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douglasmacarthur/r/MensRights20/12/11 04:36 AM
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Feminismdouglasmacarthur/r/MensRights01/02/16 11:09 PM
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False Accusationdouglasmacarthur/r/MensRights26/04/18 12:16 AM
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douglasmacarthur/r/MensRights04/02/14 06:46 PM
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douglasmacarthur/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:54 PM
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douglasmacarthur/r/MensRights05/06/13 06:43 PM
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douglasmacarthur/r/MensRights13/02/12 08:02 PM
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"Logic and reason and evidence and rationality" based libs/leftists will pretend they didnt see this.
/r/MensRights13/12/20 03:24 AM
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Public education, especially as it exists, is an act of violence against all children. Especially boys, the group it's currently acceptable to go after, but all children.
/r/MensRights12/12/20 01:33 AM
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News article doesn't even mention the possible sexism or quoting someone taking issue with it. Insanity.
/r/MensRights17/11/20 05:30 PM
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No way this is real. Only men get to be berated and humiliated as a marketing strategy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/20 01:31 AM
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That would mean women aren't to blame. It wouldn't mean feminist narratives about men are true. It isn't a "privilege" to be killed by someone of the same gender.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/09/20 03:59 PM
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He would have been crucified by liberals and leftists. Who arent holding Biden to the same standard. But his supporters wouldnt care and he wouldnt be held legally accountable, no.
/r/MensRights07/05/20 07:19 PM
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Before it was like one. Now it is one.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 06:26 PM
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A lot of it is just generational I think.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/11/19 03:53 PM
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He knew this would be his only chance in life to feel alpha or whatever so he took it
/r/PussyPassDenied05/11/19 02:51 PM
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It is extremely obvious when you think about it that, from a biological perspective, men are just more prone to extremes and risk-taking. And it makes sense why this would be the case, from an evolutionary perspective. There are more male murderers for the same reason there are more male firefighters and more male billionaires. But both are spun against us. If more men do bad things, it's because we suck, but if more men do great things, it's because we're privileged.
/r/MensRights19/10/19 11:04 PM
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There's two issues here. One is the assumption men have an in-group bias like women. This isn't true. Studies show both men and women are biased in favor of women. The second is the way we ignore the areas of life in which women have more agency. The majority of politicians and extremely rich people being male doesn't automatically give men collectively way more power over institutions, when women raise most children and make up most schoolteachers, are the majority of voters, control the majori…
/r/MensRights19/10/19 11:00 PM
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Oh its already happening: https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2019-03/washington-post-its-all-young-peoples-fault-2.JPG
/r/BlackPillScience07/09/19 04:10 AM
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Because feminism (or today's feminism and academic feminism) is a coping mechanism for their self-hatred. They hate themselves as much as incels hate themselves.
/r/MensRights24/03/19 05:41 PM
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Lots of people do bad things because it's considered normal. It's unfortunate but it doesn't make you "vermin" and the fact you realized it was wrong and regret it signals to me you're probably a better parent than most people.
/r/MensRights27/02/19 03:57 AM
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Good on you for acknowledging that you shouldn't have.
/r/MensRights27/02/19 03:54 AM
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I would say the biggest "privilege" is being born into a functional, supportive family that loves you. One aspect of which is that it isn't living in poverty, yeah, but there are people that grew up with wealthy parents that were super manipulative and abusive that I wouldn't consider very privileged.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 09:10 PM
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I agree but tbh I think this goes both ways somewhat. In that it's easy to see the opposite gender as more privileged if you're picturing an attractive, healthy white person that grew up with a wealthy, supportive family.
/r/MensRights27/01/19 07:14 PM
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And we hate/devalue men so much you'll be belittled for feeling this way. Which only proves you right.
/r/MensRights20/12/18 10:10 PM
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We do praise people for your examples. Just when they're children. Then eventually we stop having to.
/r/MensRights02/06/18 05:37 AM
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Starting in childhood
/r/MensRights01/06/18 10:36 PM
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Depends on what women you're talking about. I agree his statement was overly generalized. Feminists on social media and types like that do, though. Not all women are like that stereotype but they exist.
/r/MensRights26/03/18 10:23 PM
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I don't know why you're getting downvoted. McKellen's point is valid as it applies to consensual sex, but the comment you're replying to is ignoring that Weinstein was accused of actual rape.
/r/MensRights19/12/17 05:15 PM
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because the mother seems to be using the children That is my issue with it as well. If hypothetically the kid were doing this of his own volition, and there was nothing crass or sexualizing about the way it was being done, I'd be okay with it. But further investigation confirms that neither is the case.
/r/MensRights03/10/17 08:52 PM
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There's videos of this kid online like opening for a drag contest at a strip club and shit. Imagine a father did this with his daughter. Jesus.
/r/MensRights03/10/17 08:49 PM
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When are we going to teach mothers not to abuse the future rapists and murderers?
/r/MensRights13/09/17 07:05 AM
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Imagine someone arguing "Minorities get tougher sentences because of racism towards white people. White people are seen as more fragile, so we're the real victims there."
/r/MensRights13/09/17 06:50 AM
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Yeah, shitting on men has been the theme of mainstream culture for over 40 years. It's amazing how almost every outlet is dominated by people like this and yet they pretend they're a brave minority speaking out against the machine.
/r/MensRights30/07/17 09:18 AM
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This person is really triggered that we think men should be able to use the bathroom lol
/r/MensRights29/07/17 04:35 PM
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"Somehow" being because you're very obviously ideologically aligned with them.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 04:15 PM
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It isn't for you to get your jollies off by circlejerking over anti-men discrimination. Yeah you and this mod definitely sound like you're assessing this based on an objective application of the rules.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 02:12 PM
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Love that edit. "Quit making men not being allowed to use the bathroom about men" lmao.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 12:53 PM
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I am 15 and my mom will probably help with money until my bf gets a job. I know they not a pet but they're such cuties!!!! Poor boyfriend? his going to be a father its not like i did anything that bad. I hope you get stabbed and lie in your own blood and pass out and die :D This is absolutely a troll.
