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Well, it is black and white. When you have more deaths on one side that are orders of magnitude than the other side, it very clearly is a problem that concerns that side, you're being the #all_lives_matter of this topic.
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 01:10 PM
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Preach louder, none of the two mentioned are anything about MRA at all
/r/MensRights11/08/22 11:34 AM
2

There is no sarcasm in what she said, men in dangerous jobs don't discriminate by gender or care, they will flat out refuse to work with anyone who's physique is less than what the job demands. I worked in metallic structures construction, and the work there is that if you fear heights, can't hold your body's weight with a single hand in emergencies, and cannot lift/control a very heavy chunk of metal in emergencies, you'd be considered a danger to everyone involved, and no one wants you on the …
/r/MensRights11/08/22 11:14 AM
1

This settles it for me, this guy's a literal ass and he deserves to rot in jail.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 12:35 AM
1

Fuck off, you think bullying me who's on your side will help our case ?
/r/MensRights08/08/22 03:57 PM
1

Indeed, but I don't know how to convey it, and by now it's too late
/r/MensRights07/08/22 11:25 AM
1

In my culture, we had a way of doing it that involved never asking out a girl directly, you always send a female friend to ask her out for you, it reduced a lot of those kind of issues.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 05:25 AM
1

It was a serious question, but seeing from the downvotes I got, it seems not welcome ? I'll never understand reddit, but my point was that you'd get less depressed if you also think in clearer terms of what you want to be different, it gives you a reason to live rather than reasons not to.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:44 AM
1

What do you want changed exactly ?
/r/MensRights06/08/22 10:55 PM
18

Do you know what's the duluth model ?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:17 PM
3

We have an algerian saying that goes "wach yekhser li 3omro ma rba7" that means " what would he lose he who never won " You cannot really threaten an oppressed group by oppression, because that's been the case anyways.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 11:28 AM
9

It's the exact same, the frustration that accompanies not being able to form relationships can be toxic, but the word itself means people who are not in a relationship because they fail to.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 09:58 AM
13

Can you stop using incel as an insult ? If someone cannot form relationships, it's a problem they have, not a value statement about who they are.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 09:35 AM
8

If it was a comment, I believe I've done that in this group, and I have no regret, there is no difference between racist prejudice and sexist prejudice, and being an african male made me experience a lot of both.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 09:31 AM
6

I don't know what I feel about the naming, but as someone from a vastly different culture, I can confirm my school life was exactly the same way, and I'm from algeria ( dzayer is the local name, my username means algerian in my native language )
/r/MensRights04/08/22 09:28 AM
4

I personally avoid relationships too, but people who identify online as MGTOW are rarely the type who actually go their own way and are usually the butthurt type. Also what I meant by sexist is that they both are separatists in nature.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 08:51 AM
5

The real difference between feminism and men rights activism, is the that former is pseudo-organized, and the latter is free form. Also misogyny despite being present here, it is not welcome, while misandry is not just welcome, instead promoted and held holy in all feminist groups, so putting equivalence isn't really fair, but no one can deny there are bad people everywhere. Feminism can be compared to MGTOW, those are plain sexist and they don't mind it.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:05 AM
2

Worth noting the similarity between the pro-draft and pro-slavery arguments in core ( who would do the work )
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:11 AM
3

Just scroll fds or twox
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:40 AM
2

So what do you suggest to be done ?
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:44 AM
10

That doesn't make the issues not real or "real" The issues are very real and damaging, what people do or say is irrelevant to the issues being there.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:10 AM
12

I'll ignore the 3rd point because we're both not lawyers and it's a big topic. For the 1st, I believe the majority of those who are for men rights and not for religious rights are against MGM, I personally want it to be absolutely banned, and plain punishing parents for even daring to suggest it, I see MGM as FGM, mutilating a baby should be a crime. For the second point, I should remind you that the world isn't the USA, I personally was drafted, and served two years in the military doing random…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 12:03 AM
14

