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I probably beat up in school when we were kids You get a yellow star
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:10 AM
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Lol lord have mercy the type of moms they will make. Anyway, why would these guys be proud of snatching a girl from a bald ugly dude. Lol. Seems like low self esteem on the guys part. Btw, vin diesel is bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:34 AM
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Befriending the bouncers. The first time they let you in the venue, have a small chat and offer to buy them a soft drink. They’ll remember this gesture the next time you roll up to the club on your own. This seems random AF. "Hey let me buy you a drink". Furthermore, it already comes off as agenda based - let me buy you a drink so you can be nice with me, forcing a friendship, which will ultimately help me pick up girls.
/r/seduction23/01/19 08:12 AM
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That is exactly why you should pump and dump them and contribute to their misery. If you leave the sex game, then YOU lose. Nobody else is going to be hurt by it but you. So that's not a good way to protest. You only hurt yourself. It's better to improve your looks, confidence, and behavior. Work on yourself. Stop being a nice guy. Then let the pump and dump begin. Unfortunately, many guys, once they improve, catch feelings and let a girl tie them down. You haven't done your service to men if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:23 PM
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Just pump and dump hoes. They love it. Never catch feelings. Just fuck them then be like "I think I'm actually gay" the next day. Or fuck them for a month then do that. Premeditated serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 01:28 PM
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That's why you should involve the family. If they seem like a random person who you don't know anything about their parents, that's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 06:10 PM
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I think you missed my point. Clingy mothers can be bad. But so are people who don't have a relationship with their parents. If somebody is still tightly knit with their parents, then he or she will turn out to be a family person, and a good person to make a family with. Compared to dysfunctional families where the kids and parents don't even keep in touch anymore, or grew up in a single parent household. History repeats itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 01:58 PM
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Pick better partners. In tribal communities, they ask around about the person you're trying to marry. Their family becomes yours, and yours becomes theirs. This is why relationships today are failing. Because people believe you should have sex with as many people as possible and as much of it as possible. We are incentivizing pump and ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 12:46 PM
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A man that doesn't enable sluttery
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 05:56 AM
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Yea, if you're a virgin then the concept of being naked around girls is foreign to you. But you'll get comfortable in your own skin as you get older. Look at your body in the mirror and start to love it. Working out helps a whole lot. Fall in love with your own body. See how sexy it is. Naked bodies are sexy.
/r/seduction12/01/19 05:52 AM
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Then you're insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:44 PM
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What if they ask you and run it by you instead of doing it behind your back? Then you can't say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:44 PM
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Girls want to be told they're worthless. They want to work for your validation, not just be handed it. You think you're doing a good thing when you tell them "you look good with no makeup on" or "I prefer girls with no make up", but you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:34 AM
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THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:21 PM
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I think pumping and ghosting should be how you repay women who freely give sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:47 AM
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If you girls are giving us free pussy, then we'll take it. Your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 09:12 AM
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I have already been regularly keeping my style and grooming well above the average man for over a decade at this point. I’ve never been a nice guy. But I’ve always been what women want to be in a relationship with, not what they want to fuck. Also there are plenty of Chads who don’t even have to do anything and get laid all the time (check out some posts on /r/tinder). If I really need to try this hard, what does that even say about me? I sure as hell don’t get IOIs or any attention whatsoever. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 08:30 AM
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Then why do men not want to commit to women with nonchalant attitudes towards sex? Men don't want to. But girls don't reveal that shit. Or guys are too desperate and have no self respect and make an exception for themselves. They don't mind leftovers, because they never had attention from women. Ironically, women are turned off by that, so these guys never get girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 08:04 AM
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You are wrong. Short version: become the alpha, and then pay girls back (pump and dump) Long version: For a guy, his looks aren't the most important factor. It's his assertiveness, confidence. Plus, you can easily dress better and look sharp. Don't be a nice guy - find out what that means. Anyway, ... You're not just going to get girls attracted to you for existing. Alphas know girls have what they want, and that is why they can afford to pump and dump. He put time into himself. Thus, he can enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 07:58 AM
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Perfectly stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 07:42 AM
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Ah ok. No, I'm serious. The tip in for 2 minutes would be pleasurable. Not joking. Sex is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:11 AM
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Not sure what that means. Take care though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:05 AM
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I'm not interested in that subreddit. I just want to have your wife for 10 minutes. I'll just put the tip in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:03 AM
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A) It doesn't have to take time. If you do part B below B) I don't think you tested your partner the first time you had sex with her? How did you trust her? And how did you know how long it had been since her previous sexual encounter? I'm assuming you just threw on a condom and didn't worry about the rest. The point is, you shouldn't lose your shit if it happens, as long as she obviously doesn't do it on a regular basis. I will personally go and get tested and provide papers and wear a condom i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 09:58 AM
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Holding out only hurts yourself at this point; enjoy the degeneracy; contribute to women's misery by pumping and dumping
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 06:17 AM
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Beautiful! "It's not what we wanted, but what we got dragged into"; "play the game or get left behind"; "Holding out only hurts yourself at this point"; "embrace the degeneracy"; "pump and dump"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 06:15 AM
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The middle eastern way isn't actually bad. I wish it was practiced here. I can't go back to the middle east. So I am forced to become a western male slut, because I don't want to be a good guy while my future wife slultted around in her youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 06:01 AM
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Good luck finding a girl who you're sure is not a slut or didn't slut underneath the table. If you want that shit, then go to my home country in the middle east.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 05:51 AM
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Just take the easy layup and then dump her. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 05:48 AM
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I agree with him that it might not be his value. It's not my value either honestly. But cutting his opportunity off for a girl who already gave it up to other dudes, is only going to hurt him not her. In order for that to work, our culture would need to be taboo about about slutting too early. But since it isn't, then go ahead and sex her and then dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 05:40 AM
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I'll just settle down at 35, once I'm old as a turd bag. Until then, I will engage in calculated serial monogamy (knowing I won't stick with them, but not telling them). It doesn't matter if she is a slut, because by then I will be a slut too. If you can't beat them, join them. In my ideal world, girls don't sleep with more than 3 guys. But since we can't ensure that, then I'm forced to play the game - become the player (or else risk being played). So yes, what I said about sluts I stand by. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 05:29 AM
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That's the game we're forced to play, even if we don't like it or what we envisioned for ourselves. Otherwise, you risk her having a higher n count than you. This is what it had to come down to. We got tired of women's advantage in the sexual market, freely slutting around, without worry, knowing any desperate guy with no self respect would have her after she was dumped by the football team locker room.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 05:22 AM
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Amen. If she doesn't put on the first or second date, then I am insulted and feel like she is using me or categorizing me as the provider. I kindly delete/block her. I know she sniffed cocaine off of some dude's ass before me, so there's no reason for me to not get the same treatment. This is the direction we're heading in. Women asked for it. Guys are starting to have some self respect. I've talked about this in my threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 05:18 AM
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I've seen shit I can't unsee
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 03:35 AM
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A) And that's wrong how? B) why were you then arguing with me about all the ramifications - that guys should seek to be the players? Or maybe not you, but almost everyone here did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:41 AM
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Yes, shaming is a thing of the past, essentially. Sure, people don't come out on TV and say they hooked up with a random from the club. Why would they? So yea, girls do fuck around without worry. There is no reason not to. The fact that slut shaming has a negative connotation nowadays proves shaming is pretty much dead. Guys may still try to shame, but that doesn't prevent girls from going out and getting some.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:29 AM
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But would your grandpa be okay with your grandma having sex with some other dude? No If you think marriage is about love, then why can't your partner have sex with others, and come home to you for love + sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:25 AM
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I am a woman, and I don’t thing that any single unpartnered person owes anybody anything. If you want to pump and dump, be my guest. Cool. That's what we guys want to be. Your male mistress. And then maybe when we get to 40 or 50, settle down. WTF? Meaning you, "Mr. Billy", will be okay just as long as you have a woman by the time you're 30 years old. Doesn't matter to you that you didn't sleep around because you couldn't. And doesn't matter that your woman could. You're just happy to have a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:14 AM
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CreightonWAbrams says: Because the idea that a woman owes her "purity" to a man she has never met and doesn't even know exists is mentally ill. And for the women who date around and have LTRs while they are single, the likelihood that they will want to marry some guy who gets all stern and patriarchish at her for behaving like a normal young woman is slim to none. And Slim is headed for the door. It impacts you because the playing field is different for women than you - it's easier for her to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 12:49 AM
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CreightonWAbrams says: ???? I've been married for nearly 20 years. So then what's with the whole taking offense to me saying you'll be somebody's future wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 12:01 AM
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STDs - he will get tested and wear condom (that's double protection) crazy people - your partner met you and you turned out not to be crazy; there are signs of who is crazy Bad sex - give them the benefit of the doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 12:00 AM
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Or you could find a girl who has a similar partner count and values as you. No one is safe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:23 PM
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I am. And I'm spreading the message to other guys. The solution is to become the player / male mistress. Work on yourself. Advertise yourself as the prize. Learn how to pick up chicks. Have sex with women and then ghost, or do calculated serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:23 PM
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Noice
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:15 PM
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And that's all I ask. I'm not sure what kind of impact it would have if guys started doing this on a mass scale. We'd have a society that basically knew if it could get sex, wouldn't settle down. If you knew you had the skills, why would you settle? We would have "merry go round until you're 50". Premeditated serial monogamy is what we'd have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:10 PM
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Saying "because the rules of the relationship was monogamous" doesn't hit at the heart of the problem - we have to keep digging and ask why it's monogamous. If your girl requests to sleep with someone for one night, giving you advance notice, there is no reason for you to deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:06 PM
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What kind of world do you want, anyway? What's the alternative to all these "problems"? Great question! The solution is to become the player / male mistress. Work on yourself. Advertise yourself as the prize. Learn how to pick up chicks. Have sex with women and then ghost. Or do serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:59 PM
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Why are you dodging the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:51 PM
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Why was there the request for such?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:46 PM
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Stephen curry?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:39 PM
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But if they have sex with another, you dump them. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:38 PM
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I don't judge, because I'm not really particularly interested in other people's sex lives It's not a matter about being interested in their sex lives or not. It impacts you because the playing field is different for women than you. That's what should concern you, the fact that you would be okay to get rebounds. It allows females to go and get used, and then have a plan to fall back on, because Mr. Billy like yourself will just be glad he has a woman. They know they can do this shit because guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:33 PM
