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I thought this was great, but you Mens Rights people are apparently too clueless to understand the main points outlined here.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 02:34 AM
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Wow, you are incredibly daft. It was a critique of that kind of man, not an endorsement.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 02:33 AM
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You can't climb out of the friend zone Seen it happen over and over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 06:49 AM
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In the other scenario, you completely lose a chance to at least make her into a friend, you burn a bridge, and you lose any opportunity to either climbing out of the "friend zone" or meeting her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 03:32 AM
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Again, we are in a subreddit called "Purple Pill Debate". I presented an article for discussion. If your comment is "I don't understand why we need to discuss this" guess what, you actually don't need to comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:32 AM
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We also elected a woman to be the Democratic candidate FOR presidency, a first-ever, which, regardless of her winning or not, is a sign that the US DOES care about making things less misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:29 AM
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Who cares? Do whatever the fuck you wanna do In case you were wondering, the subreddit you are in is called "Purple Pill Debate"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:28 AM
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Literally every single nice guy and TRP-er I have come across has conflated being Alpha as being a dick. You're the first one that has not. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:27 AM
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Never said anything about knowing your place, simply states that there's no realistic way in sustaining a Classic Alpha lifestyle since humans are far more complex than animals. You'd know this if you read the entire article before you posted. How is it a caricature of Alpha 1.0? What particularly about it speaks to you as a caricature? And it explicitly defines aggression against assertion, so happy reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:56 AM
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It goes into detail on what Alpha 1.0 is. A lot of the aspects are taken from ethology, which is linked in the article. The "further reading" section also roots its explanation of what the Classic Alpha is. If you have a problem with the way it explains what a Classic Alpha is, I would love to debate exactly what they are. Personally, the Alpha 1.0 explanation is an extremely accurate summary of what I have read from The Red Pill in their definition of an Alpha. I am willing to hear you out wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:46 AM
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Okay, but this is all about redefining what an Alpha is, so when you're ready to discuss the article, I'm here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 10:29 AM
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'Bigotry' is a subjective value judgement. There is no objective measure. Where you want to cry 'bigotry' and cut off the conversation, I see complexity and pragmatism and a conversation that needs to be had. "Treat others how you would like to be treated" is pretty goddamn simple. Sure, you can complicate it (as do so many) but this is the basis of everything. If someone is treating someone badly, this is obviously not how they want to be treated. If it is, then they have problems and it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:06 AM
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And I think you defend him because you hate women more than you'd like to admit. So it's a stalemate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:29 PM
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Seems pretty easy to me to understand what constitutes as bigotry. Striving to live an ideal life is different from living the ideal life but striving is more than enough. It hasn't provided any problems for me. Politics should strive to make the objective ideal world. Again, like most TRP-ers, you seemingly have forgotten/took for granted all the progress we have made so far. Civil Rights have done far more good than bad. Civil Rights were born out of idealizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:27 PM
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Can you tell me with absolute honesty the average sex life of every single black man in the US? It's gonna be easier than a vague term like TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:52 AM
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One FWB, three LTRs, and many, many ONS. I don't go looking for ONS because I primarily want another LTR, but I am open to them when it presents themselves. Most times I hope the ONS leads to more. Most times it does not. Just how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:17 AM
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Point taken, but TRP does a truly awful job at explaining shit tests (which isn't even the goddamn term as shown here) so excuse me for being confused. This is more or less common knowledge, but TRP really should not ever try to rebrand this part of relationship psychology again because how it's commonly defined makes it seem so much more condescending to women than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:05 AM
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Ok, so what's immoral or black and white about cutting bigots out of your life? It's not difficult to strive to live an ideal life. You should try it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:59 AM
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Oh boy. I have to go to work and I can send links later. So you have enough time to write a paragraph but not enough to do a simple google search. I did one and found nothing but manosphere blog and reddit posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:57 AM
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Where did I mention him being a Republican once? This is not a party issue, stop putting words in my mouth, it's practically trolling. I love a great many of our past Republican presidential candidates and many of them have contributed a lot of good to the world. I would never say they're all inherently evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:52 AM
