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I don't think a lot of men do that these days, at least not in the Western societies I've lived in
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:40 PM
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Again, that's because all feminism is about deflecting blame from women. So there's no good faith discussion to be had with them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:38 PM
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nah, sometimes it is fun. But I get that sometimes it's a chore
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:02 PM
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I think it's taken for granted that social skills is a form of status, like most other skills
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:00 PM
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How does that show the wall isn't real? Unless you're arguing old women get the same amount of attention as young women, you seem to say the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:59 PM
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Well sometimes that's what happens. The woman deserves some of the blame
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:55 PM
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possibly, but as long as it works
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:54 PM
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men can just as easily spot women's red flags and avoid them Who said that? You're shifting blame onto men because you didn't like women being criticized. Suspicious posting pattern. Also I think it's plausible that women are more attracted to the toxic men than men are to toxic women. Male toxicity can signify confidence and status. Female toxicity has no benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:54 PM
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Yikes. Femcel face. These are the types that want to relive their high school years by preying on some kid
/r/MensRights25/05/26 12:06 PM
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This ain't the first time iirc
/r/MensRights25/05/26 12:05 PM
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Something have to be done about the colleges. Is basically a cult in there. What is Trump doing?
/r/MensRights25/05/26 12:05 PM
1

that's assuming Alex doesn't want to settle down Historically most people just married someone nearby when they were young
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:07 AM

because that's not how feminists act. Fundamentally the ideology is female incels raging at men, not equality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:05 AM

Agree that feminism actually benefits nobody but we got a number of pick me men out there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:03 AM
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Basically it's all about deflecting blame from women, not equality I can believe some things are men's fault, society's fault etc. But some things are women's fault.
/r/MensRights06/04/26 11:02 AM
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those things don't really happen that much in modern life to begin with. "Everything" is quite an exaggeration
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:45 PM
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basically ask any feminist what they consider to be the fault of women besides being too amenable to patriarchy and you'll see
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:44 PM
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'know their own minds' is code for being disagreeable here. Who doesn't know their own minds except the mentally ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:42 PM
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pointless semantic dodge tbh. That's what 'avoiding criticism' has always meant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:40 PM
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All feminism is about deflecting blame and criticism. That is the entire purpose of the movement, to avoid being judged and shamed even when they deserve it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:39 PM
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Did you write this with AI? It feels like shifting all blame away from women to men. I think expecting sex on a 3rd date is reasonable even if it's not 'something quick'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:37 PM
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They're triggered by anything men do, really 90% are fat middle aged femcels. That whole demographic isn't worth listening to
/r/MensRights08/02/26 07:54 PM
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Speaking from personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:25 PM
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Not in my experience. The opposite actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:24 PM

Disagree. What is behaving high value anyway? Women do care about your height and wallet. Are you supposed to just... fake it? That'll never work lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:31 AM
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Most people never find 'exactly who they're looking for' though, that's the whole point of settling. Frankly the idea that your partner must "fit" you is a 1st world delusion. I just married and my wife and I love each other, that's "fit" enough. You'll know when you're older, as my dad says...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:28 PM
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To be fair, attending therapy is a red flag for both sexes unless they have a very good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:25 PM
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Women's group politics is doing something to men, hence the same strategies from men. The patriarchy is really the only civilizational solution
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:58 AM
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A man will date or marry a woman who is unemployed, depressed, struggling emotionally, or rebuilding her life ...if she's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:56 AM
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No studies about the rates of false accusation can be trusted out of western academia, which is basically a cult in the social sciences I wouldn't be this pessimistic but it's safe to say the rate of false claims and playing victim is higher than reported, due to how much premium western society places on victimhood
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:55 AM
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trust but verify
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:53 AM
1

You sure? Lots of traditionally 'toxic' men are married, possibly more than the soft boys you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:52 AM
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Reddit is a shithole lol
/r/MensRights14/10/25 11:36 PM
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Fat girls want to lower beauty standards instead of improving themselves because that takes work. Simple as.
/r/MensRights14/10/25 11:36 PM
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Is this deflection/whataboutism because men criticize women for choosing badly? The post sounds like it was created to deflect judgment. Of course men would avoid women who cheat, lie etc if we knew in advance. The question is whether or not people are fooled by the manipulator. Most men don't believe abusive men are clever enough to consistently mask his real self for years because we almost never see that while interacting with other men. The same is not true when interacting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:34 PM
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Owning it is not the definition of objectification though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:28 PM
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It's not bad to objectify women's bodies. That's called being a normal human. The feminist straw man is that men can only see women as objects if they objectify them in the moment. But more importantly, it doesn't matter what feminists think. Men's sexual desire is none of their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:27 PM

What you're describing is the natural state of humanity before civilization where everyone maximizes their reproductive chances without regard to morality. This is why every society above hunter-gatherer has 'family values', attempted monogamy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:32 AM
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If she was hot then all she'd have to do is exist and not be crazy/violent, but if not then she'll need to have other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:30 AM
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It's hard to believe this inherently innocent image women have when you live in India, heh. Karens have always been quite visible imo, all the way back to ancient times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:27 AM
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There's no reason to assume that attacking feminists is baseless, given that feminism is largely about deflecting blame from women (like you're doing). MensLib largely blames men for not being nice/open enough, so it's not in men's interests -- more like a concern trolling movement disguised as 'healthy outlooks'. The way you write sounds more like a white girl indoctrinated in college, not a man of any sort. You should be more honest with your tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:09 AM
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All happiness studies are bullshit in the first place, like those studies about which countries are happiest. Happiness is hard to define, quantify, varies from person to person, some people lie, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:01 AM
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Wouldn't say 20, maybe 25+, then it's suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:59 PM
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Chivalry only applies under traditional gender roles, as the woman is expected to give something back. Otherwise it's everybody for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:49 AM
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I think women hate unattractive men just like men hate unattractive women. There doesn't need to be a higher reason for it, just the fact that they're unattractive is enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:05 AM

Nobody's really out to destroy women's rights, just feminism. Sheesh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:56 PM

Abortion isn't a right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:55 PM

