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You can't compare a platonic friendship to a romantic one. Platonic friendships exist because interests are the same and the energies match, we're not trying to constantly increase intimacy such as going for a kiss, sleeping together and having sex. These romantic milestones are crossroads down a path, not a bridge to be crossed that can be walked back and tried again at a later date if you fail. There's no going back after you try to go further. Yes, women aren't cars and that's obvious but a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:30 AM
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Someone who's self aware. Someone who forgives and isn't judgemental in a way to expect perfection, we're all clumsy and doing most things for the first time in our lives, like living life itself. The best people I've met are who can laugh in the moment saying "awkward" and continue enjoying company. Self care, both mentally from the first point to health and carer prospects in general. Being aware of addictions is a big one. Healthy also means fit which means we both have energy to go on trips,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:38 PM
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Huge portion of men are simply boring to women. A decade of brainwashing has swayed too many men into a passive, passenger role compared to what was in the 90's even 2000's. Just look at movies, romcons. The old one's had the guy make the move on the girl, always, for a kiss or sex but modern day man in movies looks like superman but he is the one approached and initiated for sex, even a kiss. Sure women might like a nice guy who's got his life in order but when it comes to feeling it's just dry…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:28 PM
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I remember those parties
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:23 PM
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They always flake and get disinterested within a month of talking. I guess I'm physically fit enough to get them interested but once she starts to get to know me, I'm either not enough or don't make her feel special enough. I sort of wish they'd at least put a 1-5 star review on where I went wrong so I can improve cause I'm constantly guessing cluelessly.
/r/seduction14/08/25 01:58 PM
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But when I stop being calculated and let my real me through, everything eventually turns into seen, delivered and then unfollowed/unfriended. Hardly ever anyone's interest is in the real me. How to know if she's actually lost interest because her tastes changed or to know I am repulsive and should just keep to myself?
/r/seduction13/07/25 09:47 PM
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I try to tell myself I am enough and live life without anyone else's approval but there comes a point where I feel I'm paraphrasing insanity. I guess I just don't want to accept reality that I'm not what I carry myself to be. Sort of like someone training to be a chef for a decade to make tasty food but for the last decade anyone who tries your food spits it out. Am I still stagnant in the same place I was a decade ago or has it been a coincidence and every different person throughout this decad…
/r/seduction09/07/25 01:42 PM
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Just that it's fine chatting for the sake of chatting but I've rarely had anyone be receptive if I ever try to set things up to meet irl for a date or something, they always flake at that spot. Fine if my purpose is to just be a virtual chat and someone who inflates their social number for views and likes but wish I could be more than just that to someone.
/r/seduction09/07/25 11:44 AM
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That's the thing, I don't. Not trying to gotcha, genuinely want this fixed.
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:26 AM
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How to not hesitate and overthink before texting a girl then
/r/seduction09/07/25 12:19 AM
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They always laugh but the moment you suggest meeting up in person it's a left on read.
/r/seduction09/07/25 12:16 AM
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So then talk about what? What are icebreakers that don't fall into the cliché nice guy convos
/r/seduction08/07/25 12:09 AM
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How long should one clear their head for? Took a year off and upon returning nothing's improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:45 PM
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So what happens when you tell more about yourself and they consistently get more disinterested? It's almost like they like a fantasy of me and not the authentic real me.
/r/seduction02/07/25 02:03 PM
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I feel like it's the opposite. The moment I stop being their fantasy and share hobbies about myself and so on, they all start getting increasingly distant.
/r/seduction02/07/25 01:52 PM
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I've joined social and recreational clubs and despite them being overwhelmingly female dominated, even then 95% of them are already in a relationship. Trying to find anyone there has been a dead end. All my extroverted friends that would go out to social events with me are already in relationships so don't go to these events anymore, cause they don't need to. I do fear I'm too late with not enough time to fix my lack of experience. I agree, clubs are the hardest and in a sense not my type of gir…
/r/seduction24/06/25 03:55 PM
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I hope so. This is just all so new to me. I've lived a decade of rejection so it's sort of comforting knowing what the outcome of going to the clubs will be before even going and this just threw it all out of normalcy. I'll just keep going and vibing. At least now I know how a girl will dance and behave if she's actually interested in me.
/r/seduction24/06/25 03:04 PM
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Lessons learned truly. Everything that was a shortfall could maybe have been resolved if I simply have had more experience in this and realised in the moment that this and that won't work or block us from going further. Anxious how I'll go back to the trenches now again until stars align again to match up with someone but I at least now know what it could feel like and what I've got to look forward to some day.
/r/seduction24/06/25 07:58 AM
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Yea, looking back I can't think of anything more I could have done, just the tent thing for us was being stuck between a rock and a hard place, literally and metaphorically. I think it was also the tent thing. Girls just like us want some action and I was the lucky guy she wanted as well. That included going more at it in the tent but seeing it crammed with other people in it means we can't do what we wanted to. I'm not complaining tho. We'll see with the messages. Something along the lines of w…
/r/seduction23/06/25 10:08 PM
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That's true. Likely the night ended that way because she also wanted to find someone to end it with. I think if there's one thing it'd change it's maybe going to my tent. Hers was way comfier but since other people were there as well, we couldn't do anything spicier if we wanted to without disrupting people.
/r/seduction23/06/25 07:15 PM
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Thanks man. For a first way better than I could have ever imagined. Here's to working for it so it's never a one time thing.
/r/seduction23/06/25 01:59 PM
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Only spend energy on women who reciprocate the effort you're putting in That's the thing, most don't. In nearly a decade of dating I can only recall one girl who'd actually from time to time text me first and ask me if I'm free as she wants to hang out or invite me somewhere. Otherwise if I am not constantly the one making plans and waiting for others to remember me, they won't remember me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:11 PM
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That's the thing, being intimate to me is being romantic. Can't have one without the other. So without romance or intimacy, we're left with basic acts of service but without context or meaning, I am left in the dark guessing if she actually means these things or she's just doing them to get over it and not so I can be left alone. Similar to how deadbedroom situations arise, where the woman is stressed so can't get in the mindset to be intimate but the man doesn't understand, so just to skip the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:23 PM
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I think it'd drive me mad. At a minimum a word or two of affection and desire. I already struggle with the idea of being wanted and this'd just confirm all my worst fears and send me into a spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:09 PM
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Both icky but OF is by far the lesser evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:14 AM
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I feel like I'm in a dimension of opposites. I've tried a lot of these things people say but that's led me nowhere.
/r/seduction05/06/25 04:49 PM
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I wonder how similar the responses would be on female dominated subreddits like twoxchromose and so on. They usually tear inexperienced and virgin men to pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:16 PM
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I feel like this is an innuendo and less advice.
/r/seduction30/05/25 03:59 PM
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I made the decision to be the best version of myself nearly a decade ago and still no one bites. Some think I'm lying when I say I've never had anyone. Average like a date a year and those go nowhere. Either they already have boyfriends, reject me or I was just someone to get a free meal for. Giving it your 100% still isn't good enough to meet the minimum modern requirements.
/r/seduction30/05/25 02:16 PM
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My best coffee dates so far are either being used as a free ride to get places or being told there won't be another coffee date, or any date. Only bad results from them but they're still better than dinner cause they're way cheaper. If I'm to not get anywhere at least I didn't spend much.
/r/seduction29/05/25 08:24 PM
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We're missing out on the peak age for the best sex. No one can convince me sex when you're old and can barely make it through the day will be better than when you're, young, fit and strong with stamina full of raging hormones, testosterone and mental strength.
/r/seduction29/05/25 08:04 PM
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I think you're overplaying our impulse to arousal. Sure, I'm a thighs man and if in public I see a girl with great thighs, especially some stockings/leggings that end at the thigh and sort of let off the pressure, I will bite my lip and stare a second or two longer than someone who's just scanning the place. But that's about it, I let my manners slip for a second, appreciated something great and will move on about my life. Can't put a timeframe on it or how often it happens. But for sure happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:13 PM
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You lost me at getting a date every month. Best I can do is 1 date a year. It'll take me 12 years to do what you do in one year. Half a lifetime what you do in 4 years. This is not doable at this rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:22 AM
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Was the opposite for me. Not jerking it made me an airball, insane hornball. Started approaching girls I was still getting rejected by but now I'd look back and think tf was I doing? We're my standards really that low? Keep jerking it but I do agree that I got back more time to things with that otherwise preoccupied me.
/r/seduction23/05/25 10:45 PM
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Word. I wrote some paragraphs but this is way better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:42 AM
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I hate this assumption that if you're romantically a failure that must also mean you're lonely socially. Couldn't be more opposite. I have a few hobbies that are actually heavily female dominated but that's still a dead end. Pocking my head around to get a general idea of what everyone's like, without fail all the girls either have boyfriends or are married. It's like if you missed the train of entry a few years ago it's over, you're now an outsider. There's only so far responsibility can take y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:40 AM
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There's a disconnect like we're on two different worlds. Sure, I've tried for a decade to get something going but it's all one directional, I get to live life because I make the first move, plan things and make sacrifices. I struggle to recall when I was invited to something and they messaged me first. I agree, just do it. They'll enjoy what you're planned and be the 10th choice when they're organising something. Reliability best results are getting left on delivered, one tops the rest with at l…
/r/seduction18/05/25 01:24 AM
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I can't see this changing, as my preferences won't change because I want someone who's on my level, same as me, so also a virgin. I think in that world it'd be even harder to find what I want since it's so much more casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:06 AM
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It's simple, when you're on the left, no woman's complimented you which would reinforce the fact that people appreciate what you are. I only see women in person and online say/post about how they dream about the one on the right. Even if it's a smaller percentage of women, since they're the only ones vocal about it, men think that's the only type that's appreciated. I've only been cat called by women when I resembled something on the right. Now that I've put on a bit more weight like on the left…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:52 PM
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False. I've got on multiple dates where at the end of it 1-4h they decided they won't be seeing me again. If they made up their mind within 5 minutes then less time would have been wasted.
/r/seduction25/03/25 02:24 PM
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I've had a few attempts. All but one shut me down immediately so no luck.
/r/seduction21/03/25 04:49 PM
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Great flex, people living far better lives out there than me but go on and explain with examples never needing to rely on others and creating opportunities yourself.
/r/seduction10/03/25 09:12 AM
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It's a self fulfilling issue. Boys aren't raised with support systems, often encouraged to suppress their emotions and distract themselves with productivity or adrenaline. Then when they grow to be men, even if they have money to build or participate in support systems, all they know is how to either make their own gym or pick an adrenaline hobby. How this cycle can be interrupted is beyond my pay grade sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:34 PM
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So around which year do the rejections turn into interest?
/r/seduction27/01/25 11:31 PM
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Depends on the country. In some it's more about having one and how big it is cause big cars are expensive. I'm others it's about the brand, if you don't have a BMW, Audi or Mercedes, it's over. Then also how you drive. Fair amount of women have gotten the ick if you're not super confident with one hand driving a manual. Bonus points if you can drift. Having a good car increases your exposure to women but not on your ability to close the deal on a relationship or hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:58 AM
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Never managed to get any casual sex for more than a decade so no loss here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:51 AM
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Like an 8. Happy to spend money but I would consider it for a few seconds max she's not being wasteful. Like I'd be hesitant to buy something at Swarovski on a monthly basis. Doubt there's anything of actual value or meaning buying something from a place like that so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:41 AM
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I feel like I'm somewhat active and this survey completely flew over me. You should do another one, see if with an increased exposure anything changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:46 AM
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I don't know why I keep going. Shit's just a negative feedback loop after another one. Staring to feel like a good date is a myth.
/r/seduction10/10/24 11:23 PM
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Also girls mature way faster than boys, so if you want someone in the same plane of thinking and desires in life, you gotta consider 2 year younger at most. Known only one couple in my life where the woman's older than the man and man isn't at least 2 years older that his partner.
/r/seduction06/10/24 12:13 PM
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It's because of the risk factor. In the mindset of a man it's simple, done and over. For a woman it's a risk to get pregnant which itself leaves her vulnerable for nearly a year and then can have her bound for another 18 at least, let alone the social societal pressures.
/r/seduction06/09/24 09:44 AM
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You're projecting your own beliefs as a group wide mentality. A lot of women conform to their beauty standards of choice simply because they feel comfortable in it. An example would be a woman shaving herself not solely because her man finds her appealing, but she herself feels she's the most appealing in that state. Women don't always do everything to please or perform for the man. Often do it simply cause they want to reach a standard they themselves set.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:16 PM
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But men not knowing how to talk to women is because they don't ever get the opportunity to talk to women, even improve for next time by failing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:20 PM
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I don't think you realise how little action men are getting these days. Most are shit in bed not because they dont pay attention or don't try, but because they don't even get the chance to. Getting laid is step 10 in a whole process of dating. Many can't get past step 1 of getting a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:01 PM
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Doubt it. At early 20's the exception gets bigger but then normalises back out after mid 20's to women on average wanting a guy to be older than them, what feels like an average of 4-8 years, getting bigger the older they get. Might be my experience but the only women I know who are in relationships with people their own age is because they've stuck together with their boyfriend since high school. Older guys always have more toys to be fun with, have money and seems to be able to "take care" of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:00 AM
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Bro, you're already winning, a lot of us don't even get to the get laid part.
/r/seduction01/07/24 08:37 AM
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I'm just not enough, there's always someone better at something than I am so why choose me? Also I'm not very charming. Despite my best effort I've never apart from one time got a 2nd date. For there to be winners there have to be losers, I guess I know my place.
/r/seduction30/06/24 11:52 AM
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Cause he doesn't have any actual valuable advice. If his advice was publicly available everyone would see how unhelpful it actually is. In any place where these gurus can be criticised and tracked in their advice they hide behind private messages.
/r/seduction30/06/24 01:05 AM
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Hmm yes... Me and my abundance of 1 date a year, this has been going great and of course will improve, somehow... Still remember a girl staring me down 8 years ago. Maybe I should have shot my shot.
/r/seduction30/06/24 01:02 AM
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Manipulation comes from lack of experience. Men have significantly less chances to be in relationships, less relationships less knowledge of what's normal and what they should and shouldn't accept. How can you know you're being used when this is your first relationship, or think it's the expectation and standard cause every relationship you've been used.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:43 AM
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Follow rule 1 and 2. Be attractive and don't be unattractive. If they'll think you're good looking enough they'll drop the bar on the floor and you'll succeed without effort.
/r/seduction28/06/24 02:27 PM
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"you get feedback from the people that have the results you're looking for" so basically you're saying only note the feedback from the successes? What if I've had no successes, thus no feedback to note.
/r/seduction28/06/24 02:25 PM
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How would be know how we fucked up the approaches is all responses are ignorance. How can you go to clubs and bars alone. No one goes alone, you need to be in a group to talk to anyone else in a group.
/r/seduction28/06/24 01:46 PM
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We can do it in the comments. Surely your wisdom could come handy to many guys like me struggling who'd just be scouting the comments.
/r/seduction28/06/24 12:10 PM
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Date 2 is the problem. Barely get any dates and only once ever have I been on a 2nd date. Didn't work out either. You haven't addressed why guys aren't getting dates. You're discussing step 2, which is having a girl already shown interest in you, but most guys are stuck on step 1, getting anyone to even show interest in you.
/r/seduction28/06/24 11:59 AM
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Not a chance dude. I'm not laying two weeks worth of wage to get laid when others get it for free, multiple times a month if not multiple times a week. Gotta earn it, someone's gotta want me
/r/seduction28/06/24 11:58 AM
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The older and older I get the more convinced I am that you need to look pretty enough to be seen as a man, a human being in the first place, if you're not good looking enough you're invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:49 AM
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What's the point. Never ever leads to anything.
/r/seduction24/06/24 12:16 AM
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I've already fumbled. I wonder what the trick will be to not fail over and over and over again, feel ya.
/r/seduction12/06/24 03:47 PM
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I think it matters if it's agreed to first. Who's the priority in the relationship as priority/= responsibility. You can take up more responsibility whilst not being demoted to someone lesser. Also can't dismiss the men who feel used as merely a walking talking wallet for a child that's not his.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:59 PM
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So what do you suggest men do
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:44 AM
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I could be studied for how absymal game can be
/r/seduction05/06/24 05:05 PM
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Not looking good then sadly but sure, I'll keep it in mind
/r/seduction28/05/24 04:41 PM
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If I filter out the dates that were simply catfishes or used me for a free meal or a free ride/activity then the genuine feedback is that I talk too much, don't talk enough/detached, I don't have enough experience and that they aren't looking for a long distance relationship which is the only type of relationship I can afford right now. Guess the "I talk to much" ergs me cause I'm pretty sure I did 20% of the talking and 80% of the listening. Maybe she just couldn't find a polite enough response…
/r/seduction25/05/24 03:25 PM
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Not sure if I think of myself a lesser than them but always taken aback by how much more to them there is than how they described themselves on their profiles.
/r/seduction25/05/24 03:20 PM
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It's been 10 years, what's another 10 years for a slight chance
/r/seduction25/05/24 12:25 AM
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Since we go on dates it's safe to assume they don't have bf so it has to be nr2. They've also always said what they don't like about me and that there will be no 2nd date. At least I'm good enough to be told no instead of being ghosted.
/r/seduction25/05/24 12:19 AM
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There's some wisdom in that, shame that a different timeline is now closed tho
/r/seduction24/05/24 07:40 PM
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Well a tree has 0% chance of using your insecurities and traumas back as a jab against you, so that's comforting. Then again, getting to talk to someone real might be worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:27 PM
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Just a shame about the years I'm missing out on having fun
/r/seduction24/05/24 05:20 PM
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Looking forward is part of the goal but you gotta learn to hope there's someone better up in the future, maybe. Not like I can backtrack as I've missed my shots
/r/seduction24/05/24 05:19 PM
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How does this help handling rejections
/r/seduction24/05/24 04:21 PM
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Get a lexus. Perfect balance between luxury and saving money on your wallet, well the savings part comes and the hope of NOT having to spend money when things break down as it should break far less than any German. I'd say most care about comfort, looks and material feel of a car rather than what's under the hood. I hate Tate but he does have a funny quote. He has to sell his AMG or something cause whenever girl sat in his car, they'd have a similar response of "oh, a mercedes, my mom has one of…
/r/seduction23/05/24 11:56 AM
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About 1 at most, usually only get the conversation going with one in the space of a year
/r/seduction22/05/24 03:19 PM
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Sort of have to agree. I've wanted to ask stuff on womens subReddits but they get auto removed often despite questions being within public rules of that subReddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:03 AM
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Rejections legit make my head spin ffs
/r/seduction21/05/24 11:50 PM
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Define "chemistry." I can't really imagine not having chemistry cause I get along with most people. On dates usually the other way round in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:41 PM
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Kind of a difficult prospect to sympathise with cause the baseline is already that no one finds us pretty nor cares about personality. At least we'd had one half going rather than none
/r/seduction08/05/24 03:54 PM
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It went rather well, especially for a first date. She said I talked too much despite myself thinking consciously I'm trying my hardest to be the listener, I guess I've gotta learn even more and talk not at all.
/r/seduction08/05/24 06:23 AM
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Before we even said goodbye she said there will be no 2nd date.
/r/seduction08/05/24 06:21 AM
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Hopefully but time is running out, am closer to 30 than 20 ffs
/r/seduction07/05/24 10:23 PM
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I average like a date a year at most, kinda self joke I've reached my yearly quota
/r/seduction07/05/24 07:33 PM
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I've yet to talk about any fantasies or far future plans in any of my dates. I try to have the whole date be a listening experience and let her to all the talking but clearly that's still not enough as I talk to much.
/r/seduction07/05/24 04:54 PM
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Sadly more pain seems to be the forecast by everyone
/r/seduction07/05/24 04:25 PM
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That's the thing. How do I break this fake illusion I'm hooked of because I don't know more. I didn't get far enough for her to ruin this idea of her for me, in fact it's so much worse now cause I've seen what could have been.
/r/seduction07/05/24 03:36 PM
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Well from the short interaction it was all perfect. Deadass I'm selling it like a fantasy but it was all perfect from the way she texted, talked, behaved and carried herself. Even the rejection was, well polite. Fuck me I've fumbled to an unrecoverable degree.
/r/seduction07/05/24 03:29 PM
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I'd rather be alone than compromise. I've seen what others can get, why can't I.
/r/seduction07/05/24 03:01 PM
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Not looking good for me then
/r/seduction07/05/24 03:00 PM
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Doubt it, didn't give off casual dating vibes at all and not what I wanted.
/r/seduction07/05/24 02:59 PM
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I already know I need to move on, I just struggle to move on. I feel like no one this good will come along again and I've missed my one shot.
/r/seduction07/05/24 01:25 PM
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Tinder. 1.5h cafe date. Afte the cafe had a walk and half way through she said she's cold and gonna head home. Took her to the bus station and as she climbed in she said there won't be a 2nd date, as I talk too much. Which is fine she can have any reason to not like me but the short date I feel like she did most of the talking. Guess I should not talk about myself at all and whenever someone asks me about something to keep it short and summarised, wrapped up quickly.
/r/seduction07/05/24 11:50 AM
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Gone on dates but still no experiences. In a way it gets worse every time. Last rejection dead ass made me nearly cry on the spot. The fuck is actually wrong with me? Embarrassing shit.
/r/seduction02/05/24 09:14 PM
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No, Europe. Good ratios of men to women in clubs are those age exclusive ones, where men have to be 25+ or 30+ to enter but women only need to be 18 but good luck getting into those as you want to part before getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:17 AM
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They are illegal in some countries but there's always a work around
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:12 AM
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"the occasional" well for some. I've yet to get any after all these years. I really fit the FC3 definition of insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:59 PM
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For me dating apps is all that's left. Bars and clubs are consistently a sausage fest. For every 1 girl I see there's like 10 guys. Old fashioned and most successful way of finding partners which is friends introducing friends and along there being single other friends ready to mingle is extinct. But dating apps is more like a ritual of humiliation and failure. Don't know why I keep going. Waste of money, time and emotional strength every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:47 PM
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I had only one second date and we went on so many afterwards that she then proudly told me it's her 1 year anniversary with her current BF. Apparently I'm completely incapable of reading the room of pursuing anything I set my mind to. The rest have all been of varying success but at best end with being told there'll be no 2nd date when we part ways of I find myself unfriended/unmatched/left of delivered when I bet home. I guess I must be a terrible person.
/r/seduction30/04/24 10:34 PM
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Be happy dude you've gotten further than many others have. You're in top 10% for sure
/r/seduction30/04/24 10:11 PM
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No, I was 16 a decade ago. Again, something like you've just said puts it into perspective how far behind I'm at.
/r/seduction30/04/24 04:40 PM
2

