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| 3 | Q4BP/feminists: Why don't feminists push to have more women in "dirty" jobs like plumbing, construction, sewer maintenance, coal mining, garbage pickup, etc?Where are all the female truck drivers? It's hard to be a truck driver and on the road for weeks at a time as a woman who wants to have children. Being pregnant kind of chains you to where you are and after the first trimester or so, it can be difficult or dangerous to exert too much energy so that sort of takes women who plan on having a family out of the running for jobs like long haul truck driving, plumbing, coal mining, sanitation, etc., that OP was asking about. And the evidence I was aski… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/17 05:13 PM |
| 6 | Q4BP/feminists: Why don't feminists push to have more women in "dirty" jobs like plumbing, construction, sewer maintenance, coal mining, garbage pickup, etc?Do you have any evidence to support your claim that women are "avoiding these jobs like the plague"? Just because there are few women working in those fields doesn't mean it's due to lack of trying, not unlike the highly desirable jobs you mentioned. And as far as the "jobs that nobody wants" are concerned, there are plenty that are female dominated so I'm not sure why you're so butthurt about the undesirable jobs that are man dominated being exactly that. The implication of your whole argument … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/17 05:35 AM |
| 1 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?No it doesn't matter, that's why I said it's inclusion in this conversation was pointless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 01:22 PM |
| 1 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?It's out of place here. Making that "point" has absolutely nothing to do with the context of this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 01:15 PM |
| 1 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?I knew you'd show up whining in this thread eventually. Edit: and I'm not even sure what the point of your comment is. "Waaa men were oppressed too!"....uhhh ok. Hope you feel better getting that off of your chest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 12:56 PM |
| 3 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?Show us on the doll where the independent woman hurt you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 05:52 AM |
| 1 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?Because they're not acting like "Miley Cyrus", they're acting how they want to. Miley Cyrus isn't the first woman to drink, do drugs, have sex, party, dye her hair, dress in crazy or revealing clothes, etc. The idea that Miley Cyrus is some benchmark for behavior or that women and girls are actively trying act like her, is bizarre. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 05:50 AM |
| 2 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?LOL ok dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 05:46 AM |
| 7 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?Healthier for what you wish your reality was, but oh well. Move on and get with the times, man. You'd probably be having a better time in the now if you would stop romanticizing a time period in which it was socially acceptable and the norm to oppress women and minorities. Pro tip: women in 2016 don't want a man who pines for a time where the only power a woman could exert was in choosing what to make for dinner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 05:42 AM |
| 1 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?1000s of beautiful young women are acting like Miley Cyrus however the fuck they want, because that is their choice and theirs alone, in clubs as we speak Ftfy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 05:33 AM |
| 3 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?Generally speaking, and according to this one article, I suppose. But regardless of that, your point in mentioning women being unhappier now than they were in the 1950s is to imply that it's because women are no longer sexually suppressed, subservient housewives. There is zero evidence to suggest that is true. So, while you are entitled to your own beliefs, you are not entitled to your own facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 05:30 AM |
| 2 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?Thanks for the link. But the information in that article doesn't really jibe with your implication that women are unhappier now because they aren't subservient housewives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 04:51 AM |
| 2 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?Do you have those statistics about women being "unhappier than ever"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 04:28 AM |
| 1 | If men are so antimonogamy, then why do most rich successful men enter monogamous relationships?Sounds like you're going to make a divorce lawyer very busy some day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 04:27 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?I guess so! No point in arguing with a know-it-all! Have a good day of Internet trolling! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 06:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?LOL ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 06:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women are not entitled to respect because they are women.Good luck with this one. All OP does is dodge questions and accuses people of "ad hominem", then he'll downvote you. Nothing better than people posting "CMV" but actually have zero intention of doing anything besides fighting! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 05:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?because of all the rock stars he is the most sexually attractive I'll definitely have to disagree with you there. And as you know, attraction is a matter of personal taste and opinion, like you thinking Mick Jagger is ugly af. He's been a sex symbol for decades. I know women that adore John Lennon and think he was gorgeous. It's all a matter of opinion. Women find all different types of inward and outward characteristics attractive, no two women are alike in their attractions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 05:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?You're absolutely right that those 1%ers are on another level. OP was actually trying to argue with me elsewhere in this thread that anyone can be taught any level of ability, which is a totally ridiculous notion lol but, even with that being said, there are levels to this shit. Surely whatever your variety of skills are would allow you some options in life. Even if you don't have a vast number of skills and are average to below average, there are still options in life. And of all rock stars to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 11:52 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Do you honestly think that the talent necessary to play at the level of professional athletics can be taught? I think that you are confusing "how-to" with "skill". Can you learn how to hit? Yea sure. Can you make contact on a pitch being thrown to you by a professional pitcher? No. Edit: As far as Arod is concerned, was he hitting homers out of his crib? No. But if you read anything about him and what those that had coached him throughout his youth have said, everyone knew he was destined for ML… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 04:25 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?What a ridiculous false equivalence. It's always hilarious to me when people compare regular jobs that a college degree, work experience, or some other certification can get you into to that of professional athletics where the necessary level of skill to compete absolutely can not be taught. Get real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:26 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?I wasn't aware that as a man I get to decide what I would like to do. LOL what? Are you from Soviet Russia where your occupation was chosen at birth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:21 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?No one is asking men to give up their money, calm down. You can keep your same exact salary, but what IS being asked is that a woman who does the same exact job as you should be paid the same as you for doing so. Release your grasp on your purse, no one is trying to steal it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?The person who I was responding to has been claiming this entire time that men work harder than women. But ok sure, if placing that "goalpost" shift on me fits your narrative better than go for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 10:57 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?No, no one is talking about men being hired more than women. We are talking about equal pay for equal work. I don't think you comprehend what you read very well. And no, working longer does not necessarily mean completing more tasks. I've worked with plenty of people that stay at the office past when everyone else leaves, and they certainly do not complete more tasks. One person in particular at my current job spends more hours in the office than anyone, yet he has the worst sales numbers at the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 06:18 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?if someone is working longer hours, they are doing more work. If they aren't then they are wasting their own time. Not if they know that someone automatically assumes they must be working harder if they are there longer. You are giving all of these men the benefit of the doubt that they aren't trying to play the system by exploiting that assumption that more hours equals hard work. That article you posted in another thread even stated that men will use their time worked as a status symbol by tel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 06:12 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Did you read that article? It basically states that the successful upper middle class men, "elite men" as this article refers to them as, are only working long hours because it has become essential to their identity and their own machismo, not because it's at all necessary to get their jobs done. Not sure how this speaks to your belief that men are harder workers. It's saying that 55+ hours spent in the office are not indicative of better work. There are actual parts of the article that state th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 06:05 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?What about the worker that is dicking around for a few of those hours on the Internet which unnecessarily elongates their day? Do you still consider them as hard workers because they are at the office until 7-8pm because of their own procrastination? Longer hours does not equal someone being a harder worker. It's a totally flawed mentality to think that time physically spent at a job must mean that person is working hard. In this day in age, a lot of work can be done from home and on the weekend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 05:50 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Source? Working longer hours does not equal working harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 05:41 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?That still doesn't prove that men work harder. Working longer does not equal working harder. If a person is able to complete a task at a faster pace than someone else, does that mean that the person who took longer was working harder? The goal is to complete the task, not to spend more time getting there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 05:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?What research? Regardless, what does that have to do with equal work deserving equal pay, anyway? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 05:32 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?What jobs are you talking about? Have any actual data to back it up or are you just depending on gender biased assumption? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 04:50 AM |
