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Because the media has brainwashed people into thinking men showing affection to other men makes them gay.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 01:45 PM
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I've lost my mission. My mission was originally to complete my PhD so I could marry the woman I loved and build a life with her. Right before I finished my PhD, the woman I loved and grew up with cheated on me. I kicked her to the curb. Now I'm successful but not happy. I have no mission. I want to write a fantasy novel and I'm working towards that. But none of it makes me happy. I feel no joy. I'm tired all the time. I'm working on my retirement too. It will be great some day. I am saving to tr…
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 08:36 PM
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I'm like you except I still get depressed almost every day, and I'm suicidal at least once a week. I own a house, new car, great job, run a business on the side, have hobbies. But nothing is fun. I rarely ever experience positive emotions. I'm always tired. I'd be even more tired with a woman in my life. I don't even find women attractive anymore. How do you enjoy life? I just can't do it these days.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 06:51 PM
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Fuck that. I'm like you. I have my PhD and I own a house. I'm relatively wealthy for my age (late 20s). I'm also short at 5'5. I don't even get second glances from women. I am that much of a beta. I might have all the resources, but my genes are so bad women want nothing to do with me. And it's a blessing. Women will suck you dry. Your research will suffer. Create your kingdom. Build your castle and dig a moat. You don't need women.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 06:31 PM
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This is dangerous thinking and invite you to stop sharing this opinion in a sub where men are hurting and possibly depressed. Source: Am therapist. Helped many beta men understand that their natural male inclinations are not something to be ashamed of, and to gain insight into why their relationships aren't working in the way they were told they should.
/r/MGTOW05/08/18 01:55 PM
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Oh my god. I feel kind of dumb for not realizing this sooner.
/r/MGTOW04/08/18 02:59 AM
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When I first was red pilled, it was simply about the true nature of females. Now I'm getting a whole new red pill with how introducing marriage or women into one's life is a way of inviting the government into your home. Fuck that. I am a free man.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 08:23 PM
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Eating pussy causes throat cancer?
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 06:40 PM
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Men want the idea of a woman, not an actual woman. We were not meant to get along.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 03:38 AM
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This was me exactly. After I was red pilled I got in shape and fell for a girl. A year later I'm 40lbs overweight. I take full responsibility. I didn't swallow enough red pills. Were not together anymore.
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 03:36 AM
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Check your state's recording laws. If it's a one party consent state, record all your conversations in secret. Also document all interactions you have with her and the kids. The courts WILL try to screw you. If you have any info that shows how unreasonable she is, it may help.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 10:41 PM
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Just looking out for my fellow man. People giving away their stuff has been scientifically shown to occur before suicide attempts in depressed people.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 09:32 PM
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I'll be real: my morning routine takes me almost an hour. I hate it. Wake up. Piss. (5 mins) Make breakfast. (10 mins) Eat vitamins. Shower. Shave. Brush teeth. (15 mins) Iron dress shirt. (5 mins) Put on t-shirt. Gel hair. (5 mins) Put on dress shirt and sometimes suit. (5 mins) Every fucking day. Only time prep takes 10 minutes is when idgaf on the weekends. How do you guys get away with it?
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 07:58 PM
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Just watch out, giving things away can also be a precursor to thinking about suicide.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 06:51 PM
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Yes
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 05:47 PM
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More brainwashing and people aren't even aware.
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 02:31 AM
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Green code??
/r/MGTOW02/08/18 02:30 AM
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I just want to know, for what purpose? Why would the CIA willingly want to destroy the system by putting women in power while simultaneously going to all these lengths to control people via the use of technology?
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 08:49 PM
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Definitely straight and male. I've never been attracted to males. I connect better with men, but that's because they're men, not spoiled women.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 06:53 PM
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So the reason no women want to sleep with me is because they respect me? Now that's a fuckin riot. That is some serious hamstering right there.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 06:42 PM
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The term is AWALT: All Women Are LIKE This AWALT is not "All women ARE this". It means that hypergamy exists on a spectrum. Some are going to be more so than others. The reason this is useful is because men are raised under the "women is wonderful effect". (Google it) Ignorant men really think women are going to be perfect. Yes I agree the men picked the bad women in many cases. MGTOW and TRP is all about BOTH GENDERS taking personal responsibility. So when my ex of 11 years took me on vacation …
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 06:39 PM
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Just FYI typing someone's name like that sends them a "username mention" notification that alerts them to the existence of a thread. The guy is probably going to see this post.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 06:32 PM
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Chances are she'll get an std and then give it to you if you continued. The more men she fucks the less she can ever bond with you.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 05:51 PM
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Wish they had separated it by gender. Women can't be friends with men.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 05:20 PM
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I've never used a dating app so no idea wrt that. But my last relationship of a year, this pic captures it perfectly. Once you are aware of AWALT, you see it everywhere.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 05:19 PM
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Have you never had a girl cum on your dick, bro? It feels great when all her muscles contract around you and her body goes wild. And then you cum and in that brief moment where all thought goes silent, the first words that return to mind are "Oh God, what have I done?"
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 04:18 PM
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A mother's love for her child is the only true love women can know. It is also the only true love a man can receive. It kills me every day to know that I will never receive true love because I was born to an emotionally abusive mother. I am alone.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 03:55 PM
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I agree that it needs to be researched, but just to play devil's advocate: nothing is free in life, so why is so much porn freely available?
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 03:51 PM
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I want to be like you. Net worth is similar but it's mostly in retirement and real estate at the moment. What can you recommend when it comes to doing personal investing?
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 02:51 PM
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Too bad that boy has to grow up to some day have his heart broken by an evil woman. I hope he does not get destroyed by the devil of hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 12:11 PM
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How are racing wheels these days? I had one on PS2 years ago and it was kind of a joke.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 03:43 AM
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AWAL-... Oh. puts down pitchfork
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 03:37 AM
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I did all this for my ex and she still cheated on me. AWALT
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 07:51 PM
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Most beta men do everything to try to help their gf feel better. We men have always acknowledged that women have their own feelings and thoughts, and traditionally we have tried to take care of them to help them feel better. Women don't even recognize that men have their own beliefs and feelings.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 01:21 PM
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Me too. I'm like hot damn that's a nice windfall.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 12:49 PM
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You think the courts would actually side with men? LOL
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 12:48 PM
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Edit nvm I'm tired lol. FTM is easier to pass than MTF. Most guys who try to appear as girls still look like guys even with surgery. The average girl can just throw on a breast binder and cut her hair and boom she passes for male.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 11:37 AM
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And the stupid woman gets off scott free...