/r/MensRights21/07/17 07:55 PM
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Unfortunately the automod here wont let me link to them directly, but go on FB/Twitter/their website's contact page and let them know. If enough people do, they will take notice.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 09:14 PM
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Are you implying sensitivity makes you less sexually desirable and less of a man? Get that toxic masculinity out of here, shitlord.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 09:11 PM
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I assume he is using it to demonstrate the double standard, not saying they should actually put that up.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 08:55 PM
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A lot of them do, and I definitely don't identify with feminism as an ideology, but when the sign says "we've had equality for 42 years, get fucking over it" it seems to be implying women never experience sexism, which isn't true. Everyone's experiences are different and anyone can experience discrimination. The premise that you're either in a Victimhood-Approved Group or not is exactly what we need to get away from.
/r/MensRights12/06/17 10:42 PM
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I don't think she is. We should be promoting empathy. "Your issues aren't real, get fucking over it" is the same thing feminists say to men who express their victimization.
/r/MensRights12/06/17 10:23 PM
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Definitely, but he did say "women" not "feminists."
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:07 PM
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Maybe the people saying the first thing should stop pretending the people saying shit like the second don't exist and we're hallucinating the fact we're hated?
/r/MensRights20/05/17 12:20 PM
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I don't see any comments talking about how this proves women are awful? How men treat other men is definitely relevant to this subreddit.
/r/MensRights15/05/17 06:29 PM
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OP's title is a bit hysterical saying that it "openly incites" violence, but I do think it's problematic to joke about attacking men for what they say, if you're a group of people who would find the inverse very offensive.
/r/MensRights05/03/17 07:57 PM
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Do you speak out against the feminists that do bash men, which there are a lot of? If so, I believe you and support you.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 05:55 AM
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You may be right, but I don't think it is really central to the theme of the article, which is that the amount of power your group has on average doesn't invalidate your suffering or justify bigotry.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 12:41 AM
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Imagine if an association of black students had to pay more because of the security needed to protect them from white supremacists. I'm not really an MRA but I hate the complete disregard for the rights of people who disagree with them that campus feminist organizations usually have.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 09:06 PM
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I came here from /r/all and I agree.
/r/seduction28/01/14 07:12 AM
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call it 'one weird trick to get laid,' NECKBEARDS HATE HIM Your City man gets laid four times a week using this weird old trick.
/r/seduction28/01/14 07:10 AM
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Some great info on this but I feel like #6 is hyperbolic and could discredit it somewhat.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 10:31 AM
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I agree this behavior is more widespread than many assume and should be taken more seriously but "this is always their go to" is an overstatement.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 10:16 PM
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"Butthurt troll"? Yeah I dont argue with grade schoolers, sorry.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 09:23 PM
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You ignored the substance of what he was saying and attacked him in a hyperbolic way because he dared to imply something that could be taken as a criticism of Obama? There is already a subreddit for that
/r/MensRights10/04/13 08:37 PM
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Seriously. I'm getting tired of it being assumed I'm pro-rape somehow by default. It's called Marxism dude. Either you're with their tribe or you're a shill for the ruling class.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 08:31 AM
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Next fall you should refuse and see what happens. Don't get in a ton of trouble just to make a point, but see how far you can go. It's idiotic that they make you sign something given you're forced to follow those rules anyway. It's just a way to manufacture the appearance of consent. Wow, I just remembered, there was a thing like that in my sixth grade class a bit over ten years ago that I recall never signing, haha.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 03:31 AM
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I agree, but unfortunately you forfeit those rights as soon as you breach the school walls. ...which they're legally required to breach. Obviously, if you voluntarily enter someone's property and they inform you of the rules ahead of time, you have to follow them, and they aren't restricted the way a government is. But the fact that the government legally requires students to go to school, then uses their presence on the school as a way to deny their rights, is awful. I am so happy I am not a mi…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 09:47 PM
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I've met and debated with quite a few feminsts that had completed an undergraduate degree in women's studies or the like, yeah. And read feminists' books and essays... Feminists disagree a lot and there have been a lot of internal subdivisions among feminists through history, yeah. That doesnt change the fact that it is a political philosophy and has fundamental ideas that essentially every educated self-described feminist shares. There is a lot more common to feminists than "men and women shoul…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 08:31 PM
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I will concede that a mentality of ignoring mens issues because there are supposedly bigger women's issues is flawed. But your understanding of woman is very flawed indeed if you actually believe the things you stated in your original comment. You bring up a number of valid mens rights issues and then you blame them on your warped perception of woman as delicately emotional 1950's housewives. Do you actually think men dying in wars make woman feel underappreciated? You're misinterpreting the int…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 08:13 PM
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Feminism is by definition advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. It is that and more. It advocates a specific philosophy of what equality is, how inequality is maintained, and how equality can be obtained, a deeply flawed philosophy that is detrimental to both men and women. One major flaw in it is that it treats "equality" in terms of the total economic and political power held in aggregate by that group and all gender issues as a consequen…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 06:09 PM
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Honestly, it really isn't. It makes perfect sense to write off women's issues in the areas where men clearly have it worse... at least so the funding is proportional to the actual problem. It doesn't make sense to have 90% of the funding go to a gender that only makes up 10% of the problem. "Write off" doesn't mean "shift funding." I mean to dismiss it and to act as though the women's problem is meaningless. That is different from arguing, in an appropriate context, that X is more severe for Y a…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 05:32 PM
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#ineedfeminismbecause men are only twice as likely to commit suicide #ineedfeminismbecause hearing about how men die in wars and industrial accidents makes me feel underappreciated #ineedfeminismbecause female criminals are occasionally sentenced as harshly as male criminals #ineedfeminismbecause the social expectation that men violently compete with eachother to cater to me threatens my sense of independence #ineedfeminismbecause voicing my pain being socially acceptable wont feel as special if…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 01:50 PM
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If you believe these things, then I would encourage you to submit it to a feminist subreddit to inform them and observe the reaction. Not sure what I would learn from that given what I described is a minority of those that identify as feminist and not the subset that would be likely to participate (or be tolerated in) a "feminist subreddit."
