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But you haven't explained why it's wrong for an old company with a low corporate budget to hire a junior when they can't afford a senior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:51 PM
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I promise you there's lots of happy men out there with happy lives that don't have their partner constantly push us to "be better". And why is hiring the junior employee with a lower wage bad again? Is the junior employee supposed to have the same wage as the senior or what? But I feel like we're just going into actual economics here rather than the analogy lol. Why is it hard for you to believe that a lot of men would rather have a junior employee with a lower wage (aka a younger women that req…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:47 AM
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I guess that's a matter of taste but I would hate a partner that CHALLENGES me. Like the last thing I want coming home from work is someone that challenges me lol. No thanks, I like my life with as little challenges as possible. And I don't get the analogy with the employee. I mean I do get it, I just don't see how it applies to my question of why looking for a woman that's easy to impress is bad. Is hiring a junior employee that is ok with a lower wage bad..?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:24 AM
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that then, because I think (and I do speak from experience) that young men are a lot more toxic than older men even when taking the so called power imbalance into account. And also I think it's fine to provide advice to young women based on your lived experiences. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. What I find wrong is this attitude of treating every older man that's dating a younger woman as a de facto weird borderline pedophile creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:13 PM
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Ok, but you hear the exact same horror stories about young men too. Young men also abuse young women, and they also pressure them to do things sexually. I would say they're even worse at that than older men if anything. Young men are like really bad at boundaries. You ask me if I've been in a relationship with an older person. No, I haven't. But I've been a young man and I know I was a much bigger asshole and a significantly worse partner when I was young. And pretty much every man I know would …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:41 PM
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I've always find it funny how women think that a single man in his 30s is trying his absolute hardest to date a woman in her 30s and unfortunately they all reject him (i wonder if this is some revenge fantasy to them) and now because he's so down bad he has to do something any man would definitely hate - date a hot 20yo woman, as some sort of a last resort out of desperation or something. Like how out of touch do you have to be to think like that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:30 PM
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Why in the blue hell would liking that a woman is more agreeable and easier to impress a bad thing though? Why should dating someone be difficult and challenging lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:20 PM
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Who's talking about "taking advantage"? Why is a man dating a younger women de facto taking advantage of her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:58 PM
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And you want us to, quote, "be happy" that a woman is so insecure from her previous relationships that she needs to constantly check my phone to see if I'm cheating on her? Why the fuck would I be happy about that? Why is that a good thing? Is it baffling to you that one would prefer a partner that is not so insecure they need to check their partner's phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:31 PM
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But just because it's not literally 1:1 it doesn't mean it's not silly to expect your man to not watch porn, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:16 PM
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So then why did you disagree with me when I said it would also be silly for a woman to expect their partner to stop watching porn once they're together..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:00 PM
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I agree it's silly to expect your surfing instructor girlfriend to not post swimsuit selfies. But why don't you agree that it's just as silly to expect your man to not watch porn anymore..?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:43 PM
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So she can ask, and there's nothing wrong with asking, but Jonah Hill was wrong for asking..?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:36 PM
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But then she'd be left dating monks and priests and she might not like that very much.. Wouldn't it be easier to just ask this person that she loves to stop doing something she doesn't like..?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:33 PM
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Ok if a woman knows for certain then that this man she's dating does watch porn, is it ok for her to tell him to stop watching it now that they're together? Or is it not ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:22 PM
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I feel like at this point anyone asking these type of questions is not serious or downright trolling, because no man acts surprised women like attractive men. That's literally the point, we know women like attractive men, we've seen this our entire lives, there's nothing shocking about it, we all know this. The only people that pretend women don't like attractive men are other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:54 PM
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Are we really going to pretend women don't know men watch porn..? Like come on now, you're being bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:49 PM
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Then it would be equally silly for a woman to be upset with their man watching porn when she knew he watches porn before she got with him..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:03 AM
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Well what are the actual arguments you presented that explain why men care about how famous women? I must have missed them. Also your premise that pornstars are hotter than actresses is just wrong.. It's not even close. If you ask men who are the hottest women on the planet right now, they'll probably Sydney Sweeney or Jenna Ortega or some supermodel I don't know, they will definitely not say a pornstar. Pornstars are people who are hot, but not hot enough to make it into the more respectable in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:40 PM
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We never had leaks of hollywood superstars before, or at least nothing close to that level. It was taboo, and men will jack off to new taboo shit that's hot. I don't know why you keep assuming people jacked off to Jennifer Lawrence because she's rich and famous lol. Maybe you care about that shit, most of us don't. Also if I had to guess men jack off to pornstars more than leaked nudes of hollywood actresses. Like, a lot more. If your premise is true that we care so much about the social status …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:23 PM
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Hot women are not rare on the internet. You can easily find porn stars that are hotter than Jennifer Lawrence, yet men continued to illegally share her stolen nudes far and wide. Yeah, and men are jacking off to all sorts of hot women on the internet, from pornstars, to onlyfans girls, IG models, and apparently leaked nudes of actresses too. If men cared so much about status why would we be jacking off to pornstars which are hardly looked at as the epitome of success in society.. The implication…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:15 PM
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Wait you think men jacked off to leaked nudes of insert hot celebrity here because they're powerful?! 🤣🤣🤣 Men are jacking off to deep fakes of Sydney Sweeney because she's hot, if we cared about status we'd be jacking off to Meryl Streep instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:58 PM
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What? How does any of that prove that men care about the social status of their dating partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:54 PM
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No because unlike women we don't really care much about the social status of our dating partners. As long as you're pretty, kind and funny, you could be downright homeless for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:44 PM
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Yes, so is it "men" that do that too, or "a lot of guys"? You use them interchangeably, one in the title, one in the post. Just take the L, you misspoke, it's fine, we all do this from time to time. I don't know why you're being so stubborn about this geez. Taking a semantic L on reddit is not this greek tragedy you're making it out to be..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:30 PM
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But then you literally write in your post: Men do that too, especially when it comes to sex. So ironically it seems like you yourself also equivalize between "a lot of guys" and "men"..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:24 PM
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Literally in the title of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:40 PM
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If someone's opinion stopped at "well maybe be a bit cautious" in regards to age gaps then I don't think anyone would have a problem with that. The problem is when there's moralism attached to it, it's people saying a 41yo dating a 29yo is wrong, pathetic, evil or whatever. It reeks of the same bigotry people were making in the 50s in regards to interracial marriage, there were never any reasonable arguments against it, it was all "it's just wrong", "we don't do things like that around here" etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:48 AM
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Should we have accepted people were gonna have "comments" about interracial relationships as well..? Or is it nice that we've decided as a society to consider those "comments" bigoted and not very cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:41 AM
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That's only because people usually just marry the people that are familiar to them. If you spend most of your life surrounded by professional women, you'll probably marry one. It's not because they just hate baristas or something, they just don't interact with them a lot. If the professional man in this case was like a manager at a starbucks or something, I think the chances of marrying that mythical barista skyrocket because most men would definitely give a hot, kind and cool 20yo barista a cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:06 AM
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Well perhaps you could use that critical thought of yours to explain how exactly does knowing that massive objects such as planets warp the fabric of spacetime creating curves and when other objects move through these curves they produce an effect we call gravity improve our lives in any way..?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:17 PM
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I'm happy that you know why gravity happens, but the vast majority of people on this planet, I'd say more than 99%, could not explain why gravity happens. And nor is that information relevant to anyone's life. Unless you're a physicist, knowing why gravity happens will not change or improve your life in any way shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:07 PM
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Why does any of this matter though? As long as we recognize that it's a bias, then why does it matter why the bias exists? I can probably come up with some academic speak for why people like tall people more, but that doesn't mean the bias towards tall people is fair or justifiable. It's wrong. So is the "women are wonderful" bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:53 PM
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On top of that they also frame their expectations as just normal basic things but men's expectations as weird and outlandish
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:33 PM
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Well in my opinion those families shouldn't even exist in the first place. Why would you start a family with someone that's not even close to perfect for you and someone that you need to work on a relationship with..? Ironically if people followed my advice there would be less broken families not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:10 PM
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I don't think I understand what you're trying to say. What I'm saying is a random young woman could be a horrible person so I'm not willing to take that chance. Meanwhile my wife but younger, sure she might be more immature or whatever, but I reckon she'd still be a pretty nice person..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:49 PM
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Why would it be the same? There's a huge difference between your girlfriend but younger vs a random young woman..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:33 PM
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Both, definitely. If it was just physically I'm pretty sure any man will say yes, unless they have a milf fetish of sorts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:17 PM
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Nah, I disagree, she might not need to be literally perfect, but she should be pretty close to it. She should be someone I would just enjoy living with because I simply like her for who she is and that's it, neither of us should have to go out of our way to make the relationship work. I want someone that I don't need to "change", neither do I want to be "changed" by my partner. I'd quite literally rather be single than have to make all this effort in order to make a relationship work. Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:28 PM
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I mean it's going to be only men in shitty relationships that will answer yes to that question. No man in a happy relationship will swap his gf/wife with a random woman, no matter how young she is. That sounds like a disaster lol A more interesting question would be: would you trade your current gf/wife for a younger version of her? As in time travel. I think the answers in that case would be way more split.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:22 PM