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That's not true at all but please keep believing it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:06 PM
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I have never lowered my moral standards nor have I been stereotypically aggressive in RP terms and have fucked plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:59 AM
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Shows that she can think on her feet about something specific in our relationship and relay that into an insult. Look, arguments happen. People say things they regret - I have. I don't want her to be afraid that an argument - or a well-placed insult - could end the relationship. And if it did? I would want her to be confident enough to not grovel for me to take her back. The old adage is that the more you love someone, the more you have the capacity to hate them. Or in other terms, the harder we…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:48 AM
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Remember all of the men who were accused as witches and drowned/lynched? Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:34 AM
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Well, a lot of girls I dated, when we got into an argument, would just emotionally shut down or cry. So I would like a girl who could not only hold her own in an argument, but could actually sling out an insult so hurtful and specific about our relationship that it shows me that she 1. cares a lot and 2. isn't afraid of what would happen if the relationship fell apart. It's difficult to explain, but I do like when a girl can push my buttons but chooses mostly not to (just in heated arguments whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:31 AM
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I have dated white, black, latina, Jewish, fat, skinny, old, young, tall, short. The more I have dated, the less attached I am to an ordered list of specific physical attributes I desire for my ideal woman. Won't ever date an obese girl again though (or anyone who doesn't at least think about exercising daily), probably won't ever date a girl taller than me again. Haven't dated a single Asian girl, but I'm open to it. Inner? You can't be truly funny without being intelligent, so that's a twofer.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:20 AM
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What /u/darla10 is saying is that all women do this and it happens unconsciously so she needs to either provide some links or retract her statement. You say you do it consciously, sure, fine. That's different. I don't believe it doesn't exist, I just don't believe all women do it. I don't believe a majority of people do it in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:57 AM
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Hit me up with a link that posits that the term "shit test" is realistic amongst all women with a scientific basis, then I'll listen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:36 AM
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fantasize is the key word here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:32 AM
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Anti-sexism (lol what a term) is what artists and culture commentators want and discuss a lot, but sexism is still the norm in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:52 AM
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He's assuming they let you do it. Not asking for consent. He's normalizing that it's okay to just take that risk. It's not. It's really not that difficult, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:50 AM
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He was saying because he's rich and famous he fucks women he normally wouldn't be able to. If you want proof of that, look at his wife. He wouldn't have got her if he wasn't famous. If this isn't a yes to you OP, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:49 AM
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It's the same damn thing over and over again with you TRPers. It all comes down to: "Everything is fine with how it was, why does it have to change? This change is HURTING my chances with being happy!" Of course it does. Change does not come without its sacrifices. As women out-earn men (which will inevitably happen regardless of whether they get equal pay act since there's just simply more women in college), the gender paradigm will change, leaving a few out in the cold to figure out the societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:27 AM
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50 SHADES OF GREY is a fantasy-fulfillment novel. Aren't you TRPers all about reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:08 AM
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I'm a heterosexual man and I honestly don't find it hot. Waits for TRP-ers to tell me that I am denying reality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:03 AM
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Only a certain type of woman shit tests, the woman that is so insecure that they're easy for any TRP to manipulate into their arms. So like 0.000000000000000000001%. If that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:01 AM
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How about both? Because physical violence isn't something that does jack to your emotions. I could call a dude fat, he'll be hurt, but fine. If I beat the crap out of him because he was fat, he will not only suffer injuries, but his ego would be hurt way more than just a normal insult. "He hated me being fat so much that he beat me, wow..."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 07:58 AM
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You know what a man can do back then? Three simple words "It's not mine." Maury didn't exist until relatively recent, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 07:55 AM
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What's complicated about cutting bigots out of my life? LOL How old are you? 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 07:53 AM
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Virginia Woolf, Jane Austen (she's all over western culture), but even modern works by Toni Morrison or Ursula K. Leguin. It honestly doesn't matter who, I just think that it's the best way to get into the mind of women, along with providing certain understanding of how they feel and behave. Many men (and women) may hate it, but I think SEX AND THE CITY or GIRLS definitely helps men understand how women view their own friendships and how they prioritize their lives in different ways than men do.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 07:44 AM
