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| 1 | I am married, this is 100% true. I am here to warn other men. I wish I was a true MGTOW.I think that in the past doctors and nurses gravitated toward each other because of proximity (obviously) but also because they "understood" their industry. I'm going to be very blunt here and say most nurses are vapid and that's why they can't rope in an MD. The standards to become a nurse have been lowered in order to get more people in. While the standards for a doc have only risen. Also that doc's deal with insane amount of stress, and the type-A personality of most nurses comes off as abras… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/09/20 04:38 PM |
| 2 | I am married, this is 100% true. I am here to warn other men. I wish I was a true MGTOW.Oh I agree about women almost always dating up. I knew a phlebotomist who dated a patient transporter. She dumped that guy when she finished radiology tech school. Around the same time he didn't get into med school 🤔 He works in finance now doing pretty damn good. Healthcare is one of the most heirarchical institutions. The radiology director shits on the radiologist who shits on the radiology resident who shits on the radiology tech who shits on the phlebotomist. Maybe all institutions are like… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/09/20 04:26 PM |
| 7 | Every man needs to see Marriage StoryAnother interesting thing about male birth control that idk is true but I read that: Say you're a pharmaceutical company that sells female contraceptives. Switching your sells to male contraceptives (even just a little) would mean a loss in revenue. In a way, you may have eliminated a potential female buyer for a male buyer. Like I said, I don't know if that theory holds true because of course you would want to sell to both men and women. It seems having a business exclusively geared toward one … | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/09/20 04:07 PM |
| 5 | Every man needs to see Marriage StoryI've heard someone else recommend it too so I'll watch it sometime. The trailer looked like a snooze fest. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/09/20 03:54 PM |
| 6 | Old Fashioned DatingI've been at a party and like been in that stellar mood where I could talk to anyone. I had a gf at the time. I tried talking to this chick (who was quietly standing in the corner) because she was wearing a band's shirt that I liked. It was clear from the get-go that I was threatening to her or whatever. So I walk away. This other random dude saw the whole thing go down and said "harsh dude" For some reason, me and that dude were on the same wavelength and I started pretending like I was dying. … | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/09/20 02:12 AM |
| 2 | How is this shit not similar to the main mgtow subreddit but for women, then too they haven't been quarantined? This double standard is really preposterousI'm like 70% certain that sub is run by incels trying to stir up shit. The other 30% are probably just bitter women having a moment of catharsis, "I can play this game to!" Except everyone knows that regular women don't need "to game" the system because it's already heavily tilted in their favor. Women don't need a subreddit to be critical of men because most of society is critical of men, especially in the dating world. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/09/20 07:06 AM |
| 2 | An absurd thought experimentGiven that in this scenario only the guy points the gun. Similar to how most marriages are usually women "pointing the gun" | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/09/20 06:39 AM |
| 4 | An absurd thought experimentWell then she's stupid lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/09/20 06:32 AM |
| 32 | I am married, this is 100% true. I am here to warn other men. I wish I was a true MGTOW.I don't think it's as obvious a bad deal, so guys don't investigate it, especially if you grew up with an intact family and had a moderately stable upbringing. If you grew up with parents in an ok marriage you probably didn't bother seeing the divorce statistics. And even if you did see those statistics you would assume that you'd beat the odds. Also married parents will pressure you to be married (like begets like). And even if you found yourself in a shit marriage you would justify it to yours… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/09/20 05:08 AM |
| 5 | An old advice from my fatherI'm still handsome though... Right? | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/09/20 02:47 PM |
| 29 | An old advice from my fatherIt's a female fantasy. Someone who is respected by the community killing themselves because of this girl. She must be amazing if this high value man is ending his life for her. Personal example: my hs gf broke up with me because "it wasn't working out" I said ok and just moved on. A year later, I climbed the popularity ladder. She had trouble cultivating clout. A girl at a party kept pouring drinks down my throat and eventually took me to a bedroom. I was wasted and started crying because I stil… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/09/20 02:45 PM |
| 1 | What have you learned from online dating?It is what it is. Sometimes I'll have one male coworker that I will show funny but inappropriate stuff to. But I have a pretty big filter around women and I'm good at playing the office politics game. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/09/20 07:03 AM |
| 1 | What have you learned from online dating?I've been at work and a girl showed me a meme of a big dick. It was funny. But it's pretty obvious that if I went around the office showing people a meme of a big dick I'd be fired within the week. We're playing by different rules and I've accepted that. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/09/20 09:29 PM |
| 2 | What have you learned from online dating?Yeah I'm almost certain that OLD is the root cause of recent misogyny within the last decade. And the only way these companies could try to fix their platform would mean they lose a ton of money. Also no one cares about dudes being lonely. Is it any wonder so many of them lash out on incel forums? Also being 5'7" in real life isn't all that bad compared to other taller guys. My buddy is 6 foot, married, has a great career, wonderful kid and he has told me that his wife hates him and he is trappe… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/09/20 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Realization: making things mainstream means making them enjoyable for women.Shifting burden of proof is one of the most insidious argument tools. It happens wayyyy to often and I wish more people called it out. If you make a claim then the burden of proof is on you, not the person who disagrees with your claim. My friend: "Time shares are a solid investment!" Me: "I don't know..." My friend: "Prove to me that time shares are a bad investment" Me doing all the research to confirm that time shares are in fact a poor investment Me: "Ok I think they are a bad investment her… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/09/20 02:26 PM |
| 2 | What have you learned from online dating?Yeah I might coastfire then checkout south america and see if I could live there. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 10:30 PM |
| 2 | What have you learned from online dating?I'm familiar with FIRE and I'm hoping to CoastFire in about 5 years. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 09:59 PM |
| 5 | What have you learned from online dating?She likes getting drunk at the resort and feeling white guilt. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 09:40 PM |
| 7 | What have you learned from online dating?I hope to get there someday. It's pretty obvious that the world doesn't want anything to do with me, so I'm going to get mine and get out. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 09:38 PM |
| 5 | What have you learned from online dating?Even at 5'11" you don't make the cut lol Better work on that confidence! /s Edit: I'm exaggerating to some degree here. Obviously you would do better than me on OLD. And maybe if I stuck around I could have dated a single mom. But you would probably think it's silly that so many women who are 5'2" demand a 6' tall guy. And your height just gets your foot in the door, you still have to jump through the same hoops. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 09:07 PM |
| 18 | What have you learned from online dating?The experience between men and women on those sites are night and day. I remember asking for advice on reddit how to make my profile better (circa 2014) I followed their advice and got some decent pictures of me both with groups of friends and me doing my hobbies (which was guitar and running at the time). I don't mean to sound vain, but I looked good and wore flattering clothes. I've chatted with girls in bars, so I knew I wasn't hideous. Had a well thought out bio that even reddit approved. An… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 08:05 PM |
| 3 | Do any of you guys have female friends you hang out with?Oh totally. She's trying to rope in another simp and when I declined I look like a jerk. That dude is gunna waste 2-3 years hoping that girl sits in his lap. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 04:40 AM |
| 2 | Do any of you guys have female friends you hang out with?Why do you mock my pain dadbot_2? 😭 | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 04:06 AM |
| 3 | Do any of you guys have female friends you hang out with?The last female friend I had was a real head-fuck. This was about a year ago. Really nice to me, always touching me, always taking the joke to a sexual place. I'd known her for like 2 months. She told me that she broke up with her bf and was so ready to date someone else. So I asked her out. She told me she had to think about it. And I knew what that meant. So I got the text message later saying "I'm interested in someone else" I said "No worries" and blocked her. This was more for my sake becau… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/09/20 02:36 AM |
| 3 | $100/day for 4.5 years28 That amount of money (plus what I already have saved) means I never have to worry about the future. I might get an itching to buy a house and that will take a few years more. What I really need right now is a goal. I keep waiting for this epiphany to drag me to some other goal but it doesn't happen. So I just imagine what kind of life I want. so what is a great day to me? Wake up, run 6 miles. Have poached eggs on garlic-butter seared asparagus with a side of tomato. Watch the market and get … | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/20 02:16 PM |
| 1 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsAnd if I fall ass backwards into a good job? r/fatfire Seriously there's fuckers critiquing or selling software for 150k. 9-5, no weekend, no call. WHAT THE FUCK. I've had heat exhaustion mowing yards in July, in texas, near a hornets nest so I wear pants and a long sleeve shirt. From 7am to 7pm. I made a whopping $96 in 2015. I just want to smack these yuppies across the face. Idk I'm drunk and ranting. My point is that, the value of your work is in fact arbitrary. Human appraisal of value is i… | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/20 01:07 PM |
| 1 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsI love houses. But I just can't pull the trigger on houses. My brother has bought two and I see the appeal that people talk about. A big part of me is like: "I probably won't give a shit about this place in 3 years" I grew up poor, living in motels and tents, and divorced parents going back and forth. The idea that something is "my home" is alien to me. I think I'm gunna be nomadic until I absolutely need a house. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/20 12:52 PM |
| 1 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsMy current net worth is not 500k...? | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/20 12:46 PM |
| 1 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsMostly budgeting. And I'm just now realizing that I have a huge family and their birthday/Christmas presents could be a problem (like a 3 grand problem) My 18 year old brother is getting into graphic (computer?) design stuff so I want to get him one of those computer pad draw things. Another brother just bought a rental property and I want to help him with stuff. I have four nieces all under the age of 5 so princess, pink plastic stuff too. I lov'em all to pieces I just need to be smarter about … | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/20 12:45 PM |