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I mean he either doesn't want to upset you (a lot of men will do this) or he's into fat chicks because 100kg at 5'1 is a lot. Most men would definitely not call that "curvy". I'm giving you this cold because it feels like you already know it's a lot so I hope it doesn't offend you. Also very unhealthy for that matter because your BMI is over 40 so you're obese class 3, and evolutionarily speaking it would make no sense for men to be into unhealthy bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:45 PM
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it's not literally "disallowing", it's just that you think men complaining about shitty women is silly, while women complaining about shitty men is not silly..? unless you of course think that's silly as well, in which case we don't disagree at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:58 PM
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yeah, I agree with everything you said now. but this is contradictory to your original comment in which you've said, quote, "whoever wants something more should work harder for it." you didn't say they should date someone else, you said they should work harder. so a woman should clean the house more if she wants a cleaner house.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:57 PM
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no i in fact don't want to date shitty women. same way you don't want to date shitty men I imagine. again, why are women allowed to complain about shitty men and men aren't? why is one silly and the other isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:53 PM
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so when it was about men wanting something more the men should just work harder for it, but when it's about women wanting something more well they shouldn't work harder for it they just shouldn't be with someone that doesn't want the same things as they do, or want them as much as they do..? what.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:45 PM
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if women can complain about shitty men then why can't men complain about shitty women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:43 PM
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Yes but taking another up job that they don't like to do in exchange for mopping is not a "compromise". Neither is getting a housekeeper. A compromise means both sides concede something, the woman in this case is not conceding anything. She's getting exactly what she wants, while the man is working more than he wants. And again, I understand that the standard should be whatever the higher standard is from the two people (more often than not the woman's). What I'm saying is that women should unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:04 PM
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this is a banger post lol, I never thought bout this. i've even seen women that are somehow engaging in both of these mindsets simultaneously even though they are contradictory to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:53 PM
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should women clean up the house more if they want the house cleaner than the man does? should women organize and plan dates more because they want dates more than men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:39 PM
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women also like to play this schrodinger's date game where somehow 1) the cost of a date is very low and negligible but also 2) god forbid a woman chip in on that very low cost, that would be outrageous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:36 PM
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But like I've said, there's no compromise when it comes to cleaning standards. There's no mediation. The higher standards need to be established, because the person with the higher standards will feel really bad living in a house that's disgusting according to their standards. So to go back to the mopping example, if we were to only mop the floor once a month, the person that wanted it mopped every week (the woman) will feel really disgusted by the floor for 3 weeks out of 4. There's no compromi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:48 AM
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But there's no compromise when it comes to cleaning standards. The higher standards are enacted (which usually are hold by the woman), because it's obviously worse for a person to live in a messier house than desired, than it is for a person to live in a cleaner house than desired. So if a woman wants the floor mopped every week and the man wants it every month, the floor must be mopped every week lol, because the woman would hate living in a house that would be considered a mess by her standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:17 AM
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you can find them funny, kink shaming is not finding something funny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:29 PM
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why would they have to be the exact same in order for you to be a decent person and not judge someone for literally no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:26 PM
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yes you can actually lol. if we couldn't do that everyone would be just as racist sexist and overall bigoted as they were hundreds of years ago believe it or not you can indeed stop harshly judging people for literally no good reason
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:22 PM
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no it was not popular with only "younger girls", unless by younger girls you mean anyone who was not geriatric and was able to get their ass to the cinema. it was literally the most popular movie ever until avatar. everyone watched titanic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:12 PM
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literally anything that you'd talk with someone in their 30s or whatever your age is..? like idk why people act like someone in their 20s is like a different species or something. like what exactly can't you talk with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:06 PM
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not when it's a kink that's not hurting anybody lol what is this the kink inquisition?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:02 PM
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that's interesting because I personally think it's the exact opposite, younger women tend to be more wild and free while older women do a lot of things just because that's "how things are supposed to be"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:56 PM
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But we know you don't apply this "well it's an active choice they're making" crap when it's women that make some.. uhm.. certain choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:34 PM
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Men can only dream of having "low quality" sex on demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:22 PM
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Considering deviance means outside the norm and I hope you can agree most men do watch porn, then how could it possibly be sexual deviance? If anything not watching porn is sexual deviance. And also most men definitely don't have a problem with women watching porn. We understand lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:24 PM
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Yeah I indeed don't understand how someone else's clothes at a party can make you feel better lol You are very easy to please I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:15 PM
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Doesn't want to date a sexually deviant man, and also doesnt want a man that watches porn. Make it have sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:58 PM
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Why the fuck would some dude's clothes make you feel better/worse at a party? What.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:50 PM
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I think men might be technically even more picky than women when it comes to attraction, BUT, men have so few options we are willing to compromise a hell of a lot more, so in practice we are not as picky. It just makes sense for your attraction to be more "narrow" when you have thousands of men willing to drag themselves through glass to sniff your farts, you need some strong filtering to deal with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 09:19 AM
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I'm not doing anything either, I'm just looking at someone. If you can't handle being looked at when you're in public maybe you should lock yourself into a basement or something
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:08 AM
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If you can't see the irony of saying your body is nobody else's business while simultaneously telling men what to do with their body I don't think I can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:22 PM
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What does that have to do with anything? Do you finally agree women do have a problem with how men use their eyes (aka their body) or are you still being obtuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:20 PM
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Literally this comment thread includes women saying men must have some self control and not leer at women. Not that you'd need to check out this comment thread to know this is a very common position among women, you just need to not be bad faith and pretend women are not actually offended by how men use their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:51 PM
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A lot of women seem to have a problem with how men use their eyes, including some in this very thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:45 PM
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And my eyes are also part of my body and therefore nobody's business but my own..? Or this rule only applies to women for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:33 PM
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Probably because it's unfortunately still frowned upon
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:47 PM
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I never said women don't compromise, they do compromise too. They just compromise less. Women have more choices, men have less so they'll compromise more. It's unfortunate but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:37 PM
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If men never compromised when it comes to dating most men would be single right now. Unless you think all these women that men are dating are all perfect angels or something..?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:11 PM
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I agree women should never lower their standards, but I disagree that men don't compromise. They compromise all the time. All. the. time. The "men fuck anything that moves" stereotype is there for a reason. So it's not women that should lower their standards, it's men that should up their standards and stop giving toxic women attention because they're thinking with their dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:08 PM
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Nope, not really, because even if I love you right now I can't guarantee I'll still love you 50 years from now on so I can't take that oath in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:13 PM
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Absolute prime would probably between 18-24. Then there's a slight decrease until 28, then a more significant decrease until 35, and after that it's pretty much over for me at least. I don't think I've ever met a woman over 35 that was attractive to me. And I'm talking normal women IRL, not the 35 yo hollywood actresses with filters, perfect makeup and surgeries, those don't count. I'm 29 for the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:06 AM
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I'm sure the T levels are a big factor, but we can't do anything about that except forced T shots lol. Meanwhile we could stop slut shaming. Not only is that just the morally right thing to do, but it would also benefit men so it's a win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:25 PM
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Well for one men should stop shaming women for sleeping around. I've always find it ironic how incels complain they can't get laid while slut shaming the women that sleep around. Like you're lowering your own chances by doing that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:59 PM
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I completely agree. That's why I think sex is primordial in a relationship and if the woman starts being frigid the man should leave immediately and find a better partner
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:01 PM
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I think something people don't mention when talking about this is that people in general will have a very biased view of their ex. So if someone says their ex was an abusive asshole you should probably take that with a grain of salt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:31 PM
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Because we quite literally can't implicitly understand that when women explicitly deny it..?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:49 PM
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But you can be ambitious in ways that have nothing to do with your job. Not sure why ambition and having a well paid job are synonymous in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 04:02 PM
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I didnt think this needed to be said again. And I can't believe we need to this say again either: the problem is not that women are going for chad just because of his looks, the problem is not admitting it and pretending it's acshually the personality that matters and that's what women care about. Like just say you wanna fuck hot dudes. I don't know why it's so hard for women to just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:14 PM
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There is no "male loneliness epidemic", that's just a buzzword made to fuel the gender wars. Everyone is getting more lonely, not just men. In fact, women report feeling slightly more lonely than men. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1420227/loneliness-among-adults-us-by-gender/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:28 PM
