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Because I'm a man and can park.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:20 PM
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No, all men pay taxes and almost all men do physical labour and/or protective work at some point in their lives. Would you be safer or unsafer without a house to live in? Without roads, cars, hospitals, schools, infrastructure? > From what I looked up it was 66% in 2016 Source required. Women are only catching up to men due to open discrimination against men, in the form of "diversity" quotas etc. > Besides 40% of income tax is paid by the top 1% earners which is mostly men, but 99% of men aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:33 PM
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> Based on what? Based on reported rates. And factoring in that women massively over-report victimhood and men massively under-report victimhood. Why do lesbian relationships have the highest reported rates of "domestic violence" and gay male relationships have the lowest? Partly because of this fact. Why do men kill and attack far more men than women, despite spending far more time with women? There are lots of ways to spin data. Most men's violence is directed at men, most women's violence is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:26 PM
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lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:19 PM
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They are men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:04 PM
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Toxic femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:03 PM
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They're just women who want to be open about their duel mating strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:02 PM
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Reddit is not representative of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:01 PM
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No they're not. Women assault men at least as much as men assault women. Women also do other things such as false allegations, baby-trapping, paternity fraud-- all of which they do with near complete impunity. Men also do all of the protecting of both genders. They build and man the prisons, build and maintain all infrastructure, pay 80% of taxes etc etc etc. Men protect women, women don't protect men. You have to analyse the whole pie. Women also commit most child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:05 PM
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> generally, more males commit violent and violative assaults against females than females commit violent and violative assaults against males. This isn't true. Men just do more damage, as they're physically stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:13 PM
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You're assuming I'm saying something you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:47 PM
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All of it. That's the rationale of women who think they should be paid to go on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:44 PM
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If the guy is turn up in an expensive car, does the woman have to pay for his car insurance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:40 PM
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No, women don't pay taxes, as a demographic. They're a huge net tax burden. Taxes are stealing money from men to give to women. As are all financial redistributive policies-- child support, marriage/divorce, alimony, welfare etc. You're living in a gynocentric system under which women have autonomy over their value and bodies, and men don't. That's why you can pretend you're "autonomous", while having easy access to everything you want and need from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:39 PM
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This is a good way to get a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:50 PM
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They're all around you. Paying taxes, building everything, maintaining everything, paying for and protecting everything and everyone. Almost everything you own was built by men, and paid for by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:44 PM
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Weird that you're dreaming about knitting your children's clothes then. I'm also a stacy well high tier becky/stacylite so a chad hardly hypergamy. Yes it is, because "staceylite"'s are ten a penny. Chads are rare. And in 2-3 years, when you exit your prime, you'll be replaced by a million other "staceylites", while Chad will still be Chad. You seem very looks-obsessed. But looks don't last. In 10 years, looks won't be a major concern for you. Then you'll have another 45 years where they'll hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:53 PM
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Most men were only able to vote before women by a few decades, and they had to be conscripted and sent to die in wars in exchange. Women got given the vote with no such obligation. Women have never been oppressed. They've been infantilised. Which is completely different. It's not oppression, it's infantilism and utilitarianism. Women were denied "rights" and freedoms, but given protections and privileges (as children are). Society also needed them to have children, which meant it didn't make sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:46 PM
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There's no such thing as an autonomous woman. Women rely on men for just about everything. An "autonomous" woman exists because men are enslaved to provide stuff for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:43 PM
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And that's why you're single and alone as your youth is expiring. And why you will likely end up married to your cats or a single Mum caring for an Autistic child.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:11 PM
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No, they don't. It's at least heavily subsidised by taxes. As everything in modern society is. Certainly in my country. Who cares what you desire? It's about what is good for society. And it isn't about "not all", it's about the majority and what is the norm. How can a society continue to function if women aren't having replacement level children (ie at least 2 each)? I've asked this to feminists but never got an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:07 PM
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chad chaser
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:51 PM
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That proves the opposite of what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:50 PM
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The choice to have no obligations to society or to men, and to have men enslaved to provide these choices to you, is feminism. > What do u even mean by this? I mean taxes. Which funds girls going to university. Overwhelmingly men's taxes. Men don't get the choice to not have their money stolen and spent on women. Again, this is feminism. Women get "choices", men get obligations. > I thought men are providers and as providers they should provide an education for their kids. The comedy of you expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:37 PM
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"Female education" = feminism. Men being forced to pay for women to go to university, so they can go on to do useless jobs, suppress wages, provide corporate slaves instead of having babies and families.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:33 PM
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It's not that low. And, given that significantly more girls go to university than boys and there are 300-400k abortions each year, very. Women are killing almost as many babies as there are being born in Thailand. By comparison, in the UK, there are about 270k abortions to 600-700k births per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:30 PM
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But more men will, as they'll be exploited to provide those women with less horrible lives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:57 PM
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Low birth rate isn't associated with education, it's associated with feminism. Also, poverty is relative. Poorer countries aren't going to vanish. The average salary in Thailand is about $450/month. For young women it's lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:52 PM
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T + A
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:30 PM
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That's women's fault and responsibility. They don't tell a man what they want to do to get them off. Many women can't even make themselves cum, so man have no hope. I listed things that aren't needs, that people can live without (like sex), but are provided anyway (mainly provided by men to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:00 PM
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False allegations aren't a small minority at all. Women lie all the time. And do so with impunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:58 PM
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Did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:33 AM
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Women get sex of any type they want, any time they want. People can live without houses, they did for millennia. They can live without hospitals, schools, therapy, police, military, roads, cars, electricity-- everything that men provide to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:33 AM
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Some make guys pay and women not, as well. So men are paying to be cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:22 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/sexless-america-young-adults-are-having-less-sex#:\~:text=Sexlessness%20in%20the%20last%20year,relationship%20at%20a%20given%20time. nope
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:50 PM
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I don't follow the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:48 PM
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Were you looking in a mirror when you typed this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:00 PM
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Dating events are interesting. As far as I can see, they're basically the only "dating" place where women far outnumber men, and men just don't want to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:35 PM
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The poll is of people who are, or have been married, only. You seem to be the one who can't comprehend the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:27 PM
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Men cheat less than they used to. And, no, they don't cheat more. They self-report cheating more (big distinction, as I've said). And that's when you define cheating as having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:30 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:21 PM
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And men cheat less. So how was I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:05 AM
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I think you don't get it. Now apply your logic to women's rate declining with age post-60. That means women cheat today, and the last few decades, far more than they did in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:41 PM
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I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:14 PM
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Because you said you didn't depend on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:15 PM
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Yes, which confirms what I originally said. Men today cheat less than men used to cheat, and women today cheat more than women used to cheat (particularly women used to cheat long ago). I did look it up, it didn't provide the specific questions asked etc and I got bored. Just as I've got bored talking to low IQ you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:14 PM
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Nope. It's men who do all the hard work farming, transporting and selling food. And men are the ones who build and fund hospitals, and all of modern medicine. But I'm not sure why you're angrily agreeing with me. No man disputes women's value is having and raising children. I just said this lol. It's feminists who deny this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:10 PM
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Yes, just like you feed your baby regardless of how you feel, feed yourself regardless of you feel, do a million things regardless of how you feel. That's called being an adult and having obligations. Yes, men objectively and obviously do much more important work. Men build, maintain and pay for everything. They protect everything and everyone. Men built everything you own. There's barely a single job women do that men couldn't do at least equally well. Women's innate and unique value is having …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:50 PM
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How can it be for that specific year when it asks people who have been married before? Are you saying 26% of married men cheated in that specific year? There aren't specifics in the graph. And tbh, I don't know or care. I tried Googling the specifics but got bored. Such polls are bollocks anyway. Women lie much more than men. About everything. That's why "domestic violence" reported rates are so high for women (and why lesbian relationships have the highest rates of reported DV), why women go to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:32 PM
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I don't care about your unsourced stats, I provided the actual stats. Which showed that men work 25-33% more hours. I don't care about Yankland, I don't live there. What does population size have to do with anything? Do you think 43 million people is not a sufficient sample size? (Spoiler: the stats will be similar in your disastrous country).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:16 PM
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/articles/averagehoursworkedandeconomicgrowth/2024-01-22 https://www.statista.com/statistics/280749/weekly-hours-of-work-in-the-uk-by-gender/?srsltid=AfmBOoofzN9paaXHnFJqqhmTS1cS-CihD1Z3FSVzJ7RiqT6GrTD9rzIf 25-33% more hours, doing much harder and more important work Who gives a fuck what single women *report* doing? I don't understand why the concept of women making their man happy is offensive to you. But it's symptomatic of the modern woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:34 PM
