eggsceptnllyoeuffish Archive

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6	What is Your Opinion of Myron Gaines, aka Amrou Fudl? A youtuber I occasionally listen to (fd signifier) has occasionally mentioned him and what he's said about him doesn't make him sound like a good guy or someone who should be listened to	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 03:30 AM
1	If you want your moral character to matter in dating, you have to also care about character in others. No it's not lol. It could also point to men being more trusting than women, men having less socio-emotional intelligence (men are often raised that way due to societal gender roles) and simply being worse at judging character. Or men having less options due to women being so picky these days, and feeling the need to settle or be overly optimistic about the person, not as a matter of sexual access but broader romantic access. And various other factors At any rate there's no reason to assume that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 03:28 AM
2	REVAMPED DISCORD SERVER - AFFIRMATIVE✅ AND ARGUMENTATIVE🤬 POSTS📝 MUST BE FLAIRED🚩 AS DEBATE🗣️ DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Sexism is why a woman didn't have any chance at all to become president until relatively recently Arguably Hillary was on track to win an Obama 2008 style win right until the Comey affair right before the election, and Harris was arguably dragged down more by her association with the pretty unpopular Biden (and her total unwillingness to distance herself from him at all in the election), rather than them losing because they were women. One could imagine it playing some role in the margins of cou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 03:22 AM
2	If you want your moral character to matter in dating, you have to also care about character in others. A lot of women agree with the antiquated traditional gender role ideas that basically say that women are desperate sluts if they initiate anything with men, rather than doing the traditionally feminine thing of being passive and expecting the man to take all the initiative. So it's not surprising that a bunch will see a woman make a move on a guy in any way at all, and assume that it must be "horniness" rather than just showing any initiative at all and communicating openness	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 03:11 AM
2	CMV: The non-red pills have the more inconsistent and incoherent views of gender because they don't understand the difference between positive rights and negative rights One can simply believe that certain things are rights and certain things aren't rights. It's not necessarily "incoherent and inconsistent" to view different things differently Politically, I see a lot of people saying stuff basically to the extent of "well if you have THIS view then it is inconsistent if you don't have THIS view about this other thing too!" in a way that is clearly trying to make accusations of hypocrisy and inconsistency but also doesn't bother to actually analyze why these peo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 03:06 AM
3	Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners. You're simply saying "it's not right for men to prioritize sex" No, I'm saying "the stereotype that men prioritize sex doesn't seem correct to begin with" these men are building up a future relationship they're going to be dissatisfied with. Idk but either way many probably won't have relationships at all considering women's standards, if they already aren't getting selected. Women's standards only ever seen to get more selective after all	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 09:15 PM
2	REVAMPED DISCORD SERVER - AFFIRMATIVE✅ AND ARGUMENTATIVE🤬 POSTS📝 MUST BE FLAIRED🚩 AS DEBATE🗣️ DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Ultimately a lot of women just don't particularly care about actual progressive values and never did, instead having simply enjoyed when progressive values served to give them advantage (because progressives focused on women's issuesore than men's), and realizing that they were utterly disgusted at the thought of a world where men are also accepted without having to make the effort to perform traditional beauty standards or the aspects of gender roles that women like. It's easy to divide people …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 09:13 PM
4	REVAMPED DISCORD SERVER - AFFIRMATIVE✅ AND ARGUMENTATIVE🤬 POSTS📝 MUST BE FLAIRED🚩 AS DEBATE🗣️ DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 The "help" offered to men who struggle to date is usually just "change yourself to adhere more to traditional gender roles and beauty standards", followed by "fuck you, you are an asshole who just wants to wallow around in self pity, if you won't change yourself in the ways I insist!". In a world where women increasingly are told that they should be accepted regardless of whether they adhere to their own expected traditional gender roles and beauty standards, and shouldn't have to change themsel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 08:54 PM
1	REVAMPED DISCORD SERVER - AFFIRMATIVE✅ AND ARGUMENTATIVE🤬 POSTS📝 MUST BE FLAIRED🚩 AS DEBATE🗣️ DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 A man who hates gender roles and actually wants them abolished, which is what old school second wave radical feminism stood for (the modern self described internet "radical feminist" on the other hand mostly just cares about seething about the existence of trans people and has no clue what foundational radfems like Dworkin or Mackinnon thought about trans people lol). Contrasted to the more modern sort of "feminism" that has largely given up on the anti gender roles stuff and has been leaning he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 08:51 PM
