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As an adult I see where it's wrong due to the power dynamic, but when I was that age there were teachers that I would have loved to fuck. If I was a little horny 16 year old boy, I would have fucked this teacher and I don't even think she's hot.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/02/17 05:01 AM
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Fucking legend. The fact he paid in cash was so diabolical too. Because if he just lied and she went down there, she'd go home, but now she has to pay for her cookies. What an evil genius.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/12/16 02:22 AM
11

Silly jizz wanters.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/16 06:40 PM
1

Thing is, I never needed to be taught a thing to get laid. You either have it or you don't. It's not just about getting laid. Some guys I work with have social anxieties, or are looking to improve themselves to attract the type of women/men they desire. Judging by a few of your comments, you seem like a really angry, judgmental, person, it wouldn't surprise me if you needed a bit of help getting laid, people who have frequent sex aren't nearly as grumpy. I frequent most major American and Canadi…
/r/PussyPassDenied16/07/16 06:15 PM
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It's cool I have plenty of comments on reddit explaining how I teach social dynamics, dating, and pickup. If you dig deep enough you'll see a picture or two of me and you'll be able to link me up with my social.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/07/16 08:05 AM
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No, I hit on her at a party in OC, didn't hear from her for a week, she texted me, and then we went out for drinks and went back to hers where he boyfriend was waiting for us.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/07/16 02:18 AM
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Honestly, even though I had to let her much older boyfriend watch, she was wild. Solid fuck. However, don't stick around for cleanup her boyfriend starts getting touchy feely not sure if gay or just really celebratory. Super fucking weird.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/07/16 10:59 PM
-1

I make a lot of money for my age Making $25 an hour on top of other things lol fucking rolling in it
/r/seduction07/01/14 09:14 AM
18

Don't be someone you're not. It comes off as cringey. Slowly grow into the person you want to be.
/r/seduction06/01/14 06:33 AM
20

It really doesn't matter. As long as you're fun and interesting you can do anything for a date. I've done everything form skipping stones, to concerts, to volunteer work, to sex clubs, and everything in between. it honestly doesn't matter. The girl is only concerned with the takeaway: Did I have fun with this guy? She doesn't give a shit about the cafe, or the bar, or shawarma's. As long as she enjoyed your company you're golden. And I really want to emphasize something because too many of you a…
/r/seduction03/01/14 07:12 AM
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VH1
/r/seduction06/11/13 07:15 AM
3

Everyone's different. There are hot girls with high standards, and low standards. Landwhales with a sense of confidence and hamplanets with serious issues. Your mindframe while true in a sense is fucking damning. So many men believe such things, and sometimes they are true, but you have no idea how many times I'm told by the hottest women I know about some ugly dudes rush of courage and his attempt at approaching a "model". It's annoying. You really need to treat each approach as it's own entity…
/r/seduction10/10/13 10:11 AM
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Some do. You're relying on the barest sense of attraction though. You can get away with this if you're good looking. It works on occasion, but I wouldn't do it unless I really didn't have the time and had to be somewhere. Then it's not really a line either. Sometimes, my students will actually set up precursors like this to the set which end up screwing them over in the end. Never set time constraints if you really don't have them. So many guys could cash in on instadates if they weren't so preo…
/r/seduction06/10/13 06:24 AM
27

Well done man. I like your back and forth, very quick witted. You do a great job of bringing in the friend too. One thing I would recommend is sometimes you go a little bit tooo high energy and talk a bit fast. Otherwise really great job. I lost it when you called her a little shit. I instantly thought, 'this guy has his shit together'. New fan. :)
/r/seduction01/10/13 06:20 AM
35

Very few people think this way, but as this is my job, and I think very altruistically towards a certain pack of men. If you were polite to my girl, and you seem cool, I'll mark my territory by kissing her quickly, and tell her I'll be right back. I grab the guy around his shoulders with a smile (you can get away with so much with a smile) walk up to the very next hot girl I see, and say, "It's my mates hurrfuffle day" and then just walk away. The mass fucking confusion on both sides cuts throug…
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:25 AM
24

I like the second paragraph. The first one scares me if left untreated. You run the risk of making her feel unwanted or like you don't care. It's a great frame of mind for a few ticks, but after that it starts backfiring on ya. A good plan would be to combine your first and second paragraph.
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:18 AM
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I have to see past looks to find somebody attractive. 100 per cent – any guy can date a model. Look at this fucking troll she dated, here's regular guy, David Gandy All jokes aside the dude is fucking alphas as fuck. I've met him--thought he was the coolest dude ever. I was jealous as fuck.
/r/seduction20/09/13 11:26 PM
2

Always have fun. That's my motto.
/r/seduction19/09/13 09:42 PM
1

I agree. But if you think about how many guys open with crummy lines, it only makes sense that lots of women would also do it.
/r/seduction19/09/13 09:39 PM
1

See this is some stupid bullshit. There is nothing instinctual about this. You need to keep a more open mind--there are girls who are using you and testing you--but there's also girls who are as fucking shit at observational openers as you are, and are just looking for a reason to start talking to you. It's a fairly safe and socially contrived element of the bar scene.
/r/seduction19/09/13 10:07 AM
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Sometimes it's just a opener for her though. She sees you at the bar and she doesn't know what to say, so she thinks of the most cliche thing that comes to mind and hopes you end up talking to her. Sometimes it's a shittest, sometimes it's just her reaching out. Some girls are totally just trying to use you (that's why I don't like OP's wording about spending money on her for the date--good plan datewise but it just defers the problem) and some actually like you but are too socially awkward to a…
/r/seduction19/09/13 10:01 AM
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I just want to chime in on the talking to everyone thing. It's great advice but do it with some restraint. I've literally seen neckbeards take this advice to heart and start "Hi'ing" everyone they pass and trying to start conversations with them--it comes off super autistic and non-authentic. And while you might be solving one problem you're creating an entirely different one. What I teach my students is to smile at everyone, and if a woman responds with a smile (it's not as frequent as you migh…
/r/seduction11/09/13 11:22 PM
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I somewhat disagree. It's easier and you have to try a lot less if you are good looking. I'm not going to bullshit people who aren't as attractive as me. I have had a few students who were not good looking in the slightest with surprisingly solid skills, that just couldn't catch a break. When it would happen though, I'd put money on it that they have better success than someone with shit game, but the fact remains the better you are the better your lockpicking skills are at opening up a girl. Fo…
/r/seduction11/09/13 09:54 AM
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One thing I learned from a conference a few years back is the actresses/plants are typically too stupid to not be aware of the camera and will subconsciously address it. If you notice, when she says are you hanging out with friends she looks straight in the direction of the camera and points in the direction as if she knows who his friends are(at about 2:25). I'm not saying it's fake but this was one of the things I was taught to look out for when I first started out 6 years ago. Back then thing…
/r/seduction08/09/13 03:23 AM
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Here's what you do. Tomorrow, start up a conversation with her again, open with something like, "Hey remember when I asked you out?" and have a little laugh (it'll get the awkwardness out of the air) then say something like, "have any cute single friends I can ask out?"-- You're going to do three things by doing that: You show her you don't give a fuck (and she'll get a little bit jelly--no matter what her situation really is) You show her you're brave as fuck, most people would just avoid talki…
/r/seduction04/09/13 01:22 AM
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Most known bootcamps (the big name ones) aren't scammy at all. Especially if you go with someone who legitimately cares for your success. My best advice is to just research and read non-biased reviews. Don't spend too much time looking at testimonials on their site. You're going to pay a lot for what it is someone taking, you out to talk to girls, but for most men who feel the need to go it's well worth the money. I'm biased because I do this for a living, but I liken it to personal training at …
/r/seduction23/08/13 06:05 AM
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The thing about sex which some guys here could misinterpret as "faggotry" as per the post, is it's all about communication and observation. There are important elements here to understand but I think it's more important to realize, Everyone's different.
/r/seduction19/08/13 08:00 AM
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The best advice I can give you is, don't worry about it. Sometimes knowledge isn't power but at the end of the day every girl is different. If you're a guy that struggles with competition, and let's face it, that is most of us, just consider the sample size of this panel and other potential biases. That's not to say you can't learn from this, but don't put tooo much into the numbers.
/r/seduction16/08/13 10:31 AM
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This is a great point. I was just about to respond, "Well...it is New York". It's interesting you say that about London. I would have never guessed that, though I've only been there for a few weeks.
/r/seduction16/08/13 10:28 AM
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From experience many girls are just not pre-conditioned for such well mannered thought or just have hectic schedules and require you to do all the heavy lifting. Such situations require a few wasted minutes of clever planning, and most of the time I'm able to fix the snag. Too many guys eject at the smallest sense of turbulence. Whether it be during the approach or after. Gun for an immediate solution that catches her off guard. If she says she has class all day, and then dance practice after, a…
/r/seduction19/07/13 10:57 AM
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Honestly, this sub worries me because of the next sentence and how everyone here is like "WICKED POST MAN". It's saying some basic groundwork stuff which is par for the course here, but it's sprinkled with some pretty shitty advice. "The point is they aren't objects to be manipulated" Yes they are. That is exactly what women are. Perhaps the language is a little harsh, but women want to be controlled. It's in their nature. I manipulate women all the time--leading a girl out of the club by the sm…
/r/seduction18/07/13 11:05 AM
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What I've told my students who suffer from this, is attach a brick to your standards and start fucking anything...with condoms of course! Fuck the shit out of some land whale for all I care, make her day, and because she's someone you wouldn't normally "date" you'll feel less pressure about fucking up--and you can just fuck. Treat the entire sexual activity as sexual practice. Because that's how you get good at sex; practice. It's really not rocket science. The only way to build sexual confidenc…
/r/seduction06/07/13 11:07 PM
1

