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When I have to pee, I identify as a woman.
/r/MensRights20/11/16 06:09 PM
9

It couldn't happen to a nicer person.
/r/MensRights30/10/16 03:59 PM
-1

Do I trust the police in the EU where they love to cover up immigrant crimes? Maybe she did lie. Hard to say.
/r/MensRights06/07/16 04:35 PM
-2

When the "refugees" are involved, it wouldn't surprise me if she was forced to recant. In short, I don't know what to believe when police are politically correct.
/r/MensRights04/07/16 10:11 PM
1

Give it about 10 years. FGM will be legal in the name of political correctness.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 03:00 AM
11

There is a difference between a choice and a obligation with a religious fervor. Merely suggest that abortion isn't always the best and only choice and you'll get downvoted to hell.
/r/MensRights14/06/16 05:22 PM
39

Some posters on Reddit are pro abortion to the point of making it a sacrament for women. It's hard to reason with them.
/r/MensRights14/06/16 12:35 PM
10

Someone still has to build and maintain the automation.
/r/MensRights29/05/16 03:20 PM
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On many subs, you will get downvoted to hell for suggesting that abortion isn't the first, best, and only choice. There are many posters who are essentially pro-abortion instead of pro-choice. Also, the feminists, like any cult, are eager to drive a wedge between the girl and her family and boyfriend with lying and deceit. It's disgusting. I hope my kids would come to me if they were ever in that situation.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 07:01 PM
3

I think that most people who criticize places like the Tilted Kilt for sexist practices are jealous because they are unattractive. Instead of accepting this and moving on, they attempt to nullify the advantage of the attractive women.
/r/MensRights25/04/16 11:37 AM
5

I think I can speak for all the good, involved dads when I say "fuck you Sawers."
/r/MensRights16/04/16 10:12 PM
7

That mod is pretty ban happy. I got banned by it for saying that an open marriage would ending in a cucking followed by a divorce. It also warned me for saying that dudes who liked sucking dick were not straight.
/r/MensRights24/02/16 02:57 AM
7

When we were younger, my wife had use of my credit cards. It nearly bankrupted us because she has no self control. I took her off and gave her her own card with a limit we can afford to pay off in full each month. Is that economic abuse?
/r/MensRights25/12/15 04:35 PM
0

Sounds like choosing between flavors of unwiped asshole to me.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 01:00 AM
1

I wouldn't call American Psycho 2 a feminist remake. The killer was an ambitious sociopath like Bateman and made no attempt to blame society or a mystical patriarchy for her actions. Mila Kunis portrayed the killer as sweet and feminine. A feminist film would have someone fat and obnoxious in the role. It would have been written so the audience felt sympathy for the killer, despite her being awful on all levels.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 01:47 PM
2

America liberal not classic liberal.
/r/MensRights13/10/15 02:37 AM
2

Benevolent castration sounds like something a feminist would think of.
/r/MensRights14/09/15 12:23 AM
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They're talking about possibly throwing a woman in jail because she won't cut her child's penis. This is something you would expect to see in a 3rd world hell hole, not in a advanced nation.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 08:32 PM
1

I was cut at birth. I wish I wasn't. My son isn't cut.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 12:38 PM
14

It can't backfire. Its power + male privilege = emotional abuse. Women have no power or male privilege in The Patriarchy(tm), so they can't be an offender.
/r/MensRights23/11/14 06:43 PM
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Started out strong but ended up whining about birth control and abortion for most of the article. Lame.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 02:35 PM
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I don't think even a well done contract would protect a man from family court.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 12:19 PM
2

Our role is to shut up and stop raping people. Does Nicky have something he needs to confess? Maybe convincing himself that all men rape is a way to ease his own guilt.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 07:51 PM
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I have to agree with this. HR types and people who do interviews don't say stuff like this because it will get them in trouble.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 10:19 PM
3

Its like the guy has to be doing all he's doing now in terms of providing to be considered to be doing nothing. I suppose they expect him to do all the housework, too.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 05:35 PM
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I don't agree with this. It takes two to tango. While it is true that there are advantages for a parent to stay home during a child's younger years, there is no reason for that parent to delay a career until after a child has left the house. If a parent decides to stay home after their kids are in school, then its no longer about financial costs - its because they want to, not because their spouse is making them. Some alimony in your example is justified, but there's no reason that the ex-spouse…
/r/MensRights23/06/13 08:26 PM
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My son is vaccinated and intact. What's your point?
/r/MensRights07/06/13 01:12 PM
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The entire article/transcript is about dating/sexual relationships. Your initial post makes no sense in that context.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 03:22 PM
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Sounds like an SRSter's dream ... a man slave with no balls who can't stand up for himself.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 02:26 PM
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I downvoted this comment for the last sentence, but now I get to downvote whiny SRS eunuchs, too. What a good 5 minutes!
/r/MensRights17/05/13 02:19 PM
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You're trying to change the focus. Out of the things you list only UTIs have the potential to affect newborns and young children. Answer my previous questions. Are UTIs such a grievous problem in male newborns that we need to cut them when we have better treatments like antibiotics and preventives like breastfeeding and increased water intake? For what its worth: STIs concern the sexually active - people old enough for sex can probably make a decision about circumcision. Do you have an issue wit…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:38 PM
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Are UTIs really so frequent that we need to risk surgery on infants and potential loss of sexual sensitivity later in life? How many male infants die or suffer injury from UTIs before they can be treated? The American newborn circumcision rate has fallen drastically in the past 20 years. Can you cite an increased UTI rate in that population? Can you cite an increased UTI rate in an intact population (Western Europe or Japan) vs. the United States' cut population?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 05:26 PM
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If my wife or daughter had UTI, how would I treat it? Why wouldn't this treatment apply to intact boys? How would you treat a circumcised boy with a UTI? Does circumcision render males immune to UTIs?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:49 PM
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What health benefits of circumcision make for a healthier infant? Which of those health benefits cannot be achieved in a less invasive, safer method?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:07 PM
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The question is, "Is it a good thing to do to a baby?" and nothing the AAP presents is compelling evidence to answer yes to that question.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 12:15 PM
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None of that should matter with babies. If they want it done, they can get it done when they're an adult. They'll have lots of good pain relief, have a say in how it's done, and have no one to blame but themselves if it ends up sucking. That the AAP feels the need for insurance to cover it reeks of simple greed.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 11:42 AM
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The AAP strongly recommends that newborn genital cutting for males be available and recommends that 3rd parties pay for it. They stop short of recommending it for all male babies and again advised parents to consider personal things like religion, daddy, family, and all that when making a decision as well as the Dr's fearmongering.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:37 AM
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We can only hope.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 05:33 PM
1

