ejp1082 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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10	The MRM Makes Me Sad And a lot of that part of the problem is that the only contact most people (notably feminists) have with "Men's Rights Activists" are the trolls, misogynists, and whiners in the comment sections of popular feminist blogs. What's lacking is actual organizations and spokespeople who can credibly say "Those idiots don't represent us". As naming problems go, I don't think the problem is with "Men" nearly as much as "Rights". "Rights" is a loaded word that conjures images of civil injustices and lega…	/r/MensRights	16/04/14 06:00 PM
38	Women negotiate 7% of salaries while men 57% (found on TIL) A lot of it has to do with what happens when women do try to negotiate: Their study, which was coauthored by Carnegie Mellon researcher Lei Lai, found that men and women get very different responses when they initiate negotiations. Although it may well be true that women often hurt themselves by not trying to negotiate, this study found that women's reluctance was based on an entirely reasonable and accurate view of how they were likely to be treated if they did. Both men and women were more lik…	/r/MensRights	21/03/14 02:52 PM
2	I wish more women would understand the kind of predicament this puts men in The bottom line is we do not discuses gender issues anymore. It is a taboo topic for our relationship. That's not a healthy relationship. You don't have to agree with your partner on everything, and you can even disagree on big things (hell I think it'd be a boring relationship if you agreed on everything all the time). But when you can't even voice opinions on a given subject with one another... the relationship is pretty much doomed.	/r/MensRights	21/02/14 10:23 PM
0	I wish more women would understand the kind of predicament this puts men in Masochism/submissiveness is the only fetish that women have to any measurable degree. But at least from what I recall from what I've read on the subject, there's still more submissive men than submissive women.	/r/MensRights	21/02/14 10:17 PM
8	I wish more women would understand the kind of predicament this puts men in But because it doesn't feel as intimate. Sure when I'm on top there's more full body skin contact. But when she's on top I can actually see her face (and she mine) rather than a pillow. That to me feels way more intimate. Just my humble opinion on the subject. To each their own, I say.	/r/MensRights	21/02/14 10:07 PM
1	Women can't be sexist It's groceries and home supplies. Women do most of the supermarket shopping. And food is a pretty fixed part of the household budget, so the less money you make the bigger a proportion of your budget it is. In a poorer household it can easily be 80% all by itself.	/r/MensRights	19/02/14 06:17 PM
1	TV Critic Asks Lena Dunham Why She's Always Naked on 'Girls," Gets Called A Misogynist. Well first, your statements are qualitatively different. "Naked a lot" does not equal "always naked". And in any case, that's exactly the point. No one would even ask "Why does your character eat oranges a lot?" because it's just a thing people do sometimes. For you or I or anyone else, being naked is about as remarkable as eating an orange. We shower naked. We have sex naked. We might even sleep naked or occasionally walk around our home naked. It's just a thing people do. So the unusual thing …	/r/MensRights	11/01/14 12:40 AM
31	TV Critic Asks Lena Dunham Why She's Always Naked on 'Girls," Gets Called A Misogynist. I thought her initial answer was pretty good actually, communicating the same idea with fewer words. "because people are naked sometimes". I think the problem was she heard implied "people don't want to see you naked, if you're naked it should be titillating and you're not" And I can even sort of see where she got that from, given how he prefaced it with saying he understood the nudity in game of thrones because it's titillating. It was still something of an overreaction though, in my opinion.	/r/MensRights	10/01/14 08:34 PM
1	Men who prefer slim women are called shallow. 98.8% of women won't message a short man because of "biological preference." Yep	/r/MensRights	10/12/13 06:55 PM
2	Men who prefer slim women are called shallow. 98.8% of women won't message a short man because of "biological preference." Yeah exactly. Attraction is attraction. We have minimal control over who we find attractive or don't. It's not fair to the short guys, the fat girls, people with skin conditions, etc, but there's really no use spending too much time worrying about it. I mean what's the alternative, insist someone go out with you despite their lacking any physical desire for you? How is that good for anyone?	/r/MensRights	10/12/13 05:35 PM
1	Men who prefer slim women are called shallow. 98.8% of women won't message a short man because of "biological preference." In fairness it's kind of off putting when you bring this up before the date. It suggests a certain miserliness which no one likes. In my entire life I've never met a girl who expected me to pay for her on a date. But it was never discussed ahead of time. We'd just get the check and go "Okay how much to I owe?" because that's what normal non-jerk people do.	/r/MensRights	10/12/13 05:27 PM
4	Essentially how it goes. Because it's better for society and we as taxpayers to ensure that the children who get born are both wanted and planned for by their parents.	/r/MensRights	11/11/13 04:46 PM
