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Ah, okay. I agree. And what the "mainstream" feminist movement has become is certainly nothing to be admired or aspire to. As I stated before, I simply used the word as an easy label for myself before I did much research into mainstream feminism. But now that I have, I completely agree that it isn't really a term I want to associate with myself anymore.
/r/MensRights01/05/11 03:56 AM
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Yes?
/r/MensRights01/05/11 02:35 AM
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Lol, so many recommendations! Definitely going to check it out after I finish working my way through Two Towers. xD
/r/MensRights30/04/11 02:54 PM
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Indeed they will become redundant, but only after people from both of our "sides" find a new word that applies to all of us and start using it to the extent that it pushes others to use it in place of MRA or feminist.
/r/MensRights30/04/11 05:45 AM
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True, I think that, as you said, in the rare event that abortion occurs during a marriage, your system would work quite well in guaranteeing equal rights for all involved.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 08:48 PM
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Ah, yeah I can see that being a problem then. But if you don't care about possibly losing some readership, it could be a really good idea to advocate your views in a blog. It might open up a lot of women to the idea that we need to be responsible. Personally, I think you speak quite persuasively and reasonably, it would be hard for anyone except extreme feminists to respond in a negative manner. I'm sure there will always be a few groups of people that are outraged, but the same can be said for …
/r/MensRights29/04/11 05:39 PM
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Hm, you make a good point. The child's rights should definitely take priority. But that being said, I don't believe that a child raised in a single parent home cannot be raised in a loving and secure environment. I do see that it wouldn't be right for a woman to have to choose between raising a child on her own, and getting an abortion though. There would definitely need to changes to the form and the law to make it fairer, if less equal. Maybe we're trying so hard to have things be as equal as …
/r/MensRights29/04/11 05:25 PM
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I'll check it out but I don't think anything could entirely convince me that words are powerless. My boyfriend and I may just have to compromise with saying that while words don't have inherent value within them, they gain value form our perception of them and our perception of them as a society can sometimes lead words to change our perception of things on an individual level. Thanks for the link and the information! :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 04:35 PM
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I've actually learned quite a lot about that in this thread, so I think I will be finding a different label rather than feminism. A couple good words have been thrown around that would make adequate substitutes. The main reason I've hung on to the label of feminism for so long is because from how I see feminism, that's what I am. But upon researching main stream feminism and the reactions I've gotten here, I'm starting to understand just how corrupt and extremist some mainstream feminist organiz…
/r/MensRights29/04/11 04:30 PM
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I'm not saying people shouldn't defend their countries, I'm just saying that it should be a choice. I know many people would choose to join the army if their country was in danger. It's the aspect of the government forcing young men and women (in an ideal world) to put their lives on the line that I'm against.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 04:23 PM
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I lol'ed. Thanks for that. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 04:21 PM
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Well, in my view, conscription is undemocratic and barbaric. And I like to think that Canada wouldn't stand for something like that being enforced. Thankfully, we don't do much that provokes direct attack, so hopefully neither of us will be proved right or wrong for quite some time. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 03:47 PM
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You say things so well! I agree with all of this, but don't really have anything to add to it. Do you happen to have a blog or something of that sort?
/r/MensRights29/04/11 03:38 PM
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Well coming in here and being a close-minded asshole myself wouldn't accomplish much. I came here because I wanted to meet people and learn about your points of view. I really appreciate the kind responses I've received from so many of you. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 03:37 PM
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Well it's certainly an interesting idea. However since so many abortions occur out of marriage, I think the idea put forth in the comments above is the more viable solution. Having a document signed by the man if he wants no responsibility for the child, which would allow the mother to get the abortion, and if she chose to keep the child, allow the father to get out of paying child care. It could be interesting if adultery were handled via your proposal though. Although I could see that getting …
/r/MensRights29/04/11 03:34 PM
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Lol! Charming, narrow-mindedness at its' best.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 03:29 PM
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Well there are much fewer assholes than I was expecting to be honest, I don't think a few people being close-minded is a big deal since the majority seem nice and reasonable. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 02:34 PM
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That's okay. I'd offer to post proof, but the only proof I have is that I'm a girl, which isn't really proof of feminism at all.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 02:32 PM
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Assuming that she's married when she gets the abortion. I would assume, perhaps falsely, that when women get abortions due to unwanted pregnancy, most of the time it's when they are not married.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 02:29 PM
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I hope so too. Although I strongly agree with many of the points that have been made here about how separating the two movements for gender equality by our gender is actually more damaging than anything else. So I guess I hope we'll all be part of a new wave of gender equalists who will be able to work together to change things. ^
/r/MensRights29/04/11 02:10 PM
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:\ That's awful. Most restaurants around here will onlyy hire men for the kitchen and only hire women for serving. Good luck finding a job!