OP = Andre from the League
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:33 AM
1

It's anything, It doesn't matter. I think it started out as "Hot Body" in a way that de-humanized women with swat terms (wrong word, but it was meant to adhere to the anti-pedestal movement of the time). You'd have to ask an old school PUA.
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:29 AM
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Physical looks are not nearly as important to women as they are to men. This is dated, I have a friend who teaches at a university who says it's pretty much to do with the advancement of women in the world (she's a Women's Studies prof though so...). Looks play a huge factor in a woman's decision. But they aren't the only factor. It is a terrible attitude and it should never be a crutch, but they do matter.
/r/seduction03/06/13 07:34 PM
1

That's either a rich guy, a john, or a photoshoot.
/r/seduction03/06/13 07:30 PM
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Farmers markets are always gold mines during the summer. I was on a cougar binge for a while last year, and all I can say is thank you farmers. If I see any of you fuckers at a Farmers market and you're closing... I better get some carrots from you. I wouldn't suggest this unless you are above average good looking but hiking on populous trails outside the city (this is key, it's different from bike paths or walking trails inside the city because of the intimacy factor) can be really really bount…
/r/seduction23/05/13 06:53 AM
8

It's like we're speaking French in France, and everyone else is speaking Spanish.
/r/seduction19/05/13 09:40 PM
1

So why did you post this into /r/seduction then? Why not /r/social or /r/boyznight. Why do you think I didn't kiss girls or got their numbers when they CAME to me? You're justifying it through an excuse. Since seddit has become all spiritual and bogus over the last 2 years...do some soul searching. Did you really not get their numbers or make out with them because you chose to? Lots of HB7 and HB8's and you could have easily kissed them, but you didn't... there is something wrong here. Are you f…
/r/seduction19/05/13 09:37 PM
1

Here's the thing, you're still inherently going out to get girls. You're just lying to yourself and tip toeing around the truth. Men do not do this. What you're doing is taking the pressure off and not being results dependent. It sounds great, it sounds like you're putting in work and gaining experience points but really its like anything else, if you're not actually doing it, you're not actually getting better at -it-. So many guys fall down this hole, because for a lot of neckbearded these bab…
/r/seduction19/05/13 08:24 PM
1

I think he's saying that seddit isn't the holy grail. You can find this information anywhere. You for example found it on Men's Health...
/r/seduction13/05/13 06:29 PM
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Be rich Be as fit and as good looking as you can be. Sarge with wing girls or female entourage for social proof Be excellent kisser Short memory
/r/seduction13/05/13 08:39 AM
2

Most girls even the ones dtf aren't programmed to think like this largely due to slut shaming and nature. She's looking at all sexual partners with the same arbitrary set of standards that have been ingrained in her head since birth. It's arbitrary women bullshit.
/r/seduction13/05/13 07:57 AM
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If you look deep in my comments, you'll see a story I have about house sitting and getting caught on the nanny cam. found it:http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/18aj1k/what_is_a_good_first_date_location_activity_and/c8d4o83
/r/seduction13/05/13 04:17 AM
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Be creative and sometimes be honest. 6 years ago I was just starting out with pickup, going to uni, but still living at home. I've done it all. My best advice would be to be creative. 2 things that worked for me: House sitting: I watched peoples (my parents friends) houses for an entire summer while the went on vacation. It was a great way to gain some personal freedom, some money, and a fuckpad. My movie, your place: "I'll dl the movie and bring the popcorn... you provide the theater" Essential…
/r/seduction13/05/13 12:06 AM
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I think this is the wrong way about it. Yes, you need to improve yourself, but there's no point in stopping progress in one area to fix another.
/r/seduction12/05/13 11:56 PM
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Nope, I'm referring to women you want to form a connection with, just like OP was asking for. Women he's had a history with as he stated. second part. It's super weird! That's why you're conversions are so low. It's strange to hear from people out of the blue. That's why one of the most common reactions to something like this is like, "That was weird... some guy from high school...frogma just texted me...". Unless you justify it your chances are incredibly low. If you're looking for something to…
/r/seduction12/05/13 09:15 AM
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You're not though. You're actually worse off if it's out of the blue bullshit. You're abandoning what my french friend calls, future hatched chickens. In person reunions are so much more powerful than a text because women think in justification. I totally get your mindset, and it's one of those tricky things where you don't do what you've been taught because the game has changed. We've all been taught, go for it. Right? Just take a chance. This isn't a cold approach anymore. This is cold product…
/r/seduction12/05/13 08:40 AM
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Yo Rapemeister.
/r/seduction12/05/13 06:33 AM
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Maybe not the advice you're looking for but I'd advise against it if it's out of the blue. If you ran into her, or waved at her from afar but couldn't really talk...that's fine. That's normal and justified in her mind. There are few interpretations from women that come out in your favour when you text her out of the blue. Don't waste your time, there's likely a reason she hasn't been kept close by you all these months--don't go making making one, it has huge backfire potential.
/r/seduction12/05/13 06:31 AM
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This is good advice. Women take note of your living quarters. I once had a student who did quite well out in the field (a bit of a natural really, and I wondered why he needed my help), but the next day when I'd talk to him about how things went, he'd rarely mention he got sex. I had my suspicions, and asked if I could pop over for a second... the guy lived in fucking filth. We brought my maid over (she fucking hated me haha) and helped her clean up his place. The next night he closed without pr…
/r/seduction26/04/13 11:14 PM
1

I am Choir. This is sort of the double edged sort of reddit communities as they grow. I see it all the time in /r/music--where the lowest common denominator rules at large and the actual value of the content decreases as the population increases. Don't get me wrong, LCD stuff isn't all bad, there are still interesting posts here and that's why I still come, but there is increasingly more shit than anything else here and there comes a time when people start going, 'why am I even here?'. I find it…
/r/seduction10/04/13 09:04 AM
2