There wasn't an incentive for men to be feminists in the past, either. Feminism is the hatred of men dressed up as compassion. It allows women to deflect all blame to men or society. Every time a feminist says something like 'feminism will fix men's issues', it's disingenuous concern trolling or ignorance of what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:53 PM
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He could be right though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:51 PM
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Once again, all feminism is blaming men or society for women's problems. That is the nature of the female psyche: "It's not my fault"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:15 AM
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But their honesty is justified. Being fat is not attractive to most people. He does look silly. There IS a good chance he might be friend-zoned. Sure it's not nice but that doesn't mean they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:13 AM
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Feminism's purpose is to deflect blame from women no matter how much she is at fault
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:11 AM
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men's "unconditional love for women" I assure you no man actually thinks that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:08 AM
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You can do that because men aren't as likely to fight women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:07 AM
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Odds are he didn't think it was that serious and she did. Nobody will know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:06 AM
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Nobody benefits from deconstructing the patriarchy. Patriarchy is civilization, equality is a social illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:59 AM
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Women believe they shouldn't be blamed for anything, ever. So they always deflect blame onto men/society and "affirm" themselves. This isn't new tbh
/r/MensRights24/10/24 02:22 AM
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Sounds a bit too close to "it's society's fault and not mine"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:46 PM
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First off, "empathy" is a meaningless word these days for leftists to virtue signal with. Few actually have empathy for anyone who's not like them. Second, feels over facts leads to shithole societies in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:45 PM
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If you live in the West, "rights" in the modern sense isn't legal rights, it's just a vague word for liberal activists to claim what they want. If they can do it, you can too.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 03:44 PM
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This is largely a western problem, with your crazy laws, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:40 PM
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That's because men and women are different. Women want your resources, men want youth and fertility. But it's not as bad you think, plenty of young "unestablished" guys are dating and marrying. Fuckboys, poor guys get married all the time. What women say and what they do are quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:36 PM
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That's how it started, but then it turned into 'everybody is attractive'. And there really are "fat liberation" types who want society to view them as attractive as normal people, though I will assume they are a tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:35 AM
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Does not account for status or wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:33 AM
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There is no such thing as equality in the sexual market place. It is the MOST unequal economy and always will be. Imagine your ideal partner, now imagine somebody disgusting. It's a biological imperative to seek the "best" mate you can, and we are all fine tuned to detect tiny differences in superiority/inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:32 AM
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Well yeah, equality is unjust because people aren't equals. A better phrase is "To those accustomed to equality, hierarchy feels like oppression".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:21 AM
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90% of feminism is women resenting men for not being attracted to them, dumping them, cheating on them, etc. Equality etc is just an excuse. I used to actually believe the excuses when I was a teen, then going to college in the US opened my eyes. The angriest, most radicalized feminists tend to be ugly and fat. In other words feminism is mostly femceldom dressed up as ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:19 AM
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That's no different than anywhere else. India is not particularly bad in this regard, despite what western media says.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:29 AM
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A lot of "social justice" activism is based on revenge, which demands compensation without a clearly set limit. There is no point when they say "OK, that's enough, we're all simply equals now". It's a grift.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:28 AM
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There's probably a time and place when you can open up to a specific woman who loves you, but like 95% of the time they just end up thinking you're weak and pathetic, while saying otherwise. I mean, men (and women) have always known this, hence the need for traditional male toughness.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 04:24 AM
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Lol. The entire feminist movement is about deflecting blame. They do it like their lives depended on it. White western women in 2024 are the MOST coddled group in the history of humanity, it's not even close.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 04:22 AM
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My mom told me that when talking to women, half the things you say should be some variation of "It's not your fault". That's whats going on here lol. The entire women's movement, feminism, is based on deflecting blame away from themselves. That probably makes sense from an evolutionary perspective: If you're not strong enough to physically defend yourself, then being blamed could lead to social ostracization and death.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:30 AM
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Any criticism of women is misogyny. Never take misogyny seriously if you live in Western country.
/r/MensRights06/05/24 01:29 AM
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Having money doesn't guarantee love, either.
/r/MensRights06/05/24 01:28 AM
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I almost wish you were right, actually. But sadly, many of them really do believe in egalitarian nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:25 AM
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To be fair, The View is a bunch of bitter old hens and I really don't see why people would care. Would women care if a bunch of bitter old dudes talked shit about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:24 AM
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Reddit is a leftist echo chamber and one of the least free of the major platforms in the West, we need someone like Musk to buy the company and liberate discussion spaces.
/r/MensRights30/04/24 12:42 PM
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I'm pretty sure the effect is just dudes feeling horny and women reminding them or their moms, a nice teacher, or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:37 PM
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Depends on how old the woman is and what her body looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:34 PM
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Feminism has always been embittered women hating men, they just dress it in moral clothing. You'll notice they never blame women for anything, any female shortcoming is always the Patriarchy's fault.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 05:01 AM
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Ehh... he ain't that hot. I'm hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:12 PM
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Women don't have "rules", dude. Nobody does. Human interactions aren't this simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:11 PM
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The notion that women are constantly afraid of men killing them is just an exaggeration so feminists can play victim
/r/MensRights11/02/24 11:19 AM
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Men are responsible for almost all the heights of human achievements thus far, even in modern times there are women are rare at the top of many fields
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:00 AM
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Those books are ideological in nature and not meant to be taken seriously. We would go right back to the stone age if men disappeared
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:58 AM
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Depends, from a purely biological perspective he's reproduced a bunch of times, that's a kind of value in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:58 AM
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Women have always wanted popular men that other women want, like "he shouldn't cheat but he should be ABLE to if he wanted"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:56 AM
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Some people have always seen partners as trophies, but you're probably missing that most people aren't like that and don't advertise their relationships, so they have a normal partner they love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:55 AM
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Emma Watson leaked? Link please. Already saw Jennifer Lawrence - Meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:46 AM
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Nah, we all gonna remember Drake's dick
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:46 AM
2

There used to be ridiculous leftists screaming about No Nut November and how it leads to fascism or some shit. Real psychosexual stuff going down there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:42 AM
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Confident assholes have always attracted women, that's just common sense throughout history. It signals strength and high social status, regardless of moral shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:25 PM
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I would vote for Trump if I was American, regardless of gender issues. Did vote for Modi though.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 12:23 PM
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Fetish implies something not common or normal, which is true of chubby chasers. Women liking tall men is as normal as men liking thin women, big tits, nice ass, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:08 PM

This is true everywhere in the world, not just the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:04 PM
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maybe we should, lol
/r/MensRights25/01/24 07:57 PM
1

Fictional characters and celebrities shouldn't count. One isn't a realistic person and the other you don't know everything about. He could have his demons in his private life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:55 PM
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I think both are right, but both are larping. The liberal world system must come down first before anything can be discusses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:51 PM
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Therapy does nothing for most people, dont fall for the scam. Tf do you need therapy to date anyway? You;'re better off finding a older man to tell you what to do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:46 PM
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In terms of behavior, sometimes But the younger women are generally hotter and that's a big part of male attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:51 AM
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I'm fine with them hating short guys as long as nobody tries to deplatform me for hating fat ugly chicks
/r/MensRights17/01/24 08:47 AM
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Damn this sub got it out for Indian guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:34 AM
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I'm pretty sure everyone gets that.... historically attraction was always about the man's status and resources. Not saying appearance doesn't count, but I've seen matchmakers make lists of men that only record their job, education level, and income and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:31 AM
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Here in India people still meet in real life At least I did
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:29 AM
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Women have always wanted fun over the "secure option", that's nothing new lol. Smart guys with good jobs are often quite boring. Smart guys who are exciting usually share interests with the woman, and often it's something dorky that many women don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:19 PM
0

