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Good hygiene is a good idea, but it is mostly relevant only if she likes you. How do you get her emotions working for you?
/r/seduction11/01/26 06:10 AM
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This level of skill is achievable! You should be able to assess a woman or a room, make your strategy and have your target emotionally committed to going home with you before closing time. This romance is a prelude to your seduction of her back at your place. This involves your communicating persuasively with her emotions. Are you ready to do that?
/r/seduction11/01/26 06:06 AM
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This is a very logical response, but remember that women and seduction are driven by emotions and irrationality. What is your strategy for mastering those aspects of femininity?
/r/seduction11/01/26 05:58 AM
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This is such a good question. I’ve gone to bondage clubs and a sex party or two, but I’m not that into the scene, so I wouldn’t recommend that as your first option. I’d recommend local speed dating companies that set up IRL meet-ups with insane ratios (three girls for every guy), and there are always girls there who are looking to start something. This will also give you practice observing women in their various moods, so you’ll be able to read them better and select DTF females wherever you hap…
/r/seduction03/10/25 07:12 AM
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Does this post sound authentic to anyone? Do you believe that OP has seen all these perfect 10 women dating unimpressive, average men? Typically, when it does happen, money is involved (he’s rich; she wants to be). If only emotions are involved, (1) he usually met her young and they have known each other for a long time OR (2) he’s a lucky orbiter who caught her during a vulnerable time in her life OR (3) he has superior game and has developed her into a lover despite the looks-gap.
/r/seduction18/01/25 03:02 AM
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This is an excellent post on Push/Pull!! I've been away from this subreddit for a while, but this post gives me hope that things are better now. Regarding Push/Pull, I'd only add that you should not overuse it once you get good at it (the temptation may well be there). Endless Push/Pull turns girls off—just as endless humor does. Give her the emotions to build rapport and compliance, then use that emotional capital, relational momentum, and emerging trust to pull her logistics (” So what are you…
/r/seduction18/01/25 02:44 AM
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First, I think you should master your kissing game because that’s your best shot of heating her up for the main event. It’s the heart of foreplay.
/r/seduction23/04/24 05:01 AM
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It's a good idea to talk about different subjects, so congrats on that, but the idea of being compelling is more about intimacy and emotion. Concerning intimacy, you want to have some conversation at several different levels of intimacy. So, in the beginning, it will be the usual superficial level of intimacy reserved for strangers and acquaintances: “OMG, the humidity in Houston is like living in a dog’s mouth.” Then you go a little deeper about a more personally relevant subject: “Speaking of …
/r/seduction28/08/22 10:39 AM
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Good going, OP. You open and hooked the girl, and you even got her out on an instadate and number closed. Great. There is a big danger/problem with being a conversational “One-trick pony” who only and always talks to the girl about the same subject. You can bore her, causing her leave you despite the initial affinity. You seem to be doing this with this girl over your shared ADHD mental health issue, but this is a pretty common issue for lots of beginners before they learn relationship skills, f…
/r/seduction26/08/22 07:25 PM
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It’s a new age. When I was 20 (I’m in my 40’s), my friends and I were having sex more than is common now, but was normal for popular guys back then. We got as much sex as we could. Despite that, we were still really horny and hormonal so we just never said “no” to willing girls. It was unheard of. You are a sharp guy, so it’s weird to hear that things are so different now. Why are so many of 20-somethings walking away from sex? There are record setting levels of male virginity in your age group,…
/r/seduction12/02/22 08:41 PM
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WTF!? A girl actually tries to pull you from the venue to fuck, but you decide instead to keep cold approaching? And then no lay? Please tell us your basic demographics (age range, country where gaming occurred, etc.) Who is teaching this?
/r/seduction12/02/22 06:17 PM
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THIS.
/r/seduction12/02/22 05:41 PM
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I’m in bed right now with a girl I met at work!! lol It happens all the time. Our careers are fine. Look, your mating choice is actually much more strategically important for your life than is your place of employment, so if she's the One you want to target, then don’t let the workplace thing stop you. (Your job workwise is to develop high-value skills and become a profit center, then employers are a dime a dozen.) But the real concern seduction-wise is (1) why you were rejected and (2)how to ge…
/r/seduction12/02/22 05:33 PM
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Wise up. Most of you guys sound like you’re in your 20’s. Your wives probably aren’t even born yet. That is, if you play your cards right, one day you’ll be 45 years old and fucking a twenty year old chick. You will love it. Should you spend time cold approaching whilst your life is in the shit? A question only a horny man would ask. Nah, get your life together would be my advice, but the other choice isn’t bad.
/r/seduction12/02/22 06:36 AM
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Yeah, depending on the girl, holding hands can build both comfort and attraction, so it’s a good idea and a usually socially acceptable way to physically escalate. Just be smooth about it and wait for good timing, like crossing the street with her or leading her around a club.
/r/seduction08/02/22 05:24 AM
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Nothing will make you feel better than moving the relationship forward and fucking the chick. That was your original intention, right? And this is a seduction forum, so why not seduce? And don’t be Petty Roosevelt. Petty is a bad look that doesn’t get you laid. Best advice: Treat every girl as if she is both one IN a million (ie special) and one OF a million (as in you can pull tons of other girls if you wanted to).
/r/seduction08/02/22 01:45 AM
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Step 1: Read each advice idea given. Step 2: Ask, Will this advice get me laid? Step 3a: If "yes" or "maybe" then try it. Step 3b: If "no" then ignore the "advice" Step 4: Figure out who to listen to for advice based on Step 3a and 3b. Parting question: if their advice in 3b isn’t designed to get you laid, then what is it designed to do? Why are they posting in a seduction forum if they can’t give you advice that helps you to seduce people?
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:08 AM
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How tall are you?
/r/seduction24/01/22 12:45 AM
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Your ex felt used instead of valued, and you hurt her feelings. Feeling used is a sexual inhibitor for most healthy women, while feeling valued makes most women want you more. FWB does mean the two of you are friends, so you still need to care about her feelings. Where’s all the aggression coming from?
/r/seduction23/01/22 01:43 AM
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This is exactly why you read, watch, and learn game from guys who already figured this shit out 20 years ago and wrote books, articles, programs, etc. about it. Preselection as a principle of female attraction is actually very well known and can/should be used by you to seduce. You guys will save a lot of time when you stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just learn the material that’s out there until you have enough experience to add your insights to the library of game.
/r/seduction20/01/22 02:39 AM
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You can learn Good Game from either men or women, wtf--isn’t this obvious?? There is so much Game to read, learn, and practice that you’d think Gen Z would be outperforming GEN X, but instead Gen Z is the least laid group of males ever studied, complete with articles about Gen Z having the highest rates of virginity on record. The young guys have mostly learned nothing and read nothing about Game. They ask beginner questions. They are terrible at Game and refuse to learn. They mindlessly talk ab…
/r/seduction19/01/22 12:46 AM
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Tl;dr: OP is a novice with oneitis. He should be moving things forward by fucking other chicks behind this girl's back and/or making her jealous with the attention he's getting from other girls. This sounds like high school level communication because after two months of no sex, he still can’t get an answer to the basic question "why aren’t we fucking right now?" He should suspect that she has a local guy she's fucking because this makes no sense as written.
/r/seduction04/01/22 05:23 PM
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Lol. This is a dark side of Game called AMOG--alpha male other guy--where sometimes you are the AMOG and other times someone else is. When you GET AMOG'd it absolutely sucks. It happened to me early on and yes, I know firsthand how it sucks. (Too bad you skipped the reading on how to protect yourself). [rant: To GenZ, GenX was publishing on all of this 20 fucking years ago. Do you honestly think reinventing the wheel is where you should spend your time?? And what’s this I read about the skyrocke…
/r/seduction02/01/22 01:53 AM
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I think that you’re telling the truth. I think you’ve been great. Thanks for the insights.
/r/seduction31/12/21 12:05 AM
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Let me tell you: if you get involved in a romantic relationship lying between partners will happen. 100% facts. Your username sounds like you are a young lady, but you’re probably already old enough to know that people lie in relationships. Sometimes they want to hide truths that they fear would cause their partners to reject them. I have some compassion for them. They got genetically fucked by being short, and now they are sort of like Beauty and the Beast, except they’re short instead of beast…
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:53 PM
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Life is unfair, sadly. We are having a nice discussion, but my comments are down-voted while yours are not. :'( If you are really into the study of deception, btw, check out Dr. Paul Ekman--the real life doctor the show Lie to Me was based on. Pretty much everyone lies everyday, studies show. At least you have empathy. Take care.
/r/seduction30/12/21 06:48 AM
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If you saw him with his shoes off, it sounds like you guys fucked!!! Lol, good thing he lied before you guys shagged. You probably felt like guys feel when the girl stuffs her bra or something. But seriously, once you know how hard short guys have it in the dating market, it’s pretty understandable why they go to great lengths to compensate, including hormones, lifts, lies, etc.--sort of compensatory measures, like make up, wigs, etc. is for women who are not naturally beautiful. People with bad…
/r/seduction30/12/21 06:20 AM
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Wait, you're not OP, and my comment was meant for him. As a girl you fall under the "you don’t learn to fish by asking a fish how to fish" rule--you ask a fisherMAN who starves if he fails. Better yet, ask a fat fisherman with a high body count how to fish/pickup. I’m that guy. I’m luckily naturally tall, so I could be overly aggressive here, but I’d still advise beating the height screening question with deception and at least making it to a face to face meeting. Maybe she’ll like his smile so …
/r/seduction30/12/21 05:36 AM
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You totally misunderstand social circle. Social circle is where you learn about how girls are different so you can calibrate more effectively. You don’t try to shag every girl you know. Wtf are you smoking?! Lots of great options here. So maybe you get valuable feedback from her about how you’re vibing from a girl's perspective. Or maybe you get one of the girls to pivot for you and act as a wingman. Or maybe she tells you which girls are into you. Just bringing a girl along to social settings i…
/r/seduction30/12/21 05:19 AM
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Saturday is prime time, so it’s expected that she's booked up. Good on you for going for the gold, though. (And it sounds like you’ve got yourself a cutie) Still, it’s better to have a sooner lunch date, if possible. Bonus: If you are compelling enough, she may shag you for dessert at lunch or she may open up her Saturday for you and bump the other guy. Find a way to share space with this girl before the big date. What's she into? Where are you going to take her?
/r/seduction30/12/21 05:06 AM
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OP, why are you scheduling your dates so far out???
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:42 AM
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Can you lie and say 6 foot? I’d do that and wear cowboy boots or lifts for those last two inches. Six foot tall seems to matter a lot to chicks.
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:37 AM
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Don’t start with cold approach!!
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:02 AM
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I love AFC Adam Lyons' story of how he would use preselection, ie attraction based on a girl's tendency to desire men who other girls desire, and make a great result. He would invite a bunch of girls to hang with him at a nightclub, having arranged a deal with the club beforehand that he would get free VIP if he brought enough girls in. So the girls got in for free and got some free drinks (and could hang with Adam in VIP) if they showed up. Enough girls always showed. So, all the other girls in…
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:00 AM
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I’m not in Toronto, but this is a very cool use of the subreddit. Good luck!!
/r/seduction30/12/21 03:31 AM
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If you watch that guy's video and think he’ll get you laid with his "inner game" bullshit, then you deserve your painful ass virginity/low body count existence. GTFO!!
/r/seduction30/12/21 03:25 AM
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Let’s have a rule that you can only recommend cold approach AFTER you’ve fucked five people by cold approaching them. This way, only legit cold approachers who know what it takes to succeed can recommend this tactic. Christ, zero lay count virgins who want a gold medal and parade in their honor if they even get a phone number close have this persistent delusion that they’ll walk up to girls and cold approach like some pre-woke 007, solving all their dating problems. THAT’S BULLSHIT. Cold approac…
/r/seduction30/12/21 03:14 AM
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Why is the original post deleted 4 hours after posting?? Why does this sort of thing happen so often in this subreddit?
/r/seduction29/12/21 07:26 PM
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100% would want a rich guy!!
/r/seduction29/12/21 07:20 PM
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IF YOU ARE NOT COMPELLING TO THE GIRL, YOU WILL BE TREATED LIKE SHIT.
/r/seduction29/12/21 06:02 PM
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One kiss means you are not a complete loser. What do you have to offer a girl?
/r/seduction29/12/21 04:13 AM
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Nice phone number close. Congrats.
/r/seduction29/12/21 04:08 AM
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Go cold approach and tell us how you do!
/r/seduction29/12/21 04:06 AM
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Psychology has added so much to my life, game, and insight. Marital arts training has also added a lot. But this idea that the way to get laid is to earn girls' affection by self development and logically appealing to what women "should" want is blue pilled bullshit. There are many ways to pick a lock/seduce a chick, and blue pill is just one of them. And not a good one at that.
/r/seduction26/12/21 10:42 PM
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Don’t be pessimistic. Attraction, like laughter, is an involuntary action. And just like a good comedian can make you laugh even if you don’t want to, a talented seducer can get you in the mood, even if you didn’t start out that way. Just think if you were a spy with orders to seduce--you have to get that target seduced and get those secrets! It’s a skill. This subreddit resists discussing seduction as a skill--like lock picking--and insists on turning it into a self-improvement, workout advice …
/r/seduction26/12/21 05:14 AM
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Movies are fine for a first date and you can catch dinner (or just a dessert or drink) after the movie. This is actually a classic first date, but it works well because the movie can get her in the mood and give the two of you a guaranteed shared experience, while the drink/dessert part builds comfort and intimacy, setting you up for sex later that night or after future dates. The movie you watch is key--it has to be good. I hear the new Spiderman is good and probably romantic enough to help get…
/r/seduction24/12/21 03:17 PM
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Why not take them both?
/r/seduction23/12/21 03:49 PM
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Of course. You da man, bro. But can you do it again so we can make sure it wasn’t dumb luck?
/r/seduction17/12/21 05:12 AM
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TL;dr: The post should have read, "I GOT LUCKY WITH A 'YES' GIRL WHO WANTED VACATION SEX SO SHE LITERALLY PICKED ME UP AND PULLED ME TO HER ROOM." This post is about female pickup of a guy, not a guy's pickup of a girl.
/r/seduction17/12/21 04:35 AM
1