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You haven't presented it as complex as of yet, so I'm curious as to what complexities your issues contain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:40 AM
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Being paid unfair wages =/= slavery. It's like slavery, but it's still not slavery and it's disrespectful to women who are sex trafficked in this current day and age who would happily trade a low paying job for being a sex slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:36 AM
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Of course. But we are on the ethical opinion that human slavery is wrong, which is something that wasn't held 100 years ago as widely as it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:31 AM
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Anyone who says that numbers don't matter is a liar. That's just the truth. Nothing to do with values or beliefs. Is there a scientific study or link that provides you this objective "fact" that holds true amongst all types of society? Why should I date someone I am not compatible with? You do whatever you want to do. You asked a question. I answered. These are how questions work. You're displeased with my answer that explained why you shouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:29 AM
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Not being attractive doesn't necessary mean your ugly either. Huh, sounds like the world isn't black and white...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:26 AM
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Care to enlighten the class?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:19 AM
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You're the one who called me an idiot or a liar for saying it's just a number. You ask me to tolerate your values and beliefs when you don't for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:15 AM
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I've dated a girl who slept with more than a hundred men (no joke, she was a previous pornstar who I will not reveal, out of respect for her identity). The problem we ended up having is that she wasn't comfortable with having a relationship at that time. I had a few reservations at first, but she was genuinely a good, intelligent human being that it made the 100+ meaningless to me. So you'll grow out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:56 AM
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Like all RP things, this applies to a certain small minority of women instead of all women - usually women with extreme insecurity issues that need constant validation from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:49 AM
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Why? It's just a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:37 AM
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Rape and sex trafficking isn't on top of the fear-list of what could happen to the majority of men. So, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:32 AM
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Feminists would most likely never say this ever and would say that people who say this are contributing to the problems of male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:18 AM
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We are going in circles, either read up on what I said or don't, I'm not going to explain your own issues with reading comprehension because you enjoy taunting me. Everything has been explained in detail, respond to it or don't, believe you have some sort of intellectual superiority than me or don't, I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:15 AM
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I'm sorry, is this supposed to change something for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:13 AM
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Yes....at a maximum of five whole years, wow! You sure proved me wrong! Do you want to talk about the stigma you asked me about or my general point which I outlined in my two essays? I'm sorry, I can't keep up with your bullshit, it's just getting too stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:03 AM
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Since I already practically spelled it out in the previous message, I will just leave you these statistics from DATACLYSM: Women prefer men who are older than they are: http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/54455482ecad04a7637efb7a-1112-1075/dataclysm_34.jpg Men prefer women who are around the age of 20: http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/54455482eab8ea361710fecc-800-/dataclysm_35.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 09:49 AM
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How is it not the issue? It seems to fundamentally be about someone else's past, not their present or future. The only problem you should have with someone's past not to date them is that they did something that is inexcusable within your set of morals. I don't see sexual promiscuity as a morally evil thing, however, but it seems that you do, so I think you should take that view into CMV or something in order to suss it out. And of course, I've dated virgins and inexperienced people. Who hasn't?…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 09:38 AM
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What ~stigma~ are you talking about? But I thought you were done?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 09:31 AM
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What? WOMEN NEVER SOUGHT OUT FAR OLDER MEN BY CHOICE. Least of all 'from a very early age'. Fucks sake, the lengths you people will go to to keep the fantasy going. Also, "ideal" =! reality or common practice. I'm at a lost to what you think you're responding to here. Are we on the same page that a lot of what we're discussing is rooted in a history where women weren't allowed to have a choice in who they are going to marry, let alone seek out a man? Because if we are, good. You do suffer a bit …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 09:30 AM
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I don't know if you're purposely misreading my post or if you suffer from reading comprehension problems. But didn't you just say their families directed them to marry rich older men? Yes. Even if they weren't given a choice, if all these wealthy men were coming for young, poor women wouldn't their families make the girls marry them? See, this is where that I feel you're either purposely misinterpreting what I said or you're deliberately trying to trap me into some different argument. I never on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 09:12 AM