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You're splitting hairs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:26 PM
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I mean, you settle down at some point. It's not a "merry go round until you're dead". Or maybe it is. Serial monogamy is a joke. That is exactly why I hate to play this game. But I have no choice, because everybody else and people like you think long term commitment is absurd as shown by your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:24 PM
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tomayto tomahto. I'm talking about actual results with girls. Lack of results = beta. Successful lays = alpha. Thats all that mattes to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:22 PM
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it not about the lying and the cheating; that is splitting hairs; to define the relationship as monogamous to begin with proves its about the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:19 PM
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Dafuq? Chill out. You're needy as frick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 01:01 PM
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Marriage is definitely a no no, not with our current atmosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:53 PM
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The way I see it, you either get punked or be the punker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:51 PM
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I don't understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:50 PM
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Feminists would come after you if they heard that. They don't like you to believe that they have sex for relationships. They're right. Let's stop feeding this bullcrap where women are little angels. That came about just to protect women from being labeled sluts. "It's always the men who pressure women into having sex", we are fed. Anyway, come out with me for a night. You haven't seen eye opening shit yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:46 PM
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It's going to take a little bit. You have to understand I lived 22 years of my life under false vanilla bullshit. That is no joke. Yea, eventually I'll simmer down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:44 PM
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Yes, you have to play the game or else get left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:42 PM
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Not really. I'd like to stay in on friday nights and watch a movie. Going out is a pain in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:08 PM
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You're 23....you have better things to be doing than subscribing to this kind of absolutist bullshit. I mean, I'm not going to harp on it every day. It did deserve one post though. People deserve to be told the truth, rather than the vanilla version. I was fed that vanilla bullshit for 22 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:58 AM
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All that you wrote is irrelevant. "We do it like this in the west" is irrelevant to me painting the reality of it and all that it entails. I am critiquing what exists, not the label it has. At the end of the day, guys right now are catching on at a scary rate, and every guy wants to be the player. "Good guys" don't want whores anymore. And the players are there to pump and dump. So the only way to win is to become that guy who pumps and dumps. So guys are either gravitating towards pick up cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:13 AM
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Dude, sex is the embodiment of the relationship. If you give sex to another person, they will literally dump you over it. That's how vital sex is to a relationship. A relationship is essentially sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 07:09 AM
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No. I did not equate it. Sex is the definition of the relationship. No sex = no relationship, eventually. Sex means A LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:51 AM
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I know right? Why wouldn't they? For Jesus? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:41 AM
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If your partner has sex with another person while you're married, would you dump him? yes If your partner helped take out the trash of another woman, would you dump him? No If your partner helped change the tire for another woman, would you dump him? No
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:39 AM
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If you wanna be married to a back stabber. GO. do it. Think that your lovely virgin will never see another male. That's what I'm saying, the only way to win the game is to become the player yourself and stay away from marriage. Be the one doing the tearing apart of relationships. Heh. And that is how My father was conceived. (There was not divorce at the age, my poor grandfather died without knowing) This doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:35 AM
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It's not what I'd want for my kids, lol, but I understand it would be necessary in order for them to keep up. Playing the game not because you want to but because you have to. We are all being played if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:32 AM
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Dude, I'm saying compared to back in the old days. Or in societies where it REALLY is shamed. You haven't seen real shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:28 AM
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At the end of the day, the only way to ensure you're not a loser in the game as a guy is to learn some attractive behavioral tweaks, and then let the pump and dump begin. And when guys begin to get that skillset, then he gets on that on that pump and dump plan, instead of settling down. It's catch 22. There is no alpha guy who settles for marriage until after he's fucked 40 or 50 women, for better or for worse. And THAT, is a more level playing field, if not better. Is it ideal? Not really. I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 06:23 AM
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Well, I* am judging them. The only reason I play the game is to keep up, not because it's what I truly want or envision. The fact that serial monogamy exists proves that guys don't judge women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:42 AM
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Not really. My idea of relationships growing up was that couples are committed. I didn't know breaking up occurred on a regular basis, like changing underwear. Then I realized this was just an excuse to slut around. It's a "loophole" if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:41 AM
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Man, I just don't want moral victories anymore. I feel like a punk for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:38 AM
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Pick up advice has been around for decades. I've seen some PUA stuff going back as far as the 70s. That shit was archaic, lol. They had people "memorizing" stories, for god's sake. Don't ever compare now and then. the depravity of human sexuality Tell me about it. Fucking in club bathrooms. Asking a complete stranger to take you home and fuck you. The trust level is insane in these girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:34 AM
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If you were an alpha you wouldn't be making this thread and saying what you are saying. Why not? I still have a "beta" past. I'm still coming around and working through my past. It's still fresh on my mind. I was like that until freaking 22. But I agree. Eventually, I'll come around and laugh at myself for making this post. It still has value though for people who come across it and are open minded. "Alpha" is really just a generalization. Different people use it to mean different things, IMO. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:31 AM
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Well guys have always had this freedom to some extent? Playing devil's advocate: Technically, male sluts don't exist if female sluts don't exist. My belief is that a lot men tie in way too much ego to how much they get laid It's not ego, it's genetic. And a lot of girls seek male validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:23 AM
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Cool. Yea, I guess a girl can't deny you sex if you're attractive (in behavior and appearance), even if you're out just to get sex (not telling them that of course). There's no defense against it, lol. At least, I'm spreading the message and helping other guys break loose and see the current playing field. Thanks for the comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:15 AM
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Serial monogamy Thanks for the terminology. I didn't know it had a term. I guess others are aware of this shit too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:11 AM
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Not sure why that matters. I'm 23. I was a virgin until 22. Started digging into some eye opening shit. At first I resisted it. I wanted to stay in my comfortable reality. I labeled these guys misogynists. Eventually came around, bought in, then realized the impact my new belief system had on my success. I'm just passing on the message, because I encountered something similar here on reddit, that triggered all of this. I dodged a bullet. Now I'm back to post this shit because I am bitter about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:03 AM
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I mean we're kind of agreeing here. Fuck women in your 20s and even your 30s, then get the best of the litter. Everyone is trying to be that guy now. Most guys don't want to settle before they've fucked 20 or 30 women, because of this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:56 AM
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I know what you're saying, and I've thought about that myself. "I don't have to live like this if I don't want to". BUT, you don't know if your woman has done this shit. And that just causes you to play the game, or else be a possible loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:53 AM
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And how is that contradictory?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:49 AM
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or, you yourself could commit to going in the opposite direction if you chose to. because you have free will and the ability to set your own standards. That's the thing though. You're like "if others are not buying into this system, why should I?" And this is happening on a massive scale where people are thinking that. Everyone is thinking "well damn, I'd like to be the guy who fucks a girl and then can be on my way".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:46 AM
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I mean, I'm just spreading the message. I used to be a fool, until I came across similar posts on reddit. While I'm successful now, I'm still bitter for my past. They don't teach guys this shit. Society is just breeding straight up cucks. And so yea. My post will live on on the internet, for guys to encounter. My incentive for doing it is just that I'm bitter about the years I lost, lol. Go watch some videos. You'll slowly buy into it. At first I denied this shit also, and I labeled these guys t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:40 AM
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The good ole "but I'm not like that, so that proves your theory wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:37 AM
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I have trouble following your logic here. So most men are not promiscuous because they cant be even if they want to, yet most women are promiscuous because they can be, yet choose not to. If we are going to make a definition for something can we please be consistent. I.e. if a person sleeps around in action they are promiscuous, intent and ease to do so do not count. Traditionally, it wasn't easy for guys to become promiscuous. They were taking dating advice from women and feminist TV shows. Now…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:33 AM
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Duh? thats the point. I had a very specific definition of "lover". I defined that. It's the guy who's out to fuck girls and wants nothing else to do with them. He will fuck and at the end get his pick of the liter IF he even decides to settle down. It's the guy who is "taking the virginity" of your wives, breaking them in for you, so that you can love once she falls in your hands. Compared to death , this seems fair enough. Let them be. Women will never stop being like that. Why bother trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:25 AM
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There's a lot of people having FWB or boyfriend/girlfriend sex which is on some levels casual (there is no permanent commitment but there is a sort of temporary monogamy) who are not in general promiscuous. The only direction it can go is: 1) open relationships becoming the norm 2) "committing" to a new partner every year (<-- this is the current situation)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:20 AM
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You are a cuck in the sense that you are pussywhipped. You are just glad that pussy has fallen in your lap, even if it is the leftover of the litter. You probably feel lucky to hold the door open for a woman, a woman who is getting dug out every weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:17 AM
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The only direction it can go is: 1) open relationships becoming the norm 2) "committing" to a new partner every year (<-- this is the current situation)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:12 AM
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Your point? Don't assume we know what you're saying. Write it out using logic that flows. The burden is on you. I feel like you think you exposed something, but can't follow what it is you think you exposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:08 AM
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But many people don't know that, because it is hidden in the haystack. So everybody then goes to replicate what they're shown as the norm. So this system feeds back positively on itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:08 AM
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It was literally discussed in the original post. LMAO. Did you even read?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:05 AM
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A. Again, you prove my point. Men see other men getting ass, and they want to replicate that. Why possibly end up with a chick who some guy enjoyed freely along with many other men's wives? B. Alpha and beta-ness is not set in stone. I'm an example of that. Is fucking women endlessly what I want? No. But I feel like I have no other option, otherwise I'll be a "beta". I was a virgin at 22. Started watching these videos and starting getting results. I get a new chick at least every month, if not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:03 AM
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You're trying too hard
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:51 AM
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Dude, you're repeating stuff already agreed upon in the original post. As a guy, I would feel like a cuck if I wasn't one of those promiscuous guys. Therefore, this system just encourages guys to dump girls and go after many women, even if what they had in mind was to settle down and raise a family. You get DRAGGED into the race. That's fine, I'll fuck girls [and dump them] You have millions of videos on youtube in the past decade teaching men to fuck women, and waking men up. Fine, Ill play the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:48 AM
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Our sexual freedom culture has dis-incentivized that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:43 AM
1

