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Debateduhthrowawey/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:55 PM
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Survivorship bias. You already got your time in the sun many men won't as standards for looks for men only raise. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:32 PM
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If I can tweak for a split second. Desired men are chads. The black pill has tiers. Chad-lite is still a chad. The tier below that is HTN meaning above average. What I consider a woman being attracted to a man is via how she treats him/what hoops he has to hop through compared to her ideal man looksise and how eager she is to have an intimate sex life with said man anyone else she ends up with is an oofy doofy. This even extends to after the relationship like if she hits him up feeling nostalgic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:27 PM
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Wrong advice. Women prefer a lean build. Lean not skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:20 PM
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It is. Someone in your life be it the church or parents literally warn you against it you can also learn from other womens failures. Before you start strawmanning I am literally an atheist but I can gleam beneficial knowledge from someone I disagree with either directly or in passing. Women are just bored easily and just want to wrangle down a handsome dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:19 PM
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Most men just fear ending up oofy doofy. We know women get bored or close up intimacy due to horror stories even to men who show that effort. Many husbands/dads are the butt of depreciating jokes. More so than wifes/mothers are. Power dynamics change once a ring is involved as well. Relationships with women can only go up majorily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:15 PM
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This is gonna be my craziest comment yet but...with how abusive couples stick together and all be it torture themselves there may be some truth to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:10 PM
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You take me proving my point as advocating for women to do that. No i just want honesty where no woman can front that they chose for any virtuous reason and that looks are the first key to dating therefore the most important thing. I pray that you don't turn around and tell me "looks arent that important" just to refute that when every woman gives the same excuse trying to keep that lie going. When thier actions don't reflect that in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:07 PM
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Then shut up and take the consequences of that. Most of the time women complain be it online or friends they want thier cake and to eat it too. Obviously the fun is more important than the possible consequences so just make your bed and lay in it and there'd be no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:31 PM
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So an unfixable issue? A guys face is more fixable than height wadda hell?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:29 PM
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Well i'm about to turn 25, been taking care of my grandmother and mom who are special needs since I was 17 just for the record as I explain this. I was an amatuer fighter before I spinal injury had me in inpatient care at various hospitals for a year after my ex fiancee left me. We were together just under 6 years. Everything fell down at once both mom and grandmother couldnt take care of themselves so now I work a normal job as a general manager. Alot of younger dudes glaze me for no reason bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:28 PM
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I consider myself a decent partner. The only trade off is I can't fix my ugly face. I have decent clear advice emotional financial or with the self. I don't go around telling people any of this or any of the fun stuff I used to do because they rarely prompt me unless we're close. I can comfort someone like you wouldnt believe. Financially I've been taking care of my mother and grandmother since age 17. Gradually making more money. Recently i'm not as fun though I can make anyone laugh and I love…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:19 PM
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Most women ages 19-26 are not with ugly men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:09 PM
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Some try and still get rejected. I don't know about ugly but definitely obese I'm talking 300 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:05 PM
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Higher likelyhood due to options. If your partner isnt grateful they will take you for granted more times than not. I have also always been a busy body and great personality wise. I have no problem making good friends with women but not a single one of them usually carry conversations with everyone trying to get everyone involved. Its more so that I am a muscular ogre and if I were skinmy I'd be a skinny ogre. I have one of those faces. I'll elaborate more on what my life looks like after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:16 PM
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They lie because they have 0 reason to not be insecure because the climate indicates women want handsome men ONLY and treat handsome men better than even those they actually end up with. The proof is literally in the pudding he wouldnt be falling overhimself if experiences and women were not scarce due to his looks. You're really going to ait there and say 95% of women pick for virtuous reasons only and reality reflects that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:09 PM
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Because they havent been given a chance most likely. An example no man is going to admit to being a virgin when they are a virgjn because jt gets you dismissed. You'd have less liars if women were not chadstruck so to speak. Lie or have 0 romantic connection with any woman for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:07 PM
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Parents advise you as does society give numerous lessons about trying to look deeper than deep, older women do too young women vehemently ignore it in order to be satisfied /have fun at whatever costs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:05 PM
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You'd at least have a varied sample size and take a chance on someone who may turn out greatful rather than someone who likely isnt. This is a generational disconnect women my age do not give ugly dudes a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:03 PM
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Here comes the generational disconnect. Women of my generation do not give chances to ugly men. They'd rsther gun for and have chad to complain about than give an ugly dude a chance. If you have then you arent part of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:02 PM
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Not really. Be handsome be fun and its smooth sailing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:44 PM
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Those are the men you give a chance to not the dude who doesnt approach women like that. Before you argue options should be obvious too many women flirt with extremely handsome men or send signas unprompted...because he's extremely handsome. Theres no real excuse outside of differing attraction levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:43 PM
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Listen to people before you do the behavior. Women have no doubt heard the same rhetoric about what a "good man is" but they don't listen. Getting used/having fun is far more important because they think other girls are having fun. Damn anyone who suggests they miss out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:41 PM