| 1 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsThat is something to consider. Also my needs may change. I'm not the same person I was 5 years ago, I'll probably be different 5 years from now too. Ideally I just look at my balance and say "well time to put in the hours" I have a healthcare job that will always have an opening somewhere. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/20 12:29 PM |
| 2 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsThat doesn't sound right. 20k every year for 10 years? Contribution sum: 200,000 Total: 1.3 million? That would be 35% roi Where most people say around 8% roi And I use 5% roi to be extra safe. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/20 07:53 AM |
| 2 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsI plan on working part-time at whole foods (there's a few chains that give health insurance to part-time workers) and get a discount on food. The amount of money (plus the amount I have already saved) is the breaking point where if I never contribute past my goal, I would still have about one million in the bank at 59.5 years old (this is using a very conservative 5% return estimate at 31 years). I haven't totally escaped the rat race but I would be ok working 3 days a week and day trading for a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/09/20 07:44 AM |
| 4 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsLol I bought a book shelf from a guy on Craigslist in college. I thought 20 bucks was a steal but that thing was a piece of shit. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/20 11:32 PM |
| 7 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsYeah you're right. I've always been somewhat frugal but when I was working two jobs I felt like I should "treat" myself more. So I'd buy beer or steaks or video games. I probably blew 2/3 of that part time paycheck. Pretty much negating the saving benefit of having the part time job. But I probably would have been much less happy if I didn't blow that money. So it's a catch-22. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/20 11:21 PM |
| 2 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsWhat's your side hustle? I wish I learned web development. My only side hustle skills are landscaping and guitar lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/20 11:12 PM |
| 9 | $100/day for 4.5 yearsThanks I'll check that book out. I'm considering getting a second job because my primary job isn't really all that demanding. But idk when I was 24, I got burnt out quick when I was working one full time job and one part time with a 3-hour credit course. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/20 11:08 PM |
| 1 | I just got divorced, she cheated on me then took my money, my house, and my kidsThat sucks man. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/20 08:34 PM |
| 0 | I just got divorced, she cheated on me then took my money, my house, and my kidsEveryone says that until they actually do it. I've never cheated nor wanted to cheat, but I'm not going to pretend I'm a saint. My point is that if I did cheat I would feel guilty about it later and try to make the split amicable. Why is OP's ex being such a cunt after she cheated? Also ITT: people that don't understand what devil's advocate means. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/20 08:28 PM |
| -12 | I just got divorced, she cheated on me then took my money, my house, and my kidsI want to be devil's advocate here and ask why she cheated? Why did she marry you and then turn a 180? I don't buy the notion that women will marry you with the plan to divorce later, unless you're a millionaire. I don't mean to make light of the situation. It's just... I could see myself cheating, I would feel bad about that and try to be fair about the split. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/09/20 01:20 PM |
| 1 | Man Ordered To Pay Spousal Support Even Though He Wasn’t Married, Had No House Or ChildrenYeah the article says the guy is from Canada, I have no idea what their laws are like but they sound insane. I hope some con man in Canada abuses this law. I was speaking from a U.S. stand-point. I've researched common law marriages because I live in a state that recognizes that law. What I especially don't like about common law marriage is how much can the judge can define the relationship. "Well I know you didn't say that you were married but you took your gf to Christmas at your folk's house … | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/09/20 12:57 PM |
| 6 | Rat race 🐀I would say that I don't really care about money or status either. But one thing that changed my outlook on career advancement is that everytime I have advanced, my job actually became easier (both in physical and sometimes mental terms). Working $8/hr was some of the hardest most stressful work I've ever done. I've also realized that there's complete morons making 100k and doing hardly anything. Why wouldn't I pursue more money that is easier? One day you might see what I'm talking about but I … | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/09/20 02:25 AM |
| 17 | Think about how much more it is going to suck getting a divorce 10-20 years from now.Well that social media illusion that they like to project might keep their marriage going on for longer than it ever should have. That sounds like hell. Like they are so worried about being a hypocrite that they just keep up the illusion until there is a really really bad breaking point. I've seen this first hand with a couple where the guy was a doctor and the girl was a lawyer, you'd think that everything was perfect until it just totally blows up. I could see bitter marriages prolonged becaus… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/09/20 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Let's have a serious mgtow talk,I don't look at it like my country is at fault. Post WWII america enjoyed a prosperous era while everyone else was literally rebuilding. The U.S. got a head start and the middle class was a fluke. Now everyone is pissy because they can't compete on the world stage. I've worked with philippinos, mexicans, nigerians, and chinese folks and they are relentless when it comes to work. Americans got fat, lazy, and entitled. Serves them right! I'm like an immigrant, I'm not entitled to anything and I wi… | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/09/20 08:23 AM |
| 1 | Whats your guys perspective about girls? a GF is a must have in life? i feel like im not good enough bc basially no one likes me.I want to play devil's advocate here and say that it's normal to seek validation at such a young age. Learning what is acceptable and what isn't helps people better navigate our society. I don't prescribe to the notion that all mgtows should be hermits, I think we should get the most out of society. And that means playing by society's rules somewhat. You know who really doesn't care about validation? Dudes with Asperger's syndrome, yeah they are living their truth but usually can't function in s… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/20 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Whats your guys perspective about girls? a GF is a must have in life? i feel like im not good enough bc basially no one likes me.I want you to imagine that you actually got in a relationship with your dream girl. She loves you, all that jazz. You got what you wanted. It's very likely you will still be distraught about yourself. It's usually after getting laid a couple times that guys realize sex and relationships don't fix whatever makes you feel insecure. Many pretty boys fall into the trap of sex/relationship validation cycle and never grow past 20. So listen, imagine having that dream girl, fantastic. Now that you have… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/20 11:13 PM |
| 12 | Let's have a serious mgtow talk,Hell yeah. Most people are so cautious right now. This is exactly the time to be bold. Even though I have a stable job, I've applied to so many jobs these past couple of weeks all over the U.S. Also applied to work for a garbage service that's like 2 hours of work a day. Not that I need the money but I can get closer to my CoastFire goal. But the main takeaway here is that families and spouses make it impossible to be this mobile, to take these chances. Say I get that job and get fired within a … | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/20 09:18 AM |
| 10 | Man Ordered To Pay Spousal Support Even Though He Wasn’t Married, Had No House Or ChildrenThe 7 year rule is a myth. To meet the requirements for common law marriage you have to 1) Live together 2) be eligible for marriage (so you can't be common law married while you're married to someone else) 3) present yourself to the community as husband and wife. There is no time requirement, however the amount of time could be used as evidence. So you move in with your gf, neither of y'all are married, you tell your family and neighbors you're married and you would be considered common law mar… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/20 03:11 AM |
| 2 | What is a list of behaviors that it seems all women do, things they say and such that is really upsetting and makes you feel hopeless? I have my own list of behaviors I encounter. Comments?Idk it's still easy for a fat 35 year old single mom to rope in some dope. She'll get a bailout. He'll get pussy occasionally and have bragging rights for being such a good man. Yeah their options aren't great after 30 but they still have options. My comment is really about the amount of effort put in. Imagine being a fat, broke, boring virgin and having women lining up to date you? I don't think men are better than women but within the context of dating, we better be. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/20 02:41 AM |
| 3 | What is a list of behaviors that it seems all women do, things they say and such that is really upsetting and makes you feel hopeless? I have my own list of behaviors I encounter. Comments?Yeah the number of options women have means they don't really have to put in effort. That frumpy-looking, college drop out chick has like 3 dudes in her back pocket. Why should she ever have to try? | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/20 02:12 AM |
| 6 | What is a list of behaviors that it seems all women do, things they say and such that is really upsetting and makes you feel hopeless? I have my own list of behaviors I encounter. Comments?I would say just generally women putting in so little effort for conversations. It's not a reciprocal situation. It's more I have to steer the conversation and set the tone, if the conversation wanes well that's on me. It's just not fun being in that situation. I feel more like a car salesman. And of course, she could be cold the whole time and you think "Oh this is not going anywhere" and she texts you a week later asking why I ghosted her. Likewise, the girl who is flirty and engaging the whol… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/09/20 01:44 AM |
| 3 | Just a genuine questionI've wondered if divorce court will have an update once the lesbian couples divorce. Imagine a high-paid pregnant attorney having to pay alimony (maybe child support?) to her broke ex. Which one should you be empathetic to? Which one pays the lawyers? Who gets to use domestic violence as a scape-goat. Suddenly people will say, "Well that's not fair! Alimony is messed up yo! Down with the patriarchy!" | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/09/20 11:41 AM |
| 1 | A song I use to love but now turns my stomachI think what I really wanted to say is that I keep superimposing these simp caricatures/narratives on things I like and it's honestly ruining it for me. I wish I could erase all this red pill crap and just enjoy a good song. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/09/20 10:49 AM |
| 5 | Just a genuine questionThis isn't a mgtow perspective this is just me talking here. I'm all for people doing their own thing, I don't have any plans to police trans people. But I think very very few people are legit trans. And of course, I don't decide who I deem is legit trans so I take people at their word. I think that gender dysphoria is likely to occur in people with anxiety disorders so they cling to something that makes them say "Oh now I know why I feel bad all the time" I think that quite a lot of trans peopl… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/09/20 10:19 AM |
| 2 | A song I use to love but now turns my stomachWho says they're red pilled? | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/09/20 01:46 AM |
| 5 | Birth Rates continue to sink.Also the general population is getting fatter which can lower test levels. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/09/20 12:48 AM |
