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| 1 | Any good Pua methods for getting specific girls that you like.My main focus was on practical Pua. Such as how to text girls. While there is some info on this its all really corny bad and outdated. There have been many times when a girl put her entire name in my phone with hearts and didn't reply to me due to uncaliberated texting. I got a girls number today who was getting ice cream and my first text without introducing who I am said "so what kind of ice cream did you get". No reply | /r/seduction | 01/10/16 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Any good Pua methods for getting specific girls that you like.That's delusion. I am realistic in believing that I can beat most "elite" girls at basketball and arm wrestling but in terms of sexual market value (the amount of potential suitors) we are not in the same plane. You're using language very vaguely. Most attractive women are also more socially competent than men due to having jobs that forces socialization. This is a generalization but again language should be used specifically and not in a mystical voodoo way. No one is equal because very few peo… | /r/seduction | 30/09/16 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Any good Pua methods for getting specific girls that you like.You seem like a smart guy. Look at the bigger picture here. Evolution only occurs because some males in a species do not procreate. Therefore some men not getting girls is just a matter of fact. Males of many species have learned to "fake it till you make it" and in turn, to ensure evolution, honest signaling emerged. That is, a behavior that can be faked is regarded with little to no importance to a sexual selector. | /r/seduction | 30/09/16 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Any good Pua methods for getting specific girls that you like.also the skills analogy is a misnomer. A skill such as being funny or playing guitar are only attractive to the extent that they build social status. A funny homeless comedian or a struggling bob Dylan playing on the corner aren't getting tons of chicks. | /r/seduction | 30/09/16 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Any good Pua methods for getting specific girls that you like.Again, the only person this will help is the man who is afraid to approach. I've done in the ball ballpark of 20,000 approaches. The approach = the willingness to play the basketball game in this analogy. | /r/seduction | 30/09/16 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Any good Pua methods for getting specific girls that you like.That's called being delusional. If I believe that I'm going to beat lebron James 1om1 it's not going to help me win. It'll only help my willingness to play him. Furthermore if you look like someone who people expect to not be confident but are acting confident then people will respond to you wth disdain (cognitive dissonance). And yes people judge who should and shouldn't be acting confident. It's the same reason people judge obese people who wear revealing outfits. You're talking to a guy who S… | /r/seduction | 30/09/16 08:20 PM |
| 0 | Any good Pua methods for getting specific girls that you like.Having confidence and all that is great but it doesn't teach you how to get elite level girls. Why? Well if you walk into any gym you'll see that the standard male there is confident. Any bar is the same. Confidence is the standard. Most men will react to a person with cognitive dissonance if he acts non confident. Back to the original point. There arenspecific ways that you must text a girl to demonstrate honest signaling. What i mean is that there is a certain lingo that only the privileged po… | /r/seduction | 30/09/16 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Any time I show vulnerability to girls it ends terriblyYou can look at things in retrospect from a "did i end up developing a satisfactory relationship with that person" the way you're terming stuff allows you to make these feel-good mushy type of replies condescendingly insulting a guy for trying to get laid lol . Sex is only used as a barometer for success, very few guys are actually insincere walking sex objects who see everything in terms of that | /r/seduction | 25/11/15 01:37 AM |
| -2 | Any time I show vulnerability to girls it ends terriblyWhy is there not a single PUA who tells me that I need to be acting tough? I;ve been acting like Woody Allen this whole time foolishly | /r/seduction | 22/11/15 10:50 PM |
| -1 | Any time I show vulnerability to girls it ends terriblyFrom what i observe women are attracted to violence and guys who are able to protect them much more than they are to honesty self-expression You'd be better off acting like a quiet Vin Diesel than a thoughtful and emotionally connecting George Costanza | /r/seduction | 22/11/15 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Game vs looks.Please remember I have approached over 2,000 women in real life. This is a staggering number and its not an exaggeration. It is very very hard to do if one is not confident. How do I know? Because I still get approach anxiety and it takes a warm up to get into state, and once you are in state confidence becomes a non issue (at least for me) | /r/seduction | 22/11/15 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Game vs looks.I can only speculate on the mechanism. However I think you can become attracted to someone via a picture and then meet them and already have established attraction. I only mildly morphed the pictures. For instance we can develop crushes on women with their makeup on and see them without as a completely different person, but since we've come attracted to them prior, seeing them without makeup might not be as hindering if we had initially met them without makeup. | /r/seduction | 22/11/15 01:35 AM |