The only men I'm aware of who think this way are in ultra conservative religious groups; groups which believe that gender roles are divinely ordained. Now there are men who prefer traditional gender roles for themselves and their families but don't want that forced on anyone, but that's a different case.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:34 PM
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The guy's kind of old to have a daughter that young. My daughter is that age and he looks as old as my dad.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 02:07 AM
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I have found this to be very true. Guys who don't get married and don't have kids can act like teenagers in perpetuity. They go to work for 8 hours or whatever and beyond that, they have no responsibilities beyond what they choose, so they keep doing the same things they did as teenagers and young twenty somethings - partying, video games, paintball, whatever.
/r/MensRights26/01/13 05:47 PM
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I really don't believe that even a sizable minority of men would be willing to commit rape, if given the opportunity. Most people are nonviolent. For me, the idea of forcing sex on someone is is beyond repugnant. I doubt I could even indulge my wife in a rape fantasy, if she had one. I'd love to see this study. I think humans have an emotional need to pair off. If you want to look at a community of men - look at the gay male community. Gay guys pair off, despite them being all male. In the more …
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:21 PM
1

Do you consider yourself a libertarian?
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:45 PM
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You are American, right? You've never heard the following? He has to look like daddy! He'll get teased in the locker room! Cuz 'merica! (Or some variation) He'll never get a blowjob! It looks like an anteater! Women like it better cut. It looks sleaker. <Insert Seinfeld quote> But you're a defender of the practice. What do you get out of it?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:40 PM
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Probably, but IIRC, genital piercings and sex toys are illegal in many states and those laws pass muster. I think that if a man wants to take a knife to his healthy genitals, its probably a good idea to see if he has some issues first. There's no sense in him carving up his body in a futile attempt to slay demons from the past. If the guy truly just wants a cut dick then by all means.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 05:03 PM
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I'd rather it wasn't done to me. As a cosmetic procedure, it ought to be illegal until such time as the man is a legal adult and can make the decision for himself. He should also be required to undergo counseling to determine why he'd want to mutilate himself in such a fashion. Maybe he was sexually abused in the past.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 03:46 PM
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The only thing I block on my network is Bittorent because I don't need the DMCA hassles. Other than that, staff management is not my problem. If a worker has time to waste on Facebook then their boss needs to give them more to do.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 03:52 PM
2

You're probably right. It seems awfully strange to just have /r/mensrights blocked.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 03:51 PM
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A lot of "IT guys" really don't like the idea of site blocking so will only put the most token effort into it. Don't confuse disinterest or outright opposition with incompetence.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 01:32 PM
1

Unbiased information on circumcision from a pediatrician? That's a lot like: Unbiased information on a service plan from a Best Buy blue shirt. Unbiased information on an undercoating from a car salesman. Unbiased information on a timeshare from a real estate agent. Unbiased information on an Android or Blackberry from an Apple Store employee. Interestingly enough, the national medical associations will share our view, with the obvious exception of the AAP.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 03:27 PM
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OBs are quite often the ones that circumcise a baby boy. I know it seems counter-intuitive for an expert on female parts to be cutting up a healthy baby boy, but it is what it is.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 06:48 PM
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What did the police suggest be done if the children did wake up and need an adult?
/r/MensRights08/10/12 06:26 PM
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Do you understand what anesthetics are used for?
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:44 AM
2

Why would I vote for a party that's doing its best to ensure that I can't get a decent job?
/r/MensRights03/10/12 02:07 PM
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You have 3 choices here: Wuss out, attend, and validate their multilation. Tell your sister and family to eat a big bag of dicks in what ever fashion you feel is appropriate. Go to the event and read something that you have prepared that shares your true feelings. Personally, I would have a couple shots and pick option three.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 01:48 PM
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Since you want polite and respectful, I'd tell them, "I'll be happy to participate as long as the circumcision is replaced with a naming ceremony as per the daughter. Holding someone down and cutting their private parts is morally wrong and I cannot participate." Personally, since I really don't care who I offend at an already offensive occasion, I'd go and read something about the sensitivity loss due to male genital mutilation, probably through a megaphone. The bris would be something to remem…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 04:14 PM
1

This isn't a left/right issue. I'm pretty far left in my politics and think this is insane.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 09:31 PM
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Because 'murica.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 01:37 AM
1

I don't think socialism is the term they're looking for... maybe "affirmative action" or "feminism" or "discarding merit", but not socialism.
/r/MensRights14/08/12 09:39 PM
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In the United States, its just as often the mother who pushes circumcision. How many female doctors push circumcision? How many women act disgusted when confronted with the normal body part? This is why intactivists focus on educating people, not just men or women.
/r/MensRights12/08/12 06:22 PM
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The father was likely the reason he was left intact to begin with and the forced circumcision was yet another piece of revenge. EDIT: Since there seems to be confusion - I am speculating that there was disagreement at the man's birth with the father being anti-cutting and the mother being for it. The father won the argument at the time but the mother decided to exact revenge later. In no way am I stating that fathers are always against cutting or mothers are always pro-cutting. Obviously, this i…
/r/MensRights11/08/12 12:16 PM
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'MURICA!!! Its a stupid American tradition and a money making scam by our for-profit medical community. Sure, there are other rationalizations and reasons, but they are all derivatives of the above.
/r/MensRights29/07/12 02:24 PM
1

Its not illegal if you declare the assets as existing in the court proceedings. Its a good idea to have assets that your wife can't clear out when she leaves. You don't want to be left with no money at all if the shit hits the fan and she decides to take off.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 06:40 PM
1

So women don't initiate divorce? don't empty joint accounts?
/r/MensRights17/07/12 04:50 PM
1

Don't bring politics into this. Its sound advice regardless of your political beliefs.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 01:35 PM
0

If being intact could render you sterile then my family line wouldn't exist. My ancestors on both sides emigrated from Europe where circumcision is nonexistent and only started cutting their sons because of the typical American nonsense.
/r/MensRights14/06/12 04:08 PM
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Good luck getting a job at IBM as an American, male or female.
/r/MensRights21/05/12 01:50 PM
2

The latter. Anything that hurts the wallets of a circumcisor is a victory. If circumcision were unprofitable, suddenly, no one in the medical community would recommend it.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 10:56 PM
2

I disagree. Even if he settled, he's hitting the medical providers in the wallet. That's very meaningful. If he lost the trial, there would be no monetary award. Without the monetary award, the doctors won't start giving a shit.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 09:05 PM
2

Doctors can refuse to do procedures.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 09:04 PM
2

I know MA, a generally liberal state, is in the process of reducing their alimony law. Can you cite other examples? Feminism didn't really push women into the workplace, it helped create the opportunities. Human greed created the rest. Most women in the typical nuclear famliy got jobs initially to help pay for vacations and toys. Then it spiraled out of control to what we have today. Social programs didn't create offshoring, outsourcing, or put entire factory towns under water. They are a conseq…
/r/MensRights26/04/12 12:17 AM
3

