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That's pretty darn racists in a abusive way that serves no purpose other than to bully.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:11 AM
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Wow she's awful, I can't believe the benign tweets she passes off as abuse. Notice how she brands ME a racist, despite pointing out how black men are affected to. That girl is a vile bigot with a huge chip on her shoulder sitting in for a brain. I think this girl needs her Asian privileged checked so remind her that her demographic earns more than whites and can't possibly count themselves as a under privileged group by any practical measure. It's always the privileged feminists who act a fool m…
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:09 AM
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Can you please tell them that men make up 25-30% of campus sexual assault victims. I still can't believe I'm the only one saying this but none of these wanna be gender scholar seems to have actually looked at a study of campus sexual violence with BOTH GENDERS but want to pretend their experts on the subject. Print a copy of this study and hand it to them because it's the best and most detailed I've found. "About 15% of women and 8% of men in our Geneseo sample were severely sexual assaulted (i.…
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:29 AM
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Apparently using words to discuss problems that arise issues is unwelcoming to people and too 'old school' and intimidating. "Wikipedia is not only an unwelcoming place to female editors, it's unwelcoming to most people," Lih says. "It's an old-school online community... and it has a tradition of verbal fighting and verbal debate. In the best cases, that leads to things that inform and inspire. In the worst cases, they lead to people feeling intimidated and uncomfortable."
/r/MensRights08/04/14 06:22 PM
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Feminists emerged first and MRA's were a push for men's liberation akin to women's liberation that emerged from feminists perspectives. So if we take it back to the 1970's the two could have merged or cooperated but that didn't happen. Feminists were fixated on male bashing their way to equality which is a tradition they haven't dropped to this day. A even more serious answer can be found in the work of Warren Farrell. From his wiki: "He came to prominence in the 1970s as one of the leading male…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 06:15 PM
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Feminists aren't fighting for equality, they are lobbying to get things for women often at the expense of men whether or not it's equal or fair. It's about getting as much as you can not equality. The sexes grow up in the same homes and go to the same schools so they already were mostly equal to begin with. Their life choices then diverge resulting in disparities feminists call 'inequality' only when it's a disparity they see as negatively impacting women. The wide array of areas where men appea…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 06:01 PM
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but it's a bit troublesome when I come over here to see the MRA side of things and it's full of comments calling women cunts. Well what did that particular women do? I rarely see comments such as you describe either way and I think your use of hyperbole here is unhelpful. The only 'cunt' reference came from you in this thread and now me quoting you. Tell me do you police every nasty reference to men in SRS? If not then don't bother doing it here. We try to take our equality seriously.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 05:52 PM
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The MRA response to work place deaths and the wage gap are the sexes making different life choices. If not our 93% male prison population in the millions would be bigger issues or the 80% male suicide rate with 30,000 victims, or the 79% male homicide rate with 12,000 victims before the 4000 or so victims of work place death. (edit: numbers just counting male victim estimate) What we see here is a lack of compassion for men across the board. Few care what happens to men and that's the problem we…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 05:44 PM
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I think people just have more compassion for women than they do men. I don't see the disconnect as being inspired by the politics so much as the culture as a whole being more apt to aide a women in need than a man.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 05:37 PM
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One group is dominated by manipulative liars (and ill informed) trying to defend bad gender theories from the 1970's and 80's that have long been proven false such as their assertions about gender violence being primarily male on female. Due to the amount of misinformation people form the wrong conclusions and buy into these outdated world views. Men's rights is empowered by the truth while feminists find themselves running from it. The real goal is equal compassion for men and boys. We can't ha…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 05:33 PM
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The cover up of female on male abuse is on going and has been taking place for around 40 years. Read this for a primer on the domestic violence cover up. Read this for a primer on sexual violence cover up I don't expect you to understand either if you just stepped in the conversation so read this CDC report and pay attention to the 12 month numbers. Compare 12 month and lifetime rates and you'll see in the media the more relevant 12 month stat is ignored despite it being the only one showing the…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 05:30 PM
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If at all possible avoid conflating race and gender because they aren't even close to the same issue. For the record poor people period are seen as a underprivileged group as can be seen in the 'poor peoples campaign' MLK was advancing before his death that united poor whites and blacks. The most general way of framing Men's rights is a cause that demand equal compassion for men and boys. When these people need help they should be helped in the same manner a women would. When we get into legal r…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 05:23 PM
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Do you have picture of the flyer so we can test the veracity of our argument? "There is no wage gap if the only differing factor is gender" doesn't make much sense. It's more like the wage gap can be explained by differing life choices made by the sexes. There is a wage gap, and it's how that gap is explained that we have a problem with.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:03 PM
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He's just saying that's not what we're really about. Shitting on feminism is a means to an end since feminism get's in the way of helping men and boys by spreading lies, misinformation, and negative stereotypes. It's like saying the civil rights movement wasn't about being against the Klan but the Klan was clearly something they had to deal with.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:51 AM
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I would much rather self criticism keep coming because the lame post are a distraction to more important issues we could be discussing. When something important does happen I notice it gets far less attention than some random imgur post of something someone didn't like on face book.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:48 AM
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Nice to see more black MRA's around. There is plenty of support for fighting mass incarceration and it doesn't get sidelined like it would with feminists who can care less what happens to minority men.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:40 AM
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Why not call himself queer? Do you want people who aren't white cis males to hide their true identities? I don't agree with that and the macro movement deals in social justice issues impacting a great many minority groups whose issues need to be heard. I think intersectionality is B.S in how feminists have implemented it but I think the least that MRA's can do is respect other groups issues are out there and they may overlap with the MRA macro agenda. Having minorities identify as minorities is …
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:36 AM
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Queer theory and feminism are not one and the same. They nonetheless co-opted the LGBTQ movement along with anti racism to expand their largess. I think you should be looking to take it back so it's not misused to attack you for being male as we've seen with black males who cosign the feminist agenda. Being in a marginalized group doesn't make you safe from white feminist hegemony and it's dilution of real minority issues. That's even before we get into their over the top man hating that they us…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:30 AM
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Both sexes get bitter towards the opposite sex and I really don't think we need to go overboard condemning people who've been put through the wringer emotionally by abusive people. Feminists are notorious for their bitterness towards men but you won't be posting this at /r/feminism because you give women a pass for that kind of stuff like most people. The alternative is you post it and people will call you an MRA.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:13 AM
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Why is this being posted here? Are we angry the male student has too many rights or the teacher not enough? There is no men's right issue here and it comes down to the administrative policies regarding teachers dealing with violent students in general.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:09 AM
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These male feminists run on pure propaganda detached from modern reality with all sorts of myths about what constitutes oppression. Sometimes you wonder if they are trying to convince others or themselves when they speak considering their over reliance on historic basis for claiming oppression rather than any modern day barriers in a culture that long ago accepted gender equality. Let's not underestimate the appeal of playing champion for women among for men. That's one patriarchal tradition we'…
/r/MensRights07/04/14 04:58 PM
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More over privileged women whining loudly because they can easily get plugged in a place like the NY Times for doing so. People have to wake up to the reality of women playing these victim games to get stuff from men. Trying to attach reason to these victim claims is pointless because it's intentionally emotion driven and vague. That's the only way you can promote such a dishonest narrative without being laughed at. The objective of the complainers is clear. They want all industry to dedicate th…
/r/MensRights07/04/14 04:48 PM
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He seems a tad too self absorbed but he's fine. He's self aware enough to note his narcissistic tendencies which means he'll probably come around. I left a message and it's not one of pity or compassion because people whining about dental hygiene and wanting a seat in a computer lab don't bring that out of me.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 10:34 PM
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Welcome to the movement. I was banned at the Guardian not long ago and these censorship efforts will back fire as the public grows impatient with controlling feminists ideologues grasping for power using manipulative tactics. Societies and cultures have changed but feminists ideas have not evolved with them. They are stuck in the past and men and women who were raised to see each other as equals won't show the kind of patience prior generations did who were meaningfully engaged in the gender rol…
/r/MensRights04/04/14 10:12 PM
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If you knew more about men's rights you'd probably be teaching your daughter not to rape because we hold that men are just about as likely to be victims according to studies. Then again we think studies have inflated numbers and we're in a climate of rape hysteria. That would include some degree of false accusation hysteria but since the society doesn't talk about it enough we need to raise awareness while we can. Sure teach her not to falsely accuse, no harm in that but realize bearing false wi…
/r/MensRights04/04/14 10:08 PM
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Those are just the famous people.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 10:03 PM
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"The state disbursed about $24 million for domestic violence services last year, but that certainly is not all the money spent. Today domestic violence is a big industry in Massachusetts. " Domestic violence grants by state from one federal program Total TOTAL $ 378,964,893 for 2013 Just one school's story: "After three controversies and $5 million dollars, UNC’s handling of the events points to two questions: Was the money well spent? Was looking externally the right thing to do? No and no, sai…
/r/MensRights04/04/14 07:44 AM
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Your teacher is wrong. Rape is defined as penetration and men can be penetrated. Sadly no matter what a person does to a man's gentials it won't be counted as rape.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 07:22 AM
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I don't think running and hiding is the way to go. We confront and agitate like we've done for a long time because the truth and justice are on our side. We don't have to brigade anything because going it alone in the fight one on one or one on one hundred is something MRA's have had to do for a long time. I've been banned so many places I wonder how I keep track. Just got banned by the Guardian a few days ago.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 06:58 AM
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Just got a reply on that post: This is beautifully written, it never actually crossed my mind to have such a movement. Society has conditioned me to be the brawn, stoic man that provides for my family, but really we're all human in the end. I keep comparing this to the Japanese culture, on how there is way too much pressure for you to succeed, and if you don't you dishonor the entire bloodline, leading to seppuku. Thank you so much for the kind words, I'm grateful for you showing your understand…
/r/MensRights04/04/14 06:54 AM
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They can have a ball with their perpetual victim routine. Then they wonder why we get worked up about false allegations....
/r/MensRights04/04/14 06:39 AM
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Can you write a real fucking post? This lazy single sentence shit is insulting.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 06:35 AM
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keep your eye on the ball considering how easy it to find intolerance among conservatives.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 12:33 AM
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She said 'white men' not white people. She's emulating white women attacking white men, so this is really about feminist targeting their gender hostility at the one class of man whose least likely illicit sympathy as a victim class. I recommend white men return the favor by calling out the privileged lives of white feminists who have little in common with even poorer whites who struggles are ignored with poor minorities. This is about elites are fighting to gain power for themselves and it's whi…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 11:00 PM
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Who the fuck are you calling a troll? I'm talking about kids abusing the system which they can do just like women or men. If we have the state deciding 'emotional abuse' you end up with a system that disallows speaking about things other people don't want to hear. That's an area of regulation I'd rather keep the state out of in regards to imposing criminal penalties. You're acting like fool here. Nobody said anything about imprisoning kids but you'll make up stuff to make some drama. That's whac…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 10:52 PM
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Men's Rights can spread information about any number of statistics that would blow peoples minds because so few people know about it. We can be the pamphleteers the anti-MRA manosphere thinks we are instead of the keyboard warriors we have been.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 10:45 PM
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Great, I'll be going there to defend Men's Rights. Edit: I came I saw I flouted the 'rules'
/r/MensRights03/04/14 10:15 PM
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I'm seriously disappointed by her use of the 77 cent claim. If we want to let everyone else know what everyone is making that's fine but I for one am sick of this white feminist agenda that pretends the only pa gap disparities that exists in the world worth noting are gender related with women being the losers even though every race except Asians in either gender earn less than the white women's dollar. The fact is white feminists set the agenda and we should be calling them on it because it's t…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 09:12 PM
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The problem is statistics do a far better job of exposing male victimization than they do proving false accusations which can't effectively be measured since we can't prove or disprove most accusations. The fight for due process is a moral one more so than a statistical argument. There are a ton of false accusation cases we could reference but that's anecdotal evidence. I think you need to fall back on common sense and the rejection of this 'rape culture' argument that will now doubt be the basi…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 04:04 PM
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The point of these links is to bring MRA's into the conversation but that won't happen if the links are nothing but facebook post copied on to Imgur. MRA's derailing the conversation and in my opinion putting it back on the rails is how we managed to change the conversation thus far. We need to branch out further and inject ourselves offline into those conversations on gender. Our duty is to agitate and speak truth to power. Let's not forget the larger ambition of changing hearts and minds. Good…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 03:58 PM
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You wouldn't need so many rape poems if you knew the statistics on male victimization because then they wouldn't think it was all about those evil men wanting their magic vaginas. They talk about rape then complain about sexy ads and heels. It's a their theory of rape culture right out of wave feminists propaganda but some how their outrage should be taken seriously since they use words like 'damn' and 'rape' in a sentence. These children milk rape like the attention chasers before them who expl…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 08:58 PM
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I really wish conservatives would leave their politics out of their anti feminism because there are as many holes in their ideologically driven ideas as there are in feminism. For example guns aren't going to prevent rape. You don't want a every binge drinking women frat party armed with a pistol. I'm also betting she'd be more likely to pull it on another women who pissed her off considering how frequently women fight each other. The gun crazies need to chill out. I know they think guns are gre…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 07:09 PM
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Bye Bye racial profiling HELLO gender profiling.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 05:10 PM
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Children are also capable of abusing parents through false accusation. This is a slippery slope and I don't think you want the UK government with it's invasive nanny state deciding if you can speak harshly to your child when they cross the line. Of course you can expect them to have double standards of enforcement that favor girls over boys and mothers will be accusing fathers of abusing their children emotionally for failing to do whatever mommy says. I really think it's a bad idea because it's…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 05:09 PM
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Why are you posting this here? This is men's rights not Pro Life.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 04:55 PM
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I think refusing to do the assignment is the way to go but you can also offer to write a paper on the way that men are oppressed in it's place.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 04:53 PM
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I think you should post www.fearus.org by itself. More people need to see it and I don't see any past post on it.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 04:40 PM
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We already give child tax credits so I don't see what's revolutionary about this idea. I see no violation of men's rights here. Men have kids too.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 04:32 PM
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It would not have been against journalistic ethics to point out the clear double standard being advanced.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 04:29 PM
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I would fear developing the feminist circle of unthinking support. She's indeed a human being but her first talk was vastly superior to the second and I don't think she was really prepared to be in a room full of hostile activists trying to tear her down. I respect her courage and that of all the out and about MRA's taking people on face to face by repeating the same unpopular ideas we employ from the safety of anonymity. The thing is if you're going to risk so much for a cause then you ought do…
/r/MensRights31/03/14 04:01 PM
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Eating their own ? I think you people on the right can learn something for this. When your extremist get out of line you CHECK THEM! You don't let them run your entire party with stupid eliminationist rhetoric that makes you sound like a bunch of wanna be fascist with similarly insane demands. Try checking your own mess which includes the racists in your midst pushing their birther conspiracy theories while our President is nearly halfway through his second term. You people need to get it togeth…
/r/MensRights31/03/14 06:07 AM
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Left out straight, or cis, or cischet.
/r/MensRights31/03/14 05:53 AM
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Happy someone put it on youtube. I think this incident is like the RAINN denunciation of rape culture but for the deliberate and abusive shunning of white males by modern feminism. Without a doubt out of all men they are the most denigrated in this cult of man hate despite the movement itself being founded and perpetrated primarily by white women. The madness must stop. Human dignity isn't something we ought put on the bargaining table in order to gain acceptance from the women in our midst. If …
/r/MensRights31/03/14 05:53 AM
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I agree let's limit post to those that are very popular. It would lead to less time wasting conversations being repeated over and over while major issues get buried.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 08:11 PM
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Give me a break. We have loads of feminists out there with tons of content we can get mad at. We supposed to be heading up a movement not employing in depth critical analysis on some young woman's desire to blame men for her problems. The movement is bigger than her, it's the larger context we're trying to alter.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 08:10 PM
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Freedom is good but we don't have complete freedom to post whatever we like as is and the flood of social media content has become counter productive. If that were a valid approach we could just post feminists blogs here all day and get mad at them time and again. We should be educating people on men's issues. The mission of educating MRA's needs to take precedence over picking the low hanging fruit every chance we get because a uninformed MRA's don't even know how to evaluate the impact these s…
/r/MensRights30/03/14 08:07 PM
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I think we should set any post from facebook, or tumblr at a minimum of 30,000 likes, reblogs, or whatever. We stopped talking about serious men's issues and people looking men's issues here aren't getting the information they need. We need to post more studies, more articles on serious issues affecting men. We've gotten seriously off track here and we're drifting into irrelevance as a resource.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 08:03 PM
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Wow another black man! It get's lonely sometimes for us minority MRA's but I had to look out for by white brothers by posting this interview because nobody should denied the opportunity to discuss issues on account of their race or gender. That kind of systematic marginalization is unacceptable and it takes us backwards rather than forwards. Not having a open dialogue with all parties involved too often leads to manufacture of self serving confirmation bias or even outright hate towards those wh…
/r/MensRights30/03/14 06:11 PM
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That was a great rebuttal. You really schooled me there and I appreciate it. I suppose I was to anxious to declare victory to escape the burden of confronting all that unfairness on a conscious level day after day. Reducing it to the stuff that smacks you in the face (which can be literal) at least gives you a ready filter that doesn't require much critical analysis. Then again we have the old dismantling the patriarchy perspective which feminists often suggest which isn't what we're aiming for …
/r/MensRights30/03/14 05:34 PM
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I see the response on raw story and it's doing a good job of exposing double standards. I still wouldn't want to be the guy out front defending it.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 04:56 PM
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But again because of the patriarchy men are seen as the 'strong tough' people that beat and women as 'snowflakes' that don't harm. I'm pretty sure biology has something to do with the emergence of that bias. Sounds like you scapegoat patriarchy to avoid dealing with complex questions. But again why it's not focused on is that only 3% of rapes are men. That other 97% is female. Rape is a sexist definition of 'forced sex' that erases most male victims and you wonder why there are so few male victi…
/r/MensRights30/03/14 04:42 PM
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Were you so ignorant of MRA's that you thought we didn't know the facts on sexual violence? I think we know more than most feminists because unlike feminists we must know the victimization of both sexes to make our case. Do you appreciate when MRA's educate you on sexual violence? Do you realize the use of the word "Rape" effectively erases most male victimization? Sexual violence or sexual assault would be fine.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 04:29 PM
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You only have one single gender issue listed and that's abortion. Everything else is only gendered by way of indifference to male circumstances. A male suffering a glass ceiling for whatever reason would be ignored. Male sexual victimization is ignored. Male sexual objectification is ignored. The gender gaps that negatively affect men are ignored. These issues are all a result of highly selective outrage.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 04:22 PM
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I was really proud of this guy for standing up for himself and still keeping his composure. Yes he did call her idea stupid, but it was stupid. We need more acts of courage like this and women's activist will get the message. It's time we stop volunteering to be subjugated by any feminist with an axe to grind. Resistance is NOT futile.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 03:02 AM
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Men are willing to put up with a lot of hate from women. It's pretty remarkable how much it takes to push them to the breaking point. It's the classic case of kindness being taken for weakness. Men love women and that trust is abused by cynical activists who manipulate naive young women into embracing a man hating ideology. The equality talk is pure propaganda. For influential activists activists protecting the power that comes with being a feminists first and foremost. That's why they fight so …
/r/MensRights30/03/14 02:57 AM
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So much for that bystander intervention the anti rape activist keep talking about because it's only marketed to protect women. I have never ever seen any intervention directed at protecting men.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 02:47 AM
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The hardest thing for people to understand is men aren't included in rape stats because no matter what a person does to a man's genitals (penis) it won't be defined as rape in studies or under the law. Rape is defined by penetration and male victimization is mostly due to being 'forced to penetrate'. Insist they can't measure male victims by rape statistics alone, that would be sexist and erase those victimized by way of their external gentialia. CDC NISVS 2010 (table 2) reports as many men were…
/r/MensRights30/03/14 02:36 AM
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This is exactly why I think we should stay away from the issue. All press isn't good press.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 04:17 PM
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I seriously don't care about self defense classes for women. I think complaining about it is a petty and a waste of time. Worse yet it makes MRA's look bad. I think we should drop the issue.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 10:34 PM
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It's feminism so of course it's going to be sexist. It's just a question of which sexist aspects you're going to challenge.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 10:20 PM
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Debating feminism isn't hard but it requires you do your homework if you wish to be competent like many other things. If you don't have time to get your study on then focus on the 'gender gap in higher education' and why it hasn't been elevated to a major issue. You can google that and get the run down. There are other issues like domestic and sexual violence symmetry but I doubt you've read those studies. A simple question to raise is why 'rape' doesn't include men being 'forced to penetrate'. …
/r/MensRights28/03/14 10:20 PM
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We don't need gender roles to function, we need adults doing what needs doing regardless of their sex.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 09:36 PM
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Yeah it's been pretty bad for discussing real men's issues but I think the frivolities will die down. Things are changing fast in the mainstream in that their picking up men's issues left and right. I'd like to think our little movement had a lot to do with breaking the fear barrier feminists created. This particular women I think might have been the same one who wrote the piece in the Shriver report that was the TL;DR for this one.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 08:21 PM
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I started flinging indirect insults but moved towards advocacy for males which was more effective. We're still resistant to playing victim to the extent women do, but boys are a victim class we must stand up for without flinching.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 08:16 PM
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Good articles covering men's issues are rare. I'm sure you've read longer one's on women's issues in your lifetime. Not that many women researchers who write books on single moms publicly make an about face and start defending fathers.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 08:15 PM
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The radicals are the people who don't read articles because they are from Mother Jones. If those on the right can't get their act together I'm going to treat them just like feminist. I read stories from both sides of the aisle because men's rights issues come first at /r/mensrights not my or your political B.S. Mother Jones broke the story on the K.B.R false rape accuser that actually lead to a bill in her name. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/kbr-could-win-jamie-leigh-jones-rape-tri…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 08:11 PM
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Why? I see no reason not to link to Mother Jones.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 08:08 PM
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I for one think the men here are fairly calm and well behaved considering what they know. They have every right to be screaming mad with the outrages they've had to put up with in order to pacify a minority of deeply sexist women suffering from a victim complex. It's not a sub to please women. Men have a need to deal with their issues and they are many. Some involve women and those need to be called BAD for the things they've done. That doesn't happen enough in the wider society that would make …
/r/MensRights28/03/14 08:06 PM
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I didn't tweet anything about catcalling. I passed on those stats along with the list from Ally Fogg's FTB post on female sexual aggression.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 08:02 PM
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Yes he does mention his male friends who also were conditioned into this mind set in a culture where feminism's gender revolution ignored male victims of sexual abuse. As he said what else were they going to do but laugh. They don't get to be sad, cry, or play the victim.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 08:00 PM
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In essence, what you're saying is that there's a conspiracy Yes that's exactly what I am saying. I am honestly not certain how to proceed from here, as anything I argue will undoubtedly prove that I am part of this vast conspiracy. Ideologies protecting themselves from scrutiny by critics is nothing new. When ideologues on mass participate in massive campaigns of misinformation they with or without consent join a vast conspiracy. The fact these misinformation campaigns have gone on for decades s…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 07:58 PM
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False flag attacks are a real risk when ideologically driven individuals come to the mind set that the ends always justify the means.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 05:06 PM
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This is why I support calling out white women for being privileged. I have nothing against white women or women in general but by forcing their own privilege back in their face the white men they so often attack can find some space to enlarge the conversation. White men are reluctant to call white women out for being their equals and thus equally privileged(or greater) to the degree of white men through intermarriage, growing up in the same homes, inheriting wealth and attending the same schools…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:58 PM
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In short I'd say the problem is we as a culture love women and feminists abused the protected status women have always had in order further an agenda of anti male bias. They have entrenched that bias so deeply while claiming to fight for equality. We're trying to correct that bias and until true statistics on male/female victimization come to the fore at least in academic and media circles we're going to continue to see that bias perpetuated.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:50 PM
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That's good to hear. Since we can't possibly audit them all as individuals we are dependent on accounts from those who attended these programs who aren't feminists but his course is but a drop in the bucket.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:44 PM
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Men's studies and 'male studies' are not the same thing. Men's studies is based on feminism and it's inherent male negative bias makes it apart of the problem rather than apart of the solution.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:42 PM
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It reveals nothing but their hypocrisy. The double standard is one they perpetrated by marginalizing male victims and the reality of female perpetrators for decades.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:41 PM
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The MRM doesn't go around calling men 'oppressed' does it? You seem to be confusing men's activism with the manipulative B.S white women use to get over on white men who's last gender role was supporting them from cradle to grave by working themselves to the bone. There is most certainly a case for male 'oppression' but I much prefer if privileged people stopped using it as a weapon in their personal battles for high status roles. Now we do have some people of all races in the underclasses who d…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:29 PM
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Knock it off. I would much rather they come here and engage. The last thing we need is another brain dead group thinking circle jerk. Heck I said darn near the same thing to get banned at /r/feminism. I called the problems their fighting over petty, and I still think they are.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:25 PM
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We don't need first hand experience. We have Larry Summers and a host of others who's careers were ruined on account of a single off hand comment that suggested the possibility of innate gender differences beyond our bodies producing disparities between the sexes that didn't positively favor women. Of course if some one declared men to be innately violent we'd here crickets.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:24 PM
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I think feminists in academia punch above their weight so to speak. Making noise can be quite effective when the person listening is culturally or naturally predisposed towards greater sympathy for the gender being discussed. We deal with feminists influence everyday so we know it's not a 'benign' problem created by marginal individuals but a vast network of individuals using the data and theories provided by these academics past and present to set public policy. They have been extremely effecti…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:21 PM
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Neither Marxist thought nor socialism are the toxic ills we seek to fight here. IMO the class struggle is rather self evident, it's the porting to the gender struggle that's a problem. Marx may have suggested it but it's far from the central core of his work. The right wing extremist response of labeling every act of government beyond defense and policing 'socialism' seem more like unthinking propaganda than the any real practical basis for running a modern nation. The redistribution of resource…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:15 PM
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Feminism is well-regarded by virtue of its explanatory power - there really is no other framework with which to interpret gender in the social or cultural sphere. That's like basing science on the rhetorical appeal of the scientist speaking. Feminism is chuck full of thought ceasing cliches, presumptive gender bias, the over application of stereotypes as evidence, and the intentional suppression of certain data to make one's arguments. It's a synthetic creature that only gained respect because i…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:07 PM
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The feminists frame work is gender biased to the core and just like feminists had abandoned old frame works to escape bias, men too should abandon that frame work when it comes to their own sex. If a independent frame work arrived at the same conclusions then we might be able to talk about merging the two. Until then the inherent bias in feminists thought make objective analysis virtually impossible.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:03 PM
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Turn taking is the sort of weak evidence that those who have really nothing to work with would resort to. They might as well predict that men will make up 90% of the prison population in most nations or women will bear children 100% of the time. The average passivity of women and the average aggressiveness of men is a behavioral reality that if anything suggest feminists are wrong about socialization being the main factor in determining these outcomes.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:00 PM
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I'll admit that some of it is very bad indeed, though that is no reason to discard all of it. You don't base public policy on theories that aren't based on empirical evidence like the Duluth model of domestic violence. Even if that is true, why should universities ignore the last 300 years of human thought just because you choose to do so? If 300 years of literature can't serve as a objective basis for finding scientifically provable perspectives on humanity then we might as well abandon that wh…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 03:54 PM
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To the extent that the MRM has any real insights, they will be proven right. Academics are researchers first, and ideologues second. That your worldview does not correspond with what researchers, academics and experts are saying does not mean that they are conspiring against you. They are forced to present a biased picture because academia has for so long been conspiring to disregard evidence of gender symmetry in sexual and domestic violence that the culture of academia itself has become the so…
/r/MensRights28/03/14 03:45 PM
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The MRM has been actively suppressed by entrenched interest in academia trying to protect their social and institutional power. There isn't much more to this aside from the patriarchal cultural biases they exploit to accomplish this end which are further reinforced by the use of biased or one sided statistics. We've been having this serious discussion for quite some time and you can find books attacking feminists in academia going back decades written by feminists themselves.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 03:29 PM
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Rather than just calling them stupid it would have been better if you got on the trend and discussed the victimization of men and boys. There were very few people doing so but the reception was surprisingly warm.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 01:23 AM
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Nice this would have been good on the #RapeCultureIsWhen trend.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 07:24 AM
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You can pass out links to MRA sites, or articles on twitter. It's a pretty intense trend. You'd reach a lot of people.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 11:12 PM
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We're the underdogs trying to be heard by as many people as possible. If the media doesn't give us the coverage we don't have much else. Twitter can work but you need more brains to squeeze a good idea into 144 characters minus the hashtag.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 11:11 PM
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I hate the fact MRA's don't get on twitter. I see Paul Elam and the AVFM crew but the men of /r/mensrights would rather sit on their hands while feminists define the debate. We can actually make a huge difference with a few dozen people but I guess that's expecting too much. This is pathetic.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:14 PM
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As usual nobody shows up for the twitter battles. I hope that will change when more young men get involved. I think the best thing we can do on this trend is direct focus to male victims. For example: '#'rapecultureiswhen feminsts ignore male victims to make women look more oppressed. *
/r/MensRights25/03/14 08:55 PM
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You should have watched the videos. It's not what you think it is, it's what we're saying it is. The program is effectively a young male shaming program to saturate them with guilt over what women don't have rather than uplift boys and give them pride in themselves. It's trying to force women's issues on them as a central concern instead of their own. They aren't taught to feel compassion for boys, they are taught compassion for girls. They aren't taught girls need to treat them well, they are t…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 02:53 PM
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conflating porn with "masculinity" so that you can accuse someone being critical of one with being critical of the other. Male sexuality, and masculinity are certainly on the nexus of male identity. Porn contains some expression of male sexuality be it gay or straight.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 02:49 PM
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You could also, I dunno, maybe talk to boys about the ways in which porn can influence them in problematic ways, so that they can be forewarned. Warned about what? That they might want to engage in sex acts seen in porn? Of course that's what people do when they have sex, sex acts. Porn itself isn't too far removed from the basic mechanics of sex. I fail to see the huge negative influence that must be averted. We've had people come of age in the age easy access porn and they are fine. If anythin…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 02:47 PM
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Why did you think porn made for human males was about horse sexuality? Yes porn does tell us things about male sexuality, mainly that they like looking at naked women engaged in sex acts because they desire sex with women. There is no great evil here to be purged. The compulsion to do this speaks more to female insecurity than anything else. It's like men being threatened by women's sex toys.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 02:39 PM
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Did you watch the video's? You don't help boys telling boys they suck and must change to make women happy. What pisses this sub off is that feminists abuse of boys with negative stereotyping, gender shaming, male sexuality shaming, isn't close to the sort of compassion for men and boys that we're promoting. It's naked hostility repackaged as a lecture on gender equality. This cannot stand. The inclusion of girls somehow pisses this subreddit off, and yet so many guys here complain about how femi…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 02:36 PM
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This is old news to me and I was actively tweeting against misandry when it was trending. Where was r/mensrights? I've noticed this sub doesn't step up in the twitter wars. It's a great opportunity to get things going if feminists hitting the abuse button doesn't get your account temporarily suspended. That abuse button by the way was something feminists demanded to protect them from 'abuse' AKA 'conflicting views'. So long as you post to the hashtag and instead of replying to their tweets you'l…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 02:32 PM
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. The more oppressed you are, the more emotion you can elicit; thus, the more "right" you are--it's not about facts; it's about feels. Being more oppressed does not make you more likely to elicit emotion. A troubled young white female in America will elicit more emotion than a enslaved Nepalese man working in 120 degree heat to build the World Cup stadium in Qatar whose passport is being held so he can't go home without the permission of his captors. Oppression itself is just a word to invoke em…
/r/MensRights25/03/14 02:23 PM
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In that case you should ask yourselves why don't straight white men turn around and critique the higher wages of never married childless white women? Why aren't they attacking Asian men for their higher wages? Straight white men as a category are not the ones at the top of the wage pyramid.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 02:16 PM
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Equal compassion for men is certainly an aspect of gender equality feminist consistently fail to deliver if they aren't outright discouraging it.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 12:06 AM
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You don't need a background in anti male sexism to see the wrong in advancing the ideology promoting it.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 08:47 PM
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RAINN was smart to denounce this mad propaganda power play by radical feminists trying to use phony rape culture hysteria to force others to do their bidding. Bigots using fear mongering to marginalize innate groups is nothing new.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 08:45 PM
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We have 17 comments here and 5 on that article. Your voices need to be heard by those outside this forum.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 08:41 PM
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You should have been able to rebut that 1% statistic which has been done many times over. Women in USA alone own 5-6% of world wealth. I suggest you print out one of the many debunking articles or blogs and hand it to her. It really helps to know these issues inside and out before you try and debate a feminists so you can force them to deal with hard questions they can't dodge instead of resorting to propaganda. They see what's coming and avoiding the truth is going to be their tactic going forw…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:18 PM
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This is a great example of how they are psychologically abusing boys by turning treating their male sexuality as some kind of social disease that must be purged. We have to push back against stuff like this and I really don't think we're doing enough. These vile feminists sitting boys down to tell them how they think men suck isn't a about equality, it's about control.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:15 PM
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Was that supposed to be a thoughtful reply because I see 8 paragraphs written by me and you wrote two sentences. Seems to me that you're confirmation bias has kicked critical analysis to the curb. You talk about female teachers in elementary school as if it creates some kind of deep psychological scar...but I experienced exactly none of what you are talking about. It's called confirmation bias and it shows up when the information does not confirm you're preexisting bias. That bias doesn't assume…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 05:57 AM
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Yeah I saw the ads on the subway, with "GOT" in the corner.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 05:53 AM
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Well forgive my low class, but I doubt that includes being lectured by staff.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 05:48 AM
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Yes edited my comment because I wasn't as certain of your meaning at the time but thanks for clearing it up and I should have left it as it was. You wing nuts with your non stop right wing propaganda are toxic. Nope, all I need to do is look at obama care to know it's a failure. Propaganda that's been running from before it was even passed. Failure for example denotes no threshold of success other than something I can complain about happened which I can use for propaganda. This is being against …
/r/MensRights24/03/14 05:46 AM
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Guns are designed for the purpose of killing people. They were manufactures with that intent. It's like saying a bread knife is for cutting bread. You don't want to be honest because it makes your argument sound stupid, which is the same reason feminists would rather not openly debate MRA's. Both of you can play propaganda word games all day but it doesn't change reality. Guns were made to shoot people. They can be used for other things but it's mainly for shooting people. Guns are used to save …
/r/MensRights24/03/14 05:13 AM
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Guns were made for killing and if you can't see that then you aren't arguing in good faith. This kind of dishonesty is something we deal with from feminists all the time and you shouldn't be using it for your politics. To claim that it's equal if a murderer kills their victim, or if the victim kills the murderer. Guns are used to save lives every day. Guns are used to take lives everyday. If you take a life to save a life then you're still taking a life. One does not negate the existence of the …
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:37 AM
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Killing is rarely used to save lives. Most of the time the point of killing is to strip a human being all their power by taking their life. Then again we have more suicides than killings so it needn't be 'another'. Saving lives is one of the most propagandistic rational for guns going in a nation who's rates of gun violence dwarf every other developed nation in the world.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:34 AM
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Notice it's almost always those on the right who can't seem to keep their hands out the political cookie jar. Get your act together, this isn't Brietbart.com.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:26 AM
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It's amazing that a women openly expressing her contempt for men expects sympathy from them. "I'm tired of talking to men" okay then please stop because we don't really need to hear the 1001 things you'd like to change about us while offering no opportunity for men to voice their own opinions on the matter. The arrogance of this women isn't surprising considering how accommodating the society has been to women like her.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:15 AM
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I think the posts should be above a certain popularity threshold like the subs being posted require 30,000 members. I see no reason why we can't do the same with facebook and tumblr post in regard to likes/reblogs.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 02:26 AM
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Yes but it got reposted 40,000 times. That's not a random face book meme but a manufactured victim story and few forums are going to take them to task for doing stuff like this. Of course we have more serious issues to work on but I wouldn't exclude this from the list due to it's popularity.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 02:18 AM
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Forget out of line, you could have went further. Called the manager and insist on a new waiter who doesn't disrespect the customer. It wasn't his place to check you with his outdated notions of chivalry. What's next he's going to lecture you for not pulling out the lady's chairs? That guy needs to learn a lesson.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 04:33 PM
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This says it all: Ms Miller, who said she was convicted of stabbing someone, said she had carried a knife for protection. "I think I got away with so much for so long because I was a female," she said.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 04:13 PM
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I agree these guys are trouble makers riding the wave. Their trolling is marketing campaign plain and simple and what makes it worse is they set out to mock MRA's with their traditionalist B.S.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 04:08 PM
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And if you think that other races are less racist, all I can say is "lol". Why does that even matter? If you talking about white supremacy you deal with white supremacy. You know what a not so clever retort to white supremacy is? Accusing other groups of being racists. That would do nothing about white supremacy. Most people didn't have the vote? What are you talking about, you can't just toss gender arguments onto race. Systematic racial oppression happened in America. We can deal with it and m…
/r/MensRights22/03/14 07:47 PM
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I think "Kill All The Men" is HBO's marketing for "Game Of Thrones".
