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| 1 | A baby born yesterday already knows it's over for youyou can at the very least put effort into being physically in good shape Physical fitness doesn't matter much. What matters is to not being over- or underweight, and not having physical deformities (like pectus excavatum or bowleg). Natural frame is more important than fitness. Face > height > hair > frame >>> fitness you can work on your social skills You can only work on your social skills if you have the basics and normal early life experiences. If you don't have those things you'll be so far… | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/07/24 06:25 PM |
| 1 | A baby born yesterday already knows it's over for youWork on the part of yourself that make you more attractive. There no gym for your genes. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/07/24 05:50 PM |
| 1 | A baby born yesterday already knows it's over for youDude, unattractive people also don't find other unattractive people attractive. They have terrible relationships full of resentment and abuse, they're just together because of social pressure and because it beats total loneliness. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/07/24 03:54 PM |
| -1 | To improve society, we must focus on helping both genders instead of hating one.well, i can guess I learned something today too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 12:07 AM |
| – | Gay men love men more than women doLove is just overexplained horniness + time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 11:25 PM |
| – | Gay men love men more than women doI doubt there really is such a thing as the stereotypical romantic love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 11:21 PM |
| 0 | To improve society, we must focus on helping both genders instead of hating one.budget cuts You can blame conservatives in some ways, but the budget is not the issue. The US spends more per student than almost any other place on the planet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Why do people say Tinder doesn’t work? It’s just an interface that mirrors real life dating preferencesWe have quirks and eccentricities that make us who we are. Those things are also largely determined by your genetic potential. They're not really different from height or hair patterns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 08:25 PM |
| -3 | To improve society, we must focus on helping both genders instead of hating one.That's anime crap, right? You're probably referencing a specific show or movie, but I never watched anime, so I have no idea what it is that you're actually referencing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 08:15 PM |
| 0 | To improve society, we must focus on helping both genders instead of hating one.Neither really needs help. We're just living in proper freedom, so for the fist time ever, women are allowed to make real choices about who they're with. It's just that 80% of men are not good enough for breeding, and women know (and always known) this, so they don't actually want to be with them, thus the monogamy delusion is breaking (it's always been an unnatural way for humans to breed, it just that it resulted in stable societies so far, so it was kept around). We'll do better once we trans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 08:08 PM |
| 18 | Why don't women with low-esteem ever go for unattractive men?Yep, physically unattractive men tend to be worse at other things too. Just look at mugshots, most of them are pretty ugly. Maybe it's just that these are all manifestations of their low genetic quality, or maybe they're treated worse due to their lack of attractiveness and thus are more likely to engage in antisocial behavior, I don't know which one it is, but the correlation is there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Getting hobbies is useless advice for dating.Meaningless question for truly abnormal people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:01 AM |
| 3 | Getting hobbies is useless advice for dating.When you're low enough on the totem pole, it doesn't matter who you hate or don't hate, people will view you as trash either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:55 AM |
| 3 | Getting hobbies is useless advice for dating.Unless you're Schizoid, the core of your self worth will come from how society views you. Romantic success is a big part of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:45 AM |
| 7 | Getting hobbies is useless advice for dating.Exactly. Most people don't have real hobbies, they just watch Netflix and listen to random new music, and they do fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Self-improvement is a scamNothing. Also, i sleep like 3-4 hours every couple of days at random times, I don't really "wake up" in the traditional sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 04:12 AM |
| 3 | Self-improvement is a scamThis is delusional. Once you take away the end result, the process will be useless for most. Sex is the #1 motivation for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 04:07 AM |
| 3 | Self-improvement is a scamUnless you’re disabled or severely mentally ill Exaaaactly. I'm talking about the people for whom it doesn't make a lick of difference how hard they work on these things. Some people are just fundamentally garbage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:08 AM |
| 4 | Self-improvement is a scamThey have every right to complain about anything they wish to. It's like saying that someone without legs isn't allowed to complain about not being able to walk. If anything, these people have the most right to complain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:03 AM |
| 3 | Self-improvement is a scamFor the majority of men, "getting your dick wet", is the definition of "personal gain". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Self-improvement is a scamNormal people are so funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:56 AM |
| 4 | Self-improvement is a scamstay at home, avoid talking to people, remain unemployed and uneducated, and do nothing For some people, that's the overwhelmingly better option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:55 AM |
| 3 | Self-improvement is a scamBecause shit like "what do you wake up excited for" is for normal people. For truly abnormal people, it's meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:52 AM |
| 3 | Self-improvement is a scamA guy in shape and with his shit together has better odds of getting women than an overweight NEET The problem is that y'all think "self-improvement" is the difference, but that's not it. The real difference is genetics and early life experiences putting someone on the right track. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:49 AM |
| 3 | Self-improvement is a scamWhat's important to realize is that the average person doesn't do any actual self-improvement. They merely * think* that they do. They just do random stuff, fumble around, and land fine because they're normal. But they want to brag, and their ego comes up with this delusion about how much work they put in. But they didn't, they just stumbled into things. This is why the advice they give to truly abnormal people doesn't work. Because they don't understand this very dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Women have hobbies.I'm always baffled by people who have hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Navigating the Modern Dating Market: The Uncomfortable Truth About Looks in 2023I'm getting real tired of the austim argument from you pill doomers. 70% of people with autism never date, at any given time only 15% are in relationships (compared to ~70% of the general public). Source People with autism might have an employment rate as low as ~20%. Source “an important investigation of over 27,000 Swedish people diagnosed with ASD which revealed that the average life expectancy among the people studied with severe autism is 39.5 years, rising to only 58 years for those with h… | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/11/23 07:58 AM |
| 1 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?There's plenty wrong with being truly weird. It's a handicap in school, in employment, in dating, in finding friends. It's the one thing you should never ever be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 07:40 AM |
| 1 | Navigating the Modern Dating Market: The Uncomfortable Truth About Looks in 2023social skills like any other skill can be trained Not practically if you miss the basics. If you can't replicate the most basic normal social behaviors, nobody will engage you, therefore you won't get better. Only with specialized training is this possible, and those are not available to most people. Most people who struggle with it have one bad experience and then give up so they never put in the reps. This is a strawman you came up with. You don't actually know this. Most smooth talkers who kn… | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/11/23 07:06 AM |
| 3 | SEAmaxxing isn’t as simple as passport bros make it soundA "poor" man in the US is still very well off compared to many parts of the world. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/11/23 02:34 AM |
| 3 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?Conspiracy? No. People just like to feel good about themselves and their awesome opinions. In reality, guys like these are creepy, and the reason why the word "the ick" exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:20 AM |