Are you kidding me man? This subreddit has turned into a spiritualistic self-help grotto largely inhabited by blind people who like leading other blind people. Saying what you're saying is like saying /r/gaming is driven by the appstore and not steam.
/r/seduction09/04/13 08:44 AM
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Analysis: She was looking to fool around, and you came across as either needy or wanting a relationship (especially since she was being so forward, and you taken back by it) and she had no desire for either so she went and looked elsewhere for suitable dick. Two thoughts on keeping the number. It's usually good practice to keep the numbers, you never know if you'll run into someone, or if they call you up out of the blue...but if it makes you unhappy to keep it, and it just pisses you off to thi…
/r/seduction08/04/13 10:40 PM
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You're a pretty shitty friend.
/r/seduction02/04/13 07:46 AM
0

ding ding ding. I like you man. You're the only person who makes sense here.
/r/seduction11/03/13 02:45 AM
5

Captain Buzzkill here. Good First kisses are so fucking money they should be nerfed next version. Bad first kisses are pretty much from death himself, and will likely destroy the relationship. The vast majority of women believe they'll end a relationship on the grounds of a guy being a shitty kisser. This is likely just cosmo bullshit, but I strongly urge each and everyone of you to practice. It's not rocket science, but there is a skill to it, and the better you are it, the better you will be a…
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:04 AM
1

It builds false confidence. Truthfully, I never started with canned lines, though I have used them (to some success I might add). I did however start from very meager beginnings. And in saying that I understand the desire for someone to want to use canned lines as a crutch, but as someone who's been around the block, I feel it's my duty to try and persuade as many men as I can away (even though its disadvantageous for me) from auto-pilot-mode. A lot of my confidence came from the idea of making …
/r/seduction19/02/13 10:08 AM
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Welcome to /r/seduction
/r/seduction18/02/13 09:07 PM
6

Stop using canned shit.
/r/seduction18/02/13 09:05 PM
-3

No.
/r/seduction11/02/13 08:39 PM
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Don't play games. Be a fucking man.
/r/seduction11/02/13 07:33 PM
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Good advice! To add to the multi-venue idea, it feels like you're going on more dates than just one because you're doing more than just one thing. This can actually break down psychological barriers if the girl feels slut shamed for quick hookups.
/r/seduction11/02/13 07:48 AM
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Yeah you really have to have a nicer place. That being said I was younger once too, and as I didn't have a ton of money what I would do was network myself as a responsible house sitter to friends of the family. Before I even got serious about women and being a man (say around 20), I would watch all these fancy houses over the summer--my parents' friends and such while they went globetrotting for months-- and while no parties were thrown, I did have many sexfests. If you don't have a perfect situ…
/r/seduction11/02/13 07:40 AM
2

Too much work. It's sort of a fun long drive game, but it's a bit boring. Personality tests don't get girls wet.
/r/seduction08/02/13 09:28 PM
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Haha thanks. Though the luck is better served for the students--though to be fair it is an all women's bootcamp, and they are all delightful, so who needs luck right? Haha. I feel like we argued some, but I totally feel the passion. I travel all around NA for pickup conferences, bootcamps, and business, if you feel up for it and you live in or around a major city, let me know and we should totally go day-gaming (I'm a day game specialist, though night time/club game is always exciting) together …
/r/seduction03/02/13 09:42 AM
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Fair enough, you can do whatever you want. You're your own person and I respect that. However and I had to do some comment history searching to figure out a good way to explain this, and I think I found it. You seem like a big dota guy. You know a lot, you reference all the best strategies and items and all that jazz I know nothing about. What you're doing with DOTA is what people like me do with pickup. By all means you can enjoy the game (DOTA or pickup or whatever) however you like--but there…
/r/seduction03/02/13 05:45 AM
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Best hint: Make sure you bag your shit. Japanese girls are notorious for forgoing precautions, and as is the case, STI's are incredibly common in Japan. In fact, I can't remember but I think it's one of the few "modern" places in the world where HIV is actually on the rise. Went out there 2 years ago, had a blast. Embrace where ever you are from, and be funny. Just don't 'merica it up. Being the life of a party is universal.
/r/seduction03/02/13 03:50 AM
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Go watch anyone respectable in the pickup and attraction community and see how they do it. They never ask for a phone number. Because it's more powerful for her to be the one to hand it over--to think it's her idea. I was just in Vegas last weekend teaching a private bootcamp alongside one of the worlds most suave mother fuckers. He never says give me ya phone number. I've walked up to girls and made out with them in under a minute. I've also got more sets, pickups, numbers, and women under my b…
/r/seduction01/02/13 08:18 PM
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Never explicitly ask for a number. Dance around it, but never say, 'can I have your number'. It can scare her off--it's weird women's psychology shit. That's why the fill in the blank works in some settings, because you need her to be the one to put forth the information. My favourite thing to do is to either say lets swap contact information (you'll get emails, facebooks, and stuff too but that's also a tell on where you stand and its still a mode of communication) or to just hold my phone up i…
/r/seduction01/02/13 12:02 AM
3

Thank you captain obvious! You might want to jump in on the way I satirized, the word meme too.
/r/seduction27/01/13 09:28 AM
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[conversation going fantastic, make an observation, she laughs and then...]Haha yeah totally, it's like that stupid awkward penguin right now. Haha. You know...SAP. S.A.P. Haha...Why aren't you... The penguin mehmay with the blue background...I'm not a rapist or anything. K...welp have a good one.
/r/seduction27/01/13 04:15 AM
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The jist of this is the only thing anyone should focus on in this entire thread. Why Online dating is so popular though, and why both of our posts will be downvoted, is because it's easy to chat up 1000000 girls and basically harmless, you don't even feel AA or rejection. The problems of course with that is that because it's viewed as so easy, it's over-saturated with competition, any girl worth her hotness is getting a thousand replies a week, even if you're suave as fuck or James Bond, your ch…
/r/seduction25/01/13 11:26 PM
2

If that's what you believe buy a hooker. Enjoy your life to the fullest.
/r/seduction02/01/13 03:42 AM
1

It really is a beautiful place. I'm from Canada and I was 22 then, fresh out of Uni exploring Europe for a year. I kind of know what you're getting at in regards to the mood of the country, though I hope it's more of a germanic misconception but you'd know better than me. But that being said, you can turn that huge hurdle into huge gains. Victory favours the bold. The sheer fact that as you said, 'you don't just greet other people on the street' gave me huge bonus points for walking up to beauti…
/r/seduction30/12/12 07:58 PM
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It depends. I'd advise against it for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. Especially in Switzerland! So many great places to try out day game. But to touch on your first point, everyone has their own reason for needing to use an online service. The biggest reason is probably they are just too busy or are meeting the wrong kind of guy in their typical daily life. But overall, I say if you stick with day game. By the way, one of the most beautiful girls I've ever been with, was from Bern. That ent…
/r/seduction30/12/12 07:36 AM
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It lets her know you're a sexual being, and it's a quick test that lets you know where she stands and where you stand with her. The reason he laid it on thick is because he's trying to wade through the girls that want to take things slow so he can fuck them quickly--typically you don't want to go as direct but this was a flyer he hadn't communicated with in a month, he had nothing to lose. If you're not escalating, you're going to have a really hard time closing. A good tip is to just liken thin…
/r/seduction30/12/12 07:24 AM
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I don't think anyone knows if it will be limiting but you. You had a GF of 2 1/2 years, so it's not impossible. :) What I do think is you should take your story to master pua's and exploit yourself. Pitch the idea of 'if they can help me, they can help anyone' marketing ploy. The bigger dating coaches will jump on this. Instead of paying 3-5k for bootcamps etc, have them fly you out, give you solo one on one help, and let them document it. It might be too much exploitation, it might not be you, …
/r/seduction26/12/12 07:21 PM
2

Here's the real simple version: MAN FUCK WOMAN.
/r/seduction24/12/12 05:00 AM
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tagged as Stage 5 clinger.
/r/seduction19/12/12 04:39 AM
2

