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I don't know, I just know I have to accept that the media is going to be overflowing with "men bad men stupid men rapists men irredeemable" and it's like yes I get it I'm subhuman and the scum of the earth and most women view me as less than them because I'm an insecure low value waste of space so I hold my tongue when it comes to any media. I'm the monster and always will be. #allmenaretrash
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 11:18 PM
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Man and people say men bashing isn't constantly everywhere in the media. So sick of being gaslit
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/23 12:01 AM
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I half agree that not everyone should have kids, but I think a lot more people should adopt instead of adding more to the population. It's fine if you've already got a few kids or whatever, but me personally I'd rather take care of a child who already exist who needs it than adding more to the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:05 PM
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How stressful was it? If I had a partner I'd personally opt to have a visectomy on myself instead since it's quicker, safer, and can be reversed. No judgements though, must be nice to have a something big like that dealt with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:03 PM
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I'm a feminine bisexual man. Do I fit in anywhere in anywhere in the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:57 PM
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Maybe I misread op then
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:20 PM
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And to clarify because I don't want my words to get twisted, I'm not saying you being told to never open up isn't toxic. I'm saying you not opening up to your partner isn't toxic behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:17 PM
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This is not really toxic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:15 PM
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Idk why you aren't banned yet. You post this thread constantly, and you go around to every other thread replying to every single comment talking about this. Are you jealous of sex toys or something? Also for anyone wondering, this guy is completely unhinged. I told him I'm a femboy and he went on an hour long meltdown replying to all of my comments with stuff like Lol kool-aid lipped concha 😂 go take more hormones Dylan Sorry daddy touched you and made you act like a little girl I guess your dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:51 PM
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Don't have Asperger's
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:47 PM
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Are there any women who can personally confirm that they like it? Yet to find a single one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:44 PM
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Yea idk, it seems I've got a lot going against me, so I'm not gunna hold my breath
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:43 AM
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I wouldn't even go that far. Ever been on r/bisexual? Not even a lot of the bi women there would date bi men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:31 AM
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No thats not true. A lot of bi women wouldnt date bisexual men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:17 AM
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No not really. Even the women who responded earlier said they don't like feminine men and only a tiny niche of women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 11:49 PM
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He's mad that I asked him why he hates femboys and he went on a full blown meltdown. Now he's playing the victim and crying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:34 PM
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He also kept insisting he was going to block me but never did. Look through our post historys if you want to see how I "harrassed" this poor helpless little "victim"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:33 PM
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Fot those wondering he was spamming this shit at me like a psycho for an hour straight Lol kool-aid lipped concha 😂 go take more hormones Dylan Sorry daddy touched you and made you act like a little girl I guess your daddy didn’t raise you to be a man Now he wants to cry that he's being harrassed. This is actually hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:32 PM
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I was not harassing you wtf? Youre such a little cry baby playing the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:28 PM
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Says the guy who had a complete meltdown over sex toys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:27 PM
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I did ask earlier if it's true women dislike feminine men. I guess it is. Fuck my life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:20 PM
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I would want to be with someone who is as devoted to me as well yes. But your analogy doesn't work because I'm a male
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:40 PM
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So the answer is yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:57 PM
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Why is it not unequal? Is it because men by default are such low value that they must do a bunch of extra work just to make up for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:50 PM
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Men bad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:36 PM
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Tbh I wouldn't want to be with someone who sees our relationship as her expecting me to "be devoted to me like the media portrays" anyway. I want an equal partnership
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:35 PM
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You seem pretty nasty. Why are you so obsessed with other people using sex toys? Creepy and sus as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:54 PM
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but you have a preference (for one reason or another) for women and ultimately want to date a woman. More or less. That being said, there have been men I legitimately wanted to date monogamously, but in my town the only gay men want to hook up and nothing else. I got used and tricked a lot. I wish I could try dating a woman again, but that's not really even possible either. So what about just not saying anything? Because I'm outwardly feminine and everyone can tell. Pretty sure everyone's defaul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:45 PM