/r/MensRights22/03/14 03:12 PM
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Men's Rights is anti feminism to the extent that feminism is anti male. It doesn't take issue with women's right so long as those rights aren't effectively premised on denying men their rights such as a law meant to protect women by denying men due process. Feminism has improved gender equality and equal access to opportunity but it did so by advancing a hateful narrative which presumed men's major problem was hating women instead of both sexes carrying out a gender role born of a brutal distant…
/r/MensRights21/03/14 08:23 PM
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Happy to see this is getting more scrutiny. The whole idea of arresting people for sending tweets challenging your views is insane. This proxy violence via the state by feminists needs to be counted against them and I'm sure no small number of them is defending this criminal funny business.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 07:21 PM
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These men aren't being held back out of spite, it's a power grab by malevolent women whose reputations and status depend on protecting an ideology of gender hate one generation after the next. Pretending like their 'excuse' is the actual 'reason' would be naive. I wouldn't be surprised if their gender marginalizing tactics aren't a direct result of feeling threatened by the growing backlash against them. This would be a fine cause for some real activism.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 06:58 PM
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Some college kid is reporting on male persecution by those who hold your 'feminism' close to their hearts. Do you want to explain why their overt hatred of men by women is tolerated in our society for generations after generation? Why we have hundreds of university programs dedicated to teaching gullible young women an ideology of male resentment? Your condescension isn't welcome and if childish antics are all you have left then you might as well shut up.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 06:54 PM
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Thanks for rescuing my feeble attempt to explain the discomfort I felt with her words. It is hard to spend so long insisting they do something to help men then attack them when they do. It felt wrong, but still insulting victims by misgendering them is a pretty bitter pill to swallow. It's funny how if not for transsexuals raising their issues, a man rejecting misgendering would probably be labeled a misogynist by feminists.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 12:28 AM
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Slavery was common just about everywhere we had people in one form or another. People did some slaving back in the day. Transitioning out of a slave economy was rough process in America. The nation tore itself apart and had to put itself back together. White supremacy remained a problem for a long time after and remnants still exists today that can show up in troubling electoral politics or over aggressive policing of certain groups among other things. Focusing on the percentage owning slaves is…
/r/MensRights21/03/14 12:22 AM
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I've seen lots of studies and even those from other countries reporting the same thing. There is more inmate on inmate sexual violence in women's prisons and even juvenile detention where girls rates are double that of boys. Speaking of Juvenile detention something like 90% of the staff sexual abuse was female perpetrated.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 12:19 AM
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Very well said and I agree with you, but I'd still do it for a superstars male or female if I were in that situation.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 12:16 AM
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I'd be quite pleased if women were finally kicked off the minority band wagon. Even minority needs reworking, if we're supposed to be talking about disadvantaged minorities it doesn't make throw in high performing groups like Asians. Victim status or disadvantaged status isn't a prize people should fight over. It's a sorry state of affairs every group would do well to avoid.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 12:13 AM
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Yes but the odds of a man being sexually assaulted by age 18 are also 1 in 6. You can go to www.1in6.org for more information. The stats on perpetration for forced sex are around 60:40 male to female. Studies show females perpetrate child sexual abuse 25% of the time. That figure could be higher.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 12:04 AM
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This conversation, hopelessly stalled around individual experience, prevents us from progressing faster to real solutions. The gross differences in outcomes between women and men in terms of income, violence and safety, workplace opportunity, political representation, divisions of household labour and social status affects us on a personal level, but their wider social context is masked by the distraction of individualism. Translation: I see disparities and will oblige myself to make crap in ord…
/r/MensRights20/03/14 11:47 PM
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That was a really weak article.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 10:37 PM
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Ironically the most over represented group in tech are Asians and not white males. About 41 percent of Asians with a science or engineering degree are currently employed in a STEM occupation, followed by individuals who self-identify as Two or More Races (24 percent) and non-Hispanic White (23 percent).
/r/MensRights20/03/14 10:09 PM
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Obama has become so full of it I'm surprised he's not demanding we need to fight for women's right to vote, own property, and drive motor vehicles.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 06:08 PM
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They call that period "Women's Liberation" for future reference. It's easier to find the relevant information when you use that term.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:51 PM
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Both the slave and concentration camp analogy were disrespectful of the suffering those people truly endured. This sensationalism seems to be all feminists have as a means of manufacturing their victimhood. The supposedly empowered and oppressed house wives ran community organizations, supported our schools, managed to ban alcohol in localities/states, and did all that before they had the right to vote. Women weren't powerless nor were they slaves to the home. They did a great deal and it's disg…
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:49 PM
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I hope in the female lecture they cover the use of the law as a weapon.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:45 PM
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Thanks so much for showing us what we should be doing. You are absolutely right about our needing to get off our "duffs" and lobby for men and boys. Nonetheless it's been our virtual role that has done more to spark conversations about taboo subjects like false accusations. There should be a balance between the two. It may be easier to reach more people online but the kind of change that's needed will require involving far more people in the conversation than visit Reddit or Men's Rights sites.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:43 PM
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I don't see how policies on 'illegals' has anything to do with this.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 02:40 PM
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The EEOC’s released its report of Enforcement and Litigation Statistics for 2012 earlier this year. While the overall number of sexual harassment charges filed is slightly down, the percentage of men filing charges increased from 16.1% to 17.8%.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 11:42 PM
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If we could get real equality in treatment across the board we wouldn't be complaining but feminists would just as they have. Equal isn't good enough for them because they want to control all outcomes and choices made by everyone in the society until they create their genderless utopia. To achieve that systematic application of sexism is needed to protect their base of power which is the mantle of female victimhood. You think that our sexism, such as favoring the interest of men from time to tim…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 11:38 PM
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HA HA HA, wow that was really funny. You assume politicians choose the best way of doing things rather than what's politically viable. Politicians aren't even going introduce a better way of doing things until we squash the opposition or give them a fighting chance in the court of public opinion. Feminists self sabotaging so far has been our saving grace but in head to head fights we don't have the lobbying power they do. I admire your optimism but it's tad naive. We're an interest group fightin…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 11:32 PM
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CNN Money: Top 5 Exxon Mobil: $15.1 billion Exxon Mobil: $15.1 billion U.S. federal: -$156 million U.S. state and local: $110 million International: $15.2 billion Wal-Mart Stores: $7.1 billion Wal-Mart Stores: $7.1 billion U.S. federal: $5.3 billion U.S. state and local: $677 million International: $1.1 billion Chevron: $8 billion Chevron: $8 billion U.S. federal: -$19 million U.S. state and local: $230 million International: $7.8 billion General Electric: -$1.1 billion Bank of America: -$1.9 bi…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:51 PM
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The article quoting the NY Times isn't debunked by a "top comment". I left you the link to the times article, did you read it? They didn't have to do their own research because someone more reputable already did. U.S. National Debt in 2013: $1.1 Million Per Taxpayer. That's extreme. No sugar-coating it. Even with Bush tax cuts removed, that doesn't even make a tiny dent into our spending. Nor would two wars with tax cuts on top and 10 years of lost revenues from ill considered tax cuts that didn…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:45 PM
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Asians aren't the ones complaining are they...
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:39 PM
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My style isn't meant for calm discussion of issues among allies. I'm always in fight mode so sorry if I go overboard.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:38 PM
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Fair enough, I was reaching for excuses but I think you win.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:35 PM
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From the article: Pew research finds that young women are, for the first time, surpassing young men in career ambition: 67 percent of women put career success high on their list of life’s goals, versus 60 percent for males. It’s a statistically significant difference, and an even more significant shift from decades past—when the majority of women were just happy to be in the game.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:30 PM
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Yes but she's framing the issue in a way that's downright offensive to victims. If you were raped in prison would you want someone saying that about you? When women are raped by women in prison, do they too become women? You have good cause to protest but so do men demanding respect an sensitivity for male victims just like we would for female victims.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:25 PM
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You have a good point but when the issues are framed to make men look bad then it's a problem. We are also advocating compassion and respect for men. That's not aided by misgendering male victims of sexual violence.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:22 PM
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Women suffer more inmate on inmate sexual violence than men but that wasn't even mentioned on feminsiting because it destroys their mythology about male dominance being the root of these problems. Study link Prevalence rates were highest for female inmates, with 21.2% (212 per 1,000) reporting an incident of some type of inmate-on-inmate sexual victimization in the previous 6 months. This rate was four and a half times higher than that estimated for male inmates (4.3%). Incidents of abusive sexu…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:20 PM
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Meanwhile women with children are 30% of stay at home mothers versus 6% of dads. Men support women then get attacked for women making less money.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:15 PM
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The entire idea of banning men focused groups from organizing is inherently misandric and anti male. This is a civil rights issue and what they are doing is oppression along the same lines of white banning blacks for organizing or meeting in groups (outside of church) for fear that their organizing would threaten them despite whites being a clear majority. Women are a clear majority on college campuses and using that majority power to crush the rights of a minority is in fact an attack on minori…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:10 PM
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This thread is another example of why we must keep the right wing POISON out of Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 06:53 PM
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Did you count the income they allowed to be taxed or all of their income? How does Exxon pay more than the marginal rate? I don't believe any of your numbers, sounds like something you pulled off a right wing site. Go find a credible article from Brooking Institute or something. There are plenty of fantastic Right wing think tanks you should be following instead of Infowars.com.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 06:49 PM
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Laws made by the racists people who did the lynchings and outlawed interracial marriage. Stop treating the government like "patriarchy". You seriously sound like a feminists with all the elaborate scapegoating. You want less government so you blame government. They want less male power so they blame male power. You two are using the same damn tactics.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 06:40 PM
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Who once blocked inter-racial marriages & still blocks gay marriage to this day by issuing licenses? - The Government White supremacy did those things and whites controlled the government. Stop blaming the government for shit white people decided to do to blacks. Rule by the people is great if the people aren't racists white supremacists assholes who steal land from Native peoples and force them to resettle on waste lands. People do bad things to people. Governments are run by the people and by …
/r/MensRights19/03/14 06:30 PM
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I am familiar with the libertarian notion of state oppression driving slavery and Jim Crow but it was in fact WHITE MAJORITY OPPRESSION! This was about WHITE SUPREMACY and the blame shifting B.S isn't going to change that one bit. The legal rights blacks sought was to get PROTECTION FROM THE STATE! The whole process of ending Jim Crow came down to blacks getting PROTECTION FROM THE STATE! And last I checked, the most violent pictures I've seen from the Civil Rights Movement were police officers,…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 06:03 PM
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Feminism is too powerful to fight by making concessions considering they already hijacked the social justice discourse and remade it around the core interest of a minority relatively privileged liberal white women. You can't have a middle ground approach with such people because their all about achieving dominance by any means necessary. It's they who now must be taught to respect both sexes in the same way white supremacists had to be taught to respect all races. Having the concession of suppor…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 04:17 PM
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You know damn well nobody pays 39% corporate tax in USA. They write off everything under the sun and a company that makes billions in profits will often end up pay 0% Tax like General Electric. Your misrepresenting the facts here just like a feminists to suite your argument. We are a nation who's tax code is written by and for the rich and the corporate elite. The result due to a multitude of other factors but taxation included has been vast wealth inequality that's has been growing just like it…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 04:06 PM
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IMHO I call libertarian B.S and not the sweet kind I like. If not for the Government blacks would still be suffering something like Jim Crow. The government can't fix everything but they can address some problems in the society. If you want to be ignorant ahistoric arse that's your business but don't peddle your foolishness as a cure all like feminists. If you choose to become expert on issues of race and gender then feel free to speak on them but doing so from a place of ignorance is profoundly…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 03:54 PM
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I don't think women have any rights issues left except abortion. Feminists have been at it for so long they have to be pushed off the stage. They like old whine (pun intended) have turned into vinegar. What women need doesn't require 600+ women's studies departments across the nation and even in our wildest dreams those aren't going anywhere. We don't have to be the support system for women, they can take care of themselves with or without feminism , but men's rights can't move forward with femi…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 12:11 AM
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Perhaps the worst ever written: http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have Yes that's seriously what it's about: 'beating your boyfriend'.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 12:07 AM
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I'm a fan of sex positive feminism (the real kind not the liberate ladies and damn the men kind) but I think the second wavers came back and took control. Look at all the anti sex madness going on in the UK along with the rise of 'rape culture'. The sex positive feminism's existence isn't stopping the sex negative feminists from successfully pushing their issues. I've seen some open push back against sex positive.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 11:58 PM
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We have all these serious men's rights issues but hardly any compassion from these SJW trained from birth to put men's problems last.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 11:40 PM
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Exactly how big of a pedophile does a women have to be in order to get some real time?
/r/MensRights18/03/14 11:32 PM
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I believe you settled on 60:40 (male:female) off the CDC NISVS 2010 am I right? That's the ratio I use for 'forced sex' perpetration. It's funny how 'rape culture' activism forced them to raise the issue of male victims or they'd be guilty of perpetuating rape culture. That didn't stop those with less integrity from sticking to business as usual and for that reason they left themselves wide open to the criticism RAINN through their way. They made a particular point to highlight why they were wro…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 09:15 PM
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Well I'm more worried about under counting male victims than over counting female ones. Whatever breaks the narrative faster, and it's easier to attack them on under counting men. We have the stats on our side thanks to the CDC NISVS 2010, but the next NISVS will probably be out before we get mainstream awareness on the 'forced to penetrate' numbers. More troubling in the immediate is the huge gap between lifetime and 12 month numbers. We need to do something about how that's calculated before t…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 08:50 PM
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The MRM has to break the feminists victim narrative and portraying men as victims goes a long way towards getting that done. We have to show how we are equally mistreated in the society and to reveal that we must equally complain when it happens even though the issues might be petty at times. If people see both genders affected by some petty problem the case for calling it evidence of discrimination falls apart.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 08:46 PM
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Let me get this straight, you here decades of unrepentant sexism from feminists attacking men as a gender and you're major issue is men complaining about their sexism must be sexist? We fight lies and bigotry with truth and the petty sexism here is nothing compared to entire university departments that are practically dedicated to male bashing. There are over 600 of them in America, and the hate they inspire is what we're trying to challenge. How many generations of men and boys must this never …
/r/MensRights18/03/14 07:13 PM
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That's a a really bad joke. Just do a good ole gender reversal if you don't see why the outrage is here and check your sexism while you're at it.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 07:10 PM
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You mean people not respecting those they dominate and bully? I would have never thought... Men need to stand up for themselves for the same reason women do. If you wish to be submissive, it ought be voluntary.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 07:07 PM
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The rain report: "In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime. While that may seem an obvious point, it has tended to get los…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 06:26 PM
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I knew a 13 year girl having an affair with a 20 year old man in a small marching band I attended in high school. He was the van driver and it was a relationship going on out in the open. She seemed more mature than him and it was the furthest thing from a case of a older man exploiting a girl. That said the prohibitions are warranted because children are in a vulnerable position. If exceptions must be made it ought be by the adults observing the relationship and not the law. The age lines are a…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 05:57 PM
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What I do disagree with is when there are comments defending 21 year-old guys who sleep with 13 year-old girls, or saying that rape culture isn't a thing, or anything along those lines. It just seems counter-productive in a lot of ways. There would be far more comments defending a 21 year old women sleeping with a thirteen year old in a open forum focused on the general public. The double standard favors women without a doubt but your concern is the off hand comment by the occasional male that's…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 05:52 PM
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The last thing we ought to do is allow feminism to maintain it's position of anti male campaigning without being challenged. This may be a unpopular position but speaking truth to counter a narrative built on myths and lies is often like that and we should tough it out. Looking for acceptance will have us trapped in a position of submission to a unjust authority that's systematically discrimination against us at the cultural and institutional level.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 05:49 PM
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People don't know the stats, and feminists don't want them too. They have been organizing social aggression against those that threaten their ideology from the start.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 05:46 PM
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Don't be deceived. This push to ban books marketed to one gender is an extension of their radical feminsts push to create a genderless society that will effectively ignore the needs of men and boys to focus on girls development exclusively. The writer of the article stated her bias: You see, it is not just girls’ ambitions that are being frustrated by the limiting effects of “books for girls”, in which girls’ roles are all passive, domestic and in front of a mirror. Rebecca Davies, who writes th…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 05:40 PM
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Racism definition: the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief
/r/MensRights18/03/14 05:25 PM
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Gender roles served a purpose and patriachy looks like it came right out of nature. I for one found the examples in "Sex At Dawn" of Bonobos and Chimps to be the best perspective on our natural tendencies. One is a aggressive species that makes war, while the other makes love... a lot. Humans are a blend and depending on our circumstances the chimp or the bonobo comes out. Patriarchy was born of our chimp side and today we're developing our bonobo side. Let's hope the peace lasts. As far as the …
/r/MensRights18/03/14 08:26 AM
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http://www.rainn.org/news-room/rainn-urges-white-house-task-force-to-overhaul-colleges-treatment-of-rape [The conversation on TiA] (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/20ecc8/tw_not_tumblr_rainn_in_the_last_few_years_there/)
/r/MensRights18/03/14 08:05 AM
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I'm not the one assuming men are a imminent threat so I'd be projecting the opposite.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 08:00 AM
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What is funny about that? I don't think you know a damn thing about the issues. You want to mouth off without evidence but got your unfounded theories all ready to go like a feminist. Go read some studies, BJS, DOJ, FBI and get back to me when you have a real argument. I did my homework.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 07:57 AM
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I can't even pretend to be surprised or excited when a rape accusation turns out to be false. It's almost like I expect that to happen. How many high profile cases turned out to be false? I mean we had a lady sit before congress and talk about being raped then held captive at gun point in a storage container. Her whole story turned out to be false but you didn't hear about that on TV even if it would have been a juicy ratings grabbing scandal. Instead we were to pretend like it's rare. Think abo…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 06:58 AM
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It's not sexist, it's a chick talking sh*t to other chicks like rappers do all the time. She's not a real feminists, I think she just want some cred for being a thinker rather than just another pretty face. Sadly her writing on the Maria Shriver report didn't do much to correct that perception. The lyrical quality of her album did a much better job of that.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 03:56 AM
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His misandry could have been inspired by feminists promotion of misandry. We've all been subjected to fear mongering about men and some might respond by thinking all men are bad except themselves but I'd be more concerned that this man has done horrible things in the past and thus assumes other men may be like him. In other words he's projecting.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 03:51 AM
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Re-post of comment on article: One thing I learned from learning to appreciate ideas from idealogies other then mine is don't assume people are stupid. Even their self deluding rationalizatons are a reflection on reality worth considering or at least connecting with one an individual sees as truth. Take this idea for instance: "One thing I’ve noticed is that one reason why writing felt so much like a chore is that the process was separated from the ends. Men focus everything on an end product, w…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 03:44 AM
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I for one think she's so smart you should be listening instead of talking. Her points are great, and they have the power to take down more feminists than disproving patriarchy. It's too easy for them to dodge that, it's very hard for them to dodge promoting the patriarchy for their own ends. If feminists aren't fighting patriarchy they are apart of the problem they defined as the cause of their movement. I'd much rather use the "you're promoting the patriarchy" to get them to discuss male victim…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 03:07 AM
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That is excellent. I've read extensively in history. I was able to bring this knowledge to bare when I entered the MHRM and realised pretty quickly that patriarchy was complete nonsense. How did you get that from reading history? Seems like some confirmation bias or poor definitions at work. History points to a mighty patriarchy in our past that has faded in the modern age to a few old traditions like men paying for dates and what not. Either way her attack on feminism for exploiting patriarchy …
/r/MensRights18/03/14 03:01 AM
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She believes that any and all abhorrent acts perpetuated by feminists are a result of them appropriating patriarchy when it suits their ends. That's fine by me. So to fight the patriarchy we must fight feminists, sounds GREAT! Therein lies the question: How do I convince her that there are acts taken by feminists that aren't due to patriarchy? Why the hell would you want to do that? She's lined up a slamming argument and suggest you listen to her more and learn how it's done. We can use patriarc…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 02:59 AM
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TiA had a much better discussion on the RAINN take down on Rape Culture than we did here at Men's Rights. I think discussing SJW stuff day after day has made them better prepared for that conversation than the guys in MensRights threads.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 02:53 AM
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Are you guys ready to call white women on their privilege yet because I been ready and been doing it. Its surprisingly effective but your going to have to channel your inner SJW to make the case. Here's how they did it but it needs some correction or you'll sound stupid. To SJWs: If you are going to be inhumane, sexist, warmongers, at least be consistent with your hatred. If you hate men, you hate ALL men. Not just white ones. You don’t get to suck up to the racist SJWs by saying that black men …
/r/MensRights18/03/14 02:43 AM
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Once those abortion posters are gone then ours will be next. That's a good point but after that SNL clip we should keep our distance from pro lifers not that we haven't been doing so since we're not pushing a pro life position.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 02:13 AM
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I've been in discussions when people raise that issue and they were always right wingers pushing their gun agenda who knew nothing about rape. If you know that little about the topic that you'd raise that position then you shouldn't be engaging these issues until you educate yourself especially in a forum dedicated to the discussion of gender issues. Your passion for guns is your business but it doesn't mean that this is the place to push guns as a solution to rape.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 02:12 AM
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She really should be regarded as a child molester because that's what she is and as such her keeping that child in her custody would be unacceptable. Who knows what goes on in the minds of these pedophiles and being female doesn't make them any less dangerous.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 02:10 AM
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That's what FIRE is working on. We focus on free speech as far as Men's Rights is concerned or the discussion of men's issues. The catch all becomes a big problem especially when we talk about abortion with extreme protesters on both sides.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 11:58 PM
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ABORTION IS NOT A MEN'S RIGHTS ISSUE! They beef between the pro choice and pro life factions isn't our beef. Both get out of hand, and both go to extremes. The pro life more often than not are the one doing extreme things. They trash talk women going to the clinic. There have been many bombings. These aren't the ones to school feminist on civility.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 10:57 PM
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WND.COM is a disgusting source but I wasn't going to say anything this time.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 10:46 PM
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You use the state like a boogeyman just like feminists do with patriarchy. It's the same old scapegoating game to make you feel like a helpless victim of some vast external force. We are engaged in a political fight in which we lobby on behalf of men not a fight where we lobby for right wingers or left wingers with their endless bickering over issues that would do more to distract than help our cause. "Well, I'd consider state involvement in mens' lives to be a damn pressing issue in the context…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 10:42 PM
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If you want to go gun happy like a dumb ass and use it to hijack men's rights discussions then to hell with you. This kind of trolling self sabotage is drives good people away. You don't here me going on to no end about left wing agendas because it's not the place. I focus on the men's issues and I expect right wingers to do the same instead of acting like kids angry mommy won't let them play with their toys in church. The problem isn't the guns but the ignorant zealots who push it like it cures…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 10:31 PM
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I'm talking about rape prevention and I don't give 2 fucks about the feelings of NRA members. Their propaganda has nothing to do with the discussion and I consider them no better than feminists with their myth making and propaganda. Have your guns, enjoy your guns, but if you suggest it's going to save people from rape then you're full of shit, just like a feminists pushing rape culture. Stranger rape is only 10% of cases. Most rapes are by an intimate partner and your not going to shoot your bo…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 10:26 PM
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Sounds like right wing politics being injected into the conversation that supposed to be about rape on campus. Check your politics and focus on the men's issues.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 09:54 PM
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People don't need guns in college so spare us the right wing craziness. If you know little or nothing about the common context of rapes then nobody needs your ill informed advice. NRA lobbying isn't what men's rights is about. We use facts not myths for our political agendas. That's what feminists do.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 09:27 PM
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Public schools get federal funds so you can file a Tittle IX suite just like a college student would, but I know that's a lot more than you're probably willing to do. What's a lot easier is threatening to do so which can also work. You have a clear cut case of discrimination here and they have no justification whatsoever for it. Like most schools I'm sure the boys are doing worse, have a lower rate of graduation and college attendance, and since you have those disadvantaged boys, you got a clear…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:40 PM
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WE ARE NOT THEIR ALLIES. Please stop trying to twist this into a front group for Conservative causes. If anything we want distance ourselves from pro lifers. Argentina was different because they were assaulting men. This video was a girl who had her sign stolen that was pushed away as she blocked a closing elevator. Very different stories. Seriously look at the comments, and it's been posted many times over.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:28 PM
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From their Avon Study: Domestic Violence Prevalence – 22% of Americans Overall report being a victim of Domestic Violence • 1 in 3 women (30%) • 1 in 7 men (14%) • Almost twice as many women as men report being a victim of Domestic Violence Sexual Assault Prevalence – 13% of Americans Overall report being a victim of Sexual Assault • 1 in 5 women (20%) • 6% of men, making women more than 3 times more likely as men to be a victim of Sexual Assault *Considering there is a site called 1in6.org refe…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 05:15 AM
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Conflicts between pro life supporters and feminists are not a Men's Rights issue and this has been posted at least 3 times.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 05:03 AM
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The thing is when she goes to feminists they will shift blame away from her and onto the society at large or the men who failed her in some way. Perhaps she wasn't appreciated because she didn't fit the media's image as dictated by the male dominated media, or she felt unduly pressured by traditional gender expectations foisted upon her by a patriarchy in which women are bodies are to be exploited to satisfy men's desire for offspring, the list of self serving rationalizations go on and on but r…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 05:01 AM
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"Society's expectations today: A woman's first duty is to herself, a man's first duty is to everyone but himself". Perfect.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:57 AM
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What got me was the 'anti-racists' approach to domestic violence. What on earth could that be? Were we in the past engaged in racists domestic violence prevention such as regarding defendants as more or less guilty of abusing their partner dependent on their race or must we tailor their treatment with regard for racial differences in which case it would be racialist not anti racist. It makes no sense to be but I'm sure they'll have enough academic buzzwords at their disposal to make it sound pla…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:49 AM
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I consider that unavoidable. "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell Even feminists with good intentions are attached to a ideology that is extreme. True moderation will come after society has become openly critical of their core tenets and not before. Questions like: Do the personal preferences of the sexes differ on average, are still controversial. They shouldn't be considering those very traits were only a short while ago touted as cause for d…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:39 AM
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Maybe it was the chick with a beard thing.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:23 AM
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The drama issues from the assailability of vital, tenacious men with their share of peculiarities who are neither mired in weakness nor made of stone and who, almost inevitably, are bowed by blurred moral vision, real and imaginary culpability, conflicting allegiances, urgent desires, uncontrollable longings, unworkable love, the culprit passion, the erotic trance, rage, self-division, betrayal, drastic loss, vestiges of innocence, fits of bitterness, lunatic entanglements, consequential misjudg…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:06 AM
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Your extremism is just like that of feminists. You think you can shock people into a least modest acceptance of your premise with hyperbolic claims that strain the imagination. It's just a tired oft repeated delusion of easily manipulated fearful people who think they have every answer because something the read some where sounded right to them. You know how to define communism, we have had communist states. What we haven't had is your far right free market utopia because it would be as disastro…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:02 AM
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Oh I suppose to balance that with a quip about liberals. They are far to unkind to white men and should stop using them as scapegoats. Is that ok?
/r/MensRights17/03/14 02:35 AM
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You're right, I shouldn't be so peevish. It's a fun story.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 02:34 AM
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The lady was really sick: Her facial hair, according to court documents, is the result of polycystic ovarian syndrome. The 34-year-old also has multiple sclerosis. She asked sentencing judge John McCarthy to release her from jail immediately. "I'm worried that prolonged stay here will turn my conditions into a 200-pound 3-year-old," Shaw said in court.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 02:25 AM
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The only way MRA will get taken seriously is if we take the higher ground. We do take the high ground by not trashing women to support men, I don't think feminists take that bit seriously. We can't avoid saying bad things about the ideology and ideologues we critique or I wouldn't have been able to say what I just said. If we really want respect we have to organize and do things. That's where the failure is and that's what we're currently being mocked for. From the looks of it they found our rea…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 02:20 AM
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9 Up Votes for white pride... Really?
/r/MensRights17/03/14 02:14 AM
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These White Rights guys won't fucking quit. This white nationalist bullshit really needs to stop. You can be a proud white man and you can even be proud of being white. The thing is when you assholes get together you start hating everyone else on that list except for white women. In fact that's exactly why those other groups felt the need for pride in the first place because the dominant majority in this nation (not all white) rejected them. They are the peoples trying to recover their self wort…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 02:13 AM
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BTW: Not a serious men's rights issue, just a lady whining about not getting attention from men. From the article: Kevin Lewis, an associate professor of sociology at UC San Diego, blames the Bay Area's progressive gender norms, with men less likely to believe they need to make the first move. "It's easier when you have a script to follow - that is, 'You're a guy, you have to do the work here,' " Lewis says. In debates with his single female friends who waited for men to make the first move, the…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 10:54 PM
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Lines up nicely with the sentiments of too many wingnuts out there.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 10:46 PM
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From link: I thank Nicholas Kristof for focusing on the serious problem of domestic violence in America. But he makes the classic mistake about domestic violence offenders when he emphasizes the need for “training programs.” They are no substitute for jail terms and criminal justice penalties. "Domestic violence is not an anger management issue. The vast majority of men who commit domestic assaults against their female partners otherwise show restraint and control every day and live law-abiding …
/r/MensRights16/03/14 10:18 PM
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These are elaborate statistical mind games and they seem to get ever more extreme: "Women worldwide ages 15 to 44 are more likely to die or be maimed as a result of male violence than as a consequence of war, cancer, malaria and traffic accidents combined. Far more Americans, mostly women, have been killed in the last dozen years at the hands of their partners than in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. American women are twice as likely to suffer domestic violence as breast cancer, and the abuse …
/r/MensRights16/03/14 10:01 PM
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I don't recall us having any issue with thoughtcatalog
/r/MensRights16/03/14 09:23 PM
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It's the first time I've ever heard the issue raised. I've done so rhetorically and I've never taken it seriously.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 09:17 PM
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That sounded like a white person looking for respect from people who they would rather not respect in the first place be they blacks(as a group) or leftist acting as their allies. I think the writer has racial hang ups which can be white pride, or for non whites, fear of whites. The conciliatory approach doesn't work well in the radical change phase, that usually settles in later when the argument for radical change is weaker and momentum lower. Feminists never down shifted while anti racism act…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 08:56 PM
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He was not charged but he was accused. Sketchy source / Most famous accusation 'Juanita Broaddrick' / Sketchy source but well organized list
/r/MensRights16/03/14 08:39 PM
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The number of total males and females with degrees is one number. If we go back say over 20 years that includes times when the gap in degree attainment (people getting degrees yearly) was smaller. So now we have a 60:40 gap in degree attainment where women get 50% more degrees than males. If you add up all the people with degrees for their period it came to 19% which looks smaller but conceals the larger problem.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 08:31 PM
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Why... white women have been doing it for so long they've practically taken over the entire cause of social justice on the left (to the detriment of minorities) but your comment seems very self centered and rather sarcastic. Since when don't (white) men have the right to complain when people mistreat them? That's probably not the MRM which is very small, you might feel entitled to mistreat men in ways they previously were willing to tolerate but are no longer now that they really do see you as t…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 08:25 PM
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I've always looked to their the organized gender lobbying and influence within institutions. Scandals and such are nothing new. Bill Clinton survived so many accusations it's hard to keep track of them all but at least two were for rape. Dominique had survived many sex scandals before that.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 08:14 PM
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Sentencing disparities are clearly due to structural inequality and the same can be said for some problems in education to the extent we haven't considered what policies might have a negative impact on boys, like ending recess or zero tolerance policies. We need to actually have equal compassion to set up fair systems that cater to the needs of all those in it (within reason).
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:34 PM
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The impression I have got of MRAs is that you often speak as if men are oppressed by feminism and women, as if women have structural power over men or something. I rarely ever see the word "oppressed" unless it's referencing feminist thought. Why don't you search the world oppressed, oppress, and oppression in this sub and I'll bet you won't find but a handful of references out of dozens referring to men as oppressed. The word has been abused by feminists who have taken it upon themselves to lab…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:32 PM
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From the article: Women's shelters represent a world where the joy of life is missing, and efforts to resolve relationship conflicts have been replaced by existential despondency or even self-hatred. Misandry appears to offer a way out. This oppressive atmosphere surely accounts for the high rate of employee turnover at women's shelters and the dissension within work teams. It enables one to understand recent research conducted in the USA which found that women are increasingly steering clear of…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:03 PM
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That's the graduate count, which was chosen because it's smaller. Women earn 50% more degrees than men.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 03:36 PM
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Is there a reason you are not directly linking to ThoughtCatalog?
/r/MensRights16/03/14 03:28 PM
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I'm no lawyer so I can't make sense of this http://www.policymic.com/articles/42359/topless-women-in-public-not-breaking-the-law-says-nypd
/r/MensRights16/03/14 08:09 AM
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Not in New York. Ladies can let it all hang out after the courts settled the issue.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:02 AM
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I'm on the side of not bullying kids for wearing a MLP backpack. It's indefensible for adults to forsake their responsibility to check that kind of thing. To hell with bullies and if they are dominating schools then we should put them in their place. Creating a good society with tolerant respectful people demands we do so.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 06:59 AM
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Make sure you read the full report linked there in case you want give her a larger section.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 06:54 AM
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The strong always victimize the weak. No they won't, most of the time the strong are nice to the weak, it's the few exceptions that need policing. Throwing our hands up at bullying amounts to throwing our children to the wolves. I wish we were as passionate about dealing with bullying as we were sex crimes minus the draconian punishments. People standing up and saying "STOP" is enough to strip the bully of their social power to dominate those around them. In that sense it's one of the easier pro…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 06:54 AM
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Of course most feminists are sane, because most people are sane. Mostly I see a lot of people who have been lied too. It's the ones that know the facts but keep pushing the lie that really bother me, which includes a lot of writers and journalist covering gender issues. They hide behind the fact nobody else is telling the whole truth so they can keep distorting reality and get away with it. That's slowly changing. Once a few let the cat out the bag you don't want to be caught in a lie.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 02:23 AM
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Can't you google that?