"I played it with a girl over dinner and didn't have to worry about coming up with stuff to say the whole 90 minutes we were together. It was a D2, so we already had some level of interaction. It went great with her." Question and answer games are fun, but they are meant to be conversation stop gaps and jumping off points. You're doing it wrong if you ever play games like this for 90 minutes. Do one or two of these if there's a lull in the conversation and you really can't think of anything with…
/r/seduction19/12/12 12:31 AM
1

Good points but nitpicky thingy. Unless she indicates she is not from "here", it is typically bad form to ask the example question (either version). Never assume with women.
/r/seduction16/12/12 04:11 AM
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Bang hot chicks. You never forget, but you can trick your brain into not thinking about her and succumbing to oneitis by becoming infatuated with someone else. You'll always remember those special to you. Feel good about those feelings, hold onto to them and let them fuel you to do bigger (think butts dude, fuck I want me a big butt girl right now) and better things.
/r/seduction14/12/12 06:45 AM
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Depends man, I figure you're coming straight off the Simple Pickup video of last week, and there is some truth to what they're saying, but it really depends on your verbal skills as well as the type of girl. Texting is a great way to hide some of your faults plus there are less ways in which you can screw something up. I'd rec calling up older women, if you have actual phone game, but anything other than that is a bit of a risk. Do it if you feel comfortable with it, but it's not as golden as th…
/r/seduction11/12/12 01:33 AM
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Anyone else instantly think of those idiots that posted Asian guys with white girl pics in every thread on reddit for the longest time? Good job man, love the fact you don't directly ask for her number like a seasoned vet. I'm waiting for the white knights to come here and start crying that you hit on a girl who was seeing someone else. My only critique is you potentially waited a bit too long to text, especially if she's an HB10 (you might have dodged a bullet here, but girls get hit on a lot, …
/r/seduction11/12/12 01:26 AM
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Next time I'm in TO, I will drop you both a line and we can do some day game together if you want. Some of what you're saying is gold, you're really stellar on your feet. One little tidbit for my Canadian chums is this, "After a quick coffee, the game is on". Don't do this anymore. Coffee tends to: Make people a bit more hyper, leaves a bit of discoloration on your teeth, and gives you coffee breath. All things that can hurt you in day game. Stick with water or something palette cleansing like L…
/r/seduction10/12/12 08:35 PM
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Or she's a kind person and feels bad about hurting the feelings of others and doesn't know how to confront difficult situations? Sometimes I feel terrible when I pass girls who I've hit then quit, and it's a bit awkward if they ever they approach me. Not because I'm ashamed of what I did, I like me, I just feel bad for these girls sometimes. No offense but but this was you validating your shit date. Happens to everyone man, but don't mistake a lack of worldly experience and empathy with losing. …
/r/seduction07/12/12 02:09 AM
1

I was taught it meant "Hotbody". As in Somebody, but for pua explanations.
/r/seduction06/12/12 07:56 PM
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It can get up there depending on the girl and the site. That's the issue with online, it takes much more work to create memorability and even then it's merely digital. There are pros and cons to everything, I just personally feel like going to a busy street, doing some day game for 30 minutes gives better results than an entire day of online dating. What you said is true about these women being single and looking. The thing is outside, I'm also exploring an untapped, unapproached market of women…
/r/seduction06/12/12 07:36 AM
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A few years ago, still kind of fresh in pua journey, I really spent a lot of time casting nets across a few online dating sites. The thinking was, I could get a lot of dates with minimal effort, and what I learned is, it is easier but not in that sense. You end up having to put in far too much work but it is incredibly easy. Besides putting yourself out there on the internetz, there's really nothing that difficult for you as an individual. If you want mad pussy (what I was striving for back then…
/r/seduction06/12/12 05:04 AM
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Be hot.
/r/seduction03/12/12 06:29 AM
1