I'm so cooked bro. I already had crippling FOMO at 16 from constantly failing to get laid or get a girlfriend. A decade on I don't even recognise myself. Bigger wreck with every rejection now than before I was even an adult.
/r/seduction30/04/24 04:32 PM
19

Yea, been on a fail streak for the last 10 years. Maybe next year...
/r/seduction30/04/24 06:20 AM
1

So then goes to fix that
/r/seduction30/04/24 06:18 AM
11

Mainly romantic loneliness. General loneliness comes in all shapes and sizes, all forms of friendship that people can be comfortable with that isn't recreated too much with other friends, that's why they're a friend. But romantic interest does come in a shape, well, a checklist at least. Usually by the time this checklist is complete both people will agree they're mutually exclusive and that's when they can form this relationship and the romance of it to their unique tastes. What the solution is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:00 PM
7

No. Everyone thinks I smash just like the rest of them, maybe even more cause I've got a car, had a motorbike and used to be way more carefree with more spare time than them. Years ago at like 24 to a close friend I suggested an implication that I could be a virgin and I received such a staredown, as if I'm a criminal who's been caught. Never again. So I just play along with their sex jokes, yea done X, done it on the bed and couch, of course if went for round 2 and so on... I've faked it so far…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:58 PM
0

Weird, that hasn't happened to me. Thes I focused on women they hadn't returned interest in me ever since
/r/seduction12/04/24 05:26 PM
2

I have a few friendships but they increasingly fizzle out. Mostly because they get into relationships and the conversations and interactions between us fall quiet, until they break up then it'll be like the older days of how often we talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:19 AM
1

Social norms these days don't allow your mentioned location for casual conversation or even meet people. Everybody minds their business and you're the weird one I'd you don't. I'd say it's not as weird though for same sex people to start a conversation that off the opposite one. Just about all women that I know and would want to be around are taken. There are great women out there in the western world but they're all taken or sitting at home playing Sims 4 after work or studies not willing to ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:14 AM
1

Whilst we have to do our part in a relationship I'll agree. Women these days have had far more experience, learned more than us, are far more creative and passionate about an "ideal" relationship that they'll be the ones who can make things feel fresh cause many of us will be happy with the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:41 AM
1

So then what do you talk about to get her to agree to a date
/r/seduction21/02/24 05:48 PM
0

So what's this no man's land that I meant to fill between an empty 0 chats match and one where we have a date arranged? I've tried both asking "when and where" as first texts and at least getting some texts going before asking where to get a drink. Neither work. I've only had success when the conversation is all about me like a narcissist that I get agreement for dates from women but I'd hate for that to be me, that's not me. I guess I just need to adapt to what everyone's looking for these days…
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:40 PM
0

Fake it till you make it. At first I was thinking people were being sarcastic when they said this. Starting to think this is the only way.
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:15 PM
7

So in a way, I really have to first present a version they want and later slowly reveal what I really am?
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:13 PM
2

You forgot about lesbians. They play a big part. Download a strict Hookup/One night stand apps cause curiosity got the better of me and on that platform 90% of the users were women looking for women; lesbians. 9% couples looking for MFM and last 1% would be your straight women. Also backed up in dating, as under 30 most women are in relationships whilst most men aren't. Only leaves lots of lesbian relationships or few guys getting all the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:55 PM
1

Two things. It does affect men but only past a certain age. Men would be weary of a woman who hasn't been in a relationship ever past the age of 30. Throughout history, men have preferred women who haven't been in relationships when they can afford to choose, most of the time to guarantee that their child will be genetically his. The clean slate mentality and preference prevails still.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:34 AM
5

Someone give this gigachad a cookie. Leave some women for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:59 PM
3

That's the crazy part, they somehow are able to just tell. I've even never mentioned my past or lack of it and out of nowhere they'll say the "you don't have much experience do you" line and it's all over. Admit it or deny it, lose lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:55 PM
6

If true then a sad reality, can't win or catch a break
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:46 PM
1

Yea, incel is mostly used to describe men who haven't had sex and that's a key identifier. Now also used to describe men who haven't had sex AND hate women, but just hating women on its own is still called being a misogynist or woman hater, not necessarily an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 09:34 PM
1

Incel started out as "involuntary celibate" someone who's forced to be celibate against their will. Can be anyone, not just men. This was a niche label, discussion topic on various forums from 2000's to the late 2010's. Around just prior to the pandemic the self described "incel" demographic shifted to being overwhelmingly male dominated. As far as I know there's no one particular reason but just the right time for all things to blow up at once, sitting at home all day, tinder stats of how barel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:27 PM
5

Society tackling "this" for me would be an effort into ensuring better financial conditions for the younger generations, as they can barely afford rent after it eats up 75% of their monthly wage as compared to older generations who could afford a house, a car, several kids and a wife that's not allowed to work. We're becoming a three tiered society. The 1% rich. The rich and the borderline modern slaves stuck in a system we won't get out of who have no time to socialise like people used to, only…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:40 PM
1

Female incel. Recently male and female have been split up due to incels now becoming automatically associated with incels being specifically only male and often due to reasoning why someone isn't having sex being significant enough between the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:31 PM
10

Have us be in a better economical situation so we can afford to socialise and enjoy the teenager to young adult life how it's meant to. Then everything will fall into place on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:46 PM
2

There will be a rise of femcels in the future without a doubt but due to a better social structure supporting women there'll be less likely to go through with such acts, as well as most women knowing they lack the strength of men to carry out attacks through brute force like it is the go to for most men. Femcels knowing they lack the physical strength will carry out much more stealthy acts of damage and terrorism, then have to look ag alternatives like setting up people to have their lives ruine…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:41 PM
57

Society doesn't care to tackle this and even if they did there isn't the money for it. This will continue and we'll just have to witness how this general disproportion in loneliness evolves. Like personally I think the future rise in extremism and violence won't be related to loneliness, just a coincidence. Plenty of other factors that we can see extremism rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:39 AM
3

2008 economic collapse caused the death of 3rd spaces. I'd go bowling, playing pool or participate in other activities if they didn't cost an arm and a leg. Compared to our parents and grandparents, only the kids of the 10% are able to afford to go out and socialise. Text messages or no text messages wouldn't have an impact on this, in fact if social places were still affordable then with technology you'd have even more people socialising.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:44 AM
2

Problem with this criteria is that the definition of a "good man" can change. So it's a polarising mixture of women raising their standards yet for some reason often choosing wrong and giving a guy way below their requirements a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:05 PM
13

Wasn't she the one who said unnatractive men have no right to be so confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:40 AM
1

I'm guessing most answers will be along the lines of no due to not wanting to go through the hassle of going through the learning phase again. A sort of self fulfilling loop where he needs prior experience to get action but will only let him have action if he has prior relationship/sex experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:49 AM
5

And what about ever? This is just last year. For all we know the 17% could have stayed in that bracket for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:24 AM
2

A whole bunch of biases here, especially the ones saying men will be dishonest all the time in pursuing sex. Women don't have to take birth control, it's their own free will. I'd say out all the girl friends I know, maybe one takes birth control? Many don't and force their boyfriend to rely on a condom instead. Women shaving legs is also optional, I know some women who don't and they even have boyfriends/husbands. It's not all downsides. Men aren't guaranteed to have great sex always. Do it wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:09 AM
27

Most of us are just not enough. There's always better options for the girls we'd want to show to our parents and for the crazy girls we're just too boring with no drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:21 AM
0

4+
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:24 AM
1

Watch porn, don't watch porn, the outcome is the same. From prom, and all other events I've just been background filler, just existing. I haven't ever held hands and that's something even kids get to do. Train's gone. So in the lack of the real thing never coming true, all I have left is to resort to the fake thing, and it is fake cause its turned up to 11 with the downsides removed. If imma jerk off regardless if I had orange YouTube or not. What's the alternative? Look at the wall or ceiling w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:30 PM
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If blocking their accounts and numbers count as rejection before we had too long of a conversation then yes, I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:17 AM
1

A life long partner will meet more of your needs than just money. I don't know anyone who marries strictly for money. And marriage is a no compromise thing. From the things you're mentioning those deals aren't good enough to marry. Sounds like you'd enjoy marrying a woman more...?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:00 PM
39

No, this one sided deflection of "it's a men problem so men fix it" is exactly why the issue is so prevalent. Twist it the other way, would you say the same thing about women's issues? A woman might be scared to go alone at night through a high crime rate gang territory and the solution is one that only she can solve? Pretty sure to make that place safe you'd need both men to quit that part of life and involve society like police. Women aren't at fault for the situation society is in, especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:15 AM
2

You got evolution wrong. When the weaker being of a species start falling behind, they don't just evolve and catch up with the rest. They fall behind and die out, leaving only the better ones surviving which then set a new minimum baseline. What will happen in the future is just a guessing game.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:48 PM
1

But how can you demonstrate that you've changed when the other side wants nothing to do with you cause you're still a red flag, one that hasn't had experience so because of that you won't get any experience to show that you've changed...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:48 PM
2

That's the irony I'm pointing at. You say everyone sees you as a red flag so get out there and catch up, but you can't catch up as everyone sees you as a red flag. This is a catch 22 loop. How can one get out of this loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:24 PM
1

And a lot of men fear they're in this too old to be inexperienced group. Easy to say that they're a red flag, is there at least a course of action?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:32 PM
2

Sexual conquests defining a man and the lack of them emasculating men is very normalised in society. A borderline trope and too often the butt of cheap jokes, ever more reinforcing the hostile views so many are affected by.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:24 AM
1

Seems like they very much don't want somebody no one else wanted. Many stories of guys getting no action or attraction from women. The moment those same ones see him with a gf all the sudden many of them are friendly, some even too friendly and a threat to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:18 AM
1

Can't comment if women prefer very experienced men as that must mean he's slept around a lot but also in my experience women being turned off and getting the ick when they find out you're inexperienced is a huge deal breaker in many cases. Admitting that you're inexperienced, even avoiding the topic or hinting at it has always ended the conversation right there and then, no matter how well it was going. And you'd always would have thought that this would be a positive thing, a clean slate... It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:36 AM
2

Well "average" can be skewed easily by heavy outliers. Something similar like a mode would be far more useful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:58 PM
6

Ain't no way people are getting laid that often 4-7 body count is insanely high
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 02:30 AM
-1

It's used for everyone not just women, easiest way to quantify something that doesn't physically exist and is merely a social exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:39 AM
4

90% of what I watch is girls going solo which is still other men fucking her? If I watch our own recorded video it's still other men fucking her? Weird logic but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:29 PM
6

But hard to imagine cause I'm a pro condom guy so she won't need to be on the pill, responsibility is on the dude but if I've already had all the kids we could want then I don't see a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 12:24 AM
1

As long as it's not self destructive I don't see an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:14 PM
1

Pretty much my whole perspective on why at least men have a hard time dating. The 3rd spaces left that a young adult can actually go to are enthusiast ones that need planning for and aren't a casual setting, I'm thinking Airsoft, bike riding, hiking and so on. A place where you can meet the opposite sex without your friend group are just not an option anymore. Clubs and the rest of 3rd spaces that have survived are extremely expensive these days, that's why predrinks exist, to minimise the cost …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:51 PM
7

When you mean desperate you don't mean obsessive. Obsessive is too much in the controlling type, but making you the nr 1 priority on its own doesn't seem too bad as long as the rest of the things in her life aren't suffering because of me like her relationships with her friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:58 AM
1

Pretty sure a milder way to describe someone with a crippling porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:47 PM
1

Correlation is not causation. Sure, there might be less and less men to date than before but I'm pretty sure the reason women are having a harder time finding a partner is because their standards are not only rising but they're less willing to compensate on any of these requirements than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:43 PM
6

So far no. I've met only 3 girls that I've felt light headed for. Nothing in return. One told me she only wants a friend as she already has a boyfriend...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:56 PM
1

Depends on how much experience I have when I reach the ideal self. If I'm then as inexperienced as I am now would probably the best time to play around and catch up on life. If I've already experienced something definitely aim to settle down. Might be sick of road trips and traveling by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:24 PM
1

Just because he's with a different girl every month doesn't mean the girl is the girl of your dreams, a different one, each month... I know a guy who rotates a new girlfriend every 3-6 months. He gets laid far more than me and looking at his Snapchat and Instagram stories he has way more of an active lifestyle that I simply cannot afford, in both affording the thing in the first place and bills back at home while I'm away. But good on him bro. Those girls, I wouldn't want do be in a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:36 PM
1

Thanks for the time to post but got a mean of 5 for how many people women have slept with, wtf is so high damn 💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:46 AM
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A harmless man might not conform to their definitions of what a man is, so when they encounter something that challenges their presumptions they'll hate it as a threat to invalidate their past beliefs. Some people just can't be changed as they want to live their life one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:27 AM
2

I dunno, as someone who's been active my whole life there's ton of male spaces. Sure, none can exist pure men only due to non discrimination laws but it's still a rarity that it'll become a shared space one night. In a way with the polarisation of either gender, men and women seems to willingly not intermix with their spaces to the point where I'll go to events, parties, nightclubs, car meets and so on and barely see and girls. The only ones there will be ones their man brought along with them f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:29 AM
-12

Your own place and a car in this economy? Good joke. Perspective from rich dudes is as obvious as saying water's wet.
/r/seduction16/07/23 08:34 PM
3

Yes and they're irrelevant to what my comments were about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:24 PM
12

