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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:43 PM
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Less than 10% of my matches result in a date, after which I am usually ghosted. If you're getting dates at all I feel like you have no grounds to call yourself "blackpilled" lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:28 PM
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“Omg, that guy over there said he thought I was cute and wanted to see if I was interested in going to dinner with him sometime”. Like does that really sound like a creep? No. I mean, maybe creep was the wrong word, but the vibe I get today is that women don't want to be asked out anywhere other than maybe online dating. They consider it rude. "I just wanted to be here to taste wine / go hiking / lift, not for every guy in here to ask me out." Also hitting on someone is making a lot of sexually …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:49 PM
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Come on, it's not that bad. Bad stories aside, it just seems utterly soulless to me. I really don't think I can personally surmount that barrier, I almost think I'd rather just die alone than resort to getting a partner through online dating, lmao. But more than that, I'm just saying, is this really the place society has gotten itself into? That the only acceptable remaining way of finding a partner is via dating apps? Is that not a bit sad, that we've been commodified and isolated to the point …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:11 PM
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"only" 3 times "Blackpill Man" bro?? Still, your 1 match a week is a pretty good summary of why I don't fuck with online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:55 PM
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No, actually I think /u/EnteFetz is spot on. Like where? Genuinely what is one supposed to do? There are nearly no remaining "real-world" places where it's appropriate or feasible to approach people for dating. The one singular place I can think of is bars or clubs and I have no idea how that's supposed to work - plus COVID is a thing. This leaves just online dating, which I've heard enough horror stories about to never want to set foot near. (Like sure, as you say, if you're "dumpster diving" b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:47 AM
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Hmm, kind of same here, but only to some extent. 25, have plenty of friends, have a decently high-paying job, have a few hobbies, look pretty bog-standard average. Definitely pretty socially awkward - and I suspect that's my primary issue along with many (maybe even all?) of my friends who are virgins - but nothing crazy. I'm with you, the narrative that every single virgin over 21 is a deranged smelly lunatic is a bit unrealistic. The socially awkward bit is definitely spot-on though. Not sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:20 AM
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Pre internet when people wanted to socialize they had to go out. They had to talk to people. Now people can get their fill of social interaction online, so they can be more selective in-person. Exactly. My pet theory is that the point-and-click nature of social interaction on the Internet has turned socialization into something that needs to be optimized and pruned. The concept of having friends or partners who annoy you sometimes but you deal with their flaws anyways, has given way to the idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:13 PM
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I'm a millenial too (25 yo). Yes, our gen is bad, but we bullied less than the boomers before us. And gen Z seems less bullying prone from what i hear
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:55 PM
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Because any difference, in a society that tolerates promiscuity, results in some members of the high-libido group being unable to find partners Some, sure. "Some" is not 30% bordering on 50%, and rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:58 PM
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Tbh, all the generations before Z got bullied, and they seemed to turn out mostly fine. I think I'll take that over what we have now. Online bullying is a thing anyways. Plus, gen Z actually seems less IRL-bullying-prone than previous gens
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:56 PM
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Primarily? Fix the next generation. That is: Make kids more sociable. Encourage parents to keep their kids off of social media / the Internet. Dial down the "stranger danger" mindsets. Perhaps sponsor more community events. Most incel-ism stems from social awkwardness. Gen Z is shaping up to be more awkward, introverted, and terminally online than any before. We should try and fix that. Yes, this is all a bit of a pipe dream, but at least mentioning it would be far preferable to "just stop them …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:19 AM
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Both genders would be better off meeting other people organically in real life. I agree. And yet, how? Where are you supposed to meet someone to possibly start a relationship in 2022? Work has been a no-go for ages. Colleges are out. Gyms are out. Bars and clubs are the typical answer, but COVID kind of ruins those, and even there, you'll hear that it's rude to hit on women (and honestly that sounds awkward as shit anyways). Parties are out because of COVID too. The one remaining thing might be …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:32 AM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:10 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:54 PM
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14. Interesting take: It's not worth it because a relationship with a woman won't actually add much to your life. The most based take. Like, think about it logically for once. What does a relationship actually add to one's life, male or female? Is there any actual improvement or benefit it'd offer that's worth all the effort and cost? Sure, it prevents loneliness and offers companionship, but we have friends and family for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:54 AM
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Ding ding ding ding. Holy shit, this guy gets it. Yes, it fucking sucks that people can't afford houses, but... in honesty, that's the way it always was for most of history. The late 1900s in the West (white picket fence era) were an outlier. You're spot on about the extended families thing, in much of the world, it's just simply normal to live in a home with your whole extended family. Far as I can tell, it's uniquely modern and western to kick kids out at 18 and expect to have your own home in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 07:02 AM
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I feel like that description meets a lot of people though, do you go around wanting to beat all of them up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 03:20 AM
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Even I want to kick his ass Sounds like you're a shitty person if you want to beat up random people because of their voice, tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:28 AM
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I love it when people do that. Proves you really got on their nerves lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:27 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 09:20 PM
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TIL. Pretty sure there are other religions who do take vows of celibacy, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:48 PM
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And just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it so. There is no logical reason for it to be important. Humans need food and water because we'll die if we don't get them. Humans need companionship to avoid going crazy. I don't see any evidence that we "need" sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:47 PM
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I do get your point. It's definitely not trivial. But it's just not all that important. Humans have gone without sex, like I said, monks and hermits, Newton died a virgin, or something. Others in this thread have argued the "biological need to reproduce" thing but I don't think it necessarily works out that way - as long as one is supporting their community/family/relatives, their genes still get passed on, since their relatives are more likely to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:36 AM
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more pointing out that we think we are so advanced and yet give in to our urges all the time That's definitely fair... Its gaslighting to say its not a big deal because well it is for people (some more than others) and trying to ignore your urges can lead to mental anguish. And I suppose that's also fair, sort of. Eh. I totally see your point but I still think it's kind of a quitting attitude, for lack of a better term. If some guy is really fat and addicted to cheetos we just tell him "dude jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:57 AM
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But a lot of people do manage to ignore the urge to eat, and as a result, lose weight. It's totally possible. I don't disagree that there is an urge, I just think "the gaslighting that u see from people trying to tell you its not a big deal at all" is... an overexaggeration? Or just a bit of a weird statement overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:41 AM
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Yes they do, that's the entire point of gay uncle theory. Otherwise nobody would be gay, it'd be evolutionarily selected against. It is, of course, just a theory, and not even one with much scientific proof. It very well could be wrong. But it makes a good bit of logical sense, and is interesting to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:04 AM
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This definitely seems really fake. Also, fuck, man, their voices are annoying. This audio turned me into a woman hater /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 05:58 AM
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Its evolutionary trait, we need to reproduce to pass our genetic code The Gay Uncle Theory would kind of disprove this. We don't necessarily need to reproduce to pass on our genes, we just need to support our family/community so that our relatives pass on the genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 05:54 AM
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I mean... it's not a big deal. It's hardly gaslighting. It's not as big a deal as food or water, which are both required for life. Sure we have the natural urge to do it, but you'd hope humans are advanced enough that we can get over lame urges like that, and many throughout history have (monks, hermits, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 05:51 AM