/r/MensRights16/03/14 01:29 AM
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Of course please raise the issue of "Forced To Penetrate" in the CDC NISVS 2010 showing as many men victims in 12 months as women raped, and why there was zero media coverage or discussion by feminist on those numbers to this day. I mean it's been like 3 years. You can also talk about why the feminists push to change the FBI definition of rape complexity excluded the male genitalia as far as being victimized. You can do literally anything to a penis and it won't count as rape. This is perhaps th…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 01:28 AM
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This: Martin similarly commends that the damsel in distress passive egg waits for the active warrior sperm to torpedo his way through adverse environment of the vagina and awaken her. These, they tell, is the version that for many years scientists have been portraying. In his article, "The Aggressive Egg," Freedman describes the studies of researcher Emily Martin; this article tells a different view of the process of fertilization. The egg is revealed as a partner and active contributor to ferti…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 01:13 AM
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Well there is a push to bring those trades back into our schools. I think it would be good for boys.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 12:14 AM
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Seems like grounds for a lawsuit to me if it's not a close friend.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 12:13 AM
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There is no secret to stamping them out but did they do anything at all to the bullies? From what I can tell NO! That's not how you deal with the problem of bullying. If he's bullied on the bus people can still see him, you have witnesses. It's probably on camera. This is nothing like rape, because it's a public crime. Adults drop the ball way too much on bullying and that's why it persists. They have enough power to crush bullies who only do what they do because they won't face consequences pic…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 11:26 PM
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The eternal NAFLT (Not All Feminist Are Like That) which is a argument that MRA's have devoted many videos, articles, and blog post to, so google it "NAFLT" and get back to us. Then again feminist would certainly take our side on this boys rights.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 09:50 PM
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Let's not pretend feminism really cares about deconstructing masculinity, it only wants to deconstruct the parts that hurt women. I agree, and it's on us to pick up where they fell short, mainly by calling them on their hypocrisy since their established power structure stands a better chance of getting the job done than our little movement. I've never actually seen a girl shamed for being feminine except by second wave feminists. It's amazing how they still get away with that. Nobody is a keen t…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 09:04 PM
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Otherwise, you'd be hard pressed to lend him support if, say, he were bullied by girls or assaulted by women. "They'd be hard pressed to lend him support" but even then they'd have to come to terms with their hypocrisy if they chose not to defend him just the same. I'm not a feminist, I'm an MRA.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 08:56 PM
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This is bullying not rape. It's not a hard to prove crime that comes down to he said she said, it goes on out in the open for all to see so the guilty can be punished. Bullies are to be identified and dealt with harshly if their behavior is persistent. These sadist exist only to find pleasure in causing others pain. Adults supervising children ought not be intimidated into abiding by the social order established by bullies. That's a failure on their part. They should exploit this provocation to …
/r/MensRights15/03/14 08:54 PM
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Are you trying to suggest feminist didn't push back against those things?
/r/MensRights15/03/14 08:50 PM
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Thats why warren ferrel has been writing for 30 years and been ignored that entire time until recently, after avfm effectively engaged the feminist partisans. In those two short years, mountains have moved. There was a army of MRA's and sympathizers blasting feminists and AVFM grew out of that existing presence. I think the internet and social media is what really shifted the landscape because the world's conversation went online. In the physical world the MRM would have been stuck in the wilder…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 08:12 PM
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You can use the term 'Female Chauvinist' it's less unruly and it ties them to their hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 07:58 PM
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Look at the resounding thud at /r/feminsm. Not one single comment. They up voted the link and left it at that. NOBODY wants to talk about it. I never ceased to be amazed at the power of their group think.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 07:53 PM
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Who cares if it's girly, now you're falling right into feminists hands by being hostile to girl things. They'd call that misogyny. Idealism. And he's no warrior, he's a bully victim. A kid with proper masculine upbringing doesn't get bullied as hard as the average kid. I suspect there's much more than MLP to this story. The bullying is the problem. Guys like you are the ones who shame men for being abused by their wives which MRA's consider misandry. Being an MRA requires accepting gender equali…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 07:47 PM
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This is gender injustice but at the same time I find it hard to argue with the notion the man has a right to choose who lives in his house. That's a fairly intimate arrangement as opposed to normal work place where you show up, do the job, and then go home.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 07:32 PM
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MLP doesn't conflict with masculinity nor Care Bears, nor Smurfs, nor Barney, nor Sesame Street. Also boys can define boyhood for themselves without being shoved in a box of superficial masculine posturing. He can wear a MLP backpack and still be a fearless warrior at heart. I think we should let them define the finer aspects and if we have a message of masculinity it should be as universal as femininity. Both sexes can have both traits and apply them as it suites them. I'm just against forcing …
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:59 PM
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Oh no, now you done gone too far... MLP and Adventure Time! Now we have to bully you for not conforming to popular opinion. Seriously you shouldn't get down voted for that.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:52 PM
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'Friendship is Magic' and don't you forget it. Respect the MLP bitches. Seriously the kid wasn't in the wrong the bullies were and we won't get anywhere by appeasing ruthless bullies looking to hammer anyone who breaks with conformity.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:51 PM
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What are you a bully apologist?
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:49 PM
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They weren't doing their job which is stopping bullying which that's seriously against the rules. If they told the kids that if anyone bothers that kid over his back pack again they'd be suspended I'm sure they'd get the message.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:49 PM
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Adults are supposed to teach children not to bully people. If people are getting away with bullying the responsibility falls on the adults supervising them. If being different makes a kid a target then the adults need to teach children tolerance before it's too late.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:47 PM
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Are you seriously comparing a "My Little Pony" Backpack to a "I hate niggers" shirt?
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:45 PM
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Not conforming to gender roles is a culture problem not a risk factor. That's like saying being fat is a risk factor for bullying so it's on you to lose weight. The logic is BAD. We have to fight victim blaming people victim blame men all the time for everything from false accusations to being abused by their partner. The message is simple: Don't Bully People.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:40 PM
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In all honesty that's primarily due to feminist influence.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:30 PM
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Well in this case and as feminists see it the gender norms are oppressive.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:28 PM
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Feminists would be fighting for this kid so you're way off base here. Sucks when I have to defend feminist, but that's why you ought to understand their stances on the issues if you are going to be critical of them.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:27 PM
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RESPECT THE PONIES: Friendship is Magic.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:26 PM
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I hope people understand that feminists would be all over this calling it an example of the rampant misogyny in the society that assumes girl things are inferior to boy things. Pushing this one is a double edged sword because I can hear the feminists now insinuating that this is an example why MRA's ought support feminists in the first place. In all honesty with this issue they'd be on our side and it go over quite well in /r/feminism. This is a clear case of feminists thought informing our posi…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:23 PM
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It's a freaking superstar. She's not the average lady and it's pointless to use her as an example of one. I'd get the hell out the bathroom for Rihanna and feel honored I could help.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:09 PM
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My frustration comes from failing to draw attention to wide range of men's issues. Right now we're running with a handful when we should have a truckload we can dump on feminists at any time that cross all lines of race, nationality, and sexuality just like those feminists push about women. I want to get on their level and keeping our eye on the ball is necessary to do that. They are the ones who in the position to be complacent and whine over petty things, we're not simply trying to show how so…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:07 PM
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Well this one feminists never even broached the question of RAINN's assumed percentage of rapist but it's nice we now have a number from a official source we can rely on to stand as a bulwark against moral panic.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:02 PM
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Want to "reserve the right to refuse service for any reason" and hold star chamber tribunals? Fine. No more state funding. Should folks be barred from college campuses over rape? No. They should be barred from society as a whole via jail. The ones making things easier on rapists are the college kid rape tribunals and victims who don't report to the police. Nicely stated but the real weeds are in the sentencing (touched on with the registry), thresholds for sexual violence (grabbing a boob should…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 05:59 PM
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It is somewhat a victory they have denounced "rape culture" but there are thousands of puppet feminist that will continue to use the mentality and even try to make it work. I took a look at some recent youtube clips on "rape culture" and I see a softening of the tone. Ordinary people are pushing back against it because it's absurdity is extreme. They can keep pushing it but they'll be doing us a favor by normalizing the image of a straw feminist. Feminism is a juggernaut RAINN is most certainly …
/r/MensRights15/03/14 05:49 PM
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That's what happens when feminist are anti men's rights like they have been for a very long time. Not to recklessly conflate race and gender but they wouldn't expect anti segregationist to be supportive of racial separatist. If your idea of women's rights is maximizing control over men without regard for their rights then that's going to be a problem for MEN!
/r/MensRights15/03/14 05:45 PM
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Look if you want to do the blind hate rage out thing that's your business but don't expect those who see the big picture to drop to some myopic framework that would end up making us hypocrites. We need well reasoned positions on the issues not knee jerk hostility.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 05:42 PM
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I really don't understand how it's better to have five rape victims than one very uncomfortable rape victim. We wouldn't be having this discussion if it were attempted murder. Well said, and I think that's why RAINN took the position they did even thought they knew it would ruffle A LOT of feathers. This report has been out for a week and that feminsting article is all I could find. They don't even want to talk about it, just like they'd rather not bring up MRA's.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 05:40 PM
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The hypocrisy is breathtaking especially when you look at their explanation for why make this choice. They are using the military's argument for college campuses while using RAIIN's for the military. The only thing that seems to matter is whether or not they can maximize control over the process.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 05:38 PM
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Sadly feminism is anti men's rights thus to advocate for men's rights necessitates anti feminism.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 04:52 PM
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I don't know which tone to take because I can shred your sh*t ten ways from tuesday without breaking a sweat and I'll be skipping the "sophistry" because I think I've settled on angry. First things first: But also to claim rights in opposition to women effectively asserting that women and the rights they have achieved as being a significant problem to men's rights, both belies the movements stated intentions and motivations and sets up a false antagonism across gender lines that creates, feeds u…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 04:40 PM
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Rape Culture is over... In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime. While that may seem an obvious point, it has tended to g…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 03:58 PM
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On the simplest level racism and sexism are about negatively stereotyping groups of people because of their race or gender. The last bit of advice sounds like something Barney would say (yes, the purple dinosaur). This is a world full of groups with interest that mostly overlap but sometimes conflict. They then fight to gain a better position in those conflicts. One groups interest can be served by putting the other down. If you share a society and putting the other down brings you up you can or…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 07:02 AM
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You can always look up Cathy Brennan. Don't worry about the name she's an infamous TERF who's always fighting with feminists, so if you look her up you'll find her crew.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:11 AM
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The western world is sold on this mythology. If we were going to call them idiots I think we'd be insulting a lot of smart people. I think the appropriate word is ignorant. It's our job to educate. If we don't do it, then people will remain ignorant. Feminist are better organized and have been doing this a lot longer than we have.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 01:26 AM
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The Reddit should be used for educating people on the issues, discussing the issues, and organizing to do something about the issues. I don't think that's setting the bar to high. I don't know, maybe I see the tide changing and realize that just being mad at feminists ain't worth a damn. They are better at this than we are and we have to step up our game to exploit the momentum we got going. Seriously if this if fuck all good time stuff then we'll only have people who come to waste there time he…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 01:23 AM
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THIS IS NOT A MEN'S RIGHTS ISSUE! It's celebrity gossip and we have A LOT of real issues that need attention. Enough to fill pages and pages every single day.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 01:12 AM
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What's wrong with that? You can be a professional by working for organizations that help people. We'd like people to also be working on behalf of men's issues and getting paid because they need to eat. This isn't the time for being smug, it's the time to act or we'll lose our momentum. Thank god this isn't the only rodeo in town.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 01:05 AM
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There is no Men's Rights issue here...none whatsoever. You want to play mean kid to taunt feminists for sport, and I want to play activist fighting for men's rights and men's issues. This time killing, major issue marginalizing B.S won't cut it.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 01:02 AM
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This wasn't worth posting. We don't need click bait, we need MEN'S ISSUES!
/r/MensRights15/03/14 01:00 AM
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Those of us who really care about the issues are going to have to start down voting these things but I doubt it would barely make a dent.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 12:54 AM
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Me too, these days it doesn't seem like a lot of serious Men's Rights issues are being posted but there is a ton of stuff on our the mass incarceration out there.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 11:15 PM
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She was using the RAINN statistic whom are the same people now suggesting victims should use the criminal justice system. There is plenty of blame to go around. First RAINN screwed up by advancing this "3%" statistic. Feminist move to resolve the issue in campus courts where they force the lowering of the burden of proof and now RAINN says STOP go back to law enforcement after we talked you out of it. Too much activist funny business not enough serious consideration. I think the 3% statistic is …
/r/MensRights14/03/14 10:44 PM
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They aren't dumb at all, they favor women over men and the position reflects that. What's dumb is assuming that this isn't the very conscious cultural bias we're fighting against.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 10:20 PM
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You know what my comment is? Why aren't we talking about the RAINN Report to the Whitehouse In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a vio…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 10:14 PM
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From the Article: "I couldn’t help but feel that RAINN’s description of the the student judicial process sometimes read straight out of the blog posts of angry men’s rights activists and rape apologists who claim that campus violence should not be handled in the schools. Paul Elam, the founder of the men’s right’s blog A Voice For Men, who told The New Republic “We have a problem with feminists hyper-inflating rape statistics, creating a kind of hysteria on campus over a problem that needs due a…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 09:08 PM
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You should see the work of your down voting brigade. I've seen nothing like it on any other thread, and that's why your right wing politics are poison. Not a single down vote had anything to do with Men's Rights, it's all about defending Right Wing political perspectives. If you turn this sub into a sewer like the other right wing sites nobody respects it will be on you.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:42 PM
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You should submit this as comment on "The Source". It's not visible but hopefully the author will be notified, maybe she can do an expose and get some page hits.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:11 PM
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It's like they think the duty of feminists is to tear down men's egos and make them into submissive door mats.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:06 PM
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I read it, and every MRA should. I love his deep sympathy for men, it's a lesson for us all.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:05 PM
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My mistake.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 06:45 PM
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Good stuff, considering I don't know their policies we should cover our bases. The spam him and we flood Amazon with reports of them doing it. Hopefully we'll raise some established rule and put an end to their attack.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 06:44 PM
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Tone policing a Men's Rights movement facing endless accusations of misogyny, homophobia, racism, and now pro life support is something we have to do to remain relevant. Our missteps turn into click bait articles in mainstream publications. Exposing us as out of touch bigoted bitter white men still on the oppositions agenda. We are in a free speech zone so we must self police. Even I get checked from time to time. That said we got RAINN on our side so it's time to do what MRA's do best which is …
/r/MensRights14/03/14 06:32 PM
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No it's for you to choose just like your gender or sexuality.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 06:09 PM
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It is simply my view that going to war with feminism is a waste of energy, but gender specific issues do not need to be a militant war of attrition. Meanwhile RAINN just took our position on 'Rape Culture': In 16 pages of recommendations, RAINN urged the task focus to remain focused on the true cause of the problem. “In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out …
/r/MensRights14/03/14 06:08 PM
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I'm saying we don't know how much time they are going to get.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 04:26 PM
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You come along to defend a white man's right to trash black women in general, black female professors no less, and call me a racist because I reject it? Do you not see the obvious hypocrisy of your stance. It's as if to say no one can ever be called racist, except black people critical of whites attacking black people. That's the logic of a White Nationalist trying to mind fuck his way to the mainstream. You people are shit, nobody wants around, companies don't want to risk the lawsuits ,people …
/r/MensRights14/03/14 04:21 PM
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This is not the place for you Pro Life Rants. The MRM isn't taking a stance on abortion because it's not a "Men's Right".
/r/MensRights14/03/14 04:05 PM
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That would discredit me with angry whites who think showing racial resentment is their damn right. Well it is along with my contempt for those who do it. You racist asses will drag down any movement you join and the sooner we run you out the better. Seriously don't you have something better to do than defend people who go out of their way to hate on blacks? What is this white pride week or something?
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:47 PM
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It's probably the same people. I hope Amazon catches on.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:44 PM
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"Report Abuse" hit the button and give a concise explanation, here's mine: "This is a activist attack on the author by people who clearly never read the book. I see 3 one star reviews in 3 consecutive days. That's highly suspicious and they should be deleted." There were 3 on 3 consecutive days but a fourth was a few days earlier. The more people who report abuse the more likely someone will do something about it. The don't want the system gamed anymore than we do.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:42 PM
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They need to stop with the mixed signals. They need to be taught that if they're dressing sexy, they should be very verbally up-front from the start about whether they do or don't want to get laid. Really, we need to move beyond these silly little dating scripts and encourage people to be clear and blunt about what they want. Why on earth would they bring up 'clothing', it's the feminist rape culture straw man of the freaking decade. Remember all those darn slut walks? That was because ONE Canad…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:21 PM
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Let me assume you're a conservative and I know race issues are hard for you when you learn about them on WND.com with a bunch of other angry white people who love saying nasty things about black folk and you come to think that's normal. It's really not. Opposing political views doesn't turn into a racial attack unless you are making a racial attack. You have to say that black is like this or that because they are black, or blacks are usually like 'X' bad thing. Another easy test is if he would n…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 08:03 AM
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As Beyonce would say, "Bow down B*tches" it's RAINNing on your parade.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:41 AM
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OMG! In 16 pages of recommendations, RAINN urged the task focus to remain focused on the true cause of the problem. “In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. RAINN just called the 'Rape Culture' push a UNFORTUNATE TREND! Fellas let's go troll some feminist sites to celebrate, heh heh. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lo…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:39 AM
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No harm no foul, but I'll be honest the whole interracial dating push did happen. Black men married outside the race more than any other men along with Asian women. Black women were most racially loyal. We have an equal number of men and women (bit more women) so women should work to make sure their men don't suck to the extent that's possible. We as a society dropped the ball on boys but it was because women insisted we were already giving them too much attention. In this way women dropped the …
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:29 AM
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Racial politics isn't really that hard. If people here can't handle it then I don't know how they function in the society. Is it that really hard not to hate on minorities? Is it really that hard to be as supportive of their issues as you would other groups? It's not hard. People who take comfort in being indifferent or secretly against minorities are the ones who have a ton of anxiety. What I'm more worried about is the maturity of the people here and if they can't handle race then gender issue…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:04 AM
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The headline is misleading considering they haven't been adjudicated.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 04:00 AM
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The fact that they have gone unprocessed across the country is indicative of a huge problem. Yes the problem is it's freaking expensive.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:57 AM
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The problem with VAWA was it's one sided focus on women. Trying to help women and NOT help men on purpose was the problem. You don't seem to understand the issues well enough to speak so boldly. I became a MRA after educating myself, not some insane desire to take up some counter cultural narrative. Women's issues that are human issues should be labeled as such. They don't get to take domestic violence or sexual violence and make it all about women because that exclusion would be sexist.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:51 AM
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VAWA gives about 500 million a year. Testing all of America's rape kits would cost 1-2 billion dollars.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:47 AM
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The lack of attention to men's sexual victimization is a Men's Rights issue not any and all rape on the planet. Being focused on men is a practical limitation to address a ignored population of victims. Feminists have countless platforms and forums and we have few. We ought use our limited attention and resources to focus on MEN! Some rape kits might belong to men but this issue is well enough covered by feminist. Anti-rape activists are quick to point out that, although one-third of women exper…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:46 AM
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It really doesn't make sense that you count what you don't know for the purposes of fear mongering about a broken system by including people who haven't even reported a crime into a conviction rate. IMO that would be dishonest sensationalist activism. Rape isn't a HUGE problem, it's a ordinary crime problem like many others. Even the most inclusive studies (CDC) put it at 1.1% of men and women each year. Their stats are 2-3 times that of other government estimates. If I had to guess I'd say abou…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:28 AM
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There is a nice debunking here. Exerpt: This is a rather common infographic retrieved from the RAINN website, and it’s as misleading as it is inaccurate. The problem is that the supposed “experts” writing this apparently don’t understand the difference between a “person accused of rape” and a “rapist.” In the same way, those “100 rapes” aren’t really “100 rapes,” they’re 46 alleged rapes and 54 guesses at rapes that may have happened but not been reported. I saw a post recently that termed this …
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:27 AM
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You probally are check out this link: There is a chart on page 7. Having seen the meaning of “herbivore men” expanded and confused in this way, in 2009 I wrote Herbivore Men will Bring your Last Love and redefined this concept. I emphasized that for me “herbivore” refers not to a man’s external appearance but to his internal thoughts and feelings. I then offered the following definition: “Herbivore men are kind and gentle men who, without being bound by manliness, do not pursue romantic relation…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:17 AM
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I hope you go and record it if possible. Feel free to voice your opposition to views you disagree with and damn the consequences.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:08 AM
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You are self deluded. We promote actual gender equality and I don't think you understand the connection between that and egalitarianism which is linked on the side bar.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:04 AM
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If you can't afford to send people to school then you can't send them to school. The girl could clean the house after. The sexism might come in when you have to choose because your too poor to send all of your kids and since boys are expected to support families it would make sense for them to send boys to school in that situation. The girl can get married and be supported by another man but the boy must have money to be able to marry a girl. So yes, my first thought was poverty...just poverty.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 02:45 AM
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True even hating white men or women would be racist but I don't extend that to critiquing the use of racial solidarity among a dominant group to marginalize another racial group. Fighting those using race to organize the oppression of other races would require you mention the race of people organizing to achieve that end. From what you describe it seems to be more of a nationality issue. It's in group bias against itself. Also it's harder to call that kind of thing racism because we're talking a…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 02:24 AM
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All leftist are racist? You could be Glenn Beck from his crazy days but even Fox had to let him go. Marxism fully implemented is race neutral (oppressive equality for all) while extreme right wing nationalism tend to be all kinds of racist. There are racist leftist but the xenophobic racist parties in Europe are right wing groups like the National Front. So your sh*t do stink and so does the lefts whenever they go to extremes. You talk like a right going to extremes and there nuts like you drag …
/r/MensRights14/03/14 02:13 AM
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Seems like the chance to "trash black people" got missed here. Is that how your read because I read in context. Exactly why do you think he went out of his way to trash this women for being black? If a white women did exactly the same thing would he follow that with a similar diatribe about how lousy white women are? No, dude and you need to wake up to the racist on the right if you want to deal with the problem instead of giving them cover. White nationalist can't come out and declare their ide…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 11:47 PM
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If you can't see it then your idea of a dog whistle is bull horn. It's like you waiting for him to say: "I think most of them N****s are smut loving shit that ain't worth a damn but I like my black neighbors because their religious and conservative." The caricature is in his head. This is a professor who I see as being in the wrong but dignified nonetheless. The leap to something else is what's going on in this bigots head because he's the one who negatively stereotypes blacks all the time. Cons…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 11:35 PM
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I won't stand for this racist bullshit which not uncommon at 'The Spearhead' which I saw from their coverage of the Trayvon shooting (yes, why would they even be covering that issue as if the right to shoot unarmed black boys walking home from the store was a men's rights issue). Incidentally, I’ve often wondered why the absolute worst kind of black women are so often promoted in universities, almost as though those in charge are deliberately creating a caricature of black women as offensive pol…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 11:13 PM
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I thought your comment was very nice but I'll keep playing the angry black man.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 10:39 PM
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I agree with you. Women have the right to put you out the room if their dropping a deuce or your beloved child out their nether regions. It's long been customary to give women this privacy during child birth for far longer than dads have been in the room. Besides would you want some guy you hate in the room while you're going through that kind of hell. Not knowing when the child is born is another matter all together.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 09:40 PM
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I wouldn't call it typical, most are strategically smarter than that
/r/MensRights13/03/14 09:34 PM
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you cannot reason with them because they are too invested in the male oppressor/female oppressed paradigm This is politics. You check their power by winning support and when they see their support hemorrhaging they'll change their tune. The cult filled with self righteous hypocrites who get of on exploiting their superior victim status. That's something we can severely diminish, at which point they will appear to be what they really are. The statistics are on our side, and public frustration wit…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 09:34 PM
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My first thought was poverty. Just poverty.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 09:24 PM
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Years of study is good enough in terms of measuring education opportunity and if anybody is getting left back a year it would probably be the males. In America boys are 50% more likely to get left back than girls. The usual deperssing list of failure: Boys account for 71 percent of all school suspensions. Fifty-nine percent of Black boys and 42 percent of Hispanic boys report being suspended. (U.S. Dept of Ed and Schott Foundation Report) Boys comprise 67 percent of all special education student…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 09:21 PM
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All I have to say is WOW, I knew women were getting more education in the west but this is ridiculous. Now feminists are losing global arguments on women's education.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 09:19 PM
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Sounds like your gals are more radical than I thought. Surprised they even bothered to debate.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 09:04 PM
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Then I'm sorry for wrongly accusing you of it. (assuming you meant them because I was using him as an example for them)
/r/MensRights13/03/14 09:01 PM
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Well those stats are averages for the nation not a prescription for every locality. That face book post was also a generalization, but a very wrong headed one. I'm sure the vast majority of these outdoor attacks occur in a few densely populated high crime areas. Everybody needn't be concerned, most should't be concerned.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 08:59 PM
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You are right about that. This dialogue is much bigger than the numbers even though apart of the dialogue is showing the numbers don't justify the fear mongering by those advancing misconceptions about everything from the number of victims to the percentage of false claims. Winning the war of perceptions matters a lot, simply getting people to openly question anti rape activists as they do now is itself a significant victory.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 08:44 PM
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You realize hat no one listens to feminists right? Is that supposed to be a joke? Of course people listen to them. You've been setting public policy since the 70's and that's just second wave. We get laughed out of as many meetings as you all, there's no conspiracy there. Just people trying to improve the world as best they can, just like you. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's politics. Securing influence through strategic misinformation is old as gossip. They have been doing that and correctin…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 08:39 PM
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And you know what, I have no sympathy for this feminist appeasing POS. Yeah I feel you. It sucks to be a liberal MRA, but I'm not torn when it comes to basic fairness. You don't sell men out to make women happy or vice versa. The wage gap stats are bogus and pitching that lie even after politifact calls you out is inexcusable. You can play politics but there is a price to be paid for pandering to lobby of dishonest perception distorting manipulative opportunist (which can even be me but I have b…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 08:33 PM
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Well my comments weren't the least bit diplomatic. I insisted the focus on gender has marginalized the discussion on race and blamed white women's self serving manipulation of social justice (gender before race) for causing the problem. I intended to make people uncomfortable and sew dissent within the ranks. The feminists group think must be broken if we're ever to formulate a objective context that doesn't revolve around relatively privileged white women feeling inadequate and sorry for themse…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 08:11 PM
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Yeah, they didn't bother asking if boys were sad. The compassion gap is a problem and those stats on net worth for single women versus single men seem far fetched unless their counting single women with children.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:49 PM
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Thanks for the link. I can tell from the tittle I'm about to be really mad. Edit: I said my piece. The article wasn't that bad: Yes, by almost every social measure, African-American men, and boys in particular, fall behind at alarming rates. They are suspended from school the most, incarcerated the most, have the highest rates of unemployment, commit disproportionate amounts of violent crime, and have some of the lowest high school and college graduation rates. Frequently their encounters with l…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 05:32 PM
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The lying is completely unacceptable and people need to keep calling him on it until he get's the message. Count me as one angry liberal standing up against his intentionally deceptive framing of the wage gap issue. In fact I'm pretty damn sick of him throwing men under the bus in general and he does it time after time. You'd think the only voters in the democratic party were women's activist. He's thrown only a few crumbs at minority men, and done nothing for men in general. There is a serious …
/r/MensRights13/03/14 05:23 PM
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At this point all we have to do is sit back and watch it happen. Feminism is dead was so 90's. It's still here so I wouldn't suggest sitting back. They'll reinvent themselves and it's our job to insure that new identity is male friendly by keeping the pressure on. It's time for equality in gender equality movements.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 07:55 AM
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I think the issue gives us a cause to rally men on campus like no other. Honestly we're really talking about trying to protect 0.1% of the male student population who gets hit with formal accusations in a given year but we should keep at it.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 07:51 AM
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We're 'taking on' feminism. Feminists have been 'taking on' white men. Feminism is predominately 'white women taking on white men'. We're doing it anyway, we just don't call them on their identity just like they do with men to gain an upper hand. Keep in mind these women also gather allies in other racial groups to back them in attacking their own brothers, fathers, and sons. Like I said white men aren't going to get on board, but those of us who aren't needn't show the same restraint. It is the…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 07:34 AM
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Thus instead of vying for representation in an endless struggle, I think it more rational to eliminate the favoritism of benefit allocation. I actually think we need more male teachers not for the male teachers benefit but that of the students. Just having a few in the school would be a big change. The gender diversity is a means of achieving ends that extend beyond granting a individual employment. The same goes for college admissions. Coeds need both sexes to be coeds. IMO, I do think colleges…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 07:23 AM
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The source is fine but the stats are bad. They use lifetime rates and when you get info on male victimization from CDC you must use 12 month rates. There is a HUGE difference between the do and I think it has a lot to do with how men recall victimization over long periods of time. They tend to normalize the experience. For example: nearly 1 in 5 women and 1 in 71 men in the United States have been raped at some time in their lives and nearly 1 in 2 women and 1 in 5 men have experienced other for…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:53 AM
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LOL!!! That's really something.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:48 AM
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The hostile environment sounds like feminists reasoning. High school boys don't know that much about college life to be put off ahead of time by the fear of false allegations. I would nonetheless use that argument to push back against feminists. A hostile environment can be a poster of a sexy lady on a wall so it sure as heck can be a kangaroo campus court system with a crazy feminists running around trying to portray your entire gender as an imminent rape threat.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:46 AM
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I would not worry about being falsely accused of murder. That's my point, but false allegations are bigger than that. Lots of things never make it to the police that nonetheless do a lot of damage to peoples reputations.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:42 AM
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Many men here have said women in leadership roles are in fact treated unfairly but I'm reluctant to take that stance because I realize how it would seriously weaken our general arguments regarding a wide array of issues from pay gaps, to quotas, or even affirmative action. I can't speak from experience when it comes to women not being respected as leaders because I've always found myself around strong women and their leading is what I tend to expect. I actually consider male leadership to be a t…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:41 AM
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I forget sometimes people don't follow my stream of thought from one forum to the next. I was speaking as someone who has been on this issue from the first Dear Colleague letter. I'd already read the 1 in 4 study by then and have time and again suggested the use of real police instead of campus police. What caught my attention was a article in a small publication that pointed out how few reported rapes there were. It effectively debunked the 95% non reporting claim. It was more like 99.9% at som…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:28 AM
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They seem to have a real problem accepting sometimes girls and women have lousy personalities and need to be told about themselves. Being bossy is often a sign you only care about getting your way no matter how those around you feel. It's bossy as hell to ban bossy so it's obvious which raises questions about the kind of women who would go about promoting such a campaign.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:12 AM
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Debunking the wage gap isn't as simple as dropping a statistics. You have to break down the myriad of choice differences between the sexes. They won't give up one of their major issues so it's better you force them to prove how this discrimination would work in theory. How could you have two people doing the same work and pay one far less? Why higher men if women work cheap? That's where you can get them thinking. Something can't be right if you have a stable wage gap over many decades after gen…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 04:07 AM
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Knowing for sure that the horrible things feminists say about men in general aren't true along with the statistics and sources to back it up.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 03:41 AM
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If we were to post everything about free speech on campus we'd be busy for a very long time. I think it would need it's own sub and I'm sure there is one.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 03:13 AM
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I recognize this lady from a forum on feminist porn. I'm serious I saw it on youtube and I was really impressed. This is right wing click bait. The lady is a feminist but she's not leading a counter protest against men's rights, she's just fighting for women's reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 03:12 AM
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That's awful and I wouldn't be against suing the school for gender discrimination. Boys should not be expected to put up with this ideologically motivated gender bias one generation after the next. Gender symmetry in domestic violence is something I take for granted but I really shouldn't. So many people don't know and that's why these people can get away with what amounts to a hate campaign against men and boys.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 02:22 AM
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you mean like how the democrats supported slavery? No like the the most racist portion of the democratic party becoming Republicans after the 1964 civil rights act was passed. that hilarious coming from someone who supports mens rights, men being half the population, making up most of congress and basically ruling the earth for the last 10,000 years. Yes it is hilarious but convincing yourself to giving up your rights to support the welfare of half of the population whom you are naturally inclin…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 02:06 AM
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There is no difference in substance. Women don't get freedom from responsibility for their actions because they get pregnant. Remember that equality thing? It' kind of important to the movement.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:44 AM
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You shouldn't be worried about either raping you because statistically that's extraordinarily unlikely. Stranger rape is rare(10-15%). Outdoor rape even more rare(3%). Our irrational fears are no basis for public policy because they lead to irrational policies.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:41 AM
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Even if I drop that point entirely, is being forced to penetrate not considered sexual assault? If it is, do the numbers between men and women attain parody? Yes it would be sexual assault and here are the NISVS 2010 numbers: Notice the lifetime prevalence gap: More than one-quarter of women (27.2%) have experienced some form of unwanted sexual contact in their lifetime (Table 2.1). This equates to over 32 million women in the United States. The 12 month prevalence of unwanted sexual contact rep…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:38 AM
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Like I said, I was playing devils advocate. One of the most common counters to our push on false accusations on campus is the small number of accusations. Research by sympathetic parties shows this is true. A school of 15,000 might have 5-10 allegations a year. It's vastly more likely to be kicked out for other reasons. Another odd thing is we spend more time on false allegations than we do the gender gap in higher education. Fortunately feminists aren't really working hard to call us on stuff l…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:24 AM
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I was just thinking about that guy with the Iran post yesterday and how we'd be doing him and other Muslim men dirty by making them a default scapegoat of sorts. We should care about such things.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:19 AM
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I don't understand the basis behind everyone thinking that every job should be 50/50 They shouldn't be but diversity is a relevant issue especially in areas where gender related issues often come up like hiring, child services, and the education of young children. Show them how ridiculous affirmative action is in general. It can be especially when it's hijacked by ideologues looking to score an advantage instead of serving it's intended purpose. I'd want affirmative action for men in areas where…
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:14 AM
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I see people trying to avoid a Tittle IX complaint as the MRM grows. The women's center without one for men is inexcusable. The tittle "Women's Center" is clearly hostile to men. Imagine telling women to come to the "Men's Center" to discuss their gender related issues and to trust they'd be impartial. That crap wouldn't fly.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 12:10 AM
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It's wonderful that they chose the Men's Rights angle. At least some of us out there are getting the job done.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 11:22 PM
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From the article: The woman said that when she began sleeping with Sinclair ... she thought he was in an open relationship with his wife and that the couple was looking for a woman to complete a threesome. The woman said she assumed her relationship with Sinclair would end once the Iraq deployment was over. But, she said, Sinclair broke down crying and told her that he had lied and that he was in a loveless marriage and wanted the affair to continue. This was a consensual relationship with a wom…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 11:20 PM
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I'm more revolted by white women playing these games to tear down white men while they sit in a position created for them by white men. They are just as privileged by function of their heritage. It's not like successful white men only produce male offspring. We need to take white women's status, power, and privilege on directly so they can not use it to attack white men. Notice how few minorities are doing this... Wake up. This is gender power play is about a minority of white women who see it a…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 11:13 PM
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Please don't go picking on Muslims with that islamphobe stuff. The middle east is a hot mess but they aren't the only ones with gender issues. We have tribal cultures, animist, and all sorts who are heavily reliant on gender roles. Need I remind you of our own legacy under the Judeo Christian tradition?