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Everything related to the body has to do with the diet. Likewise Sun exposure (and Vitamin D synthesis). It sounds like you don't understand nutrition, among many, many things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:28 PM
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Yes, and gaining weight stretches the skin. Yes, I am telling you that. His diet is probably poison. A whole food diet and you will get few/minimal stretch marks. I know all about stretch marks, personally. There is nothing you can teach me, believe me. That's why I know how to treat them. Derma needling, with Vitamin A & C applied, healthy diet, Sun and lots of water. You're the one who brought up stretch marks, I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:55 PM
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Women work much less than men and do much easier and less valuable work, and men pay about 80% of taxes. There's no real incentive to work more when you have to pay child support, you can argue there's an incentive to work less. At least in my country. Weirdly, men don't feel a moral obligation to forcibly hand over money to their ex's and/or women who baby-trapped them, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:53 PM
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You depend on men for absolutely everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:37 PM
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You generally get stretch marks from being unhealthy. And you don't need surgery to fix them, derma needling fixes them. But that requires effort women aren't inclined to put in. But I don't know what any of this has to do with women doing their best to stay in shape and attractive. Nobody has said they will remain perfect forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:29 AM
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Not really, he could NEETmaxx or just work for subsistence level income. Men with families to provide for work much more, and it's much more of an obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:27 AM
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Yes. The man goes to work regardless of how he's feeling. It's an obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:44 AM
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I'm not the one who mentioned hoops. Women hook up with attractive men, generally. Average and unattractive men don't get hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:43 AM
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I don't want anything, I certainly don't want to get married. But any man who does want that can simply go abroad and find it quite easily. Yes, women can control their sagging stomach and stretch marks-- they can not become obese when they get pregnant. It's perfectly possible to maintain a healthy body weight through pregnancy. Lots of women do. It's not perfectly possible to reconfigure your genes and eliminate male pattern baldness. A hair transplant is surgery. I'm not sure why you're inten…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:42 AM
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Are you pretending to be this stupid or is it genuine? A 70 year old woman was born in the mid-50s. She lived most of her prime fucking years during the 70s, 80s and 90s. Consequently, the graph shows prevalence of cheating for different time periods. It shows women today cheat far more than they did in the past, while men cheat far less. It's amusing when people post data they don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:36 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:02 PM
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Balding isn't something a man can control. There's nothing wrong with watching porn. Why should he pay every bill? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:02 PM
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The age of people marks the time period. No, I didn't think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:00 PM
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Are you under the impression it's easy for men to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:09 PM
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Pardon?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:09 PM
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Stay thin and as attractive as you can and provide him with sex when he wants it, yes. Is that too much for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:09 PM
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Sounds like delf-defence to me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:50 PM
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There is someone for everyone if the system is working correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:49 PM
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Why would a man complain about that? He can opt out of a LTR anytime he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:18 PM
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If you're too much of a pussy to approach women, it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:53 PM
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Explain how I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:52 PM
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Only to a small extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:40 PM
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Women massively over-report victimhood and under-report perpetration. Women's not increasing with age doesn't even make sense. The older you get, the more years you've been no this Earth, the more time you've had to cheat. I know women's behaviour has changed with society, but come on. Also, you're aware this shows that women's cheating has increased massively and men's has decreased, right? lol. Younger men cheat much less than older men and younger women cheat much more than older women. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:40 PM
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No, just stay in shape and make the effort to be as attractive as you can be, and provide him with enthusiastic sex when he wants it. It isn't men divorcing women, it's women divorcing men. That sub appears to have approximately 4 users.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:28 PM
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Asking women out online is barely rejection, it's nothing. If you can't even handle online rejection, you're in trouble. But yes, modern dating is fucked. Also, women online don't "pursue" guys, the dynamics are largely the same. Aside from the fact that men can't approach 90% of women online because they can't match with them or get a DM accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:32 PM
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Men don't mind you ageing, so long as you age well and maintain all the other stuff. Men's sex drive diminishes with age, as does their appeal to younger women. Men aren't stupid. They just want to bond with a woman when they're young, and are happy to grow old together, generally. Yes, there may be the odd sexual temptation, because men have high sex drives. But few men will leave their wife and family for that sexual temptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:30 PM
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A real man doesn't use the phrase "real man". And nobody is "naturally stocky".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:27 PM
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Men don't need covert contracts, they have overt contracts: like marriage and child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:26 PM
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If "emotionally intelligent" women don't know that men will lie to get sex, then they shouldn't be allowed outdoors unassisted. Women know this, they just pretend not to. The evil patriarchy set up a system to deal with this. It was called "slut shaming". It dictated that women don't fuck guys on the first few dates and don't engage in casual sex. Feminists completely dismantled this system, to the extent you will almost never see it in any dating advice video, you will see the complete opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:31 AM
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Because men need sex, and there's only one place they can get it. Unlike everything women need and want from men-- all of which they can easily access elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:27 AM
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> Which men would still prefer to the current situation. Lol they wouldn't. It would mean even less women for most men. You would like women all approaching the hot guys and openly engaging in harems? It would be living hell. It would be the online world transposed into the real world. > Nope, again, her choice. Yeah, just like it's your choice to be a pussy afraid of approaching women. We all have choice. But we also have social norms and social consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:32 AM
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No it wouldn't at all. Unless she was attractive. Which, the odds are, she wouldn't be. Unless he was also attractive. In which case, he doesn't need women to approach him. You sound like a woman. Allergic to taking on responsibility. Do you want the choice of picking? Then assume the responsibility of approaching and being rejected. That's the deal. > Who is preventing them besides themselves? Who is preventing men approaching and not caring about rejection? It's just words. I thought men didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:30 AM
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Are you innumerate? 18 hours is 18 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:27 AM
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No, I wouldn't want the choice of only girls who approached me-- who will all likely be unattractive. I'd like the choice of any girl I want. What is "trying"? Man up and deal with a little rejection. I'm not including metoo and all the extreme shit men today have to deal with. But, in normal circumstances, rejection isn't a big deal. Men are always talking about accountability and taking responsibility, but they also say they don't want to take on the responsibility of approaching women, in exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:27 AM
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> Every single man would love to be approached by a woman But men wouldn't like it being the norm for women to approach men-- because they'd all approach the same small % of men they match with online. Which brings us back to my point. Choosing is power. > No she does not. Of course she does. And she has to wait for him to kiss her, to initiate sex with her, to turn their casual sex into a relationship, to ask her to marry him. No woman does all these things, the man does 90% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:19 PM
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Yes they do. There's still the social expectation that the man make the moves. And that isn't just the first move. It's every significant move throughout every stage of the relationship. You can't just pretend the conventions don't exist, because they've been relaxed somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:17 PM
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That's one of the most undesirable things a man can do. I've seen (ordinary) women asked if they want a man to ask if he can kiss her, and 90% said it was a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:52 PM
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I thought women were supposed to be "emotionally intelligent".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:50 PM
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There are lots of equivalencies. Baby-trapping, divorce rape, false allegations. The state, the police and other men are usually on the side of the woman, and she can use them to inflict violence on the man just as easily, if not more easily, than he can inflict it upon her. I'm pretty sure the evidence also says that women are at least as violent towards men as the inverse. Men are just capable of doing more harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:49 PM
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Now you know how men feel trying to date 80% of modern women. Who are Feminists liking man-hating Tiktoks and Instagrams all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:47 PM
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It's not social convention for women to approach. And they don't typically do it (overtly). And it hands a lot of power to the man. Women have the advantage for other reasons, but not because men are expected to approach. Would you rather be able to pick who you can approach or only pick from those who approach you? Put yourself in a woman's shoes (absent the other advantages they have, pretend there's some semblance of equity). You can approach the most beautiful women, exclusively. A woman has…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:59 PM
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No. No man should want to get married. You seem the "passionate" one, as you can't debate the topic without resorting to personal insults and insinuations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:56 PM
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You really need to look at it differently. You have the power. You get to pick which girls you choose to ask out. They don't get to pick which guys ask them out. The price for that is rejection, but if you keep it light and try to convey confidence, she will usually be somewhat polite and flattered-- or at least pretend to be. Then you just move onto the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:05 PM
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It's not a matter of emotion or logic, women get used for sex by men who don't deem them good enough for a relationship, men don't. Men don't really care about being seen as anything, they want sex. They have a very high sex drive. And they want enthusiastic sex. And to have as many sexual options as possible. Do you honestly believe women don't want to relationship guys they want to fuck? Women, typically, don't like hookups, and only settle for them because they can't relationship the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:01 PM
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Lol you're the one projecting here. What you're saying is true for women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:54 PM
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It isn't at all. For a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:54 PM
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This is how a woman thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:53 PM
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I can't see the first link
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:51 PM