/r/MensRights29/04/11 02:03 PM
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That's impossible to prove and pointless to say.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 02:01 PM
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I know, I simply defined feminism in my own terms because it was called into question, I don't think I'll really be defining myself as a feminist anymore after seeing the responses in this thread and all the better words there are to define someone who seeks equality for everyone.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 02:01 PM
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Well, I know quite a few feminists who aren't that bad, and I like to think of myself as one of them. It might be frustrating to live in this world but things will get better. They always do. Just keep fighting for what you believe in and advocating the cause of gender equality wherever you see it is lacking, and eventually the idea will catch on that we're all equal and, regardless of gender, none of us deserve to be victims.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:58 PM
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:) I'm sure they'll get more open minded when the movement starts gaining media attention and they start realizing how men are mistreated just as much as women are.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:54 PM
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I completely agree. I think we talked about this somewhere in the thread, that if we all worked together we could accomplish so much more than on our own. We are, afterall, all working towards gender equality, so it should be natural that we band together, rather than attack each other.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:50 PM
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You're very welcome ^
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:47 PM
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I've actually been meaning to read that one for a while. Thanks for reminding me! Looks like I've got quite a lot of reading to do lol. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:43 PM
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Well believe what you want I suppose, but I really just found this subreddit right before I posted, there was a post in 2XC that was also posted here about an advertisement, so I came over here to check out what the subreddit was about.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:42 PM
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Will do. Thanks! :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:53 AM
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Rightt. Because there's no such thing as an open-minded feminist, and there's no way she'd be able to hold a civil conversation with anyone.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:50 AM
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Nice reading of the ad, I didn't catch that the first time I read through it. That company and those that advertise like it are disgusting. I hope nobody takes crap like that seriously.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:49 AM
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That's a really good idea, to have the two teams fight together, rather than divided. Much more would be accomplished, I believe. And it would lead all of us to better understand each other, rather than thinking that we're opponents, we could see that we all want the same things.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:45 AM
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It felt really good to be a part of this, I was definitely not expecting such a warm welcome from so many of you. :) That comic is amazing. Maybe lasercows are just common where everyone else comes from. But here in small-town Canada, we don't have that luxury. We have something called "lawn-mowers".
/r/MensRights29/04/11 01:01 AM
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Thank you. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:51 AM
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No thanks necessary, from what I've learned today, there doesn't seem to be much of a divide at all. :) We're all fighting for the same thing. Also; your username is awesome. <sup>_</sup>^
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:46 AM
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Thank you, too. I really wasn't expecting to find so many warm and positive people here, but then again I didn't really lurk much before I posted. I definitely plan on staying and hanging out. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:42 AM
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Indeed, ideals don't tend to match up with reality as closely as I'd like. But nevertheless, hopefully one day progressive governments will be ready to create systems such as this. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:33 AM
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Look around you, we already are.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:29 AM
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I'm so sorry for what you've gone through. It's disgusting that cops could act like that, that the law/society could let them act like that. You shouldn't have to thank me.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:23 AM
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Thank you ^ I'm used to having to respond to comments such as that as in a joking manner, but it sure does get old fast.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:19 AM
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I think if any movement gets large enough you'll find fabricated material, or claims of it, which support their ideas. Fair enough though. Although from what I read, the egalitarians seem pretty chill. They're just about complete equality between the sexes.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:16 AM
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Personally, I would rather pay large amounts of money for 18 years than have an abortion. But I think that's just my personal values, and my inexperience with the reality of child support. If it could be implemented properly though, I do think this plan could work to equal things out as far as rights to children go.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:12 AM
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Very true. Also, promoting the idea of adoption would help reduce abortions. I'm heavily pro-choice, but I place a high value on the preciousness of all life so the solution that you and jhnhines are proposing does sound quite reasonable when applied properly by the government. Giving both men and women equal responsibility and choice when it comes to having a child is the ideal result of course.