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Its only creepy and unwanted if you're not top tier in looks. She may still reject you to say she can reject those types of men still.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 07:42 PM
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An example that alot of women can learn is to learn when they're putting virtues on an attractice man that doesn't exist or when "the bare minimum" is intensified by thier attraction to him. All of my woman friends without fail will describe the exact same or lesser actions in effort from an attractive man while a man they previously rejected or have as friends did more or the same. As just an anecdotal example "He's so kind he gave a homeless man money" whilst i literally volunteer in a shelter…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:23 PM
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You cannot fall for something you don't benefit from. Liars are sales people selling you a dream of your own making. It is always exactly what you want to hear from who you want to hear it from. Tweak the dream and temper. Its very similar to how people subconsciously show thier partner(train them) how they want to be loved. Try your best to not fill in the gaps for these men. Many women don't catch themselves before they start placing virtues on men they like that aren't there and in a way down…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:13 PM
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You can't fully discern someone being a liar but being aware of YOURSELF can take away thier boon from them lying, they usually expose themselves in some way. Its a general rule of life that if it looks too good to be true then it is. The best you could do is treat all men the same. That is the solution but its not realistic. It gets easier if women are able to admit some general truths to actually know themselves and stop caving to saving face. Like how women are just as visual as men. Men fall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:03 PM
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You'd have to want something from them for it to work. Cautiousness is tempering that want. Pragmatically speaking post nut clarity and regulating your emotions. I don't think women have any incentive to do this. Its easier to just blame the "villain" the possibility of this good lokking dude being morally reprehensible most definitely should've crossed and stayed in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:56 PM
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Because they can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:43 PM
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Types are bullshit for example. Also you are literally pinkpiled what do you mean give me an example? You are the living example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:42 PM
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Damn i'm attracted to him. Better give him a clam slam cuz he so far hasn't overreacted to my emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:41 PM
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Oh brother here we go. Sure. Is a dude faking what he's saying to you rape? Why didnt you believe an uglier dude? I guess the more attractive one was just...more convincing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:20 PM
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I thought attractiveness was subjective? Yes i think you should break more hearts so people actually know what actually matters. If what you claim matters in attraction mattered you'd actually already be trying that..unless the darkpill is right and attraction is solely looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:18 PM
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I knew you were going to immediately take it there. No dating is a conscious choice while rape isnt, you just mostly suck at navigating your life. Virtue signaling classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:14 PM
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Agreed however that is not nessecarily reality just peoples selfish wants. Like simply because that person is ugly does not mean the person rejecting is any better in reality. Its time society plasters this fact up front so people can be more realistic about the outcomes of thier lives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:13 PM
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If you were cautious it wouldnt happen. This is just another case of women making exceptions for attractive men. You can only be a victim but so much...hence the term "fool" Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:04 PM
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Those women are there to meet rare handsome men who show up or enjoy themselves seperately from dating and romance. Most of my hobbies are better online regardless. I take care of my special needs elderly mother as well. I wash her, cook for her daily due to the fact my grandmother is also no longer at capacity to take care of herself so I pay for a nice nursing home for her. You're ignorant. To actual problems. I'm not saying anything women do is malicious but I am saying it happens and they ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:30 PM
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Im not insulting you like most bpers do. I am explaining the disconnect of your advice to average to below average men. Its like how when women complain largely onlinethey're telling men with options "pick me and be nice to ME"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:53 PM
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Bluepill success stories are from old people or chad it is not applicable in todays age. I do agree mainstream Redpill success stories are too wide of a margine to actually be success like I personally want a loving relationship not constantly sleeping around with random women. They delude themselves into trying for women thinking they can become chad but that is the exact opposite of what chad does...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:53 AM
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I would rather be dead. I do have friends that I go out with usually frequenting nerd bars, but i don't drink. I also work and workout more than I go out. Previously had a 6 year relationship. You playcate yourself with stereotypes and when it shatters you're at a loss for words. Nothing could possibly be womens fault. I don't consume manosphere stuff never have, I've been blackpilled since 12. My only issue is people lying about imporability and reasons behind why others get dates whilst others…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:47 AM
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Even when I get sex or had sex, I needed more. I was in a 6 year relationship prior always wanted more regardless of how good it felt. We would roleplay and she'd be in charge of my pleasure for the most part. Constant sexting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:20 AM
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You should try it out more often. You may prove yourself wrong in certain beliefs of your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:40 PM
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Its fine to be "shallow" or simply follow attraction. Good women have shallow thoughts from time to time but too many women sweep it under the rug and refuse to admit average to below average men don't even register as a dating option. Especially when most complaints are about treatment. If i have to point a man out to you he isnt on your radar. Most women who go out literally pass by hundreds of men most likely and 90% of them do not register as a potential date or someone they'd text romantica…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:39 PM
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If I can be vulgar. There are kinky ways to go about handling a higher libido partner if they're into it. I say this as a man with crazy high libido. 2-3x a day isnt enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:30 PM