| 2 | MGTOW songs/musichttps://youtu.be/Vm-NW1RwPY8 | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/09/20 12:41 AM |
| 2 | MGTOW songs/musicLol I just made a post about a song. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/09/20 11:21 PM |
| 3 | Unpopular Opinion: Supernumiphone (a a mod on this sub) removes all of the good content that everyone upvotes, and makes this sub boring as hell.There's some meaningful discussion here, every once in a while. Like awhile back someone asked if they should lie to their employer about being married (the poster believed married guys get more perks with the family excuse). I thought that was a great idea, I covered many shifts because my coworker had families (fuck me for being single, right?). Someone pointed out that your employer will probably be able to see your tax filing status and the fall out from lying could be worse than what you ga… | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/09/20 11:19 PM |
| 8 | Unpopular Opinion: Supernumiphone (a a mod on this sub) removes all of the good content that everyone upvotes, and makes this sub boring as hell.Can you give an example of something you thought should be here but was removed? I don't mind reading about a dude getting fucked over. But like dudes talking about women wearing makeup, or being too fat, or annoying or being picky it sounds like a broken record. Or the anti-sjw circle jerk which 90% of people already agree with. Like I'll come across a post elsewhere on reddit where someone is saying "kids shouldn't be taking hormones to transition genders" and it gets upvoted and gilded. And I… | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/09/20 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Objectively speaking, i'm a little surprised at the outrage towards cutiesI am so out of the loop. What are y'all talking about? | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/09/20 07:26 PM |
| 3 | I cringe so hard anytime I hear someone say “my wife won’t let me....”I mean if it works for you then fine. I can already tell you what would happen if I said the same thing you said in your situation. Me: "Are we fuckin'?" Her: "what?" *Because this is a bar, you have to project your voice Me: "ARE WE FUCKING?" Her: "YOU'RE DISGUSTING" Everyone else turns around and all they can piece together is that you asked her about fucking. Congrats! You're asked to leave. And everyone (including your friends or potential fwb) think you are a creep. Maybe you're smoother bu… | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/09/20 10:48 PM |
| 1 | I cringe so hard anytime I hear someone say “my wife won’t let me....”As much as I'd like to put those kind of women in their place. There's like a 9/10 chance that I'll be viewed as in the wrong. Karens are the way they are because their behavior usually works. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/09/20 08:21 PM |
| 5 | I cringe so hard anytime I hear someone say “my wife won’t let me....”I have a coworker that is like this. I calmly told her to "let me worry about that" She didn't take it well. She still doesn't get the hint that I really don't want her opinion so now I just interrupt her by talking to someone else. I'm not going to argue with people, especially over something that is extremely trivial. Maybe she is right about saving me 5 seconds doing this or that but I don't need to be policed by her. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/09/20 08:00 PM |
| 3 | Why don't women seem to want to GTOW?en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis Citation 27 pretty much confirms the variability hypothesis in so much as cognitive abilities for students. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/09/20 02:31 AM |
| 3 | Why don't women seem to want to GTOW?It's only been within the last 3 years that a meta-analysis showed that it to be true. At least by statistical measures. However there is still some criticism about the methods involved (for example IQ measure has been shown to be an awful measuring tool). I'm pretty much agnostic on the matter. What I find interesting is people that try to explain it away using social commentary, but they fall into a trap of explaining why men are doing great because it's not awesome being a dude. This in the b… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/09/20 02:21 AM |
| 3 | Why don't women seem to want to GTOW?You're talking about the variability hypothesis. One of the rebuttals for that hypothesis (by a female scientist) is that men are expected to accomplish more. But a lot of people aren't satisfied by that rebuttal because that would be admitting men have greater expectations placed on them. Alright that explains the right side of the bell curve but not the left. The left side of the bell curve is considered the destructive nature that occurs when those expectations aren't met (think alcoholics or… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/09/20 01:13 AM |
| 4 | Even after being secure and confident with myself I still find chasing women to be a waste of timeIt is certainly not mutual. It's more of a risk vs reward situation. I've asked a girl to dance and 5 minutes later a guy wants to beat my ass for touching her (which I never did). I've asked a girl out and it totally ruined our friend group. Instead of saying "No I'm not into you" some women justify it further as "he's a creep". Which is totally fucked up. Imagine a girl, who finds a friend group and slowly falls in love with a guy. Then she says that she has feelings for him. Now imagine that … | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/09/20 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Going on datesWait... She actually said that? My god take her out for coffee and then laugh out of there | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/09/20 07:57 AM |
| 11 | Even after being secure and confident with myself I still find chasing women to be a waste of timeIt's really just a job interview. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/09/20 01:19 PM |
| 8 | Even after being secure and confident with myself I still find chasing women to be a waste of timeThere's gunna be guys that say it's worth it. And for them yeah maybe it's worth it. For me, the post-nut clarity is real. Maybe we've romanticized sex like we have to be totally in-tune with this person in order to fuck but that's a retarded concept. I find myself laying there and just wishing she would stop talking and the reality hits me that if she was a dude I would never hangout with this guy. I would probably make fun of that hypothetical guy for having such dumb shallow opinions. The pos… | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/09/20 01:16 PM |
| 2 | My experience with an online female streamer (real story)It is disheartening when you find out she had a backup (or maybe a main and you were the backup). The point is, you're rarely anything special to her, which is bizarre because that seems to be what women demand, to be special. I remember breaking up with a girl who I came to realize had no personality, was overweight, and broke. I remember feeling so bad about letting her go. She got a new bf within the month. It's jarring to see how quickly women can move on. That's why I don't really care abou… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/20 07:58 PM |
| 3 | What's youe experience working for a female superior? Are they all Karen's?Most are fine. Some have serious penis envy. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/20 02:19 AM |
| 1 | When did you feel you REALLY became a man? How did you know?Agreed 😂🔫 | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/20 02:11 AM |
| 1 | When did you feel you REALLY became a man? How did you know?He's a winner in that he will never be fired and he doesn't do any work. It's pretty incredible to see what he got away with. I've lost all faith in any kind of meritocracy. However, he's not the person I would ever want to be. So it's just a matter of perspective. To me, he is king of shit mountain. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/09/20 10:43 PM |
| 6 | When did you feel you REALLY became a man? How did you know?Anger is such a great emotion if it's channeled properly. I remember being so angry that I used that energy to work longer and study harder. I was so pissed off about where my life was that it snapped me out of apathy. Anger is your friend. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/09/20 04:59 AM |
| 11 | When did you feel you REALLY became a man? How did you know?When I told my 60 year old co-worker that he makes my job harder. This was after he threw my work on the floor when I told him no about something trivial. He had been nothing but rude to me the entire 3 years I worked at my job. He was literally twice my size, got in my face and began screaming and threatening to punch me. I was at my breaking point and I was very afraid up until that point then the endorphins kicked in and I felt peaceful? I was actually plotting suicide so why should I care wh… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/09/20 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Women can now reproduce without men; congratulations my fellow men, we are now free from all women's concerns.She's so brave! /s | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Women can now reproduce without men; congratulations my fellow men, we are now free from all women's concerns.One requirement that I thought was interesting was that the donor can not have ever participated in homosexual behavior. I've known dudes that look like hitler's wet dream that are gay (and successful and very intelligent). I believe that sperm banks are a business like anything else and if she doesn't want homo jizz then ok. But it tells me that the criteria of how they select donors has nothing to do with the actual healthiness of the child but how likely that child will pass on genes. Some pe… | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Dad is upset that I'm not chasing tailYou're right I won't come back to this subreddit. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 08:36 PM |
| 3 | Dad is upset that I'm not chasing tailI'm in my mid-20's My post is mostly just a rant. I can honestly tell you my dad does not respect my thoughts and feelings. He is the kind of guy that will not drop the topic or think it's about something worse. Any problem I've ever had becomes unnecessarily escalated and shared by my dad. Does he mean well? Yes. So I don't want to dance around that mine field of questions. And I don't know how else to convey that to you in a convincing way. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 01:13 PM |
| 9 | Dad is upset that I'm not chasing tailI've had two relationships. Even when ou take away all the mgtow theory. From my experience: I simply did not enjoy the relationship. Maybe I look like a flawed human to you but when I realized I don't have to date I was much happier. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 06:27 AM |
| 5 | Dad is upset that I'm not chasing tailNo. Mid-20's. I don't want a relationship. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 06:19 AM |
| 24 | Dad is upset that I'm not chasing tailThat would be a solution except just like saying "I'm gay" the conversation would not abruptly stop. My dad would ask for more explanation and probably ask for me to have my testosterone tested. Then he'll talk about me being asexual to extended family at Christmas. As you can imagine, I'm always careful which information to disclose to my father because he seems to make it much much worse. I wish I could say "I'm asexual" and that would be the end but it's not how my dad works. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 05:55 AM |
| 11 | Dad is upset that I'm not chasing tailI thought it sounded too emo but whatever it's how I feel most the time. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 05:10 AM |
| 41 | Dad is upset that I'm not chasing tailMy dad is the kind of person who would go above and beyond to show his support. If I told him I was gay he would show up at my house in drag and try to hook me up with every dude he suspects is gay. I'm exaggerating of course, but he would let everyone know I was gay and that would be a huge headache because I want less attention, not more. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 04:52 AM |
