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...Did you even read that article? We don’t need a day for dads. What we need is recognition of fathers as equal parents all year long. That's incredibly pro-fathers. That's exactly the kind of article this subreddit should be linking instead of stupid tumblr comments and women-behaving-badly.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 05:44 PM
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wRateMyGirlfriendorEx
/r/MensRights22/12/13 05:33 AM
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So? There's apps like this to anonymously rate women too.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 11:30 PM
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You're talking like women are a scarce resource for the taking. They are in a sense. They make up 50% of the population. They are not scarce AT ALL. lol, funny. The idea of self supporting women is laughable to you even though they are the primary or sole breadwinner in 40% of households and they make up 50% of the workforce? Get the fuck back to /r/theredpill.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 02:45 AM
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Hey, if these guys actually want women who only like them for their money (and given that they're on these sites looking for those exact kinds of women, I think that's a safe assumption), who am I to judge their kink? I don't judge men who employ streetwalkers either.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:43 PM
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You're talking like women are a scarce resource for the taking. Given that most people are monogamous, I'm pretty sure we're not going to run out of women. Furthermore, even though the prevalence of sugar babies rose a little bit, they make up a vast minority. There are still plenty of self sufficient women who don't give a shit if you're not rich.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:19 PM
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The dumb shit shouldn't have signed away his rights before she was born if he wanted to be a part of her life. It has nothing to do with being unwed, it has everything to do with the fact that he chose to give up his paternal rights before this happened.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 07:06 PM
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So? The sugar daddies know full well what they're getting when they pick a woman. Everyone consents, no one is getting taken advantage of.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 07:01 PM
142

Wait, are you saying that all feminists aren't man hating, rape-accusing, child stealing bloodsuckers? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
/r/MensRights25/09/13 12:03 AM
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Nope. Child rearing was women's work. I mean, unless he was super wealthy and could afford a nanny.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 07:14 AM
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We're taking about children who are already born, hence the whole "breadwinner/divorce" thing a few comments up. Kind of hard to abort or adopt a ten year old.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 07:13 AM
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They hear a couple of stories about vindictive mothers, and then hear several more one-sided stories from fathers who feel slighted but are also leaving out critical pieces of the situation in order to paint themselves the innocent victim, and then assume that's what happens to every man who ever has a kid, ever.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:26 AM
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It's not a physical challenge, it's a social challenge. Much of society is still very traditional, especially in conservative states, and SAHD's are viewed very poorly. This image tries to combat that notion.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:23 AM
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Yeah, men should never be the primary caretakers of children! That's women's work! /s
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:20 AM
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No, because they still had primary custody of the children.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:19 AM
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It's not uncommon, actually. And guess what? No one throws a fit about it like a petulant child!
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:10 AM
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Are you saying men are not fit to be the caretakers of children? Because that sure sounds like what you're saying.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 06:07 AM
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I've never posted in either of those subs.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 06:24 AM
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Your tag is cute. You don't have to be a feminist to think this place is annoying as fuck.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 06:01 AM
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Feminists and MRAs may want the same things in society? UNPOSSIBLE!
/r/MensRights11/05/13 04:44 AM
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This is also the top post on /r/TwoXChromosomes! Hooray, agreement!
/r/MensRights11/05/13 12:16 AM
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Racism is usually applied when you're being bigoted against one particular race. Xenophobia is when you hate and fear everything except your own race.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 05:30 PM
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You hang out with bad people. My friends say things like that all the time and nobody gives a fuck.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 05:28 PM
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Absolutely not. Bodily autonomy trumps everything. You can't control what another person does with their own body. Nor should you. You wanted the baby? Too bad. Go make another. Sure, I think fathers should have the ability to give up their rights for children they don't want, but that is a completely different story.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 06:34 AM
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You only have to pay child support if the other parent pursues it. So no, a man in the same situation would not be in prison; particularly because she was presumed dead. The state doesn't seek child support from dead parents.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 06:29 AM
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No problem. Australia is awesome in so many ways.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 08:01 PM
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Keep in mind this took place in Australia, they do actually have laws that provide an exception for reasonably believing they were over 18.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 07:55 PM
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While that's true, I know plenty of 18 year olds who act like they're 13. How one acts isn't a reliable indicator of age. And yes, it is against the law, but I think it should be revised so that if the minor was deliberately and convincingly pretending to be older than they are, the sentence should be reduced or dropped. If you meet someone at a nightclub, you have every reason to believe they're over 21. You can't know that it's actually a 16 year old who snuck in. Same with someone with a fake…
/r/MensRights02/05/13 07:24 PM
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Honestly, if a 13 year old looks like an adult woman and is asking for sex, I can't say I blame the guy. It is not reasonable to ID everyone you come across on the off chance you might fuck them. And what if she has a fake ID? What then? Seriously, my husband looked 30 when he was 17. I'm not going to go running around proclaiming everyone who mistook him for an adult as a massive raping shitlord.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 06:08 PM
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Because that's the law of the country this occurred in. So no, a man would not have been plastered all over the article.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 04:54 PM
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A girl can look like she's 20 but she might just be 16 and that wouldn't fly if the perpetrator were a man. In Australia, yes it would.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 04:52 PM
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Because she's the real victim folks. This is a different country where the identity is witheld. Please do not spout ignorance and call it oppression.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 04:49 PM
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You don't have to part with all of your money, but if you do not love your spouse enough to ensure that he/she doesn't have to wear rags (which would pretty much ensure that they never climb out of poverty), then there may be a problem. You don't have to split everything 50/50, but if your spouse cannot possibly make due on their salary alone despite making wise financial decisions, then I'd say you'd have a moral obligation to help them. You know, that whole "honor and sustain one another in si…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:01 AM
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and this woman CHOSE to marry this guy knowing how he felt about sharing his money. And that right there proves you didn't read the article. She knew nothing of how he wished to handle finances when they married.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 10:16 PM
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I didn't call anyone anything. I said I would be a douchebag if I did such a thing. Are you projecting perhaps?
/r/MensRights30/04/13 10:14 PM
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Also keep in mind, the bills very well not be split evenly at all. Rent for my house is $1200. The rest of our bills: gas, electric, food, two cars, and insurance, comes to about $1000. If I made my husband pay the rent (remember he makes half what I do) while I paid the rest of the bills, not only would that be a very uneven split, I'd have tons of money left over each month while he'd have nothing. Even if I "graciously" gave him an allowance, that wouldn't be enough for him to buy food, gas, …
/r/MensRights30/04/13 06:59 PM
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I call that infantilizing.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 06:24 PM
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But then again, doesn't the bill have to be paid by the person who owns the debt? No. They don't care who gives them money, as long as they get the money. I could go and pay off the rest of your car loan right now and your bank wouldn't even blink. Whoever has the title owns the house.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 06:23 PM
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it's based on a lot of assumption's but if all she worries about is the mortgage let's say that's 1600/mo, at 25k a year (another assumption) that leaves her with 500 per month personal spending money You are forgetting taxes. If she gets 20% of her paycheck removed (which is what I, a married woman who makes about that much have taken out), and pays the $1600 mortgage, that means she has a whopping $66 left over. Wow, she's really rolling in it! /s If the roles were reversed, it would still be …
/r/MensRights30/04/13 06:19 PM
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Woah, woah, wait a minute, why aren't you all protesting that her identity was revealed before a conviction? What about innocent until proven guilty? What if it's a false accusation?!
/r/MensRights30/04/13 06:11 PM
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Where were the droves of feminists screeching about how that photo oppresses them? Oh, there weren't any? Imagine that.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 05:21 PM
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Then it's a matter of her word vs. his, and we all know how that one usually goes in the courts... Dismissed or never brought to court due to lack of evidence? You're right, that is usually what happens.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 02:20 PM
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But advising people to never get drunk is just silly. You can't possibly predict that maybe your house will be set on fire, or that your trusted friend will rape you. Why on earth would telling someone to avoid a very common and socially acceptable activity be reasonable? Your arsonist analogy also fails, because installing fire alarms and not blocking the fire escape is something done specifically to prevent death in case of fire. You don't stay sober specifically to prevent burning to death. L…
/r/MensRights24/04/13 07:06 PM
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"if you weren't drunk, this wouldn't have happened" is a true statement in many cases(of course not all). But that's fucking retarded. So no one should ever get drunk, ever? Most victims are raped by people they know and trust. Why should you feel like it's not safe to get drunk around someone you're supposed to trust? Sure, maybe Jane Doe wouldn't have been raped by her best friend if she hadn't gotten drunk and passed out, but what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Jane's friend sho…
/r/MensRights24/04/13 06:02 PM
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So? That has nothing to do with the motives behind the bill. It's just something the journalist threw in there.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 09:44 PM
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Source? It's a Republican-led bill.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 08:51 PM
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That link doesn't have anything to do with the link posted by OP.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 08:50 PM
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Not in Norway they don't.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 10:36 PM
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Behavior which you clearly know nothing about.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 10:00 PM
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I'm so glad you're fucking omniscient.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 09:42 PM
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Norway prefers to focus on rehabilitation instead of punishment. It's why their crime rate and re-offense rates are so low.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 05:06 PM
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Because someone significantly older than a child can have a lot of power over them. It's pretty easy for someone with several years more experience to manipulate a naive 15 year old.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 06:18 PM
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When you have a subreddit whose sole purpose is to exclude men, male views and male discussions Show me where it says anywhere in that subreddit where men are excluded or their views aren't appreciated. Men post there all the time. They are welcome to do so. No where in the subreddit has it said that men are not allowed in the discussion. You keep throwing up a strawman.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 12:55 AM
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There is no reason for people to seek value or prioritise experiences, views and opinions because they come from women Are you fucking serious? Sorry, an opinion on how to manage period cramps is more valuable coming from a woman, seeing as most men don't have periods. Do you ask women how to recover from a kick in the balls? And you know what? Maybe the hair salon is segregated, but my point still stands that 2X is not. There is no rule or enforcement saying men are not welcome, or even that th…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 09:30 PM
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segregation I don't think that word means what you think it means. There is a huge difference between voluntary grouping and fucking segregation. /r/SRSwomen is segregated. /r/TwoXChromosomes is not. Segregation (noun): The enforced separation of different groups in a country, community, or establishment.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 09:13 PM
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It's a subreddit for discussing your experiences as a woman. Why is that a problem? On that note, do you have a problem with the existence of /r/OneY? There's nothing wrong with gendered places. I don't care if someone starts a women-only hair salon or some shit, as long as they don't flip the fuck out when someone makes a men-only gym or something.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 08:54 PM
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the very premise of a subreddit whose sole purpose is to explicitly exclude people, views and opinions by gender is inherently sexist I take it you don't actually visit 2x. Men are always welcome there.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 06:35 PM
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That's a ridiculous reason to dislike your own gender. Last I checked, the overwhelming majority of women don't hate men.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 06:32 PM
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The jury usually buys these crocks of shit over a man calmly proclaiming he's innocent. Uh, no they don't, because most alleged rape cases never result in a conviction.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 06:28 PM
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You keep saying debtors prison. I don't think that means what you think it means. EDIT: And no, there's nothing in the Constitution outlawing debtor's prisons.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:43 AM
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No, the charge is literally for contempt of court, just like you can go to jail for refusing to pay fines. And no, men are not the only ones arrested for non-payment. Women may be in the gross minority, but they do get imprisoned for not paying child support. Or is my shitty aunt in jail for no reason?
/r/MensRights17/04/13 12:31 AM
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It is considered contempt of court. It's just rarely enforced. This petition is grossly redundant.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 10:17 PM
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That is already criminalized, it's just not enforced. Also, by not keeping it gender neutral you basically stated you don't give a shit about custodial fathers who keep their children away from their mothers. It doesn't matter who it happens to more often, laws must be gender neutral. Also, you will never, ever gain support for not jailing people for nonpayment of child support. That is called contempt of court.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 10:17 PM
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And where are the feminist protesters railing against the posters? How many have been torn down? Where are the legions of women screaming about how these images oppress them? Oh, there aren't any? How odd.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 04:51 PM
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22 upvotes and 1 downvote. Yet the circlejerk about how /r/feminism wants men to die and women to rule the world will continue in /r/mensrights...
/r/MensRights12/04/13 07:38 PM
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No cost-sharing means (I assume) they don't have to pay anything for these things, that tax dollars fund them Wrong. No cost-sharing means no insurance deductible. Taxes have absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare. Why should we coddle people with special treatments simply because they choose to remain pregnant? You're terrible. Do men have access to annual STI counselling without cost-sharing? Yes. Do men have access to this free annual counseling? Yes. Increase in AIDS in women doesn't mean w…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 12:00 AM
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The healthcare act in the U.S gives every female citizen in America free heart screenings No it doesn't. Stop fucking trolling for upvotes. I've found numerous free heart screenings, for women only... http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/documents/heart/files/OHO%20Women's%20Screening%202(1).pdf[1] http://www.memorialcare.org/medical_services/heart-womens/heart-screening-saddleback.cfm[2] Those aren't being offered on a federal level, they're offered by private hospitals because they felt like it. There…
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:42 PM
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Radical feminists hate transfolk because they conflict with the idea that gender is entirely a social construct.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:32 PM
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It's fucking incredible how many people don't know how insurance works. Why would taxes pay for something that you get with insurance? Absolutely mind-boggling.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:31 PM
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You. I like you. You don't get caught up in the circlejerk.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:29 PM
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Seriously OP. STOP FASTING.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:27 PM
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They are already getting equal pay. Their pay is equal to the amount of work they do and risks they take. Don't really see why that's a problem.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 08:02 PM
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Oh sure, same sentence a man who murdered his kids would have received. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/12/12/montreal-guy-turcotte-mental-review.html Canada doesn't take murder very seriously, it seems. This case is not out of the ordinary regardless of sex.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 12:05 AM
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This case really isn't all that unusual for Canada, regardless of sex. They're really, really easy on murderers.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 12:02 AM
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Misguided? Hell no, he was being a sexist dumbass demeaning both genders. He gave a ridiculous comment, I gave a ridiculous reply. But I see that is lost on you, so not sure why I even bothered.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 11:22 PM
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Really, I thought we were all animals because we are of the kingdom animalia. I wasn't aware we've changed the definition of animal now.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 09:34 PM
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Every single person at the party who was interviewed admitted she was passed out. All the text messages they recovered said the same thing. Anonymous leaked a fucking video of a bunch of the kids at the party talking and joking about the rape. So unless you think that all the attendees at the party, including the girl, got together and thought it would be hilarious to film a video of fake rape, take pictures of a fake rape, and then exchange texts outlining the fake rape, it's pretty clear cut. …
/r/MensRights25/03/13 09:34 PM
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and possibly whether the defendants had to be aware that she was impaired (which given their own drunk state is an issue). Woah woah woah, what the fuck? You're still responsible for your actions even if you're drunk. I don't give a shit how drunk you are, anyone should know that you don't stick your fingers in the vagina of a passed-out girl. It's not fucking difficult.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 08:54 PM
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exploitation in the sex industry Gotcha, you're a sex-negative. many women undergo procedures to get a "porn star vagina," which is a recurring theme in history of men demonizing And men don't try to undergo penis-enlarging procedures, many of which are untested and/or dangerous? Also, demonizing, wut? sexualizing the female body. HOW DARE YOU BE SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE YOU'RE SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO. "No, I haven't and there's zero evidence to show anything ever happened between us." You can…
/r/MensRights25/03/13 08:49 PM
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Seriously, this article seemed like the author was crying, "waaaah, why aren't all the women around me sex and sandwich machines? It's so unfair, I now have to use my intellect and my personality to attract women rather than the mere promise of financial support!"
/r/MensRights19/03/13 06:48 AM
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As female employment rates go up, fewer and fewer men are willing to date jobless women. An unemployed female slob living in her parent's basement is becoming just as unattractive as her male counterparts.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 06:20 AM
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Two things: First, they shouldn't be looking at unwed mothers, they should be looking at single mothers. There are more and more couples turning to cohabitation, because in the end marriage is really only a slip of paper that isn't at all necessary to validate a relationship. Just because they aren't married doesn't mean there aren't two attentive parents in the mix. Second, why exactly is this article talking about dual-income households and working women like they're bad things? What, do you g…
/r/MensRights19/03/13 06:19 AM
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It's a joke because it's sexualizing a perfectly innocent photo of a mother and son.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 08:39 AM
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Stay at home mothers are the exception, not the norm. Most families are in two-income households.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:44 PM
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Because the person above was saying that all men whose wives leave them are "unjustly thrown out of their homes," as if none of those men could possibly be cheaters, alcoholics, drug addicts, etc (my father was all of the above). They couldn't possibly have done something to deserve being divorced. Are a lot of divorces the fault of the woman? Of course. Are all of them? Hell no. Domestic violence and adultery are cut pretty evenly across gender lines, and the majority of families are two-income…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:42 PM
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No, no. End alimony (or at the very least limit it to one or two years), legalize paternal surrender,reform child support. It's extremely important, especially if the father served a parental role in the child's life. It just shouldn't be 50% of income or some ridiculous number like that.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:34 PM
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Assuming this isn't fake, get a lawyer. No, you won't go to prison, there's no proof that you raped her beyond her word. Contrary to popular opinion here, a mere accusation isn't enough to send you to prison for twenty years. You hear of a few outlier cases, but they're the exception not the norm. Not much you can do for your reputation, but it's just college. If it gets too bad see if you can transfer to another school.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 11:57 PM
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This subreddit is going to turn into /r/atheism if this shit keeps getting upvoted. This is exactly like an atheist hopping onto a Christian's page and going "lol so how about them fossils, guess the earth isn't 6000 years old after all. I hope you know that religion is the cause of all the world's problems and it's imaginary friends for growth ups. The ideology that you hold so close to your heart and have managed to pull a good message from despite the ugly undertones is a lie and it's teachin…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 06:05 PM
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So this subreddit is /r/atheism now?
/r/MensRights08/03/13 05:51 PM
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This is the fakest thing I've ever read.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:42 PM
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I lost my virginity at 17 to a 19 year old man. I assure you, I was not raped no matter what the stupid law says.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 06:08 PM
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But that doesn't mean there was no consent. Proof of sex does not mean proof of non-consent. It's not hard for a rapist to claim it was consensual rough sex. Consent or lack thereof is extraordinarily difficult to prove.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 05:59 PM
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The nature of rape means it rarely leaves evidence. That is the entire reason why so few people accused of rape ever see any jail time, and why it's so important to not use a mere claim of rape as the only evidence needed to convict. EDIT: Downvoted for a well-established and obvious fact. Funny.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 06:04 AM
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It said sexual violence, not rape. 1 in 4 for any kind of sexual mistreatment isn't that outlandish.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 06:36 PM
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b) People die in war period. Why should it bother us any more when it is women vs. men? One young man died for every second of WWI. Women should be capable of that kind of sacrifice. And really, as long as they are a body that can hold a gun they can stand in place and die just as well as any other. That's not what I meant when I said people will die. A woman who is let onto the front lines who does not meet the physical requirements is going to get other people killed. It's not affirmative acti…
/r/MensRights10/02/13 08:04 AM
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One man said, “If I tried to do something like this for men to review women, I’d have a billion fire-breathing feminists down my neck quicker than I can say Germaine Greer.” lol k http://www.rategfs.com/ (NSFW) http://ratemyexgf.com/ http://new.rateyourrack.com/home.php (NSFW) http://www.submityourex.com/ (NSFW) http://postyourexhere.tumblr.com/ (very NSFW) http://www.preapps.com/app/detail/rate-my-girlfriend/79 Can we focus on REAL issues please? Men are losing their children, baby boys are get…
/r/MensRights10/02/13 12:09 AM
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it is probably closer to 25% of male applicants and 0.3% of female applicants. True, I was just using arbitrary percentages to demonstrate my point. not suffering from monthly menstrual crises or cramps Birth control overcomes this pretty easily. Just require women in active combat roles to take BC and skip their placebo weeks. I've gone 4 months without a menstrual cycle this way, and I'm sure I could have gone much longer. Add to that that males get totally distracted by females who are injure…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 11:58 PM
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I talked to several different people about it including a diversity officer(female), a dean(male), a conflict resolutions consultant(female), a minority student affairs person(female) and all were either supportive or helpful.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 11:50 PM
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An excellent post! It's so tiring to see so many men here with defeatist attitudes who just assume any attempt at something like this will immediately get shot down and trampled without actually trying.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 11:49 PM
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This is really important: But the proposal also seeks to exclude pre-relationship, gifts and inheritances from property that would be divided 50-50 in any separation. The division of property would only apply to assets gained during the course of the relationship. And unlike marriage laws, inheritances and gifts would not be subject to division. So calm down, Canadians. You'll still get to keep your car and the life insurance payout from your parents if you happen to break up with a live-in girl…
/r/MensRights09/02/13 11:31 PM
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A lot of talking heads are on tv repeating the same talking point, "Of course women should be in front line combat provided they meet the requirements". However, I have the sneaking suspicion this decision will also mean men and women in front line positions no longer have gendered PT requirements. I get why that would be necessary, no one would want to serve with and rely upon someone who isn't fit to serve. But this will effectively eliminate all women from front line combat while at the same …
/r/MensRights09/02/13 10:57 PM
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Most of our dads and granddads were probably volunteers.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 10:51 PM
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I find that surprising, since most religions tend to put a lot of emphasis on traditional gender roles.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 10:45 PM
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It makes sense that theatrical roles are excluded. We don't need a woman crying sexism because she's not allowed to play Hamlet or a man flipping his shit because he's not allowed to play Elizabeth Bennet.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 10:43 PM
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At least they took him to a hospital instead of prison.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 03:13 AM
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In God of War you destroy the fuck out of female creatures and goddesses. In Mortal Kombat you are supposed to dismember your opponent in the most gruesome ways imaginable regardless of sex. Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill and Tomb Raider have a couple of female villains. Prince of Persia has several too.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:31 PM
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In the God of War trilogy, female creatures and goddesses make up the vast majority of enemies.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:27 PM
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Yes. 99% of the time, bitching about sexism in video games is fucking stupid because it either reads way too much into how characters are dressed/built, or it ignores historical accuracy.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:25 PM
8

You'll never look like Ivy, but you'll sure as fuck never look like Kratos either.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:24 PM
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Hey now, let's not forget Grand Theft Auto. You can shoot the fuck out of whomever you like and you get rewarded.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:23 PM
1

I think that's more because it's trying to stay historically accurate.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:20 PM
2

That is irrelevant. No one (who is sane) is trying to argue that all women are physically equal to all men. However if the physical requirements for infantry are the same for both sexes, I nor anyone else should have a problem if an exceptional woman is able to meet them and wishes to fight.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 06:37 PM
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You're quite right, this is not a circlejerk nor a voting brigade. Fortunately, that's not what this post is about. This is quite relevant because it highlights the kind of attitude MRAs can and will face from other men while seeking equality. Just as there are women who fight against their own reproductive rights, there are men who fight against their own human rights.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 07:33 AM
1

Then the girls in your family are probably not the type to be accepted. Even drafted civilians have to pass certain physical requirements.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 07:24 AM
1

Because the country is unfortunately ruled by people who cling to traditional gender roles, to the great harm of men and women alike.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 07:21 AM
1

It is disappointing to read some who look upon the likely prospect that women will be drafted as "women's just desserts" for backing a progressive agenda. One writer to Time wrote: "I hope that this means that now all women on their 18th birthday will now be required to register with Selective Service. I wonder if all the women who vote for Obama because he told them that the Republicans had a so called 'war on women' like it better that they can now actually go to a real war with a real enemy. …
/r/MensRights29/01/13 07:20 AM
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Woolf is, of course, mistaken. As many women soldiers, not to mention women politicians, have shown, women can be every bit as attracted to war as men. The glory, necessity, and satisfaction of fighting is not by any means restricted to one gender.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 07:05 AM
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So she's basically saying war sucks and nations should resolve their conflicts like adults instead of petulant children. I disagree with her assertion that war is caused by men because they're men, but the bulk of this article is sound.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 07:04 AM
1

We encounter various little inconveniences every day. Deal with it.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 10:29 PM
2

Why, exactly? It has nothing to do with you nor does it affect you in any way. For all you know he/she could be going to a job interview or on a date.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 06:28 PM
1

Megyn Kelly, case in point.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 09:25 AM
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Why is caring about how you look vain? It's only vain if you consider that to be the most important thing about who you are.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 09:20 AM
2

That second one is quite true, though it has little to do with patriarchy. It's more because it's socially acceptable for women to step outside traditional gender roles (which is good), but not widely accepted for men to do the same (which is bad).
/r/MensRights28/01/13 09:17 AM
2

In case you haven't noticed, reddit is both liberal and strongly dislikes Islam.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 02:39 AM
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Because being forced against your will to confine to those gender roles is oppression. Equality is about having the freedom to go about your life as you choose, it's not worrying about getting beaten to a pulp if a man chooses to be a dancer or harassed if a woman chooses to be a physicist. There's nothing wrong with doing traditionally male of female things if that's what you truly want to do.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 02:37 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/BtjVX.jpg
/r/MensRights25/01/13 02:32 AM
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It shows how our institution are priming our kids to censor anything they don't want or like to hear. The wall wasn't torn down by the university, it was torn down by a single idiot. Idiots are everywhere. The fact that the university allowed the wall to be put up is a good thing. It belongs here because fighting for men's rights goes against the status quo and indoctrination of our youth. But what does that have to do with the article? It belongs here because if you are trying to speak about me…
/r/MensRights23/01/13 09:18 PM
1