Leagues exist. Though there are Jackie Robinson's that every so often break those barriers. My go to example is always Geoffrey Arend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Arend He's not particularly attractive (some might even say meaner things), and he's not richer, more successful or more famous than his wife Christina Hendricks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Hendricks
/r/seduction23/11/12 08:20 PM
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The ol' shotgun approach lol.
/r/seduction23/11/12 08:15 PM
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Connecting on a deeper level is much more costly.
/r/seduction21/11/12 01:26 AM
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lol, if you remember the name of it, I'd give it a read mostly for laughs.
/r/seduction21/11/12 01:04 AM
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You are money. Money is a representation of your time. At the end of the day it's part of the formula. The thing is, I don't care either way. I only care about my happiness. When you get past the idea of other peoples desires, it's totally freeing.
/r/seduction21/11/12 01:04 AM
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I've actually given it some deep introspective thought and constantly question why I just don't do hookers. But then I realize that the price point isn't as good here in Canada and I just don't ever want to pay for it as I actually honestly love the challenge of pickup. It really is a game to me, and I enjoy playing it. It would feel like I gamesharked the fuck out of the game if I just paid for it, and then it would get boring like all the games I used to gameshark as a kid.
/r/seduction20/11/12 11:05 PM
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"I''m in my early 30's, I'm not naive enough to think strippers actually want me, but they charmed me none the less" I have a friend I sometime wing with, who's pre-sarging sessions always include a trip to the stripbar for a confidence boost. I assume he knows they just want his money (though, he has banged a few--though I'm not sure if money was involved) but he lies to himself and creates a huge ego boost. Maybe an idea for some guys out there who are feeling down before they go out. The fals…
/r/seduction20/11/12 11:01 PM
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rofl do you hang out at Bar Neon in Toronto? I was there this weekend, and a guy I met actually tried this word for word. Was the fucking funniest thing I've seen in pickup in a while. If it's you PM me!
/r/seduction20/11/12 06:53 AM
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While I think it's noble, I think 'ejecting' or 'pulling the chute' is a really redundant endevour at the bar. I understand AA, everyone has it, but if you're at a bar for pickup, you should be practicing pickup. I see far too many guys trying this, starting a conversation, and just pulling the chord, despite the fact that in many cases the girl would actually be willing to continue the conversation. The whole point of picking up women is picking up women. If you have really bad AA, try this on …
/r/seduction20/11/12 06:41 AM
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Most of the Keys to the VIP were staged eh? People would know the locations prior, and have their winggirls/friends populate the club and I wouldn't doubt there was more of that going on from a tv side too. Still though, it's decent stuff, it's the lowest common denominator of game (the two and a half men, if you will) where you can call it trash like sunn does, but every once in a while there are some really apt observations, and points one should really take note of. Pretty entertaining stuff …
/r/seduction15/11/12 07:44 PM
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I think the moments of true wisdom are sadly few and far between for Wygant now. He's become a product of the hype machine, I mean look at his most recent newsletter (it's funny that you mention the new kids still read Brunson, I read a lot of the legends' of game works still haha), he guarantees getting invited to a stranger's thanksgiving dinner in 5 minutes all in the same exact way they advertise late night promos on tv. "but as far as i know only cajun and I actually understand the importan…
/r/seduction15/11/12 07:37 PM
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Big James Marshall fan.
/r/seduction15/11/12 07:05 PM
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I'm sure there is new content there, but a lot of the big names that pop out on the list like Cajun and Wygant have either lost it, are dated or just never evolved. Wygant for example is a terrific speaker, I love his energy and passion (he's allegedly the inspiration for "Hitch") but the guys game is pretty weak. I'm not sure if its because he's getting older or what, but there are people doing things Wygant can't comprehend. Just for the record, I've listened to him speak at a conference, and …
/r/seduction15/11/12 10:10 AM
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totally yeah. It's an example of pre-selection. Women find men more attractive when a woman is with them.
/r/seduction14/11/12 01:32 AM
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Agree with everything until... "if you haven't heard from her in awhile (like three weeks), it's okay to send a brief message to pop yourself back into her awareness (in case her situation has changed and she's more receptive now)." Don't even do that. The only time I ever give her a second chance is if our paths cross. Otherwise it just comes off as a hail mary. storytime! A girl flaked on me about 3 months prior after a street pickup. I thought we hit it off rather well, ended it with a makeou…
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:29 PM
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I can get really technical but basically, a slight insult. The reason you shouldn't do it goes back to being understood and how you play it off. You can collapse by negging via text. Some people will say never neg regardless, but I think it's necessary. I neg once in a while irl (guys I ran with, were deeply entrenched in pickup during its mystery years, and they'd do it mechanically, which I wouldn't recommend because you come off as an ass, but it still is a powerful weapon).
/r/seduction12/11/12 10:13 PM
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This is really good advice. When I first started I didn't understand that text game really wasn't game, it was just logistics central. Attraction isn't built online or over texts, get in, get out. A few things I'd suggest from experience: Write something, condense it to its simplest form, then text it. The less words the less chances you have to fuck something up and the more it becomes obviously understood. Don't text for the sake of texting, always have a purpose. Never neg.
/r/seduction12/11/12 08:36 PM
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Ahh fair enough, again that doesn't have to be the goal, you can just be establishing value within the room. I do it all the time I go into any gathering, and doing this creates a bit of a lyons method where you can ignore a target, socialize with everyone else and drive her fucking crazy and self-conscious. "That girl? Really? She's gross!" or it makes a classy opener, "Save me from that gold digger!". The key to all of this is... She's a girl and she approached you. She's likely never been rej…
/r/seduction09/11/12 08:19 PM
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What investment? You did absolutely nothing. That's precisely the point of saying no with a shit test. You're not giving up anything. You're gaining value by not buying her shit. This is game 101. FUCK, this is in the fucking sidebar and I'm getting downvoted.
/r/seduction09/11/12 07:23 PM
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Not bad, I've said variations of this before and it works quite well. One thing I'd do differently is remove the question. Make it a statement, don't give her the option. "Okay, but the first drinks on you", grab her hand and lead her to the bar. (Fewer girls will deny, because there's a cultural/socio predisposition--they think they have to to either be polite or just a woman) That's the thing about pickup, you always need to lead. pro tip: look her over, then loudly say, "no thanks", and walk …
/r/seduction09/11/12 09:40 AM
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Women think they are special (princess syndrome). When you take that away from them (don't over do it) by essentially telling them they aren't memorable you run the risk of an early uphill climb. Most girls will take it negatively but perhaps won't show it, but it factors in to her tally for you. Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
/r/seduction05/11/12 08:36 PM
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uptokes kinda. Observational humour = good "lets hangout this week" = kinda The problem here is you're playing direct but coming across as indirect--and her answer might not include that second sentence. Direct/Indirect game is powerful shit, but it only works in person. As long as you can ensure you don't come off as cocky the best thing would be to set an actual date and time. This is a great early indicator of her interest. Also-- depending on your intentions (or what you want her to perceive…
/r/seduction23/10/12 07:10 PM
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Acknowledge the fact you're using canned lines but then quickly change the subject--it doesn't matter what you say, what matters is carrying the momentum from the initial communication to something more stable. Then stop using shit openers. Actually here's a pro tip, if you see anything on here (or anywhere on the internet for that matter), and you plan on doing it, know going into it, because of the size of the community, chances are it'll either be expired or have a very limited shelf life; th…
/r/seduction20/10/12 01:58 AM
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Kino is important. But when you do it and how much of it you do is situational and there are varying degrees of application. I'm Canadian, I also pull women in Toronto all the time on business trips, and I recognize some of the modern frigidity you've encountered and lack of touching--it's not 'normal' and thus we try and wander away from it, and that's fine. Lots of relationships start with minimal or maybe even no kino. The thing about Kino is, it's like gasoline to the love fire, it escalates…
/r/seduction10/10/12 12:36 AM
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A busy downtown section of my city in the morning right before a presentation I had haha; coffee shop, breakfast joint patio, and train station. One huge signifier was my TOI (think of it like time on ice stat for hockey but time on individual!) 6 approaches took me under an hour. It wasn't necessarily a matter of me being picky, it was just that that my sample size was more limited, and the conversations weren't lasting because of the awkwardness. Don't get me wrong, going in and out, swat styl…
/r/seduction05/10/12 06:35 PM
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Sorry mate. I feel you and I apologize I came off a bit harsh and I didn't mean it to be off-putting. I have no desire to teach anyone but myself.
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:35 PM
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You're spot on. This isn't an opener. This is marshmallows, you know... break glass in case of emergency. I tried it out it out this morning and the material completely bombed. I managed to save a few, but I felt like the line did more harm than good. Analysis from 6 early morning approaches: Too much awkward, I received a that's nice, and a what? Death sentences. Too slow, or poor projection of voice. The story is soo long for an opener, that I ended up trying to talk faster during approach 3. …
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:29 PM
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Can I ask for credentials? The fact that you believe in lines over observational openers makes me believe you have really really terrible game and are just sort of starting out. Ask anyone with a strong attraction background like say a legit pua... and women respond better to approaches that seem meant to be rather than forced. One day you'll figure it out though. :)
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:03 PM
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Few things: Women like story tellers. If you can say something interesting with conviction they will be attracted to you. So nice job. I think your plan of attack is backwards. But then again you've tested it and I have not. I think you should try sitting down next to a girl, introducing yourself, and then trying it as a bit of a last resort. The reason I say this is... boxed lines are okay for beginners, for people who need a hand at getting started but in reality they are terrible crutches tha…
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:33 AM
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Bars and Clubs are great for people who: Can't keep a real conversation going, are Hotter than the average bear, have advanced kino skills, or are terrific dancers. Play to your strengths. If you're having trouble keeping girls interested in what you're saying but are a very good looking dude, the louder the place the better. Eventually you'll want to actually work on your conversational skills but playing in an environment that you excel in is not a bad thing. It's like this, the Yankees are wi…
/r/seduction20/09/12 08:09 PM
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FUCK YA. Read my history on this sub-reddit, I've been very outspoken lately about the denegration of seddit and how they've traded in their pua dildos for inner feelings of warmth. That being said, you'll never actually find what you're looking for, because of the demographic of reddit, and seddit in general. What you're specifically looking for is a more advanced circle. Those kind of things are rare on the internet these days (there used to be some great dedicated forums, but they too have fa…
/r/seduction18/09/12 08:16 PM
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This is why women have their bitch shields on kill. Go to a mall and you'll see highschool/University kids doing this like there's no tomorrow. And they think just because they said "I'm the Captain of Jajonga jong" to a girl, they are correcting inherent problems with their game but their not they are just pissing off women. This is gimmicky as fuck and I strongly advise against it. Want a better idea, just play this game, with friends without the stupid line shit--please don't do the pushup th…
/r/seduction10/09/12 10:32 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't see where this girl wanted a serious relationship like op is insinuating with this whole premise? I'm sorry but there is waaaaay to much reading between the lines here. Stop trying to decipher every little thing women do. This reminds me of when guys count hairflips and shit to determine attraction. It's fucking bonkers. Her telling you she can't give you her full attention might just mean she's on her fucking period, stressed out, a family member died--you don't fu…
/r/seduction07/09/12 08:45 AM
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You make some valid points, but this subreddit has way more flaws. I think there is some great info, but it's surrounded by A LOT of bullshit. But I agree, there isn't that real call to action. There isn't proof of expertise, and there isn't a lot of interesting insights coming out of it. Want to create a new subreddit?
/r/seduction05/09/12 11:37 PM
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The problem with seddit, is that the majority of people here are exactly what you are, and are therein giving advice to other people struggling in the land of seduction. There's very little proof of expertise and on top of that for every great bit of information I read, there's bound to be 30 or so misconstrued or misrepresented theories or anecdotal conclusions being brandied about like fact and the sheep are following. It's also over the past year because of the population demographics it has …
/r/seduction05/09/12 11:32 PM
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No worries. Part of my frustration is this widespread shift from pick up artistry to what could best be described as "self-help". The shift itself was needed; 'game' evolved far past parlour tricks and rehearsed material, and self improvement is something along the way that you must endure. But far too many people have shot waaaaaaay past the mark and forgotten what this is about. And I believe your post was a great example of that. Again, nice story, I'm glad you did that, but so fucking what? …
/r/seduction01/09/12 03:53 AM
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Interesting story, but this has nothing to do with seduction unless you want to go so far as to talking to people is required for seduction. No offense, but this subreddit is turning more into "How to cope with people outside of your parents basement" more and more. I understand the perils of AA, but stories about talking to random people isn't helping anyone. Wow you opened a guy with very little social value (he's homeless, and psychologically it's easier to communicate with him--I'm not sayin…
/r/seduction31/08/12 10:25 PM
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I know that feel. Most of the times it happens though, is because I wasn't committed to going out in the first place; 'some dumb dinner'. You have to really push yourself to get the results that will make the night worthwhile and maintain a positive outlook.
/r/seduction30/08/12 06:05 PM
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Good point. You have to camo it up, and you look like a guy trying to get women if you're at a bar empty handed--plus it can make you look cheap. You don't have to drink booze, but you should have something whether that be a pop, bloomin' onion, or dessert (little side note here, nobody ever orders desserts at bars, probably because most bar food isn't that great, just by ordering it [chocolate things are the best bet], you'll catch the eye of hungry women, and when you see them drooling, it's a…
/r/seduction30/08/12 06:01 PM
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Just like with women, you have to be an excellent reader of people to do this. I could see that jokey-cocky attitude back-firing in a lot of scenarios. What I see is you meshed well with your boss, which is important for a healthy work relationship.
/r/seduction22/08/12 06:06 PM
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It's just your body coming out of a coma man. Think of it, you've been "alive" all these years and that was your first ever approach. It doesn't necessarily ever get easier, you're heart will still race, you'll have butterflies in your stomach, and always be plagued by AA, but as you do this more and more, you'll learn how to hide it. I'm not a natural, but I have been doing this a while now, and my BPM always raises every time I take that first step towards a girl. Keep doing it, and keep patti…
/r/seduction12/08/12 08:45 AM
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You were a results, in this case, sex driven bitch, that cried because your dick wasn't sucked because you were a terrible date. I'm guessing because she was introduced by a friend, you have the respect for your friend to not just hit it and quit it as it would then look bad upon him, so in that case you were open to the possibility of making this more and that's likely what she was testing you for as well; if you could be more, and if you could be a part of her social circle. You just proved, t…
/r/seduction11/08/12 08:17 AM
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With 1, I get the idea she doesn't like you at all, and could never just put you down. 3, you really have to dig down and think if she had as much of a connection with you as you her, because otherwise it could be a bit creepy if you point it out. It might be better to just chat her up, and let her be the one to notice. It gives you that pimp (I see a lot of women, and have lots of interesting connections) vibe. Plus, if she mentions it, you could be like... "What?! You're Bar Girl? (Really Ted …
/r/seduction05/08/12 08:00 PM
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Daygame is for noobs with courage, and masters with courage. It's the ultimate playing field really, and the odds are stacked in your favour if you're willing to take the plunge. It's very rewarding and can make the boring and mundane very pleasant and exciting.
/r/seduction04/08/12 07:54 PM
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Actually write each message. Far too many people do the shotgun approach or something so simple and boring and it doesn't get that great of results.
/r/seduction04/08/12 07:50 PM
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Depends on their face-- I haven't been with a really fat girl ever, but I've often found myself thinking, some weight loss, and she'd be very pretty. It's a bit shallow, but, sometimes it's smart to hit a potential hottie up on the ground floor before she skyrockets to floor, 8,9, or even 10.
/r/seduction26/07/12 08:29 PM
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Yes. I am much more happy. No matter how shitty I feel, and I have felt shitty for some of the things I've done during my pickup journey and how some things ended up, but... I happily take it, because there was no low, like the low I was at being that miserably lonely kid no one even knew existed. If you were really at the bottom of the mountain, you have to remember that moment so when you climb it, you never forget where you came from.
/r/seduction18/07/12 07:44 PM
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It's important for girls, but it's also important to get and retain the girls. Having your shit together is important for logistics. Any guy living at home can tell you that. Having nice things, good communication skills, and the income to do what you want for dates and getaways are huge. I want to share something. 5 years ago, I'd look at some of the guys in the gym who would be gawked at by all the beautiful sweaty women, especially the personal trainers, and just really fit guys and be like "…
/r/seduction17/07/12 11:18 PM
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There was a BBC documentary about pickup, and there was one guy who reminds me of you and your story. He was basically homeless, and he spent all of his welfare on the clubs to score women. It was very sad. I'm not saying you're that low, but that isn't the high life.
/r/seduction17/07/12 11:01 PM
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Gotta disagree. When I was working in Silicon Valley, gold digging sluts were throwing themselves at any chump with money--the guy I worked across from an excellent software engineer, looked like a obese bucked tooth rat who had very little social skills, but was making 6 figures and had a 2 million dollar house, and after 1 week at a match making service, entered into what would become " a serious relationship" with a solid 9. If you have your shit together (IE tons of money) girls will be draw…
/r/seduction17/07/12 10:58 PM
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GUHHHHHH GUHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHH HEAD HURT. The reason Day Game is so easy is because girls don't expect to be approached at this time. It's also somehow easier for them to see through the bullshit (maybe it has to do with the light, maybe it's that their not drunk or tired, but it's something--and this is why I wouldn't rec doing anything from your template. If you want to do that shit, you'll have better odds at night in a bar or club but I still don't recommend it). Be yourself. See a girl you'd…
/r/seduction12/07/12 06:38 PM
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I know, I just made an interesting aside... That's why I started my second paragraph the way I did...
/r/seduction11/07/12 08:04 PM
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Haha, and I really do feel bad, but that is part of the plan. It's a bit of psychological move that I had done before where you build attraction as quickly as possible, then at a plateau where you've earned her trust and she finds you attractive, you instantly switch targets. You're technically supposed to do this girl with thing, other girl, girl with thing, but I changed it up a bit. This builds up her competitive edge, and makes her wonder what just happened and she becomes very jealous. The …
/r/seduction11/07/12 06:27 PM
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Haha, funny story, when I first started this journey, I would study up on all the PUA lingo, dancing monkey is if I remember, a high energy ugly guy. That couldn't be more opposite. In terms of what you mean. Picking up women is what I do. I love it. I don't find it to be a devalued move (maybe in some really prudish circles) and as such it's not degrading for someone to ask me to 'dance'--plus as I said in my head I was calculating best results. A birds gotta fly, a fish gotta swim, so why can'…
/r/seduction11/07/12 06:20 PM
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I steal hats, hearts, and farts.
/r/seduction11/07/12 07:16 AM
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No I kind of agree, and that's why I said I should have stuck with her instead of the other girl (I hooked up with Miss Jealous for another 4 months quite frequently and for what I wanted that would suffice though), but two things that stopped me, one I was already 'intimate' with Miss Jealous, and the second, I had created the plan, and wanted to see it through just to see if it worked. My reasoning was, if it didn't and Miss jealous' attitude continued, I could have easily went back to return …
/r/seduction11/07/12 05:58 AM
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This shit happened to me with a girl I was seeing when we came across another girl I was seeing, and she kind of put 2 and 2 together and realized I was "courting" (such a funny word) more than one woman. She wanted me to show me "my skill in action", and despite reminding her, I picked her up not 3 weeks before, she flat out demanded I show her my skills. So I nodded, and started walking around the festival we were at, I started talking with a pretty girl with a cowboy hat (in retrospect, I sho…
/r/seduction11/07/12 05:26 AM
1