| 2 | Pretty much this. I need certification or something ASAP. Willing to study anything at this point, probably some online vocational school or something but I am not interested in fucking "8k hours of experience" I need helpIf at 20 y.o. you put 35K in a vanguard accountIf at 60 y.o. it would be worth around 750K If at 25 you put 50K into a Vanguard ETF, at 60 it would be worth around 750K. I need to have 100K to accomplish the same amount of growth within the same amount of time. If I knew what I know now I would have just worked as much as I could to get 35K before 20 and then think about college later. Most jobs are bullshit. The most precious thing a young man has is time. If you can put away money at a young a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Controversial opinion: being the boyfriend of a fat girl who was used to being pumped and dumped can be rewarding.You do you. I dated a chubby girl for awhile and although I was attracted to her, I could see that her lifestyle was unhealthy. I picked up some of her bad habits and got fat too. I'm all for having a good time and chubby girls are great but don't intertwine yourself too much if you value your health. She may end up resenting you for making healthier choices. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Controversial opinion: being the boyfriend of a fat girl who was used to being pumped and dumped can be rewarding.Considering that 60% of adults are overweight or obese it's more like he is just getting an average American. Not the worst. The average. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Ive heard scientists in the netherlands are asia are about 10 years away from making the first artificial womb for humans.Regardless if lateralization is discredited. Testosterone does heavily influence the development of those characteristics. Calling someone left-brain or right-brain may be a misnomer but the link between testosterone in the womb and STEM-like intelligence is fairly strong. Everyone is going to want their kids to be a doctor or scientist or engineer and so once enough data is available, tweaking with kids in the womb is going to be Pandora's box. Beta bucks billy will get to select his son's Chad… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 06:39 PM |
| 6 | Movies about MGTOW/Non-romantic loveThe porn parody is much better "12 horny men" | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 02:21 AM |
| 2 | Movies about MGTOW/Non-romantic loveFrankly, I'm so sick of movies shoehorning in a romantic subplot. It's like they're going down a list of requirements that they got from their brain-dead focus group. Main character with no personality? Check! Black best friend (probably a nerd)? Check! Unnecessarily aggressive antagonist? Check! Equally boring love interest? Check! Edit: the movie Nightcrawler does have a romantic interest but it fits well in the story. Great movie, great story. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Book recomendations (that are not related to MGTOW)I've been meaning to read black swam. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/20 02:03 AM |
| 2 | Book recomendations (that are not related to MGTOW)Doctoring Data by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick. Has really opened my eyes about being critical of data and extrapolating meaning from that data. Yes yes I know it sounds dry as hell, but it reads like a conversation with great examples. Everyone uses data! But if you can't think critically then data can be used to mislead you. Highly recommend for anyone who is trying to sharpen their thinking. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/20 02:02 AM |
| 6 | Female sex privilege - Janice fiamengo does it againI'm not trying to explain Weinstein's behavior away but... Harvey had chicks clawing at his junk constantly. I bet that seriously fucked up his understanding of boundaries. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 10:03 PM |
| 10 | Hypothetical question: At what point, for you personally, would you think 'I am no longer MGTOW'?I've considered having a well thought out list of characteristics that would allow me to trust a woman more as a cohabitant and maybe even have children. 1) At least an Associate's degree. 2) No excessive drinking. 3) Good relationship with her father. 4) The ability to cook and clean. 5) A want to be healthy (both physically and mentally). 6) No depressed, no abused, no victims of whatever, sorry not dealing with that. 7) Can financially support herself. 8) Has her own friends and hobbies. I'm … | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 10:37 AM |
| 2 | It finally happenedThe crazy part is that it doesn't really matter how bad or good the guy is. Any woman can make a claim about the dad and it is gospel. Imagine being a kid, you don't see your dad anymore and your mom drinks all day telling you about how terrible your dad is. So you start to believe her. Maybe he drove her to be a drunk. You, as a young man, has made the commitment to be better than your father. To uplift women and respect them the way you wish your mom was respected. And reality hits you upside … | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/20 09:24 PM |
| 3 | It finally happenedThe worst part is that your ex is going to tell your kids that you were the worst. Maybe you were bad. Maybe she was bad. Maybe you were both bad. The take-away here is that she can totally control the narrative about who you are to her children. Not your children. Her children. I grew up hating my father because of everything my mom said, some of it true, most of it embellished. When I actually got to know my mom as an adult I realized she was a pretty awful person too. Both of my parents are j… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/20 08:16 PM |
| 2 | I keep becoming the workhorse and I hate itI get what y'all are saying but how exactly am I suppose to view work? I'm not suppose to be happy about having a decent job? (after having years of shit jobs). | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/20 11:20 PM |
| 2 | I keep becoming the workhorse and I hate itCan I give an honest answer without getting the armchair psychiatrist? I like feeling competent and needed. I've learned to backpedal on that because it has no meaning. I don't think there's anything wrong with how I like to feel. It's just being exploited has made me more cautious to help. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/20 10:35 AM |
| 2 | I keep becoming the workhorse and I hate itReally good advice. I think I'm in a low ceiling kind of job. Or I can't get any further without a Master's Degree (which may not pay much more). My job seems to be the kind of job people get to and say "alright I'm ok with doing this until I die" So I'm going to try to leverage into a better paying department with skills I learn in my current job. I plan on semi-retiring before 30. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/20 01:45 AM |
| 8 | I keep becoming the workhorse and I hate itI think you're right. I don't think I can keep doing this game for another 30 years. Honestly having a wife and kids would guranatee that I would have to keep playing this dumb game. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/20 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?Statement: HarshTruth69 diddles children. HarshTruth69: No I don't. Well you haven't proved to me that you don't diddle kids. So therefore you're a pedophile. That's the logic you're working with. Where every claim gets to have a fair consideration with absolutely no viable evidence. Where we disagree is probably viable evidence. Seeing you walk out of a school may be viable evidence for someone. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?Right because you don't pay taxes and don't go the speed limit? You follow the exact same rules as I do. I just don't believe in magic. And that has no consequence on my life. Maybe believing in magic has probably isolated you (which is ok because you'll just double-down on your own narcissism). | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?Nope not a Capricorn. Just a healthy skeptical human being who is tired of this bullshit. If there's more like you maybe evangelical wiccan will become a thing. "Send $10 and we will astral project through your screen" | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?Those are magic tricks... He even has a statement saying those are magic tricks. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?It's plain. The nether realm is an actual plain, a flat surface where your grandma gets rug burns on her knees. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?You're the worst kind of moron. A moron that recruits other morons. A moron that is the Dunning-kruger effect incarnate. Not dumb enough to follow but arrogant enough to lead. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?I don't think it's real because literally nobody does it. Your going to show me old videos of a con man moving paperclips and call it proof. No, it's not proof. It's like you want me to have a phD in your bullshit in order to be the authority that says "it's fake" No the burden of proof is on you. Prove me wrong and waste your life staring at pennies. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?Oh my God you're a child | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?That's great I'm almost certain that will never happen and you'll never admit that you were wrong about telekinesis. Because your ego is trying so hard to make you feel special. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:23 PM |
| 0 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?I've seen it. It's bullshit. Astral projecting is bullshit. Except me. Your dead grandma blows me in the astral plain. You should come by to see me jizz all over her face. You seem like an experienced asshole projector. Shouldn't be hard to find me reaming out your dead grandma on the nether plain. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?The burden of proof is in you! Oh hey, by the way I can materialize spaghetti from my hands. Don't believe me? Sigh so close minded. Maybe the reason why we burned witches back in the day was because they were fucking obnoxious twats like you? Ties witch to big rock and throws her in the lake Magic your way out of this fuckhead | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:10 PM |
| 2 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?No very open minded. What's your address, I will go to your wizard castle and watch you have a brain aneurysm moving pebbles. You're a fucking idiot. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?Ok so I can access this on the internet. But somehow, no one has tried to validate this through personal gain? Oh right, I'm sure the government kills off anyone who masters esp telekinesis. Such a convenient excuse. I would pay money to see you not move a paperclip with that hollow Mellon you call a brain. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?Then you should be a fucking millionaire magician by now. Because your audience wouldn't believe in telekinesis. Oh let me guess you can only move grains of salt when you're really stoned? What a fucking joke. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?I think understanding the rules make it easier to play the game. When your engineer buddy tells you that he's going to propose to the chick that brushed him off in high school and college you know that's a beta bucks divorce rape about to happen. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 08:53 PM |
| 2 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?How much do those chicks actually make? I heard some of them are shoving Pringles cans up their ass for like $5/hr and on cam for 12 hours straight. I imagine it takes awhile to get a following and you got to be consistently shoving things up your pussy/butthole. I'm sure there's some that get rich off it but I bet like 90% would be better off working a regular minimum wage job. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 08:44 PM |
| 3 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?It also makes you appreciate everything more because you didn't have it. Going from 15k to 25k to 45k to 65k to 80k in less than 5 years makes me appreciate everything. I am very aware that the world does not owe me shiiiiiiiiiiiiit. And I've felt what it's like to be totally worthless. Newsflash! Males are disposable! If anything, I feel like things just being normal are worth celebrating. I'm under no illusion that this world is anything close to "fair" and I wish that word was never created. … | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 08:30 PM |