| 1 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?I suspect they are also more emotionally intelligent than average so its not like they are making a ton of mistakes anyway oh that's funny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:18 AM |
| 2 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?Most accurate comment here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:17 AM |
| 1 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?We met at a bookstore. Our first conversation was mostly small talk. Normal people's abilities will never not baffle me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:15 AM |
| 5 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?a little sus The shit you guys tell yourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:14 AM |
| 3 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?Yeah, people like signaling their virtue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:12 AM |
| 2 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?Why weren't you able to get someone better and more desirable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:28 PM |
| 1 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?Nah, normal people have tons of others they're compatible with. You'd have to be pretty weird for that to be untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:25 PM |
| 2 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?Your husband is weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:23 PM |
| 5 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?There is no "the" right person. There are many right persons, the fact the somebody couldn't even one of those by 25, is a baaaad sign. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 03:33 PM |
| 2 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?Not if you never found anyone else either by that age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 03:18 PM |
| 10 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?By the time you're in your 20s, you need to posses certain social abilities, which if you don't have, nobody will engage you, thus you won't learn. At that point pretty much only specialized training can help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 02:20 PM |
| 3 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?So, if he wasn’t those things by 25 he would have found a relationship by 25. There are of course exceptions, but generally, yeah. So, him get a relationship determines whether or not he is attractive enough to get one? Not "determines", it's just a consequence. If you're a normal person, not asexual, and not horrendously unattractive, you'll lose your virginity by the age of 25 99% of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 02:18 PM |
| 9 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?The difference is that those senior citizens who start relationships can replicate the necessary social behaviors that result in the relationship. If you reach 25-30 with no experience, you most likely lack said ability in the first place, and most likely it's going to be too late to gain it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 02:12 PM |
| 5 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?Then he's highly unlikely to be inexperienced by that age. He would have found someone just with the normal course of his life through school or work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 02:02 PM |
| 8 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?For example: Being really fucking ugly, and/or being severely socially handicapped, and/or being chronically unemployed and having no income. Things like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 01:56 PM |
| 4 | If you never had a relationship by 24, it too late to ever? And why?That's the exception. Most guys who reach that age with no experience are fundamentally unattractive, even if they weren't technically inexperienced, they'd be rejected for those reasons that make them unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 01:40 PM |
| 10 | Things will never change and I think people need to accept thatMost people with autism still function very well in society and have normal lives and relationships This is not true, and obvious confirmation bias. You don't see the ones who don't. 70% of people with autism never date, at any given time only 15% are in relationships (compared to ~70% of the general public). Source People with autism might have an employment rate as low as ~20%. Source “an important investigation of over 27,000 Swedish people diagnosed with ASD which revealed that the average l… | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 12:08 PM |
| 7 | Things will never change and I think people need to accept thatMost people with autism, for example, are incapable of most normal human social behaviors. As are most people with severe social anxiety. Regardless of psychical disability. And with these people, you'll interact with them for 10 seconds, they will creep you the fuck out, and in five minutes you'll forget they ever existed, and move onto your normal interactions. But for those people, the only interactions they will get are all like this, they won't be able to replicate normal behavior. Guys tha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 11:55 AM |
| 7 | Things will never change and I think people need to accept thatAnyone incapable of replicating normal human social behaviors <-- that's true abnormal. And you don't have empathy towards them, you're creeped out by them. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 11:39 AM |
| 7 | Things will never change and I think people need to accept thatThat's because you're normal, and are around normal people, as peers. However, you won't be able to do that with truly abnormal people. Pity? Maybe? Empathy? Nah, that's reserved to other normal people. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 11:36 AM |
| 9 | Incels should not pay any taxes that support women.For this to matter, I would have needed to pay tax in the first place lol | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Navigating the Modern Dating Market: The Uncomfortable Truth About Looks in 2023You still require the right basic socialization for this. That's not something you can learn later in life. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 05:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.There's a difference between people who choose to not date, and people who can't. The latter are trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 12:44 AM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.naive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 12:22 AM |
| 7 | It's overMonogamy is cultural, harem breeding is natural for humans. TBH, still, I don't see culture changing away from the current one too much, if 90% of men truly never had a chance, there would be chaos and collapse. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 09:27 PM |
| 1 | The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense.Who said anything about "pumping out kids"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense.i find socializing difficult ... and normal people don't, not consistently, only occasionally, in certain settings. If you can't do that, find professional help. This has become a kind of dismissive blanket advice, but there are a couple problems with it. For one, this "professional help" is simply not available enough to most people currently alive on this planet, and two, for many conditions treatment success rates are low (for example the majority of people with severe social anxiety never ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Women are only interested in top menWell, the people who end up in these spaces usually aren't just "shy and terrified by potential rejection". There's almost always other stuff behind this, autism, SAD, AvPD, etc... | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:25 PM |
| 3 | I knOw a GuY WhO'S 4'11 baLdInG inDiAn WhO gEts GiRlSbecause they don't socialise at all. Just because someone can't socialise, that doesn't mean they can't make observations. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:24 PM |
| 1 | The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense.Wow? Really?! What a revelation! (I don't recommend looking up the rate of success for this "profession help" tho lol) Also, "Socializing is difficult for most people" is not true. Most people just do it as routine, they just kinda exist and do basic normal things, and that's it. Dating and friendships are not consistently "difficult" for normal people. If it for you, then something is wrong with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Women are only interested in top menneurotypicality 70% of people with autism never date. At any given time only about 10-15% of people with autism are in a relationship (compared to about 70% of the general public), and the stats are worse for men with autism compared to women. It's pretty clear it's massive handicap in dating, most can't overcome it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 07:07 PM |
| 0 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.Being alone is a valid option. Not unless you're Schizoid. Not for most people. Most people will rather have pretty much anybody around, instead if having nobody. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else get angry and depressed when you see women expressing affection towards men?Then what's wrong with trying to work on yourself to change that? Because any substantial improvement is not possible. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:58 PM |