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Yes, a wife is a sex worker. Just as a husband is a money slave. Just as your husband is expected to go to work, provide and protect, the wife is expected to provide him with sex. That's one of the main reasons a man gets married. Your advice is good, though, definitely don't get married if you want to continue having sex. Because you sign away any expectation of that happening when you get married. She is legally entitled to your money, you are legally entitled to nothing, after that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:35 AM
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I didn't say they were. Laying around holding a baby is not hard work. And most people, that is to say not degenerate women with intact families, have Grandparents to help out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:33 AM
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Sexlessness for men causes them to kill themselves and be divorce-raped, made homeless, debt slaves and have their children stolen from them. The standard guidance is something like 6 weeks to 2 months-- that's when a woman can have sex after pregnancy. And she can give blowjobs and handjobs long before that. Genuine question, do you want to raise children? Lol no. What's the relevance? I hate children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:29 AM
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https://www.nhs.uk/baby/caring-for-a-newborn/helping-your-baby-to-sleep/ Most newborn babies are asleep more than they are awake. Their total daily sleep varies, but can be around 18 hours They sleep constantly and wake up to eat and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:26 AM
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Get back to me when you have an argument which isn't hysterical female, anecdotal victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:25 AM
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Women are the ones making sex sound like the worst activity in the world. Men are the ones wanting to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:25 AM
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Women work much less than men, earn significantly less money and do significantly easier and less valuable jobs. What equivalent does a man have to pregnancy and childbirth that puts the same strain and causes the same changes to their bodies? About a million different jobs. Which, up until very recently, they had to work years later in than women (retirement age was higher for men), despite dying years earlier (which working such jobs is a major factor in). Men do almost all physical and danger…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:05 PM
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We're discussing gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:03 PM
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Maybe such cases indicate how important sex is to men. And a woman can give a man a handjob or blowjob if she can't have sex. It's not hard. I've had major surgery, if my girlfriend wanted me to tend to her needs while I was physically incapable of having sex, I happily would. We're talking about the OP. Which is very much most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:03 PM
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https://www.nhs.uk/baby/caring-for-a-newborn/helping-your-baby-to-sleep/ Most newborn babies are asleep more than they are awake. Their total daily sleep varies, but can be around 18 hours. Your anecdotal victimhood > medical consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:00 PM
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Yes, because the law is absolute. I don't care what you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:58 PM
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> If having a convo with (presumably, the love of your life, mother of your children, life partner) is simply her “yammering on” in your POV, and spending time together is “taking her on dates (that you don’t enjoy)” then why tf are you still pretending to be interested in women? If having sex with your husband is work and not something you want to enthusiastically and daily, why are you still pretending to be interested in men? None of your screeching victimhood vetoes your hypocrisy and double…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:58 PM
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> Plenty of women date and marry and are with men who don’t work… you like to cherry pick. Lol. The irony. I'm using data and talking about the majority, you're cherry-picking. > all genders. How many are there?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:55 PM
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The opt-outs are either use contraception or dont have sex. Oh, so abortion and the morning after pill should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:03 PM
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The kid needs money, the man needs sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:02 PM
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> If you can get sexual pleasure out of your wife suffering Nobody said that. Victimhood rejected. > Or are you also planning on taking care of her and everything postpartum so she can recover? Men are taking care of everything. They paid for her healthcare, built the house she's living in, build the hospital she stayed in, built the roads she drove to and fro on, supplied her with electricity, heating, food, entertainment, what more do you want men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:01 PM
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Yes, just like women want to enslave men's bodies for labour, protection and resources. The distinction is, the law and society enables the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:59 PM
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https://www.nhs.uk/baby/caring-for-a-newborn/helping-your-baby-to-sleep/ Most newborn babies are asleep more than they are awake. Their total daily sleep varies, but can be around 18 hours Why do you think experiencing sleep deprivation is a common complaint with babies? Because everything is a common complaint among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:58 PM
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Yes. I've lived in the same house as one. They sleep an incredible amount, which gets progressively less as they get older. https://www.nhs.uk/baby/caring-for-a-newborn/helping-your-baby-to-sleep/ Most newborn babies are asleep more than they are awake. Their total daily sleep varies, but can be around 18 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:56 PM
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No they don't, they sleep for 18 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:54 PM
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Legally? No, a man never wants a child. As he has no legal right to choose to have a child. AGAIN, you're strawmanning and it's inane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:53 PM
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I don't care. Again, nobody is talking about this. But, as usual, women have to redirect every conversation to the most extreme (and irrelevant) scenario to justify their victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:52 PM
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Men don't choose to have children, it's a woman makes on their behalf. Postpartum is incredibly hard on women. Oh boohoo. Sexlessness is incredibly hard on men. If you can’t wait until she recovers to be sexual That isn't what anyone's talking about. OP was about the months and years after giving birth. Not the immediate aftermath. Nobody is advising a man starts ploughing his wife the moment she's out of the hospital. And genuine question—how is your wife giving an unwilling handjob while miser…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:51 PM
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Yes, and Reddit is a feminist and feminised environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:44 PM
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Babies are disgusting. Of course male needs aren't important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:44 PM
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This is a false choice. The guy should quit his job, if the kid is the number one responsibility. No time for work. See how stupid you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:40 PM
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Nobody is talking about having sex immediately after birth. We're talking about for the months and years after birth. Sex is much more important to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:40 PM
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Women aren't homeless enough. But, thanks to the fact we live in a gynocentric society in which men are slaves, women are almost never homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:38 PM
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Men work far more than women. Men do almost all of the hard and essential jobs, they build everything, they maintain everything, they protect everything. They do all the outdoor jobs, all the unfavourable hours jobs, all the dirty, undesirable jobs. They also pay about 80% of taxes. And, in terms of marriage and relationships, men are legally bound to provide their money-- even long after the woman has divorced him. Men also provide protection, if any is needed. Men don't ask for much. > Also, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:37 PM
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Women don't work an nth as much as men. And men will put up with a woman not working. Women won't put up with a man not working. If a man doesn't work for 6 months because he doesn't feel like it, his wife will probably leave him. > You think the man is the only one with a job these days? With a meaningful job which actually contributes to society, yes. Men work something like 50% more hours than women. And do much harder jobs. Which also means far more of their taxes are stolen (and redistribut…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:32 PM
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That's very convenient for women, isn't it? The things they provide aren't duties, but the things men provide are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:25 PM
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I've known this for a long time, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:24 PM
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That's what they are, that's what "the Patriarchy" is. Men = patriarchs/Fathers, women = children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:24 PM
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It's how the law works, and biology works. Nobody expects a woman to be giving blowjobs in the delivery room. But they should be sexually active soon after the birth. Doctors recommend you can have sex 4-6 weeks after birth. And lots of women have sex during pregnancy. Just like they do everything else during pregnancy, such as working. Anyone with half a brain knows sex is important to men, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:42 PM
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> If their only doing 50% childcare, they can get an actual paying job Yeah, which they don't want to do, typically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:38 PM
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Because women are allergic to responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:34 PM
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Visit any relationship sub on this site. The stock response to any trivial thing is "leave him", so much so it's a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:34 PM
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Spend 4 seconds on Instagram, Tiktok, Snapchat or mainstream media. Or listen to any woman talking with her friends. She will be sharing intimate details of her relationship and about her man. And most will have a negative spin on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:31 AM
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No, they didn't. A man doesn't decide to have children, only a woman does. Men have no reproductive rights or choice. Her body, her choice, her responsibility. This applies to both the having of children and the consequences of having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:30 AM
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Yes, it's still your duty to provide sexual pleasure to your man. Just like it's still the man's duty to go to work and pay for shit. To protect you and provide for you, and help take care of the kid. Adults have responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:28 AM
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Lol, women absolutely don't want to do 50/50, because then they don't get paid. She broke up the family, he's to blame. Naturally. > but if you were already a shitty dad, being alone doesn’t make it any different Yes, it absolutely does. And all the data shows it does. A "shitty" Dad is better than no Dad. And, if he was a "shitty Dad", she shouldn't have picked him to have kids with. He didn't choose to have kids, she did. He didn't choose to divorce, she did. The truth is that women don't care…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:25 AM
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Paying is parenting. JFL @ how men's contributions are eradicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:23 AM
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That's her responsibility, not his.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:23 AM
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Other women are, typically. Online and their friends. They're demonising and patholagising men constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:21 AM
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Yes, because, believe it or not, his dick is also part of HIS body, and he has a very high sex drive. Sex is very important to men. Like a million things are important to women. It's not hard to give your man a handjob/blowjob every day, it takes 10 minutes. If you don't do it, you don't care about him and his needs. Babies sleep about 18 hours a day. They're nowhere near as time-consuming as women like to pretend. And men, typically, have to increase how much they work and make more money after…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:20 AM
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As I explained in my comment, a large percentage of this provision is enabled by women’s labour. Debatable, and "a large percentage" is not equal. Also, women have autonomy over their labour, men don't (again). Men don't have the choice to pay taxes. Women do have the choice to have kids, raise kids, live with a man, marry a man etc. Men are not responsible for random women’s children. Yes, they are, taxes. Women's children are subsidised by men's taxes. They are responsible for their own childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:59 AM