Have to agree here--there is a bit of a charm to being silly and having fun, but such games, especially over text lose that rather quickly, especially if it's non contextual. I think it's an easy text opener but don't use it in your actual investment portfolio, start it, but then quickly pivot, which is just basic pickup theory; Say anything, then pivot quickly.
/r/seduction11/07/12 05:16 AM
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You're a confident sexual woman, there is nothing to frown upon. Be proud of your sexuality, if you are Canadian hook up with FartuckyFartbandit for some smoothies this summer, be proud of the person you've become and where you are headed--and most of all just keep doing what you're doing girl, you'll figure it out.
/r/seduction09/07/12 11:44 PM
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It all depends on what you want. I hear the arguments against casual sex en-masse all the time, and how I'm seeking inner validation, and deep down that could be true, but honestly, that lifestyle suits me. I went from one extreme to the other, and that probably isn't healthy but all I truly want is sex from these women; I don't want that fairy tale relationship that I wanted 5-6 years ago, I want to meet new people and go on many exciting adventures. Fuck women is my motto (notice how it works …
/r/seduction09/07/12 11:32 PM
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Baby steps. Challenge yourself at an acceptable pace, and do it even if it's mechanical and when it feels terrible, try it once more, if you don't think you're improving or if it's just not you or for you, stop. Like most guys here who are not very outgoing, maybe even shy or recluse the first time I tried to come out of my shell, I sounded so mechanical, and I actually felt so ashamed and embarrassed but then two days, later I did it again, and noticed an improvement and that was enough to moti…
/r/seduction07/07/12 10:23 PM
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You need to start of with stupid questions, favourite colour? and where's the one place you want to travel? And then consistently escalate until you are asking really sexual questions. At least that's my experience. If you create a bit of ground work and build it up, it makes a huge difference so they know you're just playing the game.
/r/seduction07/07/12 10:19 PM
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Great answer, we're not all Ryan Gosling dopplegangers. But remember it's also dependent on a few other factors beside yourself: how life has recently gone (psych thresh; heartbreaks, work, school, anything that could influence 'her feel') how horny she is if she's done it in the past Knowing that, and then knowing what you're looking for... you can actually frame questions in the 'question game' in an almost checklist like manner to figure out who'd be the ideal target to spend time with that n…
/r/seduction29/06/12 06:53 PM
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He's doing quite well for himself too. Way to go Andy.
/r/seduction28/06/12 12:45 AM
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Great points but one little bit of a nitpick: This might come off wrong, but whatever you do, don't come off a little gay. In some situations it's fine, but remember this is your place of work, and unless you are the boss, other people hold the power to empower AND discriminate. There are people in this world with prejudice, and it's those we don't know about that stay hidden we should be most afraid of. Game smartly my friend, and don't hurt yourself in other ventures because of women.
/r/seduction22/06/12 05:30 PM
2