Then you are cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:41 AM
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Sucks balls if your a low status male though. Like I said, these videos are coming and helping men flip the script on women These videos have helped me tremendously. Now that I'm becoming an "alpha", I'm like "why commit?" If I can have a new chick every week or every two weeks, then what's the point of committing? Committing is a beta move - that's what sexual freedom has taught me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:41 AM
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And? Who cares Did you read the original post up top? That's what that addresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:38 AM
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I do agree though. Sexual repression of women was a beta invention. It favors betas, of course. You prove my point. Nobody wants to be a beta because they'll think what you're saying. So if they are family oriented, they'll feel like a beta. Thus, we are getting DRAGGED into this race, even when it isn't what we truly value, even wehn we don't trully value fucking many many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:37 AM
2

Well, you can't just go to sleep on this shit and pretend it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:20 AM
3

There is a huge push right now to avoid marriage and is gaining momentum.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:19 AM
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What reasons would those be, lol? Sex is the glue that holds a relationship together. It's not for the bills and the diapers, buddy. You need a reality check. EDIT: sex is the embodiment of the relationship. If you give sex to another person, they will literally dump you over it. That's how vital sex is to a relationship. A relationship is essentially sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 03:18 AM
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Go ahead and attend to your commitment of the year. It's a new year. Means a new commitment. Disgusting as hell. And you all are proud of it, SMH. Technological advancement =/= social advancement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:15 AM
2

Where did you run to?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:13 AM
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It seems like you have to become a player to win under this system (you don't have a choice), even if what you really value is just to have a family. "If you can't beat them, join them". Play along or get left behind, even when you don't like to fuck a new chick every other week. You don't like that? Oh you must be a beta male
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:19 AM
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1) It's not about what you like, I'm sure you're wife will like me. It's her say, not yours. 2) If I believe in a system where casual sex is good, then I would have to let you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:03 AM
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That's the thing. I need people to own up and realize they're being hypocritical. Don't insist exclusivity cuz that doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:01 AM
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When is it ever "committed" under your system? I wouldn't call that committed if every other year you are "committed" to someone new.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:37 PM
1

The old ways of fucking 10 or more people until you find the next partner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:12 PM
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Marriage is about the present situation, but they still believe in their old ways. And they still believe that if they were to divorce, they would go back to their old ways. The belief didn't change, just the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:03 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LukyMYp2noo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:44 PM
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Why is it dumb? It's not like once people get married they believe in a society that looks down on premarital sex. Maybe you missed my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:43 PM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:23 PM
1

Society is in an anxiety frenzy, trying to win the get-laid race. It's sad that people let themselves get dragged into this race because they think "what other option do I have?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:23 AM
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You're just insecure You don't let your wife get fucked by other dudes? You're just insecure You don't want to marry a pornstar? You're just insecure Apparently, you have to be gay, bisexual, open to fucking animals, and everything in the book, or else you're insecure or bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:19 AM
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Frankly I'm just disappointed and saddened by the literal decay of society and I was never even a very conservative person. Just erroneously believed in what we call the blue pill dream. So I'm past what you're talking about and am actively creaming these girls, but still lament the death of benevolent dreams. Nicely put. These are my feelings as well. People will say "no, it's the sex", as if you just don't have any values. It's like the "you're just insecure" card.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:16 AM
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Except that's not what we're discussing here. The concept of marriage and exclusivity breaks down under your system. That's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:08 AM
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All of that is fine. Except that's not what we're discussing here. The concept of marriage and exclusivity breaks down under your system. That's why you have a declining marriage rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:06 AM
1

Can I enjoy your wife for 1 night?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:04 AM
1

Nice. Avoiding the question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 11:27 PM
1

Your culture has a possibility of that happening
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 11:26 PM
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Most people assortatively mate, reproduce, and pass on their middling values. Sometimes they fuck up and choose poorly, its not the end of the world. Divorce is fine. Once or twice. Divorce and premarital sex have always existed Divorce is fine. No one is arguing with you there. As for premarital sex, its existence depends on whether culture thinks it's ok or not. Given the steady exodus of goatfuckistans to godless secular nations, it seems people are tired of the honor killing way of handling …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 11:07 PM
1