2	Most of the women who have difficulties dating are just low value as sexual partners. Women are the gatekeepers for both sex and romance. Chalking it up to sex here seems wrong because there's plenty of men who are fine without prioritizing sex too, these women who struggle just don't want those men either. The problem is women's preferences and standards, and being unwilling to accept the options they have. Unattractive men are far more willing to date unattractive women than vice versa	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 08:44 PM
0	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky As I said, I support universal paid family and medical leave, in general. If there are medical issues resultant from a pregnancy, then medical leave would presumably cover those medical issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 06:07 PM
-1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky I support national universal paid family and medical leave. It would be stupid to try and turn family and medical leave into a gender war issue, but clearly a lot of women just want to be mad at men	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 05:32 PM
-1	CMV: Men going Dutch via alternating is better than going Dutch via people paying 50% or for themselves, because it usually has plausible deniability that it's just trad if it's cut off at the first date That's stupid. Idk why women find it so damned unbearable to just have actual equality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 06:25 AM
4	What do you think about this quote from Bell Hooks? In an anti-patriarchal culture males do not have to prove their value and worth. They know from birth that simply being gives them value, the right to be cherished and loved." If a man said this, he'd be called a disgusting entitled misogynist creep. If a woman said this today, she'd be called a pickme handmaiden for the patriarchy. There used to be difficult strands of feminism that stood up for everyone, including men, but now we have the growing reactionary turn in popular feminism that wretc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 03:53 AM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky Parental leave should be 50/50 and it should be ok for the father to take off equal time rather than having to be the breadwinner at that time. But how many women want a man who is going to do that? The desire is typically for the man to still be the breadwinner, perhaps he also has to do 50/50 parenting duties but while still taking on more of the labor duties too. Which isn't fair. Full equality should be the goal, not just equality in the ways women want while also expecting men to perform th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 11:15 PM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky 50/50 is a perfectly reasonable thing and if women don't want that, they should stop pretending to care about equality at all. Not everything needs to be exactly split down the middle in every situation, but it's reasonable to broadly split things 50/50 and without doing some sort of trad gender role division of labor or whatever. The expectation that men need to man up and be the provider or whatever is stupid and sexist, no matter how much women call the men who don't want to perform tradition…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 04:07 PM
4	Women should make the first move, its better for everyone. Most women, even the ones who talk big game about equality and opposing gender roles (when those gender roles disadvantage them) still want men to perform our own traditional gender roles though. And for women to have to approach men rather than just expect men to always be the initiators and actors, that would be seen as us men going against our gender roles, and women not receiving the privileges of aspects of traditionalism that they like. So it won't change. I mean women will ask out the mos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 04:21 AM
2	Feminists In Practice Believe in the Absolute, near Invariant Moral Perfection of Women. It is a Highly Dangerous View: Or maybe the problem is "power", not "who wields power"	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 06:02 AM
4	I'm starting to think men don't consider women they're not attracted to to be women I think many of the men women tend to be attracted to don't consider women they aren't attracted to to be women, or even human. But there's also plenty of men out there who women just aren't attracted to and ignore themselves Though with some of these things... In public men don't even look at me, and if they do its because they're standing behind a cash register taking my money. ...what are men supposed to do? We go through life hearing about how horrid it is to be a woman, how tiring and soul …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 06:00 AM
9	Q4Men: Would you truly spend a year or more with a woman with zero intention of being serious/ married? And let her think otherwise? Personally I would never get married because the institution of marriage has a lot of gross problematic traditionalist baggage attached to it, but I do nonetheless want a serious, long term relationship, just not a traditional one that relies on some paperwork and an old timey ceremony to validate it Personally I'd be very upfront about that and about what I want more generally, because that's just basic decency. But then I'm not the sort of man women choose to date, and the man women do choose …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:19 PM
5	Men on the whole are objectively worth less to date now than ever I believe If one only wants men who perform traditional masculinity and gender roles, then yeah, men these days are going to be less desirable than before. More and more men have heard women saying that gender roles are bad, have decided that this is correct, and are walking away from gender roles. It's ok for men to ask for help. We aren't going back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 06:16 PM