| 1 | I cannot find any characteristics that MOST women are attracted toIm not interested in epiphanies or feeling happy or good. Just mating. I want information on how to successfully reproduce and objective truths in regards to this realm of science. | /r/seduction | 11/11/15 01:00 AM |
| 1 | I cannot find any characteristics that MOST women are attracted toIn order to qualify something as "best" you have to have objective parameters. What im saying is that I know of no objective truths to how to act, therefore I do not know what the BEST version of ME is--personality wise | /r/seduction | 10/11/15 09:53 PM |
| 0 | I cannot find any characteristics that MOST women are attracted toSo I should be completely content with who I am? How does this confer any advantage to me? That is like saying that, if I were fat, I should learn to love my weight and not attempt to lose any. The goal of seddit is to try and give yourself at least a small advantage above other men (an advantage that comes at the price of reading and learning behavior and attraction) | /r/seduction | 10/11/15 03:14 PM |
| 2 | How is confidence defined?resilience | /r/seduction | 18/10/15 10:28 PM |
| 1 | How is confidence defined?yes | /r/seduction | 18/10/15 10:28 PM |
| 1 | How is confidence defined?I mean what is the defining third party feature of confidence.. How do you OBSERVE confidence and know that is not true. | /r/seduction | 18/10/15 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Honest signaling AKA Costly signaling - the reason behavior doesn't matter much to girlsLOL you really had to reach for that. A voice is extremely important also. How deep your voice sounds is part of looking good also The thing with confidence is that, like i have said, i have a 5'5 indian guy who I've gone out with. I've never seen his confidence get him a hot white girl. He has approached hundreds over and over. | /r/seduction | 08/10/15 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Honest signaling AKA Costly signaling - the reason behavior doesn't matter much to girlsOur mating strategy is different from a lion because our lives are not spent gathering food. The most analogous primate to us are tropical birds of paradise (they have unlimited food--even apes have to spend all day gathering and chewing) Tropical birds are the song and dance birds and they also grow extremely crazy plumage to get a mate. Does it not make sense that a female is going to judge you more on things that you cannot lie about and be skeptical of the things you can? | /r/seduction | 06/10/15 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Honest signaling AKA Costly signaling - the reason behavior doesn't matter much to girlspersonality and behavior become more important OVER TIME because it becomes harder to fake in this regard, but not for cold approach | /r/seduction | 05/10/15 05:17 PM |
| 1 | I have gone out with a short indian guy for 2 years now to white frat barsYes. but they say hes too short and not their type. | /r/seduction | 05/10/15 12:35 AM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorMen have a strangely harder time coping with the fact that looks matter than women do. You know a woman could say the same argument right? That you can find 10/10 guys married to ugly girls, and that looks don't matter for women? | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 09:04 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorYou just made the typical counter argument to the typical looks are the only thing that matters thread. Without specifically addressing any of the points I listed. This reply could just have easily been posted to another thread without having read the content | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 09:02 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorTelling me to "get my shit together". I don't know why there is such a strong association between men who are aware of the simple fact that looks matter and some form of psychopathy. I'm not even making this thread in a depressive state, its more like a "hello the world is round, PUA book author" thread. And it is possible to use plastic surgery to increase the quality of your life, if done in an intelligent way. | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 04:55 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorNo obviously not. They have different sex organs so even the arousal process is much different. We know for a fact that female tropical birds of paradise do only care about a male's plumage(looks). Why is irrational to think that the same sex of a more highly evolved species could too? Google honest signaling for a good read. http://tvdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/michael-cera-3.jpg Do you think this guy could fuck dozens of large breasted strippers if he simply acted masculine? There is … | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 04:25 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorThe issue I have here is that men