| 9 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Can it really be ad hominem when it is the basis of your argument? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 04:49 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Did you read this article? What about this proves that all men work harder than all women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 04:48 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Women are Children.That's all well and good, but it still doesn't change the fact that there aren't exclusive Lesbian bars because lesbians just go to gay bars.. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/08/16 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Women are Children.Lesbians go to gay bars. Gay is a colloquialism for homosexual, so therefore all-encompassing. A gay bar is where ALL gays go to, meaning gay men and gay women. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/08/16 05:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.I absolutely agree that every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort to communicate, but our ideas of "reasonable" communication by both parties greatly differ. A man confirming consent by communicating with his new partner is deemed unreasonable by you, where as I see it as completely reasonable. If all are adults equally, then the responsibility of gaining/granting consent should be equal, as well. I think you are having a hard time separating what I actually said from the boog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 07:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Not at all. That is entirely projection on your behalf. You literally said that women who don't communicate non-consent in a manner that you deem reasonable, are incompetent. You've said this multiple times throughout this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 07:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Give the average guy We aren't talking about guys, so your assumption about what a majority would choose is irrelevant in the context of this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 05:47 PM |
| 0 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.That's not true. I would rather go to a white collar crime prison for being convicted of some insurance or financial crime than get beat up and raped by a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 05:28 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Makes sense! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 05:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.So, you have no idea when you make people uncomfortable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 05:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Except one is immediate and at the forefront of someone's mind. When faced with an unethical/illegal act, most people don't immediately jump to the thought of being raped and beat up in jail. That threat isn't IMMEDIATE. So, it's not that comparable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 05:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.How did you come to conclusion that you are stronger than most people? That's quite a generous assumption | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 05:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.This CMV is a complete waste of time. OP actually just wanted to show the world that he is a date rape apologizer, and wants reform to allow date rape. He has said repeatedly that BOTH parties are responsible for communication, but when presented with the idea that a man ask for consent before he acts, OP says that is not sexy to him and will ruin his time and that it infringes on his sexuality. A victim-blamer through and through. Complete shitlord confirmed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 05:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.another competent adult should have the common sense to realize when they're making someone uncomfortable "Wrong. That is the job of a trained medical professional" If you think that this is something that one needs professional training for, then you are incompetent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 04:52 PM |
| 0 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.someone who's stronger than most people Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 04:48 PM |
| 0 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.This is like going along with your boss' unethical/illegal request because you think you might get fired if you refuse No, it's not. A work scenario is not comparable to the threat of physical and sexual violence. False equivalence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 04:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Basically what you are saying is that women who are date raped are incompetent. So, if these women who for MANY reasons are unable to give a strong and forceful "no" (or maybe they already have, but the man didn't take them seriously) in a situation where something is already happening are incompetent, what does that make a man who is unable to just ask for consent when everything is going well? A wimp? A petulant, stubborn child? And the reality is, even when women DO communicate that they don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 04:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.>This is not a normal part of human sexual interactions... What is "normal" human sexual interaction? Who decides that? I think what "normal" sexual interaction is varies from person to person. "Normal" sex to me is the way my SO and I fuck, but normal to my lesbian friend is strapping on a dildo and fucking other women. So, since "normal" is anecdotal, then it's a personal choice of whether or not a person works asking for consent into their "normal" approach to casual sex. If you choose to NOT… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 12:23 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Which is why I, for one, believe we need better education for both boys and girls as to what consent means. This wins the thread. I couldn't agree more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 05:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.All true. And that begs the question of what "normal" human sexual behavior is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.every indication of consent This is an extremely grey area, though, and leaves far too much open to interpretation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:53 PM |
| -1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Asking for consent every single step of the way is also about as far from sexy as you can get. This is just not true. I've yet to meet a woman, myself included, that found a sexual partner making sure they are comfortable and want to do this, a turn off. This is a common misconception. Women, generally speaking, like to feel safe, it's a huge part of our comfortability when engaging in sexual activities. Obviously sex with strangers is a big risk for both parties involved. There is a good mix of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 01:50 PM |
