circumspect in how they communicate those feelings but from my fairly decent sample size including male relatives, friends, acquaintances and my husband, most display a healthy amount of positive emotions especially (joy, empathy, love of their family) while tempering the overtly negative ones. My one brother who is a major introvert, keeps his emotions …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/22 04:15 PM
2	What is the difference between toxic masculinity and high value men? This! I’m married to a “HVM” if we apply these labels. He hits all the numerical metrics of a Chad or HVM as defined by FDS or people on here. But he is not “toxic” at all. He’s been an equal partner in all things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/22 06:35 PM
2	What benefit do women have being more emotional than men? Evolutionarily, women tended to be the more social communicators and care givers. Intense emotions likely helped with bonding with children. Displaying and feeling love, fear/anxiety, and empathy would be an evolutionary advantage for child rearing for our very altricial young. In terms of building kin and family groups pre ag, being a talker, communicator was likely an advantage. It’s hard to build networks (or undermine your competition) without overt emotionality to some extent. Men are very …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/22 01:58 AM
1	Social awkwardness and lack of fitness are the reason for lack of interest women have in men today Agree for sure. I also feel some of this is from the lack of good paying/good benefit non college degree jobs that can support a family. For a time after ww2 a man could get a good job and support a family without having to go to collage. This is a tremendous help to the average looking dude who can now bring something to the table other than a shit job and video game/porn addiction . Might also learn how to socialize properly while engaged with people at work. Working low wage shit jobs does no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/22 07:04 PM
1	What sports or hobbies that a potential relationship partner might have attract you the most? Exercise and fitness first. Foodie/good cook second. I’m the baker in the relationship and my hubs is the cook/chef. We both met and maintain our long term relationship with fitness as a priority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/22 01:15 AM
2	Question for coupled people: Where did you meet your partner? Yahoo personals/messenger about 2006. Pre social media and hook up apps. We kept how we met hush hush for a long time because it was weird back then to meet meet online. We only chatted online for a week or so before meeting in person and then conducting all our dating normally thereafter. (We are both college educated, I have an advanced degree. We were 29 and 30 with common goals and ready to settle down). Hubs is a Chad if it makes any difference. Just a hair under 6, thin when I met him. Now…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/22 12:40 AM
3	Do you think that a culture of isolation, individualism and atomization has a role in reducing fertility rate? The biggest reason for decreased fertility is the cost of raising children. And lack of good middle class jobs that pay a wage that can support a family without having a collage degree. Kids are freakin expensive. Those of us reproducing invest more in fewer children. There is probably also a small effect of women choosing not to have kids at all now that we can decide our own reproductive paths.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/22 04:34 PM
3	Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to also My husband of 13 years DID marry a visual 10 after a few months of dating, bought her a car, tons of jewelry/designer clothes whatever she wanted but he was unfulfilled. He divorced her after a year when he realized what a mistake it was. It took him 12 months to propose to me. We invested equally (financially) in our dating and costs of living and everything together since. So no. I don’t feel any jealousy. He invested more heavily in his first wife to his detriment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/22 03:50 AM
6	Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to also Perhaps the person learned the error of quick hook ups and realized that the way to get a quality LTR is to take it slow. Also women are allowed to want a quick fuck no strings attached if they are single. Why can’t we do that now and then if we are not in a committed relationship? Perhaps we need a fling after a rough patch and then after a time we are ready to settle down? Are we not allowed to be varied in our approach to sex and relationships?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/22 02:15 AM
2	Serious question. What TRULY is the point of marriage for men? I think you are really undervaluing the companionship, love and fulfillment marriage can provide both sexes for those lucky enough to find a true partner. There is a reason married people live longer than unmarried, especially unmarried men. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352827320302792 Both my father and my husbands father and now my husband gained tremendous self worth and life satisfaction by raising kids in egalitarian relationship(s). Duel income households, especially…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/22 05:53 PM