While liberals have been more outspoken on the civil rights aspect of feminism, both parties are happy to throw men under the bus when it comes to things like divorce and custody. Further, neither party has done anything to make a middle class lifestyle more accessible to families with one income.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 10:50 PM
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It is very possible that Ann Romney never worked a day in her life. Wealth enables you to buy all sorts of staff. Normal families have to clean house, cook meals, drive the kids places, help their kids with homework, etc. in addition to the responsibilities of providing. Ann probably had a full time housekeeping, cooking, driving staff, and tutors galore and definitely had the resources for a leisure lifestyle. Show me ANY voices in the political arena who actually stand for the nuclear family. …
/r/MensRights25/04/12 10:48 PM
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Misread your previous post. Progressives attacked Ann Romney because she's completely out of touch with the financial realities of most modern families. Her wealth enabled her to be a stay at home mother. Her husband's policies (and indeed, those of most politicians) make it harder for most families to survive on two incomes, let alone one.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 09:10 PM
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Ann Romney is a progressive? Wife of Mitt Romney, Republican presidential candidate?
/r/MensRights25/04/12 08:33 PM
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While it is true that most (radical) feminists are liberal or progressive politically, it does not follow that most progressives are (radical) feminists.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 07:46 PM
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That's an interesting take. The other end of the conspiracy spectrum is that progressives want free health care so welfare queens can pop out 25 kids each. I think the situation described has more to do with unrealistic expectations in a population, rather than any sort of political leaning.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 05:29 PM
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This has nothing to do with politics, progressive or otherwise.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 05:17 PM
1

Do you make money doing circumcisions?
/r/MensRights17/04/12 12:11 AM
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Find another doctor. He doesn't need to mention that he's married. His body, his choice.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 01:29 PM
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I guess I don't see how it involves giving up freedoms.
/r/MensRights05/03/12 04:53 PM
0

Can you imagine a reality where a man has a cheating wife? Its not about you. Its about all men. Seriously, if its that much of a concern, have a homebirth. Your family's personal data is all over the hospital's medical records systems and doctor's offices anyway.
/r/MensRights05/03/12 03:38 PM
1

I think the DNA testing would be handled by a firm subcontracted by the hospital, not the state.
/r/MensRights03/03/12 11:03 PM
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A man asking for paternity testing is the equivalent of accusing the mother of cheating. Unless the man is 110% sure, he's not going to ask for the test because of the obvious trust issues it raises. Making it mandatory eliminates the trust issues.
/r/MensRights03/03/12 09:59 PM
1

I would refuse to do them on moral and ethical grounds.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 03:17 PM
2

A lot of doctors hate that Medicaid won't pay for male genital cutting - its money out of their pocket. I have no doubt that Diekema is under signficant pressure from these physicians to help their advertising campaign.
/r/MensRights15/02/12 08:45 PM
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But don't worry. Their circumcised dicks will make them immune to HIV, plus they look better and prevent cancer! /s
/r/MensRights29/01/12 04:41 PM
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Yes. They're used in certain cosmetics and in lab tests. http://www.alternet.org/environment/47421?page=entire
/r/MensRights26/01/12 09:11 PM
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Possibly the biggest is the for-profit nature of our medical care system. Doctors are paid handsomely to do circumcisions and they can sell what they removed. This leads them to lie about the benefits of circumcision and ignore the downsides.
/r/MensRights26/01/12 06:34 PM
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I'd rather my parents have given me a tattoo than a circumcision.
/r/MensRights25/01/12 01:45 PM
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Morally and ethically, I don't see a difference. They're both wrong. Physically, it really depends on the type of procedure done.
/r/MensRights19/01/12 03:17 PM
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I have two kids. My wife refused pain meds with the first and had a home birth with the second. I never would have let her use sympathy towards her condition to force me to make a decision I know is wrong. I would have divorced her first. He will be fine, if anything she has had to suffer with her decision. Her emotional trauma, if there really is any, pales in comparison to your son's suffering during and post surgery and the loss of sensitivity when he's a man. I feel that many of the subscrib…
/r/MensRights04/01/12 07:44 PM
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"I don't want to argue about it anymore"... That's where you should have announced that you aren't doing it. Instead you let her walk all over you and your son.
/r/MensRights04/01/12 04:52 PM
7

Ever heard of a condom?
/r/MensRights04/12/11 04:40 PM
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As a circumcised man, I am glad that MensRights has so many links about this important male issue.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 02:37 PM
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If anything it shows that Herman Cain is an everyman whos been the target of extortion at the hands of feminism. More likely its just the typical nonissues that accompany any election. They could talk about why Cain's 999 plan is bad for anyone who isn't rich but that would be to complicated for so many voters.
/r/MensRights09/11/11 02:42 PM
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Good news. Now when some baby cutting pervert brings up HPV and penile cancer, I can mention this HPV vaccine.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 09:01 PM
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Looks better ... in their opinions. I don't share their opinion - I think my penis would look a lot better without a circumcision scar.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 09:21 PM
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Its not. Proper care of an intact baby's penis is trivial. Wash the outside as you would a finger. Never retract the foreskin. Unlike a circumcised baby, there's no wound care involved and no wound sitting in a shitty diaper.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 09:18 PM
2

Circumcision is a cosmetic surgery. Cosmetic surgery, not to be confused with reconstructive or corrective surgery, is entirely optional and a personal decision. Cosmetic surgery decisions should only be made by the owner of the body after they are of age and fully informed of the risks. Any benefits mentioned by proponents are better achieved through other means (washing, antibiotics) or not relevant to babies (STDs). STDs are best preventing with safe sex practices, judging by the appalling ST…
/r/MensRights23/10/11 09:17 PM
2

Why would you be proud of a cut cock? Seems a bit creepy to me.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 04:47 PM
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He likes cut cocks.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 04:43 PM
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I'm glad you like being circumcised. I don't and I had no choice in the matter. That's the problem here.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:52 AM
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You ought to read more anatomy. Its like calling one's eyelid a flap of skin.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 01:39 PM
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You're the one who seems to be pleased that your parents let a pervert take a knife to your dick and here you are defending the practice. Issues?
/r/MensRights03/10/11 03:51 AM
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Good call. I fully support the choice of an adult male to choose circumcision for himself.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 01:18 AM
1