You would be ok with your mom doing a porn shoot with 5 guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:48 PM
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i didnt even try to or care to refute your points. im refuting your existence That's kind of the point of a discussion. If you attack the person instead, that's straw man. Or you're hijacking the discussion. Atlas B Shrugging, you need remedial training. Womp womp wooomp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:45 PM
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Atlas_B_Shruggin says: im not commiting any fallacies because im not making any arguments. i am point blank telling you that no one gives a flying fuck about your shit-hole-istani values or wants our culture to resemble yours. im not "Refuting your points", im denying your premise that shitholestan values is any place from which to criticize the west, outright If you're not refuting the points with legitimate reasons, that is straw man, LMAO. Womp womp womp. You need remedial training. My origin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:36 PM
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Atlas_B_Shrugging says: no one cares about what muslims think of advanced technological civilization and its mores and norms Cool. Except that wasn't the discussion. You have committed two fallacies thus far: A. straw man B. black and white thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:17 PM
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Like I said in the original post, at that point exclusivity doesn't make sense. It's simply a temporal difference - whether others fucked your partner before vs. now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:10 PM
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Love for the girl who's essentially been in the equivalent of a porn shoot with 5 guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:59 PM
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Atlas_B_Shruggin says: You grew up in a backwards primitive shithole that no english speaking person would want to live in. Most white people want to nuke whatever disgusting foreign culture you grew up in. Why do you fucking trash muslims think the white people who grew up in advanced technological liberal western civilization care about your shithole critiques of our culture. Exactly what leg to stand on do any of you have to criticize the west? No one wants to live in your third world garbage…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:57 PM
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You don't have much of a choice but to defend & rationalize your mother's ways. It's called bias. Obviously you're not going to say "my parents ways were wrong". Would you be so ready to defend it if you grew up in a culture where sex was special between two lovers, vs just a way "to release steam" as you guys put it, LMAO? "Yea mom I went to get fucked by a random guy I met on tinder and release steam, but I'm home now and relieved of my horniness, did you make dinner?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:56 PM
1

Right, pick the girl who has been around the block to be the mother of your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:39 PM
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So it's about the bills? LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:38 PM
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IMO, the progressive culture is in a transitional state between old ways (Christianity and marriage) and new ways (atheism and casual sex). Eventually, marriage will die off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:59 PM
1

It is not about what I say, it is about what is true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:08 PM
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Nah, I'm not interested. Why I gotta do that just to "keep up"? Like, why compromise your values just to "keep up"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:07 PM
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Hey I remember I beat you that one time in that debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:52 PM
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How am I attacking a race? I didn't say anything negative about black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 06:59 PM
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Obviously I'm not going to do it face to face. Anonymously through social media or something. It actually seems like a fun hobby I can fill my time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 06:16 AM
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Read my edit. You replied too quickly than I anticipated
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:48 AM
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It depends on who you're asking. I'd say it's bad for both - they're both sluts. But western society in general congratulates men for it, and I find that sexist. I can only speak as a man, who had been a virgin until recently. In the end, I was like "fuck it", I guess nobody finds sex to be a special activity anymore. In fact, I'm going to try to pump and ghost as much as possible from now on. Let it burn down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:46 AM
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I mean, that's why slut shaming exists. To prevent girls from getting with these dudes. To discourage getting pumped and pumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:23 AM
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You go right ahead and sniff coke from a black dude's ass
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:21 AM
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We guys do it knowing this is wrong, feeling bad for how slutty she is. Like "I can't believe you're actually doing this". But we put on our mask and fuck her. If I pass up the opportunity, she'll get it somewhere else. I don't approve of her sluttery. But I won't deny her. That's the best way I can sum it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:59 AM
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Well, I'm trying to do damage in the process. My end goal is to go after girls with BFs and husbands, get affairs going, and then tell the BF or husband what she did. Exposing sluts 2019.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:54 AM
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Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:44 AM
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Doesn't sound fun to me either. Seem like stupid = fun. It's that peer pressure. People can't think for themselves and dictate their own sense of cool. "Do what everyone else is doing to fit in".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:41 AM
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It's rising and rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:57 AM
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You are ok with your daughter or mom doing a porn shoot with 5 black guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:22 AM
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I'm taking it all the way. Fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:21 AM
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We can't have it half way. If we're going half way, we need to go all the way. Why stop half way?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:47 AM
1

I don't want society to reverse it's opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:38 AM
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You can easily click away in all those situations. The point is, I don't want it to become a thing where people realize the bad effects of all of this What is UMc
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:37 AM
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No - on youtube, on television, on reddit, etc. Basically, marriage is dying fast. I don't know what the consequences will be. Probably not good. Everybody's incentive has become risk free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:34 AM
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Yea, the message was sluttery is bad. But since society doesn't mind, then let's burn it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:33 AM
1

I didn't mean literally to me. I meant on the internet, in society, in the news - "the growing blah blah blah problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:31 AM
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Where else would they bitch? Out on the streets? You don't think wisely
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:27 AM
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Let it keep rolling. I want every kid to have 3 dads. I want adultery to go up. I just want it all to turn into a shitshow. I will do my part to help, and fuck girls in relationships, and then ruin marriages. Once you learn the ins and outs of how to become a frat boy, you have cracked the code. The world is in your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:25 AM
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Are you saying you should give your youth to hookups and then expect someone to get your leftover years?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:21 AM
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Well, I'm not sure if it counts as hurting people, but I would eventually like to fuck girls in relationships and then let their BF/husband know about it. I'm still practicing, but that is my final advanced level stage I want to reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:19 AM
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Again, if they're okay with calling me over for casual fuck, I'm down. But I don't want them expecting anything more. If husband is out of town and you need a quick fix, I'll be right over. Take the kids to bed and let's get it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:14 AM
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Cool. But I don't want to hear anyone bitch in 10 or 20 years about how this is causing problems. This won't end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:03 AM
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^ This girl knows what she's doing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:45 AM
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They end up trying to make me theirs. I ain't for that. I like to have the freedom to fuck the next beauty I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:41 AM
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Because it's fun. No need to stay for the headache. Just go for the sex and go your own way. I need my numbers to go up too so I can look cool to the dudebros. I also like to cause dramas and breakups. I need to get dedicated women to cheat and lose their relationship. I want to tell their hubbys or BFs that they fucked me, so I can warn them about their ho's
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:24 AM
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Pump and ghost 2019. Let's get it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:23 AM
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Did I hurt your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:04 AM
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Either way. I'm pumping and ghosting. I need to have a reason to do so. Leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:03 AM
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Guys either fall into two categories. The guys who pump and dump - they take issue with my post. The simps - who are okay with girls spending their youth with college dudebro, as long as he gets her leftover years. If you are a successful doctor or lawyer and fall into this category, you are a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:01 AM
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We're not talking about that PhD fraternity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:59 PM
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Explore sex, lol You need a dildo bro. And earrings too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:57 PM
1

I would love the opportunity to pay these hoes in the form of pump and dump and spread their misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:55 PM
1

Could be either way. Could be that the dude bro was just fun college hookup, but no longer has value in the adult world. So she leaves him. Or maybe the dudebro is actually successful, in which case he dumps her for the next younger babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:32 PM
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My message is to pump and dump women. Don't marry. 2019. Let's go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:29 PM
1

Nah, you can still pump and dump them responsibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:29 PM
2

Then clearly you're missing the point of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:28 PM
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We end up married the men the frat boys, athletes and druggies turn into. Sorry. Then end up single mommas. HAHAHa. "All men are assholes, waaaa waaa"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:27 PM
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No, I want to teach men to not be simps and opening their eyes. Spreading the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:52 PM
1

Why not pump and dump and get real number though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:52 PM
0

Yes. I will start enjoying that pump and dump life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:51 PM
2

Right. I guess pump and dump is good. Im going to get on that pump and dump diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:33 PM
2

If your number is too high, then that excuse no longer applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:31 PM
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No reason I guess. Pump and dump is good I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 10:30 PM
1