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 03:28 AM
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Totally. Challenge is MTF really aren't accepted in society very well if they don't pass. It's way way way easier for FTM to pass. Just another example of how men have to work harder at everything. Even at becoming the closest they can be to being a woman.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 03:24 AM
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My relationship of 11 years ended when we were on vacation and I caught her sleeping with another guy. She told me it's my fault for being unavailable and that she resents me because I'm so awful to her. I was "unavailable" because I had been working on my PhD for 6 years. It was so ludicrous that it woke me up. I said, how can this be happening? This makes zero sense. Every gift I bought, every night I stayed up more hours than I could afford just to give her some us time, every game we played,…
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 03:21 AM
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Check your T levels.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 03:11 AM
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Exactly. I think all the media bullshit about transgender people is a way of obscuring that women are the problem. Most trans people just want to be left alone. If trans voices were actually heard, the reality of the system would come crashing down hard. But instead we get all this bullshit about Jenner and omg who used the bathroom?!? All to distract that our trans brothers have faced the truth up front. Again, I know there are a lot of people here who might not support LGBT groups, but you've …
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 03:05 AM
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I work with transgender people in my line of practice, and it gives a really intriguing picture on how men are treated in society. The vast majority of my female to male clients have shared how difficult life becomes when one is taken as a man. They are often happy with the transition but surprised at how tough it is, that men not only have to prove themselves to women but to each other. One ftm trans guy I know said it eloquently: "When I was female, the world gave me attention anywhere I went.…
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 10:08 PM
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This is textbook physical abuse. If you have recordings or documentation of her admitting this, pursue legal action. Also please seek out a therapist who specializes in domestic violence. You have no idea how this has chipped at your self esteem.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 07:10 PM
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Women are psychopaths. My ex of 11 years, the most important person in the world to me outside of my family, took me on vacation where she fucked another guy and I caught her. She blamed it on me, saying she had resented me for years for not being available (I was completing my PhD, was in the 6th year at the time). She moved out the weekend we got home and ghosted me. She has made zero attempts to contact me. Eleven years of building a life with this woman and I haven't heard from her once. It'…
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 07:05 PM
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This is literally an early sign of serious and persistent mental illness, often schizophrenia. She needs an eval, stat.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 06:59 PM
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I have all except #5 (though I have a PhD, but you can't fuck a PhD) and I'm completely invisible to women. A blessing, but also a curse for my self esteem.
/r/MGTOW30/07/18 01:08 AM
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You vwould think! But no, they were the women in the relationship and their partners were the masculine ones.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 09:34 PM
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Because I'm in monk mode and reflecting on myself. I don't desire to have a woman a part of my life. However, I've noticed a pattern in what I'm attracted to, and it's unusual. I wonder does it mean I am attracted to the unobtainable? Does it mean my self esteem is so low that I pursue LGBT individuals despite being straight myself? I have no idea so I'm seeking help.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 08:40 PM
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You're making the assumption that women actually work instead of posting on social media all day at work.
/r/MGTOW27/07/18 12:08 PM
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E:D (lol) is a great game though I quit before Horizons. I played it in VR and my god the sense of being alone in space floating in my very own ship staring through a moonroof at a neutron star is the epitome of MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 04:01 PM
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This is incorrect. Bad therapy will not be a solution. Unfortunately, there are a lot of bad therapists. But if you get a good therapist, there's nothing better. The big challenge is that Psychology and social work are bastions of SJW thinking. But again, don't knock it until you've had a good experience. Source: am therapist.
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 02:00 PM
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Someone who doesn't hear MGTOW and calls us the KKK? That's a first.
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 12:20 PM
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Yes, but only if you take care of yourself. There are a lot of saggy overweight miserable men in their 60s. There are also many who look remarkably handsome. It's up to you to be the best man you can be.
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 01:41 AM
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Happy birthday and feel free to post your car!
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 01:34 AM
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Emergency contraception
/r/MGTOW25/07/18 01:47 PM
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I understand the percentages but I'd really appreciate an example diet of what it would take to have that balance. Conceptually, I get it. But when I try to actualize it, it's very difficult to find easy meals I can prepare every day to fit this.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 10:19 PM
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I'm going to weigh more when I start lifting again, but right now I just need to get rid of all this fat.
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 05:55 PM
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5'4
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 05:53 PM
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Juju ju Judy U
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 12:39 PM
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Yes and no. Look, I am glad you are aware of your values, but be forewarned that holding the value of waiting to have sex has a major price tag. Your social skills will suffer. While everyone at college will be hooking up and getting dates, you will feel left behind. If you think you'll be okay with that, then go ahead. Personally, I was just like you. I ended up meeting a girl when I was 21 and lost my virginity to her. I am not being dramatic when I say that I was a changed person after that. …
/r/MGTOW24/07/18 04:23 AM
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Nice job. I bought my house at 27 and thought that was young. Word of advice: just make sure you don't become housepoor. Maintenance and insurance and property tax build up fast. My AC unit went on a 105 degree day and the repair was almost $500. Always have at least 3 months earnings in an emergency account.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 01:41 PM
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Just how much of my post history did you read to know about my sleep paralysis?
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:23 AM
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Is there any actual evidence that MGTOW was created or funded by the FBI/CIA?
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:14 AM
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Did you mean to say will not fill in the void? And oh great! Now I can't drink water without thinking about how fish get more action than I ever will! Fml lmao
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:10 AM
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I don't think I can. No one gives me a second glance. I'm pretty much incel if I hadn't tricked 3 people into dating me.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:07 AM
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Yeah, I know it, it's just really hard to feel it today. I meditated for half an hour earlier today and was in the moment a lot, but now I'm just crashing. Maybe I'm just tired from the long day.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:06 AM
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Yeah I'm like what, did you go through my profile? Lmao I think my collecting is a bad habit tbh. I put too much money into it to cope when I'm feeling down about myself. I really should be saving or investing it. I'm on vacation this week and again I was doing great until today. I dunno. I need a bigger purpose or something. Completing my degree was my purpose and now that's over I'm just like, meh, wasn't worth it at all.
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:05 AM
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This sub is for men who don't want women in their life. If you want to learn how to date, check out r/TheRedPill. If you want to post this question, post it on r/asktrp
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:00 AM
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I don't care who has sex with who. I'm not going to be prejudiced against someone for their sexual orientation. That said, I agree that the LGBT movement has been used as a vehicle for corrupt societal change and it is pathetic and sickening of these manipulators to use the LGBT population like this.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 11:06 PM
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When the fuck did everyone start losing their minds with this cuck and polyamory shit? I recognize that this is more common in LGBT circles and I fully support LGBT rights. But this seems like someone has an agenda to destroy the modern family.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 10:27 PM
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Blue pilled men are stuck in the same fantasy. They believe there's going to be some blonde angel-like caretaker who will love them for who they are and heal their every wound while being ready for sex at any time.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 10:23 PM
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Just Google it. It's literally just keeping concentration on your breath while allowing thoughts to flow like leaves on a river. Instead of picking those leaves up by focusing on the thought, you let them float by. You notice, but you don't react, and you return to your breath.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 06:04 PM
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You speak before you think because you need to build impulse control and insight into the thoughts that do come up. Practice mindfulness meditation. You will learn to notice thoughts as they arise and not react to them. Then practice that in conversation.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 05:10 PM
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So tl;dr guy realizes girls don't love him, so he abandons all his morals and values to remake himself in the image of what women claim they want, all to earn a partner who is incapable of loyalty, who nags whines and drains, and had to do none of the work of self improvement to earn love. Fuck that. Go your own way.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 05:05 PM
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This is state specific in the USA. In my state in the Midwest, there is a law that says property owners own everything in the land down to the core of the earth. However, we do not own the airspace above a certain height.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 12:48 PM
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These women you know have always been this way. The only thing that changed is your willingness to perceive it. That's not their fault, it's yours. I mean that with all due respect. Just as a lion will hunt, a woman will do things women do. You cant be angry at a lion for acting in accordance to its nature. Thus being angry that women act like women does nothing except get you in a bad and angry mood. Go your own way. Focus on you, and keeping healthy boundaries with others. Love women for the r…
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 04:26 AM
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A warning. You may get a chance to date. If you do, don't. I was like you. I reformed myself. Despite being red pilled I got a gf. A year later I'm an anxious overweight mess again. I'm having to start from square one.