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That'd actually be most women you've had experience with. I'm not roasting you but unless exceptionally handsome its statistically unlikely. Many women search for virtue within themselves to date someone they feel a medium flame with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:59 PM
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It is until people shit on you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:29 PM
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They're ugly and young. They arent getting invited to places I promise you that. Options are about how frequently you go out and how many (especially women) choose to interact with you and make you apart of thier circle. All of that to MAYBE get considered a romantic option especially since most activities young women look to do are not going to showcase good character traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:37 PM
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When you hear about how it didnt work most of the time you hear it in a different form. You just don't realize it. Delusional to think glowup success stories are the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:34 PM
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Can be. But we don't talk about why CAN is in the conversation in the first place. What is the difference in a guy with your exact social and physical mindset but uglier? He didnt try hard enough I'm guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:32 PM
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You'd have to have options to avoid commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:30 PM
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You get to watch a bunch of other select dudes get picked romantically day in day out no matter where you go. Thats the existence for the bottom percent of men in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:28 PM
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It wasn't based on looks. I was a rebound and because i'm actually emotionally intelligent I helped her manage her feelings and sort them out. As evidenced by my more handsome coworkers women my age do not wish to talk to me regardless of how much I make them laugh or make them feel included in conversation. You are wrong in your assumption. I have simply reached the stage of giving up. Dejected by the effort my competition gets vs me. I actively am friends with my attractive co worker aware of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:44 PM
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You think couples go to the park. You are definitely older than 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:28 PM
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I am not talking about height. I am talking about your unchangable face. So long as you are not on the extreme spectrum of undesirable height you can get women. I already have female friends more than male friends. They come to me for pragmatic advice and to vent. Bonds and personality mean nothing. Face is an unovercomable obstacle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:25 PM
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Not together anymore. She left when I got injured and life started hitting but before that inseperable. You're reducing my relationship to try and prove your point obviously not but her ex got more chances than I ever did because he is better looking and this is a constant fact in the lives of my female friends. I get a single message of " Oh i can't get you out of my head" while I helped her sort out her feelings for him throughout the entire relationship. By all means how old are these "young"…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:23 PM
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How old are you? You are no doubt above 26. Dating has changed. I can go outside and see couples in my age bracket not a single girl is with an ugly man or if they are they break out with a grudge about wasting time on an ugly dude. Even if said dude is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:06 PM
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Yes. 6 year relationship. I'm saying looks are the ONLY thing that matter. How young are these friends? Still older than my age bracket? A fact is a fact because its appicable and more often than not can be used to advise life. Thats how people accepting fact makes it a worldwide fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:04 PM
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And yet atrractive men don't struggle despite that if things were really about character ugly men wouldn't have as much of an issue. I am freshly 25 if you're older then you have no actual advice to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:02 PM
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Not really ESPECIALLY when I look at people of my actual age. If they're ugly they are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:00 PM
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Not really. Men do not have that option unless extremely attractive. You take what seems to want you or end up alone. Women do not approach normally even less so for average to beloe average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:48 PM
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25 this advice is not applicable to current day. You would end up in the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:46 PM
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They only gamble with genetically attractive men. Thats not really a gamble all things considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:44 PM
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Genuine desire involves genetics and even if most men were at thier peak only a small portion of the male population would still have it. Instead of 10-20% about 30-35% would have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:43 PM
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How old are you exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:41 PM
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I see more men admit to generalizations than women. Men literally grow up with the generalization about them that they're sex starved. Any generalization about women is dismissed by women society and even a number of men unless it is positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:05 PM
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In other words money isnt a solution either. I think its time men admit there is no way out or solution to being wanted not tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:00 PM
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I appreciate you for that fact. There is alot of push back against women on this sub due to the fact its not common place to talk about women the same way women talk about men. There isnt muxh reason to expect most women you encounter to be different as fomo is too present in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:55 PM
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Men have a much wider margin for doing that since more women are desired than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:24 PM
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Try to have a debate without saying "oh but i don't do that". Most men can point out high end and middle end men who are still sleeping around whilst already having children/a known high n count and are highly lusted after. You are NOT the majority hence its ok to say most women want a man preselected/with experience to put it lighty. The women he slept with just have to not be women they actively look down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:21 PM
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No actually it helps me roleplay with kinky women I encounter and helps me get creative in how to please them on more than a physical level. Unless a woman is fucking me 3x a day every day I'd still feel rhe urge to beat to something from what I go through daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:13 PM