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:19 AM
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Any NAFALT-ers want to explain to me why all of the "good feminists" aren't complaining about the U of T's radical feminist student union members trying to force their hateful ideology by silencing those who disagree with them? Im a NAFALTer of sorts. My explanations... They dont know about it. A lot of people say theyre a "feminist" because they dont follow these issues closely and just think it's a generic term for "person who thinks women are equal and wants to make it so bad things happen to…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 09:05 AM
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To those who say "neither" - if things like this had to be gender neutral so women had to as well, I bet it'd be a lot easier to end it.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 03:39 AM
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This isn't discrimination unless it could be shown that a female billionaire with a common-law husband would not be required to pay him. After 7 years of cohabitation - and the fact that he earned his money during their relationship / cohabitation - means that she is entitled to some of it. That's the way the law works and it isn't sexist as long as it goes both ways. That can be shown. All laws like this are one-sided in how they're implemented. Further, the reason laws like this have been kept…
/r/MensRights19/01/13 10:23 PM
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Yeah but men don't suffer from INSTITUTIONAL discrimination. Wait, are courts institutions?
/r/MensRights19/01/13 07:20 AM
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Except, that's not an "extremist" feminist position. That men are the oppressers and the beneficiaries of patriarchy, and therefore their issues and problems are of secondary importance and not analogous to that of women, is an explicit, core part of feminist ideology. Feminists dont hate men or want women to have it better than men. But they think men have it better than women so consistently and by such a margin that they believe any serious concern with men's issues is just a ploy to distract…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:55 AM
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I see where youre coming from, but I hope those in this thread saying "Hey, every problem counts" are at least cognizant of how that contrasts to the feminists that go ";_; cry baby MRAs think they have real problems like women lol."
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:42 AM
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Yeah but if you used that as an essential example of why your ideology is valid, people would at least be justified in finding that a bit silly.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:38 AM
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Besides, it's nothing but fallacious reasoning. Given that there's no conclusion being deductively proven (i.e. no "reasoning"), there is nothing in this to be fallacious in the first place.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:32 AM
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A lot of this is semantics. Much of mainstream culture just defines feminism as something like "active concern for the interests, rights and well-being of women and the issues related to them," and many self-described "feminists" use this definition. But "feminism" in academia and among the more educated in general represents a specific ideological system which is explicitly collectivist, statist, and hostile towards men's issues. And equivocating between these two definitions is one of the main…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:15 AM
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How are we supposed to do that with their policy of banning dissenters? Feminists can come here and talk to us if they want, the same is not true the other way around. Uh, is that true? /r/feminism was pretty open last I checked, as is twoX. SRS isnt but they dont represent everyone they vaguely agree with.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 10:04 AM
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Prepare for violent reprisals - equipment, posters, etc. being destroyed, entrances being blocked, any attempt to communicate club business disrupted and yelled over, etc. Make a plan for dealing with it. Violent suppression of people who disagree with them is one of the many footnotes following "Feminism is only about equality."
/r/MensRights12/01/13 11:55 PM
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I understand the premise of the metaphor. But there are plenty of examples of "waking up" from some kind of illusion in fiction from over the years, and I think another one other than this would be better.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/13 05:55 AM
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Hey guys, I'm benevolently skeptical of your whole theory. I consider myself a neutral observer, taking a look at this place out of curiosity. But I have to say, the whole Matrix thing is really lame. You can't find a better analogy than a childish action movie? Come on. You can do better.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/13 09:33 AM
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Is he implying we shouldn't treat men - and women who don't have or intend to have children - well?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 04:29 PM
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It depends on your definition of feminism. If your definition of feminism is "those concerned with women's issues and who fight for the individual rights of women" (e.g. Ayaan Hirsi Ali) then there is nothing wrong with feminism as such. If your definition of feminism is the specific ideology spread by academic feminists, feminism is the enemy, because it's anti-individualist, and because it sees the issues men deal with as intrinsically unimportant. Tell them you'll stop demonizing feminists wh…
/r/MensRights22/12/12 03:53 PM
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Ironically that song in the film is animated with shots of Mulan overcoming gender stereotypes demonstrating that women can aspire to the same 'masculine' values portrayed. Yeah but she does it through her own sheer ability and willpower, and shows the men up on the same standards, on her own merit as an individual. In the feminist version of Mulan she would lobby the government to create minimum quotas of female soldiers with lower admission standards and less stressful training.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 02:34 PM
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He should bribe her with cash if he's honest, a cancelled check or cancelled credit card if he isn't. I don't think "honest" is a factor when trying to get a violent psychopath out of your own house.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 06:04 PM
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Yeah but more Senators have the same type of sex organ as him so he doesn't have real problems. He should just call in a favor with one of them, he probably knows a few personally.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 02:15 AM
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Title IX
/r/MensRights26/11/12 03:04 PM
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I'm starting to think this communism thing isn't all that great after all.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 03:13 PM
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This is really exaggerated and one-sided. We face some double standards. So do they.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 03:48 AM
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Yes, but the people they handed it to are small-f "I'm concerned about women's issues" feminists, not advocates of the academic neo-Marxist feminism that SRS advocates, so they're indignant.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 12:00 PM
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That's what he said, /r/askreddit
/r/MensRights13/08/12 11:39 PM
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I disagree with her on several things but I am disappointed to see this get downvoted and people respond so rudely. This was obviously a good faith attempt to increase understanding, she was pretty cognizant of where we might differ from her, and she obviously put a lot of effort into the post.