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 04:20 AM
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I am not a teacher but I have taught both undergraduate and graduate courses. My warning for you is that higher education in America is the de facto source of SJW brainwashing. During your orientation you will likely be subject to completing sexual assault awareness training, Alcohol EDU, and gender diversity classes. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with these in principle. People should not sexually assault others. It is bad for your health to binge drink. People have different genders and…
/r/MGTOW12/07/18 04:10 AM
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I actually do collect stamps and it's the most rewarding thing. It's a collection of eras gone by, relics from when men were actually men. Impossibly tiny paintings that are snapshots of moments and settings in the timeline of history. I have never met a woman who could appreciate the art of philately.
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 05:41 PM
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When She Earns More: As Roles Shift, Old Ideas on Who Pays the Bills Persist Gender dynamics have become much more egalitarian over the past half-century, but certain attitudes may endure when it comes to men, women and money. By Tara Siegel Bernard July 6, 2018 For most of the 12 years of Nick and Natalie Foy’s marriage, Ms. Foy has been the primary breadwinner. She started a career in banking right out of college. Mr. Foy took a more circuitous path, working as a youth pastor before deciding t…
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 05:20 PM
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This makes sense. You cannot achieve the external without first tending to the internal. Else people feel hollow inside. Eating chicken demonstrates that even though I often do like who I am, that is not constant. However I do not think they must be worked on exclusively of each other.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 10:35 PM
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Really glad to hear this. Science has shown that we inherit racist attitudes from our parents, and that the best way to reduce racist attitudes is to put someone in contact with someone of another race. It's great that MGTOW could be the vehicle for this. Meanwhile, the more we come into contact with women the more we understand their true nature. It's like Oneitis is the positive opposite equivalent of racism. Contact with the other person brings you closer to the truth.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 09:58 PM
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I absolutely agree with you that internalized gynocentrism is an issue for many men. Personally, however, I pursue this self improvement out of a need for existential purpose. I have been through a lot of therapy and self-reflection, and I know that I am at my best and my happiness when I'm impressing myself with expanding the limits of my capabilities. The brain is this wonderful thing capable of infinite perception and endless acquisition of knowledge, and I don't want that to go to waste. Muc…
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 09:07 PM
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Meanwhile I'm a PhD making 60k and can't find a better job because I'm a straight white male.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 07:45 PM
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"The blooming flower loses its petals too soon. Weeds grow where they are unwanted." This quote from Zen philosophy says that we often wish our circumstances weren't the case. We wish the flowers would stay eternally blooming, that weeds would stop appearing. But by wishing for the impossible, we become distressed. Wishing that women's nature was any different than it is will simply bring unhappiness. You can have a family. You can build that. But you will do so with the knowledge of AWALT.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 07:29 PM
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This is already a thing. Google the term "male gaze".
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 05:59 PM
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I feel bad for those women because the sickos who rule the mainstream media have brainwashed these women into hating white men. Women are responsible for their behavior, yes, but the real blame lies with the fucked up leaders of our society who have orchestrated mass race wars via the media.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 05:29 PM
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Of course! You reminding me of this made everything click. My mood and motivation is so much better after just acknowledging that tomorrow makes for 5 years. It feels like yesterday. The whole situation was fucked. Her girlfriend was a cop, and my oneitis stole one of her gf's guns and killed herself with it. Wouldn't wish that on anyone.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 04:05 PM
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Oh hell yes. THANK YOU. Tomorrow makes 5 years since my oneitis killed herself. I remembered this last week but must have repressed it. You fucking rock.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:14 PM
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Thanks, though the women thing isn't the tough part for me. I've been red pilled for two years, I know what chaos they can bring. It's more that I'm having difficulty building discipline, especially with eating. I don't know why I binge ate last night and why I can't relax.
/r/MGTOW10/07/18 01:10 PM
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Your understanding that the other guy was providing drama and dick... Have you been red pilled for a while? Or are you just speaking from life experience?
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 08:17 PM
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I figured a reddit meme would've been better received here. Oh well lol
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 08:14 PM
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TRP's fundamental theory says the opposite of this. It states that by bettering oneself to get women, you will repel women because you are needy and desperate. But by nature of bettering oneself and focusing on your needs, women will be more attracted to you. This does take some male hamstering to wrap your head around. But it makes sense because it teaches men that the way to be attracted is to put yourself first and divorce yourself from the outcome of your attempts to meet others.
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:53 PM
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Didn't Mandela die in prison?
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 06:23 PM
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I like to believe that men who take the red pill always knew somewhere in their heart the truth about women. I was red pilled in 2017. Yet I go back through the music I listened to and the novels I've been writing, and the themes of red pill thinking have been there all along. On a subconscious level, we all know the truth. It's a matter of whether society gives permission to accept that truth. Modern society says you are evil for thinking this way. Yet there are these safe spaces (LOL) where we…
/r/MGTOW03/07/18 12:38 PM
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OP, you are doing a lot of damage to men by making this thread. I have my PhD in Clinical Psychology. I am a practicing therapist. I balance a caseload of 80+ patients. Given these credentials, here is my take: Psychology as a field is blue pilled as fuck. Feminism and SJWism is the name of the game no matter which program you go to. It's horrendous. However, therapy absolutely is for men. First off, was your therapist even a Psychologist? No psych would ever tell you that you should be married.…
/r/MGTOW29/06/18 12:30 PM
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Bayer just bought out Monsanto. Birth control in water and glyphosate in wheat is killing men.
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 08:50 PM
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Because the System is rigged against men. The women with money will have more money when they cheat on the husband and the court sides with her. Because women change over time psychologically after marriage, childbirth, and menopause to the point of being unrecognizable to the honeymoon period. Because the modern 18 to 30 year old woman wants thrill seeking and sexual fun before her looks fade and she gets locked down with a boring 9 to 5 nice guy.
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 05:50 PM
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Bring on the college memories. Bring on the grad school memories. Bring on the wageslave memories. Bring on the retirement home memories.