| 0 | Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man?Who the fuck is upvoting you? Talking about telekinesis and Omnipotent. Sounds like delusions of grandeur supported by narcissism. Are there a bunch of retarded wiccans on this sub? | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Ive heard scientists in the netherlands are asia are about 10 years away from making the first artificial womb for humans.It's going to be totally fucked when they see that having a bit more testosterone for boys and girls in the womb will result in more STEM-like intelligence. Also to hedge bets on having a heterosexual child. Yes you read that right. Having a bit more testosterone exposure in the womb results in more Right-Brain-Hemisphere personality traits. This won't make the girls lesbians, just more guy-like in their thinking. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 04:31 PM |
| 3 | Ive heard scientists in the netherlands are asia are about 10 years away from making the first artificial womb for humans.Honestly this would be a huge win to women. Child birth is extremely taxing on the body and women can have trouble recovering. Hence maternity leave. But think about this. For the most part, society views women as the primary parent and I think this is in large part because they are the incubator for the child. Having an artificial womb would be a man and a woman putting their gametes into this incubator. So we would effectively de-couple pregnancy from the biological mother. Women would be view… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Being rewarded for stupid decisionsI think it's a personal preference. My younger brother is pretty handy and seems to enjoy properties. He also worked in construction management so he seems to know more about houses than me (or other yuppies who haphazardly enter real estate). I'm not as excited about properties and so I mostly go with boring but reliable vanguard funds. Some showing 9% roi which is pretty damn good when it's something you don't have to actively manage. I'm a big believer in pursuing investments that you are exc… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Thought experiment: What if men started marrying "up"?When the guy does marry up I doubt that he will have the same access of wealth similar to our regular rich dude:girl scenario. The woman will likely curtail and control the guy's spending. Financial abuse is a big reason women wanted to work as to not be dependent on their partner. The guy will likely get shit from other people for using his wife's money. He'll also have little sympathy from society when she uses money as a way to keep him dependent on her. Because she is paying for the movie, s… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 03:01 AM |
| 1 | With courts becoming increasingly Misandric, more men will opt out of marriage. What do you think a marriageless society will look like?There's better ways to avoid some taxes that don't involve working less or having a child. If you can be self-employed, you can literally be your own company and write-off a ton of shit. There's so many avenues that can lower your tax burden so I'm not sweating it. I don't plan on making over 88K anytime in my life | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 12:40 AM |
| 10 | Just to let you all know, we gay men are not treated any better by women.Seeing female managers call out female subordinates is hilarious. There's no crocodile tears, no excuses. It's like watching a kid beat up another kid you dislike (but you can't beat up a kid because you're an adult lol). The girl power narrative goes out the window when the manager sees her "sisters" being lazy and whiney. I'm almost certain that gay and female low-level managers are the best because they have more social capital, and this is especially good if you have a short turnover rate in… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/20 04:43 PM |
| 23 | Just to let you all know, we gay men are not treated any better by women.I like hearing gay guys' perspectives. There was a guy who hit on me when I was a waiter and I respectfully declined when he gave me his number, it was light-hearted and he took it like a champ. The guy's three female friends wouldn't let it go and kept making fun of the situation. He finally said "It takes guts to be rejected, y'all wouldn't know that" None of the women could wrap their heads around actually putting in effort to ask someone out. It's just something that happens to them. So it's… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/20 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Being rewarded for stupid decisionsWhat I'm trying to say isthat if we're just hitting a bump in the road I would buy ETFs. If this is SHTF for the US then that is SHTF for the world. In both situations, I would not buy gold. This is going to sound obnoxious but people flocking to gold right now makes me dislike the idea of gold more and more. Just being contrarian I suppose. I hope prices drop and I scoop up those stocks for pennies on the dollar. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/20 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Being rewarded for stupid decisionsI have a hard time imagining how someone would use a gold bar or coin in a true 'shit hitting the fan' scenario. Like if the whole U.S. goes to shit that means most other places are totally fucked too. Like gold is valuable in tiny amounts for electronics but it's not like your neighbor is going ask for 2 grams of gold and he'll give you eggs? The whole reason we invented money is because the barter system sucks. If you have a private island then sure, horde some gold. But having gold in a post-… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/20 02:40 AM |
| 2 | Being rewarded for stupid decisionsHere's my thinking right now. I have cash to cover about a year's worth of expenses. I have my trading nest egg. I also have my 401k and IRA. Now yeah, I will cash out my nest egg because it just doesn't make sense to me, that stock should tank. But my retirement accounts are all well diversified. Now, you might say "the market will crash and you'll be fucked" and maybe MAYBE this is the time the U.S. economy totally collapses beyond repair. In the worst case scenario, regardless of how much mon… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/20 01:44 AM |
| 3 | Why does society as a whole put marriage on a pedestal?Awhile back I was talking to some folks about married vs single guys working. I thought the single guy was the ideal worker, having no family, he could work more. A friend suggested that the single guy may work hard for like a year, maybe two but he will probably grab that job that is a state over. The married man is mostly stuck, his whole identity hinges on whether he can provide for his family. The married man is the ideal worker. He's not going to risk his job. He's not likely to move until … | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/20 01:19 AM |
| 2 | Why does society as a whole put marriage on a pedestal?It's really become a race to the bottom. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/20 01:10 AM |
| 1 | I had an interesting stoner thought about mens motivation for settling down and having a family..I mean that's great. But... Who really cares? I was shitting at a 8th grade level when I was 5 | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/20 12:21 AM |
| 3 | I had an interesting stoner thought about mens motivation for settling down and having a family..Dude you're nuttier than a fruitcake lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/20 11:51 PM |
| 1 | I had an interesting stoner thought about mens motivation for settling down and having a family..How do you know that you have an insanely gifted mind? Maybe you do, it's just that... The people who say that usually aren't as smart as they think. r/iamverysmart And within the context of this conversation, I don't see how intelligence is relevant to finding meaning or quelling death-anxiety. If anything, being oblivious to death would make life easier. Ignorance would be bliss. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/20 11:34 PM |
| 7 | I had an interesting stoner thought about mens motivation for settling down and having a family..I've volunteered with hospice patients and y'know what I learned? No one is ok with death unless they are living in absolute agony. Not the hardcore war veteran, not the pastor, not the physician, not the mother. I think that people try so hard to have a meaningful life because they are afraid of death. And it just straight up doesn't matter because you're going to be terrified regardless what you did or didn't do. I've realized this about myself too. I'm probably going to think "what if" no mat… | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/20 01:40 AM |
| 3 | Don’t waste your time getting marriedI see it on my co-workers' faces. When work is ending and instead of being excited to go home, they look like they are starting a 2nd shift. Marriage and children has not enriched their lives. They lost that spark that makes most guys excited about tomorrow. They aren't excited about new challenges. They only see obstacles because they're carrying their families. They watch Netflix, wear dorky clothes and pray their daughters don't get pregnant before graduating high school. And their wives get … | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/08/20 11:08 PM |
| 10 | Doing what you are supposed to do even on the days when you don't feel like doing it is the key to success and growth. Don't give up buddy! Growth is a long term game.When I was 17/18 I use to lose all ambition and then not do shit. No surprise! That would bite me in the ass later. Sometimes I would be depressed later and it was because I had failed to meet my own standards. This is the power of controlling emotions. You gotta keep going, inspite of your worse day, you gotta keep moving, because then you can be exhausted and say "shit I tried" Because not trying and the regret that follows is real depression, not failure. Depression is the absence of feeling,… | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/08/20 09:55 PM |
| 11 | What was your final straw with your most recent breakup?Part of the reason I got with my ex is because we were both lonely depressed losers. I saw a lot of myself in her and I wanted to encourage her to improve. I saw us as the underdog and we were going to make it. I slowly realized she doesn't want to get better and I fell back into apathy. She didn't have friends because she never tried to make friends. She didn't have hobbies because she never tried anything new. She was getting fatter because she never tried to be healthy. So I felt this obligat… | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/08/20 06:51 PM |
| 1 | With courts becoming increasingly Misandric, more men will opt out of marriage. What do you think a marriageless society will look like?It really says something when guys from good homes are skeptical of marriage. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/20 05:29 PM |
| 2 | I’m burnt out at work. How do I get “unburnt?”Sometimes it takes even less time then that to recharge. I took a week off and was ready to get back to work after 4 days. I think you're right that OP just needs some time to decompress. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/20 03:48 PM |
| 3 | I’m burnt out at work. How do I get “unburnt?”I keep reminding myself that. If for whatever reason I was blacklisted from working my current job, I could easily jump to a low cost of living state/city and work in a subway or pizza butt or whatever and be totally fine. Being single and healthy is a blessing. Even if I totally fuck up, I can always get a new job, a new life, easy-peasy. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/20 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Tinder Dating, it doesn't do it anymoreI treated dating similar to how I treat good friends. I was mistaken to think treating a girl like a good friend was a good idea. Within the context of dating, I really don't think women want to be treated as equals. They want to be treated special without being treated too special lol Chased and chaste | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/07/20 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Tinder Dating, it doesn't do it anymoreI think it's fair to say that a girl who is 1) attractive 2) interesting 3) available, is not going to be on tinder (or not be on for long). When I realized this, it made online dating seem kind of retarded, because the girl I would want to date is not there. If a girl was all 3 she would not be on tinder. Attractive and interesting and have the time to go out don't need tinder. Tinder is for the fugly single moms that can't be bothered to reply because she needs to work 60hr/week at taco bell t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/07/20 10:43 PM |