/r/MensRights27/07/12 09:26 PM
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Japan will be the central economic power in the world, owning or controlling a significant part of European and American industries. This "economic dictatorship" will be beneficial to Japan's client states, since Japan benefits by keeping its customers healthy and wealthy. Indeed, a peaceful and prosperous world community will owe its existence to this Pax Japanica. Swwwwwing and a miss. I love how Japanese economic domination and the USSR still existing are both so key, while each would prove f…
/r/MensRights27/07/12 08:57 PM
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I agree with your general point but I think articles about women committing violent crimes and sex crimes make sense given the cultural perception that they don't.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 07:17 PM
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In her defense she, as she put it "says a lot of things."
/r/MensRights24/06/12 05:20 AM
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You've obviously never been to Israel.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 05:13 AM
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If all U.S. troops were drawn back tomorrow? That's debatable. If the military ceased to exist? There would definitely be carnage for the entire Western world. Those who enlist have no choice about which engagements they're willing to participate in, and our freedom and security depends on the existence of the military for those engagements which may be necessary (and the expectation, in minds of potential threats, that it will be there). So, regardless of whether you agree any particular engage…
/r/MensRights18/06/12 12:13 AM
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They dont conflict. Author is confusing a woman's right to choose with a woman's right to live in a society without criticism of that type of choice. I think those criticisms are stupid, but, they don't violate her rights, anymore than an ill-informed criticism of an editorial violates the author's free speech.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 01:37 PM
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Fortunately this is the kind of thing MRAs and feminists can agree are crap.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 11:28 AM
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It used to be more expensive to take pictures.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 02:02 PM
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I agree the poster didn't pick the best material but let's not lambaste someone who's on the right track.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 07:59 PM
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I'm okay with this - sometimes there are correlations. The problem is that, on the other hand, when there are fewer women fire fighters or something because the correlation is in the opposite direction, they regulate it and create quotas etc.
/r/MensRights26/05/12 10:21 PM
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Breaking: Something happened. Men are to blame. Women are the victim. State coercion is the solution.
/r/MensRights23/05/12 11:28 AM
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Then this doesnt change anything and they shouldnt be opposed to it.
/r/MensRights20/05/12 07:12 PM
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I didn't mean to include child support. That's a whole other category. I believe I agree with child support, but there should be more oversight that it's actually being used on the child than there is.
/r/MensRights20/05/12 03:55 PM
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Anyone should be able to divorce at any time, with or without consent. But alimony and the like should be abolished.
/r/MensRights20/05/12 10:07 AM
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I don't understand why people frame it as though you have to either assume guilt or assume the woman is lying. We shouldn't automatically prosecute or shun a guy who's been accused of rape because of the possibility the woman is lying, but that doesn't mean we have to assume the woman is lying and punish or berate her for lying.
/r/MensRights12/05/12 03:05 AM
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Or not a law against the inverse.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 08:34 PM
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and that if someone really cared about equality they would call themselves an egalitarian. But the same applies to men's rights advocates of course. But those are distinct in both history and etymology. The major institutional and intellectual leaders of feminism espouse female chauvinism or other collectivist/Marxist ideas, and the term "feminism" uses the sex as the subject of the ideology, not the object. "Feminism" literally means an ideology based on feminity - femininity-ism - not an ideol…
/r/MensRights03/05/12 03:42 PM
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Agreed. It's another instance of feminism making misoginy worse by discrediting opponents of it. People see that and it encourages them to write off actual defenders of women's rights as "bitchy feminists."
/r/MensRights29/04/12 04:44 PM
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I wouldn't say it's a badge of honor given that a majority of what they link to actually is racist or sexist, or at least stupid and tactless. That's their strategy, to package actual racism and sexism in with comments that criticize their agenda as a way to discredit the second.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 04:21 PM
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You're right. So maybe there's nothing to see here and we reacted because we misunderstood it being called "assault" to mean "violent."
/r/MensRights26/04/12 04:55 AM
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Well the punishment should be dictated by the law. It stands to reason there is or should be some kind of law against "minor assault" or "minor harassment" for someone who uses deliberate force on someone once that doesn't result in injury or significant property damage. A fine of several hundred dollars or one night in jail or something would be enough.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 10:29 PM
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Uh, no, why put it in terms of the person's profession or emotions? It's illegal to run up to someone on the street, grab something from their hand, and push them, as it should be.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 10:17 PM
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While that guy is an idiot and should face some kind of punishment, it's not "assault."
/r/MensRights25/04/12 10:05 PM
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Comment: i've defended myself from a female attacker and was arrested for it. Responses: seriously, that's the funniest thing I've heard all day. LOL and man card has been revoked and You got arrested for being aPUSSY. Men, feminists say, have more utility on average, and men in general having more utility creates a society of privilege for all men, including those who apparently don't. It's good for you to have other people of the same sex have more power, even if you don't have it directly. Bu…
/r/MensRights24/04/12 09:20 PM
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We constantly hear Men shouldn't use force on women, even in retaliation. and Men don't need legal or institutional support when women are violent against them. They're capable of defending themselves. So, violence is never the answer, but we shouldn't seek legal assistance because we're more capable of inflicting violence. Brilliant. So, basically, males morally should be willing slaves to the whims of any passing woman.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 09:12 PM
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Good for him. Unfortunately black men have the double dip of discrimination in the legal system for their race and their sex.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 12:59 PM
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A gain in life expectancy should be equal among men and women' Uh, no. They should be as high as possible regardless of the other. What the hell? Why is it assumed that it's not a biological thing? They say it is regarding women living longer in the first place. Hey, we're just making up for the life expectancy increase advantage they necessarily had some time in the past!