I've read studies, had to do my own studies. The fact that male virginity and male sexual assault victims being a cheap, degrading comedy sketch for most of Hollywood for the last 30+ years isn't anything imagined or a fantasy, it's reality. It's normalised, nowadays borderline expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:14 PM
5

I'd say it's been a mainstream thing for the last 10 years at least. Even longer when you look at Hollywood and who's the butt of jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:05 PM
1

I'd say since that yellow bikini ad that started the outrage, when people would virtue signal that actually no one cares about one's body, and is actively oppressive if anyone advertises desirable bodies, some have taken this social mentality in themselves and morphed their beliefs around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:35 AM
12

Because the baseline has also evolved. If the first generation 0-10's get to compete and only dudes good enough to be 8+ get to have kids, next time round in 2nd generation, it'll be 8-12's who compete, 8 becoming the new 0 and repeat after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:10 AM
1

I've crushed on 2 women before. Had my first crush from around 2008-2016 and the last one from 2016 to a few months ago. To me they were above 10's yet my friends when seeing them didn't bat an eye. My conclusion is that they were your plain Jane's and I was hooked on something more personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:59 AM
1

Just a self preservation strategy. Same for women. If one man in every 10'000 men is a kidnapper, women will be cautious with every man they meet. Same thing here. If a false accusation is game over for your life and only one woman per 10'000 will falsely accuse you, I think it's still reasonable to be weary of all women just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:04 AM
2

Good on you man. A different conclusion for me tho, I fear I'm ugly AND I get no matches, all that's left in the equation is that I must be ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:03 AM
82

When men are often excluded and made fun of for being a virgin, it's no surprise that they'll take a hawkish stance that they want equal exclusivity in return. Especially in an age where everyone's often on a societal level reminded how easy it is to get casual sex, very easy to feel like it's you vs the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:12 AM
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Shame it took me this many replies to realise that I'm talking to a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:22 PM
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Phrases are irrelevant. Cosmetics, clothes, healthcare/beauty products won't sell just because there's a smart phrase in there. "Health is wealth" as a phrase means nothing if you can't objectively prove that being healthy saves money. Uncanny valley has been well documented. Beauty tropes exist for a reason, from being able to tell a person on their physical health to even their genetical health. Conscious biases can of course sway, even override subconscious preferences but they'll remain ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:36 PM
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It has been, is and will be objective. If there wasn't even a hint of objectivity in beauty then there wouldn't be billion dollar industries built around beauty. Yes, there van still be outliers like in any objective recording. Yes, beauty can vary by culture and region, yet they still follow objective patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:21 PM
2

There are objective measurements of attraction, best is the lack of deviation from the norm and symmetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:01 AM
1

Nothing will change except the scale at which custom made content is generated. Meaning, the same OF custom orders that are expensive because they take time to make, will now become cheap because it's generated in seconds. In terms of ruining what? Porn? It's been fake for decades now and nothing will change. If you want something real then neither porn nor auto-generated stuff is the thing you need, then it's a real human connection you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:19 AM
1

For most cases not initially but I believe they'll develop feelings for her eventually, simply on the basis that men have these sort of friendship rarely, and will mistake affection for just friendly care. Unless there's some outer factor, like being related, conflicts with deal-breakers or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:56 AM
2

Societal. Men are raised that they have to protect a weaker sex. Not only socially but this reflected culturally, from which side of the pavement they're meant to walk on, evacuation protocols to wars. There comes a point where you don't even think about and just put yourself first in line of danger, cause that's expected from you on every level, has been all your life and will till you die. You'll get ostracized if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:47 PM
1

There's two possible options here. If her content was fucking strangers then just straight up no. If she did OF contents with her face hidden, only did solo stuff, is literally a selfless angel who understands and comes to term with that she's done and why, then it's just a maybe not. Tough call
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:51 AM
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No. I want to be wanted. Sex is just a natural by product of a healthy relationship. Many men want sex because it should imply that the relationship is going great.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:05 AM
4

There's a ton of old men in clubs, your 50's sure. Seems like many clubs are even orientated to be a place where old men can hook up with young women. Remember being denied entry to so many clubs because I wasn't 25 or older but the 18y old girls who tagged along with us were let in with no issue. A lot of clubs are rigged in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:06 AM
3

Didn't know Iceland carried out the Holocaust
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:34 AM
8

I'm a zoomer. I don't approach women, nor do any of my friends. What their reasons for not approaching is, I've no clue but for me it's the fear that I'll get accused of rape or assault just because I said hi.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:28 AM
1

There aren't any genuine social places where both genders can mix and meet up. All the ones I go to are heavily male dominated, any that are left are places where people usually go in groups and stay in groups, sort of standoffish if anyone wants to join. Don't have the necessary exposure to meet women and potentially find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:09 AM
1

-Cam girls -Onlyfans Girls (cheap- like 4-$15 usd a month) -Sex toys- fleshlights, dolls etc -Strip clubs -Topless waitressing -Prostitutes (if available where you are) These only exist if you are extremely rich, like have $100 to waste a month. Yes, personal bias, and prostitues are even more expensive, don't they like start at $400 an hour? Not spending a week I slaved away for an hours worth of fun. ​ -Casual sex from tinder -Casual sex from clubbing/nightlife That's only if you have enough g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:10 PM
1

You'd know before hand. Women who have spent the years learning and in return got some degree talk, carry themselves, relate to themes and ideas differently from those who haven't, especially those who dropped out from education. Like, a woman who's a CEO won't go out on a first date to a McDonald's...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:13 PM
6

Not a problem. Not like she chose to share then online, she had a boundary and a promise that intimate photos or videos were to remain private between them and both of them were broken. You said it yourself, HER consent was broken. That would be the same as giving your car to someone for the day and some 3rd party crashing into them. Would be insane if her driving your cars are now off limits forever... Awfully specific details tho, need help with anything...?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:58 AM
1

In a way it is but I can't imagine a scenario where a woman would have to lie. Maybe in a case where she knows she can only get into a relationship with a guy as he's only looking for a virgin, but that's not a requirement of mine so not something to consider. Since there's no public who has sex database there no real way of knowing. Maybe from time to time there's a minimum confirmation like from sex stories and so on, but in general you can only make assumptions. She's been in a mutually ackno…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:37 PM
1

If they say they're a virgin I'd trust them. If they're lying, all I can say is shame that I was lied to about something so intimate and only thing left if that maybe their guilty conscience slowly eats away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:23 PM
1

Those being...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:26 PM
5

Snapchat game's worse cause when you do meet up it's awkward as shit. You could take your time to reply back to a flirty text, in real life, you don't have the comfort of a screen and no pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:23 AM
7

Difficult part's where they don't show interest back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:22 AM
2

5% let's go. Now I just gotta push up into the 5% of men myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:36 AM
1

To me, feminine women are one with a softer approach to life, especially when it comes to friendships, relationships. Even just my simple friendships with women are far more closer and intimate than even friendships with my closest guy friends. Feminine women to me aren't loud, which the stereotype is pretty self explanatory. A tad bit perfectionist, not high maintenance in the term but certainly take care of themselves. I'd add also cautious. In the sense of who she hangs around with. This impl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:26 AM
7

No, I'm a strong believer in condoms, even to the point where I think less women should have to bear the brunt of being on the pill or something and just more men using condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:28 AM
1

Depends on age. I'd say one body per year. If it were a maths equation I'd say if your body count is less than: your age - 16 then you're good, not a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:59 PM
1

Not for everyone, for me and my friends it's 75% exercise and 25% diet. Saw far more weight loss and muscle gain going to the gym every other day and eating McDonald's after than little exercise and having a strict deficit diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 11:55 PM
2

Yea, I'd think that being in a public setting or with friends would also make the situation safer for her, to be able to reject you in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:17 PM
2

Is there a cut-off where if he was still a virgin you'd reconsider the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:05 AM
2

Let's say one flirts well, is all up in your business and the other one's far more reserved, borderline waiting for you to make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:02 AM
6

When are you posting the results
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:11 AM
4

The bride walking down the aisle with her father for him to bring her to her new husband. Before women got their rights, their last name was an indication of where she belongs, who's gonna protect her. No longer under the wing of her father but now he husband's.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:36 PM
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I never said it was wrong nor that you owe changing your last name to your husbands. There is a bit of irony however not wanting to change you last name yet still wanting to do the ceremony that symbolises you changing your last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 06:48 PM
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That's not the case at all. Wrong. Back in the day, a father passed her daughter down the aisle to her new husband to signify that she'll be safe and start a new chapter. Women didn't have any rights back then. The safety umbrella was the new surname that her husband guaranteed. Sure, women now have rights and have no need for a husband just to ensure she can live well but the whole ceremony still exists to compensate her surname changing. If she wants to keep her surname and marry under two dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:55 PM
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Equal gender roles. I don't think many women realise how deep they go, any pretty much only argue about surface level stuff. One I see over and over again is weddings, especially when the wife doesn't want to take on her husband's surname yet still wants the classical wedding where she gets brought in by her father to her husband with a veil. Many claim taking on a different surname is no longer equal... The whole point of this ceremony is to celebrate the change of surnames. And let not even st…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:32 PM
2

The unacceptable is two things. First, in many male circles, sexual conquests are sort of directly correlated to how I guess "cool" a guy is. The less sex you have, god forbid you haven't even had sex, the less of a man you are. Nobody wants to be the least respected guy in their circles. Second, right now, men are constantly reminded that they're in a virginity crisis, that it's like a lottery ticket to get laid let alone find someone good enough while apparently women have it all easy, having …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:06 PM
2

That sex to you just means the stereotypical acts and they're enough to fully satisfy you. No need for anything more intense that many men claim woman want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:06 PM
1

So the things that you find yourself wanting to do, others might call you vanilla for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:58 AM
2

So cliché still feels like a joke. So basically the fun starts after you found your partner not before him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 11:55 AM
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Thread is marked as "questions for men" so there's only onr option I can be without getting deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 08:24 AM
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Problem is different people have a different criteria for what it means to be "equal." To some it's having equal laws regarding of sex differences and niches, for others an "equal" sociaty is a patriarchal or matriarcal one. To many this would never be equal. Unless all people agree on one definition of what it means to be as equals, no equal society can exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:11 PM
2

Being wanted. Can't imagine imagine what it's like when someone else makes plans and wants to something with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:47 PM
1

Two types of guys. weirdos who just want their gf to not have any social media presence. 99% of the time this is for alterior motives, like her not knowing what's happening on the outside world, being exposed to other ideas and so on. Gives a dog on a chain vibes. Guys who think twice, because too many women overshare intimate moment on social media for all sorts of strangers to see. Ultrasounds, face of baby the first 10 minuts of them being born, bought a new house, bought a new car, had an ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:32 PM
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Sex is an everyday occurrence. god damn no need to flex us on so hard. Aight, I get it sex haver... Some small gesture. If it's a gift, maybe something small that can enhance his every day routine. If a meal, maybe his favorite meal he hasn't had in ages? Like a family recipe maybe only rarely brought out, only on celebrations etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:23 PM
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That's only because we get to know of them falling for fake news. Same thing for scams and other troubles in life. Amount of scams haven't increased, we've just been able to document it more and talk more openly about being scammed. Back in the day idiotic beliefs stayed within the family or a small community. One town over you'd never know about them, now with the internet, you get to learn about a hermit living on the other side of the world who hasn't left his flat in the last 30 years...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 03:16 AM
6

There's a difference between not being attracted to people not up to your standards and being porn sick. One just isn't turned on and the other is willing to pass up on life's opportunities just to rub one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 01:58 AM
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Ok dud. Big Bad Automation won't get rid of a ton of jobs nor make the population more dumb. I'd wager to say this is the best time in history for a lack of stupid people. More than even people can read and not fall to fake news. Does that mean there aren't people who fall for that stuff, of course not, but we're at a stage where the average stupid individual is far less stupid than someone 500 years ago. And for automation, we'll just shift the jobs around, from wiping down tables to wiping dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 01:56 AM
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It is sort of difficult cause many of them distance themselves once they get into relationships. Bit frustating to get judged on a situation that you have no control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:39 PM
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Same, I like girls who like me as well. Shame so far no one's been receptive or shown interest back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:31 PM
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That's where the resentment comes from for a lot of men. FWB is praised so much but a ton of men haven't had the chance to try this out. Me neither. I'm mid twenties. Would love to gain at least some confidence from a FWB situation but doesn't seem like that'll be the case. All this acknowledgement of how valuable no strings attacked are to finding out who you are yourself as a basic first step is amplify the fear of missing out so many have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:27 PM
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And that's exactly what you asked for tho...? Why point out that it's my personal experience and not a general rule of life when you specifically asked for my experience? And I wouldn't agree that it's a cliché, certainly more universal, even the odd research backs this up, at least in the current way education is institutionalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:27 PM
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I wouldn't say so. Physical changes, growth including the brain alone can help someone mature faster and have a better understanding of their surroundings and use this understanding to learn even more. We can argue what are the reasons that make girls grow up earlier than boys, which very often is a heated topic, some say obesity, some say social pressure or danger but either way not what this conversation is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:24 PM
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I think a lot of people forget that women mature way earlier than men do, so often age gap is rarely to do with life experience but rather being on the same page logically. Of course just like a rule there are exceptions but I have always related more in women several years younger than me, not only from goals, aspirations, how the can carry a conversation but to even how we talk and the thought process or understanding of emotions. Yea, it's easier to relate and "vibe" with a younger woman beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:54 PM
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20% is still an extremely high number, not far from the 30% peak that was given a few years ago. Gotta tell me where these surveys are done, need to pump those rookie numbers past 30% again
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:33 AM
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B definitely. I'd still worry if I'm good enough to satify my partner if her previous was so good, but if I am in a relatioship with her, then clearly it's up to par for that not to be a problem. Also good sex requires great communication, an inclination to believe she'd be able to communicate what she wants just as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:07 PM
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Yea no, not gonna throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks. No point in wasting energy asking out women purely for the sake of doing so, reaching some meaningless weekly number. ​ If someone comes along that actually interests me then sure but that's a rare occurance. So many people seems so boring these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:18 PM
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0.04 then I guess. I don't go around asking random women if they want a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:14 PM
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Is this a joke about Romania? Cause Andrew Tate's there? Yea no, not gonna happen. Pretty sure your imagined 30 year old man's gonna have a harder time than some place like the west. Eastern Europeans aren't shy to do street justice or take matters into their own hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:11 PM
2

For about 10 years, let's say 2 dates a year
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:54 PM
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And what if you've accepted yourself for what you are and still go years without a relationship, let alone getting laid? What else is there for me to let go of?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:25 PM
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Old expression of love have fefinitely died in the mainstream, doesn't mean you can't still look for one who's also looking for something more popular in the generations prior. Watch kids in 2100 also ask others "is romance dead? No one sends texts, facetimes or grab a quick McDonald's on a night out..." Due to the uncertainty of the future, the past is always idealised as having all the solutions that were lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:53 AM
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What bars so you go to? Bars, clubs and events I get a chance to go are more like 30:1 male to female ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:08 AM
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To many, the settling for a woman with a nice guy implies that the woman got to complete her bucket list of things she wanted in life, here most often implying a list of sexual experiences she wanted to see first hand and now that's done, she'll settle with a "nice" guy. Nice guy often categorised as someone who has close to no luck in dating, thus also no luck completing his bucket list of sexual fantasies as the previous step is required. If a relationship is to start after a woman's ready to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:44 AM
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I'd say women have 1-3 extremely close friends who will know everything about each other and will trust each other till the end. Not always guaranteed as even those bridges can burn. As for social circles? At least before marriage I'd say women have some 20~ close friends that they can call up in the middle of the night and that shouldn't be a problem for other individual. After marriage some friends might fall off but they get replaced with the new relatives. After some 30's I'd say that number…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:07 PM
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Depends on the reason why. Is it to undo some external factor like masking up a scar? A medical reason to reduce breasts because they're too heavy? Wouldn't have a problem. Get bigger breasts, lips or smaller nose because you're chasing some vain photoshopped beauty standard? No. I'm slowly losing the YOU. If a woman can't feel comfortable in her own body, I'd also worry that this struggle might be ingrained to our kids as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:36 AM
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A measurable, categorisable way of what what's high value? I feel like most guys are just commenting what they're attracted to not necessarily what differentiates one attraction form another. I'd say a woman who has a great ability to self reflect on her own behaviour, even more so when to admit that she's in the wrong. Degree of drive, critical thinking and standarts for self worth I'd say are also distinguishing quality that certainly make a woman a more unique, memorable individual. Hard to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:19 AM
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What if the porn that he watches is where girl plays with just herself? A solo I think is the term. Still the same screaming beta as watching other men fuck women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:27 AM
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Entirely depends on why he's following said models and what content they post. I follow a few models. Only one of them sort of posts something risque from time to time, the rest post aesthetic photographs that where everything from dress to the background looks nice because the colour palettes match, lifestyles remind us of good principles and generally would go well on my moodboard. If a man's feed only consists of models who also have onlyfans on the side, that's pretty blatant. If he's also o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:24 AM
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They can comment without proof so there's no weight to their comments. Sounds more like a place where women write their fan fics of what a guy might have been like if they dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:08 AM
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I'm not against sex toys, they exist for a reason but sometimes I do want to be the sole reason why my partner orgasms. That's like me spending 2h making a delicious meal for an occasion just to have my partner tell me they'll add ketchup to their plate cause they just like how much more flavour it adds to the dish. I won't stop them but it is a sign that the best I've tried to do is just not enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:14 PM
4

Not married still implies that one's in a relationship so not single or alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:10 PM
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What a doomer post, to learn that all this time it wasn't something out of my control struggle that many share.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:48 AM
2