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 05:48 PM
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Thanks man
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 01:13 AM
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Easier said than done, I'm afraid. Time will tell to see how this pans out. Again, I don't have much experience being the one to break up with someone, so I'm trying to stamp out the nice guy in me.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 10:25 PM
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I mean this with all due respect, but going TRP or MGTOW without a systematized, organized way of understanding why TRP and MGTOW work is just asking for trouble. Concepts like holding frame are well studied in social psychology. Group dynamics, systems theory, and power hierarchies are all well-researched parts of human behavior. These terms (which I would consider TRP terms, not PUA) are shorthand for ways of interacting with others and recognizing group dynamics. When I speak with a coworker …
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 10:23 PM
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Ah, I absolutely see your point. However, I must respectfully disagree with regard to the shit test. Here is how it would usually play out: I'd be running my hand on her, take a few kisses, do whatever to initiate sex like it would usually work. If she said no, I'd simply say OK and turn away from her and go to sleep. Most of the time, I would pass the shit test. She would start touching me, get closer to me, etc., and try to initiate sex. I wasn't upset, I simply listened to her "No" and did my…
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 10:18 PM
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We did use condoms. Any guy who doesn't is a fool. I don't trust condoms fully. I don't trust that some women wouldn't poke holes in them. At a certain point, I didn't want to just rely on condoms for birth control. Neither of us were in any state to be having a child.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 10:10 PM
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You're welcome. Remember that with MGTOW you have a lot of kids who are around 18 who still act like teens and think its hot shit to shit all over women, and then you have people in their 40s and older who take it for what it is: a philosophy on how heterosexual cisgender men should live their lives, under the presumption that cisgender women are biologically programmed to interact with cismen in a specific way. People who subscribe to MGTOW believe that men are better off without heterosexual r…
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 09:54 PM
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If you were assigned male at birth, you're going your own way by closing the gap between your physical expression and subjective experience of gender identity. GYOW is going to be different for each person, and for some people that means leaving one's male identity. Overall, MGTOW has little to do with gender identity and expression. It's simply a lifestyle choice on how to include others in one's life.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 09:27 PM
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The logic of TRP and MGTOW is that women act on emotions, not logic. When a guy "just gets it" it means he gave her the tingles. Women don't know more than what has been reinforced to give them tingles. I really don't believe this is a conscious process.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 09:14 PM
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AWALT though. The tenets are there because they are based in the theory that women are motivated to find the best genes possible.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 09:05 PM
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I work in the field of mental health. People, on average, are extremely ignorant of their own motivations for their behavior. Doubly so when it comes to sexual attraction and intergender dynamics.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 09:04 PM
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Thanks. I agree on the developmental part. It was good that I was the one to break up. I am really proud of myself that I handled it as well as I did. I'm just worried about her. I'm trying not to be, but it's tough.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 08:58 PM
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Thanks. That is the hope, that I will be happier alone. The hardest thing was spending almost all my weekend time with her. Before we dated, I'd wake up at 5:30, go to the gym, eat breakfast, handle any chores, then go and do something major like fishing, traveling, boating, etc. Dating her, she worked weekend afternoons so we would be sitting around until noon on the weekends and it's like my day wouldn't start until she left. I knew this wasn't right. Even though I want to reach out to her, I …
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 08:56 PM
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Really? It's very useful beyond romantic relationships. A lot of their advice (abundance mentality, amused mastery, outcome independence, frame) is excellent for all forms of social interaction.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 08:53 PM
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The fight isn't over. I want to text her. I want to check to see how she's doing. I am worried. But I know that all of this is just base animal feelings. I know I shouldn't do that. It wouldn't be good for either of us. This feeling is harder to deal with than the break up.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 08:37 PM
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Depends. If you get into a fully funded PhD program, it's doable. Many PhDs are not fully funded. I am also living in an area where the cost of living is very low. I would never be able to afford living on the coasts. My home would cost half a million there.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 08:32 PM
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I looked at it realistically: she has major debts, isn't improving with regard to career, doesn't have the emotional stability to be a good mother to my children. Dating her was fun, but neither of us were getting out of it what we did at first. I let myself go and got fat again. It was time to cut the cord and go back to self improvement. Licking my wounds right now, though.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 08:05 PM
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What do you mean she'll call me? We didn't end things on total no contact. We share the same group of friends who have been together for years. We will probably see each other again.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 08:04 PM
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This has never happened for me in a relationship.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 07:32 PM
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Wow, you're pretty cool yourself.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 07:31 PM
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It just reaffirmed for me that TRP and MGTOW is really onto something with regard to intersexual dynamics. I can't call it pathetic if it's an automatic response to being rejected. I just wish it wasn't this way. I wish we weren't so enslaved by our biology.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 07:18 PM
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I got very depressed during the relationship. I thought she was the cause, sucking me dry. But actually I'm feeling kind of depressed today :/
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 07:16 PM
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I do feel sad. I don't know how to handle this emotion. I'm trying to enjoy myself but not much is working.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 06:59 PM
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I feel like this works on guys who use beta tactics. When she would pull BS, I kept frame until the tantrum was over. I didn't try to negotiate it with her to explain it was wrong. So when she brought it up at the end, it was an affirmation to me that holding frame worked well.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 06:58 PM
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I didn't get this sense. I've had it happen to me before. What makes you think this? To be completely honest, I think I initiated it. I stopped having sex with her outright when she wouldn't get on any form of birth control. I knew this was someone I would never want to have a child with, so I stopped taking any risks. It was definitely a relationship first built on sex. When that was gone, everything else went with it.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 05:55 PM
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The protective part of me feels very bad for my ex. She will not survive in the system. It will chew her up and spit her out, and the part of me that still cares for her wishes it did not have to be this way. But recognizing AWALT, I know that if I become that protector, I will be the one chewed up and spit out. And, I recognize there are hundreds of betas who will be willing to take that role in her life. Evolutionarily, this makes total sense. The man gets a woman pregnant and needs to protect…
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 05:48 PM
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She actually didn't outwardly say she'll change. It was all implicit, which is where TRP and MGTOW helped. Outwardly she acknowledged numerous instances where she knew she fucked up. She said she had personal work to do, and I agreed. She stated she's in no mental or physical health for a relationship, and I agreed. Whether that was her being submissive and "caught for being a bad girl", or genuine, or a pull to get me to comfort her, I have no idea. But I took it at face value, stayed Real with…
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 05:39 PM
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I used dread early on in the relationship when she acted out. She'd get very angry and leave the house and then come crawling back. I am not familiar with the term no-bid. Could you please explain?
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 05:15 PM
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Interesting take. I like the perspective that we need to put our survival instinct before our reproductive instinct. It's like women have the ability to trick our systems into reversing these priorities. I do not blame women for being married to the state. I believe TPTB have set up the system such that this is women's role. There are people who could choose to change the laws, but don't. If you were benefitting from the state, you would take advantage of it too. Personally I see women married m…
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 05:13 PM
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I was cheated on after an 11 year relationship. I took the Red Pill and lost 40 lbs, redid my finances, bought a house, and finished my PhD. I thought I was ready for a relationship after all that. So I jumped back in for a year, and ended it yesterday. Now I'm back to my original weight and fell somewhat into blue pill thinking again. I did not want to lose to house to anyone. Definitely fell down a few stories, but I'm not as low as where I was a few years ago.
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 04:55 PM
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It wasn't passive aggression. It was keeping frame. PA is "I'm acting like a bitch because I don't like how you're acting so I hope you notice by my sly comments hey right have you noticed yet?" Keeping frame was simply, if she was having a bad night I'd say better we don't hang out tonight. If she made a nasty comment, I would focus on doing what I wanted to and she could join if she liked. If she turned away from sex, I'd make sure to show I could too. It all comes from a place of abundance me…
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 04:47 PM
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It has 12 downvotes and is likely some acne covered teenager white knighting on the internet. If anything, those downvotes will cause a kid like that more shame than to the poster he's calling an incel.
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 06:11 PM
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Yet.
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 03:51 PM
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How did your therapist teach you Radical Acceptance? I am a therapist and while I often teach those DBT skills to my clients, many resist that idea of accepting oneself.
/r/MGTOW22/06/18 08:40 PM
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I disagree with this statement under 4.3: "Accurately assessing relationship interest is crucial to ensuring a woman does not leave an investing mate for one who is unwilling to commit." We do not see this in human female behavior. Most women who cheat do so with people who are unable to commit. I am unclear on why the author of the article believes this is a part of monitoring interest, unless he is arguing that in those cases value and value trajectory are seen as so high that it overrides com…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/18 07:40 PM
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I listen to a lot of jazz. People tend not to like jazz for whatever reason. But for me, it is just good for the soul. A few nights ago I realized I've never met a woman who likes jazz. I know some jazz singers who are female, but that's different. I'm talking a girl who appreciates Corea, Davis, Ellington, Coltrane, or Monk. Listens to them for the sake of good music, not for creating one's own for income. There is a beauty in jazz, yet it seems like only men see it.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 05:34 PM
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Get this incel shit out of here. IDC how evil women are in relationships, no one deserves to be murdered.
