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Question For Meneleventwenty2/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:18 PM
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CMVeleventwenty2/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:29 PM
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Yes. All I see is the reddit hivemind kicking in like it usually does to parrot the sane responses for fear of going against the grain. Don't believe everything you see online. It's a warped microcosm of our most intense and extreme aspects of humanity. It helps your growth and wellbeing when you start objectively looking around in life for answers anf without bias. Some of the problems still exist but it's a lot easier to understand them and more nuanced the more you learn about thr world outsi…
/r/MensRights18/04/24 03:09 PM
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I stand by what I said, personally yeah i have thrown away and deleted everything like that when leaving past relationships. I don't like being reminded of it, and things are just things anyways. children is a more delicate matter sometimes but the justice system definitely needs a reform in many ways, including the favorable to the mother thing in parental court. Memories are a part of life everyone has to learn to cope with if they affect you, can't do much about that. Usually they get forgott…
/r/MensRights17/04/24 11:07 PM
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I don't think people generally agree anyone keeping anything from an ex is ok lol. It's a pretty generally accepted belief. Some people are of course manipulative and will try to justify this, doesn't make them right. And it's not gender specific either
/r/MensRights16/04/24 08:23 PM
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Welcome to American post capitalist and Christian based society. It's so ingrained in so many people that men are dirty and dumb and work hard and that's it that people have forgotten all the other myriad of things men are. Living in Europe really opened my eyes to this, I'm not sure if I saw any men's only gyms when I was there but definitely steps in the right direction such as paternal leave up to a year and a half, no social judgement for men doing what American considers "feminine" for what…
/r/MensRights08/03/24 05:23 PM
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Baby steps, humanity has never been good at catching up
/r/MensRights04/03/24 09:13 PM
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As a woman I would have to agree with most of this. There are definite trends due to our social circumstances which makes vetting good people harder thus this sometimes complicated process. Here's to hoping our cultural communication can improve to a point where relationships can be approached much more bluntly. Living in Sweden I saw a stark difference in how relationships were formed, therrs just less anti social/creepy men to ruin if for the normal guys there so girls are less jaded and gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:21 PM
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For myself, i guess personality; the values I saw and liked in my husband compared to the men around him was humility, self assurance, a playful and teasing sense of humor, compassion for those feeling left out and he is someone always willing to engage in conversation and offer his genuine/honest opinion. Goes out of his way to help people and is protective of those he loves. Very curious and creative minded and likes discussing wild concepts and topics with me. Generally a really solid human b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:29 PM
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I would argue the right to vote is a basic right all adults should have as long as they contribute to society by working or raising kids. If someone is living on welfare with no plan to change I don't think they should get a vote but anyone else I think deserves that right. I believe this was the main point of suffrage in the first wave. Every scholarly resource I refer to says the same thing. That's what I'm referring to specifically. Not sure how being able to vote is opportunism for some but …
/r/MensRights06/07/23 03:47 PM
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Yeah idk why people seem to be terrified of discomfort. It's a very normal part of life and for most organisms, most of their life. Why do we as humans feel the need to be special to thr point of trying to negate this very normal experience? It will never work lol people need to learn speaking your mind honestly and humbly is 100x more worth it than walking on eggshells to not make someone uncomfortable, within reason of course. Straight up bullying is regressive but being straight forward amd t…
/r/MensRights06/07/23 03:38 PM
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Yeah thank you. The name has lost all meaning and people tack the word on to a multitude of contradictory and ironic associations. In thr 70s it had a purpose and once those needs were met, corporations swooped in to farm new discourse to push into media for profit. As a woman I can strongly say what feminism has morphed into is serving nobody at this point and doing more harm than good by ignoring truths and creating echo chambers for emotional validation.
/r/MensRights06/07/23 03:35 PM
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We need true egalitarianism but north America is light Years away from reaching that goal
/r/MensRights06/07/23 03:32 PM
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Nothing surprises me anymore, every day I am shocked by some new bs. I can say that as a woman I don't live in constant fear. I obviously have to keep my wits about me slightly more than the average man and I have experienced negative and unwanted sexual harassment in my life which naturally creates a hesitation and defensiveness in some contexts, but I think the extreme/radical side of feminism speaks to a blanket statement painting the issue as broader than it really is and reducing it to men …
/r/MensRights05/07/23 01:37 PM
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Yeah more or less. The problem is these young men are seeing the most extreme, fanatical and heinous people representing anything that once had to do with feminism; this corruption of the thing that was once basic womens rights is now a Cronenberg of what it once was. Since feminism and the gay rights movement didn't have a direction after their initial requests were answered by the public, corporations saw opportunity for gain, started fabricating new avenues for their benefit and profit which …
/r/MensRights04/07/23 08:49 PM
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I've yet to ever come across even a slightly radical feminist irl, and I would classify this as extremist radicalism. They seem to only exist online in echo chambers and in extremely progressive American cities
/r/MensRights04/07/23 06:11 PM
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My personal preference for male body type is "slender" like Tyga or MGK, I find this the most attractive and attainable. I think a lot of straight women (I'm bi) see gender binary as a rigid thing whereas people like me see it as a grey area, so they expect extremes. A man is an regardless of his muscle mass andt he doesn't have to look or be a certain way to be a man. I hate stereotypes and misinformation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:49 PM
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I totally understand which is why I try to offer an open discussion about that kind of thing to help fight that threat of persecution
/r/MensRights24/06/23 06:28 PM
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As a woman who works with men in the trades, I wouldn't even notice lol. It's work. Shit happens. I wouldn't think twice about it. Everyone is different, but i would say you're most likely probably in the clear bud. Next time if something lile that happens usually a quick "sorry!" Is good enough:) autism definitely makes social situations difficult, I struggle too and misread things a lot and it can be stressful. You're all good though bro
/r/MensRights24/06/23 12:50 PM
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I didn't know that, thought it was the same for both genders honestly but thanks for letting me know
/r/MensRights24/06/23 11:59 AM
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Really? In what ways? I lived in Sweden for a year and noticed a pretty big difference socially but that was several years ago so maybe things have changed
/r/MensRights21/06/23 05:22 PM
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We have caught up in literal terms socially but the conversation socially has not yet caught up leaving us in this limbo where nobody benefits shit. I wish we were more like European countries that actually operate on the basis of egalitarianism slightly more and the conversation there isn't nearly as much of a hot topic because in America we're only just figuring out how to be proper humans, and the amalgamation of people from all different walks of life and divisive and petty opinions means th…
/r/MensRights21/06/23 01:45 PM
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You're making a false correlation here. Usually, promiscuous people are promiscuous for a reason, usually some kind of trauma. Usually, the way people self soothe this trauma is to take control over the situations where previously they had none, and basically reenact it sometimes but on their own terms. Not trying to generalize but trying to cover an alternate perspective based on statistics : With this in mind, try to approach the conversation you heard differently. Woman A has had less sex pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:40 PM
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Because humans ability to critically think and view things objectively is being lost through the abuse of the internet for all our communications. It's reductionistic and it's severely hurting our abilities to function. Egalitarianism, my core belief is basically non-existent and discussing any points through this lens gets you shit on from both major sides of the shitshow with maybe a few people chiming in to say Yeah finally someone who makes some sense
/r/MensRights17/06/23 07:00 PM
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Yeah exactly, same toxic separatist mindset. There always is but sometimes there's shitty consequences along with the breaking point but it should even out eventually or flip back to another extreme :/ I want to move to Mars lol
/r/MensRights17/06/23 06:43 PM
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Yeah fr like do they want us to see them as helpless losers or as confident men making their own choices?? I think a virgin man deserves the exact same respect as a virgin woman. Don't see why that would even be questioned but maybe my way of thinking is unusually egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:06 PM
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As a woman I fully agree. Even learning to be a good person is hard when your role models and examples you've been presented with aren't even good to begin with. Humanity goes to extremes constantly and I wish we would figure out some kind of balance already.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 04:04 PM
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No offense at all taken lol I fully agree it's fetishization. I think it's similar but the way women and men socialize in different ways slightly changes how these interactions happen.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 03:38 PM
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I have no idea, tried to understand throughout my life but havent understoid it yet. It makes women like myself look bad first of all and also makes gay men feel objectified which is what those same women will complain about from straight men. It's kind of wild and another reason I can't stand straight north american culture bc nobody really benefits
/r/MensRights15/06/23 04:02 PM
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Straight* women lol, as a bi woman it's always severely bothered me seeing girls kiss for attention at parties or fetishizing gay men. It's definitely a thing and i think it's pretty nasty
/r/MensRights15/06/23 01:40 PM
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Yeah for sure, didn't think about it when I typed it. Fully agree with you though
/r/MensRights12/06/23 04:05 PM
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That's a crazy theory actually. I hate the fact that mens sensitivity has been ignored in both emotional and physical ways for the sake of production and monetary growth of the rich. Crazy how much it affects everything. Medical industry probably makes money off the people who still believe in circumcision and make no effort to dispel the myths
/r/MensRights12/06/23 11:27 AM
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Obligatory I'm a woman but in my experience with my ex vs my husband, my husband who is uncut seems to appreciate when I give him head about 10x more and overall for myself and him sex is a better experience than it ever was with my ex for me. Also your dick will have less or no issues with anything you mentioned cut men deal with, so if I were a guy I wouldn't see any point to it. Its a pretty invasive cosmetic procedure with a heavily religious connotation and physical possibly mental conseque…
/r/MensRights12/06/23 11:22 AM
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That's the social outcome of the evolution yeah. It's a shitty one and is in dire need of reversal in some ways. Humanity is never good at finding balance and we have an affinity for destruction and extremism. Men's suicide rates is the reason I'm more anxious to have a son than a daughter when I do have children. Psychological science studies mostly men, but applies mostly to women in a therapy context since we haven't found an effective way to foster that missing link of men's communication he…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 12:07 PM
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I am quite centrist and egalitarian, so I disagree with both gender based ideologies at their core, but I understand the reason for their existence and there are some very valuable points to each. It's extremism/radicalization that is the cockblock to genuine social progress. So basically yes I do when the context applies and if I see someone shitting on men unfairly or through a certain political lens
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:33 AM