/r/MensRights23/04/12 05:21 AM
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The purpose of feminism is to take the premise "sexism is bad" rooted in the popular belief in the liberal conception of individual rights and that it applies to women, and equivocate it with the premise "sexism is bad" rooted in the Marxist philosophy of zero-sum battles between castes and the irrelevance of the individual, to smuggle that Marxist philosophy into our popular culture.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 10:45 PM
3

I like how these media guys will just toss out that /mr is sexist like it's self-evident. Idiots.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 11:31 AM
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Judging feminism as a whole on the misandrist things most (of the many) feminist writers, academics, and policy-makers have said is "generalizing them unfairly," but judging MRA as a whole on cherry-picked anonymous Internet comments from a baiting thread isn't. Got it.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 08:23 AM
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Half the top comments in that thread were like "Okay, I'm 99% sure you're a troll, but just in case you're not, this is what you should do..." Sorry we don't refuse to help people because there's a chance it'll hurt our PR!
/r/MensRights08/04/12 08:19 AM
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Use Marxist sociological conjecture as your axiom. Go into science, finding things that confirm your Marxist sociological conjecture. Feminism is backed by science.
/r/MensRights02/04/12 01:37 PM
3

Why not both?
/r/MensRights02/04/12 01:18 PM
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What follows "it's more along the lines of" is a dialogue, not a description of a character. Basically, you're not making a coherent statement.
/r/MensRights26/03/12 06:41 AM
1

What is more along the lines of that?
/r/MensRights26/03/12 05:43 AM
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Yeah, so the message is: to be an intelligent male with thoughts other than how to beg a girl to bang you, you have to be an asexual with asperger's. Sheldon's character is still entertaining and I enjoy the show sometimes, but in the context of the show that's what it says.
/r/MensRights25/03/12 09:19 PM
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Agreed on both counts, but I take the second position.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 03:23 AM
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The GOP isn't attacking birth control. It's attacking the use of government force to subsidize it. http://i.imgur.com/6Z2OI.jpg
/r/MensRights21/03/12 02:31 AM
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/r/mensrights and /r/srs: fighting for emancipation by fighting eachother
/r/MensRights17/03/12 03:40 PM
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That's false equivalence!!! Men and women aren't equivalent. Women, for instance, matter.
/r/MensRights26/02/12 09:07 PM
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Neither of the things you're challenging - "we are men and men were in BoN and therefore we're awesome" or "men are better than women" - are being said by the picture or in this thread.
/r/MensRights08/02/12 04:30 AM
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My comment to the creator of this... First of all, that you’ve heard something before isn’t an argument against it. Perhaps you’re not convinced because of evasion or ignorance. Second of all, the reason you hear comparisons to men when talking about womens’ issues is that feminism is fundamentally divisive. It names itself after one gender and names the enemy (patriarchy) after another, while proposing the premise that the sexism men face is so much less as to be negligible. This is false and h…
/r/MensRights19/01/12 11:10 AM
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If that were the case you would say that, not specify a category that happens to correlate with it somewhat. You would say "give help to those who need it most." You wouldn't say "women" any more than you'd say "short people."
/r/MensRights19/01/12 10:57 AM
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SRS: LOL THOSE CHAUVINISTS ARE AFRAID OF DROWNING LOLZ WHAT ABOUT TEH MENZ? When there's a disaster our privilege will save us amiright?
/r/MensRights19/01/12 10:54 AM
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He says all women have that in common. This doesn't necessarily imply that most men aren't vulnerable to violence, only that not all men are. Maybe he has knowledge of a secret team of genetically modified super soldiers the government has cloned, all of which are male, that are not vulnerable to violence, so he just added the qualifier "women" as a technicality.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 10:40 PM
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I agree. Repost from another thread: If the only difference between MRAs and feminists were that feminists believe women face some more sexism and MRAs believed men faced some more, that wouldn't be very divisive. We could each put our resources where we think they're more needed and basically be in harmony. I don't know who faces more sexism. It's not that important an issue to me, because how much discrimination an individual faces isn't the same as the average his or her respective gender fac…
/r/MensRights30/12/11 11:18 PM
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I made a chart diagramming this basic point recently.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 11:13 PM
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Eh, it's a silly exaggeration, but it's just an image macro; it's clearly supposed to be.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 11:36 AM
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We dont straw man feminism. All the substance in feminism is as we describe it and anyone who doesnt ascribe to those beliefs has no reason to call themselves a feminist.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 09:54 AM
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Those do suggest it, but, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt. That is pretty bizarre though. Maybe it's a feminist sockpuppeting as an MRA sockpuppet to make us look bad. Double sockpuppet!
/r/MensRights25/12/11 07:20 PM
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Third wave feminism isn't a coherent enough philosophy to judge monolithically. Some third wavers I'd say I basically agree with, but I think they're making a mistake by using the term "feminism."
/r/MensRights25/12/11 06:52 PM
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We need more mods.
/r/MensRights25/12/11 06:19 PM
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I think you could make a good case that feminism hurts women more than men.