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The better way to put it is superior doesn't stop growing once a woman has that hunger in her. They are looking for the total package that doesn't exist at that point. If you are handsome, rich and successful then it becomes about how much free time you have and if life isnt too predictable if she wants you and not simply what you bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:15 PM
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Most don't its just concepts and you're hiding behind your outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:12 PM
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As with most things they will eventually find the meaning to it. Especially with internet algorithims
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:09 PM
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So long as they use the lingo those that introspect will eventually learn what that lingo means. Usually very quick in the internet age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:07 PM
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Not really. I can be humble and still acknowledge positive facts about myself, i'm not some unself aware delusional redpiller trying to make sense of why I got filtered out by reality. Alot of female friends come to me for advice and deeper conversation they always end up laughing in. Chad can never be not handsome and extremely seldom bald. I carry more weight on my legs in a day than you do during one of your leg day. Also find me a plethora of women glazing a dudes legs who isnt already hands…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:59 AM
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That relationship is ultimately lesser for most men because he doesnt have your actual desire. That is the entire issue. Any relationship minded man or woman learning they don't have the desire of thier person would shatter them. Clearly what he offered you wasn't enough as you aren't with him. Is he still in contact with you? Are more attractive men from your past still in contact with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:46 AM
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No they're happy about it because theres less to push out of the way for chad. Most men are not going thier own way. They're getting SENT thier own way because they're not genetically attractive. Its a hard knock life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:38 AM
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Lastly your wold view is limited because chad doesnt just GET women he gets certain looks from most women that you won't even see from your wife and top of the line treatment but you can't wrap your head around it because delusion keeps you "strong"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:35 AM
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I am 6ft 246lbs 28% bf down from 310 60% bf. I promise you you would not make it through my workout. Chad is about your face and hair not strictly physique. You refuse to acknowledge dudes can hit the gym and still be ugly. My personality is no issue no matter how much my musculature is greater than dudes around me women do not view me as a romantic option like they do handsome coworkers, same coworkers who literally glaze me for being huge ask for advice and challenge themselves based on MY wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:34 AM
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My sarcasm wasnt an insult yet here you are devolving. Anything to just keep acknowledging and glazing attractive people. You can't help yourself when it comes to them. But with your husband i'm sure you have alot of self control and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:28 AM
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If a handsome man is neurodivergent his behaviors get viewed differently and are arguably more acceptable and he is already more successful than an ugly man at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:20 AM
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This is only true if you havent realized how much of society values sex./being an object of desire. Meaning it isnt true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:18 AM
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Alot of these problems are related to looks/lookism. You're putting the cart before the horse. If you're ugly growing up people will hound you and if your glow up isnt absolitely ridiculous which is capped at your facial genetics for the most part; you will have no reason to have self esteem, socialize, have friends and community that also arent considered losers because they don't have women. If you don't look like you can get women women will not respect you at the bare minimum as a romantic o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:16 AM
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Women promote lookism more than anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:10 AM
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Not really as its mostly still women who deny how crazy important it is. Not just in getting your foot in the door but it also helps determine treatment within the relationship and how the break up goes alongside how memeroable you are to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:05 AM
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This man has fully accepted the cope that "life begins at 30 for men" or "men peak at 60" cope that the redpill spews to reframe thier prerejection from women. Chad was living life the second he touched highschool because his face did the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:03 AM
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Being single for most women does not mean 0 sexual release or validation/attention from women. It does mean that for men who are not chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:48 AM
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Not really getting a relationship isnt synonymous with being treated well especially for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:43 AM
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Is this not redundant? Incels don't even have women to beat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:27 AM
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Oofy doofy theory their women certainly arent happy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:16 AM
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Right so perhaps you should get over the DESPERATE NEED to acknowledge them? No? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:54 PM
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Did you comment about them to him? Are you ok with the inverse? What if they were straight? How old are you? This sounds humiliating. "Honey omg look, men finally, i'd definitely let them clamma slam me"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:47 AM
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Most men especially average men have no concept that women are chasing chad, they just know they're not the best looking dude in the room they still think they can gain her investment and attention through game and other concepts but they still try until loneliness shatters them. These women aren't aware they're doing it until someone points it out to them. For the most part they're just happy to have thier peak emotions, day dream about beautiful babies due to his genes or having a handsome man…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:58 PM
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I'd argue the quarter back physique is extremely close to a military physique. I'm not saying attractive football players struggle. Attractive people don't but if you take an average football player and put him against an average basketball player in terms of women build wise the basketball player has it every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:48 PM