/r/MensRights12/03/14 11:04 PM
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The problem is that if the fact of the matter were that men were doing most of the raping, the statistics would also read this way. Couldn't it be that the science is correct, the deck isn't stacked, and we should look at the problem for what it is, honestly? The statistics don't read that way, they are reported that way. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE! It should be noted the NIPSVS presents no statistics on male victims of rape through penetration for the last 12 months. This is interesting because the 2…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:59 PM
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Man, if you sincerely don't think that a rape resulting in a pregnancy is any worse an outcome than the alternative I don't even know what to say to you. A better question is why are you focused on statistically unlikely melodrama? The bigger issue is the statistically likely male victimization being ignored along with female perpetration. We are here to fill in the blanks not parrot the emotional appeals of feminists. I'm full of compassion but I don't cherry pick my victims and that's what we …
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:56 PM
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The point I make is not to say that the threat of pregnancy is salient to the problem of rape That risk is almost statistically irrelevant. Women ovulate one day a month. If fertilization happens there is a 85% chance of it not succeeding. We are talking about something like 1% of rapes resulting in pregnancy but it's not my job to do the digging, that's your job as a MRA. Use google and verify your facts. Don't rely on biased feminists sources and go straight to academic and government studies …
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:55 PM
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Go read up and learn the facts then you'll know what you need to do which is to educate other ignorant people like yourself. http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013/09/04/the-startling-facts-on-female-sexual-aggression/ cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf http://www.genderratic.com/p/836/manufacturing-female-victimhood-and-marginalizing-vulnerable-men/ The cover up on male victims and female perpetrators is what we've been fighting. That's why you keep seeing those things poste…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:52 PM
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People like you and I are outgrowing them, realizing that what's important is to share ideas and put our biases aside, one way or the other. Focus on what's true, and what's fair, and let our thinking be guided by hard evidence and scientific reasoning, whatever the data may tell us. You haven't even understood the debate because you won't do the work to understand the issues. Sadly many other MRA's have also let you down by failing to make solid arguments. They think this is some kind of feel g…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:48 PM
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I'm going to unsubscribe to this subreddit now because I am disgusted by the downvotes that you're receiving, even though you're making really good points. The points are garbage and ignorant. It's a man saying men can't be raped by women when we have men come here and post their stories of being raped by women. The fact you don't read the FAQ, do your own research, read the studies is not OUR FAULT! We make a solid case that's so good that feminists are changing their positions in response to o…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:45 PM
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A male is incapable of intercourse unless aroused, the same isn't true of a woman. That's false. Male arousal is a function of their autonomic nervous system just like women's. Studies show about 5% of women orgasm during rape. EDUCATE YOURSELF! http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/science-arousal-during-rape To talk about rape prevention without addressing the massive disparity between the genders in perpetration and victimhood is to stick your head in the sand. Sticking their head in …
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:42 PM
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Fine point but better we use the mountain of evidence at our disposal showing the massive cover up of female perpetration and male victimization. http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013/09/04/the-startling-facts-on-female-sexual-aggression/
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:37 PM
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The physical dimensions cease to be relevant when most sexual violence in studies is due to inebriation. Drunk men are as powerless as drunk women. Then we have child sexual abuse with women showing up as 25% of perpetrators. Educate yourself first. There would be no MRM if we didn't have facts on our side. The fact that rape is a crime related to sexual reproduction makes it a much different crime from, say, theft. No it does not. That's like saying child kidnapping is worse but lesser if the k…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:36 PM
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Rape is defined so only women women would appear as victims. Men's genitals are on the outside so a penetration based definition is gender biased. When it comes to forced sex studies show the genders are nearly equal. http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/cdc-being-made-to-penetrate-isnt-rape/ Seriously if you want to be a MRA freaking educate yourself. We don't need to hold your hand. Go read the FAQ or something.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:29 PM
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It's entirely wrong headed to assume all wrong action is due to ignorance of social conventions. Women also sexually violate others, when are you going to start talking to them about it? From the one sided advocacy they could even plead ignorance.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:27 PM
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Better we as MRA's teach people that females are also perpetrators in substantial numbers and a gender neutral approach is the ethical thing to do.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:26 PM
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You don't single out one sex for this kind of negative messaging because it hurts them. You don't demonize boys to make girls feel safe worse yet it ignores sexual abuse boys face which is according to studies 1 in 6 by age 18. Check out www.1in6.org
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:24 PM
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It's gender biased and it ignores female perpetrated sexual violence. http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/cdc-being-made-to-penetrate-isnt-rape/
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:22 PM
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I think you need to realize both sexes engage in sexual assault. Women's prisons actually report twice the rate of inmate on inmate sexual violence as men's. If you need links I got it.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:21 PM
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The core argument of MRA's is that women also force themselves on men/boys not that men need to be taught to be good because they are just awful people and women are wonderful. http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/cdc-being-made-to-penetrate-isnt-rape/
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:19 PM
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Girls do force sex on boys. You need to learn a bit more if you think it doesn't happen. http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/cdc-being-made-to-penetrate-isnt-rape/
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:17 PM
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I'm not so concerned with their delusion in that area as their willful ignoring of male victims.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:16 PM
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How certain are you that women forcing men to penetrate them is not included in these statistics? 100% certain because its not included by definition. I'll give you the link you need to educate yourself. http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/cdc-being-made-to-penetrate-isnt-rape/ http://www.genderratic.com/p/836/manufacturing-female-victimhood-and-marginalizing-vulnerable-men/ cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf Look at chart on male sexual victimization under "forced to p…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:15 PM
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Is there any reason to believe these statistics mean specifically vaginal penetration with a penis? I was under the impression that specific definition being the only way to define rape was actually rare. Am I wrong? The FBI definition defines it as anal, oral, vaginal penetration. There is no inclusion of anything having to do with a penis being made to penetrate or penetrated (insertion into urethra).
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:12 PM
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These stats become meaningless when males aren't even aware of the fact a female forcing themselves on them is rape because rape is defined as penetration. As many men as women were forced to have sex, in the CDC NISVS 2010 the distinction is merely a matter of external versus internal genitalia.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:10 PM
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Why does this click bait crap keep topping vital issues?
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:08 PM
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Optimal financial abortion would require a would be fathers consent. You work backwards from there but I'm not really a fan of it.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:06 PM
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You are right about that. They might very well be more screwed.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:04 PM
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You echo my sentiments. I've long said head on attack of white women's position of privilege is they way to go. We take them down and the house of cards will fall. White men and women should be seen as class equals but the white men are reluctant to get on board with it. White women(feminist) have been attacking white men as if they didn't share the same advantages whatever they may be. Exposing that would do a lot to diminish their victim status and their abuse of power over social justice. Bla…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:58 PM
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This is the first tactic that actually scares me. We might want to head this off by coming out as pro choice and extending that into a campaign of "Fathers By Consent". That's what MRA's did on that article in the comments. It was pretty darn smart if I say so myself, but it wasn't my idea.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:42 PM
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That's what pro life people say to women who want abortions.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:41 PM
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Stopped reading when he tried to cast the MRM as the source of HR447. Fucking bullshit. That comes from the pro-life christian right, and everybody knows it. Who is to say we are not one in the same? The conservative is the easiest straw man for the left to take down and that's why those engaged in liberal bashing need to check themselves. We have the left on the ropes about MRA's we need to keep agitating. IF they label us pro life effectively we'd hardly get a chance to raise our real issues.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:40 PM
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The echos of the SNL Skit are troubling. This isn't as easy to fight off as the other misrepresentations.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:38 PM
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LOL!!!!! There is another Black Male feminist who writes for "The Nation" and Feministing named Mychal Denzel Smith that annoys me to no end. He was on MSNBC talking about the Obama initiative for minority boys and he acted like a straight hater because they weren't talking about girls. These black men are the worst. Not only are they sharing a demographic with the worst off men in America, they proceed to throw them under the bus to boost white women's victim cred. Forgive my racialist diversio…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:17 PM
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MRA's owned the comment section. No problem there, but that young man seriously needs to get his head out his azz coming from the only historically black all male college in America with that pathetic tripe. He needs to intersect on black men's struggles if anything not defeating those fighting for men and boys.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:09 PM
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I think our taking a solid stance on affirmative action for males of all races due to the lopsided college enrollment would really shake up the lefts relationship with feminists one sided narrative. Strategically it's a good move and it's also valid under established principals of equality and diversity. Historical oppression is one standard, and being disadvantaged is another. Males are obviously for whatever reason disadvantaged and they deserve redress just like other groups. Most important i…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 08:55 PM
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I must play devils advocate here and recognize the number of accusations are so low at Universities that it doesn't qualify as a major issue in terms of protecting men. On the other hand this fight sends a message about the reality of false allegations which are far more common in places like family courts. Winning here will help us win there. In the end we want justice for all involved, which amounts to due process in legal terms. There are guilty people going on trail along with the innocent. …
/r/MensRights12/03/14 08:46 PM
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I hear that.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:46 AM
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Morehouse University: The only all male historically black institution of higher learning in the United States The fact he's from there and he came out like that really says something.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:45 AM
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Yeah I put this link here and if you conservatives won't stop trashing your leftist allies you'll find yourselves by yourselves. Tell me how many human rights campaigns has the RIGHT effectively fought? The lefties are the only ones who got it done time and again. You can't just hate and trash talk your way to greater compassion for men and boys. The only way they will sympathize with mens issues if if you put the words "gay" or "black" in front of the word "mens" I'm done with the white people …
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:37 AM
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Just assume patriarchy means a traditional male dominated culture where the father (male) heads society and family. Activist complaining about it speak to the traditions we retain from that time but sadly they don't stop themselves from exploiting those traditions for women's benefit.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 07:27 AM
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That was a awful and heartless debunking. The author assumed the reader had little or no compassion for men an relied on that more than anything else.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 06:09 AM
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I don't see any initiative here. You haven't even given a prevalence rate up front to show how many lives might be saved. Also we don't have to cherry pick disorders that affect women. The focus is on boy victims (who get less attention) but not exclusively female perpetrators even though it's good to remind biased people they do exist.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 06:05 AM
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Race matters because you want people to look like the person they are pretending to be. They need appearance diversity for the various roles their actors play.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 02:02 AM
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Heck that can happen here so long as it's the right body part. I suppose in Sweden you can get hit with sexual assault for non consensual a hand shake.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 02:01 AM
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Men wised up and started putting companies in their wives name. It really made no sense to favor white women who are already married to white men. If a given race of either gender have a economic advantage it will benefit either sex but more so with men having than women because that pattern of wealth transfer is culturally well established.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:59 AM
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It demonstrates that girls are doing a lot better in school along with many other statistics. To focus on executive leadership which is a niche role shows how superficial and elitist their agenda has become.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:55 AM
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I'm happy to hear that. Stay strong.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:50 AM
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Thanks. I was seeing lots of random people posting what we should have been posting so I put this together. Those random people (male and female) out there kick more feminist butt than this sub ever will so I'm happy the MRM isn't limited to it and even those outside MRM are willing to call feminists overreach more often than I've ever seen before.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:49 AM
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Honestly, I get the complaint that women are often seen as bossy where men would be seen as assertive. That should certainly be addressed. I don't get the complaint. Being in leadership is not immunity from criticism and if you let them assert this narrative along with the many others then boys issues won't see the light of day for another generation. We can't afford to not be biased because we're at too much of a disadvantage. Just seeking parity won't start until we crack the victim narrative.…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:45 AM
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There is attention, and then there is power. They are wielding power.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:39 AM
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The video has been down voted almost 50% and the comments section might as well be r/mensrights. That's some effective agitation. We're not being against girls in leadership, but we are against positioning girls as disadvantaged when in reality it's our boys who need the attention as they have for several decades now.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:39 AM
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Where was your comment on #banbossy while it was trending? You could have said that, and nobody would stop you. Lot's of people would see it and we could have built momentum for a focus on boys needs.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:37 AM
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What's sad is this sub did nothing about the twitter trend except twiddle their thumbs. You can get a twitter account and say something. Type in the hashtag along with your comment and click SEND! That was your chance to raise awareness about issues boys have in education that came and went. There is some action in activism! Channel your inner social justice warrior and do something.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:36 AM
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The MRM and this sub need to step up their game. We can't leverage attention without being more active than we have been. Thankfully there are superior activist working on our behalf but I don't think we do nearly enough to support them.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:33 AM
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Of course they care. Don't be so arrogant. MRA's remain underdogs at the mercy of powerful well established feminist activists who are beyond our control. They have celebrities, writers, journalist and many well respected publications at their disposal and we have AVFM and the comment sections of web sites. We are rightly mocked for not having much of a real world presence along with failing to engage in real world activism. Right now feminists organizations could make a better claim of actually…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 01:31 AM
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This link gets submitted like every other day.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 11:56 PM
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I think people here would appreciate sex positive feminism. They even make porn so we should respect their male sexuality positive direction.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 11:46 PM
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I for one appreciate the question. I must feed my inner feminist from time to time. That reminds me I haven't been to feministing in a while.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:39 PM
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I would say major men's and women's issues overlap in many areas but those facing men alone are more severe than those affecting women alone unless we count child bearing, single motherhood, etc...
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:38 PM
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Simply saying women are victimized more by sexual violence is misleading without backing it up with statistics especially for the uninitiated. Women's sexual violence perpetration is under studies so it's hard to even draw these conclusions. I can pick some stats off the top of my head like 25% of those who sexually abuse children are female but I've seen both higher and lower numbers. I've seen higher rates of boy sexual victimization in a nation wide study from India. So who is to say we know?…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:35 PM
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And they threw tantrums about it in AMR (quite amusing actually). The ones that are left of the AMR invasion are somewhat pushing for feminist base rules (ie allowing racist comments about whites but not blacks). Sorry but that sounds more like you pulling r/whiterights into r/mensrights. Don't conflate race and gender like whites are some oppressed group. Racism against whites isn't the problem, it's feminists attacking white males. Try focusing on those white women saying these things about wh…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:39 PM
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Sounds like a great cause. I'd be happy to show solidarity with men in need where ever the are. Human trafficking isn't just about sex, and the director of "12 Years A Slave" was raising the issue of modern slavery at the UN after he won the Oscar.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:09 PM
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I think we shouldn't shun masculinity or femininity. Free to be who you want to be is fine by me. To push boys one way and girls another is enforcing gender roles. We're seeking universal principals not gender specific ones.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:35 PM
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I'd drop the gender traitor language. For one it's offensive to female MRA's and I actually care about offending them.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:34 PM
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Do I have the study for you, and A Voice For Men also did a piece on Iran. The study is on women in STEM where Iran leads the world.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:32 PM
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IMHO Chapin's videos are lame. I would not show them to anybody on the fence about the MRM.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:27 PM
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Bernard Chapin comes to mind and there have been others. Elam isn't falling into the left right trap like some fools and we're lucky he hasn't.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:25 PM
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AVFM simply gives ammunition to people who believe that, and that ammunition is used to paint us all as enemies of progress/equality. We are enemies of their progress which is why they fight us. They aren't going to abandon male bashing as a tactic and I don't think you are being realistic. They have been suppressing opposition to their nonsense for decades and you really think they are about to give up now just as we start putting some dents in their armor? Jezebel doesn't even want the title o…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:23 PM
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You are starting to sound like Mr. Divide & Conquer. Their rhetoric is for the most part on point and fairly tame. They aren't even angry rants. Did I mention they have every lead female MRA in the movement? They've been on TV, they've been interviewed by major publications. In fact we should be letting them ORGANIZE US!
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:17 PM
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AVFM IS NOT RADICAL! They are vocal, smart, controversial, inflammatory, but far from radical. I see their approach to activism as in line with most of other social justice movements. They aren't there to apologize for being done wrong by the society, they are there to challenge the society to do the right thing. BTW: The campaign of apologetic doesn't work until you are in the mainstream. Feminists can do that MRA's can't. They got Beyonce, Sherly Sanderburg, we got Paul Elam, Erin Prizzey, Kar…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:13 PM
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i say can be written off as just mysoginistic bullshit. now this movement is tarred with the brush of paul elam and AVFM. so in r AVFM isn't misogynistic and it has the best female MRA's in the movement. Get a freaking clue and respect the foundation they created for us. Do you really think all those very smart self determined women would be working for a women hating organization? Get real dude. Don't label them radials for calling a duck a duck without cowering in fear of harsh judgments being…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:10 PM
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Feminism has some fine points and their perspective informs the MRM. Without their ground work we wouldn't even be talking gender equality. That said they are failing to live up to their principles and they need to be called on it. Their movement is so dependent on male bashing that they can't give it up without dismantling the entirety of the established narrative. We are fighting to marginalize the movement for that reason or at least force it into defining itself as something much less influe…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:06 PM
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I wanted us to act on the #banbossy trend that happened yesterday but that ship has already sailed. We have to jump on trends like that and put our two cents in. Those tweets end up being featured in articles and they will post opposing views because controversy sells. Really we should be on top of all topics trending on feminism because they inevitably involve men/gender on some level. Non feminists/MRA perspectives need to be heard. Piggy backing can work for us and it has been for a long time…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:56 PM
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I don't really think we're wasting much energy at all by allowing links to some "joke/song/advert". we are when it takes up a third of every page. I'm with you on that. We need to get serious. Other subs are way ahead of us on the raising the intellectual bar and the issues we deal with are major life and death problems affecting half of humanity. It's not a joking matter and I feel our complacency is routed in our cultural lack of compassion for men. Suffering men isn't something we were raised…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:54 PM
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Yes it is a low information circle jerk so try posting quality material so we can elevate our minds and engage in deeper debates. Finding allies among enemies isn't going to work out so well until we successfully demonstrate they need our support more than we need theirs. I watched "House of Cards" so now I'm a expert on these things...ha ha. Seriously there are lessons to be learned about politics. We need leverage and our bargaining chip is our support. That chip isn't valuable unless that lac…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:49 PM
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From the article: Some men’s rights groups weren’t happy and in the oft-controversial Men’s Rights subreddit, discussion divided people over right or wrong. I think they got it right and the debate is exactly what we were suppose to be doing. The slippery slope is always a danger when we start criminalizing public photos motivated by sexual interest.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:40 PM
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I am not a fan of mandatory minimums in a society facing a epidemic of mass incarceration and I'm not being hyperbolic. We literally have the worlds largest prison population by a long shot with 25% of the worlds prisoners and 5% of it's population. I would support stiffer sentencing but we must realize that we need these false accusers to confess. Automatic prison would insure their silence and leave the innocent behind bars. Pardon the pun but they got us by the balls.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:36 PM
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The innocence of boys isn't respected like that of girls but it's just as important to their development. Saddling boys with anxieties about the opposite sex can very well lead to them isolating themselves and unlike girls they are unlikely to encounter a member of the opposite sex so interested in them that they'd go through the long grueling process of liberating them from their anxieties. Instead it's more likely that anxiety will be reinforced over time by a culture that demonizes male sexua…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:34 PM
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There may be fewer girls interested in leading but I doubt it's criticism that's the problem. You validate a false narrative by assuming it is which hurts our efforts to re-frame the gender debate.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:26 PM
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Most people don't want to be leaders. If they did maintaining a complex society would be untenable. Following is the default position for most of humanity by our own nature. We barely lead ourselves.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:24 PM
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I think women are significantly more likely to face resentment from their peers for being in a position of authority, even temporarily. I disagree with the exception being women and girls resenting other women and girls. I think you have to stop drinking the feminist kool aid and realize the world changed a while ago. We need not judge gender relations using old stereotypes. I have seen countless girls lead in school and they had no problems being respected. If someone came after them they'd be …
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:23 PM
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"However you dress it up, taking secret pictures of people on public transport stretches the boundaries of what might be considered acceptable behaviour" This from feminists who celebrate taking photos of men taking up too much space on the train so they could publicly shame them.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:18 PM
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Attacking men for showing sexual interest in women is B.S and we shouldn't stand for it. It's a endless well of angst that won't ever be resolved so long as we are sexual beings who lust after one another's bodies. Don't let them get away with it, and challenge on the biological realities they insist on ignoring that includes women's own displays of sexual interest or availability. It's not like men are the ones walking around in mini skirts or skin tight outfits to get attention. Naturally comm…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:14 PM
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Wow that sounds like one fantastic lady. I respect the Jane's of the world who show them (men and women) how it's done. This ban bossy shit is the result of women who have no intention and no desire to do the work. It's entitlement. Indeed that's the nature of the campaign. It's purely a product of clever clever public relations and I seriously doubt any of these women were called "Bossy" as children by their teachers. Other than that 'bossy' isn't much of an insult. It's something you'd call a …
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:16 PM
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The fact is there is a element of personal responsibility and the only thing missing in his (demonspawn) comment was mention of plain sight. If someone intends to hide something it's one thing but it's another to make an effort to circumvent a reasonable expectation of privacy. That's the difference between a perv with a a mirror on his shoe and a person sitting across from a lady in a short skirt who sits with her legs wide open. The legal distinction is necessary as is the real issue of rights…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:57 PM
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I am so sick of weak men who can't even bear to hear another man criticize a women. Grow a damn back bone and if you need to shower women with constant praise to feel comfortable then you ought to know your status is that of a door mat or some other object that can be used and abused without regard for it's humanity. Women are human beings. At times men will have bad things to say about them and just as women have had bad things to say about men. The occasional generalization isn't holding back …
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:43 PM
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Wilson, M. I. & Daley, M. (1992). Who kills whom in spouse killings? On the exceptional sex ratio of spousal homicides in the United States. Criminology, 30, 189-215. (Authors summarize research which indicates that between 1976 and 1985, for every 100 men who killed their wives, about 75 women killed their husbands. Authors report original data from a number of cities, e.g., Chicago, Detroit, Houston, where the ratio of wives as perpetrators exceeds that of husbands.) Never got a good answer on…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 06:34 AM
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I've been dropping tweets reporting the problems of boys in school. We have ADD medicating, drop out rates, graduation rates, studies showing negative bias against boys in elementary schools, rates boys are left back, it's a long list of possibilities. The fact minor problems facing girls trump the major ones facing boys says something about how little people care for them.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:38 AM
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This isn't protest it's education. It's hard to educate people on boy's problems when all they want to do is focus on girls. This is an equality issue, in terms of giving both sexes equal focus. These activists have done NOTHING for boys but the first complaint for you is sexism on account of those who do care about boys using this opportunity to be heard. What's sad is boys issues have to piggy back on feminists agendas rather than feminists having agenda's focused on boys that do something oth…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:36 AM
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The concept of the "natural leader" exists simply to provide an excuse for bullies by saying their bully-ness is biologically ordained. I normally see leadership as guiding a group of people towards a common goal, not abusing people you have power over. The natural leader is good at this without being taught how to get it done and I think the association with bullying is far too cynical. I met leaders and I met bullies, they usually aren't the same people. Natural leaders in particular tend to h…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 01:07 AM
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We need to stand up for boys at #BanBossy while it's trending.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 12:59 AM
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She wasn't discussing the funding gap between men and women on gender specific cancers so I'm not impressed.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 08:33 PM
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No it doesn't fight for equality, it fights for double standards. If we only ban bossy for women it does not bring equality for boys. Wake up. The strategic attack on gender roles for one sex while leaving them in place for the other creates inequality. More importantly either sex can be "bossy" and if we kept this pattern up we'd up with the current paradigm that attacks dominant traits in boys while liberating them in girls.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 08:29 PM
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What does a MRA say to a beautiful women...Are you a feminists?
/r/MensRights10/03/14 07:28 PM
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I disagree. This is feminists using their privilege and power to attack MRA's before people even know what they are. As a lurker you probably weren't debating feminists head on years back when the stereotype they put forth was actually what feminists thought MRA's were. They know better but they aren't about to play fair.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 07:20 PM
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I think good humor can be made out of MRA's capacity for romantic idealism. We can make jokes about women choosing bad boys over the nice guys. [I brought her flowers, and he asked for a blow job... I guess she doesn't like flowers] In this we kill two birds with one stone. We crush the 'women are wonderful' effect and bring to light men's desire for lasting commitment in a culture that encourages women to do the opposite.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 07:18 PM
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White women have always been the main beneficiaries of affirmative action. These schemes to shift funds to women owned companies are easily circumvented by men simply putting a company in their wives name. The gender focus is bogus. Poverty doesn't break down by gender like it does race and I think affirmative action on gender lines for contract work is unnecessary. In the coming days, the U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule in a potentially landmark case on the constitutionality of affirmati…
/r/MensRights10/03/14 07:11 PM
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When I was your age we used to do all sorts of things that could be called sexual harassment but it was in fact young kids exploring their sexuality. We cautiously prodded one another's sexual boundaries because we had to figure this stuff out on our own. Girls grabbed boys and boys grabbed girls. We'd giggle and laugh. If you made a wrong move (boy) you'd definitely be made to regret it by being kept out the fun. We didn't file sexual harassment but we did manage to self police effectively with…
/r/MensRights10/03/14 06:08 PM
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The kind that commit suicide 93% more than women. Men commit suicide 300-400% more than women.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 05:27 PM
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Google needs to visit some schools and take not how many girls are in the student leadership. As it stand girls now make up 70% of school valedictorians. The alpha female is a reality in groups even if feminists want to pretend she doesn't exists. ON top of that women have been leading throughout history and they don't need a lesson in 2014 as if it were unusual to see women to be in power. These scientific woozles like sex doesn't have anything to do with gender and gender is purely cultural ha…
/r/MensRights10/03/14 05:21 PM
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What the "bossy" thing is really about is trying to keep people who aren't perceived as "alpha males" in their place. This means it isn't just women who are subject to this, but all non-alpha men. As such, when used against men (and it often is), it is a form of gender-policing. Which is bad You don't seem to realize there are alpha males and females. The dominant females are ignored by feminists because they don't fit their narrative. Women and girls who are natural leaders naturally lead. We d…
/r/MensRights10/03/14 05:11 PM
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Prison sexual abuse is male and female issue. MRA's ought be the ones to raise awareness about both sexes since both are being ignored at the moment since feminists would rather not talk about female on female abuse nor men victimized by rape. Letting people know that 2-4 times as many women report being sexually abused by other inmates is a good way to break the feminists 'patriarchy' driven narrative on sexual violence and raise awareness about prison rape at the same time.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 05:09 AM
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The feminists are scared because they know the truth is on our side. Don't forget that.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 04:03 AM
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I'm sure they did that. Remember this is the show where they'd rather put a black man in a dress because it's too much trouble to hire a black women to perform sketches.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 04:01 AM
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How does a defense of "the condom just broke" not create enough circumstantial evidence to immediately throw the case out? From the article: She learned of his deceit after she became pregnant and he revealed what he had done in a series of text messages. The woman, who was not identified by the court, obtained an abortion and went to the police.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 08:39 PM
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I disagree. This sub is exactly where it should be posted and discussed. We should look deeper into what the implications of these laws might be. Ever expanding rape definitions are something we have to look out for.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 08:35 PM
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From the aritcle:\ "Because of the deliberate deceit of her partner, the sexual activity was not carried out in the manner that the complainant had agreed to." This is way too broad.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 08:26 PM
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Rooshv isn't even a MRA so why are you using him as an example? These pick up artist are sad people who have let their unsatisfied sexual desires corrupt their character. I do hope they grow out of it before it's too late much like the women who going through their promiscuous phase. Pair bonding is a natural healthy human thing we should value and appreciate. I know it's not for everybody but being jaded about love and relationships is something most of us will have to get through in life. Givi…
/r/MensRights08/03/14 06:14 PM
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Just call it sexism against men and drop the "reverse sexism".
/r/MensRights07/03/14 10:41 PM
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It's all about that Compassion for Men and Boys in MRA land (or at least it supposed to be).
/r/MensRights05/03/14 04:27 PM
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“There is discrimination against female playwrights in the theater community,” said Emily Glassberg Sands, who conducted the research. Still, she said, that isn’t the whole story; there is also a shortage of good scripts by women. As stated in article there are more men writing and individual men produce more scripts than women on average. The answer is yes. Plays and musicals by women sold 16 percent more tickets a week and were 18 percent more profitable over all. In the end, women had to deli…
/r/MensRights05/03/14 04:19 PM
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They are replying to your comment in a relevant way so I don't see how their "in the wrong post".
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:53 AM
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This isn't about men's rights. This is about getting votes. Are Men's Rights groups not lobbying the government for change to give MEN RIGHTS! If the people who support these initiatives do so for votes it doesn't cease to be for the betterment of men's rights. I don't know about you guys, but I don't want idiots voting the people into power in this country. That is a recipe for disaster. I don't know about you but your dumb as dirt politics would set democracy back to when only land owners coul…
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:45 AM
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No dude your racists as fuck. You assume doing anything that might help black people makes you a racists. By your logic MLK would be a racists. Check yourself.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:41 AM
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What is the disparity between female gays committing suicide to males? Good idea maybe I'll post that next, but I think gay versus lesbian. I know trans have it worse than either of those with male to female having it worst of all.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:30 AM
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I don't think you should have the right to vote because I just don't like you. It's pretty much the same logic. You have no idea what these men did or what they have or would contribute to the society. We don't have poll test to determine who can vote in America and there was a time when racists and such would do exactly that to keep the undesirables from voting. Do you want to go back to that? I certainly do not and when we see someone fighting for men's rights we ought support it as a group of…
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:27 AM
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This is about men's rights and how those men vote is irrelevant. Spare us your right wing desperation for votes because you can't stand the demographic shift. Voting Republican isn't a Men's Rights issues. Helping men is. Man lost rights. Man get's rights back. THAT'S WHAT MENS RIGHTS IS ABOUT!
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:23 AM
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There is a lack of compassion for men and boys in our culture which is why we have to stand out as people who care to care about men and boys to remind people that their humanity matters just as much as women and girls.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:21 AM
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Criminals do not have such a hard time re-adjusting as you would think. Really how long were you incarcerated?
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:20 AM
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The vast majority of useless MRA's are too busy sucking up to Right Wing politics to figure our agenda is the welfare of MEN AND BOYS!
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:19 AM
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Also why would giving millions of blacks more votes be any good for the country? Look Mister Grand Wizard. We're not here to elevate your Klan B.S so please kindly take that white supremacist sh*t back to r/whiterights where it belongs. People like you don't give a damn about men and your only here to protect your white male agenda. We don't need or want your kind around and that will only become more apparent as time goes on.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 07:17 AM
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Do you realize the Men's Rights agenda is focused on compassion for men and boys? We don't want the society to beat men who break the law. If a man fails to pay child support I don't want them tied to a post in the public square and beaten. Get your head your behind and recognize what this is about. If you just being sarcastic add the ' /s '
/r/MensRights05/03/14 06:57 AM
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No it's exactly right. The apex fallacy applies to individuals not powerful groups. The person is discussing groups so stop trying to apply gender arguments to something like racial geopolitical power dynamics. The power of whites or Western Power is preeminent in the world by a stretch but the East is catching up fast, and Africa will follow. This isn't power based on skin color but which geographic grouping of people managed to conquer/colonize most of the human population. The impact of those…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 04:43 PM
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This is why we can't have nice things. Conservatives want to play this race baiting game at Men's Rights because so long as they see some group associated with liberals they think it's their duty to hate them. Those on the Right and especially the Rabid Right need to learn how to show respect for all races of men instead of resorting to some ridiculous how unfair the world is for the white man complex. Trust that if you were a Native American man that would sound like some real bull crap. Please…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 04:42 PM
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I don't think this is a case worth fighting over. Not only that the court was lenient and understanding and felt the boy would not re-offend. Judge Prowse told the boy: 'I think it is highly improbable that you will do anything like this again. You do not represent a danger to society. This is what I'm talking about when I say compassion for men and boys. This is what you should have noticed instead of them handing him the mild punishment of registering for 2 1/2 years.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 06:52 AM
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Seriously be and egalitarian and save yourself the trouble. If not you'll be wrapped up in trench gender warfare which isn't for everybody. That said you won't be a feminist and you'll still have to argue with them but not MRA's. If after learning about men's issues you want to be an MRA then join the fight. We need more fair minded people who aren't coming into the movement with all sorts of bitter hang ups. Too many angry men and not enough compassionate ones is a bad mix.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 06:47 AM
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I don't see the problem here. Men's sexual victimization by force is like 1/5 of women's. It's almost always alcohol facilitated for both but much more so for women. Besides I think it's more of a emotional band aide for those who feel vulnerable.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 03:17 AM
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Your projecting your personal ideology onto the movement and inspired by your hatred of others rather than a love of men. Men who don't care about men need to get the hell out of Men's Rights. You're more like a troll of the MRA straw man who wouldn't last two minutes debating a feminists with half a brain because all you have is anger. Caring about men is what matters not being mad at feminists and if we did a better job of that we'd get more respect.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 02:57 AM
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we have little business bringing race politics into the sub. Not unless it's invaded by r/whiterights then we most certainly do. You seem to think the solution to a race problem is to ban minorities from discussing race. That's how Jim Crow worked in the South. It's freaking 2014 and if you can't even post something regarding minority men in a Men's Rights sub that's a problem not with minorities but the whites trying to remove their issues from relevance. This is not even close to what I said. …
/r/MensRights04/03/14 01:29 AM
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What you propose will actually neuter the MRM movement because all the special interests will get all the support (as special interests) and men will still remain uncared for You don't mean men, you mean straight white men. The point of being all inclusive is to not be that because since men like you are so exclusionary to begin with few would want to help you. It's why feminists hate Trans exclusionary radical feminists. People don't like the haters, they hate. It was feminsts hating men that s…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 12:32 AM
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There is no issue segregation nor should there be apart from men or not men. It's one thing to saturate a movement with endless issues but another to say we don't care unless the focus is on men generically. Dealing with minority and gay men is of vital interest or they have no reason to join the movement. Broad support is needed for success and respect. We need more post like this not less. Actually r/mensrights already lost a lot of support for not addressing 'intersectional' issues. I thought…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 12:21 AM
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Crazy PZ Myers account of being threatened with false accusation: I was also subject to accusations of harassment, once upon a time. A female student came into my lab when I was alone, unhappy about an exam grade, and openly threatened me — by going public with a story about a completely nonexistent sexual encounter right there. Zoom, I was right out the door at that instant; asked a female grad student in the lab next door to sit with the student for a bit, and went straight to the chair of the…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 12:14 AM
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Institutional Racism in US Health Care Then again since you post at r/whiterights I doubt you care. Someone mentioned me (u/edtastic) complaining about a post you made at r/whiterights. So I see you think it's your white duty to tear down any race related post made here but I wouldn't go up in white rights to attack white because I respect that different people have different agendas. It's starts being a problem when you bring that white rights agenda here.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 11:35 PM
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You want to segregate while everyone else is trying to integrate. This is exactly why conservatives end up being trouble makers. You'll kill this movement before it get's anywhere with your selfish hateful B.S. roAll men is all men. If a pedophile is in prison being abused we should be fighting to protect them from harm. If they are released from jail and can't live anywhere as a sex offender then we should insist on a more viable policy towards them. The human rights of men is the issue. Not yo…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 11:22 PM
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Helping all men isn't racists, down voting anything that helps or discusses minority men IS RACIST! There is nothing to gain by doing it so why are you doing it? This is about you trying to establish racial dominance not helping men. It's the same crap we saw whites doing in the past that I hoped was left in the past but some people will resurrect it even if there is NOTHING TO GAIN BY DOING SO!