/r/MensRights25/12/11 05:16 PM
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Great to hear this. I enthusiastically agree and I hope MRA is as welcoming to pro-equal rights women as possible. False accusations make rape easier and rape makes false accusations easier. The same basic principle applies to the various other ways men and women are mistreated. What we need to understand is that everyone who believes in rationality and individual rights is on the same side. Sexism against one group only encourages and desensitizes us to sexism against the other. It's not male v…
/r/MensRights25/12/11 05:08 PM
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Not genocide, just separatism eh? i'm one of those bad, shameful feminists who wish we could just kill all the fuckers link violent revolution is the only answer link i want violent political, social, and military revolution link From the blog and its comments (just one post)... As to what that cure may be, my best bet is that what’s wrong with men is that their androgens need genetic modification. I’m serious about this. If we can do it with corn, men ought to be easy and And look at animals… p…
/r/MensRights23/12/11 04:31 AM
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Saying it's "being planned" is hyperbolic. They were saying it's necessary, not that they were going to do it, and they obviously don't have the means to. But, I agree you can't just wait to take action about these things. First, because advocating radical violence unchallenged desensitizes us to and legitimates milder forms of violence. Secondly, because any terrible idea will be accepted eventually if it goes unchallenged - this is one step in that process. As a great writer said, today's unco…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 10:20 AM
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/r/shitredditsays uses derision and sarcasm as a substitute for reasoned argument. Patting each other on the back and attacking straw men (with their facetious statements) gives them reassurance which, being feminists, logic can't. Feminism has the disadvantage of being unreasonable but the advantage of being the status quo, so suppressing critical thinking is in its interests.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 09:32 AM
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It's disgraceful and 1000000000000000000000% more likely to cause legit harm to a real live person than their moronic fantasies about their women only utopia. I explained why these are more than "moronic fantasies" in this post. Additionally, do you think that day care worker isn't doing any harm to the boys and girls whose parents are entrusting them with her? Do you think that Arts and Culture policymaker isn't contributing to the dehumanizing of men in pop culture? It's amazing how you people…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 06:21 AM
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Thanks
/r/MensRights22/12/11 05:30 AM
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but this would be punishing them for having their own ideas in a way that they would punish us for fighting for men's rights. This is a false equivalence. We're fighting for equal rights. They're advocating violent extermination. Have you read the comments? It's not just comments like "men are disgusting pigs and I hate them." It's stuff like Even if we killed off 90% of men, the majority of women left over would do their best to keep the oppressive system. I’d dare say we’d have to kill off all…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 04:59 AM
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What happens to white people that are less competent than average? That doesn't stop them from having productive careers and being self-sufficient. How different do you think the average of different races might be? I don't think there's any significant difference at all. It's conceivable that there is one (in degree) so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here, but if you really think it might be so much that a large fraction of black people wouldn't be able to feed themselves without gover…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 04:40 AM
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If you give a group special help and hold them to lower standards, others perceive them to be less competent, giving them less of an incentive to be competent in the first place. The most competent, the ones who didn't need that help, will be hurt by this the most. Thomas Sowell wrote, for instance, that as a black professor, he used to get the same or more respect from students, but since affirmative action, he now gets less. This same basic principle applies to various aspects of our society. …
/r/MensRights22/12/11 04:28 AM
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To the contrary, the universities, the government, and the culture keep minorities down with the very same policies and ideas it claims helps them. No matter what form it comes in, all rational, independent people are victims of racism and sexism.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 04:13 AM
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If there were actual differences between the averages of various races then the better races wouldn't need government to give them better results. They would be able to earn them as individuals on a level playing field. There's no reason to look at it collectively in the first place. It makes no sense to say "I'm better so I deserve special advantages so that I can win, which I deserve to do because I'm better." If you really are better you'd win without those special advantages.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 04:02 AM
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So the hate mongers at SRS have decided what comments it is we're getting upset about and are deriding us for it http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/nlsbk/effortpost_feminism_inevitably_heads_down_the/c3a3ks5 How they looked at that blog post and decided that was the worst is beyond me. They ignore this gem... As to what that cure may be, my best bet is that what’s wrong with men is that their androgens need genetic modification. I’m serious about this. If we can do it with corn, men…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 03:55 AM
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Do you want people calling for genocide watching your children, writing laws, and writing and executing government policy? I don't.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 03:46 AM
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Supervisors of children and writers of public policy are calling for the extermination of half the population, and were making that public. I don't see what's wrong with that.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 03:44 AM
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I love some of the head-in-the-sand comments on /srs Yet you know that if they were the ones on the other side of this release they'd be screaming their heads off that it's a violation of their right to free speech and it was just 'words'. Because using the term "milkman" is equal to calling for systematic violence against three and a half billion people.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 03:40 AM
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http://radicalhub.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/radical-feminism-in-the-21st-century/ That post and its comments are a particularly massive cesspool of violence and hatred.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 03:12 AM
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hmm. the not raising male children one is difficult one for me as I have one!! I mean, we need female children and I’m so glad I have a daughter. SHe was my first, perhaps I should have stopped at one, but as I was saying on another thread just now I only had my radical reawakening when I was well into my second pregnancy. Oh my god, that monster has a son. I almost feel dizzy with disgust.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:28 AM
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Even if we killed off 90% of men, the majority of women left over would do their best to keep the oppressive system. I’d dare say we’d have to kill off all the women too and leave the little girls and radfems to create the utopia. I guess feminism really is "for everybody."
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:19 AM
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I think you're watering it down by calling it "hate speech." "Hate speech" is expressing a bigoted view of some group. "I hate men because they're stupid pigs" is hate speech. What they've done isn't hate speech. Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and destroy the male…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:02 AM
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Do you seriously believe that ~50 sectarian and transphobic radfems posting on a forum are somehow able to instigate a genocide? They don't need to actually instigate a genocide for their ideas to be harmful. Andrers Brevik wasn't able to instigate a war on all the brown people in Europe like he'd hoped to. But his ideas about wanting one led to a massacre. Proposing radical violence and repression as an option legitimatises and desensitizes us to lesser forms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overt…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 12:55 AM
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Can we please make a concerted effort for there to be no vigilantism going on here? Letters to employers and media outlets to get them fired and shamed for their misandry is one thing, but if these people receive irl harassment that would discredit us, in addition to being just wrong. I think it would be good if we could attach a message to all posts about this and all messages containing this information explaining that it's both counter-productive and immoral to engage or encourage real life h…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 12:44 AM
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This guy's a bigot. The last thing we need is to associate ourselves with racist reactionaries like this. Even if genetics did mean different groups were better or worse on average (which I don't think) - so what? That wouldn't be any reason for them not to be equal before the law. Clearly he believes in a government-enforced caste system, as he's using this to argue against things like "laissez-faire libertarianism in heterogeneous societies" and "unrestricted immigration."