/r/MGTOW21/06/18 02:23 PM
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Thanks man. Glad you found this helpful. The difficulty with my statement is that we will never have all the tools. You might be on top of your emotional control, but then get a terminal cancer diagnosis the next day. No one is prepared for that. You will not be prepared when your father dies. You will not be prepared when your mother dies. You will not be prepared for being Zeroed Out. (see Rollo's essay) Positive masculinity is recognizing that maleness, at its core, is equivalent to the myth …
/r/TheRedPill08/06/18 06:55 PM
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Thank you for your account! Your story embodies the Red Pill perspective that men can change who they are at their core with diligence and hard work. Talking about your emotions with women is risky business and most often should be avoided. Cluster B women only know how to use Drama to problem solve. Therefore, disclosing your feelings gives them more tools to use in their Drama Toolbox. I often see on TRP the adage that women lose respect for a man who talks about his feelings. I disagree. Ther…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/18 04:44 PM
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I'm a psychotherapist IRL. I see what you are going for, but the science of behavior change does not match what you are saying. Rollo's blog constantly says that getting men to talk about feelings is part of the feminine imperative and that this behavior needs to be shut down. This is true to an extent. Society is conditioning men to "feel for feeling's sake". It is teaching men to ignore critical analysis of their feelings. The result is "feminized" men who bitch and moan about how they feel an…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/18 02:55 PM
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If I'm at a party, I see girls giving guys IOIs all the time. I never get those unless I am the one to initiate. These aren't attractive guys either.
/r/MGTOW24/04/18 12:05 PM
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I'm not getting these interest calls, which is part of why I'm concerned. I tell people about my work and it doesn't go anywhere.
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 10:27 PM
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This is an excellent idea because it uses feminists' own logic against them.
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 04:22 PM
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Outside of lifting, I am average and I get no results. No girl has ever sent me nudes. I never get any IOIs. Yet I have my life together. I have my PhD and I make six figures. I own a house and I'm not even 30 yet. I am the perfect beta provider. But no girls show interest. Don't take the above advice in the OP expecting girls to start showing interest. You can't fix short and ugly, you can only mask it. Take the OP's advice to better yourself and so people don't have to deal with your smell. Ca…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/18 05:28 PM
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So what's my other option? Never busting inside her?
/r/askTRP12/03/18 09:52 PM
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Already was, and pulling out every time. Still don't trust it, and frankly I'd rather bust in her with a condom but I ain't going to risk that shit if she's not on BC.
/r/askTRP12/03/18 09:35 PM
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What would have been better responses to her shit tests? "Cool, me too" was literally agree and amplify. Most of the time I ignore them. I didn't act butt hurt, I just shrugged them off because I had no time for her dumb games.
/r/askTRP12/03/18 08:34 PM
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This logic is completely backwards to me. You are telling me to risk getting her pregnant when there is no future with her? No girl is worth 18 years of child support payments. I withdrew sex out of pure risk management. Makes no sense to keep fucking her when chances are she'd try to lock me down with a pregnancy.
/r/askTRP12/03/18 08:31 PM
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High school is very cliquey. Don't be afraid of failing at this stage. You will get a completely new chance when you go to college, which will be a time for becoming a newer and better person. Good job motivating yourself now to improve. Because almost nothing in HS matters apart from getting you into a good college, you can have abundance mentality with friends. If someone doesn't like you, their loss. If you are going to the gym and someone's looking for a spotter, be that person. Then chat wi…
/r/askTRP12/03/18 05:26 PM
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But what could it be that I did for her to lose attraction?
/r/askTRP12/03/18 04:40 PM
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Yes, I agree. It is filled with disrespect and no desire. I'm curious what it is that I did to foster this? Was it the withdrawal of sex? Could it simply be that another man came into her life? How do I avoid this outcome in the future?
/r/askTRP12/03/18 04:24 PM
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Does that explain her behavior? She knows I am going to leave? And lol no way. I'm not such a wet noodle that I'd set a boundary like NO SEX and then go back on that. Christ, I wish I was taller and in better shape. I'd really be something else.
/r/askTRP12/03/18 04:17 PM
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It is working. She is chipping away at you and getting under your skin. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be bothering with this post. Women will have orbiters. That is a fact of life. If she's actively bringing them up, then that is a sign she does not respect you. You are experiencing beta rage at this because you don't have the abundance to withdraw your attention from her when she is behaving poorly.
/r/askTRP12/03/18 04:15 PM
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We've got a trip planned for this weekend. Going to do my best just to have a good time like always. If she doesn't want in on the fun, her loss! After that, next.
/r/askTRP12/03/18 04:12 PM
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She keeps subtly mentioning guys she talks to at her workplace. Doesn't help that she's 1 of 2 women at the place, so of course she'll be talking to guys. But I wouldn't be surprised if she was cheating, even just emotionally.
/r/askTRP12/03/18 04:11 PM
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I keep asking myself the same thing. We had a good sex life going but using just condoms the risk was too high for my liking. I had other concerns about the relationship, so I figured withdrawing sex was the first step towards nexting or to see if she would get on BC as I had been asking. Passive aggression is a really good way of putting it. Where I keep going all Beta is that I keep thinking I did something wrong to cause her to feel all passive aggressive towards me. Again its probably just m…
/r/askTRP12/03/18 04:05 PM
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Wtf was the origin of this, I remember this it's hilarious. Copypasta? TIFU?
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 05:52 PM
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Sure. "That sucks, what happened?" if she says "You were too big" you agree and amplify. If she says "You assaulted me" you plead the 5th. Saying "Sorry" immediately communicates some wrongdoing. Even "sorry you feel that way" is beta. Why are you sorry for her choosing to feel the way she does?
/r/askTRP18/08/17 07:27 PM
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NO. DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING. SAYING SORRY IS ADMISSION OF GUILT.
/r/askTRP18/08/17 05:10 PM
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You're GLO. You more than anyone know that the Red Pill subreddit is a place to discuss sexual strategy of both genders. I am referring to implementing themes of sexual strategy only. I am not using the term Red Pill to mean general unknowable truths. Attacking me and a substantial portion of the TRP subreddit as "ADHD spergie" is an emotional reaction, not a logical one. Where is your stoicism? I fail to see any logical argument in your post when themes of unrequited love (oneitis), the one tha…
/r/TheRedPill16/08/17 04:55 AM
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Your mission is the endgame. If you choose to LTR, it will be with a woman who wants to be the First Mate to your Captain. You need to lift and lead and laugh. If she chooses to go along with you on that journey and proves herself worthy, great. If not, next.
/r/askTRP14/08/17 07:30 PM
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This is a noob question, but what does by the book really look like? I've read so much TRP I don't know how to simply hold a conversation with a woman I am gaming anymore. I'm always looking out for shit tests, kino opportunities, and one upping my own agree and amplifies. What else would make it by the book?