What does this have to do with men's rights? This would be better suited in /r/ainbow.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 09:12 PM
1

Also true.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 07:33 PM
1

Since when is any major subreddit not a giant circlejerk?
/r/MensRights23/01/13 07:33 PM
1

That's actually a really good idea. None of this "maintain your current lifestyle" bullshit.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 04:58 PM
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There're extremists in every group I'd rather this didn't turn into a place like /r/atheism You're a bit late on that one.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 06:06 AM
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Splitting current assets makes sense, or at least splitting assets gained during the course of the marriage. Forfeiting a large chunk of all future assets for the rest of your life to someone you no longer have anything to do with does not make sense.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 05:56 AM
1

Thank you. The double standards in this subreddit can be astounding.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 10:02 PM
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If more men don't want to be teachers, why try to convince them otherwise? Likewise, if more women don't want to become physicists, why waste millions of dollars trying to convince them that no, they really do want to be physicists deep down, it's just the patriarchy telling you to be a hairdresser? Let people do what they want to do.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 10:00 PM
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As another woman in STEM, this is exactly how I feel. Actually, most women in STEM fields that I know feel that all the raging over wage gaps and under-representation in certain fields is bullshit. We got to where we are because we wanted it and worked hard; we didn't need to be persuaded by ad campaigns or use Affirmative Action as a crutch.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 09:56 PM
2

To be perfectly honest, no one likes being followed closely at night. It's scary, and not just the fear of rape. Men don't like it either for the distinct possibility of getting mugged or beaten.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 07:22 PM
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Both control pills are sterilization? What planet do you live on? Male pills/injections are currently in clinical trials and will likely be on the market within a few years. Contrary to the popular belief in this subreddit, women who don't want children would like to avoid pregnancy and abortion completely, which is why most of them use some form of birth control. Pregnancy is horrible, even if you're only pregnant for a month before getting an abortion. And on that note, abortions are painful, …
/r/MensRights19/01/13 06:29 PM
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I can't believe you just compared a sperm donor to a rape victim. The donor willingly participated, whereas the rape victim did not. When you are a willing participant, you need to be prepared for the consequences of your actions if you don't take necessary precautions (in this case, going through a bank). Not sure this is true. I'm pretty sure that if a sperm bank has your information on file (and some may retain it) that a mother can sue them to release that information, since it is the child'…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 09:36 PM
1

Depends on where you go. /r/sex is quite fond of them.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 05:51 AM
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And then when you tell them you're a woman they're like, "Oh what a special fucking snowflake you are."
/r/MensRights15/01/13 06:56 AM
1

Depends on how you look at it. Graduating high school isn't all that impressive, so that alone isn't likely to send you rocketing into unimaginable wealth. However, someone who doesn't graduate from high school isn't on any employer's radar. I mean hell, all you need to do to graduate is show up, and if you couldn't do that, why would a potential employer think you'd be a reliable employee? Clearly time commitments and responsibilities aren't his forte.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:24 AM
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What the fuck did I just read?
/r/MensRights13/01/13 05:56 AM
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I would love nothing more than to be able to drop out right now and start looking for a job What kind of job do you expect to get without a high school degree that would enable you to support yourself? Or were you planning on continuing to live with your parents after you drop out and just work part time to earn money for pot and videogames? But seriously, how the fuck do you flunk high school? All you have to do is show up. Although that right there is most likely your problem, which doesn't bo…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 05:53 AM
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You on the other hand are saying this is unacceptable- so what makes you in charge of what can be said on the topic?? I'm saying it's ridiculous to try to define masculinity and portray people who don't live up to your expectations as "not real men." I'm not telling you what you can and cannot say. You are free to say what you like on the matter, and I am free to point out why what you said is fucking stupid.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 08:52 PM
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So what are you saying? I'm not allowed to put forth an ethic for men? Since when do you get to define masculinity? And so what is the ethic you're putting forth: that you only pick fights based on convenience instead of on integrity and courage? Or, you know, OP is just a kid and has his whole life ahead of him? No point in OP potentially fucking up his chances at college admission/scholarships just to prove a point. A well educated and respected MRA is a lot more useful to the movement than a …
/r/MensRights12/01/13 08:24 PM
1

I'm pretty sure that was the author's point.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:27 PM
3

I was always under the impression that many feminists take a giant shit all over stay-at-home-moms because they're "allowing themselves to be oppressed by traditional gender roles."
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:26 PM
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She isn't offended by SAHD's. This was a tongue-in-cheek compliment topped with admiration. God, and they say feminists have no sense of humor...
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:25 PM
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I said your comments were leading, and that your basic summation about the normality of people knowing multiple victims was incorrect I never said that it's normal to know multiple victims. That was /u/benevolentwalrus. I was just adding my experience because you were like, "What the actual fuck, it's not normal to know women who have been sexually victimized!" I simply added that your experience of what is "normal" may be a little limited. Granted, mine is too, but neither of us can go making c…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:13 PM
1

Admissions made in family/divorce court can't be used as evidence in criminal court unless criminal charges are brought against that person, and in the case of rape that would require the victim to come forward. She tried, and the police did nothing about it.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 05:16 AM
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Not true at all. Every false classification is false if and only if the complainant says it was false. Again, the accuser recanting does not necessarily mean it was a lie. I outlined multiple scenarios above where an alleged victim might recant. wikipedia says there are 29/100k rapes in the US, and only 1.4/100k in Canada per year (surprising difference because Canada is ruled by feminazis). It's probably due to the fact that Canada is significantly more progressive than the United States, and f…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 05:12 AM
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What can I do for an anonymous woman on the internet? Sure, I'd do something if I knew her, but that isn't possible.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 04:00 AM
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The people who started Slutwalk probably would not help women who don't want to be feminist pawns. Given that she's posting in /r/mensrights, I doubt she's parading around in feminist mobs railing against the patriarchy. I know that if I were raped by my husband, I would prefer to quietly divorce him and not draw (public) attention to myself; I certainly wouldn't contact NOW or FMF just so I could be used as the poster-girl for how horrible teh menz are because we ladies are so defenseless so le…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 03:51 AM
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You're the one being irrational if you can't tell the difference between a blanket of anonymity and the having your face/story plastered all over the evening news.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 03:41 AM
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Are you implying that the entire country reads /r/mensrights, and they are somehow able to assign her real life identity to a reddit username?
/r/MensRights09/01/13 03:32 AM
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Just because you know some people who fit into your viewpoint, that means you can claim statistics in your favour? No, but you can't claim statistics in your favor either. It's neutral. We both have sample sizes that are much too small; we only have the statistics published by people who did have sufficiently large sample sizes. By your same logic, you may know a lot of people who have been raped, but someone else may not know anyone. That's... exactly what I said. You said you don't know anyone…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 02:56 AM
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In order to get the support of the ACLU or a feminist lobby, you have to actually inform them about it. She's clearly traumatized and embarrassed by it, so why would she want to let the whole damn country know what happened to her? Maybe she just wants to forget about it and move on.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 02:48 AM
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The fact is, people turn down lie detector tests because they're afraid of false positives. Would I be willing to take a polygraph and be asked if I've cheated on my husband or stolen from my parents? Fuck no! I've done neither of those things, but like hell if I'm going to risk a false positive that could plant doubt and suspicion into the minds of my loved ones. The Kanin report does shed an interesting light and supports the common idea that more than 2% of rape reports are false, however he …
/r/MensRights09/01/13 02:37 AM
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There is a reason why it's illegal to have your employees, for example, undergo a lie detector test. It's seen as an intimidation tactic, and even if the person has nothing to hide, the validity of polygraph tests is highly debated. Contrary to popular belief, there is no universal response when telling a lie. In fact, polygraph tests have very little support from the scientific community. Because of this, in 1998 polygraph results were ruled by the Supreme Court to be inadmissible evidence in a…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 08:35 PM
1

Is it that hard to believe that some cops don't know the law as well as they should have? Or, even worse, the cops in question disagree with the marital rape laws and/or didn't want to deal with it?
/r/MensRights08/01/13 08:19 PM
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Some people are heavy sleepers. My husband and I have both agreed that having sex when drunk/asleep/high/whatever is perfectly acceptable, and there have been many times where I've been on top of him for at least five minutes before he woke up. Sometimes he doesn't even wake up fully and doesn't remember the sex at all the next morning. Again, we've already agreed that this is okay and in fact really fun. Without such an agreement, however, sex with a sleeping spouse (or anyone, really) is rape.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 08:18 PM
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Fuck those cops. If you didn't consent at the time, or if you hadn't told your husband that it's okay to have sex with you when you're asleep (which is what I've done), that is rape. Fuck anyone who thinks that a man or woman becomes their spouses fuck-toy the moment they get married.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 08:11 PM
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Your sample size is too small, and that's not how statistics work. You might not know anyone who has been raped, but someone else may know a lot of people who have been raped. For example, I know at least three people who have been raped: My mother, my sister in law, and my little brother.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:58 PM
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That's not bad, considering that Kanin's sample showed that 41% of rape accusers had recanted. Nope. Kanin, Lisak writes, took his data from a police department whose investigation procedures are condemned by the U.S. Justice Department and the International Association of Chiefs of Police. These procedures include the almost universal threat, in this department, of polygraph testing of complainants, which is viewed as a tactic of intimidation that leads victims to avoid the justice process and …
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:53 PM
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They have also recently compelled the FBI to change the way it defines rape (a bad joke in and of itself) for the sake of keeping statistics. You mean the change in the definition of rape that allowed men to legally be victims of rape? That's a joke to you?
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:47 PM
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The police station in question was repeatedly condemned by the US Justice Department for corruption and improper investigation procedures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape#Kanin.27s_report
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:46 PM
1

You're correct. Women attempt suicide more often, but men succeed in their attempts at a much higher rate.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 06:17 AM
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That's interesting. Sometimes suicide attempts are a cry for help, so it might be women seeking support versus men being determined to end their existence. Either that or men are just better at killing themselves.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 06:16 AM
2

I think someone once called the police because they got the wrong size drink from a Wendy's or something.
/r/MensRights07/01/13 11:08 PM
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That's because he didn't go through a sperm bank. He just gave them some of his sperm.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 11:16 PM
2

https://www.google.com/search?q=turkey%20baster&sugexp=chrome,mod%3D11&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=qOfpUPWNIOKdiAKTk4G4DQ&biw=1366&bih=643&sei=q-fpUIrAFoK_igKRhoDQDQ
/r/MensRights06/01/13 09:08 PM
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Which is precisely why I support state funded birth control of all types, including vasectomies and male birth control pills (once they're released). If we gave everyone the power to control their genetic material until they are ready to be parents, with no out of pocket costs, child support for unwanted children and abortions would be extraordinarily rare.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 08:09 PM
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And that would be your decision. Your wallet, your choice, her body, her choice.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 08:05 PM
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Only if they don't follow the necessary legal procedures. Go through a sperm bank, you're guaranteed to be safe. Give a random woman from craigslist a turkey baster, you're asking for trouble.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 08:04 PM
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/r/mensrights: "I am angry about men being forced to pay for unwanted children, but I don't want women to have easier access to birth control thereby significantly reducing the number of unwanted children!" I'm glad that the most upvoted comments in the thread are calling out this bullshit. This has nothing to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 11:57 PM
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Few think it is. Saying free birth control is easier than saying tax-subsidized-birth-control-with-no-out-of-pocket-cost.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 11:45 PM
2

The difference is that feminists are successful. Depends on the era. Christianity was quite good at everything it did for a couple thousand years. It's only within the last century that Christianity has lost a lot of its bite, only to be replaced by its opposite. We seem to be bouncing from extreme to extreme.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 10:31 PM
2

Aww, look at him go. :)
/r/MensRights31/12/12 04:58 PM
2

You are positively adorable.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 09:51 AM
5

Such breathtaking wit. "I can't come up with an adequate rebuttal, so I'll just fling insults like an ape with so much shit." That must work really well on the playground during recess, eh?
/r/MensRights31/12/12 09:27 AM
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One could argue that if they had bothered to get off their asses and put a stop to the madness of feminist leaders, they could have changed the face of the movement and we wouldn't be having this conversation. It is the same as the citizens of a country ignoring the atrocities committed by their leaders or religious members refusing to put a stop to the actions of fringe extremists. Then again, one could say the same about just about any social group. Democrats, republicans, feminists, MRA's, ga…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 07:59 AM
3

So I feel contempt for women because I'm attracted to men? Because clearly you think that if you don't want to fuck someone, you must deeply dislike them.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 07:51 AM
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If there was no word for "short", and saying "woman" automatically meant a short woman, then yes tall people would be justified in wanting the word "short" to exist. That's the situation we're in. But short isn't the default, nor is tall. Median height is the default. Very short and very tall fall outside the norm. But we don't feel the need to call the majority of women "median" just to spare the very short or tall from feeling slightly different. When someone says "woman," virtually everyone i…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 03:43 AM
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It implies trans women aren't real women No, it implies that trans women aren't biologically like most women, which you act like is a bad thing. Unless you have a term on you that brings you to our level What level? Why would you be on a different level? Do I have to preface everything with how tall someone is, too? Like, I can't just say "woman," I have to say "median woman" so as not to offend the very tall or the very short? Most women are of relatively average height. The very tall and the v…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 03:27 AM
3

So nearly every woman you've ever met has no ethics, morals, or reason? Because almost all women in Western civilization identify as feminist, even though they probably don't actually know what that means.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 03:20 AM
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A lesbian isn't a lesbian because she hates men and wants them to die. She's a lesbian for the same reason you are straight. Because you both are just naturally attracted to women.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 03:18 AM
2

Let's change it then: be nu-trans fourth trimester transsensual Angst Profile ZETA-8 female pseudo-dyke reformed lesbiophilic heromollusc Do I give a single flying fuck just because genderqueer is replaced by female? No. I don't take everything even remotely involving someone who just so happens to be a woman as a narrative upon who I personally am. And did it occur to you that maybe, just maybe, this imaginary person from /b/ greentext is ridiculous not because they're genderqueer, but because …
/r/MensRights31/12/12 03:16 AM
1

If I made a parody with a man in it, and he typical "manly" things, like watch the football and drink beer, and he also did ludicrously manly things, like wrestle bears and shave with a shard of glass, and then framed the whole thing in terms of "LOL men!" you guys would be really offended. That actually sounds pretty hilarious. I, unlike you, have a sense of humor.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:59 AM
1

And I suppose if your car is stolen it's you at fault, not the thief? I forgot to lock my car door last year and my stereo got stolen. My fault. Just because I carry some of the blame doesn't mean the thief carries any less blame. I'm responsible for my actions, and the thief is responsible for theirs.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:53 AM
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What would you prefer? Normal? Average? Good? Decent? Functioning? Biological? How about nothing, you just have "man" and "woman", with us being the other. Nothing sounds good. Face it, straight cis people are the overwhelming majority of the human population. That doesn't mean that just because you're not a part of the majority, you're some kind of freak. Abnormal or different isn't a bad thing. Let's look at the definition: ab·nor·mal not normal, average, typical, or usual; deviating from a st…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:50 AM
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Clearly you didn't notice the other terms like nu-trans, transsensual, lesbiophilic, hereomollusc. Also take into account the other bullshit "identities" like transethnic, transabled, demisexual, otherkin, headmate, and so forth. It's not necessarily making fun of transpeople, it's making fun of the fucking ridiculous number of bullshit labels some are so anxious to pump out. Everyone has to be labelled and put into a little box, and it's fucking ridiculous.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:38 AM
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Gender and sex are different. Sex is chromosomal. Gender is in your head. If you woke up tomorrow with a vagina, but your mind remained the same, you would still feel like a man.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:31 AM
5

Are you implying that a lesbian MRA cannot possibly exist?
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:29 AM
0

because I worked with Feminists when I was still a stupid liberal Because liberal == feminist. /s
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:28 AM
3

Feminists have an entirely different set of ethics, rules and perception of reality that has nothing to do with the real world. More like the very loud ones and the ones in power are like this. The rest are generally reasonable, however they do tend to turn a blind eye to the darker side of their movement. Of course, none of us are any different when it comes to our own political/religious/national affiliations, but it's really no excuse.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:27 AM
2

The same can be said about virtually every religion, culture, and political group.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:25 AM
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Most feminists are feminist by name only. They haven't actually bothered to get involved with the organization or learn about what feminism has done/is doing (both the good and the bad); they were simply told that feminism = equality and nothing more.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:23 AM
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Gender roles in general seem to have caused many problems faced by men, women, and LGBT people.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:21 AM
3

Many feminist organizations aren't really that tolerant though. They see trans-men as traitors to the female gender and trans-women as "not real women." When it comes to racism, homophobia, and classism, they prefer to just blame it all on Patriarchy rather than acknowledging that it's a complex combination of many different factors that cause the world's problems, which does nothing but further harm people of other races or orientation.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:18 AM
2

You shut the fuck up right now. There are times when I'm tired and not particularly interested in sex, but I allow my husband to bust out a quick one because I love him and it's no inconvenience to me. I don't particularly want sex at the moment, but I don't really care if I passively participate.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 10:28 PM
1

Your posting style makes you seem like a very sophisticated robot.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 06:28 PM
2

When I lost my virginity, I said no at first. My boyfriend at the time kissed me passionately and told me how much I'd enjoy it. After a little more of that "pressure" he'd gotten me very aroused and I changed my mind. Fuck you for so casually labeling me a rape victim. Equating my pleasant experience to that of my friend who was raped by a stranger at knifepoint is fucking despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 06:27 PM
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There's a difference between "persuading/pressuring," versus molesting you when you repeatedly say no and then having sex with a crying woman.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 06:20 PM
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So you've changed your mind from "pressure for sex is rape" to "pressure for sex when the other person can't leave is rape." Better call the police Sandra, they persuaded you to change your mind! They raped you!
/r/MensRights30/12/12 06:14 PM
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As a woman, I don't fucking say that. Whether my husband is trying to convince me to have sex when I'm tired or is trying to get me to change my mind on what movie we should go see: if he's successful my reaction is "Oh... alright. Okay, let's do it." That doesn't mean I'm crying on the inside while my body/movie preference is violated, it means he changed my mind and now I want to do what he wants to do. Seriously, fuck you for saying that women are such delicate creatures that we can't make ou…
/r/MensRights30/12/12 06:10 PM
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You're thinking of Dr Kanin's 1994 study, which was completely unscientific and filled with bias, using a police station that had been decried for being corrupt. I think the FBI's statistic of 2-8% is realistic and reasonable. That's still anywhere from 1 in 50 to 1 in 10, which is a big number. No need to go quoting non-credible reports to support your opinion.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 05:58 PM
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Woah woah woah. Back the fuck up. I take offense to you labeling me a rape victim just because my boyfriend at the time had to do a little convincing to get me to have sex with him. I was quite capable of telling him no or walking away, but I made the decision to let go of my inhibitions and go for it. I don't need you or anyone else trying to disempower me or invalidate my decisions just so you can claim something is rape. Don't you go fucking throwing the victim label on everyone.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 05:38 PM
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I have never said anything that would imply that I disagree.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 05:19 PM
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I'm not a feminist, I'm just using an arbitrary number to show my viewpoint. And no, there are not mountains of research regarding false accusations, only unfounded ones. It's virtually impossible to know how many false accusations are made. I simply posit that they're about as common as actual rapists: you would NEVER hear a feminist say that. They prefer to pretend it never happens. Why are you saying that I lied? I clearly said that it was a made up number to explain my viewpoint, not actual …
/r/MensRights30/12/12 05:13 PM
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I have never met a man who has even thought the idea of rape was anywhere near acceptable I didn't say "think rape is acceptable", I said committed rape. Pretty much all rapists know it's not acceptable, they just don't care. Second, your sample size is much too small; its-okay-to-lie-about-rape may just be a common thing in your area, while it might be unheard of elsewhere. Third, my percentage was made up, but I do still think it's about 1:1 for rapists vs false accusers as a percentage of the…
/r/MensRights30/12/12 01:07 AM
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If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say that the same percentage of women either have made or don't object to false accusations as men that have committed rape. (I'm omitting for the sake of simplicity women who commit rape or men who might falsely accuse). So if, say, .005% of the male population (just making up a number here, that's about 1 in 20,000) is made up of rapists, roughly .005% of the female population either already has or would be willing to make a false accusation. Large enough to …
/r/MensRights30/12/12 12:47 AM
1

I said extreme MRAs, don't misquote me. Here and here are a few examples. I didn't say that's a common or supported opinion here, I just said that there's a few who feel that way.
/r/MensRights27/12/12 04:24 AM
1

Most feminists haven't even heard of legal paternal surrender, so how could they form an opinion on it? When I still described myself as feminist, I had never heard of (much less thought of) that idea until I discovered reddit. My first thought wasn't revulsion, it was, "Huh, that's interesting. Seems only fair, really." I didn't magically stop being feminist just because I thought LPS was a good idea; that didn't happen until much later. But you seem to be conflating average feminist with femin…
/r/MensRights27/12/12 01:46 AM
1

I do agree that the very nature of the word seems exclusionary. However, a group that focuses on one gender's problems isn't inherently bad - after all, the MRM doesn't crusade trying to increase female literacy in the Middle East, because they're a men's group. Likewise, feminism doesn't have to address men's issues, since they're a women's group. The issue arises (as we see in many institutionalized feminist organizations) when one tries to silence the other. The MRM, as a men's group, doesn't…
/r/MensRights27/12/12 01:37 AM
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Please link to a post which provides an example of this - I've seen the accusation a lot, but never encountered an example of it here. A single post? I can give you dozens, hundreds if you give me enough time. It's been pretty nice the last two months or so, I think the mods have actually started banning assholes, either that or assholes have stopped being given the attention they crave. I've been quite pleased with the turn /r/mensrights has taken recently. But, I'll give you a well-cited list …
/r/MensRights26/12/12 11:57 PM
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Pointing out those wrongs isn't extremism I never said that. I'm talking about traditionalists who try to hijack the MRM to further their ridiculous agenda by restoring gender roles and bringing men and women back to the 1850s. They're in the ovewhelming minority, but they're unbelievably loud and give a terrible first impression. "Extreme" MRAs advocate for equal accountability. Again, you're looking at the wrong MRAs. You might say, "Oh, well the genuine misogynists aren't real MRAs," but it d…
/r/MensRights26/12/12 07:53 PM
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Oh don't get me wrong, I never said feminism should get a free pass. And you're absolutely right that most feminists don't actually do anything to improve or further their movement. That's actually a problem I have with MRM, in fact: the reasonable majority doesn't do anything while the fringe extremists try to dictate the show.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 04:37 PM
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I absolutely agree with your last paragraph, that's why I don't call myself feminist or MRA either. And I also agree that if your social group is doing ill, either leave the group or change it. But the important thing to remember is that most of your average feminists are level headed and reasonable people who do want equality, they just haven't been exposed to some of the more hateful things their leaders have done. I'm confident that feminism will change, because that's the only way they could…
/r/MensRights26/12/12 04:33 PM
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Ah, apologies. I thought you were talking about the beginning of feminism, not modern feminism.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 04:28 PM
2

The font in that top one is just terrible.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 06:40 AM
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That's like saying Christianity isn't really Christianity if it doesn't involve stoning gays and forbidding women from speaking. Any movement is fluid. ANY. Don't act like feminism is so special it's more immovable than a major religion or a political party.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 06:28 AM
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Feminism is a political group just like any other, and as such is subject to a wide spectrum of interpretation and belief. Should a fiscal conservative stop calling himself a republican just because tea partiers are acting like assholes? Should observant Catholics reject their religion just because some priests are molesting children? Should someone stop calling themselves Christian just because the WBC is full of hateful fucks? It's just a goddamn label.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 06:25 AM
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The everyday feminists greatly outnumber the leaders, and have just as much influence over them as members of any other political group. Your Andrea Dworkinses of the world won't get very far if their entire social group is calling out their bullshit. Don't act like feminism is the one group that can never ever change. Religions and political parties change in response to member pressure all the time, but even if their ideologies completely change they can hold onto the old label all they like.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 06:18 AM
2

Faith in humanity... dropping... Some people just can't let an issue go.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 06:04 AM
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She was being pelted with harassment and death threats. Can you blame her?
/r/MensRights26/12/12 06:03 AM
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Some of the more extreme MRAs in here like to think that being prohibited from voting, working, or having any say in their lives was actually a pretty good deal. Don't get me wrong, men throughout history didn't have it much better (if at all), but some radical members can't stand the suggestion that life sucked for EVERYONE prior to the last 100 years or so. People love their oppression Olympics. EDIT: I see he meant modern benefits being seen as oppression, not historical ones.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 06:00 AM
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It's more likely that the face of feminism can become more moderate, than it is for feminism to just disappear. EVERY social group in history has been forced to adapt to current ideologies or suffer their own demise. We live in the age of unlimited information: hateful acts performed by the major leaders can't be hidden from the (generally more moderate) majority like they could twenty years ago. As a result, pressure will rise on those leaders to either change or step down as their intentions a…
/r/MensRights26/12/12 05:56 AM
1