/r/MensRights03/03/14 11:02 PM
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You make some good points and I agree. Rebels against the status quo but so are a great many others. Someone was clearly speaking before they understood what the were up against or how narrow the Men's Agenda really is, real victory wouldn't lead to a whole new world, just one that's a little nicer to men.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 10:35 PM
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This isn't racial bias, it's observation of problems facing a relatively poor demographic of men. You come in right away to say how strongly your against the idea of helping minority men and it's disgusting "White Rights" B.S. I bet the reason white men were left out was the lower impact on that group. If I wanted to talk about suicde I'd leave out black and hispanics because they'd make they'd water down the victimization of white and native men. The gap between the racial groups is huge but yo…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 10:16 PM
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Minority men's issues are MEN'S ISSUE! You White Nationalist can't stand the idea of caring about anybody who isn't white.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 10:15 PM
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I think "Family Law Abuse" is a term that needs to be added to our lexicon.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 10:09 PM
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Then STFU and keep your points to yourself. For real practice what you preach.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 09:26 PM
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You should attend it, record it, and hand out fliers to attendees regarding men's issues even if you don't directly mention Men's Rights. You should be there at question time to raise men's issues particularly those affecting men in higher education like the lack of male sexual assault awareness, the high rate of suicide faced by men, the lack of due process for accused men and most importantly the huge gender gap in higher education. If you need links to studies on men's sexual assault on campu…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 09:21 PM
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I don't really see a problem with this article. It's silly and hyperbolic, but it's cracked.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:55 PM
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Maybe men should have a control over consumer spending bake sale with women having control over 85 cents on the dollar. I yelled "there is no wage gap" but kept walking. I have too much classwork to stand around arguing with people who can't read studies or use reason. Then your really not helping. Get educated and take them on since your lucky enough to be in the hub of activism where you can put up a fight. Your letting the MRM down! Seriously you should have said more and if you don't know wh…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:51 PM
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Who cares, it's not Men's Rights it's Pro life versus Pro Choice. That's not our fight unless we're talking about men's reproductive rights which are non existent.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:47 PM
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Pussies out? Why is this bull crap even posted here? This isn't Fetus Rights or some pro life group. This post should have been deleted for irrelevance not to mention making Men's Rights look bad. These conservatives need to chill with injecting their political agenda into Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:46 PM
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Growth is good and bad. If we get overrun by traditionalist conservatives we'll be permanently set back. I can already see that happening here where lots of men who don't really understand Men's Rights think we are only against feminism and not for helping men alongside encouraging compassion for them.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:30 PM
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It really perplexes me that so many relatively (and actually) intelligent women are caught up in the lies of feminism. It doesn't surprise me at all because it's a movement tailor made to appeal to them right down to the misleading or one sided statistics. It's the duty of the MRM to educate people and set them straight. If you want to be frustrated at something think about all the people who let these lies fly even though they knew the truth.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:28 PM
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There is a small gap of 6-8% according to the CONSAD report commissioned by the department of labor. There are observable differences in the attributes of men and women that account for most of the wage gap. Statistical analysis that includes those variables has produced results that collectively account for between 65.1 and 76.4 percent of a raw gender wage gap of 20.4 percent, and thereby leave an adjusted gender wage gap that is between 4.8 and 7.1 percent. These variables include: A greater …
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:23 PM
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From the article: Despite strong evidence suggesting gender pay equality, there is still a general perception that women earn less than men do, and this perception is just one more factor discouraging women from entering the tech space.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:19 PM
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MRA's seem to want to be the fairer sex and try to establish a victimhood to advance this. Actually we're trying to get society to recognize male victims period. Right now they are intentionally ignored. I hate political correctness and I dont want to create more political correctness by bitching about terms like "man up" This is a compassion for men problem which is at the root of many other problems. If we don't want to care about men's problems we just tell them to 'man up' and leave it at th…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 08:05 PM
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People have been free to post what they want but that doesn't mean we don't need to step up our game. This isn't a entertainment sub, it's a Human Rights sub.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:57 PM
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This just seems like concern trolling to me.. Dude the whole sub amounts to Concern Trolling and I count myself as a proud concern troll for MEN and BOYS! "You really think most of the people in here are gonna call their congressional representative the next time vawa is up for renewal?" No I expect our activism and awareness raising will make it so that the next VAWA is more gender neutral than the last. We want to see more help for male victims regardless of the bills title and fairer treatmen…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:53 PM
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I say all of this as a dedicated jerker btw A exceptionally self aware one.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:52 PM
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Yeah but that might make you a dick...ha ha, just kidding.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:50 PM
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I don't care what they think so long as they aren't right. The problem starts when I start thinking they are right and I'm wasting my time. I've seen many former MRA's make these points and I'm starting to see why. That was before the quality of the Sub dropped so right now it's not even attractive to those who are used to higher quality intellectual discourse that I see going on in other subs relating to gender issues. For example: If I were a man with a story of abuse I wouldn't want to air it…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:48 PM
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You attract attention in the short run and lose the long game because those who come here will see we're not at all serious about dealing with these issues. If we look like a bunch of men whining about the world being unfair to them and that's it we won't have the respect of men who want to fight for our cause. It's not like their dropping the occasional comment will help men and boys. They need to come and find men setting up a framework to change society for the betterment of all with particul…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:46 PM
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News reports about women being violent towards males or a facebook screenshot of someone being a bigot towards males is a lot more impactful for new subscribers than a long, abstract and detached post about male issues. You are talking about circle jerk infotainment when we are trying to build a movement. Who wants to waste their time investing all this effort to simply entertain some bored men? We're fighting for men and boys. This requires we read long and complex breakdowns on the state of ge…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:44 PM
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I agree with you and I was even thinking about making a post regarding the quality drop. In addition to the issues you mentioned I think something on the side bar should make it clear that we are fighting for ALL MEN not just White Straight Men. Any post that's supportive of men in any group or highlights their victimization in our society should be welcomed with support from r/MensRights. We need to do more on Gay, trans, and Minority Men at the very least to improve the image of the sub. Also …
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:38 PM
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From the article: "Since the book came out, Spinelli has been speaking a lot about child sexual abuse. He says he has been "really focusing on the fact that men who molest boys are not gay; they’re child molesters. " I have a serious problem with this in that it does not acknowledge the existence of female abusers. I as ok with the post up until that. We should support victims of sexual abuse regardless of the gender of their perpetrator but to go out of his way to protect gay men and not recogn…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:31 PM
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That was a classic. It got me into Men's Rights along with Paul Elam's early post on Youtube. I'm definitely in the AVFM camp and I love their female MRA's who are some of the best voices in the movement.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:26 PM
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Gay men are men and we should be on board with the Egalitarians as well who more often than not end up fighting on our behalf since men's issues are the most under addressed. We need more post like this not less. It should be clear we are fighting for ALL MEN!
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:23 PM
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Gay Men's Rights are MEN'S RIGHTS. Do you have a problem with gay men or something? I certainly don't and I'm ready to stand and fight beside them for men's rights. Get your head in the game.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:22 PM
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From the article: The Fathers’ Rights Movement is, of course, a social movement premised on the idea that children require the unnerving presence of their fathers in their lives. To this end, the eponymous fathers of the movement have lobbied governments across this land to vest fathers with more authority over the lives their sperm helps produce. This is truly bottom of the barrel. Seriously the presence of a father is "unnerving"? He wants to set policy based on his personal daddy issues. Edit…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:15 PM
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Real hate groups aren't illegal and the fed can't do much nor do I want them to. We have a right to form 'hate groups' or whatever people consider to be 'hate groups'. If the government stepped in they could very well ban anti feminism like they are trying to do in Europe.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:07 PM
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Good point.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:05 PM
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I disagree with your opinion and in terms of oppression Olympics they got it worse by a long shot. It's not likely that your parents or church are going to reject you for being male but being gay is a different matter. We can't generalize coming out and it's impact on people with a few anecdotes or media accounts. It's braver for some than it is for others. Gay men emerge in all communities including those that aren't at all progressive on the issue. Those men don't have it as easy as a gay pers…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:40 PM
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When I've gone to visit them, I am amazed at the general disdain that people have for gays. That bit of reality seems to be overlooked here. To assume gays have it easy just because they aren't being targeted by feminists is quite naive.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:36 PM
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white, hetro-sexual male, I feel we have LESS rights than anyone else these days Less attention doesn't equal less rights than anyone else. We are talking about men's rights because there are short falls on men not white rights. This isn't a white rights movement. Of course the attack on white men by feminists is legend but this is a organization dominated by white women who want things from white men. They are being targeted because of their position of relative status and power that's over gen…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:34 PM
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Do you think gay males have better rights? After all, you know the old stereotype of a gay male hanging out with his female friends. Of course not they are still fighting for their rights. I know you are asking the question in good faith but you ought to educate yourself on their issues more deeply if you even feel this is a possibility. They have less rights not more. But we know how female society has no sympathy for males, and they see all males as evil commiters of domestic violence, rapists…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:27 PM
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Men make about 16.4% of EEOC sexual harassment claims. http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/sexual_harassment.cfm
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:22 PM
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Rational? Who would join a Human Rights movement and start beefing about the oppression Olympics? You guys are so naive.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:02 PM
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We are in the oppression Olympics and if you don't know that you haven't been paying attention to how the game has been and is being played. Either we prove men are victims in substantial number or we get disqualified in the first round. We dug up the numbers and made it into the race, but we're the equivalent of the Jamaican Bob Sled Team up against Norway. If victim status wasn't worth anything you wouldn't see so many people chasing it. The ones who generally don't are the REAL VICTIMS who ar…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:00 PM
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I never read a Marxist text book but anyone with a basic knowledge of human history can draw some common sense conclusions about how the nationalist demagoguery by a majority party works. These parties exists around the world and they have a lot in common from the France's "National Front" to the UK's "British National Party". The same pattern holds true when we switch to their opposition who takes up the very people the Nationalist parties end up hating on. So .... We end up with Nationalist su…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:55 PM
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Let's forget that we're in MensRights (for the sake of argument) - pretend we're in a sub where racial equality is a more relevant subject. Racial equality isn't a relevant subject? I can see a nuetral stance but not one where we try to take down arguments being made by those fighting for racial equality. No where on A Voice For Men or Genderatic, or JudgyBitch, or ManWomenMyth, did I ever see an attack on racial politics. Other than that why would we be for gender equality and against racial eq…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:49 PM
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You mean the tax claim? The capital gains rate is 15% regular income tax is about 30%. Rich people pay more taxes but not relative to their income. "In fact, the share of total taxes paid by the top 1 percent is almost identical to the share of total income going to the top 1 percent. In 2010 the richest 1 percent took home 20.3 percent of all income, and—as noted above—paid 21.5 percent of all the taxes." - CFA This is before we start taking wealth into account or how lower income people end up…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:39 PM
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Yes I read the piece and I'm not here to advance "critical race theory" in fact I don't even know what it is. I haven't bothered to look it up nor do I care to. Being anti racist or sexist is IMO pretty straight forward common sense stuff. That said it's a piece on race in Men's Rights and I wonder what do you hope to gain by pushing in that direction. I get down voted for talking about race already because plenty want to put race and gender in the same boat. They are not. "But the idea that tho…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:25 PM
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"Democrats generally win the votes of fewer than four in 10 white men. But they win eight of 10 minority voters and a majority of women, who have been a majority of the national electorate since 1984, while white men have shrunk to a third, and are still shrinking." These electoral politics define the nation. I think Dems could benefit from a focus on men's issues but the rabid right isn't coming along nor are they worth trading in for their growing minority demographic. The Dems should worry ab…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:10 PM
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The 'conservative' in question was never named. It was their picture in a disguise that was put on the cover. The comment section contains racial hate along side antisemitism which sadly makes the SPLC's point for them. Their claim was that he attracts these people and they freaking showed up to prove it right. This is what I mean by the rabid right with their hate ruining the movement. I actually like RamzPaul and I know he's not Mr Racial sensitivity but it's cool. I don't think everyone need …
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:01 PM
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I'm on hate watch right here because these white nationalist who think they found a new home got another thing coming. A comment like that is ridiculous. It was wrong for them to put Avoiceformen and Avoiceformale students on their watch list, but there are actual hate groups who belong there and it's not a badge of honor. I have no doubt the SPLC has done some corrupt and scummy things but that don't make the hate groups they have named automatically worthy of respect if on substance they are i…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 04:21 PM
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They are talking about TERF's who hate trans people. The SRS community doesn't like TERF's.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 04:16 PM
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I hate arguments from the people whining about history months. Just because they aren't talking about you or the group you are in doesn't mean you need to whine about it. Pretty goddamn sure I learned about black and female historical figures in my history 101's but I guess that doesn't count because, again, patriarchy What? Are you suggesting that because you learned some history that no more learning would be of use? That's ridiculous. If you knew a great deal about both you wouldn't be saying…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 06:28 AM
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The sad thing is I never learned anything special about women's history during women's history month. The firsts aren't all that exciting. I wish they'd focus on women driven movements throughout history rather than acting like women pushing social change was only feminism. Two hundred and twenty-four years ago today, an angry mob of nearly 7,000 working women – armed with pitchforks, pikes and muskets – marched in the rain from Paris to Versailles in what was to be a pivotal event in the intens…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 04:01 AM
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It's kind of hard to call a return to respect for both sexes instead of just attacking one a radical idea. The resistance is radical and powerful. If they weren't more people would be attacking them. MRA's were the few willing to stick their neck out but once it catches on they won't retain control which is a good thing. The egalitarians need to rise even if they end up calling themselves feminists half the time. I think there will be Men's Rights organizations in the future but they'll never be…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 03:36 AM
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By constantly criticizing us, they indirectly give us greater influence. That's why they don't do it much if you haven't noticed. Men's Rights isn't feminism and it's never going to go where that movement did because men aren't going to adopt the requisite victim mentality that made it work. At best you might get respect and appreciation for men back to where it was after people finally feel confident enough to tell feminists to shut up with their man hating.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 03:30 AM
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I'm a fan of Thomas Sowell and although I can seem some connection between welfare policies and fatherless homes (like child support, alimony) I don't think it makes sense as a solution to problems facing black and brown boys nor will I have their obstacles reduced to a race baiting right wing talking point about blacks and welfare. To be honest I am not trying to be fair with right wingers on race because they are asses in the first place for instigating conflict over race issues rather than be…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 01:40 AM
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You were quoted and if you want to 'what about the whites' just because someone helps a more at risk population of boys then I'm not going to take that lying down. It's one thing to hope they do more in the future but another to downplay the effort because white kids aren't getting in on the action. I never said white farm kids are cut off, or victims. City kids have it better, culturally, and intellectually. Splitting hairs are we? They are disadvantaged by circumstances beyond their control as…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 10:41 PM
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Yeah you do need a lesson in advocating for Men and boys because you seem to think this is your place for some macho pissing contest to show how tough we are instead of a chance to care about people that others don't. If we can't do that WELL we're irrelevant. What man will want to post a story about being a victim where men act like dicks and minimize their suffering? What would be the point? This is that place where vulnerable men might come for need help. The fact you are insensitive to men g…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 10:13 PM
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Either way, you have no place in the MRM. You have no interest in Men's Rights, other than how they can be used to augment the Marxist/Homosexual Cause. Wow you have no fucking clue do you? You'll be the reason they'll have to start banning people. The right wing hate is a serious problem and no movement is served by being infected with it. You are downright homophobic and racist to boot. You need to be banned.
/r/MensRights02/03/14 10:01 PM
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You are attacking racial arguments end of story. Why is race the focus here? This isn't about class it's about race. Even if it were about class it wouldn't be about gender. The little that is about gender is being used as a reference to race. I don't think it's acceptable to play this "White Rights" game of figuring how to take down race issues so you can marginalize those on the margins. It screams of power consolidation by privileged people just like the rich insisting their oppressed by taxa…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 09:54 PM
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This piece is 90-95% about race. It's another post straight out of 'White Rights' conservative land. This is focused on attacking race while we are talking about gender. It spends very little time on feminism and a whole lot attacking anti racism. I don't recall there being a problem where men losing access to their children because of bias against whites. I don't recall a epidemic of false allegations being inspired by bias against whites. The reason make victims of sexual assault and domestic …
/r/MensRights02/03/14 08:43 PM
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I mean, if we stopped gender-policing men so rigidly, these problems would be fixed. Do you know how long feminists have been saying that? That's their first line of assault against 'what about the menz'. They figured their assault on the patriarchy will dismantle the male role. We say it's not working while complaining men are becoming 'too feminized'. I'm of the opinion that you should be free to choose your gender role but we needn't be against men taking on a masculine identity or even a hyp…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 06:43 PM
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I disagree with attacking this site. This is NOT a feminists site and I've seen some good stuff attacking the 'rape culture' perspective. The article is fine. What you newbies need to understand is we're not against every women complaining about men. That's their right and their business. Men can complain about women too. Let's face it some guys are cheaters, manipulators, and all around jerks and women want to talk trade stories just like us. Don't become some hypersensitive male version of a '…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 05:24 PM
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"Statistics from the International Journal of Eating Disorders suggests that 15% of gay or bisexual men have struggled with disordered eating habits throughout their lives, including binge eating, anorexia and bulimia. Of men who struggle with eating disorders, around 42% identify as gay or bisexual. And research shows that eating disorders are the most lethal of all psychiatric illnesses." This is pretty darn bad.
/r/MensRights02/03/14 03:21 AM
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During the first three decades of the last century males ages 15 to 24 were about 1.4 times as likely to kill themselves as were females of the same age. Beginning about 1930 this male-to-female suicide ratio began to grow and reached 2.0 in 1938, 3.0 in 1952, 4.0 in 1977, 5.0 in 1988 and peaked at 6.3 in 1993. In 2000 it was 5.8. So it hit pretty high prior to the 1960's
/r/MensRights02/03/14 02:59 AM
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Red baiting is lame. Yes feminists are Marxists inspired but we aren't a Marxists country. The basic ideals of equality embraced in the mainstream are a mark social progress not some vast conspiracy to destroy capitalism. The only place we see excesses are in feminism. In fact no other rights movement has a establishment of this kind, scope, or power and that lends itself to both the number of women, and men's interest in satisfying their needs which precedes feminism by eons. So no, I don't see…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 02:50 AM
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If it's self evident then why are people saying it? At no point did our society become pro rape in the last few years such that we needed to go around saying "don't rape". We don't do this for any other category of crime on this scale. Of course people know violence is bad, crime is bad, it's self evident that we ought not physically harm those around us let alone rape them. The fact it goes without saying but is being said loudly and repeatedly implies there is another agenda at work. That agen…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 02:39 AM
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Menstrual cycles are nothing new. Women have been managing that while working their butts off for tens of thousands of years. Bearing a child is serious business. I don't think that's a casual choice for most women but might be for some.
/r/MensRights02/03/14 02:20 AM
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""I'm pulled into a cell reeking of backside sweat and masturbation, a cheese-tinted funk. 'I'm Booga. Let's fuck,' says a squat man in urine-stained boxers, with WHITE TRASH tattooed on his torso...I can't believe my eyes when he drops his boxers and waggles his penis... He grabs me. We scuffle... When I feel his penis rub against my leg, my adrenalin kicks in so forcefully I experience a burst of strength and wriggle free." For Attwood, escaping rape, as well as "murder, or even having bones b…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 02:13 AM
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With on that 100%
/r/MensRights01/03/14 11:12 PM
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The people who tend to fight for peoples human rights tend to be liberal. Sometime the rights of those they fight for might be impinge on your own but I'll take that over nobody fighting for anyone's rights or Civil Liberties. You win some you lose some. They'll fight for a religious institution and for an atheist organization. They'll fight for a man's right to cartoon porn and a women who doesn't want to see it in her workplace. This isn't black and white stuff. I'd suggest leaving your politi…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 11:12 PM
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The root cause is our sentencing policies. The for profit prisons are milking a bad system and I would be surprised if they weren't pushing for longer sentences. We need to blame our legislators for these sentencing laws and insist on their repeal. Men are 93% of the prison population and they get sentences 60% longer than women. This is not tangentially a men's issue. THIS IS A MAJOR MEN'S ISSUE!
/r/MensRights01/03/14 09:29 PM
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If you are going to lose all respect for whoever supports feminism then you won't have many people you can respect. I respect the good work they do. These people fight for men and women that others could care less about. There was a over the top gender case they were into fighting for a while back but I forgot the details. That was the first time I thought ill of them but I'm happy they are around.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 09:28 PM
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It's back to the old disposable male protector role. I don't see the connection to disposablity. This is more of a presumption that men will abuse the power that comes with superior physical strength to have their way with women. I agree with the protector role because it's assumed men must protect women even from their own bad choices. If strength were the only factor then why are most rapes reported in studies due to intoxication? Either gender can exploit a severely drunken person because the…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 09:14 PM
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It's a sexist argument based on gender stereotypes that ironically (albeit predictably) is coming from proponents of gender equality who in their most radical form insist no should gender exists. The rational for the duplicity is that since gender exist along with resulting inequality they can take whatever biased position they like and are not to be questioned especially by men.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 09:07 PM
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It already happened so keep hope alive: "Prison Rape Elimination Act The Prison Rape Elimination Act (PREA) was passed in 2003 with unanimous support from both parties in Congress. The purpose of the act was to “provide for the analysis of the incidence and effects of prison rape in Federal, State, and local institutions and to provide information, resources, recommendations and funding to protect individuals from prison rape.” (Prison Rape Elimination Act, 2003). In addition to creating a manda…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 09:03 PM
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I take issue with the title: Men can stop rape. If we said "blacks" instead it would be racist. Although true why don't we call it SEXIST! There are female rapist and going by the CDC NISVS they would make about 40% of them except rape is defined by penetration which is also sexist. Let's fight SEXISM! I'd reserve the 'racist' accusation for the use of crime statistics to peg men as violent and bad people.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 08:56 PM
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Thanks you so much. I'm going to keep hope alive and do a better job of advocating for the underrepresented men in the movement.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 08:36 PM
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I love white men on the left. In fact I think I should randomly thank them for being so great. They could have come out like you and man how much harder would life be if they did. THANK YOU WHITE MEN ON THE LEFT! You guys are the greatest. May the sun keep shining on your face...but remember to wear sunscreen like George Carlin told you. If I come to the understanding that men's rights ever had more than 5% of men like you I would leave and proceed to expose it as a white nationalist group. So g…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 08:04 PM
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The right like feminism destroys everything it touches. If you guys have Men's Rights I think I gotta leave it alone. I won't do social justice with people who don't believe in it. You want to protect your status in a world of shifting power then do it without me. I just wanted to help those who needed help. I look for underdogs and back them up the best I can. Democrats do it too, even if they talk more than they can do. Some people on the Right do it, but they do more than they talk and don't …
/r/MensRights01/03/14 07:45 PM
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I'm not re-litigating the civil rights movement for a new generation of whites who feel threatened by poor minorities being helped. (add mocking tone generalization included)
/r/MensRights01/03/14 07:37 PM
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White not target Republicans for elimination from this forum because then we'd get rid of most of those threatened by helping racial minorities.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 07:34 PM
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It seems you don't realize we are engage in a movement to get stuff for certain a group of people...MEN. This is a biased effort (favoring one group) to correct bias in other people towards that group. It's not a simple statement of equality. Such activism would be a waste of time. People have been talking about equality since the enlightenment. The state fixes stuff. People who think the culture is just people doing stuff are ignoring all the levers of control which surround us that create desi…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 07:30 PM
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Are you people on the right even capable of self criticism? Do you not see anything wrong with the right? I question EVERYTHING! You don't seem to do that and perhaps that's why you ring wingers say such stupid and offensive things. It's like all the worst white people in America got together and formed a political party and suckered some unsuspecting decent white people into joining. This becomes a problem when the amorality and hypocrisy are plain for all to see. Your passionate support of the…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 06:35 PM
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Wow it took me a whole day to realize you were trying to be serious. I couldn't understand the point you were trying to make until now and I must say I really understand why I couldn't take you seriously.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 06:18 PM
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Why are you here? I am sure I'm a better MRA than you when it comes to producing salient points in a gender debate. I'm not the bitter man looking for validation in some phony victim status that's the male equivalent of the campus feminists. You won't catch me riffing on body image or some nonsense or how women don't treat me right. I'm talking about RIGHTS! Legal rights, government policy... official business. Your feelings are your problem. I don't do bullshit social justice. I won't waste my …
/r/MensRights01/03/14 05:20 PM
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Democracies ARE the tyranny of the majority. Pure democracies. I believe we live in a Republic whatever that means. I honestly never bothered to find out.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:56 PM
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That's becoming more so the case but the demographic patterns are pretty clear for things like mass incarceration. You can actually see it. Not only that these prisoners organize by race so I don't think racial ambiguity is more than a intellectual exercise in splitting hairs for people who haven't inherited the misfortune of some disadvantaged racial group. The point of raising the race issue is to point out disparities. If you are not on the personally losing side of that equation as a result …
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:51 PM
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I think you might be mistaking lack of concern for men of color for disagreement about other things. More like race relations in America as compared to the issues of men abroad. I see white men who think they can take down gender and race in one fell swoop so no one again will imply there are advantages attacked to their race or gender. These men are of track. Men's Rights isn't White Men's Rights. It's about gender and if they inject their mission creep this thing will fall apart as it swiftly …
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:49 PM
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What that statement you quoted is saying is that the only way for the government to address male issues is by disguising them as minority issues to sneak them past the zeitgeist. This says nothing about minority rights. Good point. My response would have been more tame on a normal day but I spent far to much time fighting the 'White Rights Brigade' masquerading under some nonexistent principal of not allocating resources to help particular groups while we're in a movement trying to do exactly th…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:19 PM
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I didn't realize I was the one who stupidly wrote that crap about color. Did they mean black people? Asians are people of color. Read some damn statistics before you make your arguments because this isn't WHITE RIGHTS. Fighting for that takes a willingness to make things up as you go along. Random pity pleas detached from the norms. It's the same act we see from feminists...'I am a women I am so oppressed because men look at me'. Men's Rights is backed by credible stats that people spent a long …
/r/MensRights01/03/14 03:25 PM
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This sub is not about OBAMA it's freaking Men' Rights. You take that culture of lying bullsh*t from right wing forums and drag it over here where we try to pride ourselves on truth and integrity. We don't need your dumb and dirt right wing politics here. We attack Obama ALL THE TIME. I attack him and I am a liberal. The Dear Colleague letter, The wage gap in the state of the union , the war on women, how long is that list! Then you come out and say that bullshit... You are a bunch of lying scum …
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:58 PM
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Another white rights a*hole who thinks this is some right wing circle jerk instead of a fight for Men's Rights. Go back to WND.com with that sht. Seriously are whites and Asians filling our prisons? Who the hell would compete for "At Risk" status? Your bull crap would destroy the movement. Shut up already and check obvious racial resentment.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:53 PM
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What part of disadvantaged bothers you? Do we really need to fight in order to keep Asians out of prison? Who competes to be on the list of people AT RISK for prison? You are Sooooo STUPID!
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:44 PM
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Don't conflate race and gender. Go to AvoiceforMen and you won't see a single article doing stupid sh*t like that. Spare us the white rights routine because this is MEN'S RIGHTS. You come in here after people have worked for years to get a foot hold and push your right wing black resenting bullshit and its sickening.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:43 PM
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That depends on how connected you are with the past. You can ignore it or you can recognize how you managed to end up in the place you are in. It's the difference between knowing history or assuming the world came out of a magic egg 10 seconds before you were born. History is the triumph and failures of our ancestors. Pride in that history is recognition of a legacy they passed down to us. They fought for a better future. WE ARE THAT FUTURE! I think it's shallow not to acknowledge one's ancestor…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:39 PM
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FYI: Democracies have to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority. That's what these minorities are fighting for.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:36 PM
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In that case you have no perspective on being in a severely disadvantaged ethnic group in America thus don't have a credible case to make for why ignoring those groups problems is somehow acceptable from a inside perspective. The problem is you have no skin in this game.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:34 PM
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You are pulling the exact same bullshit we see on Fox News. The 'Left Wing Media' is out to get us mentality. Oh the world is so unfair for you so you come to Men's Rights and try and tear it apart by imposing your political ideology on a agenda to encourage compassion for men and boys. We are anti feminists here, not anti liberal. You don't seem to understand that. This selfish desire to dominate the conversation with your side agendas is divisive. If those on the left really went after the rig…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:26 PM
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There is a serious conversation about false rape accusation going on and they are definitely the reason why. It's hard to see the changes but after years of reading the online conversation on gender they have had a huge impact. People are starting to take men's issues seriously and feminists have taken to policing themselves better than they used to. They have a reason to try and be fair.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:02 AM
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The WHITE RIGHTS BRIGADE needs to get out. If you want to start hating every time someone tries to target help at non white men nobody is going to respect the MRM. Seriously stop hate trolling. You are turning on men, breaking solidarity, and worse yet making a ass out of yourselves with poorly researched ignorant opinions on matters of race you clearly don't understand.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 03:56 AM
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The democratic party is the most diverse at 60% white versus the Republican party at 90% white. Which do you think racist would flock to considering our countries troubling history with white supremacy? This right wing black hating bull crap needs to stop.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 03:50 AM
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Jerks like you would have been calling MLK a racists I'm sure but no that doesn't really work. The white supremacists right wing black hating mob that has invaded Men's Rights needs to get out and take their hate elsewhere like WND.COM & Stormfront where I am sure they'll find lots of friends.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 03:48 AM
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Do you know the statistics on these racial disparities such that you would know why that would or would not be a good idea or are you jealous of people for being poor, incarcerated, and likely to be victims of or engage in violent crime. These aren't good things. They are singled out for being a high at risk population and the racial correlation is the best one. I know because I read papers on the subject did you? It's definitely a racial issue and I wish it really wasn't.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 03:46 AM
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Since when were minority boys not boys? It's not race bait to recognize a seriously at risk population and seek to do something about it. The real race bait is you calling it that and your right wing cronies who hate to see anything done for minorities. It's not unconstitutional and it's not even federally funded. It's a NGO based initiative. On top of that, it's solving a problem they created: so much welfare and support for mothers is leading poor women to kick the man out of the house because…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 03:43 AM
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You googled "Street Harassment" so you pushing false equivalence here. Unless men are being inundated with cat calls and women trying to pick them up you don't have an argument. We are supposed to be SMARTER and FAIRER than feminists not like the worst of them. Gender neutral exception: panhandlers. That's a fine point of rebuttal when they say you don't know how it feels.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 03:34 AM
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Yes blacks who talk about racism are always racists because some aggrieved white person says so. Am I oppressing you sir? Let me not speak of the dreaded black man for it might offend your delicate sensibilities.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:34 AM
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No I just made that up and it was pretty much a rant. If this is the kind of right wing group hostile to doing anything good for male minorities then I want no part of it. It's not even MRM as far as I'm concerned. Just another right wing echo chamber waiting to happen that will no doubt be inundated by racists looking for allies to stop the black threat. Next will be "why isn't black on white crime covered in the media!" or "How Obama hates white people". The fact this is being done for young m…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:33 AM
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Please quit generalizing using terms like "minorities", speak instead of the individual community you are assessing, there are cities that are majority black. I am not in the mood for this. This burden to educate is excessive. I read that black majority cities have crime rates equal to that of white majority cities. I didn't read the article though so I won't stand by that position since I don't know how they figured that out. Attacking the "religious base" that votes republican quite likely ali…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:25 AM
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The Left is most certainly not a safe place for me, and part of the reason is that left wingers, when approaching me, seem to assume that I'm on their side already. Could that be because they are usually the ones fighting for Native Rights and raising awareness about their issues? You are a Republican on principal which is fine by me but don't act like their base would lift a finger to help your people who are even worse off than my people in far too many ways. What's telling about your mindset …
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:20 AM
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This is the same reasoning used to deny men access to DV services. Many people on this sub see the program from that perspective. They aren't saying the program shouldn't exist, they are saying it should be expanded. You mean the fact the used one sided statistics to make it seem like men had no DV problems which we try and correct by showing how men's victimization has been covered up for 30 years? If your theoretical super neutral state is unrealistic in that we actually do use our brains to p…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:42 AM
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You are living in fantasy land. Gender neutral domestic violence advocacy would be run by women's organizations who'd focus resources on women. Men don't have a large network of organizations so they'd impart bias if not made to focus on men specifically. Neutral suicide prevention would not even focus on men or the unique danger it poses to their gender. Again the gender neutral mode wouldn't even make an issue of men being 4 times as likely to commit suicide because WE ALREADY HAVE IT! The sam…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:18 AM
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Thank you that really means a lot.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:05 AM
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The only way Obama can even dream about addressing this catastrophe is by adding race to the equation, our politically correct masters dare not question that. You're another one? I really had you guys pegged wrong. You think we never had racism in this country or the past 400 years white supremacy was just some left wing conspiracy they dreamed up so they could oppress men and boys. The political (white)right hates the ideas of helping minorities especially blacks and Hispanics who they view as …
/r/MensRights28/02/14 11:26 PM
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No you just want minorities to shut up when you shit on them by taking this anti social justice stance in the middle of a social justice movement for men. This is bullshit and you know it. You want to use the whole anti them stance to shutdown any effort targeting anyone group that doesn't include white men. That's not what I signed up for.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 10:35 PM
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False accusations? "The only racism here is coming from Obama."
/r/MensRights28/02/14 10:32 PM
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But please remember for white men, being left out of social conscience is nothing new Are you serious? Do you want to qualify that with a time frame or something? You're approaching Poe's Law territory.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 10:13 PM
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I know what a insignificant token effort this is and I'm not enthusiastic about it. It's the negative response here that bothers me. It's not neutral it's NEGATIVE and that's because of whom it seeks to help rather than who is behind the effort.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 09:34 PM
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No dude why don't you leave or shut up because you are making us look bad. You want people to keep quiet as you come up with dumb excuses not to be supportive of a program to help minority men. I know where you stand and that place is out to screw over me and mine. The social justice warrior who is your ally is exactly what the MRM needs to win debates within those circles because the dumb shit you come up with will be shredded before you can click submit.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 09:29 PM
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I'm sorry perhaps in my moment of dejected anger I left out 'SOME' but I've been defending aggressively white men for years. I love the white men on the left and the good ones on the right who have been at the forefront of liberating my people and many others from the oppression of unkind whites in this great country of ours. Happy? White men aren't the problem, but being anti minority thing isn't really coming from the minorities. Just sayin...