Why would you cut your sons?
/r/MensRights26/07/11 05:13 PM
1

The pervert has to move the object of his affection into position so he can cut it with a knife.
/r/MensRights22/07/11 02:18 PM
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I don't know how I can make it anymore clear. The pervert (the mohel) gets the baby drunk and then starts fondling his penis and cutting it with a knife.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 11:23 PM
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Great. Get the kid drunk so a pervert can have his way with him.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 10:34 PM
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Link?
/r/MensRights05/07/11 05:45 PM
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A patient born with phimosis? Google "congenital phimosis" and get back to me. No boy is born with a retractable foreskin. It happens later, usually by the puberty. For example, my son retracted at 2.5 years old. (He's also never had a UTI, been teased, caused a neurosis in me, gotten dick cancer, made Jebus angry, etc.) While you are at it, google "iatrogenic phimosis". This kind of phimosis is caused when physicians and parents, ignorant of normal penile anatomy, retract the foreskin and cause…
/r/MensRights24/06/11 04:35 PM
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When has newborn circumcision been about caring for the well being of the patient? Its always been about someone or something else - money, religion, daddy's insecurities, mommy's sexual preferences, societal pressure, etc.
/r/MensRights24/06/11 03:20 PM
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I can see why you would be opposed to a circumcision ban. If someone threatened a significant source of my income, I'd be pissed, too.
/r/MensRights24/06/11 01:29 PM
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Speak for yourself.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 09:27 PM
1

Circumcision wasn't optional for me.
/r/MensRights06/06/11 12:17 AM
1

Meh. The schmucks in this situation are my parents for choosing to line the doctor's pockets for this disgusting tribal mark. I certainly haven't done anything that stupid or cruel to my son.
/r/MensRights28/05/11 12:03 AM
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Why was I forced through a Jewish ritual when my family isn't Jewish?
/r/MensRights27/05/11 05:16 PM
1

The Government has a role in defending the defenseless - in this case, a minor child. This concept isn't foreign - we already have laws protecting females from genital cutting, laws against child abuse, abduction laws, child labor laws, etc. Parents should have the power of medical consent for their child when it is necessary. The vast majority of minor circumcisions are completely optional and serve parental vanity and superstition, not health.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 12:55 PM
1

Both involve force against a nonconsenting person.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 12:38 AM
1

There's obvious differences between pickpocketing someone and murdering them but they're both still illegal and subject to Government coercion.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 08:04 PM
1

as the child will retain no memory of the incident So anything we do to our child that they won't remember is ok? What about roofies? Is it ok for you to have your way with a woman if she won't remember? This is a very weak argument. From what I have seen thusfar on what it costs to fight a nasty UI, or what HIV drugs cost, I'd say it's gambling. You're the one gambling that circumcision will prevent HIV. I'm saying to wear a condom where there is risk of HIV or STD infections. Besides, HIV rate…
/r/MensRights19/05/11 05:37 PM
1

I've read your stated reasons for liking newborn circumcision. You have yet to indicate why circumcision is preferable to less invasive, less costly, more effective, and more ethical measures. It is likely that you can't yet you still support circumcision of babies. This leads me to believe that you have an undisclosed motive for supporting infant circumcision.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 04:02 PM
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You come across as very rational but there is nothing rational about preferring an inherently risky surgery over preventative breastfeeding, antibiotics, and condoms. What's your real reason for your preference for cut baby boys?
/r/MensRights19/05/11 03:30 PM
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In the broader context, we're discussing the proposed SF ban on circumcision of minors without a major medical need. In this comment nest, we're discussing how you perceive the protection of male infants to be extreme. You and one other are the only ones discussing the "benefits" of male circumcision. Nothing you have posted suggests that newborn circumcision is superior to less invasive treatments for problems as they arise. Nothing you have posted would convince me to risk glans amputation, me…
/r/MensRights19/05/11 03:12 PM
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You might if you were a circumcised female living in Indonesia or Saudi Arabia.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 02:36 PM
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Do you have a problem with Government coercion to prevent child abuse?
/r/MensRights19/05/11 02:17 PM
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By generating profit for the doctor, of course.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 02:16 PM
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Try to post a pro female circumcision post in 2XC. They'll downvote the hell out of you and rightfully so.
/r/MensRights19/05/11 02:10 PM
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Its one thing to engage in body modification but these perverts are pushing it on little babies. I hope there's a special place in hell for them.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 06:31 PM
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Really? You think the foreskin is like a smegma hose?
/r/MensRights13/05/11 06:26 PM
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There have been a lot of baby cutting perverts around lately. I wonder if CircList is trying to make a new home here.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 03:56 PM
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My family is from Poland and Germany. It was never a tradition for my ancestors. Up until the last hundred years or less, there was no running water for most of the world. Despite the hygenic obstacles, my ancestors kept their foreskins and procreated just fine. It was all ok until some perverts decided they could make money in for-profit America demonizing normal body parts. Female circumcision is also a part of certain cultures. If you expect me to accept cultural relativism on the part of mal…
/r/MensRights13/05/11 03:55 PM
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Care to tell us why circumcision is superior to antibiotics and soap?
/r/MensRights13/05/11 03:51 PM
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Yet the male equivalent is not illegal and is celebrated, despite being an obvious human rights violation.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 03:48 PM
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Circumcision prevents those things in the same way that cutting off one's feet would prevent athlete's foot and ingrown toenails. I don't think anyone does it for the reasons you listed. They just say that so they don't sound like perverts for wanting their son's dick to match daddy. Plus, phimosis is a scary word and sounds really serious.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 02:56 PM
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There are different types of female circumcision/genital cutting. They range from a pin prick (no tissue removed) to removal of the clitoral hood (equivalent of male circumcision) to the style that you're thinking of, which includes removal of the clitoral hood, clitoris, labia, etc.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 02:53 PM
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Actually, its a cultural/religious thing and a form of male promoted misandry, since obviously, male bodies aren't good enough the way they are.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 01:54 PM
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Yeah because my parents really had a vested interest in my dick. They obviously pee with it, jerk it off, have sex with it, and impregnate my wife with it. And obviously, parents know whether or not their kid is too dumb to use a rubber when they're a newborn. I'm obviously that dumb. Circumcision, like all cosmetic surgeries, should be the sole decision of the individual when he or she is able to consent.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 01:52 PM
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The Clitoral hood is the equivalent structure.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 01:50 PM
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Its certainly one of the top issues. Of course, all the baby cutting perverts will be in here defending it.
/r/MensRights13/05/11 03:47 AM
1

Learn the difference between situational depression and chronic depression and apply it to the situation.
/r/MensRights01/05/11 12:41 AM
1