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Fully agreed. This is a western issue besides some countries in the east that face similar suicide rates but for different reasons. And celebrating peolles death is never helping anyone. We should be looking at ways to uplift and support men better instead of cheering over the downfall of others it's counterproductive
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:14 PM
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A corrosive atmosphere of misogyny doesn't mean it's men's fault. Plenty of women are misogynistic as well, and there are misandrist men. It's an ideology that is irrespective of gender. Sure there may be more male mispgynosts than female, but I don't think those people fairly represent all men, and therefore making this correlation is actually doing Men a disservice by assuming misogynist = man.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:13 PM
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Maybe if you phrased this differently you would understand it differently. Men and women both have severe mental health struggles. However the socialization of either gender and their respective social roles is very rigid in north America. Another place with these rigid ideals is China or Japan, both of which also have very high suicide rates. The outcome is this: women have been more socialized but only among other women since back then the men worked and the women did housework separately. Bc …
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:10 PM
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Yeah because our social climate in the west has reached communal puberty and is starting to develop past bare basics of survival. The west is behind the east (parts of Asia and europe) in many ways and this is one of them that is only now starting to change whereas this happened in the east 20+ years ago for the most part. Men aren't providers anymore because of capitalism in the west and because of the aforementioned phenomenon. In a society Structured around community, this can be more sustain…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:15 PM
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Somepeople can't argue without injecting personal experience or bias
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:06 PM
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Yeah I think that's a good way to put it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:35 AM
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I read all this and only see a dog biting his own tail. You indicate the failure of marriage as our culture is right now, and indicate some of the reasons leading to this outcome. Then you instead of providing solutions or possible ways to accommodate the new way of life, refer back to the way things have been in history and attempt to apply them to current day society which inevitably will fail. Time will not go backwards and although we may be cyclical in our tendency to repeat patterns social…
/r/MensRights05/05/23 02:49 PM
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Relationships shouldnt be entered on a basis of gaining something anymore, and I think thats the problem people are facing. Women are still seeking financial and social benefit and men are still seeking sexual and social benefit I assume. If people are whole and fulfilled before seeking out these things in another person, the relationship is actually worth it for both parties and enriches their lives instead of burdening it. Only get married if and when your partner is showing clear and consiste…
/r/MensRights05/05/23 01:46 PM
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My point is financially specifically it hasn't benefited men. Marriage can still benefit both parties in the way you stated besides the idea of maintaining your family genes because we have evolved as a species past the point of simply maintaining our existence and we have expanded our sexual attraction due to this. And you're correct we don't need marriage to shape a partnership. However, today it is widely seen as a leftover tradition that still holds value even in secular countries. We don't …
/r/MensRights05/05/23 01:40 PM
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Fair enough. Would it then be a fair argument to state at least 60% of people are in general shitty for the above reasons? Because I think its close enough to the truth to follow it and to really choose people we spend time with or get into any type of relationship with very wisely. I keep seeing men saying women don't choose good men, which is fair, but I would argue the same goes for men not choosing good women, and the cycle keeps going with shitty parenting.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 07:25 PM
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In that case we could also argue the rate of which men are sexually coercive or abusive but generalizations don't help anyone.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 06:25 PM
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It may not financially benefit but from the general perspective it never has. Marriage is about partnership and signing up for being someone's life partner, supporting them and aiding them in any way you can and vice versa. Live isn't worth living unless we have someone to share it with usually. That's the benefit. On that note, in this day and age it's impossible to expect anyone to survive off a single income, it's actually not feasible at all. So the people who still expect this archaic treat…
/r/MensRights04/05/23 06:24 PM
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Maybe lazy listless women, my husband and I make good sure that we are both financially independent and can also support each other. In the year 2023 if someone is trying to leech off you kick them to the curb - nobody got time or energy for that. Depending on another human for any single thing is infantile
/r/MensRights04/05/23 06:22 PM
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Yeah but the people they're having sex with... are men no? Shouldn't everyone just have less sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:37 AM
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I would agree a woman fetishizing a man on looks alone is definitely creepy. Finding a man attractive on top of other traits one finds attractive is more normal. Same with young women, if age and looks it's the main objective it's weird, and if it's a welcomed bonus it's normal imo. And in the case of a 40 year old man dating a 30 year old woman I would say being 30 gives you 12 years over someone who is 18 and therefore is a better adult partner for anyone over that age. And if it was reversed …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:24 AM
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Curious what you feel makes you high value besides income? Because I believe income is important sure but only a part of a whole for most women. I'm glad you found someone you're happy with and I would agree with the last sentence besides recommending other men to go for younger women as well. If it's just preference why would you need to give that as advice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:02 PM
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Ok well in that case fair enough, seems it's just another case of the few who ruin it for the many. And probably due to today's hyperinformational age we see it more and more and assume it's happening more when it's just being displayed more. Obviously science is not all knowing it's always attempting to prove new truths that's the entire point. That aside it's widely agreed upon as fact that the prefrontal cortex has to do with decision making and correlated things and therefore can be referred…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:00 PM
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Why are you only referring to women? There is hard data to back up the fact that males under 25 have a higher rate of accidents than any other group in reference to insurance providers. Humans are not fully developed until 25 and can and will make poor or ill-informed decisions before then and after of course but predominantly so in thr first 25 years of life. Knowing this, it is indicative of an ulterior motive when someone says they willingly seek out people not yet at this point. People can d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:50 PM
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What kind of figures are you making so that you can't expect anyone to match your level? Millions? Lol. Why not look for a woman who makes the same income so you can both live comfortably without depending on the other? Why not go for someone older but more mature and level headed and normal? Why go for someone irrational, inconsistent and still has lots of growing to do? Generally speaking of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:12 PM
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It's not a meme lol. But go off I guess. Do you even know what the prefrontal cortex is responsible for? Maybe research these things before calling them memes and generalizations. Science exists for a reason. And I would argue that class advantages are just as disparaging. Someone in a less fortunate position may want to date someone Financially more secure, but this relationship will ultimately be based on this concept and never usually be a truly fulfilling and loving relationship. One person …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:09 PM
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You are correct I have not been to post secondary at all. Therefore the people I interact with at blue collar jobs are likely not the demographic you speak of that have the means and funds to attend 4 years of paid partying. Maybe that's the difference. People I talk to in my age group of 25 are having famili3s, owning houses, starting careers. Idk if this I'd the best approach either but it shows a definite cultural pushback. But your prefrontal cortex doesn't finish developing until 25. How ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:03 PM
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So what I'm hearing is... you would prefer to be with someone who is not an equal partner that can provide challenges and opportunities for growth, but rather with someone who is inexperienced and easily moldable to your liking?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:00 PM
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Life experience lol. Not trivial experience. I'm talking about understanding your own brain. Your prefrontal cortex being fully formed for starters. Understanding intrapersonal relationships. Understanding when things are a big deal and when they really aren't. You can talk about anything with anyone, but that doesn't make it appropriate. I teach kids music now and I'm sure any of them (all under 12) would be Ble to hold a conversation about any of the topics you stated but it doesn't change the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:17 PM
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Well... that speaks to the severe lack of support we have. Either way, those people are outliers. On average an 18 year old is going to focus on impressing peers, seeking out adrenaline and fun and figuring out who they are as a human being. No amount of "maturity" will change biology of the human brain and the effect of experience and time. Their prefrontal cortex won't be fully formed for another 6 years at 18. It's an irrefutable fact. Those people who are stunted are absolutely not viable da…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:13 PM
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Yeah its easy to intentionally or unintentionally manipulate a younger person even if they seem "mature"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:11 PM
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Wouldn't both parties be equally shitty lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:10 PM
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Don't you find a huge disparity between life experience and talking points? 18 year Olds have hardly any life experience or maturity to speak of and I don't understand the appeal there at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:01 PM
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You do realize there's usually a good reason they're single right
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:10 PM
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Why do you aim for people almost a decade younger than you our of curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:09 PM
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I'm 24, I find women who are more tomboyish to be attractive, generally down to earth, not preoccupied with trivial or surface level things. Purely physically idk I guess generally i find any age of women attractive, as long as theyre well proportioned, not overweight, clean and hygienic, and if they have a unique or individual sense of style/hair/makeup that's always a plus for me as well. Edit: didn't realize this was asking men's opinions lol discount mine if you please
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:09 PM
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Bruh I work blue collar with 90% men and have for years. I definitely see them. And hear them. And interact with them. Men socialize so differently from women. They basically act like teenage boys when they're together and this main difference I think is a roadblock for a lot of women understanding men and vice versa. I've struggled with understanding parts of it as well like why men tend to operate based on pride instead of logic, and I've seen more men than women be lazy on site and half ass j…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 11:21 AM
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I guess I won this round 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:53 PM
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Here is a very brief recollection of dating since the 1900s in America. Keep in mind this is a small section of history, and in a specific place in the world. But it clearly lays out the shifts modern dating has gone through, coinciding with time period of wealth meaning more idealistic behaviour based on the ideas of the current time, which were still predominantly Christian or catholic. Since your next point attempts to denounce every instance of recorded history we have, this I'd why I say it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:28 PM