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So you've never heard of women venting to their partners, asking to validate their feelings, asking for reassurances, projecting their insecurities and like a bazilion other things? There's basically downright stereotypes of this shit. Any man has experienced this. Saying you just don't see this happening is borderline gaslighting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:45 PM
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Yep, that's an amazing piece of evidence right there I'll now counter you with the handful of comments I've read of women saying their partners should validate their feelings when venting and provide reassurances when asked. Now we're in a duel of reddit anecdotes. En garde.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:20 PM
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Well what proof do you have? You're the one that made the post, you should be providing something and not asking others that don't agree with you to do so lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:57 PM
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The problem is the term has expanded so much and it's used in so many different ways nobody knows what the fuck it means anymore. I heard ppl say it means acting like a therapist for your partner, which would make sense considering it's called "emotional labor", but there's others that say it also means making reservations or grocery lists, and I have no idea what any of that has to do with "emotions". That's just.. labor. Etymology aside, I do find it ironic how men have provided "emotional lab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:50 PM
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Why does it matter what they call it? It's just semantics at this point. They didn't want a "relationship" but they wanted more of whatever they have now. If they wanna call it a "relationship" or not is basically irrelevant. They wanted more, they didn't get more, they broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:14 AM
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So someone wanted more out of whatever relationship they were having, the other party said no so they broke up. What the fuck is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:53 AM
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so do you also have a negative view of black people because black people are not going out of their way to stop any crime commited by a black person? or does this logic only apply to men for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 04:03 PM
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Sure, and so is appealing to "ugh its weird"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:18 PM
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It's not average only if you count the 70yo boomers that married 50 years ago in a shotgun wedding. For men below 30 all stats show that it is in fact average to struggle in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 11:05 PM
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I think the word itself doesn't imply you're attracted to them, but this whole debate started from OP saying quote "You can find someone attractive.." and I think "finding someone attractive" definitely implies you're attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:49 PM
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Highly conditional, really? Is this supposed to be a list of some colossal challenges? Ignoring the obvious hyperboles, it's basically don't get fat, don't nag and have sex lol. If that was all men had to do we'd be in heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:24 PM
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The point is "shallow" is completely subjective. Some would consider not dating fat people "shallow", but for me I would literally not be able to have sex with a fat person without vomiting probably. Like I am literally physically repulsed by the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:21 PM
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Bless you with her time dude, duh..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:16 PM
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Yeah but you treat people that you already love and care for, not people that you barely know (or not even know at all sometimes). And also I think the main problem is the expectation, if my friends EXPECTED me to treat them, I would be turned off by that, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:14 PM
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Not surprised by the reactions of this subreddit considering there's a lot of.. uhm, older people here. If you ask the younger generation about this I feel like the responses would be a lot more positive, even right now they're already using AI chatbots a lot and they're not even close to being realistic so I can only imagine how popular they'd be when they become the "perfect synthetic companion".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:13 PM
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Because we'd instill in them a sexual attraction towards humans, similar to how whoever or whatever created us gave us a sexual orientation. I'm a straight man, and no matter how much I'd want to be gay, I will always be attracted to women and that's that, I can't do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:08 PM
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Victims? What are they being victimized by? People looking at them..? Well damn if you truly believe that's victimhood, then you must surely agree with a law that forbids men from looking at women then? That'd be the best way to "look out" for these victims no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:16 PM
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Well I'd say trying to dictate what people can look at in public is even less nice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:05 PM
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True, and if you wanna wear skimpy clothes by all means. Just don't be surprised when people look at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:03 PM
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I don't know why we're even talking about "need" in the context of what you need to survive, when the context should be relationships. Yes, to most people believe it or not, sex is a "need" in a relationship, similar to how telling each others love you, or going on dates, or spending quality time with one another is a "need". You might not die without some of these things, but a relationship will almost certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:30 AM
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And you think they'd do that if they could get pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:25 AM
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Considering sex is basically the only thing that you can only get from an intimate partner and no one else (except hookers I guess), why shouldn't sexual compatibility be one of the most important things in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:09 AM
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Or we'd just use one of the million contraception methods out there..?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:57 AM
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In the comment that you've replied to... in their personal VR utopias with android waifus and husbandos
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:27 PM
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Why would wanting your penis simulated make you a bad person lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:58 PM
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Why wouldn't someone want to have a child while living in a utopia..?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:53 PM
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It's insane how whenever a woman does something nice for their boyfriend they're being a pickme. Like the concept of a woman just being nice and caring is baffling to some people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:35 PM
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The problem is that just because they have a different preference compared to the average woman then you assume it must mean they're mentally ill or something. Maybe they just have a different preference and that's it..? If a man prefers short hair on a woman is he mentally ill too?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:31 PM
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And you'd just pity her and not moralize and call her a bad person or anything like that if she's dating a 20yo.. right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:23 PM
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I mean your person reaction could indeed be one of disgust, but surely you must understand you're not the norm, right? You've never met women that have a crush on these hollywood superstars? Isn't he actually dating someone in their 20s lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:58 PM
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I would disagree with that, but even so, they can prefer Timothee Chalamet and still not be viscerally disgusted by 44yo Chris Evans despite him being gasp double their age lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:34 PM
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The point is you don't have a visceral disgusting reaction to old people because they're old (like you've implied), but because they're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:28 PM
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I mean you first ask a very general question about men/women and then you proceed to talk about things that I at least hope you realize are very, very specific things about you specifically, because I promise you women do care about a man's weight and they definitely don't have a "visceral disgust reaction" to an older man that's actually attractive. If you think the average 20yo woman looks at 44yo Chris Evans in disgust idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:23 PM
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Whatever man you're literally ignoring me as I've never denied psychologists don't study social isolation. They do, they just don't come to the absurd conclusion of "isolation inherently causes x y z" but instead say "isolation can lead to x y z" Have a good one, I feel like I'm wasting my time with someone so bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:42 PM
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You're not giving me anything. Going after your so called paper trail leads me to psychologists talking about the risks of social isolation, correlations and connections. Not absolutes, not inherently anything. And that would be obvious to anyone that has read like any study ever, no scientist would talk in these terms ever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:28 PM
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Yeah cool whatever, if you're just going to keep talking non sense without providing anything then I'll just assume you're arguing in bad faith or just stubborn to say yes I was assuming these things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:22 PM
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Why don't you instead just give me these mythical studies that say everything you said is quote, "inherently true" Idk why you keep insisting that's a thing lol, obviously a psychologist saying "that's inherently true" in regards to anything would be absurd. They talk about correlations while you assume absolutes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:16 PM
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They're not all true, or inherently true, or whatever you're trying to say here. You keep using scientific terms and reference studies (without actually linking them or anything btw) so you should be aware that no study would make a claim of "this is inherently true" but instead talk about how there's a correlation, or something is more likely to happen based on x y and z. And based on that higher likelihood you assume it's all inherently true.. somehow Meanwhile if I was to reference a study th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:08 PM
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First of all you're also assuming all those things about late bloomers, nothing you've said is quote "inherently true". But also if it being gendered is what makes it a problem, then is it ok to assume older people in general are more likely to have baggage? And for that reason one could prefer dating someone younger with less baggage..?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:41 PM
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Why is it ok to assume late bloomers have baggage but unfair to assume older women have baggage? Also you can't say you're ok with age gaps and literally next sentence say age gaps with women in their early 20s is unacceptable lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:14 PM
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Is it okay to not want to date older women because they have baggage?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:09 PM
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Oh I see, older men having "baggage" is bad, but older women having "baggage" well now you're just being misogynistic. Crazy how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:53 PM
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And if they weren't? We should stop buying tv's and videogames and like.. everything else that brings us some joy in this life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:47 AM
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Oh yeah I'm sure, you definitely seem like a very sexual person when you're completely baffled by the concept of having sexual fantasies about someone you have a crush on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:34 AM
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Whatever, if you think masturbating to people you have a crush on is some absurd behavior then I just think you should touch some grass or get a sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:25 AM
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What desperation..? What the hell is wrong with masturbating to the photos of people you're attracted to lol That's very common behavior. It's also very common with women, because they tend to not use porn that much but instead fantasies about people they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:22 AM
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..you thought masturbating to people you find attractive is some sexual deviancy of 4chan level?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:14 AM
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You finished puberty in your early teens...?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:50 AM
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If you're going by a binary system of either kid or mature, then yeah, a 20yo would be mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:49 AM
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You keep saying the behavior itself is a red flag, but the reason you consider it a red flag is because of preconceived notions. Like right now you just assumed they have nothing in common, how would you know that? You don't know that, you just assume because of your preconceived notions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:13 AM