My wife breastfed my two kids in public quite often. I think its great when mothers breastfeed no matter where they are.
/r/MensRights20/04/11 01:53 AM
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By myself, I pick up my son and daughter from school, go to parent functions, the park, the store, and other places and I've never had a problem or a even a dirty look. Is this commonplace?
/r/MensRights13/04/11 02:06 AM
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What's wrong with letting a man decide for himself? Why should a parent be allowed to make this kind of unnecessary choice?
/r/MensRights09/03/11 09:12 PM
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I support the rights of capital to organize into corporations. I also support the rights of labor to organize into unions. Its not fair or right for an individual worker to have no other choice but to go against organized capital alone.
/r/MensRights09/03/11 08:20 PM
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No such thing for me. I'm too paranoid of STDs and unwanted pregnancy to fuck anyone I am not in a relationship with. Part of it is that I am personally opposed to abortion and wouldn't want any child of mine aborted.
/r/MensRights23/11/10 07:53 PM
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The Orange Giant is all act, like most politicians.
/r/MensRights22/11/10 12:48 PM
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There's a big difference between unnecessary surgery and a question asked to everyone.
/r/MensRights20/11/10 04:48 AM
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Male
/r/MensRights20/11/10 04:48 AM
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They asked me that question when I was in the ER for an asthma attack. I think it is standard for everyone.
/r/MensRights19/11/10 01:41 PM
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No one should be cutting the healthy genitals of minors.
/r/MensRights01/11/10 11:10 AM
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The parent poster was comparing the risks of newborn surgery to the risks of riding in a car. I was merely reminding him that circumcision is an entirely optional risk whereas riding in a car is not. Circumcision ought to be the province of adults with a interest in body modification and illegal for minors.
/r/MensRights27/10/10 09:13 PM
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Circumcision is an optional medical procedure.
/r/MensRights27/10/10 05:39 PM
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The list was missing circumcision, for one.
/r/MensRights15/10/10 02:23 PM
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No. You would be asking the doctor to perform cosmetic surgery on your newborn boy. There is no medical purpose to newborn circumcision - any benefit that proponents claim can be better acheived in other methods. Proponents claim relief from UTIs, penile cancer, STDs/HIV, locker room teasing, and easier cleaning. UTIs can be cured with $4 antibiotics and prevented with breastfeeding. In any case, UTIs in males are very rare. Penile cancer is an extremely rare cancer of old men. Your son is at hi…
/r/MensRights29/09/10 11:42 AM
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Can I consent for my 4 year old daughter to get breast implants?
/r/MensRights20/09/10 11:39 AM
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I'm circumcised and you'll never convince me that its a good thing or necessary. You'll never make me regret not circumcising my son.
/r/MensRights20/09/10 11:38 AM
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Money. There is a lot of it to be made cutting the baby, fixing any "mistakes" or complications, and selling the tissue.
/r/MensRights20/09/10 11:37 AM
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I think some Australian doctors are jealous of the money American doctors make doing circumcisions, doing corrections, and selling tissue.
/r/MensRights20/09/10 11:25 AM
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What's wrong with you that you feel you are incapable of a bit of washing in the shower?
/r/MensRights14/09/10 11:24 PM
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I'm cut and strongly opposed to circumcision. I imagine that most of the American guys who are opposed are in the same boat.
/r/MensRights14/09/10 11:24 PM
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Locker room? Gang showers aren't exactly the norm and haven't been for decades and probably before you were born. The Gattaca analogy is flawed. Circumcision is a fad, one that's going away in America despite the best efforts of people like you. Foreskin problems aren't the norm, either. Hate to break it to you.
/r/MensRights14/09/10 11:22 PM
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This is an absurd argument because American boys are no more or less likely to show off their penises than any other boy. The "look different" argument is a product of 1960s gang showers - something that many making the argument aren't old enough to have experienced.
/r/MensRights14/09/10 10:29 AM
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There are a lot of guys who are very defensive about circumcison - they cut their sons, they have religious reasons, or they just like cut dick.
/r/MensRights13/09/10 01:48 PM
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Sounds good to me.
/r/MensRights03/09/10 08:17 PM
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One contributes where they can. I have no experience with divorce or family courts, but I have experience with circumcision and having an intact son.
/r/MensRights02/09/10 04:18 AM
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I wasn't aware that I had your support. In every thread, you show up and defend circumcision with a passion or at best, bitch that people are talking about it. I would be in favor of laws that banned circumcision but allowed for a religious exemption for Jews and Muslims. Bet you forgot about that last group. I can't see that flying because that would make circumcision an oddity and we wouldn't want that!
/r/MensRights01/09/10 11:19 PM
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There's a forum for people like you. Google Circlist. But on second thought, you are probably a member already.
/r/MensRights01/09/10 07:53 PM
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Now who's whining?
/r/MensRights01/09/10 06:56 PM
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I'm the one saying "Keep the knife away from the kids" whereas you're the one who thinks that it should be open season on baby dicks. Who's creepy again? Circumcision will be reduced to a tribal odditty. It isn't coming back in the 1st world in any significant numbers, despite the best effort of people like you.
/r/MensRights01/09/10 05:30 PM
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Get over your love of cutting baby dick first.
/r/MensRights01/09/10 05:13 PM
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Big man on the Internet, defending the unnecessary genital cutting of tiny babies.
/r/MensRights01/09/10 05:09 PM
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How is this not a real men's issue? Try to put aside your love of the dick cutting for a second.
/r/MensRights01/09/10 04:19 PM
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Um, no. Not all circumcised men are as in love with the practice as the hardcore proponents like yourself. The U.S. newborn circumcision rate has dropped dramatically over the last two decades. These intact boys have circumcised fathers. Even if these circumcised fathers are ok with what was done to them, they didn't like it enough to perpetuate the practice on their sons. I'm cut. My son is not.
/r/MensRights01/09/10 04:17 PM
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Just like its a conspiracy that Coke hyped Vitamin Water as healthy when it really was just sugar water. Just like its a conspiracy when chiropractors claim that they can cure disease. Just like its a conspiracy when Chevy runs a commercial showing happy families using their bank-breaking SUVs. Just like when Pepsi runs a commercial showing fit, active people drinking Mountain Dew. Its called a promotion. Advertising. If you want to sell, you have to promote and exagerate an image and benefits. …
/r/MensRights19/08/10 11:19 AM
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Of course its is advertising. American doctors can now cite your Africa studies as "proof" that circumcision is worth the $300. We now have 66% of American boys going without circumcision. That's hundreds of millions of dollars a year plus millions more in corrections that is going unclaimed. Its part and parcel of for-profit medicine and Africans will pay the price for the advertising campaign. Its really quite disgusting. Let's see what the African HIV rates are after 20 years of circumcision …
/r/MensRights19/08/10 03:02 AM
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Circumcision isn't free. As I said before, with the history of medical circumcision over the last century, I am extremely skeptical when it is promoted as the next great thing over and over again. It doesn't help when the promoters can't or won't explain why cut America has more STDs and more HIV than does uncut Western Europe. Circumcision is a useful tool for American doctors to make money. I'll give you that. $300+ a pop times so many hundred births adds up. I understand the whole push. Its a…
/r/MensRights19/08/10 02:18 AM
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Yet in Western Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, and other places, their HIV per capita HIV prevalence is much lower, despite their low to nonexistent circumcision rates. The biggest difference between them and us is that they generally have functional sex ed programs promoting safe sex while much of our country is pushing religious abstinence education and pretending that condoms don't exist. Yes, vaccines aren't completely effective, but in every case, they have literally wiped out disease. Ho…