Somewhat off topic, but the narrator's voice in that video was very soothing.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 05:38 AM
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It depends on whether you're talking about institutionalized feminism or your average everyday feminist. The average feminist isn't opposed to gender equality, although the powerful leaders sometimes are.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 05:26 AM
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Although I have been treated horribly by certain activists and threatened with violence (an FBI report was filed) Goddammit people.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 05:24 AM
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Wow.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 10:28 PM
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Circumcision does bring benefits from reducing risks of HIV/STD's. Or you could, you know, teach your son to wear condoms rather than slicing up his dick. The protection received from condoms is much higher (and has a lot more science backing it up) than that from circumcision.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 09:35 PM
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Yup, that's why it's totally acceptable to rape someone as long as you slip them a few roofies beforehand. /s
/r/MensRights23/12/12 09:32 PM
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If you ask me, a ban on religiously motivated circumcision will only force families to take their children to uncertified medical practitioners Because a Moyle cutting off foreskin with an often-unsanitized knife and then sucking a bleeding penis with his disgusting germ-laden mouth is so safe and sanitary.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 09:29 PM
1

I've had a few girls flat-out tell me that being uncircumcised is a major turnoff. Why are you dating such shallow women?
/r/MensRights23/12/12 09:26 PM
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Some feminists have proposed changes to the law that would enable a man to be convicted of rape, simply because a woman said he raped her. wat Source?
/r/MensRights23/12/12 08:38 PM
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It's not really about first impressions though, it's about Stockholme Syndrome. Someone who holds you against your will, threatens to starve you to death unless you comply with their demands, screams at you for the slightest infraction, and chases after you when you try to escape isn't someone you should be around. Doesn't matter about gender either; we have plenty of men in here who have wives/girlfriends that are abusive in a similar manner to Beast, and it's just as serious. That's not a lack…
/r/MensRights23/12/12 08:14 PM
1

Oh, I thought it just tagged anyone who had posted to SRS at all.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 06:54 AM
2

TIL Jackie Chan has a hell of a voice.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 05:07 PM
2

A lot of people with SRS tags only posted there once or twice trying to argue with crazy people, and then quickly learned their lesson.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 05:06 PM
3

Violent crime has been going down steadily since the 1980s. You need to brush up on your history.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 05:05 PM
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Cinderella, Snow White, Aurora, and Ariel seemed hell-bent on marrying men they just barely met. Beauty and the Beast is actually pretty scary when you think about it: no matter how much he scares you, threatens you, starves you, or yells at you, if you just love him hard enough he will change and become the kind and affectionate man you've always dreamed of. Mulan, Rapunzel, Pocahontas, Tiana, and Jasmine are all really great characters though.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 05:03 PM
3

It most likely is.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:44 AM
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Or she was sharing a funny picture making fun of gender stereotypes in an attempt to make her son smile.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:31 AM
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I don't think you understand the picture. It also says that women are selfish and entitled people who want men to wait on them hand and foot. Both poems are equally sexist, and that's why it's called a joke.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:29 AM
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Most women. Totally. /s
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:24 AM
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I think it's pointing out the unrealistic expectations often found in both men and women.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:23 AM
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Does he not have a fucking cell phone? Why the fuck isn't he recording this? Audio or video, doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 04:04 PM
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I gotcha. Sorry, the attitude in this subreddit is quite often "Divorce is literally Hitler and parents should just stay together no matter how miserable they are because the kids totally won't pick up on the passive aggression and anger!"
/r/MensRights19/12/12 06:27 PM
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The hell do you live where single moms are the majority? 41% of first marriages end in divorce, but 66% of divorced couples are childless. In addition, the divorce rate for educated and financially independent men and women is only about 20%. Not saying you're lying, but I am saying you should move because there's something in the water. Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/19/health/19divo.html?_r=0 http://www.divorcerate.org
/r/MensRights19/12/12 05:19 PM
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The parents staying together probably wouldn't have added much stability, to be honest. It's better for everyone if the parents acted like fucking adults during and after a divorce rather than trying to see who can get the most vengeance on the other. Speaking from first hand experience, parents at each other's throats will fuck a kid up more than anything, doesn't matter who lives with whom or where.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 05:05 PM
3

Well, it's certainly not just fantasy.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 07:30 AM
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And if you marry an employed women who then decides she wants to be a housewife, you're stuck. I should hope that by the time you decide to marry a woman you have a deep enough knowledge of her work ethic. It also helps if she's working in a field she's passionate in, because she will pretty much never quit. If she does, put your money in a separate account and only pay for bills and food, don't give her spending money unless she gets another job. Second, you all act like a stay at home mom is l…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 06:00 AM
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Yup. My father got my little brother addicted to heroin at 13. Fucker can jump off a cliff for all I care.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 10:53 PM
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Because it's about appreciating the important role that fathers play in their children's lives. Father's rights is a huge part of the MRM.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 10:52 PM
1

Not really, no. It seems to be a remnant from traditional gender roles. Feminism focused strictly on freeing women from their roles while society continued to have archaic expectations for men. Again, it's a social problem.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 09:03 AM
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I agree.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 07:15 AM
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Marriage isn't sacred. It's a ceremony that some people choose to have to celebrate their relationship. A married couple isn't any better off than a happy couple that is simply living together. It has nothing to do with God or religion or anything else "sacred."
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:29 AM
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Um, then you put your money in a separate account or get the marriage annulled. And fuck, there's nothing stopping a man from doing the same thing. The vast majority of families are dual income anyway, so it's obviously not like spouses are quitting their jobs in droves to become leeches.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:27 AM
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It's because most of the criticism is coming from outside their group. If they get more members to pressure on them they'll change.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:24 AM
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It's more likely that the face of feminism will change as opposed to women renouncing feminism. Social movements and the definitions of terms are fluid.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 04:43 AM
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However, there's a reason divorces used to be unheard of, and feminists are the reason that is no longer the case. You need to read up on your history. It used to be unheard of because it was considered a sin by the Christian majority and it was virtually impossible for women to get a career with a livable wage. Marriages didn't last until death because relationships were all sunshine and rainbows with everyone emotionally fulfilled and happy, they lasted because you literally had no choice but …
/r/MensRights16/12/12 04:42 AM
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Your average feminist doesn't actually understand the term "patriarchy theory" and it's simply a buzzword. Your average feminist also believes many statistics and ideological principles which make it hard for men to be believed when they discuss problems they have. True. But we fight this by citing well-supported facts from respected institutions, not showing them opinion blogs or trying to convince women that feminists are literally Hitler.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 03:31 AM
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For starters, your claim that feminists don't want marital benefits for men is ridiculous. On that note, what benefit does marriage offer women that isn't available to men? Marriage is a legal institution, and there is zero legal difference between the genders in marriage. The complaints about child support and alimony bias are valid, but that is 1) a social problem, not a legal one, and 2) those are only benefits from divorce, not marriage. If you're going to make the claim that women can just …
/r/MensRights16/12/12 03:19 AM
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Why then are feminists lobbying for gay marriage? By your definition, you would think feminists would hate gay men and the idea that they could get married and "escape" from women.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 01:07 AM
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"Intercourse is the pure, sterile, formal expression of men's contempt for women." Go ahead and read this excerpt from her book.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 12:58 AM
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TL;DR anyone who doesn't call themselves a feminist is selfish and doesn't care about women. Knock that shit off, seriously.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 05:10 PM
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Are you implying that women aren't strong enough to pick their own interests in the face of big bad media and societal influence?
/r/MensRights15/12/12 05:07 PM
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Your average feminist is perfectly reasonable. Feminism should stick to women's issues, MRM should stick to men's issues, and both sides shouldn't try to vilify the other.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 05:04 PM
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Feminism isn't the only group fighting gender roles nor is it the only one that can defeat them.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 08:15 AM
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If both sides could tone down their anger, they'd be two sides of the same equality coin.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 08:11 AM
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I get where you're coming from. This is why I think they should just call feminism what it is: a women's interest group. It's perfectly acceptable for them to emphasize their own gender, just as you do yours. It becomes a problem when a specialized interest group says that they can fix everyone else's problems. Let feminism focus on women's issues (because they certainly have some, especially in other countries) and disposing of female gender roles, and let MRM focus on men's issues and disposin…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 11:55 PM
2

Saying that everyone suffers isn't a victim mindset.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:53 PM
1

A little off topic, but holy shit. Six months ago a post like this would be downvoted to hell and back. I really like the direction this subreddit is going lately. :)
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:53 PM
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I wouldn't give feminism all the credit for turning Sweden into such an awesome and stable country. There's a ton of different factors at play there.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:51 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. I don't think feminism having primary focus on female issues is inherently a bad thing, they're a women's group. They don't automatically have an obligation to try to fix men's problems, just like the MRM doesn't have an obligation to fix all of women's problems, because they're a men's group. If both sides could tone down the vitriol and stop the fucking oppression olympics, they'd be different sides of the same coin. We really only run into issues with feminism wh…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:49 PM
2

They're generally of the opinion that doing away with gender roles will do away with all gender-based issues. Which is, for the most part, completely true. However, they believe that feminism is the only way to get rid of said gender roles, which may or may not be the case, especially with radfems running the show. But your average feminist is pretty reasonable, they just think that feminism == no more gender roles.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:45 PM
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Most libertarians are pretty socially liberal, they just want lower spending. A perfectly reasonable position, I might add. There's just the few wingnuts out there with the mentality of "FUCK YOU I GOT MINE" that give the rest of the party a really bad name; that attitude is also fairly common in far (far) right conservatism, which is why they tend to get lumped together. A party is always classified by its worst members. We see it when people call the MRM a hateful and misogynist group, we see …
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:42 PM
1

Equity feminism (the kind we don't hate) does tend to focus more on human rights, although with higher emphasis on the female side. Human rights is definitely a more socialist viewpoint.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:35 PM
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Australia is already partially socialist, but in all of the good areas. Healthcare, education, reasonable business regulations, and so forth. A healthy mix of socialism and capitalism tends to work out best while preserving basic human rights.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:23 PM
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Hell yes. Any self-respecting MRA should have an acute awareness of their own potential bias, so they can avoid hypocrisy as much as possible.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:22 PM
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Agreed. In my experience, it's more socially conservative or traditional women who expect or even insist for a man to pay for the check, because they tend to align themselves with traditional gender roles. A lot of the more liberal women I know are perfectly fine with (or even prefer) splitting the check.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:17 PM
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I think you just put her on the defensive by immediately going after feminism. For most women (ie, not involved with the major organizations), feminism is equality. Your average feminist can be perfectly reasonable and usually doesn't want more rights than men. When you start off the conversation by "attacking" feminism without explaining what the term means to you, they take it as a personal attack and get defensive, which pretty much guarantees they won't listen to anything you say after that.…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:14 PM
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Don't try to stop war for the benefit of women. Don't try to stop it for the benefit of men. Stop it for the benefit of humanity.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 10:31 PM
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Oh yes, a personal blog full of conjecture and unsupported claims is excellent evidence.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 10:23 PM
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My marriage is quite sexually fulfilling, thank you. :)
/r/MensRights12/12/12 09:43 PM
2

Meh. Not only is this probably the most reposted image in the history of /r/mensrights, it's important to remember that even people who are normally very smart and reasonable aren't immune to saying stupid shit on occasion. This quote was poorly thought out on her part, but let's not forget that she recently told women who are unhappy with their career or family choices to quit whining and do something about it. She may have a backwards view of war victims but at least she's telling the whiny an…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 09:33 PM
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How's that life of celibacy working out for you?
/r/MensRights12/12/12 09:29 PM
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No one is exempt from the occasional bad idea or misled belief. Hell, Lincoln himself probably said some stupid shit at times. I'm not going to let this one quote destroy my high regard for Hillary. She has also said some awesome things as well, like when she told women who are unhappy with their career or family choices to stop whining and do something about it.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 09:26 PM
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it's important to recognize that no one is necessarily suffering "more" but we would like the world to know that women aren't the only one's suffering. THANK YOU. I'm so fucking sick of the oppression olympics. Can't we just agree that war sucks for everyone involved?
/r/MensRights12/12/12 09:18 PM
3

She is forcing you to penetrate her. Yes, it is rape.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 07:50 PM
0

A woman forcing your penis into her is still penetration. That definition allows for men to be victims of female rapists.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 07:49 PM
2

Not quite true. The federal definition of rape was updated this year to include men. However, prosecution is based entirely upon state laws, which don't have to match federal laws.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 07:47 PM
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No, they're denounced as sexist because they desperately try to hold on to traditional gender roles (and by extension, male disposability), something the MRM is adamantly opposed to. The reason socially conservative states have the harshest divorce and family laws is because they're stuck in the 19th century mentality, where men are always the providers and women can't possibly support themselves. Traditionalism is the last thread upon which chivalrous obligation and female entitlement hangs.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 04:25 AM
0

Sure. What about the right wing MRAs who want to see the restoration of traditional gender roles, thus continuing the burden placed on the shoulders of men and reducing women to the accountability and responsibility of children (albeit with sexual benefits)? You don't have to be a genius to notice the correlation between the harshest divorce and family courts and the most socially conservative states.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 01:49 AM
0

Because women are always looking for an opportunity to jump ship and fuck over as many men as possible.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 12:03 AM
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if it is coming from a female assume it is a lie or confabulation You must be a hit with the ladies.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 11:33 PM
1

http://news.discovery.com/history/pyramids-tombs-giza-egypt.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8451538.stm http://www.history.com/topics/the-egyptian-pyramids http://harvardmagazine.com/2003/07/who-built-the-pyramids-html Please don't take your history lessons from the Bible.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 08:43 PM
2

Women do not have the same loyalties that men have If this were true nobody would ever stay together until death.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 08:39 PM
0

Almost every woman I know, myself included, has full-time jobs. Those who only work part-time also go to school full-time. Not to mention the fact that OP's image is as fake (and almost as old) as Norse mythology.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 08:35 PM
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Of course.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 07:49 PM
2

Child support is completely different. Most people here would be fine with child support if it were reformed to reasonable levels, and if men were offered the chance for financial abortions during the period when women can get medical abortions. Supporting your child is one thing, supporting a full grown adult just because you lived with them for a while is quite another.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 07:49 PM
1

The pyramids weren't built by slaves. They were built by well-paid laborers who were provided with healthy food and plenty of water, medical care, good housing to live in during their 3 month shifts, and given honorable burials in stone tombs near the pyramids where the pharaohs lay. Such honors and provisions would never be given to slaves.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 07:46 PM
2

Totally, that's why no relationship ever lasts and people never grow old together. /s
/r/MensRights09/12/12 07:37 PM
1

Because modern first world women don't ever work. /s
/r/MensRights09/12/12 07:34 PM
1

They could if she were particularly wealthy and he made significantly less money. I know if my husband and I were to divorce, I'd almost certainly be the one paying alimony. Thankfully that won't be the case because a) we're definitely not getting divorced, and b) he thinks alimony is as stupid as I do.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 07:34 PM
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The socially conservative states tend to have the worst divorce and family laws, because gender roles are huge there. Women are seen as the nurturing homemakers and men are the financial providers. Women can't possibly care for themselves so the men need to care for them. Want to see family values and gender roles (which are of course reflected in the law) severe enough to make you want to vomit? Head over to Utah, the worst of the bunch.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 07:27 PM
4

Shh, shh... you're interrupting the circlejerk.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 07:23 PM
8

Okay, and some guys like small tits, doesn't mean every woman should get a breast reduction. I don't care what adults do to their own dicks, but there is no reason to do it to a baby. I for one wouldn't want my son to date women that will judge him based solely on what his penis looks like.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 08:36 AM
6

It's definitely a strawman, but it's funny. Most of the stuff in this sub is so pessimistic or depressing, it's nice to see a little lightheartedness. This same comic would go over well in /r/funny if you left feminism out of the headline. I'd go with "Political Correctness: this is what we've come to?"
/r/MensRights04/12/12 07:16 AM
1

Eh, I'd have to disagree. Women generally stop growing when they're 15 or 16, men continue until they're 19-21. It's also why girls will generally be taller than boys until they're about 13.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 05:14 AM
0

Having been a 17 year old girl, the stereotype that women have no sexual desires pisses me right the fuck off. Perhaps age of consent needs to be brought down a bit. Well duh.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 05:01 AM
0

Having been a 17 year old girl, the stereotype that women have no sexual desires pisses me right the fuck off.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 05:01 AM
0

Personally, I feel neither a man or a woman in this situation should face jail time, but age of consent laws aren't always rational.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:59 AM
2

No, you're right. States with AoC of 18 (like Utah, where this happened) are fucking stupid. 16 is perfectly acceptable.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:55 AM
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Unfortunately, not in Utah. Age of consent is 18, although they have a close in age exception (within ten years) for 16 and 17 year olds. She was 12 years older than him. Personally, I think the AOC should be 16 for the entire country, but it's not about whether he was raped (he wasn't), it's about the fact that the woman got a lenient sentence whereas a man would not.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:53 AM
0

Well, they do, but only physically. Mentally is a whole different story.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:51 AM
3

Utah resident here. Totally ass-backward state, conservatism and traditional gender roles reign supreme, thanks to the good old Mormon church. A lot of MRAs complain that some women act like children; the LDS church makes that one of their primary focuses (speaking from experience as a female ex-mormon). Women literally have zero agency, they're just precious little angels who are pressured to marry as young as they possibly can to keep them as ignorant and naive as the day they were born. While…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:42 AM
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Circumcised men are the biggest roadblock to having it outlawed. They often don't want to accept that they were violated, or that they're missing out on sexual pleasure, so they perpetuate circumcision as a way to convince themselves that it's okay.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 05:34 PM
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I'm in the same boat, only genders swapped. I've told my husband that this is one of very few areas I refuse to compromise, and if he does it without my consent it's grounds for divorce. Period.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 05:23 PM
2

As long as we don't start saying "misogyny don't real," I'm cool with that.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 12:36 AM
2

Apparently defending yourself == insulting the opposition
/r/MensRights28/11/12 12:35 AM
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Some more: 1 to point out that men having to change the light-bulb is yet another example of male disposability 1 to ask why he has to support a light-bulb he never wanted in the first place 1 to say that women want all the benefits of incandescent lighting with none of the responsibilities
/r/MensRights28/11/12 12:33 AM
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I never said they pretend to work toward human rights, but they do sometimes project the idea that fixing women's problems will by proxy fix everyone else's. It's perfectly okay to focus on women's problems, but at least be honest about what you're doing. You can name just about any problem that any group has suffered, and they will frequently try to figure out how it comes down to women. I know not all feminists do this, but there are many who will try to claim that virtually every issue imagin…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 11:04 PM
2

None of what you said made any sense. Something about pissing on celebrities to look good...? But anyway, trying to end FGM doesn't mean we can't also help homeless men. Trying to end courtroom bias doesn't mean we can't help women in the middle east.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 10:30 PM
2

You know what that sounds like? "FGM is not important because some men kill themselves." They're all important and they all deserve attention. This is not a zero-sum game, stop with the fucking Oppression Olympics.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 09:36 PM
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Good luck getting many feminists and MRAs alike to give up the Oppression Olympics.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 09:36 PM
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I agree, it can be taken to mean that the MRM will take care of rights for everyone so nothing else is needed. It won't, nor does it claim to; it is an advocacy group specializing for rights of men. And that's okay. Feminism, on the other hand, claims that it will take care of rights for everyone despite the fact that it is also a specialized advocacy group, but for women. Again, nothing wrong with specialization, but it's disingenuous for them to claim, "If my problems are taken care of then yo…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 09:33 PM
1

Good luck getting 51% of voters to agree with you.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 09:22 PM
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And it's ridiculous, because you'll hear the same thing from circumcised women that circumcised men say: "My genitals work just fine and I experience just as much pleasure as anyone else!" A woman without a clitoris cannot know how amazing having a clitoris is, and a man without a foreskin cannot know what he's missing either. I'm sure cut men and some cut women have plenty of sensation, but they are incapable of imagining that they might have more.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 09:21 PM
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It's not really a straw man, they do that all the time (each word is a separate link). "Men need feminism," "Feminism is for everyone," "If you don't call yourself a feminist you don't want equal rights for women," and so on. Again, it's okay to want to specialize in a specific group. But it is pretty foolish to claim that by fixing the problems faced by your own group, all other problems will be resolved, and therefore another specialized group isn't needed (or is even detrimental).
/r/MensRights27/11/12 06:05 AM
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You are absolutely right. I'll edit my post to reflect that. :)
/r/MensRights27/11/12 12:55 AM
2

Yup, most men I know would much prefer to have a prostate exam done by a woman.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 12:33 AM
3

Men are more likely to understand what women's issues feel like?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 12:32 AM
1

Oh, it was probably something different then. Damn, now I want to see it, I need a good laugh.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:22 PM
1

What I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with wanting to focus on one side's problems (like what the MRM does with men's rights). But when you claim to speak for all humans (which is what feminism tries to say, unlike the MRM), you can't have such a gendered term as your title, it's incredibly divisive and exclusionary. If they want to be called feminism, then they need to stick to women's issues and not A)try to take away the rights of men and B)let the men handle their own issues, don't try to…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:17 PM
1

Was it in a crappy 1950s style and slathered in oversimplifications? I think from Manhood Academy? If so, I know which one that is... it's pretty stupid.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:13 PM
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What I'm saying is that men are far more likely to have an accurate understanding of men's issues, much like women are far more likely to have an accurate understanding of women's issues. This isn't black and white.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:12 PM
1

If Western feminism doesn't believe in the patriarchy and wants to fight for everyone's rights, why call it feminism?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:49 PM
0

Since when do MRA's fight against women's rights?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:48 PM
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That was primarily due to Phyllis Schlafly, who is a staunch conservative antifeminist that rallied the conservative vote against the ERA in the 1970s (which, in case you can't do math, was over 40 years ago). She firmly believes that women should all be stay-at-home moms without careers, submit to the will of men, and align themselves with traditional gender roles. She's anti choice, says that marital rape is impossible (marriage is consent to sex), opposed to same-sex marriage, and claims that…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:31 PM
0

Every group has their nutjobs. I can only hope that the MRM will do more to separate itself from theirs than mainstream feminism has done with the radfems. Whenever a radfem goes on a tirade about how all men should be exterminated, you never hear the big feminist organizations clarifying that those are not the beliefs of mainstream feminists. They just stay silent, and I hope the MRM won't do the same.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:19 PM
1

All equity feminists are gender egalitarians, but not all gender egalitarians are equity feminists. Feminism by definition requires belief in the patriarchy theory. I'd say that a majority here feel that "patriarchy" is overblown at best and an outright falsehood at worst. Even though I am a woman and I strongly support rights for men and women, since I feel that the patriarchy theory is incorrect I cannot be labelled a feminist.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:12 PM
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Thank you. Feminism in and of itself isn't the problem, it's sexist feminists at the top who have a lot of political power. You average run of the mill feminist does not sympathize with radfems, and really does want equality. More and more women are realizing that a gendered term like feminism can't address the issues faced by the other half of the human race.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:09 PM
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That doesn't mean that women can't discuss men's issues, or men can't discuss women's issues. There are plenty of people with the empathy and understanding to grasp the issues of the other side. However, GWW only knows what she knows because of what men have told her about their experiences. Only a man can know what it's like to be a man, and only a woman can know what it's like to be a woman.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:07 PM
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It's to say that the MRM and equality are not mutually exclusive, contrary to popular belief.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:04 PM
3

Most of that is due to sexuality, since a lot of women are uncomfortable with their vagina's being touched by another woman. People generally don't like their genitals being touched by someone who is not of their preferred sex, even if it's non-sexual contact. EDIT: Thank you minibeardeath for your clarification! :)
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:03 PM
3

What did he say? I need to start quoting ridiculous comments that are likely to get removed, for posterity's sake...
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:01 PM
3

This gemgemgemgem
/r/MensRights26/11/12 07:39 AM
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That's okay. And for the record, I'm not the one downvoting you.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:17 PM
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That wasn't really saying that she wanted November to become a women's rights month, she just wants to see if she can go a month without shaving to escape the social pressure to remove female body hair, since there's no reason why hair should be seen as gross. I don't particularly see a problem with that, I hate shaving my legs. :)
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:02 PM
4

You're fucking kidding me. Link?
/r/MensRights25/11/12 10:35 PM
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I agree. The MRM has excellent goals, much like original feminism did. However the MRM will inevitably end up like feminism is today, it's just how activism groups work. They can't stay pure forever. If we do away with one-sided activism (which in and of itself is not inherently a bad thing), we can hopefully avoid the inevitable corruption since we will be fighting for the rights of all groups, not just focusing on one. It's why I really hope the egalitarian movement picks up steam.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 10:31 PM
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I usually tell feminists that since I disagree with the patriarchy theory I can't by definition call myself a feminist since it's a core tenant. They usually concede that point.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 09:39 PM
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In their minds, merely mentioning MGM is exactly the same as downplaying FGM. They see it as black and white; if you give your attention to any other group it means you hate women and want them to become chattel with no rights.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 09:37 PM
1

What the fuck is wrong with a little compromise? Or are relationships just a stupid game to you where you can't let the other person "win?"
/r/MensRights25/11/12 05:09 PM
0

Yup. If there's one thing that I wish the founding fathers hadn't done, it's the stupid "separate states, united country." It's made our legislature a complete clusterfuck and made our rights entirely subjective to the local culture of each state.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 04:52 AM
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It's unconstitutional on the national level, but individual states can pretty much do whatever they want until the federal courts rule otherwise. So unless it gets challenged in the Supreme Court, it's here to say. It's just one of the many unnecessary problems caused by having separate states instead of a single country. Edit: I think I made some libertarians mad. :)
/r/MensRights22/11/12 10:40 PM
1

Damn, it's like the Salem witch trials or lynch-mobs.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 10:38 PM
1

He did not mention it. Suggesting freezing sperm is kind of a big deal and extremely relevant to the conversation, there's no reason for him not to mention it if it's already come up.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 04:37 PM
3