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He's seeking out the women he's attracted to. Why would this be questionable behavior to you..?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:02 AM
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Yeah, and you shouldn't call someone a thief until you see him actually leave the store without going to the register because just putting a chocolate bar in your pocket because your hands are full for example is fine. But still, in your analogy you're actually witnessing something, and not just going by your preconceived notions about a certain group of people. The better analogy here would be assuming the black person that entered the store will steal because the statistics say they are more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:41 AM
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The group that's stereotyped here is older men that date younger women by assuming they must be doing something bad to those women This is basically like a racist saying oh I don't hate black people I just hate that they steal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:27 AM
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Honestly I don't know what you're trying to say here. No, there is not only one type of an older man who wants to date young women, there's obviously multiple types. Some are good, some are bad. But.. that was my point all along. So again I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here, because to me it looks like you're just agreeing with me..?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:16 AM
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You can stereotype certain groups of men, you don't have to generalize the entire 4 billions of men in order for something to be considered a stereotype. This is like saying college women are all sluts can't be a stereotype because not all women are in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:54 AM
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Ok, I don't know the statistics, but I'm sure there is one ethnicity that commits more domestic violence than others as it would be almost statistically impossible for all races to have the exact same rate of domestic violence. Would you then moralize and warn someone against dating people from that ethnicity because it would be, quote, problematic? No of course not, that would be bigoted as hell because again, it's almost like stereotyping an entire group of people is wrong..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:30 AM
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You still haven't given me an example of a non affirmative consent in the context of a relationship. What would that be? Child marriages in Afghanistan? Feels like you're just using random buzzwords. And yes, I've already said we assume the consent is informed. Because uninformed consent is.. not consent. The younger person does know the older person is richer, more powerful, more experienced etc. They are aware of all of this. Why is their consent invalid?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:58 PM
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I mean you were the one being disingenuous in the first place. Obviously consent would imply "affirmative" and "informed". How could a person even consent in a non-affirmative manner to date someone else..? What the hell does that even mean? Tell me. It feels like for whatever reason you're shying away from saying "yes two people that consent to be in a relationship is always ok", implying we should actually interfere and moralize the business of two consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 09:14 PM
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Ok, so anything goes as long as there's "affirmative and informed" consent then..? (i don't even know what the fuck affirmative would even mean in this context but ok)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 09:09 PM
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Interracial marriages also have a higher tendency to end up in divorce for example, but nobody is moralizing over it. It's almost like it's wrong to generalize an entire demographic of people based on some uptick in something bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 09:02 PM
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But you're talking personality, when we're talking appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:46 AM
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What makes you think it's a loud minority? Almost every man I know agrees young women in their early 20s are the most attractive, physically at least. It kind of just, makes sense, early 20s is that age where you are fully grown but you show no signs of aging yet, which are almost universally deemed unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:40 AM
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Well, there you go, the reason why people compliment you all the time is because you look you're still in your early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:26 AM
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What about fine lines and wrinkles?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:12 AM
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Because the younger 23yo woman looks better than the "phenomenal" looking 50 year old one..? I don't know, does this really need to be explained? Why would you be shocked people think a woman in their 20s looks better than one in their 50s lol Also you just had I think a Freudian slip in your first sentence. You said your body looks better now at 32, implying your face doesn't, and I would say even though most men love to yap about boobs and asses, it's still the face that's the important featur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:07 AM
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Yes, but you will be able to have sex with the people you do desire much more easily than a man would be able to have sex with the people he desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:17 AM
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Unless some sort of genetic catastrophe happened in your body, then you should desire sex..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:33 PM
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One of the most delusional concepts women came with is this idea that when you're in a relationship your partner is or at least should be "the most attractive person in the world". Unless you're dating Sydney Sweeney or Chris Hemsworth, then there will always someone hotter than your partner, and the sooner women admit that the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:22 PM
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The idea that it's men that "care about their reputation" the most, and women are taught to not give a fuck from a young age... like, really? You must have been raised in an alternate dimension or something Even your example of boys lying about sleeping with you in high school is absurd lol, most girls would absolutely care about that. And they'd care a lot. I feel like you're either the coolest person in the world or you're just lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 12:12 PM
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If being attracted to young women makes you a creep then I guess the vast majority of men are creeps. Who am I kidding, you probably unironically believe a majority of men are indeed creeps lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:54 AM
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We still going with the prefrontal cortex mumbo jumbo I see. Doesn't matter that shit was debunked like ten thousand times, you'll never let go of it because it justifies your weird beliefs I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:50 AM
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Idk what "maliciously" means in this context, but I've heard a lot of women say "guy was amazing and I def wanted to have sex during first/second/third date, but I declined because I didn't want him to think I'm easy". Idk if that counts as "malicious", but this sentiment is very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:45 PM
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Yeah I said they should keep taking care of their children in response to someone proposing they stop taking care of their children. You concluding that means I think women should take 100% care of their children is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:27 PM
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They shouldn't have to do it all. When did I imply otherwise lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:20 PM
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When did I say it's not important or that men should not concern themselves with them..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:28 PM
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No they should keep doing that. Just don't pretend you do it because the CPS will come and take your child otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:11 PM
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It was literally half the list. And the only thing on that list that would make someone call CPS is not planning the meals and the kid literally starving to death. That's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:17 PM
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Yeah I don't know what that dude is talking about. No man has ever said no to a supermodel because they want a "looksmatched" woman instead lol that's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:25 PM
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Half of the shit you said is just planning vacations/dates/holidays etc. No, nobody's going to call CPS for not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:20 PM
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So let me get this straight, if your partner goes and fucks someone else, that doesn't make you insecure, if your partner just jacks off to someone else, that will make you insecure..? It's the first time I've ever heard someone say this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:59 PM
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So is it the mechanical twisting of the penis in the absence of your presence that bothers you..? Because I thought it's the he wishes to fuck other women part that bothered you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:34 PM
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Sexual arousal towards someone means you want to fuck them, that's how it works. I don't know how you can say in the same sentence that you're ok with a man being aroused by others but them wishing to fuck others is a no-no. That's just contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:24 PM
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Well stay doomed I guess, it's your choice to wait for this mythical prince charming that is somehow able to alter his biological wiring in order to induce himself a sexual agnosia whenever a hot woman enters his vision. Not sure it's very healthy to be perpetually insecure but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:09 PM
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But what does the fantasies of your partner have to do with you as a person? Why would you feel lesser because your partner thought about Sydney Sweeney last week..? By that definition you'll be perpetually insecure till the end of time, because there's no man that doesn't have at least some sexual desire towards Sydney Sweeney (or insert some other sexy bombshell here). To expect a man to be aroused by you and only you is not only impossible, but like extremely arrogant, it would imply you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:56 PM
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Ok but are you going to explain why would it make you feel insecure or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:46 PM
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I mean I don't have a problem with my partner jacking off to Brad Pitt, he's clearly very handsome, I'd probably jack off to him too if I was attracted to him. It's already a lot that in a monogamous relationship we tend to have a monopoly on each other's sexuality in the physical sense, now we expect a monopoly on each other's fantasies too? Each other's thoughts..? Waaay too controlling if you ask me. But again, can you articulate why exactly are you insecure about your partner watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:25 PM
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Rather than having us explain why it shouldn't make you insecure, maybe you should explain why it would make you insecure in the first place..? Like I don't know, if my partner says "daym brad pitt is so hot" when watching a movie I don't lose my mind over it, because.. yeah I can see that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:17 AM
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You my dude, you're the one that was talking about "treatment". If every woman you look at, you immediately determine the level of if you want yo have sec with them and then how you treat them (or ignore them) is based on their fuckablity Maybe dudes would get what the fuck you're trying to say if you were a little more articulate about it. Or if you at least remembered what the hell you were typing in your previous comment, I don't think it's that much of an ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:25 PM
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The only difference being.. the marketing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:18 PM
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Treating someone differently because they're attractive is literally universal lol, there's like a bazillion studies on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:02 PM
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Yeah, I agree, most women are looking for a good man, who they like as an individual, and whom they are attracted to. No debate there. But that is different from saying most women are looking for a man that just doesn't abuse or cheat, isn't it? It's funny that we probably agree with each other on this, but for some reason you refuse to admit the original thing you've said was simply absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:04 PM
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No, that's the thing, we weren't talking about the minimum standard, if that was the case I'd agree with you. Not being abusive and not cheating is indeed the bare minimum. But we were talking about a "high value man", like the literal opposite of the minimum standard. And in case you've forgotten, this is what you've said: By high value, you mean a guy who isn’t abusive and doesn’t lie and cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:26 PM