Amen. That's why you should become that guy. Treat hos like a ho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:54 PM
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Then that's the consequence you should live with. Simps shouldn't be coming to you - the damsel in distress - feeling lucky for the chance to lick her feet and hold her the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:53 PM
1

No keep giving the youth to the coke head dude bro for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:50 PM
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I am emotional that other people might fall for this. I almost became that dude. And I turned the ship around before it was too late. Now all I will ever do is pump and ghost. This is the sexually selected behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:49 PM
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Nice. Avoiding the question. I guess my point was received.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:47 PM
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The past matters. Years pass by. Now she's older, and you as a guy could be pursuing younger women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:45 PM
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She is on a lease with the coke head dude bro. Then when the car is old, the coke head dudebro is either no longer desired or he drops the old car at the dealership. That's why you should be wary of girls with a high N count or are in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:43 PM
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The guys are not idiots. They play cool unti they get sex and then ghost. EVERYBODY and their grandma knows that's what guys are after. We have sexually selected for these types of guys. The lack of slut shaming has paved the way for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:42 PM
1

Why they don't keep each other though? Why are they on a temporary lease for each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:39 PM
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You are okay with your mom being in a porn shoot with 5 black guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:38 PM
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Have you been to a party university? You are naive. These girls do not end up with those guys. Why? That is the mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:34 PM
3

Well, they don't tell themselves that. But that's what they respond to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:33 PM
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Right, let's normalize everything. Let the sluts have an insurance plan to fall back on when the lease is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:30 PM
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It means she was on lease in her youth and tied up so that you couldn't get access to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:27 PM
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Well, women celebrate them, so... And why shouldn't they? Everyone is trying to go after the best. But it's a double edged sword. You get your ass dumped after the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:25 PM
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A. That's impossible. Don't be naive. B. That's all you can assume. You don't have a N-o-meter. So just go for younger ladies always. They love older dudes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:21 PM
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No. I like how you twist things. Slut mean getting passed around. I'm not saying "all the girls in world should only sleep with me". She's still a slut f or being in the gangbang, regardless of whether Im a part of it. The only reason I'd join is because this is what girls like - to be treated like this. I'm transitioning to the guy that pumps and ghosts. Got two already in the last month. Before that, I was a virgin. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:20 PM
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Guys should always go after younger women. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:19 PM
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It doesn't mean it decreases drive later. It means she wasn't with you in her youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:18 PM
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That's exactly who I am in the transition of becoming. I'm lucky I realized this before it was too late. My motto is to just sleep with sluts, then ghost them. I got 2 chicks so far in the past month. Before that, I was a virgin. I'm trying to get my numbers up broski. You can't tell girls you're going to just sleep with them. That is socially unintelligent. The smart way to do it is to just do it and then ghost. That's how you play and win this game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:17 PM
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I'd be balls deep in it. But that's all it's worth - a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:14 PM
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You misunderstood. It doesn't decrease their youth. But they do this shit until they get old and ready to settle down. So they spend their youth on these types of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:14 PM
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So you passed the girls around to get your numbers up. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:12 PM
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I don't get you feminists. You are jealous of attractive girls getting laid. Yet the more you promote females right and this feminist shit, it doesn't hurt anybody but yourself. The attractive girls get laid even more by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 03:33 PM
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They are improving and waking up to not marry. Chances are, you yourself fall in the last category of the heirarchy and are part of some female coalition with a bunch of fat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 03:30 PM
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Haha. It's always the alpha dude you girls are trying to tie down. What you all don't get is that that's not the type of person that the alpha is. Why would he settle when he can it any day of the week? He won't. Of course, he dumps your ass for the next one. With the whole red pill and mgtow beginning, guys are all improving themselves and not settling for whores. Nobody wants the alpha's leftovers. Everybody wants to be the alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:29 PM
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The burden is on you to prove why sex with others while in a relationship matters. We've already been through this. It boils down to: We agreed to monogamy <-- not a good reason; cop out I'm scared of disease <-- solution = assume he is tested
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:07 AM
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Exactly man. It doesn't add up when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 01:49 PM
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I think were on the same side. This post is criticizing those who say a they don't care about high N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 12:59 AM
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Don't be paranoid. You probably hooked up with people before you got married without doing all this investigation. Why investigate now? "Do you have lice?" check "DO you have hep C?" check Get outta here Otherwise, you have to subscribe to the belief that N count matters as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 12:03 PM
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Assume he is getting tested. Assume it's anal sex. Assume a condom is worn. If you're not happy still, throw this in there: he will just put the tip in for 10 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:20 AM
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Assume he is tested and will wear condoms
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:11 AM
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Girls don't care about all that; they may say they do, but will continue providing the aforementioned guy sex until they seriously start to get old and panic. He's either attractive and a player, or not attractive and a beta. It's the nature of the beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 05:08 AM
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Thing is though, a guywho is going to have both ain'tgonna be the faithful type. Why the fuck would he settle? He will keep going well into his 40s before settling down with a 25 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 03:11 AM
1

Whatever the term for it may be, you cannot deny the bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:10 PM
1

Being followed down the street shouting should not put anyone on a sex offender list. This stuff is taken more seriously than murder in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:51 PM
1

If you ask "do you want to have sex with me", her pussy will dry up like the sahara
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:38 PM
1

The biggest thing I fear in law is selective application of rules. One person commits the same crime but goes unpunished whereas another one does. Can you see how this leads to corruption? That is the current state of our government.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:16 PM
1

A case of regrets. LOL. Preach it brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:10 PM
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LOL. You nailed it. I'm starting to think islam isn't so bad after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:08 PM
1

Already addressed this. Assume the wife isn't doing it behind your back, but asking you to let her fuck someone. Nw you have no reason to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:19 AM
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I'm actually on your side dummy. I'm just playing devil's advocate against people who say high N count doesn't matter. I am forcing them to take a position of polyamory, or else accusing them of insecurity, like they do people who hate high N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:18 AM
1

What does towns bicycle mean? That's just another way of saying she fucked a lot of people. What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:11 AM
1

Whoops. I think I typed that for someone else. Town's bicycle means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:05 AM
1