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It happens, but it’s extremely looked down upon As an American that sounds pretty much like how it is here... I don't really have any friends I can think of, male nor female, who rapidly "date around" or sleep around like people say it is on this sub. IDK. Maybe they just don't admit it publicly. It's heavily dependent on your location, culture, friend group, etc, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:52 AM
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social gatherings ... and group activities Do gyms count as group activities? I've heard plenty of times that people don't want to be hit on in the gym. Or how about social clubs? You hear people say pretty often "dude she just wants to hike / play board games / learn to cook / etc / etc she's not here to get hit on". So it seems social clubs are dying out too. Which leaves entertainment venues. AKA bars and clubs, I guess. For now, at least. trying to get to her class/job And there the slippery…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:08 AM
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I feel like you're still missing their point. Of course nobody actually says that, or even consciously thinks that. But if we constantly push the idea that asking people out in "real life" (work, school, gym, clubs, etc) is annoying or creepy, then that pretty much only leaves bars/clubs and online. I know you keep saying that internet != IRL and that people are fine with being asked out "in real life", but IDK, I just don't really buy that. Hundreds of comments online aren't worth nothing... an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:00 AM
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Not having an SO is basically not having human contact altogether That seems like a bit of an exaggeration? You won't have intimate contact, but duh, that's a given. As for hugs, you still have family, and honestly, close friends often still hug each other, if perhaps not in a family-ish way. Never done a classic manly hug? As for complements, I feel like that's changing, guy friends are more likely to complement each other nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:39 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:58 PM
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People aren’t trying to understand or empathize with each other. Instead it’s like “wow, you’re different! Block/censor/ghost! I feel like this ties into the classic Redditism of "ugh they're toxic, cut them out of your life bro" whenever a partner, friend, or family member does some slightly objectionable thing. Sometimes it seems as though compromise and negotiation is dead. Someone doesn't wash the dishes, or plays too much video games, or votes for the wrong party, or says something that hur…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:45 PM
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I'm fucking dying IDK why but this comment has great copypasta energy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:11 AM
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two parent households Two-parent households are rising IIRC
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 10:34 PM
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five nice dress shirts I literally don't know what "nice" looks like here, tbh. Also I feel like modern fashion is past dress shirts but maybe I'm wrong on that. Start going out every Friday and Sat. Go out where? Cut your hair well. Also don't know what "well" looks like. Talk to people, even if it's just men. Try to meet women. Well, done, I'm not antisocial. Lol. I know and talk to plenty of men and women. Just trying to give you some perspective. I'm not trying to be a dick or preach to you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:14 AM
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Why take it so serious? Gallows humor / dark humor has always been a thing. Plus, what's the big deal? Lots to do in life other than sex/relationships, and life can suck in many others ways, this is a pretty tame way for it to suck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:01 PM
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But yeah...it's insane to me that a 22 year old virgin isn't buying the best clothes he can find and basically living in clubs and bars I'm about that age (just a bit over) and I don't know what good clothes look like, and I don't really know what to do in clubs and bars. Your attitude is a bit unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:59 PM
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... are you OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:42 PM
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What part of "social recluses who are afraid of social interaction" did you miss The fact that it took you like five posts to ram this concept into this dude's head lol. I truly don't get it. Is it really that hard to understand that there are women who are socially awkward/reclusive? Like yeah it's rare but how can people deny that it exists, I guess some people just don't interact with these types of girls at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:40 PM
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I don't. Maybe it's not the norm but I at least wanted to post to prove we exist, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:32 PM
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This post speaks to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:11 PM
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While I get the general point you're trying to make Did you know that in the old days, farmers spent almost half the year off waiting for the yields or waiting for the season to change to plant their crops? They didn't just sit around doing nothing. This was pre-industrial. They had to make their own tools or walk to go buy tools (no cars or hardware stores), they had to cook (no grocery stores), go get water (no pipes), teach and care for children (no public schools or daycares), repair their h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:05 PM
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Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:59 PM
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Great theory, but then why are they still going on dates if they are sure the chances are <0%?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:49 PM
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Having people in society who are isolated, lack connection and solid community are overall a social liability. There is a strain economically as well as socially. That and people desire human connection. It's best to have a society who is socially/pyschologically healthy to be able to press forward and maintain cohesion so that we can continue to grow and have a good safe life. And more importantly I don't like seeing men or women suffer. Mental health is a serious issue, something that's becomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:13 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:06 AM
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Is that all you care about? No. I'm just saying that "god/nature created humans perfectly" is a pretty weird stance when humans are filled with flaws. I'm not convinced that we can manufacture anything better than humans within our lifetimes, but how on earth are humans "perfect"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:43 PM
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I got married because I was in love with said girlfriend and it wasn't so I can be her food provider and protector while she was the food cooker and baby maker. Fucking based. This sub is fun to read but sometimes I feel like you all get carried away with all the weird-ass evolutionary and biological arguments. Is it that crazy to you all that sometimes people just like each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:47 AM
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Nature created women perfectly. How? Human beings have a ton of flaws. I can imagine high-tech sex dolls being more attractive than the average person. It's extremely speculative but I don't see why you'd assume it's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:43 AM
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Just read through this. I think you and I are basically in agreement 100% lol. Like I said I'm just glad to see someone else noticing/talking about this stuff... bummer that we're sitting down here a few layers deep in a 2-day-old thread where nobody else will see this convo. But oh well. But it's a level of risk aversion that causes more harm than good. I guess that really is what it all boils down to in the end. Risk aversion isn't bad or illogical. From "stranger danger" to not wanting to tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:42 AM
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That's over the top. The solution is simple, just raise the next generation better - keep them off social media and stop the "stranger danger" parenting. Can the current generation be fixed? Meh. Doubt it, TBH. We're not that fucked anyways, yet, but if we don't fix our parenting habits soon, newer generations will get progressively worse. Thankfully, most modern parents seem to be aware of the dangers of social media. I'm not super hopeful that we'll stop the helicopter parenting / "stranger da…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:18 PM
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Now I see people go to bars, and stay in their little circle they came with, and never talk to anyone else, and I can see why. Yep. Obviously I have nothing to back this up with, but just intuitively, I think that's spot on. People have this deeply rooted fear of strangers. The few people who I know who fearlessly talk with strangers do a lot better socially (not just romantically, but in general), for obvious reasons, and generally seem happier. Not to get incelly but what annoys me is that som…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:02 PM
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Ding ding ding. Holy shit. Glad to see someone else finally bringing this up. I think the "stranger danger" parenting of the 90s and 2000s has a huge part to play in why younger generations are so socially fucked. I personally think it's second place to internet addition/obsession but it's still significant. Lol, just a few days ago I was complaining about how there's a prevailing opinion among Redditors that merely talking to someone in a grocery store or on public transit makes you creepy or p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:50 PM
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The point of every living organism is to reproduce It is not. The point is to continue the species. If you're helping your community reproduce and survive then you're winning (see Gay Uncle Theory, for example). So as long as you make some contribution to humanity, like science or art or just being productive or just sharing happy experiences with friends, then you're fulfilling your "point" as a living, intelligent organism
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:40 AM
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Lol yeah this would definitely be me Minus the nice part
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:36 AM