are still frantically trying to hide from the concept that looks matter for us. Are there female message boards where chubby girls go to post where girls chime in saying "guys dont care about your looks, just act feminine" "just have fun and men will like you for being chubby" I don't know, maybe there is. But it seems like females do a much better job accepting the harsh truth of looks mattering than we men do | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 04:17 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorWhat I am telling you is that I have been the life of the party for the past 4 years. I have been gaming for 4 years every single day and every single weekend. I'm in the middle of the action dude. Im not a guy on his keyboard telling you the way the world is. I have GONE OUT WITH RSD INSTRUCTORS. I have another guy telling me "i've had every girl i've ever wanted" don't you think that is a disingenuous statement? | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 04:15 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorI have 790 phone numbers dude. I have gamed with professional RSD instructors. Telling me that im messing up because of my mental state is inaccurate. I have gone out for 4 years with dozens of wingmen, some ugly some short some ugly short and confident ect ect ect I have seen the truths that play out and I have no motive to sell a product or otherwise lie to guys. I make these threads not out of depression, I'll go out again today and repeat the process.. But because I start to read a book and … | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:45 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorI can say with certainty that you are above 5'10 and you have at least a normal to strong jawline. I am not trolling with this reply it's just that, if your statements are authentic, then it would require those 2 things to be true. | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:39 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorDo you see the replies? All the guys state that it's depressing ect ect If this was done for a women, women would say "no shit sherlock" "duh that girls hot" it would not be depressing or surprising. So my main question here was, why is it more ground breaking and depressing for men to come to the realization that their looks matter? should it not be common sense? | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:29 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorI have checked that out, and i've gone out to bars with RSD instructors before. Like I said, for some odd reason men cannot accept the reality of appearances. Women can. We can admit it matters for women and they can admit it too but for men we have this odd desire to rationalize or delude ourselves | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:25 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorAnother point that i made was that most guys do have their head straight. We define mental health as something that is in line with the majority of a population, and poor mental health as something that deviates from that. And no there are many face changing cosmetic surgeries and body modifications one can do in 2015. The notion that "you cannot change your looks so you must focus elsewhere" is completely in accurate. | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:24 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorJust remember a girls degree of picky is directly proportional to the amount of male options she has. You are ALWAYS compared to the other guys she can get. And there is a competition, its the natural result of options. If I gave you the option of picking 5 equally tasting dishes and you had to pick only one, you would create a stupid arbitrary reason for why you picked one of them "i like the color of the food" or "it reminds me of something" | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:17 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorThis is a reasonably good reply. You have to remember that the "arbitrary standards" are a natural result of having a variety of options. There are plenty of guys in the world who have game, confidence and everything else. A hot girl will have SEVERAL options between guys with GAME. Because she simply cannot sleep with them all she must either adopt or invent new criteria for deciding which guys she will be with. It's similar to how tropical birds of paradise select their partners. | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:12 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorine charming 30 year olds because age in comparison to the woman's one of the elements of your value. Things like looks do increase your value (which is why going to the gym and getting well fitting clothes is always good advise for people) but behavior is what can get your value to go up or go down. Which is why behavior is pushed as more important. Take a masculine charming guy and one night put him in clothes that don't fit well, generally just don't look good. Then the next night put him in … | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:06 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorIn the thread I was actually questioning why men are even more delusional than women when it comes to the importance of looks. We constantly tell ourselves A)it doesnt matter or B) just tell yourself you look like brad pitts cousin. Both