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Society,music, other women trying to raise the others standards but its usually only ever AFTER getting disappointed by an above average man. Its also just an excuse to want what they want sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:46 PM
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Just Dating isnt nessecarily successful. Also I don't or if I do when i really get to know these women they're half way out the door talking to someone else 7/10. To me success with women is attracting them by barely trying. Or keeping one/keeping her extremely happy with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:43 PM
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I want to circle back to this actually. Military build is perfectly fine for attracting women. Nba players are more attractive to women than football players and the football players than end up popular with women are usually more lithe. The most important part is by far the face though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:27 PM
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Dudes lust after most women that move and vaguely take care of themselves what are we talking about here? Or do you not believe most men are sex crazed dogs? Which is it? And yes men can lust and love at the same exact time in equal measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:22 PM
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Men do not want strictly stacy like many women strictly want chad. Wanting attractive people isnt a bad thing nor shallow this issue is making it something its not or pretending thats not what they pick for. When women give advice to men it is never "look better" they only say that to other women when they want to be cruel. Its always a challenge of character while most likely those men watch literal scumbags have constant female attention Even if you acknowledge it most women do not unless they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:20 PM
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Mens variety when it comes to sexual attraction. People dumb down sex too much for the sake of argument but for example. Weight on women is far more acceptable than weight on men for being regarded as fuckable and datable. Theres an entire movement for cougars on social media to date much younger prettier men. There is no inverse for men using strictly looks. A good face and frame (mostly face) for men is NEEDED to be either of those things, don't have it? Won't be successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:48 PM
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You just don't listen. A vast majority of women want chad to the point they will be far more bold and get out of character for him. And just because men narrow down the few women that won't theres no guarantee or way to guarantee those women want those men back. You're immediately going to go into "just don't be terrible" but even if those men arent it still comes down to attraction and her mood on the specific day you approached her if you even find these women. There is no solution for average…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:36 PM
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Sure. Unless you are born as chad all men compromise it comes with being a male if you don't want to end up alone. Our egos are mostly checked at the door womens much later on because they are taught so long as it comes from a good place whatever they want is valid and should happen. Edit: men would be less satisfied if they actually had as many options womeb do with less work involved getting back to however deep they are in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:25 PM
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If men vetted the amount of women that have a visceral reaction to chad out of thier dating pool they'd end up with no one. Most men do not have the pick of the liter when it comes to women you take what seems to like you that is within your (usually wider than womens)threshold for looks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:48 PM
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They're coping only if they think it'll change womens mind. Other than that its taking away a layer of womens virtue signaling when it comes to who they pick. This matters for the next generation of men and certain current men to wake up and try to look as good as they possibly can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:46 PM
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Reverse it actually. Its stuff chad doesnt have to do or can do that you MUST do. Hobbies for instance are viewed differently and are more tolerable when handsome men do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:38 PM
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This isnt true for women because they link positivity to attractive men. What i mean by that is if a man is top% attractive him playing video games etc isnt an immediate deal breaker nor will it lower his points at all. An attractive drug dealer is just an attractive man hustling to them subconsciously. So long as he is attractive genetically she has won and he'd have to do something eggregious to shake her viee of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:35 PM
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Genetically attractive men are way more rare than genetically attractive women in our respective genders. Settling in the 90s was more content than settling in 2021+ because there wasnt as vast of a comparrison on what they were "losing out on". How is not getting the tiptop of the line person in every category that matters settling? Because that seems to be what it means in our current day. Its because the value of looks has gone up drastically. There are not objectively otherwise below average…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:20 PM
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Genetically attractive men are more rare than genetically attractive women to each respective gender. Before the internet women would still travel see whats out there but the peak of thier actual physical sexual attraction was capped at who happened to be around but now they can connect with chad much easier via social media so they are alot less content with what they end up with. Settling now vs settling in persay 2004 was likely vastly different intensities. (For context I was only 3 in 2004 …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:14 PM
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If I can be curt. Feminism was helped greatly by men. If the so called patriarchy was deeply corrupt they would have found a way to simply say no to womens rights but alot of men helped alongside protests etc. There is no large scale tangible way women help shield men from this because you cannot ask a woman to change her desire. The only thing you can hope for is that she tries something actually new if she becomes fed up with a loop of how she is treated. At at that point you're basically begg…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:25 PM
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I'm not being a defeatist i'm being realistic. Those guys had to basically broadcast to millions of women they're single and were never given a chance and out of all of that Maybe 1-3 women in countries with working internet reached out to give them a chance. 1-3 out of at the minimum tens of thousands. You are actively using outliers to try and argue statisitical improbabilities. Marinate on that please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:53 PM
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You don't know they're quality options or not because you havent even given them a chance in your own mind or they havent approached you due to knowing where they are on the totem pole in terms of looks and attraction. 99% of women do not want someone shorter than them or below 6ft or who is facially ugly, handsome men are more rare as we've established though i know you won't budge on if thats due to neglect from other men or simply genetic as you cannot change your face drastically except thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:51 PM