/r/TheRedPill10/08/17 02:16 AM
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Dancing is not Beta. The Beta would be standing off to the side of the dance floor, staring at his oneitis and waiting for the perfect opportunity to "get in there" to dance with her. Hint: for the beta, the perfect opportunity never comes. Nor does she.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/17 01:02 PM
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Dude you totally lost frame at the end there. You went all "covert contract" on her of "I treated you with respect and you turn around and do this to me? I deserve better!" Go back to the sidebar and reread NMMNG. Your post is otherwise on point.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/17 05:54 PM
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She's 14. Adolescents are at a stage of development looking for identity. Social Justice, Feminism, LGBT+ all provides a sense of identity. Women are social group creatures. She goes to an all girls school. Every girl there is in a popularity contest. This is the perfect storm. Your sister wants to find a group identity AND prove that she is popular. She is going to use Virtue Signaling quite heavily. This is a phase. She may end up identifying as gender neutral or become all SJW. Or she'll turn…
/r/askTRP27/07/17 08:04 PM
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Would just like to add some psychological science to this as well: The borderline person or person with borderline personality features has only one problem solving skill: drama. BPD is the thing to look out for, and the way to parse out whether this person has elements of it is to see whether they actively seek out their drama by engaging in the Drama Triangle (victim, rescuer, perpetrator). If she cuts, burns, or otherwise self harms then run the other way. This is statistically most likely wi…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/17 02:16 PM
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What would you recommend for fat loss? I began with stronglifts and it SHOWS, but I have this awful gut and man boobs that have just become worse as the muscle beneath the fat has developed. I'm a short dude so any fat seems to show. It's tough because part of me wants to get all my calories for lifting and continuing to build strength, but the other part doesn't want the calories so I can lose this obnoxious fat.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/17 01:03 PM
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Twelve years with my oneitis. I loved her. We went on vacation together where she had set up a meeting with another man. I cried so hard. I was betrayed. And she just stared at me with soulless eyes telling me that I'm the one in the wrong. That was how I found the Red Pill. Most painful experience of my life.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/17 12:54 PM
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The girls I've been with I'll either use the above strategy of avoidance or just agree and escalate into hilarity so that I can bring with it an attitude of amused mastery. This seems to make them further angry. "You never listen to me! You don't care! You treat me terribly!" I say back, "If I'm so terrible, you can leave." This pisses them off even further. The next time we argue, she'll bring up me saying this. It's just never ending. Is this just a BPD phenomenon or should I expect this with …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/17 07:06 PM
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Yeah, that makes sense. I'm curious as to where to draw that line. I wonder whether giving less priority to other women and focusing on gaming the one is technically tying my happiness in with the outcome. I don't dwell on it if it fails, but I do limit my abundance. I suppose it's different for each person.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 08:24 PM
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Women are not the prize. I am the prize. Remove the blue pill from your post. Thanks.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 08:10 PM
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I get what you are going for, but IMO arrogance has a more negative connotation than in your use case scenario. Thing I would add: An arrogant mindset will take you far. Arrogant actions may hinder you. No one is going to like or respect the narcissistic try hard who puts others down to raise himself up. No one likes someone who boasts. The alpha doesn't need to put others down or boast because he already knows he is the shit. If you go into a situation with the mindset you are better than other…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 08:07 PM
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I agree that they need to earn my approval and I lose that frame when I try to "game them harder than others". However, I never said that I think of these women as flawless. That is what I am struggling with in determining what oneitis is. Guys I know with oneitis idealize a girl into this perfect being that cannot exist. I'm not doing that. I just happen to see someone with a quality I like, so like anything in life I put in the work so I can have it. I am not blind to a person's issues just be…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 07:54 PM
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This is probably more appropriate for AskTRP but I'll post it here: I'm not sure if what I am experiencing is oneitis. The OP makes it sound like it's this absolute "she can do no wrong, she shits gold" unicorn feeling that leads to utter obsession. My experience is way more subtle than that. It seems like out of every hundred women I meet, I feel attraction towards one and find myself thinking about her more often than I usually would. These are women I would actually prefer to have in my compa…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 07:40 PM
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The thousands of MEN who are veterans of our military who cannot function because of their flashbacks, hypervigilance, and avoidance would disagree with you. Saying that PTSD is just a "voted in" label does as much harm as the hamstering woman who uses "PTSD" as an excuse for her actions.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/17 02:46 PM
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Baby face. I look like I'm 18 but I'm 28 and have a PhD. People don't believe me. Doesn't help I'm short either. Again I try to game it away but it ends up being a "you're so nice that's so cute" kind of thing.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/17 02:38 PM
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Question on the "nice" comment. Idk what it is about my face or body or personality but I repeatedly get hit with a "you're so nice" literally within one minute of approaching most women. My friend didn't believe me so I bet him I could get 5 girls to say this to me across the night and sure enough it happened without fail. I treat it as a shit test and agree and amplify. It keeps the conversation going, but it usually devolves into one of the other IODs listed above. I wonder if my chances are …
/r/TheRedPill30/06/17 12:55 PM
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It says a lot about Reddit that TwoX is set, by default, to show on my front page and cannot be removed.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/17 02:44 PM
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I appreciate your help, and I want to clarify my question a little more. I have come to accept women's hypergamy as an innate evolutionary mandate. That aspect does not burn as much as it first did. What I have not come to accept is HOW women go about their hypergamy. My ex went about hers by manipulating me into spending $1000+ on us going on this trip so she could meet another man. This was an incredibly disrespectful way of going about her hypergamy. If she broke up with me and was forthright…
/r/askTRP19/05/17 03:18 PM
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"He can't fuck them all." No. That's like saying NAWALT. Chad can fuck, and Chad will fuck.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 08:34 PM
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I struggle with the opposite of this. I rarely tell stories about myself and I don't seek validation. This makes it very hard for people to get to know me, because they know nothing about who I am. With women, this is a mixed blessing. On the one hand, it allows for their imagination to run wild. The less they know about me, the more they project their alpha fantasies. On the other hand, I have no skill in telling stories which makes it difficult to game or handle shit tests etc.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 01:33 PM
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What do you do if she calls you "nice" within the first 30 seconds of talking? I approached a girl at a clothing store and after laughing at my joke her first words were "You seem like a nice guy" and then went on to talk about her boyfriend. Is that a sign just to move on?
/r/TheRedPill11/04/17 01:14 PM
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When all this happened, I did not know about TRP's existence. This entire story is the reason I discovered TRP. Chill bro.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/17 01:34 AM
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I don't have inner game yet. That's my first goal, compared to all else. It's easily my biggest weak spot and will show through no matter who I try and pick up. What do you recommend would have been the appropriate way to have handled the situation when I was at the convention with her?