I had a couple of one night stands get pissed at me for never calling them again While a dick move, that certainly doesn't warrant being called a rapist. I wouldn't take the twitterverse seriously though, it's full of nothing but morons.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 05:18 AM
2

Yes, and she failed. The only case where a woman was successful is when she forged her ex-husband's signature on a consent form and inseminated herself. She sued for child support, but he was actually able to get it overturned. Men have reproductive rights, they simply end once the sperm is inside a woman (wrongfully so, of course). Until that sperm enters a woman, he does indeed have control over what happens to it.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 05:07 AM
2

Why should it? I can't go and refinance the loan on my husband's car just because I'm his wife, nor can he go look into my medical records or get a transcript of my therapy sessions. Just because you're married doesn't mean you become one single person in the eyes of the law and anything goes.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 04:29 AM
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Go get the vasectomy. (unless she somehow manages to convince you otherwise) It's your body, do what you want. She's put a crazy claim out there; call her on it. For the record, I agree with you 100%. But I can't help but wonder how mensrights would react if the genders were swapped. Would they be condemning the wife for wanting to take away a man's ability to pass on his genes? Or for saying she will absolutely get an abortion if she does get pregnant?
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:26 AM
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There is an option 4, you know. Have a heartfelt discussion with wife and come to an acceptable compromise; for example have the vasectomy but freeze some sperm in case he does change his mind in the future. Live a happy life and celebrate the step forward in your cooperation skills as a couple. Jesus, some of you people in here are so pessimistic it's nauseating.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:20 AM
1

Just freeze some sperm. That way she'll know the option of more kids is still available should you ever change your mind, but insemination would require your consent.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:06 AM
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She can't withdraw it anyway without his consent. The laws are extremely strict about that.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:05 AM
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Using sex as a bargaining chip and a method of control is considered emotional abuse. To be fair, it is impossible to have a relationship that has never experienced even a little abuse, because relationships are a perpetual learning process. It's about the severity and the persistence of said abuse.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:03 AM
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How many people would side with the OP outside of this subreddit Probably a lot, actually. Askreddit, for example, loves abusive wife/girlfriend stories.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:02 AM
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He shouldn't lie about it. His marriage is on shaky ground as it is, if he wants to stay married he should sit down with her and talk it out. If they can't agree they should get a divorce. Dishonesty doesn't have to come into the picture.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:01 AM
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Using sex as a bargaining chip and a method of control is emotional abuse, which is not punishable by law.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:00 AM
1

That's... what I said? The stuff he did was wrong, but it didn't warrant castration. It's not so much the fact that he apologized to her that is jaw-dropping, but the fact that she didn't apologize to him. At least as far as I know.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:20 AM
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and entertainment? Who said anything about entertainment? I certainly didn't and I didn't see anyone else mentioning that either. All anyone would get is extremely basic food, shelter, and healthcare, but if they ever want modern comforts, cars, nice houses/furniture, or just to do anything other than stare at a wall for 24 hours per day, they'll have to work. Such provisions would be highly dependent on regular drug testing, of course. You also seem to be under the impression that the only peop…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 06:28 PM
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They both appeared on Oprah in 2009, where he apologized for what he did to her. No apologies from her, of course, but still. :/
/r/MensRights19/11/12 06:07 PM
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In /r/atheism, no less.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 07:15 AM
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I guess, but how could anyone use that as a reason to not fund cancer research? "Prostate cancer can't get as much attention as breast cancer because some people want to make abortion illegal." Mental gymnastics, I'm telling you.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 06:34 AM
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Why does a single gender establishment have to be about fear? I see nothing wrong with a women only business, why the hell would a men only business be any different?
/r/MensRights19/11/12 04:00 AM
2

What in the hell do abortion rights have to do with breast or prostate cancer?
/r/MensRights19/11/12 03:49 AM
7

All communism is socialism, but not all socialism is communism.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 03:28 AM
1

*you're
/r/MensRights18/11/12 05:31 PM
1

Seeing as I prefer to surround myself with people who don't act like I took a shit on their mother when I point out where they may be wrong, it's never been much of a problem. Also, it's "you're," as in the contraction for "you are."
/r/MensRights18/11/12 08:12 AM
2

Yeah, if there's one thing I've learned in /r/mensrights is that you should never, ever take the title at face value. While there's a ton of good stuff here, some people will also misunderstand or over-react, if not just make outright fabrications.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 11:29 PM
1

When would this magical time be? And do you have numbers to back that up? Anecdotes are not evidence as they are frequently subject to memory bias. People who live in poverty today have a much higher standard of living than people in poverty 40 or 50 years ago. Hell, they have a better standard of living now than any other time in history. Obviously mere charity alone wasn't enough to provide the poor with adequate food, shelter, and clothing. EDIT: And quit downvoting me just because you disagr…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 08:10 PM
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The ideal system is that of Germany. Extremely high standard of living, flourishing manufacturing industry, socialized healthcare, strong safety net, yet very few who need to actually need to take advantage of said net. Germany is by far the most stable nation in the EU right now, so whatever they're doing, it's working. What's more, German tax rates are not much higher than US tax rates (especially not for the middle class), so obviously taxation isn't the problem. And government regulation has…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 06:11 PM
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If it makes you feel any better, she's still going to court and is practically guaranteed to be convicted. OP misunderstood the article.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:24 PM
1

Men can legally file rape charges now; it was only prior to this year that rape was classed as "other sexual abuse." Any future rape studies will hopefully be more accurate.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:20 PM
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There was nothing in the article about a plea bargain, where on earth are you getting that idea? The word "plea" isn't anywhere on that page! Look up the definition of "recognizance" and get back to me, mmkay? The only thing that has been offered to her is that she can do community service in place of bail, but she has to wear an ankle monitor at all times; this is not special treatment, courts do it all the time. Just because she's getting recognizance on her bail DOES NOT mean she isn't going …
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:08 PM
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Oh no, I read your comments, all of them. That was the most accurate description, but let's try again, shall we? "There is nothing in the rules that specifically says pre-pubescent aged boys are not allowed to grow facial hair, therefore discrimination. Blarghargh wimminz ruining everything yet again!"
/r/MensRights17/11/12 06:28 AM
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TL;DR Air-Bud logic: There's nothing in the rules that says a dog can't play basketball, so I guess we'll have to let the dog play basketball!
/r/MensRights17/11/12 06:16 AM
1

You wouldn't know that looking in /r/politics though.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 03:24 AM
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Both parties do that. Repubs say no abortion and no gay marriage libs say no smokes and no fatty foods. They don't ban them, per se, they just tax the shit out of them. Namely because smokers and obscenely fat people are a burden on the system when their health goes to shit. Best way to say it is Feminism is liberalism but liberalism is not feminism. I can agree with that.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 03:15 AM
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By that same logic George W. Bush is a murderer for doing nothing to stop the 9/11 attacks despite having plenty of warning. ...You know, I can actually get behind that.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 10:13 PM
2

She clearly only tried to get her hair cut there so she could throw a fit. Why the fuck would you want to get your hair cut by people who have absolutely no experience with female hair styles? Why the hell can't she just go to a salon or another barbershop?
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:47 PM
1

I see. Fortunately this woman will absolutely face justice. Courts usually don't look very kindly on women who abuse very young children. Now, if he was a 15 or 16 year old, they'd probably just slap her on the wrist, whereas if the genders were swapped the man would be thrown in prison in a heartbeat. But in this case, justice will be served. :)
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:44 PM
2

Yes, because courtroom bias against men never ever existed prior to January of 2009. /s You really think you'd be in a different position if McCain had won? Or Romney? They're all just different horses in the same pony show. None of them give a single shit about you. But if it makes you feel better to blame all of your problems on Obama, go for it.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:38 PM
2

The marriage system is horribly biased against men and it's never going to change unless men opt out. I feel that marriage should be done away with because it's an antiquated institution that offers no benefit to virtually anyone, aside from the occasional gold-digger. There is no difference in the quality of my relationship with my husband now versus when we were just living together. It's just a stupid piece of paper that is entirely unnecessary.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:35 PM
2

I do wish Obama had pushed harder for a single-payer system. :( Are you calling him a murderer because of the drones? I can see your reasoning there. Or are you calling him a murderer because of something else?
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:32 PM
2

I disagree with the whole "liberal women want the government for a husband to take care of them." I'm a flaming liberal, yet I make twice as much money as my husband and I'm quite happy doing so. I don't see the social safety net and universal healthcare as a way to keep people who don't want to work happy, I see it as a way to help people who are down on their luck. Sure, you'll get some freeloaders, but it's pretty ridiculous to put honest hardworking men and women who hit a rough patch at ris…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:30 PM
2

Amen to that! Far too many people hear socialism and think "free cars and iPads for all and no one ever has to work!" In reality, moderate socialism (ie, not Communism) gives you your basic healthcare, food, and housing, but if you ever want anything more than that, you're gonna have to get off your ass and work, buddy.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:19 PM
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Depends on your definition of big government. Republicans sure do love the government when it tries to step in and tell people what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. Social issues? Yay government, tell those gays they can't get married, jail those pot-smokers, and tell those women they can't control their own reproductive systems! Fiscal issues? NO IT'S MY MONEY MINE MINE MINE!!!! Feminism pushes extremely traditional gender roles for men, while trying to remove gender roles for wome…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:14 PM
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Heck, it'll probably happen to the MRM someday. It's quite likely, in fact. I don't like calling myself a MRA, because what I really am is an Egalitarian. Same here.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:09 PM
0

First of all, being financially well off and being liberal are not mutually exclusive. There are plenty of rich people who are in favor of liberal ideals (Warren Buffet, Bill Gates), and there are plenty of poor people who are right-wing conservatives (you need only look at the Bible Belt). While the men's rights movement does tend to attract more conservatives than other major subreddits, I'd wager that most of us are either pretty moderate or center-left. Me, I'm a flaming liberal. I think a S…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:07 PM
1

Ha, you're right! I live in Utah so I just saw Farmington and my brain filled in the rest.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 07:40 PM
1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognizance
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:58 PM
2

You didn't read the article, did you?
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:57 PM
1

No, that's just for the aggravated sexual assault. She'll almost certainly get more from the other crimes she's also charged with.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:56 PM
2

OP lied, read the article. She's facing at least 20 years, if not more.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:55 PM
2

Please read the article.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:54 PM
4

Because OP blatantly lied in the title.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:53 PM
3

No they didn't, they clearly said he was between the ages of 7 and 10. The whole "under 16“ bit relates specifically to Utah New Hampshire law. Her punishment would be much less severe if he were 16.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:52 PM
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Because it's usually not necessary. The school probably doesn't have anything regarding facial hair because it's extraordinarily rare for 9-13 year old boys to grow any. There's a lot schools don't put in their policies, but it doesn't mean there's a loophole. Besides, it's a private school, they're not exactly known for promoting individuality, and they can do whatever the hell they want. There's nothing in the dress code saying girls can't grow beards, but if one girl happened to be a freak th…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:00 PM
1

Aww, he doesn't like it when people point out that he's wrong. How cute.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:55 PM
0

Most schools don't allow 13 year old boys to grow mustaches. And private schools aren't exactly renowned for promoting self-expression.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:02 AM
1

As a compromise, the school has allowed the teenager to organise a charity dress down day on 30 November, in which students will be allowed to wear fake moustaches for a £1 donation. Read the article please.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:01 AM
1

Most schools don't allow 13 year old boys to grow a mustache.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:59 AM
1

You seem to be under the impression that most 9-13 year old boys can grow a mustache.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:59 AM
1

Boys in elementary and middle school are frequently disallowed from doing so.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:57 AM
1

You clearly didn't read the article.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:56 AM
1

There is exactly nothing on that site that says men are not allowed to participate. The only reason the site is full of pictures of women is because breast cancer primarily affects females (although men can and do get breast cancer). EDIT: There's a picture of a man on the volunteer page.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:43 AM
0

Most elementary and middle schools forbid boys from growing facial hair. It has nothing to do with gender.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:34 AM
1

But you don't see the school banning girls who mature early, do you? No, but schools do strictly enforce dress codes that forbid young girls from wearing low-cut or tight shirts. Not to mention boys can shave, but girls can't cut off their breasts.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:32 AM
2

Men get breast cancer all the time.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:30 AM
2

Misleading (read: utterly false) title. Movember wasn't banned because girls can't grow facial hair, one boy was banned from growing a mustache because most of the other boys wouldn't be able to grow out their facial hair. However, his father Paul Hooker said the teenager was refused permission because he would look "different". Mr Hooker said he was told his son was one of only a few pupils of his age with facial hair and the others would be unable to take part. In addition, the school came up …
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:27 AM
3

Ignoring the fact that men are drastically more likely to experience violence of nearly any kind, groping is not about being "in fear for your life." It's offensive because it is disrespectful, plain and simple.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 01:29 AM
3

because it's more likely the man means malice. Bullshit. Expressing a desire for sex does not automatically mean the guy is a potential rapist. He is most certainly in the wrong if he is crossing boundaries and invading personal space, but the whole "men are drastically more likely to get all rapey" spiel is utter garbage. Women can't defend themselves against a male attacker as easily as a man can defend himself against a woman attacker. Groping isn't about ability to defend yourself, it's abou…
/r/MensRights13/11/12 01:27 AM
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I don't get upset when men yell sexual things at me, therefore all women should feel the same way. /s
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:32 PM
2

So when a woman is sexually groped by a man who obviously wants to have sex with her and probably means no malice, it's ok?
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:23 PM
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Yes, because men will have sex with any attractive woman. It doesn't matter if he's in a committed relationship or would prefer to save sexual intimacy for people he connects with. Nope, men are sex demons and if she's even remotely attractive they'll fuck her without a second thought. Seriously, knock that shit off. You're part of the problem.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:19 PM
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You're missing the point. When a woman is groped, it's (rightfully) proclaimed as a horrible violation by most of modern society. When a man is groped, it's laughed off by most of modern society. Yes, women get groped too, however they have a lot more resources available to them (VAWA, battered women's shelters, sympathetic therapists, etc).
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:17 PM
0

"There are two types of people. People who are rapists and people who are not. I find it unfortunate that so many men seem hellbent on joining the second camp. Therefore all men are potential rapists and I will avoid them." Do you see the flaw in your logic?
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:14 PM
3

So it's different if a skinny little string-bean of a man comes up and grabs my boobs, versus some big-ass jock doing the same thing? Sorry, no. Groping does not automatically mean "I would like to rape you," however it does mean "I have zero respect for you or your personal boundaries." It doesn't matter the gender or size of who is doing it.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:12 PM
1

dafuq is swole?
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:05 PM
3

Depictions of men as insatiable sex demons have existed for thousands upon thousands of years. The idea is not new in the slightest. And rape culture is not a thing. No modern culture is built upon and revolves around rape, it's just a buzzword made up by Feminists to complete the female-victimization message.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 09:56 PM
1

I've called other women dicks before. Gendered insults are becoming more and more neutral.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 09:47 PM
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Men can get erections even if they don't want to have sex. An erection is not consent, it's an involuntary response. Didn't you ever get surprise boners in middle school? You can't control it. Sometimes a woman who gets raped may have an orgasm, but that doesn't mean they consented; an erection or orgasm is just a response your body has in response to stimulation, it has nothing to do with your frame of mind. Besides, rape doesn't always involve force or strength. If you said that to a woman you…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 09:45 PM
1

That's stupid. Why would the doctors let you die so they could put your heart in someone else? Why wouldn't they just let the heart patient die and harvest his organs? I dunno. Conspiracy nuts confuse me.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 06:10 PM
0

If you don't have a problem with gay marriage, then why would you have a problem with what trans people call themselves?
/r/MensRights11/11/12 07:09 PM
2

Let me guess, you are also opposed to gay marriage because you equate it with someone marrying their dog. If you are unable to see the difference between humans and animals when it comes to personal identities, there's no point having a discussion with you.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 06:15 PM
1

Careful now, we're getting into otherkin territory.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 06:13 PM
8

Such ideas still exist in more socially conservative areas.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 06:10 PM
1

SPLOOSH
/r/MensRights09/11/12 04:47 PM
1

SSD's are so awesome. I'm guessing you were just using it as an application and OS drive though, sorry about your data.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:14 AM
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I thought about doing that with my husband's PS3 a few months ago. :) I would never dream of destroying anything that belongs to him. But when he'd sit in front of the TV for nine hours straight while the dog needed to go outside and dishes were piled to the ceiling, it was a bit of a problem. For the record, we talked it out, and now he's being much more responsible. Hooray for communication skills!
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:12 AM
1

Damn that must have been an awesome rig. Sad to see it so broken. :(
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:06 AM
4

Because everyone totally likes d/s. [/sarcasm]
/r/MensRights09/11/12 12:03 AM
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Both the mother and blueoak9 are assuming that a random stranger, whom they know nothing about, is a pedophile with virtually zero evidence
/r/MensRights07/11/12 05:17 AM
1

Wait, what? What are you talking about? It's well-established that sex trafficking is uncommon in western nations, and is a much bigger problem in developing nations. Young boys are quite frequently the ones being trafficked in such places.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 03:39 AM
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No problem, I just like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. :)
/r/MensRights06/11/12 09:30 PM
1

While I agree with you, that logic could by applied to anything. I have to obey the law? Indentured servitude! I have to pay taxes? Indentured servitude! I have to work hard in order to have a nice house and good food? Indentured servitude! I prefer to say it's morally wrong to force anyone to risk their own life against their will.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 09:20 PM
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Bullshit. Women can absolutely do every single thing on that list. The only thing stopping them is themselves. We can't just ignore or dismiss men who are depressed. Statistically, men are more likely to succeed in a suicide attempt.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 09:14 PM
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Oh I agree with you, for the most part. But it's entirely possible that this woman was just having a bad day, or watched an over-hyped Dateline special about how predators are everywhere the night before, or had a nephew who was molested by someone after getting separated from his parents. I'm not saying her actions were rational, and she very well could be a horrible witch of a woman, but we can't know that from a short encounter posted on the internet. If she attacks an ex then I know she'd ab…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 09:08 PM
4

While it will be amazing when this hits the market, this article is fucking ridiculous. Or it allowed your wife to go sleep with that dude with the 12" pecker next door and not get knocked up. Female birth control could also allow your husband to go sleep with that chick with the 34DD rack and not get her knocked up. Since when is adultery the sole domain of women? Last I checked it was split pretty evenly down the middle. Indeed, it's always been the ambitious girl's fall-back plan: find some r…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:59 PM
3

This is a blatant attempt to control human sexuality and tell adults what they can and cannot do with their own bodies.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:25 PM
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At least not in Western nations.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:22 PM
0

You're no better than the mother.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:14 PM
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While her actions were deplorable, you are in no position to make judgements on the quality or state of their relationship.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:11 PM
1

You're a good person. :)
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:07 PM
7

Let's PLEASE get more positive material like this in /r/mensrights! Thank you!
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:03 PM
2

Way to take some optimism in /r/mensrights and shit all over it.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:02 PM
2

Dude.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 12:42 AM
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Oh believe me, there was plenty of outrage. Comedy about middle school statutory rape? Does Adam Sandler’s 'That’s My Boy' go too far? Adam Sandler hates you: His new movie about a rape survivor and his estranged son is supposed to be funny, but radiates pain and rage Adam Sandler’s new movie “That’s My Boy” exploits child victims of sexual assault. Adam Sandler’s ‘That’s My Boy’ protested by child advocates The pic takes pains to make Donny the instigator of this grossly inappropriate relations…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 12:34 AM
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But in this case, there was physical evidence of abuse. It just wasn't done by the police officer; my money is on the grandmother, honestly. So they had testimony and physical evidence. Should that not have been enough? Granted, it's horrible that this man spent 13 years in jail and I want to see grandma thrown in prison for this, but I honestly can't fault the jury, judge, or prosecutors for thinking the little girl's claims were legitimate. There's no way anyone could have known she was being …
/r/MensRights06/11/12 12:20 AM
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Absolutely. Granted, I draw the line at incapacitation/unconsciousness resulting from drinking, but everything else is fair game.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 11:47 PM
1

This was absolutely not rape. He consented. But its unfortunate, if the genders were swapped, the guy would be in jail.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 11:25 PM
2

I'm amazed that this is on Huffington Post, and even more amazed that the numbers come from a feminist organization.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 11:17 PM
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But isn't the unexplained gap, albeit far less than the endlessly publicized 23 cents, still a serious injustice? Shouldn't we look for ways to compel employers to pay women the extra 5-7 cents? Not before we figure out the cause. THANK YOU.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 11:14 PM
4

"The protective benefits of using a condom are significantly higher than slight protective benefits of circumcision. Whether you're cut or intact, you should always wear a condom. So then why circumcise?" Is what I would say.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 10:49 PM
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Because that's totally relevant.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 10:47 PM
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I don't know about that. I feel that the identity of both the accuser and the accused should be withheld until a verdict is made, or at least until charges are officially brought up. If you keep the accused's identity a secret but you announce the identity of the accuser, it wouldn't be too hard to figure out who they accused.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 10:44 PM
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But then how would you go about prosecuting child abuse? Not just sexual, but also physical? If you can't trust a five year old when they say "Mommy hits me" or "Uncle Bill puts things in me," how can you a) help children in abusive situations, and b) prosecute the abusers? Clearly the justice system has failed here, and clearly the standard of evidence needs to be evaluated, but to completely dismiss anything a child says as unreliable or false is going way too far.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 10:42 PM
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Of course. I grew up in poverty, I know what it's like, and it's really not all that bad. This conversation is mostly about people who have willingly given up their parental rights, especially before the child is born. That's more than just financial, it is giving up the right to be a parent completely.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:41 PM
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Well, go ahead and talk to a few thousand women, record your findings, and get back to me. If you can show me one peer-reviewed study, or conduct one yourself and submit it for peer review, that the overwhelming majority of women (as you claimed) have absolutely zero pain, trauma, or complications, I will concede. But not only do I have firsthand experience with pregnancy, observed several dozen pregnancies myself, AND I have hundreds of national studies to back me up, I think I know how that wi…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:37 PM
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I would then repeat the experiment over and over again, record my findings, and ask several of my peers to repeat the experiment themselves to see if they get the same results. That's how science works.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:24 PM
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"Observable reality?" How many pregnant women have you known? Maybe a dozen? That sample size is far too small for you to state anything with absolute certainty. These studies had THOUSANDS of women. Go talk to a few thousand women and get back to me.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:10 PM
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You've grossly misstated my claims. The fact is, 1 in 7 pregnancies will experience complications. That is not up for debate, that is fact. You value your poor delicate little feelings over the health of women, so clearly you're weak. You are a pathetic wreaking if you can't handle hurt feelings.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:02 PM
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I guess you deny evolution, germ theory, atomic theory, astrophysics, and the age of the universe. Because hell, if Pecanpig has never seen these things, they must not exist, right? Studies be damned. And if that's the case, we have nothing more to say to each other.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:58 PM
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So you think your narrow experience of the world encompasses every single human being who has ever lived? You think, as a man, you can tell women how easy pregnancy is? You're either a troll or a child. No adult who has experienced life could be as stupid as you.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:52 PM
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Don't bother, I just listened to him spout bullshit claims that 99.99% of all pregnancies are easy and painless, and complications are one in a million, therefore a man should be able to force a woman to carry a baby if he wants. I'm pretty sure he's a troll. If not, he's just a fucking idiot who thinks he knows far more than he does.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:50 PM
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When you show me a nationwide study showing that the overwhelming majority of women never experience complications, pain, or trauma from pregnancy, you'll win. You won't find one, however. I've cited dozens of sources, and all you've done is pull stories out of your ass. You know nothing. Then again, you're probably just a troll.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:44 PM
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Godwins law never fails.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:56 AM
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Careful. Conversations there often drift from "I'm so happy with my decision to never have children," to "Anyone who has a kid is an idiot and I want to slap every child I see."
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:55 AM
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I wish your girlfriend had vomited all over that lady.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:48 AM
1