| 5 | full of hypocritesBut they don't have a magical ability to tell the difference fast. Men get judged pretty much immediately if they're quiet and not assertive, whether they're just shy or mentally ill. To be fair, it's not just women who do this, other men judge these types of guys as well. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept."account has been suspended" somehow that's not surprising lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 06:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.The problem is that a many men get virtually no attention from women, and if they started cutting out these women you call "scum", they'd only ever get to date very rarely or maybe never. It's still better to have someone around who at least isn't actively abusive, than to have nobody around. A lot of guys have to take any and all opportunity, because if they don't, there's a good chance they'll end up alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 06:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.If I complied a list of people, who according to y'all here in this sub "aren’t ready for a relationship", nobody would ever get to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 06:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.That entirely depends on whether you can present yourself as a normal human being or not. Normal people have empathy for other normal people. This is why so many people with autism for example are treated like shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 05:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.claim that successful men are all jerks, all bullies, all abusers That's not what they claim. They claim that being a "jerk, bully, abuser" doesn't seem to be much of a hindrance when it comes to dating. Every such person I've known dated/married. The people who actually struggle with dating are people who have conditions like autism, severe anxiety, AvPD, etc..., not the assholes. Assholes date just fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 04:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.You're right, women aren't “low quality” or “high quality”. In fact, we all are. Pretty measurably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Who is the most beta simp?I honestly just pretend that ROByoutube is parody. It's difficult to believe someone can have such a lack of awareness. Although he does claim to have autism, so I guess it makes sense. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 03:42 PM |
| 3 | The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense.Be yourself and find people that you can have natural organic conversation and chemistry with. The shit normal people can just do is amazing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 12:45 PM |
| 1 | The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense.The things normal people are capable of will never not baffle me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 12:43 PM |
| 2 | The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense.Exactly, normal people don't have strategies, they don't need to self-improve, or any of that crap. They can just exist, show up, be natural, and it happens for them. And if it doesn't for you, there's something very wrong with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 12:41 PM |
| 2 | The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense.You need reasons to "believe in yourself". Without those reasons, you'll come across as arrogant. Also, you can "believe in yourself" as much as you want, if you lack the ability, you won't be able to do it either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 12:36 PM |
| -1 | It’s telling that even girls well past their prime think they can afford to be insanely selectiveWhat? Plenty are more than aware that they're trash. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 12:26 PM |
| 5 | “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” My dude if your shot/miss ratio is 0/50, it’s time to put the ball up and go home.Normal people don't need to go to the gym to date. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 12:23 PM |
| 1 | Personality only matters when selecting a betabuxxer not for true attraction or desirePersonality and those skills are not something you can practically develop later in life. You have to come out of adolescence right. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 12:14 AM |
| 0 | Would you consider a 27 year old tall, bulky, not ugly, virgin, forever single man a gay, weirdo or mentally ill?This is simply not true. If these delusional men stick to their bracket they will find someone. Fundamentally garbage people don't find anyone. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Just seen ropemaxx materialNo, but some people are so trash that no amount of work will make them not trash, hiding behind the cliché of "you don't know what the future brings :)" is just a cop-out from having to admit that some people are just trash. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Would you consider a 27 year old tall, bulky, not ugly, virgin, forever single man a gay, weirdo or mentally ill?Why do you all deserve "Stacy" ??? Where have I said anything like that? I merely pointed out that fixing basic social skills isn't something that can practically be done after adolescence. That's it, nobody said anything about any "Stacy". | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 08:24 AM |
| 2 | Just seen ropemaxx materialThe only people who say stuff like this are normal people. When you're truly abnormal, you realize that "normal" is an extremely narrow set of values and behaviours. It only seems subjective to you because you're in that narrow band, and don't even realize how thin it is. It's not their own beliefs that matter, it's what virtually everyone believes that matters. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 04:57 AM |
| 2 | Just seen ropemaxx materialIt's not a belief, it's a verifiable fact. It's measurable and quantifiable. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 04:47 AM |
| 6 | Sub-7 men, how direct does a woman have to be with you for you to know she likes you as more than a friend?The fact that you could get a friend like that shows you weren't as bad as you like to pretend you were. It's obvious you're just playing up your achievements to dunk on some internet weirdos. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 04:23 AM |
| 2 | Just seen ropemaxx materialAnd for some none of that will work because they're too garbage. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 04:19 AM |
| 8 | Sub-7 men, how direct does a woman have to be with you for you to know she likes you as more than a friend?You were obviously not as bad as you're painting yourself. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Ok, we'll compromise, you don't have to change your personality from being a complete piece of shit on one condition....This sounds like chatgpt's attempts at humor. No offense, but are you on the spectrum? | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 04:05 AM |
| 3 | Just seen ropemaxx materialThat's a long winded way to say "therapy isn't very effective against severe social abnormalities". Also how do you know we didn't try therapy before? Also: “in 12 years of follow-up the probabilities of recovering from social phobia (SP), panic disorder with agoraphobia (PDA), and generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) were very low (.37, .48, .58 respectively) and lower than comorbid major depressive disorder (.73)(Bruce et al., 2005). Moreover, for those individuals who do recover, many relapse, … | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Why not try my patented Blue Pill one month guide for 34yo virgins??It's cute when you guys think you're insightful. Bro just pretend to be asexual bro. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:28 AM |
| 8 | Sub-7 men, how direct does a woman have to be with you for you to know she likes you as more than a friend?You were capable of that because you were already normal. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:27 AM |
| 1 | What is the most cucked job for an incl?Hey, at least you wised up. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:20 AM |
| 1 | Just seen ropemaxx materialWhy is it so difficult to believe that some people are just trash? | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:16 AM |
| 3 | Just seen ropemaxx materialJust go to therapy bro, it'll solve your problems bro. Wait? What's that? These things have very low rates of treatment success? Pff, bro, you just gotta therapy harder. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Just seen ropemaxx materialFor some, meaningful improvement isn't really possible. Severe social abnormalities have piss poor treatment success rates for a reason. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Theres only 20 Million chads on earthAh, the gym meme. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Cats are the women of the animalsYeah, but being an asshole doesn't seem to be a hindrance, for both men and women. Almost every asshole I've known dates just fine. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Why not try my patented Blue Pill one month guide for 34yo virgins??This is genuinely the dumbest thing I've ever read. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 02:59 AM |