1	The fact that women are so repulsed by dick pics or photos of naked men is proof that they are not anywhere near as horny as men Uuuhhh. That’s not proof. Show me pics of your 6 pack and I’m thirsty. Show me your body in nice slim fit classy outfit and I’m hot. Dicks are not attractive for the most part. Female bodies tend to be more as aesthetically pleasing. I would also hazard most guys wouldn’t really appreciate a super close up of a hairy vag.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/22 02:15 AM
14	If prostitution became legalized and normalized, how do you think that would affect relationships among cis gendered straight couples? Prostitution is rarely a positive choice for most women and girls in the sex trade. The vast majority of women would never want their bodies being used and abused by men, especially the type of men seeking to rent a woman’s body. If a woman had an option of a job that paid 40k a year with flexible schedule and 30-35 hours a week she would almost never choose to be debased by an ugly ass 35 year old neckbeard. It is a vast failing of our society that there are not good paying jobs for both sexes …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/22 09:25 PM
2	Why is promiscuity encouraged? Ah. Yes I agree that the media and especially the progressive left are pushing a sexual narrative of “sex positivity” and “sex work is work” to the detriment of meaningful human relationships between men and women. This narrative is especially harmful to women. Most people I encounter who are single just seem to want to connect and form a decent mutually beneficial relationship. The media narrative is absolutely detrimental to this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/22 05:33 PM
1	Why is promiscuity encouraged? Huh … must depend on what circles you are in. Where I’m at, none of the singles I know are promiscuous. Some might be serial daters or serial monogamists. I know a lot of single 20 and 30 something females though work and all are just looking for a good dude. Even the single guys I know are just looking for a good relationship (seems to be harder for them) and don’t seem overtly promiscuous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/22 05:24 PM
2	You should pay for what you order when going on a first date Disagree. Don’t care if you are a man or a woman but whoever asked the other person out should immediately without hesitation pay the tab. A sign of a high quality is that the person who was asked out should also immediately offer to split, pay the tips or pay for the drinks. The asker outer should decline this offer and pay. This is polite HV behavior. This is behavior that show me the other person values my time and understands etiquette. If the asker outer (usually a guy) is really that conce…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/22 08:34 PM
1	Questions for the women here: What do you consider the perfect relationship and are you with someone who fits this mould? 15 years with my perfect partner in life. We met at age 29/30. We both had had LTRs that were not successful previously so we knew what we wanted. Two kids. On this sub because I did personally level up to attain the best possible match and I’ve always found sexual sociobiology interesting. It’s also great insight into what my two tweens have in store in the current dating market. Number one qualification - egalitarian. Someone who was looking for a life partner. Number two - driven. Driven to s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/22 05:28 PM
–	If women should lower their standards to be with the average man....why, and what does the average man have to offer? See my other post here somewhere. The solution is not to be resentful of women actually getting our piece after being oppressed and dominated all of human history. Blame the politicians who sent all the middle class jobs that don’t require collage overseas. We need a massive reinvestment and restructuring of working class jobs to so that men (and women) who do not pursue professional degrees can attain a good standard of living for a family on 1 to 1.5 incomes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/22 02:32 AM
2	The whole “nice guy” narrative that women bitch about completely ignores the large number of men who simply react out of frustration with women less attractive than them acting stuck up and rude It’s better to be rude, dismissive and obviously uninterested then lead on men we are not attracted to. Ya all often don’t get simple clues and mistake a smile or politeness for interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/22 08:25 PM
–	If women should lower their standards to be with the average man....why, and what does the average man have to offer? Yes. This is nature. I do not disagree. Men are the risk takers. They do the majority of the heavy physical labor. But in modern times, men with a purpose and education do not have to be in this role. Women will ALWAYS be the ones with the highest cost for child birth and rearing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/22 08:23 PM