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I'm not saying family's not very important and rewarding, I'm just saying it's not that there's "nothing to live for" without it. Also, I think the central point is "the people around them". Just others to share your life with and help and be helped by them. You can use friends for that purpose, doesn't have to be romantic partners or family
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:25 PM
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Anything you can accomplish, only feels better when you have a supportive family or family you want to support I mean... sure. That's a good point, and yeah, having a partner/family is a plus (for most people). But doesn't mean that there's "literally nothing to live for" without it. Ice cream is best with a cherry on top. Doesn't mean that if the ice cream place runs out of cherries I run away and go "fuck, no point in even living if I can't get the cherry on top"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:22 PM
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what can we do? Nothing much to this generation (my generation) but maybe we can make the next one better and less socially anxious. Parents should be getting kids off of their phones limiting their time on the Internet. We should do away with the whole "stranger danger" parenting style and, at the risk of sounding stereotypical, have kids play outside again. I'm not an expert on this, obviously, but I think a lot of the root issues with dating and romance in my generation really just stem from …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:47 AM
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People understood court and communicate for hundreds of thousands of years—without being taught. Yes... they used to for thousands of years... and now more and more of them are not understanding it. Is that not the whole issue we're talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:43 AM
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rather short sighted to see 25% of men having literally nothing to live for (family) Though I usually roughly agree with this line of thinking, you don't think it's a bit much to say that there's nothing to live for other than family? IDK, art and literature, athleticism, travel, science, or just collecting fucktons of wealth... lots of shit you can accomplish in the world and leave a mark on it, why always the focus on family
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:39 AM
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I think it's obvious there's something else causing that... you don't magically get a lower sperm count from dressing feminine or looking like a k-pop guy lol. As the parent comment says this has happened plenty of times throughout history, this isn't really new
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 04:22 PM
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I’m nowhere near a boomer Oh I know, I was just referring to how Reddit describes everyone old as a "boomer"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 06:02 PM
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So the kid can spend the next 75 years as a bachelor? No wife, kids? That's a miserable existence. I don't see what's all that miserable about it. Plenty of people have been bachelors for life, hell, there's a Wikipedia page on it. Humans need companionship, I have friends and family for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 07:28 AM
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There is an entire younger generation who I think are “socially and sexually autistic” Ding ding ding. Glad someone brought this up. Before someone disparages this guy's post as a boomer not understanding the younger generation or whatever, I'm 24, I am a part of that younger generation. And just as a "layman's perspective" it seems to me like my generation, myself included, is a bit fucked. We've grown up on our phones and on the Internet, we're super socially anxious and socially distant (no p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 07:24 AM
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Absolutely. 100%. I can't even comment on this since I'm an incel but like. Do you guys use the rest of the Internet? Do you talk to humans in real life? 90% of people don't do this dating theory stuff, they either just chill on an online dating app or - surprise - meet people in real life who they enjoy hanging out with, and then they form a relationship with them, because they like the person. Most shit I see on this sub is insanely overanalytical. As I've said before, you guys make everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 07:09 AM
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I would be an awful partner. OK maybe that's exaggeration, I would be pretty mediocre, maybe on the lower end. In any case that's part of the reason why I avoid relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:39 AM
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"Game" in the red pill context (especially here?) usually implies learning skills specifically to get sex or a girlfriend/wife. That sounds kinda lame and boring compared to the approach mentioned by /u/Simple-Craft-9577, which as far as I can tell, just boils down to living life, having fun, and meeting cool people, without necessarily focusing on how to optimize your chances of getting laid. You do have a valid point though, sometimes socialization needs to be learned. Still, from my personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:26 PM
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Agreed, to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 11:51 PM
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The other guy pointed it out well in this comment. It sounds like it worked for him. If you want to learn "game" that's totally fine. Some of us could not care less and would find that sort of pursuit to be really depressing. We prefer actually developing connections and friendships with people. Sex is not a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:41 PM
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I agree completely, but then why are you berating others for doing it our way?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:58 PM
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Long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:08 PM
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or, you can develop skills and make a plan so that you improve If you want to do that, go ahead, but that sounds to me like a dreadfully boring and depressing way to go about life. I "develop skills" and make improvement plans for my career or competitive video games or something, not for regular old socialization...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:00 PM
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I mean. Yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:53 AM
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I'm actually ten please stop insulting me my dad works for reddit But for real stop calling people "sweetie", it genuinely sounds braindead. What's next, are you gonna call me "oh sweet summer child"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 08:03 AM
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This guy gets it Why would I put effort into a relationship? Porn exists for sex, friends exist for companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 07:12 AM
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sweetie Cringe reddit moment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 07:02 AM
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Standards can be whatever you want, honestly. The one "unreasonably high standard" I complain about is when people don't give others a second chance. I have no bigger pet peeve than the classic reddit, FDS, /r/relationshipadvice type of advice, "omg he/she did this one annoying thing, leave them right now, no second chances, just run, red flag red flag" Give people second chances. Don't ruin months-long relationships just because of a one-time annoyance. Learn how to talk out relationships inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 06:55 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 01:26 AM
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I like talking shit all the time and being shat-talk'd to. It's funny and enjoyable and has never really harmed me much. Women are annoyingly positive in contrast, lol Not saying you should tell your date she's ugly though, that's just rude. There's a line between playful shittalking and simple rudeness. Basic social skills, which some guys don't have, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 07:50 PM
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So "doormat", then. I get your point but sheesh I wish we could get rid of all this unnecessarily gendered meme terminology. None of this is exclusive to women nor to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 07:48 PM
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I was joking... obviously it's not literally only Chads. Not that "Chads" are even a real thing, I thought that gave it away as a half-joke. But my half-not-joking point stands, you do definitely know a lot more promiscuous people than most do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:21 PM
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I don't really get how that answers it. If you have a significant proportion of friends who are getting "fuckbuddies" and "threesomes" on a regular basis, then you're an outlier lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:58 PM
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Good point. Yeah that doesn't fit the men I know at all, lol. I know maaaybe one singular guy who can get fuckbuddies or threesomes and even he has a LOT of trouble with it, it's not just some kind of trivial thing - hell it might have even just been him bragging / making shit up. Most men I know do have girlfriends, and I suppose maybe I know a few who choose to be virgins, plus some who are "incels" (by the technical definition, not the community definition) Yeah /u/LillthOfBabylon they have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:38 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:34 AM
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I have a friend who always got approached by women because they wanted him. Is your friend's name Chad Thundercock? I'm sorry, but as you say 99%, I claim this is just not the reality for 99% of men, lol. The overwhelming majority of the time, men are the ones who are expected to initiate relationships as of 2021. I have honestly never heard anyone, on this sub or elsewhere, claim that men should just wait around for women to approach them. If anything, I think the more common stereotypical advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:32 AM
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Maybe readjust your humor to better accommodate your female coworkers! No. Also wait for women to approach you or give you consent to approach them. Great theory, but men are the ones who are "supposed" to initiate the relationship literally 99% of the time. You're pretty much asking for women to be the ones to ask men out. That'd be cool, but that's not how it works right now, and I don't really see any mainstream progress towards that They meet their partners through mutual friend and acquaint…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 12:36 AM