if only Holden knew.
/r/seduction18/06/12 05:04 PM
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Really? I could have swore he just said drinking kept him from remembering his fun. And no, some of us are aware of how fun in terms of women can be had. There's nothing too far about wanting to come off suave rather than smashed. Too many people take that same approach you have, but there's a line between fun and just ridiculousness, and if as the person I was responding to mentioned, he can't even remember what that was, well then you have a fundamental problem with your game.
/r/seduction18/06/12 05:03 PM
-4

"just suck at remembering what it was that we did exactly. Especially when intoxicated." Don't drink then. If you're serious about pickup, keep a clear mind, you don't drink at work right? Well then why should you be getting drunk when you're workin' son?
/r/seduction18/06/12 04:19 AM
4

About a month ago I tried to kiss-close in 60 seconds (you've probably seen videos of like Adam Lyons doing it, and I wanted to give it a go) I'd say out of the 6 girls I tried it on (it's so hard haha, and probably opened close to 40 girls in those 2 hours to find the right vibes), 3 were just not interested and you could tell 1 was a bit perturbed. It happens, but what I didn't have that the OP has, is sound investment over time, just being around a girl for some time, having conversation, mak…
/r/seduction15/06/12 04:11 PM
2

Great job. Don't forget where you came from, those feelings you had to start your journey, mean something, very few people start at the very bottom where they can't even talk to girls, but most of the very best seem to know that place very well--and I think it's because (we--I was the same as you with girls, but I should clarify while I have success I am not of the very best) never want to go back to what we were before. You're well on your way, good sir, congrats but just remember it's a long c…
/r/seduction15/06/12 03:45 AM
5

You don't want to provoke her, trust me haha, I've said some things I probably shouldn't have and it just made the situation worse. You have to make it clear that this is the end, but you have to do it in a respectful way--plus you never burn bridges, maybe one day she gets pills and you need a place to put your dick for the night.
/r/seduction12/06/12 04:44 AM
2

I will keep note of that, I actually have wondered about that because I've done it before. Thanks for pointing that out.
/r/seduction12/06/12 01:20 AM
25

Don't let one bad egg ruin your experience. I go through phases, and have had some lovely older women. Crazy can come in all forms.
/r/seduction11/06/12 10:30 PM
164

From my experience sometimes ignoring is the worst thing you can do with crazy women if it doesn't start making any traction tell her "How you are acting is worrisome, and not right. I enjoyed our time together, but the way you've acted this past while has totally turned me off of you. I wish you the best, please do not call or text me anymore, goodbye." Usually being upfront and truthful will solve this problem. She might yell or scream at you, and call you names, but she'll actually get the me…
/r/seduction11/06/12 10:28 PM
0

Some women can't stand the way it looks nor the way it feels when it's brushed up on their skin. But if you like it, and it makes you feel good, that's all that matters.
/r/seduction10/06/12 11:18 PM
1

Don't do the simple pickup stuff man. Especially if you're just by yourself. Just be genuine in your approaches. If you're looking for fun and you enjoy saying funny things, try an open mic night at a comedy club--where there are usually girls in the audience or waitrressing and if you see any laughing at your jokes you can chat them up afterwards. Also if you want out of your relationship, just get out.
/r/seduction09/06/12 07:32 PM
6

So true, you have to make her invest in you, and connecting on an emotional level, by talking about your childhoods is a great method for her to do so. Piston's method works, he'll get dates from it, but the conversion rate won't be as solid. Though it does come with the advantage of not exposing any glaring weaknesses in game you might have (for example if you're a poor conversationalist or say you know nothing about ballet but she's a ballet dancer, going in and out really hides that which bet…
/r/seduction08/06/12 11:43 PM
1

I agree with the sentiment, but theory (especially the psychological and biological, and even social stuff) IS important to study and isn't bullshit. It won't on it's own get you any girls, as action (your sentiment) is what will actually do that, but don't knock the preparation and understanding of your dedication. Understanding of the deeper issues and problems will only make you better for when you do take action. There's a time and a place for it, and you're right, it's stupid to talk shop, …
/r/seduction08/06/12 07:07 PM
5

You are going to be rippppppped; that's a lot of weight lifting. I think being sexy as possible is a good thing in seduction but don't forget those mental weights. Read some philosophy (and not just about sex or weight lifting), study up on what you believe so you come across as passionate as you really are when you speak to people, and just knowing things (without coming across as arrogant or petty) will be equally sexy paired with those muscles.
/r/seduction06/06/12 05:36 PM
3

Be so weary of [3] there have been times when I try to do callbacks, and because of the type of people I am dealing with, the jokes fall completely flat (it's not because they aren't engaged or the joke wasn't a home run the first time, it's because they are too stupid to remember something that happened 30 minutes before) which in turn acts as a confidence drain (and if other people are there they can be like WTF is this guy talking about?). SO just be careful.
/r/seduction04/06/12 02:53 AM
3

Some great dialogue going on here.
/r/seduction02/06/12 07:35 PM
1

I thought this was Seddit... where's the alpha advice? Lying, and not saying anything seem to be the most welcome advice here but... I can't help but think why not both? Mid-fuck, as soon as OP has got her really enjoying it (hopefully by saying something), to stop and sarcastically say, "Do you like it? Pretty good for the first time eh?... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" then immediately demonstrate some sort of intermediate sex skill so she doesn't actually wonder (just porn) if you were being truthful. If s…
/r/seduction02/06/12 07:21 PM
3