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I'd argue they want some other things on top of that, things like emotional availability, competence, intelligence, kindness, sensitivity, communication skills, sense of humor etc etc. But anyway, do notice how you've still an added an entire paragraph of things they want on top of the "just don't be abusive and don't cheat" thing you've said that was our only point of contention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:13 PM
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Ok, but you don't have to go to the other extreme and pretend all women want is a man that is not abusive and doesn't cheat and that's it. Obviously that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:52 PM
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What in the blue hell does what some weirdos say on this subreddit have to do with the reality we live in? Or what, you're actually going to pretend finding a man that is "not abusive and doesn't cheat" is some sort of rarity of mythological proportions IRL? If all it took for a man to be high value is to not abuse or cheat I'd be a fucking Casanova right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:39 PM
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If that was indeed their standard they'd be able to find a man pretty quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:33 PM
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If people just said this, that age gap relationships are more likely to end in divorce, then it would be fine. But they go way beyond that, it's the whole moralizing shit that's off-putting. Similarly, interracial relationships are also much more likely to end in divorce, but you don't hear anyone have a problem with those maybe because generalizing an entire demographic might be bigoted or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:54 AM
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Am I your cousin?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:53 AM
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It doesn't look bad at all. If you had some empathy, ironically, the first thing that you'd think when your partner doesn't respond to your messages during the day is wonder if something happened to them. Did they get into an accident? Did someone steal their phone? What happened?! But you, apparently, go straight to "he must be cheating on me" and therefore crashout, scream at him, and then yap about having empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:00 PM
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For everyone who's not familiar with the phone story referenced by OP, it's a story in which a man forgets to charge his phone, and according to OP that makes it totally justifiable for the woman to have a crashout and scream at him because he wasn't able to text her the entire day. And supposedly that influenced OP to make this post about empathy, because I guess if we had some empathy we'd understand just how absolutely terrible it must feel for someone to not get a text for an entire day and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:13 PM
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You should be the one explaining why anyone would choose to be in a relationship with someone that does not want to have sex, because that just does not make any sense to us mortal beings. If we get along really well as you say, then we'll just be really close friends, and that's it. Why would I be in an intimate relationship with this person?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:50 PM
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So how are men able to do this then? Live off jobs that are supposedly not enough to live off of? And it's not just men either for that matter, most women who are in this situation also keep working these low wage jobs, it's only a small minority of them that decide to do sex work. Sex workers are a very small percentage of the working population after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:00 PM
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Unless literally sex trafficked, every sex worker has access to "other options". It's just that those options don't pay nowhere near as much for as little skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:12 PM
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I don’t care what sex workers want as they aren’t the majority and shouldn’t try to force their services onto people like a Jehovah’s Witness cult member. But they're not forcing their services onto anyone..? You do understand sex work legalization doesn't mean the government now forces everyone to buy the services of a prostitute, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:07 PM
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I mean it's a simple answer, if they post only for "their friends and themselves" then their IG has to be private, if it's public then they obviously don't post only for "their friends and themselves".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:13 PM
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You should be the one speaking for yourself because you're the exception here. Yeah believe it or not most people would fuck someone that's very hot even if they're not gonna see them again. Especially men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:09 PM
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I don't think OP's point is about the rating system itself, but about the existence of a spectrum, yeah maybe most men don't necessarily go "oh she's a 9" in his head when they see someone very hot, but surely you must agree that most men can absolutely differentiate between someone who's hot and someone who's very hot or someone who's just slightly hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:36 AM
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I didn't say that, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:46 PM
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Why would I be on a list? I live in a country where the age of consent is 16 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:07 PM
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Gamers tend to be very passionate about games, sometimes a bit too passionate, I genuinely don't know what you're talking about lol. Where is this "gamers play games simply out of boredom and not because they find them interesting and creative" idea coming from..?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:29 PM
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But just to be clear, it's not just goals/hobbies, it's specifically goals/hobbies that are female-oriented. Because god forbid a man have something like gaming or fishing as a hobby, nah that's just unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:24 PM
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Most hobbies, or at least the creative ones are "escapism" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:18 PM
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Then yes, I agree, a large number of men are technically attracted to "pubescent children" specifically the ones at the end of puberty that look near identical to adults. Yeah, I agree. We don't disagree on anything then. Where's my contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:12 PM
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Can you just tell me what your argument is and we can go from there? I'm genuinely confused because we're basically merging two discussions from two different threads into one and I simply don't understand what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:50 PM
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Pedophilia is attraction to prepubescence, that is the definition of it, period. That's bad, and everyone agrees that's bad. Hebephilia is attraction to people in early puberty. That's also bad, and I've never defended that, I don't know why you're assuming I've ever defended that because I haven't. Ephebophilia is attraction to people in late puberty, or even post puberty. Again, specifically, 15 to 19. That's what I've defended. I don't know what you want me to do with this 12-17 age range you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:52 PM
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You seem to think that ephebophilia means attraction to pubescent children, but you're wrong, that's not what it means though. It's specifically attraction to 15-19.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:35 PM
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I've seen people defend ephebophilia, yeah. I've seen people defend it here, I've seen sexologists and psychiatrists defend it in their papers as well. In fact in academia there seems to be a consensus that ephebophilia is normal and not a paraphilia, unlike, you know, pedophilia. Also societies in general seem to accept ephebophilia, considering the age of consent in basically every country allows for it to happen. I'll defend it too, I don't think there's anything wrong with being attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:52 PM
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Yeah partners should do things for one another in general, but not for something that I think is fundamental to a relationship. In my opinion in a healthy relationship there should be a baseline sexual attraction between two partners, no one should have to do THINGS in order to be desired by their partner, that should be inherent in a relationship. Similar to how you want to TALK to your partner, or KISS them, or HUG them, regardless of them doing things for you in that particular day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:03 PM
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Yeah, I agree, and if that happens the two people should break up, the man should a find a woman that does not need sexual texts to have some sexual desire for their partner, and the woman should find a man that is willing to do everything she needs in order to have that sexual desire. That to me seems a much better outcome than a man staying in a relationship constantly having to do things he doesn't want to do just so he can have the privilege of experiencing sexual desire from their sexual pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:20 PM
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well I guess you're doing a very good job because I for one have never seen someone defend pedophilia, as in, sex with prepubescent children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:18 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:01 PM
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I was just explaining why a lot of men are not sending those sexy texts even though technically they wouldn't take much effort
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 11:48 AM
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On an effort scale doing things that you want to do even though technically more taxing will feel easier than doing things you don't want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 11:36 AM
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If people were actually defending rape and pedophilia here the subreddit itself would be banned lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:17 AM
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Actual rape and pedophilia? Or the new reddit-exclusive flavour of pedophilia which is just an older man dating a younger woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:08 AM
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Yeah, sure, we can include 12 to 15 if you want, my point stands. Evolutionally speaking it would be a genetic catastrophe for most men to be most attracted to that age range. These are people that haven't even finished puberty. Also we can look at history, we know these sort of relationships were frowned upon even when they were legal. So yeah I understand not calling all men predators is an impossible challenge to some of you, and it bothers you when I'm explaining how you're wrong, but whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:32 PM
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Very few people watch child porn, sex tourism doesn't necessarily have to be related to pedophilia, and very few men sexually harass 12yos. So yeah, I stand confident in saying very few men would be going for 12yos, even if legal. From an evolutionary perspective it's basically impossible for that sort of attraction to be common.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:24 PM
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Going after young girls is indeed predatory. Going after young women is ok though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:08 PM
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Sure, that's also the "argument" any normal human being gives as well. We are all attracted to whoever we're attracted to lol, I don't know how you can even disagree with that. The difference between us normal people and pedophiles is that we don't inherently hurt the people we want to have sex with. That's literally the only difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:05 PM
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i mean sulking. I guess my assumption was correct after all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:00 PM
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I see it all the time, and I just assumed you were one of them because you said "most men don't understand what SA looks like". If I assumed wrong then I apologize, but I do hear the "men sulking after being rejected and then his GF feels bad and 'gives in' and that's tantamount to rape" take all the time. It's extremely prevalent on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:58 PM
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when you extend the SA definition to include stuff like men sulking after being rejected then yeah, many men won't be on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:51 PM
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Maybe OP doesn't find old women beautiful..?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:46 PM
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It is a preference, and it just happens to be one shared by most men. Most men like young women, yes. I don't know why you'd bring "principles" in this whole discussion. There's nothing "principled" about who you are physically attracted to. Nobody actually chooses who they're attracted to, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:45 PM
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I don't think many men would go for 12 yos no matter what the law says 16-17yos perhaps, but that's the age of consent in basically most of the world including Europe. And also including the US for that matter, only like 10 states or so have it at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:42 PM
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you literally called it the pedo convo lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:41 PM
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I mean you say that men choose not to have this "boundary", but this entire thread was started by you talking about men not planning dates, so it seems like a lot of men are choosing to have this boundary..? Unless I'm misunderstanding your point..?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:49 PM