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Doesn’t matter what used to happen in the past. Plenty of people still have relationships. Ask them what they did to get their relationship if online isn’t working out for you. That's not really a useful answer lol... I'm asking YOU what you think people should do to get relationships nowadays? I'm not saying it's impossible, I just think it's a tad bit depressing that it has been relegated purely to online dating and bars, and we'll see how long even bars last... Why would you want to sabotage …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:03 PM
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Wait nvm. Are you trolling or genuinely just this much of a stereotypical capitalistic worker drone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:36 AM
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What's wrong with his point? Plenty of good relationships/marriages have started at work. It's a little bit depressing to me that the only "acceptable" places to ask people out are now bars/clubs and online dating. Remove bars (which is feasible, I've heard people complain about being asked out in bars) and we're left with just online dating; that's dystopian as fuck, lol, the only socially-accepted way to get a relationship is through the almighty algorithm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:35 AM
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When people aren't in abusive relationships and everyone is wondering why they are single Isn't that... exactly what's going on? Sexlessness is rising (for both genders). Loneliness is rising. Marriage rates are down, as we've said. "Where are all the good men" is a common complaint on womens' side. I don't think this is exactly attributable to super high standards, but I also don't really think most peoples' are too low. I obviously don't enjoy the rest of the relationship if I'm willing to lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 06:29 PM
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Since marriage was invented? True. But marriage has massively gone down in popularity recently. And this doesn't account for other relationships where people have trust and loyalty - such as friendships, like I said. Do you really think it's safe for women to just give men the benefit of the doubt? Depends what you mean by benefit of the doubt? Like the other guy said, nobody is claiming that people should just let their partner hit them because it's benefit of the doubt, we're talking about mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 05:50 PM
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I guess that is where we disagree. Since when are loyalty and trust limited to married relationships? Or giving you the benefit of the doubt? Those are just common courtesies that I extend to all my friends who I've known well for more than, say, a month or two - why wouldn't I extend the same courtesies to a romantic partner? people need to be primarily concerned for their own welfare which means not giving the benefit of the doubt to someone Don't really see the connection. You can still care …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 05:07 PM
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Can you be more specific about what you mean by "duties"? Are you talking about my last paragraph, or what? Again, I'm just really confused what's up with your fixation on marriage / "wife", especially in an era where most people aren't even getting married. But I don't understand where "duties" even come into play for all the stuff I've been talking about (It would help if you answered the question in my last paragraph...)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 04:16 PM
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You don't think there's any point where you are a monogamous couple but not necessarily married? Last I heard, most people aren't getting married nowadays. I'm just confused, why the fixation on marriage Also, "that’s when it is safe to put the needs of the couple ahead of your individual needs"? Confused by what you mean here... I guess it depends on your definition of putting others' needs ahead of yours, but you can do nice stuff to cater to other people's needs without putting them "ahead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 05:38 AM
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Dating is learning about someone. You should try to learn bad things about them and vet them out so you don't get emotionally attached to someone you are incompatible with. Agreed, nicely said If you're that committed after 6 months, wouldn't you have asked for committment? And then you have expressly made a loyalty pact. If you're not committed, then what is the problem? That's just dating. I don't really get what you're trying to say here though. What do you mean by loyalty pact?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 04:29 AM
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How is a person you're dating "just some random guy"? I think I get your point, which is that if a person is very needy or demonstrates obvious problems very early on in the relationship, like first few weeks, then it's usually a good choice to leave them. What annoys me is when people are like "oh I've been dating this person for six months, but recently they started not doing the dishes" and the comments are all "wow there's no point OP, it's done for, leave him/her now". IDK about you but six…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:47 AM
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I thought we were talking about someone you're in a relationship with (either casual or long-term), not just random people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 02:35 AM
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I mean, fair enough. That's your approach. I still think it's way overreacting to break up a relationship just because one has a "bad feeling" about how someone treats them. When I have a bad feeling about someone, I work it out with them, and they either stop doing it or they refuse to stop doing it, and in the latter case I leave them. (Or mostly I just ignore it, tbh). But that's personal choice. My only real issue is people (mostly on Reddit) pushing others to abandon their relationships bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:43 AM
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Perhaps I should clarify what I'm trying to say here... again: "we're talking here about someone liking video games or forgetting to wash the dishes or saying something bad about asexuality". Do you really think that stuff like that is a sign that someone is an "abuser"? And for what it's worth, I'm not limiting my statement to romantic relationships, it also bugs me when Redditors do this for friendships or family relationships. But I realize you were (I think?) being specific to romantic relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:01 AM
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OK. Sure. A minor sign of them disrespecting you could be an indicator that they plan to step it up. It could also be a simple mistake on their part, or they could be having a bad day. Why do such a rash decision over a single inconvenient action? To remind you, as /u/VoiceOfTheMillenium said, we're talking here about someone liking video games or forgetting to wash the dishes or saying something bad about asexuality... This is pretty inconsequential stuff. In all honesty, this sort of attitude …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:31 PM
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Sure, but it depends what you define as "abusive relationships". OP was describing people recommending to ghost others for making minor mistakes. /u/WeAreTheAggies puts it pretty well above: Depends on what we're calling a red flag these days. Obviously, things like abusive, violent, disgusting, or criminal behavior or being unfaithful are good reasons for immediately ending it and calling the police if appropriate. But what if it's something as harmless as liking video games or forgetting to wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:50 AM
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Because it's easy to impulsively say that on the Internet. It feels good, it's a quick, decisive action. And usually people make that "recommendation" off of limited, one-sided evidence. Someone comes online and rants about a person, without saying any of their good traits (and why should they?), of course it's going to sound like the obvious choice is "move on, leave them, they're all bad and no good". In any case, you're based for acknowledging this, thanks for this post. This is like my #1 Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:46 AM
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Ah, OK
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 12:31 AM
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he became very dependant on me and would threaten to kill himself if i left him This is my personal nightmare. Sorry you had to endure that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 12:11 AM
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... isn't the typical statistic that 30% of men are sexless?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 12:01 AM
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Look I love trolling on Reddit but just take the L and troll better next time. This is just bitter and annoying to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:27 AM
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I mean... yes I agree with you, more or less. I'm not saying incels are totally normal. But you really think that not having love and companionship your whole life is something you should just accept? Obviously they'd feel bitter about it. Yeah they shouldn't obsess over it, but it's completely understandable to be bitter about it, even if others aren't affected that much. The main thing I disagree with was your idea of "free prostitution would solve everything, and if prostitution doesn't help …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:08 AM
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Is it that hard of a concept to understand that people are bitter because they can't find genuine love and companionship? Hell I would argue they're much more mentally fucked if simple prostitution takes them from mental anguish and depression to being perfectly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:52 AM
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Seriously? I mean I like this place, it's fun to hang around in. But "the most sane place"? Quite frankly, you guys realize that the majority of people live normal, happy lives, having normal relationships, without resorting to the clinical, overanalytical mindsets and general doomerisms that are so common on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:48 AM
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It's just impossible to deal with a lack of sex in that environment at that age when you are at your horniest. That's a bit of a generalization, it's not "impossible". I got through college and graduated fine without having sex. Many of my friends did as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:26 AM
