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| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence.""Manifesto" has kind of a pejorative Eliot Rodger-ish vibe, which is why I thought it was an attack. I misunderstood. My bad. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 07:23 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."You actually don't know what I believe. The truth would probably surprise you. Another thing you don't know how to do is debate. Because if you did, you would recognize the usefulness of appropriating positions that you potentially don't fully agree with to make an impactful point. Which is what I did when I wrote the OP that someone liked well enough to sticky. All you did was yell at someone on the internet. I'll bet you've never persuaded anyone of anything on here. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 05:18 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."And since you had no credible rebuttal you tried a lazy ad hominem attack? | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 05:08 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."Also, I'll just add that I wrote the OP. It's weird to be called ideologically impure in my own stickied thread because I disagreed with a feminist. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 05:01 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."This was a comment your pal Whitey made five hours ago: Oh, you're "so proud of her"? As if she were your kid, or dog. I bet she really appreciates your approval, you condescending shit. Typical MRA. He's a feminist troll and you're an idiot. I want the left to play by the same rules and demonstrate some consistency. That's why I compare toxic masculinity to hate speech, because it demonstrably relies on the same logic. I'm not actually offended by hate speech or by "toxic masculinity" but it's … | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 04:55 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."Whether or not there is some truth at the core of some generalizations I think is beyond the point. The problem is the rhetoric, which has the exact same flavor and logic of that which is espoused by the KKK to demonize and marginalize whole groups of people in a way that has a veneer of intellectual seriousness. There are inherent consequences to saying that one group of people is inferior or dangerous as compared to another. That's what toxic masculinity says. It's inappropriate for one group … | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 02:49 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."No, there is not a feminist position on toxic femininity, as it's more or less heresy in feminism to speak ill of another woman's choices –– unless a woman rejects feminism. "Hyper-masculine" and "machismo" are not a loaded slur designed to discredit communities and kinds of culture, unlike toxic masculinity; plus I reject your notion that mainstream social scientists are making sweeping generalizations about the black community's hyper-masculine-ism, and if they were to, I'm sure they would be … | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 02:31 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."The problem is the feminist application of "toxic masculinity" which is a convenient gendered catch-all designed to discredit anything that they find excessively male-ish. Yes, masculinity exists. That doesn't need to be said. Femininity also exists. It's in the analysis that things go off the rails. A comparable misuse of "femininity" as a concept would be a panel of misogynists sitting on a panel discussing the fact that toxic femininity is destroying the world, because, for example, women don… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 02:03 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."But here's the problem: violence is inherent to maleness. It's just a fact of life. But here's the problem: violence is inherent to blackness. It's just a fact of life. See what I did there? The problem is the rhetoric, which provides a slippery slope of othering and stigmatizing. People are to be judged as individuals, not as inherently dangerous and pathological because they're from this group or that. That, if anything, is what the twentieth century has taught us. Whether or not there is some… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 01:45 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."It's about fairness in rhetoric. We can look at statistics and claim accurately that one group of people are more likely to commit a crime than another group, but we don't use that to create some conceptual framework through which we pathologize an entire population and sub-culture. That's the rhetorical domain of white supremacists. And yes, the bias of feminism also shows in the fact that the normal feminist conception of maleness is not merely violent, but violent in a way that is mindless an… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 01:19 AM |
| 1 | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."No, thank you! Truly an honor! | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 01:03 AM |
| – | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."Just reposted with a throwaway. I promise not to delete! Thanks so much for all the work you do and the other mods do! | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 12:57 AM |