| 3 | With courts becoming increasingly Misandric, more men will opt out of marriage. What do you think a marriageless society will look like?Except that the person without a child can also exercise agency and lower his effective tax rate too with much less time and money that is required with a child. Just because the parent is not paying that tax money doesn't mean you as the individual are obligated to pay his tax burden. That's why equating a tax credit as a positive and a tax as a negative is a false dichotomy. | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/07/20 05:19 PM |
| 2 | With courts becoming increasingly Misandric, more men will opt out of marriage. What do you think a marriageless society will look like?I bet also that the age disparity of these hookups will be wider too. I couldn't afford anything from 16-25 so dating/clubbing/bars was a rare thing. I wouldn't be surprised if a ten year gap between men and women becomes the norm. Getting laid in my late 20's is way easier than when I was 18. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/20 06:09 PM |
| 3 | With courts becoming increasingly Misandric, more men will opt out of marriage. What do you think a marriageless society will look like?I did the math awhile back but the actual number that a parent would receive in a tax credit is nothing compared to the actual cost of the child. I can't remember what the numbers are but it's like being given a tax credit of $2 when the child is like -$10 in expenses. If you want to talk about credits you can easily exploit much more lucrative tax credits. A credit is not the same as a tax. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/20 06:03 PM |
| 11 | What’s a woman’s purpose in a man’s life?Oh I definitely get that sentiment. I've had a coworker jokingly talk about how I must have tons of time for video games since I'm single. Which I agree and smile (I don't even like video games that much, but I don't want to break the illusion people have of me). https://youtu.be/8d6cdcNKJRY Meanwhile I've know many married and single women that are sucking down wine every chance they have. It's funny how our society views a mature adult. Like I'm suppose to reach a misery quota in order to be c… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/20 02:02 AM |
| 18 | With courts becoming increasingly Misandric, more men will opt out of marriage. What do you think a marriageless society will look like?I agree about younger folks seeing how hopeless the world is. My younger brother doesn't really see a point in marriage because it just seems to breed misery. I don't express any of my views, and it is interesting that he came to a similar conclusion. I don't think he has been burned by women I think he just straight up doesn't care about dating. I think many younger women have a huge chip on their shoulder because they've been fed a victim-narrative since day one. These chicks are so paranoid a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/20 12:18 AM |
| 3 | Try going to a bar alone, it's greatI'm having flashbacks to when I had to plan a trip with a gf that was a picky eater. Everything became a obstacle with her. I swear that chick loved the idea of traveling but didn't actually enjoy it. Yeah, I imagine travelling alone would be ideal. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/20 12:01 AM |
| 55 | With courts becoming increasingly Misandric, more men will opt out of marriage. What do you think a marriageless society will look like?I think common law marriage may become more ambiguous and more enforced. I think that child support may become more ambiguous and more enforced. BUT a big part of me feels like this won't happen because men overall will have less taxable income. Women are graduating college more and should start pulling their weight in taxes proportionally. If a bachelor tax comes out I will be leaving this country. And I think it's stupid to try to have a bachelor tax because those are the most mobile people on… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/07/20 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Fellas, we have an opportunity with this sub. Let's seize it.It gets extra retarded too when not being a sociopath is seen as beta behavior. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/07/20 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Fellas, we have an opportunity with this sub. Let's seize it.I get what you're saying but that's just opening up this sub to be exactly like the original mgtow sub. Which is just counterproductive. Maybe have a rule where you get one sentence to talk about women and that's it. Example: "I fell into a lot of debt trying to keep my ex happy. I just don't want to jump back on that hedonic treadmill. Now I've paid off half the debt and getting my life back together" We should be building men up, not breaking women down. This sub should be about self-actualiza… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/07/20 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Pretty new to MGTOW, but have found a lot of anti-liberal contentI'm a feminist in that 1) I don't want women to be treated as property and 2) have the ability to create wealth and 3) vote. Oh wait we got there in like 1920. When you really think about how great we have it now, some chick complaining about microaggression is just trivial. Can you imagine a modern feminist complaining to a 1915 suffragette? She would probably laugh in her face. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/20 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Pretty new to MGTOW, but have found a lot of anti-liberal contentI think if mgtow was to align with any political ideology it would be libertarian. Choosing not to marry and have kids is very anti-conservative. Many mgtows have a distrust in the institutions that are closely tethered to government. School. Military. Family law. Tax-system. Even restrictions for small businesses. (Try building an apartment complex in southern California). Could all fail a man within a lifetime. So they see government intervention as usually unnecessary at best and retarding at… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/20 01:58 PM |
| 14 | Fellas, we have an opportunity with this sub. Let's seize it.I can't wait to show-off some big financial plans in about 2 years. I literally can't talk about it in real life or people get jealous or start asking for money. I want to show dudes here that CoastFIRE is very possible. And I don't even make that much! 24 months of aggressive saving and I can work 20hr weeks for the rest of my life at a low stress job. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/20 01:33 PM |
| 1 | I'm surrounded by an echo chamber of anti-MGTOW viewpoints. That's fine, since I love seeing two sides to every POV, but I feel like I'm losing perspective of the other side. Would you guys mind linking or sharing images, articles, or videos of someone regretting going the traditional path?I genuinely hope that society takes a step back and realizes that you don't need to fuck someone in order to feel connected to them. Perhaps that's the lowest form of connecting with someone. One of my older patients was the funniest guy I've ever met. The dude understood me and I understood him. Like a twin brother that aged too fast. It seems as you get older you "get" people less but not him. I genuinely try to find that same spark in others, and sometimes it falls flat but I've learned to ap… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/20 09:08 PM |
| 3 | I'm surrounded by an echo chamber of anti-MGTOW viewpoints. That's fine, since I love seeing two sides to every POV, but I feel like I'm losing perspective of the other side. Would you guys mind linking or sharing images, articles, or videos of someone regretting going the traditional path?And to be honest, these guys who can not exist without marriage should take on that risk. Because they are happier taking on that risk than not. This is why I don't try to convert anyone. Only they can make that call. Some guys out there will accept mgtow but be completely miserable, they will not progress, and this isn't a failing on them but a lack of understanding about what they truly want. I have a theory that most incels will eventually be married, only a romantic would care that much abou… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/20 04:37 PM |
| 20 | I'm surrounded by an echo chamber of anti-MGTOW viewpoints. That's fine, since I love seeing two sides to every POV, but I feel like I'm losing perspective of the other side. Would you guys mind linking or sharing images, articles, or videos of someone regretting going the traditional path?I think a lot of mgtow philosophy is about increasing personal freedom. This can be applied to all facets of life. However, mgtow has a slippery slope of existential dread. Why marry if the divorce rate is high? Why go to school if you'll likely drown in debt? Why work a 9-5 when it's likely you'll hate it? It's hard to take the mgtow philosophy and not see the meaningless in most endeavors. Many men who find mgtow may give themselves permission to fall into apathy. This is a critical point, to … | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/20 12:45 PM |
| 3 | Can the married/divorced men in here share all the wisdom you know?That sounds like a nightmare. I can't stand people that "keep score" Like you will have to keep score or always be wrong. I don't want to use brain power remembering when she ate the last ice cream sandwich. Then use that as ammunition. I think this is sport for some people, but I find it exhausting. I have family members who pull this crap and I just refuse receiving favors. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/20 01:19 PM |
| 21 | Audi TT paid for by not wasting money on thots, GYOWIt adds up. First date. Second date. Now you're dating. How does she know y'all are serious? How do I prove I care? You can hug and kiss so much. Wow that movie looks good. I had a bad day (I know she likes ice cream). The burden of performance has always been on men. If a girl goes dutch after fucking then yeah you are equals but that doesn't really happen. Men and women (within the context of dating) are not equals. Get that through your thick skull and maybe we can have an honest conversation… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/20 01:55 AM |
| 1 | The benefits of the beta MGTOWI don't think about it too much but I probably do fit closer to the beta side both personality and physically. And I like who I am. I guess I only have one alpha move and that's walking away, I don't negotiate/argue/explain with a girl or boss. I leave, because I'm not a doormat. And I know what a doormat looks like because I was one for years. If I play my cards right, I can retire by 35. Edit: being alpha or beta has no significance when you're going your own way. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/07/20 12:47 PM |
| 2 | You don't need to do great things to become your own hero. Simple daily good habits every day compounded over long periods of time is the key to success. Be your own hero.Fuck I'm an alcoholic lol | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/07/20 02:27 AM |
| 3 | You don't need to do great things to become your own hero. Simple daily good habits every day compounded over long periods of time is the key to success. Be your own hero.I agree. I personally like it when people remember something I've said. So I try to do the same. "How is your spice garden doing?" There's too many people that mindlessly hear what a person says, if you listen you can tell that person is excited about whatever. And that shit is nice. My dad told me he doesn't really care what most people are doing but he would get jazzed up if someone else was excited. "Fuck yeah open a savings account!" "Salsa dancing sounds like a blast" "Dude I will see that … | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/07/20 02:26 AM |
| 3 | Getting paid $100/hr to play with stickersBecause it is healthcare related, that could mean a patient is not getting what they need within a timely manner. Although you're right that I could walk away, I strongly believe patients should get the best. They are paying out the ass! I've seen my father and grandmother suffer unnecessarily because of "processing time" or whatever bullshit reason. Some things in healthcare are unavoidable, some things are the direct result of incompetent providers, ...and some systems are the most efficient w… | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/07/20 02:07 AM |