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It isn't a gotcha, it's analysing the whole pie. How can you analyse healthcare while ignoring how healthcare is provided and paid for? It doesn't drop out of the sky. It isn't some natural resource. Men provide it, primarily. And they sacrifice their bodies to do so. A couple doesn't have a child, a woman does. The man gets no say in the matter. I don't understand why your scenario presupposes that men are responsible for women's children (or health for that matter). Or that being a couple is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:23 PM
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There's no such thing as "sacrificing your career". Unless men also sacrifice their family time. Why are you retorting with cliche points which aren't relevant? This report focuses on women's health costs of having babies. Exclusively. And excludes men's health costs (of all kinds). Who is saving the family thousands of euros per month by not hiring a surrogate and a full time nany and cleaner? Lol, nobody is spending "thousands of Euros per month" on that. People who work and live alone do thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:23 AM
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They are stealing, by definition. "Taxes overall" are men's taxes. Men pay the vast majority of taxes. Men also build the hospitals, the Doctor's surgeries, pretty much all the medical equipment, the beds, and so on. They transport it all. They sacrifice their bodies doing all this. Why isn't this part of the equation incorporated into the analysis?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:45 PM
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Yes, men's health should be prioritised. If your intent is to close health gender "inequalities". Especially as men are the ones who are forced to fund and provide most of the labour for all this healthcare-- that inequality should be closed as well, and women should be expected to provide 50% of the resources and labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:43 PM
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> I would think it would be useful as a comparison between countries/cultures. It isn't. Unless you're comparing it to men's health outcomes in those countries/cultures. > that would be very provacative and useful information for an area that needs to be addressed, wouldn't it? No, because you'd just be measure to what extent women are advantaged and privileged. Given that women outlive men in every single country on Earth, and have much better health outcomes across the board, in every single c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:14 AM
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That's his point, they've chosen a statistic which only affects women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:13 AM
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Why should pregnancy mortality be reduced, when women outlive men by years? We should be focusing on reducing male mortality, as there's a huge inequality there which needs correcting. Also, whenever you say "better funding" and "investing more money", you mean funding by men and investing more of men's money. Why should more money be stolen from men to fund improvements in women's health when women outlive men by 4-10 years? Surely it should be the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:12 AM
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Pregnancy is a bigger risk for men, as women have post-conception birth control (the morning after pill and abortion), and more (and more reliable/easier) contraceptive options. Men die 4-10 years earlier than women in every single country on Earth. Is that not the most obvious, objective and glaring health disparity? A "labour market inequality" means men do most of the work, almost all of the hard, physical work and sacrifice their bodies at work much more than women. This is no more an "inequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:09 AM
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Pretty much all modern gender policies were made to discriminate against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:05 AM
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I know a gigachad with half a million Instagram followers who made an OF and made no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:04 AM
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And what % of that 1% are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:01 AM
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Cash in hand lolz
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:59 AM
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It takes maybe 90 minutes to wank off 8 guys. How is that harder than swiping food for 8 hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:35 AM
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The same is true using whores. Whores are criminals, immoral, mentally unstable and often drug addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:31 AM
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And women are pretty disgusted by men who do these jobs-- but are happy to benefit from them. They want their rubbish collected but won't date a bin man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:30 AM
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Men know "sex work" is unattractive, that's why they demonise it. It's women who try to convince us that it's not. Women's sexual power isn't about making money as a whore. > Having to sleep with somebody whom you're not attracted to is just fucking disgusting to many people, regardless of gender. Having to wage slave in a job you hate, for people you hate, and having 20% of your income stolen and handed to women is just fucking disgusting to many people, but it's normalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:29 AM
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What are you talking about? Men build all houses. Name something women want from men they can't easily access. I'm still waiting. Father is a proper noun. I'm sorry you can't speak English.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:24 AM
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You're not free to buy and sell sex, or barter for it. And men aren't free to choose when they become a Father. That's the point, male value is commodified, stolen, exploited and handed to women. Female value isn't, it's highly protected and men have to beg for it. Men are not "free" to build and sell. Taxes exist. A myriad of laws and regulations exist. Social housing and everything I detailed above exists. And that's before you get to all the ingrained, systemic discrimination against men in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:59 AM
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I agree. It's great to see that Gen Z males are raising their standards and communicating that they hate Feminism and being persecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:44 AM
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Women are inherently patriarchal. Not just in that they inherently want and need men to provide most things for them, but in that they hate individual freedom and love repressive systems with lots of rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:44 AM
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Leads = pays lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:38 AM
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> This was a big problem for him, but not for me. (Well, him putting me down and trying to get me to give him access to my stock options was a problem for me.) Lol. So him wanting access to your money was a problem for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:37 AM
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Yes, you have. Men built your house, men built every house. And every road. And every hospital. And every school. And every prison. And you were given access to all of them. All were built with men's bodies. Have you heard of social housing? Women's shelters? You purchased homes because you were able to, because society enslaves men to build houses, subsidises their production and sale (with money stolen from men, aka taxes). Because society gives you the right to men's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:34 AM
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Apparently not so easy to disprove.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:34 PM
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Logic is convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:32 PM
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So you don't have a right to have men build your house?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:32 PM
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not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:41 AM
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So disprove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:40 AM
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Women are enabled to hate men because women don't have to worry about men punishing them for their hatred. And they don't need men directly for anything, because they have access to what they want and need from men indirectly. Men have to worry about women punishing them by denying them sex (and everything that goes with sex), reproduction, divorce raping them etc etc. Men don't have any legal ways to punish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:40 AM
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True. All show that women hate men far more and men love women far more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:36 AM
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Right to sex. Right to your own money. Right to you reproductive choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:35 AM
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The only way to make things better for men is to "take things away" from women. It's a zero sum game. Yknow, just like everything women want to improve their lives, and have achieved in the past 60-100 years, has been taking things away from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:34 AM
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Feminism doesn't just exist in internet echo chambers. It exists everywhere (in the west). It's ubiquitous and the dominant ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:31 AM
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And all those men are famous. You don't find regular 60 year old men hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:13 AM
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Men have much stronger sex drives, they are more attracted to their wives/girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:12 AM
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These behaviours are much more common among women today than men. In any meaningful sense, because women can actually fulfil their base desires, most men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:11 AM
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No. There's no such thing as bigotry, the things you can supposedly be "bigoted" against are completely arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:15 PM
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Indeed, just like when you dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as an -ism or a -phobe. The distinction is that my designation means something and is objectively true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:09 PM
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The things you want men to value are no more part of "the person" than the things men actually value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:49 PM
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Mistaken about what? I've never heard a sane person say that anal sex isn't painful before, just you. Gay men don't have much choice but to adapt, given men don't have vaginas. Oh noes, not a phobia or an ism! The magical incantation, you win the argument!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:47 PM
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You're just laughably and stupidly wrong. I don't know I'm engaging with someone arguing that there's any remote equivalence between being fucked in the vagina and fucked in the arse lol. Peak Reddit. There are lots of nerve endings in your stomach, it doesn't imply it's normal or healthy to fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:36 PM
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It always hurts. Some people just like pain, they're masochists. There is no male "g-spot" (and that's not really a genuine, scientific thing anyway). Faecal matter is soft, dicks aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:09 PM
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This is deeply not a rebuttal (pun intended).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:48 AM
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How is it false? lol. The arsehole is an exit hole, biologically, and not designed for sex. Unlike the vagina, which is designed for sex. Most women don't enjoy (and don't want to do) anal because it hurts. Some porn stars blow their arseholes out and cause serious damage doing anal. As a guy, if I was to be penetratively raped, being fucked in the mouth would be exponentially preferable (because it wouldn't hurt).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:50 AM
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It's inherently painful and damaging. The arsehole is not designed for sex and penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:50 AM
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These things are not inherent to men. Yes, they absolutely are. Women are physically incapable of much of them, such as most forms of protection. And at no point in history, in no society, have women provided these things to men (as demographics). These things are inherent to women. No, they absolutely aren't. There is nothing "inherent" about child support laws, taxation, the exclusion of sex from commodification and exploitation, abortion, the pill, paternity fraud being legal, and so on, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:28 AM
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But it kind of dispels your original point that the reason the government collects taxes is become of women right? No? What does the UK have to do with this? lol I'm in the UK. And Yankland has, traditionally, had lower taxes than the UK. In the UK, women and men have had equal voting rights since around 1918-1928. And there were significantly more women at that time (well over a million, at a time the population was around 42 million), due to almost a million men being slaughtered in WW1 (somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:19 AM
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It seems like you DO understand the analogy then. Not in the context of this conversation, or it's relevance. Women can build their own houses, their own roads, their own cars, drill for their own oil, farm their own food, pay for their own public services, their own children etc etc etc. But they don't, they make men do all these things. Because you're not blaming those men for receiving it, only women. Because we're discussing men and women, as groups. That's kind of the purpose of the sub. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:10 AM
