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AFAIK Asians actually have a thicker dermis and oilier skin which helps age less.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 04:23 PM
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I mean I don't believe in beta providers, orbiters obviously exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 03:46 PM
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Yeah, a virgin who deliberately refrained from sex for moral beliefs wouldn't be compatible but I wouldn't mind at all if it was someone with high standards who'd just never met the right person. Being compared to an ex can indeed be an issue. I just tend to focus more on personal compatibility - being with a person you truly love is something quite different, anyone can learn and a good person will NEVER say "X was better than you". I guess it's true that it can be hard to find a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:35 AM
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Sure, it's a matter of compatibility anyway. I guess a virgin wouldn't be entirely comfortable with me, but I usually make friends with more social, liberal men who've been around the block and have a similar attitude towards sex (it's a wonderful connection of intimacy and vulnerability but not a degrading act or something to be "saved"), so we've never had any problems. I guess "sexually insecure" was a bit unfair but I can't see someone with a high n-count and high sex drive being happy with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 11:16 AM
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I'm a bit of a slut and no one has ever cared, stop settling with sexually insecure men ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:23 AM
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Technology and isolation is the downfall. When people actually have friends, have emotional IQ and see each other as individuals it's much less of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:17 AM
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I don't believe in betas. Orbiters, if they eventually learn not to be a doormat and be obsessed with a single person, can learn to talk to women and date her friends. I've seen this a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 10:01 AM
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This could be it. It's not like attraction isn't important for a relationship, and less attractive people can't be shitheads, but beyond being able to get your dick up personality is the number one thing to focus on - watch how they treat everyone else and what their beliefs are. I (female) am probably no great physical catch and a complete failure in life but I've had LTRs with men who have a shitload of options, approached by hotter girls left and right, and I've still been loved until persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:54 AM
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Damn those are harsh af. I think you have a problem choosing genuinely good people to date, I'm not sure how to remedy that. Getting to the top 10% without learning how to vet might bring you even more problems. I find people with low self esteem and vulnerability repeatedly get exploited and abused even if they're hot and amazing, I don't know if this is your problem though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:37 AM
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I haven't known an objectively ugly man who got laid all the time but almost all of them did get a girlfriend at some point. And I don't mean average, I mean the bottom 5%. I just know a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:21 PM
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Mine: Looks (fairly subjective taste but very important) Confident/social enough to at least respond to my autistic advances Intelligent (analytical, wide knowledge, accepting of different opinions)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:08 AM
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Probably only if he has like a micropenis, otherwise it's not necessary and weird
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:14 PM
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Only current bf is a tech bro, and when we lived near his friends we'd still hang out together. With others we'd hang out alone or in a group, they weren't really into male friend groups. Obviously my perspective is specific because I'm obviously friends with the type of guys who have mixed gender social circles, but the boyfriends I've met on OLD were also like that. I probably wouldn't have much in common with a guy who only has male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:10 PM
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Stand up comedy is cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 03:22 PM
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Almost every man I've ever dated wanted to spend most of his free time with me. I usually don't see men even having that many friends, certainly not in their thirties. In fact I've seen it speculated that one of the causes of poor mental health in men is that their partner is the only person they can open up to, while women usually have a wide support system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 03:21 PM
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Honestly my only qualm is that if I have sex and like it further sex isn't guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:40 AM
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If you can afford it, travel is probably the best way to get a suitable partner. I don't think I could be happy with a man from my own country. Many fear cultural differences but I find them fairly small within the same social class and it adds interest to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:37 AM
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Wouldn't it be a bit easier than importing a Russian?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 10:34 AM
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Why don't Americans get Mexican wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 08:16 AM
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That REALLY depends on the antidepressant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 08:11 AM
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I've always lived in rich white neighborhoods. And Turks are not short
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:45 AM
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I've lived in Germany and this was not a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:36 AM
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This is cultural, doesn't really happen in my country or at least neighborhood (I've had things thrown at me for being "ugly" elsewhere)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:14 PM
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Nah. And edging only results in multiple shitty ones, I only do it out of complete boredom. Meanwhile some of the guys I've been with had those huge eye-rolling orgasms for what seemed like minutes, I wonder what it's like
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:27 PM
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Well fuck, I guess I'm a man then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:30 PM