1	Would you like to live in a post gender society? and yet men believe that feminism is the problem. With more and more young people seeing politics primarily from social media and online shit rather than what politicians and activists are doing IRL, and with the rise of reactionary feminism in popular culture which basically seeks to reinforce traditional gender roles and just tweak them to benefit women more than men, giving up on any real hope for equality and ending gender roles, it makes sense that more and more men are going to see "femini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:16 PM
2	Would you like to live in a post gender society? I want gender roles gone. People can simply be themselves without needing to force themselves into particular preset archetypes on the basis of arbitrary factors they are born with. I don't care how cringe folks think the woke 2010s era perspectives on "get rid of gender roles, just have bread rolls!" were, I think they were 100% correct and far better than the shit today where it's either traditionalist arguments for gender roles or, increasingly, some weird reactionary feminist/"sacred masculi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/26 04:08 PM
–	AFFIRMATIVE✅ AND ARGUMENTATIVE🤬 POSTS📝 MUST BE FLAIRED🚩 AS DEBATE🗣️ DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 And media is made by a tiny sliver of powerful people, not reflective of the average person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 07:15 PM
–	AFFIRMATIVE✅ AND ARGUMENTATIVE🤬 POSTS📝 MUST BE FLAIRED🚩 AS DEBATE🗣️ DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Again, plenty of regular men are fine with seeing ugly women. Not even ugly women want to see ugly men And so what about what media shows? Media is created by a tiny sliver of ultra rich powerful people, it's not even remotely representative of regular people	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 06:50 PM
–	AFFIRMATIVE✅ AND ARGUMENTATIVE🤬 POSTS📝 MUST BE FLAIRED🚩 AS DEBATE🗣️ DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Some men do. Other men support body positivity. But clearly women never cared about body positivity except as a way to try and pressure a narrow range of conventionally attractive men into embracing a wider range of women, hence why the men who do support body positivity get ignored or looked on with disgust by women	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 06:41 PM
–	AFFIRMATIVE✅ AND ARGUMENTATIVE🤬 POSTS📝 MUST BE FLAIRED🚩 AS DEBATE🗣️ DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Plenty of men accepted body positivity - women just don't seem to like the sort of men who support body positivity, and seem to prefer the more traditional sort of men who openly mock those sorts of ideas. Plenty of men accept and respect ugly women now, but not even ugly women want those men	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 06:12 PM
1	Men don’t want relationships, they want service Pretty sure there's plenty of research suggesting that people tend to do better in relationships when they go for people who are more similar to them, contrary to the pop psych idea of "opposites attract"	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 11:10 PM
2	Boys are supposed to BECOME men Mug of human history was under conditions that were relatively egalitarian and peaceful, where cooperating and working together was more important than "war", with working together also being pretty important for hunting, and where a pretty sizable majority of caloric sustenance likely came from the gathering side rather than the hunting side The more stratified life filled with macho conflict and such came relatively late in human history, with growing populations and the advent of settled agri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 11:06 PM
–	Men are more shallow than women and you know it Maybe a lot of women just have a preference for the sort of men more likely to have those expectations. Plenty of us don't particularly care about looks, however. Women complain about these standards Women are held to insanely high standards but god forbid we want a tall man. Why do women even present the standards that some men hold them to as being "insane", but keep going for those men and keep holding men to such high standards while rejecting the men who don't want these high standards appl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 10:52 PM
3	Men don’t want relationships, they want service Plenty of us men just want relationships with intimacy and equality, rather than all this shit. But we aren't the sort of men that women tend to want and tend to date. Women complain so much about how all these men they date have all these problems... but keep going for those types of men anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 06:53 AM
1	Fair feminists exist and they get hate from both men and many feminist women Wage gap is an issue, but a complicated one, since explicit discrimination can play a role, but so too can preferences informed by gender roles (which the newer trendier "reactionary feminism" seems to be perfectly fine with), and to some extent these things could be due to men being more pressured to be the "provider" and pursue the most economically lucrative fields while women get more acceptance for "following their dream" regardless of what it is... there's a lot of feminist talk about how …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 03:56 PM
3	Fair feminists exist and they get hate from both men and many feminist women Like we’ve gotten to the point where the only accepted feminist is one who focuses on men’s rights. It would be enough for many, to simply support both men's rights and women's rights, and not be immensely dismissive of men, but that's too hard for some, and the feminists who do consistently apply egalitarianism consistently for all can increasingly be labeled as some sort of pick me coward for not being more exclusively pro woman	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 03:48 PM