| 1 | "Toxic Masculinity" is hate speech. Full stop. It pathologies maleness and attempts to link violence to men's culture. Feminists discussing "toxic masculinity" is little different than white supremacists attacking "ni**** culture" and "black violence."Sure thing! Sorry about the deleting. I try to have a small digital footprint. And thanks for the honor of a sticky! I'll delete this in a few moments, and repost from a throwaway. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/15 12:51 AM |
| 2 | Every time a man says his wife is controlling, he is just "pretending" and exposing his "paranoid, "aggressive" and "fragile male ego," most likely because he hates feminism. Imagine if we said something similar about women who discuss abusive marriages.He was just pretending. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/15 01:38 PM |
| – | Every time a man says his wife is controlling, he is just "pretending" and exposing his "paranoid, "aggressive" and "fragile male ego," most likely because he hates feminism. Imagine if we said something similar about women who discuss abusive marriages.Right, because no woman ever has been controlling or psychologically abusive. And the author's justification for believing women when they complain about controlling husbands boils down to men invariably being monsters on a perpetual testosterone rampage. Completely insane that stuff like this gets printed. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/15 11:07 PM |
| 5 | How do you tell if you are dealing with a rational feminist, or one of the crazies?I guess ask about rape culture and the patriarchy . . . You'll either be subjected to deranged litany of canned talking points––these people never come up with original ideas; it's always the same arguments, euphemisms, even adjectives ("problematic")––or you'll get a blank stare and some blinking. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/15 12:53 AM |
| – | How do you tell if you are dealing with a rational feminist, or one of the crazies?There are two kinds of "feminists." Type A is under-informed and self-identifies as "feminist" because Beyonce and others have made it trendy and it just feels good. Type A's understanding of feminism is about as shallow as a "girl power!" chant. This type is largely egalitarian and just wants women to continue to have the same opportunities as men. Type B believes in a patriarchy and a rape culture and is viewing the world through a lens of imagined victimhood. Type B has a rape fixation and pr… | /r/MensRights | 08/08/15 10:40 PM |
| – | Bernie Sanders claims the 78-cent gender gap is for the same work. Wrong. The 78 cent gap separates the average earnings of ALL MEN AND WOMEN WORKING FULL-TIME; it does not account for occupation or differences in hours worked.Bernie Sanders is a raging SJW. He has a massive hard-on for identity politics and oppression narratives. Investigate it. He's TumblrInAction: The Politician. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/15 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Bernie Sanders claims the 78-cent gender gap is for the same work. Wrong. The 78 cent gap separates the average earnings of ALL MEN AND WOMEN WORKING FULL-TIME; it does not account for occupation or differences in hours worked."In 2013, female full-time workers made only 78 cents for every dollar earned by men, a gender wage gap of 22 percent." http://www.iwpr.org/initiatives/pay-equity-and-discrimination#sthash.zFDkyest.dpuf | /r/MensRights | 27/07/15 10:28 PM |
| – | The cuckolded New York Magazine man who wants his wife sleeping around in the name of feminism does not existNot a troll piece. If you had small children and wanted to write about your wife screwing other guys, you would make up a pseudonym too. Duh. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/15 11:21 AM |
| – | "Househusband" lets other dudes screw his wife because he's a male feminist. Monogamy is "patriarchal oppression." A pathetic portrait of male subjugation in the name of feminism.It doesn't sound like he's getting very much, though. It was his wife's idea to "open" the relationship, and he seems to see it as being his feminist duty to go along with it. Can you read that and honestly tell me it sounds like an equitable and mutually gratifying arrangement? | /r/MensRights | 16/07/15 03:21 PM |
| 2 | How do you approach intersectionality?That's exactly the kind of thinking that I'm talking about. YES! Black men, on average, experience a more severe degree of cultural pressure from the state. But, they ultimately are individuals with personal agency who are tasked with overcoming the challenges they face on a cultural and personal level. Black men have been failed by society and also by their own category. Perhaps you are not thinking critically, given that you're sticking to the canned PC script on this and ostensibly, all other… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/15 04:01 PM |
| 5 | How do you approach intersectionality?We are discussing issues relevant to males. We don't aspire to discuss every issue that affects every category of human male, but I'm sure the majority of us would welcome any perspective so long as it was relevant to the male experience on some level. You are trying to hold a collection of disparate opinions to some academic standard of inclusion based on the premise that "gay black men" for example are not individuals with agency, but are a category of The Oppressed. It's a nonsensical standar… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/15 03:54 PM |