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One thing I'll never be able to fix is being bisexual. I like men, but they're impossible to date where I live. I honestly want to date a woman. But even bi women don't like bi guys. So idk what I can do about that. I have a lot of crippling anxiety and I feel unsafe in my own home, but I cant live anywhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:32 PM
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I'm a bisexual male so take it as you will, but in my experience from texting men, I've picked up on a few red flags: If he only wants to talk about sex and nothing else. I've talked to some guys who would street the conversation back to sex everytime, and it's boring. There's more to life and relationships than banging. Sending constant messages when I dont respond in time. I've found that a lot of men get really needy when you dont respond fast enough, with constant "you there?". I understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:26 PM
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I guess I should look into therapy. I used to go but I lost my job and can't pay for it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:07 PM
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Did you go to an all boys hs or something? No but I was just as terrified. I remember in gym class I had to dance with some girl and it was so uncomfortable because we were supposed to be looking at each other but the entire time I had my head turned completely away from her. She even said "are you scared of me or something?". Which I think I admitted I was Are you anxious about being around all women because you're afraid they'll be the annoying drama types or cliquey? The main thing I'm really…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:07 AM
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I really don't have any friends or family I can talk to about this. There isn't anyone I know that could help me through this To be specific, I don't have any irl friends to talk to about this. I do have a couple of online friends. But the same time venting only helps so much
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:02 AM
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Women interacting with you regularly and agreeing to go places with you alone probably somewhat like you. Never enough to want anything more and I just gotta learn that no woman likes me enough for that and if I'm not happy with just being friends then it's because I can't see them as humans. I just don't know how to feel anymore I'm always wrong about absolutely everything and I end up looking like the biggest idiot in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:58 AM
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I can tell you're a caring and conscientious person No please just don't lie to me. I'm not and everyone can tell that I'm not a kind or good person. I think my problem is I'm approachable enough to women that they want to be friends but never anything more. And my frustration makes me a misogynist and threat. I really need to learn no matter how much I think it no woman is ever interested in me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:51 AM
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Why do you think you're unlovable? I mean you can read this thread and probably tell why. But for the most part it's because I'm anxious, insecure, and emotionally broken. Is there something going on right now that has you stressed? I'm starting beauty school for hair styling, and being surrounded by women has been making me anxious
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:38 AM
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it isn't about you I wish being this and having this experience didn't make me such a piece of shit. I'm fully aware that woman do things out if fear and safety, and to think it's about me is a narcissistic shit take. I guess I just wish I wasn't such an unlikable unlovable shit head who all women were terrified of
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 01:35 AM
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words are a red flag that you are in danger. That I'm A danger. No one gives a fuck if I'm in danger myself. I'm a terrifying horrifying monster
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 01:12 AM
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I understand you're frustrated by the lack of romantic interactions, but just because those women didn't want to date you/sleep with you doesn't mean you're viewed as a burden to them. Of course I am a burden because I was interested in them. Women hate making friends only for it to turn out that guy liked them more. There clearly are women who want to spend time with you one on one Well clearly for the safety of women I should never be alone with one again
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 12:11 AM
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Well either way I'm here so let's just get the punching out of the way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 12:05 AM
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No woman has ever been interested and I'm a complete dumb fuck for thinking it, I know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 12:00 AM
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Your opinion is in the minority. I am a bad person
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:23 PM
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How is it their fault for not fully disclosing 100% of their life to meet your prerequisites? When did I even say this? And yes in fully aware everything that has ever happened to me is 100% my fault and if I think for a second that any woman did anything wrong I'm a shit head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:22 PM
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I didn't necessarily mean calling me autistic was an insult but now people are saying that I only care about sex and nothing else while making a bunch of jokes (or not) that I should avoid women and I blame all the world's problems on them and they'd be terrified of me in real life. So fucking just bring it. I grew up being the punching bag physically and emotionally, I've come to expect absolutely nothing else from people for opening up the wrong way at this point so I've made myself a target a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:15 PM
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Your original comment before you edited it was calling me autistic, and yes I probably am. Got any more insults? How about the classic "no wonder women don't like you/it's your shitty attitude", that one gets regurgitated a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:56 PM