10	How many would you say there are genuinely good guys When around 2/3 of Americans think financial success requires at least six digit income, while only around 1/4 of American workers make six figures and half make around $45k or less, it wouldn't be surprising for folks to think that a large chunk of men are failures	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/26 11:05 AM
0	How many would you say there are genuinely good guys Seems like there's a decent amount of cultural shift towards a kneejerk reaction of assuming that a guy is just a "Nice guy(tm)" or "performative predator" or whatever else, even if he genuinely is good, has principles, a moral compass that he acts on, and so on. And with there being no way to dispute the kneejerk reactions of doubt because "truly nice people would never say they are nice", "a hit dog will holler", etc. So "genuinely good guy" can be less about how someone actually acts, and mor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/26 10:59 AM
-2	Men don’t need empathy from women. They need compassion Vast majority of women want just the "best" ideal masculine men and are harshly judgemental towards men who don't meet those narrow standards	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 12:30 AM
1	I think men’s desired # of kids is higher than women’s desired # of kids Hm. Maybe it's something women would just rather compromise on to get an otherwise ideal partner, vs get a subpar partner who doesn't want kids then	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 12:29 AM
-2	Men don’t need empathy from women. They need compassion Things are on both men and women. Seems like women don't want to take any responsibility at all for their role in upholding the very patrosrchy so many complain about	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 12:28 AM
-3	Men don’t need empathy from women. They need compassion The vast majority of men aren't doing that, yet women judge men as a whole for that (while still going for the type of trad hypermasculine men more likely to cause those problems in the first place, and smearing the nice guys as the real problem). Its not reasonable at all	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 07:32 PM
1	I think men’s desired # of kids is higher than women’s desired # of kids I don't want any kids and it seems like most women want kids	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 07:28 PM
1	Why are men expected to "chase?" Of course nobody’s gonna want you if you don’t wanna put in any effort into anything. Plenty of men are fine with women who don't make effort though, sucks it doesn't go both ways Although I am curious what you consider these “high levels of effort” to be that “a lot” of women are demanding? Do you think most women are making unreasonable demands when it comes to the effort their potential partner puts into their relationship? Like what?… Have a job, have a home, have a car? Or are you talking a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 05:15 PM
2	Why are men expected to "chase?" At this point, they really just want you to put in at least 50% of the effort, which based on my observations, is too much to ask from modern men. I think part of the issue is different expectations of what level of effort is ideal. Seems like a decent chunk of guys want 50/50 effort but also are more than fine with a simple, easy, "low effort" relationship, whereas a lot of women want much higher levels of effort from both partners, make higher effort even if it is unpleasant so they can increa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 03:17 AM
–	DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 None. All the under-30 women I know will quickly get new partners and are rarely single for more than a week or two. Not just the ones who go out and party frequently and seem like "the type" but the quiet homebodies too. If a woman is single for more than a few weeks, their friends will usually make a big deal about it and try to help find them someone new	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 03:11 AM
–	DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 I'm worried because there seems to be a lot more political polarization and loyalty these days, and fewer swing voters, so there's the chance that a lot of voters just shrug and accept their "god emperor", with this stuff causing less backlash than the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars eventually did	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 03:07 AM
–	DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Not adhering to societal standards of masculine gender roles or neurotypicality. Not everything is about looks - personality standards can also be extremely restrictive when it comes to men, with women harshly judging men who are neurodivergent/unmasculine	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 03:05 AM
2	It makes more sense for women to chase men than for men to chase women. Anecdotally, a lot of women will complain about conservative men... but they often end up with guys who are conservative anyway. Especially after the mid 2010s where there did seem to be a period where a lot of women were open to unmasculine lefty guys, but after that point there's been a lot more attempts to justify assuming that such men are "performative" and "fake" and such, and/or finding ways to argue that actually its reasonable for progressive women to expect men to still do traditional …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 11:31 PM
