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2	Check your Privilage! We already do understand what women "feel" is happening. We just no longer buy it, because evidence and facts say otherwise. Feelings are irrelevant. Feelings are not irrelevant, they are fundamental to our entire existance. It doesn't matter if society is equal on paper if it is causing harmful feelings. Sorry but no. We've listened for decades now, and the victim card has been played out and abused for too long. Plus, I'm all out of male guilt for injustices I did not commit. I don't want you …	/r/MensRights	18/11/10 06:17 PM
2	Check your Privilage! Thank you, I appreciate that you too take the time to explain. I think I understand your (and some other people's) views on this issue much better now and where our differences in opinion come from. This is what I've got out of this (correct me if I'm wrong): Given that the legal and official status of women is equal to men, feminists have moved on to focus on the remaining issues "under the surface". Men's rights activists, however, are concerned with legal and official issues that are disadvan…	/r/MensRights	18/11/10 04:31 PM
2	Check your Privilage! [...] then please cite them. [...] You have, what amounts to parenting styles...that is not a rights issue. These are not rights issues per se. They are not laws somewhere that I can cite or easily prove. Feminism is not only about "Women's rights" (hardly at all these days), it is also about how detrimental social relations are reproduced in heteronormative parenting etc. Which does not mean that feminists want to force people to do parenting, social interactions etc. in a certain way. What we …	/r/MensRights	18/11/10 03:09 PM
2	Check your Privilage! These structures do not only apply in male-female interactions. Who my friends are is irrelevant. Yes, these people were assholes, but the same type of behavior of men treating women this way occurs with a lot of different people I know, who don't know each other. Given that women everywhere report the same pattern, I think it should not be dismissed as isolated incidents.	/r/MensRights	18/11/10 02:55 PM
0	Check your Privilage! They were not supposed to be evidence, they were examples. What I'm trying to do here is not to prove scientifically that male dominance exists. I want people to understand what kind of things women feel are happening to them constantly, and as a man, in my daily life, I can confirm that it happens to women more than men. I'm basically saying: Women have been historically oppressed, it would make sense to listen to them and give them the benefit of the doubt on whether they are oppressed or not.	/r/MensRights	18/11/10 02:52 PM
1	Check your Privilage! Yes, they were not very specific for two reasons: 1. Anonymity. 2. Because by making them broad I figured more people could relate and apply them to their life. But perhaps that was a mistake. Also, a lot of the ways females are disadvantaged today are about how society makes them feel, and especially how it makes them feel about themselves. Hard to prove, but when faced with trusting or not trusting a historically oppressed group of people, I think the sensible think to do is to give them the b…	/r/MensRights	18/11/10 02:46 PM
-1	Check your Privilage! Most forms of feminism characterize patriarchy as an unjust social system that is oppressive to women. In feminist theory the concept of patriarchy often includes all the social mechanisms that reproduce and exert male dominance over women. Did you read this yourself? This is what feminists are talking about. Now, patriarchy (in this feminist sense) used to be even worse, and is in places like Iran, as you say. But there are still systems of male dominance over women. The mother is considered ce…	/r/MensRights	17/11/10 10:52 PM
-5	Check your Privilage! I'll give you some examples from my life... From the chapter of Privilege in everyday social interactions. Exhibit A: Male student calls on female teacher, using nicknames and demeaning voice as if talking to a child or perhaps partner. Teacher is obviously flustered, but keeps her cool and approaches. Male student laughs and along with him two girls at the same table. Now, could a female student do the same thing? Well, yes, up to a point. The key issue is that the teacher took offense and stil…	/r/MensRights	17/11/10 10:38 PM
-3	Check your Privilage! I don't. But the thing that most feminists refer to with "patriarchy" is still something real, even if this definition (whether more "true" or not) is something else. The justification people use is basically that the two concepts were once more closely tied together than they are now. Our thoughts about women are founded in the idea of patriarchy, although the actual patriarchy (by the definition you give) is not fully there.	/r/MensRights	17/11/10 10:15 PM
-2	Check your Privilage! I was wondering… does anyone else seem to be missing their privilege? Because I honestly do not see any of these advantages. What exactly do we get that others don’t? The irony in this is that the privilege we feminists refer to when we ask you to "check your privilege" is being in a privileged position as men therefore not seeing how disadvantaged women are. When we say "check your privilege", it does not mean "you are a man, so you have no say". I am a man, for example, but also a radical femi…	/r/MensRights	17/11/10 09:35 PM
5	Feminism, Manhood & You --How to get what you want despite the emasculating culture of Feminism Ok, this starts to smell troll real bad. I'm going to let you have the last word in this discussion, because I don't believe any sane person will be swayed by your name-calling. To be clear: I am honestly not running away because of a lack of arguments, but if you feel like taking this like a victory over my "chick logic" I can't stop you.	/r/MensRights	21/03/10 01:16 AM
3	Feminism, Manhood & You --How to get what you want despite the emasculating culture of Feminism I understand your sentiment, my comments on the quotes were not coherent arguments. The thing is, it is very hard to make a logical argument against a view that I feel is so completely distorted and disconnected from reality. Now, saying this is of course to once again commit the same "fallacy" - so to be clear: I'm not trying to convince you with my "WOW arguments". I'm just stunned by your opinions and I really don't understand why you would defend male authority, except for fear. I also just …	/r/MensRights	21/03/10 12:51 AM
2	Feminism, Manhood & You --How to get what you want despite the emasculating culture of Feminism Feminism has a female perspective on equality like the African-American Civil Rights Movement had an African-American perspective or the animal rights movement has an animal perspective. I don't think you can demand of every movement to incorporate all perspectives to their fullest extent. Narrow movements only become a problem in cases where their opinion actually stands in conflict with the rights of another group. In those cases, an open and tolerant discussion between all relevant sides will…	/r/MensRights	20/03/10 11:34 PM
9	Feminism, Manhood & You --How to get what you want despite the emasculating culture of Feminism Simply put, Manhood is your authority—the proper form necessary to govern the lives of others, especially women. I really felt like stopping there. It's kind of sad that I have to point this out: defending male authority over women!?! What!?? On its surface, the modern Feminist movement purports to protect the rights of women from male oppression, often associating itself with the civil rights movement of African-Americans. But this faulty rationale fails to recognize the difference between unju…	/r/MensRights	20/03/10 10:22 PM