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I was being rhetorical, responding to someone who personalised the conversation. It was also you that said women should be forced into unwanted sexual activity right? No. It was me who said sex should be treated like every other form of bodily labour and women should have to provide for men in the same way men have to provide for women. Those aren't solutions, they're just proof of my position. That men are slaves for women and society, while women are autonomous human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:04 AM
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I'm not desperate for women, I'm not talking about myself and have not mentioned myself. I'm talking about society. Ad hominems aren't arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:24 AM
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Women Are Wonderful Effect
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:23 AM
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They should have to, to get what they want and need from men. But they don't have to, because society hands them what they want and need from men on a silver platter (for nothing in return).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:22 AM
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Surrogacy is not legally enforceable. The woman can change her mind at any point. She can take thousands from a man and then decide to keep the child, and the man has no legal recourse. Buying babies (unborn or not) is illegal, generally. Just as buying sex is, generally. Also, I'm very curious what "per hour" means for surrogacy. Women have divine autonomy over their reproduction and their sex, their two most valuable things and the two things men need most from them. This is very much not true…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:17 AM
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Tax is not a choice, sex is. Men pay tax, women provide sex. Society is not fair or free. It's a rigged system, and rigged against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:13 AM
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It's striking how many women/simps struggle with not resorting to anecdote and personalising macro issues they can't face or refute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:59 AM
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There would be options for women if tax didn't exist and men had autonomy over their bodies and labour. They could trade their sex for a man's labour and resources or be homeless and bankrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:57 AM
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A lot of women can't even make themselves cum, what hope does a man have?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:56 AM
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Would you be able to enjoy living in a house a man didn't enjoy building? If so, how is that any different to enslaving a man and using his body? > Then women can provide money, resources, labor, etc. No, they can't. They're physically incapable of providing the things men do. And society needs them to provide sex and children. Society doesn't function if people aren't, generally, doing what they're most needed for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:55 AM
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I'm really not interested in this conversation being forcibly segued into "muh rape bad", like every single gender-based conversation that ever existed. It's tedious and you aren't acknowledging any of my points. Just engaging in typical female victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:52 AM
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I don't care what you, as an individual, think or want. This isn't about individuals, about the sexes. Men are not legally permitted to abdicate their responsibility. Even responsibilities they shouldn't have, such as the one you allude to. Men have no reproductive rights or choice, they're enslaved by the woman's choice. Her body, her choice, his responsibility-- that's how it works. Men cannot legally avoid paying child support or avoid paying taxes-- which are what subsidise degenerate single…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:50 AM
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Taxes were nothing prior to women getting the vote. 5-10% in the 19th century (in the UK). Women have voted to consistently increase taxes and be given more stuff from men. Higher taxes, more child support, more alimony, more public services etc etc. You're acting like there's a vote every year for taxes vs no taxes and no matter what men just can't win because women out vote them. I'm acting like democracy exists. And women consistently vote for higher taxes and more "free" stuff (primarily pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:45 AM
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I don't understand the analogy. Men can clean their own rooms. Men can't have sex with themselves (well, they can, but it's not the same). > Everything you listed is also provided to other men too How is that relevant? > Maybe it's time for you to stop asking what women can do for you and instead ask what you can do for local men. I can't have sex with them, as 95% are straight and want to have sex with women. I can't date them, marry them, have relationships with them, flirt with them or have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:41 AM
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Anal penetration is not remotely equivalent to vaginal penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:10 AM
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Just swap "sex" for any other form of commodified and exploited labour and it answers all your questions. There's nothing special or unique about sex. How are men ‘having their money stolen’? Are you referring to alimony? Taxes, child support, alimony, marriage, divorce settlements etc etc. If so, what do you propose should happen to spouses in which the agreement was that they should stay at home? Should they be homeless or stuck in a marriage because their only other option is poverty? Men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:45 AM
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The government collects taxes because that's what women have voted for for the last century. I know you like to live in a reality in which women are not responsible for anything, but this is not the reality we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:33 AM
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It's not a dream reality, it's just a reality in which there's some semblance of equality. There's basically two ways to enact it. Either liberate men from their responsibilities to women, or place the same responsibilities onto women to provide for men. So, either do away with taxes and give men the same autonomy over their bodies/labour/resources as women have over their bodies/sex or make sex as commodified and exploited as male labour/resources are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:30 AM
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Of course they're not-- because one impacts men (and is normalised) and one impacts (women and is illegal and taboo).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:27 AM
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How so? When men and providing women with everything they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:25 AM
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So, they have the choice to be homeless and bankrupt?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:24 AM
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She can. She can easily find a man and tell him how to make her cum, and he will happily do it. Men have also created sex toys for women and erotica for women. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:23 AM
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What do women make, that men need and can't make themselves? Besides children-- which they have complete autonomy over (unlike men and their labour and resources), which they're also failing to make (see the fertility rates in the west).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:22 AM
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They don't, relative to men. And money is a social construct, it's not a measure of actual value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:21 AM
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As per Google, around 93% of landscape gardeners are male. But of course Reddit anecdotes refute reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:19 AM
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Not heard of social housing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:17 AM
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You bought it at a reasonable price because men's labour is commodified and exploited-- unlike women's labour. Men can't buy sex or reproduction for a reasonable price, hence the disparity. It's amusing how selective feminists are about when they acknowledge social constructs and when they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:16 AM
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Nobody mentioned rape. As is typical when anything is expected of women, you've reverted to the most extreme scenario to justify female victimhood, and exculpate them from any responsibility. Responding to the notion that women should supply men with sex with "but that's rape" is as facile as responding to the notion that men should supply women with houses with "but that's slavery". Having your money stolen results in men being made homeless, men killing themselves, men being impoverished, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:30 PM
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They don't need to have casual sex, they can easily find relationships. Why shouldn't women be "forced" into unwanted sexual activity? Men are forced to have their money stolen and handed to women. They're "forced" to provide anything and everything a woman wants from them. It seems like you're describing equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:22 PM
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What does "economic driver" mean? They cause huge demand for men to supply things for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:20 PM
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Everything. Name something a woman wants from a man she can't easily access. Why would a woman be resentful of men, when they built her house and everything in it, when they have access to their taxes, when they protect them from harm in every way, when they can have sex with a man whenever they want, get dates from men whenever they want etc etc? Men are resentful of women because they need sex and can't access it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:50 PM
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Of course she's not resentful, there's nothing she needs from a man she can't easily access.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:40 PM
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> Which specific men are spending their money, against their will, on women's sports? Money men spend on men's sport is stolen and spent on women's sport. Specifically because they're women. Not only is this despicable, it should be illegal. It's blatant sex discrimination. In football, spending on women's football is exempt from financial limits (in English football, clubs can only spend x% of their income). Again, blatant sex discrimination. > as always you can change the channel. No, I can't.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:34 PM
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Women also make everything censorious. Look at the internet. 10 years of women on the internet and it's been transformed from the biggest free speech/expression platform in human history to a place where you can get arrested for a joke you made 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:17 PM
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Having women around, for men, is like having young children around. You have to radically alter your behaviour and make them the priority. You have to pander to them and display concern for their sensitivities and "welfare".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:16 PM
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Well, lets look at sports. Men are forced to subsiside women's sport, as well as accept and pander to women entering men's sports. I'm a football fan (proper football). Over the last 5 years, since BLM and woke Yank identity politics infested my country, I now have to suffer female commentators and pundits, and women's football being constantly advertised and forced down my throat. Constant feminist lectures and having the money I spend on men's football being stolen and spent on women's footbal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:15 PM
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That his shitty dating life is his own fault. Just brushing his self-sabotaging as "well, she didn't want me anyway". Who are you talking about? lol. This person you don't know who you've heard a second-hand account about? lol. You can't get laid if you turn women off at the first date. You can easily get laid if you can get dates lol. That is modern dating. Thanks to Feminism, social media, gynocentric society and women's hypergamy. I think you've spent far too much time on here and online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:47 AM
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Accountability for what? lol. What is a man who goes on a date and is disinterested in the woman evading accountability for? > Also, the type of guy you're talking about that can get away with that type of behavior is a 10/10. That guy to be on the same level of Jeremy Meeks and you guys want to live in the fantasy that's plausible for the majority of men. That isn't how it works. Women's hypergamy isn't quite that extreme (yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:41 AM
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> Women are hardly believed. Yes they are. > They are accused of lying for no reason all the time. You mean by a small minority of anonymous people with no power online? Who are then attacked as mysoggyknees? The consensus is that women are believed, unless it can be proven otherwise (which is almost impossible). And even when it's proven, there's little to no punishment for the woman. eg. the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp situation. She had a previous domestic violence arrest on her CV. Depp had noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:49 PM
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Men are supposed to be shallow. They're supposed to value women for their youth and fertility. That's biology. Men need sex and can only get it from one place. Unlike women, who can get what they need/want from men from a thousand different places. How is being happy to fuck 50% of women being "shallow" anyway? Weird perspective. > Let’s just pretend men don’t outnumber women on dating apps. Let’s not have facts get in the way of making men feel morally superior. Lets just ignore why men outnumb…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:43 PM