| 11 | Sub-7 men, how direct does a woman have to be with you for you to know she likes you as more than a friend?The way you guys play up your "achievements" is hilarious. You didn't do "thousands of hours of social development". | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Would you consider a 27 year old tall, bulky, not ugly, virgin, forever single man a gay, weirdo or mentally ill?You can't really fix social skills if you have none past adolescence. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 02:53 AM |
| 12 | Sub-7 men, how direct does a woman have to be with you for you to know she likes you as more than a friend?If you're having a good time talking to someone, and it's easy to talk to them The lives of normal people are truly baffling. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 02:03 AM |
| 3 | Women dislike the blackpill because it makes them feel shallow.removes the assumed mystique of social interaction, which under analysis is shown not to exist at all but to follow almost totally predictable patterns and outcomes For some reason they have a really hard time accepting this. They're desperate for their interactions to be special, when they are not. Just because they're not aware of it, that doesn't mean this isn't quantifiable and measurable. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 01:46 AM |
| 1 | A spicy meme from yours truly:Very few women care about huge muscles. Most women prefer svelte guys. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/10/23 04:55 AM |
| 5 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairIt depends on what basic social skills you had. Were you really a shut in? Didn't you go to school at 17? Also, that's pretty young, at that age it's still acceptable to make certain mistakes that become unacceptable in your early-mid 20s. Look, I'm in my 30s, I never had a job, a friend, or any meaningful social contact with anybody, while having severe anxiety that's only gotten worse despite the work I did put in. At this point "putting in the work" has the exact same effect as not putting in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 12:42 AM |
| 0 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairNot if you're bad enough at it. If you're bad enough at this stuff, you won't have anybody you can practice and engage with, so you have to pay someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 11:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairI also know a lot of [...] people I'm always baffled when normal people say things like this. I simply don't understand how this is possible. I have no concept of this. Even getting to know one person sound ridiculous, the idea of multiple is impossible. How do you even remember their names? What they're like? Any information about them? It just sounds genuinely baffling that normal people are capable of this. I have no idea what "knowing a lot of people" means. There are probably some people wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 09:32 PM |
| 3 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairNo. Basic social behaviors can only be practically learned early in life. Beyond that only specialized training can help in any meaningful way (like SST), which is of course not available to most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 09:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairDo you just...exist? Like what fills your time? Endlessly scrolling social media while random youtube video plays in the background. I don't care about any of it, but it's a distraction. Unless you're working like 16-hour days 365 Never had a job. you must be doing something that's of interest to you I'm not doing any such thing. I don't even play video games, I find them too complex and difficult, while extremely boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairGet drunk at bars, talk to the people who will definitely be willing to. Tried this, ran away every time. Can't show up, can't enter due to anxiety. Alcohol makes my anxiety worse, as I am still aware that my abilities become even worse because of alcohol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairReally? Wow, I wouldn't have known. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:51 PM |
| 3 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairSo you’re just going to sit around the house staring at blank walls For the time being, yes. However, one day I'm going to gain the courage or desperation to blow my brains out. blaming everyone else? I'm not blaming anybody else. I'm the one who's trash, normal people just do what normal people do, can't blame them for that. Go to therapy. Only really available in the rich westernized countries in a good fashion, that's not where I'm from. Here, it's extremely limited, and it never worked. Turn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:49 PM |
| 2 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairJoin a group or a club. Way too much anxiety for that, and I can't talk to people anyway, so it'd be pointless. Meet people at work or school. Never had a job and I was too garbage to have anybody talk to me in school. Develop hobbies Never had a hobby, the concept baffles me. How else do you think people meet people? By being normal and doing pretty much random things. This is true trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:35 PM |
| 2 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairWhat effort? Where? How? With who? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:32 PM |
| 4 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairExactly how? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:30 PM |
| 2 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairSome people are too incapable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:30 PM |
| 3 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairSome people really are so trash that "change" is meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:03 PM |
| 7 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairExpect? Nah, I don't. I'm just saying, some people just can't have friends or a social life. That doesn't mean the frustration is any less valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:01 PM |
| 6 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairMaking friends is actually insanely easy if you actually just go do stuff. You have to come out of childhood and adolescence with the right skills to be able to have friends "insanely easy". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 06:43 PM |
| 8 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairNot everyone can do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 06:42 PM |
| 18 | CMV - if you don’t have a strong social circle, you have no right to complain about the dating market being unfairHere's the thing tho, you can't have a "core group of friends", or "interesting, social hobbies", etc... unless you come out of adolescence right. You can't learn this later in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 06:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used towhen these men are likely productive members of society with familes and friends who care about them Lol no. Most struggle with that too. Seems like you just like insulting people who you deem beneath you. Exact opposite. I am that trash. 30+, never dated, never had a job, never had any friends, never been to a social gathering, never even had a normal conversation with another human being in my life. Thrash like us should recognize this and remove ourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toWhich means something is wrong with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toalmost any man can get laid if he just spends enough time and effort on it. lol If you reach 30 as virgin man you're a gigaloser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 01:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toI think some 5% of men reach 30 as virgins. Not taking into account disabled people. Lol, you think it's their decisions to not to do it. Are you serious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toLuckily there's lots more to do in the world The only people who say this are people who get sex easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toProbably employed, productive members of society. I'm sure they have loving friends and family. And yeah, they're probably weird, too. Everyone is weird. Hahaha. No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toLots of men reach 30 as virgins Statistically untrue. VERY few men reach 30 as virgins. If they're so shy and they can't approach women to the level where they're still a virgin at 30, something IS very wrong with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 12:41 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toYeah, if you reach 30 as a virgin, and you're not asexual, there's something (or more likely multiple things) that is VERY wrong with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:48 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toSome are just not good enough and never will be. Mindset or "self-improvement" matters little for people like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Virtually all men will eventually get sex/relationships, it's just happening later than it used toI mean, yeah, statically true, however there some who will never get it, or at least not unless they pay for it. And as others have pointed out, you'll never really make up for the lost time and opportunities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 11:43 PM |