The Musk isn't an autist, my bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:11 PM
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Half the time autistic women don't even sound autistic because women are naturally better at socializing. And besides, most guys labelled autistic aren't clinically autistic, just socially awkward or shy. They can improve with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:10 PM
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Those women scream about those things for the same reason incel men scream about how awful women are... they're losers in the sexual marketplace and are taking it out on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:15 PM
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Unabomber: The industrial revolution and its effects on humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:14 PM
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Okay but this is kind of a strawman. Only guys who listen to those shows think most women are whores. And most guys don't watch those shows
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:12 PM
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Most men aren't afraid of being settled for unless the woman is very blatant about it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:05 AM
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Kind of, yes. Young love is a very different and uniquely fun experience
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:05 AM
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Like, literally autistic? Or just awkward? Clinical autism is an illness and can't really be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:51 PM
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And Iceland is already very egalitarian.
/r/MensRights26/12/23 12:45 PM
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I didn't even know there were that many people in Iceland.
/r/MensRights26/12/23 12:44 PM
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Huh, if you listen to the Western media South Korea is supposedly not gynocentric at all, but super patriarchal.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 06:17 AM
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immature to say "I'm not the problem, society is" Women say this all the time, in fact they deflect any criticism towards them as a group to men or society in general Women need to do better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:54 AM
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They never think that women need to be better, do they? Just blame the other sex
/r/MensRights26/11/23 09:30 AM
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That depends on what you mean by misogyny. Judging women, talking about sex, not sounding "nice", saying things that make women uncomfortable. All those are normal parts of being men, which the feminist cult deems misogynistic. And note, women gossip the way about men behind closed doors.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 05:06 PM
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Both are inherent and only vary to an extent between cultures. Blank slatism is for brainlets
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:04 PM
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It's just another one of those things where women pretend to understand men. Most guys don't relate to each other because we don't want to, don't care, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:03 PM
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History says otherwise, honestly. Declaring "X is female" is like an attempt at forcing 50/50 outcomes in everything, basically.
/r/MensRights12/11/23 06:38 PM
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Sure, but overall the "men resent a more successful partner" thing is totally overblown, most men don't care as long as the relationship is good. The real reason men are competitive is because women pick winners to mate with. That's how it is in pretty much all animals, including us. Frankly it's bizarre to twist this into a competition with the female, which is a minor and recent phenomenon at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:28 PM
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Have you tried not being progressive? I guess that whole "marriage is an outdated patriarchal institution" isn't really that common a take even among leftists. Though you do hear it from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:24 PM
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According to RP, hypergamy is just normal female nature (and maybe it is). So... what did you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:22 PM
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And for a totally pointless war. Vietnam would've probably shifted away from communism by itself and started developing its economy like it does now, but decades earlier.
/r/MensRights12/11/23 08:19 AM
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It's probably because a man that hasn't had sex until 30 or later is seen as an indicator of something wrong with him. And often that's true. He's a puritan, he's anti-social, he's an awful person, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:59 AM
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Well, there's AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:56 AM
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"Red pill" is just normal for most men outside the west. The stuff I hear guys say here isn't considered a pill, just... common sense. There's a lot of brainwashing in western schools and it still doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:35 AM
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Generally, no, most men don't like fat girls. But do you mean fat or thicc? Lots of men like thicc curvy girls, but this has been misdefined as fat girls. As for truly obese girls, well there's always a small number of fetishists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:04 PM
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Well it is in fact a woman's fault if she's a liar or bad person The problem is that dudes overestimate how many shitty women there are
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:57 AM
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Agree, but in the case of real (but sexy) assholes, women will use mental gymnastics to convince themselves he's not actually an asshole, "he's just joking around", etc. Plus, the line between assertive confidence easily crosses into genuine asshole territory. The "naturally assertive nice guy" is a balancing act that only a small number of men can manage
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:54 AM
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Right, they don't. Dudes mistaking what women say for what they actually do. Most men can get someone if they tried
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:51 PM
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The online Gender Wars makes people view the world as more hostile than it actually is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:51 PM
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You're thinking of pickup artists. Masculinity will always lean right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:50 PM
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Dudes here who haven't been with women don't know how much trouble they are. It's like 10% reward 90% work sometimes. They imagine they're missing out on something that doesn't actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:41 PM
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Depends how fat they are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:27 PM
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Here in India we don't have it this bad yet, thankfully.
/r/MensRights08/10/23 09:25 PM
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Biological differences, sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive. Wouldn't mind discouraging it for both sexes though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:40 AM
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Reddit heavily biases towards the left and either bans or shadow bans dissenters
/r/MensRights08/10/23 02:38 AM
1

That depends on the woman and how much the dude loved her I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:28 AM
0

The "Red Pill" is really just common sense people have known for all of history that's been covered up by leftist orthodoxy in the last 60 years or so. That includes women too. You don't need to listen to Tate to see that male and female are not equals and inherently different in many aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:28 AM
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If not buying into the egalitarian cult then most men in the world are red pilled, and arguably most women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:25 AM
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you don't gotta do indian guys like that bro, damn
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:15 PM
2

I seriously doubt any significant number of dudes actually have an AI girlfriend. What they mean is AI porn, which isn't that different from just old fashioned porn
/r/MensRights27/09/23 02:15 PM
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No, why would it be? She doesn't know, it's done in private, it's your choice, nobody is hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:39 AM
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K but divorce should still be discouraged
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:04 AM
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i dont get what you mean everyone wants to be special to their partners, but most people aren't special compared to the general population. And almost all relations are people settling for each other. That's just how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:55 AM
1

nah plenty of stupid ass dudes with wives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:35 AM
1

yeah, women don't know what they want. it's all instinctual lizard brain stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:26 AM

This depends which country I'm in In my own country: Yes In the West: depends, prob not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:24 AM
2

that but also because men remain reproductively viable for longer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:51 PM
2

well yeah, the whole beauty industry is based on wanting to look younger and hotter never buy the whole "women want to look nice for themselves" schtick
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:20 AM
1

Aggression is high T and socially dominant, that's why it's attractive. It's contradictory for women to want aggressive guys who won't get aggressive with them It's like how dudes want sexually adventurous women, but not with other guys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:17 PM
1

almost everyone ends up settling unless they plan to be alone. Thats just how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:01 PM
1

where do you live? Guys approach women all the time, everywhere here in India
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:00 PM
13

eh... not really any dude who wants a partner with low body count will caused a frenzied ruckus from women, even if that dude has a low body count himself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:18 AM
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Women are very averse to being judged or blamed for anything because it lowers their SMV, deflecting blame is their sexual strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:16 AM
1

