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You're trying very hard to make your point that there are situations where buying a house doesn't make sense. That's fine. It doesn't touch at all on the point that for some men a $400 paternity test, no matter how many thousands in child support it might save them in the future, might as well cost a million.
/r/MensRights03/09/16 01:52 AM
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You're talking about flipping a house and comparing it to ROI from other places you could park your money. You're not really talking about acquiring housing, except maybe as a fringe benefit of making investments.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 07:40 PM
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First you go "why doesn't everybody just save up 50 grand and buy a house, it's so easy" Sorry, I forgot that some members of this audience can't grasp the concept of sarcasm without a "/s" tag. I was making a comparison to illustrate that spending money now to save money later is a great idea, if you have the money now. Most people can't pony up $50,000 to buy a house - or even $5000 to make a downpayment on one - so they're stuck paying monthly rent instead of building equity in a house. They …
/r/MensRights02/09/16 07:30 PM
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But can you honestly not think of a way to save up $400 across 4-5 months? I can, certainly. I've also never been desperately poor, and I suspect that neither have you. You keep saying that it's cute that I think everyone can do this, but I honestly can't not see a way to do this. And this is why I'm reasonably certain that you've never been nearly as close to "just surviving" as you think you have. Maybe for the supremely unlucky, who have a broken down car, or a boss who doesn't want to give t…
/r/MensRights02/09/16 07:19 PM
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It depends if you're buying housing or investing money. Take a look at average comparisons - apples to apples - between the cost of renting and the cost of owning when it comes to how much you're spending on having a roof over your head. In my area a mortgage + taxes + maintenance on a 3-bedroom will set you back about $900 a month. Renting the exact same house will cost you $1600 or more a month, with no equity and regular increases in rent that outpace the increases in property taxes and maint…
/r/MensRights02/09/16 07:00 PM
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Dude... A bit of extreme to highlight the concept that yes, spending a little more now to save a lot more later is a great idea - if you've got the money to do it. That applies whether you're talking about having $100K available or having $400 available.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 06:31 PM
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You're speaking from the point of view of someone who could reasonably see spending an entire week's income on a single event, and can look over your budget and see a reasonable way to free up $100 a month of "extra" money. It's great that you can do that. Don't think that your experience matches everyone's.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 03:54 PM
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Sounds like you're in the market for investments, not housing.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 03:45 PM
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Except that paternity testing is actually affordable, as in less than $400. Which is a great deal, and will save you a lot of money...if you've got $400. There are a lot of families out there who get to choose between eating this month and spending $400 - and families who've never even seen $400 in one place at the same time. Yeah, such families probably shouldn't be having kids in the first place, but this isn't a discussion about people who are making easy choices.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 03:24 PM
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Buying a house for cash is a much better deal than renting, or even getting a mortgage. It can save you thousands of dollars in the long term! Why doesn't everyone take care of their living arrangements by simply ponying up the money and buying a house?
/r/MensRights02/09/16 02:49 PM
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Giving anyone who identifies as a woman the right to use female facilities despite the objection of the actual women using the same facilities is a train wreck waiting to happen. Yup, a train wreck waiting to happen all right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 02:11 PM
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A trans person just has a frustrating birth defect they have to deal with. Some people are born with a leaky heart valve, other people are born with a body that insists on developing as a sex other than the person's brain is set up for. Changing the brain enough to deal with the problem destroys the person, so that's right out - the only remaining choice, imperfect as it is, is to let them change their body best we can.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 05:21 PM
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Being trans isn't their sexual orientation. Many trans people are gay or bi, but gender is who you are while sexual orientation is who you want to be with.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 05:18 PM
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I keep running into people who don't seem to understand the years of medical examinations and hormone treatments involved in transition. It's like they think you can wake up one morning, pop into a clinic and get your bits rearranged on a lark.
/r/MensRights03/09/15 03:51 PM
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Why do people always go to the most egregious examples? I never said anything about sexual assault. Oh, so it's just "kids being kids", so there's really nothing to worry about? The fear mongering doesn't really work when you're wishy-washy about it.