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> it’s not illegal for men to not act manly either. Heard of taxes? Child support? Alimony? Marriage? Divorce settlements? Men paying for women is "manly" and is legally obligated. Heard of Conscription? Men protecting women is "manly" and is legally obligated. And men doing all of the "manly" and essential jobs may not be legally obligated, but it's heavily incentivised. And men are openly discriminated against in most jobs women actually want, as well as in education-- so they're funnelled int…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:52 PM
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> Women literally do more housework on average. Wrong. Self-reported "studies" focused on selective forms of "housework" show it. If it was objectively measured and the many things men do, which women ignore, were factored in, that wouldn't be the case. eg. men do much more of the driving than women: https://www.consumeraffairs.com/insurance/male-vs-female-driving-statistics.html But women don't even see or acknowledge half of the things men do. > Even when a couple plan to raise children equall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:40 PM
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Yes, they're shallow. But not as shallow as the women who date them, as proven by the dating data. Which shows women only match with and message a tiny % of men, based solely on looks. While men match/message around 50% of women. > Having sex on the first date means the date has to actually be successful. No it doesn't. Dates today are usually just foreplay. > You do realize you’re describing very stupid men, right? Of course the conversation is boring, they keep giving one word answers. Lol, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:29 PM
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They don't, that's feminist propaganda. Society generally believes them and sentences the man to being a rapist irrespective of evidence. A woman can accuse a man of anything and she will be believed, and the man's life will be destroyed. Even in criminal cases. Men can be charged with sexual assaults from 20 years ago, which they can't possibly disprove, and found guilty. There's a "metoo" movement, there isn't "shesawhore" movement or a "hedidntdoit" movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:25 PM
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Lol what, it's completely socially taboo for a man to display any expectation a woman has sex with him, even in a relationship. Not to mention it's completely illegal and taking sex without consent is considered the gravest crime known to man. Again, women are doing none of the things you mention. Male sexlessness is through the roof, fertility rates are through the floor, women do nothing but spew hatred at men (particularly on social media) and women's obesity rates are sky high. And none of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:48 AM
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Women aren't obligated to provide pussy in a marriage. Women aren't obligated and are failing to (check the fertility rates) provide children to society. Nurturing? lol. Today's women certainly aren't nurturing men, they're spewing endless reservoirs of bile at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:06 AM
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Yes, that's why rape is considered the worst crime in existence and men fund, built and maintain a criminal justice system which is designed to punish and prevent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:03 AM
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No, but society does. It tends to them and usually enslaves men to remedy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:02 AM
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Pretty much. If the woman is young and not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:01 AM
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There is no "systemic oppression" of women. Pretending to be victims of fictional male oppression is misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:00 AM
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Men don't go on dates with women they're disinterested in to "create drama and play games"-- they do it to have sex. And maybe he turned up to the date and realised he wasn't attracted to her, or she was boring. Or maybe he was self-conscious about the weird simp nearby listening to their conversation while making Tiktoks. What is your opinion on the top, mass upvoted comment on your link, which I referenced? If you don't think that's absurd, it somewhat invalidates your perspective. The female …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:33 AM
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Women typically use toys, men typically watch porn. This isn't complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:28 AM
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> Most women would have no problem with men masturbating to male-oriented erotica, I think. Yes they would. They'd find a reason to demonise it. That's the point. AI porn (which involves no real people) is already being demonised and made illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:25 AM
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> A sex toy isn't used to arouse, it's specifically designed to produce an orgasm via direct physical stimulation. Lol. Men are visual, women are less so. Women typically use toys to masturbate, men typically use porn. It's a perfect equivalence. > Porn is a visual aid in arousal, but isn't actually physically stimulating you. Yes it is. Porn makes a man hard without touching himself. Again, this is a distinction without a difference. Many women, after using high power vibrators, can only cum wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:20 AM
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Men and women are not the same, sex toys are the female equivalent to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:13 AM
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It is a double standard because sex toys are the female equivalent to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:12 AM
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It's very much the equivalent thing. And women talk about "objectification", a dildo is literally the objectification of a male sex organ..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:11 AM
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> This is a pretty loaded response
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:10 AM
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Swap the sexes in that anecdote and he/you would be saying the guy is in the wrong, the girl isn't interested and she should leave. The top comment is "we don't leave because we're afraid they will kill us" lmao. How do you even consider such absurd bias and misandry? It's beyond parody. Maybe that guy just wasn't interested in her? That would be the assumption if a girl wasn't putting effort into talking to a guy. Women have worse hygiene than men. Men shower more than women. The number of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:11 PM
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But men have had to adapt quickly to not being able to use their physical power over women. If they don't, they go to prison. And to suppress their innate sex drive, otherwise they go to prison. I'm not talking about nurture, I'm talking about the practical reality of how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:01 PM
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> Males don't get pregnant. Having sex with a poorly vetted partner carries with it far less consequence. This aspect of biology has been completely subverted by abortion, the pill, child support and taxes. It's now men who bear the risk from sex. It's not Mother Nature, it's society and laws. Women need men more than men need women, men are just hamstrung in their ability to leverage their value, while women are very much not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:04 AM
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Yes, gynocentric s o c i e t y.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:27 PM
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The risk and burden of pregnancy has been completely subverted and passed onto men, since the advent and availability of abortion and the pill. This is now men's burden. They bear the risk of sex, they are the ones enslaved, the woman is the one with all the choice, control and power. And the physical power thing has also been massively mitigated, by the criminal justice system, which is massively biased against men and in favour of women. As well as society being the same way, male chivalry etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:46 PM
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There isn't a sexual imbalance, because it is mitigated by women needing men for just about everything else-- to provide resources, labour and protection. The "imbalance" is produced by society stealing all these things from men and handing them to women for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:42 PM
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Children are treated as property by women. Should we end that oppression? Women have all the power. As well as all the special privileges children get. They are the privileged class. Men only get responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:40 PM
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Weird how selective women are about which of those phenomena they participate in, and which they refuse to participate in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:28 PM
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I really don't think you'd like this. Women would just all approach the same tiny % of most attractive and high status men. How do you think women being more sexually uninhibited would be a good thing? Has it been a good thing so far? The approacher has all the choice. They get to pick who they want to date. The approached doesn't, they can only pick from the men who approach them. This is a luxury for men, which you should appreciate. Would you like being able to only choose from a small group …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:24 PM
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Everyone can date with approaching now, online. But only attractive men and all woman can be successful doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:21 PM
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The example has been a child the whole time What? We weren't talking about children being raped. That would fall into the 5% which men don't consider trivial. Why would that be trivial if it’s a stranger but a big deal if it happened to your daughter? Do you care more about a random stranger dying or your Mother dying? Silly question. If my mom thought breaking a nail is a serious medical issue, I would also think it’s silly. Not if she genuinely believed it, acted as if she genuinely believed i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:14 AM
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Sharing private interactions with the public is. Falsely accusing someone of abuse is abuse. Additionally, if you think a short video is representative of an entire relationship, you're genuinely R-tarded. JFL, I watched the video. HAHAHAHAHA. He doesn't even raise his voice. Grow tf up. What is abuse is divorce-raping a guy, stealing millions of Dollars from him, lying about him being abusive publicly and taking his children from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:03 AM
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I'm not interested in marital arguments. I've heard my parents have much worse ones. I've had much worse ones with my sister. Again, grow tf up. > I don’t recall anyone ever uploading a video of her saying the same shit to him. Yeah, because he's not an abuser, like she is, releasing private recordings of their private interactions to the public in an effort to destroy his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:11 PM
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That's a silly question, everyone cares about their loved ones more than strangers. Also, one example you gave was a child. > Even in the most patriarchal cultures men are upset about that because women are their property and it’s a slight on them. And women only care about rape because it's an affront to their sexual power and dominance. We can all patholagise behaviours. Sexual assault and rape wasn't that big of a deal just 30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:10 PM
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Men have to be woman centred because the things they need from women aren't stolen and handed to them, they have to actually attain them. Women would be more men centred if this was reciprocal, if they didn't have divine access to men's resources, labour and protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:06 PM
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If a woman is receiving no support that means she is working and making her own money and paying her own taxes (more than you can say). No man is paying for it. She is paying her own rent or mortgage. Buying her own food. I know it's hard to fathom how paychecks and bills work since you don't receive them but no one helps if you don't receive support . They are productive members of society. They are paying taxes into they system. Christ al-fucking-mighty. They are not paying shit, they're a hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:04 PM
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> I still don’t agree men are consistent. Most men would be irate if a male teacher slept with their daughter or if a man groped their girlfriend’s ass. That's personalising it, it's different. And yeah, they probably have a pro-female bias as well. But that's mostly due to decades of feminist propaganda and women complaining about it so much. > I also don’t buy that men would think it’s trivial if a man groped them in a club or masturbated in a train while looking at them. When I was a kid, my …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:56 PM
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"Verbally abusing" lmao. You mean having an argument? Which every single couple and person does, most days? Grow tf up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:54 PM
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Family love is not the same as romantic love. Certainly not for me, as I have a great family. Romantic relationships typically end instantaneously. They're conditional. If someone cheats, for example. It's silly to pretend otherwise. And, like I said, you can have a romantic relationship without marriage. There's no need for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:53 PM