| 3 | Getting paid $100/hr to play with stickersThat's the best way to look at it. I guess, I thought I had gotten to a job where I was "above this kind of work" But I was wrong. I'm starting to see other high paid people doing tasks that a monkey could do. There's probably people out there making 100k doing repetitive simple tasks. I guess I thought a higher pay would demand more thinking but not really. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/20 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Confidence is a huge part of going your own way. Why now are we seeing a rise in fashionable introversion? Here’s why it’s not good.I don't like the lable introvert/extrovert because neither really describes me well l, same for most people. From what I've experienced anyone who describes themselves as an extrovert usually just talks loudly about themselves and interrupts people "omg no filter!" And people who told me they are introverts are usually so insecure that they don't put any effort into conversations. "I'm fluent in sarcasm" Both full-blown introverts and extroverts are annoying in their own ways. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/07/20 02:20 PM |
| 2 | Question on conscious ignoranceFeminist presents legislation Biden: "Ok but lemme smell your hair first" Feminist presents armpit | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/20 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Question on conscious ignoranceWell I mean, go out and vote. But as for president, I don't think yours or my individual opinion really effects the outcome of a presidential election. I live in a southern state, and Trump is going to win (not that I'd vote for Biden). I'm just saying I have absolutely no control over who is my president unless I magically acquire 50 million dollars. I think voting for local sherrifs and judges count way more. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/20 01:10 AM |
| 3 | Disappointed in relationshipsHonestly I feel like being fwb is actual equality. Like actually a friend you can fuck. I know the pitfalls but muh. Being able to walk away with no consequences is real trust. I feel like women would be happier if they reeled back this collosal expectation they have of men. Unless you're dead set on kids, what the fuck does it even mean to be in a relationship? I've known my best friend since kindergarten, I'd give him my kidney, and I don't ask that dude half the stupid shit women want to do. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/20 01:00 AM |
| 3 | Disappointed in relationshipsI like your thinking. And there's the very subtle progression towards what you want to do (which I hope she wants to do as well: fuck and hangout) to absolute nonsense. I've had a girl be ecstatic that I bought her ice cream (a trivial amount of money). The fact that she was happy about getting ice cream made me happy, I don't expect anything (really!) she told me she had a bad day and I got ice cream because she told me she likes that kind of ice cream. But the same week ask me to go on a trip … | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/07/20 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Hello everyone( can someone explain to me all the pills?)I think most mgtows fit into purple. We understand how the rules work and we've decided (for various reasons) not to play. I would say that I was blackpilled but it was more about how I felt totally worthless and stuck working a dead end job (not really about lookism). Like society from all angles labelled me a loser, and I believed I was a loser. Early 20's for a broke short dude is fucking brutal on all fronts. I've literally had a coworker look me in the eye and say "You're nothing" Oddly eno… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/07/20 10:49 PM |
| 1 | I wanna ask you guys something about how do you if she’s a feminist or not?I would say the feminists that you're trying to avoid will let you know loudly. Those chicks are paranoid that every guy is a rapist so they are guarded BUT they also expect the fairytale of you chasing her too. You can imagine, these girls want their cake and eat it too... Frequently because they're also usually fat. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/07/20 09:46 PM |
| 1 | I wanna ask you guys something about how do you if she’s a feminist or not?It is funny that it's usually the really fat ones who are feminazis. I try my best to be aware of stereotypes but that one rings true almost Everytime. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/07/20 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Financial GoalsThanks I'll check them out. I have watched quite a few videos from Dave Ramsey and don't get me wrong his advice is solid but it sounds eerily similar to a sermon, which gets obnoxiously preachy. Most of his advice is: don't get debt, don't spend beyond your means. For dividend stocks: I will include them within my 401k but I don't personally under stand the appeal of dividend stocks unless I have a huge amount of money. If I take $1000 and buy 20 shares of a dividend stock that pays $1 annually… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/07/20 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Financial GoalsI can't remember where I read it but there was a guy that was depressed after reaching his life long goal and someone said, "You climbed mount Everest, did you expect a ladder at the top?" I felt lost too after paying off my student loan. Also I enjoy my job too but I know how quickly things can turn to shit. So I want to have enough side income to be financially independent. I also thought about getting a house but after house-sitting my dad's place for a month I realized how much work goes int… | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/07/20 12:59 PM |
| 5 | (My Mgtow ascension) From an Incel to feeling like I'm too good for TinderYou've actually worked on yourself and in this regard you are no longer an incel. Incels didn't go to the gym. Incels didn't do the trial and error that is required for modern flirting. Which is pretty much just salesmanship with an added "fuck you for trying" consolation prize. So yeah, when you take the smv out of the equation women really don't have jack shit. When you address an individual person by their value to you, 9 times out of 10 the woman falls short. Not that men are better, they ju… | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/07/20 12:09 AM |
| 1 | How many people do you personally know that have their shit together?Not many. You know in video games where you allocate points to different attributes? Like 5 points on speed, 3 points on strength etc... I see a lot of people with lopsided stats and they appear to have their shit together but they've got some obvious weak spots. Someone may be smart and hard-working but can't handle the stress. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/06/20 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Women only love what you can give them...Yeah but It's too academic sounding. This would be a word that describes her hypergamy but claiming it's something more profound. Pretty much lying to herself. It's like a guy falling in love with a stripper, in his head he probably loves the stripper but we know that's a laughable farce. I guess 'unrealized shallowness' is the closest I can think of. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/06/20 12:31 PM |
| 5 | How can I make people understand that I don’t want success and all that garbage?I suppose some work has more fulfillment than others but I'm under no illusion that work is work, no matter how you slice it. I say climb the ladder and if you want to go back you always can. Just leave on good terms. There's people making +100k and loving what they do, there's people making 15k and contemplating suicide (I should know, that was me 3 years ago). I'm guessing by "real work" you mean something physical. Keep in mind that your body will take that damage and it will accumulate over … | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/06/20 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Women only love what you can give them...I wonder what love looks like in a truly post-scarcity society. What happens when there is nothing to sacrifice? | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 11:47 PM |
| 3 | Now that I'm free: It's time for me to learn a new hobby.The beginning of learning guitar is the hardest. It sucks when you put your finger in the right spot and death grip the neck to only pluck out fart-sounding notes. I always recommend nylon because it's easier on the fingers. Don't let your ego get the best of you. Honestly, learning the Mario Bros theme song is an attainable 3 month goal. You probably know exactly what it sounds like and it will help you coordinate your fingers better. I would just mindlessly practice while watching tv. Currentl… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 10:49 PM |
| 4 | Women only love what you can give them...We really need to come up with a better word that describes female attraction that isn't love. Like I lust after curvey brunettes, that doesn't mean I love them. Women may lust after Mr. Social Status and call it love but it's not (similar to nice guys who claim to "love" but are only lusting). I think the lack of vocabulary is making us myopic. Love is an emotion, it comes and goes. There's actions you can take to get more out of it but that's about it. The biggest disservice women ever did is … | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 10:30 PM |
| 2 | How do I get my shit together?My good habits actually came out of sheer boredom. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 08:51 PM |
| 2 | How do I get my shit together?I'd like to add that if you're looking to stop/start habits then do only one at a time. It took me 3 months to stop craving alcohol. Then it took me 3 months to give up porn. Then it took me 3 months to enjoy going to the gym. There's no way I could kick alcohol and porn while going to the gym. We have finite willpower, so I say pick an important one and do that for 1-3 months. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 10:30 AM |
| 2 | I missed a job opportunity because a recruiter was a lesbianFrom what I've seen, it's other women that really dislike working under a female boss. As long as the boss is straight-forward and gives me a good amount of autonomy, I'm good to go. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 10:24 AM |
| 9 | Interesting article about the end state for hypergamyY'know one thing that gets overlooked a lot about female infancide is that it's usually the grand mother who is killing her grand daughter. The grandmother acts as the midwife sometimes and legit suffocates the baby after birth. The reason being that the grandmother wants to be supported by a grandson (who she believes will make more money). The grandmother is actively choosing which grandchild will provide her with the most resources (sounds familiar?). But it's much easier to just say patriarc… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 03:42 AM |
| 16 | Interesting article about the end state for hypergamyI imagine for every one incel, there's like 10 guys who don't really care. Like, if you can drink cheap beer, play video games, and pay the rent you're living a cushy life. That's not the life I would want but it sounds pretty good. Deliver pizzas for a living, bring one home, take a fat bong rip and play skyrim, then drift off to sleep after wacking it to some HD porn. There's worse ways to spend a life. r/mgtow2 leans more towards self-improvement, which I endorse, but all things considered, l… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 03:25 AM |
| 1 | What are the good things about a relationship you can miss out on?Perhaps, mentally healthy individuals are more likely to attract a partner. Having a partner may not be the cause for mental wellness. You can take this same kind of reasoning to overall health and financial stability. Was the man healthy and financially stable prior to marriage? Perhaps that is what made him an attractive suitor. So these benefits you claim marriage has caused may in fact be the cause of the marriage in the first place. Who wouldn't want a financially/mentally stable partner? | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/06/20 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Why do you guys stay away from relationshipsObesity plays a huge role in this dating wasteland. There was an article talking about men not being "economically attractive" which is a decent point, you can't support a family on 15/hr. But no one talks about how a lot of women are obese, not overweight, not "cute and chubby (my type)", no they're fat as hell. I mean I'm 5'7" 155 lbs and there's chicks everywhere that are 5'4" 185 lbs. I find it hard to be attracted to a girl who outweighs me by 30 lbs. Likewise, girls don't want to date guys… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/06/20 12:48 PM |