/r/MensRights03/09/15 02:47 AM
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You're wording it like I'm somehow personally affected, as if that's the only reason I could be concerned about an issue. You're the one saying it isn't the answer. I'd like to know what you think the answer is. Trans people still have very high suicide rates even post-op, Let me guess...you're basing this on the famous Swedish study that shows higher suicide rates post-op for trans people? If so, you're not actually reading the study. It points out that their suicide rates, while still higher t…
/r/MensRights03/09/15 12:52 AM
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You got any proof that the incidence rate has held constant? I didn't say it held constant. You're the one who claimed that if we went back to some earlier time gender dysphoria would "diminish to non-existance". 5000 year old skeleton of a transgender person. Two-spirit people are considered in indigenous American cultures to have magical powers. Patrons of "Molly Houses" in Georgian England of the early 1700's risked execution to live as women where they could. Transgender priestesses were com…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 08:53 PM
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There are trans people in stone age tribes, /u/Piroko. There have been trans people as far back as we have historical records. Where do you get the idea that trans people are a modern phenomenon?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 08:31 PM
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There are things we don't try, because of the awkward implications it would have for the progressive narrative. What things would you have us try? What treatments do you think aren't being used because they have "awkward implications"? And, again, why is it so important to you that these people fix their minds instead of their bodies?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 08:20 PM
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If the anatomy matches the genes and the mind disagrees then the mind is in error. We fix the part that is in error. All attempts to fix the mind have failed. Gender identity, as far as we can tell, is as unchangeable as sexual orientation. What evidence do you have that shows otherwise? The only way to "fix" the mind would be to destroy it - and that's not a reasonable recommendation. Since we can't change the mind, the only thing left to change is the body - to put things in your terms, the bo…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 08:05 PM
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Logic isn't belief. Your logic is based on some very poor assumptions - that is, what you believe. Those assumptions aren't very well connected with the reality that trans people go through. I have depicted how it is a violation of their hippocratic oath. You have claimed that they are playing God, because they're using a treatment method that upsets you. That's not "playing God", that's just not letting you make the call. MY BELIEF which I have not previously stated because it is neither here n…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 07:39 PM
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Surgery may not be the answer you want them to use, but what's the alternative treatment you recommend? A trans person doesn't have to keep their body in its original configuration to keep you happy, do they?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 07:12 PM
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If the anatomy matches the genes and the mind disagrees then the mind is in error. You've repeatedly stated your belief about proper medical treatment for this condition. You haven't told me why your belief trumps the professional opinions of the majority of medical professionals. Why are they all wrong and you're right? Why should trans people look to you for their care instead of the doctors who are treating them?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 06:07 PM
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Bullshit. Well, there's no arguing with that, is there?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 05:55 PM
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If the anatomy matches the genes then the body is not in error. The mind is. Thus the mind is what needs to be repaired. Gender identity, as far as we can tell, is about as alterable as sexual orientation - that is, not. "Repairing" the mind would mean destroying the patient as a person. That's monstrous, especially since the only reason for doing so would be to get the patient to conform for your comfort, not theirs.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 05:19 PM
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You do not treat psychological disorders with surgery. You don't. Then again, I doubt you're a physician or mental health professional. Helping trans people transition works better than anything else we've ever tried to improve their quality of life. We should stop helping them and go back to treatments that don't work, because you don't like the treatments that do?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 04:03 PM
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A treatment for what, sir? The medical treatment for a condition recognized by the AMA and the APA, usually known as gender dysphoria. I can see that the treatment process bothers you, but why should I accept your opinion on what is proper treatment for this condition over the majority of medical professionals on this subject?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:53 PM
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Whats to stop some dude from 'declaring' himself feminine long enough to get a peek inside the women's room (or the reverse too)? There's about a dozen states where trans people can legally use the bathroom of the gender they identify with. The stuff you're worried about isn't happening in any of them.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:41 PM
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Here's the thing. Bathrooms aren't divided based on gender identity, they're divided based in biological sex. Since no one is standing at the entrance performing genital checks before letting people in, what you'll actually find the bathrooms are divided based on is people's gender presentation - which gender's average appearance the person most closely fits.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:38 PM