If you are looking for 20-somethings, then you are talking about gaming Gen Z, not GenX. Gen Z women use Seeking Arrangements (now just called "Seeking") as a dating app to connect them to older, successful type men in their 30's and 40's who can afford to take them out, who give useful advice, and who throw them extra cash when they’re in a jam or wanting a new doodad. Plenty of the girls are hot, fit, DTF, and appreciate what you bring to the table, assuming that you and she hit it off as you …
/r/seduction14/12/21 06:01 PM
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Yes, orbiters--those guys who hang around in the girl's friend zone waiting patiently for her to have some life crisis or drunkenness that leads to her finally letting him hit it--do sleep with their desired female some of the time. This is why orbiting exists as a mating strategy--it sometimes works and is the orbiter's best chance at mating success. The girl he orbits is hotter than him, so he always mate guards her carefully, looking jealous all the time. He tends to use guilt and gifts to ma…
/r/seduction14/12/21 04:02 PM
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TI;dr: OP gets hit with some teasing banter from a buddy's GF and can’t tell if she's hitting on him or just self-amusing. So this is just yet another version of the "is she romantically/sexually interested in me or not" question. She's not sexually interested in OP (girls don’t treat Chad this way), but she does enjoy fucking with him in public over his sexual insecurities (ie low body count and being gay).
/r/seduction14/12/21 03:42 PM
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You have to read the girl's emotional expression, body language, and nonverbals to decide how or best calibrate your physical escalation. If she wants to get right to sex, you should be ripping off your clothes just as fast as she's ripping off hers. If she needs more comfort and trust, then maybe you do handholding, conversation, etc. first. Recognizing and meeting her emotional needs to get to the next stage of physical escalation is what seduction is all about.
/r/seduction13/12/21 03:14 PM
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Of course we will listen, but you must find his fantasy to turn him on so much that he never stops fucking you. Then, all problems are solved.
/r/seduction12/12/21 08:52 PM
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Did you get good eye contact from the girl before approaching? Did you get any other approach invitations from her? Are you hotter than she is? If yes to any of these three, then direct approach. Otherwise, consider either a neutral or friendly opener to show her you’re a socially poised guy before you hit on her.
/r/seduction28/11/21 06:23 AM
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Non-premium guys can still get laid because (1) women do not have a perfect system of pussy allocation even when there is a single preferred male type and (2) women usually make sexual decisions emotionally, especially in college. That’s the good news. You are not being frozen out of the pussy market. This is why learning Game and changing her emotions is much more relevant to your success than improving your one-rep max on some weightlifting exercise. MTV's old show Jersey Shore featured muscle…
/r/seduction24/11/21 04:32 PM
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People mostly remember how you made them feel during your interactions and conversations. My goal is to have enough situational awareness to know what is needed to let people have a good time. Sometimes you need to take the lead, but sometimes the best thing is to let someone else have the spotlight. The emotional intelligence to stay balanced and in control during social interactions is sometimes called social poise, and it's the key to social power. Social anxiety disrupts social poise. Anxiet…
/r/seduction23/11/21 08:52 AM
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TL/dr: Not getting enough action on Tinder? Try (1) practicing small talk with random people anywhere, even "grandma or a dude," in order to (2) become more talkative with strangers in public, so that (3) "opportunities will come definitely."
/r/seduction20/11/21 04:28 PM
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Wow, already another 170 upvotes for your post since my reply. Fancy that. I’d love to have the IP addresses of those upvotes. Yeah, I’ve read Models, and I’m still trying to figure out this conservative South Asian country you write about being from where the girls go from virginal for decades to you banging two chicks in one day type slutty because of Manson's book. Yeah right. Your story sounds bogus to me and the votes seem like bullshit, too. I’ve seen the pattern before, and I’m wondering …
/r/seduction19/11/21 12:12 AM
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Help me make sense of this situation. This post has 191 upvotes in two hours' time. The OP has posted the same basic story of losing his virginity, multiple women suddenly wanting to sleep with him, etc. non-stop over the past 15 days or so on this forum and in multiple other subreddits. Check his post history, it’s a click away for all to see. Today he credits his "inner game" for the rapid success, but in earlier posts a few days ago, he credited better profile pictures on dating sites. Severa…
/r/seduction18/11/21 11:25 PM
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So half of the comments are calling out the obvious BS of OP's post, so who are the hundreds of people who upvote it in record time (18 hours)? Is this some kind of scam? Are the upvotes from fake accounts?
/r/seduction18/11/21 02:49 PM
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Men who have sex have higher self esteem, not lower! And since men are paying for sex all around the world, it’s clearly valuable. Why do you see a vibrant sex life as a bad thing?
/r/seduction18/11/21 01:27 PM
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What's next? More sex!!
/r/seduction18/11/21 01:11 PM
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1.Start with known social media hook up websites, like Tender. Go from there. Or Adult Friend Finder or Seeking Arrangements. 2.Use your social circle and just let people know that you are focusing on work, so nothing serious, but that you are looking to date casually. 3.The bar scene is famous for casual hook-ups, plus there are drinks.
/r/seduction13/11/21 12:55 AM
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So your therapist just failed? You need to find a new one because you’re not ready for a relationship right now. What sorts of therapy have you tried? Even if you can never find confidence, it’s not the end of the world. I went to a military academy and we have to learn that courage and having balls really isn’t for every guy. Every army has some cowards, and that’s okay--you just have to make sure the cowards are ordered to do a useful job that doesn’t require courage, like being a good cook. M…
/r/seduction11/11/21 01:33 PM
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SHE MET ANOTHER GUY WHILE YOU WERE DELAYING YOUR ADVANCE. Christ almighty, this is obvious and is the reason behind her change in behavior. Now, she's more stressed out when you contact her because she likes both you and the other guy, but he's left the more recent impression.
/r/seduction11/11/21 01:04 PM
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OP admittedly went 0 for 6, with 100% rejection. This isn’t a case where “getting every girl” is even a part of the conversation.
/r/seduction11/11/21 12:03 AM
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OP admitted that he went 0 for 6, making for a 100% rejection rate. And, yes, I advise waiting for IOI’s, which you know about and know that he should be doing. Why isn’t anyone else telling OP the truth?! Getting shot down is not helping his game or building the skills he needs.
/r/seduction10/11/21 11:54 PM
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This is yet another perfect example of why I say that cold approach pickup is an advanced technique. How many novices getting insta-rejected will it take before people on this subreddit get the message that cold approach is too advanced for novices to do effectively? Listen, cold approaches of girls in public by uncool novices has given cold approach pickup a bad name and makes women uncomfortable. It is also not a good way to improve your game as a seducer. There's a lot you can do to improve y…
/r/seduction10/11/21 04:09 PM
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Sexy conversations could be flirting, but if I were you, I would confirm his attraction by (1) seeing how he responded to my approach and proximity (Smiles? Concern?), (2) seeing how he responds to my friendly touch (hand on shoulder after a shared laugh) and (3) seeing if he will comply with going on a walk or errand with you alone (let’s run to the store for supplies?) If all of these tests indicated attraction, I’d be much more confident that he was into me than I would be based on his sexy c…
/r/seduction10/11/21 03:49 PM
2

She's an FWB, not a girlfriend. That means that you should be fucking, not talking. Talking is not the "benefit," sex is. Call your boys if you need to talk.
/r/seduction09/11/21 10:57 PM
1

Direct openers clearly state that you are romantically attracted to the girl (example: "you’re cute, what's your name"). OTOH, both indirect openers and friendly openers are not explicitly romantic, (example: "can you spot me on my next lift?") and are more neutral. This way, you have an opportunity to let the girl talk with you like a normal person with no romantic tension at the beginning. You are showing her that you are a normal, cool guy--not some creepy voyeur who's been lusting after her …
/r/seduction09/11/21 10:44 PM
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This is a perfect example of why I say that cold approach pickup is an advanced technique. Unless you are getting strong approach invitations from the girl, opening with a very standard direct opener maximizes your chance of immediate rejection. Try indirect openers and friendly openers instead. There's a lot you can do to improve your chances, so read, study and practice more game.
/r/seduction09/11/21 07:03 PM
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The point of texting, dating, and all of Game is to fuck the girl, not to go out on yet another date or send more texts. So of course you can text in any way that promotes the seduction goal. Sexting is one obvious example of non-logistical texting that is clearly seductive, but there are other examples, too. Use your best judgement and don’t take dating "rules" so literally.
/r/seduction09/11/21 02:09 PM
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Private parties with lots of horny, DTF chicks and cool party drugs are a start. It’s social circle game on steroids as hot girls try to bag high-value guys for marriage, fun, or profit.
/r/seduction09/11/21 12:14 AM
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Different people will respond to your improvement in Game in all sorts of ways, but negative responses from others are at the heart of the classic advice not to discuss Game with female targets or those who are against Game, generally. Regarding your friends, use your improvement in Game to get them laid. Both guys and girls love guys who get them laid. I’ve gotten a fuck ton of people laid and it always opens doors socially. Stop telling friends about your results and start asking them what the…
/r/seduction09/11/21 12:08 AM
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I like your post, but good strategy can also get women into your life. Just (1) keep track of all of your sources of girls (day-game, night game, on line, and social circle) and then just decide where you want to put more efforts based on the type of girl sought, what's worked for you in the past, and what you like.
/r/seduction10/10/21 03:21 AM
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If she's too ugly for relationship, then she's (1) a friend/pivot or (2)a pump-and-dump/FWB. This is why the date sequence doesn’t make sense. Why arrange multiple dates for a pump-and-dump? Those are the girls you invite over to "Netflix and chill", not the ones for some multi date series.
/r/seduction09/10/21 05:08 PM
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Was the girl unknown to your social circle or totally random? Usually you know the deal with a girl.
/r/seduction06/10/21 08:58 PM
1

Christ Almighty, can’t anyone on this subreddit just have a successful sexual encounter and come back with useful advice? This really is the anti-seduction forum. If I think a girl has or may have an STI, I’m not going to fuck her just because I have a condom on. That’s nonsense. So I do my STI GO/NO-GO check before the sex happens, and I suggest you do, too. These last minute situations like OP describes are still signs of poor planning to me. No unvetted pussy should be that close. If you don’…
/r/seduction06/10/21 06:28 PM
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We study mate selection in western science. From most-preferred female body shape (36-24-36), to bilateral symmetry of the face, to average age of peak female attractiveness (23 years old), there is broad agreement as to female physical attractiveness. But yeah, everyone has their own personal opinion.
/r/seduction03/10/21 05:04 AM
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Tl/dr: "Just be your best self and 'the girls will come to you.'" This advice is 99.9% bullshit because it only works for people who are naturally seductive anyways, ie "Naturals." The entire problem is that most sexless guys are terrible with women when they are just being themselves--that's why they are sexless in the first place! Give me a break. There are no 20+ year old male virgins who are naturally seductive--the naturally seductive guys lost their virginity in high school. The 99% of oth…
/r/seduction02/10/21 07:54 PM
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Agreed. But OP was talking about 9's and 10's, literally the highest calibers of hotness. People who are that physically attractive are treated differently than just merely "attractive" or better than average people.
/r/seduction02/10/21 04:30 PM
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Absolutely it makes you more comfortable! Psychological studies show that, for straight guys, the number of sexual partners is positively correlated with self esteem, so you will like yourself more and that will make you more comfortable, too. The power balance in your romantic relationship favors the guy after sex occurs, so that also makes you more comfortable with both your woman and other women. Everyone can tell you are getting laid because the awkwardness and desperation of unwanted virgin…
/r/seduction24/09/21 12:23 PM
2

There's no offense. By walking away, OP created space by removing his attention from her. It was that space that allowed her to prove to herself that she recognized his value by making a decision to pursue him. This is one way that high value guys can get a woman to chase. Women only chase guys who are attractive enough to be worth the effort, so we already know it’s working. In that way, it’s sort of like a shit test (or litmus test), only guys are testing to see if you are attracted enough to …
/r/seduction23/09/21 10:29 PM
-8

We all got laid in high school, so none of us can relate to you.
/r/seduction23/09/21 08:19 AM
3

She will know that you are interested, so don’t sweat that part. She will decide whether she’ll sleep with you based on your looks, vibe, and masculinity.
/r/seduction23/09/21 08:09 AM
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This was a very solid observational/situational opener by OP, and I really liked the subtle tease about her having trouble with her lift, but notice how he kept a playful vibe going. Perfect. I also liked the attention removal afterwards. Well done.
/r/seduction23/09/21 07:52 AM
1