There are some things in there worth listening to, the downside is weird blackpill doomer shit. There hasn't been an uptick in shaming language, much of what's being shamed used to be enforced by society if not laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:32 PM
1

no need for that, there is an age wall for men as well, just not as early compared to women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:30 PM
1

90% of people settle for their partners but no body wants to hear it said to them, it's like saying "you're not that good but you're the best i can get"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:22 AM
1

traditional masculinity is toxic masculinity lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:53 AM
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most of what academia calls "toxic" is really just normal behavior. What they mean is that it isn't "nice" behavior... which is also normal, especially for competitive males, i.e. the most desirable males
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:52 AM
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physical preferences are largely the same for all humans, regardless of minor variations and exceptions like fetishes and whatnot. NAXALT and all that is just cope lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:47 AM
3

peak western culture
/r/MensRights31/08/23 03:23 AM
2

Can i see a source on this statistic? the gap seems ridiculously large
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:27 AM
1

maybe, but you gotta do my man Aziz like that tho? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:13 AM
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No, because I know most women (and men) aren't like the ones here Anyone who writes hundreds of comments every day on dating forums is butthurt on some level regardless of how happy they claim to be. Just relax and go outside folks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:52 AM
3

ehh... i've seen plenty of doomers claiming that only top men can get laid. It's kinda why I never got into red pill anyway, despite being anti-feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:36 PM
8

i see broke dudes with gfs all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:29 PM
0

It IS disproven when you see normal guys dating women everywhere. The reason is what people WANT isn't what they actually date in real life. Most men want a 10/10 supermodel, but date average chicks. No reason to assume that women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:04 PM
1

lol did you make that account to troll this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:31 PM
7

In the west sexism means any kind of distinction between male and female, it's a toothless accusation at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:15 PM
1

I have a gf, live in a house with many extended family members, in a crowded neighborhood, and still feel pretty lonely sometimes. It's not even about the sex, it's about companionship, sex is the cherry on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:12 PM
1

People can tell how tall/fat someone is just by looking, i don't know why they bother asking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:06 PM
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The guy was never supposed to be a muscly action hero, he's a normal dude Lizzo is just downright disgusting and not the norm at all. Her fame comes from making women feel better about themselves by comparison.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 11:13 PM
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Right, people here confusing lust with love and devotion. All men end up lusting after younger women, most just dont act on it and "not want her anymore" is a huge exaggeration. Maybe not as physically attracted anymore, but he'll still love her as a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:02 PM
5

that's cuz victimhood is a social currency in western societies
/r/MensRights21/08/23 11:24 AM
2

to propagate your genes like all living organisms try to do? having and raising kids was always the hardest job, most thankless job. Thats life man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:33 AM
1

they arent interested in dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:30 AM
1

uhhh men want physically attractive partners no matter what the financial situation is for either party. You mean they AFFORD a hotter woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:29 AM
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teenage girls like pretty boys, once they grow up they like traditionally masculine men. This has always been known
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:26 AM
1

confidence and charisma help greatly in life so naturally women want that. Though it is a big mistake when women assume a guy is great just because he puts on a show. A lot of confident guys are confident because they're stupid and don't know better, not because they have anything to be confident about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:07 AM
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sure but dont expect to find anyone tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:02 AM
2

eh, guys want marriage and kids casual sex is meaningless after the first few times
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:58 PM

OLD blows, social circle still works most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:46 PM
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if this was a dude the media would make it sound like some kind of dangerous cultural trend
/r/MensRights16/08/23 07:33 PM
2

eh that's just part of modern society. Internet amplifies extremism and butthurt. It's better in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:31 PM
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no most men do, experienced or not that's just a cope from high n-count women to try and recover their sexual market value relative to "purer" women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:19 PM
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most of the women's movement is shifting blame from themselves, so i understand is more blame is now being put back on women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:15 PM
3

men refuse to date women all the time, where do you come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:14 PM
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That's because women's attraction varies greatly between individuals and mood/time, not to mention it's more strongly based on invisible traits like status, confidence, etc. While it's pretty obvious what men want because it's visually clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:01 PM
7

Block her
/r/MensRights12/08/23 08:43 PM
3

feminism is designed to shift all societal blame away from women
/r/MensRights05/08/23 06:52 AM
1

if everyone is tall, nobody is tall if everyone is rich, nobody is rich if everyone is pretty, nobody is pretty if everyone is high status, nobody is high status
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:48 AM
1

right, SMW is zero sum and always will be
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:47 AM
1

if you depend on the government for anything more than public roads/schools then youre still dependent
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:46 AM
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If you're in the West then its the least patriarchal its ever been
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:44 AM
2

nah men want to bone every hot woman maybe "love" is a different thing tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:43 AM
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it just means they're horny when they're young, like everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:38 AM

A good looking woman, appearance is 90% to be brutally honest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:37 AM
1

leftists think all humans are 100% equal in all abilities and any difference is caused by environment, hence they believe real-life disparities must be caused by injustice
/r/MensRights04/08/23 07:41 AM
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there's a little bit of truth to all three stereotypes, but in the end if its consensual and not illegal... it's not really a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:37 AM
1

Same reason as male incels: Being rejected, having a bad relationship in the past, reading dumb shit on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:32 AM
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This 17-day old account looks like it was created to make stuff up. You're not as clever as you think, lul
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:30 AM
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the biggest predictors are being fat and having no social skills. Those are worse than being short or broke or an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:07 AM
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That's what i've been saying all along, what people claim they want almost never match what they actually settle for, including young people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:06 AM
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i have never known a man who cares about what level of education a woman has
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:04 AM
2

I mean, don't men want 10/10 supermodels? But the reality is most people date average people because ideal partners are very rare it not non-existent
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:01 AM
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Of course people are happier if their partner is attractive, is that even in question?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:57 AM
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The academic definition of "toxic masculinity" is basically the standard definition of masculinity, just painted in a bad light lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:52 AM
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Elrond is hot, dude
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:32 PM
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a lot of those men are attractive precisely because they're trashy. Women complain about stuff all the time but end up doing them anyway, young guys need to learn not to take the complaints too seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:31 PM
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Not a paradox, they want the alpha bad boy who commits to them and nobody else tale as old as humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:17 PM

Women are afraid of all-male spaces because they think men are plotting against them. Which is sometimes true, but so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:14 PM