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 09:22 PM
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No, she made it very clear AT FIRST that her intention was romantic. She kept telling me about how we wouldnt actually go to the convention and would spend the entire time fucking. It was constant, repeated "I can't wait to see you and to do the things I'm going to do to you." And 12 years ago? Absolutely not. Just over a year ago she was talking about moving in with me after I graduate. Beta bucks, sure, but we have been together multiple times in the fairly recent past. Which is why this sudde…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 05:12 PM
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Why is this /s? I absolutely could have done all those things had I known about TRP. If I had TRP I think the emotional overinvestment would have been reduced and it's ultimate impact on me would have been much easier to handle.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 05:06 PM
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Interesting concept, and it makes sense. I am confused about which I am, though. I was very clearly her Plan A at one point, and Plan B at others when she was dating other people. Again, I was dating others too. I must've been backup boyfriend on this trip I guess.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 05:04 PM
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It's a matter of Frame Control. I lost my cool and entered her frame. By entering her frame, I immediately lost the argument. Women think by emotions first, logic second. Entering her frame legitimizes how she feels, so no matter the logic I used she will still feel as if she is right. The proper response when a woman is yelling at you is stoicism. Just don't respond. Like with a child, you wait until they calm down and their tantrum is over. You then go ahead doing what you want within your own…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 04:03 AM
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It's not that it would have fixed my problems, it's that it would have made it clear to her that I was alpha and didn't fall for her shit test of "I have feelings for some other guy". The guy turned out to be a total beta, so if I had taken the lead then I think the weekend might have gone very differently. And thank you for the encouragement. It's definitely a tough path, but it's the path I've chosen. I like to see my projects through the finish, I never leave things half done. That's why I st…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 03:28 AM
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She stated that she absolutely expected that I would settle down with her and that I made her wait too long such that resentment built up. She clearly had interest at one point. What she says doesn't matter though, it's her actions that show how she truly feels. Which is why I completely disagree that she did nothing wrong. You don't invite someone on a big trip, tell them it's to make your relationship with them grow closer, and then ignore them almost the entire trip. Imagine if this was a guy…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/17 02:34 AM
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It was partly for this reason that I did not fuck her. My therapist and I had talked about this very point. I had told my therapist how I had a bad feeling about the trip and that she was talking to this other guy. My therapist pointed out that this situation is EXACTLY what happened to my dad: he was being cucked, but then he got it in with my mom and accidentally got her pregnant. My therapist told me to be careful and not repeat my father's mistakes. I also did not fuck her because she was dr…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 11:58 PM
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That's why I said at the bottom, it's a daily journey not a single event of swallowing a pill. I discovered TRP after the story and I am working every day towards this and I have a ton of work to do.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 11:15 PM
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I disagree about him being a shit test. She was already branch swinging. She had been talking to him for months and not talking to me. Like that other poster said, I was her fallback plan.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 11:14 PM
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Fallback plan. This entire time I've been trying to puzzle what she got out of me being there at all. I guess that's it. That's really helpful, thanks. I am sufficiently angry at myself for all my blue pill ways. I have a tough time being angry at others. I tried to express that anger towards her and she told me she doesn't know what I'm talking about and that I'm the one at fault. If it was a man doing that to a woman, it'd be called gaslighting. And I know now that life would be hell with her.…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 10:31 PM
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This is the objective, logical kick in the ass I need. Straight and to the point. Every time I think about going back, I am going to read this because at the core of it I was disrespected.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:59 PM
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Thanks. I keep going between "Wow I am lucky to have a new start on life, I dodged a bullet" to "Ugh maybe I'm the one at fault here she's not actually a bad person." She really must not care if she hasn't fought for me at all. But that's also my fault for not giving her an alpha to care about. I should have realized all along: what she did to me is exactly what she did to every one of the men she dated. She was with one guy for a year, and then out of nowhere she stopped spending all time with …
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:57 PM
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I'm learning. I did leave. It also took 3 months to post, but I figured it was time. You can't expect 12 years of oneitis to disappear overnight. The only solution to oneitis is abundance mentality, and I haven't achieved that yet.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:52 PM
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Yep, not fucking her was mistake #1. Mistake #2 was entering her frame. If I had just let her have her tantrum like a child, if I had just stayed stoic, it would have blown over. At the time, I was thinking "Don't listen to her words, listen to her actions" but that didn't help. I haven't soft nexted her, I have hard nexted her. We haven't spoken. I really, really want to check how she's doing, because I do feel like a lot of this is my fault for acting like a complete beta. But I also know that…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:22 PM
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I was 100% sure he was more beta than me LOL. He was buying her gifts and shit the entire time. Problem is, I did that too. Man, I want to slap myself. I never thought that AMOG really is what a man with weak frame relies on. Neat idea. My entire reason for being there was for her. I wouldn't have gone otherwise, which is why I was so upset. Made it hard to pass her off, but now I see that that would've been the right move. Let her suck up some other man's resources.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:19 PM
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That's the thing -- does she really not care about me? Or am I responsible for her not caring, because I acted like a beta? I keep thinking that if I behaved better (initiated sex, kept frame, took her away from the guy and his group) she would have treated me better overall because I provided leadership and direction. If AWALT, then no woman actually cares about any man except their children.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:16 PM
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Thank you for the support. Yes, it's incredibly difficult to see how poorly you are behaving and feeling when you are in the middle of it. These months since then have been all about learning about myself and changing my behaviors. I do not feel bad or guilty for how I acted, I am merely learning from it so that I never do that again. My only negative feelings now are my oneitis. I really had a great relationship with her. When you know someone for 12 years, there are elements to a relationship …
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:14 PM
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I agree that you can't fuck paper, but I disagree that it doesn't increase SMV. It has already proven itself time and again to provide immediate status with women because of all the fantasies they end up having about how ambitious and motivated I must be in life. Plus it gives me a ton of stories to tell that just increase my value. I think the problem is, because I knew this chick for 12 years, she already had it in her mind that I was BB. Getting a PhD and increasing my SMV doesn't change her …
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:12 PM
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This is probably my oneitis talking: but was it really inexcusable? If I had taken the lead and set appropriate boundaries like an alpha should, I feel like she would not have acted out. I feel like I should take responsibility for what happened. Are you saying that it's her fault too?
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 09:08 PM
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Haha dude I completely agree! The title of this is how I hit rock bottom. This was me at my lowest and is the reason I discovered TRP. I figured it's so cringe worthy people would enjoy it and it could help others see how to climb out of the blue pill hole.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 08:28 PM
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If I fucked her, I bet none of this would have happened.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 07:08 PM
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Yep, it's very clear to me now that I was her beta buck. Never again, man. That's why this is my rock bottom. I cringe just thinking about it. But if this didn't happen, I wouldn't have discovered TRP.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 07:07 PM
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Wouldn't handing her off to the guy be a beta move though? That recommendation sounds incredibly passive aggressive.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 07:06 PM
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Had to ask myself the same question after discovering TRP lmao. Can't believe I behaved that way. I will never do that again. How would you recommend that I should have implemented dread game when she began turning away from me?
/r/TheRedPill09/04/17 07:05 PM
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The last panel is the best part though.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/17 03:57 AM
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I respect your viewpoint that men need to be responsible for their decisions. My hesitancy is that women manipulate weaker men, so I question whether the beta in this situation is actually choosing this. As much as I wish I could say this was limited to a fetish, I'd place my bets that the cuck is a beta bucks in the relationship outside the bedroom. Masculinity is being threatened in modern society. I believe we each share responsibility in keeping it alive, and part of that involves teaching v…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 07:27 PM
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Amen. Never in my life did I think this was where society would end up going. I do not want to raise a child if this is what they have to look forward to.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 07:18 PM
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Look at the source website. Authors are SJW sex positive people. They don't do satire.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 07:15 PM
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You have no idea what you are talking about. TRP taught me that my ex cheating was almost entirely my fault. I was an emotional tampon who deferred to her on every decision and tried solving every issue we had by opening my wallet. TRP helped me realize that if I owned my power and took the lead in the relationship, it would have been more balanced. I learned that I needed to work on myself if that relationship was going to succeed. This theory isn't the woman-hating oppressive devil people like…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 07:11 PM
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This was me 3 months ago, very similar situation. And I'm still gagging when I take the pill. It's a very hard journey at first, so I hope those of you who have been with TRP a while can think back to the start of the process. It is a struggle every day.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 05:41 PM
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That is your blue pill programming vying to engage cognitive dissonance. This is very, very real. Oh Joy Sex Toy is a well known "sex positive" SJW comic series. If you go on their website, you will see that every post pushes this agenda. Their description from the website: "Erika Moen and Matthew Nolan’s widely acclaimed Oh Joy Sex Toy (OJST) is a free weekly sex education webcomic that debuted April 2013 and updates every Tuesday. It covers everything sex related from, sexuality and the sex in…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 05:32 PM
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I work in higher ed and I see the same thing here. It's hilarious that these SJWs preach "inclusion" and "tolerance" but seemingly exclude the "intolerable" attitudes of conservative straight men. Internal consistency, much?