Stop with the self pity, it won’t solve your problem. If you are black pill and think that a person's looks is the only thing that matters in dating, then start to looks-max and improve your gait and slim down. Once you get over yourself enough to consider a woman's experience of the world, you’ll naturally see that relationships with women are available to anyone who understands them well enough. Game will be directly relevant at that point.
/r/seduction23/09/21 02:36 AM
1

First of all, inexperience is a huge turn-off to women. Second, high confidence with no experience to support it is either false confidence or foolish optimism. Navy SEALs train. You have to put in the work and get experience to get good. You know how frustrating it is when a driver is driving super slowly in the passing lane, slowing your ass down? Well, being a guy who doesn’t (1) know when to physically escalate and then (2) knows when to logistically escalate by (3) taking her home will like…
/r/seduction19/09/21 05:29 PM
2

Where are you meeting these models that you’re cold approaching?
/r/seduction18/09/21 10:32 PM
7

He likes to fuck bitches and hits it from behind?
/r/seduction18/09/21 05:36 PM
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Sadly, many readers are virgins from repressive societies and have literally never had a girl smell their cock. But they hit the gym though... And they pursue hobbies... But no girls sniffing their cocks.
/r/seduction18/09/21 05:34 PM
1

OP, the way to prove up the efficacy of an opener is with in-field footage of it working. Try your opener on 10 chicks and let us know if anything good happens.
/r/seduction18/09/21 05:28 PM
4

Stop the cap!! This entire post is 100% bullshit. I worked as a model for years and the female models are hit on ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I saw countless pick-up attempts at various events when working with the girls. Despite all of those cold approach attempts, I literally NEVER saw even a single successful daygamer pickup one of the girls. I never even saw a guy get as far as hanging out with our group to tag along for drinks. So who are these 9-10 girls actually fucking? Typically venue owners w…
/r/seduction18/09/21 02:55 PM
1

How much more female attention have you gained? Losing 50lbs and dressing better sounds like, at best, you’ve moved up maybe +2 points on the 10-point looks scale. If girls are more responsive to you, you probably moved from less-than-average to average, or from average to above-average. If you’re now being offered modelling contracts as you’re walking down the street, you’re officially a 8-10 Chad. Have there been more girls or hotter girls or more sex since the change?
/r/seduction17/09/21 07:47 PM
2

You’re not sure you even want to kiss this girl, but you already want to have a relationship conversation with her about becoming a serious couple? That sends up a lot of red flags for me about whether you are truly ready for a relationship or if you have oneitis for an attractive girl. Either way, you always let the girl ask for commitment first, and never before the two of you have sex. The person who asks for commitment has less power in the relationship.
/r/seduction15/09/21 07:35 PM
1

At the beginning of first meeting a girl, I treat hook ups and serious relationship girls the same--hell, it’s so early in the relationship, I cannot know which type of relationship, if any, she may be suitable for. I try to have sex with girls as soon as practicable, without rushing.
/r/seduction12/09/21 02:07 AM
1

She's the one who you want under tension, with her thinking of you, "I can’t wait to be around this guy again." And I will invest time after meeting a target to meet up again shortly thereafter, so she shouldn’t cool down too much!
/r/seduction10/09/21 06:36 PM
2

"Cold approach" in this context does not mean emotionally frosty or distant. Instead, "cold approach" is an old sales term that the person you are selling to has no familiarity with your product, hence you are approaching them "cold." So "cold approach pickup" just means that you and the girl were strangers before you said "hello."
/r/seduction10/09/21 06:27 PM
3

There are tactical level smoothing behaviors like, for example, using a false time constraint as a pre-opener to a set: "Hey, I only have a second, but..." There are strategic level smoothing behaviors like knowing where the girls you like are, having plans (like escalation ladders, relationship frame works, etc), and a living place with good logistics for your particular social life. It takes time. Hang out with like-minded guys and lots of girls.
/r/seduction10/09/21 06:05 PM
1

Good question! First, I love the study of people. I was a honors level psychology major in undergrad and there is a lot of great information on mating, mate selection, sexuality, etc. in western academic studies. I’ve also studied Facial Action Coding, persuasion, psychological profiling, etc. academically. Second, I love Game. Twenty-some years ago, there was only the early internet and message boards like alt.sex.fast where people were collecting information on what worked. Now there are all k…
/r/seduction10/09/21 02:25 PM
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Great comment. If you look through my post history, you’ll see that I’m against the idea that beginners should do cold approach pickup, and what you wrote about mass approaching becoming dangerous is one of the reasons why. As you get more intermediate or expert in your game level, you should be able to genuinely fly beneath her radar to where, at the beginning, she doesn’t realize your approach is a pickup at all. This requires that you have a solid neutral opener and a solid friendly opener be…
/r/seduction10/09/21 01:12 PM
2

In general, average game looks awkward and forced. Top tier game, on the other hand looks like the seduction "just happened" and is silky smooth.
/r/seduction10/09/21 01:37 AM
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You’d go with your read of the concert, but I’d consider cutting the number of sets engaged from 12 down to my 4 favorites. After a successful open, and I thought your opener was fine for what you were doing, I’d chat for several minutes, but my real goal would be to get the target to trust me enough and be comfortable enough to take a walk with me anywhere. To concessions, merchandising, bathrooms, etc. I’m thinking isolate and escalate, but physically maybe just a hand hold as I lead her aroun…
/r/seduction10/09/21 12:39 AM
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It matters a lot, especially with higher-end women. The most important thing is to know the styles the girl you are targeting is into. If you look like her Mr. Right, then she is more likely to treat you that way. You will still need verbal game, but style can open doors.
/r/seduction09/09/21 09:01 PM
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Your instincts are right, you are cold approaching incorrectly. From a Game perspective, you’re getting flakes, ghosting, and low investment responses because you’re not emotionally and psychologically compelling enough to the girls that you’re cold approaching. You need to make a stronger connection to where she has a tension around wanting to see you again. Once she feels that, it won’t matter what form of communication you use next with her because there's no way in hell she’d let you slip th…
/r/seduction09/09/21 08:53 PM
1

OP, are you here to waste our time? You’ve got at least two different throwaway accounts on this thread alone, so why not stop with the bullshit. Join a fraternity, if you really are in college. Hang out with guys who get laid a lot and have at least 20 sexual partners in their history. Stop cold approaching until you have had an experienced guy watch you, just to make sure you’re not the beginner who has read nothing and learned nothing about seduction.
/r/seduction04/09/21 01:14 PM
1

What‘s your body count? How long were you a bad boy? How many girls did you sleep with during that time? How many girls have you slept with as a nice guy?
/r/seduction04/09/21 12:47 AM
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I’m fascinated with the sex situation in India. Is virginity really popular for 25 - 30 year old men? As an American, that's hard for me to believe. We lose our virginity as teenagers mostly (average for both genders is to lose virginity at age 17). We’re horny as hell after going through puberty and abstinence movements failed with Nancy Reagan in the 1980's. What’s the deal in India? Do the girls not want to have sex? Do guys try to seduce or not? Obviously there are a lot of Indian babies, so…
/r/seduction31/08/21 03:45 AM
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So I’m noticing that the anti-sex comments like "just study" "don’t try to kiss" all get several hundred upvotes, while the comments giving actual advice on seduction get a fraction of that support. Why would this be happening on a supposedly "seduction" forum?
/r/seduction29/08/21 01:45 AM
1

Last Minute Resistance
/r/seduction29/08/21 12:45 AM
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Have you kissed her yet? What is the level of kino between the two of you? Is she DTF? Are you an orbiter of hers? How well do you know her? At any rate, clean your toilet and have the place looking and smelling as good as possible. Ask the girl to take her shoes off, if that’ll help her get comfortable. If she's DTF, then let her set the pace and have sex right away before studying. If she's not, then figure out what's wrong (attraction, comfort, ASD, LMR) and fix it.
/r/seduction28/08/21 02:37 PM
0

Your advice will not produce attraction in women, making it bad advice.
/r/seduction28/08/21 01:11 PM
1

What do you mean “worse results with women” when you have too much time on your hands? How often do you get laid when you are focused on your goals versus how often do you get laid otherwise? Is it really that big a difference in numbers or quality of partner? Or is it that one or more of your girlfriends stops having sex with you when you’re slacking at your goals, or what?
/r/seduction17/08/21 10:24 PM
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Congrats, but keep in mind that there are some red flags in your post (with that four year obsession) that sound like a therapist could help. Also, get a dating coach to watch you Game to make sure you get appropriate technical feedback. Many new guys are anxious and ask for dates before the girl is attracted to them, so they get rejected a lot because they are not ready for cold approach pickup. Good luck on continued success.
/r/seduction17/08/21 01:24 PM
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That’s the thing. OP didn’t say anything about practicing unsafe sex, you just spammed the thread on a non sequitur safe sex diatribe, so it felt like teenage trolling.
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:25 AM
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Why are self-described wankers like this writing into seduction forums to preach about abstinence and STDs? How old are you? What the fuck is going on with the youth of today? Why no sex?
/r/seduction27/07/21 08:20 AM
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Reframe those rejections, seducers! These examples are great to neutralize the rejections, but also remember that you can positively reframe rejections, too.
/r/seduction11/07/21 09:03 PM
1

Back row of the movie theater.
/r/seduction11/07/21 08:12 PM
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You seem sharp, which makes me think that something is not working with your Game. You should try giving your girls more of the emotions they need, the drama. Do you have any friends who are good with girls who can be your wing man and give you feedback?
/r/seduction11/07/21 05:25 PM
0

Old news
/r/seduction11/07/21 04:19 PM
1

Practice improvisation and word association.
/r/seduction11/07/21 04:14 PM
2

I think he's taking about the Pandora's Box system. You learn about and psychologically asses girls on whether they are a tester or investor type, a denier or justifier type, and a realist or idealist type. Once you have that, you know how to appeal to girls of her exact type by using the system. There are libraries of helpful Game programs, this is just one of them. They each provide different structure and tactics. No one has to reinvent the wheel.
/r/seduction11/07/21 02:22 PM
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Well played! Keep updating us, this is getting good.
/r/seduction11/07/21 01:58 PM
2

Pay better attention to what the girl is doing and why she is doing it. In this case, the girl is NOT trying to put the guy in frame or manipulate him, instead she was directly communicating to OP her positive sexual attitude towards him. Her message seems to be an obvious "it’s on" message telling OP that she's sexually interested.
/r/seduction30/06/21 01:28 PM
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Seduction is a specialized skill set much like lock-picking is specialized skill set. But there are different schools of thought and philosophies on seduction, so disagreements here are frequent and intense.
/r/seduction28/06/21 03:18 PM
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She really likes you. She was being patient with your slow physical escalation, which allowed sexual tension to build up and led to the make out session (which she also led). Be careful because there are Alpha guys who will seduce your girl if you don’t step up your sex game.
/r/seduction21/06/21 04:00 PM
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Sell yourself, not the date. If flaking is a concern, then instead of trying to force your idea of location, see if you can pick a place that's something she's passionate about and that works logistically based on ultimately ending up back at your place. But this would be a crutch, because ideally you’re going for enough attraction and rapport that she finds YOU compelling enough to invest some time with.
/r/seduction21/06/21 01:59 AM
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I’ll fuss at you later for being behind on your pickup training, but let’s start with some helpful tips for beginners: (1) You were lucky your direct approach compliment was so well received by her. After you get a positive response from a girl like her semi-enthusiastic "thank you," then you do a quick-wit reply, false time constraint, GAME, introduce yourself, and ask her name. For example: Her: Thank you! You: "Absolutely! We nice-looking people need to stick together! (hopefully she’ll smile…
/r/seduction19/06/21 06:28 PM
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Let her talk! She's likely a high-score neurotic and her speech is emotionally pressured. She’ll want/ need comfort and reassurance from a guy. Give those things to her and she can be a quick lay for a slow Tuesday.
/r/seduction18/06/21 06:35 PM
2

Deliberately losing ridiculous bets is the second oldest pickup trick in the book and works so long as you target half-wits and blondes!!
/r/seduction18/06/21 06:22 PM
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OP, with respect, are you any good at getting pussy/seducing women? How many women have you had sex with using this advice? Since you state that “short term relationships are not fulfilling” what’s your longest relationship? This sounds like more lame advice from some young guy who doesn’t know anything. Just go get laid and come back and tell us how you did it. Talk on your knowingness.
/r/seduction14/06/21 07:15 PM
8

Thank you! Sadly, testosterone is under attack on this subreddit as well.
/r/seduction14/06/21 02:18 AM
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The idea that having a lot of muscles does not help very much with getting girls and can even be counterproductive should be a pinned post in this subreddit. Think how many past and future "hit the gym" posters can now just remain quiet--let's thank them for their service as they return to the fitness subs where they can be useful. Now we just have to get rid of the "I cold-approached and got rejected--but at least I approached" posts. Once these distractions are gone, this subreddit can focus o…
/r/seduction12/06/21 01:59 PM
1