This already happens low key in some communities
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:10 PM
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Women have liked tall men since the dawn of humanity, my guy. It's inborn biological preferences that translated into app filters, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:32 PM
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if she was fat in the first place then i'd congratulate her for losing the weight
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:45 PM
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women using guys for free food isnt as common as you think, and few men believe women are angels. You seem to be talking about young guys with no life experience
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:22 PM
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does anyone really think they're entitled to sex? i feel like that's just something women say when they want to put the blame on men for wanting sex -- which isnt the same as feeling entitled to it
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 02:11 AM
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plenty of young broke guys have gfs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:14 AM
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this is blackpilled af lol At the very minimum, the chads out there are doing plenty of selecting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:14 AM
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Career somewhat ugly guys can still find love, unless you mean super duper ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:45 PM
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simping is the default state of most men, tbh. Wish it wasnt so, but it is
/r/MensRights16/07/23 02:37 PM
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most women arent like this in real life, even if there's is an "ick" moment she probbly won't say anything or end the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:02 PM
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they get upset at any male only space tbh
/r/MensRights14/07/23 05:57 PM
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no we dont lol, fat is universally unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:46 PM
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You'd think being straight and not fat would apply to 98% of people, but modern society really did a number on the west and i guess the downside to passporting is that some people want a partner who's like them, same race, same culture, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:30 PM
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that is common knowledge and standard courtship behavior for many mammals
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:28 PM
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that's not what Ick is lol. Yours is a long screed shifting blame to men Ick is an instant, almost biological response to perceived weakness, not a rational thought out analysis based on connecting the dots with past behavior. It is not about how he reacts to getting lost, but getting lost itself is what's perceived as weak
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:25 PM
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My sister once confided in me that she felt disgusted when her husband was sick and curled up in bed with a colorful blanket because it made him look like a helpless 5 year old. HOWEVER, they are still happily married, so I don't think it's a dealbreaker for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:16 PM
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There's a fine line that most men (and maybe women themselves) don't really realize. They want a man who's sensitive at appropriate times, but doesn't come off as a total wuss. Like, crying at your mother's funeral? Okay. But crying all the time over stupid shit? Cringe. I do agree that cocky, "toxic", "traditionally tough" men are rarely maidenless, though. Some women complain about how they hate 'jerks like that', but plenty of women do want guys like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:10 PM
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nah money definitely matters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:37 AM
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millionaire/athlete/models are like 0.001% of guys, and most of them arent hogging 50 women in a harem Therefore unremarkable dudes can still get with an unremarkable girl, since pairings are still 1-to-1 for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:26 AM
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that's pretty much it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:52 AM
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it's not 100 clearly defined but there are obviously some traits that each sex values as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:51 AM
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That's how harems worked in the past But we live in a monogamous, modern society and that doesnt look like it'll change anytime soon
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:50 AM

Internet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:35 AM
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every woman has far more sex appeal than her male equivalent Speak for yourself my dude ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:32 AM
2

I think it's the disgust response: Right wingers have higher disgust responses to unconventional appearances while leftists are fine with them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:31 AM
11

it is from my experience dominance = attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:26 AM
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he could easily get a woman if he had a functioning penis tho
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 09:38 AM
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only works using their bizarre definition of bias
/r/MensRights14/06/23 09:01 AM

they dont wanna split assets, and some guys cant find another woman, or they loved the woman and wanted her to stay. not complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:06 AM
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Much of what you say isn't social conditioning, it's biological in nature. This idea of a "the patriarchy causing all ills", including for men, is based on a feminist misunderstanding of men, and probably a blank slate notion that the oppressive system is cultural in nature and not just a manifestation of masculine competitiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:01 AM
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They're dudes with trap or crossdressing fetishes
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 09:48 AM
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A lot of women on reddit are embittered from having bad relationships or not getting the guy they want, that's why they spend everyday writing like 100 comments. No normal happy person does that And yeah sure there are male equivalents in the manosphere. Best not to judge either sex from what you see on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:21 AM
3

most guys arent gonna tell you this because it hurts feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:11 AM
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Also because people with high N counts tend to be promiscuous and more likely to cheat or dump you. Not to mention potential of getting pregnant from another man, then you're left with raising someone else's spawn
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:10 AM
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Honestly if guys did this it would be considered a hate group and the media would go nuts
/r/MensRights05/06/23 07:51 AM

it's not nice but the fact is that all humans have some kind of value on the sexual/dating market place. Imagine a gross guy vs an attractive guy. Are they of equal value when it comes to relationships? Absolutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:45 AM

most men prefer young fertile women but might be down for a 30 something yr old if she didnt' look too old
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:43 AM
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this isn't the premise of the post, what a strange reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:39 AM
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I honestly don't think anyone, male or female, believes career/education is attractive to men. That's a politically correct thing to say because people don't want to sound shallow. But it's not true. It's a bonus, sure, but hardly the first thing men think about
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:38 AM
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But that doesn't explain how many women end up with mediocre looking men I think you mean that women want a certain level of good looks, but will settle for mediocre guys as long as they're sociable. Men do the same thing And I've seen plenty of women with skinny men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:35 AM
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Yes, not that desperate and not raising someone else's spawn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:59 AM
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most of those groups end up being weird stalking hubs if not slanderous, very toxic environment
/r/MensRights30/05/23 04:07 AM

Equal rights wasnt a good idea lol Thing is some people don't care about their genetic lineage, though I'd argue everybody should. But if they don't have kids they'll die out and leave the breeders to rule the earth, so I guess that works out in the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:03 AM
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Wouldn't pretty women become prettier with makeup as well? So average women with makeup would still look average compare to them, then you're back to square one
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:57 AM
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nobody said that, odd thing to jump to tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:54 AM
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Who thinks this though? Of course the women like it, why else would they agree to the ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:47 AM
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I know for a fact that rich men date broke women, they don't even think much about the women's class at all especially if they're rich and can afford to pay for her For a lot of men physical appearance really does beat everything else, especially rich men who don't need to care if the wife makes money or not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:45 AM
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More importantly they overestimate how much women care about looks, assuming the woman is also average and not Stacy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:43 AM
2

Was it always normal to date multiple ppl at once and pick one in the end? I've never done that and I feel it's a modern thing
/r/MensRights28/05/23 11:52 PM
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seems to speak more to your fears than his
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:36 PM

You sound hurt, clear your mind first Men have always been jealous of women for living 'comfortable lives' throughout history, whether true or not. The paying for dates thing only arose because feminists muddied the waters on whether or not its empowering to pay for your own date. Before that it was just the social norm for men to pay every time whether he wanted to or not. Things worked better that way, with established rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:54 PM
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no it seems more common with women then men. If both sexes did it equally it wouldnt be worth mentioning
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:51 PM
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It's a status thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:50 PM
2

In other words women want commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:48 PM

Do red pillers really say that? I've never heard it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:50 PM
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Shit-starting assholes won't attract every woman, but they seldom go without women. On average they probably are more successful in getting dates
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:49 PM
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most masculine men are toxic on some level, even if it's not immediately apparent. Competitiveness is inseparable from masculinity, and competitiveness always leads to toxic behavior at some point. The current problem is that this is framed as a bad thing, rather than a necessary part of society to keep progress moving forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:45 PM
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tbh I've seen plenty of short, ugly, poor guys with girlfriends, though not super hot girls obviously But I rarely see autistic, anti-social guys with girlfriends. That seems to be the biggest factor by far
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:55 PM
1

