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This is why no one will ever take you seriously. Words have meaning. This isn’t an equivalent analogy. Logic gets pushed to the side in favor of emotions
/r/MensRights08/08/26 05:08 AM
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Wow, is this what men’s rights has come to? Having fantasies about “exterminating” women? No wonder no one takes you seriously and describes you as a hate group. I came here to discuss approaches to fixing men’s mental health issues, among other salient issues, and instead I find an echo chamber of men discussing “exterminating women like insects”. I’m ashamed of this movement
/r/MensRights24/03/24 07:47 AM
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But it was portrayed as evil. People just have poor media literacy
/r/MensRights24/03/24 07:40 AM
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Because no one ever lies on the internet
/r/MensRights17/09/22 07:23 AM
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Fair, if I see the power wheel it is a sign the Duluth model is being used. But again, it’s still resting on an assumption it’s being used without actual linked examples. Someone else did, however, provide a few examples which was all I was looking for.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 02:18 PM
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Thank you. I think examples are important to prove you’re talking about something that is actively being used in practice.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 05:32 AM
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Do you have a PhD or experience doing research at a university? It seems pretty obvious you have limited experience with and exposure to research so your perception isn’t grounded in evidence, just whatever assumptions you’ve made from media
/r/MensRights01/04/22 05:29 AM
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But how do you know these counseling services are using it? Where did you find information about it still being commonly used? I apologize if I missed something, but I can claim any number of things about posters on walls but it doesn’t really prove anything unless I have evidence
/r/MensRights01/04/22 05:25 AM
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Thank you
/r/MensRights30/03/22 11:47 PM
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Alright, I missed that. But studies aren’t “cancelled” or “banned” for reporting results people don’t like. People get away with researching and publishing all kinds of controversial results because academic freedom is baked into university policy.
/r/MensRights30/03/22 11:46 PM
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But you didn’t list any specific places where it’s on the wall. I’m not trying to be unnecessarily aggressive, I just want actual examples of its use. If you have the articles about Australia, would you please share them?
/r/MensRights30/03/22 11:34 PM
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That’s not at all what statistical significance means. Statistical significance is a real concept. If you don’t know what it is, just say so. But it’s not a tricky way to get around reporting “controversial” results. It’s just fact.
/r/MensRights30/03/22 07:31 AM
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I keep hearing so much about the Duluth model but I’ve never seen it outside of this sub. Anyone have clear real life recent examples of its effects/use? It seems old and outdated
/r/MensRights30/03/22 06:52 AM
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So should we not elect any man that hasn’t served before? The draft isn’t active and hasn’t been for decades. Until you’ve been drafted and served, you can’t claim special privileges for it. That being said, the draft needs to be abolished
/r/MensRights10/03/22 05:36 AM
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I see most of the discussion revolving around feminism. But why would that be the answer to this issue? Similarly, why would the onus be on MRAs to fix this? It’s on the government. For instance, the conservative party in the USA is the major roadblock to including women in the draft. I don’t know the exact situation or party in Ukraine that led to this discrepancy, but direct your energy where it will have the most effect.
/r/MensRights08/03/22 04:18 PM
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Do you have examples? I keep seeing hypothetical examples and discussion surrounding the idea, but I’m curious to see real life examples
/r/MensRights28/02/22 05:08 AM
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Are dangerous jobs generally higher paying? I suppose some are, but I would argue the opposite. The most dangerous jobs generally aren’t well paid.
/r/MensRights27/02/22 07:07 PM
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Do you mind sharing your sources?
/r/MensRights26/02/22 05:45 AM
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This idea of anyone offering “protection” during a war is based on a fantasy. No one can protect anyone during a war. No one is safe.
/r/MensRights25/02/22 07:22 AM
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Men can sell sexual services too, though. It might not be as in high demand, but that’s more of a demand/supply conversation. It’s not inherently unfair. Market sets the price
/r/MensRights21/02/22 05:26 PM
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Okay, thank you
/r/MensRights18/02/22 12:43 AM
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I found a study supporting one of the claims (43% of women admitted to sexually coercing someone), but that doesn’t mean the same thing/imply that the majority of people who rape men are women. Do you have a specific source for the first and second claims (most male victims are raped by a women, most male victims of sexual coercion are coerced by women)? There’s generally a lot of contention around these claims so clear sources for each one is helpful
/r/MensRights17/02/22 05:50 AM
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I looked into it, since it comes up here so often, and the Duluth model is outdated and has been criticized by its own creator. Does anyone use it anymore?