There does not need to be so much rejection and failure associated with cold approach. The massive failure rate on this subreddit is nature's way of delivering the simple message that no one on this subreddit seems to understand: "YOU ARE DOING THIS WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT GAME OR WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE DOING WITH COLD APPROACH." Widespread ignorance is the only way how this thread gets an endless string of losers posting daily failure reports about cold-approach mishaps. Cold app…
/r/seduction11/06/21 02:21 AM
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Great question. Sort of like formal dancing, where the man leads and the woman follows his lead, you do the same thing with the social interaction. You "lead" the interaction by approaching and opening the conversation, finding out how her day is going and what she has planned, then suggesting that the two of you get coffee, then maybe stop by your place to try the red wine that you're sure she'll love. If going back to your place seems to stress her out, which it may since this is a frequent pr…
/r/seduction19/05/21 04:37 AM
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Start small and build your way to more edgy flirtations. She'll know that you like her, you are flirting because that's how romance is done. It's a dance. A social dance. No one will call the cops unless you step outside her comfort zone. You can know where the lines are by noticing her behavioral responses. You can take it one baby step at a time, making sure she's comfortable with each step. Here's an example: Start by shaking hands. Then, the next time you see her, do a friendly high five wit…
/r/seduction19/05/21 01:48 AM
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OP's post is a formula for awkward people to NEVER get laid. Game was created because doing nothing and just "being yourself" simply does not work very well. Sure, as it's true that even broken clock is right twice a day, it's also true that a no-Game loser might rarely get lucky enough to get a little action from girls, but is that good enough for you? What are your Game ambitions? Do you want the skill to cold approach a 9/10? Do you want to get a blowjob by seducing a girl and sneaking into a…
/r/seduction18/05/21 04:46 PM
0

I love it when losers self-delete their posts!!
/r/seduction18/05/21 04:09 PM
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We need a "Virgin Philosopher" tag for guys with a sub-50 lay count who post these cheesy, life-coach style posts centering around mental health and approach anxiety.
/r/seduction18/05/21 04:07 PM
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What sort of BS cry for help is this? If you honestly think that you are undateable because of your looks, which is an untrue Black Pill/Looks-maxing idea in the first place, why would you be on a seduction forum?? Girls are NOT so superficial if the rest of your game is strong. But if you haven’t read enough game to know this, then you have some reading on Game to do. Icl you legit want help, then you should let us know how old you are and where (what country) you are trying to seduce girls.
/r/seduction18/05/21 03:56 PM
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Only if the girls are the ones buying the condoms. Otherwise, it's just male hopefulness.
/r/seduction18/05/21 12:29 AM
3

They want any guy. I'm sure most will date skinny.
/r/seduction18/05/21 12:26 AM
2

You don't have to wait to flirt with a girl until after you are her friend! Who is teaching that? Look up escalation ladders to learn how to physically escalate and body language interpretation to figure out if the girl attracted to you. How old are you?
/r/seduction18/05/21 12:19 AM
0

Image consultant and YouTuber Kevin Samuels recommends that his clients engage these services in this order:(1) therapist; (2) physical trainer; (3) image consultant; (4) matchmaker. Therapy comes first.
/r/seduction07/05/21 11:42 PM
1

Post-wall chicks have low SMV and flee the scene once discovered.
/r/seduction30/04/21 12:26 PM
2

How many of the 1,100 responses to OP's ONE DAY OLD Reddit account are fake or shill accounts? It seems like this is all just marketing bullshit to support some coaching scheme that he wants readers to DM him about. Pathetic.
/r/seduction30/04/21 12:16 PM
1

Don't you find it odd that the failure rate of amateurs attempting cold approach is astronomically high? We literally see their failures on this subreddit every single day. Why should that be if cold approach is what know-nothing newbies should be doing to learn Game? Just like you don't teach math by starting with Calculus, you don't teach Game by starting with cold-approach. The practical answer is simple: if you can't close a warm lead (ie a girl already in your social circle), then you sure …
/r/seduction23/04/21 02:15 PM
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Unless you are advanced in your understanding of Game, please do NOT attempt cold-approach pickup. Cold approach is advanced Game. If you are not over approach anxiety, then you are not advanced. OP beats himself up because he didn't open. Of course he didn't. Learn Game and your performance at Game will improve. Try to get your friends laid and you'll soon see how bad most advice is on this thread.
/r/seduction23/04/21 06:04 AM
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If a guy is clueless, I would start him talking to girls in a social circle context. He needs to get better at reading and understanding women and their emotional responses, so starting with girls you already know helps because their responses are somewhat familiar. Next, I'd recommend learning from several different PUAs and related schools of Game. You should know (1) what they propose; (2) why they propose it; (3) whether you agree with them or not; and (4) what happens when you field test th…
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:54 PM
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Who is telling all of these clueless newbies to focus on cold-approach pickup? This is terrible advice because they need to learn basic skills. Cold-approach pickup is an advanced skill. That's why we hear endlessly from these novice guys who are getting rejected left and right, but they are like, "At least I approached." It's like you're a boxer who refuses to learn about boxing or train for a boxing match. Dipshits on this forum are like, "Just get in the ring and swing your fists, training an…
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:12 PM
18

I'm glad people here understand that this OP doesn't know what the hell he/she is talking about.
/r/seduction18/04/21 03:09 PM
0

One aspect of having no Game is that you sincerely do not know what is possible with seduction, so all sorts of wrong information comes out. Have you heard the story of how the first guy who broke the 4-minute mile made liars of all the "experts" who said it was impossible and the loser-runners who couldn't run fast enough? Losers generally do not want to work harder and improve performance, so they claim things are impossible because it protects their self esteem. The same is true of seduction-…
/r/seduction16/04/21 01:02 PM
2

A strong, direct opening line like #1 would only be used by an experienced seducer in rare circumstances because it hurts your chances of sleeping with the girl. That said, I agree that #1 is going to get lots of rejection and only makes practical sense if the guy sucks at Game because some girl will eventually say, "Yes." 2 is going to work better than people here realize. It's most important that the guy and girl share space and that he neither shows interest nor presents any sort of threat to…
/r/seduction13/04/21 03:45 AM
1

Yeah, I agree that she's into you, but it's weird that you don't recognize what's happening with her. The signs would be all over her face and behavior. Is she not attractive to you? I'm thinking that if she were a 10, you would have noticed that she's into you. As far as Game, she is chasing you, so you have enough value. It's time to pretty much stop the game-playing/teasing/value displays and time to start qualifying her good points so that she feels comfortable enough with you to escalate to…
/r/seduction10/04/21 11:21 PM
0

First of all, I apologize for assuming anything because you are actually coming across as very cool. Your being married caught me by surprise, but we are rolling in the same types of businesses and professional circles. I have friends in all types of marriages, from male-dom to 50/50 to female led. I'm 40's never married, no kids and am looking to marry, but am willing wait for the right woman and father late if need be. The career is going well and I'm considered highly eligible and have a bunc…
/r/seduction10/04/21 05:49 PM
2

There are literally libraries full of information on Game, not to mention courses, etc. What's the problem?
/r/seduction10/04/21 04:32 PM
6

If you are over 30 and unmarried, then it's already probably too late to get a high quality guy to marry you and a bad attitude won't help matters. If you actually do look good, then you can be chick on the side for high value guys like that. This is even more the case if you have downsides and baggage like kids or pets.
/r/seduction10/04/21 04:23 PM
9

Tell me more about this "quality lifestyle" that's unrelated to money, because volunteering and shit like that does not get a guy laid. What exactly did you have in mind?
/r/seduction10/04/21 04:15 PM
3

Along with too much focus on "inner game," the notion that lifestyle gets you laid is another popular but incorrect idea in this subreddit. Women are the locks. Seduction training is just lock-picking school. Your inner game doesn't really matter unless you are mentally inadequate or insecure-- just learn how to pick the lock. Your deeper philosophical navel gazing about what it means to be a man doesn't matter-- just learn how to pick the lock. Do you need big muscles to pick the lock? Of cours…
/r/seduction10/04/21 04:06 PM
8

Yes.
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:41 PM
0

Are you a pet owner? How many?
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:35 PM
2

I love that understanding white knights like you are available to marry 35 year old former prostitutes with 4 kids by 4 different men. Be sure to think on this as go down on her on your wedding night. Hell, better you than me.
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:25 PM
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This is a absolutely true and is the real reason that order women are so insecure when it comes to younger women being around their men. The post 25 year old women know full well that their attractiveness is waning and that younger women are more attractive, all else being equal.
/r/seduction10/04/21 02:28 PM
1

Be as honest as you can be consistent with getting laid. Just use your judgement.
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:59 AM
1

You put a little more edge in your game. You don't have to be physically dangerous, just be assertive and dominant enough to get her juices flowing and give her an emotional spike. I will tell a story that allows me to show emotions (including some intense ones) and then I use to use humor or whatever to relieve the tension.
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:55 AM
2

Yeah, I’m down for adventurous bad girls only.
/r/seduction10/04/21 03:38 AM
1

/r/pantydropperpad
/r/seduction28/03/21 03:12 AM
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YES! That's right! It’s been a while since I was in college, but I’m worried that you guys aren’t getting laid enough. It’s like the hormonal sex drive has been replaced by over-socialized nonsense.
/r/seduction25/03/21 07:37 AM
1

I would recommend college dancing class. They almost always have more women than men, it’s a very structured interaction, you will learn to lead the dance, it’s a great social skill, you break the touch barrier, etc. You’ll meet tons of women and can start your social circle game, which is WAY more important for beginners than cold approach pickup. Once you have females in your life, they’ll help you get better with meeting other women and attraction-helpers like introductions to her hot friends…
/r/seduction28/02/21 03:44 PM
1

Either way can work well. If you know your girl and you calibrate your behaviour, then you know what the seduction needs to move forward and you can sit appropriately.
/r/seduction18/02/21 04:32 PM
1

Let her ride you out (her on top) if she's got the skills for that. It’s sexy as hell for both of you and the angle on her clit makes it easier for her to control her experience and get off. I would whack off earlier that day if I felt like I would last longer, but you’ll be fine either way because you can always go for rounds two and three! Just start kissing and then slowly and playfully pull her on top of you as you lie down on your back on the bed or couch or field or whatever. Take off her …
/r/seduction17/02/21 07:33 PM
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Username does not check out.
/r/seduction17/02/21 06:39 PM
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We seem to be getting a daily dose of inner game content from posters based in India. The OP will post hundreds of words of amateurish life coaching and, within hours, we are asked to believe that several hundred people reflexively upvote this content on a daily basis. Every. Single. Day. The audience here can’t get enough of this low level life coaching?? I call bullshit. You should be young guys eagerly looking to get laid, not introspective losers who are so LSE that they are obsessed with no…
/r/seduction07/02/21 12:40 PM
1