/r/MensRights28/02/14 09:27 PM
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Why do you have to trust the white house? If they are doing something to help MEN in anyway we should be supporting the effort. Instead a red line is drawn because the whites here are hostile to helping minorities. Calling people bigots because of that is offensive and you should apologize. Fuck that. I am not kissing your ass while you come up with excuses to dismiss efforts to help minority men because as a white men feel left out. Feel free to start going to prison on mass, commit an excessiv…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:51 PM
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It's worse than divided. It's generally speaking against efforts to help minority men.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:37 PM
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You act like people were being racist, but the fact is that a program only focusing on a certain race, rather than a group of people who need help is inherently racist itself. That would be racialist rather racist. You act like someone is trying to hurt whites by seeking to help blacks and Hispanics and that attitude is a problem. This is why blacks and Hispanics don't rarely vote for Republicans in the first place. This is why feminism is far more appealing to minority men even if feminists can…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:34 PM
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Why isn't anyone posting a link to the White house actually doing something for boys? Why no up votes? The attitudes here are the issue and if I end up commenting more it's because I am trying to challenge those attitudes.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:29 PM
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It's based on demographic realities facing minorities and it's executed by run through NGO's. You want to make it impossible to address the needs of poor minorities directly when they are the ones showing HUGE negative disparities and that to me is unacceptable. How are we going to lobby to make schools better boys if we take your approach? The implementation will end up favoring girls because schools have 80-90% female staff. Targeting a demographic is a necessary and effective way of addressin…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:28 PM
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If feels great living in the 13% of whites living in poverty and knowing that no one gives a damn about me. I talk about poor whites all the damn time. I talk about poor whites more than white people. I talk about poor people all the time and I go out of my way to be inclusive. You know how the whites here respond to blacks getting help? OBAMA PLAN EXCLUDES WHITES! Fuck that shit. I see the same reflexive racial animus against PoC as usual from a white supremacists culture that has existed longe…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:58 PM
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Welcome to my inner social justice warrior. That's what you get when I see whites turn on blacks and Hispanics for the umpteenth time. This is right out of the Right Wing 90% white approach to reality and that's why people end up becoming Social Justice Warriors in the first place to call out how wrong that bullshit is. Do you not understand what's going on? Do you not realize white Asians vote for Obama along with Blacks? They are sick of the racists shit from whites on the right. It take us ve…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:38 PM
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Discrimination is only going to continue to divide us between whites/blacks/asians/hispanics. Discrimination is only going to breed more hatred and anger. Whites have been starting this shit and keeping it going for SEVERAL HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS! You sit here and play dumb and it's bull shit. All inclusive doesn't change ANYTHING! Whites will then turn around and target BLACKS for getting some and use that to get elected. I seen this shit going on my whole life in politics. Reagan coined 'welfar…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:36 PM
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The 70% are alienated by helping the other race even when they get help. Did you see what happened with welfare? Healthcare? In fact they took the stance of not helping anyone because blacks MAY benefit. The entire conversation on the ills of handouts becomes a black bashing hate fest in right wing forums despite whites taking most of the overall benefits. You are being incredibly naive or intentionally misleading.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:29 PM
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It's segregation based on race. Thurgood Marshall would not approve. I think you mean Clarence Thomas. This right wing revisionist history act is really wearing thin. There is no appeasing whites. They are going to hate and the best thing to do is challenge their hate when it happens. Learn American history because you seem to have no idea what's going on in our culture.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:27 PM
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Creating race based or gender based programs don't reduce divisions. You know very little American history. We have been using targeted programs for a long time and they did break down divisions because in order to get racist/sexist white men to let others in they had to target other groups with initiatives to encourage inclusion and protect those who were included until the culture changed. That's our history like it or not. Things weren't always rosy and they aren't right now. One country -> o…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:23 PM
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TLDR; POC issue -> nobody gives a shit, everything continues as usual and it's just race baiting for votes. Everybody issue -> "Wait, you mean unlike my kid who gets his pot charges dropped there are POC boys that go to jail for simple pot possession? That's messed up we should change this." Both are PoC issues and no that everybody frame would not make then give a shit unless their kids were going to jail for possession. It has to actually hurt EVERYBODY equally or at least enough that the blac…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:14 PM
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It's helping black and brown people that's effectively getting down voted and next time I see this it won't be pretty. I see more compassion for men in India here than I do for black men in America and that's sick.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:11 PM
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The only thing is it would have to work internationally. The disparities (less than 75%) exists in places like UK and Australia as well. Since all had the Duluth model influence their policy it seems possible.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 11:16 AM
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There is nothing wrong with leaving these cage fighting to other people. I really see the MRM as clearing the way for egalitarians. Feminism really put a lot of effort into gender analysis and it would be a shame to see that all go to waste. It needs to evolve more than anything else but to do that they must purge their bias. A committed and effective opponent demanding they do so will help that happen.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 10:59 AM
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I see you have not paid attention to the law. The law forces men to take on paternity even when they are proven to not be the father of the child. That's the MEN"S RIGHTS in caps issue. Focus on that instead of defending feminists or against anti feminists. We don't discuss those laws enough so I was happy to see the post bring it up. It was an opportunity to engage a REAL RIGHTS ISSUE! Instead, we got ....
/r/MensRights28/02/14 10:51 AM
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Damn it! Well there goes the chip on my shoulder.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 10:47 AM
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Is that really where we are. The white man gets to label blacks racists for helping blacks so I guess Martin Luther King was a racist too right? I'm not going to defend Obama on his support of wrong headed feminists agendas but to call him a racists... Nah that's your problem. I seen your kind too many times. Stop treating minorities men as a threat to whites but for sure whites are a threat to minorities. You are fucking things up with this cowardly bullshit. Black and brown men are filling the…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 10:36 AM
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When you create law or programs for only certain identities you create social division between the demographic you're trying to help and everyone else. Where was that shit during Jim Crow? I'm serious. Oh yeah we had to wait for that liberal activist Warren Court to do something about it. Note the LIBERAL because that implies willingness to bring change. Completely counterproductive unless you want to stir up shit for an election in 9 months. Conservatives hate day and night for 5 years and they…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 10:23 AM
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I will not condone a system in the US that favors one miserable group over another miserable group, even if said implementation does so to allegedly "make up" for a greater/lesser disparity. It ultimately does more harm than good. That's your first mistake. The groups are not equally miserable and favoring the area of most pressing need for attention is common sense. You don't have a person with a knife in his gut waiting for someone with who needs a splinter removed. Principals utterly detached…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 09:53 AM
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Do you even see what's going on with the program? It's not government funded. He's just gathering organizations together to start PRIVATE initiative because there is on way a Republican dominated congress with a 90% white base would pass a dime to help black and brown men because it would be political suicide in a openly racist party with a white supremacists culture. I am really getting fed up with this reflexive hostility towards helping minority men and the don't leave the white man crap has …
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:45 AM
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Are you freaking kidding me? Race isn't gender. Do you really think people of color want to take some noble stand for the same white people who see a program like this and get mad at it? They aren't that stupid. The principals you speak of are the same ones held by the racists who'd use a program like this that Obama has it in for the whites and he's a Kenyan Muslim Anti Christ communist radical. This would be the same people who get elected by attacking black and brown people all the time. No..…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 06:54 AM
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Making it class focused makes sense. The poor outcomes from single parents is highly dependent on that parents class and education so you wouldn't draw the line there. If you did low income poorly educated single parents you'd be on track. The fact is these ethnic groups have these massive disparities and they are so large that it makes sense to focus on their communities which happen to have the highest concentrations of poor people in the nation. I read the stats, that's what makes their circu…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 06:39 AM
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No it leads to white racial resentment that's there anyway. You act like this isn't constantly going on in our culture especially on the right. You see a group suffering unbelievable disparities but you want to circle the wagons to keep people from helping them. This shit needs to stop. I'm fine with being pro white but when you become anti minority I have a serious problem with that. These groups are facing double the poverty whites and 3-6 times the rates of incarceration. It makes sense to fo…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 06:25 AM
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This hostile to minorities conservative outlook is something I take serious issue with. You people need to take yourselves back over to r/whiterights. They'll eat up up over there but it's not for here. You aren't going to find unity with minority men by getting mad at a plan to help under performing minority men. Asian men on average actually out earn white men. They'll be ok.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 06:14 AM
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Jessica Valenti is busy trying to protect her privilege. Know projection when you see it fellas. What they were saying about the MRM was really about them. These media darlings know their days are numbered if the MRM catches on because they have far too much documented misandry in their writing to ever let misandry become a thing.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:04 AM
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Yeah the whole genital obsession really through me off. I mean would we respect a man wearing a "My Penis My rules" T-shirt?
/r/MensRights28/02/14 03:56 AM
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Another example of feminism letting minority boys down not that I think such a policy would be fair. The point is they rig the game for themselves and they'll privilege white women over black and brown men by insisting gender trump: race, class, or any other measure of 'oppression' in their social justice lexicon. These self serving antics need to be seen for what they are and it's certainly not helping those most in need. I mean I'd would much prefer if they gave $100 for completion to any chil…
/r/MensRights27/02/14 06:10 PM
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Welcome to the Duluth model. I suggest you tell your teacher if she ever slaps you that she'll find herself in the back of a squad car because we Americans believe in Equal Protection Under the law rather than outdated discredited gender theories from second wave feminists. Women who defend violent women are enabling abuse and they need to be called on it. You should go back with documentation about the reality of female on male abuse and how severe it becomes. It also extends to children. The c…
/r/MensRights27/02/14 03:15 PM
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We still have to deal with the sexist research guidelines in VAWA. edit: 1994 VAWA (Sec. 40291) directs the Attorney General to develop a research agenda to increase the understanding and control of violence against women paid for through the National Institute of Justice research funds 2000 VAWA (Sec. 1404) directs the Attorney General to develop a research agenda to prevent or reduce violence against women and such sums as necessary are authorized to carry out this section and submit a report …
/r/MensRights27/02/14 02:46 PM
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Yes because honestly fuck what manbooz thinks. Why would you let your dedicated opposition control you? He's not a ally nor is he trying to help. He hates MRA's and everything they stand for. He doesn't care for Men's Rights, he cares for his page hits and how much love he can get from feminists who need white knights to defend their 'Fempire'. We are in a fight with people who don't want our perspective to even exists and your concern is offending them? Get real. The quote unsourced and all sho…
/r/MensRights27/02/14 02:27 PM
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It's indicative of the law in many states which is it's very important. Even if we were to use it as a straw feminists argument I assure you that if we challenged these laws we'd have some feminists saying something to that effect. This is not the first time I'd seen this text. Stop trying to protect feminism. That's NOT what this sub is for. It's called MEN'S RIGHTS! Protecting feminism's reputation is not MEN'S RIGHTS! Spare us the white knighting while we are fighting for MEN'S RIGHTS! There …
/r/MensRights27/02/14 02:22 PM
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Do you understand that this is what state law looks like? This is what the law in France looks like? Effectively these principals are codified into law even if the justification for the law was less controversial, such as family unity. We are fighting for MEN'S RIGHTS! Not the approval of feminists or some desire to be as fair as possible to those who fight against Men's Rights. Fighting twisted views of feminism isn't what this is about and for the record feminism is pretty twisted. That' what …
/r/MensRights27/02/14 02:13 PM
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I saw this rationalization before but that's hardly a source. More important than a source in this instance is that it gets the conversation going on the topic. France makes it illegal for men to test the paternity of their children so the issue is very serious.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 02:05 PM
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The self serving rationalization hamster STRIKES AGAIN! This time with 50% more entitlement! We need to get those laws changed and it would be nice if someone in the know had a list of every state that assigned men child support obligations by default for every child born within the marriage. ANY court ordered child support should require mandatory paternity testing. I think pushing against these laws would really expose the 'in your face' injustice men are up against in our family court system.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 02:02 PM
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Here is a good article just published in The Atlantic: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/02/why-dads-matter/283956/
/r/MensRights26/02/14 10:27 PM
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If they are convinced anti feminism is a problem then why are they asking this question here? Feminists don't do well on equality, so many pro equality men's organizations end up rejecting a great many feminists perspectives. If that makes them anti feminists so be it. It's impractical to assume a pro male organization could be truly effective while presuming 'men are the problem'.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:27 PM
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so I thought you guys could just maybe say some really mean things to me (like usual) so I can be pushed over the edge and stop being such a pussy and do this. We say unpleasant things about feminists which would pretty much be the truth about feminists. The intent isn't to be mean even though the anger is fully justified by their indifference towards male suffering.For example your suffering for example is at the margins of their activism because you are male. Although they might join you in tr…
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:09 PM
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"Physical violence and rape were associated with mental health problems, and constitute serious public health problems. Physical violence and sexual abuse are probably more important for women’s health, because women are exposed to a heavier burden of violence and abuse than are men. " Considering men are more likely to be victims of violence in all circumstances except at the hands of their romantic partner I don't see they could justify this conclusion. The study implies men have a heavier bur…
/r/MensRights26/02/14 04:58 PM
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Get piss drunk and blame your friends for not policing your sexual behavior. That's bullshit. It's one thing to ask for help but it's another to shift all blame off drunkards for their own behavior. We should talk more about excessive drinking less about bystander responsibility since it's the drinkers responsibility that matters most. When it comes to bystanders the focus should be on women and not men. Expecting men to pick fights to save women is downright dangerous. That doorman violently as…
/r/MensRights24/02/14 06:53 PM
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I found that stat a while ago but I haven't been able to any of the studies explaining it because their behind a pay wall.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 06:28 PM
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From the article: When Dent was arrested, he said he was angry about the ratio of men to women that had been convicted of child sex offences and had amassed the messages to see how far she would go.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 10:29 PM
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Considering how rare homicide is relative to the population I don't see why we need to make anything of it. We have about 15,000 murders and 40,000 suicides per year. I think it would make more sense to focus on suicide prevention. In both cases around 80% of victims are male.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 02:57 PM
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That rape redefinition still excludes men 'forced to penetrate'. Thus excluding most male victims of forces sex. Basically the letter is pretty flawed and I'd much rather you use a [study on male victims of sexual assault on campus]() rare as they are. This is one of the best I've seen including males from Geneseo in Upstate NY: About 15% of women and 8% of men in our Geneseo sample were severely sexual assaulted (i.e., attempted or completed rape), which is similar to rates reported by the NIJ …
/r/MensRights21/02/14 11:55 AM
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I see a problem from the top of the graphic: "40% of rapist outside of prison are women" In fact surveys on prison sexual abuse show 2-4 times as many cases from female prisons as they do in male prisons. Truth be told prison sexual abuse isn't a primarily a male issue but don't talk about it much because we have this stereotype in our heads. The issue of female on female sexual abuse in prison really blows up the feminists perspective on sexual violence. One of many studies demonstrating this: …
/r/MensRights21/02/14 11:44 AM
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We can celebrate the fact men were added to the victim pool without having their victimization massively under counted relative to women. This is the FIRST time I have seen this happen.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 11:56 PM
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This blew my mind: Don’t allow psychological rape or commit it yourself. Psychological rape consists of verbal harassment, whistles, kissing noises, heavy breathing, sly comments or stares. These are all assaults on any woman’s sense of well-being. The underlying intention is to intimidate the woman. They are power plays couched in the language of sex.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 11:32 PM
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They have a great site covering domestic violence against men in Australia: http://www.oneinthree.com.au/ That article was pile of steaming sexist fear-mongering garbage but the majority of the comments rightly rejected that nonsense. If people knew the actual stats I'm sure it would be a overwhelming rejection of the arguments being made.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 03:22 PM
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I think the comments under the original article were a pretty in your face rebuttal. Nice to see people speaking out via face book. People are growing more courageous everyday. We have a sense of what justice is and today's feminism ain't it.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 02:46 PM
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I'm not too keen on guilt by association.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 02:35 PM
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You act like we're not doing anti feminism here and we aren't to get angry at feminists trying to malign us for rejecting their views on gender. The SRS types are exactly who we are debating directly or indirectly. As a liberal I can sympathize with them but I diverge at gender. I really can't stand these feminists white women who are effectively in the same social class as white men wish to isolate themselves from white men so they can play victim alongside minorities by scapegoating the very m…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 02:29 PM
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Skin color isn't what makes race an issue for me but rather the huge disparities in life outcomes produced by a system that exploits the indifference the majority feels towards my people. This would be just as true if I were in a marginalized white community as if I were in a black one but the racial angle overlaps with class in such a way that it's much easier to provide evidence of vast disparities in racial terms.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 02:16 PM
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We should do more to cover issues facing minority men than we have been doing. Not only do the white men who dominate the MRM need the cover but minority men also need attention for their issues. I recently posted a link to an article where WND.com got kicked off of Google ads for their 670 articles about 'black mobs' but I didn't realize Gawker was on the ban list when it comes to links. Racists are indeed a problem but they tend not to make themselves known in these forums. Another big problem…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 02:02 PM
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It was the gays not the queers but I'm sure they wont like them either when they find out what they are, then again that assumes that particular queer has finally figured it out.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 01:53 PM
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Men need to stand up for themselves. It's that simple truth that the MRM needs to put out front.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 01:35 PM
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The backlash they started against the article actually got a debate going. I think that's why they avoid challenging the MRM directly. The truth is on our side and they really don't know how to deal if they can't simply manipulate people into agreeing with them. Their once unimpeachable victim status has transformed into something more like an abusive girlfriend slapping their kneeling boyfriend on the street.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 01:32 PM
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There were a group of radicals who hijacked the movement sort of like what's happening to the Republican party right now. These women were real man haters and their ideology laid the foundation for what we see today. The process is pretty simple. Find something you don't like about a group. Use that negative trait to define a group pathology. Proceed to advance a negative stereotype of that group with your movement as the remedy to their pathology. Rinse, wash, repeat. When you look back at the …
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:49 AM
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The male privilege versus female privilege debate is an old one but we have to imagine a whole new paradigm for gender that recognizes forms of power that don't show up in relations between other groups.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:31 AM
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The feminists and their propaganda are the problem. The perpetrators and victims matter in this conversation because if we don't mention female perpetrators they'll assume it's always men. Why would they do that? Because that's what feminists told them.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:28 AM
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Well that's because racism/sexism do have different values based on who the parties are but you can't set a rule for the whole society or world that automatically picks your favorite victim. That determination is context dependent. Minorities in the society are not always powerless. Majorities are not always powerful. People from powerful social groups are sometimes put in positions where thy can be dominated by less powerful groups. That needs to be recognized but not exploited to allow the dom…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:25 AM
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That would suck because I just posted a link from there. I see nothing to that effect on the side bar.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:21 AM
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Misandry isn't institutionalized, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Of course it is and that's why we have a Men's Rights Movement. Do you think we were just talking about our feelings? Of course not there are actual public policies and laws that hurt men because they assume men are bad people. It's deeply institutionalized right down to the 60% disparity in sentencing between the sexes.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:20 AM
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What matters more than the gender of a political leader is the power of the lobbies placing demands on them and in that the women's lobby is vastly more dominant than the men's lobby. You are letting the numbers confuse you. Power isn't in the gender of the leader or we wouldn't be desperately seeking attention for men's issues right now.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 04:15 AM
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It's the whole, "discrimination equals prejudice plus power" mantra utilized to alleviate any personal responsibility for their actions. No that was actually meant to help real oppressed minorities rather than well to do liberal white women who desire to take on a life long role of professional victim. She is effectively sabotaging social justice for the rest of them without even knowing it by setting the victim/oppression threshold incredibly low. The biggest problem is she doesn't have anythin…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 03:50 AM
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Word? I thought it was the same thing... my bad. Since you are a sociology major would you at least agree that feminists ideology dominates sociology? Either way I'm happy your one of them. Can't change too much from the side lines.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 03:45 AM
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This is bullshit from the bullshit social justice crowd who can't think deep enough to see past their self serving approach to a cause that supposed to put those who are worst off in the society first rather than the needs of over privileged college students looking to place themselves in the role of oppressed.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 03:43 AM
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Women control 85% of consumer spending = Economic Power Women make up 54% of the electorate = Political Power There are 200 Women Studies Departments on campuses across the country whose gender ideology dominates the social science = Institutional Power Any questions?
/r/MensRights19/02/14 03:39 AM
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I'm not going to call out the right as the problem but there are a lot of those who identify the right who are seriously racists. Often links to right wing sites have comment sections chuck full of anti black hate like I've seen no where else with lots of up votes and ZERO down votes. I think we can at least agree that should be condemned and also recognize that when we use the analogy of blacks to explain why the use of statistics is to incite hatred towards some group we should understand this…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 03:15 AM
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I just don't get how the world has come to all of this. FEMINISM! You'll find the whole man hating guide book right there.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 01:07 AM
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I would say that you guys were a bit childish, but let's be honest, you were only as childish as they were. Unfortunately, I doubt having the tables turned on them would cause any of them to see the error in their assumptions. Who cut yours off? No they weren't being immature. Unlike the men of the prior generation who created these entitled monster women they at least made an effort to stand up for themselves before tucking their tale between their legs. The thing is they should never back down…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 01:05 AM
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Where is the wall of text? Seriously I'd rather not have to look up the topics you were discussing. Are we wrong? Only for being apologetic in the first place. The men should have stuck together and stood up for themselves or better yet walked right out the class and filed a complaint of hostile environment inducing gender hate with the Tittle IX coordinator.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 01:01 AM
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The bigger problem is other men backing them up.
/r/MensRights18/02/14 06:05 PM
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The harder I try to defend feminism the more it comes back to haunt me. They have embedded far too much gender bias in their narratives to simply be reformed. We need wholesale rejection of what people have been told by feminists for decades such that the may re-imagined gender using the real world instead of the one based on misleading statistics and outdated gender stereotypes. Simply put today's feminism is regressive and to go forward we have to abandon most of it's gender analysis. The only…
/r/MensRights18/02/14 05:34 PM
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Some movements have to end and at the very least their radical phase must end. We still aren't campaigning loudly for the abolition of slavery in America because that major problem has been for the most part resolved. When discrimination is state sanctioned it's a major issue, when it's not then it's far less of an issue. Men are now fighting state sanctioned discrimination while women are not. That means men's issues at the moment are more serious than women's (using that simple test).
/r/MensRights18/02/14 05:31 PM
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I think you confuse voicing anger with promoting hate. Sometimes they are the same thing but more often they are not. A simple test for social justice purposes is to ask whether or not the people you are angry with did something to you. The next question that isn't asked enough is: Are they acting as a group or as individuals? The second question speaks to whether or not the individual is acting on behalf of the group which can be seen from whether or not the group supports that persons actions.…
/r/MensRights18/02/14 09:12 AM
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This young man is no doubt the victim of a profound injustice and it's a clear example of the kind of disciplinary board misconduct we've been complaining about. The question is are we advancing an alternative? Is it written down some where or a link we could reference? Just sayin... I found a very interesting article here after looking at the papers tweets. It seems the school is making an effort to moderate their social justice warriors by teaching them tolerance for dissent. This is promising…
/r/MensRights18/02/14 08:44 AM
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Feminist have an ideological agenda that isn't compatible with the science. It's just like a science versus religion thing but with the religious being dogmatic creationist who won't even entertain ideas contrary to their belief system. You must understand that they feel science is an extent ion of the patriarchal systems of oppression. How they 'feel' about it can end up mattering more than the facts.
/r/MensRights17/02/14 05:40 PM
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Feministing reviews a book on science of sex: "She seeks more rigorously designed experiments, more nuanced interpretations of facts, and sounder empirical conclusions. Richardson seeks, in short, to make science more Scientific. But just as scientific researchers need to be vigilant about the distorting influence of gender beliefs, so we as feminists must be vigilant to the distorting influence of science. If science remains on a pedestal as the ultimate arbiter of our beliefs, those who do not…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 04:05 PM
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Maybe I just appeared too casual. Never that. We need to stop internalizing this misandry like it's something normal we ought to expect. It's our right to be outraged and just because some greedy people in the media think they can make a dollar out of fear mongering doesn't mean half the human population has to pay for it by being made the target of gender profiling.
/r/MensRights17/02/14 03:48 AM
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It's like urban and thug, but for misandry. Urban and thug are code for BLACK. That's not even close to a sensible comparison and it suggests some other hang ups I'm not going to get into but it's obvious their slang wasn't manufactured by activists seeking to elevate their victim status.
/r/MensRights17/02/14 02:42 AM
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A man created Facebook and women loved it. So... I think we need to get away from the sexist myths feminists used to sell the inclusion of women and actually regard them as regular people with no magic powers of perception.
/r/MensRights17/02/14 02:33 AM
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Oh please. You are playing sucker for women because as a man you are raised to pander to women. There is little discussion of minorities in tech even though their numbers are even lower because ethnic groups don't have the powerful lobbying capabilities of high powered white dominated feminism. We are talking about those who are already privileged dividing up the sweet job pie. Diversity matters when we're talking about diverse backgrounds. If a man and women grow up in the same place and go to …
/r/MensRights17/02/14 02:31 AM
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The fact is none of us single handily built this nation but just about every group of people here in some way contributed to it. The way you made your case is pretty disrespectful. Even if all women did was give birth to the men that did these things they of something worthy of respect. The problem with what feminist are doing is they are using women's own career preferences as evidence of male oppression. It forces men to prove they aren't in fact driving women away from tech by making tech eve…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 02:21 AM
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I think we underestimate the impact that violent/abusive mothers have had on the lives of both men and women. We talk about abusive men a lot and then we forget mom. Mothers are the predominant abusers of children but their abuse get's the least attention because the people talking about abuse tend to be women's groups. When a man has negative views about women we are taught to blame his father as if the mother being abusive herself would have nothing to do with it.
/r/MensRights17/02/14 01:35 AM
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Sounds like you need a truly feminine women capable of nurturing.
/r/MensRights16/02/14 04:58 PM
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The thing is whites and white supremacist/nationalist in particular are trying to push the whole minorities are racist thing as a way to attack them for complaining about racism. I don't think you respect the wave of hate minorities have to face down due to the politics of America. If don't think anti white racism is a threat to whites especially when the main people employing these anti white (male) attacks are whites themselves. I think the anti white male issue is far more substantive because…
/r/MensRights16/02/14 03:09 AM
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It was an opening for discussion and I suppose I could have started it with a rant. The thing is I'm usually busy trying not to upset the white men in the movement so I tend to hold my tongue. The fact is many links here go to articles on conservative sites where at times 90% of the comments are devoted to being anti black. That same sentiment was shared by the man who shot this young black man. I'm still unsure about how to engage this issue in a anti PC forum struggling against broken leftist …
/r/MensRights16/02/14 02:06 AM
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Feminism and it's core are dominated by the views of extremist who've been scientifically proven wrong but are still insisting their theories hold water. Their extremist are the mainstream and they dominate the activists arm of the movement.
/r/MensRights16/02/14 01:58 AM
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Tell me why doesn't the mother have to contribute to the child's welfare? She has to have a place to live so she may live with her child. She must eat so she may by food and share it with the child. If you are so concerned with having more of that man's money then make sure THE CHILD LIVES WITH THE MAN!
/r/MensRights16/02/14 01:56 AM
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I hope people understand that once a institution becomes feminist dominated reason, truth, integrity go right out the window. Their ideological agenda trumps all else.
/r/MensRights16/02/14 12:41 AM
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The feminist you know are being fed propaganda from other feminist busy trying to protect their undeserved place of privilege. I see the same sort of campaign of demonization being used against black feminist threatening white women's hegemony over the movement. That joke called intersectionality has been used more to cover the asses of white feminist than it has empower those on the margins. On top of that minority men are effectively being marginalized by white women who declared them privileg…
/r/MensRights15/02/14 05:57 PM
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' Mens rights can not be anti-feminism and want equality. Why because feminist say so? I'm sorry but after spending my whole life listening to these obnoxious controlling white women bitch about men and their spineless male sycophants who throw their sons under the bus to impress these bigots I'm pretty damn sure it's feminism that needs to change for it to be about equality. I'm sure the white social justice league is really proud how it duped everyone into making a bunch of spoiled white coeds…
/r/MensRights15/02/14 05:49 PM
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Even by the academic definition a moderator has power of over those they are moderating so they can be racist/sexist.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 05:31 PM
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Great article. Most important point: despite men being 54% of victims there are 12 MST (military sexual trauma) inpatient VA programs for women and only 1 shared with men in our 86% male armed forces.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 04:52 PM
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Mass Incarceration. Makes no sense for America to have 724 prisoners per 100,000 when Canada, Mexico, Europe all have less than 200 per 100,000. We have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of it's prisoners. This needs to change.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 02:24 PM
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To the contrary, it suggests they would be generally capable of a lot more if historical precedent and casual sexism weren't still working against them. So I hope that's not what you were implying thoughI'mprettysureitis. I disagree. I think that right now would be more applicable to boys than girls because we've been over investing in girls for decades while ignoring boys. Historic context is now one where feminism has dominated the social justice gender narrative for about half a century. When…
/r/MensRights15/02/14 01:53 AM
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Do you really need a source for a white person calling out white males? http://www.newstatesman.com/media-mole/2014/02/last-theres-list-rich-white-men-gq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tristan-bridges/a-review-of-angry-white-m_b_4611216.html
/r/MensRights15/02/14 12:41 AM
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I'm saying it because I'd like people to call out whites who are calling other whites for being white. All this anti white sentiment get's pushed by whites but is blamed on non whites. If the only people who ever called out whites were non whites you wouldn't here very much of it. Just sayin...
/r/MensRights15/02/14 12:32 AM
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Let me get this straight. So if a black women goes after white men the same way white women do all the time right out in the open, on TV, on the radio, in the press, then she's a racists. If white women are doing this what do you call them? I see more attacks on white men from white people male and female than I ever see from minorities. I'm just saying you need to be prepared to call white women out on their anti white male racism if she qualifies as a racist.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 04:59 PM
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Practically speaking racism against whites isn't a serious problem. Sexism against men is so try focusing on that or risk exposing yourself to a relevant privilege check. Statistically the differences between the ethnic groups and the sexes are huge. In fact they are so huge that it's obvious that the source of feminism's power came from the inclusion of white women as a victim class. Whites are a overwhelmingly dominant group in terms of population, wealth, power, and all kinds of metrics. The …
/r/MensRights14/02/14 04:56 PM
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Because the power and scope of feminism sexism against men is very much structural in nature. They have organized systemic discrimination on so many levels we have a hard time keeping up with it. This is a real fight for rights against hate filled bigots with enormous influence. Not only can they be sexist against men, they also made sure that the society would also be.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 04:45 PM
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This is what women trying to protect their privilege looks like. You can see white feminists pulling the same crap when debating Women of Color who call out their white privilege in the same way one might male privilege. These women know they are morally playing a losing hand. The only thing protecting them is raw power and intimidation. Moral consistency goes out the window when others demand they live up to the same made up value system they're pushing on white men.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 04:35 PM
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In fact, they were so feminist they operated under the progressive stack which openly states that white males should speak last. In which case white men should have told white women they can speak second to last. I really would like to see white men stand up for themselves by not taking crap like this from white women. Instead I usually see frustrated white men lashing out at minorities who have little impact on their lives. A effective approach would be to give white women the white male treatm…
/r/MensRights12/02/14 06:10 PM
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Things have to get really bad before people wake up and we need to be ready when they do. It's already starting. If you're burned out then take care of yourself first. You did something courageous and it cost you a lot which is more than most men can say. I'm sure abolitionist in the 1700's knew they weren't on a short road to victory but they kept fighting. We have to do the same. It's hard for men to stand up to abusive women but at some point we're going to have to expose them for being just …
/r/MensRights12/02/14 05:56 PM
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They don't have to care about being ridiculous when the public doesn't know the truth. Men have failed to effectively stand up for themselves for decades and I'm not the least bit surprised women's activists have become complacent with advancing false or misleading stats as a result.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 12:33 AM
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For one that assertion needs citations. We shouldn't take your word for it because we've already seen how effectively women's activists have employed emotional propagandistic arguments to paint men as greedy selfish sex abusing monsters. Also you act as if the court assigning child support payments at some rate or another is the fault of men rather than the very system men are complaining about where an oppressive collection system is backed by federal incentives. Please cite your facts and don'…
/r/MensRights12/02/14 12:20 AM
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Call me idealistic but I don't think men should have to be 'smart' in order to evade the consequences brought on by laws meant that enslave men for the benefit of women. Those laws should not be driving men into poverty and the women doesn't have to be 'crazy' for that to happen. This stuff isn't just apart of being a man. It's systematic gender bias playing out in a way that hurts lots of people. You are one of the many men struggling with developing equal compassion for men. You were raised to…
/r/MensRights12/02/14 12:14 AM
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People who have no compassion for men don't deserve our respect and men ought let them know it.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 12:12 AM
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A simple guide is hard especially when feminists aren't willing to debate us long enough to ferret out the most effective arguments. Our victories aren't revealed by direct engagement so I think the best thing would be for the feminists or former feminists among us to work out the most effective arguments from their perspective. When we're engaging non feminists the bar is a lot lower but it's hard to overcome the natural skepticism that comes with hearing stats or information that suggest a rea…
/r/MensRights12/02/14 12:11 AM
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The man hating isn't a undertone. This the main tone feminists use to address men and they've been speaking that's way since women's liberation back in the 70's. Their anti male language is even worse than the rights hostility towards open homosexuality. It's one thing to see certain sexual acts as sinful and another to declare half the population a standing threat to the other half which must be reprogrammed away from their evil ways. The rights efforts to change gay behavior comes off as tame …
/r/MensRights11/02/14 11:06 PM
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The fact men and boys can't say no to women who purposely manufacture elaborate victim identities and as a result these males end up endorsing whatever solution they demand no matter how unfair it is to themselves or other men is what I'm talking about. They have to show compassion for themselves and each other that is at least equal to what they provide for women. After nurturing entitlement in women for so long, learning the power of 'NO' wouldn't be easy but it's something they need to do. Th…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 11:00 PM
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If conservatives go out of their way to bash liberals in a conversation about feminism then that's what you're going to get. We can agree to disagree on many things but we ought to remain focused on feminism rather than using it's excesses as a way to discredit all leftist ideals. The fact is social justice emerged to deal with real social injustice. These movements accomplished a great deal since the 1960's and we as a nation are better off for them. That said if a movement ever get's out of ha…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 10:52 PM
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Victim politics ideologues don't fight for people who need justice of any kind. They exploit public sympathy for people's hardships to gain political power, raise funds, and puff themselves up. These are not the people who pass antidiscrimination laws, work to educate the public, or otherwise attempt to help heal the rifts in the society in which they live. They are scam artists who use those rifts as a means to their own ends, and they make shitloads of money doing it. You seem like a moron who…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 08:40 PM
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Being anti feminists is a practical requirement in the same way that civil rights workers end up being anti racists/anti segregationist. Feminism and feminists are sexist against men to the point where it serves as a foundation for their perspectives. To be tolerant of feminism is to be tolerant of man hating as a basis for a belief system. The traditions and ideals of old second wave radicals die hard especially when they go unchallenged. Trashing women as a gender is a bad thing, but on occasi…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 08:23 PM
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I suppose gender biased compassion where there would otherwise be none is much better than none.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 08:16 PM
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Why are you complaining if they just drove off? Don't you see how stupid all this random whining about random people gets? His purpose was to express interest in seeing your tits. It's like when you see a nice shirt and say 'nice shirt'. He liked your tits. Treat your tits as a object in space instead of some sacred vessel and you won't be so hung up on the idea of someone liking them. Just a thought.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 08:11 PM
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To persist in the face of NOT INTERESTED is not cute and not helpful -- and not really a burden I want/need men to take upon themselves. Of course you don't want it because it's unwanted interest. The people likely to pursue when you aren't interested are those who don't respond to indications of disinterest. You can talk to those people but leave the rest of men out of it. It's that simple. We don't need women going on these gender hate campaigns every time some dude annoys them. That needs to …
/r/MensRights11/02/14 08:00 PM
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I'm not anti social justice but I'm against bad social justice. Feminism to me is the corrupt core of the bad social justice today where ego, greed, and self serving agendas trump the needs of the needy. I know the cult like evil that is/was Atheism Plus. They were horrible people who deserve our contempt but I must distinguish that rotten core from those who simply share ideas on a particular forum.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 07:58 PM
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We have to get out of this white knight mind set and really see women as people. So much of male response seems like old instincts to fend off rival mates coming back go haunt us. Women can and must handle some unwanted attention in their youth. They'll grow out of it eventually and likely miss it when it's gone. Notice the age ranges of the women complaining. Peak fertility is a window lasting about 20-30% of a women's life. It too shall pass. It's in the reproductive interest of males to seek …
/r/MensRights11/02/14 07:47 PM
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Women and minorities fighting discrimination were put in the same position as you. The fact is your going to need courage to fight for justice. These changes don't come without a cost to the people trying to make them.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 07:10 PM
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The stats on the article are garbage. Between 20-25% of women and 3% of men will experience an attempted or completed sexual assault in college. A girl has roughly the same chance of being sexually assaulted during college, one in four/five, as she does of getting the flu during an average year. Men make up 6-8% of college sexual assault victims but most studies leave them out or choose tiny male populations as samples. We need to do more to publicize the fact males make 25-30% of campus sexual …
/r/MensRights11/02/14 05:18 PM
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I think you got a raw deal. This should be a very open forum considering we're not just dealing with gender issue itself from a Men's Rights perspective and not just male issues. Both sexes come into play in one way or another. Keeping our focus international is an excellent way to avoid being yet another western white focused social justice movement that acts as if the rest of the world's people don't really matter. That post should have stayed up and the community should have decided if it was…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 04:36 PM
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The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is unnecessarily inflammatory. I disagree. Defending Palestinians against the oppressive abuses of the IDF has been mainstream activism since Operation Cast. We spend our time debating feminists and to call something else controversial or inflammatory is pretty silly. Supporting humane treatment of suffering Palestinians is far less controversial than the stances MRA's take on gender issues.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 04:34 PM
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The Israel-Palestinian issues aren't nearly as controversial as they used to be since it's now a commonly held belief that Israel is guilty of oppressing it's Palestinian population. The Academic boycotts should tell you something.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 04:31 PM
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It looks like a women has about 98% of her rape risk between ages 10 to 45. The CDC NISVS 2010 with some of the highest rape rates of all the government studies has about a 1.1% per year rape risk so recalculate with those numbers. Page 18,25 http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf
/r/MensRights11/02/14 04:36 AM
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You should read the links from them posted here. It's quite promising and it would be a fine inclusion on MRA sites. They did a excellent piece on female sexual aggression. Here is a comment: Maybe in a vacuum. has this guy ever implied that he believes that it would not be necessary to “screen” people if he was running helpline for female abuse victims? if not I think it’s wrong to try and make a gender issue out of this Maybe in a vacuum. Thank you for calling attention to this, Ally. A few ye…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 01:44 AM
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I've seen a lot of good stuff from them being posted here. It seems they've rediscovered their skepticism.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 01:41 AM
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That was very nice but considering the forum you are in it might be advisable to apply these tests to the frustrated feminist who misunderstood male sexuality to the point of spending decades advancing absurd negative stereotypes of men. It's so easy to critique men but whenwhen you turn the tables men get scared. They need a whole dose of red pill to get past that point.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 12:30 AM
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I think we need start taking a anti-creep shaming campaign seriously as an approach to this nonsense. They care nothing for how men feel and almost seem to seek gain advantage by feeding men's feelings of insecurity. Their desire for absolute control over all men seems to trump men's own basis for self worth. Then again people seeking absolute control over your person rarely respect you.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 11:38 PM
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Yes men get less sexual attention but they are also culturally burdened with showing sexual interest in women or risk being alone for the rest of their lives. That's aspect of reality men ought respect even if feminists can't climb out their solipsistic hole long enough to see that. They're self serving rhetoric wreaks of the very entitlement they accuse men of.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 11:36 PM
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Their feelings of safety must be measured in objective rather than subjective terms to be a societal standard. If they have gone out of their way to make themselves fearful of ordinary non threats then we needn't concern ourselves with their irrational response. If that fear is triggered by some person specific trauma then we needn't arrange the society such that no other triggering person crosses their path. There is such a thing as a unreasonable expectation of accommodation.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 11:32 PM
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If who's worse off didn't matter feminists wouldn't have to distort statistics or simply leave men's stats out. Even the humanist ideal would require a reasoned basis for allocating social justice resources.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 10:20 PM
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How about you let men on occasion say something bad about a women instead of assigning your self the role of 'defender of women' in a male safe space to borrow a term. We needn't treat men like monsters in need of constant repression for in freedom they will inevitably threaten women. Instead regard both as equals and if you feel compelled to gender police have at it in a feminist forum and we'll count the hours or minutes until you get banned. You are still thinking like a traditionalist instea…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 10:06 PM
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Men who make that kind of effort to display sexual interest are few but they hit on a lot of women. This mass marketing approach is a waste of time but the bravado it inspires can build confidence. The problem is we only expect men to initiate and as such neither sex sees both sides. These men are trapped by their role but if we were equal that minority wouldn't be made more insecure by appearing desperate rather than bolder than the average man for being proactive. Either way we shouldn't be ca…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 09:34 PM
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I think the right wingers here need to chill with this right left war the keep pushing or their going to run men's rights into the ground. Your doing social justice and you need the left like it or not.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 09:21 PM
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The one thing I'm conflicted about are those promoting false stats who have no idea they are false. How much anger is warranted in that case? Also I am not above useing stats I don't trust to make points because there really isn't anything else to go on when you need citatios for your assumptions. Someone did research and got some results. It's impractical to repeat their efforts ourselves so you pick and choose. Of course what feminists academics have done amounts to a vast misinformation campa…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 09:18 PM
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It's not the obligation of society to structure itself around every paranoid delusion of every individual in it. If the those fears are neither common not objective then we shouldn't do anything about them except tell the fearful person to get their head straight. Fear mongering creates fear. That's the point, so if feminists wanted women to be less fearful they should stop exaggerating threats. Instead we see people who derive support and power from manufactured fear trying to take it to ever g…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 07:16 PM
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Yet another self serving double standard. Once upon a time it was acceptable for a women to publicly proclaim her commitment to making her man happy. Now such a women would be regarded as a victim of abuse in need of reeducation or rescue.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 06:24 PM
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Equal rights requires rejecting the premise feminism sets forth that presumes things about the sexes that aren't equal and aren't true. For example the assumption that women aren't violent towards men makes it impossible to have EQUAL domestic violence advocacy. If you ignore male victims of female perpetrated sexual violence then your theories that presume the culture is setup to rape women end up being garbage propaganda. You need to clear up what we're fighting for and who we are FORCED to fi…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 06:07 PM
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You just said we're working in parallel with feminists so you must think we're feminists or you must be a feminists. Their ideology has labeled our gender oppressors who created a culture so toxic it drives men to rape and abuse women while discouraging girls from taking roles in political leadership, tech, or engineering. That's where they are ideologically despite most of those majoring in the social in natural sciences being women. Their bull crap is unacceptable and we have to take a solid s…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 06:03 PM
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Red pill thinking is not traditionalist and it's neither liberal or conservative. It's outside the box all together. If anyone here is playing the role of traditionalist it's those attacking it so they can go back to compulsively pandering to the fairer sex instead of treating them as equals. Men's Rights, ideologically, sits squarely within the camp of liberalism (not the political party, the philosophy), as it is an idea based around human rights... the exact opposite of what the red pill want…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 05:54 PM
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Social justice was hijacked by victim politics ideologues Who do you think needs social justice and who do you think is going to fight for them? You run this shallow conservative crap is made to order for powerful majorities to their social frame work on minorities no matter how unfair it might be to them. The ideologies that revolt against the systems of control imposed by your ideology is what you treat as the enemy of all things good. I'm really getting fed up with the right wing crap. I'm to…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 05:19 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 04:47 PM
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I'm happy to hear teenage girls are chasing boys like boys chase girls. That's progress toward equality as far as I'm concerned. If anybody needs to learn the power of 'NO' it's men & boys.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 04:46 PM
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Yeah that doesn't sound right. That's a big tough lady and some how he forcefully removed ALL of her clothes? I think they need to find a motive for a false accusation but this seems physically impossible unless she was pass out drunk.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 04:37 PM
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TheRedPill has a purpose because it's rebelling against the orthodox thought policing in our culture that we've accumulated due to feminists psycho social manipulation. This Victorian era 'code of the gentlemen' their now advancing is a load of backwards chivalrous crap and it's one sided female only focused implementation doesn't set a foundation for gender equality. They are the reactionaries pushing us into a prior social order because losing their patriarchal female privileges scares the cra…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 04:30 PM
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The MensRights movement is working in parallel to feminism, not against them. WTF are you talking about? I'm sorry but who the heck appointed you head of the Men's Rights Movement and since where obviously anti feminists to the freaking core your assertion straight out your arse. Being pro equality and pro feminists aren't one and the same. We've been fighting against feminists for decades and you roll out with some dumb crap like that. Go read some history and get perspective before making thes…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 04:17 PM
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You make some excellent points here. I did some more research about the history of child abuse advocacy and ironically (puppy reference) they indicate that one of the earliest organizations for the "Prevention of Cruelty to Children" emerged from "The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals" back in 1870's. Source: Encyclopedia of Social Welfare History in North America Do you have a source supporting the claim that feminism drew child sexual abuse into the public? If true, that would a…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 06:59 PM
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Look at the work they did on child sexual abuse. Before them it wasn't even spoken of. I'm fervently anti-feminists but I do respect good work. We have a lot to catch up on if want to be on their level to help the people we're claiming to support. I assumed the politicization was mainly about the sexual aspect being over emphasized but I think that was a self serving delusion. We can't look a male or female victim in the face and tell them their sexual abuse was on par with a beating. It's a lot…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 11:49 AM
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Do you realize we're activists? The shut up and take it generations didn't really get the job done. I just sayin...