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That's good. I wish you the best of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 09:43 AM
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No? You can. You just might not enjoy it without developing thicker skin. I'm plenty sensitive in real life too. I'm not sensitive online. It's very freeing. There's a billion retards like me on the Internet, why would you care what any of us says to you? Maybe the Internet in general isn't hurtful (at least not today) but PPD is explicitly a debate sub, if there's any place to be brutally honest, this is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 09:05 AM
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I'm confused by what you mean. My stance of "thinking that calling yourself a king or queen is stupid" won't hurt anyone in real life, because I won't tell it to anyone, I'll just keep it to myself. It might hurt you or other people on PPD, because I will say it on PPD, and I'm sorry if it did hurt you, but in fairness, it's the Internet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Thick skin is a requirement Does that clarify my position lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:50 AM
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How? Like I said, I wouldn't actually tell anyone IRL that I find their delusions stupid. I only said so in this thread because, I mean, anything goes on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:38 AM
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It doesn't. It's just human instinct to reject delusional thoughts or behavior. Not like it's hurting anyone for me to think something is stupid. I'm not gonna go up to someone and call them stupid, I'm just gonna think it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:18 AM
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Fair enough. I respect your viewpoint and your tolerance but if that's bullying then I'll gladly be a bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:11 AM
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I don't have to like it, correct. I don't control anyone's thoughts nor actions. I can still think it's stupid, though. If I find that referring to myself as "easement5 glorious master of the universe" and thinking that I am the greatest creature to ever walk the earth is helpful for me, great, but you wouldn't find that stupid at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 08:09 AM
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What do you mean by treating themselves better? How do people mistreat themselves today I just don't like when people call themselves "kings" or "queens" or whatever. It sounds silly and cheap. I'm not a king, I'm just a regular-ass guy. All of us are. Your opinion on someone’s worth isn’t more right than mine. Correct & based
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 11:08 PM
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No, I agree, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 11:01 PM
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Nothing wrong w thinking you are a queen Except for the delusionality I wish men treated themselves like kings Fuuuck no
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 10:06 AM
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'Virginity problem' doesn't exist so it can't be solved. Actual problem is loneliness and undesirableness. BASED. One of the few people on this sub who admits this, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 10:00 AM
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No one is obligated to find you attractive. Why do people constantly use that rebuttal? Nobody is saying there should be an "obligation" whatever that's supposed to mean (well, except the people who want state mandated GFs or whatever, idk). We're just saying it's an unfortunate situation. Is complaining about the general state of the world not allowed anymore? It's a very basic human activity tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:41 AM
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Yeah how has nobody else mentioned this haha. What's going on here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:38 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 02:26 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 10:10 AM
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Yes, absolutely. Because they have the same issue that runs rampant among the whole "manosphere" or "pill sphere" or "sexual discussion forum sphere" whatever you want to call it. Places like PPD, basically. They all treat dating, relationships, love, romance, etc. as an optimization problem. Something that you have to solve, optimize, and clean up to get the most efficient route to the best result for yourself. Little care for the other person, just a mad overanalytical, clinically-minded dash …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 06:22 AM
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Don't wanna come up as an incel, but i still think looks matter more than we think. You say that as if it's not the dominant opinion on this sub... :p IDK. I have no evidence or anything, just based on what I've seen from people, I have a gnawing suspicion that it's the other way around, incels and incel-y people immediately assume looks are the problem, but social awkwardness matters more than we think. Like I said I have no evidence to prove this. It's just kind of my personal opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:06 PM
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I agree. Keep in mind social anxiety and social awkwardness plays a part in "unattractiveness", alongside typical physical unattractiveness (probably what you were talking about)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 08:11 PM
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What is up with your typing/punctuation dude are you on a 1800s telegram or something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:43 AM
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Because most people actually care about large-scale societal problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:36 AM
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Odd, I remember seeing a different graph, but I can't find it now. What's your theory for the driving force behind this then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 07:34 PM
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TRP is reminding guys of their value and to stop investing in loser women and getting nothing in return. Instead, you should be cautious and actively vet women for red flags. Lol, it's really funny how FDS is blatantly equivalent to TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 10:15 AM
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The rate for women also increased. I say this on practically every thread, I'm glad someone also said it here. It's obvious to me that the problem with sexlessness is not "us boys not getting laid because women are evil hurr durr" the problem is that people are in general having less relationships. Engaging in less risky behaviors. Being more lonely. Mistrusting strangers more. And yes, having less sex. And the problem with this isn't some sort of "incel uprising" fantasy, it's simply that the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 08:42 AM
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We'll have to agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 08:38 AM
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Well sure if they keep on bringing it up then that's a little alarming. OP framed it as if they just bought it up once more after you said no once. But in any case, we're talking about this in the context of an already existing relationship. Surely the proper response should be confronting your partner about the issue and getting them to stop doing whatever, not immediate "dissolution of the relationship". Obviously a lot less benefit of the doubt is given if there's not already an existing rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 08:54 AM
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I mean. Sure. That's your choice. I'd imagine any relationship I'd have would be pretty short-lived if I was willing to end it over stuff that, from my perspective, seems pretty trivial... but it's your choice in the end. I just fail to see what's bad about "your partner bringing up sex acts you said you didn’t want to do" or "talking badly about one of your friends". These are such minor events that I don't see how you can draw any conclusions from it. For the former, do you intend that every t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:24 PM
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Yeah IDK if I buy that... should people not be able to make mistakes? Everything you mentioned there sounds completely like a "workable disagreement", with the exception of physically pressuring you into sex acts. I'm not saying everyone has to be a pushover but what on earth is wrong with having a "workable disagreement" and voicing your concern. In a good relationship you'll be able to work out such things and either your partner will stop doing it, they'll justify it and you'll understand it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:34 PM
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I mean, sure, agreed. But what does this "more cautious" approach actually look like for you? Most people you're already intimate with, you're already in their house/apartment fully opened up to them. That's kind of the whole nature of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:25 AM
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I'm not saying it should be used as a successful defense? Judges who actually accept that are retarded. Yeah Brock Turner should be in jail, that much is common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:24 AM
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Society has always blamed the women for not being better behaved and "getting themselves" raped, when we should be blaming the rapists. Man, people always say this. You realize we can blame both, right? Like yeah obviously rapists deserve to go to jail (I'd be down for the death penalty tbh but that has its own issues). But you can also acknowledge that people need to take actions to protect themselves. Like maybe not going out and getting excessively drunk and going alone to apartments of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 11:58 PM
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But being overly cautious will never be bad advice for women. Neuroticism isn't necessarily a good thing. Of course we should all be cautious and aware (don't get too drunk when out by yourself, don't go walking through bad neighborhoods, don't be excessively polite, don't be afraid to say "no", etc). But of course there is such a thing as being too overly cautious. The safest possible life would consist of staying inside 24/7 but, well, that's not a life worth living. Some women on the Internet…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 11:54 PM
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Altruism will merely sets up one for material failure and suffering. Well I'm glad I don't have your outlook on life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 09:46 AM