I feel like being fake is gonna cause far more troubles down the road than just being truthful about it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:08 AM
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So you're saying there's still a chance at a relationship surviving if she finds out several months into it that you're still a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:20 AM
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Thinking more about it, no one reaches out to me. I've had a second date, even a sixth date with someone who's just a friend now. Not complaining. Yea, I guess everything's a one way street. I'd always organise everything. If I was to leave the ball in their court they'll never respond. In the meantime I guess I'll just fully focus on work. Maybe make a name for myself and then return to dating to begin all this again
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:35 AM
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Oh I don't, haven't. Women still see through my avoidance in the questions or lack of personal take to add to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:20 AM
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That's exactly what I said. Seems like women are uninterested in men who haven't had the change to gain sexual experience yet, are unable to also learn any because they haven't experienced any in the first place. A vicious cyce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:18 AM
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If I knew what the problem was I wouldn't be in this situation. Feels like I'm stuck in the "need experience to get a job but need a job to get experience" self fulfilling loop. In a self defeating explanation, guess my standarts are just too high and don't have the balls to put myself out there often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:16 AM
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Sort of funny, as in my experience a lot of women get bored and borderline ghost me the moment they find out I have little, to be exact, no experience and that's trying to look for relationship material not hook-ups. Hook-ups I might understand, no one wants a clueless one night stand but even for a long term relationship? I hope that's just a bad streak of luck on my end but so far from personal experience, very contracting from what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:12 PM
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Maybe, but arguably you're also fairly awkward if you keep going, trying to strike a conversation even when it's long dead. Better let a conversation die than be sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:23 PM
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Not that I've seen, well haven't seen anyone stutter but I'd say they are less talkative than me for sure. I don't think not talking because you have nothing to talk about makes them necessarily awkward but definitely a missed shot if none a taken so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:28 PM
3

I have but the atmosphere in pubs, bars clubs and elsewhere is just shit, on top of that it's rare to find a woman I'm actually interested in and want to talk to. Pushing for a kiss feels too daunting. No one's ever been really eager to be anything more. Sort of comfortable and familiar with the status quo of getting to know each other while never being physically close.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:20 PM
2

And over 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:06 PM
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I've been on about 30 dates, none have worked out, a lot of them were catfish setups or used me as an entry point to get with my friends. Casual sex is a no go, women are immediately disinterested if you lack experience. No one seems to want to go through the hassle of teaching a guy. I'm in my mid twenties. Haven't been in a relationship, haven't had sex, not even a kiss. From my experience this seems to be a pretty common trope amongst men these days. Even for my friends. I have some 10 close …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:59 AM
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That's not a problem, and yes to both. Some clashes might happen in terms of where the money should go and be spent, I have several goals in life but if they're at conflict to the main breadwinner, does she have more of a say or are we both equals, even if she earns way more. Difficult to theorise what would actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:52 PM
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It's almost as if the men are there only for one thing and paying their money to skip over the process and get down to some action. I go to the dentist to have my teeth looked at immediately, not pay for an appointment to be told we should take it slow, get to know each other first... Same thing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:36 AM
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Acquaintances due to friends of friends. Hang around often enough, become friends. If there was a sign of flirting for at least several numerous occasions, I'd try to make a move, signal that I'm interested. Always got a hard shoulder followed by how goes of a friend and listener I am for a period of time. Then go back to being friends but it's never the same because I put myself out there and tried to be intimate. Now I just never try to have anything more than a friendship. Can't be friend zon…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:25 AM
0

66% 100% At least that's been the self report from the women I've talked to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:22 AM
2

You've given us such free choice for guys. I don't like to set defined limits before I even know them but sure. Similar height to me, never been with a woman taller than me but I'm willing to try. face I notice eyebrows? Now that I have to define what I lay attention I don't really know. A bit of an enabler? Say yes to more things. Let's live a little, be a bit spicy but still safe and comfortable, make some memories. I'll take any pair of boobs, really not picky. If I had to define sure, as lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:52 PM
2

This gender imbalance only applies in a world where all these minority his would be attractive 6 pack messy long hair oversized clothes men but shocker, since boys already do badly academically compared to girl, guess what type of boy is most likely to get in? Correct, the type of dude who doesn't go out, sits inside all day doing his computer science/maths/engineering coursework. They're not attractive and aren't gonna get laid. So called nerds aren't cute and have never been. Most of these wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:17 PM
2

Of course it exist. Friend zone even exists for women as well, they just call it a situationship. Same concept. One party wants to take it further while the other doesn't acknowledge or shut down ones attempts to take things further.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:46 AM
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I'd say this submissive logic is on a scale, it'd be more of a scale of more responsibilities the more he might be "desired." A lot of women I know, however fiercely indipendent, still often enough want the man in the relationship to make many of the decitions. From where you'll be eating out, who starts the conversation first with strangers, drives both of them home safely, plans ahead and is the reasurring shoulder to stand on in case something happens and that he'll be the one to resolve an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 11:07 PM
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Not actually that big of a drop. If it dropped to like 5-10% then maybe it might back up all these claims of a sexless crysis
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:00 PM
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But isn't this a question about how fun of a sex life people have had? I think most would agree, the older you are, the wiser, more stable and knowledgeable you are and life becomes far more enjoyable but many here are also arguing that no matter how good everything else is, sex itself will never be as wild or fun when you yourself were just barely legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:48 PM
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They still want captain america not captain nerd. Quality of life in foreign countries is now significantly better. Just look at eastern europe or east asia. They no longer fall heels over you just because you're a foreigner. Source, read some dude bros's who left for Europe and Asia, thought they'd get some cheap pussy but not many of them are wanting to return cause they're getting beat by local competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:47 PM
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Many of these spammers don't actually want to have their viewpoints validated or challenged, they just want to emotionally dump their feeling on how they see the world via shit meme reposts and move on. The post abandonment is insane. By the time you post a comment they've spammed 3 more shitposts already. Also teaches us that many are far too down the shitter to have their viewpoints changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:49 PM
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So instead of women being able to sleep casually around with anyone they want in a foreign country, you'd rather have them stuck in a warzone, get raped and executed like some cattle by invading troops? God you've got your values truly fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:06 AM
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With the same logic, why doesn't OP date a girl who sleeps with two different dudes every day to try and change her views instead of judging...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:01 AM
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Real men want their women as far away from the front lines as possible. If that means them leaving their country so they don't get missiles shot at them, isn't that the bare minimum. If you actually cared for women this would be a pretty logical answer. 3h and still no op. Delete post for abandonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:50 AM
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Nothing to compare against. It's all just women. Pretty sure if you put men on the same chart, they'd be the same when it comes to partner count, happiness and STD rates
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:23 AM
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Why has this sub been flooded with so much low tier copy paste trash memes? Perfect moment to strike while mods take a new years break
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:17 AM
0

How convenient that they tell us nothing about what the 2000 respondents are like
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:06 AM
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It's all in the face. Since that's censored not much to go off on. Unflattering angles aren't helping. Body wise it's all good, just the face is gonna make or break it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:20 AM
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I'd actually say you're unaware of the harshe reality that most of your "wifey material" women already had someone locked in for a relationship from 16-26 and are already in a relationship, even married. Other guys have already found someone, cashed out and are building a healthy relationship with a good head start. The trains gone for you, all you can do is double down again cause you're in too deep with too much to lose. The women left now are far less than what you had when you were sleeping …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:28 PM
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I won't have the paper on hand now but a few papers (2018 was last update) who did research on people 18-30 who have never had sex, men went past the 30%. Women were on the rise as well but for the 2nd time in a row men were at double the rate compared to women. As for personal evidence? The rate for relationshipless, sexless/inexperienced seems to also be double for my guy friends compared to the women I know. This one has less weight as it's pretty much a subjective observation unless they con…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:39 AM
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Virginity for men is rising at a disproportionate rate compared to women, and knowing people in my own life, the statistics seem to collaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:58 AM
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You must be a god amounts men if every date you've been on results in sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:45 PM
1

Different attitudes to life is the best in a nutshell example I can think off? A lot of my friends who don't have higher education certificates have different values, perspectives and goals they're trying to reach compared to one's who do have higher education. Lifestyles and attitudes vary a lot, having or not having a higher education degree is a easy way to group these people, thus filter them as well. Not saying one is more inferior than other, just that comparability and relatibility can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 09:28 PM
12

That's like 1/4th of a good takeaway
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:36 AM
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Those women who make me feel like I'm on cloud nine, I couldn't care less how they change visually. If their weight gain gets in the way of activities we might want to do, I'd definitely be dissapointed but not a dealbreaker. But meeting women like that is truly a rare occasion. I legit think many men haven't felt like that thus don't know feeling and don't know there can be other ways to fall in love with someone other than how she makes him feels when he looks at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:34 AM
14

There is logic, logic being that they dream to be so good, godlike that women will make them the exception
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:15 PM
5

Depends how far Into a relationship we are. If it's just a few months then likely a no go. I've barely learned enough about you and to have a whole new you? It'd be a bit too much. It'd also matter to know how far this injury/illness goes. Some routine change and extra steps isn't too bad like a wheelchair, crutches or some bags one might have to carry around. Having to rebuild the whole house, car and life because someone bedridden never able to leave their house let alone room, would be too mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:10 PM
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The only people missing out are the ones who want to sleep around but aren't getting any. To a dude who has no interest in casual sex and just wants to work 15 years on an oil rig and earn millions in the process won't be missing out because that's not what he wants to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:31 AM
0

Only men who aren't that high on the social level to begin with and haven't had much success themselves are the ones who care about her body count. If you're rich, popular and have a lot of social interactions will be too preoccupied meeting people, even getting laid to not only not worry about body count but likely have a body count himself to the point where it'd be hypocritical to put significance on it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:22 AM
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Men don't ask just like that. They always conclude to an estimate based on their knowledge of your past relationships and how intimate they think they were. The only time a man really asks is if he's a relationship with that woman in the first place. And that is to only to confirm if his estimates were correct or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:08 AM
2

Discussing with the women that I know, indecisiveness is one of the most unattractive traits a man can have. Many prefer a decision there and then in the moment, even if the decision is to decide later. I guess "confidence" is just an umbrella term that includes someone who's not indecisive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:41 AM
1

To a modern couple it's either completely meaningless because there's different priorities when it comes to work, work life balance and working towards different statuses like owning a home or the ultimate status symbol because in this economy it's pretty much a minimum necessary for two people to work to keep afloat. Majority of the population I think are in these two groups, with the occasional exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:16 AM
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Sure, it might seem that way that the standarts are higher. Not nice to but you gotta look at why. ​ Is it because the stakes are much higher now? Far more to lose generational wealth in this economy? Since women now hold a lot of wealth, they also have a lot to lose. Is it because women have seen the peak man/relationship that is out there? Is it because back then they didn't have the freedom to be picky? Had to pick the next best man that comes along to get "out?" Is is becaues men have fallen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:49 PM
2