The whole interaction is about managing sexual tension. Good looks are an asset, but not nearly the most important one--it helps mostly at the beginning. It helps to guarantee you a warm reception, but if you can’t manage sexual tension, things will fizzle or otherwise fuck up. Learn more about women. They consume romance novels (words, slow building tension, and sexual mental images) while guys consume hardcore porno shot in 4K with fast seductions. I can literally get girls wet with a story ju…
/r/seduction07/01/21 05:05 AM
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If you can't tell the difference between a girl who likes having you around versus a girl who wants your cock (or at least some cock), then how old are you and what has your dating life been like so far?
/r/seduction05/01/21 07:32 AM
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You need a dating coach or a friend who is good with girls to observe you until you develop your own erotic vigilance. First, you should know how to calibrate your escalations based on what response you are getting from the girl. Timing, style, and manner of seduction depend on your ability to read the girl. This is the PUA's way of avoiding the mistake of asking an unattracted girl on a date in the first place. If you do fuck up and over-escalate in this way, consequently triggering a rejection…
/r/seduction05/01/21 07:23 AM
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Basic logic tells me that you are naive and suck at math or you are completely full of crap. Are you claiming to have seen this book??? Publish a photo of a few pages.
/r/seduction03/01/21 09:01 PM
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There is a lot of study material available: tons of books on pickup, Youtube videos that PUAs put out, at-home programs, seminars, etc. There are dating coaches, wingmen, girls who will help you. I love Game, so I basically read and practiced everything from about every PUA until it all made sense. I listen to everybody--it’s the best way. You will soon know what's effective, so just be comprehensive and practice what you learn to see what's what.
/r/seduction01/01/21 03:47 AM
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Yep. And when you respond to her shit test perfectly, her bitch shield will break and she’ll smile/laugh at herself, treating you with respect and sexual interest. It’s pretty awesome.
/r/seduction01/01/21 03:24 AM
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Everything she says IS a test (or should be treated as one), and you fail by getting offended by whatever the girl says. If you pass her test--and basic Game knowledge will teach you how--you will actually make the girl highly attracted to you. (basic Game) Next thing you know, you’ll intentionally force girls to test you by playing extra cocky so she tries to cut you down, and then you’ll turn her on by passing her tests (intermediate Game). It’s like outwitting a girl at this core level. It is…
/r/seduction31/12/20 07:42 PM
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Upvote for having actually READ and UNDERSTOOD some Game theory. Most people here probably have not heard of or read about fractionation in a game context.
/r/seduction31/12/20 06:43 PM
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Just invite him on a walk or on a fool's errand with you to get supplies somewhere. It's called "isolating and escalating." If you are alone with him, putting on a porn will do the trick, just say, "All I have is this crazy porn my nympho roommate left, it's hilarious!" It'll get him hard in minutes and seduction is highly probable, just make it obvious that you want sex to happen.
/r/seduction30/11/20 09:14 AM
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You guys are so sensitive and insecure. Hot guys and girls have many romantic prospects, so expect competition and distractions if you want the best. Have several girls that you’re romancing at any one time, so a few flakes hardly matter and sex with one of them is a certainty, making you less desperate and horny. Bonus: fewer of these "I never get laid" stories.
/r/seduction30/11/20 09:00 AM
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I’m all for it if they’re hot!
/r/seduction22/11/20 06:17 AM
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If you have serious mental issues, then a seduction forum is not the answer and you should seek professional help.
/r/seduction22/11/20 06:14 AM
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This is true, but how does it help with seduction?
/r/seduction13/11/20 07:32 AM
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"So, the post that accompanied my link was not deemed "helpful" enough by some decisionmaker at the subreddit? Why couldn’t it "stand on its own"?
/r/seduction12/11/20 01:54 AM
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I feel like there's an agenda. What's the problem with linking to a Psychology Today article?
/r/seduction12/11/20 01:48 AM
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Validation doesn’t equal sex, so these girls still have to get themselves laid. Luckily, rich and hot internet guys are rarely there to cock block you in real life. Don’t worry about digital competition.
/r/seduction11/11/20 06:31 PM
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TINDER LAUNCHED IN 2012, NOT 2000. Stop with the bullshit excuses. You are performing like shit at seduction and it’s not the fault of dating apps. What the fuck is so wrong with facing reality? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinder_(app)?wprov=sfti1
/r/seduction11/11/20 06:07 PM
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In all honesty, I only hear AFC's complain about the dating app influence supposedly keeping them down. All of the successful guys are getting what they want from women. Some use the dating apps to prospect women, some do not, but there are so many ways to get girls, I think most guys should just ignore the apps and stick to basics.
/r/seduction11/11/20 06:00 PM
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It’s in my personal best interest for young guys (20's and 30's) to suck with girls so that it’s easier for older guys like me to date younger women in their age group. I feel bad for you guys because I hear guys giving up to celibacy or blaming everything on looks, money, etc.
/r/seduction11/11/20 05:48 PM
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More like a Zoom party. Sex has meant risk since the first fatal venereal disease and onward all the way to AIDS/HIV. None of that stopped sex and COVID won’t either.
/r/seduction11/11/20 05:38 PM
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Don’t get demoralized or discouraged. What we now call "incels" used to be called AFC's, which stood for "average frustrated chumps," so it’s not really a new thing that many, even most guys don’t get much sex. We teased was each other with the AFC title to motivate improvement, not to beat each other down. Healthy young guys tend to want sex and lots of it. I bet the no-sex group are still whacking to porn and fantasizing about girls they see. Don’t give up, guys. The fact that you’re on a sedu…
/r/seduction11/11/20 05:26 PM
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I read this a lot. So, if dating apps aren’t helping a person get laid, then that person should just start using alternate methods to meet women! No one needs dating apps to get laid, so it really shouldn’t be an excuse. Just determine if those apps are a waste of time in your particular case and go from there. I’d prefer going to a party rather than Gaming on a dating app, but I’d use any method that was producing results for me.
/r/seduction11/11/20 04:51 PM
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The typical lame-ass advice in this subreddit is to either (1) engage in inner self-development or (2) "hit the gym" in order to get good at seduction. This advice is now demonstrably shitty and has motivated me to write this post. Since Morons doubt that the answer lies elsewhere, I’ve included some science that points out just how epicly bad and clueless today's young men are as proven by their horrific outcomes regarding seduction performance. This all makes me want to explain in plain Englis…
/r/seduction11/11/20 04:32 PM
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Well it’s loser-hour again on this subreddit with a guy who’s so shit with girls that he probably should consider suicide and the typical lame-ass advice to either (1) engage in inner self-development or (2) "hit the gym." This, of course, is lame ass advice that makes me want to explain in plain English a much more direct, simple, and effective way to think about seduction. A good seducer is to sex like a good comedian is to laughter. Once you’re funny enough, you can make people laugh. They do…
/r/seduction06/11/20 07:58 AM
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I'm just saying that girls slut out all the time, so emotional connection is not always needed or wanted by the girl you're seducing.
/r/seduction31/10/20 11:22 AM
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No, there are chase triggers that you can use to get a girl to pursue you. For instance, say she laughs at something really perfect that you say. Just give her a playful back-turn and say, "I'm still not sure about you, what are your two most attractive qualities?" Boom, you've got her chasing you with qualifiers.
/r/seduction31/10/20 11:15 AM
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There is the type of seduction that's when you fuck a girl in the bathroom of a club or party 15 minutes after meeting her and the type of emotionally connected seduction that takes longer but is more common. Sometimes seduction is treating a woman like an object. Sometimes she needs or wants that for release. This is a seduction forum, not a woman's study course.
/r/seduction31/10/20 10:56 AM
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If your current approach is working for you, then keep doing it. Bruce Lee made up his own martial art that focused on maximizing advantage by using your natural gifts. I'm just a huge fan of Game. I have been for years. I do think that learning, integrating, and mastering different types of game will give you options and insights that are worth having.
/r/seduction31/10/20 10:37 AM
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Conversation is the tool that allows you to open the girl like a lock pick allows you to open a lock.
/r/seduction28/10/20 09:04 PM
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This is good advice. This makes you a little better at conversation than the average guy and that will be good enough to leave her with a positive impression most of the time. But soon you’ll be using conversation like a lockpick.
/r/seduction28/10/20 08:40 AM
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This is so true. There are a LOT of "hit the gym" posts in this subreddit nowadays, so it’s good testimony to hear the limitations of this approach. Sometimes it works. I saw it work in New Jersey, where Italian guys would take steroids to bulk up and become "gorillas." Big hair, big tit Italian girls would fuck these guys left and right on spring break. One night stands were the norm. Look up Youtube videos of old Jersey Shore episodes on MTV. Game still separated the guys who got laid a lot an…
/r/seduction26/10/20 05:17 AM
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I’ve had openers that have gotten me laughed at by girls (and not in a good way). It was one of my first openers ever and I had way more anxious energy than I needed. But I gutted up and walked over to the two girls. "Nice shirt," I nervously complimented. They looked at each other, then pointed at me and laughed their ass off. I walked away faster than I had approached!
/r/seduction25/10/20 03:22 PM
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Does username check out??
/r/seduction25/10/20 07:09 AM
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The date should be based on her interests and your idea of what will be seductive to her. But if you wanted to take her to a nice romantic spot, I would talk up the place or their best dish until she's begging to join you there.
/r/seduction24/10/20 09:43 AM
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An lnstadate, short for "instant date," is when you talking to a girl and go directly from where you are to the location of an unscheduled date (like a nearby coffee shop). This is considered good game because it extends the interaction, allows you to progress the interaction/seduction, and makes second dates and same day lays more likely.
/r/seduction24/10/20 09:11 AM
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Just say something like, "Tell me about [her name] and the subject of love." She’ll have to produce a narrative to tell you something about her love life and you’re also escalating emotionally/romantically in a pretty vanilla/acceptable way. Just be careful that your conversation skills are good, because it sounds like you still find holding up the conversation to be a burden. Be strategic. Do whatever gets you to your goal fastest. Conversation is an opportunity to influence and learn about the…
/r/seduction20/10/20 05:04 AM
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Yes. Mirror neurons make smiles contagious. Women work the same way emotionally. People on this subreddit think far too much of looks and "working out." But women are emotional.
/r/seduction18/10/20 05:24 AM
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There are actually a bunch of things you can do to influence women to hit on you. Seeing a woman from across the room, holding eye contact, and then subtly raising a toast to her could get her smiling and walking your way. Pretending/starting to walk away right after you make her laugh will also get her chasing.
/r/seduction17/10/20 11:28 PM
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I feel like most guys should just learn more game so that they’re better with women overall. Then they won’t have to fixate on their social status and status anxiety issues when trying to get romantic.
/r/seduction05/10/20 08:40 AM
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I would recommend less focus on inner game and trying to resolve insecurity and more focus on just knowing how to solve game problems and nurture sexual tension.
/r/seduction02/10/20 07:08 AM
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What the fuck? If you go try to be a wingman and get a buddy laid, his idealism and daydreaming is NOT THE FUCKING PROBLEM. Where do these wannabe authors get this shit? Now admittedly I’m an American in Gen X and we mostly focused on getting laid by chicks. That's what seduction used to mean: the process of getting laid by chicks. In this subreddit, it means some half-baked quasi-intellectual philosophical bullshit, or getting over your past emotional injuries, or "hitting the gym." No wonder y…
/r/seduction01/10/20 05:40 AM
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This is an obvious friendzone/"nice-guy" blow off line. Since this happened after the third date, you should field report on each of the three dates. Was there any physical escalation at all?
/r/seduction20/09/20 08:28 PM
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Have you guys actually tried to wingman in the field and help get someone laid? Extreme thirst or neediness on your buddy's part is simply not going to be the number one problem. I’d say approach anxiety is the biggest problem, then lack of effective conversation skills, third is not having a seduction plan or process. All three of these conditions are facets of or lead to a lack of social poise and social intelligence, and it’s this lack that turns women off the most. Go try and seduce people a…
/r/seduction18/09/20 03:04 PM
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First, remember to have some fun out there!! Seduction is an awesome experience that's got the best of endings. Guys are too much in their head sometimes when just having a little fun would make the experience less like a damn dental exam. Having fun also has the effect of making you be yourself. Voila!
/r/seduction12/09/20 03:55 AM
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Self preservation and reproduction are the two primary drives animating life. Game and seduction are reproduction related. As for me, I’ve read and practiced a bunch of different types of game, got a degree in psychology from university, and thoroughly love this stuff.
/r/seduction09/09/20 12:38 AM
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Have several opening strategies ready to go at all times and be ready to use more than one of them because a girl (or a set of people) may not respond strongly to the first thing you try. With respect to topic, I might talk about her "artistic vibe" or about a unique item of clothing ( that's such a cool _________, where did you get it?") or maybe an opinion opener. This is a small sample. I have a ton of openings from reading a lot on opening girls and groups. I disarm their initial impatience …
/r/seduction09/09/20 12:23 AM
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They used to call this sort of underhanded behaviour AMOGing. To that, we say: "If you ain’t cheating; you ain’t trying."
/r/seduction07/09/20 02:18 AM
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Play her reaction. We agree 100%. Intuition works and I recommend it highly. I also use a lot of science. Take a look at the Facial Acton Coding System for some state of the art ideas!
/r/seduction06/09/20 06:24 PM
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Deliberate rapport breaks can and should be a part of good game, but this isn’t that. You should keep your game as smooth as possible for best results (dates, same-day lays, bathroom pulls, etc.) to where her experience is that "things just happened." I agree that the girl should NEVER be placed on a pedestal. We are the prize and our frames as men should be rock solid. I also agree that many game situations can be saved, but that's not the goal! Lol, you have the right spirit, just don’t make t…
/r/seduction06/09/20 06:16 PM
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No it doesn’t! Any PUA will tell you that uncalibrated escalation during cold-approach pick-up is going to get you a fuck-ton of rejections and a horrible social reputation. Do NOT try this at home or at social venues!!!
/r/seduction06/09/20 05:49 PM
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I think that's right. It’s like she's the safe and I’m the safe-cracker. The only time "just go for it" actually works is if the safe is already unlocked. Some girls are this way--it’s called an unrestricted sociosexual orientation (Google/Wiki/study)--but spotting sluts is a game skill too.
/r/seduction06/09/20 05:45 PM