–	If women should lower their standards to be with the average man....why, and what does the average man have to offer? That doesn’t mean they won’t accidentally get pregnant unless there is a true medical condition or they are over 40. Doesn’t negate the risk of STDs of a guy cheats which are worse for women. And sure many women feel that way. And many women make shitty mothers. Doesn’t negate the fact that childbirth and rearing as a whole universally falls mostly on women world wide. We are talking averages not the exceptions. I assumed this PPD is trying to uncover the biological reasons why our sexual relati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/22 08:16 PM
2	If women should lower their standards to be with the average man....why, and what does the average man have to offer? Uh. I don’t even know what you mean? Sex is mutual. Investment in child rearing is often not even close to being equal. Especially when a dude leaves. Nor do you have to deal with the aftermath to your body with pregnancy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/22 02:20 AM
2	If women should lower their standards to be with the average man....why, and what does the average man have to offer? The average or less then average woman gives you (probably) the gift of passing on your genes to the next generation at the cost of damage to her body and commitment to care for your offspring if you leave her. This is the most valuable asset women give to the human race and men in general. After being on the sub for a while it seems it’s a good thing a lot of men’s genes are getting culled.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/22 12:32 AM
2	Obesity has decimated the dating market in America As a woman, dropping weight from 249 down to 130 changed the quality and variety of my dating pool. It also allowed me to be faaar more choosy in the men I choose to date. Being obsessed with fitness also lead me to choose someone else who valued health and fitness. 15 years into marriage and we actually are even more fit than when we met at 30. (We both transitioned to weight training instead of running/biking). There are a decent subset of men and women who regularly work out/train/ do half ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/22 09:53 PM
1	Your opinion of men who watch porn in relationship? Little to none is my preference. It should not be a noticeable habit. If it causes stress or r dissatisfaction in our actual sexual or regular relationship that is a problem. If I caught my hubs jerking it to porn especially if I was open to sex at that moment (which I’m down for sex, good sex 90% of the time he initiates) that would be a huge huge problem and a big turn off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/22 08:05 PM
4	Do women feel insulted if a man expresses that he wants to hookup? Is she??? Most of the chronically undersexed males are terrible in bed. Porn is your guide. And that is not the way to interest a woman in casual sex. Orgasm gap. Not only does your question signal social ineptitude, it signals a high likelihood you do not know what you are doing in bed and I’d be better off with a toy or a FWB that who is proven to give me a good time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/22 05:35 PM
24	Do women feel insulted if a man expresses that he wants to hookup? We feel repulsed because you lead with your dick and not with your head/heart. Pretty much every guy wants to fuck us. We already know that. Now you just proved you only see us as a object to masturbate with. Also anyone with this kind of phrasing is clearly most likely to be inexperienced and would be unlikely to provide a good time even if all I wanted was a masturbation experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/22 05:31 PM
2	Do women feel insulted if a man expresses that he wants to hookup? Bravo	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/22 05:27 PM
1	Do women feel insulted if a man expresses that he wants to hookup? Total turn off. Shows how superficial you are. Shows you are only after sex and have no interest in me as a person. While I understand many guys think this way, to lead with it would not result in a better outcome with most women. And as all the neckbeards and on here regularly claim - a girl who would say yes right away is a girl only worth a pump and dump. Not LTR material.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/22 05:26 PM
8	Q4W: What is your opinion on guys who use prostitutes? Automatic hard no. I would never connect emotionally or want to connect physically with someone who would buy sex. Gross. Sometimes abusive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/22 05:23 AM
1	Short Woman with height requirements; how tall is your father and brothers? I’m 5’1. Dad mom and brothers are all under 5’4. I married a man that is 5’11. I’ve always preferred over 5’7 at minimum even when I was really overweight. I view my dad and brothers as awesome! Both my brothers married really good looking HV women. Both brothers have good personalities, are very very egalitarian, and have great careers. Their wives are superficially a 7 and a 9. Both wives have their own professional careers and both are a wee bit taller than my brothers. So short guys don’t lo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/22 03:05 AM