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What does it matter if I put any shred of blame on women? My goal is to avoid and not speak to them because I know how much my existence burdens them so I'm clearly just a dumb fuck who should not speak to women. Got any insults? I'm an easy target now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:54 PM
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Well I'm clearly incapable of comprehending that because I'm a dumbass and like you said I literally only see women as holes to cum into and absolutely nothing else so I'm too fucking stupid to understand that. Like I said at this point my default is always to assume they don't like me at all no matter what they may say or do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:53 PM
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I guess I just need to shut up or something
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:49 PM
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I'm fully aware women are not the problem. It has been drilled in my head my entire life that women are never the problem and they're never at fault for anything. I'm aware I'm a piece of shit who struggles with seeing women as holes and I don't deserve to speak to them because I'm a fucking autistic creep and moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:48 PM
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At this point I'm just not a compassionate and caring person. I only care about myself and I'm evil because I only see women as fuck dolls. I should never speak to a woman again. But you sound very conscientious Not I'm not I'm a piece of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:46 PM
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My guy has never had a women friend and at this rate never will. That's literally a false assumption It’s as if the female gender is solely for fucking. Never for just being normal. And yea here's why I don't open up. Everything I say means I only see women as fuck toys and no matter what I'm just the evil cum driven demon who only cares about fucking every hole I see and absolutely nothing else. Whatever you want to think about me is true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:44 PM
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Yea I know I learned years ago that women talk to me and it's not because they like me. I'm aware and I'm shit who struggles always differentiating it so I never speak to women and my default no matter what even if they're on top of me naked is to assume she doesn't like me . Even if she tries to convince me otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:43 PM
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Probably. Like you said I said shitty things so just keep the jabs coming
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:38 PM
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Thanks for the jab. Hope it made you feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:37 PM
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Well thanks for letting me know then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:37 PM
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Tbh I don't know if she ever had a negative experience because she never told me. All I know is after we've been having sex for almost a month she dropped that she doesn't say no because of that. After that I only have sex with women if they give enthusiastic consent beforehand. Not that I've slept with a lot of women and that they were that "enthusiastic" about it, but that was when I kinda first learned that just because a woman skeeos with you, doesn't mean she actually likes you or is into y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:36 PM
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I've been told by a lot of women they have to lie about everything to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:22 PM
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Examples? Well there was that one girl years ago who told me she doesn't say no because she doesn't want to upset me. Thinking if that makes me want to hang myself I get the impression that no matter what I can't win. I'm even a piece of shit for expressing this. Women constantly lie to you about absolutely everything, even the smallest things because they feel they have to say what men want to hear. It's like, you can't even blame them because they have to fir survival reasons. I just wish peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:20 PM
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Read it online, been told this, experienced it It sounds like you have developed some pretty debilitating social anxiety and you should see a professional for that. Or better yet I should just never speak to women because you're all just going to tell me the exact same thing "this is above my pay grade so shut up and go to therapy"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:05 PM
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I'm too fucking stupid because everyone's always got some other game and I'll never understand that just because a woman says she likes me doesn't mean she likes me so just fuck it all. Just like AngeCruelle said, I should NOT speak to women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:00 PM
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Who does this? At least 5 women I know did this. One girl even invited me into her house with just the two of us alone smoking weed. I didn't make a move because I was trying to take it slow, but sure enough, she randomly drops a day later that she has a boyfriend. So many do this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:55 PM
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The point being women don't tell me no. They go along with everything until it's too late then I have to feel like the biggest fucking moron on the planet. You could say " be upfront with your intentions" but you can't do that, because if I'm too upfront about my intentions, they will always say they don't know what they want now or in the future. So basically stick around and I might give you a turn. And it's always because society is shit and women have to lie to men about everything to not ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:54 PM
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Suit yourself, I'm an easy target that you can kick over and over again guilt free while putting yourself up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:39 PM
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No I don't but who gives a fuck I'm open for jabs now so go ahead I'm right here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:35 PM
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You find this absolutely hilarious don't you? C'mon you've got to admit it's pretty funny seeing a shit male fail at life and get what he deserves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:34 PM
