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Do you have a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:18 PM
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lol I didn’t choose to not respond. I have a pretty active life, so my whole world doesn’t revolve around the internet. Driving while drunk or committing any other crime while drunk hurts other people (or at least has the power to). That’s why intoxication isn’t a defense. This is the same reason why ignorance of the law and intent aren’t defenses either. If you are sober and you have sex with someone that is not sober, then you are raping someone. Gender does not matter, either way it is rape. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:28 AM
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They are a punishable crime in the US. Intentionally and knowingly reporting a crime that hasn’t happened is punishable by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:44 PM
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That is by definition wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:38 PM
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She isn’t. If they’re both equally drunk when they decide to have sex, then that isn’t rape. If either person was drunk, and one had been sober when having sex was mentioned, that is rape. Please answer my questions now; I’ve addressed yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:43 AM
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“Rape” is a loaded term because it’s a horrific crime which is wildly under-reported. Not insignificantly because of comments like yours. Please provide to me all of the cases where a woman just genuinely changed her mind afterwards and accused a man of rape. “I’m mortified at what happened,” “I regret what happened,” “I never would have done that while sober,” etc the day after a man had sex with you while you were drunk isn’t changing mind, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:34 AM
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But if she is drunk and he is sober? And he knows she’s drunk? What do you call it then? ERA: are you saying that if someone consents to drinking, then they’re automatically also consenting to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:26 AM
4