Women saying they like dad bods isn't virtue signalling, just a misplacement of perceptions. Most women think a dad bod is and are attracted to plenty enough to men is just the normal athletic build. Either women have to realise most are calling their preference by the wrong type, or men have to make the athletic build the new dad bod and name the actual dad bod to something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:00 AM
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Word, except the bring them back to reality part. That's a lost hope. Too many people use said spaces of certain subjects and themes just to vent and validate their viewpoints by other people looking to have such viewpoints maintained. They'll just mute you and ban you the moment you make them think of a what if or a counter argument. That just leaves the intrigue and fascinate part. Why they think the way they do and what caused them to think that way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:28 PM
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No cause such a woman doesn't exist. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If a woman has slept around a ton there's a reason for it, and usually people who will keep a relationship private and monogamous are the one's who don't sleep around a ton. That's like asking would women want a man who has never exercised in his life but is built like and looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger. The two are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:56 AM
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Anybody who's even remotely a fan of Putin's Russia has their opinion and viewpoints automatically invalidated. Your perception of those societies is something off akin to a fairyland. If that's what you base your partners off from and how society works, the foundations itself is flawed so everything else following it. No conservative woman's gonna want to date a man with such views as they're entirely against conservative values.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:03 AM
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All good traits. Everyone needs a strong backbone to know when to stand up for what they believe in and not be pushed around. Having a viewpoint isn't anything had. Everyone likes people who put in the effort and are passionate about their things. As long as "career oriented" doesn't go to the extent of abandoning other things in life/relationships and career becoming the only thing they care about, it's a good trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:09 PM
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Looking at toxic relationships from the outside, I'd say primarily the thing to watch out for is the guy trying to isolate you and the things you want to do, like trying to pull you away from family/friends. If they get easily agitated into doing something they didn't want to do. Not being able to say no. Like if someone says jump head first into the lake at a party, they say no, someone calls them a pussy and they change their mind cause they don't want to be seen as a "pussy." Fragile masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:52 AM
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Confirmation bias. I'd assume women who let a person nut on them or in them are likely with a partner they trust, are comfortable and happy with. Doubt semen itself is an antidepressant unless there's actual chemistry magic in there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:19 AM
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First I gotta ask why she's telling me. There's a big difference if we're on a 1 to 1 date, seeing if this goes further or she's just a random sitting next to me on the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:04 PM
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As a man I often look at other men's behaviours and reason what is appropriate and what isn't. More often that not shitty behaviour is seen more commonly, so more commonly I'm reminded what not to do. Real life experience can validate my thoughts on whether I was correct in my assumptions or not for what makes a man a good man. Parents, relatives and close friends are more of a guidance and goal of what one should be, when all put together collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:34 PM
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don't need to be brainwashed or gaslit to indulge in their pleasures. In this context of conversation, such a statement conveys that not only does a woman self destructing relationships is a cause from brainwashing and gaslighting, that such self destructive action can even apparently be part of pleasure? Pleasure is enjoyment, so I doubt it and don't agree. Really echoes vibes from guys who project and say that women only like big dicks only because he likes big dicks. If that was not what you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:21 PM
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I don't think these women enjoy falling out with everyone they loved and having to give up their dreams because their partner doesn't allow it. But they just accept it, listen and they allow themselves to be cut off from the people close to her. But having your life ruined because it's some sort of sadistic pleasure is just a projection from you. You aren't looking to discuss this behaviour, you're just looking for confirmation of your personal sadistic views that these women willingly partake i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:12 PM
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But that's the thing, you can find someone more attractive over time, even physically. And here's the kicker. This effect is especially far stronger and more noticeable in women. Plenty of studies where constantly being around someone slowly makes them attractive to you. Many activities, one of the most successful ones being sleeping together. To the point where even for a while on social media, there was a popular discussion and content creation of "was he attractive this whole time or did you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:55 PM
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Constant brainwashing and gaslighting is the only way I can figure out why women do this to themselves. To have every female family member, relative, friend and acquaintance shun your boyfriend because they don't like his "vibes" yet you continue the relationship? Maybe fear of reality and denial might also be a factor? Maybe some can't accept that they made the wrong decision by staying with this guy long term and they think they can prevent the ship from sinking? Legit this needs a scientific …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:34 PM
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I don't think "game" for women will ever be as close in relation for what men need to do but not saying that's that's a somehow make attraction struggles lesser. Most people will agree that men should do the approaching so we'll stick with that. Be healthy. Hit the gym. There is no one specific body type that wins, men will have different preferences, some realistic and sadly some fake ones that only exist on Instagram. Personally I'm a fan of proportions. If the whole of you is lean, great. Loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:15 PM
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Because life is a rat's race. To many whom it is, starting early is the key to success. To them, 30+ is too late to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:42 PM
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Interesting study you've found cause for the last several years multiple studies place black people last place always, in every continent, even Africa. I don't think there's any biases that keep people in certain bubbles, but stereotypes do impact people's reasoning for dating. Know a white woman who's married to a black dude and she has severe superiority complex. After marrying him she acts as if she's done a service to him, tirades everybody who's not a fan of their relationship regardless of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:34 AM
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It entirely depends on how high her body count is and how she got it. If it's like 1 per year then nothing to worry about. If it's like 5 or more this year alone then one must wonder what trauma she's dealing with, or that her personality and requirements are really so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:12 AM
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I don't exclusively look for a submissive woman who's only quality is being submissive, nor do I think most guys do. Just when on a date pretty much all women act submissive and let the guys have the final say. Asking, the general answer seems to be that they don't want the resposibility and guilt that comes if something they choose turns out to be shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:09 PM
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It's a complex issue and to take into account every possible personality type, views and their limits I'd need several page's. OP mentioned that she has a genetic disease, so she doesn't want kids as to not risk passing it on. In this case the issue isn't the physical ability to have a child but the chances of the child being healthy with no genetic handicaps. Surrogacy or IVF's won't change anything here. Couples range. Let's stick to this same genetic example. Some couple might agree that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:51 AM
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Copy paste response of some will some won't, some will be in the middle. That's why people are people, everyone's got different values. To some men who want their own biological children, this will likely be a dealbreaker. Not that they see you as less but life goals not matching up. It'd be the same for me as wanting to remain settled in one place and my life's values not matching up to a woman's who wants to travel their whole life and never settle for a long period of time. For some men who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:31 PM
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Yes. It's certainly a different experience with women, as in general with guys we do filler activities that let us bond while forgetting the things that get us down where as women tend to favour more reflective discussions. I wouldn't say drama but certainly a discussion on mine, others behaviours, why we felt such things were done and so on. A different but definitely not an inferior type of friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:30 PM
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They do tho. Pretty high in the US as well compared to the rest, around 17 where as in Europe it was like 15-16 a few years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:10 AM
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Because a high body count changes people but change is only something to point out when they have double standards. Like if a girl says she believes in slow and steady relationships to get to know the person before sleeping with them buy has a body count of 10 by 25. I won't believe her and it'd make me question if she believes in the other things she says. She might be having a double standard with that as well. And sleeping more changes people. My friends who were nice guys trying the stereoty…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:17 PM
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That's the thing. Most people who argue that people don't change are the ones who believe past body count, especially why such body count, matters to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:09 PM
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Cause it's a numerics game. Literally mathematically there's chances that at least several odd people look like you who aren't even related to you. There was even a TV show about people like that in the US only. Since relationships aren't even close to being as specific or complex, far more people are compatible with you than people who look exactly like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:58 AM
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No, there's seriously someone for everyone, our tastes aren't actually that unique. Problem is getting the chance to meet people that you'd be compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:04 AM
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Back ups as in legal assistance. Governmental support. Stigma of having to remarry is realistically gone. Open forms of relationships that don't require a woman to go all in. If your marriage ends in the modern era it's not the end of the world as it would have been back then. Not saying it's easy now but there's far more support than there's ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:42 PM
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Loneliness for men possible by porn might be a thing for some but I'd wager that most men don't know they're missing out on social interaction cause they've never been to so many interactions as back in the day. Since they haven't experienced many moments when they're not alone, loneliness is default.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:38 PM
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It can vary a lot by culture. My grandmothers married who they wanted, who they were attracted to. Even how they met my grandfathers wasn't too far off from something that might happen in the modern age. Maybe I might be in the minority but I'm not buying that the majority of marriages were full of abuse and rape how many people proclaim these days to make the modern scene not look as bad. If it was, it would have been normalised and institutionaly protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:34 PM
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I'd say it's the opposite. Back in the day many women had to rely on their partner so were extremely picky, because they had to get it right the first time. Many did. Now there's no such need to get it right the first time because there's always a backup. As the risks are lower many aren't gonna try as hard cause they've got less to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:56 PM
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I'd already know by the personality that she has. When you know a person on a deep level you can easily predict what sort of communities they're a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:51 PM
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Most men won't take their chances on a could be better in bed. Most men want exclusivity, something no one has, including that no one's had before him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:58 PM
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Never heard a single guy worry about fuck count, tf even is that? Sounds ridiculous. Wouldn't that mean that a man who believes in fuck counts also won't want to fuck his girl cause he's also making the "fuck count" rise? Now body count, that's understandable. That's a good indication of her values, beliefs and compatability before you have to commit years of relationship just to confirm the presumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:43 PM
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Smoking. Having tattoos. Traditional piercings at most. Inability to have fun when not consuming alcohol. I don't that's an extremely high bar to reach.Those are pretty much my simple objective deal-breakers. Rest can only be described as a relationship goes on as they're far more nuanced, like viewpoints, attitude and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:46 PM
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Anyone who sleeps around too much gets slut shamed for it. Plenty of women don't like the neighborhood dick dudes. Comparing ones preference for body count being equal to how tall a dude is is an unfair comparison, not many people are in control of how tall they'll be where as they can control with how many people they want to sleep with. Subjective labelling of why problem have slept with so many people is also the wrong way to go about this. You'll fall down a rabbit hole so best practice is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:31 AM
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Yes, I'd want to work. I feel guilty spending my own money of obligatory stuff, not just luxury products. To completely live of someone else's salary would make me feel so guilty. I'm a big dreamer. Many things I want to invest my money into. There's no way the breadwinner would allow me to buy a piece of land out of her money, cause that's not what she wants? Maybe if she gave me a separate allowance that I could save and put 100% towards a deposit for said property? A very pre women's rights d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:17 AM
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Just because someone is rich doesn't invalidate their difficulties, just never imagined a guy making x10 what I make before tax would be having the same issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:17 PM
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Kind of impressed dude can be in the top 1% and still be humble enough to make threads on a subreddit like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:23 PM
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Pushy men/Men who push the rules to the limit. Let's say there's a party and a rule of "no smoking in the house" so such a guy leaves and stands in the doorway smoking with the door open. They claim that technically they've got their foot outside the house so they're not inside but the smoke is still coming in and the host is getting pissed off. If they're willing to do this to their bro's/friend acquaintances then I dare to think what hell it is to be in a relationship with them. ​ Guys who try…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:54 PM
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Just proposing such a topic is a good enough cause to break up. See you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:26 PM
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As a man it's easy to say how a man's beauty standards chance, mostly of two parts, their current economic situation and what culturally they strive for. For economics, back in the day when food was little/expensive, men liked bigger women cause it showed she was rich and could afford to eat plenty/had a lot of fat to burn incase food did run short. Today is the opposite, food is super cheap but mainly the fat stuff, so if a man sees a thin woman he might assume she's rich enough to afford salad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:33 AM
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Thicc ass was never a style in the first place, just a trend
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:26 AM
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"and I don't know if you know this but I don't have to actually prove your point wrong to have a valid counterpoint" Maybe in your world that's how it works. So because dating isn't fair and women want it fair for them, men shouldn't make dating fair which it isn't in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:03 AM
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Still waiting for you to prove my point wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:54 AM
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Dating was never meant to be fair in the first place. Why do you think mother nature makes boys more likely to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:52 AM
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Wish I could add a lot of value to this conversation but as I guy who's taken dating apps seriously for the last year, I always get left on my ice breakers. Only once did a girl reply "wtf xdd" and ghosted me after autocorrect changed my icebreaker context to "cow milker..." Once I get women to respond to me I'll try and to my part and try to learn, change these dry texts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:03 PM
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We're gonna need a hard number for "most women have had decent amount of casual sex" to draw your whole point together. This "decent amount" can range from 3-50
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:04 AM
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I have a preference for women close to my height because I would ideally want my children to be taller than me but it's not a requirement, not a deal-breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:25 AM
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Big ass. I don't understand how this trend came out of the blue and stuck for the last 10 years. Don't understand what demographic of men would like it. Big ass either makes for whack proportions or the woman is just encouraged to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:16 AM
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Pretty sure this 51/49 rule doesn't exist cause that's just basically the 50/50 rule within a margin of error...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:12 AM
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Women only like a man if he's liked and wanted by others women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:45 AM
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Sexlessness in men is mostly a societal level issue rather than on an individual level where a woman can do her part. But if there was one, I'd hope that sexlessness just becomes irrelevant rather than a tool for invalidation. It's already difficult to know you've missed out compared to the rest of society, and to be lamented, ridiculed and made lesser for it despite your best efforts is more often than not the straw that broke the camels back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:40 AM
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A lot of men blame women as a proxy, the a certain concept to the causation of why they're not successful with women, not women themselves. Let's say a man does his best, has improved in every way he can but still has no success. If he adopts the mentality of genetical physical attraction, and concludes he's a 4/10 when women want a 5/10 as a minimum, since he can't improve himself cause there's nothing else to improve, the only way he can succeed is if women themselves lower the bar, making wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:17 AM
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Kinda sad life if you can only have fun and achieve things is by being a drug fueled hippie feeding the drugs trade. Be a normal dude who tries to keep healthy? Uh uuh, no pussy for you...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:58 PM
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It's the opposite for me. I'm pretty chill, easy going with the flow for most of my life. The moment I have a drink I overthink, get far more emotional and start to feel a bit sad. Bit frustrating that for everyone it's a make you happy drug but for me it's a make me sad drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:44 PM
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Cold approaching is only a go if there's mutual eye contact, which in my case it's never happened since turning 18. I ain't risking a rape/abuse/assault case by merely approaching a woman that doesn't find me attractive in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:09 PM
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It's true that people often have different types of relationships and no one's saying they can't, just many red pillers won't accept that and will move on because in the past your partner gave someone else an easier "bar" to reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:06 PM
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There's no set time frame. More that the rules for your relationship aren't different from another. Of course every relationship is gonna be different and no one has a problem with that, just the discrepancies. Problem starts when a guy meets a girl at a bar and you start a relationship. She says to you that she wants to take it slow, get to know you before anything serious or intimate happens. All is fine until you learn that actually, some guys she meets at bars are so good she doesn't do this…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:37 PM
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Women don't need any signs about her past. Men will figure it out eventually and come to a conclusion non the less, even if it isn't accurate to reality, most of the time to a conclusion of the worst case. All men do this, just for some it's just a note of her character, what's she's like, what her beliefs are, what she stands for and for some it's a straight up deal-breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:24 PM
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Pretty sure it's not one state of how soon she wants to jump in bed with you, rather that she is consistent with her requirements. A lot of red pillers get pissed of if a girl made you wait X amount of dates while had a completely different ruleset for a different guy who she let him hit the first night. Let's the red piller know that you and guy X aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:50 PM
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Depends on where you live, mostly cultural. A lot of countries have everything free for kids, from education, food, clothes to medicine. No cost there, only maybe a cheap train or bus ticket to get you there. A lot of savings can be done by dropping of your kids with your grandparents who more often than not have nothing else to do in their lives and are very bored cause they've all retired. That can easily cover all the expenses that you might have to spend at a daycare.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:29 AM
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Bold of you to assume in this economy we'd have a chance at retirement even without children...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:26 AM
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Of course the third party's also to blame. If they didn't behave the way they do the person in the relationship wouldn't have an outlook to cheat on. Same way with illegal drugs. When people stop taking it the whole trade will die cause there's no one to sell it to. When you use drugs you're just as complicit for the devastation caused by the drug wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:09 AM
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I wouldn't say most women are low quality, just the high quality ones used online dating apps from 16-18 and immediately got into good relationships and stayed in those good relationships ever since. If you miss the early window as a dude, too bad. Maybe there are some women that are great and that aren't in relationships but from personal experience, that doesn't happen. A woman involuntarily not in a relationship is legit a unicorn. knowing quite a few women from like 16-30y, only one of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:59 AM
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Mentally prepare yourself that you'll assume just about everything wrong and do it incorrectly, thus don't deflect when it's time for you to learn how something's actually work, whether what behaviour is accepted in a social situation with a partner to being told how they like/don't like something in bed. Don't let it become an ego thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:17 PM
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Eastern Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:56 PM
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I am white, and I travel to other white countries. From Europe and I travel all around Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:56 PM
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Cause all my friends get endless fun one night hookups out of it with tons of girls and I just want to fit in. I don't want to miss out. Only difference is that I don't get any matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:14 AM
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As a guy I get far more invalided for anything in my life by everyone depending on what I haven't experienced. Many men don't want to be made outsiders so they chase social acknowledgement so they're not left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:10 AM
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No, that's a new and modern trope of American expectations set in the 50's on to boost the housing market. If you look elsewhere in the world, most of the time adult not only stay with their parents but will live with them together with their girlfriend/boyfriend at one of the parents houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:37 AM
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A) Got a job. Started higher studies. Lost weight. Gym. Eat healthy now. Stopped needless spendings. Got back in touch with long lost friends. Try to actually listen to people. Put chores and others before my own relaxations. B) Now that I've bettered myself I don't really have time. Dating apps don't work, not a single match in like two years and going on nights out, bars, clubs and the rest are just filled with 99% men or the girl's already with a man. Hate the places tho, filled with smokers …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:31 AM
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It will highly depend on the type of society and exceptions will still exist. More importantly, it'll be highly dicktated by demographics. If there will be less women than men like China, then most likely this will be the case, where a man has no hope of ever getting a wive unless him and his family spend a fortune on her. If there will be less men than women like in the Soviet Union, women won't have a choice as the ball will be in men's court. Soviet Union isn't the best comparison because wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:22 PM
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No. The relationship dedication of rich people that you describe sounds far more like a Hollywood fantasy rather than than reality. In reality, it's pretty much the opposite. High status/wealth men have little consequence ir they start acting on anything outside of their relationships, let alone get into a relationship in the first place. Rich people are the ones who go to "parties" and "events" where literally the waitress are naked women walking around. I've never been part of such rich societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:07 PM
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"latest stats"? Go on, link. I've been patiently waiting the new results for sexless that was last done in 2008 and 2018. Really want to see a to see one sooner
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:27 AM
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It's less about having a specific time frame more about "milestones" being reached in relationships. Slept a week for the first time at your partners place and no sex? That's normal. If it's been a few months and you've just introduced each other to each of their parents and haven't been laid yet? then that seems perfectly fine. Been on multiple trips abroad together exclusively and no fun time? Then I'd see it as one person withholding sex. That's already past the point of great trust and exclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:13 AM
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Isn't that the whole point? Not all women will be attracted to you so keep going till you find one who does.
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:00 PM
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Where's the discussion in here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:16 PM
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Because this theory is based on a grouping beliefs and perceptions, and this belief is that women are free to have their cake and eat it too without consequence. Reason this theory is so popular is because it's easy to recite and any counter argument requires perspective as the opposite sex, which many supporters of this theory are either mentally incapable of or simply don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:23 AM
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If weddings mean conspicuous consumption then damn bro just have some fun. This some American perspective on wedding with their capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:19 AM
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There's a reason there's a saying that you're a reflection of all your friends. Sooner or later your friends behaviours to take an effect, especially on the way you think. Constant repetition of something can slowly makes it feel fact. If a buddy of mine's gonna be a cheater, I won't stand the next 10 years of him justifying why it's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:11 AM
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Word, put it far better than I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:08 AM
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If you have stored more than 10 porn videos/pics then it's a hoarding porn addiction. Get it treated to stop it from seeping issues into other elements of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:07 AM
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I think you're mixing up looking desperate with letting her know her intentions. I'd hate to have my time wasted just for her to tell me she doesn't ever want kids, so since I don't want anyone to do that to me, I wouldn't waste anyone else's time. Whether I, you or someone else has the ability to communicate their intentions efficiently and timely is a different issue again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:00 AM
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Just confirmation bias, as in women not attracted to jerk won't tell anyone if their relationship with a not jerk didn't work out.
/r/seduction28/10/22 09:42 AM
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Sorry to break out to you but pre marital sex was a think before marriage was conceptualised. If you see sex as a transaction, it has always existed. It can be as valuable as ensuring a nation of hundreds of millions has an heir and a stable future to simply having the ability to get by. Prostitution is the oldest profession know to exist, it's even a thing in other species.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:30 AM
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In a way very true. If you just rub one out in a few minutes it leaves you plenty of time to do other things. Like I could waste an hour trying to find the "perfect" video to nut to or just find the first one and be over with it. Not like the nut is gonna be any better after an hour. Although simping is not an issue of not being in nut clarity. Simping is a deeper issue about lack of validation and companionship in life. I've also found myself rooting for personalities and their drama in life li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 05:22 PM
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Hard to say. Knowing that many women already now go single well into their late 30's without finding their first partner even without them being the dominant bread winner, this unwavering commintment to their standarts is only to increase. This is already reflected in stocks, where apparently hedge funds have already bet a few years ago on single women industries growing rapidly throughout the years. It'll be a big industry freezing eggs. Wouldn't be surprised if women in their early 20's freezi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:42 PM
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More that there's a baseline and bad/cheap nails just make a woman fall below it. Especially if the finger/nail looks unhealthy yet has some huge acrylics, tend to be make a guy lose more interest than if she didn't have any on in the first place. Some women bite their nails away so much that there's nothing left but a stub. Maybe it's just me and my guy circle but for us all, but women who do normal manicures without sticking some acrylics on are on a whole different level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:22 PM
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No idea how close I'll fly to the sun but I'd say the health of nails (the natural painted manicure not glue ons) and amount of body hair. Most men think they don't care until they all the sudden do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:11 PM
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Don't drop your standards as more often than not they're not unrealistic of the average man and most of the time just gaslighting and guilttripping into lowering what you think you deserve. And no, I don't know a single man who's married or dates a single woman that I myself see as ugly. There's only one guy who's married to a, "beefy" woman but it's understandable, she's got the heart of an angel. Years of history and emotional attachment, he sees past that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:53 PM
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I don't think anything changed from being overrated to underrated, just that it was far less socially acceptable to acknowledge the importance of how one looks years ago, despite people still valuing looks. People are just more open about it these days. A win win for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:31 PM
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That's where we differentiate. Maybe it's a cultural, generational or some other difference but the girls I've gone on dates have always paid their half. Because she's now no longer in "debt" any further fun is because of us as an individual not because she has some sort of a "transaction" to fulfill on her end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:18 PM
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To you a body count also includes people you paid sex for, didn't earn it. Everyone else body count is people who wanted to fuck you for you with no transactional values included. We are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:58 AM
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Cause with the number of past sexual partners one can cross reference if her said values match up with her past behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:45 AM
1

Do what exactly? Your ego is part of your character, it's what makes you unique. Some have more, some have less, some act far more on their ego's, others merely theorise it. Ego in itself isn't some evil thing that should be avoided at all costs. If one is to have no ego at all then they'd have to be in a mindless vegetable state.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:38 AM
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More important that you acknowledge that your requirements are a double standards rather than not having such standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:35 AM
1

If 10 is a low body count to you, how many is mid or high?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:09 AM
1