are delusional thought processes. Women on the other hand, for all their faults, rightly accept not only the premise that their looks matter they also usually have a reasonable concept of where they fit in the looks spectrum | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:01 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorI never said I was ugly. Re-read the thread | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:00 PM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behavioractually you can wear boots with shoe inserts to make yourself 3-4 inches taller. I actually do it routinely and have to weigh its options before I leave, as it hurts my walk and knees slightly The reason most guys in any given bar have social skills is because bars already filter out the unconfident guys. Those guys aren't going out on a friday/saturday to mingle. If I had said any given college campus then yeah, there are tons of guys who lack confidence there. But those same guys aren't hitti… | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 02:00 PM |
| 3 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorI have had a few very hot college age female friends. And I will question them on why they are with certain guys or why they left certain guys. Things like Penis size, hairloss, too short ect come up. Now when I interview less attractive girls, they will sometimes highlight personality issues, certainly. I think the issue is that there are actually plenty of men in the world who are both confident and charming, and for a hot girl, she has a pretty large pool of men with these qualities to choose… | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 04:32 AM |
| 0 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorI guess I am highlighting the book by W Anton where he basically says that grooming isn't even important. Height isn't important. ect ect. I think it's common sense to act normal and avoid stuttering. And in any given bar you will find the majority of the men in it who have sufficient social skills, who are loud masculine and engaging with their eye contact. Usually any guy who stutters or avoids eye-contact has a reason behind it. Like severe facial scar or some other deformity that contributed… | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 04:22 AM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorI have approached thousands of women. I have 790 female phone numbers in my phone. I have been gaming for 4 years. A lot of people watching also | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 04:15 AM |
| 1 | The concept that women care mostly about behaviorAlso for those who are ambitious, make a male model tinder experiment. And tell girls you're depressed or another of the traits that W Anton claims are the worst thing a man can do. I think you will find that the girls are more than willing to look past poor behavioral indicators if a guy looks like a male model. I think a lot of these books are getting good reviews by unattractive men who want to believe rather than people seeking the true nature of reality. | /r/seduction | 28/09/15 03:04 AM |
| 1 | The idea of "showing confidence" in a bar setting is retarded heres whyI strongly disagree. As most communication is non verbal watching a video of me interacting with women is far more telling than a report, which i can easily forget details | /r/seduction | 17/09/15 01:57 PM |
| 1 | The idea of "showing confidence" in a bar setting is retarded heres whyI am looking at a logical transgression. Is it attractive for men to be blindly delusional? I have many friends who, when presented with a flaw in their behavioral patterns, will contend "i am the shit" and ignore the criticism. That seems like an annoying personality trait to me. | /r/seduction | 17/09/15 01:56 PM |
| 0 | The idea of "showing confidence" in a bar setting is retarded heres whyI have entire nights and days on video. DO you have skype? | /r/seduction | 17/09/15 05:28 AM |
| 0 | The idea of "showing confidence" in a bar setting is retarded heres whyAttraction really is how deep your voice is and how masculine of an image you project. On top of that it's a combo of social status and social knowledge. Basically doing "cool people shit" like smoking weed, owning Boa snakes, having tattoos and being dumb in general | /r/seduction | 17/09/15 04:47 AM |
| -1 | The idea of "showing confidence" in a bar setting is retarded heres whyProbably im average looking with a below average masculinity face. Every guy who I have seen(with girls) who looked like me was either A)drug dealer B) extremely violent and dumb acting. I act like a philosopher a lot and probably turns turns off combined with my lack of sex appeal. | /r/seduction | 17/09/15 04:45 AM |
| -1 | The idea of "showing confidence" in a bar setting is retarded heres whyThere is something called honest signaling. Basically we demonstrate confidence with body language and things that you cannot lie about. Guys in bars demonstrate this very well. | /r/seduction | 17/09/15 04:18 AM |