| -1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.It's a two way street, like OP was saying. We can only control ourselves, so why wouldn't someone want to make sure they do everything they can to protect themselves by asking for consent? And when you're in a situation where you are bringing home a total stranger from a bar or tinder or whatever, you would think that would be even MORE of a reason to cover all of your bases. It takes all of .5 seconds to say "are you sure?", so it makes sense to just start working it into the routine. they migh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 01:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.With that being said, why wouldn't people just ask for consent? That's my point. If the fear of going to jail is resting on that person's shoulders should they NOT ask for verbal consent, why wouldn't they?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 12:13 PM |
| 0 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Is it beyond a man to act like an adult and ask for verbal consent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 12:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.isn't a mind reader Exactly. So why wouldn't they ask for consent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 12:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Well until that happens, thankfully we have you to keep everything straight for us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 05:19 AM |
| 0 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.No, they aren't comparable. A kid not liking his teeth cleaned is not the same as someone being on the receiving end of a sexual act that they don't like. Having dental work done is not comparable to non-consensual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 05:17 AM |
| 0 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.What's your point? That rapists don't care about consent? No kidding. Thank you for clearing that up for us all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 05:15 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.If the person doesn't care about asking for consent they don't care and they aren't going to do it What you're describing is a rapist. And your solution to that is "have a chaperone". Wat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:18 AM |
| 0 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.So if they're children for not being able to say no, what does that make the person who is unable to ask for consent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:13 AM |
| -1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.No, that's not true. There are many people who, for whatever reason, don't have the courage to stand up for themselves of their own volition. But, if the aggressor or more confident person says "hey, are you sure you want to do this?", they'll then be able to say "well, not really". But sure, there is a chance that they could say yes even if they don't want to, and that would be on them. Put yourself in the scenario of being the one leading the charge: wouldn't you rather be able to say that you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.It has to be the only way to obtain consent. I truly don't understand why asking for consent is such a problem. If a man or a woman takes issue with having to ask a stranger they met at a bar for consent of a sexual act they want to engage in, how is that not a red flag? OP states that consent/non-consent is the responsibility of BOTH parties, yet this entire thread is putting that responsibility solely on the non-aggressor. "They should say no if they don't want it", and if they don't say no th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:05 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.It's not about blame, it's about BOTH parties being responsible for asking/granting consent. If you're the one moving things along sexually, just ask if they're ok with what you're doing. Normal, mentally stable adults shouldn't have a problem with doing this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:39 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.If someone is unable to just ask "is this ok?" or "are you sure you want to do this?", should they really be meeting people at bars or on tinder? Asking for consent is not that hard. Wouldn't the sexual experience be that much better if you knew that the stranger you're fucking definitely wants what is happening? Casual sex with strangers is risky business for many reasons, so do yourself a favor and just ask for consent when escalating a sexual encounter. Of course there is always a chance that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:37 AM |
| 3 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.And 3 year olds also shit their pants. They have basically no social pressures put on them that can greatly affect their decision making ability, of which they have little. They'd stick their metal fork into a power socket if it were up to them. Comparing a 3 year old to an adult is nonsensical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:18 AM |
| 5 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.What about the obligation to ask for consent? Why is that such a ridiculous notion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:13 AM |
| 0 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.A kid being at a dentist that their parent brought them to, with said parent sitting in the waiting room or in the exam room with them, is not a comparable situation to meeting a stranger at a bar and having a sexual encounter with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:10 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.You're assuming that the other party involved asked for consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:03 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.a survival situation is being under fire in Fallujah or a gator trying to eat your thigh. Yes, but those are not the only types of survival situations, as I'm sure you're aware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.I totally understand, and I apologize if I inadvertent strayed from your point. It's such a layered, complicated topic that it begs a lot of these subtopics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 02:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Yes they do, but like you said, sometimes people don't. So, for those of us that understand this rule and have the ability to uphold it, we should do so for our own protection. We can only control ourselves and our own actions, so it's important to be mindful of that and do everything that is in our control to keep ourselves out of dodge, which in this case is being the one to always ask for consent. Don't depend on someone else, least of all a perfect stranger, to have your back. Now, obviously… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 02:17 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.I totally agree, but that isn't going to happen any time soon. So, the best way to try and protect oneself with a new