| 2 | W*man blames men for choosing AI waifus over w*men who reject themSelf-improvement is a meme, normal people just do random shit that they think is self-improvement, but really it's just random shit. It works out for them because they're normal, but when somebody abnormal tries to do "self-improvement", it goes nowhere. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 07:09 PM |
| 2 | A formal destrcution of "therapy for men"Therapy is for mild to moderate issues, mostly relating to motivation and coping. It' doesn't work well for actual severe issues. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 05:38 PM |
| 2 | Brutal heightpillNah, he's decently handsome and his body is way better the average American guy's these days. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 09:52 PM |
| 5 | "Just be confident bro and stop complaining. Just be yourself and you'll get a girlfriend."I'm not saying I have all this, it's just that these are the things that statically impact social functioning the most. And tend to have poor treatment success rates. So it's kind of an inane thing thing to say "everyone has problems", when those problems can be so vastly different. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 07:54 PM |
| 4 | "Just be confident bro and stop complaining. Just be yourself and you'll get a girlfriend."Severe social anxiety/SAD, AvPD, autism, lacking proper basic childhood/adolescence socialization, stuff like that. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 07:50 PM |
| 6 | "Just be confident bro and stop complaining. Just be yourself and you'll get a girlfriend."There's a difference between a normal person with some issues, and someone with deeply handicapped social functioning, for example. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 07:45 PM |
| 9 | "Just be confident bro and stop complaining. Just be yourself and you'll get a girlfriend."When you're a normal human being, that might work, but it doesn't work for the rest. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 02:09 PM |
| 0 | It’s overAt least be open to the possibility, they exist. People for whom being on reddit or not being on reddit makes no difference. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 11:03 AM |
| 0 | It’s overFor truly trash people, not wasting time on reddit does nothing. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 09:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV - Pornography is beneficial for society - It removes undesirable males out of the dating raceNormal people don't need to self improve to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 03:45 AM |
| 3 | “Just get off incel forums broo”They care about normalcy. Being able to get relationships and sex is one of the major checks for normalcy, and if you fail that check, it's a massive red flag, not just in dating. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 02:29 AM |
| 1 | My dad is a Chad.Yeah, the trash can't replicate that. Duh. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | It’s overSome people are trash, deleting reddit does nothing. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 02:19 AM |
| 2 | “Just get off incel forums broo”This is not true. It's one of the most common insults and joke topics. Losing your virginity is big check for normalcy, as is being able to get relationships (or at least get sex), failing that is red flag and sign to get away from someone. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 02:17 AM |
| 2 | Being completely unsuccessful and unlucky in generalSome people are just not fit for this shit, I guess. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 02:05 AM |
| 1 | It’s crazy how even women well past their prime think they can still afford to be picky, sometimes even more so than genuinely desirable womenSo, they're not "alone"? | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/08/23 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Why don't yall all go have sex?If you have a good & interesting personality Storytelling, humor, listening skills, being passionate about things, etc. all matter. If you lack proper socialization, you won't have that. How the fuck would I have that? I don't even know what that means. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 11:11 PM |
| 1 | It’s crazy how even women well past their prime think they can still afford to be picky, sometimes even more so than genuinely desirable womenYeah, that's called "Schizoid Personality Disorder". | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 11:00 PM |
| 2 | Women’s advice be likeProjection. I never said that, nor do I think that. Nor did I say that you do. It's merely a factual observation. Everyone should know EXACTLY who they are and where they stack up. It takes practice to get better at it. And when you lack basic socialization, you can't get that practice, because nobody would engage. The only option is specialized training with a professional, which is not an option for most of the planet. There's also the online route for classes and options. Yes, let's do someth… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 10:56 PM |
| 2 | Women’s advice be likeSo you're clearly not someone that falls into the normal category, but you're comparing yourself to them? What a brilliant way to fall short. How are you surprised by that? Just not having a job is far from the norm, so again, why are you comparing like you should get the same results as them? Because I'm a garbage human being that must know its place? Then you have the first things you should work on. When you lack basic socialization, the necessary interactions of a job are impossible. I have … | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Women’s advice be likeWhere do you derive your confidence? Nowhere. Are you incompetent in everything you've worked at? Work, sports, online, and so on? Pretty much. Never had a job, never had a hobby or interest. I have no idea what "so on" could entail. Billionaires also date. So? They aren't you, and they have no bearing on you. Can you imagine an average Joe giving up on dating because he could never afford a jet for his date? What the fuck are you talking about? This is the opposite of what I was saying. I meant… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Women’s advice be likeConfidence is only possible when you have reasons for it. When you lack those reasons, things simply won't work out. There's a difference between "mistakes will happen", and "only mistakes happen". That's where self-improvement/investment in yourself comes in. The second is essentially working towards being the best version of yourself and improving incrementally. Fucked up, straight up evil people date. Out of shape, badly dressed people date. Why don't they need to self-improve? Why don't they… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 10:15 PM |
| 7 | Women’s advice be likeIt does highlight the contradiction of a lot of advice here. "Be yourself and confident!" vs "You need to self-improve!" | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:53 PM |
| 2 | “Just get off incel forums broo”I guess it's a cultural difference then. Just because y'all don't say it out loud, that doesn't mean y'all don't also think it. I've had many jobs in many different industries. Normal people always baffle me. Even having a job sound ridiculous, but having "many jobs in many different industries" is truly unimaginable. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:07 PM |
| 2 | “Just get off incel forums broo”if I were you I'd change career fields. Dude, I never had a job. What "change" lol? That sounds like a daycare center for autistic adults. They didn't have autism, they were normal adults with jobs, SOs, children. A good portion of them were fairly attractive with normal healthy social lives. This is what average people think about abnormal people. It's just that people are more open about about this stuff and have less filter around here compared to the fake-nice American/Western-EU environment… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 07:37 PM |
| 2 | “Just get off incel forums broo”Of course I never had a real job, but I took part in two adult education programs. People from the age of 20 to 50 took part in them, so adults, not kids. (I failed both btw, but that's beside the point) The first one was an in IT related field, I was in my early 20s. People pretty fast figured it out I was the weirdo. There were constant jokes about this stuff, one that sticks out was when one guy asked if I had gone on a date over the weekend in a snarky voice, for some reason that's the one I… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 07:26 PM |
| 6 | “Just get off incel forums broo”Lol, I experienced it even as an adult, I've seen it done to others. I can give exact descriptions, if you want. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 05:50 PM |
| 4 | “Just get off incel forums broo”There's a difference between playful stuff between friends that has no malice behind it, and "ew look at this disgusting creature". | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:40 AM |