| 1 | If we're truly going to our way, this sub would be empty.I'd say that for a lot of guys, once they give up on the fairytale that is modern dating they need to dig deep and find something else. That something else takes introspection. I'm mostly here to spitball ideas about beating the game of life now. Because it seems that conventional wisdom has failed me, discussing ideas here can give me a different perspective. Side-steping relationships was just the beginning. Now what do I do with all this time and money? It's foolish to hold on to hate. I don'… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/06/20 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Why do you guys stay away from relationshipsHad two relationships. By the 2nd one I realized that the amount of effort to start and maintain a relationship is not worth what I get out of it. I've never really dated a woman and said "she makes my life better" I've had more meaningful connections with coworkers than the few women I've slept with. Oftentimes women seem to be a drain on my time, money, and sanity. So why bother? Let someone else entertain her, | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/06/20 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Dude your all a bunch of losers who are ugly bald and definitely old and can’t get laid so you just hate women. And good for the women bc most of u are just complete losers, it gives me joy to see social rejects lol.Yep you figured us out. On your way out please stop by our gift shop to collect your prize! | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/06/20 08:21 PM |
| 17 | Can you live your life happy as a celibate man?I don't have a small penis but I am fairly short. I feel like penis size and height are culturally tethered to masculinity. Where things get obnoxious is that anytime a short guy vents about his experiences they are invalidated. This is why you gotta give up any 'woe is me' bullshit, nobody cares, even if you're right. Nobody really cares For lack of a better term, people commenting on height or penis size is a gigantic shit test. Does penis size or height matter? Dude probably, but you should d… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/06/20 03:17 AM |
| 1 | is christianity bluepilled & cucked religion? but the fact is this, male is disposable sex.I agree. But I've grown to realize that people need to have something bigger than themselves to believe in, whether it's true or not, doesn't matter. We're passed the point of actual divinity (I think) ever being popular again, so that leaves socioeconomic institutions to guide us. Although mgtow talks about the innate trends of women screwing things up, I believe things got kicked into high gear when capitalism started to fail so many. How many guys who read r/mgtow probably have a college degr… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/06/20 02:54 AM |
| 1 | is christianity bluepilled & cucked religion? but the fact is this, male is disposable sex.I like that term too. It's not really about Christianity, it's about getting butts in pews. Churchianity was against homosexuals until attendance went down. Churchianity is a good umbrella term for Christianity that has to market themselves competitively. Anyone else live in the south where there's a church every 5 miles? | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/06/20 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Where are woman learning to be this way?I think from the get-go girls are raised to fear men and distrust boys. Boys on the other hand are raised to obey women and trust girls. So it's jarring to be treated like crap by women when society has crammed 'women are wonderful' narrative down your throat. Also women don't feel bad about treating guys like crap because they feel like men are out to get them. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/06/20 10:30 AM |
| 1 | I am too broken to love any other person, I can only love myself with the broken pieces of my heart. I don't have space for anyone else.Meh, I might be one of the few guys here that wasn't actually burned by women. They just literally aren't worth the trouble. I prioritize my own freedom. Some people need someone next to them, not me. Many women demand so much time and attention and I can't provide that without going crazy with boredom. Maybe I wasn't built for relationships, I still very much love women but I understand that I can't give them what they need which is pretty much everything. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/06/20 01:06 AM |
| 1 | So I visited the motorcycle dealership todaySomething that's scared me away from marriage is the realization that she is under no obligation to keep you happy. In relationships it's rarely reciprocal, and when it is, it's very brief. You as the man must invest more, and that's the game baby. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/06/20 10:11 AM |
| 1 | I'm not responsible for my shitty loser brotherI have 5 other brothers besides him. Also I don't ever see him doing that. Even if he did give me a kidney, he would Lord that over me until the end of time. I can keep him in my life, I'm just sure, I'm gonna be labelled an asshole for not tolerating him. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/06/20 12:44 PM |
| 3 | I'm not responsible for my shitty loser brotherI think I've been stuck in 'little brother' mode and he treats me like we're still 12 and 15 years old. He thinks he can walk all over me. You're right I need to communicate as clearly and as calmly as I can that he's attitude doesn't fly. I can already hear the gaslighting starting "What's your deal bro? You're being oversensitive." | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/06/20 10:32 AM |
| 1 | Redpills in the working world?Burn out is real. Once I got into that nice job I still wanted to keep going. Not really motivated by money, but I got to where I liked the challenge again. I'll probably burn out in a few years and I can always go back to my menial safe job. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/06/20 05:25 PM |
| 2 | why are male childhood sex abuse victims BOOTED out of the dating market?In your tribe example there should be a point where losing too many men would mean the tribe would be easily conquered. Men are an asset too, it's just that women are the way more important asset. Tbh it takes less men to accomplish the same service to the tribe. Because technology. I wouldn't be surprised in 50 years if only 20% of the population contributes toward society. I think being decoupling work and self-worth will be the biggest achievement of the human race. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/06/20 01:39 AM |
| 7 | why are male childhood sex abuse victims BOOTED out of the dating market?Everything that happens to a male is his fault. Men have hyperagency while women have hypoagency within what leinancy societal will say for personal responsibility. Got raped? Dude wtf don't tell me that are you gay? Lose job? Dude you fucked up. Girl not interested? That's on you bud, lift more, more confident! Feeling depressed? Get over it. Alcohol problem? You're weak. Everything good or bad is the direct result of a man's actions. When a man takes in full autonomy that his society has thrus… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/06/20 10:38 PM |
| 3 | Doing the opposite of societies norms lead to my current position in life.I'm your age and in a similar situation financially. I'm not opposed to having someone in my life but almost everytime she is a net negative both financially and emotionally from start to finish. I have never been in a relationship and thought, "This woman makes my life better" | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/06/20 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Redpills in the working world?Agree-amplify is obnoxious but I've used it to shut people up. It makes you look confident. Negging in some ways works well if you actually know what that person is insecure about. But I haven't put much thought into it. I will say that in my first job anytime someone made fun of my height it was soon after I did good work. It's like they had to re-establish the pecking order. Now anytime i'm made fun of a work (which rarely happens now) I take it as a compliment because I know this person (usua… | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/06/20 12:47 PM |
| 23 | Remember you could ruin your reputation or you lose your job because you say something unopopular, so keep your beliefs to yourself.Agreed. I mostly try to be a happy, watered-down version of myself at work. Little to no talk about politics, religion, or sex. Talking about mgtow concepts would be career suicide. And I've abandoned social media tethered to my actually name. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/06/20 06:26 AM |
| 1 | women are so afraid of being considered whores that they'd literally be whores to avoid being known as suchBecause your post seems more r/mgtow than r/mgtow2 And that kind of content usually screams "I'm not over my redpill rage yet" | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/06/20 06:06 AM |
| 6 | women are so afraid of being considered whores that they'd literally be whores to avoid being known as suchYou're putting way too much thought into something that is not improving your life. Trust me when I say that you need to let go of anger and focus on what makes you feel fulfilled. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/06/20 05:40 AM |
| 1 | glad that i'm single.Yeah, I had some beers and pizza today to celebrate the weekend and achieving my savings goal. Then took a nap. No doubt I would have to "explain" myself to a partner. There's no way I could reach that savings rate with a partner. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/06/20 04:32 AM |
| 1 | The future of 30 something single childless womenI don't understand what you're saying. Also I take evolutionary psychology with a huge grain of salt. It's way more likely women were raped than having any actual choice whatsoever. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/06/20 04:45 PM |
| 2 | The future of 30 something single childless womenI think I like friendships way more because the expectations are so low. I genuinely enjoy the dynamic of friendship better. I pride myself on forming great friendships. You would think that skill would transfer over to romantic bonding but I was dead wrong about that. I slowly started to realize that a romantic relationship is not just a friend you might have sex with. It's a lopsided transaction of money and attention. I keep hearing about men and women are equals, and I believe that, but with… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/06/20 10:21 AM |
| 18 | The future of 30 something single childless womenI'm curious to see how this will pan out in 25-40 years. Women are getting way more degrees and should be making more money. It would be hilarious having a socialist country where women pay super high taxes, while a bunch of neckbeards rake in unemployment benefits just scratch their balls all day. Can you imagine? Yes ladies, y'all are on top now, but it's so cruel to deprive this neckbeard his Doritos. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/06/20 03:42 AM |
| 19 | The future of 30 something single childless womenI'm probably gonna get a lot of flak for this opinion but I do think women are more likely to be ok with being romantically alone. I don't think there's gonna be a big epiphany at 30 for them, they are single because they want to be. The revenge porn narrative is just a waste of time thinking about. I really do think that a considerable number of women have a low enough libido that their sex drive is an afterthought once a week. Besides the lack of testosterone (the main sex drive hormone) women… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/06/20 03:29 AM |
| 2 | I am much more antiwork than I am antirelationshipsIsn't there something to that? Like idk where I heard it from but if you promote someone who is only half-way competent then his subordinates will feel more uh... responsible? | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/05/20 07:22 PM |
| 6 | Can we talk about toxic productivity?Yes I do have to beat myself up in order to get things done. And I've examined my goals and think they are worth pursuing despite my lack of "true" motivation. I lack whatever innate motivation people here seem to talk about. I would probably eat junk food and drink beer all day, but I've done that before too and wasn't really fulfilled either. So Idk. Maybe I'm overanalyzing | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/05/20 10:39 AM |
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