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To equate using a objectively better bathroom to the racism that has people create objectively worse water fountains for black people is rather stunning. The point isn't whether the bathroom is prettier or not. The point is that setting that one student apart from all the others makes them an outsider. Imagine that you're a high school student, and the administrators don't let you eat lunch in the cafeteria - they decide, for your own good, that you're going to eat it alone in the faculty lounge…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:35 PM
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ok, well how the fuck do you cure transgenderism? Protip: you can't. You just give them an operation. Fun bit about this...a large number of trans people never get "the surgery". They may not have access to it for financial or legal reasons, they might be leery of effectiveness of the surgery (especially for female to male trans people, surgically-constructed penises are much less advanced than surgically-constructed vaginas). They might even be OK with their factory-installed parts, and just ha…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:29 PM
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An accepted and effective medical treatment makes you uncomfortable, so we should stop using it?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:10 PM
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He mentions that 80% of people with GID will spontaneously change their mind. This is true...if you're talking about only children that are pre-pubescent. Also when you do things that study did, like call every boy who ever touches a barbie doll "gender variant", and decide that every kid who dropped out of the study "spontaneously changed their mind". It was a crap study from start to finish. Paul McHugh later went on to defend the Catholic Church's issues with pedophile priests by claiming tha…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:09 PM
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They need counseling or therapy or something other than surgery. Note that trans people get years of counseling and therapy before they get anywhere near a surgeon. This isn't something a person does on a whim.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 03:00 PM
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Use whatever words you like. Thank you for choosing the words you're choosing, it makes it easier for civilized people to know what kind of dross they're dealing with whenever you open your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 01:35 PM
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You're defending your right to use nasty slurs to refer to people. Don't expect hugs for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 12:34 PM
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Says the person who is judging someone entirely on a few sentences. It doesn't take much exposure to poop before you notice the stink.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 02:19 AM
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You are terrible at reading, That's a piss poor defense you've chosen for being such a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 11:38 PM
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my point still stands. Your "point" was anything that lets you keep using nasty slurs to refer to people, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 01:31 PM
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Men tend to use these words when they're insulting or degrading women. "Tranny" (as well as the other labels for trans women in porn) tend to get used the same way when called out to passers-by in the street - or shouted at someone who's being beaten to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 12:50 AM
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Slut, whore, bimbo, bitch, lezzie - yeah, porn labels are a great guide to respectful ways to address people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/14 03:15 PM
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Rule of thumb: if it's commonly used as a label for porn clips, it's probably not polite to call people that term in general conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/14 05:40 AM
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True. This is powerlifting, which means that, like MMA, competitors are divided into weight classes. I suspect that kind of division makes far more difference than what their crotch looked like when they were born. I wouldn't expect a trans man to have much success at, say, professional football, where everyone from the smallest and lightest built to the walking bulldozers compete on the same field, but when a trans man is competing with people of similar size the outcome will be more a matter o…
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 01:07 PM
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But watching feminism tear apart their allies in the LGBT community is hilarious. The noisiest (i.e., craziest) feminists don't have any allies in the T part of the LGBT community. These TERF's see trans women as undercover agents of the eeeevil patriarchy, sent to infiltrate their sacred womyn-only spaces, while they see trans men as gender traitors.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 04:52 AM
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I notice that everyone is ignoring the fact that MMA uses weight classes. Someone who grows up as a guy and then transitions to being a girl loses all their testosterone - even a genetic girl has some in their system, more than an MtF. That means an MtF loses muscle mass and muscle density, all they're left with from their male past is a larger frame than they would have had if they'd been on estrogen from the start. All that larger frame gets them is matchups with women who are bigger like they…
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 04:44 AM
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Kinnon MacKinnon took powerlifting gold in competition against other men. He was assigned female at birth, transitioned to male.
/r/TheRedPill26/09/14 04:35 AM
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How can society deny me cis man privilege if they can't tell me apart from cis men? Pretty easily. Cis man privilege goes to the men who most closely fit society's gender role expectations of men. The men who don't fit those ideals so well get all the responsibilities, just not so much of the privilege.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 03:52 PM
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Your first example is objective your second example is subjective. Race is a social construct, subjective based on varying interpretations of objective data points. So is gender. Nowhere close to apples to apples. So, are you comfortable walking up to a transgender person and telling them, "You're transgender, I'm normal"?