| 6 | “Just get off incel forums broo”Lol, it's an incredibly common insult, and a major check for normalcy, so people do instinctively care. Also, people can absolutely tell without you telling them, just from reactions to certain topics and situations. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:36 AM |
| 6 | Why don't yall all go have sex?And this is exactly what people with improper socialization can't do, with a man or woman, it's not gonna work either way. Like, I have no idea what a normal interaction is, man or woman. What would that conversation even be about? I've got no clue. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:31 AM |
| 6 | Why don't yall all go have sex?That would make no difference. It's about ability, not attitude. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:27 AM |
| 4 | Why don't yall all go have sex?You think I'm talking about "awkward"? That's cute. You can't fix a lack of basic socialization organically, only with professional treatment, even then the chance of success is low. Especially when it's coupled with social anxiety, another thing with abysmal treatment success rates. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:24 AM |
| 6 | Why don't yall all go have sex?You can't learn this later in life, you have to come out of adolescence with the correct socialization. People just won't engage you, you won't learn. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:14 AM |
| 5 | Why don't yall all go have sex?When you lack proper socialization, you can't do that. | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 09:08 AM |
| 11 | Autism blackpill - autistic male fertility rate of 0.2Oh yes, all those people with autism, they all just have a bad attitude! If they just gosh darn tried harder! | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/08/23 10:01 PM |
| 4 | I may get a lot of hate for it but I legitimately think in the older ages most men look better than womenNah, both men and women start looking like shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Why do people in this sub get mad that no one cares about them or wants to date them ?People who hate themselves date just fine. Self-love is not a prerequisite for dating. It's not the problem. Also, there need to be reasons to love yourself. If you lack those reasons, it makes perfect sense to not love yourself. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/08/23 07:32 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?What benefit does that give, if I don't enjoy the mere act of knitting itself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?What tangible results? The 11 pullups? Can you give me examples? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 02:57 PM |
| 3 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Ah a classic. Yes, if I just put more effort in it, I wouldn't have panic attacks so severe I get the ambulance called on me because people think I'm having a heart attack. If I just did that, I would be able to say things to strangers properly and my vocal cords wouldn't fail me. I'd suddenly know how to handle conversation, and my mind wouldn't be completely blank. Of course! If I just wanted it hard enough, right? Whether you like it or not, severe social anxiety has very poor treatment rates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 02:55 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Glad we agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 02:48 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Maybe schematic ones. On yay, I can do 11 pull-ups instead of 9. How awesome. The reality is that for some there are no tangible benefits, because even with their "improvement" they fail the basic requirements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 02:41 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Saying you cannot improve your social skills is just as defeatist But you can't practically, not without specialized training by a professional (like SST). People who lack basic socialization can't improve without it. How could they? Seriously come up with examples. Who would engage such a person? Where? Why? Maybe close family, but people who end with inadequate socialization tend to have shit families who are most likely the reason behind the struggles in the first place. don't improve your lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 02:30 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?And I said those might not be possible? lower blood pressure? What if I don't care about my blood pressure? Not a new fact that you learned What if I don't care about the subject, got nobody to mention it to, and there's no befit to knowing that fact? I can know the height of Mount Vesuvius (it's 1,281 m btw), but how does that benefit me? new personal record at the gym Again, this depends on caring about it. I've exercised my whole life, I was in an athletics club as a teenager, the last time I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 02:11 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Again, what's the point of self-improvement if tangible, meaningful benefits are not possible? You can pretend that people just do it for the sake of it, but that's very naive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:52 PM |
| 2 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?That depends on early life socialization. If you don't have that, you can't be fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:45 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?You mean to tell me that it’s it’s possible to self-improve and not get anything out of it? Not a lower blood pressure? Not a new fact that you learned? Not a new personal record at the gym? Not a new story to tell friends? Not a slightly better job? The value of these entirely depends on personal situations and possibilities. Someone could schematically get better at these things, but not get any meaningful results from them, or simply they might not care about these results. A person who attem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:44 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Again, why would I care? Those are impossibilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:22 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Why would that matter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:18 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?I don't have a concept of confidence, and why should negativity matter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:15 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Wow, most people who give "self-improvement" as advice never admit that results are the only thing that matters. Good on you. Still, for some those results are impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:14 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?No clue what that's like. Sounds masturbatory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:08 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Are you're telling me you don't know awful, horrible, out-of-shape, etc.. people who date? They obviously do. Why didn't they need to "improve"? It's because self-improvement is not a barrier to entry for dating. Being able to perform certain social behaviors is. But those behaviors are so basic, if you don't have them by the time you're an adult, there's most likely something very wrong with you, and it won't be fixed ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:47 PM |
| 0 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Self-improvement is always a good thing, even if it doesn’t get you the exact thing you were hoping for. What if it gets you nothing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:22 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?You can always be improving yourself. There's countless opportunities for improvement. Yeah, but what if there are no results? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:21 PM |
| 1 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?t allows you to become a better version of yourself Not if there are no meaningful effects on their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:20 PM |
| 3 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?If your basic socialization is wrong, and and you basic social skills are bottom tier, meeting people is irrelevant. They won't engage, nothing will happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:17 PM |
| 2 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Also, people don't need to "improve themselves" to date. I know horrible, awful, straight up evil people who date. I know out of shape, badly dressed people who date. If they can't date at all, ever, then something else is the problem, likely their basic socialization, which is virtually impossible to fix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:07 PM |
| 2 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Normal people don't need to do any of that just to date. Sure, if you want to date someone more attractive, what you're writing makes sense, but if you can't date at all in the first place, it won't help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:05 PM |
| 4 | At what point is 'improve yourself' no longer good advice?Normal people don't need to improve themselves to be able to date. If you can't date at all, self-improvement won't help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 12:01 PM |