18	“Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.” Boys are developmentally about 1.5 - 2 years behind girls in the earliest grades, especially with language acquisition, so girls often pick up reading and writing more quickly regardless of teacher. You've got to be really careful with this. The average girl will be ahead the average boy, that doesn't mean all girls will be ahead of all boys. When it comes to these things, it's usually the case that the difference within groups is much greater than the difference between groups. If you're going …	/r/MensRights	31/10/13 09:56 PM
1	Reddit is waking up to feminist falsehoods by rejecting the myth that men make more money than women for the same work. It's an inconvenience, sometimes, but it's hardly the end of the world. Kids have had legal guardians with different last names since forever. I think the most egalitarian thing to do if you really want you and your spouse and kids to all share the same last name is to invent a new one when you get married. Put both of you through the insane PITA that is changing your name on any and all your accounts and legal documents.	/r/MensRights	13/09/13 02:50 PM
14	Hi guys, I'm a female redditor and I have to say that I am disgusted about the double standards I've been seeing lately. The thing that ended up annoying me the most is that of the 15 people who were outside at the time it started, not a single one of them did anything. Bystander effect	/r/MensRights	04/09/13 05:47 PM
3	Bill Watterson on living for yourself I don't think there's any person among us who wouldn't value spending more time with loved ones given the option. Giving up the steady income of an unfulfilling job to make a really risky bet that probably won't pay off (we hear these sentiments from the few who succeed - it's funny we don't hear it from the people who gave up everything to take a shot at being a cartoonist and never succeeded.) isn't really an option when you've got mouths to feed. Leaving money on the table is something few pe…	/r/MensRights	28/08/13 03:20 PM
8	Why the use of "privilege" by SJWs is annoying. Well said. My biggest gripe with it is simply that it doesn't help solve the problems it supposedly illuminates. I have "White privilege", I don't get stopped by the cops nearly as often and I'm treated better when I do. What am I supposed to do about that? It seems want to shift the responsibility from the people doing the discriminating (biased cops) to the people who merely don't suffer discrimination and are powerless to change things (the "privileged"). I don't see how that's helpful or use…	/r/MensRights	22/08/13 03:47 PM
-2	Real men have curves! Men are held to a much Higher yard stick in terms of what is deemed to be attractive via the media and corporations. To achieve a body as shown on the left you need to work out 4-5 times a week, need to be constantly dieting and is a complete lifestyle choice which takes years and years to perfect. whereas for a female to achieve what is deemed to be attractive via media/corporations she would need to diet and do minimal exercise. The guy on the left isn't conventionally attractive, isn't what t…	/r/MensRights	13/08/13 03:55 PM
11	Paedophile rapist sentenced to 16 months prison, will be free in a week for time served. Yes, she's a woman. Hebephilia or Ephebophilia. Though they only apply if there's a specific preference for those age groups to the exclusion of others. Otherwise it's just a person with fairly normal sexuality that shows poor judgment and/or self control. Statutory rapist is really the most-correct term based on the information available.	/r/MensRights	02/08/13 04:55 PM
5	Paedophile rapist sentenced to 16 months prison, will be free in a week for time served. Yes, she's a woman. We don't know that she doesn't also like adult men though, so it's impossible to say if it's a preference or not based on the information in the article.	/r/MensRights	02/08/13 04:55 PM
2	Can someone explain to me why Anthony Weiner is "sexist"? I mean if we extend their logic out to the rest of the world, I have objectified my mechanic just because I only see him when my car needs some work I'm not qualified to do myself. To extend this, because you treat this one guy as a mechanic-object, it means you must see all men as nothing but mechanic-objects, and that you see men who aren't as mechanic-y as less valuable than men with huge garages. You're a monster for having a car that needs fixing once in a while and keeping on eye out for t…	/r/MensRights	26/07/13 07:28 PM
10	Students in a Vancouver suburb protested a local strip club. A former exotic dancer takes a unique stand to protest their protest. (x-post r/Vancouver) - Imgur FWIW, "feminism" isn't a monolith. It's composed of various schools, not all of which agree on everything, and sometimes outright contradict one another. The question of sex work is one that divides feminists (mostly) along generational lines. Modern "third wave" feminists are generally sex positive, anti slut shaming, and are concerned with the ethics and safety of sex work but don't wish to prohibit it. The older generation (70's/80's) took a puritanical view of sex work, and simply couldn't/w…	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 08:34 PM
-3	Can We Try To Focus on Men's Rights, not "I Hate Feminists!" jokes? Yeah. There's enough problems already with the perception that all MRA's are just thinly veiled misogynists, and whenever there's an anti-feminism circlejerk it just serves up more evidence for that. The best thing you can do if you care about the issues is stick to the issues, and not attack anyone else.	/r/MensRights	31/12/12 05:32 PM