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 04:23 PM
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Nope, I've been a loyal son to him. When he had a stroke 4 years ago, it wasn't his wife who took care of him, it was me. When he went blind on Christmas, I was the one who got him to a specialist the day after. And when he will be undergoing brain surgery, I will be the one waiting for him. I am his only successful child. He has given me plenty, and I have done my best to repay that as any son should do to their father. Perhaps I am rationalizing, but my understanding of his mistrust comes from…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 01:22 PM
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Not sure if I mistyped -- they are his children, I am related to them through him, so they are my half siblings because they have my father's blood but not my mothers.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 03:06 AM
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Agreed. These principles help guide LTRs towards staying fresh and exciting. It was not understanding these principles that led my last LTR to cheat on me. Had I known about this stuff, I would have seen it coming from a mile away and could have prevented it by changing my behavior. TRP helps men by giving us a framework within which we can improve ourselves and lead in our relationships.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/17 04:55 PM
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I nearly typed in the post "It sounds like I'm looking for a man but it's a shame I'm not attracted to them in the slightest." I just really wonder why I even would need a counterpart. I'm good when I'm alone, and I'm great with my friends. Why bother pair bonding?
/r/TheRedPill05/04/17 04:52 PM
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That's part of what I'm trying to figure out and I'm not getting a straight answer from his lawyer. I'm being told that even with POA no one can change what is in the Will, yet the language in the Will clearly states that POA can change distribution of financial accounts. I clearly get that my dad wants to protect his children, but I can't help but wonder if there is a trap here or his ex-wife is manipulating him or something.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/17 03:27 PM
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...says the guy who is also posting on a forum that is apparently for pick up artist misanthropic 14 year olds.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/17 03:25 PM
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I have limited time and resources. If I am going to put my time, money, and effort into something, I want it to have some level of return. I have a biological imperative to meet women to procreate, but my logical imperative says that output needs to be worth input. I am talking LTR, not spinning plates. Sex is not worth much to me. The fastest way to riches is marriage. It's also the fastest way to bankruptcy. If I am going to LTR someone, I want it to be someone who provides similar resources t…
/r/TheRedPill05/04/17 03:22 PM
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It's joint POA, not sole POA. He said that means any actions must be signed off by both me and the ex-wife. He said that if I was POA, he is concerned I could change it so my half-siblings don't receive any of his inheritance and that I would take it all. His logic is that joint POA ensures that things will be as he wishes.
/r/TheRedPill05/04/17 03:04 PM
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How do I find a high quality woman? Why do I even need a woman in my life? I have my PhD. I own a house. I have a great salary. I am working on my body. I have a good group of friends. I love my hobbies. Every woman I flirt with ends up being so disappointing. They're boring, uninteresting, and uneducated. Its been incredibly frustrating trying to find one who matches my level at all. It's like, I have so much to offer how the hell are you going to add to my life at all? I'm meeting women with M…
/r/TheRedPill05/04/17 02:54 PM
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Terrible thread. First you say all male PSYCHOLOGISTS are blue pilled, then you correct yourself by saying all male THERAPISTS are blue pilled. The difference between working with a doctoral level Psychologist vs. a therapist who is a Social Worker is astounding. Social Work these days is almost all blue pill, about advocating for the oppressed and white males being the villains of The System, etc. You will find much less of this with actual Psychologists who focus on logic, cognitions, and help…
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 06:27 PM
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Abdada, since I started reading TRP I've always respected your posts. Idk what it is but you have a way of writing that is recognizable so in the middle of reading I go "I bet this is an abdada post" and sure enough it is. Part of why I didn't initiate with this poly chick is because she is in the same industry as me, which is incredibly small. I am a firm believer in not shitting where I eat, so poly or not when I found out her profession she was off limits as far as I was concerned.
/r/askTRP28/03/17 07:26 PM
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My understanding was that shit tests = make-or-break moments where you either assert your dominance or you prove that you are a follower. In both, it seemed as if my status was being challenged (A: girl was saying I'm not good enough as a friend to take along; B: guy was targeting me to assert his own dominance). I completely agree that I was a total bitch in Scenario B. That scenario was a mere snippet of the absolutely awful experience I had with that woman, which led me to hit rock bottom and…
/r/askTRP25/03/17 02:58 PM
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Red flag is more severe, it's like "stay the hell away" whereas yellow flag is "don't rule it out, but be cautious and look out for red flags"
/r/TheRedPill24/03/17 03:35 PM
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Not a shit test, that was her ASD kicking in as a last ditch effort. Seems to be the point that killed the attraction for her. She wanted you to dominate and lead. Learn and move on. There will be more! Good job being willing to reflect and asking for feedback.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/17 07:04 PM
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Yeah, this has been my primary learning from red pill since it happened. I take comfort in that she'll probably do the same shit with the next guy she's with. It's definitely tough for me because I have a lot of outer qualifications but no inner game yet. So I'm in this weird state where I make for a great beta provider based on my resources but don't yet have the outgoing confidence. Regardless, she is never yours and to try to make yourself be her only one is a fool's errand because her eyes w…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/17 08:27 PM
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If you read the entirety of my post, you would realize that all happened before I discovered red pill. My point of adding the anecdote is that regardless of whether people have moved on or not they will move on eventually no matter how much you focus on yourself. So the central tenet of the OP is incorrect because you cannot become her only person.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/17 08:24 PM
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I have to disagree with the OP. The tl;dr is that AWALT and "She's not yours, it's just your turn." Making yourself "her only option" is blue pill programming at its finest because you will NEVER be her only option no matter how good you are. Example: I was in an LTR with my oneitis until recently. In the last year, I earned my PhD, nabbed a $90k/year job, began lifting and lost 30 lbs. In January, she invited me to an event with her. When we got there, she ignored me and spent the entire time g…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/17 07:17 PM
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Agreed on most points except #2. If you become known as the person who gives things and does favors, then people do not feel motivated to return favors. It boils down to this: you are giving your resources away for free, so why would others work for your resources when they know they will get it without effort? This was one of the core themes of No More Mr. Nice Guy. You do not build "credit" by doing things for others. You are not owed anything in life. And with the sexual marketplace, it is Re…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 05:22 PM
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This makes so much sense. The story about my name is true, so it came off naturally. What would be a good example of answering the name question in a lighthearted rather than sincere way?
/r/askTRP17/02/17 11:40 AM
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Did you even read my post? This absolutely happened last Friday. My friends keep giving me shit over it. We went to other bars and I went a little lighter with interpreting everything as a shit test, but realized I struggled with getting an emotional rise out of women. Teasing women seemed easy, but trying to give rise to positive feelings was really difficult for me besides implementing kino. I ultimately walked away from the night without a single number, but the only person I should be compar…
/r/askTRP16/02/17 06:56 PM
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