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This is so true and a major reason why I have a distaste for America.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:13 PM
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Having lived in Canada and Sweden I can say there is a difference even between those countries, and having spoke to people that moved from the states, there's an even bigger difference between Canada and the States. So I would argue yes there is absolutely a phenomenon happening in America but not really anywhere else, and it's insane to be people are this self centered to not remember the rest of the fucking world exists where people are varying degrees of normal, and that economy and religion …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:12 PM
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Wow dude you need therapy respectfully lol. This sub is for the purpose of debating, not shitting on one gender or another. This response tells me you have not allowed yourself any degree of nuance, you have extremely rigid and punishing views that directly contradict our recorded science throughout history. Did you ever attend science or history class or are you just making this up as you go? You can say anything you want and tell yourself it's true, but that fact still remains that it is absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:43 PM
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My husband has mentioned this before and it's an excellent example. Most women see men the exact same way as you are describing when they hit on them like this. It feels animalistic and tribal and not the behavior of a civilized human therefore its immediately unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:14 PM
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I think with revelation comes weaponization and exploitation. Every time humanity learns a new skill or gains knowledge, we utilize it against each other and it loses its importance really fast that way, we forget how important it is and we ignore it for a new novel method only to repeat the cycle over again. Think of our parents generation - mental health was a joke. Depression was an excuse, anxiety was something everyone had. Now that cultural science has reached the conclusion that these are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:11 PM
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Is it as simple as being one genders sole fault? I really don't think so. It's economy. In the 1950s it was post ww2 which meant a time.of economic revival. People felt rich. Men could work and support a whole family and their wives could be SAHM. That mindset stayed around for decades, longer than any other way of life historically. Initially the catholic Influence in ancient Greece and Rome instigated this, which was recorded by "prophets" and transcribed over different languages and interpret…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:47 PM
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My point is yeah they may initially get sex easier, but will not get fulfilling relationships, which is the end goal is it not? And I'm saying the way women behave in response to the way men behave is what leads to this outcome. People are told things through observing and reacting to behaviour, not by directly being told, like i said actions speak louder than words. Everyone enjoys having sex, besides those who are asexual or have libido issues for whatever reason. Enjoying something doesn't co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:04 PM
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I keep seeing this sentiment but I think people ignore the core reason for it. I guess in straight culture surrounding me I have seen some examples of this, but never without social repercussions. Those type of women are always labeled a slut, usually by other women, further ostracizing them from strong female to female relationships and further catering to the narrative they are described as. I think once a woman is in that lifestyle it's almost impossible to return to a more conservative or pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:17 PM
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I have to agree with you here. It seems people are unaware of or ignorant to the fact that economy and war are the major drivers of social change. Petty arguing about outcomes only drives these issues deeper and ignores the issues altogether. If we really want to solve these issues we need to understand that A.) The 90s and early 2000s was a unique and very free time for humanity in the west, and we still strive for that while our political and economic climate is nowhere near that of how it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:27 PM
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Why do you believe it to be "easier" and what does the word easy mean to you in that context? Because I feel we may have very different understandings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:00 PM
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No its not lol. Why do you think there's this mess in the first place? Do you really think half the population is excluded from this? Social issues are always complex and consequential of other factors such as economy and war. Women have just as hard of a time just faced with different challenges. If women had it easy, there would be no debate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:12 PM
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It shows competence and partnership. Nobody wants to be with someone who is a burden to them, especially not in this economy. Single income sustainability long gone. Economy and war drives social change almost every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:02 PM
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How is this proven? Is it not a possibility that these women do love you but are unaware of their inability to show love and act through love?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:57 PM
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Lol I don't care. I probably have very different needs from his ex anyways so why should I be upset if we were treated differently? And to speak to the example in the post, sleeping with someone sooner usually indicates a lack of serious feelings. So if some man is really upset about that he's stupid lol bc that's her way of showing he is more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:47 AM
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I'm not a parent either, just married and talking about future possible kids and currently trying to fine tune my understanding of manhood and womanhood so I have good advice for either gender child we may have
/r/MensRights13/04/23 05:59 PM
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Yeah thats my point
/r/MensRights12/04/23 11:17 PM
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Yeah I didn't even include the daughters bc to me that's a given. As a woman I feel a strong responsibility to teach my daughters the right way to exist, behave and carry themselves. Should have mentioned it still because yeah of course it always takes 2 sides. And it's not about gender when it comes down to it, comes down to shitty family cycles. I just feel more understanding of what I would need to teach my daughter than I would a son since I'm not a man and don't have the same experience
/r/MensRights12/04/23 11:15 PM
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Right, so therefore raising our sons to be better is the only really viable solution, no? I want to reach some kind of actual framework for these changes to be reflected in our culture. I feel like online is a separate world from real life as well, and I feel like these discussions happen predominantly more frequently in the online sphere making these issues almost seem hyperbolic when discussed with such intensity here. How do you recommend bridging that gap in real life? And for myself as a wo…
/r/MensRights12/04/23 07:47 PM
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Yeah I guess you're right, it's just so discouraging seeing the vast majority of people seemingly act like a hivemind and lack critical thinking or objectivity with these kinds if things so I get hopeful. Humanity has never been good at maintaining balance in any aspect and in this area it is blindingly obvious how drastically things change and compound. I just want there to be an easy solution but I think the only solution is raising the next generation to think differently
/r/MensRights12/04/23 07:39 PM
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Good to hear :)) my little brother is 18 now and turning out to be a pretty sick kid too. Hopefully this next generation will get a bit closer to that utopia :')
/r/MensRights12/04/23 06:08 PM
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Thank you! I'm glad to see people understand how feminism is a shell of its former self lol therefore why I don't associate with that concept at all. And yes lol they should, I will be sure to teach my sons to treat themselves with respect first and understand women are just people with different body parts
/r/MensRights12/04/23 05:31 PM
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As a woman I understand the hardships of being a man are very different from being a woman. However this isnt even gender specific i would argue. When did she ever claim victim status? She is lamenting the frustrations of the reality we live in and the actions she takes in order to benefit while having to deal with the negatives. If a man had an interview about working with middle aged women and how he got more tips when he is polite and personable even when they are creepy, would you feel the s…
/r/MensRights12/04/23 05:29 PM
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Lol dude if men didn't tip her she wouldn't do it. If you see a way to make more money are you going to let your morals dictate your decision? Or are you going to take the money and suck yp the shitty parts? A lot of people willingly take advantage of any opportunities they have financially because they may not get another one even if it doesn't align with their personal values. Jobs are very rarely personal lol everyone has bills to pay. Men need to stop giving women attention for existing, and…
/r/MensRights12/04/23 05:19 PM
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I can speak on this. As a woman who hates this structure I refuse to take advantage of it, however my sisters have no problem getting hundreds of dollar of tips from old guys at the bars they work at. I see it as an organism taking advantage of a beneficial situation. At its core it isn't malicious its just circumstantial. But it is necessary to pay attention to these customs and the effects they have on our culture, and the inverse, and to not simply rake advantage every time an opportunity ari…
/r/MensRights12/04/23 05:16 PM
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Bc even after being confronted with her sentence (which wasn't long enough IMO) and overwhelming video evidence she STILL tries to say it happened. Normal well adjusted people don't do that kind of shit so they refer to her as a fantastist because she apparently hasn't been diagnosed with any mental illness. Either way she definitely has some severe mental issues and her lack of remorse to me is a huge red flag of something underlying much worse that just being "fantasy driven"
/r/MensRights31/03/23 04:01 PM
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Redpill misses out on actual tactics for bettering yourself beyond physicality. Where is the mental health and wellbeing aspect of the redpill? Because I almost never see that addressed. Therefore the redpill to me, is an extremist ideology like the blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:31 PM
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Another bi chiming in to agree
/r/MensRights29/03/23 03:07 AM
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As a bisexual woman married to a man I would never ever even think of doing that lol. We have discussed having threesomes perhaps so then everyone wins but that's fully consensuL lol this girl is just a cheater
/r/MensRights29/03/23 03:05 AM
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The creepy men paint the picture. The human brain is most attuned to fear over almost anything else. It will respond to a threat before it responds to a benefit. If there is a perceived threat, which our minds are very good at creating to try to protect us, we will also treat it as a real threat. This is how humans usually fall victim to black and white thinking and falling into usually one of two major parties of thought. To answer your question: The majority of women, myself included, have com…
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:29 PM
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I think the issue is those creeps paint the picture for everyone else with more innocent desires. As a woman I've had to vet a lot of people in terms of how they treat me and if it's because they view me as a "pure young woman" or not. The fact is the majority of men probably mean they want someone that is physically attractive and stereotypically feminine, which is attributed to purity. Purity however is a concept, not a reality within humans. How would one even measure purity? It differs from …
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:22 PM
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Not people in social media trying to get views. Seek out philosophers, social and behavioural analysts, scientists, legal representatives, spokespeople, people with valid opinions in context to their field. Gather these opinions and form your own opinion. Stop trying to follow in someone else's footsteps Edit: also look into stoicism and other ancient concepts
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:33 PM
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Not at all in fact I think it's an excellent thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:42 PM
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Yeah exactly
/r/MensRights16/03/23 03:32 PM
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Well he could have done so as a self preservation tactic which makes a lot.of sense because sometimes after painful moments we have the urge to reach back out to people who wronged us. At the end of the day he chose to block her she didn't cause him to do anything. He has autonomy
/r/MensRights16/03/23 01:46 PM
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What was the situation of the relationship leading up to this point? Why did you leave her?