Okay. You take care. I wish you happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:23 AM
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Honestly dafuq did you just try to say? None of what you’re saying is even coherent, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:16 AM
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Sorry but you genuinely just sound jealous and bitter. I wear tight workout clothes whether I’m at a gym, outside, or in my home. I can’t stand loose clothes when I’m working out. It’s not about how anyone else sees me, it’s about what’s comfortable for me. Stop worrying about how other women dress at the him and DEFINITELY stop claiming they’re intentionally securitizing themselves because they’re wearing what they want to wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:49 AM
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Are you… are you suggesting you can’t see your squats in the mirror at the gym? Are you also suggesting that only women exercise their glutes? This is such a weird response
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:43 AM
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Why do you think that? About “the kind of guy [they] probably find attractive probably won’t [date them]”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:19 AM
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It isn’t gaslighting. That person isn’t saying that you personally, or even that several men, don’t like being around quiet women. Obviously that’s the case for plenty of people. But it sounds like you’re describing someone submissive, who isn’t confident in their intelligence and opinions and doesn’t speak up when they’re right or when they don’t agree. If you only want you be around that type of woman, then the question becomes why, and also are you only ever around that kind of man as well, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:17 AM
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Honestly, I don’t get the “standards” concept in definite terms. Be with people that are attractive to you physically, treat you with respect and compassion, that you want to be with, and for whom all of that applies to you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:24 AM
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No they absolutely don’t, because literally none of this happens this way at all jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:13 AM
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No, but if he said they’re disgusting, then he’s transphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:12 PM
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You’ve definitely set up this post I’m good faith, I’m sure you’re entirely open to actual debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:24 AM
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Or idk, maybe men that are able to control their sexual urges and understand that women are human beings that have personalities and can often make good friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:38 AM
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Maybe I’m not understanding; I thought your previous comment was saying that all men are getting used, the difference is whether they’re predators that get used (which is the point to which I took issue) or victims that get used. Did I totally misunderstand your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:12 AM
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I'm sorry that you feel that way. Take care of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:02 PM
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"I wonder how" and "How" are not the same. I never called you subhuman, at all. Regardless, consistent self-pitying is an unpleasant quality in ANY person. Anyway, I've read a bit through your post & comment history, and it doesn't seem like you typically argue in good faith and that you often skew what other people say and how they behave. I hope you find happiness someday soon. It isn't always easy to do, but I'm rooting for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:51 PM
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Assuming this is really how it goes (it doesn't feel like the whole story, but I wasn't there and don't know any other aspects of these friendships), it sounds like your question is passive aggressive and self-pitying, and it also sounds like these women are significantly overreacting and also assholes. That said, again, this doesn't feel like a genuine description of the entire scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:37 PM
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Uh. You can’t “use” someone that’s a sexual predator…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:35 PM
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I’m interested to understand the context here. How does the topic come up with these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:34 PM
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I think at this point it all depends on what your definition of “is” is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:39 AM
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Um. No, we aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:38 PM
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I literally just asked to see the stats that you specifically, without any prompting, mentioned. Honestly why are you freaking out this is bizarre
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:14 AM
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I didn’t need a research study; you said you had stats and I was curious to see them, take it down a notch or six ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:13 PM
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You make it sound negative r/SelfAwarewolves much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:41 PM
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please lower your fucking voice it's really fucking unfeminine. fuck's sake. ​ (/s jic)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:39 PM
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Same here, but I truly wish you all the best
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:23 AM
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I literally met and then stayed with a man that had absolutely zero money, so how does what you said apply here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:56 AM
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I didn’t say I don’t believe them, I didn’t give an anecdote about short men. The previous person said, “stats show women hate short dudes,” and I’m asking them to show sources that suggest those “stats.” What point were you even trying to make here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:54 AM
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Can you show those stats please?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:36 AM
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Hi!!! I love you and you’re hot with or without money. (Now go find $5B or I’m leaving you 🥰😂)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:56 AM
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Are you saying you think I’m lying about how I met my husband? Lmao okay 👍🏼👌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:48 AM
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K. I’m fairly certain I can gauge my own attraction to my partner and the health of my marriage better than some internet stranger. Never let the confirmation bias keep you down, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:03 AM
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No, not at all. I’m proud of making my own money, I’m proud I’ve done so well in my career. I’d love to HAVE 5 billion dollars, I certainly wouldn’t turn it down. But him having it specifically wouldn’t impact my opinion of or attraction to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:58 AM
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This might be shocking, but there are some women that actually make their own money (great money, in my personal case) and don’t care about whether their partner had millions of dollars. My now-husband used to deliver pizzas, which is how we met. He didn’t even begin his current career until we’d been together for a good 6-7 years and had already moved across the country together. All women aren’t golddiggers that care about nothing but someone else’s money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:53 AM
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Um. Okay. Misogynistic behavior is literally my number one lady-boner killer, but talk to me more about women I guess 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:06 AM
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I appreciate you acknowledging that! Yes, I personally think it should, though I don’t want to speak for another gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:45 PM
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Yes, they ask if I’m male/female, not if I’m A male/female. Again, there’s a clear difference between using a word as an adjective and using it as a noun. That’s pretty basic English. This has been in no way an emotional response, I’m being entirely calm and rational. That’s entirely you protecting. I’m sorry for you that your worldview is so narrow, that you immediately label something you don’t understand or doesn’t matter to you as “little.” I’m not going to argue with you beyond this, take c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:40 PM
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I guess biologically, but why would you need to discuss that or identify them as such? And there’s nothing wrong with calling teenagers women or young women. What could possibly bother you about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:27 PM
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Absolutely! It isn’t offensive, but it’s dehumanizing. “Female” isn’t specific to humans; woman is. Female is fine as an adjective (I am female), but not as a noun (I am NOT ‘a female.’)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:48 PM
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You’ll be less invisible to women if you stop calling us “females.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:31 PM
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Oh sorry, I thought you said attraction, not the food chain. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:00 AM
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You’ve… never heard the term “off-putting” before? Anyway Google would have defined it for you in 2 seconds: unpleasant, disconcerting, or repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:14 AM
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It’s dehumanizing and really off-putting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:03 AM
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I lie down to stare at the ceiling and pretend the world isn’t in the state it’s in. Your way sounds better
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 08:53 PM
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No. I view them as individual people and don’t try to “figure them out” en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:51 PM
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Obviously scenario 1. He clearly made a sober decision, then repeated that decision, and finally lied to me over and over about it. How on earth do you feel scenario 2 is worse? And why do you think this has anything to do with gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:51 AM
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And most women aren’t one way because YOU think they are. Have a good evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:56 AM
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You do not have the right to decide what “most women” are or aren’t based on your personal experiences. I’m not going to argue with you anymore on this, I doubt anyone could help you understand how & why you are wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:51 AM
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Based on what actual data? It’s so frustrating how often people make a concrete claim without any actual empirical evidence. And “well it is true” is not an argument. If I said, “Most people of color are criminals,” and you say, “gee that’s pretty racist,” I can’t just counter with, “well it is true.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:44 AM
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Painting “most women” in a shallow and negative light? Saying most of us can’t unconditionally love a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:35 AM
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I literally told my now-husband to quit an awful job he had because the money wasn’t as important as his happiness & quality of life. Tfo with this misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:31 AM
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This is disturbing to read for LOTS of reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:29 AM
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But then what ELSE would I have to do every week? [/s]
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:08 PM
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And you happen to know that those are all caused by the the man not wanting to stick around? Or could a lot of them, say, just not want to get married to their partner? Or don’t have a partner and used a sperm bank? I’d also like to see your source for this data. ETA: and for the men that did leave, how do you know that they’re all refusing to pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:56 PM
2