That's fine by me. Some poly is still poly. No poly is irrational. Dont get upset if the guy she finds is hotter than the girl you find.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:01 AM
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See my edit. Let's go with that (it will be only a one time thing). Will you be ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:59 AM
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My point is, a strictly monogamous relationship doesn't make sense. How much poly you want it to have is up to you. But to deny any poly is not rational. EDIT: for arguments sake, assume it will only be once
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:57 AM
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I mean, it could be more if you want it to be, but an occasional yearly polygamous one night stand wouldn't be irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:54 AM
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Edit: My argument does have value. Its point is that strict monogamy doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:52 AM
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You're dodging the real question, which is why you can't budge to let her have 1 one night stand after discussing it with you. To say "that's not what I agreed to" is dodging the question. Why can't you budge? Why do you have to stick to your original rule? I am not outright for an open relationship, but if she later discussed she wants it, and I know that she went through me to see if I'm okay with it, then at that point I wouldn't have a reason to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:50 AM
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I don’t need any more reason than that. That's what people against a high N count say I would no longer trust that she’d be faithful. If anything it shows she is faithful. She could have done it behind your back instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:37 AM
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But a one time coordinated sexual event outside of the marriage - for anyone to deny that - is insecurity. It doesn't have to be a regular event. It can be a once a year type of polygamy. There is nothing wrong with that, rationally. Your preferences are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:32 AM
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Doesn't matter. We already went through this. I want to know WHY you can't budge. What is your reason for not budging when she is trying to convince you to let it be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:30 AM
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You are insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:29 AM
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It's not like she is doing it behind your back. She is trying to convince you to change your position. She is telling you about it. Saying "but that's what we agreed to" is not a good response. REASONS. Why can't you budge? Give us your reason for THAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:28 AM
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I agreed to be exclusive But its not being done behind your back. If it was, your argument would hold valid. But you not budging when she is trying to convince you to do it isn't helped by saying "but that's what I agreed to". Why can't it be changed? Reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:27 AM
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Fine, I'll take that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:25 AM
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If you can actually find someone to have sex with. We all know girls get sex easier than guys. So good luck on your part. But anyhow, that's fine by me, as long as you actually believe that and would support that, not just to solve a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:23 AM
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So you are not okay with her cheating in the event she brings it up with you. And you have no rational reason to support that. We are literally in the same argument as with people who frown upon high N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:19 AM
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Jealousy and feeling inadequate and threatened and that your partner will leave you; also wanting to have exclusivity to your wife for no rational reason other than to fence her off from others. Wanting to feel like you are her special snowflake
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:18 AM
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We don't need to debate on cheating. All we need to do is address this: Your wife is asking she wants sex with another. Do you agree or disagree? If you disagree, you are insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:15 AM
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if 1 of them doesn’t agree with it There is no reason why 1 one of them should disagree with it. STD is taken care of. It's anal sex, so no worry about pregnancy. Throw in a condom. That leaves insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:12 AM
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But she wants you to be okay with it before she does it. That's not cheating. She will do it as soon as you give her permission. If you don't give her permission, you are just butthurt
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:10 AM
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That’s fine if that’s agreed upon by both partners Why shouldn't/wouldn't it be? policy is applied unilaterally Well the guy shes trying to fuck doesn't have anyone to give you in return
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:09 AM
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It's not cheating if she's letting you know. You're denying her because you are butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:08 AM
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Monogmay DOESN'T make sense. Responsible polygamy or sex with partner's permission once in a blue moon (which denying would indicate insecurity) makes more sense. It will effectively eliminate cheating, while we're at it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:06 AM
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Like I said earlier, permission doesn’t mean there won’t be consequences. The consequence exists because you are butthurt
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:05 AM
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Like she’s already lost so much respect for me that she’s willing to ask me directly instead of sneaking around afraid of being caught. Why should she fear asking you? See that's the problem we have in society. If we didn't have an negative attitude about letting our wife fuck another person with condoms on and STD checked, wives wouldn't be afraid to ask their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:04 AM
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Yes he did. The car can be kidnapped. The partner won't be kidnapped any more than getting kidnapped just being out and about. We know you're not concerned about her getting kidnaped. You are concerned about her getting dirty sex with another male.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:02 AM
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Again that's a weird way to attack a write up. Either way, attack it with reasons, not insults
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:00 AM
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promise to be monogamous That's not a tangible reason. That is a cop out argument. I already said she runs it by you. So it's not considered cheating or doing it behind your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:59 AM
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He got you tho, either way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:59 AM
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The issue is I DO care about the emotional aspect of it, and would be bothered by the thought that my partner may like/love the other person more than m That is insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:58 AM
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If both parties agreed to monogamy when entering the relationship then that’s how it stays What if during the course of the relationship one partner asks the other for a one time sex with another person. Saying "because it began as monogamous" is not a good argument. We need concrete reasons. I'm not talking about cheating. It is not being done behind our back. She is asking your permission. To deny her is insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:57 AM
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It won't be exclusive. She will just fuck one person and that's it. You have to be gone either way. So just once. She will provide you with STD testing and wear a condom, and record it as proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:55 AM
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You are not ready to allow your partner have sex with another if he asks you about it. This is insecurity. It is based on irrationality. Just like a person who is concerned over N count. My point is why do you criticize those who frown upon N count for that same reason? Why is having sex with others vehemently off the table during a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:53 AM
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How is it betrayal if she lets you know beforehand. She's not lying about anything or doing it behind your back. She has made you aware of it. You denying it is insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:49 AM
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aznphenix got you. You is ded
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:48 AM
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She said brain damage. That's personal. And if it's an attack on the argument, it's a weird way to attack an argument. Better yet, don't attack the argument, explain why it is wrong/bad/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:46 AM
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Personal attacks are a sign of defeat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:34 AM
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Fine, not cheating. But her asking you to let her fuck another guy for once. You have no reason to deny that. She told you, so it's not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:33 AM
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Ok, but we're not talking about cheating. I'm talking about if your wife asks you she wants to be fucked by someone else for once, you have no reason to deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:31 AM
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Let's throw out everything and just state this: Your wife tells you she wants to have sex with this one person she knows and she will bring him over. Why would you disagree? Saying "because it's monogamous" doesn't address the question. Provide rational concrete answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:27 AM
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Why insist on monogamy if not for insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:25 AM
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Then you lost. Goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:46 AM
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What I'm saying is what lengthy discussion is there to have, as you seem to make appear like is needed. It's not about the needs of the people or whatever other philosophical crap. When woman asks husband she wants to fuck, it needs to be an automatic yes. There is no reason for it to be anything else. No lengthy discussions requires.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:46 AM
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And why should changing from mono to poly be denied, for a one night event? It's insecurity I tell ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:31 AM
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You said you can't trust her. What can't you trust her with? All she said is she wants sex. She didn't say she will leave you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:30 AM
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Give me LOGICAL reason why it's weird. Being frustrated and saying bye doesn't explain anything. Don't assume I would think the way you do. Outline why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:16 AM
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How am I ridiculous? You didn't turn into a horse, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:09 AM
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THANK YOU so much. We need to highlight this response to the top. That's what these people aren't getting. When you flip the table on them, they get butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:07 AM
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I’m changing the subject now too. Let’s say you give someone permission to kill you. That means it’s not murder, right? Explain your logic now. How is getting permission considered cheating. SMH Why can't you trust her? Are you butthurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:06 AM
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It's not a cop out. She wants anal sex with someone. Will you let her do it, just this once.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:05 AM
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No. You're just dragging this elsewhere. I'm keeping you focused on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:04 AM
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Cheating is bad because the person promised to do something (be faithful and monogamous) and then deliberately broke that promise But what if she requests at one point during the monogamous relationship if you will let her fuck some other guy. In other words, she's not cheating behind your back. So that takes care of the trust issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:04 AM
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Agreed. Why should he care? If you are disease free, then there is nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:02 AM
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Anyway, what about anal sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 01:15 AM
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There isn't a good reason why if your girls asks to bring someone over to fuck her, why you would say no. That's all. Don't make anything extra of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:59 AM
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One involves sexual past. The other is sexual present. Neither matters, as evidenced by lack of proper response to why a GF having sex outside of the relationship matters. That's all. Dont make anything more of it. Leave mice and rats alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:55 AM
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They have similar reasons, both of which are illogical and involve sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:43 AM
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The thread that I won at.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:39 AM
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You don't need to connect the two at all. But if you probe and keep asking questions, they both lead to the same answer - "because that's just my preference".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:37 AM
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That's right son. You gotta work hard. Now I will get back to addressing these real people with their real reasons. They have no real reason, just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:23 AM
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The fact that you had to pull something from the clouds like that only serves as proof that my argument is quite valid and strong. Again, I'm glad I made you work so hard. I have that kind of power over people. JAJAJA. Muahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:12 AM