/r/MensRights19/08/10 02:11 AM
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I pity those who die of AIDS, but especially the ones who don't have the resources to realize they have been sold snake oil.
/r/MensRights19/08/10 01:13 AM
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So the herd of 80%-90% cut American men wasn't enough to prevent our HIV epidemic? Herd immunity requires that a certain percentage of people are actually immune to whatever disease. Circumcised men are not immune from HIV. None of them.
/r/MensRights18/08/10 08:38 PM
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I pity the people who buy into the latest reason to promote genital cutting.
/r/MensRights18/08/10 08:37 PM
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So instead of trying harder and working to overcome cultural barriers to condom use, you push something that isn't going to work and that will actually discourage condom use? Nice. What are you going to say to the smart guy who asks you "Why should I get circumcised when I still have to wear a condom?"
/r/MensRights18/08/10 08:07 PM
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Generations of American males were cut, yet we still have an HIV epidemic. is that the only relevant factor that differs between America and other places is circumcision. Of course it isn't the only relevant factor, but the way circumcision pushers go on, you'd think it was a vaccine. Google "circumcision surgical vaccine". Real vaccines work, regardless of cultural factors. Anyway, forgive me for being skeptical, but circumcision has been pushed as a cure for masturbation, penile cancer, cervic…
/r/MensRights18/08/10 08:00 PM
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Africa is a diverse continent. Some groups cut. Others don't. Some do it for religious reasons. Some for inititation purposes, as you point out. It seems like the goal is just to push circumcision while largely ignoring the cultural factors that contribute to circumcision that paint a more complicated picture. Example: Circumcised Muslim men have extremely low rates of HIV. The circumcision pushers see it as a win for circumcision. The reality is that Muslims are faithful to their spouses and do…
/r/MensRights18/08/10 04:06 PM
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So after you succeed in bringing the gospel of circumcision to all Africans and their HIV rates continue to climb, how do you expect them to take you guys seriously? In the U.S., the newborn circumcision rates were 90%+ in the 1980s when HIV was discovered. Generations of American males were cut, yet we still have an HIV epidemic. Anyone with a clue questions the motivation and the science behind the latest circumcision push.
/r/MensRights18/08/10 01:13 PM
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Cosmetic surgery is cosmetic surgery and its absolutely wrong when you're discussing minors who can't provide input. Circumcision isn't healthier and people who believe otherwise are a gravy train for unethical doctors. Name a condition that circumcision claims to prevent and there is a better, cheaper, safer way to achieve the same benefit.
/r/MensRights16/08/10 10:01 PM
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Not any sillier than circumcising a newborn because YOU don't like foreskins.
/r/MensRights16/08/10 09:34 PM
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So this is a good reason to send a newborn to surgery? Lots of guys find small breasted women to be unappealing. Maybe we ought to start off with newborn breast implants?
/r/MensRights16/08/10 09:19 PM
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How do you figure?
/r/MensRights16/08/10 08:51 PM
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Probably because if you want to avoid STDs, you have to wear a condom. Oh, and there are HPV vaccinations available.
/r/MensRights16/08/10 08:51 PM
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edit - let's be clear here - I'm looking for something that supports leaving the kids au naturel. Your perspective is backwards. "Au naturel" is the default. Its up to the pro-circumcision side to present evidence that circumcision is absolutely necessary for a newborn. Is it necessary for people to justify keeping any other body part? No. There has to be an actual problem and all other more conservative treatments must be tried first. Why is the foreskin any different?
/r/MensRights16/08/10 06:56 PM
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The penis is obviously an undeveloped organ at birth. The doctor cannot predict how large it will develop. In years past, doctors made the circumcision as tight as possible and removed as much skin as possible. When the boy developed, it was very possible that the boy had insufficient skin to accomodate his natural erectile tissue. The erectile tissue would simply be forced back into his body due to insufficient skin. There is a loss of perceived length. The aggressive skin removal can also caus…
/r/MensRights16/08/10 05:54 PM
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A quote of my first post: If circumcision is so effective, why are our rates so high when compared to similar countries that don't cut? I agree with your answer and it is a good answer to the question I posed in my first post. American "sex ed" is worse than nothing. That said, I didn't blame circumcison, I am saying that it isn't effective. If it were effective, our sex ed or lack thereof wouldn't make a difference.
/r/MensRights16/08/10 04:50 PM
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My point is that if circumcision were such a potent remedy, our Jesus-like sex ed wouldn't matter. Circumcision and actual vaccination have nothing in common. Circumcision doesn't prevent disease, it just might reduce the risk of certain STDs, if you're really, really lucky. Vaccination actually prevents the individual from getting a disease.
/r/MensRights16/08/10 04:29 PM
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Circumcision is a cure looking for a disease. HIV is just the latest.
/r/MensRights16/08/10 03:39 PM
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A few thoughts on HIV and circumcision: 80% of adult American males are circumcised. The United States has the highest per capita HIV infection rate out of the developed countries. If circumcision is so effective, why are our rates so high when compared to similar countries that don't cut? Condoms are a requirement for safe sex, cut or not. Circumcision does not make condoms more effective. So why cut? American circumcision is done in the first few days of the boy's life. How is he at risk from …
/r/MensRights16/08/10 03:38 PM
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Canada and Australia are fine examples. Australia and Canada had a 90% circumcision rate in the 1970s, just like us. Now, their rates are 10%-15%. Have they seen an increase in the problems you have described? Not to my knowledge. Our rates are down to 50%. Have we seen an increase in these problems? Then you have all of Europe, Japan, China, South America, Mexico, etc. None of these countries have ever had widespread circumcision. Do they have a tremendous amount of penis problems? Hell, most o…
/r/MensRights19/05/10 06:02 PM
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The problem is American hygiene, at least what was practiced back then. His parents were very likely advised to retract their son's foreskin for cleaning starting at birth. If you know the anatomy like you claim, you know that at that point in a boy's life, it is the equivalent of repeatedly ripping back your fingernails to clean under them and just as necessary and pleasant. The process creates open wounds that are then exposed to feces and urine. If I were a cynic, I would say that the America…
/r/MensRights19/05/10 02:59 PM
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Who cares what you and your friends think? Compared to this kid, you're old and outdated.
/r/MensRights18/05/10 11:03 PM
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The only way to be certain that your son won't be cut is to have you or your wife or trusted friends stay with him the entire time. Go with him for stuff like the heal prick or blood draws. When you are sleeping, make sure that you position yourself between the cradle and the door so that if a nurse tries to take him out for whatever reason, you wake up and can go with. If a nurse does attempt to take him for circumcision, ask to speak to the nursing supervisor (active duty hospital manager) and…
/r/MensRights18/05/10 06:14 PM
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Your references all refer to STDs. Newborns and infants aren't having sex. And even the STD studies are of dubious value in a developed nation because adult men have two choices if they want to be safe: Get circumcised and wear a condom. Wear a condom. Why would anyone with two brain cells to rub together choose option one? And seriously, if you are a circumcised male, would you feel comfortable with having unprotected sex with someone of unknown HIV status? Would you feel comfortable with your …
/r/MensRights22/04/10 04:45 PM
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This is rumor, not fact. As long as you don't retract the boy's foreskin, there isn't any reason for a problem. Breastfeeding is also very good at preventing infections of all kinds in newborns and infants. And if there is an infection, we have wonderful, cheap antibiotics and antifungals, none of which have any of the risk factors of circumcision.
/r/MensRights21/04/10 04:37 PM
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Your husband doesn't have a foreskin. He doesn't know what it is like to have one. How is he qualified to make any sort of value judgment?
/r/MensRights21/04/10 04:23 PM