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 03:49 AM
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I would say that "cisgender" is the norm and "transgender" is not. There's a difference between identifying something as "the norm" and identifying a person as "abnormal". Most who don't see a problem with this have never been the person blithely dismissed as "abnormal" - which, when we're dealing with real live human beings, never ends up as a matter of pointing out an interesting variance from the norm, it always ends up as a package deal of treating the person as less than human.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 03:45 AM
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This is your daily friendly reminder that white people are not actually the majority of the people in the world. This is you daily friendly reminder that a lot of white people live in white-majority bubbles, or in societies evolved from white-majority bubbles. I'm not white, I'm one of "those brown-colored people" as you put it. That's fine, and irrelevant. The comparison doesn't assume that you're white, brown, yellow or green - it merely asks you to be aware enough of your society to appreciat…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 03:41 AM
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Let's just say it isn't the most tactful way to present the idea. Are you comfortable declaring yourself the normal one, and those who aren't like you, those who deviate from your particular norm - gays, people who are transgender, maybe even ethnic minorities you encounter - are "abnormal"?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 03:33 PM
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So you're comfortable saying that you're normal and gay or transgender people are not, just as a white person might be comfortable declaring themselves normal, not like those brown-colored people. Thanks for making that clear. You're exactly the kind of person who is likely to be offended by the use of the term "cis", mainly because your behavior makes it far more likely that you'll encounter it in the context of someone calling you on your bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 03:30 PM
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No. Transgender is not a norm or inherited characteristic like race is. Trust me, transgender isn't something people choose either. How about, "That person is homosexual, I'm normal". Would you feel comfy saying that, and not expect people to look at you like you were something unpleasant scraped off the bottom of a shoe for talking that way?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 08:15 AM
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No, just white/Caucasian, although I'm not seeing how that's relevant. Compare these two statements: "That person is Asian, I'm Caucasian." "That person is transgender, I'm normal." Get it?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 07:49 AM
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Why does it have to be either cis/trans at this point? To me, if you're a man you're a man, if you're a woman you're a woman, if you're a MtF you're a woman, if you're a FtM you're a man. It only comes up when someone has to make the distinction between people who identify themselves as the gender they were assigned at birth and those who don't. If you don't find yourself dealing with such situations then you won't find yourself using trans- or cis- modifiers very much. People who deal with the …
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 07:29 AM
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Check Tumblr. It's almost always hand-in-hand with scum. No more than "white" is almost always hand-in-hand with "slave-owning oppressor". It may be that the people who send you "hey you gotta see this" Tumblr links are only sending you the ones with over the top drama going on, because they think the other ones are boring.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 07:17 AM
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In terms of sexuality though I'm straight, so I'm with the majority. That's never been up for debate. Trans are the deviations or abnormal ones Tell me, when you're discussing someone's ethnicity, do you describe others as whatever their ethnicity happens to be and yourself as "normal"?
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 07:03 AM
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Well they deviate from the mean don't they? Certainly. So do you, and everyone else - transgender people just vary a little more than most. Seriously, this isn't something to get all frantic about. How often do you find yourself in a situation where you're comparing yourself to someone who presents themselves as transgender? If you're talking about men's issues, you're talking about men's issues, whether all the men involved were identified as such at birth or not - it's only if there's somethin…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 06:52 AM
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The argument here isn't that people should or shouldn't use the word 'normal.' It's that I shouldn't be asked to call myself cis male instead of male. Again, it isn't a matter of demanding that you apply "cis" to yourself in everyday conversation. It's only applied in situations where one needs to differentiate between people who are cis and people who are not - and considering that trans people make up a very small fraction of the population (> 1%?), those situations don't come up often enough …
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 06:41 AM
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You're ignoring the primary idea behind "cis": it's applied in situations where it is useful to differentiate between people who are "trans" and people who are not.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 11:10 PM
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What do you mean by "safe to approach"? If you're attracted to someone, approach them and don't be a dick to them. If you're not attracted to someone, don't pester them. If it's necessary for your potential sex partners to have a penis or a vagina that they'd like you to play with, then tactfully ask them about it. Beyond that let them identify with whatever makes them comfortable.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 10:03 PM
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It's kind of like how heterosexual people get labelled "straight" instead of "normal". Calling a cisgender person "normal" implies that a transgender person is "abnormal" or "broken", and that has unpleasant connotations. You don't have to feel like someone's applying "cis" to you without your permission, as it really only gets applied in situations where the discussion includes trans people and "cis" gets applied to differentiate those who identify with the gender the doctor picked when they we…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 10:00 PM
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I remember seeing a hidden camera video comparing men at strip clubs with women at strip clubs. The men were quiet, staring, almost looked scared to move. The women were screaming, laughing, grabbing the dancers.
/r/MensRights17/02/14 11:44 PM
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That was bad legal advice Depends...was he more interested in getting victory, money and teaching the school a lesson, or more interested in eventually working in the medical profession? Especially since, cynically speaking, the lesson the school would probably have learned was "Cover your asses better when slapping down uppity men".
/r/MensRights05/12/13 06:48 PM
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