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Housewives only became a thing in my country in the 90s after the fall of the USSR and westernization. Thankfully we still have awareness of different modes of living and pretty good equality, but the American gender war bullshit seems to be rearing up in the most recent years. I hope it's just a passing trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 04:21 PM
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It's not as set in stone and biological as you think. A LOT depends on other factors. As I've aged and gained experience with men, my standards have become a lot broader - when I was a teenager I thought only short, dark and very feminine men were attractive and despaired because those are really rare in my country. I only felt attracted to an ideal face because I was viewing them as a collection of attributes and not a person. When I started actually talking to men and vibing with them I found …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:32 PM
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It's not biological like the woman with a beard is. Women in my country don't care about height nearly as much, even my absolute bitch goldigger ex-friend dates men her height. I've seen at least as many popular short men as tall ones, and vice versa for the uglies. It's a weird cultural American thing, probably for status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:22 PM
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Yeah, this seems to be a weird American thing, why are they like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:09 PM
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People are obviously gonna be myopic in considering only their own feelings and experience, but claiming to have scientific insights and then relying on "Leave It To Beaver" as their entire historical knowledge is something else. Read a history book, read Zola, read anything about the realities of 99% of people in history and not a middle class status symbol "angel in the house" ideal that started in the 19th century. Women have always worked. Peasants and factory workers weren't keeping their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 02:02 PM
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I was bullied and called ugly all throughout school so I thought I'd feel successful if I was pretty and attracted hot men. Well it hasn't helped. Okay, being ugly in the same situation would be worse but I'd rather be successful and think my life wasn't wasted, than sit here pumped up on meds and still hating the fuck out of myself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:20 PM
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This is such a difficult, age-old question. I'm in my 30s so the people around me have already mostly settled down, but the broken relationships I've seen didn't usually result from "too many available options". It's not about having a collection of attributes in a partner, it's about being with someone and sharing yourself with them. It's a really difficult thing to do when you feel bad about yourself, have difficulty getting along with people and can't fully open up. It's just hard to spend so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:57 AM
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Im so fucking fed up with everyone thinking the 1950s constitute the entire human history
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:19 PM
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That's a good attitude. I feel like all of them overgeneralize and none sufficiently stress the value of going out into the world, really learning to understand people and making unbiased observations. People really act in WEIRD fucking ways that don't conform to any general theory I've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:30 AM
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My ex had a lot of demons but I didn't know that at first and I think he was a genuinely good person at heart, which drew me to him. I think his abuse stemmed from his own self-hatred, confusion and fucked up upbringing. And these people are great at making you blame yourself for it and themselves the victim, I'm still living with what he said to me many years after. Just had a therapy session about it this week - he hit me where it hurts and made me feel like I'm the bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:35 AM
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Maybe if I was guaranteed a Nobel prize in literature or some sort of worldwide fame, but tbh I don't think that would make me much happier. I can't really see myself outside this relationship right now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:30 AM
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Go out and make some friends, plenty of us here are speaking from life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:23 AM
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Can't offer you any theory shit but my boyfriend has had an obscene number of partners including LTRs with very successful and attractive women, and yet he stays with my crazy ass for zero discernible reason. I've been in "open relationships" with attractive men who might have done way better than me and neither of us just wanted anyone else, it ended up monogamous. Just some lived experiences ¯\(ツ)/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:46 AM
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I think there are more mentally ill fuckers than most people realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:36 AM
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Maybe not pigging exactly but I have hung out with guys talking about everyone they've fucked, want to fuck and how much of a slut one or the other girl is. Their attractiveness didn't factor much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:33 AM
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Lol, definitely not where I live. I think most people here are pretty good looking and fit so the guy was even more of an anomaly. The moral of the story is, being ugly doesn't make you a good person or appreciate others more. People are complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:10 PM
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No, I thought she was very decent looking. His being a photographer was probably attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:00 PM
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You think that guy isn't good looking?? What am I reading
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:54 PM
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Nah, as I said higher up, one of the fattest men I've ever met was beating his girlfriend. It's hard to go lower
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:42 PM
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I just remembered, I wanted to say the ugliest guy I've met didn't make it after all, but he did, he had a fairly average girlfriend at some point. Whack.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:40 PM
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What you choose to "hear" is your problem. I've actually seen things in real life. I don't know why they dated them, people like the darndest things. They did have some intelligence or interesting life experience, people just mesh well sometimes even when everyone else goes "what does she see in him"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:37 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:31 PM