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THANK YOU SIR. This Response needs to be highlighted. This is where the real problem boils down to IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:11 AM
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It's not YOUR theoretical argument. It's an argument. You don't agree with it, so it can't be yours. You went out of your way to address the thread, with a position you don't agree with your self. That means I did a damn well job of making you come up with some creative somersault, which you otherwise have no response for. I like to know I have that kind of power over people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:10 AM
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I'm fine with that. As long as I win, and YOU don't win, I don't mind A theoretical argument winning. I just thought you were thinking YOU won. That I have a problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:02 AM
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Your theoretical argument won. But your real self lost due to lack of a personal opinion. We still don't have an answer for why YOU mind her having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:58 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:56 PM
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Lol why did you run away?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:31 PM
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Good for people that don't watch porn and don't let their partner use vibrators. But that person isn't YOU. So YOU lose. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:18 PM
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I asked why do people here mind their GF having sex with others? 100% of the answers I got say they mind because they are insecure. That doesn't look like losing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:09 PM
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I never took it personally. I am objectively responding to you. So you are insecure for not letting your wife bring someone over for sex. Womp womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:02 PM
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So far, we have no real example of people believing your position on this thread. Come on buddy, take the loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:59 PM
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That's what I was looking to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:58 PM
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Dude. I said in my first damn comment that I was merely engaging in your thought experiment for fun. And how does that invalidate that I was looking for real answers and personal reasons? I may have engaged you due to missing the part about you just joking. But that doesn't invalidate that it is not a personal reason for you. Take the L buddy. It's ok to lose some.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:57 PM
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It wasn't a debate. It was me wanting to know real people's real reasons for minding their partner being involved sexually with others. Thanks for playing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:53 PM
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You didn’t win anything. You already admitted your argument was defeated That was before you revealed you were lying and didn't agree with it. LOl Womp Womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:51 PM
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I'm having trouble decoding what angle you're taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:51 PM
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I don't do non-monogamy and there's no tangible reason I should. I don't have to justify my feelings. That's what people who mind N count say, and you all bash them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:49 PM
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The argument I made still remains valid. I don’t agree with the position though. Except I wanted your personal reasons. I wanted to take a survey of real people and their reasons. You lost buddy. Womp womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:48 PM
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We are agreeing buddy. You don't want to marry a whore. So you flip the table on them. Unless you're MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:45 PM
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Because it doesn't do anything for me. It doesn't arouse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:44 PM
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Pump and dumps are valuable. The only person she could possibly leave him for is another pump and dump. It's the nature of the beast. Alphas are attractive because they have options, which only increases their option. They can afford to pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:43 PM
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Why would you disagree to your wife/husband wanting someone over to fuck if she has talked it over with you? Meaning she isn't doing it behind your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:42 PM
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What? What you're saying doesn't make sense. If you don't agree with your position, then that means your position is defeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:41 PM
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IMO, the alpha lover screws over women, because they can afford to and there are more alpha men than there are attractive women. The women screw over betas provider. The only way to win is to become an alpha lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:39 PM
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Ok, but why would you disagree to your wanting someone over to fuck if she has talked it over with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:37 PM
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Typically when someone makes personal attacks it’s because one takes it personal that they lost an argument. My attack was playful. Instead of just saying "you", I wanted to add variety and say "your ugly ass". It's a term of endearment. I guess you are not so smart. I applaud you trolling the bloops btw. You’re doing a great job. Just wanted to engage in a thought experiment with you so I chose an argument that could win. In other words, you do mind if your wife asks to bring someone over for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:35 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:33 PM
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Assume you're out of town for business for a week. And your wife has said she wants to bring someone over to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:33 PM
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we both value marital fidelity Infidelity means cheating. We already said assume it's not cheating. Assume she wants to have someone over to fuck her - so not behind your back. He/she will still be yours after the event.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:31 PM
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Where did I take it personally? It cost me nothing to write that. We still don't know if you actually watch porn or just said that to win the argument. You didn't defeat my argument. Many people can't admit they don't watch porn. So you may have won, but many others who don't mind N count can't all admit to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:28 PM
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Haha, it was for fun, not an actual attack. I don't know what you look like. But just to make sure it doesnt get interpreted as so, I will delete it, so as not to give you anything to latch onto.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:25 PM
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Why not? Do you have tangible reasons? This is where you guys corner people who mind high N count. Here you are in the same scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:24 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:22 PM
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I doubt you you don't watch porn, not even once. If not, then more power to you. But if you do watch porn, even for a second, that demands a divorce in your particular case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:21 PM
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I'm changing the subject. Let's do away with cheating. Now we are talking about her asking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:19 PM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:19 PM
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So she can't watch TV by herself? You can't play golf by yourself? Or do you just mean sexual pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:16 PM
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So you wouldn't let your wife use a vibrator?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:12 PM
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So you agree to allow it if she asks you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:11 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:10 PM
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What question. Can you post the question again?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:09 PM
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Why should it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:07 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:04 PM
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If she asks you in a monogamous relationship, what reason do you have to decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:04 PM
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It's mundane task. You don't seem to care if your wife sleeps in to get some extra rest. You don't demand she wake up and do a mundane task. So what hurt will a little pleasure do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:03 PM
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So you would say yes if she asks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:03 PM
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Cop out argument. She is on the pill + condom. Near 100% certainty. He is tested. It's cool. She is willing to take that risk. She will be responsible and get tested afterwards. Let's say you are on a 7 day vacation. Dude is tested for STDs. On the first day they have sex. On the 6th day she gets tested. That takes care of the disease part. Pretty much 100% certainty. Otherwise don't open your door and leave the house either, because there's a rsk you'll get hit by a car. As for pregnancy, if sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:01 PM
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You would rather the mother of your children do a mundane task? Or treat herself to some pleasure while you're away? That's insecurity my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:55 PM
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She is on the pill and will wear a condom. He will be tested. Why is them having sex bad? Those methods pretty much guarantee a 99.99% no pregnancy. If you are scared of 0.001%, then how do you even open the door and walk out of your house?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:51 PM
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She doesn't want to garden. Your wife's pleasure is in your best interest. She is your wife buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:42 PM
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You are getting butthurt that your wife wants a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:41 PM
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He will just put the tip in for 10 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:38 PM
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Fine. But if she proposes it, and the male declines, then he is insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:37 PM
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So we reached a conclusion - none of them are rational and that's ok. Assuming he is tested and wears a condom and promises not to do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:34 PM
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What could she possibly do to better it? All the dishes are washed. The carpet is vacuumed. She hates watching television.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:32 PM
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Assuming she has talked it over with you and coordinated it. So it's not behind your back. She will wear a condom. He will be tested for STDs. The dude is salivating for your girl. He offers no girl to you in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:30 PM
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them getting attached emotionally and leaving you Give her the benefit of the doubt. Let it play out. B) possibly getting pregnant or getting an STD (condoms can break). He will only put the tip in for 10 seconds. And he is tested for STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:27 PM
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means she is spending a small amount of private time with another person that she should be spending with me instead Assuming you're at golf or running an errand
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:26 PM
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Why, if for no other reason than being butthurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:25 PM
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What are you fearing though? You are in the african bush with a SWAT team escorting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:24 PM
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A partner cheating on you threatens your family, your future, your children, potentially your home. How so? It will be coordinated. Assuming it's just a thing you two have talked over to do once. He is tested for STDs. They will wear a condom. The other guy is salivating to get his hands at your wife. He offers no girl to you in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:22 PM
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You can even forget that I even mentioned anything about N count. Just focus on adultery. Why is adultery bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:20 PM
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What if she begs to do it just once. She promise it will be just this once. She isn't cheating behind your back. She is letting you know she really wants to fuck this guy once. Maybe he's giving her a $1000 bucks. Will you let them do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:18 PM
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What if it was an accident and she promises not to do it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:15 PM
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Gotcha. Yes, you have a lack of hypocrisy. I want people who don't mind N count to not be hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:11 PM
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There is nothing tangible in what you said. Are you willing to admit it's insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:10 PM
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You're not hitting on anything concrete. You are avoiding the reasons that make you concerned with your partner doing planned "cheating". The guy she will have sex will be tested and all. She has talked over it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:08 PM
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Obviously, I'm playing the devil's advocate against those who don't mind N count. It's not a position I actually agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:07 PM
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Why are you concerned with the present?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:06 PM
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Then obviously, the question isn't directed at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:06 PM
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What is the rational fear in this case? Assuming the guy shes having sex with is tested and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:04 PM