/r/MensRights21/12/11 10:37 PM
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"Informal Sperm Donation" Sounds like an awful euphemism for an unprotected one night stand.
/r/MensRights21/12/11 09:43 AM
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Now, a feminist would probably respond to this with "well, it sounds like this individual woman is not being fair to you, but it's not equivalent to rape, so it's not so bad." And she'd be right, it isn't. Being really rude and passive aggressive and entitled to your partner isn't nearly as harmful as rape. What she'd have to hope you don't remember, however, is that equivocating violent acts with non-violent acts is a key strategy of feminist editorial. When a man looks at me funny, he's threat…
/r/MensRights20/12/11 11:29 PM
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Yes. If they were as coherent as I made them out to be, it would be too easy to see the fallacy.
/r/MensRights20/12/11 08:06 PM
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Hi Unkz, I'm glad you brought this up as I'd like to explain it. I think you're wrong, but, I'm upvoting because it's a reason-based point that contributes to the discussion. I encourage others to upvote it as well, if for no other reason than to see my response. It's long, but I think the issues you raise, both directly and indirectly, are important. Anecdotal Evidence? This implies an anecdotal response to a statistical argument. Obviously "for instance, this" isn't itself evidence. I didn't p…
/r/MensRights20/12/11 07:09 PM
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Yes, referring to the reference to ovulation. Reading your comment a second time, I probably read into it too much. It was just a pun because they're related, not a derisive reference to women. I'm overly cautious because misogyny in MRAs could really be used to discredit us.
/r/MensRights20/12/11 05:12 PM
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I'd rather not mix sex-specific slang into this. I'm criticizing feminism, not women. Most women are intelligent enough not to be feminists and many men are stupid enough to be feminists.
/r/MensRights20/12/11 04:59 PM
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It's circular logic. I didn't want to call it that in the title, though, because the diagram itself is more of an oval, haha.
/r/MensRights20/12/11 05:10 AM
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Assuming her description of the situation is accurate, which it most likely is, then obviously he was a pretty bad guy. But doing very bad things doesn't make you "guilty," as though that justified the crime. I don't know about Vietnam, but the commenter presumably was Western, and while abusive relationships are terrible, an adult in an abusive relationship here isn't in the state of total desperation that might justify a horrible act of violence like that. Additionally, the inclusion of "lied …
/r/MensRights19/12/11 09:04 AM
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I didn't edit it out of the quote because I had no reason to and because I'm not an intellectual fraud. I skipped it because it doesn't contribute to my argument, but neither does it damage it. I said those three are "among the reasons."
/r/MensRights19/12/11 08:40 AM
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Oh, you're arguing from the opposite side I thought you were. Your first two paragraphs are just narrations of what you think our motivations for being wrong are with no evidence given that we're wrong in the first place, so I'm not certain much can be said about them. Some of the "awfulnesses" of feminism... it's so ill-defined it can be defended on one set of terms and applied with a completely different set, and any "feminist" can deny responsibility for its consequences by using whichever in…
/r/MensRights19/12/11 08:33 AM
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Thanks
/r/MensRights19/12/11 07:39 AM
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You don't think it's possible for someone to call themselves a "feminist" because they're concerned about sexism towards women, honestly not seeing the awful parts of it or how fundamental they are to it?
/r/MensRights19/12/11 07:25 AM
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Letting me know isn't restricting their freedom of speech.
/r/MensRights19/12/11 07:24 AM
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Read the comment again, slower.
/r/MensRights19/12/11 06:43 AM
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One of the top comments on the castration one... if you've never been abused or in a violent situation then you have no more right to comment than the woman who posted this. Having been in an abusive relationship for over 6 years, I completely understand why the woman in this story would do what she did. I myself couldn't have done anything nearly that gruesome, but I can imagine how she could. If you don't know what it's like to be beat, lied to, cheated on, and just plain degraded on a daily b…
/r/MensRights19/12/11 04:03 AM
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Bad. Ass. Although I consider myself to be somewhat of a pacifist, I must admit, I’ve always admired a woman who has the cojones to cut off a man’s weenus. ~ Nicole Fabian-Weber, respected feminist, on a Vietnamese woman that castrated her husband in his sleep. Source. Both Olga and Viktor have been arrested, so it may take a while, but I'm sure Tarantino will fly Olga out at her earliest opportunity. She's the bad ass female lead we have been waiting for. She could play herself in a Tarantino t…
/r/MensRights19/12/11 03:55 AM
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The way I see it is, there are "good feminists" but there isn't a "good feminism." A minority of self-described feminists aren't sexist and are just using the term naively because they're concerned about discrimination against women, but they're making a mistake by calling themselves a feminist. There's no objective reason to call yourself a feminist if you're not sexist, given the terms etymology and history. Edit: So, I started making entirely civil counter-arguments on the SRS thread, for whi…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 11:41 PM
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The right should be "makes jokes about raping and castrating of males, believes assault against them should be legal."