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Women are like a kid in a candy store on a special free sample day where every jar is pushed to you for tasting... but they are deathly afraid of the fact that at any point someone could tie them down and force bucket loads of candy into their mouth against their will as hundreds of years of history has shown them Men are like a kid at camp who gets one piece of candy strung up as reward at the end of a confusing, strenuous obstacle course... and if they don't get it, they go along with their da…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:42 AM
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I don't understand why so many people seem to be deliberately obtuse to the reasons why promiscuity is a very unattractive trait. Probably because a lot of us find promiscuity to be an attractive trait. Promiscuous girls are usually girls who know what they want, get it, and have wild/crazy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:33 AM
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Nope. That's not how the idea of "the one" works. "The one" is a term used to stereotypically say the "perfect match". You typically have to go through a number of people in order to find "the one" that matches you best. Regardless, you're putting way too much emphasis on a person's past instead of their present or future. That speaks far more about yourself than just your relationship hang-ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:31 AM
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If you're angry or jealous about it, it says more about you than it says about them. It says you're mad about things that you literally can't change as they are in the past. Fact of the matter is (I apologize for assuming your gender), he/she may love the sex with you more than anyone else in the past. That could be why he/she is with you now and not with them. Getting angry or jealous over that is just silly, showing that you put more value on the past than what you have right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:26 AM
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However if you think any of that means young women were under specific instructions (or encouragement) to marry wealthy older men you're sadly mistaken. Of course not, because they weren't given the choice to marry a wealthy rich man because they weren't by and large given a choice on who they were to marry. And you're right, they didn't do it all the time, but also as you also say, it was ideal. The fact marrying up was ideal and the fact that the majority of men who were of higher wealth (even…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:19 AM
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This is just the status quo defining what they perceive as an outsider movement. The n word wasn't defined originally by black people as a slur, it was white people who did that - the perceived status quo for advanced society. Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:54 AM
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The Red Pill is essentially toxic masculinity, so it's not a real "movement" either, just a rebranding of the status quo with a few tiny changes. Blue Pill is more or less liberal-thinking men that are thrown a "label" by the toxic masculinity status quo to demean them. We don't want it - we think it's silly so we have adopted it for purposes of this forum discussion. And to make fun of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:50 AM
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You ask for studies, then question the studies. Was there a point for you asking to provide them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:45 AM
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You ask for quantified resources, a married sample is far easier to get than a "in a relationship" sample. Besides, they're close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:43 AM
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Dating standards have radically changed when you consider that, until recently, dating did not even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:37 AM
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I honestly don't care and neither should you! Who cares how many or who she fucked in the past, is she fucking you now? Good. This whole numbers bullshit is dumb. There's so much more to life than how many people you've fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:31 AM
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I am going to give an honest answer that may be mocked, but I found a lot of success in not only dating women but making more friends and improving my career by reading and applying the virtues found in HOW TO WIN FRIENDS & INFLUENCE PEOPLE. I also meditate and read a ton of literature written by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:17 AM
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There's a lot of bad people out there, instead of solidifying my beliefs that that's how everyone is with other men who lack imagination on TRP, I simply do not have them in my life and find the people who actively want equality between genders and can hold complex views on humanity, men and women. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:14 AM
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Like literally everything, it's neither good nor bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:10 AM
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So let me get this straight: Are you going to tell me that marriage wasn't an economic function for families for the majority of history and that women weren't viewed as a commodity worthy of trade for that part of history as well? Men traded women for goods. Men and women were betrothed, most of the time with the male counterparts having more say than that of the female. Polygamy was always the male having multiple wives, not the woman. Women have been devalued as a product for economic market …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:05 AM
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I love romcoms. They're just as silly as action films, but at times they can point to enlightening differences between the genders which is why I find them more fascinating than the regular shlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:40 AM