Well that was all really incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:49 PM
0

That’s a slippery slope argument, though. Not valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:48 PM
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Step 1: stop calling us “females”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:00 AM
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No, I think women are individual people that have personal standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:18 AM
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“I don’t think women,” just stop there. Immediately. Stop. Generalizing. All. Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:46 AM
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What’s your source for literally any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:30 AM
1

So that’s a yes then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:34 AM
2

Are you saying women only fall into those two categories? Those with whom you’ve slept or those whom you consider strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:27 AM
1

Sorry, I think we’re arguing the same point. I 100% agree with you. I just also see the other person’s comment that as things are at this moment, it is very dangerous. That’s actually one of the major reasons I believe it should be legalized
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:29 PM
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It’s an extremely dangerous profession (at least in the US). Considering it’s, as I said, both illegal and unregulated, it’s extraordinarily dangerous for these “escorts” making “multiple times that of minimum wage.” Like, so are drug dealers, are you also going to tell me that’s a safe and stable profession?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:21 PM
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Honestly I did not expect a rational answer, and I really appreciate that you provided one. I personally think that if it were properly legalized and regulated, that wouldn’t be the case. BUT as things are now, I definitely agree with you. Thanks for having a really nice discussion!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:07 PM
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Could you please help me understand why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:59 PM
4

This is a backwards and honestly backwards take. There’s nothing wrong with selling sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:53 PM
4

THANK YOU omg I’ve been trying to figure out my own personal thoughts and feelings, I’m so glad you’re here to finally explain it to me. Phew!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:29 PM
1

By definition they literal aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:52 PM
8

WOW no, we definitely do NOT agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:42 PM
1

“It’s true, but he shouldn’t say it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:42 PM
4

Fellow DINK, and a woman. Samesame!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:20 PM
5

I want “read the thread, boy.” printed on a tshirt 🙌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:19 PM
5

You’re talking about misandry, and, speaking as an absolute feminist, misandry is just as harmful as misogyny. Don’t mistake misandry for feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:17 PM
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Ah yes, tell us more about how we think and feel, we’re waiting at the edge of our seats.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:47 PM
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I see that so much on this sub. Man: I think this is true of women, change my view. Several women: I have never done that or felt that way ever. Man: YOU’RE LYING!!!!! SEE I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:30 PM
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“because women don’t ever change them” Based on absolutely what evidence, dude
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:29 PM
1