/r/MensRights17/02/22 04:32 AM
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Some men can choose to walk away. They’re certainly welcome to, if it makes them happier. Women are also welcome to choose to live alone. I have no horse in this race. But it seems unlikely a vast majority of men will leave and unlikely many women will notice or care, at least in my anecdotal experience. But I am curious if you’ve seen something like this play out in your social circle?
/r/MensRights17/02/22 04:28 AM
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That’s alright. They have so many different ways of distinguishing between different forms of abuse, sexual violence, etc it is confusing
/r/MensRights17/02/22 03:52 AM
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It would be helpful to start by clarifying what welfare abuse specifically refers to, then providing statistics that speak to the prevalence of abuse
/r/MensRights17/02/22 03:50 AM
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It is legal in some countries. And in the US, it’s legal in Nevada
/r/MensRights17/02/22 03:47 AM
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You could argue that, but it’s a poor argument. If people choose to spend their money on strippers and sexual services, they’re buying a service. There’s a difference between buying a service and spending money on a girlfriend or wife. With that logic, you can argue you’re transferring wealth to women any time you buy a service from a company women own equity in
/r/MensRights17/02/22 03:37 AM
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And I’m not understanding how this page contradicts itself. They distinguish between unwanted sexual contact from non-partners, presumably, and what I assume are partners. I could be missing something, but I am tired of this trend of people assuming a source is wrong because they don’t understand something
/r/MensRights17/02/22 03:26 AM
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I don’t think it’s biased, I think it’s a misunderstanding of these distinctions. It makes sense biologically. If someone is being raped by being made to penetrate, it makes sense that the perpetrator was a female. And if someone is being raped by being penetrated, the perpetrator is more likely to be a male. I think percentages are not that helpful, given the biological component. Frequencies would be more telling
/r/MensRights17/02/22 03:21 AM
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Can you provide sources?
/r/MensRights16/02/22 08:14 AM
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And 46.1 actually refers to the percentage of bisexual women, not percentage of lesbian women. With all due respect, don’t assume a study is incorrect because you don’t understand how something is calculated.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 11:20 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf See pg. 2 and the header “sex of perpetrator of intimate partner violence”
/r/MensRights10/02/22 11:09 PM
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They do ask about sex of the perpetrator and provide the most common perpetrator information, but don’t break it down by every category. Presumably, asking about whether you were assaulted and then by who (male, female) would capture any current or past partners. And I’m not sure how the % is inaccurate?
/r/MensRights10/02/22 05:57 PM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 05:16 PM
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My first response was to clarify the source but I see we agree on the source. How is it poorly done? How are the stats inaccurate? What would be a better approach? It’s by the CDC. You’d be hard pressed to find an organization better suited to collecting and reporting data about populations
/r/MensRights10/02/22 05:13 PM
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It’s actually remarkably similar when adjusted for sex of the perpetrator. Something like 27 vs 29%
/r/MensRights10/02/22 01:22 AM
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They do provide some insight into sex of the perpetrators, although they don’t fully break it down for each category.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 01:20 AM
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You can look at my comment history for more information about the source and data. It’s a misinterpretation of the results of a CDC study. Lesbians don’t have the highest DV rate
/r/MensRights10/02/22 01:18 AM
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Lesbians don’t have the highest rates of domestic violence. This idea is based on a misinterpretation of a CDC study that no one has bothered correcting, further enhancing the perception and reality that this sub egregiously misuses and misinterprets statistics
/r/MensRights10/02/22 01:16 AM
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I don’t have kids, but I do have a close relationship with my dad. If you have a relationship with your dad and the means to give thoughtful presents for holidays or birthdays, then do so. If your dad likes tools, then tools are a good gift. It depends on his interests. I usually ship my dad some craft beer from my state (that he wouldn’t usually have access to) or nice whiskey, which is also a bit stereotypical. But I don’t think it matters if the gift is stereotypical if the person receiving i…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:34 PM
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Society does not recognize or prioritize many of the issues men are more likely to, or exclusively, face. However, misinterpreting statistics and claiming they say something they don’t isn’t going to help. It only generates outrage and perpetrates the idea that people interested in men’s issues have a different agenda
/r/MensRights22/01/22 04:45 PM
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Maybe not everyone misinterprets the data, but it’s common enough that I’m assuming that’s what is meant when the second claim is made. I somewhat agree with the way you worded the interpretation but would tweak it slightly. Based on the CDC data, I think it’s more accurate to say the relative frequency of female victims of IPV is highest for women that identify as bisexual, followed by women that identify as lesbians, etc. My initial point is that the CDC includes sexual orientation but not in …