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So why is cheating bad, if not for insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:04 PM
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Ok. So why is cheating bad? Are you insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:03 PM
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Nope. Insecurity is insecurity. If you have talked it over and she makes sure to use condom and use it properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:03 PM
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What is bad about cheating? I'm playing devil's advocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:01 PM
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Unless he's also getting with other women, then he is being a beta provider. The exact thing I describe in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:59 PM
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You are insecure if you don't let your wife fuck other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:57 PM
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Who said anything about past equaling present? You are dodging the question. Why do you assume a high N count is due to bad behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:57 PM
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So in your case, then, you truly are sticking with your side of that argument that N count doesn't matter. Your actions are all in alignment. I don't think people who don't mind can then turn around and demand a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:56 PM
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The argument many have over being upset about N count is that there is no rational reason for it other than insecurity. Why is your wife cheating in the relationship not also considered insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:52 PM
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Gotcha. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:51 PM
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Lover means the alpha fuckboy. The guy she wants for sex (love). Provider means beta. This is the role many guys set themselves for - "I'll do things for you in exchange for your company"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:50 PM
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I'm just advocating the lover strategy. If you also happen to be rich, good for you. The point is to do more than just be rich, and don't let a woman use you for your money. Flip the script on them. Pump and ump them. Don't get attached to them. It's a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:26 PM
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There is a difference between what girls actually want and what they say they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:19 PM
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I'm just talking about generalizations. On average, who is going to be more attractive after sex? The guy that sticks around to cuddle or the guy that says "nah bitch I gotta go".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:02 PM
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No wonder. What girls want vs what they actually want are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:51 PM
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If they are an alpha, whether or not they are able to also provide, they will not volunteer for monogamy. Unless they are getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:50 PM
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The plantation haha. Preach it brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:44 PM
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Here's the catch - pump and dump doesn't want her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:43 PM
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No, you aren't using critical thinking. It's not so simple as "holding door causes them to lose attraction". It is a pattern of behavior, that includes holding doors, answering texts too fast, being too available, etc. IOW, having a provider strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:37 PM
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True, it is mostly psychological for women. Attraction is more of a game of wanting what others want and wanting what you can't have. In other words, validation chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:16 PM
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Why would a alpha who can have a chick any day of the week, volunteer themselves to a monogamous relationship? That's a beta strategy. Sure, the alpha may want to settle down one day, but not until 30 or 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:15 PM
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There's a huge difference between fucking chicks left and right in your 20s, and then having your pick of the litter for marriage. Vs waiting till you're 30 or 40 to get a bone thrown your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:10 PM
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I don't see how that logically follows. Can you explain or break it down. Ball is in your court.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:09 PM
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That's the thing though, many guys aren't taught not to sign up for the provider role and that it doesn't work. They are actually encouraged to be providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:08 PM
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You like cuddling? What a fa... Girls will lose respect for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:07 PM
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You didn't read. The BF doesn't provide. They pump and dump. That's where the beta comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:06 PM
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That's the catch. An alpha male isn't going to volunteer to a faithful life. If you knew you could get chicks relatively easy, you wouldn't imprison yourself to monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:05 PM
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What works for you, I'm glad works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:02 PM
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Why would that be incel? I don't follow the logic. So if some dude also wants to fuck my wife, I have to yes go right ahead, otherwise I'm an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:01 PM
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Fair enough. Maybe others aren't seeing it. Thinking in terms of this model started getting me success, personally. More respect from women and more success with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:40 AM
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It's not incel. I'm just posting about an observation. My feelings are not involved in this. It's not about me being butthurt or otherwise. Everyone already knows things such as if you hold a door for a girl, she will lose attraction. If you cuddle she will lose attraction. My post is simply an extension of that, the broader framework of why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:21 AM
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Cool. Enjoy getting washed up females demanding a 100k salary with your own house and two cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 10:11 AM
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Women want a provider husband at home who can take care of the bills and the kids at home, while having a boyfriend for sex. Women want someone who can support the lifestyle, the stability, while getting fucked by the alpha dudes. These alpha dudes want nothing to do with these women after sex, and that's where the provider is available to fall back on. The alpha guys get their pick of the litter. Society conditions certain men to be providers, it puts down hard working dudes, telling them they …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:51 AM
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Let's sing koombaya while we're at it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 06:35 PM
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Wrong. It's not shameful to have kids out of marriage. Nobody cares anymore. If you want them to pull the plug if you're ever on life support, you need someone with the power to make that decision on your behalf. How would your partner know what you want? That's what marriage IS. Cool. Thanks for clarifying what it is. I'm now more convinced than ever that I should avoid it. If only other people also knew what a marriage is, the marriage rate wouldn't be so high. But many people just marry becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 06:33 PM
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The superstition is strong with this one ^ At your rate, we wouldn't have invented electricity. We would still be dancing around fire
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 06:11 PM
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It's a social shame. Not since the 2nd century. That's your right. I'm very forward-thinking and I don't want the people I love to be left in a lurch if something happens to me. You would be nice to have as a mom. This is not the only situation when power of attorney comes up. And it could be the case that I want off life support, my husband wants me off life support, but my parents want to keep me on it. My husband should have the right to make that call. Tomatoes Tomatos You need to be married…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 06:09 PM
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What does it mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 06:04 PM
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I want my children to be legitimate. What does that mean? I want my husband on the amazing health insurance plan offered by my employer. So what your saying is that the government baits people into marrying. I want my husband and children to have rights to any money or property I inherit. I just want to live without worrying about all that. YOLO. If I'm dead, I'm dead. I want my husband and I to have power of attorney in case one of us falls ill. I mean, if you're on life support, then it's time…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 06:03 PM
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True that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:54 PM
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Why do you need the government in your personal life? Do you need to bring the government in your bedroom as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:48 PM
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Yea, I'm going to stick to my pump and dump'n.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:46 PM
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Obviously I’m speaking from a legal perspective not “what marriage is to individuals or what it means to them.” Then you didn't really answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:46 PM
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Divorce is a barrier to exit It's not. Once it goes sour, there is no turning it back. Marriage is the most optimal environment for children to develop Legally signed papers don't make a difference Its literally whats best for children I don't think people get into marriage "for their kids". It's more of a herd behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 05:44 PM
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I still don't understand what the logical reason for marriage is. I feel like I'm a stranger in a strange world. I don't get many things that people do. Please tell me I'm not the only one. I know that you get tax benefits. Why married people are even entitled to this benefit baffles me. Why can't two people just consider themselves married without going about legally signed documents? I can probably hear voices echoing "but that's not fun". LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 08:27 AM
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Marriage is now obsolete. Don't know why anyone would want to marry. Only benefit is tax benefits. Women ruined marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:47 PM
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Actually, he has as point. If she doesn't sleep with you on the 1st date, she thinks of you as a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:12 PM
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1st of all: marriage is stupid period; there is no possible explanation you can give me other than tax benefits 2nd of all: I would be wary of any girl who didn't sleep with me on the first date. It probably means she's trying to make me into a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:26 PM
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As a guy, I know that we like sex. We usually don't tell a girl we just want her for sex. That might make her not want to have sex with us. So once we get it, we "ghost". We got what we wanted. Most girls we get with we already know we don't have for more than sex. We are trying to make our numbers high.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:33 PM
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But you stuck your dick into her. Why pass up free poontang? She's already damaged. Not like you're going to damage her anymore. Why the hypocrisy? Why marry easy poontang? It's free. No marriage required.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:14 PM
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Because guys just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:04 PM
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I'm not mocking you. It's the truth. People in middle east criticize the west. But look at how much better the west is. You see muslims who are in europe and usa and criticizing europe and usa. Those people need to be deported. They need to thank the west for saving them from hell.
/r/seduction14/09/18 05:16 PM
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That's really your best plan. It's to try to put money together over the next 5 years and leave. Once you reach the country you like, kiss the boots of the president there. And change your religion to theirs. Islam and middle east is cancer. Go USA and Europe.
/r/seduction14/09/18 05:12 PM
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Ask your parents why they had sex and made you if they were poor. People in that country shouldn't have kids, if they can't get their child married. Why didn't your parents use condoms? People need to march together to the president and not leave until the situation is fixed. Of course they're going to kill people who are alone. But no. People in your country are sheep. Nobody wants to leave the comfort of their house.
/r/seduction14/09/18 05:08 PM
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So in your system, only rich guys can get girls? Why aren't the young men in your country standing up the government? Why are you guys voting for them? Why are people just waiting for someone else to do something.
/r/seduction14/09/18 04:59 PM
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At your age, guys and girls are horny as hell. Islam says no premarital sex. So your parents need to get you married. What are they doing? Why are they not finding you a wife?
/r/seduction14/09/18 04:53 PM
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So don't talk to girls. Or run away to europe. Islam is cancer.
/r/seduction14/09/18 04:40 PM
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What do you want them to do? Just chat with you all day long? Friends do stuff together. Friends see each other. These are dating sites you're on. If it doesn't move forward, then it will die out. There are plenty of better things that people can do with their time than seeking online buddies.
/r/seduction14/09/18 04:35 PM
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Friends? They live on the other side of the world.
/r/seduction14/09/18 04:01 PM
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But what's the point of all this texting and chit chat? What's your goal? Your goal has to be clear.
/r/seduction14/09/18 02:33 PM
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