She probably told her friends man. But you told the internet, so it's even haha. Your point about sex being culturally important is spot on, too many people are driven by sex rather than driven by happiness. Keep doing your thing man.
/r/seduction02/06/12 07:06 PM
3

I love solving mysteries! Inspecta' FartuckyFartbandit on the case!
/r/seduction02/06/12 06:59 PM
1

To a degree-- but it adds value, and it's relatively easy to do which is why you should do it because any little bit helps. Also, don't think that guy didn't put thought into his clothes. He really sounds like he's just being himself (rather than playing an angle) but it wouldn't surprise me if his style was intentional-- also ask yourself, did the grungy clothes fit right? I bet they did, as the OP says fit is very important. Just remember that fashion isn't just jackets and jeans-- and don't f…
/r/seduction30/05/12 07:25 PM
2

A full body picture would be much more helpful. But honestly, you're in seduction man, not MFA, and I know style is important but so is confidence (if not 10x as much) and you look quite confident, and you have to be to wear that dorky necklace haha (it's so you, and I could see it being a nice little accessory in terms of pickup) when you are confident you can pull off anything. On that front though, I'd say you're not doing awful but you could probably find better fitting shirts.
/r/seduction30/05/12 07:13 PM
3

Nice homie, don't stop now though. Keep working hard and learning lots.
/r/seduction28/05/12 03:48 AM
11

I think the gym is a shitty place to meet girls you are going to have sex with. Because of the nature of the gym, it's kind of like starting up an office romance, or fucking a roommate. It has the potential to get really messy. Bottom line, don't shit where you eat. Also, and I'm sure people here have picked up women at the gym here, but a lot of girls have their bitch guard on high, because they already feel like everyone's gawking at them. I think Grocery stores are great though. So many ways …
/r/seduction28/05/12 01:29 AM
2

Think what you want man, I'm not your boss. I'm just speaking from experience and what I believe is the best route to travel. I'm telling him to not be so short sighted. I'm not telling him to be friendzoned. Have you ever had a quick hookup in a cabin/lakehouse inhabited by lots of people, most of which are girls? I have. And it's messy. Not to mention by not being outcome dependent, this guys going to have a fantastic weekend and send off great vibes to the point where there will be women thro…
/r/seduction26/05/12 10:42 PM
18

It's girls like you that I hate the most haha and spurred me on to become a heartless fuck machine. I get that you're trying to find someone with true intentions, but your actions push away those who genuinely do like you because they read your coldness as disinterest and they move on never knowing what could have been.
/r/seduction26/05/12 07:07 PM
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I am going to say something that blows your mind. Don't fuck for the entire weekend. Even if a girl throws her vagina at your dick--dip, dodge, dive... dodge... and that other one... Forcing yourself not to fuck is going to do 2 BIG things for you. It's going to allow you to be a fun and interesting person without the heavy weight of 'running game' which is just going to make you fucking catnip (so pussynip) to all the girls there. It's also going to send a stronger message to EVERY girl on that…
/r/seduction26/05/12 06:02 PM
3

puacurveball runs a tight ship. But I don't know if that ships for everyone as it's really hard to maintain and I was never one to really get into google calendars and such, I am much too spontaneous. I think what it means though, is you've built up strong rapport with multiple girls and because their caught up in your web, you can enjoy them whenever you like. I have a 'bullpen', which I suppose is different from a rotation in that I just play whichever has a hot hand is interesting and availab…
/r/seduction25/05/12 11:42 PM
1

Is it the Glover book? There seems to be a few books with the same title.
/r/seduction25/05/12 06:54 PM
5

OH totally, it depends on the situation, but again it's really funny.
/r/seduction25/05/12 02:44 AM
58

I like to have fun, so if it's ever said to me and I don't mind being loud (has to be the right situation), I say very loudly "GOT A GIRL WITH A BOYFRIEND HERE!" and just walk away. I think it's a fucking riot, it embarrasses her, and it gives all the other dudes a heads up.
/r/seduction24/05/12 11:59 PM
5

or ask what his name is.
/r/seduction24/05/12 11:55 PM
5

I'm not sure what I believe. When you consider the fact you'd have to go through body guards, pr people, paparazzi...all on top of friends and the fact that she's very pretty and very high value, a lot of guys would get extreme AA and just say fuck it. But she's so damn hot, I can't believe it.
/r/seduction24/05/12 06:27 PM
43

go on....
/r/seduction23/05/12 03:50 AM
1

Thanks bro. Ass hair is mad funny too.
/r/seduction20/05/12 08:03 PM
2

If it's not you (feel free to PM some sexy pics girl!) then what I find to be the real issue is, you're never in the right moment... I find a lot of my openers happen because of magic situations--and I don't mean magic tricks like the old days of PUA. Situational openers are amazing, their raw, in the moment, and authentic (rather than just using a line or being boring). My best advice for women such as yourself is to unintentionally create stupid events around you that just scream for a guy to …
/r/seduction20/05/12 03:59 AM
2

It's tricky, you want her to invest in you but you want to do it in a fun and interesting way. Getting to know people is just about questions and answers, but it's not all verbal, and it's not all by the journalism book--just try and get a flow to where your question bombardment is hidden behind delightful conversation... and in case you are wondering how to do that, just build off what she is saying. If you ask her about what school she went to and she tells you, build off of that with a commen…
/r/seduction20/05/12 03:51 AM
3

Don't get a permanent roommate, just airbnb a room or something, and offer each of your guests drunk tours and adventures. That way you can have the best of both worlds, and meet really cool people from other 'worlds'.
/r/seduction18/05/12 05:46 PM
3

You're owning that shit, I love the confidence. This might be inappropriate but have you ever f-closed because of your condition? Perhaps it's evil, but I could see your glaring weakness as being your biggest strength in pickup--there are a lot of women who'd look past your confidence and swagger and merely look at the chair, feel terrible, and pity fuck the shit out of you--I'm not saying it's right or they should pity you but I'd love to hear your story.
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:27 PM
2

Intelligence in this sense is not real and a non-issue. What women find attractive are strong conversationalists. Someone who can talk about things they find interesting, with passion and expertise and involve her in the conversation. It isn't so much about what you're talking as much as it is about how you're saying it. I can talk about farts and be saying nothing, but if I say it with conviction, she's interested. A lot of Alpha's or Naturals are fucking idiots, like you'd never want to ask th…
/r/seduction15/05/12 10:52 PM
15

For fuck sakes world make up your mind, I could have just swore I read something on here about how girls just want an average sized penis, because big dicks hurt. MAKE UP YOUR MIND.
/r/seduction15/05/12 10:46 PM
4

I don't know if it's that extreme, but everyone has their own likes. Just bone what makes you happy.
/r/seduction15/05/12 10:03 PM
3

If you wouldn't mind being a bit more open, would you mind divulging how many other girls you were with in that time frame (from meeting her to now). I encountered something similarly but I soon realized, it wasn't so much true feelings as it was regret for losing a strong reliever from my bullpen, and the moment she was replaced with another nice closer, I was all better. I know everyone is different, but I'd be really curious to know.
/r/seduction14/05/12 11:26 PM
0

I would have called the shit out of you. Thanks for the report!
/r/seduction14/05/12 02:06 AM
1

To be honest, I don't have a good grasp on the details either, and I normally do--everything is just so foggy and that's what's making this such a difficult decision.
/r/seduction12/05/12 07:36 PM
2

The reason I'd consider going back... and when I write it down it seems stupid and naive but I just didn't understand why someone would come back if you expressed you did not want that kind of relationship--and I figured this was her way of feeling things out because she's always been slow in developing her relationships. I absolutely love your response on why girls do this though.
/r/seduction12/05/12 07:04 PM
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