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Do you have a wing man or someone else who can watch your approaches to see if there's a problem? Remember that the real goal is to improve the interactions that you are having with women, or else getting numbers won’t be much help because the girls will just flake.
/r/seduction06/09/20 12:45 PM
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A lot of non-weed smokers get stuck in their heads talking to women, so just acknowledge that you need to improve your verbal game skills and solve the real issue.
/r/seduction06/09/20 12:33 PM
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Escalating with a girl without properly calibrating your escalation based on her responses will likely break rapport with the girl and trigger rejection or worse (cops). THIS IS WHY YOU CALIBRATE IN THE FIRST PLACE. We’re not just wasting time when we calibrate, we are recognizing that moving too fast with a girl is counter-productive to seduction. Girls do not like guys who over-escalate because it shows a lack of social intelligence and a potential rape threat. Game is learning how to read her…
/r/seduction06/09/20 12:12 PM
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If a woman sees you in the car, then it will impact how attractively she perceives you as being. There are actually psychological experiments where they use the exact same picture of a guy but change the type of car he’s driving. Women literally see the guy in the nicer car as being more physically attractive. This effect is NOT found in men, who score the females consistently regardless of the type of car she's shown in. But this interesting reality is not what you should be thinking about as a…
/r/seduction28/08/20 07:23 PM
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And that’s how you make WAP!!
/r/seduction28/08/20 06:45 PM
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This sort of situation is exactly why reading and studying the topic of Game is so important. As a guy, you have to be able to tell the difference between (1) ASD (Anti-Slut Defense) where she likes you but doesn’t want to get too physical too fast because you might think less of her and (2) a situation where she's just not into you yet, a skill related to your erotic vigilance and judgment. There are many tactics and strategies to handle ASD, but here, on a seduction forum, people have learned …
/r/seduction25/08/20 01:26 PM
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Guys who are getting laid don’t talk like this at all. We don’t give a fuck, and we sure as hell don’t devalue ourselves or overvalue women. Chumpy Guys stuck in scarcity, who rarely get action, are the ones who always idolize women and struggle with low self esteem, frequent trips to the friendzone, and stalled or sluggish escalation. Do you really think the problem is your bench press? GTFO. I’d say go ahead and be sex focused. That's what seduction is all about. You’re learning the ropes. The…
/r/seduction27/07/20 01:03 AM
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Everyone accepts that it’s natural for some girls to need more emotional context before getting physical. Some guys are the same way. You have every right to decide who and when to seduce!
/r/seduction28/06/20 01:49 PM
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Great job! Doing cold approach pickup and getting a number close from a cute stranger is an awesome accomplishment. This post should be dedicated to all of the dumb fucks who say "pickup doesn’t work--just hit the gym." The better news is that this makes the next steps in pickup, like getting insta-dates, pulling her back to your place, and finally getting same-day-lays, etc. all the more possible.
/r/seduction28/06/20 01:26 PM
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I read and game the woman you want. Unless there is an immediate challenger, the other guys around don’t really matter, except that you should probably be hanging out with friends and wingmen who are supporting you. If there is a challenger at a bar, party, or wherever, I wonder who is she most interested in? If the other guy isn’t already talking to her, then go and open right away. If things somehow end up in a mixed group conversation with both you, the girl and the challenger present, then s…
/r/seduction26/05/20 02:09 AM
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Yeah, I’d say about two hours is fastest for a girl I’d literally never met before. But I’ve had faster closes with girls who knew me platonicly first.
/r/seduction25/05/20 03:53 PM
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Yeah, I saw! Is there another seduction subreddit that's more for guys like us?
/r/seduction25/05/20 03:44 PM
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Begging is just that: "please take me back, baby" Fighting for a girl back means doing whatever is necessary to get her back--ie re-attracting her. Now to most chumps, fighting to get a girl back usually means doing some sort of grand romantic gesture that you see in romantic movies, like buying her flowers. In reality, you might well do more to re-attract her by making her jealous by taking her rival on a date. You have to understand the psychology of the girl you want.
/r/seduction25/05/20 03:33 PM
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Wtf!? Did anyone out there really think that begging was the RIGHT way to go about re-attracting an ex-lover who you want back?? Ofc not. A more relevant question is: what are effective methods of re-attraction? Now at least the right keyword is on the thread. Luckily, this issue has come up before in Game. Has anyone done the research/reading on Re-attraction, or are we still guessing, or watching cartoons for love advice, or following some other LSE-recovery bullshit advice I see on this subre…
/r/seduction25/05/20 03:16 PM
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I couldn’t agree more. What the fuck happened to this subreddit?? Is there a new seduction subreddit that has old school how-to-get-laid advice and insightful breakdowns? Here, it’s like the soyboys have taken over and all they want to do is discuss AFC/chumpy bullshit like their low confidence, low self-esteem, and low (zero?) F-close rates.
/r/seduction25/05/20 02:22 PM
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Don’t think so literally when it comes to "value." In the social context, value is more like the ability to make a girl feel good, happy, relaxed, appreciated, special, and sexy. If you can make her feel that way, then you’d better believe that the charm side of your game will be well in hand. Now, you just need to add some edge, ie some bad boy, some cocky/funny to your game for balance, and you’ll be ahead of the pack. Emotionally, early on, focus on winning her heart and everything that comes…
/r/seduction13/05/20 07:24 AM
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You are correct. I just noticed the change. I'm in the wrong place. Carry on.
/r/seduction09/05/20 05:58 PM
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Agreed. Options are great and the best way to optimize your number of options is to learn all kinds of Game. By the time you get good at social circle game, online game, day game, night game, etc., you’ll have plenty of women coming into your life. Then getting goods at female psychology and communications will assure that you are successful in more and more of your interactions.
/r/seduction21/04/20 11:36 AM
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Whether a lock can be picked depends on how good of a lock-picker you are. Whether a woman can be seduced depends on how good of a seducer you are. If someone says, "locks cannot be picked, locks either open for you or not, it’s all fate or luck or money" then you pretty much know the guy is not a lock picking expert. Why isn’t this just as clear in the seduction community? While it may be true that some seductions are far easier than others, it’s also true that skill makes a HUGE difference, so…
/r/seduction07/03/20 12:53 PM
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The lack of reality is that so much attention should be placed on cold-approach pick up by beginners who have no foundation in game. I think most would do better developing their skills interacting with women in social circle or other venues to learn the ropes.
/r/seduction17/11/19 02:53 AM
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I mean, there are various simple frameworks for understanding seductive relationships and how they develop. "Find, meet, attract, and close" is a good example. These are helpful milestones to keep in mind. But if you want to get good, just embrace the complexity and work smart (and hard). Become a pick-up material connoisseur. There are many types of women and relationships--don’t try to dumb it down. Master it. But I think that you are better
/r/seduction22/10/19 05:53 AM
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The answer to your question is "both." Characteristics like intelligence, kindness, humor, social poise, being a challenge, social proof, status, etc. attract women like crazy. Confidence is one of the most attractive traits. That said, having the confidence to see a target and think, "I can go meet that girl, create a great experience, and find out about her" is instrumentality useful in seduction itself.
/r/seduction22/09/19 12:16 AM
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"[opener] Well, hi ________, nice to meet you. So, what are you in the middle of doing right now?" By pulling her logistics early, you can figure out how much time you have to work with, what her basic circumstances are, and topics of conversation.
/r/seduction21/09/19 11:44 PM
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Don’t give up too fast when it comes to seduction. If the girl isn’t attracted, then try something else to attract her. There are great ideas out there.
/r/seduction21/09/19 10:07 PM
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If you can get hard when you whack off, then the problem is in your head. Just relax.
/r/seduction21/09/19 09:45 PM
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Yeah, it's a low percentage way to approach. Cold approach, daytime pick up is full of rejection and no-closes. This guy got lucky that the girl was receptive to an instadate. If you want better odds, maybe social circle game or online (or escorts).
/r/seduction14/09/19 02:01 AM
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Of course there are things you can do to win the girl over! It’s called "seduction" and you’d think this sub would know something about the topic. Lame ass commentators who tell you to accept the friend zone or give up after the first faint sign of trouble just suck. Ignore them. You have to keep trying more than once with most girls worth having. First, this girl is attracted to you. She reflexively said, "Yes," to your offer. She sees value in you already. She was immediately receptive to your…
/r/seduction13/09/19 08:15 AM
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Like most uncalibrated, hyper-direct behavior, staring at a woman will usually get you rejected. BUT there is an upside. The women who do respond positively are usually very good leads, because she's obviously into you and wants you to approach. Think of it as a numbers game strategy that's not bad at getting results.
/r/seduction03/09/19 01:01 AM
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It’s not just looks that create this possibility. It’s not even mostly looks. Women are attracted to behavior.
/r/seduction01/09/19 05:53 AM
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That same day lays and day-two lays are very possible.
/r/seduction01/09/19 04:57 AM
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Excellent report. My take on it is that women like this were always around, waiting for some guy with enough game to chat them up and merit the F- Close. Now, you are that guy. And your stats are legit: you’ve actually been to a bunch of countries, learned game, etc. But don’t you think that these girls are there for the taking for any guy with enough game to lead them through the meet-attract-close sequence?
/r/seduction01/09/19 04:52 AM
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Not with that glass-half-empty attitude! Lol
/r/seduction25/08/19 05:27 AM
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For sure it was lucky that she was receptive. And you’re right, he was being very direct. I usually read/calibrate the woman when seducing. Did he see something in her? Maybe at the gut level? Who knows? I imagine she lit up positively on eye contact and proxemics. But, yeah, a cold approach day game pick-up approach with a line like that will be a numbers game scenario, lol. Rejection is likely. But, alas, some girls do still respond well to physical compliments and his confident, outcome indep…
/r/seduction23/08/19 02:08 AM
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I definitely want Game to be accessible and fun, but everything I wrote is solid game and will get you laid. So, it’s sort of both hilarious and practical at the same time!
/r/seduction22/08/19 11:15 PM
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👍🏽
/r/seduction22/08/19 10:49 PM
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Lol! Well there is such a program as Silent Seduction, but I usually try to get them to do most the talking. Remember, more guys talk themselves OUT of sex than can talk themselves INTO it, so learn to listen closely and she’ll tell you what you need to know to get the same day lay.
/r/seduction22/08/19 10:43 PM
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Lol, I’m sure we can figure something out! $$$!! JK, EVERYONE should feel free to PM me if I miss a post that you want me to take a look at. Game is one of my favorite hobbies. I was an honors psychology graduate before getting my post-graduate degree (in ??????), but my friends (male and female) are most impressed with my results seducing women and my ability to apply my knowledge of Game in practice.
/r/seduction22/08/19 09:45 PM
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Thanks for saving! I try to write helpful stuff, so positive feedback lets me know where you guys see value. Check out my post history--there's some good stuff (and several rants that people should focus more on learning game, rather than reinventing the wheel). Feel free to ask me questions.
/r/seduction22/08/19 09:15 PM
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Tl;dr: At lunch alone, OP sees a girl and approaches. He deploys a classic "you’re cute" style direct opener and immediately pulls her into an instadate by asking her to join him. He credits his new-found outcome independence with making him less try-hard and supporting his confident vibe. Game breakdown: This is a great interaction. Let’s identify some principles that make it work so that it won’t be luck the next time! "Hi" gets her attention and follows social norms and her expectations. "I’m…
/r/seduction22/08/19 05:52 AM
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Vodka. Get a decent bottle. Shots, OJ, or other juices to mix for cocktales/after-party. And be careful not to come across like a cheapskate, it’s intensely unattractive.
/r/seduction03/08/19 12:38 PM
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If you can’t tell why women are not responding to you in a more emotionally positive way, then you need to work on your emotion intelligence, listening skills, situational awareness, and GAME!! Finding a wingman who's successful with women to watch you and give you tips would help. If you can afford a dating coach, then try that.
/r/seduction03/08/19 12:16 PM
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So, take a look at the OP's post history. WTF is going on?
/r/seduction24/07/19 06:56 AM
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Is this post really about seduction?? Why TF do people keep writing schmaltzy BS like this on this forum? Is there a PG-rated self esteem subreddit out there that might be a better fit for them than a forum about getting laid?
/r/seduction24/07/19 06:50 AM
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Tl;dr: Validating girls on social media makes them even more of a pain in the ass to date, thus RUINING dating for men, so if we stop this behavior, we’ll get laid!! Uhm, what?? [Note: the unfortunate followers of this idiot, dutifully complying with this advice, will stop liking hotties on Instagram, but will be no closer to getting laid or seducing anyone. And what is the title of this subreddit?]
/r/seduction24/07/19 06:37 AM
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No, we don’t.
/r/seduction24/07/19 06:10 AM
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Or she might have just been testing OP with the near-flake, which is why she kept the date as soon as he passed the test by showing self respect!! Imagine that. Wouldn’t it be great if more were known about girls' flaking and how to pass their shit tests so we didn’t have to rely on luck? Your prayers have been answered: you can learn Game!! Try it!! From my point of view, nearly EVERYONE (except for clueless beginners) on a seduction forum should recognise a Test from a hot girl. There are lite…
/r/seduction21/07/19 02:39 PM
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It’s your lucky day, OP, because it seems that your crush is now gaming you. This is the mysterious reason that she's not going back with her ex--she's coming after YOU. Her whole story about the BF "cheating" on her may have been a ruse from the beginning, being used as her way to interest/appeal to you. Do you or your family have more money than she does?
/r/seduction15/07/19 05:52 AM
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So OP misapplies some seduction tech he half-read once and doesn’t understand. Now he speculates that he might not have struck out if he had focused on inner game?? OP just needs to learn Game a little better so he can manage his interactions better.
/r/seduction06/07/19 02:57 PM
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This is a cool memory tool to remember some useful techniques. Thanks.
/r/seduction06/07/19 02:39 PM
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Tl;dr: OP's friend is getting rejected by a girl who he is texting for a date. There is no self-fulfilling prophetic anything. The girl seems unattracted and un-invested.
/r/seduction06/07/19 02:17 PM
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She probably tone shifted because she was afraid of getting caught cheating by her boyfriend by texting flirty with you. Arrange an in-person meetup, read her body language, and escalate according to her level of attraction.
/r/seduction26/04/19 12:36 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joy_of_Sex?wprov=sfti1
/r/seduction04/04/19 07:28 PM
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This idiotic rant takes the cake. Gain the skills and then pick up and seduce whom you please. We’re here to seduce, not judge.