/r/MensRights19/01/22 02:54 AM
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Can you provide a source for this? I’ve been doing a deep dive on data related to these topics and CDC data indicates the opposite. Bisexual women are most often victims of domestic abuse but the perpetrators are primarily men (89%) https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf
/r/MensRights18/01/22 07:10 PM
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That’s fine. My point was that lesbian relationships aren’t shown to be the most violent nor can we assume the gender of perpetrator for gay or lesbian victims unless explicitly stated
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:08 AM
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Right…but the CDC study indicates that lesbians do not have the most violent relationships. The study you’re referencing does not provide evidence either way because it doesn’t include sexuality, which is my point.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:01 AM
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That’s not what the CDC data shows though, which is my entire point. You’re making an inference from a study that doesn’t even account for sexuality of participants. Whereas we have data that does (the CDC study)
/r/MensRights18/01/22 04:59 AM
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They look at intimate partner violence in the CDC study
/r/MensRights18/01/22 04:29 AM
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Yes it does, when people are using these studies to claim lesbians have the most violent relationships when the data does not support this
/r/MensRights18/01/22 04:29 AM
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You’re not looking at the CDC study The study looking at reciprocity doesn’t focus on sexual orientation
/r/MensRights18/01/22 04:20 AM
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Did you read the source or even the OP? The rate of domestic violence is highest for bisexual women and the majority of perpetrators (89%) are men
/r/MensRights18/01/22 04:16 AM
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I see some people claiming lesbians have the most violent relationships, but this data does not provide direct support to that idea.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 03:58 AM
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Yes, we’ve established that. But we don’t know the breakdown of the remaining %
/r/MensRights18/01/22 02:02 AM
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It sounds like we agree. My point was, when considering the domestic violence inflicted against lesbian women and gay men, we can’t assume the gender of the perpetrator. And yes, in this case, the gender of the perpetrator(s) could be women and men or only men for the remaining % of lesbian women reporting IP domestic violence. I haven’t seen if they break it down further in the report yet. But most people hear “intimate partner domestic violence” and assume the gender of the perpetrator based o…
/r/MensRights16/01/22 12:29 AM
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Yes. It says that of the lesbian women that experienced intimate partner violence, 67% reported that those perpetrators were only female. How are you interpreting it?
/r/MensRights15/01/22 11:58 PM
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That’s what I’m referring to. Look at page 2 in the CDC report posted by OP (pg. 8 in the PDF). 67% of domestic partner violence against lesbian women is perpetrated by other women. I imagine a lot of lesbian women date men before coming out and it’s also likely many gay men date women before coming out
/r/MensRights15/01/22 11:49 PM
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There’s also a more recent report, in case it’s helpful: https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/2015data-brief508.pdf
/r/MensRights15/01/22 10:34 PM
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Not all of the violence against lesbian women is perpetuated by other women. That’s a common misconception. The majority is (67%) but be careful not to make assumptions about the gender of the perpetrator when interpreting findings
/r/MensRights15/01/22 10:32 PM
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It looks like bisexual women more often experience domestic violence from intimate partners (and the perpetrators were most likely to be men), followed by lesbians (67% of perpetrators were women), bisexual men, and then heterosexual women. So the claim that lesbians experience more domestic violence than any other group does not appear to be supported by the CDC stats
/r/MensRights14/01/22 11:25 PM
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I looked at the CDC statistics (from 2010 since that was the year you mentioned but I’ll also check for more recent stats) and across all sexual orientation groups, lesbians aren’t the most likely to be sexually assaulted or raped. Bisexual women are the group most likely to be assaulted (note that assault for men includes being made to penetrate) or raped. And the report notes “the majority of lesbian, bisexual, and heterosexual women who experienced sexual violence other than rape in their lif…
/r/MensRights14/01/22 11:12 PM
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You misunderstood me. I wasn’t clear. First, I absolutely believe men can be abused, hurt, and raped by women. That’s not something you have to convince me of. I’m also very sorry to hear about your experiences. However, you also have to recognize that individual experiences are unique and don’t apply to every situation ever. My point was that you mention some studies showing women instigating violence more (I think you’re referencing that reciprocal violence article I’ve seen popping up a lot l…
/r/MensRights14/01/22 10:47 PM
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You’re citing two studies and ignoring a body of literature. And then making wild conclusions when interpreting the results of another study when said study did not investigate what you’re claiming. You can’t make inferences like that without proper evidence. And would you share the CDC statistics you’re referencing? This sub has a history of misinterpreting CDC statistics
/r/MensRights14/01/22 06:51 AM
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