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Ugly guys don't necessarily appreciate the opportunities they get. I knew a desperate morbidly obese guy (bad person for other reasons) who bought iPhones for women he wasn't even dating. Well he got to date one and started beating her. Another ugly one forbid his girlfriend from hanging out with her friends. The ugliest one I've ever known tried to pick me up by negging, and another one wanted to cheat on his wife with me. Conversely, I know many very attractive men who are kind and relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:20 PM
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Ugly guys don't treat women any better than hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 09:11 PM
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I think it is a rare individual who really tries to understand the experiences of others at all, especially dating. I think the best advantage is hanging out in an all-opposite gender friend group, but I don't know which gender does it more commonly. I think women's experiences are much more often reported in Western media, as women are probably more willing to talk about their emotional lives, but I don't always find it very insightful or realistic - lots of "fuckbois be like this amirite gurls…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:45 PM
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Plenty of HLFs in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:09 PM
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While I really enjoy wry observations about human behavior and dislike glib "just b urself bro" optimism, I think it balances out negative on the whole. Defeatism and negativity is a REALLY big problem, not just in that you feel bad about yourself, but it also poisons all your interactions and leads to bad choices. It is extremely hard and complicated to work on (I know, I've been there and still am), but retreating into extensive theorizing does little in the real world, especially when so much…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:46 PM
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What good is it to learn from other incels though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:11 PM
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People can be shit. Unfortunately sometimes we're surrounded by shit people and there's nothing we can do. I might venture that older and more intelligent women would not play those games, but I don't know what the dating culture is like where you're at.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:10 PM
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lrn2bodylanguage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:39 PM
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Always has been
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:07 AM
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Don't you mean avo psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:07 AM
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From what I've read the most successful relationships are where both partners think the other is better than them. Now to engineer something like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:05 AM
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Good point, however some caveats: social anxiety and cultural circumstances. It can genuinely hard for social retards to tell nervousness or politeness from disinterest, speaking as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 08:03 AM
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This can be a good idea for someone who's very intent on being in a LTR, can't vet men very well and isn't driven by sex. For me I went into situations expecting nothing and even when I got dumb, caught feelings and got hurt, I have no regrets because "doesn't matter, had sex". I just like dick
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:52 AM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:41 AM
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What in the gopnik and prostitute world is this environment. I imagine this is true for superficial low-intellect beings who act on lizard brain instinct or arrange their lives based on TV shows, but literally no one I know is actually like this. For an n of one, some of my most vivid memories of my exes is them crying in my arms. I remember how warm and strong their bodies felt and how close we were, and I genuinely miss those moments. I sometimes relive them in my dreams and wake up with a lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:38 AM
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Maybe you should have a disclaimer then to warn the rest of us. Lord knows we have enough American media bullshit spreading around the world
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 08:19 PM
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/teenage-girls-have-been-revolutionizing-language-16th-century-180956216/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:36 PM
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Are you aware that multiple mental illnesses exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:25 PM
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Well, that was the vibe I got from reading the sidebar resources. They seem to stress a lot of superficialities, perhaps for ease of comprehension or I don't know. Of course respect is mandatory, perhaps I've been lucky to encounter mostly respectful men, but I'm not interested in being impressed with an expensive dinner or deliberately waiting for sex if I like a guy. I'd rather message them first, ask them out, ask to kiss them, be at least as forward as they are (with German guys I should hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:37 PM
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There's nothing feminist about passively waiting to be paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:18 PM
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Does the sub say it's for USA only?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:37 PM
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Crazy woman wants to marry the Berlin Wall: PROOF EVIL WOMEN ARE SECRETLY ATTRACTED TO WALLS NONE OF YOU ORGANIC BETAS CAN COMPETE
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:06 PM
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Well, I'm in my 30s so no longer in the hookup scene and in fact salty because everyone is getting married and no longer hanging out. (quarantining with my boyfriend is quite pleasant though) However, I used to live in a university town in Western Europe with a crazy hookup culture, and it wasn't as toxic as I often hear online. A lot of people were sleeping around with no hard feelings, and just as many were getting into relationships that have lasted for up to 10 years now. It was about an eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:24 PM
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Exactly. I have no idea how they came up with the expectation that a confident and successful man with any options will wine and dine an angry femcel for two months for her to put out, no matter how hot she is. Is this an American thing? They have the very right idea of rejecting assholes and being happy single, but waiting around for a prince Charming to break down your defenses isn't gonna work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:48 PM