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:10 AM
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Haha yeah, it probably did. That sounds super-cool, I'll definitely pick it up next time I'm at the used book store. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/11 12:05 AM
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What you propose seems reasonable to me. At the very least it's balanced. Because the idea of a man having a say over what I do with my body doesn't feel right to me, but I guess it has to be a personal decision on whether or not the woman consults the man before getting the abortion. I certainly wouldn't feel right with getting one without consulting the father first, although making it so that the father has no say in the matter, yet giving men the option to opt out of having responsibility fo…
/r/MensRights28/04/11 11:44 PM
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Hm, that's interesting. I'm not sure where I stand on it either, which is why I asked, because I know it's a pretty hard and complex subject. I like your idea in a sense though, but that also gives the possibility that a man could just opt out even if the mother doesn't want to get an abortion, so that he wouldn't have to be responsible for child support or any of that. There definitely could be a good system worked out though, but I guess when it comes down to it, if a woman wants an abortion, …
/r/MensRights28/04/11 11:10 PM
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Here's a deal; Why don't you go invent a teleportation device, give me the rights to it, then I'll make you dinner and teleport it to you.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 11:05 PM
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Exactly. It's hard for governments to find that balance though, between protecting women as much as they protect everyone else, and holding women accountable for their own actions whilst not being misogynistic. So I think women have gotten used to NOT owning their own shit, so to speak. We're used to being catered to, society tells us that the men in our lives are supposed to buy us things and pay for our food and protect us. Sure, I let my boyfriend pay for dinner and buy me things, heck, he ev…
/r/MensRights28/04/11 11:02 PM
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Oh wow, definitely need to read that now. It kind of reminds me of a more extreme version of V For Vendetta in a sense.That's a really interesting concept though, removing words from our vocabulary so that we are no longer able to grasp certain concepts. It certainly would prove my point to my boyfriend! Thank you! :D
/r/MensRights28/04/11 10:44 PM
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Ohhh, that sounds pretty awesome. I'll add it to my reading list. Thanks for the link Sir.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 10:27 PM
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Haha, old habits die hard eh? :P You're very welcome though :)
/r/MensRights28/04/11 10:25 PM
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No, thank you for yours. :)
/r/MensRights28/04/11 10:23 PM
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Wouldn't it be nice? I think most people would prefer it, except governments who are running low on fodder for their wars.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 10:21 PM
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I've never read that. It's about war, right? But yes, I intend to find some way to show him how powerful they can be. As a writer and avid book-worm, words are one of the most precious resources in the world, in my opinion.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 10:15 PM
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I think self-empowerment is a beautiful thing that many more women need to learn. I try to avoid victim-blaming as well, and certainly no one ever deserves to be raped, but you need to make smart decisions and take your own steps to protect yourself, rather than just expecting a man, or the government, to protect you. Women need to stand up for themselves and empower themselves on an individual and communal level, the same way men should, in order to foster a society that doesn't blame victims o…
/r/MensRights28/04/11 10:12 PM
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Well, I'd be pretty interested in hearing everyone's views on abortion. Do you believe that the father of a baby should have to sign something legally giving the mother who wants the abortion his equal consent to "terminate the pregnancy"? I'm just curious ^
/r/MensRights28/04/11 10:00 PM
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Thank you. :) I think you're quite right about not being a feminist much longer based on what I've learned in this thread.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 09:24 PM
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Wow, I've never even thought of feminism like that. But the way you put it, I can easily see how modern feminism can act as an agent for oppression towards the very women it's supposed to serve. I imagine if I was involved in any large-scale feminist groups I would very quickly see your point of view. I frequently label myself as such because in casual conversation it seems the easiest way to convey that one is an activist for gender equality. I might get further called a karma-whore for this bu…
/r/MensRights28/04/11 09:19 PM
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Well I'm one of those women. So what's your definition of feminism?