Most men aren't respected at all, at most only respected by a few peers/family
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:26 PM
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I mean, she could just ask him what it meant
/r/MensRights18/05/23 03:09 PM
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lol
/r/MensRights18/05/23 03:09 PM
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i know plenty of women who end up with deadbeats just because they're 'cool' or 'artsy'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:28 AM
1

Depends how fat and how broke honestly i dont see a lot of men resenting the rich unless it affects them in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:28 AM

physical attributes generally come first for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:27 AM
1

why would a woman automatically divorce you when she hits 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:53 AM
2

Men going after hot women with character flaws? Never a topic here. It should be. Many Stacies are total assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:57 PM
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Toxic masculinity is hot, that's all there is to it Not every confident guy is toxic, but many of them are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:56 PM
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I agree and this is one of the rare truly insightful things on this sub. I only had a short-term girlfriend in high school that never worked out, but thinking back, it was kind of magical in a way that simply does not compare with adult dating. The naivete of it all, the brand new experience, it's really a once-in-a-lifetime thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:46 AM
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Immutable physical traits are part of attractiveness, unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:39 AM
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I'm pretty sure "sapiosexual" is just a way to not sound shallow and only attracted to physical attributes. Not that people can't be attracted to intelligence, but physical attractiveness is dominant 95% of the time. Smarts are just a cherry on top, or something people with no options "settle" for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:37 PM
1

Hence the need for monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:28 PM
2

this goes for society in general lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:41 PM
-1

a relationship with someone that’s only with you because he’s not able to date someone else this is most relationships my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:57 PM
-1

it's no different than wanting men to lower their standards modern society has made everyone have unrealistic high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:29 PM
15

they just hate everything about masculinity, lol
/r/MensRights23/04/23 04:26 PM
3

This sub has always been a battleground, that's what makes it fun
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:26 AM
18

that marriage doesn’t mean anything, and that « it’s just a piece of paper » This is a western opinion, outside the west marriage is still very important
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:32 AM
0

ah, let's bring back the patriarchal attitudes of the past then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:27 AM
2

nah it is, most men want "pure women"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:25 AM
1

that's just the most basic social contract that underlies civilization. Been this way since the bronze age
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:23 AM

he didn't suggest that interesting how quickly women jump to the "they're gonna force us to marry beta men!" even when nobody brought it up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:21 AM
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you'd be surprised how many normal men would check out if there's no incentive to work towards a family or something
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:19 AM
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assuming you mean western society, i can see that. But what incentive do they have to do anything? If AI can fill that desire for relationships lots of guys would just stay home and do the bare minimum to survive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:18 AM
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The tax thing depends on where you live I love my country, and it's not too feminist, so I will pay taxes to support its future. If I still lived as a minority in the west then I might try to pay as little tax as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:07 AM
2

one of the dumbest quotes parroted by the left class hierarchy and other hierarchies are not mutually exclusive, and never will be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:04 AM
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Being very blatantly and obviously materialistic. Like i know wealth is a part of attraction, but c'mon staring at my clothes, my watch, my car, and only talking to me when you think those things are good enough. C'mon girl, be subtle
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:32 AM
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if there are more men at the extremely intelligent end then the top players would be dominated by men... which is what happens im guessing this is bad optics so they have gendered leagues
/r/MensRights15/04/23 02:14 AM
2

a lot of successful masculine men have attitudes similar to Tate, the "toxic" masculinity is often why they're successful in the first place. Not all, just many. Being an asshole often does confer advantages especially in competition with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:11 AM
1

the concept is overstated in academia and barely exists in real life most men want to fuck AND marry "pure" women, sexually liberal girls are just a second choice because men are thirsty
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:57 AM
3

I think the idea is that the man also needs to be virtuous in a trad sense, and support their woman no matter what granted that's easier said than done
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:44 AM
1

most people arent aware of internet niche ideologies, although this is changing tbh. It's inevitable that what gets discussed online will seep into the real world as exposure to it increases, but you can still get a normal girl who isnt radicalized by feminist nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:30 AM
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i worked part time as a student in while living in the US, and they put us through some diversity training bullshit where every little thing is considered sexism even though there were hardly any women working the job. Just that alone makes me wonder if its worth it
/r/MensRights14/04/23 05:25 AM
1

japan doesnt seem to care about this stuff
/r/MensRights14/04/23 05:18 AM
2

but what explains this?
/r/MensRights13/04/23 05:24 AM
18

they havent lost their sex drive, they just fulfill it by masturbating to cartoons and such
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:37 PM
2

men will never stop simping, its as inborn as breathing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:36 PM
1

Well that's what happens in the first world
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:36 PM
4

If everyone is great, then nobody is great. By definition, wealth/power/beauty is rare and MUST only refer to a minority of elites. It's zero sum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:49 PM
13

notice how they only mention europe, and one went to nepal but hooked up with a european... lol
/r/MensRights10/04/23 10:47 PM
20

This is extremely obvious, especially with insane feminist teachers in the US who will blame boys for everything and assume the worst from them
/r/MensRights10/04/23 05:04 PM
18

because it implies that they are less desirable than non-western women and that hurts them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:21 AM
33

Feminism is meant to maximize women's sexual freedom while minimizing men's. It does so by removing any kind of judgment on women that's what it's always been about. If you want to be very cynical about it, you can think of it as "everything after survival is mate signalling"
/r/MensRights10/04/23 12:17 AM
4

so pretty girls don't like unmasculine men, but men like pretty girls
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:40 PM
11

only a few gestures can make you look like a gay guy i've seen lots of masculine guys talk with their hands
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:37 PM
0

the choices are too outlandish No dude gets sex with whoever they want, and the vast majority of marriages are not sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:35 PM
3

it's still true that non-western women are more traditional i lived in the US for a while and now im back in India and the difference is very clear
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:47 PM
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It depends on how good looking the guy is, that's the criteria nothing wrong with that, the problem is labeling the same behavior with the same descriptor "creepy". Just say you don't want to talk to the dude
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:55 PM
7

"be strong enough to settle for my shortcomings" is sad and transparent gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:13 AM
1

no OF models are a tiny % of the pop, surely there are more fish in the sea
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:12 AM
1

and the left is all about opposing hierarchy, which is inherently desired by many men in one for or another
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:08 AM
1

Being young, good looking, and sociable have always been desired. Haven't people known this forever? It's just a lot of new jargon to describe common sense Preselection is a bit more esoteric though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:06 AM
1

the fact that this was written by a Brookings Institute guy makes me wonder if there really is a conspiracy by elites to beat down men so they can hold onto power, sheesh
/r/MensRights07/04/23 11:11 PM
7

does this mean older women are calling younger women children to make themselves look like an appealing option
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:24 PM
1

male thirst is inborn and unchangeable, there's no point in complaining about it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:18 PM
15