/r/seduction04/04/19 06:27 AM
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Read several books on sex. I recommend The Joy of Sex as a classic. The knowledge of how to please a woman will give you extra confidence and what you learn will put you miles ahead of most guys. The girl may suspect that you’re experienced, too.
/r/seduction04/04/19 06:19 AM
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If you are a happy virgin, wtf are you on a seduction subreddit?? Seduction is the one thing you are NOT into, right? Just continue to delight in persistent celibacy, since by your definition, you are already winning.
/r/seduction11/03/19 03:20 PM
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"The advice of no advice" is like the "be yourself" school of thought. That boils down to dating as a numbers game. Ya win some, ya lose some. Without skill, people depend on luck. If you care so little about the topic of game that luck is the way you want to go, then apply the same approach to MMA. After all, you naturally defend yourself when attacked, so why study martial arts? Just go kick ass, Genius! Whoops, all those guys have skill! Well, the same is true in the dating arena. You sound l…
/r/seduction03/03/19 03:53 AM
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The first rule of game is that you don’t discuss game with the girl! The second rule is not to be a victim of one-itis. But one comeback to this situation would be to say, "So no one who's read an article on dating or relationships has a personality? I challenge you to a game of I’ve Never and you’re going to be drinking because I know you’ve read your share of sex articles!! Heh heh heh. (if others are around, add:)You just got us both busted, Genius." Humor, a fun challenge, sex positive, cold…
/r/seduction24/02/19 07:40 AM
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Yes, this tactic works! I’ve used it myself to hook up and have even written field reports about how to use it at a party of casual acquaintences to escalate sexual tension to the boiling point. Competition, validation, preselection, and attraction are powerful factors in female psychology. S/o to Adam Lyons, who was the first PUA I remember really breaking it down step-by-step, years ago.
/r/seduction30/01/19 09:01 AM
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Man, the good news is that girls are turned on by the guy you are in the moment and how you make them feel. It’s not all about money and status. Far too few people on a seduction forum have even progressed to this level of understanding! Look at Youtube videos of PUAs in action and you’ll see that money has nothing to do with it.
/r/seduction22/12/18 07:37 AM
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I agree that behavior is key, but women are not going to desire men just because you cut your sugar intake and watch less porn! And I agree that inner game is important for anxious or insecure types who lack confidence, but some guys have confidence but just don’t know what to say to girls. The sort of poised, attractive behavior that draws women in is more about understanding the woman you are seducing so that your game can create a good result for her emotionally and experiencially, all so tha…
/r/seduction22/12/18 05:22 AM
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Seduction is not hard, it’s fun! Why the long faces? It’s a process. One simple 4-step seduction formula is: find, meet, attract, close. It’s easier than ever to do most of these seduction steps. Most of what guys are looking for help on this forum for is to get over their own fears or social skill short-falls. Their problems are generally with the meet and attract parts of the process. Those who focus on the goal, work smart, take a course, read a book or two, hang with successfully dating wing…
/r/seduction22/12/18 04:36 AM
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Look, why not work arousal game with this girl and see how much she lets you turn her on? I would be trying to seduce this girl before someone else does.
/r/seduction17/12/18 07:34 AM
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Controlling logistics is very good game. Getting this right can make up for multiple mistakes in other areas of game.
/r/seduction17/12/18 07:17 AM
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All things being equal, I like to satisfy my curiosity and adventure over to her place. But as you get better at game, pulling to nearby bathrooms, closets, empty bedrooms, cars, etc as improvised sex locations will come up, too.
/r/seduction09/12/18 03:54 PM
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You gotta get that set hooked, and you’ll need her focus to do it. I would say that his approach style is actually more alpha persistent than it is truly needy. In this context, I’d define a needy guy as one who would become misemotional if rejected (sad, angry, etc.). Max's approach formula of "100% +fun+ statements of empathy" leaves him as the leader of the interaction no matter what. If, post-approach, the power balance later needs to be corrected because his approach gives away too much pow…
/r/seduction08/12/18 03:18 PM
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There is a much more important lesson to be learned here, and that lesson is that it’s part of the seduction process to be polarizing--some girls will like you and some girls won’t. Rejection is progress by elimination! Mechanically, you are going to go through a bunch of girls and some portion will be "no's". Embrace that there's an unavoidable numbers game element to Game and that you just have to work your way through it like the rest of us do. And don’t take the rejection personally. Many of…
/r/seduction02/12/18 04:28 PM
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The psychology of over-compensation is real, but there's nothing wrong with experimenting, having a bucket list, or partying in your 20's. Strike your own balance.
/r/seduction01/12/18 09:22 AM
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Take a look at the first sentence of OP's second paragraph where he explicitly discusses the physical and emotional attractiveness of the girls.
/r/seduction25/11/18 08:20 PM
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If it’s true that you are judging women by both their physical AND emotional attractiveness, then you simply can’t know whether they’re a 7 or a 9 until after you spend time with them. So when exactly do you "lose interest"? How’s your inner game/self esteem? Are you using seduction to manage deeper emotional issues?
/r/seduction25/11/18 01:49 PM
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You need to forget about flirting for the time being and work on some more basic skills. First, learn to be a friendly person. Learn to be cordial, pleasant, attentive, and complimentary. Next, learn to be a fun person. Learn a little humor, some improv, jokes. Then, go for the friend zone. Just get girls in your life as friends. They will help you better understand women and, eventually, some will likely want to sleep with you. Take an on-campus dancing class. There are plenty of girls to meet,…
/r/seduction25/11/18 01:27 PM
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Sounds like a good plan to me. Does she know you like her? Does she like you? You may want to lay some groundwork to prepare her so that the date-ask is not so out of the blue. "Meet up" is a casual phrase you can use to ask her when the time is right.
/r/seduction12/11/18 04:08 AM
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What do you want to talk to women about? Maybe join an interest group that you like and meet women with the same interest? Being attractive never hurts.
/r/seduction12/11/18 03:02 AM
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I agree that teasing is a great idea and there are a lot of different flavors of tease. It usually becomes even more important as you go for hotter chicks because you can’t afford to give away your power at that level. But you can use tease to be more friendly, fun, or flirtatious at any level. You can use it to make it less clear that you like a girl or more obvious that you do.
/r/seduction12/11/18 02:55 AM
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I really like the questions. Several of them are similar to those questions that have been scientifically proven to trigger intimacy between strangers. These questions give you an obvious edge over the average guy, and that's all you need. But this list has no flirtation. Well as soon as she's warmed up to you, I’d say, "Tell me about [her name] and love..." This is a nice way to bring things to a romantic level on a date like this.
/r/seduction12/11/18 02:14 AM
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Are you and the girl in the same social circle? Compliment and emotionally connect with other women in the group, especially if they’re competitive. Fashion upgrades for you can help, as can a gym membership, but I don’t know your situation. What tactics are you comfortable employing? Jealousy? Jealousy could be key in getting her to recognize your value.
/r/seduction04/11/18 06:01 AM
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I ask because guys who are after one particular girl have certain goals and ways of thinking. Other guys, who want to improve their game generally with women, benefit most from different information when they want to land 9's and 10's or do crazy fun shit with their dating life. Have you ever heard of attachment theory?
/r/seduction04/11/18 02:18 AM
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It's natural to want to leave an interaction early when you are nervous. Solution: Try bouncing to another area in the venue with her or another spot entirely with her in order to blow off some of that nervous energy. Since you are only this nervous with the girls you like is why "this only happens when I think the girls are out of my league." Also, use objective measures to keep your emotions out of it. Is she still hanging around you? Good sign. Is she smiling? Etc. Is there a particular girl …
/r/seduction04/11/18 01:22 AM
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Tease this girl! Don't automatically go all serious and take it as a negative shit test. I'd say something like: "Like you have deadly ninja skills that you'll use on me if I don't tell you?" Or "Fine, A.D.D. chicks have no patience but they are good in bed so I'll come over and we can work something out." Or "Maybe I'll give you a hint, Intimidator, but only if you make me some food and illegally download us something good to watch." Teasing maintains frame, your higher status, and controls her…
/r/seduction04/11/18 01:09 AM
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The strongest possibility is that you are falling for them because they are showing you that they are deeply qualified to be the kind of woman who would make you happy. This can only happen after some intimacy and depth develops between the two of you, which is why you're outside the "initial deciding window." I don't believe in this window. Girls change their minds all the time. Just escalate in every way, but do so in a way and at a rate that's acceptable socially and personally from your girl…
/r/seduction04/11/18 12:34 AM
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Fortune favors the brave. Especially when it comes to women (who naturally like confident men)!
/r/seduction04/11/18 12:08 AM
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Absolutely. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. The better you learn to read women by developing your awareness of her emotional vibe, you will see when you are at good points to escalate. In many ways, game is really just creating these moments.
/r/seduction03/11/18 09:43 PM
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Why wait until the date to add her to your Facebook? Why not add her to your Instagram? Why are you texting for so long without a meetup for coffee or whatever? You can accomplish so much more with a girl in person that I think meeting up with her should be the number one priority. The best case is that this is a shit test and that she still is interested in you (also it could be a rejection). Either way, I’d tease her: "Okay, but only if you tell me what qualifies you to be added on my Facebook…
/r/seduction21/10/18 05:25 PM
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With respect to infield footage on YouTube, check out Todd Valentine or RSD Max who both have videos showing them persist with no-girls who they have to re-open six or seven times before the set hooks. In sales, guys talk about handling multiple objections from prospects. Same idea. In my experience, giving a girl really good laugh can change her from no to yes and win her over quickly. Deflowering virgins is another true example of no-to-yes. The ability to turn girls around is a big reason why…
/r/seduction16/10/18 01:17 PM
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tl ;dr-- Post-wall chicks are being ignored by men their age because their guys are dating younger more sexually desirable women.
/r/seduction16/10/18 06:20 AM
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Attraction always helps, but there is definitely such a thing as completely winning a girl over who had no intention of liking or getting with you. I think that turning the girl from a 'No' to a 'Hell Yes' is a high level of game. One of the old half jokes was that if you seduce a girl who is wearing old underwear, then that was a true seduction, because if most girls think that there's any chance of sex then they will wear their best undies! If you got her so worked up that she's willing to get…
/r/seduction16/10/18 05:37 AM
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A Demonstration of Higher Value.
/r/seduction16/10/18 04:58 AM
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This is my shit. Social circle game plus fucking girls on the job is what naughty guys do. Congrats. The relationship might last longer than the job, but what the hell So here's what you do: first, decide your goal. Do you like one of the girls in particular? Do you want to sleep with more than one of them? Do you sense a three way possibility? If you want one girl, then I would first assess where the two of us are on the hotness scale. If you have a higher SMV or she's into you, then just show …
/r/seduction09/10/18 05:10 AM
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Systems improve skills. Period. Navy SEALs get trained through systems. Doctors and lawyers, same thing. There's no reason that the same wouldn’t apply to dating skills. Everybody can learn. I am/was a "natural." People nick named me after my dating and pick-up exploits during high school and college. But I love the study of people and game and I have studied many game systems personally and enthusiastically since the game movement started to emerge alongside academic study. I’ve learned a lot f…
/r/seduction08/10/18 02:16 AM
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Dance is great for seduction and it sounds like you are in a position of advantage. In these situations, I see if the girl seems interested and then escalate by closing personal distance (depending on the context, approaching from behind her is fine). Tap her shoulder or upper arm to get her to face you or circle around to get eye contact. Back away while dancing and maintaining eye contact. Motion her over to get closer to you. Give a flirtatious half-smile. Think, "you'd be lucky to have me." …
/r/seduction07/10/18 03:31 PM
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Being yourself and understanding that honesty will be polarizing (that is, some girls will like the "true" you and some girls won’t) will get you laid. This is a version of the "numbers game" of dating. It works. Always has. It doesn’t always result in a fuck-close bathroom-pull-at-a-bar first date, though. Lol. You picked the right kind of girl to get that, my friend. But why not pull to her place or yours afterwards? Hmmm, shitty logistics?
/r/seduction07/10/18 02:48 PM
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He should beg for money and buy an escort and/or some lube!
/r/seduction07/10/18 02:21 PM
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Why does this sub always feel like it's 85% total newbies? If you pay attention to game/pick-up/seduction, then most people should pretty much admire your game, ask you for advice, and (regarding your romantic interests) respond positively to your advances. Game is about solutions and gets you positive feedback when you help people out with it or use it directly for your personal benefit. I approach and hook new girls when out with friends or at social functions, and when I do, the other guys lo…
/r/seduction07/10/18 02:16 PM
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The line was good and had the desired effect, but you clearly got lucky with it and people here are either mistaking it for a neg or for rudeness when it was neither of those things. The line worked because it was a (1) bold, (2) good natured (3) teasing remark that showed that you didn't put her on a pedestal and were not chasing her. That creates the social context that makes her see you as the higher status prize and lets her chase you. Plus, you gave her a nice emotional spike in the process…
/r/seduction06/10/18 11:05 AM
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There's some really useful information about last minute resistance (“LMR”) and how to handle it in the first 15 minutes here. Knowledgable seducers address the issue of LMR from the very beginning of the interaction to the very end. One can do this by establishing basic social comfort, generating attraction, managing erotic tension, winning the girl’s investment, triggering her arousal, managing her logistics and closing the deal. Execute as skillfully as you can. Understand game. Make the esca…
/r/seduction10/09/18 05:30 AM
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Here's a Youtube video by Todd Valentine on hooking. https://youtu.be/pAZ0DQr3yYc Here's a longer YouTube video by Todd V. on more areas of game, including hooking. https://youtu.be/tsc9LG-HagM
/r/seduction10/09/18 02:59 AM
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This is very situational. But, if I’m one-on-one, I look for or create well-calibrated kino escalation all the time, because a girl WILL hook if you make her feel good/aroused by touching her in a socially sophisticated and acceptable way. Conversationally, after a very short trust-building opening banter, I change the mood, play to her interests and screen for mine. "You look like trouble. What are you doing later today?" would be to a girl who I think wants to be "bad," plus I pull logistics w…
/r/seduction09/09/18 10:16 PM