/r/MensRights18/12/11 11:37 PM
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Masculinism doesn't have the definite, documented history that feminism does so I might be somewhat more inclined to give a self-described "masculinist" the benefit of the doubt, but I think the same basic principle applies. The etymology of masculinist is sexist just like the etymology of feminist is. Opposing sexism is the logical consequence of believing in the basic enlightenment conception of individual rights. We don't need divisive, gender-named isms to fight sexism. That's why I'm glad t…
/r/MensRights17/12/11 05:40 AM
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You can be a feminist and not be as radical as another feminist just as a guy who's especially disrespectful to women isn't as radical a chauvinist as someone who believes he should be allowed to rape them. But he's still a chauvinist. The bad parts of feminism are fundamental to it. You can vary in the degree of your feminism, but if you're a feminist, they're there in some amount.
/r/MensRights17/12/11 05:37 AM
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Someone who doesn't share the bad parts of feminism has no reason to use the word "feminism" in the first place. If you really want to defend the rights of women but don't want to be a misandrist - fine, call yourself "a defender of the rights of women." Don't give yourself a title that is by definition sexist then expect us to give you the benefit of the doubt.
/r/MensRights16/12/11 05:11 PM
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Feminism is fundamentally sexist and Marxist. "Third wave" feminists are trying to play both ends when they say they don't believe in sexism against men and the like. All of the substance of their beliefs are sexist. If they weren't sexist, they would have no reason to use the term "feminism." If you want to fight for people's individual rights and specialize on that of women, fine - call it "women's rights." Don't call yourself a sub-movement of an evil ideology.
/r/MensRights13/12/11 05:32 PM
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But the conclusion to draw from these studies isn't that women conclusively are worse abusers. It's that they also commit abuse a significant amount of time. The same standard of proof can't be applied to our argument as to the feminist's, because the feminists argue as though the evils of women are negligible. We're merely arguing that they're both significant.
/r/MensRights10/12/11 05:50 PM
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I don't know if the thread was right as I didn't read it, but, I agree with your theme here. I subscribed to Mens' Rights as a sympathizer but often it just seems to be bitter misogyny. For instance, a lot of people seem to have the attitude that all sexual assault accusations are made up and will berate and belittle any woman claiming to have been raped. When you're upset about the prejudice you've faced it's very easy to become a reactionary and try to compensate by perpetrating prejudice your…
/r/MensRights26/11/11 05:10 AM
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I didn't say he should be on the sex offender registry or anything implying that.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 10:44 PM
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So, your six year old daughter is being touched by a six year old neighbour boy who doesn't stop when she tells him to and she complains to you. You tell her "You're six, so you don't know it's a big deal, therefore you can't actually want him to stop" and do nothing?
/r/MensRights19/11/11 09:30 AM
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There's a definite biological basis to perceiving sexual parts distinctively and iirc it develops by the age of six, your armchair amateur cognitive science notwithstanding. Regardless, though... or for that matter even wrong, without the intent that comes from knowing what sex is Like I've said two or three times already it's wrong because of the intent that comes from knowing you're touching the other child in a way he doesn't want you to. This whole premise that we're imposing our own arbitra…
/r/MensRights19/11/11 09:27 AM
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I didn't say this was sexual assault or that this child was necessarily doing anything wrong. I said we should keep in mind that sexual assault between children exists.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 09:21 AM
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A 6-year-old knows what private parts are and a lot of them wouldn't want them to have them touched by another 6-year-old and if they don't, their parents should prevent it. It's completely insane that there's so much outrage at me for pointing this out.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 07:57 AM
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This is a 6 year old child. ...so his parents shouldn't stop him from touching other children in ways the other children don't like? I never said the kid should be thrown in jail or something. You guys are just like feminists, being irrationally reactionary and just doing the inverse version of the same basic evil you claim to be fighting.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 07:56 AM
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Sexual assault clearly isn't harmless. And regardless, a victim of any kind of unwanted force shouldn't have to persuade others they're right for finding it harmful. You're completely irrational, and only serving to discredit critics of feminism. Edit: "Sexual assault clearly isn't harmless" getting downvoted? Nice one, Mens' Rights.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 04:07 AM
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While there's no way a six year-old should be prosecuted, child-on-child sexual assault does exist, and while the children aren't really responsible, it is important to make sure that parents take it seriously and make the parent of the child responsible for stopping him/her if the other party doesn't like it.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 01:54 AM
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I think our culture can have a healthy debate about how acceptable it is to treat the sexes differently. The deep problem with ladies nights and things like it is that an analgous thing in the favor of men would be considered outrageous and illegal. Its the contradictory application thats evil. Regardless of your opinion on things like that, on relatively minor sex distinguishment, the deeper sexism that needs to be fought is the idea that its okay when its one sex but not the other.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 03:39 PM
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Remember that "silence means no" is not the same statement as "silence is not consent." Obviously positive consent is required regardless. It's rape to have sex with a girl who's given you no objective indication she's consenting. But even though silence and saying no are functionally equivalent in many important contexts, they're not strictly speaking the same - just as silence does not mean "I don't want a Pepsi." This distinction becomes important when context provides an objective indicator …
/r/MensRights26/10/11 05:18 PM
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HAVING A VAGINA MEANS NO YOU DONT SPEAK FOR WOMEN WOMEN DONT SPEAK FOR WOMEN ONLY ENGELS SPEAKS FOR WOMEN
/r/MensRights15/10/11 01:12 AM
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There's this poster in my registrar's office. NO MEANS NO. MAYBE MEANS NO. SILENCE MEANS NO. DRUNK MEANS NO. Doesn't maybe mean maybe? And arent the last two contextual? Shouldnt the individual make it clear to her partner when it's okay to initiate sex? And shouldn't girls be responcible for when and where and how they get drunk and their actions when theyre drunk, just like any adult? Feminists treat women like children. Granted, men don't speak for women, but neither should sociology professo…
/r/MensRights14/10/11 08:09 PM
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