What part of those issues isn't real to you that you wrote "real" ? 1) is MGM fine to you ? 2) is the draft fine to you ? 3) is the current state of laws of custody/alimony fine to you ? How are those three points fake issues ?
/r/MensRights01/08/22 11:46 PM
3

The equivalence is in dating someone who hates you
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:25 PM
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I ignored advice like this once, and I paid for it. I hope the comments get to you and you realize the danger you're in right now, you're the equivalent of a woman dating a misogynist narcissist.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:33 PM
1

I hope you can handle jail my buddy, especially with injuries 😔😏
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:32 PM
1

There is a wide spectrum between not tolerating the intolerant and being intolerant.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:30 PM
8

It's a very very bad idea, you know who her friends will side with when she goes sycho on you.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:20 PM
13

Yes you can't be both tyrant and anarchist, you can however be a leftist tyrant or a rightist tyrant, left and right are about socio-economical policies not about tolerance
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:17 PM
1

A lot of confusion comes from people separating political statements from their political nature and isolating them from their political agenda. Feminism is inherently leftist, auth left to be precise, a more communist approach to the economy is how they see it, so to them it would make sense to control who gets paid what even if the wage gap doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 01:40 PM
3

I do remember the word being used before the song, and it meant stalker-fan
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:55 AM
5

We don't need to agree on anything besides that misandry bad, proper equality/fairness is desired. MRA is not a political stance, as thus there are leftists and rightists here, alongside free market and controlled market people.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 07:59 AM
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That's what I consider an organized movement, not an organisation, to me it is like organized religion, it might have sects and even bloodshed amongst their ranks, but they share the canons and they tend to recruit quickly and rally quickly towards goals/against opposing goals. Apparently you draw the line far from where I draw it.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 09:01 PM
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What do you mean exactly by it is not an organized movement ? Don't they have canon texts and pseudo-officially speakers and use the same label and have organizations that use the same label everywhere ? Is this not an organized movement for you ? Or you think the line is drawn at having an official church ?
/r/MensRights30/07/22 07:58 PM
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I was raised in a highly strict religious society, and we eventually managed to break the ropes for our generation through no organized movement, just preach and move on. Tell everyone around the points you think they should know about and leave it at that, eventually everyone will just fight their own rights and freedoms in their inner circle, causing a ripple effect, we went from strictly religious society to a very tolerant one through "same direction, not same team" mentality. The way it wor…
/r/MensRights30/07/22 06:48 PM
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I never said we should get organized, and I don't believe in rallying, I believe in individual acts that go towards a similar goal. Anything that organizes around a thought will become a hivemind that priorities the existence of the movement over the goals or the benefit of the participants, as thus any movement that organizes will outlive its supposed lifespan and end up acting like cancer ( like literal cancer, not as an insult )
/r/MensRights30/07/22 06:21 PM
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Once it gets organized, it will start going downhill, as is now, it is not the case. Organized thoughts always have the pitfall. Yes, what I said wasn't productive, people gotta people sometimes.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 05:55 PM
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Every time I see you comment, you ask an open ended question and whenever people engage with you, you refuse to answer. Feminism is an organized movement, MRAs are not. You're doing the "atheism is its own religion" argument.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 05:29 PM
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All women are constantly raped every second that men exist. Your existence is rape!
/r/MensRights30/07/22 03:52 PM
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And no anesthesia, you get to remember vividly the incident. Source: ex-muslim who had MGM done at age 8, and remember vividly every second of it.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 04:48 PM
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Almost everyone can relate to this, but you know the drill, as soon as you can afford rent, you know what to do. Also this goes for both fathers and mothers, you parents don't owe a relationship with you, they have to earn it like everybody else, they just had an earlier chance than everybody else to earn one, but if they didn't, don't feel bad at all cutting them off until they realize they are not entitled to you and they need to respect you to be in your life.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 04:37 PM
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Almost everyone can relate to this, but you know the drill, as soon as you can afford rent, you know what to do.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 04:36 PM
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You're dishonest. My first question was in the form of "give counter evidence to prove the counter claim", and my second iteration was even more direct and you still didn't answer it. And guess what the the two links he provides say ? They actually define sexual harassment as harassment towards women, that is not necessarily sexual, so basically gender discriminatory harassment.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 04:28 PM
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I had to serve two years of obligatory military service before I was even allowed a work permit, in my own country, and I am a native, my elders lived here since whatever. i am not taking bullshit from someone who just thinks rights are handed for free. I will stand with y'all the day you start denouncing the drafting of young males.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 07:44 AM
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I am not OP, and I am not comment thread OP, I asked a very straight forward constrained question. Also I did not downvote you. If there were only two gender roles, assigned by birth sex, and they had clear tasks, and you initially agree with her that the kids were raised by women. Why is it not the failure of women that their kids weren't raised up proper ? I don't get why you're going on a tangent, if the printer's broken it's on IT department, if it's the paychecks late, it's the finance depa…
/r/MensRights28/07/22 07:42 AM
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You downvote and throw piles of text, I am not OP and I don't care about outside the scope of what's said here. Is the term sexual harassment equivalent of sexual assault or of sex discriminatory harassment ? Why didn't you answer a very direct question.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 04:14 AM
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Since you're in IT, I would give you an advice that will seem counter intuitive at first. Ignore the academy and go straight to the work market, apply for jobs as an independent and try to get a contract by competence, that's what they can never take from you.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 03:33 AM
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You wrote a lot and didn't address the root argument, what he is saying is that sexual harassement is a term that means sex discriminatory harassment. If that is the case, then someone rubbing someone unwanted is more in the realm of rape and not harassment, so from his stand point of what the term means, it makes sense. What evidence do you have that the term means a violation of sexual nature of one's boundaries and not harassment of sex discriminatory nature ?
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:07 AM
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At least you're consistent then. i have nothing to add.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 01:36 AM
1