A woman in her late forties would have been born in the sixties, so not a boomer.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:46 AM
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Your entire post: "My personal anecdotes represent the entirety of the human experience. Your facts and statistics do not fit in with my preconceived notions of reality, therefore I will pretend they don't exist." Grow up child, the world doesn't run the way you think it does.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:20 AM
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Thank you. /r/mensrights needs more lighthearted and positive content.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 12:20 AM
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All insurance must will be required to cover abortions (no opt-out) Noooooope. Not true: "What resulted was essentially a compromise. When the exchanges begin operating in 2014, some states will ban all abortion coverage entirely for any plan selling on that state’s exchange. Doing so is allowed by a state "opt-out" clause that is part of the health care law. Beyond that, every state must offer at least one plan on its exchange that doesn't cover abortion. In addition, no private insurer will be…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 11:53 PM
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Very strange indeed.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 11:46 PM
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Contrary to popular belief pregnancy isn't to complicated You're so full of shit your eyes are brown. There are 6 million pregnancies every year in the United States. Of that number, 875,000 pregnant women will experience one or more pregnancy-related complications. That's nearly a 1 in 7 chance. my family for example seems to have a thing for super healthy pregnancy's Translation: "My personal anecdotes represent the entirety of the human experience." Whoop-de-fucking do for your family. no hea…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 11:07 PM
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So its not disgusting when a woman does it? No, not really, because it's her own decision. I don't think a man forcing a woman to get an abortion is disgusting because of anything to do with the fetus, but because it's forcing someone to do something with their bodies that they don't want. I'd feel the same if someone tied you down and took one of your kidneys. Non-consensual surgery is no bueno. And wouldn't a woman forcing a man into child support be the same as "control what another human bei…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 09:49 PM
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Yeah, no, pregnancy and delivery is not, nor has it ever been, required to be covered by insurance. Hell, as of 2010 many insurance plans had no pregnancy coverage at all. Obamacare hasn't changed much there; some preventative services must be covered but that's about it. In 2014 you can't be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition, including pregnancy, so there's that too. Were you talking about the requirement that hospitals can't refuse emergency care? That has nothing to do with insuran…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 09:43 PM
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Because in one example, you have hurt feelings. Boo hoo, hurt feelings. I don't give a shit about your feelings. I say the same thing to women: I don't give a shit if not receiving child support payments will make you feel bad, if he doesn't want a kid he doesn't have to pay for one. In the other example, you have forced someone to become an incubator against their will, to endure a grueling and often complication-laden process for nine months; to have constant nausea, to be in pain, to become d…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 09:21 PM
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General statement. Since you personally didn't give up your paternal rights before your daughter was born, it doesn't apply to your situation.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 08:07 PM
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No. That's just not safe. I know trust is important in a relationship and all, but why would you trust your future to the whims of someone else? What's stopping a man or woman from lying about whether they're taking their pills? What if they simply forget to take their pill for a day or two? If you are the one taking pills, you know for sure that you're safe. If someone else is taking the pills, you can only hope that they remember to take them correctly. If both partners are on BC, both partner…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 08:06 PM
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Abortion is not about killing, it's about a mother's right to her own body. A dead fetus is merely a byproduct. If a mother could transplant the fetus into an artificial womb and not have to deal with pregnancy or motherhood, I guarantee you the abortion rate would plummet to near zero. But until then, my right to not house a parasite inside me for nine months trumps your desire for a baby. It's not fair, but it's how nature works. Man wants baby, woman wants baby: Happy family! Man doesn't want…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 08:00 PM
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Simple: you only allow someone to opt-out before the child is born. If you accept responsibility once the baby is born, that responsibility will be on you forever. If you give it up before the baby is born, it's pretty damn clear you don't want to be a parent.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:50 PM
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Not at all. There should be a significant push for both partners to be on birth control. That would not only mean double profits, but there would be less worry about birth control failing. One method may fail, but the chances of two methods failing at the same time are astronomical. And if one person forgot their pill for that day, you're fine as long as the other remembered their pill.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:48 PM
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I wasn't necessarily talking about while the child is in utero, I was more referring to after the child was born, namely because my dad fucked up my life and the lives of my siblings with his drug use. But I see where you're coming from.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:44 PM
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Women themselves don't support paternal surrender by a wide majority A large percentage of men don't support it either. That's why you lobby for change. What you are suggesting is insane. Plenty of men didn't want women to vote in the early 1900s, and had tons of reasons why they shouldn't. Suffragists didn't throw their hands in the air and say, "Oh, I'll never get men to support my right to vote! So instead of fighting for my rights, I'll just fight to take away his!"
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:42 PM
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A fetus is always a clump of cells, and it doesn't matter who wants out. A fetus is not a person. The only reason people are against allowing a man to drag a woman kicking and screaming to the abortion clinic is because it violates her bodily rights; it has nothing to do with the fetus. You can't force someone to have a surgery they don't want. A better solution is to allow the man to opt out of fatherhood while she is still able to get an abortion, and whatever the woman does after that is enti…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:34 PM
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This whole entire thread has been about hypotheticals. Where have you been? Here and now, Safe Haven laws are an indication of rank hypocrisy and the denial of men's reproductive rights. Yes, but that doesn't mean we should get rid of those laws. We should simply expand men's reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:27 PM
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Your ex still has paternal rights though. Your daughter came to know her as her mother. Your situation is entirely different. This thread is only about a man having the opportunity to sign away is rights before the child is even born, and during the time a mother can legally get an abortion. An anonymous egg or sperm donor can't try to find out where their biological offspring are and try to be a part of that child's life, they would almost certainly get slapped with a restraining order. It woul…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:26 PM
1

So mentally disabled humans are not people? An elderly man with severe Alzheimer's is not a person?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:21 PM
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No. If the mother does not want to pay child support, if she wants to sign away her rights to the child, she should not be involved in the child's life. Same goes for men. No one should get the benefits of being a parent if they don't want to shoulder the responsibility that comes with it.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:18 PM
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I think we're getting words mixed up. You have been saying parental surrender, which means either parent can give up their rights. I've been saying paternal (as opposed to maternal) surrender. As in the father signs away his rights. PATERNAL surrender has everything to do with child support. A woman who chose to bring a child to term implicitly consented to her parental responsibility. I disagree. Plenty of women believe that abortion is murder but still cannot care for a child. Giving up the ch…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:13 PM
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How is a baby not a person? It has a developed brain. It has a pain and fear response. It has a heart that can beat on its own without being connected to the mother's body 24/7. If you can't see the difference between a newborn baby and an embryo, there's no point in having this conversation.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:02 PM
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Child support laws also have nothing to do with parental surrender Bullshit they don't. Paternal surrender has everything to do with child support. Namely, the chance to opt out of it. But parental surrender has everything to do with safe haven laws. HOW??? There would be absolutely nothing stopping a man from giving up his rights when she's 12 weeks pregnant, and then she can just go leave the baby at a fire station. Why do you think the two are mutually exclusive?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:50 PM
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So let me get this straight. Man gets woman pregnant. Man signs away his rights. He's off scott-free (as he should be, it's his choice). Mom is morally opposed to abortion, but would like to give the baby up for adoption. But you now refuse to allow the mother to give up the child? She is now forced to care for a child she can't possibly support? Why exactly do you think safe haven laws are directly tied to child support? What does one have to do with the other?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:42 PM
3

Well, I disagree with your opinion, but at least you're consistent. Upvote.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:31 PM
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You do realize that safe haven laws apply to men too, right? Let's say mom dies in childbirth. Dad can't handle the baby. He is entirely within his rights to drop it off at a fire station. You're acting like legal paternal surrender is directly tied to safe haven laws. You know, it is possible to allow a man to sign away his rights and allow a mother to drop off her baby at a police station. Safe haven laws have absolutely nothing to do with child support, I don't know how the hell you made that…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:27 PM
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Well, seeing as a 12 week old fetus is not a person, it's not murder.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:25 PM
2

the average person who calls themselves a feminist is in fact NOT a feminist. While true, I wouldn't go around telling people that. Most people don't like to be told what groups they do or do not belong to.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:20 PM
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You have no idea what pregnancy involves. What are you, 14? Fuck you. I can just punch her in the uterus, that's nature, tough shit, blame evolution. BUT OH WAIT! apparently THIS is illegal Yes, because it's assault. It's not illegal because of the baby (depending on how far along it is), it's illegal because you punched someone in the stomach. And what the fuck would punching someone in the stomach have to do with evolution? Humans didn't evolve for you to punch a woman in the stomach, but we d…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:19 PM
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How will that stop mothers from giving their children up for adoption? If anything, it will become more common. Are you saying that fathers should be able to give up their rights and safe haven laws should be discontinued? That doesn't make any sense.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:11 PM
2

I never said forget about lps, I just said that male birth control should be the biggest priority when it comes to reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:08 PM
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nope. i'm pro choice, only in cases of severe danger to the mother's health or rape That means you're pro-life. Only the most extreme pro-lifers do not allow for any exceptions. If those are the only situations where you find abortion acceptable, you are not pro-choice.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:05 PM
2

Oh, I agree. Most feminists are actually egalitarians. They were just brought up to believe feminism = absolute equality.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:56 PM
1

Unless the mother's decision turns out, in objectively observable ways, to condemn the child to poverty and instability. Then the state should step in and arrange an adoption. Yes, that's why we have CPS and DCFS. However poverty alone does not mean a mother is an incapable parent. I grew up in a poor household, but I had a wonderful mother. Yeah, we didn't have fancy toys or a big house, but we always had food in our bellies and a warm bed to sleep in. Poverty is far from the worse thing in the…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:56 PM
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I am not suggesting doing anything to the woman, just the unborn baby. I don't think you know how abortion or pregnancy works. if the woman wants the baby but the man doesn't, and she aborts, then she has just murdered a mans baby Tough shit, that's nature. Blame evolution. If the man wants the baby but the woman doesn't, she gets stretch marks. Nope. Pregnancy is extremely taxing on the woman, and giving birth carries a not-insignificant risk of death. I'm not risking my life for a child I don'…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:52 PM
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I disagree with you, but at least you're consistent. The only people who should be against legal paternal surrender should also be pro-life.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:49 PM
10

Are you also pro-life? Because your argument only makes sense if you believe abortion should be illegal.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:47 PM
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Would you be in favor of a woman giving birth to a child then disavowing him or her, turning the child over to the father and walking away? Why would only men have this right? Actually, yes. I support safe haven laws and I'm sure many fathers would love custody of their children with no involvement with the mother.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:46 PM
1

Legal paternal surrender wouldn't be as much of an issue if a male birth control pill were available. I think that should be an even bigger goal than financial abortions.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:44 PM
5

Basically, "If you didn't want to pay child support you shouldn't have had sex." That same argument is used by pro-lifers against abortion.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:43 PM
3

Translation: Sex is only for the purpose of procreation between a husband and wife. Yeah, that's a load of bullshit.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:42 PM
2

Could child support be reformed into something like WIC? With WIC, you can only spend that money on approved items. If child support were like that, the money could only be spent at places like schools, grocery stores, or children's clothing stores.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:41 PM
3

Certainly.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:39 PM
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Then don't have the child. Get an abortion, or give it up for adoption. Women still have choices.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:39 PM
4

Rather than 1 year of support, I think half of the delivery costs sounds better. He helped create that fetus, he should be responsible for half the costs associated with either terminating it or bringing it into the world. Beyond that it's entirely the mother's choice.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:38 PM
2

Report her to ORS. Over and over and over again. Eventually they will be forced to review her case and will either garnish her wages or throw her in jail for criminal nonpayment.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:32 PM
6

The option should only be available to him during the same period of time a woman can get an abortion. If you allow a father to opt-out at any time during the pregnancy, you're going to have a fuck-ton of pro-life fathers making false promises to women until they are no longer able to legally get an abortion, and then signing away their rights with a laugh and a wave. We'll have a shitload of children born to mothers who never would have given birth if they knew there would be no support from th…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:31 PM
3

The only reason safe haven laws exist is to prevent infanticide. Allowing mothers to give up their children without informing the father is far preferable to allowing them to fuck him over financially for 18 years.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:28 PM
4

Are you advocating that men get all the benefits of being a parent with none of the responsibility? What are you, some kind of inverse feminist?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:25 PM
11

Absolutely. It would be an incredibly scumbag move for a father to sign away his rights but still try to have a relationship with his child. He'd get all of the benefits with none of the responsibility.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:24 PM
4

The opt-out period would only be during the same time-frame that a woman can get an abortion. There is no opting out for a kid who is already born.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:23 PM
5

Mandated coverage inevitable increases the price of care. Hell no it doesn't. Yeah, you're spending money on cheap-as-hell birth control, but you are saving billions from having fewer deliveries and complications. $9 generic pill versus $15,000 delivery charge: it's not fucking rocket science. Not to mention the billions saved from fewer people on welfare and food stamps. Insurance companies actually lobbied for the birth control mandate because it would save them fuck-tons of money. Free (taxpa…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:20 PM
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Taxes would have to be increased to pay for all of the taxpayer funded abortions Since when are abortions taxpayer-funded? All men everywhere would essentially be paying for decisions that weren't theirs to make and children who aren't theirs. Women will be footing this bill as well. We generally do work and pay taxes.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:13 PM
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Bullshit. Government is in the pocket of pharmaceutical companies far more than feminist organizations. It's simply more profitable. A male birth control pill would mean billions of dollars in profit. Pharmaceutical companies are not going to turn that shit down no matter how hard feminists may whine. If the federal government were truly interested in making men 100% unable to control whether they have children, they would make vasectomies illegal.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:06 PM
2

Religious conservatives would be extremely opposed to allowing legal paternal surrender.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:00 PM
3

Your average run of the mill feminists do usually support equality. It's the major feminist organizations and feminist leaders who do not.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:58 PM
3

Men should not be able to physically abort a child. That is disgusting. They should be able to sign away their rights and be free of their financial obligation, but to control what another human being does with their own body is grossly unethical.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:56 PM
2

Fuck no. You can't force a woman to risk her life to deliver a baby she doesn't want. Likewise, you cannot force a woman to undergo an abortion she doesn't want. Bodily autonomy trumps all. Give men the right to terminate their parental rights. The choice of what to do with the child beyond that is entirely the mother's. It's as simple as that.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:54 PM
5

Sometimes /r/mensrights is of the opinion that men never ever want anything to do with their offspring.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:52 PM
3

For example, one bad decision a mother can make is to take drugs. This is perfectly applicable to fathers as well. Fathers are just as capable as mothers of fucking up their children's lives. Don't act like any bad choices made by a parent are automatically upon the mother. When their mothers make bad decisions, the children will suffer. When fathers make bad decisions, the children suffer. Shitty parenting is not exclusive to one gender. Another bad decision a mother can make is to deliver a ba…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:49 PM
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He should be granted termination of paternal rights if he doesn't want the child, within the same time period that a woman can get an abortion. However, a fair compromise is that, if he signs away his rights, he should cover half of the abortion costs, or half the delivery costs. Beyond that, he'd have nothing to do with mother or child ever again. Of course, if male birth control was available this would hardly ever be a problem.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:45 PM
0

I wasn't aware that you know this woman personally and are also an expert in human psychology. Carry on.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 09:33 PM
0

How in the fuck is a depressed person suddenly equivalent to a child that needs to be taken care of? They take their meds, everything is fine. Or are you saying the 5-10% of men in the US with depression are children?
/r/MensRights31/10/12 09:29 PM
1

He can expect a tortured life with an abusive partner or 99% chance of not getting custody and steep child support payments that aren't even required to be spent on the children You say that like those are the only two possible outcomes. If it could be solved with a little medication, what's the point of all that other garbage? He can't give up responsibility to the baby. He's made it pretty clear in his other posts that he very much wants to be a part of the child's life.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 09:27 PM
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While I'm grateful every day that I have him, "a bit snappy" is hardly grounds for divorce. I'd be a fucking bitch if I left him for something as stupid as that, why would it be different for him? It's that kind of bullshit attitude that has made divorce rates so high. "Oh my god, she raised her voice slightly and is a little bit annoyed, time to pack my bags and get the fuck out!"
/r/MensRights31/10/12 09:21 PM
0

So my husband never should have had sex with me because I was abused? He should have just left me immediately when I became depressed and got a bit snappy toward him? He shouldn't have encouraged me to go to the doctor and get medication that restored me to my former self? Because OP could certainly give that a shot before he resigns himself to defeat.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 09:14 PM
1

You know, maybe he could take her to the doctor to find out if she's clinically depressed. Speaking from experience, depression can radically change who you are. Medication could restore her to sanity. It's certainly better than manipulating someone who could possibly have a mental disorder into getting an abortion and then abandoning them. That's totally not a recipe for suicide.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 09:10 PM
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An abused person may not automatically deserve love, but they don't automatically not deserve it either. I was horrifically abused as a child and my marriage is perfectly happy and healthy.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 09:01 PM
1

You clearly don't know how to read. He sad and watched her piss on the stick and saw the positive result. He went with her to the doctor's office and the pregnancy confirmed. Plan B is not an abortion pill.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:33 PM
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Because abused people totally don't deserve love. /s
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:27 PM
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What if she just has depression due to the pregnancy hormones? That's very common, and proper medication could make her normal again.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:26 PM
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THAT IS FUCKING DISGUSTING. There is a very good chance she is clinically depressed. The fact that her personality changed rather suddenly after she became pregnant is pretty consistent with this. Pregnancy fucks up your hormones, and depression is common. Speaking from experience, depression completely changes who you are. She may very well settle down and become rational again if she gets on antidepressants. EDIT: It's not that I'm against the idea of an abortion, but I am against manipulating…
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:23 PM
1

You should talk to her and let her know that her behavior is not acceptable. More importantly, you should encourage her to see a doctor, because she very well may be depressed. Speaking from first-hand experience, depression can completely change you and cause you to lash out. She may again become the girl you once knew and loved if she gets on antidepressants.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:19 PM
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There's a lot of good advice in here, but you also need to take it with the tiniest grain of salt. A lot of guys in here have gotten royally fucked over and do not trust women. Which is okay. However, the most important thing for you to remember is that she is pregnant. She's gonna be irrational. However, she is going very far overboard, so pregnancy can be used to excuse all of her behavior. You should talk to her and let her know that her behavior is not acceptable. Kindly encourage her to see…
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:19 PM
2

What, like caffeine? Well, she's pregnant so she shouldn't be drinking caffeine anyway. So he gave up weed. Big deal. That's hardly his biggest concern right now.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:12 PM
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What the fuck? That is disgusting.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:10 PM
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More like egalitarian. You can be an egalitarian feminist (equal rights for all with most attention on womens issues), an egalitarian MRA (equal rights for all with most attention on mens issues), or just egalitarian (equal rights for all with no particular focus one way or another). I don't like the idea of saying if you believe in equal rights you're automatically an MRA, because feminists often try to say the same thing about feminism. People don't like being told what groups they belong to.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 03:40 PM
1

Since when are modern comforts and material possessions among the bare essentials for survival? Or are you not familiar with the difference between wants and needs? You need healthcare, you don't need a sports-car.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 01:12 AM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 10:58 PM
2

You specifically said: "Plenty of people that cannot support a child still have them" I did not say this, that was GeckoRocket.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 08:36 PM
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Moral of the story: DO NOT FUCK AROUND WITH ANTIDEPRESSANTS. You take exactly the amount your doctor tells you to take, and you never quit cold turkey. You must wean off of them. Her doctor is a fucking moron for telling her it's okay to just stop taking them. Who you are, your morality, and your rationality is based entirely on a delicate balance of chemicals and hormones in your brain. One little imbalance can completely change you. She's obviously not completely free of responsibility, becaus…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 08:33 PM
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The situation is unique because she quit antidepressants cold turkey. You never fuck around with that shit. While it was a horrible judgement call on her part to quit her meds without weaning off of them, she has zero control over the crazy shit her brain chemistry was doing. People kill themselves because of it, or in this case, her own children. She's not completely devoid of responsibility, but this wasn't some calculated slaughter either. I agree with her plea. Manslaughter, not murder, and …
/r/MensRights30/10/12 08:26 PM
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It amounts to other people deciding what property/wealth you may keep Not really. There is a distinction between public and private property. Any property you have purchased is your own. Democratic socialism isn't like communism where all material objects are shared by the community. This how every civilized society has worked. You must pay your taxes, but you don't really have a say in where it goes beyond your vote. You also elect representatives. The US is already somewhat of a social democra…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 08:04 PM
1

There was nothing stopping the mother from getting an abortion or giving the child up for adoption.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:47 PM
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Child support should not exist. I don't know about that. I think financial abortion should be in play so that fathers never have to pay for children they didn't want. That takes care of the vast majority of child support right there. What about fathers who wanted their children and actively participated in raising them? He shouldn't be off the hook for children that know and love him just because him and mommy split up. That's awful. The solution: joint custody by default, in which case child su…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:44 PM
1

No, but if she chose not to take the morning after pill, why should he be responsible for her "unpleasant experience" when she gets an abortion? I agree with splitting the costs of the procedure itself, but compensation for time and "unpleasantness" is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:32 PM
1

If the woman is religious and won't have an abortion, then she is put into the situation of having a baby and preparing to raise it before she was ready for it If her religion is preventing her from getting an abortion, why the fuck was she having sex in the first place? Why is one sin okay but not another?
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:29 PM
1

I've had an abortion. It was uncomfortable, but not horrific. What is stopping a woman from getting intentionally pregnant so she can get a payout?
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:28 PM
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I don't see how that makes a difference. She legally has complete control of her own future. As it stands men legally do not have that control. Biology has nothing to do with legal options.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:26 PM
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No shit! In Christianity all sins are the same in the eyes of their god anyway, so eternally speaking, how is an abortion worse than premarital sex?
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:24 PM
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When an accidental pregnancy occurs, it is the fault of both the man and the woman, and both should share in the cost of dealing with the problem. So if a condom breaks or the woman gets breakthrough ovulation despite being on BC, it's somehow their fault? Bullshit. Not to mention any woman could claim that the pregnancy was an accident to get support even if she secretly stopped taking her pills. You couldn't possibly prove whether a pregnancy was accidental. If the woman chooses abortion, the …
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:22 PM
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Ignore Lyonette, she's a troll here. After she got banned she made a new account. Anyway, this isn't really a question we can answer here. It depends so much on the state you live in, and the bias of the judge. Your best option is to consult with an attorney. A lot of them offer free 1-hour consultations, in which you can learn quite a bit.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:13 PM
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But then the article says how women universally have it worse. Always.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:06 PM
1

So, basically, whoever is the primary breadwinner is the one who gets fucked over in the divorce. Solution? Prenup, and both partners need to have jobs.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:03 PM
4

I dislike communism. I like democratic socialism. There is a fairly wide gap between the two.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 06:35 PM
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Anti-feminist? Maybe. Most of us just dislike what a lot of major feminist organizations do, but we don't have a particular problem with run of the mill feminists who believe in equality for everyone. Misogynists? I can count on one hand the number of genuine misogynists I've seen here. They're a rarity.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 06:33 PM
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Implying that only women play a part in supporting children? Situations also change. Parents can be financially stable when their child is born, but shit can always happen between birth and when the child turns 18.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 06:19 PM
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Sperm banks have complete protection. I think what Cyhawk was saying is that he should have gone through a bank and jumped through the necessary hoops. A donor who went through the appropriate steps can never be pursued for child support.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 06:18 PM
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She had the child ten years ago. She and her partner were likely able to handle the expense at the time. Situations can most certainly change, and it's idiotic to expect that anyone wanting a child should go, "Hey, there's a remote possibility I could lose my job/get divorced/get sick 15 years from now, and then money will be tight. Therefore I shouldn't have children." Don't be judgmental. I know it's easier to imagine that anyone needing assistance is just a welfare queen who doesn't want to t…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 06:16 PM
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"Traditional" means what was the norm in the 20s, 30s, and 40s. Basically any job you would virtually never see a woman working in 1937 is a non-traditional job. It pretty much excludes everything but teachers, nurses, and artsy jobs. The opposite for men was true (in terms of traditional jobs); most men had a fair number of career options available to them, but god help you if you wanted to be a nurse or a dancer.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 06:08 PM
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I dunno, the person he responded to said Rewarding failure and punishing success. I don't see how that could be relevant to #1. Nothing about being a woman or minority implies failure, so the logical conclusion was that he was talking about #2.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 06:02 PM
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Non Daily Mail article. Keep in mind it is not the girl's mother that is seeking support from him, it's the state. The lesbian is simply asking for support from the state, and the state is in turn extorting money from the donor.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 06:42 PM
1

Get a lawyer. Do not fucking talk to the police without your lawyer present. If they start asking you questions again, say "I am invoking my right to remain silent. I will not answer your questions without my attorney present." Just keep repeating that any time they talk to you, until your lawyer gets there.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 06:38 PM
0

Like this? NSFW
/r/MensRights25/10/12 05:59 PM
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Nah, but the dismissive nature still remains(i.e. white knight, feminist, etc.) And mangina, don't forget mangina. God, I hate that word.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 05:49 PM
5

Wait, what? People make jokes about women all the time.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 05:45 PM
2

Oh, I missed that part. If it's equal custody I completely understand a low or nonexistent child support payment. This makes his new payment even more mind boggling, since he has shared custody.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 03:08 AM
1

Unless you also have a current wife and other children, it's not the same. In what world does a male in the US/UK/Australia/Canada have ANY chance in court? My father did pretty well, and he's a fucking drug addict.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 03:02 AM
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I most often hear this argument perpetuated by circumcised men. The argument isn't to protect the child from feeling different (and therefore ashamed), it's to protect the father from seeing his intact son and wondering if he's missing out on something. The biggest advocates of circumcision are circumcised men. They so often don't want to accept that it's mutilation, because then they're afraid that it will mean there's something wrong with their own penises. To set the record straight - Circumc…
/r/MensRights24/10/12 09:01 PM
3

You may be confusing the feminist movement with regular feminists. Most every day people who call themselves feminists only do so because they've been taught that feminism = equality. They just don't know (or don't bother to learn) about the hateful things some feminist leaders and organizations have done. But they really do want equality. Hell, that's why I used to call myself a feminist, but when I started doing my research I changed to an egalitarian/MRA.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 08:48 PM
4

I lost it at rape privileges.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 08:46 PM
2

Crazies in every movement. Traditionalists try to make MRM their own personal mouthpiece of hate, just like the radfems do with feminism. The only difference is that the radfems actually have some sway within their own movement, whereas misogynists and traditionalists tend to just get ignored over here.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 08:43 PM
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That's hardly "winning the battle." There's more than just prostate cancer. Women have extremely active groups for breast cancer, cervical cancer, ovarian cancer, vaginal/vulvar cancer, and endometrial cancer (as they should, of course). Prostate cancer is starting to get more attention, but what about testicular cancer or penile cancer? Where are the blue-ribbon campaigns, the marathons, the national fundraisers? Granted, women have more stuff in their bodies that can go wrong, but that doesn't…
/r/MensRights24/10/12 08:37 PM
2