/r/MensRights16/03/23 01:11 PM
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I asked a thread about this kind of topic if you want some varied answers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:28 AM
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Tldr I read your entire reply lol but to answer your question, I would absolutely take the latter. I have a husband and I'm very happy with him so dknt see any further reason for men to ever see me that way other than him and it's only been a hindrance in many ways to me. The "good things" in life don't come free. I know I'm not a man and never will be but I personally just feel more comfortable acting slightly more androgynous or masculine than the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:31 AM
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Ok fair enough. I may have misunderstood your point there. I think its healthy to an extent but I think that line has been blurred. Young men are being fed sexual images and concepts surrounding them signaling status from childhood, I know this because even as a female I saw a lot of shit (and porn) online before I was even 12. The accessibility and normalization is causing a lot of young men to expect it to be easy to get sex, or at the very least puts a lot more pressure on them to perform sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:55 PM
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I think you kind of hit the nail on the head, I definitely have experienced a lot of the things you mentioned, for example the confusion between attraction to men as well as wanting them to recognize my similarities to them in some ways lol. My husband is a very beautiful man in my opinion but he also definitely represents raw masculinity to me, he is very playful and laughs loudly, presents as very confident and with a strong moral compass, has a slender but muscular figure and he's quite tall …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:45 PM
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Wow my friend I think you have a really unique perspective and I really respect it. I would hang out with people like you since it seems you have a more thorough understanding for human existence and all the nuance and diversity that is within that. Thank you for sharing your mind here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:53 AM
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That seems pretty accurate without looking at any stats lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:53 PM
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I agree with the fact thay monogamy is artificial, but I also agree with the existence of constructed morals that direct our choices and our social outcome as a whole. I'm non theistic as well so that doesn't come into play for me. I simply see it as a disciplinary choice. Same as indulging in anything, too much is a bad thing. Food, drugs, sex are the top 3 offenders usually. Aside from that, men still have an instinct to protect their bloodline and I think most straight men would absolutely no…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:53 PM
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It is very true that we want what we can't have. I've I've trying to gain full appreciation for the things I've despised in myself over the years and to become a whole person. It's hard sometimes to see these advantages when media and culture is feeding you a specific narrative which sucks. (Ie: young men never get hired for jobs anymore, or young women will always be sexually harassed, etc) Personally I can't relate to the idea of wanting someone to do your life for you, because that removes th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:50 PM
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Yeah we kind of did the steps in reverse lol so we do have a lot of conversations and we have already been through a brief period of marriage counseling to help see the other side better. We have sex on a pretty frequent basis at very least 2 times a week, at the most 8 times, and I try to be in tune with myself as much as possible to maintain a consistent schedule while also maintaining boundaries and not being resentful when I haven't been clear with those. That is something I was unfortunatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:45 PM
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Hahahha! See this is what I think people expect when I say I had mostly male friends growing up, but in my experience I was treated as "one of the boys", got the same chirps, played sports, spent time outdoors and played around with vehicles and tools, etc. Basically I had common interests. That's personally what I base a friendship off of, as well as some level of emotional chemistry. So to me, it seems like this woman is emotionally immature and though she may think she's expressing a level ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:40 PM
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Fair, same with women in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:30 PM
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This is a really pretty true. It's like men think about sex more broadly and opportunistically and women think of it more contextually and selectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:29 PM
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Lol everyone fucks, but not everyone talks about it shows it and encourages it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:28 PM
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Damn that is very interesting! I'll look into Hoover and I'm hoping the test keeps working for your wife! Not sure if they do low dose injections for that kind of thing but I know they do for adrenal issues and other such hormonal problems
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:27 PM
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Yesss i think this is a crux of the issue. A lot of women and men respectively don't view the opposite sex as people with different genitals but rather like another species who they don't even attempt to understand, which is a weak minded outlook imo. We as women definitely get the upper hand in a lot of dating and sexual scenarios and I'm looking forward to humility returning to femininity in North America because it is important. Some people like myself often wishes they weren't seen as a sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:26 PM
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Fair enough! Thanks for this perspective. The way you and some.others have said it gives me the impression women initiating sexual based conversation or flirting is what instigates further intimacy, which is kind of ironic since feminist rhetoric will say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:23 PM
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That's interesting, for me it's the opposite I kind of crave the chase of discovering someone's vulnerable side lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:21 PM
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Yep I think that's it, country wide vicious cycle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:20 PM
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Yes man!! That's whag I love to hear, taking your sexual autonomy back and feeling fully in control Sex is really important to feel comfortable and strong in and I'm glad you're doing these things for yourself, I agree porn is difficult to abstain from, I wish it was more regulated at least to something kind of like onlyfans, because it can get so addicting and exploitative. Yes you are right unfortunately in this day and age we are facing a lot of greed in the world, and things have been going …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:19 PM
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You had me until the third part lol. Surely you can't argue that point with moral justification because in that case, I could argue that I as a bi woman married to a man should be able to sleep with other women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:15 PM
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Yeah sorry I am referring to north America. And idk if it's just puberty, since I didn't think about anything close to that at the time. If it's supposed to happen naturally why didn't it happen to me until I was put into a social environment which normalized it after the initial culture shock? Sure they could behave themselves but why act like that as a child at any point? Its disturbing to me honestly and shows the ruining of peoples childhood. My little brother who was also homeschooled obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:13 PM
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Hahaha unintentional troll but lol 😂 fair enough, I think men kind of go for quantity whereas women go for quality, generally speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:09 PM
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Yeah thats why personally i shy away from any specific gender based ideology because it always ignores or omits certain truths and creates a narrative or bias. The facts are what matters lol Thanks for the study! I'm bisexual so part of this is me trying to understand where I fit on on the spectrum of feminine/masculine and I definitely can relate to both sexes in certain contexts, depending on which gender I'm feeling more attracted to lol. But this also means I don't have a full picture of how…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:08 PM
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Hahahhaha this was pretty funny
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:02 PM
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Yeah like I was saying to another commenter I've been really interested in learning about people's journeys through transition and HRT because I think it's a window into understanding the opposite sexes lived experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:01 PM
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Could you explain what pluralism is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:00 PM
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I'm really trying to understand how it feels for young men in this day and age because a lot has changed for them, and I want to know how to best support my husband and little brother as well as any sons I might have in future. I fully hear what you're saying though. I feel like it could be very frustrating having a higher sex drive than other people namely women and in the straight world, that's kinda the whole point lol. Plus people forget I think boners are a physical thing too and doesn't ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:00 PM
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Yeah this is true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:57 PM
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I agree, but I think humanity can never outright ban anything because we always find ways around it and I think people choosing to do it privately causes less harm overall since the poen industry is very exploitative
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:11 AM
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Are you being serious or satirical genuine question lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:33 PM
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Yes compared to Europe because even in Europe every country has their own more concrete social values whereas western culture is a homogenous mix of lots of things that don't really work together. I see just the way men and women interact and how it reinforces stereotypes. I literally couldn't believe my ears when I went to high school for the first time from being homeschooled and heard people talking about their "kill list" and how many grade nine girls they had on their list so far. Then I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:32 PM
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I'm trying to pinpoint the difference between femininity and masculinity and I think the major general difference is masculinity is opportunism and femininity is selectivism, to me at least
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:34 PM
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This is actually super interesting and informative. I've also been really into learning about trans people and their experience with social transition as well as biological (HRT) and the different life experiences they have as a result. I think it's really important to research, objectively and without bias lol. Thank you!! For both links
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:32 PM
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Fair, honestly I'm probably also guilty of that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:31 PM
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That's a good analogy I guess, there's just nothing in life I want that badly but I get what you're saying better than I did before lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:30 PM
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Ahhhh... that's sad. Shouldn't feel guilty about something natural, just be humble about it and appropriate in sharing it. And yeah I think sometimes people assume one or the other because of our hypersexualized culture that promotes resources and hard fact of life over understanding another human being for the person they are, but both simultaneously exist all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:30 PM
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I don't think mine is that common otherwise I wouldn't ask here. And I think the differences are smaller than we nake them out to be socially here in the west. When I lived in Sweden the differences were less pronounced
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:28 PM
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Nice 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:27 PM
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Niiiice hahahha secret foot fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:27 PM
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Yeah I mean use them too but I guess since I don't think about sex as much I'm curious if their jokes come from a difference context or not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:27 PM