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Look at how reliable workers are called wage cuck slaves, you think that's gonna incentivize more people to be good workers? You think calling step fathers cucks will encourage more males to step up? You say this as if this is common in society in general. "Wage cuck slaves" is only a thing in weird Reddit or 4chan bubbles lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 04:15 PM
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Dang, this question really gets posted on here every week at the least, huh? It's not an issue of 30% of men being sexless, it's an issue of both men and women lacking relationships. And it's not a catastrophe, it's just sad and will lead to more depression and loneliness, and so we should try to solve it or at least talk about it. I'll just repost my answer from the last time lol: Main point is, it's not clear to me that it's an issue of men being sexless. Charts show both male and female virgi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 07:04 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:38 PM
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Yandere Dev isn't ugly Wait, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:28 PM
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Isn't it obvious? The violence. Don't men commit something like 80% or 90% of crimes? Men are overrepresented in rape and domestic violence cases as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:26 PM
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For men, well, there's this meme. Gunning straight for wizard-dom rn, excited to get my magic powers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 08:46 AM
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Lmao. I really hope you're trolling, in which case, nice work. But in the 0.1% chance that you're serious, please look into therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 10:33 PM
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Enough to do what? Have a majority? Probably, yeah. But if you're so confident that it's not a majority, then why are you in favor of deplatforming/silencing everyone who espouses the minority opinion? What are you so worried about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 08:47 PM
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Sure. But half your comments aren't saying that. They just have this weird (and slightly concerning) gloating tone saying stuff like "lol won't be able to voice it in polite society anymore" "will now be silenced and deplatformed" So it seems that a lot of people do agree with her. It's just that the people and companies in control of the media are pushing for anyone who agrees with her to be silenced and deplatformed. Interesting, huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 08:30 PM
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I mean, you posted it in a different comment: Massive demographic changes have been foisted upon the American people and they’re changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us don’t like. Her point seems pretty simple. Lots of us don't like abrupt demographic changes and would prefer keeping the country as it currently is without bringing in more immigrants. Not much to argue there, people just don't like demographic shifts. In any case I can't really argue for her because I don't agree w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 08:25 PM
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Your comments seem to be 70% just saying "well now you can't agree with them because [x] haha", 30% other assorted stuff, and 0% actually disproving what she said
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 07:11 PM
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This is very true, and I agree, except (a) not everyone who disagrees with "the left" is a delusional far-right racist and (b) you still do have to convince people. The center/moderates, in particular. Swing states, baby. We won Georgia because enough moderates and apolitical people disliked the Republicans that they tilted the scales to the Democrat side. But more so my issue is with the tone of comments like "we're the future, your future." Sounds like people who say this stuff are just fantas…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 07:09 PM
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Why do you people keep making comments like this in this thread? "Better get used to it" "We're the future" Almost like you don't actually care about convincing anyone that you're correct, you just care about becoming the majority and then causing pain to those who you dislike. Look at that, conservatives and progressives are more similar than we would have thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:49 AM
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It seems to me that the real issue is which "side" the protest is on, not the ethnicity of the protestors. Glad someone said this, because it's pretty obvious. Left-wing protestors protest against cops, so the cops are more brutal against them. Right-wing protestors are usually assumed to be supporting cops, so the cops like them. It's a bit fucked but it's really not surprising, and quite a bit more logical than the idea that every cop in America and at the capitol (including plenty of black co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:48 AM
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Huh seems like she's got a point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:45 AM
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... are you OK? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:39 AM
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Because some aspects of the past were nice? Economically, it's hard to beat the state of the US post-WWII. Affordable college, affordable housing, well-paying jobs. Mostly because the rest of the world had just spent a decade getting bombed, so uh, that helps. But from the US's perspective it was a nice time. And also because the media idolized/idolizes the past. Media back then only really showed the good parts, the happy suburban family of the 60s or the cool dancing teenagers of the 80s. So n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:38 AM
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... why are you framing this as some sort of grand battle for the fate of the universe? I'm actually not a conservative, but I act like one on Reddit because it's fun. And I do support some conservative values because they make sense logically/morally. So it's enjoyable to advocate for them. If others disagree, oh well, so be it. Doesn't really make a huge difference to me. Why are you acting like it's the end of the world for conservative supporters if they "lose"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:35 AM
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Still not following you. If a significant portion of men are feeling depressed because of this, then why would we not try to solve it? Men aren't some fringe group, this is 50% of the population. It's pretty feasible that men and women are literally biologically different, and that's why they react differently to this. To reuse your example, if a lot of black people are committing crime, that's still an issue that we try to solve, either by lifting them out of poverty or by instituting better ed…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:49 PM
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This is true, yeah, and that's a good point. I guess men and women just approach these situations differently, men "check out" while women (I assume) fall back on other friends and relationships such as careers. And we should encourage men to do more of the latter. But I think "just ignore them because women handle it better" is a silly take. If a significant portion of men are having this issue (up to 20% or so apparently?) then we should try to solve it. That's a lot of depressed and lonely pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:19 AM
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Says "I won't" and then proceeds to state a bunch of perfectly good ways to address it... ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 01:44 AM
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Sexlessness is typically associated with loneliness, and more loneliness means more depression. Why wouldn't we try to solve this? A good portion of society (see half i.e. women) apparently can keep being active citizens without being giant coombrains Not sure what you mean by that. Aren't rates of male and female sexlessness approximately neck-to-neck, with both rising in recent years, and mens' being slightly higher than womens'?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 01:41 AM
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This is an individual problem, not a social one This is a take that I see all the time on these questions and it's a silly one. If a problem affects a large portion of society, then it is a societal problem. You may decide not to solve it on a societal level, but it's still a societal problem. Lots of people (of both genders, btw) becoming sexless will increase the rates of loneliness and depression. I don't want to live in that society, therefore it makes sense to at least discuss the issue, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 01:39 AM
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I've posted about this pretty often before. Main point is, it's not clear to me that it's an issue of men being sexless. Charts show both male and female virginity and sexlessness trending up over time, granted the male increase is a bit steeper, but still, both are rising. I don't know the answer, but intuitively, I don't think this is some gender war / gender relations shit so much as it's just a general issue of society being more lonely and disconnected. The main issues in my opinion are soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 01:27 AM
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Based as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:49 PM
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What? I can't even understand what you're trying to say here, man. Is this just nihilism or what? Yes, we all die someday. Doing good deeds to others makes them happy, and so it makes me happy because I know that I made someone else happy. I like being happy and prefer to maximize the amount of happiness in my life. Nothing more to it than that. Again, I'm not saying you should be a "simp" or do tons of work in the name of good deeds... I'm just saying that good deeds do exist and that many of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:57 PM
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Yes? I live in reality and I occasionally do nice things for people just to make them feel better. So do others around me, just because they're nice. How is that "pretend"? Sometimes good deeds are rewarded, sometimes they're not, no reason not to do 'em if you feel like it. I'm not saying you have to take your shirt off your back or donate all your earnings to charity or some shit, but simple stuff like explaining stuff to others in a class or helping your neighbor do something or, yes, moving …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:04 PM