partner is to always ask for consent, never assume. Or, of course, don't have sex with random strangers after a night of drinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 01:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Unless it's a scenario where both people are tearing each other's clothes off type of thing, I think it's usually pretty clear cut, in my experience anyway. But I'm sure there are plenty of times where it's not, and in those cases, the only recourse is to ask for consent, regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 01:32 AM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Right. And the rational, best course of action is for the person that is leading the way sexually and escalating the sexual encounter to ask for consent. Its not hard, nor is it too much to ask. A simple, "is this ok?" can save both parties a world of hurt. And in the chance that consent is received but the consenting party then lies, well there is no avoiding that. That's a risk engaging in casual sex with strangers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 11:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.I definitely agree that the responsibility shouldn't only be on the man, and it's not. The responsibility to obtain consent should be on the aggressor. Which ever party is leading the way in the sexual encounter should be asking if the escalation is ok, since they are the ones escalating. As far as consent with married couples/LTR, you should each know each other well enough to either be able to say "nah I'm not into it" and/or know when your partner isn't in the mood. This conversation was more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 11:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.We aren't talking about a man simply approaching a woman, we are talking about the point that they are already in a sexual situation. And yes, the risk is there that despite the fact that consent was verbally given, a person can turn around and lie. But we assume risks daily just by getting out of bed. The law isn't going to change so the best course of action is to literally ask for consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 09:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.So a person being unable to speak up for themselves, for whatever reasons, should be institutionalized? If that's the case, then mental hospitals would be overrun due to a huge portion of the worlds population falling into the category of "followers". Just ask for consent. A person who has no problem communicating shouldn't have any problem asking for consent. If the person you're asking is on board, then things will continue on as they were, or if they say "actually I don't want to do that" the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 08:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Or just ask for consent. If a person cannot comprehend the idea that an adult may not be able to speak up for themselves, one can assume it's because they have no problem whatsoever communicating. So if that's the case, then that person shouldn't have a problem being the one to ask for consent. With that being said, it's not so crazy to think that if that person takes issue with asking for consent it probably means they would prefer the ambiguity because they'd rather be able to do what they wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 08:47 PM |
| 4 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.You're generalizing. Women can communicate. And believe it or not, some men also find themselves in scenarios where they don't like what's happening but don't speak up. It's not so much a gender problem as much as it is a self esteem problem. What we are all discussing is the complicated human condition and psyche. If you are all under the impression that the inability to communicate doesn't ever happen to men, then keeping in the context of this conversation, you are perpetuating the ridiculous… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 08:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Yes, but it's significantly more complicated than "just don't do that", not unlike most scenarios that humans find themselves in and those observing say "wtf dude?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 08:16 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.As far as the law is concerned, in the scenario you've used of a woman being the one unable to articulate she doesn't want to, should she press charges, the man is at fault. But the reality is, a majority of these sort of scenarios go unreported because of the same reasons that the scenario even happened. Chances are, if a person is unable to articulate "no stop", they aren't going to call the police because they blame themselves for their inability to speak up. This sort of discussion is diffic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 08:11 PM |
| 5 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Exactly. People generally don't reveal vulnerabilities with a partner until they are in a relationship. To think that someone is going to expose a vulnerability like not being able to stand up for themselves to a stranger or even a casual hook up is insane. Not to mention, the danger they can put themselves in by telling a perfect stranger "hey I have trouble saying no.." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 02:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.I agree. But that is not, and never will be, the case. People like to think they are one way when they are actually another way. The ol' "fake it til you make" mentality. And sometimes when people fake it, they never make it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 02:39 PM |
| 3 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.I don't necessarily disagree with anything you are saying. But because of how complicated the human psyche is, it will never be as easy as what you are saying, hence why there are so many cases of people going through with sexual acts they are uncomfortable with. It's no secret that humans being able to have honest introspection is very hard. Most of the worlds issues stem from people not being honest with who they are, accepting it, and then working on the negative aspects of their personality.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 02:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.I agree. But my point is that some people don't realize that they can't properly convey that consent until they're in the middle of it, which is why things like date rape happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 12:00 PM |