1	Possibly the worst possible concocted evidence for male privilege. "White" didn't even exist as a thing until the African slave trade started in the 16th-17th century or so. For most of the middle ages if you'd told an Englishman and a Frenchman they were the same race they'd have pulled a knife on you for the insult.	/r/MensRights	16/11/12 02:25 PM
2	I'd like to try this without getting arrested It's probably where we're headed. As someone else noted below, we evolved (culturally and genetically) in a world where the costs of of having sex were almost entirely born by women and not by men. Consequently women traditionally had to be very discriminating when it came to sex as a matter of survival, and explains why a male signalling his sexual desire would be seen as threatening. But that all changed with the introduction of cheap effective birth control for women in the 60's. Social norms…	/r/MensRights	03/11/12 09:16 PM
66	I'd like to try this without getting arrested Male sexuality is often considered disgusting, perverted, dirty and creepy. I don't understand why to be honest. Well, it's complicated, emerging from both sociocultural factors and probably a little bit of evolutionary psychology. Basically, there's gender roles. You're fine as long as you stay within accepted norms for them. Venture outside of them and you get in trouble though. Like, I'd point out that not all of male sexuality is taboo. Public display of alpha male traits, for example, is a …	/r/MensRights	03/11/12 04:30 PM
43	I'd like to try this without getting arrested The double standard here goes the other way, actually. Were the woman to take off her shirt completely, she'd be arrested. The guy could do the same without issue. Neither sex can show very much of their genital region before it becomes an issue. Which is stupid in both cases.	/r/MensRights	03/11/12 03:58 PM
1	Men's Rights and Women's Rights are both Human Rights All rights are human rights. All human beings have a right to equal protection, fair justice, dignity, liberty, etc. High level concepts that every issue talked about here as well as every issue talked about in /r/feminism and whatnot fit into. But the reason you break it down into men's rights, women's rights, LGBT rights, minority rights, worker rights, atheist rights etc is that there are issues that impact members of one sex/gender/ethnicity/religion/class and not others. And it's not a bad …	/r/MensRights	04/10/12 05:13 PM
3	Tumblr Feminism So you think there isn't at least some percentage of people in the pro-life movement who actually believe that the fetus has a soul or something like that? Sure. Polls suggest that there's at least some people who are entirely consistent with the belief a fetus is a person; they oppose abortion in all circumstances including rape. They are an inconsequential minority of the overall population though, ~15%, and they're not even a majority of the people who describe themselves as "pro-life" (link …	/r/MensRights	09/07/12 04:57 PM
-1	Tumblr Feminism Correct. I think we don't do anybody a favor by misrepresenting the oppostion as a bunch of evil people who just want to "control women's bodies." I don't think we do anyone a favor by letting the opposition claim their position comes from a place it clearly doesn't, as evidenced by their actual policy positions. Claiming they think a fetus is a human being is just a convenient emotional kludge to make their cause seem less vile than it is. If one truly believed that a fetus is the same thing as…	/r/MensRights	09/07/12 02:58 PM
5	Tumblr Feminism I'm not a libertarian so I'm playing the devil's advocate a bit. But their entire point of view is that if those services were important people would pay for them voluntarily; the government shouldn't decide what services you ought to pay for and then force you to pay for them. So you're not going to get very far with a libertarian using that line of reasoning.	/r/MensRights	09/07/12 02:06 PM
6	Most people have the impression that Mens Rights equals Anti Womens Rights True feminism is much like the true scotsman; it's defined in an ad hoc way to suit the argument of whoever is doing the defining. I generally find it useless to argue over the meaning of labels, rather than engage with the ideas that individuals try to advance, no matter what label they do it under.	/r/MensRights	04/07/12 10:11 PM
4	Free Willy: Should Prison Inmates have the Right to Masturbate? If porn deterred rape in general, and it's obviously pretty much freely available to everyone now, wouldn't rape be a lot less common? And indeed, that's what we've generally seen. Correlation doesn't prove causation and all that, but I think it holds up reasonably well. Sexual release is going to reduce sexual aggression, and access to porn will increase sexual release. Don't know if you'd see the same thing with prison rape, but then again I don't see how it can hurt.	/r/MensRights	11/01/12 09:11 PM
5	Video: Feminists attacked and vilified a woman who dared talk about female pedophiles Anarcha-feminism	/r/MensRights	15/11/11 03:34 PM
3	Why Women Think That 80% of Men are "Below Average" Upvote for Sex at Dawn. Most of what's commonly believed about pre-historic hunter gatherer society is just us projecting modern cultural norms onto our ancestors. And most of those cultural norms emerged with the invention of agriculture, which means they're not an immutable part of human nature at all. We can, and should, fight to change these agricultural society norms and there's no reason to think we can't be successful.	/r/MensRights	15/07/11 08:03 PM