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Makes a lot of sense actually
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:26 PM
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Isn't it primarily testosterone? That causes biological differences in men and women? And obviously the chromosomal difference And he does it alllllll the time man, to the point where I feel like I'm never given a chance to initiate anything myself because every chance I get he turns around and takes it instead. So it's kind of annoying because I feel like my sexual autonomy is being bulldozed and he doesn't seem to understand at all or slow this down, thus why I'm asking if it's normal to alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:26 PM
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My husband said some smart shit right after sex and I was like Damn is post nut clarity a real thing he said yeah hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:24 PM
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Yeah and in an effort to not pathologize it I'm trying to understand the difference I guess so I can understand better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:23 PM
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I should have yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:22 PM
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2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:22 PM
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Yeah I don't think many guys have a one track mind, probably the same amount of guys do that as women. I just meant generally the hormonal differences actually influence thought patterns and decision making especially in younger men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:21 PM
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Yeah I think commercial porn is an issue. I almost think only fans is better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:20 PM
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I personally don't believe in any social gender roles, but I'm a bit biased since im bi and see mtself as not having a gender although I know I am a female. So I try to gain an understanding of those concepts and unspoken stereotypes preexisting in the world around me so I have something to refer to since a couple years ago since being homeschooled my opinions were a lot more drastic and uninformed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:20 PM
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I can totally understand that, that's what I assumed that since it's such a heavy stereotype it could get uncomfortable or awkward for straight guys who don't feel as driven by sex or at least don't allow it to make all their decisions. Everyone has a right to individuality which is why I'm trying to break down these stereotypes a bit. I think we attribute a lot more weight than we have to about sex and masculinity over here and we forget about how people are different
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:18 PM
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Yes I think the phenomenon I'm thinking about is localized in the west since I didn't see the same socialization about sex when I lived in Europe. So biology aside I think our culture here has a lot to do with it as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:16 PM
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So would you say it's essentially a combination of biological/hormonal factors as well as social? Thats whag I'm gathering. Because it seems in the west we have a lot of sexually charged speech and jokes etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:15 PM
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Fair enough, I assume it's directly con ected to virility like physically your body is more primed for giving babies in that age range. I guess the hormonal effects on behaviour are kind of like women's hormones during pregnancy or periods
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:13 PM
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I think that's a very general statement so to me it just doesn't hold much weight. It feels like a stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:12 PM
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Oh I hear you on the retired middle ages ladies ahaha they are horrible, my husband has gotten quite a few unwanted advances in his life from those types. I guess my experience is just different in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:10 PM
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So it's kind of just a constant thought in the back of your mind? I can understand how that would lead to a lot of confusion as a teenager especially when talking to girls
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:29 PM
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Yeah I'm wondering how many men fall into the latter category or at least anecdotally what it seems to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:28 PM
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Why can't I as a woman love my partner and also fuck someone else? Why is this trait reserved for men in OPs argument? Can anyone biologically dispute this or is it the same ad hominem gender war arguments I keep hearing nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:28 PM
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You sound like, no offense, a Tater tot right now. I'm hearing his voice echoing throughout your post. I would urge you to find your own personal opinions on this topic since your outlook can greatly influence your dating life. The only thing I'll say to attempt to change your view is this - you are over generalizing and that never truly works in debate because although you may get your point recognized the details that are conflated can change a lot. In terms of bare bones instict driven financ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:26 PM
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Yeah for sure. There are emotionally immature and unavailable people of every gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:18 AM
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I guess you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:26 AM
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Ok I was talking about clinical depression lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:41 PM
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I'm not sure why it's femcel but I am curious which part you're talking about? And I totally agree, I think at its core the true healthy bonds between men haven't existed for a while and it's really important to return to that. It existed in ancient times a lot more prevalently than it does now. My argument was that right now, with men's social health not as high as it could be, women are kind of replacing that meaning men would struggle with forming those social bonds right away but would keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:50 AM
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Fair enough. I just think depression kills because having lived it for many years I know how wicked it can be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:45 AM
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Happiness is a side effect. I'm talking about getting basic deep shit off your chest and having someone who makes you feel at home when you hug them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:44 AM
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I think the term emotional labour is kind of stupid, women are more attuned to emotions/be empathetic naturally if they tap into that side of themselves, but that isn't what they've been told for the last few years. I concede your point that 60% of men survive single however I think they are surviving when they could be living. Either way we need to make our dating culture healthy bc its suffering pretty bad rn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:43 AM
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Yeah and I think this is what we are facing now. A lot of women are using men essentially and encouraged by social media to continue to do so. Even I have realized instances in my life where I accepted this structure around me and allowed it to benefit me instead of pushing back, and I've felt really guilty every time. So now I try to make a point out of recognizing it and how it affects other things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:12 PM
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I would also argue that agriculture is the other pillar of our society which has a similar structure. But my point is the 10-20% of women in those positions are just as Important relatively to the 80-90% of men in those positions. Similarly to how politics work, you can have a huge group of people with a certain ideology but unless they are organized and effective in their movement and unless they have individuals within their group that take action, (in this context such as voting, protesting, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:09 PM
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Yeah I think you nailed it, I guess it's not truly a need outside of reproductive reasons. And I think pointing this kind of thing out is necessary because it identifies where we stand currently, and reflecting on that and the impacts it has socially gives us an understanding of what is a better or worse way to operate based on a lot of factors. It helps us get to an optimal way of living by observation. Kind of like how meta cognition is one of the only ways to truly progress mentally. So I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 07:01 PM
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Of course it would collapse therefore this is a hypothetical based off the current trajectory reflected in our culture. I'm asking for commentary challenging my viewpoint about how men still have a certain dependence on women and so far I haven't really gotten that besides one person That is also an extremely uneducated take lol. Women have most definitely existed in the creation of humanity. Besides the fact that plenty of women have been involved in war times behind the scenes and in theatre, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:24 PM
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Ok and as a woman who partakes in these jobs you're not telling me anything new. I've experienced firsthand the lack of other females in my workplaces (mostly military and construction) but that's at the blue collar level. In all those jobs you listen the likelihood of a woman being in the office shuffling papers is way higher. But the thing is we still need those people. We still need HR, admin, office jobs because yeah sure the majority of men will take care of the physical work on the ground,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:16 PM
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I want to understand how people have such binary thinking on this topic because to me it's not as clear cut as people say, but simultaneously there are truths about the genders which are pretty constant. I think it's hard to pinpoint a clear answer but I think there are trends and patterns we can refer to and therefore draw a conclusion about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:09 PM
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Ok and have you audited the entire roster of the industries you're referring to? Sure there will always be a slight disparity in terms of percentages, but I think in reality we have a lot more women in positions of power than people want to admit. I believe we have equality in the west or at least as close to it as we are going to get before swinging the pendulum back again. Do you not agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:08 PM
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Well I'm sorry to hear that. I can relate since my mother caused a majority of my emotional distress and the only person I feel comfortable talking to about it in detail before I met my husband was my sister and my female best friend since I felt most men weren't able to listen to my issues without taking some of them on to themselves when I just wanted to vent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:04 PM
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That's fair, I'm just trying to flesh out a few core points in my own ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:03 PM
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Having your pain heard and understood to an extent? Not feeling alone? Having someone embrace you and say it's ok and for a minute the rest of the world stops and everything is ok just for a second? Falling into someone's arms when you're broken and exhausted and need someone to hold you up? There are lots of reasons beyond production that humans experience relationships in life. We have lost the philosophical aspect of our existence lately and we focus only on industry. There needs to be a bala…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:02 PM
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This is my point I struggle with lately too. My comment history sums it up pretty well lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:04 PM
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Not reliant on but maybe the lack of men's mental health support leads more men to turn to people they feel close to who are female. I think it's super extremely important that men have healthy supportive communities that encourage them to be healthier and better every day so Im glad to hear that. I also hope this MGTOW stuff sorts itself out and refines in the next few decades to encourage more of that kind of stuff rather than focusing on men vs women, just focus on being men and enjoying it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:02 PM
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Are you gay? Perhaps Just a lot of focus on fucking women even though you don't like them lol kind of confusing me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:59 PM
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Ok I think that's fair to say. I think a lot of women have kind of forgotten the importance of men beyond the physical. The balance is always necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:58 PM