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I recently went through it and they're either deluded or we have an extreme cultural difference, as I am a middle class European. They seem to assume the harder a man pursues you, the higher quality he is. I've experienced the exact opposite - only trashy or desperate men pursue women who play hard to get, and missing subtle cues from good, reserved men is a surefire way to end up with an abuser or crazy person. I've experienced and seen this in action, not just with women who play hard to get, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:27 PM
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I think so. Some relationships ended up really badly but I think we were all trying to our best, even though we didn't have enough self-knowledge or idea of what is appropriate. I'm still friendly or civil with all the exes I have contact with. I believe most people I've met are inherently good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 01:42 PM
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I haven't seen them make the same weird decisions as I constantly hear about from Americans. Most people my age I've known are in stable, evenly matched relationships, it's your personal choice to assume they're secretly having some sort of sexual mismatch. And Freud was on a shitload of cocaine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 01:05 PM
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I mean, I just don't know what to say when your experiences are so different from mine. From the people I know, many women have high sex drives and many men have low ones. Men might be more open to having unattached sex but this is not a hard rule. I actually used to be more wary of men and expected them to only be motivated by sex but it turned out harmful even to me and feelings were hurt all around. I hang out in a more "bohemian" crowd and understand that more traditional/mainstream people h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 12:32 PM
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It looks like we live in quite different worlds because our experiences simply don't match. Nothing I can say to you that will shake your theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:34 AM
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This must be an American thing because I've never seen it happen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:29 PM
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WAT? It costs me exactly zero dollars to ignore someone I don't like I might be insane but I believe most of the guys I've had serious talks with were roughly on my intelligence and attractiveness level. I probably hang out with and attract people I actually like. Sounds like you need some skill in filtering and lots of mental health improvement. I know girls like you who attract scum, they all have low confidence and a victim vibe. Not knowing how to say no is a serious danger. Abused people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:07 PM
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What I was saying about the gay men I know, they had access to all the sex they wanted and deliberately chose not to. Like living in the desert where there's no humans in a 50 km radius, much less other gay guys. So we seem to agree that men feel they need sex but can go without it for some time. Honestly... the women I personally know are like that too. Like I said, there are those who will fuck anything out of an urge, but a lot of them mention wanting a relationship to have sex, or being unha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:43 PM
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He was from an Arab country, the other guys made fun of him for being so sex starved "like a dog off his chain". Most other men I've met don't need food like sex or at least have pretty high standards. Incidentally, the other huge Middle Eastern manwhore I met was upfront and honest so he was friends with all the girls and no hard feelings, while the first one was kinda widely disliked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:38 PM
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Yes, I've met a ruthless guy like this. I don't think he did it to be evil but was so intent on having sex he'd pretend to be really into the girl to the point of saying he's in love, and then move on to another one asap. That's pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:20 PM
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Why is sigma below beta when it's objectively the best of the three?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:10 PM
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What in the fuck is this country. Where I am cashiers are 50/50 and males are quietly preferred for nursing assistants and childcare. I know this specifically because a while ago I was applying to work at private kindergartens and they told me they'd rather hire a man if they could. In converse some of my female friends wish they could work in construction which pays really well but women are 100% not hired for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:46 PM
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I find some of the things you say confusing. What you're getting at is that men can endure being without sex for some time like a month, but in time they'll start pursuing less attractive options? I haven't found that to be universal at all - a friend came to mind who dated a cool chick for a month but broke up with her because "she wanted to have sex all the time and I just want to focus on my studies", then continued to avoid the dating scene for over half a year until I introduced him to onli…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:09 PM
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It's quite interesting to talk to you. I admit I'm female but I've spent a lot of time both reading men's experiences to understand their psychology and point of view, and observing men irl. Obviously they won't be completely honest with a woman in their midst (although my friends talked VERY openly about who they've fucked, want to fuck and complained about their misfortunes), but a certain point you realize they're not nearly socially skillful enough to completely conceal an overwhelming need …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:07 PM
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I have a pretty large amount of life experience with lots of people and psychological knowledge, and what you're describing isn't even common for the 4chan incels I've talked to. I'm pretty concerned for you. It doesn't sound like a sex drive, it sounds like a psychological problem. Unfortunately I know the all-reddit refrain "just get therapy" is kinda useless as therapy is hard to access, a lot of therapists are shit and your thinking doesn't sound like a clear-cut "depressive disorder" or ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:10 AM
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Dude I honestly think there might be something physically and definitely mentally wrong with you, this really isn't normal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:59 PM
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I'm a 30s female. My close friends are a really mixed bag. We have very different lifestyles and goals. From the few I talk to during quarantine: one is in a great stable relationship, another in a decent one, one is a lonely and frustrated lesbian, one is in an abusive relationship, one is too fucked up right now to even think about men, one is polyamorous and dating whoever she wants, including a couple. My lesbian friend just doesn't have a wide enough social circle to meet other lesbians and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:02 PM
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