2	16 year old boy has consensual sex with his 15 year old sister, gets registered as a sex offender for life. Now, a potential 2nd round pick, no NFL team will even look at him. I have no sympathy for sex offenders The problem is that "sex offender" is defined as everything from "violent rapist" to "guy visiting a prostitute" to "guy who pissed in an ally because he couldn't find a public bathroom" It's an awful situation, because it simultaneously ruins the lives of people who are harmless and were caught doing consensual acts, while at the same time lessening the gravity of more serious offenses like actual rape.	/r/MensRights	29/08/10 03:21 PM
1	Single men and women should receive the same tax benefits and penalties as married couples. No one should be punished being asexual or uninterested in marriage. How best can you "hit" this group with a benefit? -by marriage tax benefits. Even granting this premise - wouldn't you best "hit" that group by narrowly defining it as married couples with children?	/r/MensRights	27/08/10 10:01 PM
1	Does marriage reduce a woman to property? (cross-post from fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu, of all places) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage#History You'll find that there was a wide range of beliefs, customs, practices, and laws concerning marriage which vary across time and between cultures. The driving factor in these changes is typically the economic status of women, though legal changes in real estate & inheritance law tend to change the institution as well. Attitudes towards non-monogamy change with the culture - sometimes polygamy is acceptable, sometimes it's not. Sometimes there's instit…	/r/MensRights	11/07/10 04:26 PM
4	Does marriage reduce a woman to property? (cross-post from fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu, of all places) The comic played on some pretty negative stereotypes of women and men both. As for marriage - yes it's changed drastically from what it was even just a century ago. It changed quite a bit just in the last few decades. It certainly underscores how ignorant and/or disingenuous the self proclaimed defenders of "traditional marriage" are when they attack the notion of gay marriage. There's simply no such thing as "traditional marriage" - marriage has always evolved alongside society, to fit the time…	/r/MensRights	10/07/10 06:32 PM
2	In Defense of Men (written by a woman): I've pretty much stopped watching sitcoms that portray men as imbeciles unable to wipe their butts without a woman pointing out the location of their asshole Does anyone know how/when this changed? Early on, it was obviously sexist in the other direction - stuff like Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best featuring a strong patriarch and submissive wife. As late as the 80's that was still mostly the case - The Cosby Show had that wise patriarch archetype. But then I know by the early 90's we had the reverse. I'd like to say The Simpsons led the way but it was probably something earlier than that. And I just remember there were a bunch of shows foll…	/r/MensRights	23/02/10 03:57 AM
7	"Why marrying for money isn't a bad idea." The "sex and the city generation" of hipster women has gone too far, as evidenced by this. Be sure to read the comments, too. This can go both ways though - just ask John McCain and John Kerry, for example.	/r/MensRights	07/07/09 10:57 PM
10	"Why marrying for money isn't a bad idea." The "sex and the city generation" of hipster women has gone too far, as evidenced by this. Be sure to read the comments, too. It's not just tax breaks and monetary issues - it also gives your spouse power of attorney, the right to make medical decisions for you if you're incapacitated, immunity from being compelled to testify against you in a court of law, a path to citizenship (if you happen to come from different countries), custodianship of children, and a myriad of other rights that have nothing to do with money.	/r/MensRights	07/07/09 10:56 PM
2	"Men are on a marriage strike ..because...the reward for being an adult in our society is so low, especially for men." Beyond the financial incentives, there comes a point in a long term relationship where the various legal benefits do become desirable, when your life is so intertwined with a partner that that person should be the first in line in terms of legal rights over both you and your (shared) stuff. Otherwise you wind up with the nightmare that so many long term gay couples face, where they can't necessarily make medical decisions for the partner or even visit them in the hospital, or where family member…	/r/MensRights	02/07/08 11:26 PM
0	The ten most common feminist myths Alright - but even if we take that at face value (and I have no reason not to)... If we're lumping together being groped on a dance floor or (ultimately completely harmless) exhibitionism with acts of violent rape - what's that really say about our attitude towards rape? There's simply no universe in which a guy flashing his dick should be held comparable, let alone equivalent, to a woman being forcibly raped. But that's exactly the attitude the "1 in 4" statistic expresses.	/r/MensRights	27/06/08 05:31 PM
5	The ten most common feminist myths The "One in four college women are raped" number gets spouted all over the place - I remember it was used in my own freshman orientation. Here's one example. NOW has a bunch of bogus statistics on their web site - here they are claiming .77 to every dollar pay inequality. If you google a bit, you can find fairly reputable institutions which make many of the claims listed, or some variants of them. They're out there, although I'm not sure how prevalent they are or how seriously they're taken by a…	/r/MensRights	27/06/08 12:48 AM