Hope you mean Ferrari keychains
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 10:17 AM
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That involves women talking to you. I dunno, that's a huge step most of us don't get to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:58 AM
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Yet to find 1 inch shorts...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:54 AM
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As a man who's been on dates, we've always split. I have been raised to expect to have to pay but women always insist, very adamant that they let them pay their share or won't go on another date with me. The unanimous response is that they don't want to feel in debt to anyone, especially if the guys starts asking, sometimes even demanding "favours" merely because she's in "debt" to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:51 PM
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We're talking about a relationship not a first date hook-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:57 AM
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How about don't start a relationship off with a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:53 AM
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Body count in of itself isn't what men usually care about but it's the behaviour, attitude and values that come with a high body count or a lack of one. You're right, there's no way of knowing. However, people these days tend to overshare everything, so receipts of past relationships are pretty easy to dig up. Even if you end up in a relationship other details inevitably trickle in so you learn the past anyways. Maybe she did ride the cock carousel when she was younger but the type of woman who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:46 AM
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But it's true. As gen Z myself, there is literally no one I look up to. All your celebrities or role models are always flawed in their owns ways, where the colours show sooner or later. Everyone in a way is fucked and selfish. Maybe that's just the gen Z perspective. No point in having a role model when your values aren't rewarded for in society anymore. Maybe they never were. Just live for yourself and your close friends bubble, ignore the rest of society. And OP he's part of the same generatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:25 AM
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The idea isn't that women share the top men as in a polyamorous relationship, more that women share the top men in the sense that they're in a queue, next in line to try a monogamous relationship with the same guy who's last relationship just failed. That women take turns to see if they'll succeed,
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:05 AM
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Because underage boys are egged on and made fun of by other boys and even men if they haven't had sex yet. A lot of men look back into these years of torment and wish it wasn't them, wish they'd have just gotten over a done with it and to have an older woman appear and seemingly offer exactly what you want with no downsides is like something that will only happen in imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:02 AM
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Women usually with a known body count at the asking out stage usually aren't that attractive in the first place to begin with to continue learning about her more than just an acquaintance level. This question has been asked so many times that I've basically come up with a formula by now. If a woman's body count is above: her age - 16 then it's a red flag. I'll think thrice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:46 PM
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You have to remember the target audience. Even tho there are under 30 year olds here they're a very small minority, so since most people are around their early twenties, it's no surprise that early twenties are attracted to other early twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:24 PM
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Repost cause mod takes down top comment after tag changed to women only. "Cause many men don't know when to stop. Porn being a simple easy visual aid to rubbing one out quickly makes them dependant, to the point where the porn itself is shaping their tastes and behaviours."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:28 AM
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When posted there was no women only tag. Kinda foolish to remove such a popular comments so late into a posts life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:26 AM
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mf just explained to me why I get no action without even knowing who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:18 PM
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Can you define for us or give an example of a guy having confidence? So we know where to start...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:15 PM
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And yet about your partner allowing you to read them and learn what they like, from many women who've I've talked to expect a man to read her like a book and know exactly what to do, how she'll like it the moment/first few seconds when both get down to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:21 PM
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Gym bodies being an accessory is a really good way of putting it, explains why I've seen some truly stunning girls hanging around obese abominations. So if my body that I work hard to keep healthy is merely an extra and not a requirement, what exactly is she looking for? Is it true that I just need to let her feel safe and respected and it'll all click together?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:18 PM
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Pretty sure most men atrocious in bed mostly because they don't get much to learn how be perform better when getting so little sex in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:26 PM
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Cause many men don't know when to stop. Porn being a simple easy visual aid to rubbing one out quickly makes them dependant, to the point where the porn itself is shaping their tastes and behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:21 PM
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This has to be a bait post. A man not living with his parents in today's economy? I know plenty of under 30 couples who still live in one of their parents houses together, most often the guys. Sounds far more like some neglect manifested into a judgment that men aren't allowed to save money and find meaningful relationships while living with their parents just because you never had the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:44 AM
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More romantic experience, social encouragement, more maturity might be ovjective fact but even if it is, it's not as impactful as most other research. If I remember most studies the general consensus is that women have far more general friend and aquaintaince circles with whom to keep in touch, not neceserily even meaningful or deep relations. Where as men at best have a the odd amount of life long friends, usually close to none or one by the time they hit 30+. Men are also a lot more willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:41 PM
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The correlation between poor social mobility and relationship, sex life and so on success has been long documented and linked. But it should be the opposite. Because you can't change your social status you should concentrate as much as you can on the individual part. But the participation in more women heavy activities is the wrong treatment to the right diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:50 PM
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I wouldn't call 10% a small gap nor near 1/3rd a small group. As for the pills, pretty sure the access to women was based on online matches rather than people having sex. People already in relationships aren't part of the pill statistics cause sex in a relationship is agiven.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:00 PM
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Where's that come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:06 PM
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My questions on how to get bigger/better was all rhetorical. I myself have come to an acceptable of my own body and where it stacks against the scale of the ideal man's body. I won't dwell on it but that's the thing, many do and only dwell. Try and explain to a short, fat, balding, unhealthy man why he should stop living a comfortable life and pursue a better version of himself because he has only one chance if all the things he sees wrong with himself won't change after he gets himself together…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:34 AM
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True, but it's no surprise men get lost in the definition of what "the whole package" means when all the hear about is desired traits they have no control over. An extremely small amount of men I'd say have the privilege of finding out there's more to a woman's attraction than just the mainstream requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:20 AM
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"looksmaxxing" means nothing if you have no social skills. And only socialising with your own friends bubble in a way can make it worse, might normalise some really awkward behaviour. "People do nothing" ok tell me how to get a girthier dick. Tell me how to be taller. Tell me how to stop a receding hairline. Tell me how to get a deeper talking voice... People stop because there's no real way to change those things. And when a man concludes that the only things "wrong with him/lacking" are one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:15 AM
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Doesn't necessarily have to be rejection before a relationship, can be after. A man wouldn't willing come to his own conclusions that his dick's not good enough. Some else always tells them that. Know a guy who was in a relationship for a few years and it broke down. The only thing we were told was that she said when she left him was that she didn't like his circumcised dick. What can be do...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:56 AM
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I've never had a woman comment if I sit funny and if someone behaves weirdly, sending bad signals that's just a lack of social skills again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:55 AM
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Many men will disagree on everything you've written about because when rejected, it's never based on things such as not being dressed well, not having clean eyebrows or forgetting to style your beard. If it was such material things like using a few products, we'd be on cloud nine. Most of the reasons not to pick a man have been with out of control faults like not being tall enough, balding, bad bone structure, not a deep enough voice, schlong not being girthy enough. It's understandable of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:11 AM
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No it's not. 1kg of potatoes is half as cheap as the cheapest McDonald's meal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:48 AM
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But OP isn't talking about whilst being in a relationship are they. They're talking about before getting into a relationship. Who or what are you meant to imagine when you don't have a partner nor are allowed to imagine anyone else cause that's "cheating." Tho men wanking to other women while they have a partner doesn't add up. Got someone solely for you but you still go elsewhere. And men can be turned on by far more things than porn. Pretty sure the same goes for women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:09 PM
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Fuck me sideways, you really are someone special. Yes, you were the one who brought up porn first in this conversation with "the fact that you conflate porn and masturbation is actually sad." I was strictly talking about thoughts. Doesn't help your arguments to quote random shit from different conversations without context. You accuse me of being addicted to porn yet you yourself can't think of anything else other than "what could it mean besides porn." When it comes to masturbating to your thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:29 PM
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Who says the average man also now doesn't have above average standards? We already do that without needing the tables turned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:10 PM
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Stop projecting. You've created an issue by yourself that I wasn't talking about and now you're arguing with me against an issue that you've made up. If men being visual creatures who imagine seeing at a pair of tits equals porn addiction to you, then you're the one who needs help not mixing up two different things. To give you the ball, yes. Porn is harmful, never said it wasn't. Didn't even mention porn. I was solely talking about masturbation and what is a man allowed to do to make the sessio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:51 PM
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Didn't read what I wrote at all, and who says that a man, let alone me can only get off to seeing other men fuck women? What a short sighted fucking mess of a comment. You don't realise how ridiculous that sounds do you. We can't have nice things or use tools to help us achieve a goal because some man half a millennia ago managed without it and for it we're worse... With the same mentality and logic, why not say the same thing and say that women who can't orgasm when masturbating should just suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:58 AM
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The conversation isn't porn itself, it's that other women are off limits to you when masturbating, whatever form that takes. Magazine, drawing, imagination or else. That's all not allowed and classed as cheating. If a man can't even imagine a woman what is he left with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:58 PM
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OP isn't talking about porn, they're talking about imaging a sexual scenario with any other woman who's not in a relationship with you. Porn videos are just the most common form of medium. By OP's logic, even masturbating when imaging other women is still classed as "cheating."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:56 PM
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Most likely use porn magazines and tapes to get off
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:25 PM
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Slightly off topic, but people have been masturbating without porn for ages. It’s called having an imagination Thats the key question. Imagination to what? A simple answer would be other women but that's pretty much the same as porn as in your own words of "Seeing others in a sexual context and masturbating to them is cheating to them." So if seeing or imagining yourself and a different woman in any sexual context is cheating, what are men meant to masturate to? Apparently not women, or anyone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:41 PM
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So what else do you propose men masturate to? Draw their own material and only use that? Have a wank and try and remember how hot those new wheels would look on your car? Try and remember the warm feeling one summers day when you were sitting outside eating bbq with beer? It's healthy to get off, "clear the system" so to say. Just so happens that men need visual material. Sure the motion might work eventually but it won't be the same. Thats like making a warm meal and putting it in the fridge st…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:25 PM
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As a dude in my mid 20's I got a fair bit of attention from girls aged 14-18, I'd get cat called by women, they'd try to get all touchy and often make the first move. I haven't really changed much since then, maybe I'm even in better than back then cause I've lost weight and can lift more but that hasn't correlated at all in how I see women seeing me as desirable. To me, women my age are hot as ever but the response is not mutual anymore. Wouldn't be all bad to go back to such an age where life …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:56 PM
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Looking around seems like an impossible standard but such's life. Wouldn't demand something that I would not meet myself. No smoking No tattoos Has to be somewhat intelligent, like not fall for Facebook link scams or bait news articles like anti-vaxxers do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:44 PM
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That is one impressive catch tho
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:33 PM
12

When they smoke or have a tattoo, any tattoo. Don't want my partner to die at 50 from cancerous lungs and I just like plain skin. Don't understand why you gotta taint it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:29 PM
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What if they don't want help and rather vent that their values aren't as popular as they used to be. They'll stand by till what they're happy with comes along. In a way let it happen. I'd be curious what happens in the future when a substantial amount of the male population retracts from society because they don't find enough women attractive enough in terms of them sleeping around too much. Will the stereotype of lonely cat ladies become the norm or out with a private monogamous relationship an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:09 PM
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And my comment was merely a reminder to you that the viewpoints in the comment you replied to aren't just his, they're reflected in all cultures to some degree. Doesn't of course mean that everyone in all cultures care about it, more that he isn't unique. As for reply to OP? Think they have some things to reflect on first. The way they describe relationships sound like some sort of a system that they have to game and win by min maxing every relationship and the one after it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:13 PM
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Don't deflect. We're not here to talk about men. Just because one side does something doesn't justify the others to copy. But it's true, and that's why plenty of cultural precautions have been developed in every culture to avoid slutty men and protect women from unwanted pregnancies, rape, marital abuse and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:53 PM
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Because if they don't they'll surely get out of touch with reality, especially with the exceptions from the opposite sex. Pff, even if you become a lesbian you'll be turning off a lot of them. If in your own words you want to leave a relationship just because the sex with the next guy might be better, you're missing the whole point of long term relationships. Single handedly turning nice guys into fuckboys simply because he wasn't the next guy. If empowerment means riding the dick carousel till …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:34 PM
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Disgust of knowing that a man's partner has been a public cum dumpster is surprisingly a cross cultural acknowledgement for all men from all parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:27 PM
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Backbone. Stand by for what you believe in, even it if means becoming a martyr. Won't get anywhere in life if you're being pushed around or sacrifice your responsibility to please others. That goes for consequences too. If you choose to go down a path and it doesn't work out, no one else to blame but yourself. More importantly it means you now have to double down cause no one's coming for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:53 AM
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There is no solution, those men are 4/10's by design. The human gene constantly experiments with different combinations. By sheer numbers it's bound to get it wrong from time to time. Not to worry as there are plenty of other ugly ducklings on the opposite gender to make sure you're not alone, that being said maybe being alone is better, at least it's not a compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:34 AM
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JDWgiz96
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:28 AM
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Out of like 20 strong long term relationship that I know of, only 1 was where the girl "dropped her handkerchief." The rest have been awkward approaches by the guys where the girls could at least see past the weirdness to his potential. What would the first handkerchief even signify? That now she's ready for me to attempt the awkward first move to introducing myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:17 AM
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Doubt you and your friend are living together so you can save together to buy a house together. There's a difference between sharing the same goal and simply trying to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:57 PM
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Had a stroke trying to read this. Donda wanda dry adain?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:22 PM
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Trouble finding a long term relationship? lol, they'd be in one within a few months of the last breakup. Did any of them last? Not really. Baggage and everything else kept snowballing and every relationship after the last one was steadily shorter and shorter than the last one. Is it causation? Doubt it, but correlation definitely, and correlation is the red flag for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:19 PM
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Exactly, "no standards for you but high for everyone else" is the nail on the head. This is how those guys see it: From their perspective, guys are usually put through a rigorous drill to see if they can't handle what not and see how good they are, given the bare minimum while being strung along like some sadistic exploitation yet whilst he's nothing to her, other 6'4 muscle mountain "chads" get to skip all that and to straight for the prize without having to sacrifice anything. All men who view…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:08 PM
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As far as I know men, from statistics, cultural/societal expectations and knowing personally how men and women have behaved.
/r/seduction07/10/22 02:53 PM
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Go on...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:18 PM
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Pretty much no one ever says you aren't entitled to a fulfilling relationship because you've slept around with a ton of people before. The purpose for caution and discussion around sleeping around a ton is purely aimed and the double standards many women have at having a hard time accepting that she can be rejected by a man based on her choices in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:17 AM
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That's the thing. Often I get the impression that for many people (guys in this case), the slightest inconvenience is a cultural/societal problem and every problem that exists has to have a solution. What if it doesn't? What if this is just the way life is meant to be an tough luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:06 AM
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Probably just double the income because there's two of you and half the costs cause there's two of you. Other than that women can get everything else, married or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:58 AM
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Pretty sure they're all fake. People projecting their own insecurities and underperformance as fact and scapegoat everyone else. I think the whole audience could easily tell apart when forced abuse is happening and when it isn't. No porn star can act convincingly. It's all over the top, to the point where watching network made pornos like something from Vixen is such a turn off. Seeing 2 people fuck in silence is far hotter than a girl already having an orgasm two seconds after the guy put it in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:38 AM
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I just explained it...? Simply having done things in the past can say a lot about someone and we're free to treat them different because of it, irrespective if they've grown from it or not. Dude could have hit women, realised that he didn't like it and stopped, I'd still would never want to see him in my life because not only did he think it was ok to do that but that he even went and did it. This can be applied to anything. Any value, and belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:16 AM
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Cause bars don't work...? Everyone arrives in their friend circles, sits in their friend circles and leaves the bar with their friend circle. Might get a word in with the bar lady but that's it. Over long-term of overpaid drinks you could have invested that into your hobby and at least reached some goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:42 PM
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Sure we all grow but even the fact that some things were even considered and tried in the first place can be an invalidator for why your partner is not compatible. Let's say you tried crack cocaine and realised that it's not for you and moved on. I'd want nothing to do with you simply because you did it, I couldn't care less if you changed and grew from that or didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:39 PM
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Polarization is a big factor but it's not driven by politics. It's something else. My finger's pointing at the access people have at discovering like minded people exist out there. Back in the day if you were born and died in the same old town, likely your views of everything adjusted to fit your surroundings, not that doesn't need to be the case. This assurance that people like you exist out there makes people double down and stand by for what they believe in. Makes everyone less compatible the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:32 PM
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It is, very. Was easier breaking the "need experience to get a job but need a job to get experience" loop than it is to get a girl to agree to go on a date with you...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:56 PM
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I was about to say this. Men back in the day could at least have some comfort when not being the best of the best even with factors out of their control merely by the fact that women didn't have so much choice, one of them will have to settle with him eventually. Not that the could slack off of course, he wouldn't want the worst of the worst either. The only way to "fix" this would be to either have women willing give up asking for the best a man can be or get rid of their rights so their hand i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:40 PM
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Doubt it. Life's a grind now, don't really see how a relationship would enhance my life in any way. In a sense it would be worse cause right now I know I am alone so I can fully focus on work, where as if I had someone waiting, missing me everyday it'd be unbearable, I wouldn't want to work and want to sit at home all day long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 11:58 PM
1

A dude sticks by his preferences. All those examples are confirmation biases as the industry is more or less to blame. The industry believes only blonde huge tits get the attention, so they invest everything into these models and nothing for alternative and when the alternative doesn't see the success, the industry goes "I told you so." So when Instagram or orange YouTube is 90/100 just filled with blondes, don't be surprised that running into not blonde content is a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:38 PM
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I'm from Europe and I'd say men by a large amount. General societal attitudes reflect this impression. Statistics usually have men being the higher statistic in infedility and from personal experience of the people I know, men are usually the ones with much looser standards who I wouldn't be surprised if they cheat. Every woman that I know is a "hopeless romantic" as a type.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:47 AM
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It will range a lot depends on what culture you are talking about, but it seems like being a virgin at 25-28 is a bit concerning and after 28 is a red flag. On a scale of how severe these "red flags" actually are against each other, I'm unable to tell. TDLR: 25+ you should start worrying, definitely weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:08 PM
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Because we want the substance that comes with sex, especially a loved one. Lack of sex is merely a surface level symptom as people want deeper things like validation and feeling desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:41 PM
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I wouldn't say so. Many men just want to experience the basic things in life. Why put all the effort into finding the girl that takes you a year to get to know with the possibility of a fun time when you can just get a girl quick who will leech of you in some way but still be 4/5th of a whole experience if you went the legit way. For many it's a must to reach a goal no matter the cost. Many want to experience a bgg threesome in their lives, good luck with that happening if you don't find girls w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:13 PM
1

Doesn't work. Women at the gym don't want any interaction with men at gyms. Seen them rather sit in some dark corner with one busted bench rather that sit where all the new stuff is, with free seats and bars that don't squak just have to sit next to a man. 100% of women in gym's will choose the former. Even wait in a queue to sit at that bench rather than sit next to men. Attracting women in a gym is some fantasy. Not even removetly close to a possible reality.
/r/seduction28/09/22 08:37 PM
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This would only make sense if the status quo remained the same for the rest of eternity, which isn't going to happen. It's fact that younger people are more exposed to life ever than before. The awkward teenage years have been eroded and one is a child and at 13 all the sudden they try to behave like a young adult. As for why are 20 year olds worried that they have no real world experience? That's because the baseline has shifted. When I was 16 most guys had already had sex and many girls at 14 …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:24 PM
2

Yes but saying it's repulsive online doesn't mean much, because repulsive is a subjective answer. For an answer to be relative and understood by reference in any way, it has to be objective so most just state objective reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 12:01 AM
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I made a move on a girl, she didn't reject me on the spot and gave me her Snapchat. Added her, chatted for a bit and decided a date should be a casual bicycle ride around a park. On the day that I was meant to meet her, some 200+ lb whale showed up instead. Turns out she was setting up her obese friend who pretended to be her so that the fat one gets some action? Shit was so humiliating, I'd rather on the day that I approached her she spit on me or throw something at me. A dirty shirt is far eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:25 PM
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No it doesn't. The exact definition of convenience is negative. You can't have a positive consequence, they're mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:45 PM
7