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Sadly, I am not drok007, I was just adding to your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:32 AM
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It's only a lie if society, as a whole, allows it to be. I feel your rhetoric could be used in the pre-civil rights era to suppress black people from being free. Or Jews during the Holocaust.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:26 AM
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She could be assaulted, become depressed, and, in essence, "lose her looks", so "her looks" can be stolen as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:24 AM
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Or we could tell them their value isn't inherently tied to their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:21 AM
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Name one pre-1900 society where the prime directive of marriage for the lower/middle class wasn't to marry off the family daughter to a wealthy, usually much older man. It's covered all over history books, novels from the various eras - it happens even now. Hypergamy is ingrained in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:19 AM
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Until it doesn't. Slavery worked for a long time. Until it didn't. Because people evolve, figure out the ethical problems of society, make a change and we are ultimately better for it. If you want to argue in favor of slavery, you lost me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:12 AM
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Why can't loving a woman for her youth and beauty be romantic? Because it's how the majority of romance has ran in the last 2000 years. Very old men marrying very young women. There's a reason why women are ingrained to date men that are only older than them, who have more money, better social status, etc. We are trying to break out of that. I personally won't be mad at you if that's what you did, but as a whole, society needs to break out of this problematic thinking in order for us to find equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:00 AM
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A man who becomes famous or rich can go from a 6/10, to a 10/10. This number system is so arbitrary and unsubstantiated that I have to dismiss your point at a very fundamental level. There are a multitude of reasons that the majority of women aren't always out on the town, trying to find billionaire or famous men to throw themselves to. As a person who has worked inside the entertainment industry, this myth that all rich/famous men just get all the women all the time is for the most part untrue.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 04:58 AM
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Yes! But I'd have the (possibly irrational) fear that she will always be sizing me up with men that make more money or have a better status since that comparative quality is so ingrained and difficult to rewire in young women. My career specifically asks for this kind of woman if I am to pursue a relationship and I feel they're exceedingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:21 AM
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Your previous comment stated one thing in one sentence - semen is not owned by anyone. The next comment is expressing incredulity at my previous statement. This is not engaging in conversation. You're pretty much saying. "Nuh-uh" then "This guy is crazy!" If you were engaging, you would explain yourself in what you mean by, "What? No, it doesn't belong to anyone, and this topic has exactly nothing to do with "ownership" of semen" because that's exactly what this is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 08:07 AM
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If he doesn't own his semen, then, shouldn't that mean she doesn't own her eggs? If so, then you're arguing against body autonomy. But please, explain to me how you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:58 AM
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If you don't want to engage in the question, don't comment. If you don't believe men can get raped, then stop reading. Because that's what you're implying in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:51 AM
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It's his semen, not hers. She stole it from him. He did not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:47 AM
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Someone steals one of your kidneys, puts it in their body. You can live without your kidney, but if you take your kidney back, they will likely die. Do they own your kidney now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:43 AM
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That's not an equivalent because abortion very rarely ends in female infertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:40 AM
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So even if stolen the semen belongs to her now, not the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:38 AM
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I would argue it's not completely her body in this scenario. She wasn't forced to get pregnant. She didn't get pregnant willingly. She wasn't even indifferent to the sex. She raped somebody and the victim's semen got her pregnant. Therefore, by denying the option to make her abort, you are destroying the victim's body autonomy. How do we destroy a woman's body autonomy? By reverse - a woman gets raped and we take away the option to get an abortion. In both scenarios, you're hurting the victim. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 06:29 AM
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But when reversed - a man rapes a woman - there's certainly the option to abort the baby. By your logic, we shouldn't allow the woman option to abort because that would be denying the rapist of his body autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 06:13 AM
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That's a false equivalency. Also, denying man's autonomy for the favor of a woman's autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 05:55 AM
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Oh okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:59 AM
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So you're sympathizing with the woman who raped a man because pregnancy is difficult? Are you arguing that the difficulty of pregnancy negates the nature of the crime? Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:57 AM
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