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So long as you are lean have decent shoulders definition on abs and a great face you're golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:39 PM
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Depending on his age range women prefer sleek bodies that look like they can endure not jacked dudes. Shredded is the only thing that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:49 PM
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Its all well and good but you cannot keep the moniker of being virtuous and wholesome especially in comparrison to men when you are not. The issue is the lie that society projects and that women use when convenient while men are minimized to horny undeserving dogs unless he is attractive. In which case he is a horny dog but he still gets to have relationships, more chances. We should be honest to people about when love isnt in the cards for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:47 PM
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The goal posts arent moving. There is only but so much attention to go around when all women you encounter will have the same preference and type. Those corners are far more suppresed than women bashing men due to sexist assumptions that these women are harmless complainers. I'll say it again. Most women arent considered undatable by most men. They simply do not like who likes them more. The opposite is true for women. Having options up until maybe 35 to having none your entire life. You still t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:41 PM
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People for the most part do not grow out of high school dynamics. The social totem pole will always exist people are jsut more quiet about it until its someone they really trust/like. I promose you theres someone rating coworkers at your job if you're under 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:32 PM
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Incels are far less dangerous when they give up instead of holding onto how "things should be/how things were" Men caring more about thier looks means more physically healthy men and better looking men for women along side better treatment as a human being. They seem neutral because you don't view being a man as trash. Its trash for most men (for lack of better terminology) below a 6. Video games to cope if your country is doing ok enough for you to have them available.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:30 PM
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Women have not been giving those dudes who meet thier higher standards a chance They only say to strictly use women for sex as a coping mechanism because if they or society admits they had no choice nor power in dating they'd have to admit only less than the top 20% of men can get actual desire and love from women.(every girl without fail will take bolder moves or make things more accomodating for the man she actually wants which is rarely an average looking dude anymore) Women are not more virt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:07 PM
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I'm actually quite friendly day to day because i have a mean looking face (basic consideration) yet my handsome coworker(s) does the exact opposite or doesnt even acknowledge them and they fling themselves at him basically even embarrassing themselves to do so. Before 2024 i wasnt looking for attention yet I notice the difference in how people especially women treat me vs more handsome men. Its not no attention is practical invisibility. Not even considered a dating option. I'm not asking for at…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:48 PM
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Lastly let me checkmate you with your own arguement Thats how womens minds work in terms of sex and dating. Extreme ends of the spectrum. If you fall into ugly you're on one end. If you fall into chad territory you're on the other end. Anything in between is just passing time and that lines up perfectly with your redpill life. Chad has no issue and most of the time no intention finding women willing to commit to him they just throw themselves at him or pine for him they will even do it when he's…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:26 AM
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Show me men shitting on women randomly for doing less than what that man did in the video to set women off. Women shit on men as a whole even if most men aren't using them just for thier bodies or if they have good male friends because they forget that ugly and average dudes exist. Usually they are usually imagining the hot dude out of thier league that used them or pissed them off that THEY chose to give the time of day. A woman will literally complain about the hot dude from her past whilst ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:13 AM
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Anything but the possibility people are easily swayed when we paint men as the deserving bad guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:50 AM
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Exceptions do not prove the rule again you lower the goal to simply fucking. When a "chad" walks in the room says not 2 words to those same women, eats like shit, doesn't go to the gym that guy is fucking, gets to fuck them and keep them in his back pocket by simply breathing. No game if anything his greatest strength is not opening his mouth to poison the well. Treatment romantically or platonically varies on looks level but by all means celebrate that brass ring while even the wholesome woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:29 AM
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At any point in time women can get that they just only WANT it from a specific man (usually extremely physically attractive). Women do not want to "scrape the barrel" so to speak and by that i mean dating thier friend who isn't objectively attractive (not nessecarily ugly) but is a great and supportive friend or aqquantance. Even those women want the top of the line men or men above thier station they're not looking at the dude with the same issues as them 9 times out of 10. Women can get love m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:24 AM
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On that last part we agree but no amount of game is going to get meals by cug consistent attraction my friend especially not with more attractive men in that womans life or simply breathing next to him. Dating is contrast Older generations sure maybe if he was a young man in the 70s or 80s some girl may give him a chance. He already has a great personality. You still don't get it. Your looks are how your game is percieved. Be ugly enough people simply deem you a lying tryhard or obviously desper…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:00 AM
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That means it was already in your genes to be that, and depending on how old you are that was enough for the standards at the time to get that. Not taking away from your hard work of course but if "meals by cug" hit the gym and got a good haircut do you think he'd be successful with women? Imagine if he were in a younger generation do you REALLY think he'd do well with women his own age just by being either jacked or shredded? Mind you you're moving the goal posts a bit as sleeping with a few wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:31 AM
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I don't think its easy for women. I simply think its easier compared to but a mans struggles. Society enables the pit fall that sabotages women. If i were to from the heart give a woman advice to find or cultivate men they're attracted to to be better. Don't be too heavy and treat every man they get with the same and be careful of the activities they find frequently fun. My interpersonalized advice is far better i can almost guarantee you of that than whatever you have heard from either side of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:19 AM