I know you meant 10pm, but honestly being in bed by 10am sounds like heaven
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:26 PM
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Yes, that’s... that’s how content works
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:49 AM
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This is absolutely the kind of fuckwad that would intimidate a woman that said she didn’t like something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:56 PM
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Of course I would, I genuinely wish you any kind of happiness that you desire. Don’t hurt anyone in the meantime, be you! Make your intentions clear & upfront, make sure any kind of relationship (sexual, romantic, w/e is mutual, that’s really all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:33 PM
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I just hope you find happiness, person. I really do .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:23 PM
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It’s fucking disgusting, it’s completely insecure and the Madonna/whore complex. If she’s had any kind of sex that she won’t have with me, then she’s just a slut that is too used up to bother fucking me. The whole “she has to give me her best or I don’t want the rest” is just. I don’t have words for that “logic”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:38 PM
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I hope you someday learn to be less insecure and stop blaming women for your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:35 PM
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Again, that comes down to sexual incompatibility, it has nothing to do with her sexual past
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:57 PM
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Why, though? What if she did a lot of threesomes because she liked them and maybe wasn’t that serious with her ex, but now she’s serious about you and wants sex to be exclusively between you two?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:41 PM
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Curious, how many LTRs have you been in?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:24 PM
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Well THAT’S one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard, especially in response to asking for data to back a theory. Edited to fix a word
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:36 PM
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For you, and plenty of people, sure. And I totally get that. But the claim was that dead bedrooms are caused by one experienced payment being with one inexperienced partner. I’m asking for a source for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:51 PM
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You’re* and the point is just... just treat us that way? Stop trying to “figure out” our gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:31 AM
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I actually do not agree with you here at all. I’m genuinely sorry if this has been your experience, truly. But generalizing all men and women in marriages/relationships is very harmful, and it’s exactly what bothers me so much about a lot of the men on this sub and TRP. I don’t think it’s helpful at all and harms the conversation. Marriage is between individual people, we shouldn’t be generalizing by genders or roles or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:51 AM
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Ah sorry, thought you were OP. I just don’t understand how (as far as I can tell so far) someone can make a claim based on completely anecdotal evidence and theorized conclusions, but then reject any anecdotal evidence that contradicts that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:23 AM
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You’re absolutely right. Could you provide your scientific sources, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:13 AM
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r/thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:43 PM
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Honestly, there’s something so unsettling to me about how many men are online theorizing how women work. Just get to know some real-life women. Stop pretending to be so intellectual and superior in order to “crack” women. We’re HUMAN BEINGS ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:38 PM
1

Sorry, I meant the more specific policies. I’m curious to understand what job, immigration, voting, etc policies. And, if you’re open to discussing, your reasons. I promise I’m not being antagonizing; I believe that we’ll only ever lessen the divide in politics by rationally and calmly listening to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:16 PM
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But how do you know that? What empirical data is bringing you to this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:09 PM
2

And what’s your proof for this theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:03 PM
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Someone: proves you wrong You: nah, doesn’t prove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:59 PM
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I’m also very eager to see these “biology” studies you’re referencing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:51 PM
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How are you coming to these conclusions? Any actual studies, or if it just your assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:49 PM
2

Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:48 PM
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“Just more bs to justify crappy male behaviour while expecting women to give away their hearts and souls.” Don’t forget blaming women for antisocial men not being able to “obtain” a female! (On mobile, sorry for not formatting the quote properly)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:47 PM
2

Genuinely curious, which policies do you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:01 PM
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Because we wanted to. Because there are real tax and legal benefits to being legally married (we live in the US). Because I love calling him my husband, and he loves calling me his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 11:16 PM
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Jesus, no it isn’t. My husband and I are CFBC, we both have independent jobs, we don’t want to buy property for a while (and either of us could do that independently anyway). There’s absolutely no goal in our marriage, we just make each other happy. We like to be around each other and like living together, because we get along and are physically & romantically attracted to each other. I’m sorry, but I think it’s so gross, and honestly really sad, to look at relationships as some kind of race to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:56 PM
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You’re making an argument against roles in relationships. Rather, and this is my opinion anyway, people have their personality traits, as well as strengths and weaknesses, and what matters is finding someone with whom your personality is compatible, as well as ensuring you can function as a mature, adult unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:15 PM
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Which OP clearly could use more of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:55 PM
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