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No I don't speak to women thanks for the jab hope you feel really high about yourself. Make another jab at me come on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:30 PM
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I don’t really want to hurt the man’s feelings. Who the fuck CARES? People only care about men's feelings when they feel threatened. I hate being this fucking monster
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:29 PM
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One reason I don't ask out women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:27 PM
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Yes you will. She will be going on multiple dates with you if she likes I've had a lot of women "go out on dates" with me just to tell me at the very last second they already have a boyfriend. I even dated a girl once years ago, one of the first people I had sex with and she told me she only has sex with me out of fear of making me upset. I still don't know what I did to make her think that but everytime I think if that I want to vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:26 PM
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so a lot of women will do everything they can to not have to explicitly turn a man down. That's what I'm getting at. I'll never be able to tell if a women genuinely likes me because they have to fake a lot for a billion different reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:22 PM
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I can confidently say at least 5 times I've asked a girl out in a one on one setting alone and once I made any move or something they would let me know they have a boyfriend or are not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:20 PM
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Anyway, if she seems engaged, interested, happy, flirtatious, she’s enjoying herself. Not in my experience. Women have said a lot that they have to adapt to these survival behaviours to avoid being assaulted by men. I remember years ago, one of my first girlfriends, I asked more or less if she wanted to have sex, she said in a roundabout way if she says no I'll get upset. To this day I still don't know what I did in the past to make her think I'll get angry at her for not wanting sex at that mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:18 PM
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Not always in my experience. They'll often take them up on their date offer while completing failing to mention they have a boyfriend or aren't interested and won't tell them until the absolute last second. Why do women say they do this? Because they're terrified of being assaulted for saying no. No matter how sane the guy might be
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:14 PM
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I'll probably never self improve enough to the point if being a lovable human being. Just going to live my life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:06 PM
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She was having sex with her ex and she broke up with me because she couldnt get over him and wanted to be alone. Then she became fwb with him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 04:05 AM
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That guy who did the AMA is a scumbag. I can't believe victim blaming shit heads like him are the ones who get to have authority in these fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 01:11 AM
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I don't know. All I know is as long as Im flawed no woman will ever love me and I'll always be replaced with someone better so I just don't date
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:20 PM
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Men bad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:08 PM
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I think it just made me more black pilled and hopeless than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:02 PM
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95% stay together because of the reasons I stated. Maybe 5% of old long lasting couples max genuinely like each other. I don't call it love because romantic love does not exist. I'd argue some people just get too comfortable as well and think they can't do better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:12 AM
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Why do you think so many old couples swear that their husband/wife is more beautiful than the day they met? I mean obviously it’s not objectively true but that’s a person they’ve shared their life with, each part of their body is marked by their story together and what they’ve done and accomplished. That’s beautiful Most older couples only stay together because one cheats and/or they are threatened to burn in hell for eternity if they split up. That's not beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:52 AM
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how men feel It doesn't matter how men feel ...like...is it not a turn off if your woman can be distracted so easily? Women are going to let guys hit on them. They will always use the excuse that if they turn them down they will get raped right then and there. I get that maybe it is your ‘fault’ for not satisfying her... That's right. If a man can't satisfy his woman she's going to be looking elsewhere, and there's no one to blame but yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 03:07 AM
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It won't make me happy, it will make me miserable. But hopelessly chasing ghosts will make me even more miserable. Either way no one is going to touch me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:57 AM
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I'll just learn to live alone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:49 AM
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Idk there's too many shitty fucking cunts and anyone who I lean in will crumble to dust. You don't get a choice in much of anything when you're a low value male
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:27 AM
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And there doesn't exist a single person who would both want to date me AND want the same things in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:21 AM
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I don't want to be poly but I don't get a choice. I can share my partner or I can die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:14 AM
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Well, one things for sure I'll never meet a woman like you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:07 AM
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What's stopping you from trying? Monogamy is dying and everyone seems much happier
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:06 AM