| 3 | I wish I could be a Chad for a dayWhen you have anhedonia and grew up in an environment where you were never really taught how to foster interests, you most likely won't be able to "pour yourself into hobbies". | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 08:48 AM |
| 3 | If you can't get sex despite trying and without paying, you are objectively not attractive periodOr they're just being nice and don't actually think you're attractive. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 02:02 PM |
| 1 | How many men here fit these standards?Why can’t you choose a career or something? I have a decently valuable 2-year industrial technician's degree (as well as a certification as a PLC programmer), but it was a huge struggle to get due to social anxiety, which then stopped me from getting proper work. I can't do phone calls, I can't do interviews, and I can't do the necessary interactions of daily in-person work. Or at least try to get on disability? Not really a thing around here for mental illness, I'm not from a rich western count… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 01:39 PM |
| 1 | How many men here fit these standards?Yes, when they die I'll either rope or become homeless. Also, I have occasionally done online, part-time work through Appen (ad & search result rating), but that dried up a while ago. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Tips on tindering when you are less than the physical ideal.Well, I believe the "autistic" part now. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Tips on tindering when you are less than the physical ideal.So, it was bragging, got it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 03:49 AM |
| 1 | How many men here fit these standards?Nope. I have no income. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 03:00 AM |
| 1 | How many men here fit these standards?Has a profession or trade that pays decently well. Never had a proper job. Working or in school full time. lol no Is putting money away for retirement Nope. Will be able to afford a house Maybe if I inherit one. Is loyal: won’t cheat How the fuck should I know. Doesn’t smoke Yay, got one. Doesn’t drink more than like a beer once a week, if at all Or two. Doesn’t do drugs including weed m Well... Gentle Kind I don't interact with people enough to have a meaningful social profile, these qualities … | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Tips on tindering when you are less than the physical ideal.my insane levels of confidence and skilled navigation of social situations This is entirely dependent on early life socialization. Useless as a piece of advice, you're just bragging. Maybe for parents it's a good advice when it comes to what to do with their children. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Tips on tindering when you are less than the physical ideal.This is legit so funny to read. My cover photo is of me smiling like a goofball at last year's little birthday cake with a lit candle flanked by friends. Never had a birthday celebrated, never had friends. Second photo is a photo of me at my mate's wedding with the newly weds. lol I just say briefly what I've done, what I do, and what I'm planning to do. Never planned to do anything, never had goals, never "done" anything. Normal people are baffling. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/08/23 12:32 AM |
| 1 | "I see unattractive guys with girlfriends and wives!!1", well what about unattractive guys having ONE NIGHT STANDS and HOOKUPS?In order to be an ugly man who's still successful with women, you have to have excellent early life socialization. If you miss out on that, you'll never be able to replicate the level of social competency required. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/23 05:33 PM |
| 4 | I believe autism is a bigger death sentence for your romantic prospects then looking uglyConfirmation bias. Most don't make it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 05:10 PM |
| 5 | I believe autism is a bigger death sentence for your romantic prospects then looking uglyThe stats don't look good tho. 70% of people with autism (and an even higher percentage of males with autism) never date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 05:08 PM |
| 6 | I believe autism is a bigger death sentence for your romantic prospects then looking uglyTrue. Most "ugly" people date. Most people with autism don't date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/23 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Take the Robot Test and Let's Share and Compare Results38 Robot | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/23 03:14 PM |
| 0 | How much of the trans epidemic is guys realizing how much better women have it in every way and trying to get a slice of that pie?About negligible to zero. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/23 09:59 AM |
| 13 | There's only one group of men that seem to defy the blackpill.Two things: you underestimate just how badly some people want any sort of public attention, even if it's negative you underestimate the prevalence of savior complex Yes, both of these groups tend to be weird, fucked up people, but they do exist. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/23 09:51 AM |
| 7 | Can you imagine the outrage we would see from women if the roles were suddenly reversed and they were forced to settle for men way less attractive than them?person that you’re compatible with Please stay in reality and don't bring up made up fantasy creatures. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/07/23 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Females and Men are not equal at all and shouldn’t be treated like it ever.This (as well as your other recent post) feels like bait. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/07/23 01:10 PM |
| 0 | Why do bluepillers push therapy so much?A big problem with therapy is that for many it's just not available, especially if they live outside the progressive western world. Private care is often too expensive, while private care is frequently lacking. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/07/23 12:52 PM |
| 0 | Post I made about incels that gets censored off other subredditsMental illnesses and maladaptive social behaviors are not 'fake'. Those can make you involuntary celibate, if they're bad enough. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/07/23 03:20 PM |
| 1 | What race of women do you find least attractive? (for men)Racial and ethnic preferences are weird. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/07/23 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Post I made about incels that gets censored off other subredditsYeah, most incels are incels because of social reasons. I know I am, for one. | /r/AllPillDebate | 10/07/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | When women say they want "a little bit of muscle" on a guy they still mean a lot of muscleI disagree with this. The most popular body type among women in my experience right now is more svelte that that. As long as you're not overweight, you're doing better than most in many countries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 04:29 PM |
| 3 | Incels do not hate women, incels hate female sexuality.Exactly. Autism, Social Anxiety Disorder, Avoidant Personality Disorder, atypical upbringing and socialization, etc... are all common in these groups. At that point it's not really about decisions, but capabilities, and how much these conditions handicap them. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/07/23 10:06 PM |
| 2 | Why most men here are single70% of people with autism don't date. Are you saying they're not trying hard enough? | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/07/23 01:06 PM |
| 6 | DEEP BREAKDOWN: Consequences of Long Term lack of Sexual Access for Mendon't think that issues such as depression or social anxiety started because of lack of sex. This is correct, lack of intimacy is a consequence is those things, but in turn it also make those feelings worse. I don't understand is the idea that sexual access is the reason men do anything productive in the first place. In my mind, you set and achieve your goals because they're fun Maybe not entirely, but it's demotivating to not really have anybody who cares, anybody you can share those things wit… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/07/23 12:58 PM |
| 1 | If you're a virgin in your mid to late 20s and a girl asks you about your past relationship, just lieUsually it's a result of being unattractive and being socially inept/having heavy social anxiety. The problem is that you can't do too much about the latter if you're too deep down. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Statusmaxxed athlete assaulted w*manIf it's only about sex for him, he doesn't care about "about morality, social status, or personality type". I mean, why would he? | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/06/23 06:53 AM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on Transmaxxing?Considering how bad trans people are treated, nah. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/06/23 04:58 PM |
| 18 | If you're a virgin in your mid to late 20s and a girl asks you about your past relationship, just lieNot just when a girl asks, when anybody asks. If you have to, make up a simple lie that is easy to keep straight. If you let people know you're a virgin later in life in the workplace or in tertiary education, that can have severe consequences with ridicule and bullying. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/06/23 10:23 AM |