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Angry men have made a positive change for men as well but you don't think so because its slightly controversial, new gen men are hyper aware of how much looks matter for them much earlier than previous generations and for the post part are less likely to rush into marriage. Which is a positive change no matter how you slice it. (I am not saying marriage bad but the current economy along side topics relating to women and not are not favorable. Most New gen Women do not value things that make a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:08 AM
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I am actively against compromise and I am not vying for women to date ugly men. I just want society to stop pretending everything is deeper than it is. You literally reversed my point. The point is people compromise for things they value. Most do not compromise for ugly to average people but for the best looking person in thier lives. That is the difference between a friend and a romantic partner. Looks are all that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:16 AM
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Trust me it helps you guys can en masse complain about men. Even though its a negative stereotype, its accepted by society that you will and its not guaranteed people will simply imply "there must be something extremely wrong with you" at the slightest complaint and you cannot even share any frustrated questions in real life to people. Even teen males are subjected to this there is no patience for it. Women have alot of those issues because people refuse to admit men and women are similar in ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:56 PM
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Men are devalued and viewed as disposable the moment they're born by both genders at least women have the sisterhood and beliefs against women are not socially acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:19 PM
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Alot of the reason those groups are more centered around punishing women is because of inflamatory comments usually made by feminists who are more radical or them getting blame for stuff that other men do. Society accepts from the moment a man is born he's a sex crazed pig for example and all his complaints about women will be dumbed down to " oh he just can't get sex" its dehumanizing and before you claim its not women doing this really think to yourself about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:13 PM
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Its less that its a moral failure more so the narrative around women being more virtuous than men/not caring about looks, being less horny and most stuff alot of dudes from previous generations were told isnt adding up. You can't sleep with every hot dude who falls into your life then claim to not care about looks or that looks are a minimal part of what you consider in a partner. Temporarily or long term. If people accepted women care about looks the same way men do. It'd be alot less inflamato…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:09 PM
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Show me the less. Also 90k likes is indicative of a narrative. There are literally 90k people liking the comment that says I hope all men fail. He only made those gestures because the skit suggests she started dancing towards him. Also its extremely easy and common and even acceptable for women to claim all men hate women. Shout both statements respectively in a public space and the reactions are going to be night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:06 PM
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Well if I can be crude...the hood rat method (not a real method just a name I came up with) is an easy way but you have to be good looking or basically be a plug to fun for women. Its just casually being in thier circle making sexual tension and hanging out with them at some point it may be one on one or a good excuse to start dating if shes intruiged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:55 PM
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How are they a loud minority when they have the majority of the likes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:53 PM
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Advice doesn't matter alot of getting women is the circumstance that you're born into thats why certain men are at the bottom of the totem pole in school. Unless they drastically change in looks the treatment they recieve from women never change until much later on in life. About 30 or so at which point most of society deems you a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:52 PM
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Because they alway always possess the same qualities. (An extremely handsome face some bordering on feminine) Personally I don't think height nor money is that big of a deal. If he has an ugly or middling face he will only temporarily get "chad treatment". I'm at the state where when I meet women be it casually or romantically I size up if she was alpha widowed or if I were standing next to my far more handsome coworker if i'd even exist as a dating option to her. It sounds like I dedicate alot …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:48 PM
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Opposing values make for the best flames and intense romance because you push those aside on certain lighter ones (like the moral implications tattoos have to many people). Assuming from what you're saying you've never dated a man with tattoos before since its so high on your list? Or any opposing values once you found out about them? Most women draw a line in the sand but they almost always make an exception or keep themselves ignorant to his actual values when a man is attractive enough. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:42 PM
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Just having a girlfriend or boyfriend does not mean you are loved. Attraction isnt negotiable but there is no doubt those men would've loved you, you just weren't attracted to them. Looks are everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:08 PM
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Less so arguing you. You cannot change, more so solidifying it in my head so I don't even try and sculpting advice to other men about women depending on thier attractiveness level. Also simply reminding yall that its self inflicted and you do not deserve to have empathy or sympathy for when you complain about chad. You're gonna assume I know nothing about what women actually like next.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:07 PM
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The inverse would also have made that the result no? You can likely no longer get your foot in the door with personality and qualities therefore they're irrelevant. Looks also change how your hobbies etc are percieved so anything you we're apprhensive about likely didnt knock your opinion of him down too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:29 PM
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Can we all just stop with the bullshit as if things are deeper than looks? This is the most important factor period.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:13 PM
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How handsome is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:00 PM
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No she said he was cute meaning as he approached her she thought he was cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:18 PM
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Its an analogy not an insult. Your post is hard to get behind because men have a much wider scope of what they consider an attractive woman. Truth be told any response from a man to this is just cope because this implies looks are the first most important thing and that shatters most mens world view. If hot men never used women. Average to below average men would cease to exist. It essentially boils down to any response going "b-but i have emotional intelligence and care, money, status, humor, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:06 PM