It seems to me that most people see this community as a bunch of far right, back-asswards nutjobs who want to use women and minorities as footstools I never understood that, especially the far right bit. Since when is fighting for equal rights not an incredibly progressive thing? There are tons of liberals (myself included) who align themselves with this group because it is a step toward universal equality (in terms of rights, at least).
/r/MensRights24/10/12 08:33 PM
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Or he can, you know, hire a lawyer and his current wife can get a job to help make ends meet in the meantime. I'm so sick of people in /r/mensrights telling guys to immediately leave the country without looking into other possibilities first. Worst case scenario, the lawyer doesn't help. Nothing else changes. Maybe you owe the lawyer some money? Who cares, you're going to leave the country anyway. I'm just not a fan of telling someone to upheave their entire life and leave everything they know a…
/r/MensRights24/10/12 08:29 PM
2

That's actually a really good idea.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 07:58 PM
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That's a really good way to put it. Most people view a prenup as "This stuff is mine and I don't want you to touch it because fuck you." I like the idea of a prenup being defined as "Money will play no part in the quality of our marriage."
/r/MensRights24/10/12 07:53 PM
3

As far as Common Law Marriage, I believe getting the state involved in marriage was one of the worst things we could have done. Agreed. If marriage was strictly a religious thing and the state had an entirely separate union, we wouldn't have fundies stomping their feet over whether gay people get to be together. Probably.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 07:43 PM
2

That's a pretty good compromise. The "institute of marriage" is garbage anyway. You don't need a piece of paper from the state to validate your love. Getting married doesn't magically make a relationship better. I didn't notice any difference at all between living together and being married. If he doesn't trust me not to fleece him for his money then he shouldn't be marrying me At first glance, I have to say I agree. My relationship is like yours, only reversed: I make about twice what my husban…
/r/MensRights24/10/12 07:38 PM
5

Most people get paid twice per month.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 07:24 PM
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Agreed. What made his initial payments so low? That doesn't help children. I've always been of the opinion that $300-$500/mo is a reasonable amount; not impossible to pay while still running your own household, enough to help out your kid, but not so much that mom can take it and spent it on bullshit without raising suspicion.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 07:23 PM
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But what about his current wife and other children? He'd be uprooting his children and making his wife an accessory to a crime.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 07:20 PM
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Accusers and defendants of rape shouldn't be the only ones kept anonymous until a verdict is read (or hell, at the very least until charges are filed), but for all crimes. Someone brought in for suspicion of murder or assault will also have a horrible stigma brought against them, even if charges are dropped or they are found not guilty. No more "trial by media" bullshit.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 06:59 PM
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Go back to SRS, bait troll.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 07:15 PM
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Yes, because woman are the only ones who raise kids poorly. And single parents are never able to raise kids well. /s
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:04 AM
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Poor families are more likely to have children who will also grow up to live in poverty. When your entire family is poor, you can't exactly move back in with mom & dad.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:02 AM
6

This is why the electoral college is the biggest affront to our election process.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 02:58 AM
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Best case scenario, it's ignorance. Worst case scenario, they know it's not true but it gets them votes. Not man hating, per se. Still not good though.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 02:51 AM
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Pandering at its best! Its what Obama does politicians do.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 02:49 AM
1

You are a terrible troll. Try harder.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 04:09 AM
3

I'm sure you were trying to be sarcastic, but there's no need to call a rape victim a cunt just for the sake of a joke.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:48 AM
2

But that doesn't mean women should have their choices taken away, it means men should push for more rights.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:39 AM
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He said intra-uterine sonograms. That's where you stick a thick plastic wand up a woman's vagina to do the ultrasound, instead of doing it through the belly. Intra-uterine ultrasounds are most certainly not required for abortions, but a couple of states were trying to make them mandatory in the hopes that women wouldn't want to be so intimately violated and not get abortions.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:38 AM
1

Which is why I find it ironic that traditionalists try to take root in the men's rights movement. Feminism: No gender roles for women, traditional gender roles for men! Traditionalism: Traditional gender roles for everyone or else! Egalitarianism: No gender roles for anyone!
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:34 AM
1

Battery acid. It's pretty common.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:32 AM
0

If birth control pills were available for men, I believe the conservatives would be just as against them. Absolutely. It's not about "not wanting to pay for birth control," it's about wanting to punish people for having sex.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:31 AM
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Because traditional gender roles still exist when it's convenient.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:27 AM
4

This helps to show that men's rights is NOT a rape apologist movement, as many try to depict us.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 01:55 AM
2

Just to let you know, trolls may end up coming here. /r/mensrights is a hotspot for activity to try and make us seem like monsters, especially from /r/shitredditsays. Know that anyone being cruel is just trying to take advantage of your hardship to make us look bad, and ignore them. If you like, feel free to make a thread over at /r/ladyMRAs where I'm a moderator. You're more than welcome there as well as here. There is no need to blame all men for the actions of a few. What you need more than a…
/r/MensRights22/10/12 01:39 AM
2

Yup. I got one from /u/Gareth312, since banned. /u/AnneArchist is another one.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 06:16 PM
1

Looks like it was just a social experiment. Nothing to see here, move along.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 08:34 PM
0

Who said they couldn't? There was nothing exclusionary about her statement. One-sided, yes, but not exclusionary.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 05:29 AM
3

How? Women do tend to go after jobs that offer flexibility. She never said that employers must do that, or that it's discrimination if they don't. She just said it might be a good idea.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 02:23 AM
1

I agree. I don't feel we need to worry about a solution at all; women will do what they want of their own accord and societal expectations will slowly change as a result. We don't need any action beyond some basic encouragement, time will take care of the rest.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 02:21 AM
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Of course it is. If a man said it he'd be called sexist.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 08:11 PM
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I think Hillary is starting to realize that pandering to Feminist organizations isn't going to get this country anywhere. I'll quote a discussion I was having with someone yesterday in /r/bestof regarding the wage gap due to choices women make, and unequal distribution of women in the workplace: If a woman doesn't feel like stepping beyond archaic gender roles that's her choice. I'm a woman in IT, I know what it's like to be told that women can't do this or that (although I have faced very littl…
/r/MensRights18/10/12 07:32 PM
2

I freaked out for a minute, then I checked and saw that I never enabled that function. Reeeally don't need my family seeing my husband's junk or my naughty photos.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 07:05 PM
1

Because it would be career suicide. A good chunk of voters are fucking stupid (both men and women), and if a candidate said the wage gap is a myth, a lot of folks would just hear "women don't get paid as much because they aren't worth it!!!!!!" And then a reasonable candidate who deals in reality has zero chance of getting elected.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 12:08 AM
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This is not relevant to men's rights.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 12:02 AM
1

I know, I was just adding to what you said. Some people (not you) think Zimmerman was completely justified, some feel he went way too far. I'm interested to see what happens, especially in gun-happy Florida.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 05:49 PM
1

And the state prosecutors felt he used excessive force. We'll see what happens in the trial.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 05:24 PM
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In a lot of (most?) states, you won't be able to use that as a defense when you shoot someone in the face just because they punched you. There are laws regarding excessive force for a reason. A kick to the groin or jab at the eyes is very different from a gunshot wound in the head.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 04:18 PM
-1

If someone is hitting you, generally the appropriate reaction is to hit back. If they're much bigger or stronger than you, then you can escalate.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 03:57 PM
1

Absolutely not. Proper gun safety involves never pointing your gun at something you aren't prepared to kill. Someone hitting you generally does not merit deadly force, therefore it does not merit brandishing a deadly weapon.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 06:58 AM
3

Broken families can very much come from parents who are unprepared or unable to raise a child properly. You can have both parents raising you and still have a fucked up childhood due to their incompetence. Speaking from experience.
/r/MensRights13/10/12 05:36 AM
3

That's the point. No abortions means even more men forced into fatherhood, broken families, and unstable childhoods.
/r/MensRights13/10/12 04:59 AM
2

Well it would be seen as less selfish just because a woman is doing it... No, it's less selfish because you're willing to risk your own life, rather than sacrificing others around you to save your own skin. Sex is irrelevant here. the pregnant woman is actively seeking to deny his right to not be a parent. She's not an innocent bystander he's hurting. She's the person denying him his rights Completely wrong. It's not the pregnant woman denying him his rights, it's the law. The law does not allow…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 09:51 PM
1

I never said it would be viewed as more moral, I said it would be viewed as less selfish. But I agree that abortion isn't just a woman's rights issue, it's a human rights issue.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 09:16 PM
3

Ah, I see what you mean, and I completely agree.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:55 PM
2

Desirable, maybe, but it is not at all achievable. It never has, it never will. By trying to reach an impossible goal they are contributing to the cycle of poverty and ignorance that is already a major problem in the US, while also wasting mountains of taxpayer dollars.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:49 PM
1

That's what I addressed in my last paragraph when I discussed viability. I was talking about a non-viable fetus in the rest of the comment.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:47 PM
2

Hey. Sarstan. ...You look nice today.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:44 PM
2

What I really hate is this movement towards telling men in tech to check their behavior when women are around, to censor themselves. This isn't any different from the old adage that you shouldn't use "colorful language" in "mixed company," and I hate it. Me too. Anyone in the industry knows that, while quiet in public, techies have filthy sailor-mouths when around each other, and it's fucking hilarious. At my last job we'd watch Archer on TV while we worked on our projects, crack dirty jokes and…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:39 PM
2

I've worked in IT for 4 years. In all that time, the only sexism I have ever experienced was from an extremely old and bewildered man who asked me why my company let a woman work there. He wasn't being aggressive, he asked it in a perfectly nice - if not slightly confused - voice. I simply answered with a smile, "Because I'm very good at what I do." I didn't get offended, because I know he grew up in a completely different time. I felt it was better to answer his question kindly and honestly, ra…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:34 PM
10

A childfree activist is someone who never wants children and objects to the social pressure to have kids.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:22 PM
3

Delicious delicious popcorn.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:17 PM
2

It's may be okay legally, but it is still morally reprehensible.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:16 PM
2

True. Let's put it this way, from the pro-life perspective. The coat-hanger means you are trying to take the life of a child while also putting yourself in serious danger. The baseball bat means you are trying to take the life of a child while also putting someone else in serious danger, yet risking no physical harm to yourself. While a pro-lifer may feel that both are selfish, it's clear that the latter example is significantly more selfish. We definitely don't want to be cast in that light. MR…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:15 PM
2

Given your downvotes... I'd say you're in the minority.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:09 PM
1

It's not the secret pictures that's the problem, it's the fact that the pictures are taken with the specific intent of creating masturbation material. I'm okay with random street photography, it's a fascinating art form. However I'm not okay with distributing pictures of unaware men and women so that weirdos on the internet can fap to them.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:09 PM
3

I disapprove of your creepshots activity, however I also disapprove of attempts to blackmail and harass you. I'm glad the admins actually took action. Please respect the privacy of others in the same way you wish your own privacy to be respected.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:05 PM
2

So we're all supposed to go back to getting married at 17 and plopping out ten kids?
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:58 PM
4

I don't like to think of abortion and birth control as women's issues so much as I think of them as heterosexual human's issues. Fuck yes it's a human rights issue. What happens when a woman wants an abortion but can't legally get one? Daddy's on the hook for child support. Two completely unprepared people are thrust into parenthood. The cycle of poverty continues.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:55 PM
1

What? Most Americans support abortion rights, especially women.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:52 PM
2

Yep. I can't help but wonder what standard of evidence they would require. Would you have to file a police report? Would you have to contribute to an investigation? Would you have to pick a guy out of a lineup? I mean, if all I had to do was say I was raped to get an abortion, as long as there were no risk of harming an innocent man, I'd probably do it. Not every woman is so honest however.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:51 PM
0

Because they just don't want anyone to have sex except for procreation. They live in a fantasy land where eradicating pre-marital sex and recreational sex is an achievable goal.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:48 PM
3

Making abortion illegal is extremely dangerous for men as well. There are tons of women out there who agree with their significant others in that they don't want children, and as it stands now a pregnancy will just result in an abortion and both partners will be happy. Making abortion illegal completely eradicates any small hope that MRAs have of making financial abortion a choice for men, because if women no longer get to opt out, why should men? It would lead to a massive increase in child sup…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:44 PM
3

It's an extremely dishonest policy. The only pro-lifers who are actually concerned about the sanctity of life are the ones who don't include rape exceptions. When you start saying that it's okay for women who have been raped to have abortions, it becomes clear that your stance isn't to protect life, it's to punish men and women for having recreational sex. If the sex was involuntary, okay, you can have an abortion; but if the pregnancy was a result of fornication, fuck you, you have to plop out …
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:33 PM
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You can't enforce rarity, but you can try to influence it. The birth control mandate has already caused abortion rates to drop significantly, so it's a step in the right direction. Developing male birth control and providing it at no cost just like it is for women, and abandoning abstinence-only sex education will cause abortions to become extremely rare.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:29 PM
1

I don't agree, once people start to agree that being able to survive without direct maternal nutrition, is a very nice barrier to agree where life begins. Where a human becomes an independent entity. Would that mean it's a person after viability? An 8 month old fetus can survive outside the womb just fine, and a 7 month old fetus sometimes can.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:26 PM
2

Neither can a baby that has gone full term... Yes it can. A newborn doesn't die the instant it leaves it's mother's arms, like a fetus does when removed from the womb. A newborn can be transferred to someone else with no ill effects, but a fetus cannot. A newborn can be nurtured by a man or a woman, but a fetus cannot. Technically the fetus is alive, just like a culture of bacteria on a petri dish is alive. The question is whether it's a person. But I agree that personhood doesn't begin at birth…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:24 PM
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He'll just frame it as reddit users standing up for /r/creepshots and a guy who moderated /r/jailbait and /r/beatingwomen. He will miss the point completely. It's not that we approve of Violentacrez or those subreddits (I certainly don't), it's that we don't approve of publishing personal info about someone you disagree with.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 11:26 PM
2

Only in two thirds of the world. Or does Africa and the middle East proudly open its doors to any girls desiring an education?
/r/MensRights11/10/12 07:17 PM
2

Girls outnumber boys in secondary education. While that's a big deal, it's not as important as primary education. I'm not saying there isn't a bias against boys in much of the world. What I am saying is it's foolish to think that female discrimination isn't much of a problem in some third world nations. It absolutely is.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 07:05 PM
10

This makes me sad... I like Lifehacker. :( But I'm not going to visit any Gawker sites until this gets fixed.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 05:47 AM
17

Look out, we've got a badass over here.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 05:46 AM
2

It's important to note that it is not difficult at all to find someone's real name with a little bit of effort. If your email address is the same as your reddit handle (ie [YourUsername]@mail.com) for example, it's only a few short steps from there to find your Facebook. If you use the same username for all of your accounts, same deal. I would highly recommend that any moderators of this or other men's rights subs and high-profile posters (especially the more controversial or prolific users like…
/r/MensRights11/10/12 12:52 AM
1

It's possible that they might be able to link your reddit account to your real name. However, as long as you don't have your address or place of work online, you should be fine. I would recommend taking where you work off of your Facebook or LinkedIn account for the time being.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 12:37 AM
0

Does anyone have info on what exactly went down? I know the mods were just tolerating him, but since he hadn't broken any rules they let him be, despite being an obvious troll. Did he finally go off the deep end and start advocating murder or something?
/r/MensRights11/10/12 12:35 AM
1

TIL. I thought they were separate people. I'm happy to learn that there is one less nutjob here than I originally thought.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 12:33 AM
1

I highly doubt this infographic is directed to western societies. It's talking about uneducated youth in the entire world. Also, saying that educating girls is smart, is not the same thing as saying educating boys is dumb. Educating boys or girls is not mutually exclusive. I mean, yeah, this chart is just pandering to women to try and get them to buy Intel stuff, but it's not a reason for monstrous outrage.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 12:05 AM
5

Then again, I just googled myself and I'm not particularly worried about what they'll do with my deviantART profile or my abandoned wordpress blog. I think I'll be okay. I'm a mod of one of the smaller men's rights subreddits, but I doubt they're eyeballing those.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 10:03 PM
2

Eep. I use my reddit username for just about everything else online. >_>
/r/MensRights10/10/12 09:37 PM
1

Maybe subconsciously. I know I did, because it's how my mother raised me. Men just paid for their dates. I've since wised up, but it's not that incredible that I trusted my mother's word in my youthful ignorance. She grew up in a different time, and I had no reason to think she was wrong until I got out on my own and experienced the world a little bit.
/r/MensRights09/10/12 10:10 PM
7

Whoever did the inviting should either pay, or make it clear beforehand that they want to go dutch. This is important. A lot of women feel that the man is supposed to pay, because that's how they were raised. These women then might not bring any money on the date, so naturally they'd be pissed when the guy springs it on them that they have to pay for their share after they've already eaten. If, however, you let them know beforehand, most women worth dating will be fine with it. If the woman gets…
/r/MensRights09/10/12 06:10 PM
2

Holy shit, you don't know how to understand context. This whole conversation has been about what would theoretically happen if men did have the option of financial abortion. If men were able to surrender paternity, they would no longer have to pay child support for children they didn't want. I said: Man doesn't want baby, woman wants baby: Man signs away his rights and responsibilities to the child, and if the woman decides to keep the child she will be solely responsible for it. The man can nev…
/r/MensRights09/10/12 03:26 AM
1

Absolutely, but that doesn't mean men can't control themselves.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 07:47 PM
6

Did no one notice the screen name? Why are we feeding the trolls?
/r/MensRights08/10/12 07:03 PM
0

Oh my god, I'm talking about the ideal scenario. Combine my last two posts.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 06:59 PM
2

This can be offset by keeping the name of the accused and accuser anonymous until they are formally charged, which of course couldn't happen unless there's a good amount of evidence.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 05:34 PM
2

I think by default we should believe anyone who said they were raped, but don't take it to trial unless there is enough evidence above her word alone.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 05:09 PM
0

I never said it's a rational fear, but it's a hell of a lot better than having a victim complex.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 06:09 AM
2

I don't know about that. My husband's shit smells bad, but it's not overpowering. My old boss, however, had a shit smell that would linger for hours and would make anyone who entered the bathroom dry heave.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 03:57 AM
1

Oh no, we concern ourselves with that quite a bit. Nothing is worse than trying to hold in a huge fart after a big meal when you're on a date with a really cute guy. So many nights coming home with a bloated painful stomach after a date with my husband. So many refused bathroom trips because I dare not let on that I too defecate. D:
/r/MensRights08/10/12 03:55 AM
-2

But not everyone has the same smell.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 03:22 AM
1

Probably a good idea.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 01:59 AM
0

I don't like to shit around men because I am a straight woman and I don't want possibly attractive men knowing the smells that can come out of my body. Jesus.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 01:35 AM
1

Okay, but it's fucking stupid for OP to assume that she doesn't want to use the bathroom because she's afraid of getting raped by the big bad men.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 01:18 AM
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I wasn't necessarily talking to OP. "You" can be a gender neutral pronoun. OP was making it sound like acting like an asshole will make you irresistible to women (regardless of whether he wants them or not); I explained that it only attracts the wrong kind of women. I like you, typhonblue, but sometimes you need to get off your high horse.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 01:15 AM
1

Now, is this just a see-saw situation, or is it actually possible to make it relatively balanced?
/r/MensRights08/10/12 01:08 AM
2

Hell yeah, she could kick ass.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:56 AM
1

really hire and pay by merit would be the best solution if there is a desire to institute quotas, compensate weaknesses with extraordinary skills. Those who underperform at IQ and aptitude tests will only be hired if they strongly over-perform at physical tests, and are aware that they will not be apt for leadership positions. Women who underperform in brute strength of lifting heavy weights may compensate with extremely high scores in speed, endurance, IQ. I fucking love this idea.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:54 AM
3

Except he was lying.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:47 AM
3

It's ironic that this is being used as an example of false domestic violence accusations, when the post in question is blatantly fake. Let's be better than the feminists, folks. Fact-checking is a virtue.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:45 AM
-2

Maybe she had to take a shit but she didn't want that attractive worker walking by and smelling her handiwork?
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:27 AM
1

It's a way to get her to think logically. "Well if I don't feel like I am going to be hurt in some way, just why DO I feel this way?" Maybe because she doesn't want to take a giant smelly shit around men who she may possibly be attracted to? Maybe she was on her period and she didn't want to leave a bloody tampon in the toilet? Jesus Christ, not all female discomfort is the result of a victim complex.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:24 AM
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I'm pretty sure he advised therapy because you endured an abusive 3 year relationship. Abuse leaves deep scars that can reopen months or even years later, they don't just go away because you stop tolerating bullshit.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:22 AM
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Here's the thing. The only women who are attracted to men who treat them like shit are women with extremely low self-esteem: and the kicker is that they make up a lot of young women. These are precisely the women who are also most likely to turn around and fuck your life up later on. You don't want a spineless and clingy coward for a wife, because the moment she starts having doubts she'll blame all of her personal issues on you. You want to attract the women who have their heads on straight? Do…
/r/MensRights08/10/12 12:19 AM
20

Man raised as a girl after circumcision caused him to lose his penis. Skin bridges. Necrosis of the glans 13 days after circumcision. Mangled penis caused by improper Plastibell circumcision. Excessive skin loss from a migrated Plastibell ring. Miami infant left with scarred and deformed penis after botched circumcision. Adult man has his penis amputated after a failed circumcision. Family received $2.3 million settlement after their son's penis is severed. Complications, varying in severity, oc…
/r/MensRights07/10/12 08:08 PM
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Oh you mean the group who made that conclusion based on an incredibly flawed study? The group who has also advocated making female genital mutilation legal in the US? That American Academy of Pediatrics?
/r/MensRights07/10/12 08:05 PM
1

With the above, that would rarely happen. People wouldn't have to support children they don't want, whether by medical abortion or financial abortion.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 06:32 AM
1

I didn't omit it though. I said "nor will he be liable for child support."
/r/MensRights04/10/12 05:45 AM
1

I can see the possibility that he might have a change of heart later down the road. A woman cannot undo a medical abortion, so why should a man be able to undo a financial abortion? Making the act final and irreversible would mean he would have to put in a lot of thought before going through with it, thus preventing any spur of the moment decisions. It's mostly from personal experience, honestly. My niece's father doesn't want to pay child support or even visit his daughter, but he also doesn't …
/r/MensRights03/10/12 05:44 AM
1

I don't, at least not any active ones.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 05:15 AM
0

Dead clump of cells!
/r/MensRights03/10/12 04:03 AM
1

Feminist organizations have actively fought against joint custody as default.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 12:15 AM
3

Don't forget mayonesa.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:53 PM
2

I avoid feminist posts in 2x like the plague, I cannot have an intelligent conversation there. I'm just subbed there for the hair and makeup advice.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:51 PM
3

I wish I lived in NH just so I could vote for you.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:47 PM
2

Man wants baby, woman wants baby: Happy family! Man doesn't want baby, woman doesn't want baby: Abortion, happy couple! Man doesn't want baby, woman wants baby: Man signs away his rights and responsibilities to the child, and if the woman decides to keep the child she will be solely responsible for it. The man can never claim paternity, and cannot have anything to do with the child once the paperwork is done, nor will he be liable for child support. Man wants baby, woman doesn't want baby: Tough…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:46 PM
1

Voldemort!
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:42 PM
1

Ah, I see what you're saying.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:36 PM
1

My husband loves taking a hot bath and then getting a foot massage.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:22 PM
1

Excellent!
/r/MensRights02/10/12 08:20 PM
1

So? Fewer women have babies, fewer women end up on welfare. It's cheaper for you to contribute a tiny amount of your taxes to have state-provided care cover birth control than it is to pay for single mothers who are on welfare, food stamps, section 8, etc. If you're a fiscal conservative, you should be jumping for joy at that kind of trade-off.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 08:20 PM
1

I work for a company that is comprised almost entirely of women (I'm the sysadmin for a health foods store), so it's unlikely my company requested it. It's a very small business, under 100 employees. I looked it up, and all plans from this insurance provider include men's health in their preventative services.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 08:15 PM
2

The government isn't paying for birth control, so I don't know why you keep bringing that up. No one is the "loser" when it comes to insurance pools. Should cancer patients only be paid for by other cancer patients? Should impotent men only be paid for by other impotent men? Should people injured in accidents only be paid for by other people injured in accidents? This is exactly how insurance works: the burden of the sick is shouldered by those who are healthy, in exchange for peace of mind that…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 01:52 AM
1

That has nothing to do with what I asked. Feminists think men are hardwired to rape, and apparently you think women are hardwired to cheat. How are you better than a feminist?
/r/MensRights02/10/12 12:36 AM
3

You, uh... You weren't driving when you took this photo, were you?
/r/MensRights02/10/12 12:26 AM
2

You have evolved the way you are for a reason. Feminists make the "evolution" argument when they say all men are rape machines. How are you any better than a feminist?
/r/MensRights02/10/12 12:01 AM
3

Do men have a right to abort their fetuses? Or to prevent an abortion? That's not what /r/mensrights advocates, because that would violate bodily autonomy of the woman. You can't force someone to get a surgery, or prevent them from doing so. MRAs advocate for financial abortion, so that the mother can still decide what to do with her own body but the man doesn't have to become an ATM for 18 years.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 11:57 PM
6

You aren't paying for their birth control. Women are paying for it through their premiums. That's how insurance works.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 11:47 PM
-1

First, you replied to a two-week old post. Second, it's pretty ridiculous to think you know how my mind works better than I do. Or are all women just cheating whores to you?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 11:14 PM
3

I'm glad you think I'm going to divorce my husband just because I decided to take a career in IT.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 10:16 PM
2