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Step 1: Learn more game theory. You are opening fine (great job, it’s not easy for most guys), but the problem is that you are not hooking the girls/sets. Learning more game will help you understand where things are going wrong and access help to fix your problem areas. FYI: "Hooking" a girl or a set is getting them to a point where they would rather have you stay than go, and when they start to invest in the conversation. Step 2: Because they are not hooked, there is little investment from the …
/r/seduction09/09/18 04:10 PM
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A guy who spends his time learning how to handle a woman's moods and emotions is going to get far better dating and sex results than will a guy who spends his time learning how to handle a wardrobe and a weight set. By all means, improve whatever you want to whatever degree you want, but don’t lose sight of the correct priorities.
/r/seduction13/08/18 09:31 AM
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I agree with several others that this cunt's story full stop belongs in /r/pussypass. It's irritating AF to see shit like this as the top post, especially on a sub specifically dedicated to women NOT getting away with it.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/18 02:07 PM
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With respect, I disagree with the quote that OP lifted from the top rated comment: Confidence in seduction does NOT come from having good coping skills or about being fine if an interaction goes sideways; confidence comes from understanding the principles of game and knowing that you are able to apply them as successfully as the situation allows. Your skills and abilities in handling interactions are what will lead to success. Since there can be many anxious moments when it comes to seduction, i…
/r/seduction15/07/18 04:45 AM
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Why do your friends-who-are-girls say that you are not boyfriend material? Ask them! Also, try to ask some guys who are good with girls what issues they see in your game.
/r/seduction13/07/18 12:42 PM
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Basically, say something like this: "When it comes to relationships, right now I’m super focused on work/school/building my future. Don’t get me wrong, I still am going to hang out with interesting people, go places, and maybe have some sex, but serious relationships are not where I am right now." I also would say no more than one or two nights a week with the same girl. One is safer for beginners.
/r/seduction13/07/18 07:35 AM
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Here's a more useful lesson that can be applied to these sorts of interactions: The difference is in the level of attraction. The only time you hear a person complain about someone hitting on them is when the attraction level is low. If OP's gay guy had been his ideal partner then the friend ploy and the gift thing would have been absolute blessings and not any sort of problem at all!But suddenly, when attraction is low, the ploy becomes a problematic because it’s deceptive. The gift offer becom…
/r/seduction13/07/18 07:11 AM
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I find it odd that someone who was having a series of one night stands tells a story where he clearly has no game and generates no sexual arousal in the girl. Yet, he beams at getting her attention while having a conversation that only a beginner would celebrate in what is maybe a baby step towards social circle game. The actual game analysis? By discussing his expertise, he displays intelligence, confidence, and status. By not hard-dicking like the coworkers, he demonstrates social poise and no…
/r/seduction11/07/18 03:36 AM
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The sort of intimacy deepening, comfort dependent sex you mention takes a long time and is just one (traditional) approach. OP is talking more about seduction by triggering arousal in a woman by talking about sex, then likely isolating and escalating kino, etc. Arousal seduction where you “flip her slut switch” is another style of seduction that can work really fast as women prefer casual sex sometimes, too. And it definitely counts as leadership when she pulls you into the bathroom stall or to …
/r/seduction23/06/18 02:43 AM
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I agree that preselection can be a huge attraction accelerator. If you tell women that a guy is taken, they rate him as being more attractive just from that. Absolutely it can work, but like everything else, it can backfire if it comes across as try-hard or inauthentic.
/r/seduction17/06/18 03:20 AM
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This is very doable. My current main girl is 8 years younger and two girls before her I dated a 21 year old college student. Just hit up your local colleges, strip clubs, or retail stores, which are filled with that age of female, and start making friends. You don’t want to appear too desperate or too sexually motivated, so I’d start indirect/neutral/friendly, build intrigue, show social poise, make her laugh, and escalate from there.
/r/seduction03/06/18 03:40 PM
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It’s very empowering when rejection starts to lose importance and you can focus on the interaction itself, so congrats on taking such a big step. That said, using a direct approach in a cold approach scenario is extremely vibe dependent (ie your vibe must be great) and has more risk than reward. For most girls, going direct is "too much, too fast" since she doesn’t know you and you will rapport-break the girl and will have to deal with trying to handle rejection all day. It’s possible, but you c…
/r/seduction03/06/18 03:21 PM
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Two types of women have social fields like the one you describe your girlfriend as having: one type has sex with many of the guys orbiting her and the second type flirts, but does not have sex with the guys. You will likely improve your chances of maintaining a relationship with this girl if you are the guy she is sleeping with. If you can’t tell if the Snapchat guy is competition, all the more reason to seal the deal with your girl ASAP. Don’t try to logic or reason your way into her bed, just …
/r/seduction25/03/18 02:29 PM
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We need a red pill sticky or even a new subreddit dedicated to (1) people who are fixated on STI risks (keep whacking off, it’s 100% safe) and (2) people who give advice to "lift weights." WE HAVE ALL HEARD THIS SHIT BEFORE. THANK YOU.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/18 11:46 AM
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To get older women, you have to find, meet, attract, and seduce them. So which steps are holding you up? Generally speaking, you’ll need to understand the woman you’re interested in. If you’re 22 and want to date a woman 32, it’s a lot different than being 18 and wanting to date a chick who’s 28, which is different than being a freshman who is eyeing a senior. The best thing you can do is to know what you’re looking for from the woman. Saying, "I’m looking for a woman who has already figured out…
/r/seduction11/03/18 04:18 PM
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Everything from your body language to your conversational framing will broadcast to women how much pussy you’re getting. Attention creates attention, so when some women want you, more women will want you (preselection). The women start to compete with each other and for your attention because of jealously and because of their pursuit of female egotistical gratification (winning and validation). Soon you're over-sexed. You honestly don’t give a fuck what any of them thinks. They all get wetter be…
/r/seduction15/11/17 08:29 AM
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It sounds like you have relationship values and desires for a steady, serious girlfriend that conflict with the FWB deal you have going. Good job on knowing what you want and demonstrating some romantic leadership in your relationships to go out and take it.
/r/seduction22/10/17 03:08 PM
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Hahaha I can't vouch for that story, and I don't like tattoos so it's not relevant to me, but meeting and seducing people you've never met is certainly possible!
/r/seduction23/07/17 03:45 PM
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The girlfriend I had before my last girl was a cold approach pick up! That relationship developed into a long term romance and we moved in to an apartment together for over a year. I only do cold approach when I see a girl who interests me--I don’t do some regiment like "do XYZ number of cold approaches per day", but I understand why some guys practice that way. My current girl I met through an old job and the one before that was through social circle, so I use all methods. By the time you’re da…
/r/seduction23/07/17 03:32 PM
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The promise of cold approach is being able to seduce any woman you happen to be near. Look at PUA's like Justin Wayne and RSD Todd to see high level cold approach at work. Who wouldn’t want to be able to get results like that? That said, the idea of doing game for the love of game versus doing game as a chore also comes up. When guys are so into ideas of "efficient" game and plugging numbers into an equation, then the fun can be lost. If you get your cold approach game down, then you’re always r…
/r/seduction23/07/17 02:17 PM
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First of all, I’d say that game is all about getting what you want out of your dating life, whatever your age. Continue to go for what you want! But how to best get it? Two things jump out at me about your situation: (1) it sounds like you want more mutual self-disclosure and intimacy with the girls in your romantic life, but they aren’t down for this, and (2) there may be problems with how you’re coming across to the girls that are making things more difficult. The mutual self-disclosure part h…
/r/seduction23/07/17 01:41 PM
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A more indirect or neutral opener would be something like opening the girl or set by asking a non sexual average question like (from Adam Lyons): "Excuse me, do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?" Justin Wayne would ask girls about "healthy juice places." The idea is to build a basic level of social comfort before you take things in an overtly sexual direction. Next, the set engages with you to answer your question out of her/their sense of social intelligence ("There's a Starbucks three b…
/r/seduction02/07/17 11:04 AM
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Watch Justin Wayne, RSD Todd, or Adam Lyons (or several others) for how to really do daytime cold approach pick-up. But back to rejection. Were the alleged boyfriends claimed by the girls real? He sure as hell primed their rejection mechanisms with his choices (1) to use an ultra direct opener for cold approach daytime pick-up and (2) to ignore the girl's friends in multi-party sets. That shit will get you rejected FAST, even if you are a pretty boy, because it’s showing low social intelligence.…
/r/seduction02/07/17 12:49 AM
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Having an exciting, empowered, and fulfilling love life is part of living well--like eating great food or traveling to beautiful places or driving a car that makes your pulse quicken. Game helps you to achieve social goals, and psychologically healthy people usually want to successfully interact with others. I love game and have learned from all sorts of game ideas, so I think a person should chase their ideal lifestyle, however much sex that is for them.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/17 10:36 AM
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I’ve read "Models"--it’s good stuff. I’ve studied PUA-style game--it’s good stuff. Listening to a devotee of one school over-simplify/criticise the other school is not good stuff. I really like this field, so I can enthusiastically embrace all sides of it and anyone who has ideas on it. Then I try out the new ideas. Then I profit--whatever happens, because I’ve learned something. I’ve seen both kinds of dating advice work wonders, and they are not mutually exclusive. A ruthless PUA can get laid …
/r/seduction16/04/17 11:16 PM
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If there are any dating coaches around you, or even guys who get laid a lot, then beg or pay them to come watch you pick up chicks. You are doing important things wrong, my friend, and good advice will help a bunch. I have read Models and you should, too. It sounds like you are still deciding whether to be authentic or a performer or a bit of both. Lose your over-investment ASAP, though. It’s killing your vibe. Some practical advice: take an on-campus dancing course (I like ballroom dance for th…
/r/seduction14/04/17 11:09 PM
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Game is all about giving yourself more and more options. In my experience, if you can get the level of compliance you want out of a girl, then there's no reason not to keep fucking her or having her do things for you well into the future. So sure, dump or "next" girls who are hopelessly toxic, but as you get better you’ll be able to de-toxify and frame control more and more difficult girls, just like handling harder and harder shit tests. That way, even if she's not girlfriend material, then may…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/17 02:20 PM
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Focus on your game. Inner game is only a part of the issue. Become proficient at game. Become the guy your buddies ask for advice on girls. Read and watch and pay for good advice. You will get better. Invest in yourself. Pretty soon, you’ll be getting hook-ups left and right. Then lays. Then relationships. Boom, you’re done with insecurity on women.
/r/seduction19/02/17 09:01 AM
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I’d say that your sex life is there to make you happy, so just make the decisions that make you happy. If you happen to be in a superficial stage, just go with it. I will say this: the best sex I’ve had hasn’t come from the hottest chick I’ve been with, so you’ll definitely cost yourself some epic memories by ignoring most women. I think I’ve had sex with a range of chicks from a "lowly" two all the way to working model ten. I’d go for numbers if I were you. You’ll learn a lot more about women, …
/r/seduction11/02/17 04:03 AM
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Congrats, my man. While she did most the early work, your instincts about (1) when to use your disinterest to keep her chasing and (2) when to soften up and emotionally connect with her were (3) fucking perfect. The intense emotional connection plus the amount of physical distance you two have can be useful in setting her up as a long term FWB/mTLR who’s a willing sex partner whenever you want. It’s perfect because there's too much physical distance for her to expect an intense, exclusive relati…
/r/seduction01/01/17 04:29 PM
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Learn some sign language and sign her a little message. Whether she gets it or not, she’ll be impressed. But it seems like you are meeting these girls via social circle game, so you can just indicate your interest indirectly. Just ask your common friends about your romantic target's dating availability and let them do the rest. Girls love that sort of thing.
/r/seduction30/10/16 03:06 AM
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I like this idea of increasing action-taking by using drills to keep yourself accountable. Whether you prefer inner or outer game, daygame or nightgame, or whatever, you can adapt the drills to keep you moving towards your goals.
/r/seduction30/10/16 02:44 AM
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Tl;dr To demonstrate and convey more status, after someone asks you a question, hold eye contact and look at them for three seconds before responding. They will naturally take your response more seriously and you as a person will thus have more status in their eyes.
/r/seduction26/10/16 01:15 PM
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What to do during the ride to the pull location (your place or hers) depends on how much heat there has been in the interaction so far and why there's not more heat. But here's what can work well in almost any situation: Use some arousal level touching. Touching her sensitive areas that are not her boobs or crotch can either keep things hot or continue to heat things up. Justify the touch only if you need to do so to smooth things out, because silent physical escalation with just eye contact is …
/r/seduction23/10/16 11:43 AM
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This is a great book. Understanding how language, learning, and profound psychological change like militarization occur is a perfect example of power language.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/16 12:06 PM
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I’m so jealous that you’re still in college. Best years ever. You guys are going to have it so good having this info around. Girls are sorting a bunch of stuff out when college aged. My advice is to go crazy and sleep with consenting sex partners that you’re attracted to. I’m a terrible adult, but you’ll only really regret the girls you don’t sleep with, unless you make the big mistake and get someone pregnant or you catch a serious disease. So my first rule of game is simply this: don’t make th…
/r/seduction20/09/16 03:06 AM
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This story is 100% true, but I can understand your skepticism. A make-out is not that big a deal to me, but the social dynamics here were cool, which is why I wrote it up. Also to show that game is more than cold approaching X number of girls per day. It’s applying attraction and arousal techniques as suits your purpose. When I first met Hollywood girl a couple of years ago, she was fucking a married guy on the show they both worked on. I was fucking a friend of hers who introduced us. Some of t…
/r/seduction19/09/16 09:38 PM
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I think location matters with respect to the relevant culture that you’re in. To me, it’s culture that's key. I think culture impacts things like the percentage of women who, for example, might believe in pre-marital sex. But within any culture, there are going to be some girls in every conceivable category of woman (from the virgins to the nymphomaniacs). For instance, there are DTF girls in most female populations, but they are usually pretty subtle because they don’t want to be judged or slut…
/r/seduction19/09/16 09:17 PM
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