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or what. I really hope you are. Claiming that the basic concepts of kindness and empathy are some sort of naivety and that it's not worth it to do good deeds is absolute peak sociopathic Redditry. Where TF do you people live, remind me not to move there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:16 AM
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Based comment, based username
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:15 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:14 AM
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I agree with you overall but a lot of incels have friends and still are unable to get a girlfriend. Or worse, there's people who are unable to make friends at all. I can hardly blame them for "not enjoying the beans" or whatever. I do agree with you that I have little sympathy for people who are obsessed with finding a GF / relationship but won't try to find friends or work on other aspects of their life first; relationships aren't the only important thing in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 02:08 AM
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Yes, exactly. That is the best #1 step for people who are lonely I think
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 05:22 PM
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... sorry but this is a lame-ass response. Most incels I've seen want companionship, not prostitution or a fake girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:19 AM
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I think this is an exaggerated issue. Even the people who literally call themselves incels don't talk like that, I lurk on 4chan all the time and it's not quite that bad. I'm not saying the issue doesn't exist but it's exaggerated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:17 AM
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Based I don't agree 100% with what you're saying but you're spot on that people on this sub are obsessed with "approaching" and "strategy" and such
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:16 AM
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Look👏at👏me👏I👏used👏clapping👏emojis👏like👏a👏twitter👏tard
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:14 AM
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Rapists should be shot in the head
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:06 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:03 AM
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Cuz I'm lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:06 PM
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Also consider that most MGTOW men are not necessarily celibate. Levels 1-3 of MGTOW still date and have fuck buddies but they do not get married and they don't co-habitate Sounds like the non-based levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:42 AM
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I'm not sure what can be done about it other than trying to get the next generation off of social media & internet (nothing wrong with internet usage but obviously addiction is bad), decrease neuroticism, have kids play outside more often (to use the cliche term), decrease mistrust of strangers; just a few vague ideas. I don't think this is limited to men, most sources I've seen on this show sexlessness rising for both young men and women. I think our youngest generations (my generation included…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:40 AM
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I mean, not sure what to say here. I think you're arguing against a bit of a strawman. But regardless, if you think that rising sexlessness and loneliness won't have any negative effect on society, then you're kidding yourself. I've said it time and time again, this sub deludes itself with the idea that it's some sort of gender war and that it's just "loser men" who are lonely. The stats, IIRC, show that both male and female sexlessness is rising. Both men and women are lonely. This is not a god…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:16 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:05 AM
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Yes, for sure. Asexual and similar people have been saying this for years, it's blatant and annoying how much sex is obsessed over in society. Yeah it's a "fundamental human thing" yada yada... there's plenty of things humans do that aren't related to sex or relationships, yet I feel like damn near every movie (for example) has some sort of romance plot pushed into it, lol. And WAP is garbage. It's annoyingly explicit and sounds like trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:51 AM
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I don't like any of those songs either. I really can't think of any song I've ever enjoyed that's as explicit as WAP was. It's garbage music. Why does everyone assume this is some sort of hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:49 AM
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I'm a bit unique (I think?) on this sub in that I think the sexlessness thing is mainly due to general anxiety and social awkwardness in the newer generations, and not purely due to anything specific to sex or gender relations. So I want (a) people to discuss what's causing the rising amount of sexlessness and lack of relationships, and (b) if I am proven correct and it is due to social anxiety and awkwardness, then we need to start tackling that in the next generation. Limit kids' internet usag…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:46 AM
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I think we're trying to argue separate points here... ? I'm not arguing that Norway and Sweden are socialist, I'm saying that even they have a lot of government services for the population. Norway has free healthcare. And they, like any major country, have homeless shelters and public assistance programs, so on. I'm not even saying public spending is good. I'm just saying it's an established fact that it exists in all major western countries. What is your point? That we should get rid of public …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:04 AM
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I like it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 10:45 PM
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We're getting off topic and I don't really know anything about this issue, but that just doesn't sound right to me. The highest HDI countries are Norway, Ireland, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Iceland, Germany... all countries which have capitalist economies, but with government social programs as well. Yes, it's a common myth that Western Europe and Scandinavia are some sort of leftist socialist utopias, I realize they have significant free-market capitalist economies... but it's silly to claim that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 09:59 PM
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I'm in full agreement with you, /u/Friend205. This sub is definitely way too bitter/cynical, anyone who doesn't see it is kind of kidding themselves. Just realize you're talking to a very particular subset of people, go on any "normal" subreddit or internet group and you'll see that most people (ahem - normies) see this whole RP, BP, FDS, incels, blackpill, MGTOW stuff as pretty much, like the other guy said, a joke, a trap for overly bitter people. I just stick around because it hits on some in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:26 PM
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So you want to live in ancapistan? The "charity only, no government services" model hasn't really proven to be successful anywhere. But that's unrelated. For the specific topic we're talking about, charity would be a valid, "societal-scale" way to approach these issues. I'm just saying that if a significant portion of society started experiencing these problems like OP, then it would make sense for society to react to that in some way - whether that's establishing charities, people slowly turnin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:15 PM
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Then why does welfare exist, why do homeless shelters exist, why do some countries provide free mental healthcare, why do we have mental institutions, why do PSA ads and anti-suicide campaigns exist, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 10:54 PM
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This is kind of a silly take IMO. It is society's obligation to solve problems if a significant amount of people start experiencing them. If (again, hypothetically) 20% of people were unable to "seduce a woman" then maybe we should start worrying about that and thinking about ways to solve that on a societal level, whether that means giving people dating classes, banning dating apps, idk. That said, I don't agree with OP on this, banning dating apps is a huge overreaction, lol. I'm just saying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:08 AM
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I mean, it is a societal problem if a large amount of people experience it. If (hypothetically) 20% of society is depressed because of this, then yeah, we should try to tackle that issue somehow. That said, I don't agree with OP's thing, banning dating apps is silly... I don't think it's the main issue, it's not enforceable, and I don't think a huge portion of society is depressed over dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:04 AM
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Agreed, /u/YveisGrey. I think this sub is a bit of a weird sample group because a lot of the people here are a bit sex-obsessed, in my opinion. I'm a guy, plenty of my friends seek relationships mainly for sex, but plenty also genuinely want a romantic connection. Maybe I'm naive, but whatever. If you browse the incel-adjacent places like /r/foreveralone or r9k you'll see that most people there - actually, the vast majority, I think - are complaining about loneliness and sadness, not "being enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 06:40 PM
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but they're fuck ugly and not flattering to anyone So?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 11:33 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 10:15 PM
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Sure, I'm not saying ALL their problems are caused by this. I'm just saying I feel like it's probably more common than they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 12:37 AM
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Yeeep this is pretty spot-on for me, I would probably do exactly what those guys did (minus the "nice guys" lecture) Incels really do focus a bit too much on looks and not enough on shyness / social awkwardness. I'm not trying to parrot the typical "looks don't matter focus on personality brooo", obviously looks do matter, but you get the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 09:42 PM
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That's true, lol! We'll see if that trend holds, though. AI is getting better every day...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:56 AM