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There are other options yet you don't really try them. Its hard to care about someone walk into a glass door when you've held the opposing door open for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:57 AM
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Sure to that last part but women are not actively on a societal level lied to about it. Its well documented men simp or are dogs for attractive women. Yet even if all actions from women reveal they're the exact same way in terms of looks its swept under the rug. Something is always missing from a relationship when the man is uglier than the woman and he is stuck making up for that for the rest of his life. How does absolutely none of what I stated not implying that? Ugly men don't even register …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:56 AM
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Women believe lies more if the dudes handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:39 AM
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Plenty but you'd likely dismiss it. Deadbeat attractive dudes still have women and even get a pass to abuse thier car or sleep on thier couch because they have no where else to go. An extreme number of women on social media complain about handsome men-strictly because he's not forced to mimic the behavior they expect and want out of a man. Many of my girl-friends/aquaintances complain about dudes more handsome than me and yet stay with him or even just in his circle/rotation without fail especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:32 AM
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Sounds more like a one of due to the atmosphere of being in a different country not hope that young women want an american dude who's not lean and handsome. What was stopping you from doing this in your home country exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:17 AM
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Don't value the opinion of my hypothetical wife or value it less? I have had enough disrespect in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:10 AM
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That does not guarantee that you will be attractive after that. Especially someone such as myself/a man. I already have an actual dad bod and get glazed by men but i know from the dark circles/bags under my eyes, the size of my eyes, my nose and lack of unique eye color once I lose these last 45-55lbs its not going to change anything. I look older for my age And yes i do extensive skincare to keep acne off and dark circles. Alongside retinol and a moisturizer i've discovered nivea lipbalm with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:08 AM
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Yes but that's even rarer in women romantically i'd argue. You'd have to be exceptional in looks or simply end up as just a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:55 AM
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Men can get a relationship but for it to actually be loving you'd have to be her absolute best partner which isnt possible if you aren't as handsome as previous partners, no matter what gestures you give that deep spark will always be missing due to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:53 AM
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Jokes at wives are sexist, jokes at husbands are amazing. I'd rather not be an oofydoofy sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:01 AM
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You don't need hobbies in common but a willingness or non immediate revulsion to eachothers hobbies. If you're willing to try hers and vice versa you technically just fixed you guys not having common or similar hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:59 AM
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Yeah but its attainable for women. Men only get it if they are born a certain way now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:48 AM
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Ugly dudes who'd give you everything they can don't even exist as an option to you. Only looks matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:47 AM
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Yes. Husbands are the butt of jokes and its viewed that they should be eternally greatful to thier wife for even breathing in thier direction the younger you go its incentivized to drop them on a whim because being a man means being born replacable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:45 AM
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No woman usually under age 27 is attraced to a fat and/or ugly man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:40 AM
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Oh and before you say "you're forcing it" I am literally the same way with friends quiet until the chance for jokes comes up and just having conversation be it deep or fun whatever the situation feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:39 AM
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The fact no woman (regardless of her age or "looks level") looks at me the way they do my handsome coworker(s) when all he does is stand there and breathe (and never will as I only get older) no matter how well the conversation goes or how comfortable I make them feel, how well i've been hitting the gym, how funny or reserved I am, no matter the emotional advice i give them. The proof is in the pudding. Who looks down on me? Society and people who say incel as an insult. I won't say women becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:29 AM
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Trying to not be like other women or seem more virtious than her ex. Or they were from a different generation. I'm just gathering evidence in my own head that women only complain about men they're attracted to therefore only looks matter, and can net you more chances than being a decent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:21 AM
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How long will I have to wait while others live thier lives and many look down on me for being silently undesirable? Why did it not take that for other people? How can I look at that person with love when I know they wouldn't have breathed in my direction 30 or so years ago? (I am 24)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:11 AM
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It is for most men. If you have men above you in anyway especiay looks its just fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:46 PM
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Most bluepillers or women presuppose attraction. They can never be wrong if they believe "theres someone out there for everyone". When they give this advice they're envisioning an attractive man not some bald/balding construction worker or office worker with no chin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:30 PM
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I just want to be loved and appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:27 PM
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Ugly men can't love bomb you. Or rather you're more likely to keep your head on your shoulders when he tries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:12 PM
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You demand certain behaviour from men you're attracted to when you only throw yourself at them because you're attracted to them. The fix to that is if the playing field was more even. But if attraction is the end all be all which it hasnt always been then you are just complaining into air and the men you lust after will never change
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:10 PM
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Once again its mens fault. Even women who are word for word "4's" only give the best treatment and attention to chad and the like. Meanwhile that guy 4's a 4 is stuck apologizing for not being chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:06 PM
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