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Ok that may a better way to describe what I meant, thank you. Again, these arguments keep getting rehashed. Like I've said many times in these responses lol who would you be most likely to turn to in tines of emotional distress? A mother figure or your buddy? Maybe I'm wrong, but in my experience and in observing others, typically maternal roles include soothing and being a source of comfort. And yeah clearly things wouldn't run, but I am referring to social influence not physical repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:56 PM
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Yeah exactly. Thank you for being objective and I agree it is a mandatory system rn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:54 PM
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Sure these existed and I am very aware of these beliefs. But along with these was the inherent belief of what a mother is. I don't think that has ever been really questioned. Sure the more surface level attributes may have changed but at its core I believe seeing women as mothers, representative of the womb, is a constant. So therefore it's more likely for someone to turn to a woman if they are in emotional distress than to a man. Am I wrong there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:53 PM
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But it isn't built and run by men... that's what it seems like and that's whay feminists will try to tell you, but in reality women exist in many high positions of power, maybe just not at the forefront or managing the same issues but they definitely exist in the running of the world. You're saying we have a patriarchy here in the western world? Bc I don't agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:51 PM
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I fully agree with you. I just mean with our current framework in place, if every woman disappeared tomorrow type scenario. But yes I fully agree underatandi g how to process and work through emotions gives you immense freedom and I think everyone deserves that right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:49 PM
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As a woman I'm telling you in my experience, from what I've heard from other women, etc. This just isn't the case. If you are a man it might be hard to really truly accept this because you are more hardwired to do things with the end goal of attracting a mate, (a truth which is hard for women to accept) whereas women don't really do things with that end goal in mind as often since it's easier to achieve it, less work goes into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:48 PM
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Copy and pasting a reply I gave to another commenter: I think men's emotions and mental health is astronomically important. In my experience however this isn't supported in day to day life, since other men are uncomfortable talking about things like that, usually the people men end up feeling comfortable talking to about that stuff is usually a woman. Maybe thats their mother, older sister, maybe even significant other. But my point is I don't think many men have a good support system at all, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:45 PM
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I'm married to a man lol but I just think a lot about these kinds of things and I try to present them with objectivity. Not sure if I did that though since I'm being met with a lot of personal inferences but I'm not trying to personalize any of this rn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:44 PM
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So like I've stated to others, I've been doing these jobs. I worked in a kitchen, I was in the military and I now work construction. For me these jobs are a good fit and I enjoy the work and being able to meaningfully and quietly contribute to a greater cause. I understand I am a minority. However I am still a woman. My argument is that women are still, despite our recent social changes, nurturing and provide a source of emotional relief, whereas men are still providing and provide a sense of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:42 PM
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I think negative experiences can taint our outlook on this but I think it's a pretty standard biological fact that women are nurturing and men are providing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:40 PM
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That's kind of what I'm getting at. The men realize a lot sooner the situation whereas the women are still living in their minds. So I guess you have kind of started to change my view a bit because you used my initial point to prove the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:39 PM
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That's kind of what I'm getting at. The men realize a lot sooner the situation whereas the women are still living in their minds
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:39 PM
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Yeah this is also true. When I was first getting to know my husband it was very easy for me to take steps I would absolutely not do to someone I wasn't interested in. With exes I didn't really like in the end, I probably put them through the laundry list without even meaning to bc I felt like I was dating them out of social obligation to seem straight so it was a disingenuous relationship. I think straight women do this too but for different reasons like gaining resources and status
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:18 PM
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As a bisexual I would tend to agree with you but I didn't want to label shit in this argument. Just trying to see it in context of the straight mating world bc if I view it from my own bi perspective, straightness makes 0 fucking sense to me and seems like a bunch of nonsense and jumping through hoops purely for the sake of reproduction, when you could just enjoy life and be hedonistic instead. On that note, hetero momogamy makes even less sense to me but I understand we have these structures be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:16 PM
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Then by that logic I could easily say same for women, since women generally don't even have that high a sex drive, and with economic climate pushing us all to more equal rates of work, it doesn't make sense anymore to say we need men in the future in that case. If were going based of history that's a different argument but just because something has been a certain way doesn't necessarily mean it will continue since we have unknown possible variables. My argument is that with the currently trajec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:13 PM
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No I'm not which is why I said I know I'm the minority. But it has also given me a lot of insight into understanding the male role in society, being immersed in male culture gives me a very different perspective than the average straight female integrated in mostly female spaces. Echo chambers are a real thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:08 PM
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I think you're attributing bias where I didn't ascribe any or at least I didn't intend to. I am referring to a hypothetical scenario and speculating what the outcome would be given our current social climate. I think men's emotions and mental health is astronomically important. In my experience however this isn't supported in day to day life, since other men are uncomfortable talking about things like that, usually the people men end up feeling comfortable talking to about that stuff is usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:07 PM
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Well I've worked in a kitchen, the military and now in construction and I do just fine and never get questioned unless my ability clearly lacks in some area, which is rare but if it happens I recognize my shortcomings and adjust accordingly. I understand I'm not the majority of women, but like I said I think women would have the illusion of safety for a while whereas men would realize the loss sooner. Obviously the world would collapse without either sex in existence. Therefore this is a hypothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:49 PM
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I don't believe it's right or a good thing necessarily, I just think with the way things have changed in recent years women would have an illusion of safety until it shatters in this hypothetical, whereas men would recognize the loss more quickly. I'm talking about mothers, grandmothers sisters and daughters. The women who give you the sense of peace in your life. Not everyone has these people but those who do have a very different perception of women that those who don't. I personally believe w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:44 PM
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Yeah man I think you really summed it up in the last couple paras. It's not personal or on purpose, it just is an effect of changes happening in our culture. Thank you for having some true objectivity my friend that is actually very rare nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:42 PM
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My mom constantly picked screaming fights with me, would constantly call me pathetic and wishes I wasn't born to her, whats wrong with me why am I such a loser, etc. She would also flip and do a 180 and demand to spend 5 hours at a time with me into the early morning since she stayed up till 5 am every morning and still does. During this time would love bomb and gush over how I was "so smart" when in actuality I was undiagnosed ADHD being emotionally manipulated by an raging undiagnosed ADHD adu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:38 PM
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I think bringing it up to counter is useless, it should only be brought up in context of a conversation around how suicide affects either gender differently. Even so however - male and female suicide are slightly different in some ways, but generally the person is hurting astronomically in some way and either wants to release themselves from certain burdens, or they see themselves as that burden and release others from it. Either way, it is detrimental and has negative consequences
/r/MensRights04/03/23 12:47 PM
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Mine is 9 - I was a bit ashamed of my past when I met my husband and it took me a while to be comfortable but I told him the truth. As I am bisexual and came from an emotionally abusive and slightly neglectful homeschool household and immediately joined the military, I think I was very sheltered and didn't know how to act like a normal person, i always saw men as friends and didnt understand how sex and boundaries worked, got overwhelmed and acted on impulse and and my mental health wasn't good.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:08 AM
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Yeah I totally agree. I really dislike the two party majority system we have here in the west. I feel it paints things in black and white and causes a lot of people to lose objectivity or critical thinking. I think you put it very succinctly. I lived in Sweden for almost a year and it was astronomically different socially. It was a few years ago so things may have changed since but generally the attitude is way more homogenous and laid back, way less focus on traits and way more focus on ability…
/r/MensRights03/03/23 11:56 PM
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I agree but I would personally broaden my answer to 50% of people in general. I think a large portion of the population is simply not that smart, and the people who are less educated typically have more children, creating more uneducated people with a penchant for individualism. As our countries go deeper and deeper into economic recession poverty rates increase, debt increases, welfare and other programs come in. But then you're dependent on government and have no motivation to better yourself …
/r/MensRights03/03/23 02:31 PM
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I see your point, I'm just saying that since there is that hypersensitivity around female emotions, I need to hide mine even more than normal expression, because if I show any hint of being "off" people ask questions and show this weird concern that doesn't feel genuine but rather a social obligation. So since the person doesn't really mean it when they say it, they just feel scared because a woman happens to be involved, it makes navigating life extremely precarious for me, because unless I jus…
/r/MensRights02/03/23 03:23 AM
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I've been saying it - divisiveness only breeds more divisiveness!!!! We as a people are incapable of slowing the pendulum and simply allow it to swing back and forth crashing into shit as it goes. This time it's the swing back from feminism and it's not pretty. Neither of them were. It's basically China setting us up for failure through social media meanwhile they are building their empire whole we argue about why we dislike the opposite gender. They are winning lol and this is proof. If everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:36 PM
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Ahh I see. Well I guess I'm lucky lol I grew up with my best friend who follows bah'ai faith pretty heavily and she's who look up to a lot of the time. She doesn't gossip and she is still a virgin, never drank or smoked anything and is really successful in her line of work. A lot of women do gossip I even do sometimes, so do men, but if it's to an extent where it's mean or rude, it comes back to you and a negative way, or she's spreading lies about you then yeah say goodbye because nobody has ti…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 07:55 PM