/r/MensRights09/02/14 11:39 AM
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If white men don't care to give scholarships to white boys then you know things are bad. The resentment from not having your group targeted should be limited to gender (more women in college than men). The other groups are far less likely to end up in college unless you are talking about Asians.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 11:35 AM
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Thanks for demonstrating actual missionary at the institutional and systemic level. Feminists have taken over the social sciences and you demonstrate it's impact. FYI: The Duluth model of domestic violence blames all female on male violence on males. I think your therapist was running something like that.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 11:20 AM
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That's not misandry, that's your lady trying to manipulate you into giving her stuff. If we call that misandry we have to call a hell o a lot of things men do misogyny and I don't want to go there because it's going to include asking for sex more than once on the same day, asking her to make you a sandwich, asking for money, looking at other women, and a whole host of other crap. Leave he petty personal biz out of this if you know what's good for you because the opposition is eventually going to…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 11:17 AM
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Real talk. If she called you a creep you should have stood up for yourself and shut that crap down or the next man. Too many men playing victim in this realm haven't stood up and women become entitled whiners as a result. Not every guy has the confidence level required to do this but those who do ought do. Stop letting your life revolved around pleasing women. That's phase one in getting your self esteem back in order. Treat them like you do men. It's not like you will magically get some action …
/r/MensRights09/02/14 11:12 AM
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We're supposed to be activist not quitters.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 10:55 AM
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Did you effectively respond to those comments? That's what I want to know because I don't see it. If you need some help on how to do it just ask. Any reference to rape or domestic violence must be met with links to the stats demonstrating substantial rates of male victimization in studies. The pay gap is a bogus issue along with the DV gap and the sexual violence gap. On those issues the main problem is men who are unwilling to proudly take on the role of victim. That would actually re-victimize…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 10:54 AM
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In the name of due diligence I'll post a conflicting perspective. I happened across it while looking up information about funding disparities between gender specific cancers. The link looks good but I'd rather a proper review of literature. Reuters blog July 2013 Women are under-represented in cancer studies, a bias that has concerned researchers for years yet has gone largely unaddressed. Lower participation rates by women in health studies generally results in their not getting the same access…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 10:36 AM
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First off we need to understand that feminism hijacked social justice and made a mockery of it. The other minority groups fighting to have their needs addressed by the majority will probably always need it. The power politics of majority versus minority won't go away even if we stop being bigoted. There will still be conflicts of interest and that's when it will matter. Women aren't a minority. Ironically doing so was to the detriment of minorities who saw scarce resources redirected to helping …
/r/MensRights08/02/14 11:57 PM
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Feminism regarded marriage as a system of a oppression and women's dependence on men in general as a system of oppression. If we went from a culture where men seeking women were seen as care takers to one where men doing the exact same thing are viewed as would be oppressors I think that's going to have a substantial impact.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 11:49 PM
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They had the hashtag creator on and he said it was meant to be a joke. He didn't help men by doing that but I'm sure he spared himself some grief.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 11:37 PM
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We needn't be defending patriarchy in the modern context so I don't see the point. The old system is setup to get men to sacrifice their lives for women. It's worth defending in hostile environments where survival is on the line but not in modern societies where gender roles can simply be matters of personal choice. It makes sense to defend it's past usage for practical reasons but not in the present.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 11:26 PM
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I take them seriously because they've done more to promote just their type of feminism than MRA's have the full scope of Men's Rights. They culturally dominate the college campuses, and end up setting agendas. The impact is serious, so we ought take them seriously.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:39 PM
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Men's favortism toward has always been something women could exploit but when women took on the same roles as men a conflict of interest developed that's not easy to resolve. Men who at one time were primed to how deference towards women are now in direct competition with them. Traditional social structures worked to prevent that. Now men have to confront their favortism toward women directly or the society will continue to put their needs last.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 06:37 PM
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The Meninsim hashtag was a joke.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 06:28 PM
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Thanks for the post. My close friend just died of heart disease in December. He was 33 years old. We really need more people to get involved in standing up for men and boys. Feminists are exceedingly powerful and standing up to them is something that's very hard for people to do. What man wants to take a stand against putting the needs of women first and still be considered a man by traditional masculine standards? These women's activists are exploiting the very patriarchy the claim to be fighti…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 05:35 PM
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Why are you insulting the man for having reasonable assumptions? The fact a small minority of women can create this much trouble is pretty hard for people to grasp until they've been targeted by feminists. I think your tone is triggering ha ha. Seriously I've seen too much of that from the SJW.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 04:30 PM
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I don't think he's naive(as in unreasonably idealistic). The feminist extremism on campuses is something few people are aware of that don't live or work on these campuses. The emergence of hyper sensitivity as a system of hate is a new trick that which history hasn't prepared us to tackle head on since most injustice came about because of insensitivity to certain groups as is the case for men fighting for men's rights. When the society must choose between insensitivity towards women versus insen…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 04:27 PM
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“This is a person who is an outsider, he’s displaced,” said artist Tony Matelli. “So I thought the reaction would be empathy.” It's shocking how the lack of empathy for men in our culture get's overlooked as an issue.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 04:22 PM
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When i started with this MRA stuff i was pretty reluctant to play victim by the stats. That's easy enough to do but when the thing that annoys you is people playing victim needlessly you avoid it. The thing is it's a victims perspective and if we don't take our own victims as seriously as feminist take theirs why should they take ours seriously. So who would you want as your victims advocate. MRA'S or feminist?
/r/MensRights08/02/14 03:46 AM
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Did some tweeting and their problem was ignorance not hate. They don't know the stats and I think we need to understand that we still can change minds if we take the time to respectfully deconstruct deficiencies in their perspectives. A lot of these people are really about fairness. Don't sell them short. Of course others hate men and ain't trying to here it. Learn their game, test the waters, change minds when possible.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 03:38 AM
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We can't keep letting them exploit aspects of traditional culture that hurt men in order to benefit women. The selective compassion problem is something we might never get over. Actually caring equally about the life and welfare of both sexes is something I still struggle with after years of advocating for men & boys. On principal I think we should be against Red for women when it should be Red for both sexes. Equality is our guide.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 12:46 AM
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Men have proven more than capable of cooperating. I think this tail chasing business is immaturity being dressed up as pragmatism.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 12:40 AM
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I don't see what you mean here. It's simply a factual matter that blacks are much more likely to be members of violent gangs or drug cartels that murder their rivals. The point is if we don't regard murder equally we leave ourselves open to racial bias or class bias filtering rigging the system to favor certain groups. This is and has been a major problem. We assume some people guilty and other innocent. Some get light sentences while we throw away the key with others. White girl lives aren't wo…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 12:39 AM
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We're going to need feminists to cooperate for this to work. I don't think you appreciate how powerful they are or the sizable the head start they have. It's not like these gender obsessed people are going to just walk away or that men are going to aggressively campaign against the very women who's favor they seek. Feminist are powerful enough to hold back Men's Rights for decades if their own conscience didn't get in the way. They've already done it. What's changing feminism right now is their …
/r/MensRights07/02/14 11:51 PM
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You don't interrupt it but you can encourage it. Encouraging it would make feminism better for us. The current focus is on 'inclusion'. I think we have some points we can make on that subject. We can even stand up for male feminists who are too hen pecked to do it themselves.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 11:09 PM
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That's why when you enter a feminists conversation you do so while having a sufficiently deep understanding of their issues to make points they would find hard to argue with. It's not easy but those who can should.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 11:08 PM
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The problem is men haven't made enough effort over the years to care about men. If we take the blame the society approach it's obvious men are taught to prioritize women's needs over men's from a young age. If we take the personal responsibility perspective then men have sold their sons to ingratiate themselves with women. Either way men need to change so the sooner the better. You should know prostate cancer kills about 30,000 men a year versus 40,000 women from breast cancer. You also have 30,…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 09:04 PM
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Nice work.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 08:52 PM
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If you see a raucous dialogue on gender issues going on you better get involved or your going to be left out. That's exactly what MRA's did to change the game. We don't have to fall into the same trap of insular group think that feminists did. Injecting men's issues into the feminist dialogue is how we've managed to come this far because lord knows we don't have a virtual army of journalists and academics working on our behalf. We need them to care about men even if they aren't their primary foc…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 08:35 PM
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Boycotting marriage is passive aggressive ? I think it's a personal choice that we needn't advocate as a solution when family formation is something we humans have been doing as long as we've been human. Stable families and reproduction itself aren't things we ought give up on, they are things we ought fight for. I'd like to see the fight in us instead of giving in to fear and cynicism. I don't want to hurt following generations in the way feminists did with their anti male rhetoric. We should s…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 04:59 PM
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Anger is inevitable. I disagree. We don't have to give a pass to people for their employing social aggression as a weapon to prevent miscegenation. This is racism which is far more harmful to the social fabric than bucking the established social order by seeking love outside of ones racial group. The anger is a choice and I'd imagine most people don't expect to control the love lives of those around them. I don't even think this is an issue of the social contract anymore than we'd say one must s…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 04:52 PM
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Fine. Let's just call it false accusations in general. The force of law should not be used as a weapon to wage personal wars through false allegations of illegal behavior or to divert attention away from one's own misconduct.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 04:42 PM
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That's a sick thread. Both men and women giving tacit endorsement to sexual violence against little boys being perpetrated by little girls.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 03:54 PM
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From the post it's hard to see any clear wrong doing on her part. She at least showed concern for the guy, but it would be another matter if she said men can't be raped or something to that effect.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 03:37 PM
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If anyone is being subjected to a 'hostile environment' it's boys.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 03:26 PM
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The impact is serious and we have a whole movement full of reluctant activist to prove it.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 03:14 PM
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*Not anymore
/r/MensRights07/02/14 03:06 PM
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This is the first I'm hearing of anti trans intolerant gay men but there is no ideology I'm aware of that would give them reason to take this perspective. I knew about the TERF's but I'm shocked to hear about the rest.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 03:05 PM
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Do you think any of this trans resentment stemmed from the very existence of trans people challenging the gender as a purely social construct or is it more a matter of challenge it presented to sex/gender existentialist? Also did their animosity extend to queer identifying people as well? I'll be educating myself on transphobia in the gay community. I really had no idea.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 02:48 PM
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I have to deal with cis folk often asserting that they know better than me about who and what I am. It can be exhausting, and can ruin my day. The voices of cis folk who make up about 90% of the population matter a lot whether you find it annoying or not. You ought not expect the world revolve around your unique experiences because that kind of self centered, self serving disposition is impractical when talking about the society as a whole. It's fair to self focus when discussing your own experi…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 02:28 PM
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The comic reveals the disgusting anti male bigotry in feminism. The comic is also misleading in that male voices in general are regarded with hostility be it white, black, Hispanic, gay or straight. They want a conversation that's female dominated and the men are reduced to allies which can only echo the sentiments of established women leaders. This sexist model of discourse is about enforcing a female dominated order which benefits of a few dominant women in the discourse rather than women as a…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 02:16 PM
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Since 93% of those murdered by blacks are black so for this to happen you need some serious racial bias. No one feels as bad when a gang member or drug dealer gets killed in a turf war? We are all equal before the law and there should be no bias when it comes to the victim be they a bum on the street, a gang banger, or a pretty white girl. Dealing with this sort of emotional bias and selective compassion is very much a MRM issue because most often it's compassion for men which is lacking rather …
/r/MensRights07/02/14 02:03 PM
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There is no real gender discrimination going on here, just two little shits trying to hurt someone because they could. Immunity for those who make false sex crime accusations is most certainly a MRM issue since men are overwhelmingly the target of those accusations to the point where women's activists are little concerned with the problem as a result. Rest assured that if women were subject to the same rate of false accusation as men they'd make more of an issue out of it.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 02:00 PM
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This daily dose of false reports is something that seems to escape notice. It seems we have fresh stories here each day but somehow we are supposed to believe they are incredibly rare. "Vancouver Police Youth Services is now working with the girls and their families to assist in any way needed, and to help ensure the girls understand the gravity of their actions," the department said in a written statement. As the girls are under 12 years of age, the force said it is not pursuing charges of publ…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 01:57 PM
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We should recognize this as a return to traditionalist patriarchal ideals which were hostile to men using file language around women as it might offend their 'compulsively emotional feeble child like minds'. This nonsense isn't equality and we shouldn't stand for it.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 01:50 PM
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Continuing the pattern that professors as well as students are vulnerable to the university's Orwellian procedures, there's this item: "An anonymous individual [emphasis added] reported that a male faculty member made inappropriate comments of a sexual nature and engaged in other inappropriate conduct to several staff members. The respondent was suspended pending the investigation, which is ongoing." Where are all those people now who claimed the 'anonymous reports' would never be used to penali…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 01:49 PM
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MGM is a big part of our culture that we have accepted for a long time. FGM is something that other cultures do so it's easy to vilify without bringing our own culture under scrutiny. Men and women have to step up to fix the blind spot. Our culture isn't perfect and our tradition of MGM is not that different from FGM. Other than that we have to recognize feminists run the gender debate and they don't give a damn about men and boys except for how they may be utilized by women.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 04:51 PM
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What you guys need to know when debating the free birth control issue: Excluded drugs While CMS does not have an established formulary, Part D drug coverage excludes drugs not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, those prescribed for off-label use, drugs not available by prescription for purchase in the United States, and drugs for which payments would be available under Parts A or B of Medicare. Part D coverage excludes drugs or classes of drugs which may be excluded from Medicaid cove…
/r/MensRights06/02/14 04:25 PM
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Like I said we need to come to our senses but until then fair play requires we hold them to the standards they hold us to. If nobody likes these standards after seeing how easy they are to abuse then we might get some where with changing them. That or we can try playing the persecuted victim route which rarely works out well for men.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 04:17 PM
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The rate of single dads is increasing faster than the rate of single moms. Somethings going on.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 03:59 PM
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I agree 100% but fair play is in order when women's activists exploit the law to intimidate men. If at some point we come to our senses I think we'll be better off for it but until then I expect men to fully assert their equal rights under the law.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 03:58 PM
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I be debating feminist so...
/r/MensRights06/02/14 03:53 PM
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How about we help men's rights by advocating for the issues of men and boys? I think that would be more effective than this passive aggressive nonsense. Too many men want to stick their head in the sand and wait for all the troubles to go away. That's not going to happen. Find your courage, step up, and do your part.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 03:36 PM
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The only way men are going to effectively challenge these narratives are to detach their love for women with the pursuit of fairness for both sexes. The geek/tech community is particularly vulnerable because it's filled with men who have relatively low social skills that are primed for this sort of manipulation. We have to remind men it's ok to say 'NO' to women and to question their motives when they are lobbying for their own self interest. The basic questions: Is this truly a greater good iss…
/r/MensRights06/02/14 02:09 PM
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Then tell her the community is hostile toward women and therefore doesn't have enough of them, all while showing her off like a prize poodle so you can feel good about recruiting a female. This is a recipe for failure." I disagree with her on that. It would actually work out just fine in the same way it did in other areas. The hostile space where you have a bunch of men with nice jobs showing sexual interest in you as a women is a whole lot better than the high school they attended which shared …
/r/MensRights06/02/14 02:02 PM
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The third/fourth wave are using their gender to get stuff from men. It's a return to traditionalist female entitlement being past off as social justice. Basically it's [I'm a women, I want it, so you must give it to me]. Anything short of blind obedience is regarded as oppression that is now a substitute for the social exclusion used in the traditional model. If a man failed to be a gentlemen that was his fate. Now if a man fails to abide by the dictates of his feminists masters he shared the sa…
/r/MensRights06/02/14 01:44 PM
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It's racism and you need to tell them as much.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 04:46 AM
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I'd your father was a feminist he would be reduced to an ally whose lowly status wouldn't allow him to question the perspective of women on these issues. It's a very much a with us or against us mentality that actively seeks to limit the influence of men aside from parroting the talking points of the establishment. Women have more freedom to speak but they too are subject to being driven away for failure to adhere to the dominant perspective. He can be a feminist but only if he says what dominan…
/r/MensRights06/02/14 02:59 AM
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Your sense of entitlement and arrogance is on par with that of a tumblr feminists. Get that chip off your shoulder because that SJW mentality is exactly what fueled the creation of the MRM. You are not entitled to freedom from offense nor do we need to operate in your Orwellian thought policing bubble. Let freedom ring!
/r/MensRights05/02/14 08:04 PM
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I'm happy you're not a racist and I don't assume being on the right or conservative makes you one. What I do assume is if you are a racist you'll find significant support on the right. I see this in right wing forums where NOBODY calls out racism in hundreds of comments that are plainly racist. For example you can say something like [black men can't be trusted] , [whites need to put whites first], [the problem is blacks aren't as smart as whites], [blacks are lazy and dumb] and get up voted a lo…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 07:57 PM
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How do you mean? Like the progressive stack? I mean a formula. I don't see why we can't do something new with social justice. Instead of appeals to emotion we can use an appeal to reason along utilitarian lines without assigning value by the value of the person who benefits. Simply put the greatest good for the greatest number. Or the greater good for a smaller number when the circumstances faced by that minority are extremely oppressive. If we look at fathers rights the numbers of people impact…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 07:42 PM
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It is quite conservative in erring on the side of an authoritarian overreach on issues of crime and punishment as it pertains to the protection of women. Of course emphasis on the protection of women appeals to traditionalist conservative elements in our society. The anti drug push was first marketed as a way to protect women just like with prohibition. The entire frame of 'rape culture' wreaks of Victorian sexual ethics with one major exception. Females are to be exempt from any societal expect…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 07:22 PM
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You're worthless, to put it bluntly. You've got two parties of bigots, and you want to pick the one that hates you. I know exactly which one hates me. I'm black and I'm not going to support the party where white supremacist go to find brotherhood. I support the MRM but the right in America is a hot mess when it comes to dealing with minorities. It's a 90% white party for a reason. I know plenty of blacks who are naturally conservative in their outlook but the racism is a deal breaker. You can se…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 07:06 PM
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Is it a one sided focus on violence against women? If yes then the answer to the question is YES!
/r/MensRights05/02/14 06:49 PM
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You cannot blame these boys for acting the way they do. Perhaps a bridge to far... We might not be surprised by what they do but we should certainly blame them for it. I have many friends who lived a life of crime in their youth and as adults they blame nobody but themselves. Of course others let them down but we still have to make choices. Most kids without dads won't engage in armed robbery, or gun play. That minority are the worst of the worst and the know what they do is wrong, they just sto…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 07:21 PM
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I hold him accountable because he's the damn President.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 07:05 PM
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Don't come down on the boy scouts because their leadership brought into the feminists inspired 'male as sexual predator' narrative. I went on a camping trip with my nephew and we had to take a mandatory online safety course. None of it had anything to do with safety. It was all about preventing molestation. The pedophile threat treatment that men get is all about the feminisms.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 07:03 PM
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Meanwhile, on Father's Day, Obama will take his position at the podium to speak for his male constituents....by blaming them as a collective for not doing their job as role models for their kids. He called out black men specifically which was a horrible thing for the first black president to do. Black male involvement in their kids lives is actually quite high but the men don't live with the women which creates problems. We have a break down of black male/female relations that foretells what's c…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 06:59 PM
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Mainstream MRA thought says that, to really advance the men's rights movement, you have to displace the democrats who are often actively fighting that cause. I'm sorry but I have no interest in voting for a party that's also the home of xenophobes, racists, white supremacists, gay bashers and the like. If I had to choose between liberalism with feminism and that muck on the right I'd be stuck with the feminists. There is simply too much hostility towards black people and many others on the right…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 06:49 PM
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It absolutely has swung too far in the direction of political correctness, feminism, and liberalism in general. Stick to feminism. Since we don't pay much attention to the other social justice issues I don't think your sufficiently informed to question their validity. We've made a case against the feminists narrative using statistics that wouldn't hold up when applied to other groups. The fact we hear so little from them despite their having far worse problems is proof enough that they don't hav…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 06:39 PM
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From racism What's racism got to do with this? I'm really fed up with people conflating race and gender as if the needs and influence of ethnic minorities is anywhere close to that of white women running the women's movement. Keep in mind that even with a black president who was himself a black boy he can't push the needs of men and boys forward without suffering the wrath of predominantly white female feminists. We haven't gone overboard on racism. We avoid the issue because it makes whites unc…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 06:33 PM
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Right now if you say "I'm an MRA" you're leaving quite alot of stuff open to interpretation That's inevitable with any broad social movement. Considering the target of concern is about half the human population it's seriously broad. We make a statement of support, but don't try to coopt their movement. We only get involved if an LGBT rights issue also happens to be a men's rights issue, otherwise we stay out. Sounds like a great standard and the right wing influence within the movement would be …
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:07 PM
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Don't read this: No I am exactly what's right about the MRM. It's men like you who cow to women at every turn who ended up selling out our sons in the first place. The MRM is fiercely opposed to the feminists narrative because it's actually WRONG! You want to abide by their narrative and figure out how to some how wedge men's issues into it which would still leave a narrative in place that presumes women to be the primary victims of concern and men some ancillary sub group whose victimization ou…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 04:42 PM
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Reflection is not welcomed here, and websites like AVFM, which are constantly posting hateful things towards women and not just feminists, are still supported by many MRAs and their website is often given sticky posts by mods. You seem to think reflection amounts to not stop female butt kissing. You really need to get off your knees and realize women are just people just like men. We can treat them the same as men and that's fine. You don't write off a site that says some bad things about some m…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:37 AM
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No I'm no a feminists and that statement speaks to what's going on in India where a deeply patriarchal society overreacts to female victimization and creates laws that unjustly favor women to the point of being primarily tools of abuse. Patriachies have a serious issue with the 'women are wonderful' effect because the narrow roles created for women makes outwards demonstration of their poor behavior less likely. Her misdeeds occur out of sight in the home or in some other closed setting. She doe…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 04:56 AM
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How much vile sexism is thrown at women on a day to day basis? Obviously you are one of those people who foolishly misinterprets men expressping sexual interest in women as would be oppressors. Vile sexism implies some kind of severe act and the women I know say no such things. You actually have to indoctrinate women into a mindset where they see nearly everything as sexist by piling on layers of abstraction. That's not real oppression, it's imagines slight derived from a dogmatic ideological pe…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 04:49 AM
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A minority of posters here are gender traditionalists, they have as much claim to the term "MRA" as we do. The point of this is to create a sub identity which refers to specific ideas, like gender non-traditionalism. They are a minority and our presence puts us in the majority. Out of curiosity, how do you feel this is feminist styled? Personally I find the whole focus on "oppression" rather inaccurate. Marxism barely applies to class these days, it doesn't apply to gender at all. Well I assume …
/r/MensRights04/02/14 04:41 AM
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Perhaps she was comparing their post divorce suicide rate to that of women in which case a 10 to 1 number would make since considering women's suicide rate doesn't go up after divorce and men are already 4x more likely to commit suicide. 4 x 2.5 = 10.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 04:21 AM
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Is that an accurate stat or are you being hyperbolic? I think the real stat is 2.5 times more likely. http://antimisandry.com/marriage-divorce-children-choice-men/15-000-18-000-divorced-men-commit-suicide-every-year-17392.html
/r/MensRights03/02/14 08:54 PM
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That's too much like /r/mensrights to bother. Minority and LGBT issues don't need to be shoved in another lefty ghetto. They ought stand on their own but in the context of men's rights we're already talking global men's issues. What we need are more minority and gay men to raise their issues within /r/mensrights. This whole pandering to the historically oppressed thing is a feminists tactic that ended up driving empowerment into the hands of well off white women. I assure you the same thing will…
/r/MensRights03/02/14 08:41 PM
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everyone understands it's just they are vulnerable to (true OR false(usually 9 out of 10 times false)) allegations. This stats not right and it's not ok to declare 90% of rape allegations false with no evidence except your own assumptions. That would hurt all victims of sexual violence male and female. In general we should accept that we don't know the false allegation rate because we've never created a fool proof method of determining the validity of accusations.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 08:15 PM
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I think your right to take issue with that and it is absurd.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 08:11 PM
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You make a good point but it's feminists who are notorious for spreading false or misleading stats. The rate of false allegations is unknowable in a context where for most allegations there is no way of knowing which are true or false beyond a reasonable doubt. Every time anyone post a rate as if it were true they are misleading people and feminists have done this for decades. The 2% stand alone figure has been for the most part retired due to MRA's complaining. They (feminists journalist) now s…
/r/MensRights03/02/14 08:00 PM
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The left is the political home of feminism so I don't think much more proof is needed. Anti male as in assuming the worst about men and setting policy from there is a problem on the left and right but the left tends to feed that gender resentment by supporting those who call out the male gender directly such as our President. He took the time to condemn both black fathers and our boys in general for not 'respecting' women. That's pretty darn anti male.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 05:27 PM
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They tend to be radical lefty academics in the social sciences. They aren't trolls. Even though they are serious that doesn't mean they abide by their stated principals. The fluid debate they engage in is an exercise in group think dominated by well educated relatively privileged individuals seeking to manipulate the behavior of others with claims of oppression while seeking a state of moralistic nirvana for themselves. Instead of favoring the marginalized, it favors the most popular group they …
/r/MensRights03/02/14 05:16 PM
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We should be talking more about what's going on in India. I'm happy the men there have woken up to these issues before the feminists & traditionalist shut their voices out.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 07:53 PM
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Why does the system never take allegations of abandonment, neglect and fraud from a father seriously I think that is the most common false allegation made by men against mothers. In a sense men's activists are on both sides of that issue but neglect on that scale should never escape notice when a parent is raising the issue. The kids are lucky to have a dad like you.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 07:27 PM
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I think the shaming of sexuality. People have a lot of hang ups in our culture because we are so conflicted when it comes to these matters. I was going to put it in male versus female terms but it's definitely a two way street. To perv is to recognize your own sexual urges while using a term that inoculates you from the label of deviant by preemptively embracing it.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 05:17 PM
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Damn...men can't get a break.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 01:22 AM
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That broke a new record for the most insanely racist comment threads I've ever seen. Someone with the stomach for it needs to educate those sorry men on gender issues because it seems they've taken the anti white male drub beat being advanced by (white) feminist's projected it onto blacks. For those who don't know blacks take issue with white supremacy and the really don't care about the gender that white supremacists. That thread went into outright white supremacy in a article primarily focused…
/r/MensRights02/02/14 12:41 AM
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These radicals are respected contributors to the feminists movement whose ideas and perspectives are still embraced decades later. You can't compare that too random trolls online making idle threats. If feminism was about equality it would have shunned this type at least by now.
/r/MensRights01/02/14 08:10 AM
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You are talking about a class of crime committed by minuscule percentage of people. What you describe is a violent crime and 85% of those we have in prison are not there for violent crimes. Other than that you are using racial stereotypes the same way feminists use gender stereotypes which is bigoted as hell. The question you need to ask yourself is why are you attacking black people in the first place. They are perhaps the worst of minority group in America who's only competition are Native Ame…
/r/MensRights01/02/14 07:41 AM
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Yes it is hard but tell me how much do you know about men's lives in those places? Find that out first before jumping to conclusions. My guess is that kind of over the top paternalism shifts responsibility for nearly everything onto men. If a women wants to go somewhere you must drive them, and walk around with them. Where a women is put to death for rape what situation do you think a sexually abused boy is in? These are the dynamics that MRA's see that a lot of other people don't. Try and keep …
/r/MensRights01/02/14 07:03 AM
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if it were all about protecting the women, why couldn't women volunteer for combat roles until recently? I really don't see why that would change anything. The protecting women thing still stands if they didn't allow for women volunteers.
/r/MensRights01/02/14 06:59 AM
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Because MRA's are so often in the business of trying to down play some over hyped narrative about men being super bad, I think it's counter productive to make negative generalizations about gender relations in the middle east as a whole. It's likely conventional assumptions are wrong when Iran has had more women than men in STEM for a long time now. Also where we find a oppressive society for women there can be no doubt that it also oppresses men. The Taliban will shoot a girl for going to schoo…
/r/MensRights01/02/14 06:57 AM
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Of course they'll accept peer review...but only by group think.