3	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? Women and men are people, and men and women are far less different than pop culture consistently insists. The supposed differences are largely social constructs rather than natural, inherent, and unchanging. The excuse of "its just nature!" has so often historically been used to justify unnecessary and unfair stuff, and there seems little reason to think its different in this case	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 11:24 PM
1	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? Women are the ones who have been trying to get rid of gender roles because they overwhelmingly benefit men. Gender roles hurt both men and women, and should be opposed for both men and women. Women have complained a lot about gender roles and beauty standards, and if its ok for them to do so, it should be perfectly acceptable for men to "lose our shit" over it too. Both men and women should simply be consistent about it and oppose it for both sides rather than only for themselves. All guys like …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 11:22 PM
6	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? Something tells me you're still imaging cute girlie women who are merely not instagram models Those aren't 'unfeminine women' That's always the assumption - "you CAN'T really be imagining unfeminine women, because... you just CAN'T ok!" There's no way to disprove it in conversation because the whole point seems to be total unwillingness to consider the possibility that some men don't have those standards	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:39 PM
1	The Manosphere Preys on Immaturity, Not Misogyny or Entitlement whereas men's problems are self-inflicted due to their laziness, selfishness and entitlement. A lot of men's problems can also be attributed in no small part to patriarchy and capitalism, and to old/dead powerful men harming regular men. This approach of just blaming individual regular men for problems created by society goes against actual feminist and leftist ideology, in favor of inconsistently applying libertarian individualism to the demographic deemed on social media to be an acceptable ta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:29 PM
0	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? Wanting privilege is disgusting, its sad that so many want it. Privilege is dehumanizing	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:24 PM
6	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? People could always just stop caring so much about what is seen as traditionally attractive. Plenty of men accept women who don't adhere to traditional gender roles, so it wouldn't kill women to do the same in reverse. The demand for traditional gender roles isn't something that can't change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:23 PM
0	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? Situation is - lots of women don't want equal deal. And that sucks. Equality is inherently good	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:22 PM
2	Sending Wifey Back to School is a TRAP!! DO NOT DO IT! 5) Not to mention well established 'risks' of her earning more & being more educated! You'll resent her! I'd be happy to be with someone who was more educated, and I don't care about money 3) She's not investing in YOUR future, you're investing in hers!! I guess this implies that the guy has to be paying for her education? But she could always go back to school and pay for it herself Common mechanisms reported in the literature: less time together, decreased desire/time for intimacy, role confli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:21 PM
9	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? Women are very much expected to look, dress, and act feminine, if they want to have relationships with men. If they want to have relationships with traditionally masculine men. A lot of unmasculine men out there who would accept unfeminine women, but even unfeminine women want the masculine men (and increasingly find reasons to argue that unmasculine men are "performative" and "problematic" even when they aren't inconsistent and just want equality to go both ways)	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:17 PM
5	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? and frankly unmanly Women no longer need to be feminine, so a lot of men don't want to need to be masculine anymore. Fair's fair. Sucks that fairness is seen as repulsive in romance for some reason	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:15 PM
1	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? heteropessimist A lot of "heteropessimism" seems to come from folks who want to have their cake and eat it too, when it comes to standards and norms in romance, and will complain about traditional expectations as applied to women but then also get mad when a lot of men are down with removing those expectations from women but don't want to have to adhere to traditional roles and norms themselves	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:13 PM
5	Why does it seem like only in pill communities are men failing with women? he once admitted to me he shares a few incel views on how women favour taller, handsome guys (without the animosity involved of course). And this is part of the issue - people talk from both sides of their mouth on this, half the time incels are a tiny fringe of just the most hateful entitled evil men, and the other half of the time any sort of complaining about being alone is seen as making a man an incel. Also these complaints about women's standards can come straight out of feminist theory re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:11 PM
7	Women's insecurities are considered "cute" and endearing, but men's insecurities are called toxic. and this isn’t gendered. It does seem gendered. If you look at these insecurities you list, they are ones associated with traditional masculinity, dominance, and such. Whereas if a man has insecurities but they just make him look weak and unmasculine, and the man doesn't use the insecurities as an excuse to control a woman, those insecurities are seen as undesirable - despite them being less toxic and harmful. Sucks that somehow the more toxic ways of being insecure are the positive ones	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 05:03 PM