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No, men die younger because men sacrifice themselves and their bodies for women, and women are prioritised for every form of healthcare and welfare. Something like 80% of women survived the Titanic. Something like 10% of men did, and 50% of children. If women were oppressed and exploited by men, they certainly wouldn't be outliving men. Oppressed classes don't outlive oppressor classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:49 PM
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I don't wear undies or leave skidmarks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:46 PM
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So, Mothers subjugate their children. Women are oppressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:45 PM
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Infantilism is not subjugation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:49 PM
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Inane.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:49 PM
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Because data and research exists. I'm not "bashing" anyone, I'm just stating how it is. I don't know why any man would get married today. If you want a family, you can have kids without getting married, with much less risk. Why would you sign away any leverage you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:48 PM
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> Men deem sexual harassment from other men much worse. Against men or women? I'm lost in this conversation tbh. Men deem 95% of sexual assault/harassment trivial, whether it's a male or female victim. When I was a kid, I had a girl slap my arse, I had a girl put her hands down my pants and grab my dick, there are probably more instances if I cared enough to remember them. But they aren't significant. I feel the same about women's victimhood, but am expected to pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:41 PM
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I'm not sure you're understanding. Men view 95% of what women consider, or pretend to consider, "assault", "harassment" etc as trivial, forgettable nonsense. Whether it's against a man or a woman. They'll often pretend it's not when it's against a woman because they're simps and afraid of being called abusers etc. They're consistent. Or they have a pro-female bias. > I agree women often don’t take male victims seriously But they take women victims seriously. Inconsistent. > but men also don’t al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:37 PM
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No, he isn't. That's feminazi propaganda. His ex-wife is abusive and a "piece of shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:26 PM
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Being rejected by a redditor doesn't make you a loser. You don't define what a loser is. All men get rejected. It's a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:25 PM
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There's no such thing as a "deadbeat Dad", as we've established. And "taxpayers" = men. Lol. Men pay 80% of taxes. Men are the one who have to pay, by force, for women's choices. For women's choice to have a child. From their own body. They cry about bodily autonomy and the "right to choose", but they hand off the commensurate responsibility onto men. Less than one-quarter of single-mother families receive any amount of child support. Most single mothers don't receive any support. That's their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:49 PM
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I'm not blaming all women, whatever that means. I'm acknowledging a pro-woman system. Simping and denying reality won't save you from the consequences of said system. I didn't choose any woman. I'd never get married or have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:37 PM
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You're right, there's no equivalence. Women hating men is much more normalised and pervasive. Always has been. > Women as a whole aren't going to round up men and kill them. They never have. When did men round up women and kill them? lol. Women are physically incapable of rounding up men and killing them-- they get men to do it for them. That's what prison is, for example. That's what divorce-rape is, baby-trapping is, and so on. Show me a society in which men outlived women. It doesn't exist. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:35 PM
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Nor do women. Women have a long history of being pampered and protected by men. Men have no such history of being pampered and protected by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:32 PM
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Marriage is what removes accountability from women. So too children, to a lesser extent. It doesn't matter what character you think the woman has, once she has all the power, she will likely do what she wants, and you will have no leverage. What do you think you can do if you marry a woman and she gets fat? Your choice is accept it or get divorce-raped, lose your house, most of your money and your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:31 PM
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By definition, they're not losers. They're successful, rich and can easily get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:55 AM
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Crowder is a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:54 AM
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Most women don't have guts until you marry them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:52 AM
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Feminist, misandrist ideology is just as poisonous, and far, far more pervasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:51 AM
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They are, just not in the way you want. They deem it as trivial whomever is doing it. Unless it's actually serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:22 PM
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Men are consistent in what they deem to be harassment/assault, or not. Women aren't-- women deem it harassment/assault if it's a man on a woman and not if it's a woman on a man, typically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:55 PM
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More anecdotes, wonderful. Almost all of your examples are instances where the Father has primary custody. Which is the minority. Which means for every one of your examples, there are a thousand equivalent male examples. Meaning it's a predominantly male crime being prosecuted. A woman can accuse any man she wants but the courts require a paternity test to order child support so if he isn't actually the father the accusations won't get her very far This isn't true, for the reasons I specified in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:53 PM
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Women lie all the time. I don't know whether you know this. And being found guilty doesn't mean guilt, all justice systems are extremely biased against men and in favour of women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muTxllxKFUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=103U8JQ_HVA And women support women who lie. Like the daughter in the above clip, who still supported her lying Mother after her Father passed the polygraph test.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:37 PM
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Yes, and men get no allowances for these changes in what is deemed acceptable. 10 years ago, drunken sex was normalised, now it's rape. And any man who had drunken sex in the past is now deemed a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:34 PM
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> Every single woman I know has a story about harassment or assault. And the guys that did that dont even consider it harassment or assault. Every single guy I know has a story as well. But they've repressed it because they don't consider it harassment or assault either. I mean by women. Men are consistent, women aren't. I have loads of stories myself. Men also have stories about false accusations, lies and exaggerations about them committing some heinous act.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:30 PM
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No you haven't, you've had a thing for attractive, muscular bald men who shaved it all off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:25 PM
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Men and women are not the same. The problem with men asking women for advice is that women have a strong in-group preference-- they care about women much more than they do men. Which colours the advice they give and makes it unreliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:24 PM
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> Tldr: don't listen to people on the internet This is awkward..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:10 PM
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I did a 3 sec Google search and easily found women arrested for not paying child support That isn't what I said. I said women arrested for preventing Fathers from seeing their children. Again, your anecdotes don't refute data. Male "crimes" are punished much more harshly than female crimes. The bias against men, and in favour of women, in the criminal justice system is staggering, and well documented. A small minority of women being arrested for a typically male crime doesn't make that crime not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:47 PM
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Also, men are the vast majority of the homeless, die 4-10 years earlier in every single country. Poor women and their "economic disadvantage".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:23 PM
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“The sexual market is rigged against men” Translation: women can say no now. For most of history, women were forced into marriage for survival. You don’t miss “fairness” ,you miss leverage. "Leverage" is fairness. Men are enslaved for women, women are not enslaved for men. You are not the victim here, men are. A system where women can choose is only “rigged” if you believe access to women is something men are entitled to. They are, as mentioned above. “Men build and subsidize everything” Men wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:21 PM
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> “Female promiscuity destroys society” No. What destroys societies are poverty, violence Promiscuity and single Mother families cause these things. > Funny how you blame women for outcomes overwhelmingly caused by male abandonment, violence, and refusal to parent — the one variable you consistently refuse to hold men accountable for. Men are not responsible for women's decision to have a baby. Men are not responsible for women's bodies and what comes out of women's bodies. You cannot "abandon" …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:15 PM
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Women don't have all the power, and men have rights. Men have custodial rights to their children, men get child support from women when they are the custodial parent and in divorces. Fathers have a say over the upbringing of their children when they choose to remain part of the child's life and they can get court orders to say so. Women have all the reproductive and sexual power. 93% of child support payers are men. Pretending this is an egalitarian system designed to be egalitarian is retarded.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:59 PM
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Okay, try to include some arguments when you do, and not just a stream of insults (as above).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:20 PM
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If a father is not helping to raise his child, he is a deadbeat. No, he isn't. Because he had no legal choice to become a Father. He has no reproductive rights, therefore he has no reproductive responsibilities. Her body, her choice, her responsibility. The only legal means of a man choosing to become a Father (in theory) is marriage-- and even then it's subject to paternity, and paternity fraud is rampant. most couples decide together. No, they don't. For the reasons above. You have no argument…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:14 PM
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Single Mothers, paternity fraud, infidelity, low marriage rates, sex-deprived men, rock bottom fertility rates-- all bad for society. All products of hoe culture. Lol. Do you realise what a child you sound like? Men get dictated, by women, what they do with their bodies every day. They get their money stolen via taxes and there's not a single thing a woman wants or needs from a man she can't easily access. That is control. What you want is divine privilege. Women are allergic to any sense of res…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:07 PM
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Because it's disastrous for society. It leads to single parent homes, which are disastrous for children. It leads to paternity fraud, which is disastrous for men. It leads to lonely, sex-deprived and demotivated men, which is disastrous for men and society. Why do you completely ignore that men's sexuality is "shamed" more? And why do you resort to personalising it inane ways? I don't care about me, or you. > Do you shame men who are naturally tall, fit and handsome enough to attract women easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:02 PM
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There's no such thing as a "deadbeat Dad", because men have no reproductive rights. They're enslaved by the woman's choice. There would be fewer kids without fathers if fathers fathered their children. Again, men don't choose when a child is produced and under what circumstances-- women do. Women have all the power and all the choice. Women can easily choose to marry a man before having a child. Men can't choose anything, because they can't make a baby. They're subject to the woman's decision. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:02 PM
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Those are the same arguments people make against abortion-- which women have a right to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:56 PM
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A woman who raises a child as a single Mother is a failure. A child deserves a Father and is entitled to a Father. Women's worth is having (and raising) children and giving men sex. That is what they offer society. She did fail, in part. But society failed her by forcing her children to grow up in a broken, gynocentric system.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:36 PM
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It hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:33 PM
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You brought anecdotes into the conversation, I didn't. I didn't mention myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:46 PM