There's Santorum, but that douchenozzle is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 07:39 PM
3

I don't think this is meant to represent the current state of affairs, it's supposed to be the combined viewpoints of several far-right politicians and the desires they have stated. Woman: Can I have birth control? Government: No. There are a few whackjobs in the GOP (I'm looking at you Santorum) who would like birth control to be banned entirely. Woman: I got pregnant because I didn't have birth control and I don't want the fetus. Can I have an abortion? Government: No. A great number of politi…
/r/MensRights28/09/12 07:35 PM
2

PINK is the shit, I love that stuff. It makes sex in the shower so much easier.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 07:26 PM
1

well he is screwed... if he gets a divorce.. she robs him. Not likely, they were only married for two years. Alimony is uncommon in short term marriages, and it sounds like they didn't have kids. I hope he left her ass in the street. Also this post is a year old.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 07:24 PM
2

He was only married for two years, alimony is unlikely, and it sounds like they didn't have any kids. I hope he divorced that stupid cunt, she spent more in one month than I make in a year.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 07:23 PM
1

Well I guess it ain't easy doin' nothing at aaaaaaaalllllllll, oh yeah. But hey man, free rides don't just come along every day!
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:57 PM
1

"the family needs more money, but the spouse refuses to fix that" or "We have just about enough money, but it's too unbalanced and I'm getting the short end of the stick - it should be evened out". These would be perfectly reasonable for her to get upset over. Clearly that isn't the case.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:55 PM
11

Well, Talia is crazy.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:13 PM
7

Correlation does not equal causation. Did this study control for culture, socioeconomic status, possible verbal or physical abuse from the husband or wife, number of children? There isn't near enough information to say that women in the kitchen = happy fulfilling marriage.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:09 PM
5

That totally explains relationships where the woman makes more money than the man, or the husband is a SAHD. /s
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:07 PM
2

Need more info before making a judgement call. If it was truly self defense then she was justified.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 05:43 PM
1

She may have just been aiming for his arm or something, which is reasonable when you're getting beat over the head with a pan.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 05:42 PM
7

But that doesn't mean short skirt == inevitable rape.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 05:27 PM
2

Richard Dawkins fills me with warm fuzzies.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 05:24 PM
1

That's why you go to one of the nice clean brothels in Nevada or work as a high-class escort. :)
/r/MensRights26/09/12 11:48 PM
2

I cut down trees. I eat my lunch. I go to the lavatory.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 11:47 PM
1

It actually isn't a real article, it's a clever spam site. This is the real article, it lists software engineer as #1, not online affiliates.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 11:46 PM
1

This is a fake article. Just look at the URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com-64.us/read/?Article=19319 Notice the com-64.us part? Here is the real article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41427952/ns/business-careers/t/want-top-job-do-math/#.UGORbk3A-Sp Much less scammy. The real article lists Software Engineer as the #1 best job, not online affiliates. ಠ_ಠ Also, the top five best jobs listed are also male-dominated, so I wouldn't exactly call it ironic.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 11:44 PM
7

Virtually any group hatred is the result of a power struggle. Misogynists want power over women, misandrists want power over men, racists want power over whatever race(s) it is they hate, classists want power over those they see as lesser classes, and so on. Therefore, the idea that misandry is "resistance" is complete garbage.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 11:15 PM
4

If you believe in "The Patriarchy," then you are a feminist. There is a huge difference between a patriarchal society and "The Patriarchy."
/r/MensRights26/09/12 11:12 PM
8

Wait, what? Where is this from? Do you seriously think MRAs say that misandry is me not bending to the whim and will of my husband? No. It's not misandry if I don't submit to and serve my husband's every desire. It's misandry if I treat him like shit, hit him, abuse him, and assume he's a useless buffoon just because he's a man.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 11:07 PM
1

Not gonna lie, I would have loved it if I'd been kissed at 12 by Adam Levine.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 10:33 PM
4

Well that's good, she abused her position. The sex itself isn't illegal though.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 10:25 PM
3

Isn't the age of consent 16 in the UK? Why were there charges pressed in the first place?
/r/MensRights26/09/12 09:49 PM
1

I have a different father than my siblings (I'm from a previous marriage), yet we still look very much alike.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 10:56 PM
4

Gender and biological sex are different.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 10:52 PM
1

Yes, we do.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 10:47 PM
2

He can go to the media, contact his local ACLU, have a group of parents complain to the superintendent... He'll have his doors back within a week if he raises enough hell.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 05:10 PM
2

Legal paternal surrender is the financial equivalent of an abortion. Since a woman can opt out of parenthood by getting an abortion, MRAs feel that men should also have a choice to opt out by having the opportunity to surrender their rights and responsibilities to the child thereby avoiding the possibility of paying child support for a kid he never wanted.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 03:40 AM
1

if a pretty little lie is enough to change a woman's mind about getting an abortion, then it was never about having a baby in the first place...our was about trapping a man. Oh, right, so the fact that I took my husband's desire into consideration when I was struggling with the decision to have an abortion when we were dating, must mean that I was trying to trap him. Okay then.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 03:34 AM
10

It is on the Jezebel wiki page, but that's pretty obvious. I don't know if it's used as a source on any other pages though.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 02:42 AM
1

now they're worried that women might be "obsolete"? Seriously. Since when is childbirth the only thing that women have to offer the world?
/r/MensRights25/09/12 01:39 AM
1

Social arguments against artificial wombs are ridiculous. The article merely skimmed over the biological implications, preferring to discuss oppression of teh wimminz. There are genuine biological concerns that need to be raised if artificial wombs become a reality (what effect does the sound of the mother's voice and heartbeat have on brain development and neonatal bonding? What can happen if a fetus develops in a stationary environment as opposed to inside a woman who is constantly moving and …
/r/MensRights25/09/12 01:37 AM
2

That's a pretty fucking shitty thing to do. Whether or not the child is aborted is indeed the woman's choice, there is no such thing as "the right thing" when it comes to someone deciding what to do with their own body (speaking strictly of abortion, not any financial issues regarding what happens when the child is born). The lack of legal paternal surrender as an option for men is pretty despicable, but we don't fix that by manipulating women into giving up their rights. We fight for the progre…
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:52 AM
2

Today, she told me that she's having the child, but she doesn't want me to be responsible for anything. Your best hope is that, by some kind of miracle, she stands by what she said. The odds aren't in your favor though. The day legal paternal surrender becomes a reality will be a great day indeed.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:47 AM
1

It's not uncommon for children to have better vocabularies or math skills than their parents, who have been out of school for a while and haven't needed to use the word "crepuscular" since their last spelling bee.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:41 AM
1

Every single episode of those shows has children who are significantly smarter than the adults.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:40 AM
1

Actually, I don't see a problem with either scenario. It's not uncommon for children to have better vocabularies or math skills than their parents, who have been out of school for a while and haven't needed to use the word "crepuscular" since their last spelling bee.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:37 AM
2

Wasn't it just two days ago you were saying how you provide scientific and peer reviewed sources to prove your ridiculous claims? Yet you have just demonstrated that when you are asked to provide such sources you fail miserably and resort to ad hominem attacks to try and redirect the conversation from said failings. Oh truthman, you make me laugh. You are surely quite popular on Game of Trolls. Keep up the good work.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 12:14 AM
1

Isn't that the problem with rape charges? A drunk woman gives consent to have sex, but the next morning feels violated and decides to call it rape?
/r/MensRights24/09/12 11:53 PM
33

Isn't avoiceformen.com technically a blog? Last I checked, wikipedia doesn't allow blogs to be used as sources anyway.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 11:49 PM
1

I don't mind if both partners mutually agree for the mom to stay home while the dad works, but it's a desire I can't comprehend. I would go insane if I had to stay home all day. Women who resent their husbands for not making more money disgust me. My husband works just as hard as I do, I just happen to make more money because of the field I'm in. I don't hold it against him. We've even discussed the possibility of him being a SAHD if he wants.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 06:17 PM
5

Seriously. I'm just subscribed for the hair and makeup advice, but I try to stay away from anything overtly feminist lest my blood boil over.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:35 PM
2

I think you're giving them too much credit.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:32 PM
3

This subreddit isn't developed enough to organize or form a cohesive independent movement. It may happen in the future, but for the time being the subscribers seem content to turn this forum into a place to vent and complain. Which is certainly cathartic, don't get me wrong, but we're a long way off from actually getting anything done. It will only happen when we get tired of the bitching and moaning and actually get off our asses and do something.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:31 PM
1

Notice that this is a source from Utah, where I happen to live. Traditional gender roles are alive and well in this state, and LDS women are actively discouraged from going to school or working. Instead they are told to get married as early as possible (straight out of high school is preferred), and then squeeze out as many children as they can. Suppression of women may not be a problem in most of the Western world, but it's certainly a problem in Utah. It also doesn't help that Utah's family la…
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:18 PM
1

Here in Utah women are told not to bother with college or a career, just marry someone as soon as possible and start popping out kids.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:18 PM
3

Oh yes, because men are incapable of loving children who aren't genetically related to them. All those devoted stepfathers out there are just lying to save face. Asshole.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:09 PM
0

Everything is NSFW by default. I'm amazed you hadn't already figured that out.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 07:58 PM
9

I seriously can't fathom how you haven't yet figured out that truthman2000 is a troll. It's pretty obvious.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 07:44 PM
2

She didn't rape him, she had every reason to believe that he was consenting. That said, this demonstrates a huge double standard in feminism, because if the genders were switched they would all be demonizing him as a rapist.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 10:15 PM
1

My precious feminists? What the fuck does that mean? I never said it was a crime. But just as /r/mensrights points out the stupidity of feminist universal man-hating, we can also point out the stupidity of misogynist universal woman-hating.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 10:01 PM
1

That is so deliciously illegal. Even in the courts biased against men this would be a slam-dunk discrimination lawsuit.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 09:58 PM
4

Since when is heart disease female-specific?
/r/MensRights21/09/12 09:57 PM
5

As he received the photos, the man sent Lester a series of text messages in response, warning “I am sendid what u said 2 da police,” “Da police comein,” and “U going 2 jail.” I laughed much harder than I should have.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 09:55 PM
-3

If she's the only one with custody and is financially capable of raising the child alone, she absolutely should not be getting child support.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 11:32 PM
24

If the case involved a young girl on a cover with the title "finally legal" people would be jumping all over that No they wouldn't.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 11:25 PM
13

Now that's just stupid.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 08:48 PM
3

Because it just goes to show you that men are barbarians who destroy everything they touch! /s
/r/MensRights20/09/12 07:31 PM
2

Go back to SRS.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 07:29 PM
4

You're a good dad.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 07:21 PM
5

Wait, you were paying child support with 50% custody? What? D:
/r/MensRights20/09/12 07:18 PM
5

No it's not, it clearly says NISVS 2010. A quick google search shows that it stands for National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 01:23 AM
5

Nope.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 12:03 AM
11

Interesting. At first I thought it was just a rich man/female sugar site. It looks like they also have sugar mommas and male babies as well. Well, that takes care of my reservations then.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 08:10 PM
5

Good point. If I were to sell my body to pay for college, I'd rather have it be a no-strings attached deal like prostitution rather than run the risk of toying with someone's emotions.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 08:08 PM
2

There's an even larger body of evidence showing why it's harmful. I linked you to a page showing you why the aap report is bogus. The FGM link was to show that the aap can and has endorsed barbaric procedures in the past, so why should male circumcision be any different?
/r/MensRights19/09/12 04:06 PM
8

Autocorrect is a bitch.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 05:17 AM
1

Since when is 16 or 17 slightly post-pubescent? That is physically full grown, if not mentally. Plenty of older women have done that with Nick Jonas, Robert Pattinson, Zac Effron, Daniel Radcliffe, Aaron Carter, young Michael Jackson, Johnathan Taylor Thomas, Joseph Gordon Levitt, any member of NSYNC or Backstreet boys, and so on. All of these boys were idols before the age of 18.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 02:42 AM
12

You want examples? Here you go. Man raised as a girl after circumcision caused him to lose his penis. Skin bridges. Necrosis of the glans 13 days after circumcision. Mangled penis caused by improper Plastibell circumcision. Excessive skin loss from a migrated Plastibell ring. Miami infant left with scarred and deformed penis after botched circumcision. Adult man has his penis amputated after a failed circumcision. Family received $2.3 million settlement after their son's penis is severed. Compli…
/r/MensRights19/09/12 01:01 AM
2

Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Perfectly acceptable. Unless the bar has a strict NO BOYS ALLOWED rule, I don't see a problem. This club exists for much of the same reasons strip clubs do.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 12:09 AM
12

Now, moisture plus body heat and a days worth of sweat can cause problems. That same logic can be applied to women. Should we cut out women's labia in order to slightly decrease their risk of yeast infections or UTIs? Major studies have shown that there is little to no difference in cleanliness between a cut and an uncut dick. Just look at the back story of my first post. For every anecdote you provide showing the dangers of not circumcising, I can give you five more showing you the clear danger…
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:51 PM
1

You're fucking stupid if you think it's not perfectly normal to have some level of sexual attraction to 16 or 17 year old girls.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:31 PM
16

There won't be much collecting there if your son actually showers every day. The lips of the vagina can gather dirt and sweat if not properly cleaned, should we go cutting those off too?
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:23 PM
5

And here is why their endorsement is bullshit.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:22 PM
5

The AAP study is extremely flawed and has been denounced by medical groups around the country and the world.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:21 PM
2

www.circumcision.org An excellent resource. They cite their sources and provide a nice balance.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:10 PM
3

SuicideBanana? That amateur? No no, he needs to take a leaf out of truthman2000's book. That guy is a fucking artist when it comes to trolling MRAs.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:06 PM
1

Men don't need sex. You aren't going to die without it. You are more than a walking erection. There's nothing wrong with a guy who wants some no-strings-attached sex. What is wrong is when he is not clear about what he wants with women. I don't care about one night stands as long as everyone is on the same page. A man who tells a woman he loves her just to get into her pants is an asshole. A woman who tells a man she loves him just to get into his wallet is an asshole.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:03 PM
2

I won't lie, I agree that it's important to get a little experience (of all kinds) before you settle down. But your dad took that way too far.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:58 PM
6

Men will lie to you, tell you they love you, and pressure you until you give in and have sex with them. Once they have sex with you they will move on to the next girl. Men only want one thing. Men are walking penises. Men don't have enough blood to run their dicks and their brains at the same time. Men will try to rape you if you are alone with one. Men won't take no for an answer. This is the kind of shit my mother told me growing up.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:55 PM
13

Oh you mean the group who made that conclusion based on an incredibly flawed study? The group who has also advocated making female genital mutilation legal in the US? That American Academy of Pediatrics?
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:47 PM
11

They don't fall asleep, they go into shock.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:44 PM
16

I will circumcise my sons mostly for cleanliness reasons. Or maybe you could try not being a lazy fuck and teach your son how to properly wash his junk.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:43 PM
5

I'm cracking up. The way you horrifically mangle the English language, combined with your complete ignorance on how a scientific experiment works, just tells me you're a hilarious troll. behvoure patterns of the pupluation and the genders. pupluation and the genders. pupluation Oh god my sides. They hurt.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:39 PM
13

The fact that you consider yahoo answers a good source for anything doesn't exactly cast you in a good light. Not to mention your atrocious grammar and spelling. What you just did is no different from a feminist saying that most men are racist misogynist homophobes just because she looked at 4chan.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:26 PM
6

That didn't even make sense.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:23 PM
41

Don't be ashamed to be a woman. Stupidity is gender-neutral.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 10:18 PM
2

Actually, a feminist would say that your listed websites are misogynistic and victimize desperate women. The website linked by OP? That's just women being empowered!
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:22 PM
2

Twilight is popular (50 shades of gray actually started out as shitty Twilight fanfiction). This does not mean that most women want to get into a relationship with an abusive psychopath who controls their every action, forces them into marriage, and then tries to force them to get an abortion.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:34 AM
1

that's not contrary to what i said. being submissive to your partner in bed is (arguably) the supressed desire to do so on a personal level. So because I like to dress up in skimpy outfits and do a little rape-fantasy with my husband, I must secretly want to be a stripper who gets raped on a daily basis. Your logic is sound, dude.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:32 AM
2

You aren't familiar with The Onion, are you?
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:29 AM
2

What concerns me is the main thing you're worried about isn't, "Will my new employee be a hard worker and help me grow my business?" No, you're worried about "Will my new employee be able to rape me?" Hire the best person for the job. It's not a complicated situation.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:24 AM
2

How you should have responded: Men taking birth control pills is not an excuse for women to stop. You both should be taking your pills, dumbass.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:15 AM
20

If a woman is in a truly horrible relationship, can't stand her husband, and wants to leave, she's going to leave regardless of whether she gets alimony. Why do feminists assume that women are so weak we can't possibly help ourselves without everyone holding our hands? They always say that giving men choices in life would take away the choices of women... no they won't! It simply prevents unwilling men from being affected by those choices. Legal paternal surrender, child support reform, abolishi…
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:13 AM
2

Recognizing how much of a disadvantage he is at as a man puts him in a vulnerable position he would rather not acknowledge. It's easier to pretend everything is just fine. The same can be said for fathers who insist on circumcising their sons.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:06 AM
3

I think we can safely say that the majority of men and women in western prisons are there for nonviolent offenses. Violent crime has been falling drastically over the last 30 years, yet the number of inmates has been rapidly rising.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:04 AM
4

Want to solve this problem? Stop jailing men and women for non-violent crimes. If every mother and father imprisoned for smoking a fucking joint or not paying child support were released, we'd have a lot more children with their parents back.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:01 AM
5

They teach this in women's studies. If a guy upsets you, you should claim he raped you. I'm not standing up for women's studies or anything, but that's not what they teach. They're perfectly happy to harp about how all women are victims and all the men want to keep the ladies down, but they don't actually advocate filing false police reports. To the contrary, they pretend that kind of thing never happens.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 04:54 AM
6

It's just a movie. Have you ever seen Sex and the City? Not a single woman in that show has any redeeming qualities. They're all horrible, awful women, yet I don't go running around screaming about how misogynistic Sex and the City is.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 04:49 AM
5

The emotional damage dealt by domestic abuse can be far, far worse than the physical damage.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 04:48 AM
6

He is so clearly going after easy political points; when he said "never, never, never, never hit a woman" To be honest, he did say "except in self defense," but those words were drowned out by the the applause. However, his response after Whoopi made her comments on how inappropriate it is for a woman to hit a man was disgusting. He completely dodged what she said. I like how Barbara Walters had a "WTF are you talking about, you giant asshole?" look on her face as he was speaking.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 04:44 AM
2

No, it's not the case. I'm a liberal democrat and I would also be perfectly happy to see virtually all religion stripped from the planet.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 04:05 AM
4

There's nothing wrong with a man or a woman waiting to commit until they are older and more mature.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 12:45 AM
5

of course all studies show that children do much better when their parents have intact, happy or not, marriages No. Bullshit. My parents should have gotten divorced years before they did. Waiting until it reaches critical mass and beyond is the worst fucking idea you could ever perpetuate. It is not fucking pleasant growing up seeing your parents hate each other, fight all the time, and be miserable. My siblings and I grew up not knowing what a healthy relationship is like.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 12:39 AM
-2

Fuck no. God forbid I have a gay, secular, or transgendered son, they would make him feel like the devil incarnate. I wouldn't want my children around such people.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 12:33 AM
5

Implying that someone with liberal tendencies can't also hate the fuck out of barbaric religions.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 12:29 AM
2

So?
/r/MensRights17/09/12 12:17 AM
7

Thank you very much. :) I can't in good conscience link to the daily mail when providing sources, but I wanted to share this story.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 12:14 AM
3

You know, I don't give a fuck what you do. But don't go telling other people who they should or should not love. That's my main problem here. You're telling OP to break up with his girlfriend just because she's been raped in the past, when you have no idea about what kind of person she is or if it's had any lasting effect on her. And then you try to shame OP by saying he might be crazy too by mere association.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 07:33 PM
2

And how the fuck do you know that rape turns a woman insane? There are plenty of women who recover from such trauma with no lasting ill effects. How about you choose your women based off of how they behave, rather than some stupid checklist? That's like me saying I would never date a combat veteran, because war damages men so much it leaves them insane; therefore, combat veterans don't deserve love. Ever. That's a pretty awful thing to say.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 06:47 PM
1

I'm really not that rare. The type of women you interact with is entirely dependent on your age group and where you live. If you truly can't find good women where you are (and I highly doubt this), you should consider moving or dating women from a different age group. You also might want to consider a change in attitude.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:51 PM
2

Sorry, but saying someone who has been raped doesn't deserve love does indeed make you a shitty person. Many women recover from such an experience just fine.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:48 PM
0

I understand where you're coming from, and I kind of get that a lot of what you're saying is subconscious, but attention from other men is truly low if not non existent on my list of priorities when I go out. I just want zero misunderstanding that when I or any other woman in a committed relationship dresses in a flattering or even mildly revealing manner, she must be an attention whore. Saying that a woman only dresses up to attract men gives the impression that a monogamous woman who does so m…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 07:28 AM
2

So women who have been raped don't deserve to have a good man love them? Are you fucking serious? Yeah, it's a little weird that she didn't find a new therapist, but if you seriously think that past abuse is a deal breaker, you're a shitty person.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 06:54 AM
4

Because my husband likes the outfits, and I want to look like I actually care that we're going on a nice date. I'm not going to go to some fancy French restaurant on our anniversary dressed in sweatpants because I don't dare have other men look at me. I don't care if they do. I dress that way because I enjoy my husband not being able to take his eyes of me. It's the same reason he also dresses nicely on our dates, because he likes it when I can't take my eyes off of his sexy self. Not to mention…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 06:48 AM
1

I don't usually walk around wearing low cut shirts when I'm out by myself. I did when I was single, but I don't feel the need to do that anymore. Sure, I'll dress nicely, because I can't go to work looking like a hobo, but that's about it. Plus I like coming home and hearing my husband tell me I look nice. Edit: And most women have sexy outfits or lingerie that they only wear at home for their significant other. Don't presume to think that I only try to look nice for him in public. I have a draw…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 06:40 AM
2

Most sources say that passing a large kidney stone is much closer to the pain of natural childbirth.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:28 AM
5

When I got pregnant at 19. My boyfriend and I (now my husband) mutually agreed to have an abortion, but I was a little struck by the fact that the decision was 100% in my hands, and that if I decided to keep the baby against his will I would change his life forever. I wondered why he didn't have any say about parenthood but I did.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:24 AM
1

People who don't register as organ donors disgust me. I mean, I get it if you have AIDS or something, but if you're doing it because the idea of not having your organs when you're dead makes you uncomfortable, you're a selfish motherfucker.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:21 AM
3

I generally try to avoid any threads in /r/TwoXChromosomes that are feminist specific. If you so much as mention that men have problems or that you're an MRA you get downvoted to hell. That sub seriously has one of the worst hiveminds I've ever seen on reddit. And they then have the audacity to claim that TwoX is overrun with MRAs. Bullshit. I do like the majority of that sub, though. I can get pretty good hair and fashion advice there.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:20 AM
1

Plenty of Christians think atheists worship Satan. They can't wrap their minds around someone not believing in a deity.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:10 AM
0

Why won't you believe in the sky man?! He's there because I say he is!
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:09 AM
0

Killing in self defense is 100% justified.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:04 AM
0

Obviously.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:03 AM
0

She did this after years of abuse, numerous threats and seeing him strike their son to the ground. Yes, it is his fucking fault that he's dead. Seriously, this is not a fucking gender issue. Anyone has the right to defend themselves and their children. If the genders were swapped I would still say the shooter was in the right. You can only push someone so far. I wouldn't blame a man for doing the same thing.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 12:02 AM
1

What's wrong with getting therapy? Why is her past rape a black mark?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:55 PM
2

Wait, what?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:52 PM
1

She's certainly not a misogynist pig, but it's not that girl's fault she was raped. She exercised poor judgement, sure, but she is not to blame for what happened to her. It's absolutely a good thing to encourage preventative caution, but I think your girlfriend went a little far. Calling her a dumbass is horribly calloused, and drifts very close to legitimate victim blaming. Anyway, your girlfriend needs a new therapist.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:50 PM
1

Probably doesn't mean much. You can find large concentrations of single men or women regardless of how liberal or conservative that area is. Liberal states like California or Washington have tons of single men, but then liberal places like New York have tons of single women. Conservative Utah, Arizona, and Alaska have lots of single men, but the conservative south also has lots of single women.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:45 PM
1

Not to mention the southeast.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:40 PM
2

With how plagued by trolls this subreddit is, that's a bad idea. That would force us to validate the trolls by replying, instead of downvoting and ignoring them.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:38 PM
5

When I go on a date with my husband wearing a low-cut dress, I'm not doing it to attract men. I'm doing it to attract one single man. I don't care about looking sexy to anyone else, but I very much enjoy looking sexy for my husband. Of course, on that same note I don't flip shit and start creep-shaming when I catch another guy looking at my chest. I know it's going to happen anyway, and it's not a big deal. The only ogling I care about is my husband's, and I don't feel threatened by anyone else'…
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:34 PM
22

While it's true women shouldn't be subject to sexual harassment just because they wanted to wear something a bit revealing, I think the definition of harassment is getting quite mangled by feminists. A guy staring at your boobs is not harassment. A suggestive wink is not harassment. Telling a woman they look pretty is not harassment. Flirting is not harassment. Sexual harassment is when a guy walks up to you and starts grabbing at you, repeatedly asking for sexual favors or making lewd remarks a…
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:25 PM
-2