/r/MensRights01/02/14 06:31 AM
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Men are not punished at the correct levels. We have roughly 6 times the incarceration rate of Canada.
/r/MensRights01/02/14 06:29 AM
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That's sometimes true and other times not. People get caught doing crime where there are people looking for crime. If you do crime in a place where police don't look then you'll keep getting away with it. That's how it is with whites and drug use. They do it just as much but get away with it a lot more. It's not unlike rich people during prohibition. The rich were drinking booze like nothing ever changed while poor were getting busted left and right.
/r/MensRights01/02/14 06:26 AM
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Welcome to the world of white social justice. That's when social justice becomes a tool for whites to divide power among themselves. For example to keep white women in the role of chief white victim the bull has to keep coming. White women aren't leading victim of society by any sensible measure. People ignore the racial angle a lot but we have to look at the hypocrisy of the same women who call out white men as privileged refusing to see themselves in the same light despite living in the same h…
/r/MensRights01/02/14 06:20 AM
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Feminist demand paternalism be made public policy. They want women's prisons that are nicer than men's or for women not to go to prison at all simply for being women. If women have some flaw in character the men in their lives are blamed.
/r/MensRights01/02/14 06:01 AM
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MRA's have been cleaning house from the start because people have been wrongly painting them as misogynists from the start. The man hating in feminism has been excused despite it's heroes proudly proclaiming contempt for men. So many women have built careers just by writing rants about how much they dislike men. Aren't there more important things for feminists and MRAs to be worried about? It's very important to self police because the risk of single gender advocacy turning into gender bashing i…
/r/MensRights01/02/14 05:49 AM
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I really don't want to join feminists in using the word oppression to describe petty nonsense like not being able to post at some obscure blog. It may be unfairness or injustice but it's hardly oppression. I don't feel either sex is 'oppressed' and I'd hate to see us turn into them. Men who are victims need to be respected as victims but I don't think we all need to be victims. That's the game feminists play to rope in insecure women in need of scapegoats for their personal problems. These women…
/r/MensRights01/02/14 05:42 AM
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Dershowitz also did a fine piece wives murdering their husbands in 1994 that coincided with a DOJ report that I recommend everyone read titled "murder in families".
/r/MensRights01/02/14 12:14 AM
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So true. This pragmatic basis for gender roles isn't tolerated by feminist thinkers. Essentially they are imposing a ideology that assumes men choosing to not use women as canon fodder on the countless battlefields in our many wars was some how idea a 'problematic' idea.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 03:06 AM
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I disagree because minority feminist have more vested interest in the welfare of their men than white feminist and exposing the pettiness of white feminist would be invaluable to Mra's trying to gain recognition for the seriousness facing men.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 02:27 AM
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Those classes are expensive and they don't give you your money back. He paid for his credits so he better get em.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 11:45 PM
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My personal favorite is to relabel the claims of female objectification into an attack on male sexuality. You can also point out gay men and women seem to have no problem with sexually objectifying men and the term objectification itself is dubious since sex is innately physical and treating the body as an object in space is a reasonable response to it's physical existence. If the mind was wired to be attracted to other human bodies who are they to declare that form of attraction off limits? Dem…
/r/MensRights30/01/14 11:41 PM
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That sounds dirty and since Men's Rights is a social justice project it's also hypocritical. People are free to do as they please but I'm still down with the whole honor and integrity thing even if the opposition is full of it.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 05:26 PM
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In first world countries women have it pretty good. But in the Middle East and most of Africa, women are treated like second class citizens at best, and property at worst. Forced arranged marriages to someone twice her age are the norm in many places. Arranged marriages aren't the problem, the issue your talking about is called 'forced marriage'. Arranged marriage allows for the right to refusal. In India a man who has sex with a women an refuses to marry her can be convicted of rape. It happens…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:49 PM
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There are plenty of non combat roles in the military. It wouldn't have been pointless. Where you and I disagree is that the draft isn't also sexist against women- the only reason women aren't drafted is because of a deep seated belief that women are inferior to men The only reason women weren't drafted is culturally we prioritize the protection of women and children above men. Women have been a protected class for a very long time. It's an issue of male disposablity or male paternalism, however …
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:17 PM
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Since women had no way to earn that privilege there was a fundamental equality issue.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:16 PM
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This is the law in Virginia: "§ 18.2-361 Crimes against nature A. If any person carnally knows in any manner any brute animal, or carnally knows any male or female person by the anus or by or with the mouth, or voluntarily submits to such carnal knowledge, he or she shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony, except as provided in subsection B. B. Any person who carnally knows by the anus or by or with the mouth his daughter or granddaughter, son or grandson, brother or sister, or father or mother shal…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:14 PM
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What about the fact you only talk about disadvantages for women in these social structures but speak nothing about the burdens it places on males? What about the current culture in the middle east? Are you well versed on middle eastern culture? It sounds like you are repeating the right wing war on terror propaganda. I'm certain you don't know how common these things are in these cultures nor the differences between the many cultures within the middle east. What about the fact that women weren't…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:12 PM
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I know there are plenty of statistics to counter this notion, but statistics must be replicable by anyone at any time in order to become fact. And the fact is men who are victims of sexism are in the minority. The statistics we reference are replicable and often consistent over long periods of time. You just don't know the stats because there is less need to post them when most people are in agreement on the issues. I'm happy you're a sympathizer but you ought to be more than that. Women do have…
/r/MensRights29/01/14 02:05 AM
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Feminism in general is militant. It's become even more radical in it's perspectives and approach as time has gone on because mainstream society has regarded their advocacy as unquestionable truth. The backlash against it's one sided victim narrative is true social justice and those who have hijacked it to promote their antipathy towards the male sex ought be challenged for holding those views.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 12:27 PM
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I know that due to my gender, I have been advantaged, as well as disadvantaged. Same here.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 01:42 PM
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I think if the modernist or structuralist were still on top then we'd see a lot more wisdom from academia instead of the presumptuous application of motives we've become accustomed to. Western/Eurocentric wisdom is better than none at all. The current posture seems to assume we can admire nothing about old works because someone was always oppressed by somebody. I think the real problem is you can't appreciate those works without making a real effort to relate to the oppressors as decent people w…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 01:41 PM
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The underlying message is if a friend shows romantic interest in you that you and is upset by being rejected you have the right to abuse them. I don't support that message.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 01:05 PM
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Women's social disadvantage was rooted in a presumption that men must care for and protect them from cradle to grave. It's a very different issue from being hated by the majority which is the issue these other groups faced. Conflating the two creates the problems we're seeing in feminism. This is why their forced to call men's sexual interest in women sexism/misogyny because men actually love women to a fault. Their gender role traditional and contemporary still revolves around pleasing women an…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 01:02 PM
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Women aren't minorities and if only minorities were complaining it wouldn't be a problem because they are MINORITIES! if a majority speaks as a minority and demands the same sort of deference their overwhelming numbers give then disproportionate influence where as minorities remain dependent of the majorities good will need that influence just to be heard.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 12:51 PM
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By god is that comment section one racist filled cesspool. I've never seen so many men trying to twist gender issue into an excuse to bash another race. The right needs to get their act together. Considering they are the only ones positioned to challenge the left on their extreme political correctness, they are not going to be credible if they justify those extremes with a base being that's so obsessed with demonstrating their racial hatred. The article itself was excellent.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 12:21 PM
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I'd say never agree with feminism unless it's right.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 10:49 AM
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Hitting the streets is definitely where we need to go but we need to get our resources and narrative together so we can have a compelling story to tell. AVFM has done a good job on formulating an approach but it's not the only one that I think would be viable since it's heavily male focused (rightly so) and a mainstream push should appear more humanistic in it's perspective.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 10:49 AM
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I think we need to get more liberals to support movement because the right sucks at social justice. The best way to do that is to focus on teaching everyone about the stats but challenging feminism and the narrative of feminism directly is the only way give people the courage to question it themselves. We must do more to highlight male vulnerability and break down myths of male power while demonstrating the realities of female power throughout history manifesting through men's desire to satisfy …
/r/MensRights27/01/14 10:45 AM
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I'd rather take issue with the man's narrative. Women haven't been oppressed for thousands of years. They were positioned in a gender role that minimized the risk they'd face in daily life while men were expected to risk their lives for them. This long history of oppression was in fact a long history of care, protection, and support. The mistake made by feminists is focusing on the top rather than the broad base of society. Male domination can be unjust to women but where such injustice exists t…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 10:32 AM
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Was either of us mistreated? Technically, no. But the conditions under which our presence was accepted were such that from the moment we entered the room, the other attendees’s preconceptions were at a distinct disadvantage. If you were not mistreated then STFU about it. What you do when you set this ultra high standard is demand special treatment that's not equality. Of course some men out of a large group might treat the rare women who shows up differently. Human sexuality is a thing that does…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 10:17 AM
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If having other people dictating who you were allowed to be sexually attracted too was ok then the LGBT community would be in real trouble. The hypocrisy is a problem for me so I consider sexual preferences a strictly personal matter. I recognize how we can elevate or degrade some category of people as viable sex partners through the media influence and such advocacy can alter peoples preferences but we are not entitled to another's sexual desire. People should take the SJW seriously as a threat…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 10:06 AM
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Men's feelings for women are capable of going beyond sex. People don't talk about love much these days but it happens.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 04:07 AM
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For both men and women, if someone doesnt isn't attracted to you, that's just how it is. Tell that to the fat feminists crying about body image issues because men don't want them. Of course nobody owes you attraction but people can be human. They are allowed to get upset about it. These women complaining about the friendzone are trying to put men down so they never have to deal with the guilt. If either one falls in love or like with the other the friend ought be compassionate about it. You don'…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 04:03 AM
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I see little girls trying to play big girl games. Relationships with the opposite come with the risk that one or the other will become romantically interested or even attached. Grown ups can deal with reality while little girls need to preemptively blame men for all their problems. It's up to men to dismiss women who don't respect men as people. If men keep enabling women with self centered views of human relationships they'll never hear the end of it.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 03:58 AM
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Write a letter. Focus on the 13% reporting rate which contradicts the 1 in 5 stat.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 03:50 AM
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I see you are having a hard time consorting with the right wingers but it's even harder when that liberal chip on your shoulder is weighing you down. The left does a lot better job running social justice but it's prone to it's own conspiracy theories and blame games. The patriarchy is a basis for conspiracy theories that fuel feminism. It assumes women have/had little or no agency and men are operating a vast cabal to undermine women. The Elam/Red pill world rejects that perspective. They see th…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 12:07 AM
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As for talking down to the left, mostly I do that because many people on the left need it desperately. Now you need it too because that's what happens when you advocate for a identity group. The messy factionalism of identity policies was inevitable once one we started granting or denying rights based peoples innate identity. I hope us humans learned our lesson but I doubt it.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 11:42 PM
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There aren't even accurate stats on sex trafficked women in the United States. This is one of those situations where you have to cherry pick a few stats that include men and use it to draw a picture of the world, but as a person of integrity you ought explain you do not have the complete picture.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 06:06 PM
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You mean the same white women who've been dissing white men like it's going out of style? Why are you race baiting?
/r/MensRights26/01/14 09:20 AM
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It's funny that you talk about prohibition like we don't have drug prohibition right now with even more disastrous consequences. Prohibition was a women driven movement and I think it tells us feminists had more gender power than they are willing to admit.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 06:37 AM
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If minorities didn't live with the majority (oppressor) in the society then they wouldn't be minorities in the first place. Women's issues today are for the most part bull shit dreamed up by women looking for clever ways to manipulate the men around them. You are one of those men. Race is a far more significant issue statistically but it gets little attention because their is little interest in one race looking to advance the other. Men and women on the other hand love each other. They form fami…
/r/MensRights26/01/14 04:36 AM
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The main link didn't go to the video. That's a shame. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMV-C2gfv30
/r/MensRights24/01/14 04:30 PM
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I'm pretty sure one of our goals is to make men into an interest group worth pandering to, so where exactly is your logic going to get us? He was lame duck because of record breaking right wing obstructionism. They aren't fighting for men and boys so why are you talking down to those on the left?
/r/MensRights23/01/14 01:55 AM
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Take your red baiting elsewhere. You want to call liberals stupid but your party isn't doing a damn thing for men and boys. They pander to women just the same except with more traditionalist B.S to cover their behinds. Neither party supports Men's Rights or Men's issues.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 01:52 AM
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Basically he wants to intimidate young men into being even more deferential towards women than they already are... these white knight politics need to stop. We ought condemn him for caring so little for men and boys that he pushes a report that artificially reduced number of male victims despite the many studies showing male victims making up about 1/3 of campus sexual assaults.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 01:50 AM
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Let me guess. You are worried about upsetting people and causing offense. That's par for the course. I'll give you a proper example of right wing social justice which is the anti abortion movement. It isn't popular but it works. Men's rights is not a left wing cause nor a right wing cause so I encourage you to think outside the box. Neither of the two leading political ideologies wants this and but men need it. Focus on making them happy and appealing to their sense of self worth. Pandering to w…
/r/MensRights21/01/14 10:32 PM
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But feminism isnt anti men. It is about smashing tradition European values and culture. I call bull on that one. Feminism is anti male not anti European male. What you need to understand is in america its dominated by white women trying to maintain their power over white men. Just like in a abusive relationship the men are softened with attacks on their self esteem. Because culturally men are expected to serve women by provision men frantically go about providing the ends they seek. White men ha…
/r/MensRights21/01/14 01:24 AM
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I admire the effort and you can win this debate. She's already proven her ignorance by pulling a 'privilege check' on such a simple challenge. At the least she could have run the cliche 'patriarchy hurts men too'. The fact is the story has heroic female lead in a time when few stories were about women (I'm assuming you should know). You have to use their own dogma against them while emphasizing male humanity and equality. Reject what she claims are you privileges and re label the obligations. Th…
/r/MensRights21/01/14 01:08 AM
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A fine example of how the calling out of white males has gone too far. Why is there even a racial angle to the definition of rape? Are non white men some how qualified to define rape or is it assumed they never do so? Either way the writer has gotten drunk on some pretty toxic Kool Aid.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 01:19 PM
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My respect for conservative thought has increased as I've grown older but I'm still a liberal. Both factions need to be questioned, compared, and the best way forward will probably be a mix of both. It's strange that after centuries of political bickering people still reject the need for competing ideologies as a way to find balance. They think it's about eliminating all rivals when the rivalry itself is what keeps them on the right track.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:04 PM
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That's not even close to funny. Don't sink to their level of discourse.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 09:57 PM
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I really have no idea what Stop and Frisk study you read. It was clearly about black and Hispanic males being harassed in poorer communities whose reasonable suspicion based stops were wrong 90% of the time and even that 10% was dubious when only 1 in 1000 were found with weapons(supposedly the reason for stop and frisk).
/r/MensRights18/01/14 09:15 PM
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BECAUSE IF YOU TRULY SEE WOMEN AS EQUALS THEN WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD AT MAKING THEM NOT FEEL LIKE EQUALS? If you thought the were equals you wouldn't coddle them like children the way you do. Do you really think the rest of these men don't share the same compulsion to please women in every way possible? We most certainly do and most of us love the women in our lives. What separates us from you is the willingness to actually see the pain of men and boys as something real and relevant. Your myopic fo…
/r/MensRights18/01/14 09:12 PM
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I'll be honest. I treat the racial issue within feminism as a opportunity to call out the self serving hypocrisy of the white women who lead it. That said even if they saw fit to disproportionately incorporate women of color into high profile roles we'd probably see women who are as privileged as the ones they are replacing. It's the same thing when you swap a man for a women. The only real change would come is if poor of all races were seen as the leading voices. I don't understand why people w…
/r/MensRights18/01/14 09:03 PM
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The New Republic and other publications need to stop letting feminist use their good names to trash anyone who questions their self serving madness.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 04:42 AM
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Suicide kills 40,000 people a year versus about 15,000 who die of homicide. Suicide should be a bigger issue but perhaps it's not getting attention because it's primarily a men's issue.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 12:13 AM
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Native peoples are the only group competing with blacks for the tittle of worst off race in America. Their male on male homicide rates are similarly high but blacks have a much lower suicide rate than Natives and Whites. On a side note they had/have the only group of women who are more likely to be raped by men outside their race (70%) because prior to the last VAWA only federal courts could prosecute rape instead of the more accessible tribal courts. That correction in VAWA was good but it shou…
/r/MensRights18/01/14 12:12 AM
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Since we support gender equality rather than unlimited religious rights that extend to selective gender segregation in any place of your choosing I think for argument sake we'd come down on the side of encouraging sex tolerance across the board. On the other hand MRA's support male spaces and feminist female (safe) spaces. The classroom is not a sensible place to implement this sort of segregation unless the school itself is segregated by gender.
/r/MensRights17/01/14 05:14 PM
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The reaction in the comments shows all MRA's need do is get the truth out. This study is old news but it never made big news because of the gender bias in the culture. It's as if the media has taken it upon themselves to protect peoples illusions.
/r/MensRights17/01/14 04:34 PM
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It's hard to challenge any law if those fighting for it can convince people it's good for women and or children.
/r/MensRights17/01/14 12:58 AM
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I'm still mad A Voice for Men isn't really a open forum. I don't like echo chambers but some people think the are necessary. Liberals used to be fun people with open minds but the hive mind took over and now they might as well be fundamentalist. :( Probably going to get a lot of downvotes for this, but maybe sometime soon MRAs and Feminists should acknowledge they have an image problem and not hate on each other so much? Just seems counter intuitive is all. MRA's have only been recognized by fem…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 02:35 AM
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IMO egalitarians's are no threat to MRA's but they are a threat to feminists.
/r/MensRights15/01/14 02:27 AM
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Well I guess the issues is do you agree with the MRA perspective or do you support the feminist one. Both claim to be inclusive of both sexes but focused on one. Which one do you think approaches issues between the sexes in the fairest way?
/r/MensRights15/01/14 02:26 AM
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No that kind of legislation is about getting white votes for whatever candidate race baits whites. Nome had it right. You can even look at the NYC mayoral election where the white favored candidate race baited whites with talk of crime while the progressive sold people on a kinder gentler law enforcement. If you know anything about stop and frisk you'd know white people didn't have to worry very much but black men certainly did. Of course we can go way back to Willie Horton, or the prohibition o…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 02:22 AM
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You have to treat women like grown ups which means you don't assume attacking the male power structure is some benign intervention in which women will always be fair and just in their dealings with men. Feminists and traditionalists men tend to see women as benign non threats. Men who actually see women as equals know they can be just as bad as the worst men. Feminism isn't the business of nice women. I would no more have a rabid anti women MRA head up the cause of gender equality than I would t…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 02:13 AM
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Obviously white men have had the balance tipped towards them for several centuries. The things that upset me are when the solutions for "balance" is to just tip it the other way. White men and women have been sharing resources from the start so claiming men have had things tipped in favor of them is a bit misleading. There were gender roles that were unequal but IMO men's crappy roles were worse than women's. Taking care of your own children, and domestic work is not worse than being raised from…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 01:59 AM
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I got banned with my trademark white women of privilege hijacking social justice rant. These liberals ain't ready to take it there but someone has to tell these people their victim cred is joke. They live good and bandwagon so they can feel morally superior. It's about improving their social standing not correcting power imbalance. If that were the case they'd insist half of all writers in feminists publications be non white. I dare them to live it. I dare em.
/r/MensRights15/01/14 01:30 AM
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Women are wonderful! See I'm not banned :)
/r/MensRights15/01/14 01:04 AM
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if they were good, decent women they'd stay home and let their men provide for them instead of "exploiting" child care providers. Men working = virtuous and necessary. Women working = selfish and exploitative and enriching the 1%. Got it. Yes that is how feminists like to see men suggesting that people care for their own children instead of handing them off to strangers and insisting the state pay those strangers so they can work. The man can stay home and the women can support him. They can alt…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 12:56 AM
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Your economic plan sounds like neo-liberalism. Focusing on increasing demand instead of quality of life is how we got into the mess we are in. If everyone is working no one has time to do the non paying work that was so vital in our communities. The community building part is really important to quality of life. Other than that greater demand tends to reward the richest, more so than the work force. Stagnant wages are a problem weather demand is up or down. One other fact, apparently only 1/3 of…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 12:53 AM
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Trickle down didn't work so why are you calling it a highly successful concept? You must be looking at GDP instead of wages. Wealth multiplies itself for those who have it. It does not trickle down because the goal of the wealthy is to keep as much of that wealth as possible. It was unions that forced the wealthy to pay more. With those out the way we've seen wage stagnation since the 1970's that wasn't helped by a massive influx of women into the workforce. Occupy Wall Street at least stood up …
/r/MensRights13/01/14 06:05 PM
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A enormous increase in workers is also known to drive down wages. You keep leaving that part out.
/r/MensRights13/01/14 06:03 PM
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So yeah, historically, "putting women first" had a positive impact on men, as significant economic growth tends to raise everyone up, if not at the same rate. Doubling the work force in a short period of time drove down wages, increased competition among the dis-empowered work force to do more for less and made us all poorer in the process. "Over the last couple of centuries there has been a steady increase in wages for both unskilled workers and production workers. A lot of this growth is a res…
/r/MensRights13/01/14 05:56 PM
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I think history serves as a fine example of what white's embracing tribalism would likely do. The rise of white solidarity is a standing threat to minorities in America because when whites had it they used it to justify oppressing/excluding minorities.
/r/MensRights13/01/14 06:42 AM
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one of the ways we as a society overcompensate for the follies of society's past actually only serves to retard the advance of social justice This is only a serious problem when it comes to white women complaining about white men. Even though white men have been caring for and supporting white women throughout history, feminism has spun a narrative in which all that love, and kindness is imagined as brutal unrelenting oppression by people who weren't around to see it for themselves. Social justi…
/r/MensRights13/01/14 01:19 AM
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White women can say anything they like about white men because it's unlikely white men will ever hold them accountable for it. Actual minorities on the other hand aren't so complacent about their standing with the majority.
/r/MensRights12/01/14 08:43 AM
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Mens rights is by nature a social justice movement.
/r/MensRights12/01/14 08:37 AM
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That kind of shallow bigotry is what you get by negotiating with women who simply get off on putting men down anyway they can. Even Malcolm X moved beyond holding whites in utter contempt as did MLK and Nelson Mandela. It's a minority of white woman who feel there is plenty more to be gained by making their brothers, husband's, and fathers into pariahs to be scorned by the society they help sustain. Of course this is how feminist regard their men in any nation. Holding men in contempt is a effec…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 08:35 AM
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A white man can feel powerless at a job where he works for minimum wage to pay child support for children he can't see. He can feel powerless when he loses that job and faces prison as a consequence for not making those payments. He can feel powerless when his new girlfriend decides slapping him around is a proper way to keep her man in check. White men are just men and men aren't inherently powerful. Ironically it's the influence of white woman engaged in social justice that are pushing the ant…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 08:21 AM
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What you want to do is play with some stereotypes so you can draw vast conclusions about large groups. This isn't that hard when we deal with males and females because the gender roles are well defined. On issues like race and sexuality we are dealing with widely varying individual prejudices that are far less uniform in this day and age. The black male as threat narrative is pretty solid but so is the male as threat narrative it inherits from. We already taking on the male as threat narrative s…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 06:18 PM
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White supremacy is a real problem when it rears it's ugly head and tribalistic behavior by white nationalist lead to hundreds of years of racial oppression. Let's not play dumb here. I'm all for getting off the PC train but whites forming an alliance against the other races isn't a new idea and when it was done the results were horrific. Please take the white supremacist stuff elsewhere. People should not be posting it nor making excuses for it.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 06:01 PM
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I don't need the MRM, but dammit you need men like me. The MRM actually needs men who will open up about their pain so we can elicit sympathy from men and women for men and boys. The stoic man takes pride in not needing that sympathy. He's the traditionalist telling other men to man up while we are trying to convince others that they ought to feel compassion for a hurting man. So I suggest you use that stoicism to gather those stories of hurting men and deliver them where they are needed. If you…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 05:56 PM
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" I'm concerned we may sometimes encourage weakness in the MRM." There was a exellent video by Alison Tieman on the subject of women using the appearance of lacking agency as a source of power. Men have to learn how to do the same at least so that we can elevate the pain and suffering of men to the same level of women's. We need more stories of men suffering at the hands of women not less, and the fact that men suffer is not proof they are weak, it's proof they are human. Men don't always have a…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 05:49 PM
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My boyfriend has become a victim of abominable gender inequality, and so now I'm a MRA, and believe in equality above all else. Men need support for their rights too! We're happy to have you posting here and fighting on behalf of men and boys living in fear of upsetting any women they are close to they might use the legal system to abuse them. Your boyfriend is being formally charged with rape which is one of the hardest crimes to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Women who have been raped have e…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 05:22 PM
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Feminism is sexist in that it's primarily focused on controlling all male behavior for the benefit of women. Men being free to be who they want comes second to whether or not men's behavior and or rights are seen as beneficial to women. Simultaneously feminists are demanding absolute freedom for women along with freedom from judgment. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Feminists have been in the business of abusing power for a long time.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 07:21 PM
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We don't need to bother with the use "Intersections" because men's issues are men's issues regardless of the race, sexuality, or even gender of the male sexed people affected. Playing with the intersectionality concept is really a bunch of intellectual masturbation. In nearly all significant circumstances we can find a continuum of impact across racial groups whenever a unfair policy is implemented in the society. The proportion of impact tends to weigh more heavily on some than others but the s…
/r/MensRights10/01/14 06:56 PM
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"Then she asked me if I considered myself a white nationalist. I told her, “no,” but added that I support white nationalists because I’m a tribalist. I think all people should be more tribal, and whites should be able to have a tribe if some of them want to. I told her I would speak at a Native American conference if they asked me to." WTF? Seriously...
/r/MensRights10/01/14 02:20 AM
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Poverty rate between the sexes: "The poverty rate for males decreased between 2010 and 2011, from 14.0 percent to 13.6 percent, while the poverty rate for females was 16.3 percent, not statistically different from the 2010 estimate." http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/income_wealth/cb12-172.html The gap in the poverty rate isn't large enough to be an issue especailly when having children in your custody drives you into poverty under these stats. Even though child support is include…
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:48 PM
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I think men were denied the opportunity to approach problems between each other through compassion for men instead of fear and rejection of them. We're getting a chance to relate on a deeper level without having to take instruction from our 'betters'. Some how we've managed to combine races, religions, nationalities, class levels, and sexuality without resorting to some elaborate and ultimately divisive pandering schemes that privilege some over others. It's equality without the qualifiers, PC e…
/r/MensRights08/01/14 12:37 PM
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"I have NEVER seen Men’s Rights Activists campaign to end the social stigma around black fatherhood." What is the social stigma surrounding black fatherhood? Well let me think... Could it be something like: AVFM Black man’s burden: myth of the deadbeat You’ve heard the rumors, for they are everywhere, and although unproven, they still resonate as “facts” throughout much of American society. The untruth that Black men don’t want to care for their children has become a staple in American folklore.…
/r/MensRights08/01/14 12:17 PM
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I'm happy there even better reason to raise the issue of mass incarceration in this country. With stats like this it's pretty hard to argue that it's not of significance to all races. Of course it is black males who are impacted more than any other group in total numbers as well as disparities relative to their total population. This was posted r/mensrights last month. http://www.sentencingproject.org/template/page.cfm?id=122 1 in 3 black men, 1 in 6 latino men, 1 in 17 white men: will go to pri…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 05:21 AM
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Notice that the offer is only for women and not ethnic minorities(non Asian) who are even less represented in tech? This is how feminism hurts these groups by making social justice all about helping a group of people (mostly white women) men already like helping. It makes it a uphill battle to do anything for struggling PoC or men of any race for that matter. The feminists version of social justice throws minority males under the bus. Enrollment in computer science programs has grown by 10 perce…
/r/MensRights04/01/14 08:55 PM
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''The preferences we see [at five months] have nothing to do with biology,'' she said. ''Social pressures, parents, other people guide children to like things that are specific to their sex.'' The study stops at 5 months making the conclusions in the headline is bogus. It should say little babies prefer dolls to trucks. They also like rattles, pacifiers, and their blanket. What does the toy preference of children who can't even walk tell us? They take what we give them because they can't get to …
/r/MensRights04/01/14 08:47 PM
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The whole NAFALT approach wreaks of benevolent sexism. We are attacking the main positions held by feminists not some off beat extremist views held by radicals. If it's being used to set public policy then it's mainstream. If it leads to laws being passed it's mainstream. We don't have to kill ourselves splitting hairs as if we got this far by befriending feminists allies. If we can't get people to question feminists and feminism then we have lost. That's what matters. In regard to the poll we s…
/r/MensRights04/01/14 08:31 PM
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The fact he's a comedian makes helps people swallow a hard truth they've been taught to deny. He did an excellent job which required he fly all over the world to meet with scholars and scientists.
/r/MensRights04/01/14 08:09 PM
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We are not living in the 1960's. Affirmative action for women would make sense if there was evidence of systematic discrimination. In the vast majority of the cases that's not there. The historic oppression excuse has it's limits. Women as a group aren't hated. In fact if anything men have proven very weak willed when forced to choose between their self interest and that of women. If someone must die they'd rather it be a man. If someone must suffer they'd rather it be a man. This pattern extend…
/r/MensRights04/01/14 08:06 PM
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I am one of those guys who does not wish to generalize feminists and their views. If you can't presume feminists to be in support of the most popular and heavily promoted feminists narratives being used to set public policy then it would be impossible to hold them accountable for promoting those narratives. We must generalize to some degree in order to assign blame to those promoting it. MRA's have a problem with the ideas themselves. Trying to make good feminists feel better when for several de…
/r/MensRights04/01/14 07:59 PM
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I guess when it comes down to it, I do not feel in anyway disadvantaged steming from me being a man. No one has ever discriminated against me for being male. Ok well we do have men who have had those experiences and if you are only interested in being obnoxiously self centered that's your business. I know I'm not fighting for myself here. I don't have father's rights issues. I don't fear being falsely accused. I don't suffer abuse at the hands of intimate partners but I get that many men do and …
/r/MensRights04/01/14 06:17 AM
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Check out IntegralMath on Youtube. He's a gay MRA and he does excellent work. http://www.youtube.com/user/integralmath
/r/MensRights04/01/14 03:56 AM
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I think your right. We have to give men a chance to redeem themselves because we all know what their up against. Declaring yourself pro MRA after playing the role of feminists writer could be a career ending act. I'm fine with men playing the fence so long as they don't abandon the actual issues. It's on MRA's to suck up the stream of hate coming from feminists while egalitarians and good feminists push our issues into the mainstream. Fortunately not everyone is willing to throw half of humanity…
/r/MensRights04/01/14 03:02 AM
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Either way I hope he wises up and stops playing their game. Too many men have taken this sort of abuse for far too long or at the least lived in fear of it. The pursuit of gender equality in the hands of feminists has primarily become a means of controlling men through threat or act of abuse. Declare men alone the root of all evil or suffer their scorn.
/r/MensRights04/01/14 02:55 AM
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The thing about 'men' is the term includes minorities.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 11:34 PM
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Until you take into account intersecting forms of oppression, your attempts to be compassionate towards men and boys will be unhelpful at best and highly detrimental at worst. The intersectional approach was how white feminists went about co-opting the struggles of other groups with more compelling issues. It was about expanding their power and reach. It made feminism and feminists a greater force. It's the rough equivalent of social justice colonialism and issue appropriation as if it were cult…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 10:53 PM
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That bait and switch they pulled on gay men was a particularly nasty one. They took the struggles of severely oppressed men and made them all about women. Of course these were the same women who said misandry didn't exists just so they could freely engage in it. Men rejecting feminine traits in men wasn't out of men hating women but men's social role demanding they serve women in a masculine capacity. Feminists ignore the outright hostility women had for gay men in our culture. The 'down low bro…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 09:21 PM
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The basic message was I'm a girl, I'm special, men must coddle me like a child.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 09:05 PM
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The comparison between the two has been the greatest racial betrayal by white feminists I've seen. It's hard for people to understand the depth of the immorality until you look at the stats between the groups. When you take a far poorer and more disadvantaged groups suffering and use it to advance a group that's far better off who already has a natural advantage in seeking compassion time and again you undermine the worse off group to help the better off one. Now when we think about the 'oppress…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 09:03 PM
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I have a serious problems with these primarily white SJW's comparing the plight of privileged women to that of black people in America past or present. Boomer whites knew darn well how deep that difference was because they saw how pervasive nature of racism in America. Getting white women acceptance for role shifting from white men was a cake walk compared to eliciting compassion for other racial groups whom for hundreds of years been deemed so sub human that even socializing with them could lea…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 08:48 PM
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Raw Story which is also the home of Pandagon their feminist hub has always been anti men's rights. It's a fine example of privileged white liberals gone over the deep end with self righteous posturing. It's quite the intolerant bunch when it comes to free thought. Group think rules there with an iron fist.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 07:38 PM
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The probability of a actual rape or false accusation fairly low. Let's say we take the studies seriously which end up roping in a whole lot of non victims. Even then in a given year a given man or women would have a 1% chance of being victimized. If you focus on a college age population that jumps to 5%. If you avoid drunken sex you've mitigated 80% of your risk as a female and even more than that as a male. Now let's consider the risk of rape accusations. The only kind with good numbers are the…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 07:19 PM
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his views on men and woman were consistant with views that alot of MRAs have. A lot of MRA's do not think like a 1940's German man with plans of world domination. The average MRA wants to see his kids, be treated fairly in life, and respected as a human being. He recognizes there are gender differences which explains gender disparities better than a hypothesis of gender being purely social but he doesn't assume women are just for making babies. I think your comment is insulting to MRA's and is a…
/r/MensRights02/01/14 06:50 PM
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Great info here from a unlikely source. It was posted a few weeks ago. http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013/09/04/the-startling-facts-on-female-sexual-aggression/
/r/MensRights02/01/14 06:47 AM
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"why can't we have a subreddit which actually tries to solve inequality by looking at the problems of men and women" That's because it would become a feminists forum by default. If you haven't noticed feminists have been claiming they were doing just that but in reality you've seen that they favor women over men. MRA's expose feminists hypocrisy while raising awareness about men's issues. The issue of inequality isn't really the issue. People have problems and those peoples problems need attenti…
/r/MensRights02/01/14 05:57 AM
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The MRM movement is about issues we shouldn't have ever ignored in the first place. The fact men even care to care about other men seems like a revolutionary act today because men tend to favor women and that's what you're doing now. Being the white knight makes men feel good about themselves and I get it but notice that you darn near went after the MRM itself to it. Will we sacrifice ten men to protect the honor of one women? That's white knighting. Indian culture is a traditionalist mess but t…
/r/MensRights30/12/13 02:29 PM
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Trans aren't the center of the damn universe and that goes for everybody. MRA's shouldn't have to beg you or anyone to support compassion for men and boys. That's not suddenly going to become centered on trans issues, gay issues, black issues, Hispanic issues, or any of the identity politics victim of the week. It's MEN. The whole lot moving from big issues to small ones. Focusing on trans men would be like narrowing focus to disabled war vets instead of confronting massive gender gap in higher …
/r/MensRights30/12/13 02:16 PM
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The thing is that's better dealt with as a male issue in general because then we can help everyone. The divisive approach of singling out every sub group isn't helpful when we're trying to get men in general compassion rather than just gay men or black men. That game ends up pitting various groups of men against each other when we need a unified front.
/r/MensRights30/12/13 07:00 AM
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