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ALL people are shit. Every person is boring simple dog shit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:03 AM
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Maybe it doesn't feel like a choice to you because society has conditioned you to think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:03 AM
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Why not? You can tell him you're poly today and he'll still put up with it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:59 AM
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Well I've got to ask, why would you want to be monogamous? You can tell your bf today that you have decided that you are poly and chances are he won't break up with you no matter how much it bothers him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:57 AM
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Do you guys have an open relationship? That's one of the only ways I can imagine it working
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:50 AM
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Are you gunna make a joke about how I'm 30 and still feel like this? C'mon what jokes do you have lined up for me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:49 AM
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Im a man. I'm already 100% aware of what you're talking about. I'm fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:49 AM
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where neither of us would ever cheat Why? Don't you feel sexual urges for other men ? Don't you feel like you could upgrade at some point? We love each other. Extremely foreign concept to me We like spending time together. Do you do anything together other than have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:48 AM
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Real life already gave me this cynical view of dating. This is just how people are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:41 AM
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You're just here to poke at and provoke me and laugh at what a failure loser I am what else do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:39 AM
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Part of me wishes I could love but fuck it people are just such absolute and utter shit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:32 AM
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"lUL InCeL TEEHEE"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:31 AM
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No I'm not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:19 AM
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I like a little jealousy The hell is wrong with you? Men should never be jealous. Im guessing you had an abusive ex so your standards are rock bottom now or something? it shows he's invested. It shows that he's a little bitch that is weak and needs to cling onto you like a little toddler He just needs to manage it Let me guess, you've never met a guy who can manage it. Because men can't. If any man who isn't in the top 5% wants any relationship to last longer than a week he better fucking toughe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:56 AM
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I was with a girl who made me wait like 3 weeks. We had sex twice max, said she wasnt in the mood for a month after. Dumped me the same day she went on a date with another guy and fucked him right away. Fuck all of you. Cunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:35 AM
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No woman wants a jealous guy. They want a stone cold statue that will only warm up when they need assurance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:32 AM
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Well I mean, what do you care about gender stereotypes? You get to benefit from stereotypical men as you said earlier with your boyfriend protecting you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 11:06 PM
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You that is his job as the boyfriend to shield and protect and reassure you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 10:49 PM
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Doom scrolling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:45 PM
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Incoming unfunny zero iq jabs like "lulllll well it's ur SHITTY aTtITuDe Go LiFt"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:37 PM
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Apparently I'm different enough that no one wants me. I don't fit into any box. I know that makes you angry, but life cements that fact endlessly: people are basic and are essentially the exact same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:36 PM
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Whatever sad sack I end up with is still going to cheat on me and upgrade to someone better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:33 PM
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I said bi women dislike bi men and if you want a more proper equivalent women only care about their man being more masculine than them and be emotionally stunted enough to never open up but be their emotional support when needed and men only care about holes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:14 PM
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Best to live my life without people if I can help it. Fuck people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:12 PM
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I think I'm just as shit as everyone else. Doesn't change how simple people are
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:17 PM
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I shat on both men and women in the comment. Really weird that that's all you notice from it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:55 PM
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CMV: most women will never truely grasp or understand what genuinely being lonely and unwanted/disposable feels like
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:54 PM
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I've seen it a couple of times and the result is a group of feminists will come in and relentlessly bully the woman who called them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:53 PM
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I hate this sub because it just cements the fact that people are all one dimensional, simple creatures with zero self control. But that's just life. People are too simple, and that's one reason I'll never be able to date. I'm too "different". Add to that I'm bisexual. Even bi women hate that. Men are just pigs who only want sex. Just fuck the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:51 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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