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Why do you think so many women are shitty today? I have my own opinion on it but I want to know what you think is the reason for it
/r/MensRights01/03/23 07:24 PM
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I guess you need to meet more women then because gossiping is a sin in many religions and for some nontheists as well its considered a shitty thing to do
/r/MensRights01/03/23 07:16 PM
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Not really true, as a woman I've also had to learn how to process and hide many emotions. If I just let them loose there are absolutely repercussions. I am less trusted by peers, family and coworkers, I am seen as a burden and not a source of support, I am seen as unstable and I am a leech of society if I just succumb to my feelings. Hitting throwing and yelling are absolutely unacceptable in any relationship. Not sure why here in the west it's considered ok to abuse your partner if they have a …
/r/MensRights01/03/23 07:14 PM
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Their logic is simply wrong. It's a perversion of the extremist feminist movement that has permeated western and European cultures. In the east they love the fact that we are arguing over this shit while they build a new world. However it is still important and beneficial to focus on these issues for pir own cultures health. Now we are seeing a cultural pushback and seeing the backswing of feminism, where men are seeking the same compassion and understanding. I think its difficult when we just t…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 12:27 PM
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That is toxic and not the type of woman you should stay with. If were going to make the next generation better we have to be very selective when it comes to mating lol
/r/MensRights01/03/23 12:23 PM
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And thats the issue. If they were more honest and straight with themselves, they would feel less shame, and in turn have less issues to bring up in the first place. Personal responsibility is hugely important and that's what makes a man or woman attractive in most cases, showing true competence and that you are someone to be trusted. When you hide parts of yourself, even though it may seem like protecting you, in the end its hurting you because you aren't being your true self and will attract th…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 12:21 PM
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I think the issue is generalizations are being used inappropriately
/r/MensRights01/03/23 12:18 PM
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Centre with some right and left leaning viewpoints depending on context
/r/MensRights28/02/23 12:09 PM
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From this information alone, tom
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:38 AM
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They don't know what they want right now because the western world is going through puberty. In China they are teaching their kids about rocket science and over here we are whining over what each genders roles are. We are losing the global battle because of our shenanigans and its starting to already show how much it's hurting us
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:56 PM
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The way I see it is that it's more complicated than it needs to be currently. If were talking about adults in long term relationships, usually dependable, trustworthy, consistent, mature, strong. When talking about college age kids or teenagers in less serious relationships or just hooking up any age, usually the traits are more superficial, such as looks, possessions, social status, kill count or financial superiority
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:43 PM
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I'm not assuming that at all lol. Not sure why this idea keeps getting suggested. Some women are morons though, like any other group of people. And yeah, those morons will stick to other morons. Unfortunately the majority of humanity is not too smart, and yet they dictate the future of our species. Stupid people have way more kids than smart people. With technology being spoon fed to us and with all the rapid changes in our sociology, this is just been worse and worse lately
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:14 PM
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Because I recognized this when I realized I was bisexual and made an effort to not let my instincts lead. Therefore I've never been in a relationship with a woman but I have spoken to many women about their experience etc. I've observed a lot. I've taken into account a lot. So I mean sure, there's no way for you to know how I cognitively process attraction. But I can tell you for a fact that I don't allow myself to see people through rose colored glasses ever, and I always form opinions after se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:10 PM
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When did I say I was speaking for straight women? I made the distinction between my view and a straight woman's view, however I am still a woman. So although my view won't align with a straight woman's it will still be more similar than to that of a straight man. And if you research these terms you will get similar results. It's common knowledge even though it's frequently ignored, men and women experience sexual attraction in very different ways. In fact there are even studies done on this, one…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:57 PM
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Ok let me sum it up in 2 phrases - the female gaze and the male gaze. If you research these terms you will likely get a more in depth discussion but the basic idea is that either gender doesn't understand the opposite genders way of navigating attraction. For example, Gym bros - they are always complimenting each other on their gains and their looks, they have set goals and achievements within this sphere that themselves and other men care about. However, from a woman's perspective this makes no…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:19 PM
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Exactly, that's what OP is saying. They already have the acceptance so nothing would change
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:49 PM
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Yeah exactly. For me I feel I have to be in my masculine a lot and manage housework, bills, finances and working 8 hrs a day construction. So when we share the workload it makes it easier for me to just exist and to feel sexy and we both get what we want so it's a win win
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:57 AM
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Indirectly - since post war and women being in the workplace more, there's been a slow reform that has recently accelerated. As the work force becomes more and more competitive for men, and as women feel increasingly they either want or need to have a career for financial reasons, resentment begins to breed between the sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:55 AM
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Yeah they for sure can. I'm just saying that shouldn't be accepted as normal and if we can get those types of people out of the gene pool we will all be better off lol. So don't stick your dick in it till it's worth it and watch out for yourself first above anyone else I wasn't calling you an incel, apologies, it was just the terminology you were using. And same, I love men and want the best for them, even if I have a hard time understanding sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:58 AM
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Exactly my point, they don't have the tools through which to process and communicate these things. And women don't even know what they're asking for oftentimes, they just want to feel in control in some way, and therefore will perpetually be pissed instead of only at appropriate times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:39 PM
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Nah I fully believe capitalism is to blame in the west because it pushes consumerism through individualism, which is never good, we have forgotten what community is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:37 PM
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And I'm saying if men are getting into relationships without having worked out there issues first, especially with a woman who also hasn't worked out her issues, the likelihood one such scenarios increases. We are all adults and treating our SO like a parent is instantly unattractive. There's a fine line between sharing your emotions in a mature and responsible way, and spilling them out over and over, expecting the other person to pick up the pieces and put them back together again. I can speak…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:23 PM
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The 1800s lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:18 PM
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Couldn't agree more. Same here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:17 PM
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I'm married but I'll answer from the perspective I had when I met my husband. I wasn't "looking for a man", we started as friends and ended up liking eachother too much and fell in love. The things I immediately noticed was his strong personality, confidence and willingness to stand out from a crowd, his assertiveness, his strong personal morals. And those qualities are ended up leading us to marriage. Helps that he is my type, so in terms of physical attractiveness I find his skeletal structure…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:15 PM
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The phrasing matters, and contextually changes the message. Do you not acknowledge that we use language as our most advanced technologies for communication? Language matters. I understand I am in the minority. However, in my experience I have not seen any real world evidence supporting the claims that women will simply leave when you show emotion, or that their "pussies dry up when Chad cries". In reality if it does happen, there's a lot more context that goes into each situation beyond "Women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:04 PM
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Yeah i do. That statement along with the phrasing used within it, gives me red flags. They aren't approaching the fact with objectivity but rather with a bias which will hurt them more in the end. They are taking something partially true and observing it from a slightly different angle that is not quite correct. Thought this was purple pill not red pill lol. He's making a blanket statement. Blanket statements are never true and believing they are digs yourself into a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:02 PM
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I was responding to the person above me who was using words like Chad lol. Those terms usually exist in the microcosm of inceldom. If you read my comment history you'll see my stance is pretty central and in favour of men being able to express themselves, not the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:12 PM
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That sucks. As a bi woman that's a big reason I decided to stick with dating men because I feel they're easier to understand in many ways. I don't understand why someone would be fine with being so emotionally stunted that any semblance of vulnerability is reprehensible to them, its really sad and confusing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:26 PM
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It's crazy experiencing evolution before our eyes on reddit dot com... lmao the human experience is love, and being loved. It's an integral part of our life, if we don't get it or from the wrong people it fucks us up for life, affects our dating preferences and habits , how we treat our future kids etc. Behind that yes there's the physical aspects of dating such as resources, sex, money , etc. But fundamentally we will always crave love and safety, which is what people want and have incentive to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:33 PM
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That is very attractive to a woman because it puts her mind at ease that she can open up and be more feminine and giving since she feels supported in the aspect of issues being dealt with since she knows you will step up to the plate when necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:29 PM
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Fuck yeah confidence and putting fear of failure aside
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:27 PM
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Competence and action, or possibly philosophical. Never money, I see that as a necessary evil that can be acquired only if the above traits are already existing. Lazy stupid people with a lot of money have short expiry dates and are extremely useless since they will spend for materialistic gain which is a bleak and empty existence
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:27 PM
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I think it is or at least should be a general rule regardless of gender to have the ability to express emotion without letting it control you. Absolving women of this responsibility only enables further toxicity from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:25 PM
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This is pretty incel based ideas lol um my husband has cried with me several times and I just hold him and say its ok I got you. We still fuck later sometimes I just give him head to feel better. We do exist lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:10 PM
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I think most women are shitty nowadays. But people forget about the rest of us who are really trying and we have to work 10x as hard to try and challenge this lol. I think it has some effect though for example I think I've shown my sisters how important it is in many ways