So it's fine if I said all women are potential misandrists ?
/r/MensRights28/07/22 01:16 AM
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You asked for a post that says all men are rapists
/r/MensRights28/07/22 01:10 AM
5

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/w9m233/men_need_to_understand_that_every_man_even_the
/r/MensRights28/07/22 01:05 AM
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It's easy to blame the patriarchy whatever that means for it, but we can go with it, the patriarchy is at fault for splitting roles, so: If traditional families split the duties, the men get the house and the food in the kitchen, and the women raise the kids and put that food on the table, how are men responsible for the failure of raising up children ? Wouldn't it be men's fault if the children had no shelter and the women fault for the kids having no proper upbringing ?
/r/MensRights28/07/22 12:43 AM
5

Can you name a horrible thing that women do tho ?
/r/MensRights28/07/22 12:40 AM
10

Yes, being able to own land, divorce and vote and have a bank account without the military service/draft is really not fair, no one should get rights without duties.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 12:05 AM
2

It's the time old argument of "you can't comment on my religion unless you're a scholar"
/r/MensRights25/07/22 01:28 PM
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I'm really curious how do you think more feminism would solve this issue ?
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:12 AM
3

You're not wrong, but your approach is wrong. You could've said something to those lines without being dismissive, you chose to be an asshole.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:28 PM
1

Being emotionally dismissive on purpose is bullying, doesn't mean I don't know what other forms of bullying are, or that I didn't experience any.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:27 PM
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What he said was that he can't be responsible for other parents doing it wrong.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 09:35 PM
1

And that's where people like me start experiencing racism from feminists online, because I'm from a country that they mistake for one of those countries while it actually isn't ( we're one of those other countries where they can end your life with an accusation, and the majority of teachers and medics are female )
/r/MensRights19/07/22 09:11 PM
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Should I remind you that simpsons is FOX not CNN ? It obviously meant to shed light at the discrimination not promote it.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 09:05 PM
3