Yeah. He's a dick. He beat up his girlfriend. I would also support publicly shaming a female musician who beat up her boyfriend.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:15 PM
28

Absolutely. I don't think a female stripper or porn star is some kind of helpless victim of objectification either.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:11 PM
15

I was a little nervous about this, because the first thing that jumped to mind was false allegations of false accusations (yo dawg). The last thing we'd want is some guy to put his ex on this website because she cheated on him or something. Then I checked here: Only those submissions that can be corroborated by either a link(s) to a recognized news affiliate and/or digital copies of court records, with correct contact information for that court, or other compelling, substantiated documentation, …
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:07 PM
55

You know, it's entirely their choice if they want to expose themselves for ladies' enjoyment.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 11:02 PM
4

Option 1 is actually the correct answer. Light jokes about attractiveness is not harassment regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 10:59 PM
1

How would you enforce it though?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 03:59 PM
1

I'll be teaching my children to feel empowered, regardless of sex. They will be taught self-reliance and independence, and they will know that they and they alone have power over their future; they should let no one else have that kind of power over them. I think that's a message every child should learn.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 10:13 PM
1

You can get pregnant at any time during your cycle. Why the hell would you risk 21 years of indentured servitude just to avoid a 20 minute virtually painless procedure?
/r/MensRights13/09/12 10:05 PM
2

Innocent until proven guilty. Her name should not have been released unless she's convicted.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 10:04 PM
1

I love Allie. I hope she feels better soon and continues to grace us with her magical humor. Depression is a bitch. :(
/r/MensRights13/09/12 09:55 PM
0

So you think men shouldn't be taking birth control or getting vasectomies, but it's totally dandy for women to take the pill or get her tubes tied? Or that birth control and sterilization shouldn't even be considered by anyone? Why should men be punished for unwanted pregnancies by having to abstain from sex? You're acting like a vasectomy is some kind of horrible procedure that unwilling men get out of sheer desperation. It's not. It is a voluntary procedure that informed men choose out of a de…
/r/MensRights13/09/12 09:09 PM
2

Yup, that's why the idea stays in fantasy land in my head.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 09:04 PM
1

So do male homophobes hate lesbians because they're angry about not being able to have sex with them? Your statement is moronic.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 09:02 PM
0

Why are men the ones who need to abstain from sex? Why are men the ones who need to exercise self control?
/r/MensRights13/09/12 08:58 PM
1

Saying "Sex is only for the purpose of procreation," or "don't ever ever ever have sex until you're ready for kids" sounds more like religious fanaticism rather than feminism. Hell, even feminism has the whole sexual revolution thing going for them, pushing for birth control and abortion availability. If it's "unnatural" for a man to take birth control or get a vasectomy, is it also unnatural for a woman to take birth control or get her tubes tied? Should we all just abstain from the incredibly …
/r/MensRights13/09/12 08:56 PM
7

Sure, but like I said, in my imaginary world there wouldn't be any requirements other than taking a parenting class. You couldn't be denied for some stupid reason like race or religion or hair color, but it would put a stop to unwanted pregnancies. Most of the unwanted children in the country were accidents anyway.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 05:30 PM
9

Well, that's your own damn fault.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 05:28 PM
3

While it's discriminatory, it kind of makes sense. Just because you get snipped there's nothing (theoretically) stopping your wife from getting pregnant by someone else, thus further burdening the system. Not saying she would, but the state doesn't know that. I think the state is more concerned with making sure she doesn't get pregnant at all.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 05:23 PM
-1

Oh sure, let's just pop out ten kids. Sounds like a great idea.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 05:21 PM
20

In my personal fantasy land, all babies are reversibly sterilized at birth, and you have to apply to become fertile again. I probably wouldn't have a checklist of requirements or anything like that, since the power to control who breeds is too much for anyone. Just take a couple parenting classes and then you can make babies. All pregnancies would have to be planned by both partners, no more unwanted children, no more abortions, no more indentured servitude. Everyone wins!
/r/MensRights13/09/12 05:19 PM
24

Fortunately she lost that one.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 05:14 PM
1

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he's a troll trying to piss off gay men who desperately want to adopt children.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 04:52 PM
0

That's required though. I'm not going to bitch at someone for "wasting my tax dollars" because they went to high school (since that's a legal requirement) and then decided to be a stay at home parent. They're still contributing to society by raising the next generation of taxpayers, who will be paying for my social security when I'm too old to wipe my ass.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 03:37 PM
0

Ah, gotcha.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 03:51 AM
1

Sure, for medical school. Except, you know, the comment in OP's quote had nothing to do with a medical degree. So that's a bit irrelevant.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 03:49 AM
1

Of course he did, that's why the video is here.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 02:25 AM
1

How do you know she didn't pay for her education herself? Maybe she paid out of pocket, or maybe she is paying for her loans.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 02:13 AM
4

Oh yes, raw statistics. How is this bullshit any different from the figures used for the "wage gap?" Our shitty economy totally isn't due to rapid inflation and stagnating wages, nope. It's because women get to work. Totally.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 12:52 AM
3

It is adjusted for inflation, you just have to look closely. Whoever made this infographic did a bad job.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 12:50 AM
2

There's nothing wrong with learning for the sake of learning.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 12:44 AM
0

Yes. Women don't have to make up half of the workforce in every single area. It's important to allow women to work somewhere if they want, but don't just hand it to them and call it equality.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 12:41 AM
6

/r/nocontext is meant to be funny. SRS... not so much.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:14 AM
12

Take a sentence that makes perfect sense with context, remove said context, and post it to /r/nocontext. Just look through the subreddit and you'll get it.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 10:19 PM
1

A rimjob.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 10:04 PM
3

BECAUSE WIMMINZ CAN'T PROGRAM AMIRITE?!
/r/MensRights11/09/12 10:04 PM
32

Black homosexual woman MRA.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 10:01 PM
14

I... I don't think you understand what /r/nocontext is about...
/r/MensRights11/09/12 09:59 PM
1

I definitely wish some people could be prevented from breeding. However, I'm terrified of giving that kind of power to one person or one group of people. Who gets to decide who breeds and who does not? If they can prohibit certain people from reproducing, what's stopping them from doing the same to me or those I love? And I don't know about prohibiting feminists or conservative christians from breeding - would there be specific guidelines? Like I said above, many women only call themselves femin…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 03:05 AM
1

Where did I imply that sleeping around while in a committed relationship is OK?
/r/MensRights11/09/12 02:54 AM
1

In the end, it doesn't matter to me. My initial hesitance to be with someone with a ton of partners may just stem from my strict Christian upbringing that I have since rejected. I'm slowly coming around. But like I said: hell, even if they're over that number, I would still prefer to get to know them as a person. I don't really mind if someone is sexually open, as long as they're clean and willing to be monogamous with me. That's more important to me than the number of notches on their belt. I a…
/r/MensRights10/09/12 11:14 PM
1

I don't think that's always true, although it often is. For example, I don't think /r/mensrights is about establishing male superiority. It's possible that may someday change, but until that time I fully support its primary goal of equality. But in the end, I don't automatically look at someone who self identifies as a feminist as some kind of man-hater with a victim complex, even though many of them are. Just like, even though I'm an atheist, I don't automatically look at someone who identifies…
/r/MensRights10/09/12 11:10 PM
1

Lots of women identify as feminists without actually knowing what that means. Many of them think it means "female equality" rather than "female superiority." I used to identify as a feminist for that very reason. Then I found this subreddit and was educated.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 10:20 PM
3

It's unfortunate. I can only hope that she misspoke, for her husband's sake.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 10:18 PM
1

Sure, but even so it's not anyone's place to judge. I mean, I agree I probably wouldn't get serious with someone who has had like 150 partners, but I wouldn't think they're some kind of man-whore. A general rule of thumb I go by: One partner per year since they lost their virginity. If they're within 30% of that number, it's all good. But hell, even if they're over that number, I would still prefer to get to know them as a person. I don't really mind if someone is sexually open, as long as they'…
/r/MensRights10/09/12 10:15 PM
1

Lets face it, men are dumb. We basically have the needs of a donkey, very little actually. We like food, sex, and horsing around. I immediately stopped reading.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 07:18 PM
3

Ah, gotcha.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:46 PM
1

To be fair, a guy who cheats on his wife isn't exactly the best role model for kids anyway.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:40 PM
2

Yet when women cheat the people in here call for blood.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:39 PM
1

Yeah. He cheated on her. I really don't give a shit about him or his wife. Now, if it was the wife who cheated and still got half his stuff, then I'd be angry. But he is a scumbag.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:37 PM
5

There absolutely is a double standard, I never argued that. I just provided a bit of an explanation.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:35 PM
1

From the same article you provided.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:33 PM
0

She never said this though.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:32 PM
0

She never said this.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:31 PM
4

Intimacy and high number of sexual partners is not mutually exclusive. You also aren't accounting for age. Is it really that horrible if a 38 year old has had 12 sexual partners?
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:12 PM
6

IQ has nothing to do with your work ethic, intelligence, or how successful you'll be. Many of the most successful musicians and actors in the world are also complete idiots. There is no single best indicator. Success is a combination of hard work and luck.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:09 PM
1

A 17 year old is very different from a 15 year old, both mentally and legally.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:04 PM
17

Slut shaming is more used as a trump card. If a woman isn't abiding by your standard of modesty, or if she's just not acting in a way you like, you can call her a slut to try and get her to shut up or leave. It's not so much an excuse to act as slutty as you want without consequences (ideally, at least). Similarly, creep shaming is also used as a trump card. If a man isn't abiding by your standard of normal social behavior, or if he's just not acting in a way you like, you can call him a creep t…
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:02 PM
1

You're full of shit.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 05:52 PM
13

I don't know about that. I mean, saying she's more "intellectual" than him is a pretty terrible thing to say, but they might be perfectly happy in their roles. There's nothing inherently wrong with having a female breadwinner and a stay-at-home dad. But yeah, her remark about intelligence was over the top.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 05:52 PM
3

Good thing IQ is a shitty indicator of overall intelligence.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 05:46 PM
2

Chemical castration doesn't infringe on someone's right to procreate. It simply reduces their sex drive. It doesn't make them incapable of having sex or having children.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 04:16 AM
2

Only young men get charged more for car insurance, because they statistically take more risks. After a certain age rates are the same as women. That said, young women are often very shitty drivers. It evens out. I feel that all inexperienced drivers should be charged similar higher rates, then have them drop after 3 years of accident-free driving. Men do get charged more for life insurance though. Although life insurance isn't nearly as important to the well-being and stability of a nation as pr…
/r/MensRights09/09/12 07:35 PM
1

You say that like there isn't already a pedophile witch hunt. Statutory rape is very different from pedophilia. Your example is irrelevant. Yes, statutory rape laws need to be overhauled, but my post was specifically about adults who cannot stop themselves from harming very young children.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 05:00 PM
1

See my earlier post: and you are unable to keep yourself from acting on them I already made that distinction. I know there are pedophiles who never offend.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:57 PM
1

Very good idea. The world is still a beautiful place and this is still an exciting time to be alive! Yeah, men get the short end of the stick in a lot of areas today, but there's a lot of great stuff too!
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:11 AM
1

If there are debit card records of her bar tabs, gather them too. Ooh, that's a good idea.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:07 AM
1

Don't give up just yet. Try to see a marriage counselor. Your relationship obviously needs help, but if she's not cheating it might be possible to mend. Divorce should be a last resort, especially for the sake of your children. Your 14 year old will be particularly difficult to handle if a divorce does happen. But yes, if she's cheating or if the marriage is beyond repair, I would advise you to get a good lawyer an try to make the split as easy as possible on your children.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:04 AM
1

Interesting. I know it's 20 years old, but it's a fascinating read nonetheless. Thanks!
/r/MensRights09/09/12 03:35 AM
1

Chemical castration is entirely reversible, and it's used today. Usually those who are chemically castrated either do it voluntarily out of a desire to stop their harmful urges, or choose it over an extended prison term.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 03:10 AM
1

I know females are overwhelmingly more likely to physically abuse children, but I was wondering if anyone has statistics on female pedophilia? Keep in mind that sexual attraction to a teenager is not pedophilia, it's ephebophilia or hebephilia. A pedophile is specifically attracted to prepubescent children, and has no sexual desire for adolescents. I know female pedophiles certainly exist, but I'm interested to see some numbers. Edit: Found something. The cached version is provided to get around…
/r/MensRights09/09/12 12:34 AM
-1

This is exactly why I support chemical castration for pedophiles who offend. I do feel that research should be done to find ways to effectively castrate female offenders, much like they already do with males. If your sexual desires would violate the rights of others and you are unable to keep yourself from acting on them, then your sexual desires need to be removed. Man or woman.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 12:29 AM
3

South Park explains the tendency to ignore female pedophilia quite nicely.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 12:25 AM
2

Simon always tells untalented women that they're horrible or don't have the look of a star. No one gives a shit when he does, nor should they.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 12:12 AM
68

You mean spoiled women on a power trip with too much publicity and fame? Absolutely.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 12:11 AM
3

Do you honestly think no men are pedophiles? You must have missed the Catholic priest scandals. Some men are pedophiles. Some women are pedophiles. They both make up a minuscule percentage of the population.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 06:41 PM
2

Since when is a 36 band size fat? Especially when I'm six feet tall?
/r/MensRights07/09/12 04:45 PM
1

This kind of thing neds oot be reported Not gonna lie, I giggled like an idiot.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 06:21 AM
7

And I don't understand why you believe a random stranger on the internet without proof. This story is so obviously crafted to hit all the right buttons in r/mensrights. All he has to do is update with the correct case number and I'll retract my statement. He seems content to ignore anyone calling him out, however.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 07:39 PM
1

It says to enter a case number or name, so you can search by either.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 06:03 PM
2

You're correct. Nevada County case search shows the same thing. He's still full of shit. I updated my post, however.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 05:05 PM
4

Nevada County case search shows the same thing.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 04:55 PM
2

Ha!
/r/MensRights06/09/12 04:02 PM
7

If you look through the comments you'll see a dozen or more deleted posts, as well as messages from the mods saying that advocating violence is unacceptable.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 04:00 PM
19

The worst thing about the thread here that was filled with wanton murder fantasies is that it was completely and utterly fake. Few people even bothered to do their research, instead opting to grab their pitchforks and call for the imaginary woman's death. MRM always champions the idea of innocent until proven guilty; when it comes to rape cases we always say how unjust it is that the word of a single woman is enough to throw a man in jail for the rest of his life. Apparently, the word of a singl…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 06:21 AM
5

It is indeed fake.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 06:14 AM
1

Agreed.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 03:42 AM
2

I copied and pasted exactly what he entered in his post.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 03:42 AM
4

Over time I've become more and more positive that truthman2000 is a troll who just likes getting a rise out of MRAs.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 03:35 AM
2

When he was 5 weeks old, Holden’s mother, Katherine Nadal, sliced off his genitals in a drug-induced haze –- a horrific crime that landed her 99 years in prison, according to Chron.com. Good!
/r/MensRights06/09/12 03:25 AM
1

You moron. Love is more than genetics. Are you saying that parents are incapable of loving adopted children? That step-parents can't love their step-children? If that's what you're saying, kindly fuck off.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 03:22 AM
2

It's tough. On the one hand, her biological father deserves to know her and she deserves to know him. On the other hand, you absolutely do not deserve to have your rights terminated if you still desire a relationship with your daughter. I don't know that she can terminate your rights without reason, especially since you've played a paternal role for five years. That said, once she finds out terminating your rights won't be a piece of cake, it opens you up to false abuse allegations. Record every…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 03:20 AM
0

So if a guy wants to talk to her it's apparently because he feels he's entitled to conversation with her? Wow, I wasn't aware that the entire world revolved around this woman.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 03:13 AM
61

Hijacking the top comment. It's fake. The case number does not exist and his account is nine days old. This guy is full of shit. Ninja edit: Got the right county this time.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 02:51 AM
7

It's fake.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 02:47 AM
3

It's fake.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 02:47 AM
60

Your case number does not exist. Your account is only nine days old. You are full of shit and you are playing on the emotions of men who have truly been fucked over by the system, all in order to get some internet points. You are no better than some stupid cunt who makes false rape allegations for attention and sympathy. If anyone wants to find out for themselves, you can enter his case number here to look it up. Select "Unknown - All" for both drop down options. Wrong county, look it up here. T…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 12:35 AM
2

I'm in favor of child support reform, because while I definitely think that support payments should be based off of a reasonable percentage of income (none of this 60% bullshit), it still plays an important role in making sure the children are provided for. Alimony, on the other hand, needs to be outlawed completely. A grown-ass adult doesn't need their ex-spouse to take care of them. "Spousal support" is such garbage, it reduces the payee to the level of retarded seven year old in terms of self…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 12:01 AM
4

Some of the best and most engaging teachers I ever had were men.
/r/MensRights04/09/12 07:24 PM
5

I take sex and pregnancy as completely separate issues. A 20 year old man could easily get a 14 year old girl pregnant as well if he chose not to wear a condom. I'm looking solely at the ethics behind a 14 year old and a 20 year old having sex. Unless the 20 year old was in a position of power or used drugs/alcohol to incapacitate the younger participant, I don't see the problem. But as always, the absence of paternal surrender complicates things beyond simple ethics, so you have a point.
/r/MensRights04/09/12 02:07 AM
12

He's also a complete dumbass because the majority of men in our government have repeatedly voted to protect the rights of women in areas such as abortion and birth control.
/r/MensRights04/09/12 01:07 AM
7

That's... actually a terrible idea. There are plenty of female legislators who would put forth legislation that would damage women. Just look at Michelle Bachmann, Christine O'Donnell, and Sarah Palin to name a few. Every single one of them would vote to ban abortions, restrict or outlaw birth control, and defund Planned Parenthood. There are also plenty of men who would vote to preserve the rights of women. I think this is actually an underhanded post to exclude conservatives from voting. Grant…
/r/MensRights04/09/12 01:04 AM
2

Virtually all of the comments on the site are disgusting. Apparently 14 year old boys always want it because boner = consent, but a 14 year old girl never gives consent because purity and angels and big bad men.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 10:23 PM
5

My 17 year old brother had a sexual relationship with a 40-something year old, who was the mother of his then-best friend. Under normal circumstances, that wouldn't bother me, because I know a 17 year old is perfectly capable of deciding who s/he wants to sleep with. However, this woman would give him hard drugs (the bitch got him hooked on meth) and then take advantage of him while he was bordering unconsciousness. She was manipulative and evil, saying she would kill herself without him, that o…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 10:13 PM
6

Absolutely, doesn't make it right though. A 14 year old girl having consensual sex with a 20 year old man doesn't set off alarm bells in my head, although our lawmakers aren't quite so rational.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 09:53 PM
14

That's unnecessary. Almost everyone here knows that not all women are crazy. There are however enough of them that it makes this movement a necessity.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 07:23 PM
35

now the feminists should capitalize on this. this is a fantastic opportunity for them to illustrate how damaging false rape accusations can be. They're likely going to say he raped her in the past, they won't ever admit that false rape accusations are common. ugh. i am ashamed to be a female sometimes. now is one of those times. Now that's just stupid. False rape accusations happen, it doesn't mean all women are horrible creatures. Just like all men shouldn't be ashamed of their gender just beca…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 07:19 PM
9

She's crying about being raped, then sits down on his bed and tells him she'll do anything he wants. What. The. Hell.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 07:12 PM
2

It's not like the right never censors anybody. Look what they did to Ron Paul. You'd be incredibly stupid to think that censorship is solely done by the left.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 07:01 PM
1

Nothing wrong with that. Once a woman has proven that she's not an entitled child, it's okay to hold a door open for her every now and then. It's like if a woman makes you a sandwich because she wants to, not because you think you're entitled to it.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 12:43 AM
6

So now you want to go dictating other peoples' behavior? I'm sorry, I thought this was men's rights. He has the right to do as he damn well pleases. God, you sound like a feminist who condemns a woman for being a stay-at-home mom.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 12:39 AM
2

Almost all social change in recent history has been due to pandering. Do I think Obama really supports marriage equality? I'm leaning towards no, but that doesn't mean I won't be very very happy if he puts forward legislation for it, and I could give a shit about his ulterior motives. Is Romney really a pro-life advocate? Of course not, he only started saying that in the last two years to try and get some of that sweet, sweet social conservative vote. I agree that pandering only works because pe…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:58 PM
1

Don't forget truthman. Although I'm starting to suspect he's a highly skilled troll.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:30 PM
1

Were you really expecting rationality from /r/lgbt? Go hang out in /r/ainbow. It's a much more accepting place. We like them.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:28 PM
5

If a man wants to pay, that's entirely his choice. Now, if a woman expects him to pay, that's where the problem lies.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:19 PM
0

Way to assume.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:18 PM
1

I'm actually all for the traditional gentleman gestures, but only with a woman who has shown me that she's worth it and who reciprocates in kind, not with some random chick I don't even know. If you've been out with a woman a few times and things are going well, then you can pull out the gentleman moves to step things up a notch. Thank you. Women aren't entitled to kindness and mild chivalry, they have to earn it.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:17 PM
1

You taught her a valuable lesson that day. She probably respected you more for holding your ground and not acting like a doormat.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:16 PM
3

A woman should never expect to have her date paid for or have the door opened for her. All it should be is a nice gesture, not some kind of obligation that will make or break the date.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:14 PM
6

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qqk8c/
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:09 PM
0

You say you feel judged due to your outward appearance. Luckily for you, you can change the way you look. You kind of remind me of a woman who wears extremely revealing clothing, and then gets upset when someone stares at her. Or like a woman who screams "victim blaming" when she's told it's probably a bad idea to walk through a dark alley in the middle of the night because it could increase her chances of getting raped. Look dude, in a perfect world no one would be judged based on how they look…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:05 PM
3

DerpMatt isn't asking for conformity, he was pointing out what the problem is. We live in a society where people judge on outward appearances. That's not ever going to fucking change, it's pure instinct. OP obviously feels paranoid due to his unkempt appearance. Lucky for OP, he has complete and 100% control over what he looks like.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 09:49 PM
6

You know, I don't particularly care if a woman wants to breastfeed or formula feed. I get that everyone has their reasons, and formula fed babies grow up just fine. But shame on this author for trying to demonize women who choose to breastfeed! Somehow a mother is less of a woman if she wants to bond with her child by breastfeeding? Somehow she is dragging down the rights and equality of women because she's doing what all mammals have done for millions of years? What a self-righteous cunt.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 09:44 PM
8

But this particular article was about a grandmother. I agree, it's tragic but it doesn't exactly pertain to men's rights.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 06:06 PM
3

Seriously. Do people honestly think Obama is the only one doing this? Yeah, Romney totally isn't giving the religious right a hand job to try and garner more votes, despite having done a complete 180 on nearly every issue over the last ten years. Pandering happens people, deal with it.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 04:55 PM
1

I know right, because I'm such a hottie it's obvious that any man would be dying to get in my pants.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 04:50 PM
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Does it particularly matter whether or not it's pandering? It's still bringing attention to the serious issue of prostate cancer, something that is rarely given any thought, as opposed to breast cancer. I don't really care if he's only doing it to get votes, it's still going to benefit men.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 06:54 AM
14

Not without a copay.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 06:50 AM
2

I agreed that it's creepy. Where did you get the idea that I was defending him? I simply said she needs to speak the fuck up if she's uncomfortable. If he keeps pursuing her after being clearly told she doesn't want to be around him, then she can look into more serious options like getting a restraining order. The difference between this guy and your ex-wife's creeper is that this guy was never told he was making her uncomfortable. Your ex-wife's creeper was told to back the fuck off yet he kept…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 04:33 AM
1

Affirmative action says you have to hire a poorly qualified black man over a well-qualified white man. Equal opportunity says that you hire the person with the best qualifications, it doesn't matter their race or sex. Plain and simple.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 04:26 AM
3

Well he obviously was going to do that anyway. If he continues to pursue her despite her clear expression that she doesn't want him near her, then she can pursue more serious methods like a restraining order. She still has a responsibility to make her feelings known.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 02:58 AM
6

It wouldn't have killed her to send him a text saying he was making her uncomfortable, please don't contact her again.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 02:43 AM
6

You mean the post where nearly every person is saying it's not creepy?
/r/MensRights02/09/12 02:04 AM
1

"Rape culture" seems to be the new "it's because I'm black!"
/r/MensRights02/09/12 02:01 AM
8

Seriously, how dare a slightly strange man be interested in me? He should just know he doesn't meet my standards. It's not my job to tell him I don't like him. /s
/r/MensRights02/09/12 12:57 AM
6

I see askreddit threads from women all the time asking what to do about a cheating SO, they usually get the same kind of response. No pitchforks. Here's an example, and another one, and another. And here are a few askreddit threads that are similar to the one you posted, but with the genders swapped. Exact same advice, no pitchforks. You're calling out a double standard that doesn't really exist, or at the very least isn't particularly common.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 12:26 AM
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That's what child support is for. It's supposed to be used to help provide for the financial needs of the children. It's one thing if she's spending all of the support money on crack and Prada bags, it's quite another if she's using it to feed and shelter the children. I hold men receiving child support to the same standard. Most people here are okay with child support as long as it's a reasonable amount based off of income instead of some arbitrary number that is impossible to meet, the one pay…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 12:14 AM
7

Am I the only one who thinks it's a good thing they aren't busting out the pitchforks? OP obviously wants coherent advice, not emotionally charged garbage.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 12:09 AM
1

You make a fair point.
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