Because that's how biology works...? Whole human society has been revolved around the point that conception is the point past no return. Those men still have consequences after a woman's pregnant, just none that involve the biology of their body such as the risk of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:24 PM
1

You quote that successful men are highly guaranteed to find someone who's gonna love them and have children with them. However you propose this as why jerks get into relationships because being a jerk = success where as the quoted material does not. There is a conflict. My point is that this is inaccurate as there as still plenty of unsuccessful jerks who get far women in contact to nice guys who are equally unsuccessful. How are jerks more successful when the only difference often is how they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:05 PM
1

Still dodging even with an extreme example. Haven't addressed my point despite bad wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:40 PM
0

Yea but the thing. Assholes/fuckboys don't take charge, don't take risks nor stand out from the crowd. Fuckboys and nice guys are literally the same just one uses women vs one doesn't know how to and the ones who know how to get laid. What your claiming the article explains vs what it actually explains are two different groups of people. We're interested in why of the 2ns group, the one that sits around all day do only the abusers get rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:20 PM
1

Men often want the title of hookup material than husband material because many women will throw away their husband material just be have her brains blown out by this hookup guy. Husband material guy is now seen as disposable because she was disposable to him. Now all these years you've built up with this woman is equal to a someone else's decision on a whim. Utter humiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:36 PM
3

Pretty sure you're just lucky. From what I've seen in life, if you aren't ripped by high school with a "popular" friends group you can say goodbye to even girls acknowledging you, let alone getting laid by 16. Know many dudes who were made fun of for being virgins at 18/19
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:29 PM
16

Nothing about this is productive, you're just projecting onto us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:24 PM
19

Women you probably want to wife up hang out in friend groups and social spaces such as hobby clubs. How you're able to get past this privacy exclusivity moat is beyond me tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:22 PM
2

This explains nothing. You've just quoted successful men get to have children. Being a jerk is just another demographic group, another crowd, nothing unique about them just different. No one's asking Jeff Bezos has women attracted to him, that's obvious. Question is why in a common community, if 50% of guys are nice guys and 50% of guys are fuckboys, why will 90% of women be attracted to the fuckboys. Rest of 10% of women will be lesbians...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:11 PM
4

This is only a problem for those who want marriage to stay as the status quo and don't want anything else to become the normal. Whatever Japan is doing now will be the similar future to the rest of the 1st world. They're ahead of everyone else. Society will become less populated so more meaningful. As long as populations stays at their projected trend levels and native populations aren't replaced by mass migrations from culture where birth rate is the only thing they're good at. The new normal o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:51 AM
2

I'm confused on what pill I am but my understanding is that many red pill guys have 2 issues. First being that marriage is no longer the logical nor safe investment for everything you have, from life goals, values mental state to finances. Whether this is due to women gaining independence, institution or economy going to shit itself is up for debate. Just many don't see marriage ever making a comeback so indulgence in the casual sex whilst it lasts. Second, if marriage was still an option, many …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:32 AM
0

It's almost like there's a reason daughter and wife are two different things... 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:02 PM
4

Evidence from life, backed up by "facts" from the web. It's easier to understand an entity or concept being out to get you rather than understanding something as a trade-off for a benefit of something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:04 PM
9

Porn is 100% a symptom without a doubt. If I had the slight possibility of being sexually satisfied with a partner then there'd be no need for porn, since I have someone to do it with. Sure, maybe porn has amplified the fear of missing out so there's far more pressure and self awareness but it'd still be there regardless of porn existing or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 10:27 AM
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Not a problem as long as you yourself aren't a hypocrite and slept around with a shit ton of women. Can't have your cake and eat it too. And don't worry, this isn't just a mentality for men. Many women also think the same thing but are far less vocal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:03 AM
2

Hard to say but something similar to scanning eyes and no no care on not being "caught" looking at you. Sometimes even confirmation by looking you in the eyes after you've"caught" them checking you out. By contrast most people will look away if you spot them looking at you when they're merely looking around. That's all I've got. Clueless for anything that comes after that.
/r/seduction06/09/22 10:26 PM
1

Words are hard. Sorry I lost the plot. This is just a subjective explanation for different types of behaviours?
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/22 10:21 PM
1

Could never put this problem into words because I overcomplicated it. It's that simple. Too many women will put themselves into shit position and develop shit friends just to not be alone. The moment they don't, that's when many mature into women. Sometimes you have to burn a bridge because of the influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:09 PM
1

People heavily express their views online about concepts like promiscuity mostly as projection as an element of life that doesn't go their way. A man who wants a relationship but is turned off by seeing so many women who've slept with more people that he sees as ok, then goes on tirades on subs like these projecting their beliefs by trying to convince and in a way "awaken/prevent" women from becoming what he's not attracted to. Let's take me for example. I don't like tattoos and saddens me to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:19 AM
4

So who are talking about then? Seems like you're exclusively talking about virgin women who wait for marriage. Not seeing anything about low body count women. They're worlds apart. But for the first part I agree, you can't demand what you yourself are not. There's a ton of guys out there who want their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:46 AM
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Yea, I'd agree that relationships have a higher standard, mostly because there's more to lose if you get it wrong. But that applies to women as well. Mid twenties and still haven't gotten laid, so if I'm this far in might as well stick to high standards. For casual sex, face has to be subjectively attractive and objectively fit, I'd say 70kg max. Seeing how most people are obese these days it's shockingly rare to come across a woman that fits just those two requirements. I'd want to say at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:51 PM
3

Gotta give us a reason why you're recommending what you're recommending than just naming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:04 AM
1

I think you're stuck with the concept of status and what it means to have "status." All you're describing is some MTV new money rich Californian stereotype. Sure it's a status but just one kind. Having a career is not "status" either, that's just having a career. Let's say your dream girl is some piano musician that goes to plays classicals doing live music. Do you think she'll want to be seen around a guy who's known for not being able to pass basic education? A guy who can't participate in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:00 AM
3

From my experience men are either indifferent or wished he was her first. Never head of a man who only wanted a girl who's had previously experience before him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:32 AM
2

Don't jump the fence just yet. People can still have been in relationships and developed traumas and not have had sex yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:28 AM
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Women aren't repulsive. Sure many are but that's just because of my standards, which aren't that high to begin with. There's a lot of women that I'm attracted to that I know, shame they're just about all in relationships tho. When it comes to sex, I don't care if she's a virgin or not. Sure that might be more attractive because she'll remember me for the rest of her life but I just want a woman who vales herself more than a human flesh light that's passed around the whole town. Yea no, men aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:02 PM
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Since the majority of the population is getting obese and lazy, yea the average standards are slipping by being brought down by the masses(literally).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:17 PM
1

Overweight might be the average now but definitely isn't the normal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:15 PM
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Of course trash men get to fuck way more, there's far more trash women around than quality ones. At 18, the girls who you might want to introduce to your parents might have slept with only 3 dudes at most but the majority common trash had more bodies than fingers combined and onto their 2nd child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:19 PM
3

Mostly looks and text to see if there are deal-breakers. If they were smokers, had tattoos or kids, nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:35 AM
0

At 24 I'd say no more bodies than 6. Any more and they're sleeping way too much. Turned themselves into a free trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:58 AM
1

That's why I don't use Tinder seriously anymore these days. More curious and funny to see what sort of whale's gonna swipe right on me. Literally free entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:28 AM
1

Nothing will change. Pills have been here for a while, it's just a new generation is coming in as the old one is leaving. It's like coming to school for the first time. To you everything is new and changing but for the institution, you're not the first student and won't be the last. By the time we grow old the younger one's will start to learn about pills all over again. And to them it'll seem like just now chads get all the women and they don't. The cycle repeats.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:27 AM
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A single booba is enough to get the blood flowing, even if I'm not attracted to said woman. Sure my body is ready within a minute but it has to wait until consciously I myself am ready. Pretty much same for all men. Only a small minority can't control the latter part and have the monkey brain fully control them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:40 AM
1

Nice, missed all 4 states of potential love...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:36 AM
1

Of course, both men and women if they behave like sluts. Mostly men tho, don't know that many women let alone their sex lives
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:30 AM
1

Anology is one thing but unironically in life, the odd 200th job application was my first response with something along the lines of "we've looked over your application and decided you are not the best fit our of the competition. Good luck on future endeavours." Sure I got a single response but my success rate still stays at 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:24 PM
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Nothing stopping one from trying but there's no response. The same how you can apply for 200 jobs and get no response from them. You can only progress if someone acknowledges your attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:26 PM
5

I dunno, I heard they bite
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:07 PM
10

Half of this falls into: "Need experience to get a job but need a job to get experience" loop. Not really a solution unless with sheer brute force, which has a very low success rate not an option for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:06 PM
1

Pretty sure there was research done that showed correlation of sleeping in the same bed improves relationship quality, from things like intimacy, better bond to having to talk out differences because there's nowhere else to retreat to.
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/22 10:02 PM
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Be an enabler for memories. If you son wants to go to an event with his friends that's one one for the weekends let him, let them stay out for the whole night if it drags on. That's a way to get them acquainted with more people, get more life experience and might sound weird but "word of mouth." Aka he's no stranger to the women/girls in those for mentioned friend circles. Know too many guys for whom the parents didn't let them stay out all nights, didn't let them go to car meets or last ticket …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:59 PM
1

That specific redpill is a shadow of its former self. Overtaken by normies who just project their fantasies, a classic "Reddit try not to lie" challenge with all those posts.
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/22 04:17 PM
2

People have a problem with erects penises not because it's a penis but because it's a display of sexual arousal. Being sexually aroused can heavily impact a man's behaviour, especially as they become far more daring. Pretty sure there was a study that backed up this exact correlation. That's why post nut is such a powerful thing, it's YOU back in control. I don't want to say it's like Hulk with two different personalities in control but it's an accurate anecdote. I can tell you myself that the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:47 AM
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That's literally what I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:10 PM
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That's the thing, you're not sending them out to the real world. You're sending them to the military. "The real world" is just daily life. Your recommendation is basically school all over with even less protection from those in power with the bonus of death of severe injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:31 PM
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Not having double standards /= not having equal standards. Just because a couple agree that one of them will be a stay at home parent doesn't mean all the sudden one of them is lesser. Not having double standards is more about being self aware of your actions, especially its consequences. It's perfectly ok for you to sleep around a ton and realise it's not for you just how it's ok for anyone else to dismiss you on the basis that you thought it was ok to sleep around a ton in the first place. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:29 PM
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If they find someone who doesn't care about what they were up to in the last good on them, not holding them back. Clearly back then they didn't care or just didn't know that they could care. Aren't these the same generation that have boosted divorce rates up to 50%? Not everyone lives in America. Not every nation and culture had a free swinging period like the hippies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:22 PM
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Mandatory service won't change a thing. Same societal structure just authority structure is entirely different. In a way loneliness and other symptoms are even worse in the armies. Still the same bullying, friend groups or lack of inclusion and so on. Forcing people to go in the army to fix their introversion problems would be the same as forcing people to go to the store at least once a day and be forced to have a casual conversation with the cashier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:01 PM
2

There's a whole lot of "me" and not a lot of "him." Maybe learn how to enjoy giving him pleasure and you can both start on the same page together. Guide each other. Sounds stupid but there's plenty of videos on PH on how to finger a girl, maybe watch together and let him try? And also stop faking it. You're at a point where you have to come clean.
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/22 02:44 PM
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There's nothing wrong with "playing the field." Most of the time many who do play the field later take issue with other people passing on them because of their life's decisions of: playing the field. As long as you don't have double standards no one has an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:35 PM
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Another man going his own way is just like a pebble thrown in a lake. Plenty of other men for then to choose over. They're not gonna notice you nor demand change because one man decided he hasn't seen the returns he wanted. Plenty of women who also don't date because of the bullshit in modern dating, haven't really heard about any guys expressing their heavy opinions about women going their own way...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:00 AM
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They are but not when in public, especially with strangers. However when they're with someone they really like they'll melt and actively encourage her SO to make decisions for her, at least ones in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:39 AM
1

Wish it was something other than a lie detector test as they can be easily manipulated but yes. Even testing if the father is the real father upon birth I support, less worried about the cheating part, more worried about baby swapped at birth part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:47 AM
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I think it's the opposite. Attitudes towards casual sex haven't changed its just that men get less of it, not because men's standards are higher, but because they get rejected more, even by women who wouldn't if online dating didn't exist. And from my perspective, it seems like everyone in the late 90-10's was wildin and rawdogging it all the time. Stories millenals tell me straight up make us gen Z look prude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:42 AM
1

I'm not homeless so that just leaves ugly and awkward. Not sure how much of that I can change without meeting people.
/r/seduction24/08/22 10:42 PM
1

I never state my preferences in my bio. Just no point in me mentioning subjective things like beliefs, politics and manners in my comment as they have no tangible meaning to someone else. Objective, easily measurable things like weight are easier to compare, weigh and understand.
/r/seduction24/08/22 10:41 PM
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"you can be friends and still have sex with her" God bro that sentence alone makes me jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:13 PM
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Who are you talking about? Men or women? Both? Sentence easily applies to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:11 PM
3

As a general rule? No. From my experience life, avoiding conflict comes as first priority for women before truly saying their thoughts. They'll only mention their cruel truth once is safe to do so. This only seems like the case for men because ironically many women feel safer around men than women, merely because in our society it's agreed that men won't hit women. Between the women? It's a free for all, there's no safety net until men intervene again after the swings and hair pulling starts. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:00 PM
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Because still so many people are below the already low standard. For example, all I'm asking for a girl is to: Not smoke, No tattoos, Max weight 70kg~. But even with these 3 things it's too much. Haven't matched with anyone in the last few years.
/r/seduction24/08/22 10:29 AM
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It's only a disrespect to you if you were planning on kids but your wife changed her mind. Everyone else could care less. Might have a comment about poor you but won't go any further than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:42 AM
1

Strongly agree with degeneracy and diseases not only being normalised but borderline encouraged. Mental disorder parades on the streets. Even a whole month for it. Society will take it's course, likely you won't change it. You just have stand by what you believe and to remember which side you are on otherwise the degenerates will never let you leave like crabs in a bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:01 AM
2

Great. Not only do I have to worry about how long it is and how thick it is but now I've also got to worry if it's aesthetically pleasing...? God a tripple L, so brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:27 AM
1

Shame such a sane theory is overshadowed by insane extremists
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:53 AM
2

What a disgusting world we live in. Thought only men were a problem in this, turns out nope. Everyone's a lost hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:30 PM
2

It's not predatory. One's opinions let alone their own statistic on "how much have you slept around" displays ones values and beliefs and others can see how much they're compatible. Not believing in such concepts already says a lot. The same would be if I asked someone about the Russian invasion of Ukraine and they come back at me with a "I don't concern myself with events half way across the world" tells me enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:04 PM
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So body count for women is less than men's on average and men don't like when women have slept more than them. Where's the problem? Men have set a requirement and many women fit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:58 AM
3

A good voice is rarely an enhancer but a bad voice can be a turn off
/r/seduction23/08/22 10:30 AM
3

If you have to look up to see someone's eyes that's not a construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:27 AM
1

Out of my friends, 8/10 of them are above 6ft. 7 of them are in relationships and 2 of my below 6ft friends are not. 7/8 makes 87.5% success rate. 0/2 makes 0% success rate. From my short perspective of this world, height is basically all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:26 AM
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Sounds like personal anecdotes expressed as fact. In society it's already taboo for a 30y old to date a 20y old, let alone have some 40y old pounce on a girl who's just turned 18. That is not normal and a minority within a minority of people. About dating women younger than the guy, why only blame men? I know a lot of women who only date older because guys her age are a turn off at best. And as for your statements on children and how they're perceived, it's all their parents fault. It's not soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:39 AM
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Very important. It's exactly like you describe it, stages. A marker of how far you've matured in life. The issue of most modern men having relationship capacity of a 17y old is because basically all girls from 17-late 20's are taken. There's no way to develop ones ability to manage emotions from different life's dilemmas so they're stunted. When they do get into their first relationship later in life, it'll be much harder because many women are turned off at the idea of having to teach a "child"…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:24 AM
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Entirely depends if her husband was also one of her "quick fucks", then it's fair game. Casual sex until they realised they clicked. But if her husband had to go through the conventional dating route then tough luck buddy. Clearly he then wouldn't be held to the same standard and has to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:16 AM
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Literally says she had "quick sex material." You don't go out and have sex with someone you don't find attractive, so subjectively to her she was getting railed by Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:55 AM
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Lonely men is a big deal because statistically loneliness for men gas a direct correlation with more health issue sand early death. If most of my taxes are going to healthcare for lonely men, it's in the public interest to reduce whatever it is creating a strain on the taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:42 AM
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No. For most Zoomers dating app means casual hookups and casual hookups and not real relationships. If one wants a real relationship they avoid it. 100% or Zoomers I known that are in relationships found their SO was when their friend group hung out with a friend group of the opposite sex. Weird how old fashioned that sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:48 AM
2

Body count is too high if it's above: their age - 16. Then it's too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:02 PM
5

God I hate it here. Everyone's meant for the streets ffs. No one normal left for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:12 PM
1

Youth, in this example at least. Mid 20's. Yes to having kids, minimum 3. I don't have a problem with older women, with possible fertility issues after 30 aside, I'm just not comfortable with the age gap give here. Women 2-3 years older than me already make me feel like a child, inexperienced with nothing of worth to them but the to have a woman some 10 years older than me? Am I sure I'm not being groomed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:53 PM
2

I think you're mixing up love with lust. Men have various ways to express love other than sex but lust? There's not much left since we're visual creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:48 PM
2

They only fall for Andrew Tate because he repeats the same shit that has been said over the last 10+ years by everyone. Only difference is he has a refined marketing strategy as for how to get through to most people. Be outlandish and shocking so everyone sees you for the clickbait and with big enough numbers only a matter of time before someone falls for him due to repetition of seeing him on suggested content.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:53 AM
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If there is a correct answer it's probably this. It probably is annoying for many that in society not everyone is a potential love of your life because values, beliefs and opinions can differ, but that's the reality. I think most people are scared to find someone and one thing doesn't match up to how they want to, as then either have to concede on some values or leave as they refuse to give in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:48 AM
1