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I agree, and that's why a lot of men are not even trying anymore. I know this is a dating sub so everyone here is obviously obsessed with dating and considers it the primordial goal in life, but some people just don't care that much about it. Or at least they don't care enough to completely change their lives and put it lots of work when they can just get a dog or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:24 PM
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Sorry to barge in on this 1 on 1 conversation you're having, but I don't think you understand his point. You said that a woman will NOT plan dates in the beginning just so she can see if the man will plan the dates himself aka if he's a manchild or not. And his point is: why doesn't this apply to men too? A man could also NOT plan dates in the beginning to see if the woman is a child or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:14 PM
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I mean that's up to each person, for some people change might be good, for some it might not. And if someone does not want to socialize because they want to avoid pressure and anxiety, then what exactly is wrong with that? You're saying that like it's something "to fix", but I think we all tend to avoid pressure and anxiety as much as possible. I reckon that the people that are ok with socializing will socialize, and the people that are not ok with it will not. Simple as. So your proposition tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:15 PM
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Going from asocial to social I would say is a pretty fundamental change, I would indeed call it "changing who you are". It's definitely not some small thing. And yeah, my point is, if you don't care a lot about relationships you shouldn't change who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:09 PM
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When you proposed that people should get into social circles to get dates, which is like, the point of your entire post. Clearly they don't want to do that, so in order to do that, they'd need to change something about themselves, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:59 PM
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Yeah, I think I agree, but only if you care a lot about being in a relationship. Otherwise changing so much about you, literally a fundamental change of your identity, is simply not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:53 PM
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I mean maybe I'm wrong but isn't fishing like a 4 to 6 hours thing? I don't think anyone goes fishing for literally an entire day. I wouldn't have a problem with my partner being gone 4 to 6 hours even if it happens every weekend. As long as they're returning the favor obviously and letting me have my own free time as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:25 PM
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It's a bad mindset to not allow your husband to have a hobby because "he spends time away from you"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:59 PM
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If you genuinely believe that every normie woman gets treated like a fucking queen by every single man they've ever dated you must be delusional. Like go talk to other women, they'll tell you, that shit is absolutely not the norm. Now if you're indeed someone that received princess treatment their whole life, then like I've said good for you, you must be something special, most women don't have that privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:54 PM
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How in the blue hell is this a personal attack? I just said you must be very attractive, because I think that's the only way you can have every single man you've encountered giga simp for you. Very few women can say that literally every single man they've ever dated treated them like a queen. This is absolutely not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:50 PM
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Good for you, you must be the most attractive woman on the planet if every man you've ever encountered was giga simping for you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:35 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong comment or something? Where did I say any of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:29 PM
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It's not the bare minimum at all, you just described a fucking knight in a medieval fairytale. You're telling men to get into pottery because apparently videogames, sports, gym and movies are just hobbies not good enough for women, and you think that's not being a simp? If that paragraph is the bare minimum for a man, what's the bare minimum for a woman then? Let's hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:55 PM
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I mean you're literally telling men they should always pay for dates, hold the doors, get flowers, entertain women, treat them like queens and lastly most important forgo your own hobbies and interests (aka the things that you care about) and get new ones just so you can please women. I don't know how anyone could read that paragraph and not think simp. Fuck it, it's more than simp, that paragraph is like an incel factory, a young man reads that and thinks that shit's so unfair women don't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:37 PM
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You know I was actually agreeing with you on principle until you got to that paragraph where you were describing what men should do and you're just describing an absolute simp. Idk why you have to go to the other extreme. There is a middle ground between incels and simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:13 AM
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I kind of agree with you, it is all about companionship and sexual gratification, and you can absolutely get both of these without being in a romantic relationship. Might be a bit harder, but it's definitely doable. The number one reason why people are in a relationship is because they are "supposed to". It's socially induced. Maybe this will change in the future as more and more people are single it seems, but right now If you're not in a relationship you're a complete loser, especially if you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:02 AM
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i mean they don't know it, there's the whole "wife googles" effect, they might be genuinely hoping they'll find their wife attractive even when she's 50. and again, someone could be the most lovely, supportive person in the world, but if I'm not attracted to her I don't see how in the blue hell I can be in a fulfilling relationship with her. at that point it would be better for both of us to break rather than be in a loveless relationship. and also anyone should be able to break up from any rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:04 PM
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but.. you literally said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:46 PM
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I don't think breaking up with someone because you're no longer attracted to them makes you a piece of shit by any means but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:38 PM
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Break up if they're no longer attracted to their partner..? What else could they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:53 PM
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Yeah I agree, young women generally prefer young men too. Not sure what that has to do with what I was saying though..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:18 PM
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Yeah and I already answered this: I don't know. I hope I'll still be attracted to people my age as I age, it will definitely make life easier lol Also I reject your premise that just because you're no longer attracted to your partner that it means you don't believe in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:50 PM
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Sure, and for some people physical attraction is of utmost importance when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:43 PM
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That's not true for me, and it doesn't seem to be true for most men based on the studies I've seen. I'm in my late 20s, and while I'm definitely still attracted to women my age, I think women in early 20s are the most attractive and I don't think that will ever change. And I'm talking about physical attraction alone obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:40 PM
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I don't know if I can answer your question because I'm at an age where I'm still attracted to people my age, but I know I've never been attracted to women significantly older than me. I've never in my entire life seen a woman in their 40s that aroused me in any way, so honestly I have no idea if I'll still be attracted to my partner when she goes into her 40s. I hope I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:33 PM
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I mean I pretty much agree with everything you've said, with the asterisk that it's still the choice of these two hypothetical adults to have whatever kind of relationship they want and we shouldn't judge them for it. But I was specifically talking about the "what would we even talk about?" part, and none of the bulletpoints really address that. And I'm not trying to be pedantic, it's just that I hear this argument all the time and it's truly baffling to me how people think 20yos and 30yos don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:10 PM
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i mean that's just a difference of taste. for example some people are ok with women that are a bit on the thicker side, for me being overweight is an absolute complete 100% turn off. any sexual drive I might have for someone completely disappears the moment they become fat. it's the same way with age. for you the crow's feet and the fine lines might not be that big of a deal, but for some it is. I don't think there's anything wrong with having preferences, even if they are "superficial".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:24 PM
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exactly. older man that are able to date younger women usually have something going for them, be it status, charisma, looks etc. and they could definitely date women of any age. i don't know why people keep assuming it's the 40yo virgins that are getting laid with 20yos women. it's not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:21 PM
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I never understood this "what would we talk about" thing? Like, what exactly are the things you're talking about with your fellow 30yo that you just couldn't talk with a 20yo? I understand the "start a family" discussions and stuff, but I feel like that's only a small part of the conversations we have with our loved ones. Most of it is just talking about the hobbies and interests we have in common. And for me, I basically have the same hobbies I've always had, they're like part of my identity. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:02 PM
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oh I see, you were saying the external factors play a role in interracial divorce rates, but in age gaps it would be the external factors + the lack of things in common/different life stages etc and sure I agree, you're probably right. I just don't really care, the way I look at it it's two consenting adults having a relationship together and I'm not going to stand against it or judge them harshly just because I think the relationship might have a higher likelihood of ending in a divorce. i find…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:10 PM
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wait what, I thought by external factors you meant people judging and berating the interracial couple and that could lead to higher divorce rates. what did you mean by "external factors"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:57 PM
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that could be the case for age gap marriages too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:49 PM
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Maybe not to you, but most men find women around the age of 20 to be the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:23 PM
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Interracial marriages also have significantly higher divorce rates, but nobody going to argue against them, right? Probably because it's wrong to intervene in the relationship of two consenting adults and we should let them do whatever they want together..?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:22 AM
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I always wondered to myself why they were single and pursuing me, rather than a woman their own age. I will never understand this bewilderment women have about this. Is it really that difficult to understand that older men would pursue younger women because they're simply hotter..? Like why is that so confusing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:19 AM
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Why is that a case of sexism? What if I just want to have sex with this specific woman and that's it..? Maybe I don't feel like debating the morality of the atomic bombings with her, but just want to have sex with her because I'm horny and she's physically attractive to me..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 01:44 PM
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A lot of them still don't admit to this. See all the recent demisexuality posts on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 01:41 PM
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I never said relationships are always based on first attractions. I said women can be attracted to men without knowing anything about them. At this point I don't know if you're trolling or not tbh. Again, it feels like you're arguing in bad faith now, like until now you might have been a bit stubborn but I thought you were giving this debate a fair shake, but now you're just putting words in my mouth and making shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:44 AM
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I'm not, there's a difference between "getting with someone" and "being attracted to them".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:40 AM
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Whatever, you're just arguing in bad faith right now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:39 AM
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No they didn't "get with that guy" just because he's attractive, women generally need more than that to "get with someone". I've never denied that. But women do experience physical attraction looking at strangers. That's the point. Think of the ugliest man in the world and the hottest man in the world, do you think these two men would have the exact same level of success in getting dates..? Using your logic they should, because women don't have any physical attraction before getting to know some…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:31 AM