5	Why exactly does pornography bother you? My biggest issue with the pervasiveness of porn, especially hard core porn is that this is often young males first experience with sexuality. I do not think it benefits anyone for a 12 year old boy to see and possibility have their sexuality/desires/turn ons influenced by choking, slapping, double ass fucking videos and all the other depraved shit one click away. I have an 11 year old boy and he will not have a smart phone or personal tablet until 16. His computer is in the family room w lots of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/22 02:50 AM
9	If ww3 occured now, how do you think social norms would shift among men and women? I appreciate modern society sooo much. It has allowed me to become a medical profession, wife, mother, and enter a fully egalitarian marriage. If society collapsed women would become chattel again. You men all whine on here but most men thought out history have had much more autonomy then women. We have been possessions, subordinate, sexually exploited and for the entire human history have not been allowed to be fully realized human beings to our full desire and potential. We have been slaves to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/22 01:53 AM
3	Which Family dynamic do you think is better overall? Situation one. I like to be fully realized outside the home. I have a mate that is an equal parent and both of us contribute equally financially. We have used various nanny’s or family or camps to bridge the care gaps caused by work. Most of the time they are in regular school w extracurriculars. I feel it’s probably is most womens financial best interest to maintain a career and network. If the guy leaves or cheats or abuses it’s easier to get away safely. It’s a valid option to be a SAHM but i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/22 03:11 PM
3	What are the benefits to dating a red pill man? No benefits for long term relationships. Possibly for short term friends with benefits IF he is really good in bed. I would never date someone who didn’t have an egalitarian attitude toward their long term mate. I am a professional, 6 figure earner that is prob 7-8/10 looks who excepts a true partnership only. I’d spot a red pill dude pretty quick. Fuck that. My mate is my equal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/22 12:44 AM
–	How much has losing weight impacted your dating life? Pretty simple. Jordan Peterson, FDS, redpill etc are all modern manifestations of us trying to understand our sexual evolutionary biology. FDS maximizes reproductive strategies for women. As a woman, I love a lot of what they say because it is based on some fundamental principles. I was following their ideology as I leveled up even before there was an FDS. Maximize and value yourself. Be choosy. Pick the best mate and provider. Sex is expensive for women evolutionarily speaking so don’t give it …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/22 06:01 AM
1	Question for women: What is your opinion on circumcising boys? Consider when you have a son for example. Is this something you would want for him? Why or why not? Please discuss My husband understands my logic. It was never a big horrible fight. It just took some convincing. I accepted some sideways looks from other family when it came up. My hubs just wants to make sure he is blame free if my kid hates it. People can be cruel, women included, in their dislike of foreskins.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/22 08:17 PM
3	Question for women: What is your opinion on circumcising boys? Consider when you have a son for example. Is this something you would want for him? Why or why not? Please discuss My husband is circumcised and all older relatives are. They just think it’s normal and more hygienic. My hubs says he’s gonna blame it on me if my kid hates his foreskin later in life. But I have the moral/ethical high ground so I’ll just tell my kid I’ll get him the best urologist possible if/when he wants it done.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/22 03:59 AM
7	How much has losing weight impacted your dating life? Female 44 5’2 Was fat my whole life up until 27. I weighed 249 at my highest. Finally got sick of it. I was an introvert. Used instant messenger and match to meet guys. Hooked up with a few. Dated a few. Definitely in the 5/10 range and average social status. Joined a gym, cleaned up my eating. Made exercise and food choices a central part of my life outside of graduate school. Over about a 2 years I dropped down to 130, very fit. Over this same time, my dating prospects increased proportionally…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/22 03:18 AM
24	Question for women: What is your opinion on circumcising boys? Consider when you have a son for example. Is this something you would want for him? Why or why not? Please discuss My son is not circumcised and it was a bit of a fight with family. My logic won out. All humans deserve and intact body and to make their own body modifications (unless medically necessary before the age they can make their own decisions.) I realize that modern culture really demands circumcised dicks but I couldn’t do that to my kid. Especially knowing the origin(s) of all genital mutilation practices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/22 05:10 PM