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How is customer service not being replaced by AI? Self-checkout machines replaced cashiers. Automated phone response systems have replaced and will continue to replace call center workers, as they get better and better. Simple websites and software tools replaced tons of customer service representatives. What other customer service jobs are there? Genuine question, I don't really know And yeah, robots do replace warehouse workers as well. That's hardly a male-only job though. "67.9% of workers i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:22 AM
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most women work in the service industry in nursing ... "Most"? I don't think nurses make up THAT significant of a section of workers. That said, yeah, more women do work in the service industry, so you have a good point. But I think it's not a significant enough split to really say "it's mostly men that are being replaced". And keep in mind automation extends over to the information industry (I'm not really sure what the right term is), too. AI and software is going to be the real kicker; robots…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 12:13 AM
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How? I mean, first off, because more sadness in society equals more sad humans overall? Is that not a bad thing, lol? Do we not volunteer, give to charities, etc, to prevent world hunger, to stop wars, and so on? And secondly, from a purely cynical perspective, I think more depression in society is just felt even if you're not depressed yourself - if everyone you interact with is sad and lonely, you'll start to feel bummed out too. Just a theory on my part. Most people don't give a fuck about st…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 08:22 PM
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... so read the rest of the post? Lol If the rate of "losers" in society rises, that's going to lead to a lot of loneliness and depression in the "losers", which is also generally bad for everyone. I don't want to live in a society like that. Most people don't want to live in a world where their fellow men and women are lonely and depressed. It's like hearing "the suicide rate rose 300% this year" and responding with "so? not my problem, just depressed people doing depressed things". Like it's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 07:59 PM
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This is a lazy response. Call people losers if you want, the problem is that the "loser rate" is rising and doesn't really show signs of slowing down. Also, given similar responses on other threads, I feel like this is edging into the "boys vs girls" territory which permeates this sub. I'm of the opinion that the stuff OP described isn't something specific to men - it's going to happen to both men and women, and the former (less people working good jobs+skills) is caused by rising automation, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:12 PM
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I'm not convinced that it's a problem of "engaging with society" in general. As others said, unemployment was fine before COVID. People have jobs, they just have worse quality jobs, and that'll keep happening due to automation. As for learning new skills, I'm not sure about that one, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's declining? Abstaining from relationships is a thing, though. Though, I've read a bit about this topic on this sub and something that always irks me is that it's always men v…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:05 PM
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Figured I wasn't alone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:29 AM
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No idea. That's just me. I find any sort of body modification / paint / etc kinda disgusting. It's not rational, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 11:28 PM
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That sub really is beyond parody. I'm convinced half the users are trolls trying to make women look bad for whatever reason. The illustrator has to be some ugly single that's projecting his own scarce cleanliness on women. Recall that the illustrator is a semi-famous cartoonist working for one of the most well-known publications in the US... Like, who are you again? https://old.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/k5wd12/this_ridiculous_new_yorker_cover_is_supposed_to/gehapt4/ This literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:05 AM
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Not sure why everyone in this thread is talking about some weird personality / psychology / sociology stuff. I just find them ugly, lol. No offense or disrespect intended, just my personal preferences. Colored hair is meh but I find tattoos disgusting, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:13 AM
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"accept" being single (MGTOW and WGTOW are some of the most toxic people I have ever met) I mean, they're toxic because they've formed a whole community around this. I'm sure there's plenty of *GTOW people who are non-toxic and chill, but then why would they go on the internet and post about it, or talk about it IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:17 PM
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Utterly based
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:13 PM
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I think you're on to something with that for sure. I'm not really into history but I have always wondered, in the past (50s? 60s?) there used to be all sorts of "secret societies", civic clubs, hobby groups, church groups, etc, etc. Most people don't join those nowadays, it's seen as weird, or old-fashioned, or "gay" like you mentioned. Church groups in particular have fallen out due to rising agnosticism. The decline in clubs/societies definitely has a part to play in making people more depress…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:53 PM
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Based as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:20 PM
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So they've had a declining stock market. That's been known for a while. That's bad, but it's hardly the apocalypse-scale situation some people claim is imminent. And again, there's not much proof that that's purely because of Japan's romance/socialization problems - their society has a lot of other issues. excess men with no future and no positive outlook This is what I'm talking about in the original post, tbh. People, particularly incels and "anti-incels", have dramatized not having sex/romanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:02 PM
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Eh. Japan has a variety of other issues than just sexlessness (like crazy working culture) and they haven't collapsed yet. And at the end of the day, like I said, a rise from 20% to 40% is bad, but it isn't catastrophic. We will probably see more depression though, which is unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:11 AM
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Pretty sure those recent statistics are flawed due to weird measurements (defining sexlessness as having sex in this year) and the timing (COVID lockdowns). I'd also suspect that people are more willing to tell the truth today (we're more open about this mental-health-related stuff on surveys) and more willing to lie about it "back then", but that's probably a minor effect. How serious do you think the change is? If I recall correctly (just guessing here, I don't remember the exact numbers), peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 02:42 AM
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Based and truth-pilled The difference, as far as I can tell, is how obsessed with sex and incel-ism everyone is nowadays. Seems like back then a loser was a loser, and that's the end of it. Today the "incels" are mentally deranged and think their lives are over and society is collapsing because they can't get sex. It's an identity issue, these people have turned "not having sex" into their entire personal identity. And the "other side" doesn't help either, blaming everything that's wrong with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:32 PM
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You're assuming that the point of life is to accumulate some sort of high score or something. Putting society above yourself, in lots of cases, generates more happiness and makes for a more fulfilling life than purely working for your own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:18 AM
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Well, that... sounds like a terrible idea. But idc. Based AF
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:20 AM
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Free gym memberships socialized by the government maybe I don't think this will work as well as you think it does. I don't go to the gym because I'm lazy, not because it's hugely expensive. And for poor people who actually can't afford gym memberships, even if it was free, they're probably too far busy to go (working multiple jobs, caring for family, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:12 AM
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Lmao how would you enforce some of this stuff? "Restrict gaming to only 10 hours a week. Other hours of the day must be used for reading books, socializing with people in real life, or doing something useful" Does everyone get a Telescreen inside their living room?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:18 AM
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Extremely based
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 05:06 AM
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... really? That's what you got out of that statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 05:39 PM
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The vibe here ... is just so gross and not human like. Agreed 100%. I lurk here a bunch and... IDK. It's just a weird sub. Seems like everyone in here is extremely cynical, overly analytical, and like you said, prone to bitterness. "Why is there so little compassion" is a pretty spot-on question, I think. I've said it before, I'll say it again, people in this sub are obsessed with turning relationships and romance into an optimization problem, like it's an algorithm you need to finely tweak to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 08:22 AM
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Yeah I'm with you on this lol. Lock me in a room for 2 weeks with my friends of the opposite gender, and I'd be hella uncomfortable after a while, but I almost certainly wouldn't fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:53 AM
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Meh /u/Doctor823 I'm kinda with you on this. I browse this sub occasionally and it depresses the fuck out of me. Everyone here (well, on the "pillsphere" in general, as they call it) is so mind-numbingly cynical. Everything needs to be optimized and analyzed; it's borderline dystopian. Personally I have no opinion on whether or not shit like TRP and FDS works or not. I just know that if those kinds of "tactics" truly are what it takes to get a relationship in the modern world, then I'd rather ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:54 AM
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