Sexuality is in your power, it just doesn't mean it's consequence free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:39 AM
2

Won't the guilt eat you from the inside out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:37 AM
2

Not a factor unless they declare themselves an anti-vaxxer. Then I lose interest as their mental state isn't in the best place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:22 AM
1

Generations are alphabetical unless given a different nickname. Generation Z, now nicknamed "Zoomers" as a spin on "Boomers" than is a spin on "Baby Boomers" that is a nickname for Generation W, are the people born between 1998-2008/2012. Next comes Gen A with everyone born after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:18 AM
1

You have a weird concept of sexual attraction. That if she isn't publicly indicating to every stranger that she wants to fuck them you're not turned on by her when it's time for both of you to have sex? If I have to go down on a woman, I'm more attracted if she doesn't show any signs of sexual arousal to the public, because that means she's all for me and she's only interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:13 AM
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Personal anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much. I could use my own anecdotal evidence in school of the worse your grades are the the more girls you get, haviy a direct correlation. Personally I'd say how a guy makes a girl feel trumps everything else, from intelligence, personality to looks. Not that the others aren't a factor but they all come after they guy makes her feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:17 AM
0

Deciding to stay with a cheater is like having your house broken into and you not taking any actions to prevent it from happening again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:10 AM
1

Because the world isn't going in the direction I want 😡
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:06 AM
1

You have to take both sides with a huge grain of sand. Women will often talk about their idealistic advice irrespective of whether there's the slightest bit of you represented in what she's idealising. And a lot of men just project their fetishes onto other men, disguised as advice. Popular now is for a lot of men who only have success in hook-ups, one night stands is to go on and say to other men who want help is that they'll only be successful if he starts behaving like him. A sort of self jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:02 AM
1

Personally I believe ones nudes are more likely to be stolen by a hack rather than a partner leaking them but true, shame that even such a worry has to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:29 AM
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Dude she's mf 16. She probably still hasn't figured herself out, let alone if she wants a relationship, even less on how to deal with you. I tried a long distance relationship once. It didn't work out. Don't be needy but also no hard feelings if she one day writes to you that she needs some time for herself. You gotta let her go with no strings attached. Also age gap is very sussy. You gotta keep your head clear if she's really into you or you've just groomed her
/r/seduction18/08/22 11:58 AM
1

That's fine, not challenging your boundaries. Just wanted an opinion, maybe even a solution to a common dilemma of men being in relationships and when they want a wank, they struggle as they don't have any materials of their partner because "no photos" rule nor has their partner allowed them to watch porn. So the solution could be what? Imagination? Memories? Or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:52 AM
1

Love this, especially the part about what happens in the bedroom being used as "ammunition." Far to common not only do people share with their close friends what they do in the bedroom, sowing 2nd doubt about their partners performance and often in arguments something intimate is used to tear the other person down. Always devastating, especially mentally. Borderline abuse. Question, when you say no photos or videos, does that include sending something to your partner so they don't have to watch …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:18 AM
3

That's on them and the man who has to have no issue with his woman seeing herself as disposable for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:00 AM
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Sorry but it's disgusting. Wouldn't be able to read such a book, about someone degrading themselves and thinking nothing has changed because time has moved on. How can I think highly of myself when I'm am dating, sleeping, revolving my life around someone that everyone else sees as the lowest of the low. If our relationship will be the lowest common denominator, it makes sense then to try out the same thing because there's nothing to lose in a sense, because any dignity gas already been lost but…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:24 AM
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I don't think there is an immoral standards. Problem is that either people get malicious with their preference or other who refuse to accept that they don't fit the other persons sense of attraction and tries to belittle them for their own ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:17 PM
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Rightly identified issue, completely the wrong analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:04 PM
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You can say that about everything in life. You exist? Creampie. They exist? Creampie? Meal? Creampie and now chef exists to make you your food. Lightbulb? Creampie made a scientist who created that thing. Fuel exists? Creampie make living thing, it's dead and compressed now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:49 PM
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I disagree with this a ton. Yes there are a lot of men who expect a woman to be hairless because they don't even know that having hair can be a thing. Glad I'm at the stage where it's indifferent and just matters what she's comfortable in, being shaven or not. Put anyone in the spotlight and they'll say the socially moral thing. Personally I know a ton of guys who date chubby, overweight, borderline obese women but I don't know a single overweight guy who has a girlfriend. In my experience it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:44 PM
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They very much do. Often they're even worse because they don't have to worry about someone stalking their history trying to doxx, delete or ban them because someone online didn't approve of their opinion about a sensitive topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:19 PM
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I wouldn't say that men marry the first thing that comes when they're ready to marry, more that the first woman they get to meet often ticks all the boxes a man looks for in a partner because they're not that high to begin with and has no need to "upgrade" like how many times I see women described in their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:13 PM
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No. Under the law she might be an adult but mentally there's no way. It's only there so government can have young fit cannon fodder for its armies. In a way I feel like the minimum age of adulthood should be raised to at least 25. Or have some sort of 2nd phase with protections cause so many 18-25 year old makes life changing mistakes because they just didn't know yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:02 AM
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That's not what chasing is tho, that's already after the chasing is done and you're on a date...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:21 AM
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I don't think that's entirely 1 to 1 as many women feel exposed/uncomfortable without makeup, shaving, hair etc as without it they don't feel like they are what a woman should be. I don't feel like a lesser man because I don't chase, nor so I feel more like a man because I do. I just feel annoyed to waste time because when you finally can have a one to one you get dropped because some dude can do drifts in his M3 E46...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:19 AM
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Hard to say what a woman should "do." I think it's easier to say what not to do. As long as a girl has good manners and values, just don't betray these manners and values. Keep them in check with no hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:06 AM
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God the validation part is a great write. I feel like most men go years within being validated by what they are. Years without a hint of being wanted, desired or even acknowledged of their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:57 AM
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Forgot to put that for women plans don't stop at 30, just they often they prioritise life differently which quickly ramps of in quality of life where as a man of equivalent age can't keep up. Where often a woman at 25 is already in a relationship, living in a place with someone to start calling their place a home but a 25y old man will have barely anything to his name than a starting career and maybe a car. Men often forget that their most fun in life will be mid thirties, so at 25 it all seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:52 PM
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Yes, that is what one has to do when they're at the final stretch but that's not where I am and many others. The uphill starts here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:28 PM
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No, the first step to addiction and treating things that are causing issues is to have a reduced about of whatever it is that's troubling you. If you suddenly stop you're gonna have withdrawal issues and guaranteed to rebound. If porn is a problem, first you have to reduce the "strongness" of it somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:39 PM
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Because for women the first signs of fertility issues start appearing around 30, give or take. That's why nearly every woman I know either had the kids they wanted before 30 or are planning to. Literally single digit number of women that I know who successfully had a kid after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:36 PM
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God, so many men here deflecting rather than admitting that we have a problem. Would be nice if OP gave some advice on healthier porn solutions. How get we solve years of inadequacy. Watch smoll pp porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:35 PM
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No, pretty sure mainstream hetero porn is nothing but ripped, shredded, 9+ inch length, girthed dicks. Just check what's on sites like Vixen, Tusky, Hegre and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:16 PM
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I don't envy women because there's more to life than sex and who I can have a child with. Remember, it takes two to tango. A girl who wants me can't get me to get her pregnant if I don't decide I want to as well. If there is any evy for men against women it's how young seem to get a better quality of life then young men. Older men pick them and get treated much better. From material stuff, to fulfilling wild sexual fantasies and social attention. But that's agiven. The biological clock is agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:07 PM
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Only logical that the older you get the more you'll sleep with and that's fine just gotta keep it in self respecting values. I'd say if she's had more sexual partners than: her age - 16, then she's riding a cock carousel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:33 PM
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As a general rule that's what everybody sticks by. Maybe the odd woman might get off to a novel but these days everybody consumes porn. You said porn is a new problem that's come as a replacement. A replacement for what? What do most people use porn for? To get themselves off. This implies that getting themselves off is now a replacement for pursuing women which is just wrong, otherwise this would have stopped thousands of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:05 AM
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Of course they're possible without each other but I'm only talking about the majority of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:00 AM
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No dude. If you watch porn = masturbate. If you masturbate then you're doing the same things man has doing since day one. Porn is not gonna change that, just the material itself is now more interactable. Pretty sure 80% of the population masturbated in 500BC just as 80% does now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:10 AM
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Wtf dude masturbation has been a thing since humanity has existed. You think just because with the invention of some pixels on a screen we started stroking it? Prostitution and casual sex goes back before the Roman Empire. Rape was common. Probs even more unsupervised as teenagers. Wasn't difficult for a man to get laid even back then, let alone see a whiff of a boob. A lot of things in history have a correlation with more sex but has never been the goal or reward. Think we perfected oil paintin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:36 AM
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So what that she's slept with 30+ dudes. For some people that's a meaningless statistic, for others it's their whole personality. Whether you or I'd be comfortable with such a high body county is a different matter entirely, since they're not our significant other. You can't project or impose your standards and requirements of happiness onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:24 AM
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I rarely go to clubs, only with a group of friends. Clubs are weirdly boring. Subpar music, overpriced drinks and bouncers that snort crayons for breakfast who ruin the mood before you get in. And when you do get in it's like a 10:1 guy/girl ratio. The sausagefest isn't for me.
/r/seduction16/08/22 12:04 AM
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There's lots of research into positives and negatives of sleeping around a ton but it's such a rabbit hole of well done to skewed, biased, misleading research papers there's no point in me going point by point. Far easier to just say people come to two conclusions, they'll be bothered by your sexual or not. Problem starts when one group of people tries to invalidate the others groups valid feelings of doubt and uncomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:36 PM
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Never thought of it that way. Thanks, for next time I'll keep it in mind that splitting isn't necessarily a girl setting herself up so that she can bounce easily.
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:33 PM
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Your average restaurant, $15 main $5 desert.
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:30 PM
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Oh yes, my heart breaks for all the dates I've been on because they're such wonderful people but I can never get a 2nd date. By the time our schedules could match life moves so quickly that they've moved on and already are dating someone else.
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:29 PM
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Nope, nothing sexual or even intimate. Maybe a cliché romantic walk through the park in the evening. Most are now acquaintances or friends at most. Now that I reflect, it's mostly on me. I don't really know why I bother. I move around often for work so a long distance relationship in different timezone no one wants. My time off is long enough to finally meet someone but never long enough to go on a 2nd date so that there's some foundation for anything else to work. Maybe I should just stop attem…
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:25 PM
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In hindsight that is what I should have done. No need to announce to her what it is I want to surprise her with 🤦‍♂️
/r/seduction15/08/22 10:24 PM
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Happening more and more often. Even the guys who don't drop their girl upon finding out about the people who she's slept with and what acts she's done then keep complaining about it and can't let it go once they're drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:41 PM
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I wasn't bothered at first and thought it was the standard. The first girl I went a date and every girl after that needs their bill split. One even got annoyed at me because I found out it was her birthday that day coincidentally and offered to pay for the meal and get her some flowers as a gift from me because I didn't know. But no, split meal and no flowers. Only later did I read or hear from someone that women behave like that so they they don't feel in "dept" and can not go on a 2nd date wit…
/r/seduction15/08/22 01:24 PM
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Yes, I shoot the shot and no one responds, so...
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:37 AM
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What if no one chooses you? Do I also wait when I'm 60 till someone touches my shoulder?
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:10 AM
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Noted: be rich so u own a place to invite anyone to and not have to share a table with your parents and whoever you invited...
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:06 AM
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People can party and have fun all they want, got a bucket list of my own even. Problem is their idealisation of life. They want their cake and eat it too. It's like the male equivalent of a fairytale, like doing a heist and getting away with it to live a calm life in the riches. Life is no movie except for the 0.00000001% who you'll never be. They just can't accept that and live by impossible standards. I'd say is when people (on both sides) are outraged when the opposite sex decides to walk awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:58 AM
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Yes but out of correlation than requirement. Personally I want am intelligent woman who's not gonna be taken advantage of in life and take up an opportunity when it appears. Not all intelligent women have careers but most women that have careers are intelligent. It's an easier net to stick by.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:49 AM
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I'd say there's two types. One where the man changes themselves and their attitude to match with a specific type of woman he sees and is interested in or he waits out and sees till someone walks along who matches him already. I've got plenty of friends who are pretty much fuckboys but I won't change myself or my standards because the women they hook up with and sometimes even are in relationships aren't what I'm interested and there's nothing wrong with that. They have certain privileges in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:44 AM
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I don't know what pill I am, I'm just a man but If I understand the basic pink pull, there's some truth to its beliefs but only up to a point. There's a certain point where a woman's prettiness in a sense has "diminishing returns." Once your prettiness on on a certain level, men won't notice the extra hard work that goes into it beyond that level. How many times have women asked a guy if they notice anything different after a haircut and how most of the time they're clueless as in their eyes she…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:32 AM
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I don't think manosphere says you need to be in the top 10% to be happy, rather explaining what the top 10% is like so slowly more and more men improve themselves so that the 10% becomes, 20, 30 to even majority of the population. Everyone becomes healthier, smarter, richer and so one. A better lifem Win/Win. Even for women as there's now just more "good" men around
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 08:03 PM
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Because the amount of normal men per woman will fall. Not saying there's gonna be an incel rebellion, just our ability to stop crimes and so on will be worse compared to now because of the shortage of men who will just give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:39 AM
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Yes, seems like the change is already in motion but remove the men still holding this push back and this change to ignore will happen much faster with much greater magnitude. It'll just amplify lonely men's resentment to women and buff dudes getting puss/women being ran a train on will become far more normalised in the new society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:26 AM
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Men don't get to improve their behaviours mature because they don't get dates in the first place. Personally I'm worried about this exact thing. Extremely little relationship experience so that's why I work, go to the gym, eat healthy and make good financial decisions just to be rewarded with one Tinder match each month with a girl that's clearly conflicts with all my life's values.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:01 AM
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I doubt anything would change politically or by legislature. Incels would still be the minority and I doubt any political's gonna be able to make a successive campaign by their whole purpose being "fixing" sexlesnes. What could happen though is more indirect cultural changes, like far less good Samaritan type of stuff. Even more blind eyes turned on women's issues, such ignorance that walking alone for women will become even more dangerous. A man could see a woman get assaulted in the streets an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:48 AM
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So in the end everyone gets lonelier while the top 1% get to gorge themselves on what life has to offer. Men can't get into relationships because they have no prior experience and women don't get into relationships because they've seen what the peak man looks like and won't settle for anything lesser. I wonder how long this can be sustained. Would be funny if eventually there are so many lonely men and incels that they legit start having a political and governmental direction impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:01 PM
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I doubt anything would change. Went from 90% of guys being a 2 and 10% of guys being a 5 to 90% of guys being a 6 and 10% of guys being a 9. The ratio remains unchanged so women would still be just as picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:40 AM
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It's easier for people to box and categorise people as them having used you rather than facing up to the simple truth that you weren't enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:13 AM
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Aight, so the answer is general prior experience is apparently all that's needed. I don't read into any "bullshit" I just don't get any action. How am I meant to know? God, sitting on the sidelines ain't easy. Take it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:22 PM
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Just a bit confused. You say a man needs to read you like a book and has to know how to get you off the moment you start yet don't offer how he's supposed to do that if he's never had sex with you. Like a needing experience to get a job but need a job to get experience kinda loop here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:58 PM
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And why would it be a turn off? Should a man ahead of time read a book about the "101's of how to please GlowingAsItDazzles"* before having a fun night together?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:48 PM
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Have you seen a guy not being thrown in jail for talking to a woman? 🧐 Didn't think so. Check? Mated
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:41 AM
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But then by doing this haven't you become the male slut equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:32 AM
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You can't have your cake and eat it too tho. You want emotionless sex yet still have your foot in the door for emotions down the line...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:28 AM
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For men the ratio of risk vs reward has collapsed. Your grandfather at worst might be rejected on the spot by comparison now you can be made an example off online. Seen multiple stories online of men being falsely accused of rape and losing everything by merely being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Not saying it was ideal in the 50's but we've completely swung to the polar opposite. Why would a man take such a risk? Why would a man engage in a conversation with a woman at a bar? Why would …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:23 AM
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Curved penis appreciation let's go
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:33 PM
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Curved penis appreciation let's go
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:33 PM
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Having overheard drunk women's conversations this seem to be the case. Remember one girl got giggled at because she said 6 is the smallest she'd go and the rest found it funny that she'd settle for something like that. From a mental average seems like most would want nothing less than a 7... Ur on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:33 PM
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Or she'll ask you "is it in yet"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:30 PM
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Damn bro they most care about the girth, worst news possible 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:19 PM
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Ladies, I'm curious as no one's really mentioned it but what about having a bit of a curve? Everything is basically straight dicks from porn to educational books and no one talks about curves yet people say it's "natural." So what's the limit to how not straight a dick should be? Is it a benefit that adds to sex or something that gets in the way for a girl to enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:41 PM
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Sounds more like a guy hasn't ever been rejected and who lives in his brain constantly. That reality didn't match up with his imagination and he's having a hard time accepting that. As someone who's been rejected often it's hard to imagine a situation where my attitude to someone changes due to spite. Sure, in the moment of rejection I might feel a little humiliated by being made lesser in front of everyone but you sit down, continue your life and completely forget your kerfuffle within a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 09:28 AM
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I think the post is more about people being allowed to have a 2nd opinion about you for even trying out such acts in the first place. If my girls been ran through by a whole football team I'll likely want nothing to do with her regardless of whether she liked it or not, matured from it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:39 AM
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Tf, you can stil choose. If your choice is to be alone but you pick an abusive relationship because you fear being alone again, well then that's on you. Sometimes you have to know when to say no and be a martyr for your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:20 AM
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I don't think we've run out of spaces, more than men have been brainwashed to not be a creep by approaching women in these social places like clubs, gyms, shops, parks and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:53 AM
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Tf is an afbb phenotype. What biology shit we learning here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:32 AM
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