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I bet he has problems wiping his ass, too. Should he have had his ass cheeks removed as an infant? Or maybe a lifetime colostomy bag? What about women with Alzheimer's? I bet they have trouble remembering to wipe after a tinkle. And think of the poor nursing home workers. Can you imagine how disgusting it must be to clean shit out of an incontinent woman's labia? It would be so much cleaner for them if they didn't have labia. Do smaller towns have penis parades? Is there a monthly penis check to…
/r/MensRights21/04/10 04:18 PM
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You're right, I should have made an exception for crises - both physical and mental. But absent that, the traits have usually been there in some form.
/r/MensRights02/04/10 01:03 PM
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I disagree. While initially the change might seem instant, it usually possible to see the pattern when you look back.
/r/MensRights01/04/10 10:46 PM
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In all parts of America, intact boys are a sizable minority and rates continue to drop. Your future sons won't be unique.
/r/MensRights01/04/10 11:11 AM
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LOL. Prevents diseases? Tell that to the cut guys who have HIV or any other STD. The U.S. leads the world in "medical" circumcision for "health" reasons as well as STD rates. Circumcision is like homeopathy. Its based on belief, not science.
/r/MensRights30/03/10 11:01 AM
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Newborn circumcision is like the used auto lot of the medical profession. Use any high pressure sales technique, no matter how dishonest, to seal the deal. The kid will grow up to defend how badly his parents were suckered, just like the guy who got ripped off at the auto lot will insist he got a good deal. It doesn't matter how badly the doctor fucked up or how many times that piece of shit car was in the shop. No one likes to admit that they were part of a tremendous act of gullibility.
/r/MensRights30/03/10 10:58 AM
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You're the one saying that its a good idea to give our newborn sons to the surgeon. The burden of proof is on you. You have to show the benefits of circumcisions and why they outweight the risks. You have to show that circumcision is the best way to acheive your indicated benefits and that there are no better ways to acheive those same benefits. You have to show why it is absolutely necessary to perform this surgery on a delicate newborn instead of waiting until the child is an adult. Good luck.
/r/MensRights25/03/10 10:49 PM
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Because unlike vaccination, newborn circumcision offers extremely minor potential benefits while risking glans amputation, MRSA infection, meatal stenosis, among other things. Any benefit that circumcision claims to offer can be acheived in a better, safer, and less expensive manner. In short, its rather like when adult women choose to get designer vaginas (labiaplasty) except that an infant boy has no say in the matter.
/r/MensRights25/03/10 11:01 AM
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Pervasive macho culture? We need more proof than what you have provided. I realize that its a lot more mundane to focus on factors like pay and work hours than to jump to the OMG SEXISM!!! conclusion.
/r/MensRights22/03/10 07:52 PM
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This is pretty absurd. I work at a medical branch of a major research University. The research wing is half women. The posters that they produce for various conferences show colaboration with research partners around the world - again, women play a prominent role and in many cases, dominate the research. There are no barriers to women in science. Talented researchers are welcomed with open arms. The problem with research science is the pay and the hours - both suck. At least in the life sciences…
/r/MensRights21/03/10 04:49 PM
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It would be very amusing to watch a bunch of science geeks totally destroy NaturalNews.
/r/MensRights15/03/10 03:58 PM
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NaturalNews is a pseudoscience promotion service and none of it is relevant to any of the issues in this subreddit.
/r/MensRights15/03/10 03:01 PM
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Its a tragedy that they don't do something effective.... like building a few condom factories in the affected countries and give condoms out for free.
/r/MensRights03/03/10 07:50 PM
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You're assuming correlation means causation just because of per capita statistics. If you had statistics of HIV rates in DC among circumcised men vs. uncircumcised men then it might mean something. In regards to your STD test question I'll repeat what I've said before: circumcision isn't 100% foolproof or guaranteed to work. However, if you were foolish enough not to use a condom during sex then being circumcised will lower your chance of acquiring an STD. It doesn't prevent it, but it lowers th…
/r/MensRights02/03/10 09:05 PM
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Everyone knows that condoms offer more protection against STDs than just plain old circumcision. However we all also know people do stupid things like have sex without condoms when they're young and feeling invincible as well as in the heat of passion. Why not give them the protection circumcision offers against that? Like I said circumcision performs as a second line of defense, a condom is the first one. When you consider the fact that the United States has the dubious distinction of having bo…
/r/MensRights02/03/10 08:33 PM
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So because I don't have a son I'm not allowed to make a comment about circumcision? My sister's doctors throughly explained the risks before they had the procedure done. Just because it wasn't done in your case doesn't make that the norm across America. Not at all, but as I suspected, you haven't ever been given the circumcision sales pitch. Your sister's OB really mentioned everything I mentioned in my previous post? I sincerely doubt it. Go ahead, ask her. Did they mention amputation? Did they…
/r/MensRights02/03/10 06:30 PM
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Parents are allowed to weigh their ideas, but that's wrong. Like any other surgical procedure, they should be forced to use a risk/benefit analysis. They do look at all the risks, a doctor isn't going to perform a procedure without explaining the risks to you. In their mind it does outweigh the potential risks. Have you ever had a son? My wife's OB explanation mentioned no risks of any kind and greatly exaggerated the benefits. Her list of benefits including locker room teasing, differences betw…
/r/MensRights02/03/10 06:08 PM
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Considering that circumcision is an optional procedure parents are allowed to weigh all the ideas they want when it comes to having it done or not. Parents are allowed to weigh their ideas, but that's wrong. Like any other surgical procedure, they should be forced to use a risk/benefit analysis. When the procedure is done right those risks you mention are at a minimum. And when it's not done right, they have most likely rendered their son a permanent virgin. What benefit is worth that? People ac…
/r/MensRights02/03/10 04:41 PM
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Why do parents' feelings have any place in a medical decision? Medical decisions for a child should be based on a strict risk/benefit analysis. No benefit of newborn circumcision is worth even the slightest risk of glans amputation, MRSA infection, an undiagnosed bleeding disorder, buried penis, or any of the other potential complications.
/r/MensRights02/03/10 04:14 PM
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Disgusting.
/r/MensRights20/02/10 05:10 PM
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Circumcision is really stupid.
/r/MensRights16/02/10 12:01 PM
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Many mens' social fraternity events are members only.
/r/MensRights04/02/10 11:56 AM
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And what if that child might face social ostracism with an uncut penis? Let's say he and his parents live in a strictly orthodox Jewish community. Would the parents be right in assuming that such a procedure is necessary for peer integration? Maybe they ought to move out of such a backwards community? Parents make lots of permanent decisions about the child's psyche. Children are routinely hounded by overzealous parents into taking up a musical instrument or playing a sport or studying academics…
/r/MensRights20/01/10 03:12 PM
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That seems an arbitrary line there. Why can your parents make certain permanent decisions in your life, but not others? Why does this particular decision engender such a profound negative reaction, but not others? If a parent makes a permanent decision, it should be one that is necessary. In the case of a medical procedure, there has to be very strong immediate benefits, relative to the risks. Newborn and religious circumcision have no immediate benefits, minimal potential benefits, and a lot of…
/r/MensRights16/01/10 02:27 PM
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I'm American. I'm cut. I'm not the "other". I'm not part of a "tribe." I'm an individual and should have been allowed to make my own choices about cosmetic genital surgery.
/r/MensRights15/01/10 12:32 PM
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Like I told the other guy, circumcision is a men's rights issue. When a male minor can be cut on the whim of his parents, that's misandry.
/r/MensRights15/01/10 12:31 PM
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Circumcision is a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights15/01/10 12:30 PM
15