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What makes you think I haven't? See, this is the problem, you're so stubborn you assume the only real experience is yours, and everyone else must be lying. Yes I know women who admit they find some men attractive without knowing anything about them. It's hard to go through life without meeting these type of women, because again, that's just the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:26 AM
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Studies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:18 AM
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You reminded me recently that this is a debate post. How are we supposed to debate this if studies are not good enough to change your mind on this? What exactly would it take for you to understand women can in fact be attracted to men without "getting to know them first"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:16 AM
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All those studies must have been made in parallel world I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:59 AM
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I can't read it because I'm not subscribed apparently. But you're going to compare an opinion in inews.co.uk to an actual study? The fact that all you've got is a thread on asexuality.org that ironically btw confirms what I've said and an opinion on this obscure news website is kind of saying it all don't you think? I'm happy you've started googling though because you've probably now seen the mountains of evidence against you. Not that that would change your mind obviously, your personal life an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:05 AM
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Am I supposed to read that entire thread? Have you read it? Because I've read the first few comments and they're confirming what I've said, not you lol. That most women are not demisexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:53 AM
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You are not most women either if you're demisexual. But at least I have studies rather than anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:48 AM
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I'm not saying you're lying, I'm saying you're wrong. I absolutely believe you when you say you're demisexual, you're just wrong in assuming most women are like you that's all, and I've given you a study that should confirm that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:42 AM
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Brad Pitt is considered attractive because he is attractive, not because of the characters he has played. He could be playing the most heinous of villains and he'd still be attractive. But whatever, these are some hardcore mental gymnastics. If you want to believe the vast majority of women are demisexuals like you then go ahead. Studies have shown the percentage of demisexuals to be less than 1%, but what the fuck do these experts know, they should have checked in with you before publishing suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:35 AM
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If that was the case sex symbols like Brad Pitt or George Clooney would have never become sex symbols in the first place because women would need to get to know them first before being attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 07:18 AM
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No, most women definitely have sex around the third date. There's surveys on this shit lol. Maybe not you, and that's fine, but you're not the norm, because believe it or not most women are not so terrified of men that they need like a bazilion dates in order to "vet" them. 3 dates is a lot of time, if you feel like someone is still a stranger after 3 dates then I don't know what the fuck you've been doing on those dates. Talking about the weather?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:20 PM
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Then congratulations, you're part of the 1% of the population that is actually demisexual. The vast, vast majority of people are not like that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:02 PM
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If by the third date you still feel unsafe around a man then you might as well call it quits lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:59 PM
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Sure I guess if you're in a situation in which you're borderline forced to have sex with people you're not attracted to because you have literally no other option I guess people will be willing to sleep with someone they're not attracted to. But people tend to not be this down bad. Especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:53 PM
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Straight men are not fucking men not because of some imaginary line they don't want to cross, but because men are not attractive and nobody wants to fuck someone they're not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:18 PM
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Why are straight men not fucking their male friends if having sex with someone you're not attracted to feels good?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:40 PM
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With someone you're not at all attracted to..? I don't know I just imagined myself having sex with a 60yo 300 pounds whale and the thought alone was repulsive to me. I don't see how anyone can have sex with someone they're not attracted to Also if attraction was not necessary for sex we'd all be bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:36 PM
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Why would anyone have sex with someone they're not attracted to..?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:27 PM
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Red pill women say this because they don't want to be perceived as promiscuous. Blue pill women say this because they're holier than thou and don't want to be perceived as sex brained as men. Studies show the actual percentage of demisexuals is around 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:14 PM
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Listen if you personally don't like very tall men then that's fine, everyone has their taste, but to pretend most women not only don't like 6'5" men, but actually DISLIKE them is crazy. The super tall dude from Euphoria for example is like the next big thing atm and every woman I've ever met seems to find him extremely hot. Fuck it, I find him hot too and I ain't even gay, dude's a fucking specimen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:52 PM
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Saying women just don't care about money was one thing, but now you think being 6'5 is unattractive as well!? You must be trolling because honestly I can't explain any of this otherwise. How could you possibly believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:45 PM
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Simple, it's not the women with "many passions, hobbies, interests, goals, lust for life and adventures etc" that are called boring. It's the ones that are super clingy, become completely attached to their partner and have basically no hobbies except some interest in clothes and makeup. You definitely know the type.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:22 PM
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Yeah, I agree. That is indeed gross. It's just there's people that think just "sexualizing" someone (without letting them know) is still wrong because muh objectification or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:33 PM
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I've actually seen my mom say "daym look at that ass" to my dad before, so no she wouldn't have a problem with that at all. Because unlike some women she doesn't have a stick up her ass about the most benign comments. I don't understand how you can possibly deduce that a man appreciating a woman's ass means they basically think of women as subhuman, sexual objects, with no feelings or thoughts, only made for men's pleasure etc etc. It's a little bit too much, don't you think? It's just a nice pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:09 PM
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Ok I see, your problem is with a man talking about a woman's singular body part, that's super gross, but talking about multiple body parts is totally ok. I can't say I've ever heard this kind of criticism before, but cool, everyone has their preferences I guess Again nothing wrong with the way you're thinking, as long as you're also cool with men saying they find women with reactive sexuality also low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:57 PM
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I mean cool, you are free to find anything undesirable, but most men out there would definitely think "damn look at that ass" at a woman passing by so I would argue that is definitely part of male sexuality. Also I don't really get the "smoking hot" vs "look at that ass" difference when they're both about body parts. Nobody is referring to a woman's grand intellect when they go "damn that woman is smoking hot", they're talking about her body lol. And this goes to OP's point. You can find anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:29 PM
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That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:21 PM
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How dumb they think it is that when I glance at a hot woman passing by in skintight pants, I would legit be happy to touch, like unironically? Anything else you need from me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:19 PM
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should I quote you the part where OP is talking about glancing at a woman's ass or how else can I help you..?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:11 PM
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needing consent to sexualize someone is some diabolical shit. i don't need to provide anyone consent for what goes in my mind lol that's crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:09 PM
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this is almost as cringe as when red pillers are trying to "educate" women about female sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:59 PM
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You're really going to pretend you've just never met women that don't like it when their boyfriends glance at a woman's ass passing by? You're really going to act like that's some super niche borderline imaginary situation? Really..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:57 PM
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Do you generally believe everything men say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:46 PM
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There's no fucking way any man would say no to that, how could you possibly believe that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:07 PM
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Dating someone because they have "stories to tell" is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:01 PM
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yeah because your definition of cheating is looking at other women lol that is absolutely a pain in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:39 PM
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I still don't get what does all this talk about overcoming stuff and personal growth have to do with being jaded. I feel like you don't really know what jaded means. feeling or showing a lack of interest and excitement caused by having done or experienced too much of something https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/jaded Considering "experiencing too much of something" is part of the literal definition, wouldn't it make sense for old people to be more jaded, considering they've experienced more..…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:08 PM
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Is that so? You've met every old man and woman on this planet and you can surely attest there is no correlation? mkay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:23 PM
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What do you mean "the IF is the issue here"?! Do you think anyone here actually believes that it's ok to have non consensual relationships with young women? Of course not. The relationship being consensual was always a given. You for some reason simply believe that the consent an adult woman gives is somehow invalid, like you know better than they do because.. yeah..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:18 PM
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alright if you want to pretend there's absolutely zero correlation between being jaded and age then I guess that's your prerogative
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:15 PM
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I don't think anyone has ever said that every single old person is jaded and every single young person is not. It's just that it's more likely to be jaded if you're older, I don't see how anyone can disagree with that..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:41 PM
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I've heard them justify this by saying that if men could go lower they would, so therefore they're actually pedophiles. It's very stupid, but I think that's the argument used. In fact, you'll even see explanation used in this comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:24 PM
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but there's guys literally saying that they prefer young women because they are not "jaded", "used up", "difficult" like old women You say that like it's a bad thing or something. Is there anyone in this world, male or female, that actually prefers a partner that's jaded, used up and difficult..?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:15 PM
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I don't think so, if they meant to say that, they'd just.. say that, and not babble about how 20yos apparently look like babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:10 PM
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Barely an adult means an adult. That means they can consent. And if they can consent, what the hell is the problem? This reminds me of the "I consent, I consent, but didn't you forget to ask someone!?" meme with Jesus. But instead of Jesus now it's a self righteous redditor assuming the most heinous things about someone they know literally nothing about except their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:06 PM
