drivebywhatever Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Denial - does Jezebel even care about the truth? Or is it just another SRS? Basically, what if instead of plugging the holes, you're fixing the holes in your end of the boat by pulling planks off my end? I agree this is the case on some issues. The rape issue, the custody issue, these are things where both camps believe that the system is rigged against them so both camps want opposing things. It's like feminists are saying "The bath is too hot, we need to add more cold water!" and MRA's are saying "The bath is too cold, we need to add more hot water!" However, like 75%…	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 10:33 AM
0	Denial - does Jezebel even care about the truth? Or is it just another SRS? "patriarchy hurts men too" should always be read with the caveat "...(but not as much as it hurts women)" Yes, that's true and I'm afraid that is one of those irreconcilable differences. I just want to kill the misconception that feminists don't think men suffer in our society. Because feminists absolutely believe our society hurts men and there is a lot of feminist work examining that. And we can really work together on a lot of this. You think chivalry/benevolent sexism is bad. We think chival…	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 09:52 AM
10	Had to share this. He Can Do It. (x-post from /r/feminism) That is beautiful.	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 09:40 AM
1	Denial - does Jezebel even care about the truth? Or is it just another SRS? Awesome! We're on exactly the same page then and that makes me happy. The thing is, I've seen a lot of men identifying themselves as MRA's express the idea that gender roles are important, and state that working against gender roles is itself misandry. So that was the impression I had of MRA. Yeah, we definitely have a lot of common ground.	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 09:30 AM
1	Denial - does Jezebel even care about the truth? Or is it just another SRS? Thank you for doing this with me! I want so much to declare a ceasefire between our two camps and examine our common ground. I'm so glad we can have this discussion. Actually, "Patriarchy hurts men too" is what I would consider the defining difference between the two. Rephrasing it, it is saying "A system that overall privileges men over women is also the cause of men's issues". I keep seeing that expressed here and I argue that it's a misconception of the term. The idea is that men are in a dom…	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 09:19 AM
-1	Denial - does Jezebel even care about the truth? Or is it just another SRS? It's not an alt, I just don't post on Reddit. Though I would probably post with an alt anyway because I'm a pansy and get nervous about political conflicts following me around. Hmm, I'm not sure I get your explanation. Are you saying that your issue with the Manterest article is that it portrays Manterest as something MRA's would advocate, when it actually isn't?	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 09:02 AM
0	Denial - does Jezebel even care about the truth? Or is it just another SRS? Yeah, I've been reading the links in the sidebars. I'm seriously trying to understand your guys' points of view. Trying to quell my defensive feminist anger and seriously listen. The thing is, I can see that we definitely disagree on some issues, but like 75% of what you guys say is the exact same stuff that feminists say. What's frustrating me is that a lot of the stuff I'm reading here looks like: "Hey, here's something that debunks feminism. [Insert something that is the exact same thing femi…	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 08:50 AM
1	Denial - does Jezebel even care about the truth? Or is it just another SRS? Do feminists who constantly talk about getting more female CEOs and STEM majors really think that any of that is possible if men are not supported in every possible way to be fathers and carers No. They don't. That's one of the major feminist issues, that it's messing up both men and women when we live in a world where it's considered "unmanly" and therefore bad for a man to do child care, homemaking, and other stuff traditionally considered "women's work." I don't want to be disruptive or anyth…	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 08:27 AM
-4	Denial - does Jezebel even care about the truth? Or is it just another SRS? In what way did Jezebel not tell the truth here? The only thing they claimed was fact was that Manterest exists, which it does. Everything else in the article was opinion and satire, so I don't understand why you would say they weren't telling the truth.	/r/MensRights	26/03/13 07:58 AM