Who are you to decide if the foreskin provides pleasure? Who are you to decide its value?
/r/MensRights15/01/10 03:08 AM
16

Israel has bigger misandry problems than a male tax. They share the U.S. fascination with cutting baby boys.
/r/MensRights14/01/10 11:47 PM
5

And it is only going to get worse as the HIV/Circumcision nonsense is pushed harder and harder.
/r/MensRights08/12/09 06:52 PM
4

Like in all situations, you have a limited quantity of shit you can start. If he were to protest T-shirts, then protest baby cutting, then he would be labeled a trouble maker and possibly kicked out. Its a case of picking battles, and protecting baby boys is far more important then some dumb t-shirts.
/r/MensRights25/11/09 08:51 PM
8

Doctors don't have to participate in abortions. There's a conscious clause on the books. If you make a decent case, you can certainly get out of doing circumcisions and hopefully educate your peers.
/r/MensRights25/11/09 08:49 PM
8

You can make a bigger difference for men if you were to protest having to mutilate baby boys as part of your Residency.
/r/MensRights25/11/09 08:07 PM
7

Nope. I'm a liberal/progressive and am quite disgusted by the teabagger phenomenon.
/r/MensRights20/11/09 03:37 PM
-1

In the case of consensual sex and no birth defects or risks to the mother, I believe that the father should be able to have a say. If the mother wants to abort and the father does not, the father should be required to pay related medical bills, provide reasonable support during the pregnancy, and to assume responsibility immediately after the child is born. The mother would be cut out of the child's life and allowed no contact. If the mother engages in hazardous activies with the purpose of hurt…
/r/MensRights15/11/09 12:44 AM
1

You'd think the Swedes would know better.
/r/MensRights14/11/09 10:11 PM
6

Link to where anti-circumcision people favor third trimester abortions of healthy babies.... not found.
/r/MensRights07/11/09 11:10 PM
-1

Have to justify cutting up baby penis somehow. Doctors and mohels have to make money.
/r/MensRights07/11/09 11:10 PM
0

Glad that my Northern neighbors have their heads on straight. Now if the CDC and the AAP could get a clue...
/r/MensRights05/11/09 11:43 PM
0

Is circumcision free? Does it protect women? No and no. If the Governments and NGOs really wanted to make a difference, they'd contract Trojan to build a condom factory in Kenya or SA or wherever and give the condoms away for free. Instead, they waste money on measures that won't work.
/r/MensRights04/11/09 12:05 PM
0

Compromise: Leave a bowl of candy on your porch.
/r/MensRights31/10/09 08:22 PM
-2

Sound's like a priest's wet dream. But in all seriousness, I don't see the point.
/r/MensRights23/10/09 06:16 PM
0

I'm all for HPV vaccination. And as a bonus, the pro-circ perverts won't be able to hold up the "penile cancer" flag when trying to con naive parents into cutting their sons.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 11:46 PM
7

Speak for yourself. Mine was taken by a greedy fuck when I was a day old.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 11:43 PM
8

I always wonder about American doctors and their motivation. We know that penile cancer, an admittedly rare cancer, is caused by HPV. Doctors don't want to vaccinate boys against HPV/penile cancer because it isn't cost effective, but they'll push circumcision to prevent penile cancer. Circumcision, a surgical procedure, is far more expensive in both money and side effects. Of course, giving a shot doesn't make a doctor much money at all, but circumcision is the gift that keeps on giving. First t…
/r/MensRights15/10/09 11:04 PM
11

None of the generally accepted reasons for circumcision are good enough to justify surgery on a newborn baby. Its 2009, not 500 BC. We have antibiotics, running water, and condoms and most of us don't live in desert tents. A lot of the feminist-type support for circumcision revolves around misandry. They love the "hygiene" nonsense because they consider males too stupid to clean their genitals.
/r/MensRights15/10/09 10:58 AM
28

Equally disgusting is the fact that she had them circumcised. I wonder if that was a form of vengence on the poor little guys.
/r/MensRights14/10/09 09:47 PM
2

Piercings and circumcisions are a-ok. Just don't upset the herd and you can do what you want to your kids. That's the nature of our country. Its sad.
/r/MensRights01/10/09 09:35 PM
4

This is a hard question. Its hard to poll men after circumcision. If the circumcision ruined their sexual experience, they're not going to willingly admit they fucked up their own body. If the circumcision was done for medical reasons and corrected the medical problem, then sex would probably be better. However, this does not apply to men without problems. If a man says he loves being circumcised right after the circumcision is done, you'd have to poll him after a year, 5 years, and 10 years to …
/r/MensRights01/10/09 02:43 PM
1

We live in the Midwest, which has the highest circumcision rates in the nation. When my son was born, he was with my wife or me the entire time. We didn't let him out of our sight. "Accidents" have been known to happen and they generally assume that everyone wants it done. Doctors provide little or no information, and if they do, its generally inaccurate, exaggerated, or irrelevant. We had a homebirth next time around to avoid this nerve racking experience.
/r/MensRights01/10/09 02:35 PM
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