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She isn't worthless. She got married and had two children. That is a woman's value. That's what a woman has to contribute to society. Men are building those houses and everything in them. JFL @ the trivial shit women want credit for. Men build you a house and you want credit for running a hoover over it once a month lol. I didn't say only men have value. I said only women have autonomy and control over their value. I've literally said what value women have: sex and reproduction. And that men nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:45 PM
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I'm trying to find an answer to my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:42 PM
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Women pay the same tax rates. We don't get a special rate This is as facile as saying women get sex the same way men do. Men and women are not the same. The woman used to stay home because one income was enough. How many men are out there earning enough to support an entire household? Yeah, before women chose to double the labour supply, double competition for jobs and halve wages. Now men and women are working more than either did in the 50s for less money. So you yourself are a tax burden. I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:50 PM
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Women have divine power, legal and social power, over their sexuality. Women, innately, have all the sexual value. The same goes for reproduction. The biological burden of reproduction has been lifted off women and handed to men due to abortion and the morning after pill. I have a Mother and a Father. Who have been married for 35 years. .men don't benefit from housework? they don't eat food that is cooked? they don't wear clothes washed and ironed? Good luck finding a woman who will do these thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:47 PM
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Where is the mutual benefit if the man wants sex but doesn't get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:35 PM
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> Ignoring the fact that women almost never actively pursue friendships with men and it's really only men that do it That's not true, friendship happen organically. But, even if it were, nobody can force you to be their friend. It's a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:50 PM
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2/2 If trends continue, your taxes won't matter anymore so you won't have to worry. Women will be giving you money. This will only happen if men stop working. And, if it did happen, and political and social trends continued, women would absolutely not give men their money in the same way men do. There would be policy changes. Until then, you tax money is going to be used to raise Chad's baby because Chad shouldn't be bothered to pay, right? Neither men nor Chad should be forced to pay. The woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:49 PM
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If you have unprotected sex, you consent to the possibility of becoming a parent You don't if you're a woman, only if you're a man you do. Despite the fact it's the woman's body and, consequently, the woman's responsibility (even apart from the reproductive options disparity). You can always choose not to have sex at all if you don't like the odds. Or you could use multiple forms of birth control like millions of adults who don't get pregnant everyday. These are the same arguments people use aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:49 PM
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You didn't answer my implicit question. Why do women befriend men to use them when they don't need to? Men need to, they can't get sex and intimacy anywhere else. Women can get anything they want from men without befriending them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:30 PM
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So if sex is consensual , then men have a choice. Consenting to sex is not consenting to parenthood. It's not for women, therefore it shouldn't be for men. That's equality. There's the clear disparity in accountability for men and women. Women don't have to bear the "accountability" of parenthood due to having sex, men do. Women don't have to take accountability for their own body and what their own body produces (the baby), while men are enslaved to take accountability for it. I make over 6 fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:51 AM
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Men waste their time because they need sex and intimacy, and they can only get it from women. I'm not sure why women do. They can get friendship from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:37 AM
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And all men know at least one woman who has pretended to be his friend to get him to do stuff for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:58 PM
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Many women aren't happy either, even ones who don't have abortions. Being unhappy with your own choices is very different to being unhappy with being enslaved by other peoples' choices. The mother has to everything else in that scenario. The Mother has to do nothing. Including being a Mother. And everything meaningful is done by men. Men build the house the baby lives in, the school it goes, the hospital it goes to, provides it with food, just about everything. If you accidentally ran over a ped…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:34 PM
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You're not acknowledging that that's irrelevant, because a woman has the legal right to veto that decision post-sex. And women have the same choices, plus post-hoc reproductive choices which men don't have-- meaning there is not equality and no equivalence. And she can also lie about taking birth control with impunity, while he will be thrown in prison if he lies about wearing a condom. My husband has no unplanned children. My male friends have no unplanned children. None of them had any reprodu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:29 AM
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You're not acknowledging that one side of the equation is a choice and one isn't. Women have all the choice re: their reproduction, when they get pregnant, when they have a child, when they take maternity leave. Men have no choice that their money gets stolen and handed to women. > Look at the biggest financial fraud cases a see how many of them were women... Yeah, because female fraud is legalised. It's called divorce, alimony, child support, unemployment benefits etc. > Paying child support fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:23 PM
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It's relative. And it depends how you define promiscuity. The vast majority of women are absolutely not exclusively having sex in long-term relationships. If that was the case, there wouldn't be such a disparity between the amount of sex men and women were having (ie a small % of men having lots of sex and the rest having little). And there wouldn't be so many single Mothers. https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim If men and women are pairing u…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:18 PM
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Do you understand what gender equality is? Women have post-conception birth control and choice, men do not. Additionally, it's the woman's body which creates and bears the child. Consequently, the woman should be 100% responsible for said child. > Your argument in favor of slut shaming hinges on women getting pregnant…. but there’s multiple ways to ensure you DON’T get pregnant. This is a stupid argument. On a macro level, it doesn't matter. Promiscuity has correlated spectacularly with single M…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:02 PM
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> If you look at the embedded link https://infogram.com/Number-of-taxpayers-by-gender-and-income-bracket and click through the income brackets, you will see a large discrepancy in the number of men vs women in the larger brackets. In the US in 2024, women earned about 85% of what men earned so it makes sense that they will pay less in me tax if they have less income. Are you joking with this? lol. Men work more, men earn more, men pay more taxes. That money is stolen and given to women. Men have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:58 PM
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Because the vast majority of men CANNOT be promiscuous lol. They have no sexual power. That's why there's a much greater impetus on controlling women's promiscuity. Men's promiscuity is controlled by nature. They aren't doing it together because women all fuck the same small % of men, given the opportunity to be promiscuous, with no controls on their sexual behaviour. That's why male sexlessness has at least doubled in the last 10 years-- because women have become more promiscuous and have fewer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:49 PM
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In practical, social and legal terms, a woman makes a baby, and she has divine access to men's sperm-- in that she, innately, has all the sexual power. And society doesn't put really any limitations on that power. Unlike, to continue my equivalence, men's physical power (or men's sexual behaviour). There are no legal consequences for anything a woman does sexually, generally speaking. > How easy one gets sex is irrelevant. Nope, it's VERY relevant. Just as who bears the child is relevant. Just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:30 PM
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> Conveniently ignoring the fact that the figures vary wildly and it could be significantly lower than that. Just like you're conveniently ignoring the nuances of the statistic you're citing, such as the fact it asked whether the person had *mostly* grown up with both parents. > Also funny how you try to blame the mum and not the absent father in those cases where the criminal was raised by a single mum. What is funny about accountability? Who decides when a child is born? Whose body is it? Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:19 PM
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Protection exists, so abortion shouldn't? That's the only position I can extrapolate from your argument. A woman decides what results in a child. Consequently, she should be responsible for said child. Men are not responsible for women's bodies, nor what comes out of women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:12 PM
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By definition it isn't-- sex is the most natural thing in the world. Just about every species of animal does it and spends half of its life trying to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:07 PM
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Hitting people is perfectly natural, are you familiar with nature? They're perfect equivalences. Men have the physical power, women have the sexual power. Women being sluts absolutely harms people. It harms the children born from these casual encounters, as they invariably have to grow up in single parent homes, impoverished and with much worse outcomes for just about everything. They harm the men who are forced to become Fathers of these children, and to pay for them. The men who are forced to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:05 PM
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There's nothing "perverted" about having sex. Of course feminists don't care about the wellbeing of children or the servitude of men, all they care about is the power and freedom of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:01 PM
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Men cannot abandon their children, as men have no reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:59 PM
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> Different research into young offenders has found that as many as 76% had an “absent father”. Also, the UK isn't the best case study, as criminals are disproportionately immigrant, and immigrants tend to be more traditional (ie married parents).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:58 PM
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Single Motherhood rates have correlated with female promiscuity being more normalised. They absolutely cause harm. The outcomes for children growing up in single parent homes are disastrous. They cause paternity fraud, infidelity and men to be enslaved to pay for these children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:55 PM
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No, it takes one person to make a baby-- the woman. Women can get sex from men anytime they choose, innately and biologically, it has no value. "Tax payers" = men. Men pay something like 80% of taxes. Men are forced to pay for women's decision to have a baby-- and to have one unmarried to a guy who didn't want a child. Also, promiscuous men are "shamed". Why do you think the terms "creep", "predator", "pedo" exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:51 PM
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There's no such thing as a "deadbeat Dad", as men have no reproductive rights or choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:50 PM
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Das have no reproductive choice, therefore should have no reproductive responsibility. Men don't choose when a child is born, women do. Her body, her choice, her responsibility-- not his. As always, accountability is women's Kryptonite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:50 PM
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Slut shaming is right for the same reason shaming men for hitting their girlfriends is right. It's a check on power.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:47 PM
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> Because it’s just people shaming others for a normal activity many people enjoy. If it’s not your hobby, don’t do it, why would you want to shame people who are into it though? What purpose would that serve? Because it's bad for society. Behaviours which are bad for society should be "shamed", that's how them being bad is enforced. Without this, they become more common and normalised-- which is precisely what has happened with slut behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:46 PM
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Weird how women simply existing entitles them to everything they want from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:59 PM
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Withholding intimacy was a basic female dating requirement, which has been destroyed by feminism. You don't have sex with a guy until he's your boyfriend, you don't have kids with a guy until he's your husband. It's not complicated. But this is anathema to modern women. You will see women spewing dating advice all over Tiktok and Instagram, but you will almost never see them advising any form of not being a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:50 PM
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