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:08 PM
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I think thr missing link here is that since men aren't taught how to process emotions the way they "open up" can seem very aggressive. For example my husband has a lot of personal traumas and issues with women he has been overcoming and there have been instances where he lashes out and is very loud and combative when trying to express how he feels which ends up In a fight sometimes if I can't maintain my own feelings to be unaffected. He gets better every day but I empathize with the fact that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:05 PM
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Hell yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:58 PM
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Honestly a lot of metal artists are stand up people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:34 AM
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Relationships start with friendship, not every friendship leads to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:37 PM
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Exactly!! My current husband is the same way. He was just there being himself and being sexy and I was like I want that and I got that and we are very happy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:36 PM
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In the military on the course before mine. He acknowledged me but didn't give me any extra attention, was very playful and teasing. Would come down the hallway playing his music and come into my room more and more frequently to hang out and made himself in close proximity to me over time, we started off as friends with the underlying attraction being very strong. He has a commanding presence and a soft dominance about him that i found extremely attractive. I could sense his vulnerability behind …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:31 PM
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I think this is a false conclusion because you are conflating two different but frequently muddled social groups. Within the redpill/ manosphere realm, certain beliefs are held. This represents a small percentage of the general population. If we look at statistics for example of who is having more sex, CDC census states women have less sex on average than men do. However within these circles the narrative is that of the top 20% vs the bottom 80% etc. and effectively their beliefs are opposite fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:20 PM
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I can attest to the fact that I am very attracted to competency and looks are also very important but not as much so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:30 AM
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Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:36 AM
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I don't understand this other man's kid shit. Is it a instinct men have from ancient times trying to continue their gene pool? Is the end goal not to be part of a family unit? Is it to be the king of your own full grown sperm? Like I don't get why most men in these comments are choosing the selfish whore over the person who sacrificed their party years to contribute to our future humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:16 PM
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I think I may have to, Spencer Reid is good enough reason alone honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:08 PM
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In certain areas, personally I prefer a very shared dominant role or like a switch. My husband for example is dominant when it comes to taking care of certain tasks like refilling the water jugs, taking out garbage, locking the house, but we share things like money responsibilities, making large decisions, dominant role in sex, we both work trades jobs so we both produce income, I take care of most of the household chores and he helps. I am bisexual however and have always been a somewhat "mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:07 PM
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Bitchy and sarcastic, competent and capable of many tasks and willing to try new ones, steps up when it's his place to do so, has a dry sense of humor, has his own interests and hobbies or nerdy stuff, understands and respects boundaries, spontaneous enough to do fun things once in a while, but serious enough to know when to sit down and get shit done. Physically, slim and slender but muscular, feminine features, long hair and or facial hair, good sense of style, bone structure strong in body an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:07 AM
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This is my husband lol same type
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:02 AM
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I used to watch so much criminal minds about ten years ago and might just have to start again
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:02 AM
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So therefore, they have far less expectations on them and can get away with a lot more. Either way men have it easier on a macro scale and thats undisputable. Textbook way for a women to easily gain the same notoriety as a man in any position is through exploiting herself sexually. Men don't need to exploit their sexuality and can still gain the same if not more notoriety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:43 PM
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I agree. Like I stated in another reply I believe technology has accelerated the decline of mental capacity lately and has rendered a lot of people to be empty husks like this, basing their validation off empty calories (likes on posts, one night hookups, etc) Humanity is always swinging from one extreme to another and this is the peak of the female sexual revolution in the west and I really am looking forward to it evening out again. The human mind has a tendency to group items or concepts into…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:29 PM
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I honestly think it didn't used to be this way 30 years ago and political shifts as well as the advent of the internet has accelerated a decline in mental fortitude because of a lack of necessity. We have become complacent due to technology and I really look forward to seeing the pendulum swing back soon and see women and men at their full potential, not overgrown 8th graders
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:22 PM
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He definitely didn't have issues because he had these extreme narcissistic traits but he definitely had issues keeping any real friends or relationships beyond a couple months. So sure it may seem that way but in terms of meaningful connections he had 0 and therefore people were very distrusting of him. I guess I'm biased since I find these awkward traits attractive as my current husband does some of these things but I think it's a marker of a lack of self understanding. This makes anyone object…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:01 PM
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It's easier to pull emotionally stunted and damaged people when you're attractive because they don't know what to look for in a healthy partner, see the textbook attractiveness as a positive trait at face value. Ignorance is bliss
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:09 PM
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Girls like that honestly are emotionally stunted. If they are incapable of separating an action from a stereotype they have been fed, they are simply not using their brains I don't know how to put it nicely
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:05 PM
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As a bisexual woman I think I can offer a unique perspective. I have struggled with the concept of coming off as creepy when flirting or engaging with women in my life and as a result decided to marry a man I feel in love with. Luckily I had that option but most straight men don't. When dealing with men's advances towards me, there is a clear difference between creepy and confident and it has nothing to do with attraction. First of all, attraction is subjective to a degree. Sure certain traits a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:04 PM
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What do you do for work?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:11 AM
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Because women control reproduction. Simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:25 PM
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That's a very pessimistic outlook to have. Women are not homogenous. A lot of us genuinely care about our fellow humans and just want to see you get the same opportunities and rights
/r/MensRights03/05/22 01:47 PM
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Yeah this is very true
/r/MensRights03/05/22 01:45 PM
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I (23F) would say my viewpoint is very aligned with egalitarianism and therefore I support MRA rhetoric and some select parts of feminism have some value but largely the feminism movement has blown far out of proportion and into something political and divisive. On this note I would say a good way to start supporting female MRAs would be to not assume they align themselves with feminist viewpoints, and allow them to voice their concerns without mocking them. I see this happen on both extreme sid…
/r/MensRights03/05/22 01:43 PM
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I really think it does only because of the way my brain works. I love my husband and my family unconditionally, even if my mom (and dad kinda) fucked me up as a kid and denies my experiences I still love her for being my mom and try to teach her how to be better for my family. I unconditionally love my husband even when he's pissing me off intentionally or my mood changes. It's definitely possible, you just need to actually make the choice and not make excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:05 AM
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A lot of this has to do with the fact i have ADHD. But in the objective sense, I would refer to myself as a woman with masculine energy. Of course I also carry feminine but I feel people pick up on the former. I have a very no-nonsense/straightforward approach to most things, practical in thought and reasoning, tend to take initiative as a leader even though I don't speak very much, but when I do speak I speak my mind and I notice everyone listens and respect my opinion most of the time. I also …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:13 PM
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Everything lol. My abilities to perform my job properly, be a good wife, good sister, good daughter, good friend. My body is never quite what I'd like and I hate that where I work my appearance draws attention. Makes me want to hide. I'm insecure about my choices and saying what I want or like. Basically everything but I try every day to challenge that and be the confident person I want to be
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:31 AM
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People trust a childless woman more because its a masculine trait
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:24 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:34 PM
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Being with a woman is balance. There is feminine and masculine energy. Balance is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:34 PM
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I can agree with this as a fellow bisexual nerd woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:35 PM
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I might be because I don't understand human social cues or interactions usually but i think it's more likely autistic traits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 11:43 AM
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Well yes but we are in the year 2022 lol at least give them some credit that they evolved past cavemen
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 11:43 AM
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Thank you. I was like Wtf am I reading is this about robots or humans lol, male or female people have feelings which plays a bigger part in relationships than any of this statistical nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:21 PM
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Both
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:20 PM
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I was going to say, this post completely disregards different personality types altogether. Someone could potentially fall under one of these categories but struggle with ADHD or something similar that causes some discrepancies on paper but they're still a great person. The way this is written is from the perspective that all men want is to fuck someone that isn't financially reliant on them. It seems cruel to degrade men to such a primitive thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:19 PM
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That's the best way you could have described it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:42 PM
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You answered your own question. They got thots around them, not high value women. Overall, most women who understand how life works and respect themselves and their partner won't get into a relationship with somebody who is intentionally damaging their body in an effort to soothe their dysmorphia. More attractive is a man who maintains health but it is not his main focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:39 PM
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In Canada? I didn't know this
/r/PussyPassDenied11/02/21 10:27 PM
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HAHAHA immediately came to mind
/r/PussyPassDenied11/02/21 10:23 PM
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