7	Why does it seem like only in pill communities are men failing with women? the only difference is that feminist, leftie males tend to be less vocal about their woes Yeah, I have strong left wing/feminist leaning stances, and I'd never complain about dating struggles anywhere but online. Doing it IRL is a quick and easy way to get ostracized, cancelled, and seen as a far right woman hater	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 04:53 PM
2	Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men? If that were the case, women wouldn't continue to expect unfair traditional gender roles and beauty standards of men, now that women get to walk away from that stuff themselves. But instead a lot of women only consider a situation "equal" if they get to have their cake and eat it too	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 04:50 PM
1	It makes more sense for women to chase men than for men to chase women. In my personal experience, it seems like a lot of lefty women go for right leaning/conventionally masculine men. With the whole "lefty in the streets, patriarchy in the sheets/in relationships" thing being pretty normalized. I'd be happy with a lefty woman but I'm never going to go out of my way to perform traditional expectations when I don't expect them from women, which causes problems	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 04:47 PM
–	Preferences make sense when it’s about characteristics that aren’t immutable, otherwise it’s bigotry. Dating is also the most socially acceptable form of being a bigot, and nothing will really change that. A wonderfully myopic take by a man completely unaware of just how many minority men inflict their violent self hatred and white worship on non-white women Maybe this sort of issue exists among men and women, and should be opposed from both sides If that outcome bothers you, the issue isn’t women’s standards. It’s what men are offering. Problem can be both women's and men's standards, with both being too fixated on traditional patriarchal and white supremacist standards	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 05:46 PM
2	Women’s Selective Traditionalism Fuels the Red Pill I'd gladly go for those women, but they still usually want the conventionally masculine men in my experience. Seems like there's a lot of "diverges from gender norms proudly in the streets, still wants a conventional patriarchal masculine man in the sheets" norm in relationships these days	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 05:34 PM
1	Women’s Selective Traditionalism Fuels the Red Pill And fucking around but wanting to marry a virgin? That’s not selective traditionalism? Not wanting to be the sole provider but expecting women to be uneducated? That’s not selective traditionalism? Everyone does it. Plenty of us don't. Women often complain when men do those things but don't want the men who don't do those things	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 05:02 PM
1	Women’s Selective Traditionalism Fuels the Red Pill Plenty of us men don't care about a woman femininely presenting at all, yet are still expected to masculinely present ourselves. The double standard can be frustrating	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 05:00 PM
2	Women’s Selective Traditionalism Fuels the Red Pill Everyone engages in selective traditionalism, not just women. I have asked every boyfriend if they wanted to be proposed to, and they have said no. They actively wanted to do it. My boyfriend wants to lead and I am happy to see him do that. We know that when it’s time to have kids, he actively does not want to be the primary parent (the parent that takes off work and sacrifices their career and whatnot for benefit of the child). But I do. You've experienced guys like that, but plenty of us do ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 04:59 PM
1	It makes more sense for women to chase men than for men to chase women. I always hear the whole provide, protect and lead from men A lot of men feel like they need to do it in order to please women, and that if they don't make that effort, women just won't be into them. It can feel like even the women who talk a lot about how gender roles and traditions are bad when applied to women still expect these traditional roles from men. Are there actually a lot of women out there who would genuinely accept regular men who don't do those things and have more equal, less gend…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 04:45 PM
2	It makes more sense for women to chase men than for men to chase women. I just want equality, and think it would be nice if both men and women were open to approaching. I also think the ideas of "chasing" and "treating people like queens" and all this leader and provider and protected stuff seems way unnecessary, and that it would be nice if people were satisfied with more normal and equal relationships where they both made effort for the same sorts of things and just tried to naturally grow together	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 04:42 PM
-1	We should try to convince women to appreciate non-financial value in male partners. It's one thing to need a partner who is earning sonething and contributing to paying the bills, and another thing for their earning power to be the most important thing though. In many areas, it's necessary to have a dual income household but people can get by on two mediocre incomes rather than genuinely needing a guy to be an above average earner and such, and for that to be the most important thing a guy can do, with other stuff not mattering	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 04:35 PM