Women's entire social strategy is to redirect blame away from them for everything, because historically it is socially dangerous for them to be blamed for things the problem is that women are in fact to blame for many things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:18 PM
1

yeah but the women saying that aren't trad women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:16 PM
3

toxic masculinity is just regular masculinity for the most part
/r/MensRights07/04/23 11:21 AM
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Reproduction is the most powerful instinct after survival, not finding a mate is literally gene death. So no, I don't buy that women are really okay with being single and childless, at some point they will feel it like everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:46 AM

well no shit, sex is the whole point of male-female pairing i think it's possible to be platonic friends with a woman, but the interest is primarily sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:44 AM
4

you been reading too much sci-fi my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:46 PM
1

i doubt artificial wombs would become widespread and available without some huge legal and political battle, the social implications are just too massive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:45 PM
1

maybe not boobs/ass, but most people can be thin if they have an ounce of discipline
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:26 PM
1

women are expected to be not fat, that's really all. Most dudes will overlook everything else unless her face is literally deformed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:25 PM
1

Much of "toxic masculinity" is just regular masculinity. Being a competitive, shit-starting asshole has always been a part of masculinity, and overall it's not separable from the nicer parts of masculinity like ambition, toughness, etc. They're two sides of the same coin
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:22 PM
1

yeah but thats because men are much thirstier than women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:58 AM
1

It depends, usually it's crazy white chicks who will go nuts if you approach and they dont like you, other women are fine and OLD is even worse now than before because many women have stopped using it and now its an 80% male sausage fest
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:43 AM
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they already had Megalia and WOMAD, which make western feminists look sane by comparison
/r/MensRights31/03/23 05:34 AM
7

if the sexes were reversed this would be a national news story and constantly brought up for years into the future as evidence of how evil men are
/r/MensRights29/03/23 03:06 AM
1

I think it comes down to self-consciousness, guys who aren't as self-conscious just say whatever they want without realizing how they look, or what the consequences might be. Kinda like a young teenager. And that works, for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:08 AM
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Of course women want to get rid of the standards by which they are judged, men do the same. But it goes much deeper than that, into the subconscious: The female brain evolved to be a "black box" to men because if female preferences were fully understandable by males, it can easily be spoofed/faked by all males, thus leading to suboptimal mates in other words, women themselves don't fully understand what they want because this smoke screen prevents them from accidentally telling and giving men al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:52 AM
5

There have always been guys like Tate, he gets most of his PR from the media overreacting to him actually
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:31 AM
14

bro have some standards lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:01 PM
1

yeah, but only slightly overweight by Indian standards, not like obese chicks in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:00 PM
1

no debate of creating virtual AI boyfriends, as it is not necessary at all for women Eh, this might eventually happen. There's a ton of female singles these days, they're not all 'sharing Chad"
/r/MensRights27/03/23 09:54 PM
1

don't be fat and unpleasant i'll pay for stuff, no need to be submissive or an emotional sponge
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:12 AM
0

no they don't, that's how incels are born but here's the catch, bitter angry dudes aren't necessarily wrong in their assessment of women. They just need to learn how to not act bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:01 AM
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women object to younger women because they're prettier and it makes them jealous, the whole 'maturity' thing is just a distraction because they know many men will place physical attractiveness above any mental trait
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:11 PM
10

doesnt need to be white, just fit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:29 PM
2

nobody likes fatties if they had a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:28 PM
3

still a 10, appearance wise sure it's very judgmental, but everyone does it on some level. I seriously doubt women aren't rating men on some scale, even if they don't say it out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:08 AM
0

emma watson a few years ago with bigger boobs men are obsessed with her because of her face, not her body. She has a very pretty, elf like look
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:07 AM
1

the left's idea of male role models are not what most men actually want. It lacks the competitive, hierarchical asshole edge because that aspect of masculinity scares them, and is therefore discarded as "toxic"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:55 AM
2

Leftism is by nature, delusional about human differences and therefore cannot be red pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:54 AM
1

bruh c'mon
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:30 PM
1

resources in exchange for sex is basically the mating dynamic for humans and many mammals
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:26 PM
1

It's natural for men and women to hate each other, War of the Sexes etc. It's inevitable given the game theory of the sexual marketplace: Some/many will get shafted, not find a mate, or a mate they desire, and end up resenting the other sex. It's been happening since the dawn of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:32 AM
1

they're assuming anyone who's racist is also sexist, which by leftist standards is often true but only by leftist standards
/r/MensRights19/03/23 10:46 PM
3

its just the modern equivalent of calling you disagree with a virgin
/r/MensRights19/03/23 08:59 PM
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the primal instinct is probably due to the idea that a female isn't already "taken" or recently impregnated by another male, or is disloyal. Its not irrational at all I get that women like sex and dont want to be judged, but men generally prefer purity/low counts
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:23 PM
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i'm an Indian man and i dated a white women when i went to college in the US, saw lots of other south asian guys with other races too the study is showing internet dating not real life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:11 PM
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it restricts the dating pool into categories divided by weight whereas historically there were no such restrictions, allowing for greater freedom in choice of partners
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:27 PM
2

neither men or women find fat people attractive, they just end up settling cus they have no choice obesity is driving tension and resentment between the sexes. We must start shaming and judging fatties
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:25 PM
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why cant you listen to those guys? the fact that those guys offend mainstream liberal sensibilities is EXACTLY why you should listen to them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:17 PM
2

gender equality, porn and video games
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:06 AM
1

any preference/judgment about women triggers them as a collective whole, because it constrains their sexual market value like if you said "I don't like fat chicks" and your gf isn't fat, she still feels bad because it's judgmental.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:03 AM
5

right, women date bad boys because they're hot and they're hot because they're bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:55 PM
1

well that's not traditional then, tradition assumes the woman is a SAHM
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:45 PM
1

they want a bang daddy. or sugar daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:37 PM
1

depends how hot the other dude is, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:36 PM
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and complain to administration Even if it doesnt go anywhere at least it puts crazy feminists on notice so she'll think twice before pulling this stunt again
/r/MensRights14/03/23 10:04 AM
26

A lot of teachers are just overgrown kids stuck in the education system
/r/MensRights14/03/23 10:04 AM
1

this is propaganda to get me to date fat chicks isnt it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:21 AM
2

use paragraphs my dude but i agree with you otherwise
/r/MensRights12/03/23 04:47 AM
7

women get unrealistic standards from fiction and media too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:43 AM
4

financial incentives never raise birth rates by much. It's all down to first-world mentality, really
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:02 AM
5

i eat healthy, have an okay job, and coom in my clean apartment, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:00 AM
3

they know that hordes of lonely men means bad things for society, destabilization, radicalization, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:59 AM
1