/r/MensRights28/04/11 09:04 PM
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What? Hardly. I'm a feminist as defined by the commonly used definition for it; someone who seeks equal rights for women. So yes, that's how I generally label myself. The fact that I'm beginning to question the way other people use that word is rather irrelevant.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 08:49 PM
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Makes sense. They want people to notice them more and feel pressured into accepting their extremist views as normal and acceptable within society.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 08:17 PM
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O_o Maybe you're listening to too much bad 80's rap. Apparently that stuff is bad.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 08:16 PM
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Good idea :)
/r/MensRights28/04/11 08:15 PM
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Ohh okay, thanks for the clarification.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 07:50 PM
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I actually don't doubt that at all.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 07:50 PM
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Fair point. I'll have to think on that. Because while I believe in equality for everyone and everything, I'm somewhat of a feminine activist, rather than just an advocate. But it's true the word feminist doesn't sit quite right.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 07:25 PM
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That's quite interesting. My boyfriend insists that there is no power in words, but I've always believe words are one of our most powerful tools as a species. The power and value we instill in words such as misandry and misogyny is a testament to how we can use words to raise awareness to problems and fight to bring equality into our societies.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 07:09 PM
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That's quite the optimistic view. I hope you're right, but I know a lott of angry radicals, and certain corners of reddit are filled with them.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 07:03 PM
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That sounds fair to me, we all have our specific causes that we need to prioritize over others. Being an activist for anything requires a lot of energy and dedication. I try to just always be open to conversations on any topic with people I meet. So that I can advocate for my own beliefs when necessary whilst learning how the other person sees things. Get into a lot of friendly debates that way, but I find in general, people are open-minded and willing to listen to anything if you're willing to …
/r/MensRights28/04/11 07:01 PM
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Ah, both good words. And I've seen that in many cases of sexually abused males, they don't feel they have a right to be a victim and speak out because of all the pressure that's on them to be tough and be the abuser, not the abused. The locus of control is an interesting idea. I think it makes a lot of sense when it comes to perceiving yourself as a victim in any situation. Very true, all of us are capable of equal measures of positive and negative acts. That article on the "Halo effect" is anot…
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:58 PM
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Oh really? Thanks for the vocab lesson. :) I've actually never heard the word misandry before-->proving the necessity for this subreddit.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:46 PM
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From what I know, it isn't. None of the males over 18 that I know have been forced to register.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:36 PM
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Sad isn't it? People think things will be better if both men and women are forced to die for their countries. I don't think the government has a right to force anyone to offer up their lives in service. Conscription is an out-dated and barbaric use of law.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:30 PM
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Yes, but we no longer use it. I'm not saying we never have, but in modern-day wars Canada has participated in, we have not enforced conscription.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:28 PM
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Of course I intend to provide my support beyond just posting kind words where I know they'll be received well. I was thinking along the same lines when I typed "feminist" in the title. I just don't know what other word I could use to describe myself as someone who seeks equality. Gender-equalist is the closest thing I can think of. I definitely will advocate male equality just as much as I advocate female equality, at every opportunity and in every venue where it is opposed. I'll certainly try t…
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:26 PM
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It seems incredibly sad to me that forums such as this and the feminism boards foster such animosity between genders, when really what they should be doing is working towards us all co-operating together to eliminate inequality and abuse. I understand the misogyny part, there's certainly a few crazies on the feminist boards who just hate on men all the time and don't seek the root of the problem when it comes to their inequality or perceptions thereof.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:16 PM
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I'd be up for that but I'm in Canada, and I'm pretty sure we don't force men to register for the draft. Abolishing the draft entirely seems the best solution for everywhere, rather than forcing women in.
/r/MensRights28/04/11 06:02 PM
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