| 5 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.an adult should have no problem clearly communicating consent or non-consent In a perfect world, yes, but that's just not the case. I'm assuming you're an adult, so with that being said, have you never come across other adults that are so passive aggressive that they can't clearly convey something in a much less loaded scenario? Sometimes adults can't even say no to benign plans with other friends for fear of how the friend will react or other reasons that they may have invented in their head. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 11:55 AM |
| 3 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.If someone, for whatever reason, may not be able to properly convey that they don't want to perform a sexual act when it's happening or about to happen, how can you expect them to be able to pinpoint that and explain it to you before hand? Don't you think that if they were able to express that, they would just be able to say no when the time comes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Why are poly relationships so rare among the very wealthy?5 children who are often misbehaved You must not have that much experience with children if you assume that all children are often misbehaving. That is completely anecdotal and truly depends on how they are raised. Another anecdote is you saying that because of what you know about children, you know that you don't want more than 2-3. And what rich people are you talking about? How many do you know and have spoken to about why they chose to have the amount of children they have? If you are talkin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Why are poly relationships so rare among the very wealthy?In what way do you assume it to be a 'burden'? My mom had 5 children, which included a set of twins, and this was from the years of 1974-1986. Each birth was without any sort of pain or numbing meds. Is that shit painful? Hell yea, but clearly not enough to keep her from having 5 of us. And she didn't have any sort of lasting negative health effects from it, either. It's worth noting that the maternal side of my family is Irish Catholic so I have 3 aunts and uncles that each have 5+ kids, and 2 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 07:03 PM |
| 8 | Why are poly relationships so rare among the very wealthy?And having multiple children with multiple women will offer no legal protection for him whatsoever. It would be incredibly foolish and that's why it doesn't happen. You say that you would if you were them, but if you had the ability to make yourself into someone in the 1%, you wouldn't be you, and you would think totally different. You'd be a totally different person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 12:09 PM |
| 2 | Why are poly relationships so rare among the very wealthy?How do you figure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 12:06 PM |
| 4 | Why are poly relationships so rare among the very wealthy?Because most women wouldn't be cool getting into an arrangement like that voluntarily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 04:10 AM |
| 7 | Why are poly relationships so rare among the very wealthy?Rich people have future spouses sign prenuptial agreements, so they don't lose half over and over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 03:49 AM |
| 7 | Why are poly relationships so rare among the very wealthy?Assuming you are talking about wealthy men who have created their own wealth, they tend to have better foresight (hence their ability to turn nothing into something of extreme value). Knocking up random women is not a good move in terms of their personal wealth, and their personal brand. Impregnating women left and right is viewed to be trashy and exposes what appears to be a lack of impulse control and discretion on that mans part. Those sort of characteristics can be a complete turnoff to peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 03:00 AM |
| 13 | Why are poly relationships so rare among the very wealthy?People don't get rich by writing checks, as they say. In a very litigious society, it is not in the wealthy mans best interest, monetarily speaking, to have multiple children by multiple women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/16 02:55 AM |
| 2 | Do women value certain betas as much as alphas?How is telling you she's in love with you not meaningful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/16 04:06 PM |
| 1 | What are you thinking at this moment?The conversation was over hours ago, so you're a day late and a dollar short, as they say. | /r/MGTOW | 20/03/15 02:15 AM |
| 2 | What are you thinking at this moment?What? No. But the fact that you went right to that is pretty telling. And if you despised human interaction so much, then why would you ever seek out a relationship? And what does your income have to do with any of this? Look man, the truth is that I don't care what you do with your life. I was trying to give you some advice to quit being so miserable (I read a bunch of your other posts). If you want to continue on this way, go for it. Enjoy. | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:54 PM |
| 3 | What are you thinking at this moment?Oh ok, I get it. Anyone who tells you how it is, and lets you know that continuing on this pathetic path of blaming everyone else but yourself for your life, must be a dreaded woman-lover. You're pathetic, dude. Get your shit together. | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:42 PM |
| 3 | What are you thinking at this moment?You could've just hung up the phone. Again, your troubles are exactly that; yours. Quit blaming everyone else for your issues in life, and your situation will improve. | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:34 PM |
| 3 | What are you thinking at this moment?You're fooling yourself if you think that you aren't seeking it, as well. Do you think you would've ended up hospitalized and drugged after a breakup if you didn't wish to have your feelings validated by the person who rejected you? | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:28 PM |
| 3 | What are you thinking at this moment?Your issues stem from within yourself, man. If you are going to blame your lack of success with women on anyone but yourself, prepare for a lonely life. Take some damn responsibility for yourself. | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:12 PM |
| 3 | What are you thinking at this moment?You do realize that becoming psychotic after a breakup is not how most people react, right? | /r/MGTOW | 19/03/15 03:03 PM |
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