| 0 | The idea of "showing confidence" in a bar setting is retarded heres whyProbably relating well to girls. Almost acting beta.. But yeah I dont think bars are good at all, especially since there is no dancing. I do think acting alpha in a grocery store is much more conducive because in any given grocery store I might be the ONLY young guy with decent posture | /r/seduction | 17/09/15 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Any good books/writings on the darker aspect of attraction and pua?Yes, Mystery explained this in good detail why it is necessary. Sure it is not a "feel good" strategy. Science has conducted several studies on the fact that women find evil men more attractive, and dark triad type of manipulative men nearly always have more sexual partners. | /r/seduction | 03/09/15 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Any good books/writings on the darker aspect of attraction and pua?What I am talking about is creating attraction with a woman who has more sexual market value than yourself. | /r/seduction | 03/09/15 03:07 AM |
| 0 | Any good books/writings on the darker aspect of attraction and pua?I have been approaching for 4 years as a full time job. I've gathered over 900 numbers in that span. I would say that my opinions are as well-based as nearly anyone, even pro PUA coaches. | /r/seduction | 03/09/15 03:07 AM |
| 0 | Any good books/writings on the darker aspect of attraction and pua?There are good scientific studies on women being attracted to evil men, and evil mens genes propagating Do you want links? | /r/seduction | 03/09/15 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Any good books/writings on the darker aspect of attraction and pua?That is simply not true. Female to male attraction is a matter of testosterone (females will almost never be attracted to eunuchs-- no matter the eunuchs level of confidence and experience) Now there are ways to demonstrate high Testosterone levels through dangerous activities and violent aggressive type of behavior. I've seen it time and time again. Guys who generally date up strike fear in other men. Not respect. It's because, once again, females are attracted to the male hormone- testosterone… | /r/seduction | 02/09/15 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Gaming for 4 years still a virginNo im fairly picky. I'm probably looking for girls above me in looks and hoping game will help me get there | /r/seduction | 23/08/15 12:13 AM |
| -2 | Gaming for 4 years still a virginbars suck. phone numbers are meaningless I've found the only time a phone number is solid is if you call it and are able to keep them on the phone. (the phone is probably the ultimate arena to "game" since it really isolates distractions and variables and allows you to DHV straight into the girls ear) --- the phone also, to a large degree, removes the variable of how you look.. So phone = pure game. Not sure why so many game theorists don't advocate it more Maybe a very low quality girl (one who… | /r/seduction | 22/08/15 03:30 PM |
| -1 | Gaming for 4 years still a virginI have opened thousands of sets. I have gone to bars every weekend for the past 4 years (maybe 5-10 weeks off i nthat time span.) Day game for hours and hours. | /r/seduction | 22/08/15 03:20 PM |
| 0 | Gaming for 4 years still a virginI've read models twice. and pretty much all the recommended material many times over. I'm considered --- by all my pua buddies to be a complete immersive junkie in game and game theory. Still a virgin. Yes I'm not willing to hook up with fatties (because i am big into dieting and exercise) | /r/seduction | 22/08/15 03:19 PM |
| 1 | 610 cold approaches. Part 2 : What I’ve learnedI agree with the demographics comment That just highlights how important looks are. You can't pick up a girl who isn't your same niche / style no matter how strong your game. | /r/seduction | 22/08/15 12:41 AM |
| 1 | 610 cold approaches. Part 2 : What I’ve learnedWhere I live it's mostly how you look and how tall you are. I've gone out nights with rsd instructors and many many different wing man of shapes and sizes. I've tried about every Pua method there is. I am still A virgin. I have gained extreme social confidence and freedom but that's basically it. | /r/seduction | 22/08/15 12:36 AM |
| 1 | 610 cold approaches. Part 1 : A life Changing JourneyI'd be interested to seeing how you look. I have approached for 4 years and have roughly 800 numbers and I am still a virgin. If you are getting that many tinder dates you must be good looking | /r/seduction | 22/08/15 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Here is what PUA isI don't understand. I love hot girls. I;m not one of those guys whos angry at hot girls for not liking me. I don't understand what the premise of this was. I'm asking why you continue to be delusional about looks theory and the social hierarchy of dating. My old fat dad stil lcontends he can pull hot college girls also. It's this man ego pride thing that gets in the way of reason. | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Here is what PUA isI don't understand. I'm not necessarily saying it's a bad thing. The ability to be able to approach girls is powerful and gives an awesome rush of dopamine, but once you start to see the social matrix it changes a little and you realize the truth, the things that the Pick up instructors (who are in the business of making money) didn't tell you. | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 04:04 PM |
| 1 | How do you "anyone can get laid with the right mindset" theorists account for the argument of natural selection?Good reply and interesting info. What version/brand of PUA do you follow ? Can you give me stuff I can implement ? | /r/seduction | 18/07/15 07:38 AM |
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