I was immune to insults, I grew up hearing them for good morning. They only got me when they engaged me physically, it never stopped until I was in high school.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 09:00 PM
4

Why the fuck does his value depend on attracting or not a girl ?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 08:57 PM
3

It's like you have to earn the right for the very basic right of acknowledging what you are, not even that it is even worth shit.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 08:56 PM
5

Let the boy be, go bully someone else
/r/MensRights19/07/22 08:51 PM
3

I relate to this one a lot, I've had more fights than I ever wanted to, and mostly because they tried to bully me and I had already some extreme parental abuse at home so kids my age didn't scare me. But despite constant fighting back and never letting anyone get away with pushing me around, bullying never stopped.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 08:49 PM
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I did notice that trend, and it actually triggers me on a very deep level when I see it, but it is not as prevalent. And if it becomes, I'll stop watching anime, because I've got serious cases of that kind of abuse as a kid and I have no ability to tolerate it.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:18 PM
3

I recently started only watching anime too, and I have to applaud the japanese for doing equality and diversity in a very sane manner when they do it. Both male and female traits are portrayed in a non derogatory manner, sexuality isn't broached a lot, but even when they include diversity, it never feels forced. Hollywood and netflix could learn a lot from the japs
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:02 PM
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You really have no clue what life is like when you're treated for a guilty that needs to prove innocence on every single interaction of your life.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:28 PM
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i think what makes the difference is, (not saying its right, but this is my theory.) in white supermacist minds (speaking as a white) we believe a black's target is mostly going to be white to assault. (although blacks do attack blacks as well, it mostly happens to whites) but when it comes to men committing crime(crime in general by any gender but im using the sexist example), they can have anyone as a target. so i see this in a funny way because im seeing this as no one is right but no one is …
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:41 PM
2

There is a dot not a comma there, the second sentence is a separate sentence. It should be the other way around, aka it should be men suing for accidental pregnancy, because they have no control over the pregnancy except for abstaining from sex completely.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 09:38 PM
2

That's not what he said, that's what you were told is being said here and you came with a cognitive bias to find that
/r/MensRights18/07/22 08:59 PM
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It's his deduction from the mentioned methodology, you can double check it on your own, but your argument will be denied because the report intentionally doesn't mention that conclusion but only explains the methodology ( late pages of the report )
/r/MensRights18/07/22 07:13 PM
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Not surprising that you noticed a lot common between racists and sexists.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 01:14 PM
8

Always strikes me as weird that you need a permit to drive a car, and none to raise children.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:27 AM
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You can bet he became extremely anti-MGM now. Sad that it cost an innocent kid.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:26 AM
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I can take an easier approach to the argument, Given that the only difference between males and females is the giving birth thing, if things were reversed, they'd be exactly reversed, and you'd have exactly what we have right now. The argument becomes if women were called men.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:13 AM
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Here it is still only defined as rape when a man penetrates a woman, everything else is just harassment, and you need a very good lawyer to come close to even getting believed if you're a male victim of a female abuser, and it will always count as SH not anything severe.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 01:15 AM
1

I didn't say don't engage, I said don't argue, as in, don't bother using well constructed arguments or take what they say as arguments, I take what they say as just smearing and I mostly only use ridicule with them.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 01:11 AM
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Spoiler: they are promoting exactly that, and the sooner people become aware of them, the safer humanity becomes.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 08:48 PM
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I come from a culture that still justifies rape on females ( legally punishable, but society doesn't believe so ), and on every rape case there are morons that argue that all females have rape fetish, and the rapist shouldn't have been jailed. So I can see what kind of morony they are spewing against the males, it's almost identical. I think the only progress done legally is on the female victims side, but socially not much progress on either side.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 08:45 PM
2

Number one rule of arguing with a misogynist or a misandrist: don't.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 05:43 AM
12

Underage and consent 🤨 what ?
/r/MensRights15/07/22 03:33 AM
2

False allegations have a tendency to give unjustified credence to the false claims that sex offenders are that they too are victims of false allegations. This here
/r/MensRights15/07/22 03:24 AM
3