| 1 | As only 5% of autistic people get married, inc the females, so what's holding them back?Well said. The only chances I see for somebody like this are, either they find somebody who's neurodivergent in a similar way (unlikely), or they find an excellent social skills therapist who's willing to put in a shitton of hours (like, meeting multiple times a week level), but that latter option wouldn't be covered by a public system anywhere, and in private care it would be insanely expensive. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/06/23 04:04 PM |
| 1 | As only 5% of autistic people get married, inc the females, so what's holding them back?Well, there is Social Skills Training (SST), which was specifically developed for people with autism, but I'm really not sure about how successful it is, I've seen no stats (I'm not even sure how one would measure it anyway). It's also pretty difficult to find a therapist who's skilled in it. Your post is spot on tho. You can't learn this stuff outside of childhood/adolescence. People just won't engage someone who lacks basic social skills later in life, therefore you won't learn. That's what SS… | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/06/23 11:07 AM |
| 5 | I’m a 25 year old incel. Tell me your pill color and what you think I should do to improve my chances of getting a girlfriend.Fat and ugly people date. You can improve the quality of your dates with looksmaxing, but if you can't date at all when you're unattractive, something else is wrong. Your point about social situations I agree with, but again, normal people still usually figure that stuff out intuitively. | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/06/23 09:01 PM |
| 16 | I’m a 25 year old incel. Tell me your pill color and what you think I should do to improve my chances of getting a girlfriend.If you haven't figured it out by now intuitively, your chances are pretty bad. Normal people don't need to "self-improve" or even try all that hard, they just do it naturally. If you can't, something is probably very wrong. | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/06/23 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Social isolation causes permanent damageAttitude matters little for this. From his post, it's pretty clearly an issue with socialization and isolation, and people like that won't find "their circle" because they lack the basic skills to do so. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/06/23 01:54 PM |
| 3 | Social isolation causes permanent damageAdvice like this doesn't get that when you're in this situation, you won't be able to find "the right circle", you won't be able to find any "circle". | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/06/23 06:59 AM |
| 4 | Social isolation causes permanent damagego fishing or lift weights or something. Practice a creative hobby that expresses your deepest feelings. Write a song. This might help with some of the psychological aspects, but won't solve the fundamental issues that stem from longtime social isolation, anxiety, and autism. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/06/23 06:59 AM |
| 5 | Social isolation causes permanent damageThis is true. You pretty much have to come out of childhood & adolescence with apt social skills and a lack isolation related trauma to have a chance. You don't even have to have autism, it fucks you either way, because when you lack basic social skills and normal social interests (inevitable results of longtime isolation), people won't want to engage you, and you won't know how to engage them. Pretty much the only faint chance people like that have is Social Skills Training (SST), which was ori… | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/06/23 06:52 AM |
| 4 | I believe there are good women out there where do you find them though?maybe search for Eastern European women Truly spoken like somebody who hasn't been in a 10k mile radius of Eastern Europe. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/06/23 06:34 AM |
| 13 | Reminder this is who you are arguing with.No, they don't. They also don't fart or poop. Everyone knows this, duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 08:16 AM |
| – | Who hurt you people ?When you're normal, normalcy seems ocean wide, when you're abnormal, it seems like the size of a pinhead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 06:03 PM |
| – | Who hurt you people ?You're focusing on a couple convenient fringe idiots. Most people like that don't "expect" anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 05:58 PM |
| – | Who hurt you people ?Doing normal things when you're abnormal won't work, because the results won't be normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 05:57 PM |
| – | Who hurt you people ?Again, what is it you think they "expect"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 05:51 PM |
| – | Who hurt you people ?Life is hard life knocks you down This is simply not true. Life in the developed world is piss easy. Normal people just do random shit, and they end up fine because they're normal. However, if you're abnormal, that's not going to work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 05:49 PM |
| – | Who hurt you people ?"Expect"? Why do you guys always come with the presumption of these "expectations"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 05:46 PM |
| 3 | Turning Japanese, The VaporsYou know that song is about masturbation, right? | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/06/23 01:32 AM |
| 6 | GF broke up with me today and it's making me doubt the blackpillThe key is to install a shower in the gym, that way you can shower and work out at the same time. Only top 0.001% Chads know this trick. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/06/23 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Question for the 35+ crowdPeople simply won't engage you at that point. I mean, why would they? What would normal people gain from it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 03:57 AM |
| 3 | Question for the 35+ crowdNo matter how lonely you feel, understand that life can be enjoyed alone. Yeah, if you're schizoid, maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:08 AM |
| 0 | Question for the 35+ crowdThere is hardly a way back into society from the place a lot of men here come. It would require years of close social contact with friends of both sexes. It would require making crucial coming of age experiences that might be forever unachievable now. This is spot on. It's pretty much impossible fix post mid-20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:06 AM |
| 10 | I’m so tired of posts complaining about womenAgree, it is important to be aware of the fact that everyone sucks. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/05/23 12:43 AM |
| 5 | What do you actually think of unattractive men and their ability to date or get laid?Whether or not someone can date depends almost entirely on their ability to replicate certain social behaviors. However, who they can date depends on how attractive they themselves are, primarily how physically attractive they are. A dude can't date at all, ever? Social problem. A dude can only date unattractive women? That dude is ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 12:34 AM |
| 5 | I’m starting to think Most men who blame their looks are usually nowhere near as ugly as they think.It's likely that you, and some other men, have been led to believe that you're less attractive than you actually are due to a lack of clear affirmations. Unfortunately only the absolute most attractive men get meaningful compliments, so this indeed happens fairly often. Even men who are above average (but not super attractive) often get zero affirmations about their attractiveness. However, that doesn't mean that many men aren't truly ugly as shit, and are handicapped by that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 10:22 PM |
| 2 | "Self-improvement" makes you jaded even if it works for dating.Most of self-improvement is a bit of scam anyway, it's just a variation of "do random thing" most of the time. Most people like to claim how hard they work in all aspects of life in order to feel better about themselves and to brag to others, but in really it's just that, "they did random things", and because they're normal human beings it worked out for them with relationships, hookups, friends, etc... I don't think it makes people feel jaded, but people who are already jaded and insecure are m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 07:06 PM |
| 26 | CMV: When women talk of men opening up, what they mean is men should open up in women approved ways, for women approved problems and for women approved lengths of timeDon't fall for the "open up" meme. People just want the cute boy/girl to make them feel special by sharing something innocuous, they don't actually want to hear heavy shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Where Is an appropriate place for young man to approach a woman he likes in 2023?don’t be afraid to be confident That's not how confidence works. It's entirely based on past experiences, if one lacks those experience, they cannot be "confident" in a way that's recognized as such. Instead their "confidence" will be seen as creepy, and inappropriate for their status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 11:11 AM |
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