If people just wanna cum then they can simply watch porn I think there's more to attraction than just sex, ther's also a need for companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:57 AM
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There aren't, no reliable study ever showed this. I can believe there is some disparity but it can't possibly be twice as much. Odds are women are defining what "single" or "dating" means differently than men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:49 AM
2

legally speaking most countries already have gender equality feminists want far more than that
/r/MensRights10/03/23 12:09 AM
2

this sub is pretty mild, all the more radical, non-liberal subs get banned
/r/MensRights09/03/23 05:48 AM
2

yeah i wish every day was mens day, lmao
/r/MensRights09/03/23 05:47 AM
1

not necessarily, i've seen women from the Philippines and stuff basically wait on their foreign husband and act like a servant without him being traditional but they do clearly have ulterior motives like economic gain, citizenship, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:12 PM
4

men who need companionship the most and that are chronically lonely are often the men Who struggle to generate attraction the most well, no shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:07 PM
1

much of feminism is trying to make it so women arent judged for their bad decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:02 PM
2

this sounds like its more about race and income
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:13 AM
-3

never, it's part of biology
/r/MensRights07/03/23 12:05 AM
0

equality has always been oppression to begin with, since privilege and hierarchy is normal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:03 AM
3

men are the people who do things in general, good or bad. The drive to start wars is the same drive that builds civilizations were it up to feminists we'd all be living in straw huts discussing what is or isn't socially acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:02 AM
1

yeah and if you talk about women's flaws its misogynist. cringe shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 12:00 AM
1

having beauty standards is fine, both sexes should have them. The problem is that women get existentially mad when they see a hotter woman while men mostly just go "yeah, good for him" if we see a hotter man
/r/MensRights06/03/23 01:50 AM
1

social media driving people apart bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:23 AM
2

maybe in the past it was, these days not really, no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:36 AM
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i swear the internet, mass media, and such have raised standards for everyone. Everybody wants the best of what they see. In the old days you'd just get with some average guy/gal from your village or something
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:12 AM
-2

it's time to fatshame him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:11 AM
1

and trying to maximize the sexual market value of ugly chicks
/r/MensRights04/03/23 09:48 PM
2

this entire thing is just older women jealous of younger women nothing more to it than that
/r/MensRights04/03/23 09:47 PM
1

based dwarf-chaser
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:42 PM
13

male tsunderes are hot amirite
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:58 PM
0

it's good to have standards folks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:57 PM
0

"Not all X" is a pointless cop out to avoid the conversation. Nobody is saying that every single woman/man is the same. But that there are noticable trends and behavioral patterns exhibited by a good number of people in any demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 05:34 PM
1

"bad boys" are usually more masculine, the testosterone is what causes them to rebel against societal norms in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 05:30 PM
1

a lot of 'toxic' masculinity is just normal masculinity being competitive, as well as the assholish behavior that comes with it, is simply a part of being male. And women reward that behavior by getting with the winner
/r/MensRights03/03/23 05:26 PM
1

yeah i just peddle conservative agitprop without any pills lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:37 PM
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and therapists arent nearly as helpful as the media claims Most of the time it really is just a stranger listening to you blather on for an hour about a bunch of shit they don't care about. And you can tell they don't care, lol
/r/MensRights02/03/23 01:08 AM

same thing when guys read feminist forums
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:59 PM
1

will say again, western society absolves women of blame for everything by nature women fear being blamed and judged, this is primal and instinctual. But like any other group they are not flawless and deserve some of the blame
/r/MensRights28/02/23 05:51 PM
0

meh i think its both. I've seen ugly dudes pull hot gfs just because they're funny, or sociable, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:44 PM
-1

Agree, women pretend to be happy and 'badass' when they're obviously not, no reason to think this is different
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:42 PM
2

it's always mens fault
/r/MensRights27/02/23 11:55 AM
1

male success depends in part on dominating others, that's how it's always been
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 11:47 AM
7

90% of people settle at some point in their lives. Generally they chase the hottest partner when they're young (and usually fail)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 11:45 AM
1

if you read the fat acceptance communities, they sound a lot of incels. Same weird justifications, mental gymnastics, denying reality..
/r/MensRights26/02/23 05:14 PM
4

walking away from disputes is probably the nicest thing to do when it gets heated
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:39 PM
10

there is no reason, in fact single women do the same thing. "Live for myself", screw having a spouse
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:41 AM
1

the idea is that ugly ppl have no choice and must be nice to secure a gf. Beggars cant be choosers. Im sure thats true sometimes, but like you said not always
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:40 AM
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it doesnt matter what they say, women will always be deep down repulsed by displays of weakness even if they claim to be super egalitarian
/r/MensRights25/02/23 06:27 AM
1

people had more kids in the past when they were poorer, had no government support, and when men were even more patriarchal The real reason for low modern birth rates is that people (including men) don't want to give up their money and leisure time for a 18-year job with no pay. In the past people either didn't have a choice or didn't know any better
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:30 AM
11

western society is geared towards absolving women of blame for any social ills
/r/MensRights23/02/23 06:49 AM
2

some women have always chased older, more accomplished men. nothing new there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:05 AM
1

depends which country where i am 90% of dudes would be conservative by US standards
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:03 AM
1

impossible, simping is hardwired into the male brain for like 70% of dudes
/r/MensRights22/02/23 03:54 AM
1

depends if my country is threatened or not, obviously not going off on some stupid excursion to fight random people halfway around the world. Though im Indian so that would probably never happen
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:46 AM
1

i think the odds of a world war in my life time is low
/r/MensRights20/02/23 03:38 AM
1

in my experience it clearly is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:51 AM
2

AI can do that too my bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:39 AM
1

you could already say the same for porn or manually made art the real game changer will be intelligent partners that can carry realistic conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:38 AM
1

lots of women love guys who can cook and wrangle the kids agree that few men actually care about making less than their wives. if my wife made 10x what i did, i'd be jumping for joy (assuming she doesn't rub it in my face)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 01:09 AM
1

It exacerbates all social divisions, and it aint going away anytime soon
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:35 PM
2

like you said, benefits and incentives never raise the birth rate by much. Unless the state can provide a HUGE benefit it won't change anything It's all down to mentality. People (yes including men) don't want to sacrifice their comfy lifestyles for a 18-year, 24/7 job with no pay
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:55 PM
8

the whole thing is based on them being jealous of younger women, everything else is window dressing
/r/MensRights14/02/23 06:27 AM
13

feminism is meant to absolve women of all blame for everything
/r/MensRights14/02/23 06:26 AM
2

thats a lotta words to say very little, tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:25 AM
3

and if all other things being equal, they'd choose the low status guy over the high status guy? c'mon bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:23 AM
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