If there is an act that has a 50% chances of benefiting you, and 0% chances of damaging you. You've got every reason to do it, and just leaving the possibility to that is an open exploit point that should be closed, I don't see the point arguing that a loophole isn't exploited enough to be closed.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 12:05 AM
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I agree his take at it is misogynistic at core, But it rephrased to: society doesn't seem to care about men, it is against its fundamental nature of survival to be able to do so. That's the statement without misogyny, can you critique this one without pointing at hate speech ?
/r/MensRights14/07/22 11:49 PM
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You're running high risk of being raped or falsely accused.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 10:50 PM
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In theory, if there is an act that has a 50% chance of benefiting you and 0% chance of doing any damage to you, you'd be a foul to not abuse that act until it is banned.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 10:47 PM
2

There is that concept of good bad and bad bad, for example cowardice is a bad bad, but being an over confident scum is considered a good bad. They are not looking for nice men, nice men are a bad good, they are looking for the good good and the good bad, aka a resourceful and charismatic person with a huge pile of over confidence and preferably attractive. You know what they say, if your requirement are unrealistic all applicants will be liars.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 11:28 PM
4

This is wrong, it's not his child, but it is an innocent kid still, take the fight to the culpable mother not the poor kid
/r/MensRights12/07/22 09:27 AM
2

Ever been to extremist religious subs ? I'm an ex-muslim berber, and my take on this ? Feminists remind me a lot of muslims, and of pan-arabists ( racists who insist we berber people don't exist and we're just some threat to their pan arabism bullshit ) You can not rationalize with dogmatic hatred fueled fight-club-like cults.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:06 AM
2

I think she is in denial, she did the equivalent of pushing too hard on someone's neck and them dying, and then finding it hard to believe what you just did is murder.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:20 AM
3

Yes
/r/MensRights10/07/22 10:07 PM
1

Not real islam
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 11:52 PM
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I think the point being, you can have sympathy for the human but not tolerance for their acts.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 08:53 PM
2

Kinda yes
/r/MensRights07/07/22 08:49 PM
3

OP is a continuation of the that post not a contrast
/r/MensRights07/07/22 06:44 PM
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Well, that is exactly what it means, that without evidence to your accusations, assumption is that you're a liar
/r/MensRights06/07/22 11:06 AM
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That is what innocent until proven guilty means
/r/MensRights06/07/22 11:01 AM
9

You think it's funny, but I wouldn't realize it if you didn't tell me, all I got from my parents were bruises, didn't occur to me this is the job of a father.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 10:59 PM
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Being upvoted or downvoted is no indication of anything, this is the internet. But I was saying the problem is the lack of any guidance or advice that is accessible, calling someone a rapist over shitty behaviour wont make them fix it.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 06:39 PM
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They are teens that received no advice, shaming someone for their behaviour makes them go more discreet about it next time, they won't change it if no one explained to them why it's wrong and what's the alternative.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 06:05 PM
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Young guys would benefit if there was a medium through which they get advice from older men about how to handle emotions in a healthy way that preserves their dignity.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 06:03 PM
14

They also hate FTM the same way a slave owner a 100 years ago hates mixed race marriage
/r/MensRights03/07/22 01:36 PM
1

Never forget your /s on reddit
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:29 AM
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It actually is less bad, islam wasn't about sexism, it was about class oppression and racial oppression, a female non-slave arab would have vastly more rights to anything non-arab or non-muslim. There is even a story of a lady who raped her servant, the servant got the death sentence for being of lower class than her. i would cite sources, but all of this is in arabic and I don't feel like digging in their shit stuff.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:26 AM
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Life pro tip: whenever you start thinking that maybe hitler was innocent, take a deep breath and go search footage of what he did. The cummiez being totalitarians and violent doesn't make the nazis good, it makes them both bad.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:10 AM
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