| – | How do you approach intersectionality?Black men also commit crimes at higher rates than other groups, thus contributing to efforts to justify the – admittedly unfair – level of state pressure exerted on their group. I am sympathetic to the plight of black men and I absolutely see it as relevant to men's rights, but I doubt that the majority of this community would be willing to buy into the simplistic narrative pushed by leftist media/academics that choices made by black Americans are not a major contributor to the difficulty of the… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/15 03:39 PM |
| – | How do you approach intersectionality?I think unlike devotees of post-structuralist academic idiot-obscurantism, a group like Men's Rights views society as more than a series of stacked cultural pressures exerting themselves on individuals who have no personal autonomy and who are doomed to be victimized by their lack of privilege. We see society as a collection of actors with agency who are behaving well or badly. It is an axiomatic truism that some individuals have more "privilege" than others – we also generally don't care. Life … | /r/MensRights | 12/07/15 03:26 PM |
| 5 | How do you approach intersectionality?Echoing this. "Intersectionality" is pseudo-intellectual cultspeak psychobabble, pure and simple. Academic rhetorical inanity has no meaning in the harsh light of the real world. Here's Noam Chomsky, the leftist idol, explaining the culture that births stupidity akin to "intersectionality": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjNJX64cBOE | /r/MensRights | 12/07/15 03:13 PM |
| 9 | Why Rape Is Sincerely HilariousI've seen the internal dialogue shift from trying to advocate men's issues from a feminist perspective of gender to the vitriolic us-versus-them brought about by the influx of anti-feminist reactionaries. Men's Rights exists as a movement because feminism has demonstrated that viewing human relations through a feminist lens results in a misandrist bias and bad advocacy that is either indifferent or pernicious to the rights of men. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/15 01:54 PM |
| – | Why Rape Is Sincerely HilariousThere are issues that feminists and men's rights activists agree on and that's great. If there were an opportunity for us to "join forces" in a meaningful way that positively impacts people's lives, I'd be all for that. The problem is that the feminist worldview and the misandrist advocacy that results from it is overwhelmingly a bad thing for men. A major example being efforts to ignore women's equality of opportunity in the working world in favor of pushing equality of outcome, which erodes th… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/15 01:48 PM |
| – | Why Rape Is Sincerely HilariousJudging by your post history, you're a feminist attempting to troll men's rights by posting "Feminist" content that will resonate with us. But whatever your motivation, thanks for posting a video that will be appreciated by a lot of people here. Rape is an issue for feminists as much as it's an issue for Men's Rights Activists, because men are raped by women and women are raped by men (and women are raped by women and men are raped by men). It's an issue that affects everyone. That said, I would… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/15 12:26 PM |
| – | Feminist admits to urinating in public, but condemns men for doing the same.Although my female friends and I went through a phase of weeing in the street during our university drinking days, it was always through sheer, desperate necessity, at 3am, rather than the more male attitude; a “here’s as good as anywhere” laziness. Oh give me a fucking break! Now only women urinate because of physiological need; men empty their bladders because of arrogance and male privilege! | /r/MensRights | 05/03/15 04:52 PM |
| – | Deadspin and Jezebel glibly refer to a false accuser as a "rape victim" in alarmist piece about Oregon basketball players. Read the DA's account of the event. On what planet is this "rape?"This is my favorite part: During the second sexual assault episode, the victim reports getting a text from a friend telling her that it was “time to go”. This assault reportedly ended promptly when the victim told her assailants “I need to go”. At that point, all four people reportedly left the bathroom and the victim went outside where one of her friends was waiting with her ride home. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/15 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Deadspin and Jezebel glibly refer to a false accuser as a "rape victim" in alarmist piece about Oregon basketball players. Read the DA's account of the event. On what planet is this "rape?"Thanks for the archived link. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/15 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Deadspin and Jezebel glibly refer to a false accuser as a "rape victim" in alarmist piece about Oregon basketball players. Read the DA's account of the event. On what planet is this "rape?"I updated the link. Thanks. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/15 12:27 PM |
| – | Deadspin and Jezebel glibly refer to a false accuser as a "rape victim" in alarmist piece about Oregon basketball players. Read the DA's account of the event. On what planet is this "rape?"The Deadspin "Rape Victim" headline (also linked to at Jezebel): https://archive.today/cmbR7 | /r/MensRights | 04/03/15 11:58 AM |
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