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Yes. I've personally heard the "I'm 30 years old and I don't understand how anyone could find a 20yo physically attractive they literally look like babies!" spiel a bazillion times. I'm actually astonished that you've never witnessed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:03 PM
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No puberty doesn't end at the first period, it ends quite a few years later. Point is if you've been through puberty you can provide consent, that's the entire point of puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:01 PM
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Regarding point 2 of the title — on the contrary, this is common knowledge. I assure you that women are not lacking in awareness that men find youth, thinness, and good skin attractive. I mean there's definitely a lot of people that act downright baffled as to why someone would prefer a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:53 PM
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If they're bisexual sure..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:50 PM
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They're interested in attractive adult women who can obviously provide consent, that's who they're interested in. Hardly a greek tragedy in my opinion. It's like we've looked at the "think of the children" pearl clutching from the boomers, and decided to up it up to "think of the adults!" now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:39 PM
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Well no because we have this thing called puberty which literally means the transition to adulthood and by the age of 18 pretty much everyone has finished puberty and reached sexual maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:35 PM
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I love how this absurd claim keeps changing day by day. First it was 25 now it's late twenties, tommorow it's probably gonna be 30s Give it a few weeks and we'll be left with only the geriatrics
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:24 PM
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No but just assuming someone's a bad person without knowing literally anything about them except their age does make you seem bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:19 PM
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I've always found it funny when people act BAFFLED by why someone would want a younger woman. Like, do you not have eyes, hello?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:18 PM
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Yeah, I haven't seen anyone advocate for rape anywhere in the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:35 PM
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Who exactly are you arguing against? Who here thinks because they pay taxes they should be allowed to rape women? What.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:22 PM
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I feel like most men would have no problem providing emotional support when it feels like.. reasonable. Like if your girlfriend's parents just died in a housefire, I don't think any man would "oh cmon do I reeeallly have to comfort you right now??" But when you're crying because you have to go to work, I think it's just.. pathetic. I'm sorry I can't think of any other word, but is pathetic, it just reminds me of a child that's crying because they have to go to school, but the thing is I'm suppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:24 AM
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but that's the problem, that you're using analogies revolving around killing people, when what we're talking about is two instances in which two adults are doing consensual things together without hurting anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:07 AM
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I don't think it's wrong for women to be picky. They can be as picky as they want. What I was trying to point out is that women go "yeah we're picky because of our biology", but when men go "yeah I'm attracted to young women because of our biology" that's disgusting or something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:35 AM
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When did I ever say you deny that men are attracted to younger women? I said you think it's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:58 PM
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In both instances it's two adults doing whatever they want together, so yeah I don't see why I'd have a problem with either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:53 PM
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I think the hypocrisy is the point - that women can defend their actions behind "it's just muh biology" but when men do it well now it's a huge problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:06 PM
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well tough luck, sex with those women must be really hard/not that enjoyable if a man actually prefers jerking off to pixels on his phone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:21 PM
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Yeah, but this man is talking about 1) A 35yo - 25yo age gap 2) The 35yo is immature and emotionally stunted 3) He's super extreme in his thinking - "they should not date. period" You on the other hand have a much more sensible take. If someone in their 30s is exclusively dating people 18-22, yeah it's ok to be "concerned". If I had an 18yo friend date someone in their 30s I'd definitely keep an eye on them and look for red flags when we meet, I feel like that's only reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:21 AM
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Obviously if it's such a huge transgression that under no circumstances should a 35yo date a 25yo period, then it should be against the law..? Why exactly shouldn't it be? We have laws against all kinds of shit we find deeply immoral, why would this be an exception? Unless, you do realize deep down an immature 35yo dating a 25yo is not that big of a deal..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:17 AM
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Ok, a relationship doesn't work out and one person feels like they've wasted their time. So what? Are we supposed to forbid all relationships that we think are unlikely to work out, or are we supposed to let 2 adults do whatever they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:20 PM
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Ok but can you now answer why it's a problem for two immature people to date each other? And not just a problem, but an obviously humongous problem, considering it's apparently forbidden for an immature 35yo man to date a 25yo woman girl
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:43 PM
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Honestly if anyone has a problem with the example you've given (35yo and 25yo) they have to be brain rotten and terminally online, there's no other explanation. No one in the real world gives a shit about who a 25yo is fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:31 PM
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Wait why is that a problem? Who's the emotionally stunted man supposed to date now if not someone younger? If he dates a fully grown 35yo woman she will obviously abuse and manipulate him cuz of muh power dynamics, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:23 PM
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What the hell could possibly be immoral about two people doing something together consensually without hurting anybody?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:13 PM
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Holy shit, what did videogames do to you that made you hate them so much. You talk about them like they were sent down to earth by Satan himself. Say it with me: Videogames are OK. Hobbies are OK. Not maximizing everything in your life under the "what gets the most women" scope is OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:01 AM
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If someone says they like oranges and you don't, you're going to try and convince them oranges taste bad through an intense debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:11 AM
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so you would literally stop finding something sexy the moment you realize there's a lot more women out there that also don't find it sexy? huh!? how does that make any sense? what you personally find sexy is based exclusively on what other women find sexy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 07:19 PM
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what the fuck is there to debate? people find different things sexy, there's nothing to argue about lol..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 07:09 PM
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no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 07:00 PM
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just another paradox from women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 07:00 PM
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the other outcome is not actually rape. rape is not when you don't ask for consent for every single thing, believe it or not..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:59 PM
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I don't know how anyone could possibly change your mind when you already seem convinced that women around the world already believe asking for consent for every single thing is hot lol. How exactly would we go about changing your mind exactly? Because obviously if any woman comes up and says "nah I don't think asking for pronouns is hot at all" you'll just think they're the exception, obviously, because you've already made up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:55 PM
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and you deduced that from me having the totally unreasonable demand of being physically attracted to my partner? ok lol you're weird
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:53 PM
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yeah, did I stutter? physical attraction is the foundation of a relationship. you could be the kindest, smartest, most interesting woman in the world, if I'm not attracted to you then we'll only be friends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:47 PM
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leave it to women to pretend physical attraction is not an important basis for a relationship lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:42 PM
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There's another reason: younger women being you know, hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:46 PM
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One thing you're missing is that it's a job that inherently feels rewarding and fulfilling, or at least should feel that way if you love your children. And when your job is something that you love, it will feel A LOT easier than doing something that you hate. I'd take a difficult but fulfilling job that I actually enjoy doing over a boring easy job any day, and I don't think I'm the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:22 AM
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First of all I don't think that's true at all, I don't think you need to be damaged or something in order to enjoy spanking, but even if that was the case, even if the desire was born out of some previous trauma, so what? What does that have to do with the fact that hypothetical person we're talking about is genuinely enjoying spanking? It makes them feel good. Why would a sexual activity that both people enjoy and consent to EVER be a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:23 PM
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Well you have yet to tell me why it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:11 PM
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Because you were talking about someone that, quote, "wants to be spanked"? So it's consensual..?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:07 PM
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actually yes, two people doing something together consensually should be free from criticism. there's nothing to criticize, it's none of our business, it's two people pleasuring themselves in whatever way they see fit without hurting anyone. like what the hell is this? the femcel inquisition? i can't believe you're unironically doing the "isn't there someone you forgot to ask" jesus meme, feels like we're going back in time with all this pearl clutching bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:07 PM
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you're also not being abused when a man is gooning to porn, but here you are acting like it's a greek tragedy or something
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:02 PM
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I don't think I understand your argument. Why shouldn't the cutoff be at 25 if the peak is at 25? That means anything after 25 is going downhill.. so it makes sense for the cutoff to be there if you're trying to maximize fertility or whatever? Also I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I don't think most men care about how much more fertile someone in their early 20s is compared to someone in their early 30s. I think most men prefer women in their 20s simply because they're hotter, and they co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:53 AM
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Funny how this law of transitivity only applies to what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:20 PM
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The whole women being ran through shit will always make me cringe. The only somewhat reasonable argument I've heard about this is that some men are insecure that they will not be able to sexually please a woman that has had too many partners because he's not experienced enough, but that's about it, everything else is just gross puritanism that only gets applied to one side.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:46 PM
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It's as natural as feeling like your girlfriend doesn't love you anymore because she didn't give you a blowjob one day after years of daily blowjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:12 PM
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You don't need an "excuse" to give up and not try anymore. There's nothing wrong with deciding to stop dating. You have an extremely judgmental worldview for no reason really.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:15 PM
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He quite literally says, quote, "being a doctor won't improve your chances with girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:21 PM
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You're downright delusional if you think someone working at McDonald's has the same level of success as a doctor or lawyer. Especially if we're talking about serious relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:36 PM
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